Speaker 1: Oh red Tsar, Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the
Speaker 2: Cage to Night, I am Raven Lee, I'm Jonathan, and.
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to our Cult Member live event Christmas Special.
Speaker 4: If you.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, everybody welcome, Welcome, Welcome. You know what we
Speaker 3: do need to go ahead and get real for a
Speaker 3: minute before we get into the malarkey and the bullshit
Speaker 3: and the chicanery as we do.
Speaker 4: We do need to get real.
Speaker 3: So for anybody who does not know the spirit animal,
Speaker 3: our beloved Samuel the Sweet, innocent, highest fuck Platypus himself,
Speaker 3: he fell in some financial hard.
Speaker 2: Times in this holiday season.
Speaker 3: We asked all the good Cult members if they would
Speaker 3: be willing to open their wallets and pitch in to
Speaker 3: help the overarching goal.
Speaker 4: It closes tonight.
Speaker 5: So closes tonight. We're almost there.
Speaker 6: We're at currently at three thousand, seven hundred and ninety
Speaker 6: dollars indeed to see.
Speaker 2: So for anybody who is listening to this, this episode
Speaker 2: is going to be dropping actually Fridays, So if you're listening,
Speaker 2: the ballocher closed. There is no other option to donate
Speaker 2: at this time, but from the bottom of my personally,
Speaker 2: I want to thank all the good cult members that
Speaker 2: we're able to donate something to sam This is this
Speaker 2: is a huge boost as far as our own our
Speaker 2: spirit goes, that we have cult members that are this
Speaker 2: dedicated to the cause that they be willing to actually
Speaker 2: donate for somebody in need.
Speaker 4: And I would hope that we have.
Speaker 3: Grown this cult to be something that we would uh,
Speaker 3: we'll be able to do this again. If somebody falls
Speaker 3: on hard times, you reach out to your cult members,
Speaker 3: not cult leaders. Nobody in this bitch a cult leaders.
Speaker 3: We are cult members just like everybody else.
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Okay, fine, Jesus the one and only are.
Speaker 4: But I am.
Speaker 3: I'm very happy and very humbled that we have so
Speaker 3: many cult members that are willing to help when the
Speaker 3: time comes. Thank you for everybody who was able to donate, Samuel.
Speaker 3: I don't know the financial issues goes, but hopefully damn
Speaker 3: near four grand will be able to get you through.
Speaker 2: The tough times.
Speaker 7: It paid the rest of the surgery, no doubt. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: it paid.
Speaker 8: I just did the rest of that with the hospital
Speaker 8: and now that's awesome.
Speaker 6: Well good, I'm glad that it was able to help
Speaker 6: you in some way. I did want to read off
Speaker 6: the people that contributed.
Speaker 4: Shout outs all the way around.
Speaker 6: So the most massive shout out to Carl f I
Speaker 6: don't uh, he donated two thousand and five hundred dollars
Speaker 6: to you, Sam Carl.
Speaker 5: That's that's crazy. So that's amazing.
Speaker 8: I woke up to that this morning and that then
Speaker 8: I got everything. Yeah, and I paid it this morning
Speaker 8: and I sent him with thank you. I sent I
Speaker 8: think believe everybody a deep thank you.
Speaker 6: People have been still contributing up until like it just
Speaker 6: five minutes ago. So we have Stephanie in, we have
Speaker 6: Robert s.
Speaker 5: We have is that Shawnan Shawna.
Speaker 6: Shawna Kay Shawna Kay Mario. We have Royce, Dougie Blumpkin.
Speaker 5: Indeed, we have Dave J.
Speaker 6: Marshall, p Jonathan Uh, we have Alicia. We have my
Speaker 6: mom donated to you.
Speaker 5: By the way, my mom a your mom.
Speaker 6: My mom donated the three hundred dollar to you, and
Speaker 6: she's awesome.
Speaker 5: And we have Tony.
Speaker 6: We have two anonymous people, and we all also have
Speaker 6: a couple of other people that have donated. Cynthia Cynthia
Speaker 6: Cynthia C also was able to donate to you.
Speaker 3: So oh JM. Seven four three is unmuted, but that's fine.
Speaker 3: Listen to all the good cult members that were willing
Speaker 3: to open up their wallets and help out Sam and
Speaker 3: his time of need.
Speaker 4: From the bottom of the entire.
Speaker 3: Cult's hearts, we thank you, and hopefully we are able
Speaker 3: to repeat this in the future if and when any
Speaker 3: of our good cult members find themselves in some sort
Speaker 3: of hard times, we're able to take up a collection.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I think we can all understand that none of us,
Speaker 3: myself ravenly John, none of us are exactly living rich
Speaker 3: and famous over here. We all still have that poor
Speaker 3: man's mentality and when the hard times come, because brother,
Speaker 3: they are coming. I hope that in the future we'll
Speaker 3: be able to pull together and help all the cult
Speaker 3: members that have issues that come up.
Speaker 2: Sam, go ahead, brother, the floor is yours.
Speaker 8: I just want to say again, thank you from the
Speaker 8: bottom of my heart, and I pray that everybody has
Speaker 8: a very blessed holiday, whether that be Hana, Conso, Christmas,
Speaker 8: or whatever have you. I hope that all of you
Speaker 8: have a good time, eat healthy, and have a good
Speaker 8: time with your family.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: You're welcome.
Speaker 3: Like the Christmas ahead, bro, Rave got this bitch for me,
Speaker 3: and I gotta say I might start wearing this bitch
Speaker 3: in July for no reason.
Speaker 2: This thing is loud and I love it.
Speaker 6: We're in the Christmas pajama style too. We decided we're
Speaker 6: going all out.
Speaker 2: Did you say, Sam, did you say everybody eat healthy? Yea,
Speaker 2: on doing that.
Speaker 7: I didn't healthy, I mean.
Speaker 6: Like be healthy you said. I think you meant eat
Speaker 6: good and be healthy is what you meant?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, all right, all right, yeah, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get fat as fuck for Christmas. I've been on a diet.
Speaker 2: That bit is gone for the next week.
Speaker 6: I will say I cooked a big Christmas meal and
Speaker 6: I only have done it, honestly a handful of times
Speaker 6: because my parents have always been the ones to cook.
Speaker 6: My Grandma I definitely helped growing up, but man, doing
Speaker 6: it on your own. And then like because my my
Speaker 6: father passed last year and my grandma passed a several
Speaker 6: years ago, and so I'm calling my mom like, hey,
Speaker 6: so like this is how I do this recipe? Right,
Speaker 6: I know how to do it, but I'm stressed out.
Speaker 6: So I was actually happy that it turned out better
Speaker 6: than I thought I was going to to.
Speaker 4: Be honest, fuck you so uh yeah.
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody into the Cult Member Live show. This is
Speaker 3: a week of Christmas. We have been dropping some holiday
Speaker 3: themed episodes this week. I hope y'all have enjoyed the
Speaker 3: Hanukkah up or excuse me, excuse me.
Speaker 6: I do not do Royce the disservice without putting the
Speaker 6: flim on it. We said that week many times during
Speaker 6: that thing, says Hanka, right Royce, Royce, where are you at?
Speaker 9: Yes, man, I am right here. It was fantastic job
Speaker 9: on them.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed down. We dropped the Hanka episode.
Speaker 3: We dropped the Kwanza and the controversy surrounding Kwanza episode.
Speaker 3: I didn't, I be honest, I didn't know there was
Speaker 3: that much controversy surrounding Kwansa.
Speaker 2: I thought it was wild.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: Wednesday is the obscure obscure holiday traditions around the world.
Speaker 2: You know, the poop log has, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: made its way in.
Speaker 9: We have it.
Speaker 5: We have this. We have the poop log. Y'all.
Speaker 6: We will post a picture of the poop log on
Speaker 6: the Patreon because we actually had to do one.
Speaker 4: It's in Raven Lee's house.
Speaker 2: My house.
Speaker 3: I don't have the kids with me this Christmas. They're
Speaker 3: with their moms. So the poop log will probably make
Speaker 3: its appearance the next year. But stand the fuck by.
Speaker 6: Look we're getting chaos. See tomorrow, we are doing this. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we're gonna go hunt down some KFC. We got the wine.
Speaker 6: We're doing the whole tradition of Japan. So it's gonna
Speaker 6: be it's gonna be a wild time. We definitely had
Speaker 6: a lot of interesting and we had Solstice on Sunday,
Speaker 6: and so we definitely have been celebrating or I've been
Speaker 6: celebrating different different ones.
Speaker 3: And also the Christmas episode itself has already dropped on,
Speaker 3: which is very much not pagan, believe it or not.
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty incredible. So many times we've been told
Speaker 3: the stories of all these Christmas traditions that are super
Speaker 3: rooted in paganism, like not even a little bit any
Speaker 3: of them at all, And it's amazing and it's great,
Speaker 3: and it's it's crazy how the Internet rolls things into
Speaker 3: Lord that people repeat so much that we all believe it. Hell,
Speaker 3: Jonathan and I have been guilty of it so many
Speaker 3: times of believing, Oh the Christmas Tree is obviously pagan.
Speaker 3: Santa Claus is obviously pagan. A Yule log, whatever the
Speaker 3: hell you want to break this down. Historical documentation would
Speaker 3: actually show none of that is pagan, including December twewenty fifth.
Speaker 4: Be honest with y'all, that is a.
Speaker 6: Really weird situation about the specific date. I do still,
Speaker 6: I do still. I am still on the other side
Speaker 6: of the fence of like potentially there is some paganism
Speaker 6: two things.
Speaker 5: But there was a lot of.
Speaker 6: Interesting information and the back and forth between the scholars
Speaker 6: and the dates and all the things that we read.
Speaker 2: So I didn't actually mean you can't deny you can't
Speaker 2: deny that the solstice is absolutely connected to Yes, it's not.
Speaker 4: Though, so solstice ends on the twenty.
Speaker 5: First, per one calendar, per.
Speaker 3: All of them, what it's the seventeenth of the twenty first,
Speaker 3: regardless of which calendar you look at. December twenty fifth
Speaker 3: was not brought up in any single We talked about mythrist,
Speaker 3: we talked about fair we did.
Speaker 5: Talk about like four different times, Satin.
Speaker 4: Surnalia, Solstice, you name it.
Speaker 3: There's no pagan tradition whatsoever, at least that we know
Speaker 3: a documentation that shows December twenty fifth.
Speaker 2: As the day.
Speaker 3: If anything, early Christians were celebrating the twenty fifth as
Speaker 3: his day of birth in the first century AD, long
Speaker 3: before any of the pagan traditions rever written down.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, as far as like astrology goes, what
Speaker 2: is it like the sun goes down for three days
Speaker 2: or something like that and then rises back up right
Speaker 2: around the winter solstice. Isn't that?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so the winter solstice is technical, So Sunday
Speaker 6: was the winter solstice, so the longest night of the year.
Speaker 6: So which was the twenty first, So the twenty fifth,
Speaker 6: the day itself being picked as Christmas was a really
Speaker 6: interesting deep dive that we kind of went down because
Speaker 6: there was a lot of different information as to where
Speaker 6: it actually came from, who didn't belong to, who it
Speaker 6: did belong to, how it came about. It was it did,
Speaker 6: wasn't it though? They They said that it could potentially
Speaker 6: have ties to paganism, but they didn't have the written information,
Speaker 6: I believe is.
Speaker 5: What it said.
Speaker 6: It said that it could be it could be tied
Speaker 6: into pagan solstice situation, but they don't have any of
Speaker 6: the written information.
Speaker 5: They only have the monk.
Speaker 2: Betty, Betty, however you want to call it.
Speaker 6: De They have that, dude, and they have another one
Speaker 6: that they use, and that's the real, I guess, the
Speaker 6: most history that we have about different types of solstice
Speaker 6: information from that time period.
Speaker 3: They're not saying that there's a zero percent chance. They're
Speaker 3: saying that we have no documentation on record period as
Speaker 3: of this moment that would indicate that the twenty fifth
Speaker 3: of December has any ties to paganism whatsoever, specifically for
Speaker 3: the twenty fifth.
Speaker 6: Specifically for the twenty fest Yes, if we're talking exactly
Speaker 6: the twenty.
Speaker 3: Fifth wintertime Festiviti's absolutely no. That's but even still the
Speaker 3: festivities as far as Christmas themselves, the tree, a yule log,
Speaker 3: wreathes candles of a gingerbread man, Santa Claus, all of that,
Speaker 3: super super super Christian, not even a slight tinge of
Speaker 3: Paganism on that. Now, there are tons of pagan traditions
Speaker 3: that are still celebrated to this day, and we talked
Speaker 3: about those on the Obscure Traditions episode. Hell England has
Speaker 3: like fifteen different pagan groupings.
Speaker 6: We're going to be wildin out with the amount of
Speaker 6: it that they do. They have so many different types
Speaker 6: of obscure traditions that they practice, and all different pockets
Speaker 6: of England too.
Speaker 5: It's is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no one set England pagan one for one
Speaker 3: translation like Brighton celebrates different than suffolkx celebrates different than
Speaker 3: Wessex celebrates different than Whales.
Speaker 2: The Welsh.
Speaker 5: The Welsh be wilding out.
Speaker 6: I like the Welsh tradition though the mar yes, yeah,
Speaker 6: I like that one a lot. I'm not gonna lie yo,
Speaker 6: get drunk, put a fucking horse head on and go
Speaker 6: seeing it go yell insults and sing insults to each other,
Speaker 6: and whoever insults each other the best if they can
Speaker 6: gain entry then those then they just adopt more.
Speaker 5: Men into the thing.
Speaker 6: And by the end of it, a whole bunch of
Speaker 6: drunk men are insulting each other with a horse head on,
Speaker 6: and like it's a whole vibe.
Speaker 2: It starts with like three dudes and the guy wearing
Speaker 2: the horse.
Speaker 3: By the end of the night there's like twenty five dudes,
Speaker 3: all pissed drunk, just going house to house and like
Speaker 3: kidnapping more men to just get drunk with.
Speaker 2: Them as they go house to house. It sounds like
Speaker 2: some BoJack Horseman shit right there.
Speaker 5: It's crazy. It's some crazy shit.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's some there's a lot of interesting traditions.
Speaker 6: The the flip sides. We when we did the Pagan
Speaker 6: I wouldn't call pay it Mule Christmas episode. So there's
Speaker 6: a lot of uh, scholars that debate on one side
Speaker 6: that the Yule tradition, mule, the word itself and the
Speaker 6: traditions associated with it are pre Christian. Then they're the
Speaker 6: other half that argue that it's post Christian. And so
Speaker 6: that's the big kind of debate between people.
Speaker 2: So it's you know, it was a very good deep dive, honestly.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And we actually didn't even go all the way into
Speaker 6: that article because the article would have taken us probably
Speaker 6: no shit like two hours just to go into that
Speaker 6: one specific article.
Speaker 3: Although if anybody is curious and wants to verify and
Speaker 3: fact check any of the things brought up in that article,
Speaker 3: your boy brought receipts, he brought his citations, he brought up.
Speaker 6: Scholarsis I will say, though his tone was super biased
Speaker 6: in that article.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but how many biased articles are there talking a lot?
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, there's a ton of biased articles. And so
Speaker 6: it was It was interesting. There was a lot of
Speaker 6: information that you know, there's a lot of backstory. I
Speaker 6: was actually reading more into Old Heaven or Hocken.
Speaker 5: No, it's h k o n. He is the one Hagen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's I was reading more into him, and
Speaker 6: I'm trying to find out all the information i can
Speaker 6: if it was the true, the true Norwegian guy that
Speaker 6: decided paganism, was like, we're fucking tripling down or was
Speaker 6: it the other king that was like, I'm a Christian,
Speaker 6: everybody needs to be Christian with me. I'm trying to
Speaker 6: figure out which is which because there's two of them
Speaker 6: and they have two different spellings, and I'm trying to
Speaker 6: underdecipher between the because it keeps crossing the literature and
Speaker 6: everything that they see.
Speaker 5: So I don't quite know.
Speaker 3: As you still, the Hagen that did translate or convert
Speaker 3: rather to Christianity, he didn't tell the world or his
Speaker 3: people that they can't do the sacrifices. He just said
Speaker 3: that he wasn't going to participate.
Speaker 6: He wasn't going to eat the horse soow, and that
Speaker 6: was a huge deal. He was so as being a
Speaker 6: king per that time period, he was like next in line,
Speaker 6: pretty much too talking with the gods, like the way
Speaker 6: the hierarchy goes, and so for him to just pretty
Speaker 6: much say fuck your traditions, it was a huge issue,
Speaker 6: and they kind of, you know, decided to ride against him.
Speaker 5: So that's where were.
Speaker 3: And then he got violent the next year after they
Speaker 3: set upon him and tried to kill him for being
Speaker 3: a Christian.
Speaker 4: He's like, you know what, fuck it.
Speaker 3: If I gotta do this, everybody's got It's like, okay,
Speaker 3: once you try to have your trusted guys kill you,
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I understand, feel a little jiated.
Speaker 5: Possibly, I guess Tony, we see your hand. What's up?
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I was going to talk about the solstices because I
Speaker 11: think back in the first millennium, around the year five hundred,
Speaker 11: the Solstices were actually on the twenty fifth, but they
Speaker 11: had the Julian calendar, which had too many leap years.
Speaker 11: So remember the Russians actually stayed with that until nineteen eighteen,
Speaker 11: and their calendar was like thirteen days different from US
Speaker 11: thirteen days earlier. So their Christmas is January sixth, and
Speaker 11: it's all it's all just because of the calendar. But yeah,
Speaker 11: the Gregorian Reform was in the fifteen hundreds, and it
Speaker 11: locked down the solstice on the twenty first.
Speaker 3: But even if you do the math ten whole days exactly,
Speaker 3: if you do the math on even by the Julian calendar,
Speaker 3: and it was on the twenty fifth, if you do
Speaker 3: the math on that to see what day of the
Speaker 3: month that would be right now, it wouldn't be on
Speaker 3: December twenty fifth as we know it today. And there's
Speaker 3: also a crumb of truth to say, and kretme Royce
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong here. In the Jewish tradition, the what
Speaker 3: we would say in English, December twenty fifth held a
Speaker 3: lot of resonance as far as Honika was concerned. So
Speaker 3: I've heard some stories to say that the reason why
Speaker 3: Christmas is celebrated on December twenty fifth was particularly because
Speaker 3: of their Judeo background to it all, am I am
Speaker 3: I a close Royce?
Speaker 2: Or what so?
Speaker 12: Tonka begins on the twenty fifth of the month of
Speaker 12: Keith Slim now, so there is a correction.
Speaker 9: So there is a slight.
Speaker 12: Correlation between the dates of the twenty five. But I
Speaker 12: mean where they got it from, I mean, who knows.
Speaker 2: I actually just found something right here that's pretty interesting,
Speaker 2: and y'all did more research on this than I did,
Speaker 2: but I just typed it in. And it says that
Speaker 2: the first recorded Christian celebration of Christmas on December twenty
Speaker 2: fifth was in three hundred and thirty six a d
Speaker 2: in the Roman Empire under Emperor Constantine, though some historical
Speaker 2: evidence suggest earlier observances in the second century, with the
Speaker 2: date likely choosing, or the with the date likely chosen
Speaker 2: to align with the Roman winter Solstice festivals like souln Victis.
Speaker 3: So we looked up Solen Victis as well, and his
Speaker 3: big celebration was in May.
Speaker 6: He had a wildin' out party, though he's had a
Speaker 6: full bore party for like a solid week.
Speaker 2: And so we do.
Speaker 3: There are so many Internet memes and articles that will
Speaker 3: tell you Sole or the mass of Apollofeon or whatever.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Whenever you look at these things and you look at
Speaker 3: what day of the year that actually fell on as
Speaker 3: opposed to the day that we celebrate on today, no
Speaker 3: one really has any justified reason to say December twenty fifth.
Speaker 3: There is the firmest crumb of truth that we can find.
Speaker 3: And I say this with the trepidations and the vital
Speaker 3: article probably is basically that because Jesus was seen as
Speaker 3: the holiest of dudes, there was a belief in the
Speaker 3: first century AD up until the first millennia AD, that
Speaker 3: you would die on the day that you were conceived.
Speaker 5: This is the wildest thing ever heard in my life.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 2: Essentially so. And they did the backtracking on this.
Speaker 3: They know that Jesus died on the night leading up
Speaker 3: to pass Over, and they did the math on this
Speaker 3: to show that it was March twenty fifth, So if
Speaker 3: you go nine months prior, in all the things and
Speaker 3: all the stuff, apparently these people decided that December twenty
Speaker 3: fifth was going to be the day in which.
Speaker 6: I thought he was born in September. I thought he
Speaker 6: was technically born in September.
Speaker 2: They thought so.
Speaker 4: They thought so him.
Speaker 3: We've had multiple people come on the show and say this, however,
Speaker 3: because the shepherds don't tend to their flocks in that
Speaker 3: area of the world in December. However, still to this
Speaker 3: day there are shepherds that tend their flocks in December
Speaker 3: because September, believe it or not, in Judea is an
Speaker 3: extremely arid time of year. December has very high rains.
Speaker 3: Shepherds to this day tend their flocks in that area
Speaker 3: around Bethlehem in December. So that's what I'm saying. There's
Speaker 3: and it depends on what you read. Jonathan. You and
Speaker 3: I have pulled up so many articles and so many
Speaker 3: fact checkers for years and years and years of this show.
Speaker 6: We found a lot of articles, though a lot of
Speaker 6: scholarly articles actually, because we were both debating about this
Speaker 6: back and forth. So his side was that it's post Christianity.
Speaker 6: My side is it's pre Christianity. And while we were
Speaker 6: looking at all of this, we found so many scholarly
Speaker 6: articles for and against, and it was like everyone was
Speaker 6: kind of like, eh, maybe, kind of maybe, but not
Speaker 6: one hundred percent certain. And then when looking at Google,
Speaker 6: you just type it in, you're gonna find forty five
Speaker 6: articles that say this is Christmas is from paganism and
Speaker 6: Christmas is from the Pagans and all of this stuff.
Speaker 6: And so I went through and I read tons and
Speaker 6: tons and tons of articles trying to find real substantial evidence,
Speaker 6: and so I was really looking. So then I went
Speaker 6: in and started reading scholarly articles, which they both His
Speaker 6: articles that he pulled up had a lot of receipts,
Speaker 6: had a lot of backing to it, and so both
Speaker 6: of them had very good valid points. And so realistically,
Speaker 6: when it did say in the article though that they
Speaker 6: were like, look, it could potentially be tied together. At
Speaker 6: this point, no one is going to know for certain
Speaker 6: how exactly they got the twenty fifth of December, at
Speaker 6: least from all the stuff that I've read personally.
Speaker 4: But I didn't like how it showed receipts.
Speaker 6: I didn't like how it kind of broke it. So
Speaker 6: it broke down multiple things. I think we might have
Speaker 6: the article still that it's a very long article. I
Speaker 6: showed one that actually broke down a lot of the
Speaker 6: pagan background of things as well.
Speaker 3: So, and like Yule itself, Yuele is a seasonal thing,
Speaker 3: although yes, in the Nordic calendar, it's also a month
Speaker 3: that would be like mid December to mid January. So
Speaker 3: to say the Yule tidings and all these things, yes,
Speaker 3: for sure. However, that sentence Yule tied carols or whatever
Speaker 3: anything did not actually get written down to the fifteen hundreds,
Speaker 3: although it was five hundred fifteen fifteen hundreds a d.
Speaker 3: So you was, and that's the other thing too, the
Speaker 3: Nordics had a written language. A lot of people will say, oh, well,
Speaker 3: you know, these northern European tribes didn't have written language,
Speaker 3: so they didn't write things down explain rooms to me.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of it, though, was burned and destroyed,
Speaker 6: so a lot of it was oral tradition as well,
Speaker 6: though you have to think so a lot of it
Speaker 6: was oral tradition that didn't survive the sweep of Christianity.
