Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of February
Speaker 2: twenty fourth, we're continuing with A Man on the Inside.
Speaker 2: Season one, Episode five was called Presence and Clear Danger,
Speaker 2: one of the lesser puns we've gotten. And also no
Speaker 2: Emily again.
Speaker 1: No, no Emily, and really I mean there was a
Speaker 1: little danger at the beginning because they realized that somebody's
Speaker 1: onto them.
Speaker 2: Right they.
Speaker 1: Julie gives Charles an ostentatious watch, figuring that somebody's going
Speaker 1: to try to steal it, and instead somebody leaves Elliott's
Speaker 1: watch in his room, and so they kind of dispatch
Speaker 1: that threat, and then they're just sort of waiting for
Speaker 1: something to happen, as are we all, and it just
Speaker 1: kind of wanders on into a saddish sort of episode
Speaker 1: about old people and the way we treat our seniors
Speaker 1: and why don't we get that massage chair when we
Speaker 1: can really enjoy it, and you know, somebody with the
Speaker 1: you know, going into the memory unit, and it just
Speaker 1: just we sort of lost track of the case. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just kind of stopped being a detective and started
Speaker 1: being a guy who is now recalling his wife's dissent
Speaker 1: in this woman he's just briefly made friends with. And
Speaker 1: what was that exactly? Not through what show is that
Speaker 1: we are watched? Yeah, yeah, because it was a detective
Speaker 1: show for five minutes, and then it was a melancholy
Speaker 1: look at aging, except Elliott has cancer.
Speaker 2: And Elliott's getting married again though, yes.
Speaker 1: That's right, he in Victoria, Virginia, Virginia. He and Virginia
Speaker 1: are getting married again, and.
Speaker 2: Awe, but I was not convinced as to I mean,
Speaker 2: I understand why he was pursuing her. Again, I mean
Speaker 2: he was pursuing her even before he got his diagnose.
Speaker 2: You know, he saw his doctor.
Speaker 1: She intuited that his cancer was bad, so I guess
Speaker 1: that was the reason.
Speaker 2: Why she said, yes.
Speaker 1: She may legitimately care for him, and also, you know,
Speaker 1: she'll be fun. I don't know what his prognosis is,
Speaker 1: but it's not like she's tying herself down forever. But
Speaker 1: I felt that it was because she because she asked
Speaker 1: him immediately when she saw his demeanor, herd kind of
Speaker 1: changed immediately. So again it was all about this is
Speaker 1: what the end of life is like. This is what
Speaker 1: it's like for all these old people here. And isn't
Speaker 1: that kind of melancholy and okay? Fun half hour there?
Speaker 1: You go, right, that's great. What what were we doing
Speaker 1: here again?
Speaker 2: Let me think, oh, yeah, we're solving a crime.
Speaker 1: There wasn't even like a little teaser at the end
Speaker 1: that kind of brought us back to it. It just wandered,
Speaker 1: as old people are like this off in a completely
Speaker 1: different direction, which makes me think, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: What is this show about? Is this a detective show?
Speaker 1: By way of talking about deep, deep thoughts about aging
Speaker 1: or is it actually a detective show that happens to
Speaker 1: have that setting.
Speaker 2: And perhaps somebody doesn't know and has not yet figured
Speaker 2: that out.
Speaker 1: I have that feeling, so that's a problem.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Could you kind of work that out before you start
Speaker 1: the series.
Speaker 2: Without Yeah, maybe eight episodes were more than you needed, because.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm really kind of okay either way.
Speaker 1: The detective stuff was fun and funny and that was cool,
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, I like my group of
Speaker 1: friends type shows, and if they want to do one
Speaker 1: with all old people, I think that could be fun.
Speaker 1: And if it's wistful and melancholy, sometimes that's okay. But
Speaker 1: I don't think that you can just sort of, on
Speaker 1: a week by week basis decide to be one or
Speaker 1: the other, especially if you say clear danger in the
Speaker 1: times and then you can just completely forget that unless
Speaker 1: the danger is life. Life is the danger it will
Speaker 1: get you, and I don't want that to be what
Speaker 1: it was. That seems a little much, you guys, come on, possibly,
Speaker 1: especially for those of us sort of roughly in the
Speaker 1: age group of your well mind wife yet but hadn't
Speaker 1: there I've had a week or two makes me think
Speaker 1: I could fit in very well with those people. I
Speaker 1: you know, would like to have a young person come
Speaker 1: with a cup of water in my pills would be
Speaker 1: very helpful. And uh, you know and mix you of
Speaker 1: Manhattan exactly. Yes, I probably can't have a Manhattan with
Speaker 1: all that medicage for myself. How did they work that out?
Speaker 1: How did they How can any of those people have
Speaker 1: as good?
Speaker 2: Question?
