WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:09.960 It was in August two thousand and eight that one 2 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:16.359 of the greatest mysteries on disappearing people happened in this 3 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:17.160 very spot. 4 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:23.719 I picked up on a person because I was getting 5 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:27.239 the missing person data and I a missing person. So 6 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:29.760 I do what we do in remote remote viewing is 7 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:31.039 called deep micro. 8 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:36.159 And kill these things. 9 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:37.679 What things? 10 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.719 Do you think his body is still in that area? 11 00:00:57.399 --> 00:00:59.799 I think I'm going to need to get a team together. 12 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:24.879 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. 13 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:28.879 This episode, I got a very exciting returning guest, somebody 14 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:31.879 I was actually lucky enough to meet in person and 15 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.560 is totally animated and just as crazy and as right 16 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:39.239 in person as they are on the podcast. But before 17 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:41.879 we get to Natalie, let me introduce the other people 18 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:42.920 I got joining us today. 19 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:45.280 Have we got my man the Headless Giant? What is 20 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:45.640 going on? 21 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:45.840 Sir? 22 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:47.719 How are you are you doing? 23 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:47.840 No? 24 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:52.120 Alchemy mondays today. They're still not giving me the half 25 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:54.519 inch tubing that I ordered three weeks ago, but we'll 26 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.560 have it next week. So Alchemy Monday's coming back next 27 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.519 week tomorrow. I've got seven seven seven, and we've got 28 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:05.719 a special guest coming back. I forget his name, Libor 29 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:11.199 told Joy p Y we are talking DMT and on 30 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:16.520 Thursdays we've got the mail bag, So get your occult, paranormal, 31 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:20.919 cryptid experiences and send them to Headless Giant Podcast at 32 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:24.240 gmail dot com. We'll get those up for you. And 33 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.680 also on Sunday we have the Trialogus with Ethan Indigo 34 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:31.159 and Ricardo. Last week's trialog was amazing, guys, go check 35 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:33.280 it out. So you can find me on Twitter, x, 36 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:39.080 Instagram and YouTube. So head this Giant podcast check it out. 37 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.000 Thank you, awesome, Thank you very much. And Bennett sir, 38 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.520 please people, we don't know what you want. Yes, of course. 39 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:51.599 I am the host of the Broadcasting Scenes podcast, which 40 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:59.000 you can find everywhere podcasts are heard YouTube, rumble, I 41 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:03.800 only do. My interview is unrumbled, but either way YouTube, 42 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:08.240 and then the best place to find the whole clearinghouse 43 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:11.680 is broadcasting seeds dot com. 44 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.439 Very nice, easy enough, awesome. 45 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.560 And finally to the guest Natalie, thank you very much 46 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.120 for coming on. Like I said, I got to meet 47 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.039 her at Charlie's Beyond Belief. She's an awesome woman, funny 48 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:25.719 as hell. Kem three very entertained. 49 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:28.560 Why I was there, just a great person to be around. 50 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.800 You know, it was very fun and it was great 51 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.960 to have you come back on again, and because I 52 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.199 know you were toling us about it while we were 53 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:37.719 there about this you know, investigation you were going on, 54 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:39.039 so we get to. 55 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:40.719 Hear a little bit about it. Now I understand. 56 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:42.919 It's also coming out like it's a this is a 57 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:44.919 film thing, like you have a teaser and everything for work. 58 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:45.240 Correct. 59 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.840 Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's it's a film. And for 60 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.680 anybody that doesn't know, I'm Natalie Smearman. I am with 61 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.639 Relic Films and we do documentaries about all different kinds 62 00:03:56.639 --> 00:04:02.280 of things from high strangeness to missing person to cryptids 63 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.639 and paranormals. So we were talking Nick and I were 64 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.680 talking about this great investigation that we're going to do 65 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.800 and that we're filming in Land between the Lakes and Kentucky. 