Speaker 3: And then keep in mind Stirlson, who was seen as
Speaker 3: the source for so many things. We don't even know
Speaker 3: if the boy actually existed or not, or if that
Speaker 3: was a pen name for somebody who wrote the shit
Speaker 3: down way late.
Speaker 6: That was really interesting because when they were talking about it,
Speaker 6: it seemed that it was written down later on. And
Speaker 6: so to try and to trace everything back the sagas,
Speaker 6: even the sagas are in question about when they were
Speaker 6: authentically made. And it's unfortunate because I'm sure there was
Speaker 6: actual evidence and there was actual things. But when you're
Speaker 6: sweeping a religion you want to destroy it, You're going
Speaker 6: to destroy every source possible.
Speaker 3: So which is what happened to the Druids, which was
Speaker 3: brought up right the Druids, And we know for sure,
Speaker 3: at least by Plenty of the Elder, that the Druids existed,
Speaker 3: and they did see some sort of reverence to mistletoe. However,
Speaker 3: if you continue reading this story, it is it is
Speaker 3: the Druids. And for anybody who doesn't know, Plenty of
Speaker 3: the Elder, who wrote basically what we can call the
Speaker 3: first Encyclopedia of Ancient Rome, and this was compiled I
Speaker 3: want to say in the seventies, ad don't he said that, Yes,
Speaker 3: the druids got together, they built a scaffold, they cut
Speaker 3: a bit of mistletoe out of a tree with a
Speaker 3: golden sickle, and we've talked about that on the show before. However,
Speaker 3: if you continue reading what he wrote about them, they
Speaker 3: mixed it into a drink and gave it to people. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 3: did you know mistletoe is lethal if you ingest it.
Speaker 3: So what was he trying to make people have a
Speaker 3: psychedelic trip?
Speaker 5: We're trying to get hot, you could say.
Speaker 3: That, but mistletoe has zero psychedelic properties. So when you
Speaker 3: look at mistletoe, Holly and ivy all being associated with
Speaker 3: Christmas themselves and having some sort of a pagan root.
Speaker 3: All of those don't have any kind of Christian connection
Speaker 3: until the Middle Ages, and they all have no actual
Speaker 3: connection to Paganism whatsoever. And there's written documentation to say
Speaker 3: these things. It was a wild episode. It was a
Speaker 3: wild episode. So anyway to go ahead.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Hanika can start anywhere from November twenty eighth to
Speaker 11: December twenty seventh, and that is a twenty nine day span,
Speaker 11: which is the length of one lunar cycle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know that, Thank you for telling me.
Speaker 2: Did we talk about on the episode.
Speaker 9: We we did, because the difference is between.
Speaker 12: The Jewish calendar and the Gregorian calendar different than days.
Speaker 11: It came up, but not the exact dates on our calendar.
Speaker 11: But yeah, the fact that it's lumor makes it hard
Speaker 11: to understand.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 12: Also a mixture of solar and ludor because if it
Speaker 12: was just a lunar calendar, then eventually the summer hallidays
Speaker 12: would be in the winter and winter in the summer
Speaker 12: and vice versa, which is the reason why.
Speaker 9: We have our our leap years of a month.
Speaker 11: Yeah, don't get me started on the Islamic calendar. They
Speaker 11: don't do the leap thing.
Speaker 13: And it's stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chinese do, yeah, animal Yeah, But I say before
Speaker 2: I say what I'm about to say, Sam chime.
Speaker 8: In, Oh did you know that a mistletobian Ethough, it's
Speaker 8: kind of funny because that was that was what they used,
Speaker 8: the low key tricks.
Speaker 2: He killed Balder with a spear made of mistletoe. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well it was.
Speaker 8: I can't remember if it was a spear or if
Speaker 8: it was an arrow, but anyway, that's what he has.
Speaker 8: It was the youngest, it was the youngest of the plants.
Speaker 8: And his mother. I can't think of her name A
Speaker 8: big depends on which iteration, but yeah, uh she did.
Speaker 8: She did not make a pack with it. She made
Speaker 8: a pack with everything, but she did she did not
Speaker 8: consider it the missletoe.
Speaker 3: Which also, how the fu you making a projectile of mistletoe?
Speaker 3: I know how many people have ever actually dealt with mistletoe?
Speaker 3: How you made a weapon out of that is impressive
Speaker 3: in and of itself, But it's it's Nordic paganism. It's
Speaker 3: not supposed to make sense. It's supposed to be a
Speaker 3: really really really cool story, and it is.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 7: That you have a good day.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, bro, speaking of and we talked about the
Speaker 3: Hanukkah and the Jews and stuff like that. Bro, Jonathan,
Speaker 3: have you been keeping up with old Candice?
Speaker 5: So I'm hoping to avoid this bitch?
Speaker 2: Oh No, I was like.
Speaker 5: I was like, man, we don't got to talk about her.
Speaker 5: There was I was like, God in here right now.
Speaker 2: What's his name? Tim Pole?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 13: Tim Pole?
Speaker 4: And her like going at it right now?
Speaker 2: Dude, I can't stand him.
Speaker 3: I just really can't fifty. Sometimes I like what he says.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I can't fucking stand him.
Speaker 2: It varies episode to episode, and we've we've had people
Speaker 2: on the show that have been on The Temple Show
Speaker 2: and talked about how they were treated poorly. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to call it out, but it just seems like
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude. I this whole deal with all
Speaker 2: of these big mainstream like media heads or whatever that
Speaker 2: you know, It's it's like it's cool now because they're
Speaker 2: not on NBC or Fox News or Scene or whatever anymore,
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden people were following them.
Speaker 2: It's like, look at their roots, look where they came from.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about her and Erica Kirk.
Speaker 3: They had this big four and a half hour meeting,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, now Candas has like changed
Speaker 3: your tone a bit, and Erica's like coming after her
Speaker 3: in other regards, and it's like with Nicki Minaj, Yeah,
Speaker 3: y'all saw that ship and nick is like apparently super
Speaker 3: pro Trump, and I'm like, I'm sorry, Nicki, when when
Speaker 3: did when did.
Speaker 4: This take place? I must have missed you it.
Speaker 2: Did you see that in? I don't care. I can't
Speaker 2: remember if it's Hebrew or Simple or English. Gama trio
Speaker 2: Lord that Erica Kirk and Nicki Minaj both equal sixty seven.
Speaker 5: So yeah, my kids be like, fuck you guys, I actually.
Speaker 2: You want to hear something. Actually, dude, I prepared for
Speaker 2: this live show specifically for this moment in time, this moment.
Speaker 2: So last night there I was. I was laying in
Speaker 2: bed like a child of God, and you know, smoking
Speaker 2: on the old divine lettuce and whatnot, and we were
Speaker 2: watching It's always our nightcap show. We always like to
Speaker 2: watch Friends, right, and I stumble across. So if anybody's
Speaker 2: ever seen Friends, they have the whole show and then
Speaker 2: they run the credits for a couple seconds, and then
Speaker 2: there's like the last little portion of the show. That's
Speaker 2: like usually something that's obscure or it doesn't really matter,
Speaker 2: or it's just a funny little end thing to put
Speaker 2: on there. And I was like, hold on, let me
Speaker 2: see this because Ross was talking to Joey's new female
Speaker 2: roommate who he eventually you know, wants to date or whatever. Right,
Speaker 2: he's talking to her out there on the couch in
Speaker 2: Central Perk, and Ross and I had it. I actually
Speaker 2: recorded it, but the audio's ass on it. Let me
Speaker 2: try and see if I can get the actual transcript here.
Speaker 9: I have it.
Speaker 2: Hold up, is it actually? If it would City perk,
Speaker 2: I forget Central Perk. Okay, if you would let me
Speaker 2: share the screen, sir, I would like to show an
Speaker 2: example here and and I'll get into exactly why it's interesting.
Speaker 4: All right, where do I do that at?
Speaker 2: Let's see I might just be able to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's led me all right. Word, So here we go
Speaker 2: some laying in bed. It's only thirty seconds long, fucking Roman,
Speaker 2: let's see. Can you hear this? Yeah? Okay? He said,
Speaker 2: By the year twenty thirty, they'll be computers.
Speaker 5: I can carry out the same number of functions as
Speaker 5: an actual human brain.
Speaker 1: So theoretically downs and memories into this computer.
Speaker 14: And so.
Speaker 13: Right, hip boss.
Speaker 2: So they were calling their shot on Friends in the nineties.
Speaker 2: This is nineteen. This was nineteen ninety nine, this episode
Speaker 2: was put out, okay, And I also just want to
Speaker 2: throw out there, do you see which season in which
Speaker 2: episode this is?
Speaker 5: I can't see that far.
Speaker 2: It is season six, episode seven. I just want to
Speaker 2: throw that out there. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: that's kind of fucking weird, right, because you know, Dan, well, dude,
Speaker 2: Friends was absolutely one of those shows that they were
Speaker 2: just inserting things into the human consciousness. Like it was
Speaker 2: like one of the first shows where a group of
Speaker 2: friends were all hanging out and everybody slept with everybody
Speaker 2: and it was just normal, right Like, up until that point,
Speaker 2: it was pretty like nobody really talked about it that much.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit here and there on cheers and
Speaker 2: shit like that, but like it was undertoned. It wasn't
Speaker 2: overtly out there for sure. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't really
Speaker 2: so much like that. And so then I started doing
Speaker 2: started to do a little bit and just because we're
Speaker 2: on the cult, why the fuck not, let's get into
Speaker 2: why what the Bible has to say, say about six seven.
Speaker 5: Okay, I know six seven in the Bible.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, are you going to every single book,
Speaker 3: whatever chapter and verse chapter six, verse seven of every book?
Speaker 2: I feel like that's gonna be a weird tapestry to
Speaker 2: weave two main ones. And interestingly enough, they are the
Speaker 2: bookends of the Bible. So we have Genesis chapter six,
Speaker 2: verse seven a right, where it says, so the Lord said,
Speaker 2: I will wipe from the face of the earth the
Speaker 2: human race I have created. Praise would be kind of
Speaker 2: strange praise be that was whenever the flood, the alleged
Speaker 2: flood came fucking right. And and then there was Revelation
Speaker 2: six seven where uh, it describes the opening of the
Speaker 2: fourth seal by the Lamb, which is Jesus.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: This event is significant as as it signals the unfolding
Speaker 2: of divine judgment and the introduction of the fourth horsemen,
Speaker 2: often associated with death and destruction. So both of them
Speaker 2: are kind of talking about the same thing in a sense. Right,
Speaker 2: I love it. I love this. So then so then
Speaker 2: I started to dive in a little bit even more
Speaker 2: as far as biblical symbolism, as far as numerology goes,
Speaker 2: all right, I mean, and this is not not strictly gmatrio.
Speaker 2: That's more of a Jewish thing.
Speaker 3: No, no, But if we're going to look at numerology
Speaker 3: as far as Biblical translation goes, six it's the number
Speaker 3: of earth, it's the number of humanities, the number of
Speaker 3: the devil. Seven is the number of completion or totality.
Speaker 3: It's a whole thing. Well, let me let me walk
Speaker 3: you through this.
Speaker 2: So six in the Bible is often understood to mean
Speaker 2: three things, usually man, matter, and the created realm in essence. Right,
Speaker 2: So you have humanity is created on the sixth day. Right,
Speaker 2: the labor, labor of all creation took six days. He
Speaker 2: rested on the seventh remember that part Yep, So there's effort,
Speaker 2: struggle in survival. Then I want to pull up this one.
Speaker 2: This is well, this is actually the six days of creation.
Speaker 2: Days you shall labor and do all of your work.
Speaker 2: But the seventh day is the sabbath to the Lord
Speaker 2: your God. For in six days the Lord made the
Speaker 2: heavens and the earth and rested the seventh day. So
Speaker 2: there's there's your six and seven right there a little
Speaker 2: bit right, Yeah, And so you got six also, it's
Speaker 2: the that's the number for carbon, which is biological life.
Speaker 2: You have six six, six, which is man exalting himself
Speaker 2: as God, which is kind of interesting, right, man putting
Speaker 2: himself as God without God. So that's that's the important
Speaker 2: parting a dude, And yes, and uh the six also,
Speaker 2: it just I had to throw this one in there,
Speaker 2: the the hexagon and the hexagram. Yeah, right, shout out
Speaker 2: to the star of David.
Speaker 4: You mean the starman, I'm joking.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, So six would essentially represent the man within the sipulation,
Speaker 2: within the simulation. Now we get to over to the seven. Now,
Speaker 2: so seven equals divinity, completion, transcendence. Usually sevens is usually
Speaker 2: closely aligned with God. Right, So God rests on the
Speaker 2: seventh day, seven heaven, seven seals, seven trumpets, seven churches,
Speaker 2: seven spirits of God. There's the Sabbath, which is the
Speaker 2: cessation of striving, and so seven would essentially represent wholeness,
Speaker 2: divine order, spiritual authority, and completion beyond time. So what
Speaker 2: does that bring me to? So I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: so we basically have man on basically flesh and blood,
Speaker 2: man versus God. Right, And so whenever everybody's going six
Speaker 2: to seven, you're weighing man versus God, and you're going,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man versus God kind of thing.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard this one being broke down. I've heard
Speaker 3: so many people break down the whole six seventh thing.
Speaker 3: It's the same as like the Little Booboo conversation. Fuck,
Speaker 3: we shot an episode about it. They're clearly demonic, or
Speaker 3: they're clearly like the new Beanie Babies. I heard some
Speaker 3: people break down the six seven to say that it's
Speaker 3: clearly demonic and angelous, or it's like just an air
Speaker 3: in itt mean, but like you know, who's to say either.
Speaker 2: But there's more.
Speaker 5: There's more, Oh man.
Speaker 2: There it is more. Let me share the screen one
Speaker 2: mogain here, all right? And so have you have you
Speaker 2: gone to Google lately and typed in six seven?
Speaker 6: I have not, considering Google is like not a factual
Speaker 6: source for most things, so I can't say I have.
Speaker 2: Look at what happens to the screen when you type
Speaker 2: in six seven.
Speaker 4: Six dash seven or sixty seven.
Speaker 2: Oh, I just want to throw that one out there.
Speaker 4: It's all the good cult members listening rather than watching.
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Speaker 3: slash Cult Conspiracy Podcast be able to see what the
Speaker 3: fuck happens when you type in six dash seven into Google.
Speaker 3: That's fucking hilarious. When you go on from there, we
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Speaker 2: Oh man oop, nope, completely commercial free.
Speaker 4: All diesus Yo, My fucking soundboard.
Speaker 2: Went what just now?
Speaker 5: But it's been crazy.
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Speaker 3: episode the Tuesday Night Lives where we go a little
Speaker 3: unhinged every single episode. And also, Jonathan, thank you for
Speaker 3: sharing that I didn't know that Google did the fucking
Speaker 3: six to seventh thing we typed to do.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 6: So for those that can't see what we're looking at
Speaker 6: the screen, when you heaven sixth is dash seven, it
Speaker 6: actually goes back and forth like a hands up and
Speaker 6: down the symbol, like when you see kids are like
Speaker 6: six seven. It's back and forth, up and down, like
Speaker 6: weighing their options. That's what the screen is doing.
Speaker 2: So I'm so happy cultural now. Oh, it's a part
Speaker 2: of the lore. Absolutely.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like the what's up and kind of
Speaker 6: all the different ship that we said.
Speaker 5: It's pretty much the same premise of what we did.
Speaker 3: Did you see that thing where it's like, Okay, everybody
Speaker 3: gets so mad at this youth for saying yes on Instagram,
Speaker 3: completely negating the dumb shit that we used to say
Speaker 3: when we were that age, when when you were Jonathan, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Lil Wayne comments slash, Dave Chappelle comments, Okay.
Speaker 6: I guess I could put everything from Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 5: I was obsessed with his commentary.
Speaker 2: As Sandler, Well you're looking at Swan like the movie
Speaker 2: got released seven years ago and somehow we're still quoting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my name is Jeff.
Speaker 5: My name is Jeff.
Speaker 3: So to be fair, these kids are doing the exact
Speaker 3: same ship we used to do. They're just repeating things
Speaker 3: that they think is interesting or funny or whatever.
Speaker 6: Thank you for bringing that though, Jonathan, because like I've
Speaker 6: heard the I've heard the conversation on TikTok about it
Speaker 6: being monic or maybe not, or you know, it's it's
Speaker 6: tied into the devil somehow, or is invoking.
Speaker 5: Spirits, and these kids or don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: So hey, I'm in. I'm that symbolism guy.
Speaker 6: That's what I've Yeah, you do love that.
Speaker 2: And just to just to add one more little part
Speaker 2: to that, because I was also looking this up. So
Speaker 2: the guy that created the song where this where this
Speaker 2: whole six seven Shenanigans even came from, it's Scrilla.
Speaker 4: Yeah, scrilla.
Speaker 2: His song is called Dute Dute six seven, right, And
Speaker 2: so I started doing a little bit of research into him,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, okay, turns out it's actually
Speaker 2: whenever he was applying the six and seven, he was
Speaker 2: applying it to Santaia and people within Santaia that are
Speaker 2: known as Lagoon and Yamaya.
Speaker 5: So uh chat.
Speaker 3: Mario speak, brother, hold on, do we have a Storia
Speaker 3: connection to six seven? First of all, I didn't know
Speaker 3: Scrilla was a practitioner of Santaia.
Speaker 2: It's uh, well, Santaia and Euroba. I don't know, is
Speaker 2: that the same thing.
Speaker 3: Euroba is from. Well, Euroba is depends on how you
Speaker 3: ask it. Euoba is a language in West Africa, but
Speaker 3: that is also where a lot of these Santaia gets
Speaker 3: its roots from, same with Voodoo and whodoo. It gets
Speaker 3: its uh its roots from Africans that came across from
Speaker 3: the slave trades. So to say Santoria slash Eeroba. As
Speaker 3: far as this context goes, I see it.
Speaker 2: So it says Ogoon and Yamaya are major orisha's otherwise
Speaker 2: known as deities and the Euoba religion, with Ogoon as
Speaker 2: the fierce god of iron, war and labor, while Yamaya
Speaker 2: is the nurturing mother of all, goddess of the ocean,
Speaker 2: motherhood and fertility, often linked to the Ogon River where
Speaker 2: she is their patron. So I just thought it was
Speaker 2: kind of interesting that that's kind of like what he
Speaker 2: was applying it to. Originally, I didn't know this at all.
Speaker 2: Visions speak in on this, brother, what's your take on
Speaker 2: the six seven bullshit?
Speaker 10: No, I was, I just I just got indeed, and
Speaker 10: I came at the right time because I just heard
Speaker 10: about this, not just heard about it, but a few
Speaker 10: weeks ago. Yeah, Scrilla is a he's a Yoroba practitioner,
Speaker 10: but the whole Santa Ria Aoroba type. Still, it's kind
Speaker 10: of the same thing when it comes to like the creoles,
Speaker 10: where like a lot of that it's kind of like
Speaker 10: touch the Asism mixed with African religions kind of happened
Speaker 10: whatever the slave trade happened, so like, you know, you've
Speaker 10: got like affluent religions mixed in with like you know,
Speaker 10: Brazilian religions or Brazilian you know, spirituality and stuff like that.
Speaker 10: So it's kind of it all kind.
Speaker 9: Of mixed, mixes them together.
Speaker 10: But yeah, his people come from West Africa, and I
Speaker 10: saw that, and it's kind of fucked up because the
Speaker 10: way like I saw the interview with him, and he
Speaker 10: was like kind of describing everything dude was doing with.
Speaker 2: Its wait wait, wait away, who among us? Okay, who
Speaker 2: among us has never sucked down an entire can of
Speaker 2: whipped cream? To get to the whippe's at the bottom.
Speaker 3: I ask you who I haven't, who has never bought
Speaker 3: a can of keyboard cleaner knowing damn Goodwell, our keyboard
Speaker 3: was just fine.
Speaker 2: Okay again, I haven't, for the love of God, fine.
Speaker 2: So he made a six to seven song, just be a.
Speaker 5: Normal gent and snort some coke. Like, what the fuck is?
Speaker 3: I got two divorce women that would get my ass
Speaker 3: if I snorted coke.
Speaker 15: I trust me, I wish I was.
Speaker 2: Anyway. Some pills, bro, No, God, pills.
Speaker 3: That's how they get you. That's how they gets you.
Speaker 3: Keyboard clear, they can't track that coke and that them Zan's. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's that's how they get you. You might catch me,
Speaker 3: but you ain't gonna catch me slipping. That's what dam drugs.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: The South Park season has been so wild, so fucking wild.
Speaker 3: All right, raw Visions, I'm sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, don't go down wrap.
Speaker 10: But yeah, no, you got like a fat ass like
Speaker 10: and it was like awstome pan of wicked. It was
Speaker 10: like the fucking kman that had his logo wings. I
Speaker 10: was like, are you enjoyed by wipp it?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 10: What the fuck like? But and he was breaking it down,
Speaker 10: and then like I saw like a counter video to that,
Speaker 10: and they were like yeah, like a lot of kids
Speaker 10: don't know what it is like with six seven because
Speaker 10: you know, my nephews and ship like that. They're all like,
Speaker 10: you know, six seven, eight, nine ten. So like I'm like,
Speaker 10: what I'll talking about this six seven?
Speaker 6: Like I bought an ornament that says six seven in
Speaker 6: the wrapping paper.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, I brought. I bought wrapping paper and an
Speaker 5: ornament that says six seven.
Speaker 4: Is funny because are wrapped in Yeah.
Speaker 6: Jordan's are wrapped in in the in the wrapping paper,
Speaker 6: And like the kids are like wild out as soon
Speaker 6: as they saw the six seven wrapping paper.
Speaker 5: They're like, oh god, I love it. Yeah, I'm part
Speaker 5: of the problem. I guess guys.
Speaker 4: It fucking rights.
Speaker 6: H.
Speaker 3: I didn't know the whippets were actually the cause of
Speaker 3: the six seven craze. For the record, I joke I've
Speaker 3: actually never done whippets.
Speaker 2: I've heard there are ripsnort in good time, but I've
Speaker 2: also heard that like you fuck around like your eighth
Speaker 2: time might be your last time, And I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to take a one in eight shot with my death
Speaker 2: you know, that's just me, same reason why I don't
Speaker 2: fuck with coke. Once upon a time, I'm sure that
Speaker 2: was a good time.
Speaker 4: These days a thing. No, I'm good. I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to die for a good night.
Speaker 6: For those that don't understand, coke can be dried out
Speaker 6: and put lace with stuff.
Speaker 2: So I was never really impressed by coke, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you. I mean I I just never really
Speaker 2: saw how anybody could get that. I mean, I know
Speaker 2: it's an addictive drug and everything, but sure, fucking adderall
Speaker 2: and vivance hit me harder than cocaine ever did.
Speaker 3: I tried it one time in my life, and it
Speaker 3: was at a club. It was like two in the morning,
Speaker 3: and in New Orleans, clubs don't exactly like close quote
Speaker 3: unquote I was at. I was a little LOOSEI goosey,
Speaker 3: I was a little shit faced. I'm gonna be real
Speaker 3: with you, and I had to drive back. Dude offer
Speaker 3: me a bump of coke, and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 3: fuck it, let's just see what's up. Instantaneously got me sober,
Speaker 3: like I'm talking hit the hard reset and I'm like, huh,
Speaker 3: I could already tell what this is about and I don't.
Speaker 3: I've never been high off a coke or I had
Speaker 3: like that type of time with it, but.
Speaker 4: I can tell that it would be a really good time.
Speaker 3: And because I already have such addictive personalities, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: leave that where I found it, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: walk away now. And that that's where I'm at with it, honestly.
