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Speaker 1: Let's see, we've got Jesse Rutstein and Caleb Dyer here

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from of course, uh Hatchet Acts and Saw Records. Hey guys, Hello, Hello, Hello,

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I learned how to say the name of your label

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without tripping over it. So yeah, I did my homework

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this time.

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Speaker 2: Just too many syllables.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, welcome back, guys. It's good to see you.

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Although you know, unfortunately I'm under some uh troubling circumstances

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because of the what happened recently in Nashua. We should probably,

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uh should probably talk about should we talk about that first?

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And I know there's another part to it we might

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circle back to at the end, but but you know,

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I'm sure people are tuning in wanting to know uh

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more about what happened and then the aftermath and how

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you're moving forward through that.

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Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, it's been it's it's been a crazy

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end to twenty five for us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorrowing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Last time we were here, we were talking about getting

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getting rolling with H and S and uh and we're

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still rolling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, some minor setback.

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Speaker 2: Train slowed down a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

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it's uh, you know, we're making the best of it.

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We're doing what we can.

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Speaker 1: So for those who don't know what happened exactly, I mean,

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obviously there was a there was a fire.

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Speaker 4: So there it's two streets Ash Street.

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Speaker 3: There was an apartment complex that caught fire, and there's

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rumors I don't want to get into like rumors of

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how it all happened. But what ended up happening was

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that fire, which absolutely destroyed this apartment building spread over

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to the warehouse where Tree Streets Inc. Was located. Tree

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Streets Inc. Is the studio that Hatchet Accident Saw works

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out of, ok and it's where we, you know, keep

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all of our equipment. It's where we do all the recording.

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My record was supposed to last time we were here,

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we were talking about my record dropping on December seventeenth,

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and obviously that didn't happen. So the fire spread over

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to the warehouse and it like was you know, engulfed

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in flames. It was a big story and it was

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just pretty it's it's just pretty crazy. We I I

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was literally down in the studio until about two am the.

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Speaker 4: The day of or the night before the fire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, working on the title track of the record, and.

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Speaker 4: I literally wrapped on it.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't wait to call Caleb and say, hey, it's done,

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ready for you, ready for you to step in, ready

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to master. And I went home around two in the morning.

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I had been working all day. And I got the

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call a couple hours later from somebody else that used

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to work in the studio. And it was six thirty

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in the morning. And this is a true story, six

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thirty in the morning. And I answered the phone and

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I'm like, I said to this kid, something something better

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beyond fire if you're calling the Surly, and he goes,

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I really.

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Speaker 4: Wish you didn't say that. And we get to the scene.

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Speaker 3: I got I got to the scene, I called Caleb,

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and when I got there, I just I just watched everything.

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Speaker 4: Everything was on fire.

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Speaker 3: Like it's a weird expression that we use all the time,

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everything's on fire, you know, but everything's everything was on fire.

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I had worked so hard, we had all worked so

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hard at this record Superhero Toys that was supposed to

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drop on December seventeenth. Yeah, and everything was on fire.

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And I call Caleb. I'm like, I don't get down here.

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I don't know what to do. First thing we did

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was round up the people that we knew might have

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been in the building. Nobody got severely hurt, which is

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which is the main focus on everything that we've done

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since this, this these few minutes that I'm talking about. Yeah,

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Connor Coburn from No More Blue, Tomorrow's Tom philbrook Ivan,

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too many to name, but we just made sure everybody

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was okay first, all right, everybody's okay. Now we can

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now we can start being sad, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the worst was like smoke inhalation with

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someone on one O eight or one ten ash. I

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think that was really Yeah, we're just just very fortunate

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that just everybody got Yeah, everyone was just.

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Speaker 1: That is that is lucky considering the magnitude of the fire,

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that that no one was under lave.

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Speaker 2: Property can be replaced life camp right, exactly right?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 1: So now so does that mean, like, is everything you

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worked on for the album? Is that? Is that all gone?

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Speaker 3: So this story is this story is like crazy because

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the last time we were here we were talking about

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how the album came to be. I had a turbulent

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I had a turbulent year, and then Caleb and I

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decided that we were gonna make the record. I turned

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everything around. I kept things positive, and I'm still keeping

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things positive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But the we were on the bottom floor, so everything

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that the only damage that we received was water damage

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because they stopped the fire at the top. So some

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of the other studios that were in the building they

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lost everything. The people who were in the apartment building

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they lost everything. Yeah, I lost or thought I lost

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my music. Oh so I am.