66 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:17.319 And this area is one hundred and seventy thousand acres 67 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:23.959 of land, massive, massive area of land, and originally it 68 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:28.600 was rivers. They dammed up the rivers and flooded areas 69 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:33.000 of where people had lived and there are graveyards under 70 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.879 the water, which there are really not a lot of 71 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:39.120 people that even live around there, just on the outskirts 72 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:44.680 and all of that area you could go in and investigate, 73 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:50.800 and especially at night, it gets crazy, absolutely insane. And 74 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:54.000 I was so happy because Greg Ogeles, who's the producer 75 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.199 and director of Relic Films, I had come to him 76 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:59.800 with a ton of ideas like hey, let's do this experiment, 77 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:02.199 do this, let's do this, and he's like, yeah, let's 78 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:05.240 do it, let's do it. And there was one I'm going, 79 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:07.319 are you sure you want me to do this because 80 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:11.399 this could be pretty dangerous. He's like do it, do it. 81 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:15.120 He's like, let's do it, and I'm like boo yah. 82 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:20.319 I was so excited because, you know, working with him 83 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:23.399 and the Relic team, there's no boundaries. 84 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:24.399 You could just just. 85 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.720 Go for it and we'll find out what happens. Either 86 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.120 it works or it doesn't work. If it doesn't work, 87 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.600 we mark that off and we move on to the 88 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.319 next one. And I have to say, every one of 89 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:37.519 my experiments worked. 90 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.040 It was crazy crazy. 91 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:49.199 So we we rusted camped in the Colson family area. 92 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:53.399 It was a it was a campground and so there. 93 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:58.079 Were no no showers to be found anywhere. There was 94 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.600 a hole in a in with a little oile at seat, 95 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.600 and that was pretty much it in a building and 96 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:04.279 that was it. 97 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:05.240 That's all we had. 98 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.600 And so when I say rustic, it was just a 99 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:09.680 tent for a week. 100 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:11.120 And who we were. 101 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.800 Right after the seven days because you were out investigating. 102 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:16.959 We're in the woods, you. 103 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:23.079 Know, for baby wipes, right, Yeah, so we all got 104 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:24.199 to know each other pretty well. 105 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:26.439 And thank god it was cold, because. 106 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:28.720 Horrible. 107 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.959 Oh, we would have been just marinating in our own goo. 108 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:39.120 So it was like, oh, thank god, you know, I have. 109 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:39.839 To tell you something. 110 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:43.720 Yeah, remember what happened during our interview. 111 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.079 Yes, that was crazy. 112 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:47.759 The door just popped open again. 113 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:54.720 Yeah, it hasn't happened since there hasn't happened since they 114 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:55.319 talked to you. 115 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:57.240 I'm just saying. 116 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:02.720 I'm just saying for sure, all of a sudden, the 117 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.240 door and I fixed it too, that's the thing. And 118 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.000 it just clicked and popped open. 119 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:14.959 Wow, hell us, you're you're on mute, dude, Sorry about that. 120 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:18.600 Bet you've got a ghost that is a stalking Natalie's. 121 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:38.720 Thanks for doing absolutely Wild. 122 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:38.519 Is known for the dog man? So is that is that? 123 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:40.920 What's going on? Here? Are we seeing dog mans these 124 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:41.839 around these lakes? 125 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:47.040 And uh so there's dog Man, Bigfoot. We had a 126 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:49.680 portal open up, we had. 127 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:53.480 Orbs, fairy lights, and we had crawlers. 128 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:55.720 What we realized later. 129 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:02.000 After doing some investigating, after we saw these crawlers, we 130 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.399 just after looking at everything, We're like, these have to 131 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:06.199 be rakes. 