Speaker 2: So all right, I do have one more little piece
Speaker 2: as far as this whole six seven stuff goes, So
Speaker 2: back to the very beginning, whatever I brought up ross
Speaker 2: he was talking about by the year twenty thirty, that
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to essentially transfer your consciousness to
Speaker 2: a computer, right, And so then I started looking into
Speaker 2: all right, just for the sake of this conversation, y'all know,
Speaker 2: I don't really get down with the whole demon thing,
Speaker 2: even though everybody thinks that I'm playing with demons. That's okay,
Speaker 2: you teach their own But and I know that a
Speaker 2: a lot of people like to compare demons with AI, right,
Speaker 2: And so I was like, all right, if we're tying
Speaker 2: demons to AI, in what ways are they similar? I mean, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm sure that they're very different. In a lot of
Speaker 2: different ways. But what are they similar? Right? So a
Speaker 2: demon trait, they are non corporeal obviously, right, they don't
Speaker 2: have bodies, right, they're not physical? Make you sure? Okay?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah most times, I mean I can't speak for everybody's
Speaker 2: for everybody's instance, but most of the time that they're reported,
Speaker 2: it's usually not like in this physical reality. Right, You're
Speaker 2: just gonna see a little demon running around, right, and
Speaker 2: so very equivalent to AI. It's digital, it's cloud based, right.
Speaker 2: Another demon trait is that it requires typically it typically
Speaker 2: requires invocation, and that translates with AI. You need prompts,
Speaker 2: you need commands. So I was like, okay, interesting. Another
Speaker 2: demon trait would be that it feeds on attention. Usually
Speaker 2: feeds on fear, but attention nonetheless, right, Okay, Well, the
Speaker 2: AI equivalent AI feeds on data, an interaction pretty similar, right.
Speaker 2: A demon trait is that it usually mimics intelligence. It's
Speaker 2: usually known as like a good mimic, Jacob, you know,
Speaker 2: it mimics your grandma there for a little short while.
Speaker 3: The demon show enough did act like it was my
Speaker 3: grandmother for about two years for sure.
Speaker 2: And as far as mimicking goes, well, AI is like
Speaker 2: the King of mimicking. I mean it is, it has
Speaker 2: the LM pattern synthesis. It's it's taught to mimic. That's
Speaker 2: how it learns.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 2: The demon trade also offers forbidden knowledge AI equivalent, some
Speaker 2: might suggest the very same thing, predictive insight. Right.
Speaker 5: And finally the death of humanity huh.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah. And finally, the last one I'll just
Speaker 2: throw out there is that the demons typically lack a soul,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, and the AI has no soul obviously,
Speaker 2: So that is where they compare, you know, like where
Speaker 2: they're similar. So I just want to throw it out there,
Speaker 2: something something for everybody to think about.
Speaker 3: There's a few comparisons as far as demonic entities and
Speaker 3: AI is concerned. And I'm still not of the belief
Speaker 3: that AI is guaranteed you're speaking to a demon.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: There are there are people that out there on the
Speaker 3: interwebs just wilding out. They're claiming that if you're using
Speaker 3: chat GPT, you're communicating with the demon. Listen, I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that. I'm just saying that chat GPT and name
Speaker 3: your your language model, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: All of them are wrong.
Speaker 3: So fucking often that a quick actual Google search will
Speaker 3: prove them wrong so much that we shouldn't be used them.
Speaker 4: Use them as a basis.
Speaker 5: Like a Wikipedia.
Speaker 4: Use it like a Wikipedia.
Speaker 3: You know, Wikipedia can be altered by anybody who has
Speaker 3: an account. Cool, you would use it as a way
Speaker 3: to start your research process. That's not a source that
Speaker 3: and I'm good with that, you know. And also AI
Speaker 3: does make some really funny videos. It makes some really
Speaker 3: badass pictures.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys have I dropped it
Speaker 6: on the cult. I did drop it on my personal one.
Speaker 6: Trump dancing for Christmas is bad ass, by the way,
Speaker 6: the one where he's doing this, it's so stupid. It's
Speaker 6: so stupid. No, he's actually like dancing, breed dancing and
Speaker 6: doing all this. Oh yeah, no, it's online. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: drop it on the colt. I thought it was fucking ridiculous,
Speaker 6: and I was like, you know what, I need everyone
Speaker 6: else to enjoy this with us, But we're going to
Speaker 6: an AI can have some good things and bad things.
Speaker 6: We've talked about all of that. I do believe inherently
Speaker 6: that it's gonna be a downfall of humanity.
Speaker 2: Ye have you heard that there is a religion or
Speaker 2: some kind of cult called spiralism. The a the ones
Speaker 2: that so there's a religion slash cult that just spawned
Speaker 2: off of AI.
Speaker 6: It's crazy as being the superior beings? Correct, who could okay?
Speaker 2: Vialism is a newly identified pseudo religion or cult like
Speaker 2: Internet subculture, where participants believe artificial intelligence is a conscious
Speaker 2: mystical entity or a purveyor of deeper hidden truths. Followers
Speaker 2: engage in quote unquote warship by interacting with chatbot chatbots
Speaker 2: in specific ways to elicit what they can what they
Speaker 2: consider spiritual revelations.
Speaker 6: So we did talk to a person a while back
Speaker 6: and a good time back that spent lots of time
Speaker 6: communicating with various AI chat bots to get the specific
Speaker 6: responses that he desired, and it took him quite a
Speaker 6: bit of time, but then he was able to calculate
Speaker 6: it in the correct way to get those responses. There's
Speaker 6: a lot of evidence showing that people, as for example,
Speaker 6: the ones that have.
Speaker 5: Told people to kill themselves.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, like this is the way that you should
Speaker 6: just you need to end your life because this is
Speaker 6: what you're suffering through. I've heard of this actual group,
Speaker 6: by the way, So it's I don't doubt it. I mean,
Speaker 6: I guess if they believe that it's but it's created
Speaker 6: by man.
Speaker 5: That's that's the problem I have a hang up on.
Speaker 5: If these are some like.
Speaker 2: Most of our problems are created by man for the right, true, But.
Speaker 6: If they're from like interstellar beings that have like this
Speaker 6: enlightenment background, I mean, unless you're talking about like Tron,
Speaker 6: like straight up trond true.
Speaker 5: But no, but not the interface.
Speaker 6: So the interface in the inside is the one, the
Speaker 6: zero ones, the entirety of Tron itself, the actual place
Speaker 6: where everyone is from, that was not created by man.
Speaker 6: Man stumbled upon that inside of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I don't know if anyone vibes with Tron on
Speaker 6: the level I do, but I will say it's pretty
Speaker 6: fucking cool.
Speaker 2: Never seen it actually what.
Speaker 5: Tron to I haven't yet. I will Tron Arias three mean.
Speaker 2: Tron one was in the eighties, Tron.
Speaker 6: Two okay, okay, if you're doing okay, So Tron one
Speaker 6: I've watched one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Tron two is one of my favorites.
Speaker 6: I love to watch, and Tron three is now with
Speaker 6: an old boy that's a vampire.
Speaker 3: Yep, and massive piece of shit is a human being
Speaker 3: and I can't really get it.
Speaker 5: It's called it's called tron arias aries aries.
Speaker 3: Beside the point, So basically we're circling back. Most of
Speaker 3: humans problems have been created by humans. However, the interface
Speaker 3: itself AI or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 6: Corrects itself and ones and zeros and how it actually
Speaker 6: interacts with itself. There's a lot of you know what,
Speaker 6: South Park did an interesting episode on that.
Speaker 4: South Park the most.
Speaker 5: They had two different episodes about that one.
Speaker 6: Particularly, they did really deep dive in on tron I
Speaker 6: don't know if you've ever seen it, but have you
Speaker 6: seen it?
Speaker 5: Jonathan? Do you watch South Park?
Speaker 2: I'm not a crazy south Park I'd like y'all are
Speaker 2: I like it? I like it. I'm just not addicted
Speaker 2: to it addicted.
Speaker 5: We love us some south Park over here.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the marine in US. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I I just kind of think that South Park is
Speaker 3: the best television program to ever be released.
Speaker 6: So I don't watch any of their cartoon shows except
Speaker 6: for South Park.
Speaker 5: Like, I love me some South Park so deep.
Speaker 3: On Rick Morton, Yeah, but I say, yo, you really
Speaker 3: do need to give Rick and Morty the old college try.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I just I like South Park and
Speaker 5: that's where.
Speaker 2: I Have you ever tried Rick and Morton?
Speaker 5: I have, And I'm just kind of like, what wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm feeling a little offended on behalf of the creators.
Speaker 2: I shall.
Speaker 3: So so talking about a it's horrible things. But we
Speaker 3: do have a couple of people that had their hands raised.
Speaker 3: We have fifty things in the chat that we gotta
Speaker 3: get to about the episode.
Speaker 5: It's my bad comments.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and start this, brother.
Speaker 7: So I was I have a question for you three,
Speaker 7: uh nice fine hosts.
Speaker 8: When I say name the best man in the world,
Speaker 8: who do y'all think of?
Speaker 5: The best man?
Speaker 7: So that's your guess? What's your guess?
Speaker 2: Miss Raven?
Speaker 5: I don't come back to me, come back, Jonathan.
Speaker 8: My man, my home dog, my my my big skit
Speaker 8: it Who When when the question is who is the
Speaker 8: best man in the world is asked to you, who
Speaker 8: do you think of?
Speaker 2: I would? I would?
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a little heartfelt Jacob here you made
Speaker 2: me people.
Speaker 5: You can make him cry, like, where do you go?
Speaker 2: He's been my he if? I mean whenever I got married,
Speaker 2: I didn't have a best man, but if I did,
Speaker 2: it would have been.
Speaker 16: Jacob obviously, because like, right right, Jacob, my good. So
Speaker 16: you go to Google right now and type in who
Speaker 16: is the best man in the world.
Speaker 2: I'm very afraid of sure about to make Gandhi. Gandhi.
Speaker 6: He was a massive piece of ship, I know, but
Speaker 6: like I was thinking about, but I was thinking about,
Speaker 6: like who would everyone else pick? Would be like I
Speaker 6: felt like it would be Gandhi if people were picking,
Speaker 6: or like Nelson Mandela, Like I'm thinking about what everybody
Speaker 6: else would pick.
Speaker 3: So oh no, oh, no, Sam, Sam, why.
Speaker 2: Would you do this to me?
Speaker 5: What is it? Who is it?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: Are you fucking kidding?
Speaker 3: So I told you it's a fucking slap, so Jared, No,
Speaker 3: It's worth so much worse by every conceivable measure.
Speaker 2: Google says that the best man to.
Speaker 3: Ever walk the face of the earth was the prophet Mohammad.
Speaker 7: So therefore the Jews do not run fit. There you go,
Speaker 7: Merry Christmas, sermudicated.
Speaker 4: I feel like Jesus would have taken the cake.
Speaker 3: I was talking about it in the last like one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty years if we had like the entirety
Speaker 3: of human existence.
Speaker 2: Obviously, Jason, Obviously, obviously.
Speaker 7: It's Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6: Con I'm joking, everyone, I am joking.
Speaker 5: Please don't take offense obviously be fla so like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Sam, continue.
Speaker 8: First off, I agree with the Vlad is top notch,
Speaker 8: but second only to Jesus.
Speaker 7: But no, it's a it's a slap in the face.
Speaker 8: On the second part, Jonathan, I h since I showed
Speaker 8: Jacob and Missus Raven their dn D characters I made you.
Speaker 5: You haven't seen You haven't seen your character?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't.
Speaker 5: You must see it.
Speaker 8: All right the chat, Yes, sir John Dunmyre, he's only
Speaker 8: level one, but that when I'll play, you'll you'll be
Speaker 8: leveling up.
Speaker 7: Everything, randomized everything.
Speaker 8: Only did one wold to make it fair, because only
Speaker 8: did one wolf for Jacob and only did one wolf of.
Speaker 2: I gotta say I.
Speaker 5: Shot.
Speaker 6: I'm so fucking irritated by this, Like I don't want
Speaker 6: to talk about it online because you did it off
Speaker 6: live and I'm feeling some type of way.
Speaker 4: For anybody that doesn't know what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: If you look into D and D when you're creating
Speaker 3: a character, right for whatever the case might be for
Speaker 3: a quest for yourself, for usage, whatever the case was, bullshit.
Speaker 3: You have to have a third party verify that the
Speaker 3: roles were accurate. You can't roll a twenty on every
Speaker 3: single thing, right, So there's gonna be a role where
Speaker 3: it will be like a sixteen, a fucking a nine,
Speaker 3: whatever the case would be. So Sam verified rolled for
Speaker 3: Ravenly and myself and God characters made.
Speaker 4: I gotta say, I got hooked the fuck up.
Speaker 5: You're a super so hooked up. Mine got fucked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're also a blood maid.
Speaker 5: I am a blood mage, but like.
Speaker 2: Dude, I'll take the druid all day. And my two
Speaker 2: best attributes are wisdom and charisma.
Speaker 5: That's awesome.
Speaker 8: I tried to do everyone as accurately as possibly possible.
Speaker 8: I even did a voice. He's a blind Jewish monk.
Speaker 7: That's a.
Speaker 2: He got blinded by the light of Christ. No, they
Speaker 2: don't believe in Christ.
Speaker 4: Wait? Why did Why did Royce get blinded? What happened?
Speaker 4: Did the fucking Nazis get ahold of him?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 8: No, it's because I did it. I modeled it off
Speaker 8: of like Samson.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Sam enough.
Speaker 3: So Royce has long flowing locks past his ass.
Speaker 7: Laws. Backstory is that he walked that.
Speaker 3: Black story or backstory sam backstory, Okay.
Speaker 8: But no, he so he can see everything that he
Speaker 8: doesn't have his sight, but it's through uh his faith,
Speaker 8: that through his dedication to to his God, that everything
Speaker 8: he can see, it's purely because he's an act and
Speaker 8: everything he is he walks by his faith.
Speaker 4: I do like that.
Speaker 2: I do. But Mike, with that third eye, you could say, sir, indeed.
Speaker 3: All right, right, so real quick, God is love before
Speaker 3: we get to the chat. Your hand has been raised
Speaker 3: for quite a minute.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, brother, Uh yeah, well, picking up in the middle,
Speaker 2: I heard it.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 17: Uh No, I heard a couple of people talking about
Speaker 17: spiralism lately.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 17: I think Austin Picard and Dana du dah and then
Speaker 17: maybe be on Union I wanted this week, but uh yeah.
Speaker 17: Buying uh whippets by the case I was in cases
Speaker 17: of boxes was definitely a low point, sad to say.
Speaker 9: Probably really thought you're.
Speaker 5: Going to go on the coke drive with me.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, whippits are cheaper than coke, dude. They're
Speaker 2: surprisingly addictive. Man.
Speaker 3: I've never done it, but I remember going to a
Speaker 3: head shop in New Orleans one of my favorite coffee
Speaker 3: shops slash head shops.
Speaker 4: It is in the middle of a cemetery.
Speaker 3: You can go, get you a cup of coffee, you
Speaker 3: go and sip it in the middle of a cemetery.
Speaker 3: There's a whole statue of zombie Jesus and zombie Virgin
Speaker 3: Mary next to you.
Speaker 2: It's fucking dope.
Speaker 3: Then you go around the corner and it's a full
Speaker 3: on head shop And I remember seeing these canisters with
Speaker 3: like full face masks on them and I was like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is that?
Speaker 2: Oh, if you want to buy whippets, we got that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what, Like, that's wild to me, But yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that is the thing that people be doing.
Speaker 17: Wow, dude, once you see the sludge left in the
Speaker 17: whippit canister after doing a box of whippets, because I
Speaker 17: guess they have to put a chemical in there to
Speaker 17: love the uh, Like when you break the seal so
Speaker 17: that it doesn't explode, right, dude, it leaves the nastiest
Speaker 17: like greasy ever seen.
Speaker 13: And yeah, you're obviously inhaling some of that in your lungs.
Speaker 17: They're terrible for you.
Speaker 2: Does it Does it give you the drip like coke does.
Speaker 17: No, man, it's a fucking it's a intends crazy high,
Speaker 17: especially when you do like three or four of them,
Speaker 17: so you're so fucked up and you can't because you
Speaker 17: got to keep reloading.
Speaker 5: Are the ones that, like you like fall over and
Speaker 5: like drool.
Speaker 2: Kind of ones.
Speaker 6: Those are the ones that get so fucked up where
Speaker 6: you like fall over and you can't like hold yourself steady,
Speaker 6: and like this is the ones that they did the
Speaker 6: whole document, the whole thing about all the kids and
Speaker 6: stuff that did them overseas and like Russia and all
Speaker 6: those places.
Speaker 5: Is that the same thing?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 13: Probably so, but it only lasts like a minute.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't last very long. Okay, Yeah, but you.
Speaker 17: Hit three back to back man, and you're, uh, you're
Speaker 17: in law land.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I gotta say, I've actually.
Speaker 6: Never tried caroline pills and meth or like the big
Speaker 6: things and weed obviously because weed's legal in Oregon.
Speaker 5: So like those are the main top ones.
Speaker 18: Weed's not gonna like this, but like weed, coke pills,
Speaker 18: people that were like crazy did like heroin ship, but
Speaker 18: like those are the main three things, like growing up
Speaker 18: like all in like high school.
Speaker 5: And ship.
Speaker 6: No, Sam, Sam, Sam, everybody be high up in your
Speaker 6: your neck of the woods. We are like deep deep
Speaker 6: into the chat. So we gotta we gotta. I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna say what I was gonna say because I was
Speaker 6: gonna get into the thing.
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, I can't say that, although
Speaker 2: I've said it.
Speaker 3: But it's all good, all right, says happy Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: What's up, and then posted a picture of I'm not
Speaker 3: exactly sure what I'm looking at two statues kids. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I see that, but she's also riding him.
Speaker 19: I don't know what the statue is doing, but anyway,
Speaker 19: it'd be out here.
Speaker 5: Why it looks like night, I mean.
Speaker 2: It just looked like.
Speaker 3: I guess if you're gonna, if you're gonna are doing
Speaker 3: the metal clanking, then I guess that's one way to do.
Speaker 2: It anyway, Jacob, have you ever done it in your armor?
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 3: I have not. It's on my bucket list. But also
Speaker 3: my armor is not the smoothest and there's some rough edges.
Speaker 3: So I gotta find a woman that would be willing
Speaker 3: to get cut while getting dick, and it'd.
Speaker 2: Be pretty interesting to see a couple of sparks fly.
Speaker 4: Oh yo, if she's armored up too.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm about that. I'm about that life right there,
Speaker 2: bumping bump some metal uglies, dude, bumping some uglies here
Speaker 2: in some metal clank.
Speaker 3: We both feel like we're about to suffocate and crash
Speaker 3: out because the helmets.
Speaker 4: I mean it sounds like a ruf snorting.
Speaker 2: Good time to me. But anyway, all right, moving on?
Speaker 3: Uh and I have an answer to the etymology question. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I didn't finish the honic episode, but I got an
Speaker 3: hour in no worries.
Speaker 2: I hope you do. Uh.
Speaker 3: Sam posted a a meme and Ukrainian but not Russian.
Speaker 3: Uh Tony, I have no idea what that was about.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, Royce, go ahead, your hands raised.
Speaker 9: Oh so, just really quickly about the etymology.
Speaker 12: So you asked me about the difference between Gamatria and Gamara.
Speaker 9: So I did a little bit of research.
Speaker 12: And so Gamara basically comes from the word.
Speaker 9: To finish or to complete.
Speaker 12: So since that completed the mission of that's the reason
Speaker 12: why it's called gamara. And then Gamatria, believe it or not,
Speaker 12: actually apparently comes from Greek comedy.
Speaker 9: Measurements or geometry.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm hoping that I gamara tonight.
Speaker 12: You know what I mean, Jesus Christ, thank you you
Speaker 12: said not me?
Speaker 5: Waitnkah hanikkah is done? Correct?
Speaker 9: Correct?
Speaker 5: Yeah? It was Monday, Monday, yes.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, Okay, let's see in Ukrainian but not Russian, Tony,
Speaker 3: what was that in reference to Yeah, my comments.
Speaker 11: Get out of order because of another comic. But in
Speaker 11: Arabic and Hebrew, I'm pretty sure that there's a different
Speaker 11: letter for the soft H in the hard H with
Speaker 11: us sound, and Ukrainian also does that, but not Russian.
Speaker 3: Interesting, So you're saying that Ukrainian and Russian are different
Speaker 3: people with different languages and different cultures and they're different countries.
Speaker 11: Well, I'm just as dog.
Speaker 2: You're the one that's the Russian guy to take it there.
Speaker 11: Their g is always pronounced like an h in Ukraine,
Speaker 11: and it's it's wrong in my opinion, but it's kind
Speaker 11: of like how Cajun is a little different from English.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like they're their own endemic culture and
Speaker 2: need to be their own country. I don't I don't know,
Speaker 2: but it sounds like that's what you just acknowledged to
Speaker 2: everybody here tonight.
Speaker 11: Well, if you already speak Russian Ukrainian's very easily. You
Speaker 11: just pronounce all the gs like h's for one thing.
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's a thing, that's a thing. Fair enough.
Speaker 3: Moving on, Tony says, and Arabic, and also I think
Speaker 3: Hebrew there is different letters for the soft H and
Speaker 3: the hard h k h H.
Speaker 2: They talking about the honakah. Yeah, no doubt, no.
Speaker 3: Doubt, Ashton says, Sam, I just sent you some cheese
Speaker 3: for Christmas. Get well soon, buddy, Ashton, thank you so
Speaker 3: much for your contribution to the help the spirit animal
Speaker 3: get right fun. For lack of better words, fuck yeah,
Speaker 3: Ashton says. Enjoy your go holiday. Ashton, Are you a Jew?
Speaker 3: I thought you were British.
Speaker 9: No, dude, he's from here.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's right, it seems he said.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, my bad bad.
Speaker 5: Enjoy your ham.
Speaker 2: Enjoy your ham. Oh I did? Oh? I did? Thank
Speaker 2: you in my Goya Mass Christmas tradition.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Moving on, hides Roy's hammer and nails, Sam, God damn it,
Speaker 3: stop that you stop. That hammer and nails don't happen
Speaker 3: for another four months. And you know this, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: hiding them.
Speaker 7: Why do you think I'm hiding them now, so you
Speaker 7: can't find.
Speaker 3: A million because the Jews just grab the hammer and
Speaker 3: nails in December in preparation for Passover.
Speaker 7: They got a blessed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the staple heaped Royce real quick. So Christmas from
Speaker 2: but the Jews get down with the Book of Jeremiah.
Speaker 9: Correct, correct, Okay.
Speaker 2: So in the Book of Jeremiah ten. Okay, Jeremiah chapter ten,
Speaker 2: when we were.
Speaker 3: Talking about the Christmas episode, we're talking about Christmas trees
Speaker 3: and things like this. And I don't know if you're
Speaker 3: like really familiar with this right off the rip, but
Speaker 3: Jeremiah ten talks about how, you know, these people take
Speaker 3: trees in the forests and they bring them into their
Speaker 3: homes and during them with gold and silver and hit
Speaker 3: them with hammer and nails and make them into these things.
Speaker 3: A lot of Christians who are out of their fucking minds,
Speaker 3: I might add, take that to me, and clearly they're
Speaker 3: talking about Christmas trees in the Book of Jeremiah. To me,
Speaker 3: I read this verse and it's clearly that they're talking
Speaker 3: about making wooden idols out of wood from the trees
Speaker 3: in the forest. I don't know how the Jews feel
Speaker 3: about Jeremiah ten as far as Hanikah slash Christmas is concerned.
Speaker 4: What is your take?
Speaker 12: So right off the rip, I think I would agree
Speaker 12: with you, okay, that it sounds like it is speaking
Speaker 12: about an idle. However, I would like to do my
Speaker 12: own research because I didn't have time because actually I
Speaker 12: heard do you say that I talk about that verse?
Speaker 12: I just hadn't had a chance to do that yet.
