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Speaker 2: All right, hour number three, the five o'clock hour. It
Speaker 2: is now, it's not coming right up, it's it's happening
Speaker 2: as we speak. In fact, we're a little late, but
Speaker 2: better late than ever. Five oh six here on a
Speaker 2: Monday afternoon. Hopefully you had a good weekend. I know
Speaker 2: I did. The weather was phenomenal and obviously the mess
Speaker 2: that is the waterfront because of all the flooding. That
Speaker 2: was the reason why they canceled thunder over Louisville. And
Speaker 2: they made the right decision. I don't think you make
Speaker 2: that kind of decision without without you know, realizing what
Speaker 2: it is you're doing. That's what needed to happen because
Speaker 2: of the flooding we haven't had and you know, thirty
Speaker 2: years around here. But we couldn't have had a better
Speaker 2: day as far as weather on Saturday, if you know,
Speaker 2: if they were able to do the fireworks and the
Speaker 2: air show. But you know, mother Nature got in the way,
Speaker 2: didn't she. She's been real you know what I feel
Speaker 2: like around here in the last three or four months,
Speaker 2: and when we had a brutal winter and then insane
Speaker 2: rain that you just don't see very often. But all
Speaker 2: in all, a good weekend, no doubt. A lot of
Speaker 2: the local I don't know if all the local baseball
Speaker 2: leagues out there for kids started their season Saturday, but
Speaker 2: I know it was opening day at a handful of
Speaker 2: ballparks in the area, and I had dad duty, and
Speaker 2: it was it was one of those moments where I'm
Speaker 2: you know, it's not it's it's really become my entire existence, right,
Speaker 2: And if you have kids, I'm sure you know, right,
Speaker 2: life takes a big difference. Life changes drastically for you,
Speaker 2: and it'll never be the same once you become a parent.
Speaker 2: But to balance the taking my daughter to her came
Speaker 2: and Moose played at the same time. Obviously they're in
Speaker 2: different leagues, so my wife and I were going back
Speaker 2: and forth trying to you know, trying to. I got
Speaker 2: to his game, but not in time. She wouldn't able
Speaker 2: to go to Maya's game, so but hey, it's part
Speaker 2: of being a parent. Now. Good news is that her
Speaker 2: games are always on Saturdays and Mooses are actually during
Speaker 2: the week, but for opening Day they have everybody play
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Just to kind of make it a big,
Speaker 2: a big kickoff to the to the season your Mike's
Speaker 2: son still.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was sitting here type and looking for something,
Speaker 3: but I was, I was. I was just about to
Speaker 3: interject and say I noticed something.
Speaker 2: What did you notice the beard? Stubbles gone, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it was gone Friday Friday.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So can I look like the washed up
Speaker 3: dad for you on a weekend?
Speaker 2: Could you? I don't have like an interesting story as
Speaker 2: to why I decided to shave it off on Friday morning,
Speaker 2: but there was a specific kicker for me that you know,
Speaker 2: put me in that direction because I was on the
Speaker 2: fence like do I really want to keep looking like
Speaker 2: I don't take care of myself and I have bad
Speaker 2: hygiene because I got this for the ride. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: And I think there was an intrigued to kind of see, Okay,
Speaker 2: what if you did have a beard, what would it
Speaker 2: look like? Because that was the closest I've probably ever have,
Speaker 2: I've ever had to it, and it probably is the
Speaker 2: closest I'll ever get because I just will probably now
Speaker 2: shave every few days like I have really for the
Speaker 2: entire time I've been an adult. But what sent me.
Speaker 2: I was kind of I was getting closer to realizing, Okay,
Speaker 2: this doesn't look good at all right now, and I'm
Speaker 2: not even sure if I give it another month, well
Speaker 2: I even be able to have what people would call
Speaker 2: a beard, because I just don't grow much facial hair.
Speaker 2: But my mother did not have any any hesitation to
Speaker 2: tell me that she did not like it. So I
Speaker 2: feel like.
Speaker 3: Moms always say that to their baby face children.
Speaker 2: Was the decision she I mean, she wasn't like rude
Speaker 2: or anything, but you know, she she she wasn't a
Speaker 2: big fan. So the next morning when I got up
Speaker 2: and got out of the shower where I decided to shave,
Speaker 2: and I was happy that I did so, because you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I look great now. I'm sure
Speaker 2: I don't, but at least I don't have like those
Speaker 2: patches is of no hair and then and also I
Speaker 2: don't have to be reminded that there's there's there's great too.
Speaker 2: You know that's not something I was thrilled to see.
Speaker 2: But yes, I did decide to shave it off, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know it was a shortly If you look like
Speaker 2: yourself again, if you were able to experience the barely
Speaker 2: their facial hair many beard, if we can call it that,
Speaker 2: then consider yourself lucky, because I don't think you'll see
Speaker 2: me with that for a long time. I'll cherish that
Speaker 2: that we had together. I appreciate the support that you
Speaker 2: had for me, though. Guess whenever I need it, maybe
Speaker 2: I could get a beard.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to start paying more attention to your
Speaker 3: face now now that I know that it can happen,
Speaker 3: and if I could push you, if I have to
Speaker 3: understand you're not comfortable with it.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was my plan, is that I wanted to
Speaker 2: just you know, grow some awful looking whatever it's called
Speaker 2: on my face, some fuzz, just to see if people noticed.
Speaker 2: And then you know, now they're going to be reminded
Speaker 2: they need to take advantage when they get a chance
Speaker 2: to see this.
Speaker 1: Mum.
Speaker 2: It's not a bad plan. And again, I always hope
Speaker 2: that people who listen to this show have some level
Speaker 2: of you know, they have a radar for sarcasm, because
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of it here. I hope
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Speaker 2: ninety seventy three. I've neglected you guys today, but it's
Speaker 2: been a Monday Show's gone by insanely fast. We've talked
Speaker 2: about a lot of things and we'll continue to keep
Speaker 2: it rolling along here. And we did talk about the Masters.