132 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:08.399 They have to be ranks. That's the only thing that 133 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:08.879 they can be. 134 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:12.399 Like the Anaheim calers. Just the two legs. 135 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.800 No, not the two legs, not the Anaheim was. These 136 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:20.560 are all four legs and they're just it was crazy. Now, 137 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:25.279 we did a series of experiments in this area, and 138 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:29.120 we tried to stay in one area so we could 139 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:33.320 concentrate on these experiments of how to go in, set 140 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.320 a baseline, what worked, what didn't work, and then so 141 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.720 we're not like traveling all over. We wanted just a 142 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:47.240 concentrated area and we did it within our campground because 143 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:49.600 Greg was like, I want Bigfoot to come in here, 144 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:51.080 I want Kryptis to come in here. 145 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.159 And I said, all right, I. 146 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:53.919 Got an idea. 147 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:58.279 You know, you hear about these male and female pheromones, 148 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:04.399 still get some. I went to the mall got Obsession 149 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:06.879 for men, and went to Victoria's Secret and got the 150 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.120 tea spray that has pheromones in it, and I went 151 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:14.240 and got some cheap that musk that jo Van musky. 152 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.919 So I went around to a few areas up around 153 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:24.759 because there were some hills, and we started spraying some 154 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:30.000 brightly colored dog toys that we hung on trees, so 155 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.240 made them really bright. They could smell it, they could 156 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.480 see it. There were some cool textures to it, and 157 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:41.399 we saturated them in all three colognes. So now it's 158 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:48.600 just permeating the area. And within twenty four hours we 159 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.320 had massive footsteps walking right past my tent. We had 160 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:58.159 a big bin of water that we tried to use 161 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.320 for bathing, and in the middle of the night, one 162 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:05.480 of them decided to play in the water. Splash, splash, splash, 163 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:08.080 I mean, just going to town having the best time. 164 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:15.240 We heard whoops, whistles, knocks, rocks being thrown in the water, 165 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:21.960 rocks clanking together, walking through the brush. And then which 166 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:25.840 this is another really cool thing that we documented, is 167 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:29.240 that all of the tents that were there, none of 168 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:32.519 the tents got messed with, none of us got messed with. 169 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:38.519 Anybody in a camper they got messed with, really, so 170 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:41.679 they would walk past these campers, the campers and go 171 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:47.960 and push them like do a check, and all of 172 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:51.559 them got it, not one, all of them. And it 173 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:54.799 was so cool because I'm like, they're not messing with 174 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:58.039 me in a little tent, They're messing with you. And 175 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.559 then one night they thought that there was a plastic 176 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:06.360 or like a big cooler and it had some textures 177 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:10.639 to it, and one of them starts scratching, like feeling 178 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:16.840 the texture of the cooler. And I was thinking to myself, 179 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.639 you know, just for a split second, I'm like, you know, 180 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:21.679 kids do that. 181 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:23.600 It's splashing water. 182 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:28.720 Kids, you know, play with textures and do things and 183 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:35.240 throw rocks and whatever. And our last night there we 184 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.879 were investigating and I walked over to the waterline and 185 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:45.039 there were footprints in the sand dirt area that were 186 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.080 a little bit bigger than my foot. Now I'm size six, 187 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.039 so I have a very small foot. And I'm like, 188 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.440 it is thirty some degrees. 189 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:55.960 There is no. 190 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:00.320 Hippie child out here or hippie petite woman out here that. 191 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:07.600 Roaming alone. There's not walking barefoot. 192 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:11.759 And I'm like, okay, there was a juvenile having a 193 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:16.519 good time, just playing, just being what a kid does 194 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:21.000 is play and investigate. We did have a couple of 195 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:25.840 nights where when we were out investigating, somebody stayed behind 196 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:31.679 to run security on our campsite, and every time the 197 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:37.759 adults came in, these squatches came in very aggressively, and 198 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:42.440 Martin Groves was on was working security one night and 199 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:45.679 he had to pull his gun and was yelling and 200 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.519 screaming to get them out of the camp because they 201 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:51.919 were like, you know, growling and snarling and then trying 202 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:55.919 to get our food, and Martin chased them off. The 203 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.679 next night, Jim Powell was working security and the same 204 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:02.799 thing happened. He had to growl and chase them off 205 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.080 and get really aggressive. This time they weren't backing down. 206 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.080 Natalie, I got to put something out real quick. We've 207 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:15.080 been talking about how these sort of DMT type creatures 208 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.279 will match the energy of the person going into the experience. 