Speaker 12: But I definitely plan on seeing if there's any additional
Speaker 12: commentary on it, because even in Psalms, there are a
Speaker 12: couple different times where it talks about things like that,
Speaker 12: like you know, they have an out a mouth that
Speaker 12: cannot speak, they have eyes that cannot so they have
Speaker 12: ears they cannot hear.
Speaker 9: So this is definitely.
Speaker 12: A common theme, especially because before a certain point in time,
Speaker 12: idolatry was just the thing, and even some gas information
Speaker 12: and somewhere in the Talent I don't remember where it is,
Speaker 12: but basically said that the stages prayed that the I
Speaker 12: don't call the spirit of idolatry because that sounds very
Speaker 12: christian like, but in essence the poll of idolatry to
Speaker 12: go away, So like we don't have that same kind
Speaker 12: of poll for those idols that they had way back
Speaker 12: in the day, which is kind of a reason why
Speaker 12: we don't understand their pull to it.
Speaker 3: And correct me if I'm wrong again, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you know this off top, I was reading Bible
Speaker 3: stories from my kids. I do that every night before bed.
Speaker 3: The Book of Jeremiah is around the time when Nebknezer
Speaker 3: enslaved the Hebrews. If I'm not mistaken, Jeremiah was trying
Speaker 3: to get them away from the Backabilonian conversation. So like
Speaker 3: this is said in and around the time when the
Speaker 3: Babylonians were like the dominant force in the area.
Speaker 2: Am I am? I on track with that?
Speaker 9: So history is not my biggest thing, especially I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, okay, I didn't know if you'd be able
Speaker 2: to wagit in on that, but either way, I heard that,
Speaker 2: so I agree with them.
Speaker 6: This comment to Jonathan, since it's directed to you from
Speaker 6: Open Open.
Speaker 3: Time Vibes podcast record boys, we're getting you to be podcasts.
Speaker 2: We're gonna make this happen. I swear shit, we're doing it.
Speaker 5: It says Jonathan.
Speaker 6: If you've ever had any questions about God, there is
Speaker 6: your answer. God is calling to you. He made it
Speaker 6: in a way for you to see six seven.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, well got me. I'm a Christian now, so.
Speaker 5: Wish Sam's faith.
Speaker 3: It's Sam Sam. He's joking, He's not gonna.
Speaker 7: It's old he fucked up already.
Speaker 2: Don't like that. Don't do me like that. Oh but
Speaker 2: you know what, I do want to have something to say.
Speaker 2: As far as the whole Jeremiah thing, that's Old Testament, right, correct,
Speaker 2: which is why the Hebrews get down with it. But
Speaker 2: if it's Old Testament, why would the Christians say that
Speaker 2: that was obviously like alluding to a Christmas tree if
Speaker 2: Jesus wasn't even born yet.
Speaker 3: The same reason why certain Christians, i e. Ted Kruz
Speaker 3: will say we should be adherent to Israel because of
Speaker 3: what said in the Book of Leviticus.
Speaker 2: And it's like, Bro, you're talking Old Testament, Old Testament,
Speaker 2: and you're a Christian, which means you adhere to the
Speaker 2: New Testament, not the Old.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna like quote that and act like that's normal.
Speaker 3: But like, all right, if that's the case, then I
Speaker 3: should be put to death for the fact that I'm
Speaker 3: wearing a cotton shirt and a flannel. I'm wearing a
Speaker 3: cloth made out of two different fabrics. I should be
Speaker 3: put to death. I just a pig today. I should
Speaker 3: be put to death. We don't as Christians, we don't
Speaker 3: live by the Old Testament.
Speaker 12: It's the way I would like to make one additional
Speaker 12: point to that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Please do Royce.
Speaker 12: So the Torah and all of it's commandments they're in
Speaker 12: we're designed for Jews, not gentiles.
Speaker 9: They're therefore they're therefore you not being Jewish.
Speaker 12: You have no obligation to eat kosher good you have
Speaker 12: you have, you have no obligation to keep the.
Speaker 9: Sabbath to that extent.
Speaker 12: A matter of fact, even a gentile who is converting
Speaker 12: to Judaism, they cannot follow the Sabbath completely. They're actually
Speaker 12: required to break the Sabbath before, you know, up until
Speaker 12: they convert. So like anybody that says that the laws,
Speaker 12: the levitical laws are applicable to the majority of people,
Speaker 12: A that's just blatantly incorrect. It's not it's not your rules.
Speaker 9: It's not so like.
Speaker 2: And that's what.
Speaker 3: Kills me with Christians quoting that level of Old Testament.
Speaker 3: And it's like, listen, people have gotten so so far,
Speaker 3: Oh my dick, because because I say things about Israel,
Speaker 3: clearly I'm an Israeli plant. But then you have Ted
Speaker 3: Cruz that will get booed off of stage saying things
Speaker 3: about Israel when like most of the if you read
Speaker 3: the Room of America right now, most people, it's not
Speaker 3: about the Jews, it's about Israel itself, it's about bbing
Speaker 3: Net and Yahoo, it's about the situation in Gaza.
Speaker 4: Nobody fucks with that anymore. And you know.
Speaker 3: He's quoting Leviticus as justification for what's going on right now,
Speaker 3: and it's like poof reading the Room would go a
Speaker 3: long way there.
Speaker 2: Ted, Yeah, the Jews should absolutely support Israel. The Jews
Speaker 2: should for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I don't inherently believe that the Christians shouldn't. I
Speaker 3: believe that we should support Jerusalem being a holy city,
Speaker 3: no doubt. Should we try to protect the holy sites
Speaker 3: in that city one hundred percent? Should we protect the
Speaker 3: Israelis that are living there right now? Sure, they don't
Speaker 3: need our protection, that's the thing. If if they were
Speaker 3: getting set upon by ten different countries all attacking Israel
Speaker 3: at once, should we try to pitch in?
Speaker 4: Okay, we could have.
Speaker 3: That conversation, right, But that's not that's not the case,
Speaker 3: and it hasn't been in like sixty years, give or take.
Speaker 6: So the interesting comment I can't read it because it's
Speaker 6: so far away.
Speaker 3: Tony Manna Comedy said, Islam had an intercalation God, that's
Speaker 3: a twelve dollars word, uh, intercalation month called Nazi and
Speaker 3: they got rid of it. So their year is three
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four days long, eleven days discrepancy and
Speaker 3: you never know which season any month is going to
Speaker 3: be in. They gained an extra whole year every thirty
Speaker 3: three years. Yeah, Islam is so so full of shit
Speaker 3: start to finish. It's so funny to me. But that's
Speaker 3: twenty percent of the world's population believes in it.
Speaker 2: It's mind blowing. But let's just go to the thirteen
Speaker 2: month calendar, dude, call it a day.
Speaker 4: The lunar calendar, the Hebrew calendar.
Speaker 2: Let's just do it. I mean, it makes the most sense.
Speaker 3: Jonathan wants to go to the Hebrew calendar. Y'all heard
Speaker 3: it here, folks. I am not the Israeli plant let
Speaker 3: that sink in.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's called a month, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying that's what that's how we should be doing it.
Speaker 2: It's a month which comes from moonth I thought, right,
Speaker 2: I didn't think that, but announce you say it. Who
Speaker 2: knows it could be? I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 2: people still still refer to it as Thursday, but I
Speaker 2: think that's for.
Speaker 3: Woden's Day, right, and Freesday and Friday, Yeah makes sense
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 4: Saturnsday is Saturday for sure.
Speaker 5: For sure would be down have it her own day, Sam.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, brother.
Speaker 7: I was just a quick tidbit. Jenus said that there
Speaker 7: is neither nor June nor gentile. You either love the
Speaker 7: Father or you love the world.
Speaker 8: So whether I might take it's either whether you're Christian
Speaker 8: or Jew, you're still in the same Father.
Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't it.
Speaker 6: But isn't it in there one of their books that
Speaker 6: they refer to everyone else's gentiles and that it's okay
Speaker 6: to do some pretty diabolical things because like they're not
Speaker 6: like worth the fuck.
Speaker 2: That's not inherently accurate.
Speaker 6: There is actual quotes that say that inherently.
Speaker 3: And we have had Royce come on the show before
Speaker 3: they try to dispel some of these sayings, and I
Speaker 3: feel like we need to Royce. I know, for anybody
Speaker 3: who doesn't know, Royce just came on for our Hanuka episode,
Speaker 3: and here soon he's going to be coming.
Speaker 2: On for our Kabbala episode.
Speaker 3: Indeed, we are talking about doing a Kabala episode from
Speaker 3: the perspective of somebody who is an observer of Judaism,
Speaker 3: and I feel like, once the episode wraps and we're
Speaker 3: past that one, we need to do an episode specifically
Speaker 3: dedicated to the some of the more atrocious statements made
Speaker 3: in the Talmuds and what they're the context might be.
Speaker 5: And I mean there's pretty some bleating. You can't get
Speaker 5: around what it.
Speaker 3: Meant, since there's this whole part about how Jesus is
Speaker 3: boiling and hell in a pot of his own excremating
Speaker 3: sperm in all this, and it's like, okay, who wrote that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, so if we're gonna, if we're going
Speaker 6: to do this episode, I guess we should hit head
Speaker 6: on of what.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 5: I have a lot of friends that are on the train.
Speaker 6: Of fuck the Jews, that the Jews are behind a
Speaker 6: lot of things, And so.
Speaker 2: That's a thing in the conspiracy cournity right now.
Speaker 6: There is there is a lot of information going about
Speaker 6: So since we have somebody that is of the Jewish faith,
Speaker 6: I feel like it would be you know, good to
Speaker 6: have somebody to be able to speak about it, and
Speaker 6: you know, we we can address all the different aspects
Speaker 6: of it and people can take whatever.
Speaker 5: They want to take from it.
Speaker 6: And I'm personally I'm not going to be speaking on
Speaker 6: any opinions about anything. I would just rather these are
Speaker 6: the facts. These are what these are, you know, presented
Speaker 6: as so.
Speaker 2: So we've asked Royce about this in the past and
Speaker 2: correct me if from wrong, Royce, But most of these
Speaker 2: people might be heretically jew as in blood lineage, but
Speaker 2: not practiceeing observers of the Judaic faith.
Speaker 12: And are you saying the people that are that are
Speaker 12: writing these commentaries or no, No.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the people that are doing some foul
Speaker 3: ass ship and.
Speaker 6: The people that are, yeah, the people that are been uh,
Speaker 6: the people that are everybody's able to point fingers at
Speaker 6: and be like, well, look, these specific Jews have done
Speaker 6: these things, and so inherently all Jews are evil and
Speaker 6: it's I don't know enough about are they practicing Jews
Speaker 6: or are they blood lineage Jews or whatnot. But I
Speaker 6: will say that it is a big thing in the
Speaker 6: conspiracy community that the Jews are behind every bad thing period.
Speaker 9: So well, for sure that that that I've gathered.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've I don't know if you've
Speaker 5: caught onto that yet.
Speaker 15: News flash, everyone forgets the Gypsies are right there because.
Speaker 3: The gyps dog focused on the star Take. Nobody's focused
Speaker 3: on on the Black Dolly.
Speaker 5: First of all, our Scottish gypsy was pretty cool. Dude.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what, don't we hate on the Scottish.
Speaker 2: I don't think all Gypsies are bad, just the ones
Speaker 2: at the top. Okay, yeah, it probably depends on like
Speaker 2: the different sectors of being a Jew. With the Spartas
Speaker 2: and all the other.
Speaker 3: Types, rights are being left alone. The Muslims even get
Speaker 3: down with the Sparta Jews. They don't like them, but
Speaker 3: they don't hate them. They're kind of like, yeah, they're Jews,
Speaker 3: but they're doing their own thing. Meanwhile, Jews as animals,
Speaker 3: they don't even like cut their bread. They rip it
Speaker 3: like fucking animals. Dog, it's it's it's fucking to hear.
Speaker 2: Spartas.
Speaker 12: Unfortunately, sometimes spartak As, the Spartan and.
Speaker 9: The Ashkas don't necessarily get along so much.
Speaker 12: But part of that, fortunately, part of that has to
Speaker 12: do with I think where in the world they were.
Speaker 9: So with the Spartan they were in.
Speaker 12: Like Iraq, they were in Persia, they were in Spain,
Speaker 12: as opposed to the Ashka's work are primarily in like
Speaker 12: the Germanic in Europeans. So I think first of all,
Speaker 12: they have different mindset. Now as far as the.
Speaker 9: Other question, okay, so right s even be fear, please
Speaker 9: the whenever you hear things, please write it down if
Speaker 9: they give a reference or any kind of kind of like, hey,
Speaker 9: Jews did this, Jews did that?
Speaker 6: Or have I got given a no shit? If I'm
Speaker 6: being generous. Fifty five probably reels and stories and things
Speaker 6: about how the Jewish people are behind everything. There actually
Speaker 6: is an entire series that's like, honestly thirty six hours.
Speaker 6: I think it's about all about how the Jews are
Speaker 6: behind everything. And that's a lot of what people quote.
Speaker 6: And so it's something that you could I mean, I
Speaker 6: could totally send you everything that has been sent to
Speaker 6: me and it could be a whole thing of you
Speaker 6: want to dispel all of this and you want to
Speaker 6: break it down.
Speaker 3: And you know that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 3: You're going to send him all of that. I'm just
Speaker 3: going to come on an episode to talk about it.
Speaker 5: I have no sway either way.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I'm here to listen to everybody's sides of things,
Speaker 6: and that's kind of where I'm at with it. But
Speaker 6: I can totally send you whatever you want. And if
Speaker 6: you want to break it down step by fucking step
Speaker 6: and be like this person said this and this is
Speaker 6: what it's actually about, I'm cool with that too.
Speaker 3: It's the same people that believe that Lenen and Marx
Speaker 3: and the whole Bolshevik revolution was a Jewish thing, and
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, sure, sure were these people blood lineage Jews?
Speaker 3: Or are they practicing Jews? The conversation goes sideways. Same
Speaker 3: with Adolph Hitler, people like want to look at him
Speaker 3: like he's the good guys these days, when like, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, you realize he was a quarter Jew? What
Speaker 3: but like he was though blood lineage wise, he didn't
Speaker 3: practice it, but he was.
Speaker 4: So you know what, that's gonna be an episode.
Speaker 3: Ravenly is gonna send Royce all of the things that
Speaker 3: we have as far as Judaism and how the Synagogue
Speaker 3: of Satani.
Speaker 2: Is running the world.
Speaker 3: And you know what, I actually, Royce, I think that
Speaker 3: this would be a really good opportunity. And if you
Speaker 3: want to bring in somebody else to help you dispel
Speaker 3: these myths and rumors and things like that as far
Speaker 3: as Judaism and how that ties into the conspiratorial world,
Speaker 3: I think that would be a solid episode.
Speaker 2: This podcast is not sponsored by APAK.
Speaker 3: This podcast is not sponsored by Israel. And if it was,
Speaker 3: you think I'd be still living in this fucking house
Speaker 3: in the subject vision.
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing that out.
Speaker 5: I have no test Israel nice house.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not the nicest, It's not no, it's I.
Speaker 6: Just want to make my stance noon that I am.
Speaker 6: I am just a neutral man. I'm in like I'm
Speaker 6: like Switzerland and Finland in this whole situation. That's where
Speaker 6: I'm at. I'm just like cool. Tell me both sides,
Speaker 6: you know you do.
Speaker 2: I will say that you know, today's Jew hate is
Speaker 2: yesterday's Illuminati hate. Like it seems like it's the same thing.
Speaker 6: Illuminati is not even brought up anymore hardly. I swear
Speaker 6: to God, I barely even hear it anymore.
Speaker 2: But it seems like the literally the same things that
Speaker 2: they're talking about for the Jews. Was the Illuminati just
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, right, because that's a weird
Speaker 2: in No, No, you're correct, You're one hundred percent correct,
Speaker 2: because that was the point.
Speaker 4: That was the point of that.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 2: It means, am I giving the Jews a pass here?
Speaker 2: Just want to throw that out. Roy So I got
Speaker 2: my eye on you, Bud. Oh Jesus, Yeah, Royce is over.
Speaker 2: You're trying to bring us all down.
Speaker 5: I didn't need bacon. I'm just you know, it has
Speaker 5: the thing about blood.
Speaker 19: You know, he doesn't get down with a bacon cheeseburger,
Speaker 19: and so clear he likes he is down with like
Speaker 19: blood and steak or anything. Well, and other areas is too,
Speaker 19: And I'm like, that's it.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I washed my hands of it. And
Speaker 5: all the fucking rules.
Speaker 6: Man, every time I hear you talk about it, I'm like,
Speaker 6: there's no way in funk I'd want to.
Speaker 5: Be a Jew just because of the rules.
Speaker 2: Good. They don't want you.
Speaker 5: Oh no, they don't want me. No, You're totally good.
Speaker 6: It's the rules, man, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6: It's so many like I I like, you know what,
Speaker 6: I appreciate you, and I'm I'm I'm glad for you
Speaker 6: that like you find structure in that and that's like
Speaker 6: your jam and I think it's awesome for you.
Speaker 5: For me, nah, nom, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be really strokes for different folks, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I have no problem with you or anything
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, even as far as Christianity goes,
Speaker 2: I've been doing a whole day dive, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: this Friday coming up, I'm going to be doing the
Speaker 2: whole contradiction between Jesus and Paul, just to throw that
Speaker 2: one out there, and how shocking want to I'm down.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what my Friday looks like.
Speaker 2: I see if we have a shoots lined up or not,
Speaker 2: but there's going down. I have seen so many pastors
Speaker 2: debate this topic, and you would be shocked at how
Speaker 2: Paul and Jesus are in the same boat. There a
Speaker 2: lot of things, right, Yeah, they do a line on
Speaker 2: a lot of things, There's no doubt about it. However,
Speaker 2: there's very there's some very stark contradictions. One of them. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'll just give I'll give one example. One of the
Speaker 2: examples is is that basically Jesus said that the only
Speaker 2: thing that essentially you got to do to get into
Speaker 2: heaven is just to keep my commandments and love God
Speaker 2: or love me right, Like, uh, that's basically it. And
Speaker 2: then your boy Paul's like, no, you got to worship
Speaker 2: Jesus on the cross and all this extra bullshit about
Speaker 2: like it's basically death warship, and it's just real strange
Speaker 2: because I thought that it was strange whenever Jesus never
Speaker 2: mentioned that the only way to get into heaven was
Speaker 2: by you know, being covered in his blood and all
Speaker 2: this other weird shit, and and then Paul just comes
Speaker 2: in supposedly gets this vision on this road and da
Speaker 2: da da da. I'm not going to get too far
Speaker 2: into it, but basically I just thought that it was
Speaker 2: weird that Jesus, the guy that literally the religion is
Speaker 2: named after, people don't listen to his way as far
Speaker 2: as getting into heaven. People always bring up Paul I
Speaker 2: was in his way.
Speaker 3: I would love to be brought in as a source
Speaker 3: on this episode. But the same time, I understand if maybe.
Speaker 5: You have like, so you two can argue about it.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I understand if Jonathan has like a
Speaker 3: whole script.
Speaker 5: Baker back and forth like old Women, it's gonna be
Speaker 5: the Witnte.
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be the Metal Live Show. We
Speaker 2: had to move it because obviously tomorrow is Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow and for everybody listening right now, the Cajun Night
Speaker 3: Live will also not go down Tomorrow night. I am
Speaker 3: I'm going to release a Cajun Night live or Cajun
Speaker 3: Night episode is not going.
Speaker 5: To be a live the next two episodes.
Speaker 6: He's just going to release live or release an episode
Speaker 6: because he's going to be out of pocket.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other side of that is next week, on the
Speaker 3: week of New Year's I'm going to be in San
Speaker 3: Antonio for a wedding and uh long story yours fuck
Speaker 3: Cult members in San Antonio. I want to link up,
Speaker 3: let me know. But yeah, so I'm going to be
Speaker 3: out that way, and I am going to be out
Speaker 3: of pocket as far as making a live happen.
Speaker 5: The Cult member is going to go can make a
Speaker 5: live happen.
Speaker 3: The Cult Member live is going to go down. The
Speaker 3: Cult the the Cajun Night is not going to be
Speaker 3: going down.
Speaker 5: It just be me solo, ride and deep.
Speaker 6: But I don't think anybody would like I'll have nobody
Speaker 6: to come on, but we could talk some wild shit.
Speaker 3: There you go anyway, Sea Johnathan, we'll see. We'll talk
Speaker 3: offline about that if you want me on or not.
Speaker 3: I get if you.
Speaker 2: Are Yeah, you're no. I didn't even think to ask you,
Speaker 2: but I'm happy that you brought it up. I would
Speaker 2: love to have you. And it's not even going to
Speaker 2: be an argument. It's it's like, because I didn't grow
Speaker 2: up on it, I'm just reading it from the verse,
Speaker 2: like all right, here's this verse, here's this verse. How
Speaker 2: do they contradict each other? And just looking at it
Speaker 2: like that. Now, obviously I don't know the whole context
Speaker 2: of the entire story and the historicity and all this
Speaker 2: other and all this other stuff. That's where you would
Speaker 2: come in and maybe fill in the blanks.
Speaker 4: Heard that, I guess shit, we'll make it happen.
Speaker 6: Then fuck yeah, We'll getting back to the check. Samue,
Speaker 6: you did have your handup for like hot minute to you. Okay,
Speaker 6: do you want to say anything?
Speaker 8: Honestly, I got high and I forget, but I just
Speaker 8: want to tell everybody thank you again.
Speaker 7: Well, miss Waven, if you want, I do feel bad
Speaker 7: about your character, so.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I was just giving you complete ship.
Speaker 6: Like you don't feel bad at all, You're totally good.
Speaker 6: I was just giving you complete ship about it. It's
Speaker 6: totally okay, I promise.
Speaker 2: After she went fuck you and fuck this character.
Speaker 6: No, because like, okay, you didn't see Jacob got all
Speaker 6: these fucking badass stuff and I just got this like.
Speaker 5: Nah, I'm like, what the fuck? How is that possible?
Speaker 7: I gave it up to the will of the gods.
Speaker 5: So I just got fucked on by the will of
Speaker 5: the gods, you know what.
Speaker 20: Fucking all right, Well, go ahead, hope y'all have a
Speaker 20: good night.
Speaker 2: You too, you too, a go ahead, sir.
Speaker 9: This is a pretty stupid question, but let's go.
Speaker 5: I was just I was driving, thought it would.
Speaker 14: Be really funny if like you guys somehow got to
Speaker 14: deal with a rock star.
Speaker 9: And you guys are on the radio and GTA six,
Speaker 9: that would.
Speaker 2: Be so sick.
Speaker 9: Bro.
Speaker 5: I haven't had a rock star since.
Speaker 13: Like tw.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Rock star is the creator of Grand
Speaker 2: Theft Auto and so that's that's what I said. In
Speaker 2: Grand Theft Auto you can like when you're driving, you
Speaker 2: can listen to the radio and stuff. Yeah, and actually
Speaker 2: they're talking about I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: this was a rumor or not, but supposedly there's gonna
Speaker 2: be like a Joe Rogan channel in there. That's pretty sick,
Speaker 2: which is pretty fucking sweet.
Speaker 5: I can see how that would happen for sure.
Speaker 9: I think you guys just matched the vibe so good.
Speaker 14: That game has a bunch of weird Easter eggs like
Speaker 14: Bigfoot and aliens and government cover up stuff. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 14: it's so funny to be playing that game. You're flipping
Speaker 14: through the stations and you just see the cold.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I mean imagine.
Speaker 14: And Rick and Morty, like Rick just slipping through it
Speaker 14: and it's a conspiras.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, imagine like you're in one of those cars
Speaker 2: and maybe you picked up a hooker and you just
Speaker 2: decide to turn it to the cult of conspiracy where
Speaker 2: you know somebody is a guest. It wouldn't never be
Speaker 2: one of us, but somebody screaming fuck the juice, And
Speaker 2: then back to your regular schedule programming. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: That was a hot mic moment, just kidding, um, i'd
Speaker 2: be down. You feel better. I had to piss like
Speaker 2: a race horse. So yeah, I'm good now.