Speaker 2: I won't reset that entire thing because I don't know
Speaker 2: how entertaining or interesting it was. But for me, someone
Speaker 2: last week talking about how golf is the one sport
Speaker 2: that if I really wanted to know more about it
Speaker 2: and be interested in it like I would, I would
Speaker 2: have invested some time to learn. So you know, it's
Speaker 2: people like what they like. Golf is just fine without me.
Speaker 2: I'm not anti golf. It's just never hooked me and
Speaker 2: been interesting enough for me to follow along. But with
Speaker 2: a Master's playing out yesterday and Roy McElroy looking as
Speaker 2: if he was in the driver's seat, then he had
Speaker 2: some really disastrous holes where it looked as if maybe
Speaker 2: he was gonna choke it away. In fact, he kind
Speaker 2: of did choke it away until you know, he was
Speaker 2: able to hold on long enough to get to to
Speaker 2: get to those extra rounds and get it done. But
Speaker 2: I felt I wouldn't say, like proud of myself because again, like,
Speaker 2: it's not that, but it was a highlight for me
Speaker 2: that I did find myself not turning on CBS because
Speaker 2: I had FOMO. It wasn't because like, man, well everybody
Speaker 2: else is watching this, I've got to tune in now.
Speaker 2: It wasn't because well, you know, it's gonna be something
Speaker 2: I got to talk about on the show, so I
Speaker 2: better be, you know, at least able to know what happened.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just because I saw the initial
Speaker 2: early stages of Sunday. We were at my in lost
Speaker 2: house doing a little Easter get together, had a great
Speaker 2: get together, and they just had it on television, so
Speaker 2: I was keeping up, you know, from that aspect, and
Speaker 2: then obviously it was a tight finish and when we
Speaker 2: got back to the house, turned it on, watched it
Speaker 2: all the way through, and it was something I'm glad
Speaker 2: I watched. It was an exciting finish and you know,
Speaker 2: you can see, you know, for me because I probably
Speaker 2: tuned in longer than I ever have for golf, you know,
Speaker 2: I got to notice some things that you know, it
Speaker 2: wasn't as if I was not aware that there's a
Speaker 2: lot of drama. And you can tell, you know, the
Speaker 2: body language, the facial expression of players when things are
Speaker 2: going really well and obviously whenever things are falling apart.
Speaker 2: And that was that was that was that was probably
Speaker 2: what stood out to more than anything. It's just to
Speaker 2: visibly see Rory dealing with like, oh, is he about
Speaker 2: to do this? Is he about to choke this away?
Speaker 2: And in the end he held on and got it done,
Speaker 2: and it you know, without knowing for sure sort of
Speaker 2: what the read is on him, like is he a
Speaker 2: fan favorite? And I don't really know if he's like
Speaker 2: the most popular guy, but it did seem as if
Speaker 2: a lot of people were happy for him that he
Speaker 2: was able to hold on and get it done. Briceont
Speaker 2: to Shambeau not so much a popular guy, it seems,
Speaker 2: and he was a real competitor. He was a threat
Speaker 2: until you know, he wasn't. And then how about justin Rose,
Speaker 2: I think I saw is this the second or third
Speaker 2: time he's finished in second at the Masters?
Speaker 3: Second he finished the same thing playoff a.
Speaker 2: Player years ago. Yeah, that would be tough. That's rough
Speaker 2: because you know, you never really know how often you're
Speaker 2: even going to be in a position to potentially get
Speaker 2: a win in the final day, Right, That's tough enough,
Speaker 2: But then to get there twice and then come up
Speaker 2: short in that and in that way. I mean, again,
Speaker 2: it's better than not being a contender at all, but
Speaker 2: man to get that close and then let it slip
Speaker 2: away with stink And honestly, it sounds like Rory had
Speaker 2: some experience with that, right, And that's why I guess
Speaker 2: what made the story. You know what it was, So
Speaker 2: again I enjoyed it. Won't lie to you and act
Speaker 2: like I'm going to be tuning into all the major
Speaker 2: tournaments and following along closely. But a lot of the
Speaker 2: things that i'd heard that make golf interesting and entertaining
Speaker 2: for people that I've never really experienced, I did get
Speaker 2: a chance to experience some of that yesterday, and that
Speaker 2: was fun for me.
Speaker 3: I want to know what oddly would have brought back
Speaker 3: from me is when I'm sitting there watching it yesterday
Speaker 3: this time last year, because Louisville was preparing for the
Speaker 3: PGA Championship to come to Valhalla, right, that was like
Speaker 3: a huge thing in the city, and I remember going
Speaker 3: and being a part of it, and I don't know,
Speaker 3: I just I think that might have captivated me with
Speaker 3: my golf fandom, was actually going to a major event
Speaker 3: last year and I got to see all these guys
Speaker 3: I'm watching on TV walk by me and everyone cheer them,
Speaker 3: and like see how people actually spectate golf in a
Speaker 3: live realm, and it's it's pretty interesting, it's pretty fun
Speaker 3: to watch, and I just thought it was a whole
Speaker 3: vibe and it just made me think, Man, I bet
Speaker 3: doing that at Masters is even at Augusta, is even
Speaker 3: on a much more top flight. But I think you
Speaker 3: got to be invited to come to the Masters. It's
Speaker 3: like a lottery system.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can't just show up.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you can't buy ticket. Well, you get picked
Speaker 3: to buy tickets, kind of like the bananas do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the PGA Championship, I got lucky last year
Speaker 2: because the biggest story out of Louisville in the calendar
Speaker 2: year and the biggest stories surrounding that event that was
Speaker 2: here had nothing to do with the sport of golf.
Speaker 2: It was it was Scotty Schefler getting arrested, which I
Speaker 2: didn't need to know anything about golf to talk about that.