Speaker 1: If they've got there, They've got their blood pressure medication,
Speaker 1: they got their statin medication, They're probably on some heart thing,
Speaker 1: they're probably on something, some kidney stuff. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that big water for you all. Maybe some
Speaker 1: herb tea, but no caffeine. Oh well, it just was
Speaker 1: was weird. Did you feel that way too?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know they had this scene of Charles
Speaker 2: and bossy Susan, the president of the association, you know,
Speaker 2: making demands about security and and Charles was obviously just
Speaker 2: kind of sitting back and like, I'm I'm not really here, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just I'm just along for the ride because.
Speaker 1: I got well, he didn't have to do anything because
Speaker 1: she was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was doing all the time, for sure. But
Speaker 2: you know, then you had the you know, the guy
Speaker 2: from corporate come in and just be like, oh things
Speaker 2: are things are okay.
Speaker 1: But I mean he was saying like they don't have
Speaker 1: money for that's this sort of thing. Right, It's a
Speaker 1: pretty nice looking place. I'm guessing those these people are
Speaker 1: dropping some bucks to be there. Oh yeah, how can
Speaker 1: they not have money for security? It's not like this
Speaker 1: is like the welfare hotel down right, you know in downtown.
Speaker 1: This looks like it would be a place where people
Speaker 1: who have money would pay money to be right.
Speaker 2: Well, and also it wouldn't cost money to like not
Speaker 2: allow any old person to access people's rooms, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean I get they need they need it for
Speaker 2: emergency purposes, but people are just really really going in
Speaker 2: and out.
Speaker 1: Of the room, yeah, for reasons.
Speaker 2: Unless you know, Deity's the one behind it all. You know,
Speaker 2: she's the thief because you know, she is the only
Speaker 2: one who really technically should have access to everything.
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, yeah, except we don't want to suspect her
Speaker 1: of anything. It's just the case is just sort of
Speaker 1: wandering off into her relevancy. Yes, and nobody. You know,
Speaker 1: there was such urgency that they've got to they've got
Speaker 1: to find this. They've got to do this right away.
Speaker 1: And I think we're on day twenty two now and
Speaker 1: not particularly close to me closer, and yet nobody's we
Speaker 1: haven't we've we've just seen the lady who had her
Speaker 1: jewelry stolen wants. She hasn't been in every episode going
Speaker 1: where are my jewels? I'm gonna bring you all down?
Speaker 1: Her son, and we.
Speaker 2: Haven't seen Yeah, Mark Kevin Jackson hasn't been.
Speaker 1: Back saying that would be fine, It would be fine.
Speaker 2: What am I paying you for?
Speaker 1: Because I like seeing him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So it seems like we have a lot of time
Speaker 1: on our hands, right and focus. Focus.
Speaker 2: This is our parenting tip for them. Yeah, it's our
Speaker 2: parenting tip for the show, Like, you need to focus,
Speaker 2: You need to figure out what you're trying to say
Speaker 2: and say it.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Let's let's get get to work here.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Hm, But boy do I miss having the little Emily
Speaker 1: parenting moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If they've got if they've got time for Virginia and
Speaker 1: Flow to go to the supermarket, which we've never seen
Speaker 1: before and just walk around and look at stuff they
Speaker 1: had time for Emily, absolutely come on. And even if
Speaker 1: that actress is not available. A couple of her sons
Speaker 1: could just get on the phone and that would be.
Speaker 2: Imagine. They wouldn't even know how to talk on the phone.
Speaker 2: They would they would be like trying to text, trying
Speaker 2: to FaceTime. They would be like, Grandpa, how come you
Speaker 2: don't have Snapchat? Like yeah, right, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1: Or they could come visit him all they can all
Speaker 1: come visit him, and those boys would be so incredibly bored. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you know, just looking at all the old people
Speaker 1: and being bummed just the way I sort of am
Speaker 1: so No. I mean, it's the stories are charming and
Speaker 1: it's fine. It's just what kind of show do you
Speaker 1: want to make? Does Mike sure want to write another
Speaker 1: book when this one is over? About aging grice?
Speaker 2: How we care for our elders.
Speaker 1: How we care for our seniors, or how to have
Speaker 1: a distinguished end of life or what? And he just
Speaker 1: he started out with the detector John and he's saying,
Speaker 1: why don't we just have wisdom about the old age.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but this seemed kind of phillery right
Speaker 1: in a charming and lovely way, and uh, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: but move along. I did appreciate that the depth of
Speaker 1: the undercover here is such that he has Julie as
Speaker 1: the lock screen on his phone.
Speaker 2: Oh I missed that.