209 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:21.120 When you guys are there and you're investigating, you've got 210 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:25.159 this childlike curiosity. They're coming in and acting like children 211 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:29.720 with the securities they're protecting the place. They're matching that energy. 212 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:34.600 I'm so happy you pointed that out because we did 213 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:40.120 an experiment on the first night where we had we 214 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:46.679 had us as relic, we had seekers the Seekers group 215 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:51.519 ASOG and big men, big men with guns and military 216 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:55.919 as everything. We had the NCI team there too, and 217 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.840 they all had weapons. We decided to go into this 218 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:07.200 one hot spot area. There was myself, Martin Groves, Adam Davis, 219 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:10.799 Greg Ogles, and Melissa Adair. We went in first in 220 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:14.720 one vehicle. The second vehicle was security. They were coming 221 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:18.879 in ten minutes behind us. They were going to come 222 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:23.559 in with long guns, military outfits because where we were 223 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:29.720 going was a hot spot where there were aggressive attacks 224 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:32.919 on other people. And we're like, okay, here we are 225 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:38.320 sitting ducks, what's going to happen? So we had them 226 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:43.000 stay behind. We pulled around to the one road in. 227 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:47.039 We sat there for a few minutes, just kind of 228 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.080 like taking in the energy, and there was a lot 229 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:52.000 of energy. And I rolled down the window and I 230 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:55.080 looked at Martin. I'm like, are you getting are you 231 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:58.559 feeling that? I'm like, I'm feeling energy, like right here, 232 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:02.840 he goes, They're right there, he goes, I can feel 233 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:07.840 a dog man and a squatch right over in this area. 234 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.679 And we're kind of just sitting there, just being as 235 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.080 still and quiet in the vehicle, and then all of 236 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:20.799 a sudden, I see a massive bipedal creature stand up 237 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:28.639 with ears on top of its head walk into the forest. 238 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:29.279 And I'm going. 239 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:32.960 I looked at Martin. I said, did did you just 240 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:33.360 see that? 241 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:38.720 Yeah, because I'm thinking in myself, I'm seeing things. 242 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.159 There's no way that could have happened. 243 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:43.919 And i was really beside myself and I'm like, did 244 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:45.679 you see He's like, yeah, I just saw that. 245 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.919 I'm like, okay, let's go in. We're ready. They know 246 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:49.440 we're here. 247 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:53.559 So we drive down this tiny little dirt road, like 248 00:15:53.679 --> 00:16:00.440 a dirt road where nightmares and horror films are made, okay, and. 249 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.240 We crossed this bridge, this tiny little bridge. 250 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:07.159 Now I have a Santa Cruz, a Hondai Santa Cruz truck, 251 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.600 little tiny thing. We go across this bridge. Both all 252 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:14.200 this foliage has grown way over. It's touching the side 253 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:17.720 of my vehicle. But before we hit the bridge, my 254 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:21.039 lights caught a face on the side of the bridge 255 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:25.200 in the foliage and it ducked down, and I'm going. 256 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:27.440 I looked at him. I said, did you see that? 257 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:31.480 He goes, Yep, he goes, that's a century. That's a century. 258 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:32.720 They know we're here. 259 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:36.080 They're running back. They're telling the others we're here. I'm like, 260 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.159 oh yeah. 261 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:42.600 So we get to the graveyard and we turn around, 262 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:46.000 and what we did was made sure that if anything 263 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.639 went down and went bad, our windows were down. 264 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.279 These were in the vehicle. Get just jump in and go. 265 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:56.360 So we get to the area, we start making our 266 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.320 way up the hill and we're getting movement around us 267 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.519 and this energy of anxiety and stress and we're like, 268 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.640 what is happening? And Martin goes up a little bit 269 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:11.480 further to this one little area of when and. 270 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:13.279 Where he can see down the hill. 271 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.240 He goes, we have a crawler. We have a crawler 272 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:20.480 moving through the field. We have a crawler. And we're like, okay, 273 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:25.119 all right, we're good. Let's just stick together because I mean, 274 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:28.039 you can just feel the stress and anxiety coming from 275 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:30.839 the forest like coming in and you can hear movement, 276 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:35.319 but you can't see anything on the firm So we're 277 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:39.400 inching our way up. We're making some house, making some calls. 