Speaker 2: And then of course, again I'm not exaggerating, that was
Speaker 2: a huge story all over the world. Like that was
Speaker 2: one of those dude, that was one of those moments,
Speaker 2: and there haven't been many of them where you can
Speaker 2: tell where we are, where we exist, we are being
Speaker 2: talked about, maybe not just the city itself as far
Speaker 2: as like the culture or the weather, but like something
Speaker 2: is such something going on in our city is a
Speaker 2: global talking point. And Scotty Scheffler getting arrested the morning
Speaker 2: of the of the PGA Championship in Valhalla, like that
Speaker 2: was one of those moments. It was kind of almost
Speaker 2: like surreal, like is this really happening? And of course
Speaker 2: it all played out to where LL ANDPD looked awful.
Speaker 2: I mean even they know that too, by the way,
Speaker 2: Like you know obviously the actions of that one. You
Speaker 2: know cop that crowd about his pants. I think he
Speaker 2: pooped his pants and just needed some idy to replace him.
Speaker 2: That's what he was upset about it. But but like
Speaker 2: you know, and then Seve Broman' is a very phenomenal
Speaker 2: attorney who was the last guy LMPD wanted to see
Speaker 2: out there representing Scheffler because he pointed out how poorly
Speaker 2: that thing was handled in every aspect. And I hated
Speaker 2: it because I do support LMPD and I know that
Speaker 2: the actions of one or two or three officers maybe
Speaker 2: don't represent everybody. But it was a bad look all
Speaker 2: the way around. But man, what a huge story that
Speaker 2: it was. The other the other stories that I can
Speaker 2: just think of, more so than anything as somebody in
Speaker 2: this position, is when Muhammad Ali died. That was I'm
Speaker 2: never experience anything like that again, because I didn't know
Speaker 2: what that was until that happened, Meaning I didn't know
Speaker 2: what it was like to to be, you know, embedded
Speaker 2: within the story. Not to say we had anything to
Speaker 2: do with it, but like we were in Louisville, we
Speaker 2: understand better than anybody what Muhammad Ali means to this city,
Speaker 2: in this community. And then you know, it's I've never
Speaker 2: found a I've never found a good way to discuss
Speaker 2: this on a plot from like radio without sounding like
Speaker 2: insensitive to death. But when someone passes away. I mean
Speaker 2: just because of how things are, You're going to find
Speaker 2: things about, Like somebody will probably be talked about among
Speaker 2: people more than they ever will in their life after
Speaker 2: they die, especially if they die as legends or they
Speaker 2: die unexpectedly. So you're going to learn more about people
Speaker 2: after they're gone because of all the conversations that take place.
Speaker 2: So with Muhammad Ali, I mean to this day, I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's a ton of stuff that we don't know
Speaker 2: that he did. That was you know, a big deal
Speaker 2: in a great way. I mean, he was such an
Speaker 2: impactful person within our planet, not just our city, state
Speaker 2: and country that you know, just just hearing everybody talk
Speaker 2: about him and seeing the send off that he had
Speaker 2: here in his own city and of course across the
Speaker 2: world people honoring him as he passed away like that
Speaker 2: was like that was something I'll never forget ever. And
Speaker 2: being able to be like on the air I was
Speaker 2: on noon to three on seven ninety at the time,
Speaker 2: I was relative early on in my time here, I
Speaker 2: believe I think that was in twenty sixteen, I think
Speaker 2: maybe seventeen, but either way, and I remember like talking
Speaker 2: about like the city and how everybody's you know, just
Speaker 2: it felt like everything stopped, and it felt like there
Speaker 2: were more eyeballs on Louisville than we've ever had. And
Speaker 2: that was just a cool experience because you know, clearly
Speaker 2: Ali was proud as hell to be from Louisville, and
Speaker 2: we were proud as hell that, you know that we
Speaker 2: get to call this place home to where he where
Speaker 2: he you know, where he grew up. And of course
Speaker 2: he's the one. There's plenty of famous people who've had
Speaker 2: such a big impact on other aspects of life that
Speaker 2: are from here, but like Alish is different.
Speaker 3: Man, Like it's it's different that interstate shut down people
Speaker 3: standing out on the parade road, the parades, it was.
Speaker 3: It was crazy. Have you ever been over to Cave
Speaker 3: Hill to see his memorials?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, it's it's really nice. And I thought it
Speaker 2: was really cool that whenever I'm not sure if they
Speaker 2: still do this or not, but they would take recruits
Speaker 2: who come and visit Louisville to his his childhood home
Speaker 2: and just kind of show like, you know, that's neat.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know at times, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly, I think it makes total sense, but
Speaker 2: I know there have been some that have said, Okay,
Speaker 2: can we do something else? Do we need to keep like, well,
Speaker 2: if we're gonna have like a special event, like, do
Speaker 2: we really have to make everything Ali inspired until the
Speaker 2: end of time, every team at u of L, if
Speaker 2: they have one or more than one event where they
Speaker 2: make it like the Ali inspired uniforms or the Ali
Speaker 2: Promotions day, Like in my opinion, you can't do that
Speaker 2: enough because I mean there's no like when it comes
Speaker 2: to Okay, who's the most known successful human that is
Speaker 2: publicly a you know, from your city and they were
Speaker 2: proud of it. You knew it, you knew where he
Speaker 2: was from. I mean he was. He'd show up to
Speaker 2: u of L games. I mean he was. He was
Speaker 2: at midfield whenever Louisville played in the Sugar Bowl or
Speaker 2: the Orange Bowl down in Miami. So like it was
Speaker 2: known he was from Louisville and proud of it, and
Speaker 2: he was a big supporter of u of L. But
Speaker 2: like you know, you go, we go top celebrity, influential
Speaker 2: person that's a part of a fan of your school.
Speaker 2: Like we're not losing to many, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Because we got Ali and we got the Ali Center here.