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Speaker 4: I completely was like, don't worry about me.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've done three benefit shows for the folks

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who have been displaced. We've raised over seven thousand dollars

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so far, between a solo show with me, a show

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at Peddler's with Connor, and then down at Bad Burger.

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They they hooked us up and we did a great

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show and we've raised so much money for the So

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I'm not accepting any donations or doing and he go

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fund me. I was really sad about my music because

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when we finally were able to get down there, the

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computer that everything was on was under three feet of water,

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and and some of it's backed up, some of it's not.

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But even the stuff that's backed up, like, there's no

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way we're going to be able to release a record,

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you know. Yeah, So and we didn't even know what

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was on the hard drive. It's literally been a week

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since our executive producer, Dave Patterson texted me and told

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me that the hard drives all set, everything is still there.

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We can still release the record and like like that.

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That's when I told people like you want to see

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me cry, That's that's what you're going to see me cry.

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I got my stuff back, Ye, I got my stuff back.

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We're not releasing the record. What we're going to do

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is re release the EP that we released in July.

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same approach that we were going to take at the record.

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We're gonna do CDs, shirts, stickers, maybe posters, and just

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get out and start playing. But instead of being ten songs,

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it's going to be five. And then we'll once we

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figure out a location to set up shop to start

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mixing the record, that's when we're going to go forward

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and start working on that. You know, Eleanor and Andre

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down at Terminus, they're volunteering some space. They've been instrumental,

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especially Eleanor, like what a person like ye, just instrumental

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in organizing the community to come together, and that is

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the biggest piece of all of this is that our

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music community came together for this like immediately, and I

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couldn't be I couldn't be more proud to be a

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part of it, you know what I mean. Like, there's

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so many different genres of music in this area, and

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that's what Hatchet Accent saw I really wanted to focus on,

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and that's what we wanted to do. We wanted to

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put everybody out there, and they came to our aid

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like immediately. So I'm very proud to say that that

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I'm a part of this southern New Hampshire music community because.

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Speaker 4: Because we're we're awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people showed up, man, Yeah, question absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Now what about music? Were you in the midst of

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working on anything else for any of the other artists

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associated with the label or we we.

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Speaker 2: Had been working on one it it kind of it

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was fallen through for for some reasons, but there was

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also more that was going to be coming with Santino

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that it just kind of started that that hadn't fallen through.

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literally weeks before the fire, We had just started and

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we had gotten tracks drum tracks on our self titled tune.

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there were some projects that that were but but still

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still it started. In fact, you can go and you

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can check out the Facebook reels that I think Paul

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published of him doing the the Ambulance sound with the guitar. Yeah,

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it's just just some fun stuff we were doing with

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that tune. But you know, we had stuff that was

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in the works that I think really would have knocked

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your socks. It still will. I mean, this week, we

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gotta you know, we gotta make the time and right

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now get in the real estates the big block. Dave

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and I Dave and I are we we're looking. We're

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scouting options. But it's kind of hard to replace what

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we are two things. We had the electricity included in

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the cost of the rent, Yeah, which I mean for

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a musician, holy crap. Yeah, was like, yeah, it's just

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good enough, we also had it twenty four loud down there,

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which is just I mean, what more can you ask for?

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of the day and night and and have power included

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in your rent.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like I would get I'd get out of

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work at nine, shoot down there and just be there

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all night working on the music, whether I'm working on

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one of the projects or.

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Speaker 4: My own stuff.

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Speaker 3: It was just it was too good to be true

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that space. But you know what, we learned a lot

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down there in the last In the last five years

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that I've been working with Caleb and Dave, I've learned

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so much about myself as a musician. I've learned how

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how it all goes together. And it's not easy, like

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you know, I mean, and I still like need Dave

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and Caleb to come down and do the mixes and

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stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: How do you put a song together? How do you

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put show together?

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Speaker 3: I grew so much as a musician because one fifteen Vine,

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I've been a musician since I was seven. I'm forty

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five years old, and in the last five years, I

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I can now be like really proud of who I

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am as a musician, And a lot of it has

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to do with Caleb, Dave and one fifteen Vine. Yeah,

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no doubt a brief detour, because I truly don't think

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we're just Jesse myself. Dave even just dead like other

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bands in the basement, dead time, you know, good good

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friends and folks and incredible musicians. We're just one small piece,

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small recent piece of the history of that building in

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the music community. I don't really, I don't think people

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truly understand.