278 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:43.519 They're you know, they're kind of leery, look you know, 279 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:46.599 you know that they're there. And then all of a sudden, 280 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:52.119 our security team comes in. Adam goes, get up here. 281 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:54.079 Move up, Move up. 282 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:58.839 They come running in with long guns and military outfits 283 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:00.160 and every. 284 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:07.440 Thing stops the movement. Nothing is happening. Now, we still 285 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.160 feel the energy. 286 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:13.319 So Martin tells us something crazy because just myself and 287 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:15.640 Melissa are the only two females in the group at 288 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:19.119 this time. He goes, walk up the hill in a 289 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.119 graveyard in the dark with no flashlights, and we've got 290 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.160 nearly a full moon, walk up the hill and start 291 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:31.400 humming or singing. We're looking at him like you want 292 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:36.599 me and her to walk up the hill alone, and okay, 293 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.079 so we do. We walk up the hill and you 294 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:45.160 could just feel like the anxiety and like, what is this? 295 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:45.920 What is this. 296 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:49.960 Coming at us? Well? Me being me? 297 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:53.559 The only nice pretty song that I know is you 298 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:58.640 are My Sunshine. I start singing you are My Sunshine, 299 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.799 and the anxiety, stress, and the energy of the forest 300 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:08.000 just went. And I'm going, what just happened? Like there's 301 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.319 nothing coming from the forest. It's so calm, it's so 302 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:18.319 just peaceful, and we just kept going and not like nothing. 303 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.160 It was just like, oh, okay, they're okay, they're okay. 304 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:27.039 Martin goes, they've never seen a female out here, and 305 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:31.319 you're the first female investigators we have brought here. They 306 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:34.079 have never seen anything, and you're coming up and singing. 307 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.279 It's like a maternal kind of energy and calm them 308 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:44.279 right down. So we turn around and Craig is sitting 309 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:48.720 down on a tree stop and I'm like, Greg, are 310 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:54.720 you okay? He's like mm hmmm yeah, Like so nothing 311 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:59.960 else is happening. Greg's sitting there very quiet. We get 312 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:04.880 I mean literally, nothing is going on. Nothing else, darm nothing. 313 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:10.119 We started singing and went dead. So we decided let's 314 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:11.039 get back in the truck. 315 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:11.880 We'll go back to. 316 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:17.359 Base camp regroup. Turns out Greg got sick. Whatever that 317 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:23.720 was their targeted Greg. He got dizzy, lightheaded, migrain nausea, and. 318 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:24.839 He didn't tell anybody. 319 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:28.480 We get back to base camp, he has to lie 320 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:33.839 down and just like for an hour and a half 321 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.839 he is decompressing and finally emerges and going okay, I 322 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:42.200 feel better. I'm like, I said, okay, Greg, I said, 323 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:45.359 here's my theory on this. We're not going to get 324 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.319 any activity with a bunch of big men with giant 325 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:54.200 guns running into the forest. I'm like, I know that, 326 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:56.880 you know, I get the fact that they want to 327 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:01.000 be you know, protect us, but it's really not. 328 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:02.200 It's not working. 