Speaker 2: It Wasfho River. It was up for debate whether it
Speaker 2: was either going to be in LA or New York,
Speaker 2: and Muhammad wanted it here in Louisville. That's awesome. Now
Speaker 2: the other and this is probably not something and we
Speaker 2: don't need to talk about it, but since we are
Speaker 2: discussing at least moments where I felt like we had
Speaker 2: more attention on the city than ever, those two come
Speaker 2: to mind. The Scheffler thing, Ali passing away and just
Speaker 2: the funeral to send off that that that whole thing,
Speaker 2: but also I mean Breonna Taylor stuff like that was
Speaker 2: like you could just tell that that was that was
Speaker 2: a national story that you know, you brought up Louisville,
Speaker 2: Kentucky to people in that in that window of time,
Speaker 2: that was probably going to be the first thing that
Speaker 2: they think of. So anyways, uh, let's see the Tennessee
Speaker 2: quarterback whose name I can tell you his first name right,
Speaker 2: because that's pretty easy, Nico. But is it is it
Speaker 2: I Ron l that starts? Is it Lama Lavea? I
Speaker 2: think I said that commidently, didn't I Lama level?
Speaker 3: Well, when you said it like that very confidently, it
Speaker 3: does sound good. But also the who was the first
Speaker 3: take girl. What's her name is, Molly Quorum?
Speaker 2: Molly Quorum.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that what may be true too, because
Speaker 3: I think we may be uh mistaking that first like
Speaker 3: letter I for an L god, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll we'll just call him Nico Nico So. Nico Nico
Speaker 2: A apparently wanted his an IL deal to be upped
Speaker 2: to four million dollars before the portal closed, and apparently
Speaker 2: Tennessee they were not gonna. They weren't mean And it
Speaker 2: sounds like just because I've been interested to kind of
Speaker 2: see if there's been any legitimate reporting. When I say legitimate,
Speaker 2: I mean like somebody who has covered SEC football or
Speaker 2: Tennessee football for a long time that what in fact,
Speaker 2: has have legitimate resources to get information, and I think
Speaker 2: this person is trustworthy. That's Chris Lowe, who's covered SEC
Speaker 2: football fre ESPN for a long time. He's a Capital Jay,
Speaker 2: as they say. It sounds like initially Tennessee was dealing
Speaker 2: with this by just kind of ignoring his handlers, like
Speaker 2: his family, and they didn't think it was an issue
Speaker 2: so much with him, which is kind of sad, right,
Speaker 2: Like he may not be really worried about it, he's
Speaker 2: just working on getting better. Yet he's got people behind
Speaker 2: the scenes that are trying to individually cash in on
Speaker 2: his career, which really isn't that uncommon. But once Tennessee
Speaker 2: apparently realized that, you know, they weren't going to be
Speaker 2: able to protect Nico in that he was likely going
Speaker 2: to follow through with I guess what his camp wanted
Speaker 2: him do, which was to set out he didn't show
Speaker 2: up to either a practice or a team meeting, and
Speaker 2: at that point, Tennessee cut ties with him, and he'll
Speaker 2: be transferring and going elsewhere. And I mean, good on
Speaker 2: Tennessee one for not panicking, right because not to say, look,
Speaker 2: if players have leverage and they use it, that's what
Speaker 2: most humans would do, Like that's just how I mean,
Speaker 2: that's just life. But this seems to be I mean,
Speaker 2: you could argue that this guy is not worth what
Speaker 2: he was already making. I mean, he was a barely
Speaker 2: above average SEC quarterback. Yes, they were having success, but Tennessee,
Speaker 2: you know, when it really became evident that josh Hipel
Speaker 2: was going to be able to get Tennessee relevant again,
Speaker 2: which he has they beat They beat Alabama twice in
Speaker 2: the last few years. I mean, Tennessee made a lot
Speaker 2: of bad hires after Phil Former, but I think Joshippel
Speaker 2: is clearly the guy that has been the best since then.
Speaker 2: And I think Tennessee has has reminded people that yes,
Speaker 2: we can be elite at football. But with Hypel, he's
Speaker 2: known for what a big, high powered offense. Well, Tennessee
Speaker 2: under Nico wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire. Like again,
Speaker 2: he was fine, and yes he's young, he could get better.
Speaker 2: But to know that he wanted more than four million dollars,
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't mean if you and then
Speaker 2: this is where it really becomes an issue for Tennessee.
Speaker 2: I think even if they wanted to make it right
Speaker 2: with Nico and never let this become a story and
Speaker 2: just get in whatever money was needed because they trust him,
Speaker 2: the story became too big. It created a life of
Speaker 2: itself to where now if you were to get him back,
Speaker 2: and let's say you, you know you crawled to him
Speaker 2: and left him a blank check and said, Nico, please whatever, whatever,
Speaker 2: we just can't lose you, I think you'd lose some
Speaker 2: respect in that locker room because I think those guys
Speaker 2: have to know that, Yeah, the quarterback is always going
Speaker 2: to get more than most and the quarterback is important.
Speaker 2: But like we know this guy is and isn't going
Speaker 2: about it the right way. We know that, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean holding out in the spring to kind of
Speaker 2: hold your team's feet to the fire. You can do
Speaker 2: whatever you want. You have the right to do it.
Speaker 2: But it backfired on him because I don't think he'll
Speaker 2: end up at a better program, Like I think, honestly,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm way wrong here. This will probably be what
Speaker 2: he's most known for as a quarterback in college. No,
Speaker 2: like he'll go elsewhere, but like he's he gonna I mean,
Speaker 2: is he gonna have success to the level of like, like
Speaker 2: put it this way, what's more likely he ends up
Speaker 2: being a fine quarterback elsewhere, but like the team's not great,
Speaker 2: they're not making the playoff his numbers or whatever. Or
Speaker 2: he goes somewhere and wins big and Tennessee looks foolish.