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe it was maybe she was calling him and
Speaker 1: that's why it came on now that Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: thought it was still screen and that's it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: You definitely, if you're undercover, you want to make sure
Speaker 1: that the lock screen on your phone has something that
Speaker 1: backs up your story. Yes, very smart, like not not
Speaker 1: your real daughter, the real Emily, yeah, yes, or something
Speaker 1: that would blow your cover.
Speaker 2: But we do feel like that's probably coming at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think so, but it's okay. So this
Speaker 1: was the fourth episode.
Speaker 2: No, this was five.
Speaker 1: This was five, so we have three more after this.
Speaker 1: The little thing came up that said day twenty two
Speaker 1: there towards the end. So he's been doing this for
Speaker 1: like three weeks with no no progress whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, basically especially since since Elliott's watch got returned. Right,
Speaker 2: So now we're kind of back to where we started.
Speaker 1: Well, somebody dropped it in Charles's apartment and then he
Speaker 1: sort of orchestrated or returned right, right, I know, but
Speaker 1: I mean like except whoever? Yeah, so that nobody's complaining
Speaker 1: me right, right, but still the person who dropped it
Speaker 1: in his room. No, theoretically though, we feel no sense
Speaker 1: of urgency about that. What's anyway? So do you think
Speaker 1: a high school production of Guys and Dolls would be
Speaker 1: the thing that? Are there any any high schools doing Guys? Actually,
Speaker 1: my kids in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about San Francisco, but my kids'
Speaker 2: school just did it.
Speaker 1: Mike did that nice in the fall.
Speaker 2: I guess they did it.
Speaker 1: Last high school musical I went to see was when
Speaker 1: the high school here did Rent, which.
Speaker 2: Was yeah, that's that's a stretch.
Speaker 1: Was really surprised they were allowed to do that. But
Speaker 1: and I mean they did a good job. They did fine.
Speaker 1: I think some of the lyrics were maybe toned down,
Speaker 1: but the still the basic characters were what they were.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean they do have like sort of
Speaker 2: high school versions of certain shows.
Speaker 1: That's right. So yeah, high school high school musical, the musical,
Speaker 1: the high school edition. They did that. Actually, they did
Speaker 1: high school musical audition at the middle school here, but
Speaker 1: I didn't. I did not partake in that one because
Speaker 1: I had nobody When when the school here did Rent,
Speaker 1: I knew some of the kids in the cast, so
Speaker 1: it was interesting to go watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and middle school just might be a bridge too far.
Speaker 2: I mean, high school is one thing. Middle school unless
Speaker 2: I don't think you want to see unless you gave
Speaker 2: her that, you know, unless one of those kids lives
Speaker 2: in your house, then you yes, it's gonna be probably
Speaker 2: a pass.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but one of my dogs has opinions. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you can hear them, but sorry I can't.
Speaker 1: They think they think that there's well, actually that dog.
Speaker 1: The dog got quite a lot of screen time is
Speaker 1: still the stuff, right. I think that your dogs are
Speaker 1: probably wondering why there's not a living dog?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Could they not have? The guests can't have little dogs
Speaker 1: or cats? Right? So we don't have any really much
Speaker 1: in the way of parenting tips from this other than
Speaker 1: call your elderly parents call them now, and children, raise
Speaker 1: your children up now so that they will call you
Speaker 1: when the time and visit you in whatever facility they
Speaker 1: have some strategy and buy you an expensive massage. Are
Speaker 1: just because they look right, and maybe have you live
Speaker 1: in their homes where you can pick apart and your
Speaker 1: jewelry will be a warehouse safe. That's right.
Speaker 2: Oh well, well.
Speaker 1: And call your dad, Emily, call.
Speaker 2: Your dad, because we want to hear from it. We
Speaker 2: are interested. We miss you, Emily when you.
Speaker 1: When your dad is old, you still have to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: still have to go visit if nothing else, and to
Speaker 1: give us something to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yes, please maybe next time? Maybe, yes, next week it
Speaker 2: is episode six, Our man in Sacramento. Oh maybe they're
Speaker 2: going on a field trip of some kind. They're gonna
Speaker 2: load them all up in a bus and go to Sacramento.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: But this makes you want to get old so you
Speaker 1: can live in the kind of place where you could
Speaker 1: take a bus strip to Sacramento. Well, around here it's
Speaker 1: bus trips to Atlantic City to get right, but big
Speaker 1: with the s. I don't think anybody would want to
Speaker 1: go to Trenton. No, I don't know what they would.
Speaker 1: What do you. I've been to Sacramento trying to think
Speaker 1: that there's anything interesting to do there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stay capital, old town, Sacramento, old.
Speaker 1: Town, getting in a place speaking of old town, you couldn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Well, we'll find out, and we
Speaker 2: will find out. We'll talk about it next week and
Speaker 2: we'll see you back here tomorrow for our weekly Roundabout roundup.
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