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Speaker 2: It goes back decades. Oh really that yeah, that that

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that building in the like early two thousands, it was

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the home for a bunch of bands. I mean one

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one band. I remember when I was in middle school

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and going into high school. There's a band Voyagers, my

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buddy Eddie and uh Rusty the uh the guitar players

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and then trying to remember but they I mean Eddie,

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Speaker 2: And you know now now he's he's married, he's got

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a got a kid, and he's doing great. He's kind

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of gotten out of music. But I mean that that

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whole building for decades was a generator of original music

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of you know, people doing it honestly, you know, for

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for real, and and and it's it's truly it's hard

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to explain to people that we were just the latest

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custodian exactly. That's it. We we were, we were just

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the most recent and and I mean I I remember,

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uh some years ago some guys, I think they're from

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the New York area, but they had a studio all

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the way up here in Nashville in that building. Perspective

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Speaker 4: They were a.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic band, and they had an incredible studio that was

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were so many, even people who weren't affected by the fire,

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but just so much music came out of that building.

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Speaker 3: Over the last five Over the last five years, when

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I say, oh yeah, I'm at one fifteen Vine, I

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could be talking to some some band that I was

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playing with in Conquered Oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah. The Warehouse, oh yeah, that everybody.

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Speaker 2: It gained, It gained a notoriety of just yeah special place. Yeah,

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musicians come out of there. And you know, if you

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if you had the gumption, if you're really were putting

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in time and really doing it, you could do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't pretty on the outside, but when when you

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walk through those doors, it was just any given day,

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I'd be going down to work on one of my

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love songs and I'd hear a hardcore band rehearsing upstairs, yeah,

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and and it there's just something about that. And then

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you'd run out to the guys that everybody's going to

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their car and stuff, Oh, you guys sound good, And

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then this hardcore band'll be like, oh, I heard you

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mixing downstairs. This sounds good, you know. And and just

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like the amount of respect we all had for each other.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was really like the community within a community. Yeah, yeah,

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for sure, just you know, and and that hopefully that

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community will I mean, it's clearly remaining strong. I mean

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the bad the bad Yeah. The Bad Burger benefit was

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just it was incredibly well attended, you know, and just uh,

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it's it's very heartwarming to see it.

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Speaker 3: That was That was a fun show too, because I

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I had just I didn't even know Ash she does

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the booking down there, and I saw that she was

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putting on a show this is in with within like

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two days of the fire, and so I shot her message, shoot,

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you know, shoot your shot.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, my name is Jesse Rudstein.

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Speaker 3: I'm a member of the community that that was affected.

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I'd like to get on the bill just knowing that

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it was a benefit show, and she's like, yeah, sure,

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she threw my logo on the poster, and funny thing like,

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apparently my logo looks like everybody else's logo that was

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on the poster. But they were all hardcore metal bands

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and yeah there's me singing my love songs some serious.

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Speaker 4: It was awesome, that's cool. We had a really cool show.

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Speaker 3: But but I with everything that was going on, I

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didn't really have a chance to check out all the

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other bands that were on the bill. And then when

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I did, I'm like, oh no, I mean myself on

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a hardcore show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Knowing the other bands were great. The whole show is very,

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like Caleb said, was very well attended.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very well and people really did show out.

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Speaker 1: Good, good, excellent. If you're just joining us, we've got

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Jesse I's seen in Caleb Diler tire sorry from Hatchet

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Asensaw Records. See now I can say the name Hatchet

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Accessaw Records, but I can't say your last name apparently,

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but uh yeah, we were talking about the fire at

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one fifteen Vine that was the address.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also want to wait in one ten ash.

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I think that time. Yeah, at least in the music community.

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We we focused on one fifteen. Fine, but there were

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there were like thirty people this placed from there.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the scale of it was just yeah, that's awful.

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Speaker 1: Remark remarkable though that in all that no one was

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seriously hurt or killed. I mean that's incredible. Yeah, with

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that many people, you know, early, well, what time was this?

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Speaker 3: Like six thirty was when I got the phone call? Yeah,

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I got there at about eight. Yeah, I called Caleb

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around seven. When I got down there, it was like,

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where's Ivan, Where's Connor, where's Tom?

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Speaker 4: You know? Yeah, people, where is everybody? Is everybody? Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And then so then I call Caleb and and of

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course it was the first really big snowstorm of the season.

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So yeah, then its dark snow. I'm sitting there like

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watching the fire department. This is a five alarm fire.

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So hats off to I'm gonna I'm gonna remember them

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all this time. Uh, Lowell, Nashville, Hollis, Tingsboro, and Hudson. Yeah,

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so those are all the fire departments. I think that's right.