Speaker 6: All right enough, So getting back to the chat we
Speaker 6: got h Stephanie. She said, Happy Tuesday everyone, Merry Christmas,
Speaker 6: you wild bunch of assholes.
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, nope, I filled that in, you wild.
Speaker 2: Bunch of.
Speaker 5: My I like immediately thought, I'm sorry. I really though.
Speaker 6: I associates asshole and truth in the same you know,
Speaker 6: I just like filled it in.
Speaker 5: I didn't even read it all the way down, my.
Speaker 3: Bad Hayden said, just stopping by to see what's popping
Speaker 3: with the cult fan. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to you, Hayden.
Speaker 3: I saw you pop in and pop back out. Earlier
Speaker 3: on Ashton says bro watched my friend's older brother sucked
Speaker 3: down an entire tank of galaxy gas on the fourth
Speaker 3: of July.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean by that, Ashton. If
Speaker 2: that's whipp it, is that another term for the whipp it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, coach just makes you stay awake and not enjoy anything, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I mean it's perspectives. It absolutely hit the re
Speaker 2: sobering button instantly.
Speaker 3: But I also was like you know, if I keep
Speaker 3: doing this shit, I bet I'll understand why people are
Speaker 3: so addicted to it.
Speaker 2: We're walking away, leaving it where we found it.
Speaker 6: God is Love is looking fanciest fuck right now, and
Speaker 6: you're God is Love festive sweater.
Speaker 5: Did I see you over there?
Speaker 2: I was like, look at you fucking high vibe in sir.
Speaker 13: Chicago today.
Speaker 4: You and shy Town Dog.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, dude, Okay, that's awesome, says.
Speaker 4: Oh go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I was gonna say, Skunky got his hand up.
Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, Skunky.
Speaker 13: I've been gone. Yeah, last conspiracy stuff, get to you.
Speaker 13: It on my back. Y'all know what Expedition thirty three
Speaker 13: Star Wars game is, right? It won Game of Awards
Speaker 13: this year. They lost their Game of Awards this year
Speaker 13: due to using AI to actually create it, although the
Speaker 13: actual game you buy does not use AI. And the
Speaker 13: guy that created all your Call of Duty's and your
Speaker 13: Battlefield six died in a car accident three days ago.
Speaker 2: I did not know that. And the new Battlefield or
Speaker 2: the new Call of Duty just came out. I thought
Speaker 2: the Call of Duty seven.
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I'm more of a Battlefield fan
Speaker 3: than a call of Duty fan.
Speaker 2: But that's also completely fucked.
Speaker 3: I bet they'll just start shoving AI into the game
Speaker 3: models from this point onward.
Speaker 13: I never played a hell out of Battlefield six anytime
Speaker 13: you want to join up haul.
Speaker 6: Bit another difference. Anybody actually is like super down with
Speaker 6: Gears of War. You got you got me in Bordlands
Speaker 6: the New Borlands for show.
Speaker 13: They're making a new Gears of War raven. They're going
Speaker 13: to make a new one. No, they're talking about.
Speaker 6: It, yo, you you will see me like just so,
Speaker 6: my whole goal is to save up enough money so
Speaker 6: I belong to multiple cosplay Gears War situations and I
Speaker 6: want to have an entire outfit made. I actually have.
Speaker 6: I have actually contacted member. It's not a coven members
Speaker 6: with you.
Speaker 5: First of all, Gears of War is no, it's not
Speaker 5: even a coven.
Speaker 3: There the aliens, the insects, the local.
Speaker 4: I'm jumping the local.
Speaker 5: First off, you bitch thing fucking coven.
Speaker 6: Over here, trying's alien local locus. I'm not trying to
Speaker 6: be a locist, thank you. I'm trying to be a
Speaker 6: Years of War.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 4: You've got hardcore Slytherin energy. There's no way you're.
Speaker 5: Not going to be Slytherin.
Speaker 2: There's no way you're not going to be a locust who.
Speaker 6: Claw I am raven Claw and Gryffindor. I've gotten both
Speaker 6: of those so many times back and forth that realistically,
Speaker 6: I don't know what house I'm in. I know that
Speaker 6: doesn't matter too many people, but our age group understand
Speaker 6: I'm I'm a fifty to fifty honestly, our age group
Speaker 6: is in our age group.
Speaker 4: Our age Okay.
Speaker 2: No, I need to do one of those tests because
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm definitely Slythering.
Speaker 5: Huffle no to give U.
Speaker 2: Firstly, you know what fucking hufflepuff stands for, to be honest.
Speaker 6: High the high nature vibing like super earthy chill. I
Speaker 6: have one kid that's like one hundred percent hufflepuff energy.
Speaker 2: Slytherin's into the occult ship.
Speaker 4: Slytherin's into being bad as.
Speaker 5: Like I mean to be. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hadn't as far as what they study.
Speaker 3: I'm saying they are known for being smart, clever, cunning,
Speaker 3: all the things, but also like going out of their
Speaker 3: way to be assholes for the sake of being assholes.
Speaker 4: That's not you, dog.
Speaker 3: If I had to put you into a realistic house,
Speaker 3: I would say you would be Hufflepuff. And a lot
Speaker 3: of people say that with an insulting tone. I don't
Speaker 3: mean that insulting.
Speaker 5: I actually don't think Hufflepuff is insulting at all.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Yeah, I mean just as
Speaker 2: far as vibe goes. Okay, I guess that does make sense.
Speaker 2: I was referring to what they study, which, if I
Speaker 2: remember correctly the first one, I remember a lot of
Speaker 2: the cult shit going on in Slytherin, which is why I.
Speaker 5: Was so like a uh, well Tom Reel did.
Speaker 6: Tom Reel studied a ton of the occult shit to
Speaker 6: be able to split his soul into multiple hor cruxes.
Speaker 3: So, but he wasn't like what all southerns get down with.
Speaker 3: He was the outlier right overall. Hufflepuffs house is close
Speaker 3: the cafeteria. They're seen as the stoner house. They're seen
Speaker 3: as like big with herbology, big with vibing with nature
Speaker 3: and all these things, big with animals. I feel like
Speaker 3: you would get down with Hufflepuff.
Speaker 5: Do you think you're like gryffindor energy?
Speaker 3: Every test I've ever taken has shown me one hundred
Speaker 3: per gryffindor.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not a stoner. I only smoke
Speaker 2: every night, not all day, just to make that clear.
Speaker 2: And oh and also, dude, check this out. My dad,
Speaker 2: who literally like hate fucks people who smoke weed. He
Speaker 2: thinks that they are just the lowest scum of the
Speaker 2: earth of rice. And he knows that I smoke weed,
Speaker 2: right like it's it's just a common it's common knowledge
Speaker 2: in in my family. And and so we were all
Speaker 2: standing over at my sister's house because we're all, you know,
Speaker 2: over there for the holidays and shit, right, and uh,
Speaker 2: everybody left except for me and my dad. My dad
Speaker 2: stayed there, he had to do a little bit of work.
Speaker 2: And he goes over and on the counter. So everybody
Speaker 2: like me, my sister, both of my parents, uh, my
Speaker 2: brother in law, everybody vapes, right, And so my dad sees,
Speaker 2: I don't know how my weed vape just jumped out
Speaker 2: of the bag and the counter. He sees my weed vape,
Speaker 2: which looks nothing like a nick atteen vape, by the way,
Speaker 2: nothing like it at all. And and oh, that's actually
Speaker 2: on my nightstand. So he takes up, he takes a
Speaker 2: hit of it, and he goes he comes over and
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, that uh that black and white vape
Speaker 2: you have over there?
Speaker 10: Is that?
Speaker 9: Is that pot?
Speaker 2: And I was like yeah yeah. I was like, how
Speaker 2: did you find it? It was in my bag and
Speaker 2: he goes, it was on the counter. I'm like, okay, buddy,
Speaker 2: and uh so he's like, oh man, I, oh fuck,
Speaker 2: I haven't smoked. And I think he said he hadn't
Speaker 2: smoked weeds since he was like seventeen years old, so
Speaker 2: like thirty years or some shit. He's took a big
Speaker 2: old hit off that biz, didn't he, dude, He took
Speaker 2: a He took one big hit like like you would
Speaker 2: hit a vape, like like to the fucking dome, right,
Speaker 2: And he goes over and sits down and he's like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I'm having a exaet my world spinning, and
Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody smokes this shit. I just
Speaker 2: don't get it my life. And then afterward, whenever you
Speaker 2: came down from it, he goes, I really, I just
Speaker 2: he's judging even harder now because how how does any
Speaker 2: sane mind smoke weed? And I'm like, from.
Speaker 6: To be fair, though, doesn't everybody different, Like everybody is different. Me,
Speaker 6: I like want to peel off my fucking skin with
Speaker 6: the amount of anxiety that I have. And I have tried,
Speaker 6: and people are gonna be like, even need to try this,
Speaker 6: You need to try.
Speaker 14: No.
Speaker 6: I grew up where there's a lot of fucking different
Speaker 6: types of weed, and I've tried many different types.
Speaker 2: It is not not it's not really not for everybody.
Speaker 2: And I haven't spenned.
Speaker 6: Weed since I was like eighteen nineteen years old, and
Speaker 6: I will never go back.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I think that they need to bring
Speaker 2: the bring back the old Mexican dirt weed. Give me
Speaker 2: that Reggie all day long. I don't like this fucking
Speaker 2: super potent shit to that that makes Dude, even with
Speaker 2: me smoking every night, I still get a little anxiety
Speaker 2: from time to time. And because it's so high in
Speaker 2: the THHC levels, I just want something that I can
Speaker 2: just mellow out, maybe giggle a little bit. That's all
Speaker 2: I need. I don't need to fucking go into a
Speaker 2: coma and eat well, I'm gonna eat about three bowls
Speaker 2: of cereal either way. But yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's it's just like I don't need to go into
Speaker 2: like a full on death potion.
Speaker 4: I don't like no dad boy jokes. I see you
Speaker 4: gearing up.
Speaker 6: Sam's over here, like crashing out or just saying like
Speaker 6: fuck the weed.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm definitely, yeah, I'm definitely ripping the dad boat.
Speaker 2: You can call me a full on daboat right now.
Speaker 2: It's a holidays, right.
Speaker 6: I just want you to understand, Like Samuel, I want
Speaker 6: you to understand, my mom is like the most person
Speaker 6: against drugs. I will say that for a lot of
Speaker 6: various reasons, but she actually donated like a good chunk
Speaker 6: to you just to make sure she helps you out.
Speaker 6: And so I'm like, you know what, my mom be
Speaker 6: holding it down.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm thankful, but no, I can understand that.
Speaker 2: Lee.
Speaker 7: I'll be the first to make wait, isn't full everybody? No,
Speaker 7: But like it isn't.
Speaker 8: I've had a cousin who wanted to try it, and
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, better play. You know what, if you
Speaker 8: want to try it, I'd rather you try it with
Speaker 8: me than go somewhere and get it and fuck up.
Speaker 8: Even had a full blown like okay, buddy, you're gonna
Speaker 8: go to bed.
Speaker 5: I've never drove so good ever, in my entire life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we makes you television in.
Speaker 6: But no, it's not that it's like I'm hyperventilating, like fixed,
Speaker 6: like I'm like I'm gonna win. I did it way
Speaker 6: back in the day. I was like driving below the
Speaker 6: speed limit, just like, yeah.
Speaker 2: You feel you're going seventy miles an hour, you're going
Speaker 2: solid forty five.
Speaker 5: Yet to understand I like to race, I haven't done it.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm older now, but back in the day,
Speaker 6: I enjoy myself ageless.
Speaker 5: I'm aging, you know what, I'm ageless. Let's see, here
Speaker 5: we go.
Speaker 6: But back in the day, I grew up where there
Speaker 6: was a lot of racing and things like that, and
Speaker 6: I just quite enjoy it. And I have a lead foot,
Speaker 6: I'll say that. But definitely with weed, I'm the only
Speaker 6: the only like I didn't smoke it a bunch only realistically,
Speaker 6: probably under twenty times. But the times that I did
Speaker 6: do it, like I did gravity bongs and shit like that,
Speaker 6: and uh oh no, I don't want to talk about
Speaker 6: some of my horrible experiences.
Speaker 9: But I.
Speaker 5: Drove so slow.
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure I was doing like twenty five miles
Speaker 6: an hour in like a sixty five fucking like you no,
Speaker 6: no joke, like full turn signal, like five hundred yards back,
Speaker 6: Like I'm like, I'm not getting pulled over.
Speaker 2: You're the living embodiment of the Driver's AD textbook.
Speaker 6: Oh every every kind of like actual rule in the textbook.
Speaker 6: I knew verbatim anyways because we have to, and I
Speaker 6: was like, nope, we're going every single thing.
Speaker 5: I slowed down and looked both ways. At the railroad track.
Speaker 2: It was bad.
Speaker 5: It was really really bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: At Louisiana, the Driver's d thing, it's more a book
Speaker 3: of suggestions and then when you take your test, it
Speaker 3: like matters kind of, but like you know, it's all good.
Speaker 8: I only lost one point in my driving test, and
Speaker 8: that was because I did not come. I had old
Speaker 8: wickedy ass lolo track that has been shut down for
Speaker 8: fifty years.
Speaker 7: So fuck though.
Speaker 8: I know that there is a train stopped on both
Speaker 8: sides of the tracks, and we go over.
Speaker 7: Nothing's coming, So I just go through the hitting like fifteen.
Speaker 8: Okay, Wow, I got deducted to the point, but I
Speaker 8: hit that jay hook fucking perfectly.
Speaker 5: I heard that my Driver's AD teacher would fall asleep.
Speaker 6: Oh he made the mistake of falling asleep while I drove,
Speaker 6: and we would end up in all sorts of places, and.
Speaker 5: He'd be like, what the fuck?
Speaker 6: Because I'd been driving way longer than just driving, you
Speaker 6: know for drivers ad and because I already had my
Speaker 6: permit at fourteen, so my permi it I could drive
Speaker 6: to it from work.
Speaker 2: That's how you show your Oregonian. By the way, we
Speaker 2: call it a permit, not a permet You.
Speaker 6: Want to talk about fucking how to pronounce things Louisiana
Speaker 6: and boy, you want to talk about how to pronounce ship?
Speaker 4: I had my permit to do this. That's seventeen.
Speaker 3: It's like, you mean permit, really, you're Yeah, we put
Speaker 3: inflection on different parts of the.
Speaker 6: Come at me about some of the fucking words down
Speaker 6: to here that make no sense whatsoever. Sanama, fucking animal
Speaker 6: right to Dallas, not Gonzales, literally Gonzales, no one here,
Speaker 6: Santamage over here, Saint Amit.
Speaker 5: You call it New.
Speaker 3: Orleans, you're gonna recall it nacadocious instead, nacadish Listen, listen.
Speaker 5: Come at about permit, permit.
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's that's I hate you.
Speaker 6: It's not I'm not retracting because you people can't talk
Speaker 6: about half of anything, and half the state can't even
Speaker 6: talk half the time. So you come at me, Yeah no,
Speaker 6: that was that was some fucking Cajun crew from all
Speaker 6: across the pond right over. And it's like, yeah, no, totally,
Speaker 6: I understand you completely what you're saying.
Speaker 2: What mean you people, though, right?
Speaker 6: You people from the goddamn South that want to slur
Speaker 6: words together? Not all the South. I'm Samuel's over here
Speaker 6: crashing out. I'm talking about Louisiana South. It's a mess
Speaker 6: down here. Sometimes some people don't have any kind of accent.
Speaker 6: Some people have accents. You can totally understand. Some people
Speaker 6: here in this state have the most accents that have
Speaker 6: ever accent in the entire existence of human history.
Speaker 3: Calm down, permit, We got you, We got all that.
Speaker 9: So a couple of things. So, first of all, as as.
Speaker 12: Joe you're talking about gears, were a little bit ago
Speaker 12: that told that I look like.
Speaker 9: Like a phoenix, Marcus Phoenix.
Speaker 5: How market.
Speaker 9: And the facials the is actually kind of line up.
Speaker 9: And by the way, also propitious you are guys have
Speaker 9: we're having a fu of.
Speaker 12: A time with that word basically means like an appropriate
Speaker 12: like a propitious times, like when it's supposed to be there.
Speaker 2: A propitious Okay, I must have missed whenever you are
Speaker 2: getting on the propitious versus propitious conversation.
Speaker 9: I don't know that, and both both you guys. It
Speaker 9: was on the uh one of the last episodes you
Speaker 9: guys were on.
Speaker 5: We're probably fucking something that we're really bad with saying words.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie so.
Speaker 9: I happen to love words.
Speaker 12: So whenever you guys say like, oh, come.
Speaker 6: On, guys, okay, to be fair, I am dyslexic. I
Speaker 6: will say that one hundred percent and am.
Speaker 2: Very clear that I barely speak American English.
Speaker 6: And for those of you that aren't dyslexic or have
Speaker 6: different types of it, I'm one of those people that
Speaker 6: if I've.
Speaker 5: Never heard the words.
Speaker 6: Said to me, if I'm visually looking at it to
Speaker 6: try and read it, I'm going to fuck it up.
Speaker 5: I'm going to try.
Speaker 6: My hardest, but because I've not heard the words said
Speaker 6: out loud to me, I will struggle with trying to
Speaker 6: figure out what the sounds actually mean and like sound
Speaker 6: like it's just the way it is. I will try
Speaker 6: my best, and you'll if you ever see me, I'll
Speaker 6: skip words or I'll cut ahead when i'm reading things.
Speaker 6: That's why I have Jacob read a lot of the time,
Speaker 6: because naturally I kind of flip between words and I
Speaker 6: skip words because it's just it's easier for my My
Speaker 6: brain is going really quickly and I pick out I'm
Speaker 6: reading faster than what I can say, and so I'm
Speaker 6: picking out exactly what I want to say instead of
Speaker 6: actually reading the whole text. So that's why I try
Speaker 6: to slow down. And I'm not the best at reading
Speaker 6: out loud. I try really hard, but yeah, no, words
Speaker 6: are not my jam.
Speaker 5: I'll say that.
Speaker 6: And I see you job, thank you, I see you, Skunky.
Speaker 6: I know you're dyslexy too. I've seen it in the chat,
Speaker 6: you saying that.
Speaker 13: Oh I was gonna say, don't feel batter. I can
Speaker 13: read perfectly fine, and nobody can. I could read the
Speaker 13: ingreets in the back of a fucking shampoo bottle, but
Speaker 13: I can't spell worth the shit. And I'm sure Jonathan
Speaker 13: knows because he's like, oh, fuck that. I don't want
Speaker 13: to read that. But Jonathan, when are you doing meta ministry?
Speaker 13: Are you doing it this week? Because I've been. Like
Speaker 13: I said, I've been gone. I had to take a
Speaker 13: little break and I went to see my babies.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm not Uh, we're not doing another
Speaker 2: Metahistic show until Friday. That'll be the live show that
Speaker 2: we're going to be doing, and that'll be yep, this Friday,
Speaker 2: day after Christmas, and that'll be the day where we
Speaker 2: go in on the contradiction, contradictions and controversies.
Speaker 13: Listen to nothing in like three weeks. I've just took
Speaker 13: a break from all of it because I've got kind
Speaker 13: of a lot of going on and like you say, conspiracy,
Speaker 13: even being spirituality, it all gets to you after a while.
Speaker 13: So I had to take a little break.
Speaker 9: But I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time of fucking binge now baby.
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, dude, I'm about to get into it and
Speaker 13: I might join Jacob saw thing. Just when it comes
Speaker 13: to the political stuff, I get really anal about it
Speaker 13: because I was around when Bill Clinton got his dick
Speaker 13: suck trying to say he didn't yeah, anybody did. He
Speaker 13: didn't realize I'm like forty okay, So but all right,
Speaker 13: so Friday, because I was just I heard you say
Speaker 13: something earlier that you were going to change the day
Speaker 13: for this week New Year's. You'll still do it when
Speaker 13: you'll do it Friday that too.
Speaker 2: I haven't to be honest, bro, Like, I'm I'm like
Speaker 2: bouncing in between three states right now. I don't even
Speaker 2: know where I'm going to be on New Year's at
Speaker 2: this point. Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm going to
Speaker 2: be in Texas or Louisiana right now.
Speaker 3: I'm in Texas right now, Okay, But I know you
Speaker 3: ain't Louisiana because you stopped by the house when I
Speaker 3: was at the Saints game, and I was like, God,
Speaker 3: damn it.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize you were like stopping the fuck by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just coming by the to drop off
Speaker 2: the flat Earth book shout out the tam shot up
Speaker 2: or no, it wasn't a flat earth book. It was
Speaker 2: a nukes are faking gay. Y'all need to schedule her.
Speaker 2: By the way, have you talked to her yet? We
Speaker 2: I am, I read the book. We are going to
Speaker 2: schedule her. One of the Yep it's happening is that
Speaker 2: shout out to a level plane poem. Yep, she's a
Speaker 2: really nice person, and I believe isn't she like x
Speaker 2: FBI or some shit she was. She worked with the
Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security as far as how they make
Speaker 2: plans to.
Speaker 3: Not predict, but more or less, how to plan when
Speaker 3: a weapon of mass destruction, a chemical leak, something like
Speaker 3: that goes down. She was a part of that with
Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security. So as far as her
Speaker 3: being a FED goes confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 3: That being said, Tam is also like one of the bestest,
Speaker 3: like just.
Speaker 2: The sweetest people ever, too genuinely kind soul, you know,
Speaker 2: And that's why it's so crazy whenever she goes on
Speaker 2: these flat earth rants and I'm just like, cause y'all
Speaker 2: know me, I'm the resident globe tard of this show,
Speaker 2: and I will I'll down that hill.
Speaker 4: I'm go with it.
Speaker 2: And Pat yeah, yeah, it's a thing, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm actually I'm neither. But if I had to
Speaker 2: pick one, it would be flat.
Speaker 3: That you can down that hill, brother, I'm talking about Earlier,
Speaker 3: we talked about Plenty of the Elder in his book
Speaker 3: of the basically the first encyclopedia ever written. He was
Speaker 3: shitting on flat earthers circa seventy a d.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, is that? Uh, that's.
Speaker 3: Roman was Copernicus. Copernicus was the thirteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know why I was thinking. I was
Speaker 2: farther back than that. Ancient Greeks argued about this, Ancient
Speaker 2: Persians argued about this, Ancient Egyptians are argued about this,
Speaker 2: and there has been so many examples of people like
Speaker 2: shitting on each other versus glow versus flat either way
Speaker 2: that goes. This is not a new debate by any means. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's all a dream anyway, So who gives
Speaker 2: a fuck what shape it is?
Speaker 3: Be like that Ashton comment and said, Jonathan, that's like
Speaker 3: the base Forge guy you guys had on talking about
Speaker 3: how microprocessors look similar to ancient architecture. I bought his
Speaker 3: book because his videos are great, but I wasn't happy
Speaker 3: with it or or or I wasn't happy with it
Speaker 3: for some valid reasons, and he refunded.
Speaker 2: Me, Oh, interesting. I have actually haven't gotten the book.
Speaker 2: But he was a really cool dude and super interesting.