Speaker 2: I think the first scenario that I threw out there
Speaker 2: is way more likely. Or he could go somewhere else
Speaker 2: and stink, like you know, there's also a level of
Speaker 2: maybe Josh Hipel And again, this guy had all the
Speaker 2: hype coming out of high school so he's been believed
Speaker 2: to be this game changer QB for a long time,
Speaker 2: since early high school years. But he also, you know,
Speaker 2: was playing for a quarterback or he's playing for a
Speaker 2: coach that most quarterbacks can shine under, and that's Josh Hypel,
Speaker 2: just because how good he is as an offensive coach.
Speaker 2: Or one question I had for folks out there, and
Speaker 2: I'll ask you this as well, Austin, because I don't
Speaker 2: have any really strong opinion on it, but this is
Speaker 2: also just a reminder of how different things are. So
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning, he is the Oregon head coach and to
Speaker 2: my knowledgy, he's the only person that actually did tewn
Speaker 2: did turn down Alabama in order for you know, that
Speaker 2: job to end up going to Kaylen Deibor. But he
Speaker 2: is reportedly the coach who let Tennessee know. Apparently Dan
Speaker 2: Lanning has a relationship with Josh Hypel, and he let
Speaker 2: Hypel know that Nico was sniffing around to get more money.
Speaker 2: Basically like he knarcked on him, basically saying, hey, your
Speaker 2: quarterbacks out here being shopped. His father, his agent, whoever
Speaker 2: it is, they're shopping him, and you need to know
Speaker 2: because he's going to come back to you and tell
Speaker 2: you he needs this amount of money and if not,
Speaker 2: he's going to go elsewhere. And I want you to
Speaker 2: know he tried to get it from us, and we
Speaker 2: told him there's no scenario we wouldn't we. Somebody, somebody
Speaker 2: behind him on the paywalls said that Dan Lanning essentially
Speaker 2: told whoever was asking for if there'd be interested in Nico,
Speaker 2: that they wouldn't pay him with Tennessee's paid him now.
Speaker 2: So part of me says, well, that that's karma that
Speaker 2: backfires on somebody, like on Nico and his family or
Speaker 2: his camp, whoever it is that things they can manipulate situation.
Speaker 2: But then there's also some saying, well, hey, you know
Speaker 2: you should have kept that internally. Your coach is a snitch.
Speaker 2: I don't I kind of don't mind him at all
Speaker 2: doing that, you know what I mean, Like, if you're
Speaker 2: I'm an Oregon fan, I don't care that he did
Speaker 2: that at all, And I would be mad if he
Speaker 2: did try to, you know, poach this guy and give
Speaker 2: up that kind of money. I mean, Oregon has Nike money,
Speaker 2: they probably have endless amounts of it. But I just
Speaker 2: think that's another sign of this thing being a backfire
Speaker 2: for Nico and his group, but also like coaches need
Speaker 2: to start doing that because here's I don't have a
Speaker 2: whole lot of sympathy for them when they claim that,
Speaker 2: you know, they're victims and all this, because yes, they've
Speaker 2: had to make some drastic changes to this job, because
Speaker 2: you know what, the job has changed. You have to
Speaker 2: do things now that you didn't have to do. You
Speaker 2: can't do it the same way you did twenty years
Speaker 2: ago and expected to work out the same way. Because
Speaker 2: players have power in a way they never have before.
Speaker 2: They went from having no power at all to now
Speaker 2: really being able to do whatever the hell they want.
Speaker 2: And that's a that's a big difference for these coaches.
Speaker 2: But coaches also have to kind of collectively. Let me
Speaker 2: give you an example. Whenever Deshaun Watson got that hilariously off,
Speaker 2: all time terrible contract from the Cleveland Browns, every quarterback
Speaker 2: in the NFL knew to Sean Watson wasn't worth that
Speaker 2: many quarterbacks were up for a contract that knew if
Speaker 2: he can get that, I'm getting more because that guy,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have MVPs and his trophy case like I do.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Lamar Jackson, But I give the NFL owner's credit.
Speaker 2: They had a consistent message to everybody, that's only the Browns,
Speaker 2: dumbass franchise that would do that. Nobody else is getting
Speaker 2: that money. You're not getting it. It's not it's not realistic.
Speaker 2: So any quarterback claiming DeShawn got this, I want that
Speaker 2: or more, you just need to understand that's just the
Speaker 2: Browns being dumbasses. Nobody else is gonna get paid like that.
Speaker 2: And I think for a while it was tough for
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson to accept that, but that's what happened. Like,
Speaker 2: that's what it came down to. Only the Browns would
Speaker 2: have done that, and the rest of the league was
Speaker 2: not going to conform to Okay, well, I guess that's
Speaker 2: the new price tag for a new franchise quarterback. No,
Speaker 2: they knew, Okay, that's ridiculus. And we need to set
Speaker 2: the president that that was just the Browns being incompetent,
Speaker 2: which they've been really their whole life or their whole existence.
Speaker 2: So there needs to be a level of college coaches.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're always paranoid about stealing from each other,
Speaker 2: and you know, they always got to get an edge
Speaker 2: but when it comes to players just trying to you know,
Speaker 2: see how big they can take it as far as money,
Speaker 2: like there needs to be like a coaches collective and
Speaker 2: I don't mean like a collective where they are raising money,
Speaker 2: but like they could internally if they wanted to work together,
Speaker 2: like they could say, look here's where we're going and
Speaker 2: if you want to play college football, we we as
Speaker 2: a group of coaches have said this is the most
Speaker 2: that will pay. I mean, I don't know if you'd
Speaker 2: be able to do that, because I mean, actually you could,
Speaker 2: because yes, the NCAA is going to say, well, you
Speaker 2: can't restrict them. There's no way you can put a
Speaker 2: cap on it. That's not right. You don't have the
Speaker 2: right to do that. Fair enough, Well, it's not a cap.