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If if I missed a fire department, sorry, guys.

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Speaker 2: I think Merrimac. Also, I think there's six something like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the first hats off to the first

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responders for sure, but I'm watching it and I'm like,

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and you know, my mind is always going, I'm an overthinker,

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and I'm like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, maybe the snow will help.

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Speaker 3: Ye, frost and water falling from the sky, and then

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all of a sudden, there's all these flames everywhere, and

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these guys like like, there's some great photos and not

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they're not great photos, but some really uh captivating photos

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of of like this guy on one ladder and this

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guy on another ladder, like those guys one of the

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Actually there were three injuries, minor injuries, two people from

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the apartment building and one The only other injury was

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to a member of one of the fire departments. Okay,

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and everybody but like everybody's okay, No nobody got seriously injured.

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But those were the only reported injuries throughout the whole thing,

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so I would be uh, I got to say, thanks

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to the fire departments.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, strictly the fire departments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But as soon as I remember it distinctly, as soon

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as the scene was kind of cleared, I went home.

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I as soon as I got to the scene and

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that fire burning, I was just kind of like, I

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don't need to be here. I don't need to watch

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my my life burn away. Yeah, I just went home

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and I was like, all right, well, time to make

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some plans, like what are we going to do about it?

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Speaker 4: I couldn't take my eyes off it. And then so,

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well you gave me a call at what time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when it exactly it was, but it

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was sometime the afternoon, and you're like, hey, they're gonna

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be letting people into the building, and you were. You

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ended up being one of the first people in the

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building to tell a little bit about that. And then

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I'll explain when I got there and what I did

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to because you.

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Speaker 4: So you want to you want me to tell a story.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean tell like, whre's another shot down in there?

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Like you saw you saw it in the original state,

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you saw it before even I.

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Speaker 3: Got I was I was the first one in the building.

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So so we're sitting there, everything's burning, and the news

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crews show up and our good friend Connor Coburn, really

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close friend of mine, he lead singer for No More

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Blue tomorrows Uh. He's the one who put on the

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benefit that's raised them house money for the victims so far.

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But he sees the news crew show up and he

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looks over and he goes, Jesse, there's some cameras over there.

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I'm like, all right, I'll see you guys later. And

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I went and I did some interviews and on local

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and national national news about the fire, which was on

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the street right next to the building. And so that happened.

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Caleb's like, I'm out of here. You know, everybody's kind

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of dispersed. One of the great coincidences about the location

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of this place is that my ex wife lives right

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down the road. So even throughout all these years, I'll

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be at the studio. Then I, you know, see my kids.

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My kids would just come down and jam. You know,

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my sons are they play and you know they would

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they would you know, I would be able to just

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run over there, have dinner and go back and work

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on stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nice little coincidence.

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Speaker 3: So I set up shop at my ex wife's house.

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Speaker 4: I called her. Obviously she knew what was going on,

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she could see it from her wind.

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Speaker 3: And I was kind of like gonna be the point

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person to be able to walk down there and see

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what was going on throughout the day. So at around

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eleven am, after everybody had left, we had some food.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if it was.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those days where it wasn't lunch,

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it wasn't breakfast, it was just we have food. And

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I walked down there again with my son and we

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went to go check it out and I saw the police,

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I'm sorry, the fire chief, and he brought me in

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the building with him. This is after the fire was out,

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and I was like, I just I just want to

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know what's going on downstairs. And he walked down half

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the stairs and he goes, there's like three four feet of.

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Speaker 2: Water down there.

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Speaker 3: That's how much That's how much water it took to

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put out this fire. But we're in the basement of

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a warehouse, so there was nowhere for the water to go.

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Speaker 4: So that I called.

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Speaker 3: Caleb, I let him know that, and I go back

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to go back to the point. And a couple hours

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later I walked down the street again. This time there

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was police tape up, like they had put like tape up,

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and this is the same street I had been walking

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down all day. There's actually a video of me and

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my son coming back from that visit where the Mayor

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of Nashville was taking a video saying how tragic it

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is on this street.

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Speaker 4: But now there's tape there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really think anything of it, and I walked

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around and Officer Jonathan Earnhardt decided to start yelling at me. Rightfully,

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so I crossed the tape. Sure, sure, I did a

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bad thing, he said, But but he was a meantiing

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I'm gonna rest you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you probably weren't even thinking about it, right,

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It's not like you consciously did that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just walked the route that I've been walking

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for five years. Yea.

