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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of February

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourth, we're continuing with A Man on the Inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Season one, Episode five was called Presence and Clear Danger,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the lesser puns we've gotten. And also no

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<v Speaker 2>Emily again.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no Emily, and really I mean there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little danger at the beginning because they realized that somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>onto them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right they.

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<v Speaker 1>Julie gives Charles an ostentatious watch, figuring that somebody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to steal it, and instead somebody leaves Elliott's

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<v Speaker 1>watch in his room, and so they kind of dispatch

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<v Speaker 1>that threat, and then they're just sort of waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>something to happen, as are we all, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wanders on into a saddish sort of episode

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<v Speaker 1>about old people and the way we treat our seniors

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<v Speaker 1>and why don't we get that massage chair when we

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<v Speaker 1>can really enjoy it, and you know, somebody with the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going into the memory unit, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>just we sort of lost track of the case. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he just kind of stopped being a detective and started

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<v Speaker 1>being a guy who is now recalling his wife's dissent

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<v Speaker 1>in this woman he's just briefly made friends with. And

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<v Speaker 1>what was that exactly? Not through what show is that

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<v Speaker 1>we are watched? Yeah, yeah, because it was a detective

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<v Speaker 1>show for five minutes, and then it was a melancholy

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<v Speaker 1>look at aging, except Elliott has cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>And Elliott's getting married again though, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, he in Victoria, Virginia, Virginia. He and Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>are getting married again, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Awe, but I was not convinced as to I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand why he was pursuing her. Again, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he was pursuing her even before he got his diagnose.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he saw his doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>She intuited that his cancer was bad, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that was the reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Why she said, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>She may legitimately care for him, and also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll be fun. I don't know what his prognosis is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not like she's tying herself down forever. But

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that it was because she because she asked

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<v Speaker 1>him immediately when she saw his demeanor, herd kind of

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<v Speaker 1>changed immediately. So again it was all about this is

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<v Speaker 1>what the end of life is like. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like for all these old people here. And isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of melancholy and okay? Fun half hour there?

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<v Speaker 1>You go, right, that's great. What what were we doing

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<v Speaker 1>here again?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me think, oh, yeah, we're solving a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't even like a little teaser at the end

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of brought us back to it. It just wandered,

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<v Speaker 1>as old people are like this off in a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different direction, which makes me think, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this show about? Is this a detective show?

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<v Speaker 1>By way of talking about deep, deep thoughts about aging

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<v Speaker 1>or is it actually a detective show that happens to

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<v Speaker 1>have that setting.

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<v Speaker 2>And perhaps somebody doesn't know and has not yet figured

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<v Speaker 2>that out.

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<v Speaker 1>I have that feeling, so that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you kind of work that out before you start

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<v Speaker 1>the series.

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<v Speaker 2>Without Yeah, maybe eight episodes were more than you needed, because.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm I'm really kind of okay either way.

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<v Speaker 1>The detective stuff was fun and funny and that was cool,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you know, I like my group of

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<v Speaker 1>friends type shows, and if they want to do one

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<v Speaker 1>with all old people, I think that could be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's wistful and melancholy, sometimes that's okay. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that you can just sort of, on

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<v Speaker 1>a week by week basis decide to be one or

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<v Speaker 1>the other, especially if you say clear danger in the

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<v Speaker 1>times and then you can just completely forget that unless

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<v Speaker 1>the danger is life. Life is the danger it will

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<v Speaker 1>get you, and I don't want that to be what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. That seems a little much, you guys, come on, possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for those of us sort of roughly in the

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<v Speaker 1>age group of your well mind wife yet but hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>there I've had a week or two makes me think

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<v Speaker 1>I could fit in very well with those people. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, would like to have a young person come

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<v Speaker 1>with a cup of water in my pills would be

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<v Speaker 1>very helpful. And uh, you know and mix you of

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan exactly. Yes, I probably can't have a Manhattan with

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<v Speaker 1>all that medicage for myself. How did they work that out?

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<v Speaker 1>How did they How can any of those people have

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<v Speaker 2>Question?