329 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:05.880 We want to make contact, that's why we're here. So 330 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:09.680 we go to a different graveyard, different site. We're kind 331 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:14.000 of scoping everything out the next day and this is 332 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:18.480 when the NCI guys came and Tim Dills was standing 333 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:21.799 there and he was investigating because he's not a paranormal 334 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:26.880 investigator at all, he's a cryptid investigator. And we're all 335 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:29.440 kind of standing there and not a whole lot's happening, 336 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:33.319 but we do see a black blob move through the 337 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.000 forest and we're trying to talk to it. We're trying 338 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:41.359 to see it's firm, anything, nothing, And so we're like, okay, 339 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:43.400 we're gonna go down here. And we're kind of spread 340 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.799 out just a little bit on this road and Tim goes, 341 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.359 what in the heck? And we're like, what's going on now? 342 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.599 Tim is like six two sixty three, he's a big guy. 343 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:57.119 He goes, somebody just yanked on the back of my 344 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:02.880 shirt my hoodie twice, like grabbed his hood and yank twice. 345 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:05.839 And we're like, well, we're in a graveyard, you know 346 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:09.000 there're gonna be paranormal activity. We just saw a black 347 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:13.559 blob move through. So okay, but we're still in an 348 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:17.200 area with big guys in there. We're a very large 349 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:22.279 group of people, so again we regroup. That didn't work, 350 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:28.440 so I said, we had a few more ladies arrive. 351 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:31.079 I said, here's our chance. 352 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:35.039 We go in there to our original place where we 353 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:39.359 saw that figure and that face on the bridge. 354 00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:40.680 We go in there. 355 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:47.759 We go in vulnerable, have a female team investigating, two 356 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:52.839 cameraman cameraman. Nobody is armed except for Greg and Jim 357 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:57.160 with little pistols tucked away, and I have bear spray. 358 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:02.799 And I said, no security, no not that. Greg's like 359 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:06.200 absolutely not, no security, no nothing. We're going in vulnerable. 360 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:08.720 So we regroup right before we go. 361 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.319 In, and he goes, we need to go in and 362 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.759 we need to get them to come out, and the 363 00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:14.319 only way. 364 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:16.640 We're gonna do it is pick a fight. Let's go 365 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:21.720 in and pick a fight with them. Now, earlier that week, I. 366 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:25.240 Had to I walked to the to the little toilet thing, 367 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.559 which was a ways away, and it was at night, 368 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.960 and I got growled at from the forest, and at 369 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:34.680 that point in. 370 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.599 Time, I'm like, all right, okay. 371 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.599 I've got to go to the bathroom. We already know 372 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:42.559 you're here, you've been here. But it was a growl, 373 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:46.720 like not aggressive, but it was like we're here, and 374 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:48.000 you stay there. 375 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:52.039 I'm sorry, I've got to grab my tortoise. My tortoise 376 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.039 is making all kinds of u uh. 377 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:56.200 Is that what that noise was walking off the floor. 378 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:02.559 Yeah, he's in his terrarium. He wanted out, so. 379 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.880 He So We're like, okay, we're gonna go in and 380 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:10.359 pick a fight. I heard this growl, and I'm like, 381 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:11.799 I'm gonna mimic that growl. 382 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:13.319 I'm gonna do. 383 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:17.160 It three times, and let's just see what happens, and 384 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:19.480 then we'll do somehows and we'll do this, and we'll 385 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:19.920 do that. 386 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:23.079 We have two women with therms. 387 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:27.079 The rest of us are just using our eyesight and 388 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:30.640 our own feelings, and we're like, let's see what happens. 389 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:36.200 So then we go in. We start moving up the hill. 390 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.160 We get halfway up the hill and I looked at Greg. 391 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:42.359 I said, okay, let's let let's let's go. Let's we're ready. 392 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:48.200 I let out three of those growls, and out of nowhere, 393 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.000 all hell broke broke loose from the top of the ridge. 394 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:58.000 You hear, oh, boom, and now the ground is shaking like. 395 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:03.119 An earthquake under us. I'm like, my got it. They're here, 396 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.960 they're angry. I'm gonna do it again. I do it again. 397 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:10.640 Now we got a movement from all sides coming in 398 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:15.480 where you hear boom, boom, and the ground is shaking, 399 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:19.759 and I'm going, Okay, now we're getting it. We're getting it. 400 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:24.440 So we're looking around with therms, we're hearing movement. You're 401 00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:27.480