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Speaker 3: And I like he's he's threatening to arrest me, and

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I'm like, I'm like, dude, seriously, Like I am just

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like one of the victims here.

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Speaker 4: I'm just checking in. I was literally in the.

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Speaker 3: Building with the fire chief a little while ago, and

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he's yelling at me and doing his little cop thing,

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and I'm I'm not nice. I'm not nice when people.

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I've always had a problem with authorities. Sure, sure, but

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at this at this point in the game, like.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't doing anything.

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Speaker 3: I literally did a news I was on TV on

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the place I was standing, so I didn't think it

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was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And you were dealing with a lot emotionally, right, I mean,

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this is a traumatic thing.

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Speaker 4: I am losing my mind not knowing what is going on.

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Speaker 3: So I walked back to my ex wife's house and

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I told her what happened to.

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Speaker 4: Hanging with my son.

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Speaker 3: We're playing Minecraft, you know what I mean, just just

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trying to forget about what's going on. Finally four o'clock

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rolls around and I'm like, you know what, I like

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what Caleb did early in the morning, Like I'm calling

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it today. We'll figure all this out. Nobody needs me either,

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so and I I didn't you know, dried. I had

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to get an uber to get home, so I ordered

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my uber, but because of the police vehicles on the street,

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the uber couldn't get in.

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Speaker 4: So I walk down Ash. I walked three blocks.

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Speaker 3: I walked down Ash around back to Vine to you know,

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to not cross the line, because I complied when he

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told me not to cross the line. And I get

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to the building and he's on the other side of

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the building because he was literally parked on the other

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side of the building. There's a couple of cop cars

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there and another officer was like, where.

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Speaker 4: Are you going. I'm like, I'm just trying to catch

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my uber. He's over there. Can I go? And he's like, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 3: And then I noticed people going in and out of

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the building. The cops had started letting some of the musicians,

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and I started seeing my friends going in and out

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of the building. Ye. So I turned to the officer respectfully,

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I'm like, you're letting people in there.

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Speaker 4: This is my building.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Keep in mind, I've been calling this my building for

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five years. It doesn't belong to me, but you know,

474
00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:41,480
it's like say in my house.

475
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,759
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, of course belongs to Hinch Crowdy, right right.

476
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 4: So the officers like, yeah, you're one of the musicians. Yeah,

477
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,359
I can go ahead.

478
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: So I cancel my uber and I go in and

479
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:55,880
we start ripping guitars out of there. Like I'm on

480
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,680
the stairs. These other guys are all wading through the water.

481
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,920
They're giving me the computer they're give Devin was like,

482
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,519
what do you need. I'm like the computer, you know,

483
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:06,519
get me the strat, get me the this case, this case,

484
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,759
brown case, you know. And we're just pulling instruments up

485
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,160
for about a half an hour, and the pitch black.

486
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 4: I'm soaked.

487
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,519
Speaker 3: Everybody's you know, and I cancel the uber and my

488
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720
dad called me and he's like, hey, do you want

489
00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:22,160
some help. I'm like yeah, because because he was out

490
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,880
and whatever. So he drove down, parked behind the officers,

491
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,400
and I was just gonna start loading up some guitars

492
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,880
into his car. And the first guitar that I grabbed

493
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,359
was the Stratocaster and it belongs to Caleb.

494
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 4: Well, well, it belongs to the studio, doesn't belong to me.

495
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: I was the one about it. I didn't grab my

496
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:45,759
guitar first. This Strata is on every track. It's a

497
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,839
very important sentimental piece, but it's also one of the

498
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,720
best guitars in the studio. So I grabbed that one first,

499
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,240
mainly because like, carrying two was like carrying one hundred pounds.

500
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.

501
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:03,079
Speaker 3: And then I'm carrying it towards my I see my dad,

502
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,400
see the cop cars, and then all of a sudden,

503
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,160
I hear where's your uber? And it's the officer from

504
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,079
earlier in the day, Jonathan Earnhardt. He he starts yelling

505
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:18,599
at me. He's like, where's your uber. I'm like, dude,

506
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,759
I canceled my uber you're letting people in the building.

507
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,240
I'm at this point, I'm like I don't want to

508
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:26,839
deal with this. I can feel my blood getting hotter.

509
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:29,759
And he goes, you lied to him and you said

510
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:32,119
you own this building, and you lied and you said

511
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,559
you were getting I'm like, dude, please, oh yeah. It

512
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:38,359
was crazy. And he looked. He literally looked at me.