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<v Speaker 1>If they've got there, They've got their blood pressure medication,

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<v Speaker 1>they got their statin medication, They're probably on some heart thing,

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably on something, some kidney stuff. You know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that big water for you all. Maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>herb tea, but no caffeine. Oh well, it just was

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<v Speaker 1>was weird. Did you feel that way too?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, you know they had this scene of Charles

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<v Speaker 2>and bossy Susan, the president of the association, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>making demands about security and and Charles was obviously just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sitting back and like, I'm I'm not really here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm just I'm just along for the ride because.

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<v Speaker 1>I got well, he didn't have to do anything because

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was doing all the time, for sure. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, then you had the you know, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>from corporate come in and just be like, oh things

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<v Speaker 2>are things are okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean he was saying like they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>money for that's this sort of thing. Right, It's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nice looking place. I'm guessing those these people are

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<v Speaker 1>dropping some bucks to be there. Oh yeah, how can

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<v Speaker 1>they not have money for security? It's not like this

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<v Speaker 1>is like the welfare hotel down right, you know in downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>This looks like it would be a place where people

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<v Speaker 1>who have money would pay money to be right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and also it wouldn't cost money to like not

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<v Speaker 2>allow any old person to access people's rooms, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I get they need they need it for

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<v Speaker 2>emergency purposes, but people are just really really going in

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<v Speaker 1>Of the room, yeah, for reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you know, Deity's the one behind it all. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's the thief because you know, she is the only

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<v Speaker 2>one who really technically should have access to everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Yeah, yeah, except we don't want to suspect her

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<v Speaker 1>of anything. It's just the case is just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>wandering off into her relevancy. Yes, and nobody. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was such urgency that they've got to they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to find this. They've got to do this right away.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we're on day twenty two now and

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<v Speaker 1>not particularly close to me closer, and yet nobody's we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't we've we've just seen the lady who had her

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry stolen wants. She hasn't been in every episode going

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<v Speaker 1>where are my jewels? I'm gonna bring you all down?

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<v Speaker 1>Her son, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't seen Yeah, Mark Kevin Jackson hasn't been.

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<v Speaker 1>Back saying that would be fine, It would be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I paying you for?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I like seeing him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems like we have a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>on our hands, right and focus. Focus.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our parenting tip for them. Yeah, it's our

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<v Speaker 2>parenting tip for the show, Like, you need to focus,

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<v Speaker 2>You need to figure out what you're trying to say

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<v Speaker 2>and say it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. Let's let's get get to work here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm, But boy do I miss having the little Emily

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<v Speaker 1>parenting moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If they've got if they've got time for Virginia and

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<v Speaker 1>Flow to go to the supermarket, which we've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>before and just walk around and look at stuff they

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<v Speaker 1>had time for Emily, absolutely come on. And even if

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<v Speaker 1>that actress is not available. A couple of her sons

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<v Speaker 1>could just get on the phone and that would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine. They wouldn't even know how to talk on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>They would they would be like trying to text, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to FaceTime. They would be like, Grandpa, how come you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have Snapchat? Like yeah, right, that'd be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they could come visit him all they can all

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<v Speaker 1>come visit him, and those boys would be so incredibly bored. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just looking at all the old people

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<v Speaker 1>and being bummed just the way I sort of am

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<v Speaker 1>so No. I mean, it's the stories are charming and

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. It's just what kind of show do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make? Does Mike sure want to write another

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<v Speaker 1>book when this one is over? About aging grice?

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<v Speaker 2>How we care for our elders.

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<v Speaker 1>How we care for our seniors, or how to have

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<v Speaker 1>a distinguished end of life or what? And he just

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<v Speaker 1>he started out with the detector John and he's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we just have wisdom about the old age.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but this seemed kind of phillery right

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<v Speaker 1>in a charming and lovely way, and uh, you know, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but move along. I did appreciate that the depth of

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<v Speaker 1>the undercover here is such that he has Julie as

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I missed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, maybe it was maybe she was calling him and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it came on now that Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was still screen and that's it's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely, if you're undercover, you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the lock screen on your phone has something that

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<v Speaker 1>backs up your story. Yes, very smart, like not not

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<v Speaker 1>your real daughter, the real Emily, yeah, yes, or something

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<v Speaker 1>that would blow your cover.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do feel like that's probably coming at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would think so, but it's okay. So this

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<v Speaker 1>was the fourth episode.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this was five.