Speaker 2: We're just collectively only going to offer what we what
Speaker 2: this is. They never do that because I mean, they
Speaker 2: don't want to work together. They want to you know,
Speaker 2: each other, because it's competition. But anyways, quick break, we'll
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Speaker 2: So long before the transfer portal became what it is
Speaker 2: now and we had free agency like we do now
Speaker 2: with Anil and all that. I remember, Wow, what first
Speaker 2: it was just a different world. But I had a
Speaker 2: hard time even attempting to fake like that I could
Speaker 2: talk about a player that I'd never heard of or
Speaker 2: know anything about, like that's a recruit like it used
Speaker 2: to just irk me. And I don't know why. But
Speaker 2: there'd be there'd be a high school kid who you know,
Speaker 2: three star kid, you know, top one fifty, and you've
Speaker 2: seen ninety seconds of his highlights on YouTube or Twitter, Facebook, whatever, Instagram,
Speaker 2: and there's so many that just like, oh, this guy's
Speaker 2: a stud, this guy's great. Look at his ability to
Speaker 2: do this, and that he's good at this and that.
Speaker 2: And for the most part, I think it comes from
Speaker 2: just fans wanting to be so excited about any player
Speaker 2: that they bring in. But it also just and again,
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that people love this stuff around here.
Speaker 2: People didn't love it the way they do, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have this job, So I do understand it from that aspect,
Speaker 2: But like what happened to just like being real with
Speaker 2: ourselves and living in reality and knowing that, like, we
Speaker 2: don't know anything about these players, right, Like even if
Speaker 2: you're basing it off of, well, this guy is a
Speaker 2: five star or four star and he chose Louisville or
Speaker 2: Kentucky over this school and that school. That's a reference
Speaker 2: point that I think you should It is valuable, But
Speaker 2: like when you get into the weeds of like he's
Speaker 2: good at this and that, like none of us know.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you have an ability to watch a
Speaker 2: ninety second highlight reel of a high school basketball or
Speaker 2: football player and you can determine just how good they
Speaker 2: are from that, you need to be working for the
Speaker 2: NFL or the NBA or something. So I thought that
Speaker 2: the portal would make it to where that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 2: But I was wrong. And what I mean is that
Speaker 2: I'm willing to tell you when Louisville gets commitments from
Speaker 2: certain players, I'm not gonna lie to you and talk
Speaker 2: about how great they are. I'm gonna tell you, Yeah,
Speaker 2: had never heard of him until he either decided to
Speaker 2: transfer to Louisville or he was being recruited by Louisville.
Speaker 2: And then I looked up. Okay, yeah, this guy, you know,
Speaker 2: let me give you an example, Booba Car Trail Ray,
Speaker 2: Long Beach State. Like, what's wrong with just everybody acknowledging
Speaker 2: none of us knew who that was until he ended
Speaker 2: up on the radar. I mean, you know, it's a
Speaker 2: give and take because again, as much as that, for
Speaker 2: reasons I don't really know, irritate me, it's just people,
Speaker 2: you know, just fake taking it. I suppose. Also, I
Speaker 2: think the root of why they do that is because
Speaker 2: they just want to be that excited about whoever said
Speaker 2: player is. But the portal, I mean, look, you could
Speaker 2: bring in a class that features really good players that
Speaker 2: by all accounts have given you a top five portal
Speaker 2: class in your class that's ranked I don't know, three
Speaker 2: or four. It could feature players that you've never heard
Speaker 2: of during this past season because you know they were
Speaker 2: playing at low level schools. Well, now you've got guys
Speaker 2: that commit to Louisville and Kentucky from across the pond.
Speaker 2: That clearly it was like it was. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody, and I could be wrong, trust me,
Speaker 2: I'm not plugged in at all. And you know, certainly
Speaker 2: not what I used to be. But like when Sonny
Speaker 2: Frew committed to Louisville, whenever that was, I mean, I
Speaker 2: was willing to acknowledge. Never heard of the guy, but
Speaker 2: from what I know, he's twenty years old, he's played
Speaker 2: in a professional league the last couple of years. Here
Speaker 2: is it's not here are his numbers? Seems like a
Speaker 2: pretty good get, Like it's okay, that was you know,
Speaker 2: That's the way it was for me. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: a lot of Louisville fans probably did the same thing.
Speaker 2: Or maybe you know, maybe they I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: they were fake taking it and acting like, oh, I've
Speaker 2: been watching this guy's film from over in Germany for
Speaker 2: the last two years. Knew he was on the verge
Speaker 2: of getting that offer from Louisville, Like maybe you knew,
Speaker 2: I don't know. But nonetheless, Kentucky landed a new prospect
Speaker 2: from from overseas this weekend, and it's the same situation,
Speaker 2: Like it's okay to be excited. I'm sure your excitement
Speaker 2: is just because you're a fan, and I'm not here
Speaker 2: to tell you that the guy won't be great. Maybe
Speaker 2: this new guy that Kentucky added, whose name is uh
Speaker 2: is it Billovic? Billachick? I think that's his name, Like
Speaker 2: maybe he becomes like an All American next year. Who knows,
Speaker 2: none of us know. But I just wish there was
Speaker 2: a little bit more of living in reality and being
Speaker 2: honest with ourselves that he didn't know who this was
Speaker 2: Andreja Andrea Jelovich. His last name is pretty easy to say,
Speaker 2: Jelovic first name. I'm sure there's a couple of different
Speaker 2: ways that you could say it, but it led to
Speaker 2: like Kentucky. Oh I thought Pope was Withpan not so much.
Speaker 2: We got Jellovich and you know, like cool, like maybe
Speaker 2: he's maybe he's Michael Jordan, but like you don't like
Speaker 2: to act as if, oh, yeah, y'all thought Pope was
Speaker 2: working or y'all thought Pope was sleep and he was
Speaker 2: out working. So the kid may be great, but like,
Speaker 2: can't we just can we be honest and real with
Speaker 2: ourselves and act like we don't know who these guys
Speaker 2: are until they end up here and we just have
Speaker 2: to wait and see how it plays.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: I guess that wouldn't be fun and technically that wouldn't
Speaker 2: be what this is meaning. Sports radio very much built
Speaker 2: on speculation, fake takes and that kind of stuff hypotheticals.