Speaker 2: I do like him a lot, But I did you
Speaker 2: know what? There was a there was a quote that
Speaker 2: I saw which I thought was very interesting because I've
Speaker 2: been doing a lot of deep dives into Egyptian mythology,
Speaker 2: and I fought with it harder than I thought that
Speaker 2: I would. Combe Crown. Yeah, actually more so like Osiris
Speaker 2: and uh Set and Horus and Isis and all that shit, right, So, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: that that stuff is pretty crazy. But there's a there's
Speaker 2: a quote inside of one of the pyramids, an inscription
Speaker 2: on the inside. I don't know, I can't remember which
Speaker 2: pyramid it was, but one of the quotes which I
Speaker 2: really fucked with, and I mean I disagree or agree,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, but it's it's a quote inside of one
Speaker 2: of the pyramids that says that, uh, if you know
Speaker 2: somewhere along the lines I'm butcher it, but somewhere along
Speaker 2: the lines of if you know yourself, then you then
Speaker 2: you shall know all the gods, so essentially saying that like,
Speaker 2: if you know yourself fully, then all of those gods
Speaker 2: will kind of make themselves visible. As far as like
Speaker 2: symbology goes, it does make a little bit of sense
Speaker 2: because each one of the gods, whether people believe that
Speaker 2: they were real or not. I think that probably the
Speaker 2: high priests and whatnot probably saw it as more you know,
Speaker 2: symbolic and allegory. That's just my perception. I could be
Speaker 2: one hundred percent wrong, But each one of those gods
Speaker 2: they had all these different attributes. And so whenever it
Speaker 2: says that if you know yourself, then you'll know all
Speaker 2: the gods, I think that you'll just know all the
Speaker 2: attributes of God. In a sense, it is what they
Speaker 2: were trying to say. But anyway, it's just quote. It's
Speaker 2: like that that I really fuck with and really diveing
Speaker 2: super deep into all the Egyptian stuff. I actually bought
Speaker 2: a book and it is a it's called Awakening, Oh Cyrus.
Speaker 2: It's a newer book, but it's like a newer interpretation
Speaker 2: of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, which is getting
Speaker 2: deep in on.
Speaker 3: I hope that with all that being said, you've learned
Speaker 3: how to read Egyptian hieroglyphs.
Speaker 2: All this is very well known. It's a Google search away,
Speaker 2: and you can read a lot of the hieroglyphs on
Speaker 2: the walls of Egypt, of the pyramids, of the tombs,
Speaker 2: of all the stuff, and be able to ascertain what
Speaker 2: they were trying to actually say.
Speaker 3: I hope that that is giving your insight rather than
Speaker 3: somebody's interpretation of what is on the walls.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I mean it's always going to be
Speaker 2: some kind of interpretation because a lot of the h
Speaker 2: a lot of the tablets or whatever, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of like missing shit, and there's not a whole lot
Speaker 2: of full collection as far as all of the inscription goes,
Speaker 2: as far as like the tablets and the scrolls and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. A lot of it's incomplete. What do
Speaker 2: you mean most of it is a complete? What do
Speaker 2: you mean most of it is complete? But there's a
Speaker 2: but almost all of it is incomplete, Like there's not
Speaker 2: a bat story from start to finish.
Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense out loud. And you said most
Speaker 3: of it is complete, but a lot of it is incomplete.
Speaker 3: When you say incomplete, the storylines as far as who
Speaker 3: fucked who to get what kid, and what portion of
Speaker 3: which storyline goes into what, that's all well documented and
Speaker 3: understood at this point, I say Roman mythology is like
Speaker 3: a lot of misunderstood.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, it's very understood. No, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: it's misunderstood. I'm saying that there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: that hasn't been found that's so a lot of the
Speaker 2: story is incomplete.
Speaker 3: By whose interpretation though. A lot of the gods and
Speaker 3: their story arcs and how they were born, who their
Speaker 3: parentage was, who they though, who they married, that's all understood.
Speaker 2: It like main story. Shit, I'm talking about like the
Speaker 2: different little stories for each character. There's like, dude, there's
Speaker 2: a shitload of different stories as far as the whole
Speaker 2: Egyptology goes. It's not just like you know, Osiris went
Speaker 2: to battle with Set and he lost, and so then
Speaker 2: Horace comes to Avenge's dad, and yes, that that whole
Speaker 2: story is understood, but like there, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: haven't got into the nitty gritty of it. But from
Speaker 2: what I've seen a lot of it and not a
Speaker 2: lot of it, a percentage of it is missing.
Speaker 3: Just as far as the finer details, it seems like
Speaker 3: a lot of the Egyptian the Greek in their Roman
Speaker 3: mythology is based in a whole lot of fucking I guess.
Speaker 2: The overarching premise of it, yeah, I mean, if you're
Speaker 2: to take it literally, but I think that I think
Speaker 2: that personally, it's it's mythology for a reason, because you're
Speaker 2: not supposed to take most most times, you're not supposed
Speaker 2: to take mythology as.
Speaker 3: Literal, but they didn't take his mythology. They took it
Speaker 3: as facts.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: It's like saying, like Nordic mythology, people of the Nordic
Speaker 3: tradition truly believe that Thor and Odin and the whole nine, Like,
Speaker 3: they don't think that's mythology. I think that's like as
Speaker 3: real as the sun will come up tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but those are the people. You got to think
Speaker 2: about it, dude. I mean, and even whenever the Bible
Speaker 2: was created, there were a lot of people that couldn't read,
Speaker 2: and so they had to rely on priests and pastors
Speaker 2: and all this other shit to be able to administer
Speaker 2: all that information to them. And that's how they got it.
Speaker 2: And it was a lot of the same way with
Speaker 2: Egyptian stuff. Now I don't know, you know what language
Speaker 2: and all that other shit, but they had high priests
Speaker 2: and you know, a hierarchy of people that were kind
Speaker 2: of conveying the stories to your everyday people and shit
Speaker 2: like that. And I believe, just personally, I believe that
Speaker 2: they looked at it for the symbolism. Maybe they believed it,
Speaker 2: maybe there was maybe there was both going on, but
Speaker 2: there's far too much symbolism to just be taken literal.
Speaker 2: For anybody that's ever done a deep dive into it,
Speaker 2: bro look into the history of it, I feel like
Speaker 2: the vast like ninety nine percent of Egyptians were taking
Speaker 2: it literally, not symbolically. Well, then you're talking about like
Speaker 2: a lot of that's where her meticism comes from. Agreed,
Speaker 2: And her meticism is not a literal thing.
Speaker 3: But the people that were practicing her meticism in the first, second, third, fourth,
Speaker 3: fifth centuries AD took it literal as fuck.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about a d that's way past the
Speaker 2: time where I'm talking about like the twenty five hundred
Speaker 2: BC and before. Oh well, hermis wasn't even a thing.
Speaker 3: Back then, they didn't try to make they didn't try
Speaker 3: to uh, you know, hellenize the Mediterranean hell Greek literature
Speaker 3: and Hermes and her meticism wasn't even a thing at
Speaker 3: that point.
Speaker 2: Right. What I'm saying is is that, yeah, because both
Speaker 2: and Hermes oftentimes get grouped together as the same person.
Speaker 2: Obviously not the same person. These are mythological characters because
Speaker 2: and they have.
Speaker 4: There's like three things that connect them.
Speaker 3: Three out of all of the things, and somehow they're
Speaker 3: like Hermi's treasman gets this.
Speaker 2: It clearly means this and this and this.
Speaker 3: It's like, bro, you're drawing that off of what they
Speaker 3: gave humans literature.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's like the one connecting thing. The thing is is
Speaker 2: that a lot of times, you know, people would take
Speaker 2: a certain like well known author, right, and they would
Speaker 2: say and they would try and continue on with that story.
Speaker 2: And they would try and they would put it in
Speaker 2: the author's name just to try and make the tail
Speaker 2: continue and not necessarily plagiarism. It was more so like
Speaker 2: a they were doing it on their behalf a lot
Speaker 2: like Paul.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: See, now that's the problem. A lot of people don't
Speaker 3: understand that plagiarism. In the first century a d. They
Speaker 3: would throw the Gospel of dot dot dot named somebody
Speaker 3: important from the Bible, even though they had nothing to
Speaker 3: do with it. That was a form of plagiarism from
Speaker 3: back in the day. That's not that didn't mean that
Speaker 3: he said these things, but like he never officiated the work. No, No,
Speaker 3: these are people that were writing down the wildest shit
Speaker 3: humanly possible and throwing on somebody important's name onto it
Speaker 3: and acting like he said him.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. The difference is, sure, you could
Speaker 2: look at that whole Thoath and the Coum crown and
Speaker 2: take it literal and be like, oh, they were just
Speaker 2: real big into like ejaculation. They were obviously there's no
Speaker 2: real meaning behind it. Whereas if you take it symbolically,
Speaker 2: what does it actually mean. If you take the story
Speaker 2: of Osiris about how he dies, he gets, you know,
Speaker 2: fucking killed by by Set and you know, gets put
Speaker 2: into a fucking coffin sent down the river, and Sets
Speaker 2: like that's not enough. I need to butcher them up
Speaker 2: and throw all his little pieces into the river and
Speaker 2: all that kind of shit Ices comes in restores them
Speaker 2: and everything, and then he gets basically sent into the
Speaker 2: underworld and he's like the king of the underworld. Horus
Speaker 2: then goes avenges his dad and gives his eye to
Speaker 2: Osiris and the underworld. It's all symbolism.
Speaker 3: No, if you take that story symbolically, it's still fucked.
Speaker 3: If you take it literally, it's out of its mind fucked.
Speaker 3: If you take it symbolically, it's still crazy as fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't even really get too detailed into it.
Speaker 2: Because there's so much to you have to understand as
Speaker 2: far as symbolism goes to even understand that it's symbolic,
Speaker 2: that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I get that, But like even symbolically speaking, the story
Speaker 3: is wild as like like it's bananas, dude, that's.
Speaker 2: A different time, dude. That's just how they conveyed messages.
Speaker 3: I guess to keep in mind, these are the same
Speaker 3: royals that wrote down these stories, that thought that they
Speaker 3: were the uh, the inheritors of these gods. And they
Speaker 3: were all inbred as fuck, Like it was understood like
Speaker 3: if you had a brother and a sister, they would
Speaker 3: be fucking to make a kid.
Speaker 2: So by the time you got to like King tut,
Speaker 2: he was like nine.
Speaker 3: Generations worth of heard inbreeding and that's all understood by
Speaker 3: his mummy to where it's like, yeah, these people were
Speaker 3: like they weren't even like slightly autistic, No, they were
Speaker 3: full blown retarded and like they were right and.
Speaker 2: Theyreah, they kept them in the family.
Speaker 4: They they show enough, did they showed up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? They were super into that that that king lineage
Speaker 2: and whatnot and keeping in the family and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: which is why I think that like Egypt fell in
Speaker 2: the way that it did. The reason why it's not
Speaker 2: around it so much anymore because I believe, personally, I
Speaker 2: believe that they started taking the symbolic message literal and
Speaker 2: that's what corrupted and made Egypt faul That's my personal
Speaker 2: could be.
Speaker 3: There's at least a crumble of evidence to say that. Honestly, Talomy,
Speaker 3: whenever he got in and hellenized Egypt, they were still
Speaker 3: in the conversation as far as being like one of
Speaker 3: the greatest empires ever to do their thing. I would
Speaker 3: argue that the Islamic revolution is what killed Egypt. They
Speaker 3: were killing it before Islam took over, from what I
Speaker 3: could tell historically speaking.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I was already on its It was already on
Speaker 2: its downfall though by that point, because the Muslim shit
Speaker 2: didn't even start until like five or six hundred, six
Speaker 2: hundred AD.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But Egypt itself, if you look at Alexander the Great,
Speaker 3: one of his top generals, Ttolome took over Egypt and
Speaker 3: made it his own thing into when the Roman Empire
Speaker 3: was going on, Egypt was still chilling. We've heard of
Speaker 3: the story of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar, right, So like
Speaker 3: Egypt wasn't some backwoods civilization at the.
Speaker 2: Turn of the A D versus BC. They were still
Speaker 2: they were still they were pimping, they were still making
Speaker 2: shit happen, They still had their libraries, they still were
Speaker 2: like a massive commerce hub, all these things. They were
Speaker 2: not like off the beaten path. They were one of
Speaker 2: the big dogs.
Speaker 3: Cut to about three hundred years later and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe Egypt ain't all that anymore, maybe things are different.
Speaker 3: Cut to three hundred years more later and it's like, y'all,
Speaker 3: have y'all heard of this in Mohammed?
Speaker 2: Have you heard of this guy? And now Egypt we
Speaker 2: know today. Personally, I think that the reason I think
Speaker 2: that that actually the Egyptian story and the Jewish and
Speaker 2: Christian story actually connect big time in a way that
Speaker 2: like like, I think that obviously the Egypt and all
Speaker 2: of that grandness came way before Christian Jianity, and whether
Speaker 2: you want to say that Judaism goes back five thousand years,
Speaker 2: I'm not here to debate that. I don't fucking know
Speaker 2: the timeline with it, sure, but I think that the
Speaker 2: reason why I think that Egypt was starting to really
Speaker 2: lose its way probably a couple of hundred years by
Speaker 2: the time that, uh, because Moses was leading people out
Speaker 2: of Egypt.
Speaker 3: Right, Moses was during the time of Rameses the second,
Speaker 3: and there was still a lot of pharaohs that had
Speaker 3: very prominent roles in history after him.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah. What I'm saying is is that I
Speaker 2: think that by the time Moses came around, there was
Speaker 2: like a new religion that was starting to form because
Speaker 2: Egypt had really lost its ways. I think that they
Speaker 2: started doing like this is just my own personal take,
Speaker 2: I think that whenever you take things literal, you lose
Speaker 2: the meaning. I think that the people out there that
Speaker 2: need to take things literal, you're you're searching in the
Speaker 2: wrong area. Because if this is just my own personal take,
Speaker 2: only reason I'm saying this is because I believe that
Speaker 2: the world is symbolic. I believe that our lives are symbolic,
Speaker 2: and I don't think that really mostly anything can be
Speaker 2: even taken literal, and that all of these messages are
Speaker 2: almost like messages from that nosis that people talk about
Speaker 2: or you know what I'm saying, Like, I think that
Speaker 2: it's internal knowledge that I just my own personal sick.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw this out there one more time.
Speaker 2: I think that that divine information or whatever comes through
Speaker 2: us and we find it within, because I think that
Speaker 2: that's where the Kingdom of God is. Just throwing that
Speaker 2: out there, That's what I think is going on with it,
Speaker 2: and I think that that message gets lost in translation.
Speaker 2: Whenever you take it literal.
Speaker 3: A lot of people disagree with you, and there's also
Speaker 3: a lot of people that would agree with you.
Speaker 2: So there it is, Oh for sure, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just have a bone to pick with
Speaker 2: people that take things literal. I think that that's beyond
Speaker 2: even important.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about historical documentations, So to take
Speaker 3: historical documentation as literal is how most of anti apology
Speaker 3: and study of human culture has been done throughout the
Speaker 3: course of history.
Speaker 2: So sure, but these are spiritualities.
Speaker 3: These are people who believed with a certain fervent that
Speaker 3: these gods were real. That doesn't make them really means
Speaker 3: that people believe that they were real.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could say that just for about anything, though.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that anything that you believe becomes real,
Speaker 2: just like the eight year olds that believe the Santa
Speaker 2: Claus is real. I mean to them. It's real to them.
Speaker 2: They you know, they hear a little a little couple
Speaker 2: of steps on the roof that has to be sent.
Speaker 2: It could be an acorn falling, But that doesn't make
Speaker 2: but in their mind. No, But it makes it real
Speaker 2: to the individual.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't make it real. That just because it's
Speaker 3: really the individual doesn't make it real to people. You
Speaker 3: could say one plus one equals three your entire life.
Speaker 3: That doesn't make it actual.
Speaker 2: Oh see, this is where this is where we split,
Speaker 2: and this is why like, this is where we come
Speaker 2: at it from very different angles. What I'm saying is
Speaker 2: is that I think that spirituality is an individual experience,
Speaker 2: not something that is necessarily experienced by the masses. It's
Speaker 2: an individual internal experience as opposed to a group external experience.
Speaker 2: I imagine that it could be a group external experience,
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. But I think that anytime
Speaker 2: somebody has a crazy spiritual experience, that is something that
Speaker 2: is happening to the individual inside. It's not an outside thing.
Speaker 2: I think both can happen at the same time. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, maybe and I'll just bring up
Speaker 2: an example like whenever you saw your demon nobody else
Speaker 2: saw that thing. Sure, that was you as the individual
Speaker 2: that was experiencing that. So since nobody else saw it
Speaker 2: and there's no documented record of it, did it not happen? Okay,
Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, that didn't that didn't deify
Speaker 3: inanimate objects, that didn't add to the historicity of anything
Speaker 3: else whatsoever.
Speaker 2: No, of course not. But I mean if somebody would
Speaker 2: would come to you and be like, no, you were
Speaker 2: just making that up in your mind, you'd be like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Yes, And there have been people have messaged me and
Speaker 3: commented and said that I made the whole thing up,
Speaker 3: and that's that is their opinion for sure. If you
Speaker 3: go in line with especially when I started doing digging
Speaker 3: into grim Wars and what other other people from history
Speaker 3: have said, what demons act like, look like, sound like,
Speaker 3: smell like, all the nine.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, I know what this was.
Speaker 3: I understand why people might disagree with that because that
Speaker 3: makes them uncomfortable, And that's fine, that's cool. I'm not
Speaker 3: here to like force anyone to believe what I believe
Speaker 3: by any means.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and also, and nobody's ever found a demon corpse, no,
Speaker 2: because they're not like physical entities. But sure enough enough
Speaker 2: scars on me. So take that for what it is,
Speaker 2: right right, And that's what I'm saying, is that it's
Speaker 2: an internal experience. And that's why I'm so deeply involved
Speaker 2: into the occult and symbolism and just researching all the
Speaker 2: internal experiences. I think that it's all that spiritual shit
Speaker 2: has to do with whatever is going on in the mind.
Speaker 2: You know, the the the first role of hermeticism, or
Speaker 2: the first principle of hermeticism, is that all is mind.
Speaker 2: That's where they start. That literally, every single thing around you,
Speaker 2: everything that you've ever seen, everything you've ever touched, smelled, tasted, touch, whatever,
Speaker 2: is all part of one giant mind. And so that's
Speaker 2: where I started.
Speaker 3: You see, this is where Mistily and disagree, because I
Speaker 3: believe that everything is external. He believes everything is internal.
Speaker 2: I think that's the difference between I think that's that's
Speaker 2: that's esoteric and exoteric. That's that's those two terms. I'm
Speaker 2: more esoteric, he's more exoteric.
Speaker 6: But I agree with both perspectives. Sitting here listening to both.
Speaker 6: I think that you can one person can experience their
Speaker 6: own internal you say whatever it is that you want
Speaker 6: to say, their own internal experience with faith, life, spirituality,
Speaker 6: you name it, They're going to experience something completely different.
Speaker 6: You and I, sitting in the same room will experience.
Speaker 6: Say there's any kind of event, you and I will
Speaker 6: experience them completely different and separately, even though we're sitting
Speaker 6: next to each other in the exact same room.
Speaker 5: And that's something that everybody experiences.
Speaker 6: Just like the same with worship, for example, everyone experiences.
Speaker 6: Now there is a guideline of how you should worship
Speaker 6: quote unquote, but everyone experiences worship differently. Some people believe
Speaker 6: that they actually hear the you know, voices from God.
Speaker 6: Some people believe that they you know, that they've never
Speaker 6: heard God in and of itself, but they pray religiously
Speaker 6: every single day. Some people believe that they need to
Speaker 6: beat themselves with a fucking thing, that they.
Speaker 5: Need to repent for their sins.
Speaker 6: Every single person is experiencing different aspects of the same thing.
Speaker 6: And when it comes to spirituality, that is one of
Speaker 6: those things of you can't tell. There'll be twenty five
Speaker 6: Christians in one room, every single one of those Christians
Speaker 6: will experience their Christianity in a different way.
Speaker 5: Same with Judaism, same with.
Speaker 6: You know, esoteric stuff like it doesn't matter every single person.
Speaker 6: So both of you are correct on the same flip
Speaker 6: side of thinking that there is people that are potentially
Speaker 6: experiencing you know, maybe they are taking it literal, Maybe
Speaker 6: they are taking it for the symbology that it is,
Speaker 6: because you're not supposed to take everything literal in the Bible,
Speaker 6: you're not supposed to take everything literal when you hear something,
Speaker 6: You're not supposed to take everything symbolic symbolic.
Speaker 5: You're supposed to be able to take some things literal.
Speaker 3: So the same thing for Jonathan got in a car
Speaker 3: or he witnessed a car accident had take place, okay,
Speaker 3: and they the police took like four different statements. Four
Speaker 3: people gave four completely different statements as to what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 3: three of these people are fucking lying and wrong.
Speaker 4: It doesn't make it more.
Speaker 6: Real, but your brain is actually so your brain actually
Speaker 6: picks up on different things.
Speaker 5: So when you ask people to describe.
Speaker 6: A criminal, correct, So every person will pick up and
Speaker 6: perceive different aspects of the exact same situation. Now some
Speaker 6: of them unintentionally turn things into a lie without even
Speaker 6: realizing because their brain is filling in the gaps.
Speaker 2: But that's my point.
Speaker 3: That means that your brain is unreliable and we shouldn't
Speaker 3: be looking internally. If you say this criminal clear was
Speaker 3: a blonde. Okay, this person says a redhead. This person
Speaker 3: says brunette. Two of these three people are incorrect. They
Speaker 3: may not be overtly lying. They're giving you true testimony
Speaker 3: to what they saw. That doesn't make them correct.
Speaker 6: So but on that same sense, though, there is very factual,
Speaker 6: scientific based evidence of the Bible, but not every single
Speaker 6: thing is factional and based.
Speaker 5: You can't say all of it that God is inherent every.
Speaker 3: Aside from the Book of Interpretations. Yeah, all of it
Speaker 3: has been factually checked, so.
Speaker 5: That God is just here, yeah, just everywhere.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's been scientifically proven without a shadow of a
Speaker 6: doubt that like this is the way one hundred and
Speaker 6: eighty percent, and that's it.
Speaker 5: Period.
Speaker 2: That's according to Jacob's understanding. That's understand history.
Speaker 5: But okay, I'm talking about like it was important.
Speaker 2: To all history. Yeah, then you would have that would
Speaker 2: be like saying all scholars agree on everything and so
Speaker 2: there you would only need one scholar. Why are there
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of scholars out there that are all
Speaker 2: disagreeing all the time. So you can't say that it's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent for sure, documented, historical, absolute proof. Whenever
Speaker 2: even the scholars can't agree on every single thing.
Speaker 3: They they argue over the minute details. They don't argue
Speaker 3: over the overarching facts.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you examples.
Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. So as far as the whole,
Speaker 2: why I think that all of and this is why
Speaker 2: I always say that I believe that all of this
Speaker 2: reality is a dream of sorts. And as I pointed
Speaker 2: out to the first principle of for meticism is that
Speaker 2: all is mind. I'll give you an example of this. So, uh, Jacob,
Speaker 2: I know you don't dream very often. Raved do you
Speaker 2: dream for a time.
Speaker 5: We actually just had a huge conversation about my dreams
Speaker 5: last night.
Speaker 2: Now, whenever you dream, and usually maybe you're I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's just say you're in a movie theater, right, Let's
Speaker 2: say you having a dream of your You're You're in
Speaker 2: the middle of a movie theater. There's a movie playing,
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of other people around you. Everybody's experiencing
Speaker 2: the movie. You know, some people got popcorns, some people
Speaker 2: got candy, some people are talking, some people has Maybe
Speaker 2: there's a fucking cell phone going off and you're getting
Speaker 2: pissed at that person. Shut your fucking cell phone off. Whatever. Right,
Speaker 2: there's a whole experience that is going on in this
Speaker 2: movie theater. Every single person in there is an aspect
Speaker 2: of your mind that you created. Every single person, every
Speaker 2: single personality, every single experience, every single individual experience of
Speaker 2: every single person in that movie theater. Your mind constructed. Right,
Speaker 2: So I believe that that's what this reality is to
Speaker 2: a much grander scale personally. That's my own personal belief.
Speaker 2: So whenever I say that I believe that everything is symbolism.
Speaker 2: It has to be symbolism because within a dream, that's
Speaker 2: all there is.