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<v Speaker 1>This was five, so we have three more after this.

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<v Speaker 1>The little thing came up that said day twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>there towards the end. So he's been doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>like three weeks with no no progress whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, basically especially since since Elliott's watch got returned. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So now we're kind of back to where we started.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, somebody dropped it in Charles's apartment and then he

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<v Speaker 1>sort of orchestrated or returned right, right, I know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like except whoever? Yeah, so that nobody's complaining

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<v Speaker 1>me right, right, but still the person who dropped it

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<v Speaker 1>in his room. No, theoretically though, we feel no sense

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<v Speaker 1>a high school production of Guys and Dolls would be

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that? Are there any any high schools doing Guys? Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know about San Francisco, but my kids'

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<v Speaker 1>Mike did that nice in the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Last high school musical I went to see was when

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<v Speaker 2>Was yeah, that's that's a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Was really surprised they were allowed to do that. But

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean they did a good job. They did fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some of the lyrics were maybe toned down,

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<v Speaker 1>but the still the basic characters were what they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean they do have like sort of

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So yeah, high school high school musical, the musical,

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<v Speaker 1>the high school edition. They did that. Actually, they did

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<v Speaker 1>high school musical audition at the middle school here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I did not partake in that one because

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<v Speaker 1>I had nobody When when the school here did Rent,

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting to go watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and middle school just might be a bridge too far.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, high school is one thing. Middle school unless

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you want to see unless you gave

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<v Speaker 2>her that, you know, unless one of those kids lives

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<v Speaker 2>in your house, then you yes, it's gonna be probably

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<v Speaker 2>a pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but one of my dogs has opinions. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you can hear them, but sorry I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>They think they think that there's well, actually that dog.

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<v Speaker 1>The dog got quite a lot of screen time is

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<v Speaker 1>still the stuff, right. I think that your dogs are

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<v Speaker 1>probably wondering why there's not a living dog?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Could they not have? The guests can't have little dogs

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<v Speaker 1>or cats? Right? So we don't have any really much

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of parenting tips from this other than

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<v Speaker 1>call your elderly parents call them now, and children, raise

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<v Speaker 1>your children up now so that they will call you

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<v Speaker 1>when the time and visit you in whatever facility they

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<v Speaker 1>have some strategy and buy you an expensive massage. Are

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<v Speaker 1>just because they look right, and maybe have you live

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<v Speaker 1>in their homes where you can pick apart and your

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry will be a warehouse safe. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, well.

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<v Speaker 1>And call your dad, Emily, call.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dad, because we want to hear from it. We

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<v Speaker 2>are interested. We miss you, Emily when you.

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<v Speaker 1>When your dad is old, you still have to go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>still have to go visit if nothing else, and to

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<v Speaker 1>give us something to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, please maybe next time? Maybe, yes, next week it

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<v Speaker 2>is episode six, Our man in Sacramento. Oh maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>going on a field trip of some kind. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>load them all up in a bus and go to Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>But this makes you want to get old so you

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<v Speaker 1>can live in the kind of place where you could

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<v Speaker 1>take a bus strip to Sacramento. Well, around here it's

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<v Speaker 1>bus trips to Atlantic City to get right, but big

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<v Speaker 1>with the s. I don't think anybody would want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Trenton. No, I don't know what they would.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you. I've been to Sacramento trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>that there's anything interesting to do there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I stay capital, old town, Sacramento, old.

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<v Speaker 1>Town, getting in a place speaking of old town, you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. Well, we'll find out, and we

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<v Speaker 2>will find out. We'll talk about it next week and

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