Speaker 2: But one thing that is definitely worth mentioning about both
Speaker 2: these guys. They'll be first year college players, but they're
Speaker 2: grown men. I mean, I don't know their exact age,
Speaker 2: but you know, Sonny frew is, I believe, going on
Speaker 2: twenty one years old, and he's played professional basketball for
Speaker 2: quite some time. So you know, that doesn't guarantee anything
Speaker 2: as far as what he can and could do at Louisville,
Speaker 2: but I like the idea of his of what he's bringing.
Speaker 2: So in his last ten games for his team in
Speaker 2: Braunschwig kind of felt like I sounded like I knew
Speaker 2: what I was saying, but I don't know if I
Speaker 2: said it correctly. But it is in Lower Saxony, Germany.
Speaker 2: That's where he plays his professional league, and those that
Speaker 2: cover you know, international basketball, they've been sharing his numbers
Speaker 2: and again, in his last ten games, he's averaged sixteen points,
Speaker 2: eight point seven rebounds, just under two blocks per game,
Speaker 2: shooting sixty five percent from the field seventy three point
Speaker 2: three percent from the line. And he's only he's a
Speaker 2: big man, right, He's he's six', eleven so he didn't
Speaker 2: take a lot of, threes but he can make. Them
Speaker 2: so he's shooting forty point three percent from three on
Speaker 2: two attempts per. Game so it's not he's not necessarily
Speaker 2: this stretch big that's just out there roam in the
Speaker 2: three point. Line he gets a lot of his work
Speaker 2: done around the. Rim he plays above the. Rim he's really,
Speaker 2: physical but if if there is a pick and pop,
Speaker 2: situation he gets a clean, look he's more than comfortable taking.
Speaker 2: It look at, Me, Yeah i'm acting like you. Guys
Speaker 2: don't know who these guys. Are i'm just watching highlights
Speaker 2: and looking at. Numbers but you just never know any
Speaker 2: of this stuff. Translates BUT i just thought this was
Speaker 2: worth mentioning, that according to let's see this is a
Speaker 2: this is an account that covers international. Basketball he says
Speaker 2: this was definitely an under the radar commit For louisville
Speaker 2: and mentions that THE bbl league In germany is typically
Speaker 2: considered a top eight twelve league in the. World so,
Speaker 2: again he's not in THE nba playing, professionally but he
Speaker 2: is playing in a competitive, league and will those numbers
Speaker 2: there In germany translate To division one here At louisville
Speaker 2: only time will, Tell BUT i really really like THE
Speaker 2: i mean again as A louisville. FAN i, mean, however
Speaker 2: they get really good players that help us. Win that's
Speaker 2: that's you, know that's ALL i care. About but when
Speaker 2: you can get somebody who doesn't, have you, know the
Speaker 2: high school experience doesn't have a bunch of offers because
Speaker 2: they didn't play on THE au, circuit but yet they
Speaker 2: played professional basketball against grown. Men there's value there and
Speaker 2: it's never been more needed than now because, again five
Speaker 2: six years, ago the average college basketball's player's age at
Speaker 2: the high level was probably twenty twenty. One, now i'd
Speaker 2: say the average as far as your starting lineup in
Speaker 2: college basketball right, now probably closer to twenty, three twenty
Speaker 2: two to twenty. THREE i should. Say now again With
Speaker 2: kentucky's latest commit this, guy And i'm trying to uh cause,
Speaker 2: Again i'm sure these guys had, options meaning Both Sonny
Speaker 2: frew And Andrea, djavelovich but LIKE i don't, see like
Speaker 2: did they Pick kentucky over this school or pick Love
Speaker 2: all over that. School but this guy's played In Serbia,
Speaker 2: jelovich that's where he has played his last two. Seasons
Speaker 2: he's going to turn twenty one in a month from.
Speaker 2: Now he averaged double digit points in each of his
Speaker 2: last two. Seasons he's currently averaging ten point eight points per.
Speaker 2: Game And i'm trying to, see, LIKE i don't even
Speaker 2: know is He is he a Big, okay he's, uh let's,
Speaker 2: see he's got a seven to two, Wingspan BUT i don't, see,
Speaker 2: like is he is he a post? Player you think,
Speaker 2: that you? Know, oh here we. Go he's he's six,
Speaker 2: eleven but he's got a seven two wing span AND
Speaker 2: i can't tell if he's a three point shooter or.
Speaker 2: Not but either, way both schools here locally have added
Speaker 2: two guys That i'm sure the majority of their fan
Speaker 2: bases had never heard. Of but who, knows maybe next,
Speaker 2: year next, SEASON i should say this upcoming, season maybe
Speaker 2: these two guys, are you, know key. Pieces all, right
Speaker 2: let's see real quick before we get to Our, actually,
Speaker 2: no we need to get to our final break now
Speaker 2: SO i can make SURE i get a little bit of.
Speaker 2: Time BUT i want to talk About Michael Brown junior
Speaker 2: on the other, side Because i'm doing something for the
Speaker 2: first time ever as A louisville basketball, fan and it
Speaker 2: kind of feels. Fun but it's also kind of. Scary
Speaker 2: so we'll talk about that. Next keep it a lock
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Speaker 2: Day, so when it comes to high school basketball, RECRUITING
Speaker 2: i mean it's always been really, important not as important
Speaker 2: now because you can build a roster year by year
Speaker 2: with nothing but grown men in the porol rather than
Speaker 2: guys coming fresh out of high. School but one thing
Speaker 2: that we paid more attention to Was louisville fans based
Speaker 2: off the fact that it was an annual thing For
Speaker 2: kentucky to have a bunch of one and dons every,
Speaker 2: year and early on they had a lot to show
Speaker 2: for those one and, dons not as much in the
Speaker 2: last half of The caliperi. Era But lowell never had.