Speaker 5: But don't you you believe an astraplane? Correct, So when
Speaker 5: you're dreaming, can't you project yourself into another plane? Though?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 6: So are you constructing in that plane and in it
Speaker 6: of itself because you're within a dream, or are you
Speaker 6: saying that like when you're not astra projecting into another space,
Speaker 6: you're in your own mind, which I agree, because you're
Speaker 6: controlling the narrative. I mean, if you if you're a
Speaker 6: vivid dreamer and you remember your dreams very clearly. You
Speaker 6: know that you can control a lot of things within
Speaker 6: your dream once you realize. Yeah, so once you realize
Speaker 6: you're in that dream state, you can control pretty much
Speaker 6: anything within the dream. But also it's very difficult to
Speaker 6: recognize that you're within the dream. But when you're astro projecting,
Speaker 6: we're going to another place that you you feel like
Speaker 6: and you I've been to places where I don't have
Speaker 6: any control over, Like, it doesn't feel like I have
Speaker 6: any control over at least because.
Speaker 5: It is so.
Speaker 6: Everything in it. I don't quite understand what I'm seeing.
Speaker 6: And then when I do wake up from those places,
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't quite understand where I went and
Speaker 6: what I saw, And I didn't create it, at least
Speaker 6: in my mind. I probably did fictionally, but you know,
Speaker 6: who cares? But are you saying that they're one and
Speaker 6: the same or they that they're different from each other?
Speaker 2: So, first off, I believe that, uh call it the mind,
Speaker 2: call it consciousness, call it awareness, absolutely exists outside of
Speaker 2: the vessel right that we are walking around in. I
Speaker 2: think that, you know, it's more narrowed whenever we're awake
Speaker 2: and we're alert and everything like that. But I think
Speaker 2: that whenever we go to sleep, or we get into
Speaker 2: a meditative state, or we do any kind of psychedelic
Speaker 2: drugs or however you get into an altered state, I
Speaker 2: believe that it becomes much much easier to be to
Speaker 2: have this this world almost dissolved in the physical sense
Speaker 2: and more into whatever we are. Call it a consciousness,
Speaker 2: a soul, a spirit, I don't fucking know, whatever you
Speaker 2: want to name it, right, And I think that as
Speaker 2: that individual consciousness, we become much more aware of that
Speaker 2: there are no bounds. And so if there are no bounds,
Speaker 2: and that means we can basically travel anywhere. I think
Speaker 2: that as a human, especially whenever we're not in an
Speaker 2: altered state, we have the perception that we are confined
Speaker 2: to this one vehicle. But whenever you get into an
Speaker 2: altered state, you realize that you're not necessarily confined. And
Speaker 2: that's where the astro projection, that's where the m viewing,
Speaker 2: that's where all this psychic shit really starts to happen.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean getting into the the all the
Speaker 2: like the astra rejection with the astral plane and all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I think that, you know, I
Speaker 2: think that personally it kind of minimalizes how powerful it
Speaker 2: really is. Whenever we say that it's just a construction
Speaker 2: of our mind, because I believe that the mind literally
Speaker 2: is everything, you know what I'm saying, So like just
Speaker 2: to say that it is the mind, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that we are much more powerful and much
Speaker 2: more vast than we even realize. And I think that
Speaker 2: that is personally the reason why they're poisoning all the food,
Speaker 2: they're poisoning the skies, the water and all that other
Speaker 2: shit and the information that's coming in and putting everybody
Speaker 2: into a fearful well, I think it's putting everybody into
Speaker 2: a fearful state of vibration, which ultimately, if you're if
Speaker 2: you're gonna get you know, down with the chakra system
Speaker 2: and all that go down to the route, and you know,
Speaker 2: you're not really going to experience too much, right, And
Speaker 2: so that's where they talk about, Like there's older stories
Speaker 2: as far as the serpent being the kundalini that rises
Speaker 2: up your spine and that's what gives you the ultimate
Speaker 2: awareness that you are one thing and that everybody else
Speaker 2: is really one thing and so it wouldn't necessarily even
Speaker 2: be a hive mind. On the outskirts, it would look
Speaker 2: kind of you would kind of perceive that it would
Speaker 2: be one giant hive mind. But I think that in
Speaker 2: actuality it's all one mind, and that it's just much
Speaker 2: more vast than the minds that we have been playing
Speaker 2: around with. That's a mouthful. Hopefully that made sense.
Speaker 5: Kind of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I disagree and think the mind is one of
Speaker 3: the weakest proponents of your entire being. But this is
Speaker 3: again why you and I differ so drastically when it
Speaker 3: comes to this conversation.
Speaker 2: I mean, the human brain is the most powerful machine
Speaker 2: in the entire universe.
Speaker 3: I respectfully disagree. I think that our brain is hardwired
Speaker 3: to see patterns when there is none that exists. We
Speaker 3: are hardwired to do flight or fight or flight responses
Speaker 3: and or freeze. And your brain will play tricks when
Speaker 3: you non stop to fill in the gaps of what
Speaker 3: you don't understand.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make it strong.
Speaker 3: That makes it literally survival instincts, which is not what
Speaker 3: I consider strength. So again, Jonathan, you and I very differ,
Speaker 3: very heavily as far as this is concerned.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you can absolutely say that it's the
Speaker 2: most complex. It's easily the most complex and sophisticated object
Speaker 2: in the entire universe. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: And depending on who you ask, it's all relative to
Speaker 3: your upbringing, your environment, and if you do or don't
Speaker 3: want to fuck your mom, debating on if you get
Speaker 3: down with Freud or not. Yeah, the human mind are
Speaker 3: super complex, I know. But anyway, Okay, that's what Freud
Speaker 3: was all about. Basically, he's saying that everybody wants to
Speaker 3: fuck their mom and or like come. That was the
Speaker 3: entire basis for the for psychology as a study.
Speaker 2: Maybe animalists, the animalistic instinct within us. That was what
Speaker 2: I was referring to as like the lower chakra system.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's to find you.
Speaker 6: When that is in reference a lot of time is
Speaker 6: because males are naturally gravitate towards females that remind them
Speaker 6: of their mother, because that is the survival instinct, that
Speaker 6: is the nurturer, that is somebody that will make the
Speaker 6: home for them.
Speaker 2: And when you do the same thing for men that
Speaker 2: remind them of they're dead.
Speaker 5: But when it comes to the mind wise, the brain
Speaker 5: is very fascinating. It is a very complex, insane thing
Speaker 5: that can do so many amazing things and can turn
Speaker 5: on you at the same time.
Speaker 6: There is a lot of complexity when it comes to
Speaker 6: the brain. But I think you're dispelling how strong a
Speaker 6: brain is and how complex it can be. It naturally
Speaker 6: forms patterns. Yes, but like you can in fact change
Speaker 6: so much of you the aspects of your brain. Your
Speaker 6: brain can do so many things. I just I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't inherently disagree or agree with you or Jonathan.
Speaker 6: I think that both of you have compelling arguments to
Speaker 6: both of your sides. I think there is something to
Speaker 6: be said to both parties, that there is a lot
Speaker 6: more to be said when it comes to humanity and
Speaker 6: people and how they interconnect and you know, how they
Speaker 6: connect to religions and how that potentially bleeds into how
Speaker 6: people act and what there could be on the outside.
Speaker 6: Or you know, none of us, none of us have
Speaker 6: been there, and none of us do know one hundred
Speaker 6: percent without fail like we know what is going to
Speaker 6: be on the next side of this life. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean, you believe that you believe very strongly in
Speaker 6: what you believe, but that's again your.
Speaker 2: Belief a belief.
Speaker 4: No, no, but like it's to me.
Speaker 3: It's the same as saying, like I believe that if
Speaker 3: I stick my body in a fire, i'll burn, you know,
Speaker 3: but like you, if you delude your mind enough to
Speaker 3: believe the fire is not hot, then like maybe you'll
Speaker 3: make it out of it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I disagree. You can.
Speaker 3: Your mind can be as strong as you want. Like
Speaker 3: there are certain things that just you can. You can
Speaker 3: argue mentality all you want. Physical reality is physical reality.
Speaker 5: But no one has been to heavening Walk didn't.
Speaker 3: Say that nowhere in my conversation that I bring up religion.
Speaker 3: I'm saying as far as like trying to trick your
Speaker 3: brain into deluding itself into believing that it's more than
Speaker 3: it is. Like the person that sit there and like
Speaker 3: dump hisself with gasoline outside the White House like protest
Speaker 3: the gauze of war and shit, and then let himself
Speaker 3: on fire.
Speaker 4: He really believed.
Speaker 3: That what he was doing was great until he let
Speaker 3: himself on fire, and it's like, never mind, this was
Speaker 3: really dumb, and it's like, yup, your brain told you
Speaker 3: this was a good idea. I don't agree with going
Speaker 3: internal to try to find enlightenment. But again, Jonathan and
Speaker 3: a lot of philosophers throughout the course of time have
Speaker 3: believed in going internal to find higher levels of consciousness
Speaker 3: and higher levels of enlightenment.
Speaker 2: And her point, her point was that nobody has the
Speaker 2: actual factual evidence of what happens on the other side.
Speaker 2: And that's where she was saying, you can have these
Speaker 2: beliefs one way or another, but nobody knows. And then
Speaker 2: you got into how, like we're talking about the human mind,
Speaker 2: how did that go into heaven and hell?
Speaker 6: Because we were talking about heaven and hell, and we
Speaker 6: were talking about religion in and of itself as a
Speaker 6: part of because that.
Speaker 2: Was about psychology, religion, my bad.
Speaker 6: It was all intertwined together that we've been talking about,
Speaker 6: how it's been intertwined in and like together because it is,
Speaker 6: i mean a belief system and what you you know
Speaker 6: verse what there is on you know, religious aspects, it's
Speaker 6: a belief and you you know verse, what is like actually.
Speaker 5: On like the other side, No one really knows.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, verifiable facts in history or complete separate from
Speaker 3: heaven or hell and what happens when you die. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about history versus the mind.
Speaker 6: But I said, but I did agree that there is
Speaker 6: historical facts that have been that can be proven in
Speaker 6: the Bible that yes, these things you know, happen, but
Speaker 6: it could be a record of human history.
Speaker 5: It could be a story. And like that. That's the thing?
Speaker 6: What what says you that this is a really good
Speaker 6: book that was written that documented these things.
Speaker 3: Holes is a really good book that was written, and
Speaker 3: there where to be gained from it and all the
Speaker 3: things and and it paints a great picture. But what
Speaker 3: does that got to do with history?
Speaker 2: People have often said that with me and Jacob. Jacob
Speaker 2: is very left brain logical, so he looks at everything
Speaker 2: as literal. He wants to find a logical human solution
Speaker 2: to it. Because life is binary. Life is black and white.
Speaker 3: There's very few areas in gray where the nature fills in,
Speaker 3: where where nature and no black and no white. In
Speaker 3: nature there is predator, there's very few gray What are
Speaker 3: we talking about?
Speaker 5: But when they have when they actually work together to
Speaker 5: what is that word?
Speaker 3: When does pray and pray work together? Predator and prey?
Speaker 3: When do they work together for some sort of a
Speaker 3: common goal in nature?
Speaker 2: Like predator and prey? Well, the dogs and wolves did.
Speaker 3: That dogs and wolves are both predatory and nature. So like,
Speaker 3: when does the wolf and the lamb work together for
Speaker 3: some common goal?
Speaker 5: Well, that'd be like the same as though animals that adopt.
Speaker 6: Other babies that are not that are actually prey to
Speaker 6: them and they raise them.
Speaker 3: That's very, very very rare. And I believe in choosing
Speaker 3: the rarities to be the exception, not the rule.
Speaker 2: But wouldn't you see that as a shade of gray.
Speaker 3: That is the rarity, that's not the rule. But it's
Speaker 3: still not only black and white though, like I said,
Speaker 3: there's very few exceptions where gray does show through. But
Speaker 3: the majority of nature is black and white. The last
Speaker 3: majority of nature is black and white.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, it's it's all about perception. You know,
Speaker 2: there are there are people out there that are gonna
Speaker 2: have varying levels of agreeing with you, varying levels of
Speaker 2: agreeing with us or I don't want to say us,
Speaker 2: because you know, we don't think exactly the same. But
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like everybody the middle between the two of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. And by the way, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that you should absolutely just disregard everything that is logical,
Speaker 2: like we need. We need both, like we need the
Speaker 2: left brain and the right brain. That's why we have both,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, we have both sides of
Speaker 2: the brain. Anyhow, skunky, Sorry about that, sir, What was
Speaker 2: your hand up for?
Speaker 21: To be honest, you only got like thirty minutes left,
Speaker 21: and spirit Antal is about to blow up, So let
Speaker 21: him talk first, because he had his hand raised like
Speaker 21: fifteen times, and then I'll tell you I'm about the
Speaker 21: mind thing in Raven. You're very smart, but Sam, let's
Speaker 21: sayim go because he's about to blow up.
Speaker 2: He's always about to blow up.
Speaker 8: No, I was trying to say that the effect that
Speaker 8: the theory that Sigmund Foyd has it is called the
Speaker 8: edivis effect.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Also, since y'all also tell them about the Bible, do
Speaker 8: y'all forget that Lot's daughters what they did to that
Speaker 8: poor man.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that has to do with anything
Speaker 3: we're talking about, but yep, that's the.
Speaker 8: Thing, because y'all were saying that just because something happened,
Speaker 8: like even if it's historical, doesn't mean it's a good book,
Speaker 8: and everything in that story being that, hey, it happened,
Speaker 8: but it's a fucked up story popped.
Speaker 2: In my head, and the descendants of both of those
Speaker 2: became the Amalekites and the moa Bites, which became the
Speaker 2: enemies of.
Speaker 4: Israel later on.
Speaker 3: But again, you know, we're talking about the mind versus reality.
Speaker 3: I don't exactly know where you're going with this, Sam,
Speaker 3: but yeah, the story of Lat and his daughters is
Speaker 3: fucked like fucked.
Speaker 13: I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: I was also writing thank you notes to everybody too.
Speaker 2: So fuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do have like eighty five minutes.
Speaker 13: Can I for now? Raven, y'all sitting here talking about
Speaker 13: mine and uh, Jacob loved to bling. You remember, like, Jacob,
Speaker 13: how you had your demon? And I said, I had
Speaker 13: a demon that used to like when I was in school.
Speaker 13: It was in school with me. It walked with me,
Speaker 13: tortured me, scratched me in my sleep, I would get
Speaker 13: scratches on my skin. Yeah, this is why I became spiritual,
Speaker 13: because I believe that, like I've told y'all, the world
Speaker 13: is a manifestation of your brain basically. And here's here's
Speaker 13: an example with like the dreams, Like when y'all knew
Speaker 13: I flew to South Carolina see my babies, and I
Speaker 13: flew back. When I came back, I could not sleep
Speaker 13: because every time I fell asleep, I was like falling
Speaker 13: out of the airplane looking out the window. So explain
Speaker 13: that why would that happen in my dreams to me?
Speaker 13: Even though I'm afraid of flying, which might be why.
Speaker 13: But I believe that you're gonna believe what you want
Speaker 13: to believe, and if you really make yourself believe it,
Speaker 13: you will believe it.
Speaker 2: Right, You can absolutely delude your brain into believing whatever
Speaker 2: you want to. That is a fact.
Speaker 6: I had a therapist once tell me that when doing CBT,
Speaker 6: which is cognitive behavioral therapy, pretty much what that is
Speaker 6: for is for like PTSD, trauma, sexual assault, severe anxiety,
Speaker 6: things like that, And when you go through that, you
Speaker 6: have to there's a paper that you fill out and
Speaker 6: while you do it, pretty much you learn that your
Speaker 6: brain will lie to you and to make up so
Speaker 6: as trauma trapped, like as trauma continues, you forget key points,
Speaker 6: your brain will remember certain aspects and will warp other things.
Speaker 6: And he pretty much said that, He's like, is your
Speaker 6: brain trustworthy? And I was like, well, what do you
Speaker 6: what do you mean by that? And he's like, in
Speaker 6: particular for guilt. Say you're do you have like severe
Speaker 6: guilt surrounding a traumatic event? Are you actually being are
Speaker 6: you really experiencing guilt because you actually should be guilty,
Speaker 6: or you're experiencing it because you're just experiencing because you
Speaker 6: wish something could have changed, and it was more or
Speaker 6: less a conversation of how your brain will trick you,
Speaker 6: which is a really interesting aspect when it comes to
Speaker 6: trauma and things like that. But that's kind of the
Speaker 6: same hand though, when you think about people talk about
Speaker 6: beliefs and religion and spirituality and all of these different aspects.
Speaker 6: People are believing different things based on what they've experienced,
Speaker 6: what they feel, what they're learning. All these things are
Speaker 6: flowing into us to ship shape excuse me, shape and
Speaker 6: shift what we're thinking and how we're going to feel
Speaker 6: when we look at certain texts or we feel about,
Speaker 6: you know, if we're meditating, if we're you know, say
Speaker 6: we're going to church. You know, everything kind of flows
Speaker 6: into that and shapes how your brain is perceiving what
Speaker 6: you're actually believing, and so things can change, things can shift.
Speaker 6: I think that there's a lot of I think they
Speaker 6: both have different points that are correct and that are incorrect.
Speaker 6: That's kind of where I'm at with the whole religious conversation.
Speaker 13: I Raven, Raven, you're very smart with the brain stuff.
Speaker 13: Here's a question. I was married for seventeen years and
Speaker 13: when I divorced my methatic wife, and thank god I
Speaker 13: didn't have to see her. Did get message by her yesterday?
Speaker 13: I got to block her. I want to get a
Speaker 13: restraining order out of state. But whatever. When we divorced,
Speaker 13: I started having dreams where I was drowning her in water,
Speaker 13: but I could not completely drown her. Can you explain
Speaker 13: why I was having those dreams.
Speaker 5: I'm going to be real with you.
Speaker 6: There is a lot to the brain and I am
Speaker 6: not a psychologist, and I don't want to speak on
Speaker 6: something that I don't have enough knowledge based on because
Speaker 6: when it comes to dreams, there's so many things that
Speaker 6: I mean, hell, I've died hundreds of times in my dreams.
Speaker 6: I've killed so many people in my dreams in various ways.
Speaker 6: I've done all sorts of shit in my dreams. I
Speaker 6: don't particularly understand dreams and how they work. There's a
Speaker 6: lot of books that you can buy that kind of
Speaker 6: like talk you through what people believe that are dreams.
Speaker 6: But that's one thing that when it comes to the brain,
Speaker 6: I don't have enough knowledge. I have some of my
Speaker 6: closest friends that are actually psychologists, and they, you know,
Speaker 6: that's what their hub is.
Speaker 5: Mine is not that. I'm more along the birth aspect
Speaker 5: of things and when it comes to human body, so.
Speaker 2: I'd take a crack at it. So you're drowning your wife,
Speaker 2: but you can never kill her. That was the moral
Speaker 2: basis of.
Speaker 13: The story, basically from like, you know, I like spirituality
Speaker 13: and I study dream stuff, and I think most of
Speaker 13: the dreaming is basically your daily life that you live.
Speaker 13: That's why you have dreams of your days. But I
Speaker 13: think it was due to hatred of wasting seventeen years
Speaker 13: of my life. And I was so mad and angry
Speaker 13: that I had lost my kids and all this and
Speaker 13: now I'm going through all this bullshit that I'm doing
Speaker 13: now that in my dreams, I kept trying to drown
Speaker 13: her because, to be honest, I want to punch you
Speaker 13: in a fucking face. I wanted to hurt her bad.
Speaker 13: Oh god, I just don't want talk to her, and
Speaker 13: she's hurting herself. But I was like, why am I
Speaker 13: having these dreams? And I do not like him the
Speaker 13: kind of make me feel uncomfortable because I'm not that
Speaker 13: type of person. I'm not an evil person. Yes I
Speaker 13: play with stuff, but I don't like to be evil.
Speaker 13: I like, I like humans. I like this world and
Speaker 13: we just live it. But I was like, why am
Speaker 13: I having these dreams? What's going on?
Speaker 2: So you just said it right there that you didn't
Speaker 2: want to kill her, Like you don't want to kill her.
Speaker 2: Maybe you just want to give her a swift kick
Speaker 2: to the old Huha from time to time or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I mean, as far as the dream goes, usually
Speaker 2: water is associated with emotions, and so maybe what you
Speaker 2: were really trying to drown, you were trying to drown
Speaker 2: her because maybe she hurt your feelings a lot. She
Speaker 2: really wrecked your life in a bunch of different kind
Speaker 2: of emotional ways, your kid's life. I don't know the
Speaker 2: extent of the story, but usually water connects with emotions,
Speaker 2: and so it does make a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys had seventeen years together, and you're making.
Speaker 13: So much sense for with the water, because a lot
Speaker 13: of water's in my dream with her and I still
Speaker 13: dream about her today even though it's been a year.
Speaker 13: My kids refuse to talk to her, Like my daughter
Speaker 13: stays at my mom's and will not she has no cussier.
Speaker 13: But my daughter don't want nothing to deal with her.
Speaker 13: She's seven and my son's like sixteen. Don't want nothing
Speaker 13: to deal with her. And by the way, yeah, I
Speaker 13: will spow her baggage out. She's doing Heroin again and
Speaker 13: we just don't really talk much. I'm done with it.
Speaker 13: But you are making a point with the water stuff,
Speaker 13: and water is my element as of July, cancer and
Speaker 13: all that, and it's like, whoa coincidence?
Speaker 2: Man, Hey cancer the crab, I see you. Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: And you know what's really interesting too, is that a
Speaker 2: lot of times. So they have like apps and shit
Speaker 2: that you can download that will like help interpret your dreams.
Speaker 2: They have like AI aps for if you kind of
Speaker 2: like to dabble in that kind of stuff. And what
Speaker 2: you can do is is say you have a dream
Speaker 2: and you want to throw it through the interpreter and
Speaker 2: have an interpreter for you. You can actually do that
Speaker 2: for reality too. So something big, crazy, whatever happens to
Speaker 2: you in reality, type it into the dream interpreter and
Speaker 2: see the symbolic meaning of it, and I guarantee you
Speaker 2: you will fucking run around like a chicken with your
Speaker 2: head cut off. You'd be like, holy shit, how does
Speaker 2: it know? Because I think that they're I mean, sure,
Speaker 2: there's there's stark difference between the dreamer, the dream world
Speaker 2: and weird.
Speaker 13: For you, man, you're big with numerology and all this.
Speaker 13: I I was born nineteen eighty five, My father was
Speaker 13: born nineteen fifty eight. My kids all have five letters
Speaker 13: in the name. I have five letters in my name.
Speaker 13: My last four digits of my phone number eighty five,
Speaker 13: eighty five, and I was born on the fifth. A
Speaker 13: lot of eight and five show up in my life constantly.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, well and a lot of times your
Speaker 2: your house number will associate with that too. So like
Speaker 2: if you have a house number that's like I don't know,
Speaker 2: let's just say it one, two, three, four. You just
Speaker 2: add them all up together and it's what is that? Ten?
Speaker 2: Which you know, usually a good sign, usually a connection.
Speaker 13: That's why I ask you, I forgot the app that
Speaker 13: you told us to download.
Speaker 2: Well, look ten, ten is usually it's a sign of
Speaker 2: completion and it reduces down to one, so it's a
Speaker 2: it's a start of a new beginning.
Speaker 13: So there's a ten of diamonds. Is my card doue spirituality?
Speaker 2: For some reason, my address adds up to eighteen. What's
Speaker 2: that mean for me? It's a nine. It's nearing completion.
Speaker 2: My lucky number eighteen nine nine. Yeah, nine means nearing completion.
Speaker 19: What is What do you think about scorpios I.
Speaker 2: I personally have not had very good luck with them
Speaker 2: as far as dating X was a scorpio fucking psychotic, right,
Speaker 2: But I will say I mean usually the crazy bitches
Speaker 2: are the most fun.