Speaker 2: ONE i mean we had, many many one and, dons
Speaker 2: but not one and DONE nba like guys who just
Speaker 2: showed up and then left to go somewhere, else you.
Speaker 2: Know so AND i remember we used to be, like
Speaker 2: why can't we get? One AND i maybe it was
Speaker 2: just my way of coping with, it BUT i would, think, like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: kentucky what they're doing is insanely. Rare but there's a
Speaker 2: lot of other programs that aren't as successful As louisville
Speaker 2: is that has been able to get A Jalen brown
Speaker 2: at Cal, A Anthony edwards At, Georgia Kevin durant even At.
Speaker 2: Texas but what did those programs get out of that
Speaker 2: some note, right some pub because they were the home
Speaker 2: of a FUTURE nba star for a little, while but
Speaker 2: they didn't, win you know WHAT i. Mean AND i
Speaker 2: would just be more underwhelmed with my team if we
Speaker 2: got one of these Shiny burger boys that was destined
Speaker 2: to be a lottery pick after one year in, college
Speaker 2: only to then not make the most of, it and
Speaker 2: it be Over romeo Ol langford In, indiana WHICH i
Speaker 2: think Had rick not got, fired he would have been
Speaker 2: the one one and done That rick never. Had SO i,
Speaker 2: mean even before the portal became what it is, NOW
Speaker 2: i just you know you can do. That but even
Speaker 2: when you were doing, that Like Duke, Kentucky, kansas all
Speaker 2: those schools that tried to build their roster every year
Speaker 2: with as many elite high school kids as they could,
Speaker 2: get the only two that won titles that people just
Speaker 2: forget about were teams that also had really good veterans
Speaker 2: that helped them win. Championships you talked about that a
Speaker 2: couple weeks, Ago Like duke when they won it With
Speaker 2: jila Loka for And Justice. Winslow they also Had Quinn
Speaker 2: cook And Emil. Jefferson When Lucky wanted in twenty, twelve
Speaker 2: they also Had Terrence, Jones Doron Lamb, Senior Darius. Miller
Speaker 2: so like you've always had to have some veteran presence,
Speaker 2: too you. See, anyways WHAT i was mentioning before taking
Speaker 2: the break there is THAT i have never really looked
Speaker 2: at a freshman coming in At louisville as somebody that
Speaker 2: we had to rely on to do a whole lot
Speaker 2: or we wouldn't be very. GOOD i mean With, rick
Speaker 2: it was always the good freshmen that were coming. In
Speaker 2: you just hope, that, like if they're getting if they're getting,
Speaker 2: action if they're a part of your, rotation that probably
Speaker 2: means you got a pretty good. Team so for, Me
Speaker 2: i'm having a tough time not getting super excited about
Speaker 2: mckail brown junior because he wins the McDonald's All american
Speaker 2: three Point, shootout and then you go To Jonathan givoni
Speaker 2: who is the leader when it comes to draft. COVERAGE i,
Speaker 2: mean He's draft express is REALLY i, think in a
Speaker 2: world of its own as far as draft. Coverage, WELL
Speaker 2: espn bought it because that's how valuable he is when,
Speaker 2: covering you, know THE Nba, Draft and he's just raving
Speaker 2: about mckail brown and talking about how let me pull
Speaker 2: up the exact tweet, here BECAUSE i, mean this is
Speaker 2: the kind of thing, That, yeah maybe it's a little bit,
Speaker 2: hyperbole maybe IT'S i, mean in, fact he's not really
Speaker 2: he's not really saying anything. Outlandish BUT i feel, like
Speaker 2: for the first, Time i'm gonna have a tough time
Speaker 2: not Expecting louisville to be really good and one of
Speaker 2: those big factors being their freshman point. Guard Maybe i'm
Speaker 2: being a fool here because it's been it's harder now
Speaker 2: than it's ever been in order to make a huge
Speaker 2: impact as a true freshman unless you're one of the
Speaker 2: elite of the. Elite but it you, know it seems
Speaker 2: like this guy is one of the elite of the.
Speaker 2: ELITE i mean HE'S i, Mean, Marie, yeah this is
Speaker 2: this is From Jonathan. Givoni this Was this was just
Speaker 2: a few days, ago Says Louisvill brown Mkil brown having
Speaker 2: an Absolutely i'm, SORRY i can't read having an absurdly
Speaker 2: good week at The Nike Hoops, summit clearly separating himself
Speaker 2: as the best guard prospect on either, team gets anywhere
Speaker 2: he wants on the, floor highly skilled inside and outside the,
Speaker 2: arc can, pass it may end up being a top
Speaker 2: five pick. OVERALL i don't know If louisville has ever
Speaker 2: had a freshman in my lifetime that was talked about
Speaker 2: like that by somebody who you, know maybe you don't
Speaker 2: even know Who Jonathan givoni. Is you should if you
Speaker 2: KNOW nba basketball and like the. DRAFT i, mean that's
Speaker 2: that's what he. Does so, again you never know until
Speaker 2: these guys get, here put on the uniform and they
Speaker 2: go out there and show what they can. Do but this,
Speaker 2: guy you, know when you talk about, well, okay, yeah
Speaker 2: you can still have really good freshmen and they can help,
Speaker 2: you but those that really change your, team that's just
Speaker 2: one of maybe four or five. Guys maybe this guy
Speaker 2: is one of those four or five. Guys that's what
Speaker 2: it's starting to seem. Like it's exciting, stuff all, Right
Speaker 2: hopefully you guys had fun TODAY i had fun getting
Speaker 2: the week. Started we're here all, week so, yeah stick Around.
Speaker 2: Austin you have a good, night my, friend you, too
Speaker 2: care aboudy
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