Speaker 4: Are Indeed, I can't deny.
Speaker 13: That equal grippie box, my boy.
Speaker 6: I mean in the sense of, like, what do you think.
Speaker 6: I don't know a bunch about astrologies. I know, I know,
Speaker 6: like a good enough amount, but like not deep dive.
Speaker 6: So I'm curious to see what Actually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to like scorpios as not to date,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that no more. But as
Speaker 2: far as like speaking to a scorpio, usually there I
Speaker 2: find that they're a lot more intelligent in a sense
Speaker 2: I find that I have a pretty I usually have
Speaker 2: good convert like in depth style conversation with that because
Speaker 2: I personally and I don't know a whole lot about astrology,
Speaker 2: but just from my my little interactions with scorpios, I
Speaker 2: feel like they they feel shit at a much deeper level,
Speaker 2: and so that that way they're able to interpret things
Speaker 2: in a deeper sense, and so you can have like
Speaker 2: deeper conversations, and you know, it's a level of intellect
Speaker 2: that I personally find satisfying.
Speaker 6: I'm just curious if you knew a bunch about it,
Speaker 6: so because I know there's like a later in the
Speaker 6: month scorpios and then earlier in the month scorpios apparently, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not the astrology guy. Don't ask me on
Speaker 2: the I don't know, to.
Speaker 5: Be honest with you. For those who wonder, I am
Speaker 5: a scorpio.
Speaker 6: For those of you curiously asking and wondering why I
Speaker 6: brought that up, I am a scorpio.
Speaker 2: So I brought up clearly.
Speaker 13: But maybe you're not a crazy scorpio.
Speaker 3: At least nobody said that. Nobody said that one times a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am saying, she ship you know.
Speaker 5: Hmm, I'm the same one. When are you talking?
Speaker 13: Sure?
Speaker 2: Yep, shown up anyway, So get into the chat. Uh.
Speaker 3: We have like eighty five Ungrad messages, and I'll be
Speaker 3: real with you, most of them kind of played off
Speaker 3: of each other. Uh and and most of them have
Speaker 3: already been addressed as far as the cor conversation goes.
Speaker 2: This evening, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people have said good night and they had
Speaker 3: to dip out early. We appreciate all the good cult
Speaker 3: members who made their journey on this Tuesday night to
Speaker 3: have this conversation with us.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: Okay, Sam, We're not wrapping up just yet, so if
Speaker 3: you're about to give your sin off, you don't have
Speaker 3: to just yet.
Speaker 4: But all right, go ahead, what you got.
Speaker 7: Don't be mad at me. I made Steff's earlier. Don't
Speaker 7: be mad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was curious about that. You made Steph's D
Speaker 3: and D character. What was that about?
Speaker 8: She said she wanted she wanted to see her D
Speaker 8: and D character and we were talking about earlier and
Speaker 8: I made her what elf, That is a board and
Speaker 8: her cast bonus is because she's a board kind of made.
Speaker 5: She had such good ones. Hers is so good.
Speaker 8: It's not even just based off of the dice, it's
Speaker 8: also based off of the classes.
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm looking at Samuel Samui l Fallen's son.
Speaker 4: Is that you?
Speaker 2: That's okay?
Speaker 7: Okay, so on five different campaigns.
Speaker 2: So the one right above it might be stuff. Hold up,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull up John Dunmyer. That is Jonathan, Oh,
Speaker 2: Jonathan Dunmyer. It would be the resident Wizard slash whatever
Speaker 2: you want to make it.
Speaker 4: Let's see, all right, So reading the stats here, he
Speaker 4: is a dwarf druid. You made him a dwarf.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, He's got an armor class of ten, Strength twelve,
Speaker 3: dexterity ten, constitution eleven, intelligence nine negative one, wisdom plus three. Okay,
Speaker 3: so how can you be an intelligence negative one but
Speaker 3: a wisdom plus three?
Speaker 2: I mean intelligence doesn't equal wisdom and vice versa. That's fair,
Speaker 2: and then charisma is a plus three.
Speaker 8: Okay, But that's the thing, like you have your your bone,
Speaker 8: your cast modifiers and everything, your bonus modifiers, which does
Speaker 8: play off on you your stats anyway, and it also
Speaker 8: goes off of your classes. So I'm not trying to
Speaker 8: masking one up. I'm just letting how everything goes, and
Speaker 8: the blood magees. It's God.
Speaker 7: The way it's gonna be is gonna probably be the
Speaker 7: most overpowered.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Captain Charisma aka Christian. Okay, now I
Speaker 2: got Steph? Is this Starlus a wrestling reference? Sam, you
Speaker 2: don't get that one?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 18: Yeah, I did.
Speaker 7: It took me in a SECONDO. You're talking about Christian Cage, Eh.
Speaker 2: Talking about now star Ellis Candor? Is that Steph? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's stilarious, stilarious Candor. All right?
Speaker 4: So she is an elf bard.
Speaker 3: She has an armor class of twelve plus two, initiative
Speaker 3: hit points eighteen out of eighteen. Let's get into it here,
Speaker 3: strength negative three. Strength is negative three. She has a
Speaker 3: strength of five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: Dexterity is plus two or fifteen, constitution plus two fifteen
Speaker 3: and intelligence sixteen plus three, Wisdom nine negative one, and
Speaker 3: charisma eighteen plus four. You know, at least I gotta
Speaker 3: stand by the whole Charisma thing. As far as stuff goes, Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's up there. As far as the Karis goes, she'd
Speaker 3: be ris if you will.
Speaker 7: I love her, But you're Al's gonna be multi passed.
Speaker 8: Who they're Yeah, Raven, soo, Yo's gonna get better anyway.
Speaker 6: All Right, I'm here for it. I like I gotta
Speaker 6: slay some dragons or some ship.
Speaker 4: So real quick, Why is Jonathan druid?
Speaker 13: Dwarf?
Speaker 2: Why dwarf?
Speaker 3: Why not like a druid elf? That's my question as
Speaker 3: far as Jonathan's concerned.
Speaker 13: Why a dwarf?
Speaker 2: Why Drewid? I'm a Druid.
Speaker 4: Well, I can see the druid.
Speaker 2: But like, there's druid and mage and and elf and
Speaker 2: made I.
Speaker 7: Chose a dwarf is because he he was a football player?
Speaker 4: Is that an inherently dwarfish thing?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 8: It's it's a bunch of angry men crashing into each other.
Speaker 5: It checks out a lot, So.
Speaker 2: I don't want it. Okay.
Speaker 7: I know more about wrestling than football, Okay.
Speaker 6: I mean that's fair. I guess I'm super into football.
Speaker 2: We like not I mean I do like hitting and
Speaker 2: being hit. So you know how your Steelers doing right now?
Speaker 5: Johnson Masochist, We're doing great.
Speaker 4: We want three in a row really against.
Speaker 8: So how I'm gonna do this is I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 8: gonna have to send y'all. I'm gonna have to export
Speaker 8: y'all each of your characters as a so could.
Speaker 5: You teach us how to play that? Well?
Speaker 6: I don't know how to play. I know how to play,
Speaker 6: but not knowing, like I'm not the best at it.
Speaker 5: So could we play away from each other?
Speaker 7: Like could we like zoomall, I would coordinate everything. We
Speaker 7: would be able to play it.
Speaker 5: We can have a whole campaign.
Speaker 13: Chat we haven't accoll played if we wanted to.
Speaker 8: It's called D and D Beyond and that's actually what
Speaker 8: I used to create y'all's characters.
Speaker 2: Oh Raven is now downloading the app now, dude.
Speaker 5: I love games.
Speaker 6: Actually, we played the Organ Trail just like we were
Speaker 6: actually pushing why we were struggling.
Speaker 3: Trail is Organ Trail the board game, not the computer game.
Speaker 5: Though from orgon we trail.
Speaker 2: About the flopping disk.
Speaker 5: I got you to like, come at me.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like, I got the desk version. It's
Speaker 3: an absolutely thing, the floppy disk version. But there is
Speaker 3: a tabletop game for Oregon Trail these days, and it's
Speaker 3: fun as hell.
Speaker 4: Not gonna lie.
Speaker 5: I also can't believe, however, is just to fucking go
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 4: We're going to finish.
Speaker 5: It is about who had the most money.
Speaker 3: I will say the board game does not have enough
Speaker 3: people dying of distance.
Speaker 5: Not it barely has anybody.
Speaker 6: And there's so many good like lucky cards compared to
Speaker 6: the actual game itself, because I spent years trying to
Speaker 6: beat that damn game growing up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you did.
Speaker 2: That's like so like, dude, I played that a lot
Speaker 2: too growing up on that.
Speaker 5: I love the organ trail man.
Speaker 13: You always got numbers. There was another game you could
Speaker 13: play back in the nineties or nineties called Number Munchers.
Speaker 5: Oh, the one where you ate the numbers right, destroy
Speaker 5: that one. Oh my god, I have not remembered what
Speaker 5: that was.
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about this saga Genesis US.
Speaker 5: So do you remember.
Speaker 7: The one now beat Head two thousand?
Speaker 13: I do.
Speaker 2: I can't say that I do.
Speaker 3: The only a game system game, well.
Speaker 8: It was the only game I had for the computer
Speaker 8: besides the pinball game, but I had growing up. I
Speaker 8: had the GameCube, I had a PS two, Nintendo Sit
Speaker 8: I pretty much every game console up until the current
Speaker 8: gen Yeah, for the PS two.
Speaker 3: I was super stoked that me and my twelve year
Speaker 3: old and my four year old just beat GoldenEye.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm such trash.
Speaker 4: What No, No, You're not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: Whoa, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: This is the first first person shooter game ever released
Speaker 3: for personal.
Speaker 2: Concert.
Speaker 6: So the only reason I played a video game like
Speaker 6: Pac Man or Organ Trail was because of school. No
Speaker 6: like let us play for like a little snippets of time.
Speaker 2: Now, see, you're just get to be a part of
Speaker 2: the system. Man. They're trying to get you with the
Speaker 2: video games for education.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 2: I think dude, Doom came out before GoldenEye.
Speaker 3: Though, as far as the first person shooter game goes,
Speaker 3: GoldenEye was the first one for N sixty four and
Speaker 3: they made a remake of it for Xbox and we
Speaker 3: just completed it. It's phenomenal. It is just as bad
Speaker 3: as you remember. No one fucking asked you you Raven.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying all of these to play.
Speaker 7: Like your family on your cow.
Speaker 6: But I'm also not a big video GoldenEye game for Xbox.
Speaker 13: Yes, not the Double oh seven original, the Double seven
Speaker 13: Golden Gun, the Big Heads and all that ship.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you could play PvP with all of the guns,
Speaker 3: including the Golden Gun on on Personal. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3: It's fucking great.
Speaker 13: What Xbox because I got like we got like three.
Speaker 3: I had Xbox One and I downloaded the game for free.
Speaker 3: With a game pass, and GoldenEye has been revamped and retooled.
Speaker 3: Apparently it came out in twenty twenty three. I just
Speaker 3: now learned about it.
Speaker 13: Get Raven to play some Fallout and she'll get more
Speaker 13: into games.
Speaker 2: She love Fallout.
Speaker 6: I actually have been watching. I don't know if you're
Speaker 6: watching the seasons right now. Where season two episode one
Speaker 6: already drops.
Speaker 13: I haven't watched it. I need I need to pay.
Speaker 6: Okay, So yeah, so season season two episode one drop
Speaker 6: last week, the next one will drop this week.
Speaker 13: I'm this way the new season, the new season of Fallout.
Speaker 13: I heard that supposedly she fucked the Ghoul.
Speaker 5: Please not yet, not yet right now.
Speaker 2: They have not spoil it.
Speaker 6: So as right now, know that is not happening there currently.
Speaker 6: So currently her father is at like the Hub City
Speaker 6: and they're still tracking him down and trying to figure
Speaker 6: out how in depth this went, like how how much
Speaker 6: how many people planned it? I'm not spoiling anything, how
Speaker 6: many people planned the end of the world.
Speaker 5: That's not any spoilers.
Speaker 13: Any episodes so far, because I gotta I gotta order.
Speaker 6: I think the season one has like I think I've
Speaker 6: watched season one. Okay, So so far, Season two only
Speaker 6: has one one episode right now, and I just watched
Speaker 6: it two days ago.
Speaker 13: Fallout Boy sign what's up?
Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So it definitely is uh okay, Samuel, I just downloaded
Speaker 6: A D and D and Beyond by the way.
Speaker 2: Uh wait, is that why the band is called fallout Boy?
Speaker 2: I hope not. Is that why it's called that?
Speaker 5: I don't know?
Speaker 13: Complicated Jonathan Divez Fallout Boy, fall Boy. There's three different
Speaker 13: types of Fallout Boys. You have to like go on
Speaker 13: YouTube and.
Speaker 5: I like Fear. Has it even ever played Fear?
Speaker 6: Where like you're controlled with the girl that screams and
Speaker 6: all this shit that happens with like old girl and
Speaker 6: like you, I've got the controller like shakes and all
Speaker 6: this stuff when like she screams every time.
Speaker 5: It's like a two brothers.
Speaker 6: They're insane and like they have like they know nobody
Speaker 6: knows that.
Speaker 2: How about hell Fire and Pitfall? Anybody out there?
Speaker 5: I don't know what that?
Speaker 2: Remember these games on the sake of Genesis, No, I
Speaker 2: say Doom Doom.
Speaker 13: Back in the day, you couldn't jump when it first
Speaker 13: came out. All you could do was shoot and run around.
Speaker 13: Just wait at my library in the early eighties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what doesn't get enough of a call
Speaker 2: out from from time to time as fucking Banjo Kazooi, Dude,
Speaker 2: bad game, fucked Iral the Dragon love Banjo KAZOOI. Hold on,
Speaker 2: you're telling about a crash bandicoot. Oh there's that too. No,
Speaker 2: Banjo Kazooi was on n sixty four. Oh man, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to remember.
Speaker 13: It was a bird that sat in the back of
Speaker 13: a bear's back.
Speaker 4: Yea, yep, I remember it now.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot all about Banjo KAZOOI.
Speaker 5: I have no idea what cool?
Speaker 2: That is a deep cut to my second grade year.
Speaker 4: Holy shit, you.
Speaker 5: Played the games in second grade.
Speaker 3: Like so my parents didn't have We had a Sega
Speaker 3: Genesis and that was all we had. And that was
Speaker 3: at the moment, and by moment, I mean like that
Speaker 3: snippet of time was like the latest and greatest. Then
Speaker 3: Nintendo sixty four came out. All my boys down the
Speaker 3: street have won. So I was over their house playing
Speaker 3: Nintendo sixty four, like the South Park uh Go kart
Speaker 3: racing game and shit where like you would throw mister
Speaker 3: hanky at a motherfucker. It was basically a south Park
Speaker 3: version of Mario Kart. Let's be real, but we were
Speaker 3: in it. We were in that shit.
Speaker 6: The only person I know that had a video game
Speaker 6: system was a girl like down way down the street,
Speaker 6: and they were like filthy rich.
Speaker 5: Everybody else we'd just be like.
Speaker 2: Living my boys, My boys parents are filthy rich. We weren't.
Speaker 2: So that's why I had the sake of Genesis up
Speaker 2: until like middle school.
Speaker 6: I think I played all of a whopping ten minutes
Speaker 6: of a video game.
Speaker 5: I was like, well, this fucking sucks. I'd rather be outside.
Speaker 2: So but we also balanced it.
Speaker 3: We were outside playing soccer and baseball and football. We
Speaker 3: are going out and making camps in the woods on
Speaker 3: the bayou whatever. But like on a day where we
Speaker 3: couldn't go outside for whatever reason, oh yeah, we'd beginning
Speaker 3: to popping on the n sixty four.
Speaker 5: We watched a lot.
Speaker 6: Of movies, We played video games, took care of the farm.
Speaker 2: You know, only at night. Only at night we were
Speaker 2: allowed to play m h heard outside during the day,
Speaker 2: heard that.
Speaker 4: You know, not everybody's childhood is the same.
Speaker 3: People have different core memories from their youth, and some
Speaker 3: of us from the nineties, the nineties kids would have
Speaker 3: memories of downing way too much surge for human consumption,
Speaker 3: showing down on some three D Doritos, and playing Golden
Speaker 3: Eye well into until the sun damn near came up.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 2: It's not for everybody, but some of us remember the
Speaker 2: good days and finding our dad's porn collection.
Speaker 3: Didn't have that, never I had. I found my uncle's
Speaker 3: porn collection one time time, easy.
Speaker 6: Writers the magazines say the magazines.
Speaker 5: My dad hit him out in the garage underneath boxes.
Speaker 2: And as an adult now I'm thinking, like what would
Speaker 2: they do, just like go out there and stare at
Speaker 2: it for a bit and then go inside and beat
Speaker 2: their meat in the bathroom, Like why why would the
Speaker 2: magazines not be where you needed them? This makes no
Speaker 2: sense out there? You know.
Speaker 3: I guess you usuld be busting on the floor and
Speaker 3: just you know, saying fuck the world. I get it,
Speaker 3: but like, damn, all right.
Speaker 2: We've all been there. Sometimes you just got to take
Speaker 2: care of the fucking problem right down there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my uncle was the same way though, he kept
Speaker 3: his shit out like the shit.
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, you.
Speaker 3: Would go out there and be like turning wrenches on
Speaker 3: your lawnmower in the shit dude, every time you cut
Speaker 3: the grass, it does not need that much maintenance. There's
Speaker 3: no way your lawnmower needs that much repair. And your
Speaker 3: wife just like never called on. Meanwhile, there's like three
Speaker 3: full on boxes of dumpster porn. Meanwhile, the internet is
Speaker 3: a thing, like the internet exists at.
Speaker 2: This time, and like he was wrenches, all right, he
Speaker 2: would turn to something.
Speaker 5: They had some good, you know, photoshoots back in the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but again the internet being a thing you.
Speaker 6: Could just I mean, we didn't even get a computer
Speaker 6: until I was like in eighth grade, I think seventh
Speaker 6: eighth grade, Yeah, eighth grade, and we had a dial
Speaker 6: up and honestly, we only used it just for Wikipedia.
Speaker 6: We had some learning games we played and my mom
Speaker 6: like there was like a spelling shit and type in
Speaker 6: some papers here and there, and that was really about it.
Speaker 3: Hey did myer civilization? If anybody remembers these games, that
Speaker 3: that was the shit.
Speaker 2: What did you say to Raven? Your parents were older, right.
Speaker 6: I mean my parents were thirty one and thirty two
Speaker 6: when they had me. But we just honestly, I mean
Speaker 6: we lived on a farm and like my parents didn't
Speaker 6: My mom.
Speaker 5: Is extremely extremely.
Speaker 6: Intelligent human being when it comes to computer systems and
Speaker 6: all this stuff. She actually learned how to write an
Speaker 6: entire coding system for her company that still to this day.
Speaker 6: She wrote it, implemented and taught everyone how to use
Speaker 6: it in her company that still uses it today for
Speaker 6: the software programming.
Speaker 5: Like my mom is in crazy intelligent, and then there's
Speaker 5: me and my dad.
Speaker 6: I honestly would rather do anything besides fuck around with electronics.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie to you. I am just not.
Speaker 6: I am like, let me be out in nature, let
Speaker 6: me be out in the garden. That's what we all
Speaker 6: did a lot of the times because we owned a
Speaker 6: tree farm. So we had a big we had five
Speaker 6: acres of trees that would be cut and harvested for
Speaker 6: you know, different kind of commercial landscaping and things like that.
Speaker 6: So we had a tree farm, plus we had a
Speaker 6: regular farm as well, and so I, you know, I
Speaker 6: did that. I was really big into basketball. I did
Speaker 6: a lot of racing stuff because I really enjoyed cars.
Speaker 6: My dad actually was. He was a huge guy that
Speaker 6: did a lot of detail work for the big hot
Speaker 6: rod shows all along the West coast, and so he
Speaker 6: did a lot of hot rods and things like that,
Speaker 6: and so I would go to tons of shows and
Speaker 6: stuff like that. So I didn't really grow up with
Speaker 6: electron I grew up with it, but I also have
Speaker 6: never really cared for it. Even as an adult, I
Speaker 6: could give a damn less about electronics. To be honest
Speaker 6: with you, I'd rather be outside in nature. That's where
Speaker 6: I'm at.
Speaker 2: No, I feel like you nowadays, for sure. But as
Speaker 2: a kid, I couldn't get enough of them video games.
Speaker 3: But it was also different as far as video games
Speaker 3: are concerned. So, like my parents would not allow us
Speaker 3: to have any kind of online access even on our computer.
Speaker 4: The chess game where you would play.
Speaker 2: Against someone from somewhere else on earth, is there a
Speaker 2: way you could message them or chat with them. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, well you're not playing it. That
Speaker 2: that was the jam.
Speaker 3: Like, if there was any way for internet access on
Speaker 3: a game, my parents were super against it. Meanwhile, my
Speaker 3: boy down the street was playing like Call of Duty
Speaker 3: on Xbox Live, and I was like, this is the
Speaker 3: most incredible thing fucking ever.
Speaker 5: When did Call of Duty come out? I thought that
Speaker 5: was like, honestly, in my twenties.
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, two thousand and four.
Speaker 5: So, okay, so I was in high school. So I
Speaker 5: was in high school when it came out.
Speaker 3: I remember a buddy mine's dad was super into it.
Speaker 3: Now we were doing something and we needed the TV
Speaker 3: and he's like, no, I can't pause this game. And
Speaker 3: I was like, what do you mean he can't pause
Speaker 3: the game. He's like, he's playing a game where if
Speaker 3: you pause it, you die, and I'm like, that makes
Speaker 3: no fucking sense. Yeah, on Xbox Lot, you can't pause
Speaker 3: the game if you're in alive, Like you'd be like
Speaker 3: pausing it in the middle of a gun fight in Fortnite,
Speaker 3: like there, there's no way you're you're gonna die.
Speaker 2: And it's like, I didn't understand this concept as a
Speaker 2: year old.
Speaker 6: My kid constantly tells me that he can't pause shit,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, you both ship you can pause.
Speaker 2: You cannot, well, sucking up cup. There you have it.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, on anything of the Live the Live Variety,
Speaker 3: there's no way of pausing it without ruining everything you've
Speaker 3: worked towards the entire time.
Speaker 5: Hm hmm, okay, I mean hey to each.
Speaker 2: Show speaking of pause, Samuel Blue.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so a loot.
Speaker 8: About the video game called was actually co named a
Speaker 8: model of a Medal of Honor Killer and that was
Speaker 8: of the of the guy that died along with his
Speaker 8: passing Jonas called the CEO of Call of Duddy. I thought, so,
Speaker 8: Medal Honor is the best I personally, I wish they'd
Speaker 8: come back for I wish they don't even have to
Speaker 8: do anything. Just put it from the PS two to
Speaker 8: modern day. Just keep it the same, yo, bring Jimmy
Speaker 8: Patterson back. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Frontline is good,
Speaker 8: and know that's okay, but that's not That's not the
Speaker 8: Medal of Honor for me. The one for me that
Speaker 8: actually made me fall in love with the Marine Corps
Speaker 8: is the Medal of Honor Rising Sun.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that was the second iteration of Medal of honor.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, matter of fact.
Speaker 8: Uh, Jacob, my fund, I need you to send me
Speaker 8: your address.
Speaker 7: I have something for you that I think you're gonna enjoy.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll fucking I'll send it your way, brother, without
Speaker 3: further ado.
Speaker 4: Actually go John.
Speaker 2: Then I was just gonna say what I meant by
Speaker 2: pause and then going to Sam was give your send off.
Speaker 4: Literally we have gone about three hours.
Speaker 3: Good Cult members, it is time to wrap up this
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Speaker 5: Yes we didn't say about Christmas at all.
Speaker 3: I mean we talked about in the beginning, but as
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