513
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,039
He's like, listen, I've had a really long day.

514
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:45,039
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

515
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,279
Speaker 4: So this is yeah my blood.

516
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 3: This is where my blood went from boiling to just

517
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,079
like overflowing the pot. And and I was like, you've

518
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,720
had a long day.

519
00:26:58,759 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: And I said, and I started.

520
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: Runn my mouth and I shouldn't have run my mouth.

521
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,440
And when I run my mouth, it runs. And then

522
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:06,400
so he's like, you're on body cam right now, I'll

523
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,359
arrest you right now. He had no reason to arrest me.

524
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:08,519
Speaker 2: I was.

525
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,519
Speaker 4: I wasn't threatening.

526
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:12,039
Speaker 3: So what I did was I leaned the stratocaster case

527
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,319
on my leg and I put my hands up and

528
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,559
I was like, go ahead and arrest me. If you're

529
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,480
gonna arrest me, go ahead and just do it. Like

530
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000
he had no reason to, so he couldn't. And he

531
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,400
grabbed the guitar, and he threw it toward my father's car. Oh,

532
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,160
in defense of this officer, mister officer Earnhardt, I will say,

533
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,240
in his defense, he didn't know what he was throwing. No,

534
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,279
Like he shows up to a you know, cops have

535
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,640
a hard job. They show up to like like scenes

536
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,559
all the time. Like this guy's getting thrown out of

537
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:45,880
his house. Grab his suitcase and get out of here,

538
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:48,519
you know. So So in his defense, he didn't know

539
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:50,839
what he was throwing, but he threw. Doesn't make it okay, though,

540
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:54,519
And that's the point of this story. So he throws

541
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,720
the guitar and that's when I lost my mind. He's

542
00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:00,400
still in the air, and I'm now I'm like all

543
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,960
the things that you could say to a cop that

544
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,519
you're not supposed to say, I'm saying, but I'm non threatening,

545
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:11,400
like I wasn't doing anything wrong. And so finally, thank

546
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,559
god it was my dad who was there, because because

547
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:16,200
I would have ended up in cuffs out there. He

548
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,279
was like, he grabbed the guitar, he put it in

549
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,160
the car. He got me in the car and he's like,

550
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,440
let's just go. I'm like, I have other stuff to

551
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,519
get and the cops like, you're not going back in

552
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:24,960
that building.

553
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,759
Speaker 4: It's crime scene.

554
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:32,039
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're other people, they're literally literally Connor, Connor, I, everybody,

555
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,799
whoever else.

556
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: He hadn't shown up yet.

557
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: No, I showed up maybe about an hour after this

558
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:37,960
all happened.

559
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,039
Speaker 4: I called him. I went home, like, I'm like screaming.

560
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,599
Speaker 2: Caleb's like, Jesus, yes I know. I'm just like now

561
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:47,720
I have to now go and get all of the

562
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,880
rest of the time as much as I could carry

563
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,200
it out.

564
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying like I believe that Officer Earnhardt

565
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,559
caused the scene, but but I didn't.

566
00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: But I was very much part of the scene. So

567
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:01,519
I get home, I opened the case.

568
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:03,359
Speaker 3: I noticed at the back of I got to the

569
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,000
back of the neck, the guitar is damaged and it's

570
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:09,200
still being looked at.

571
00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:12,279
Speaker 2: It could have been water damaged, but it's it's very

572
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:17,279
likely a combination of both. So I took it and

573
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,759
this this is a shameless plug. This is a shameless plug.

574
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:21,599
And then then I'll talk about the salvage operations.

575
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me, but before you do that, sure, I

576
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:28,559
noticed the guitar was damaged, so I did the right thing,

577
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:32,000
and I filed police report against this officer for damaging

578
00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:34,960
our property. And I get a phone call two days

579
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,759
later from what I just think is a supervisor.

580
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:38,359
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

581
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: I was talking to the captain of the National Police

582
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,039
Department and he told us to come. He asked me

583
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:45,720
to come down, and so I immediately called Caleb, grab

584
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:49,839
the evidence. Let's go, because because Caleb's first like this

585
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,079
was an impact that it could Yeah, he'll he'll.

586
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,759
Speaker 4: Tell you all about how the wood is on the

587
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:55,319
guitar and all that.

588
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: But we get to the police department and I said,

589
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,160
I hope you don't mind I brought U. I brought

590
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,559
my partner with me, and he goes, well, I would

591
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:05,519
have liked to heads up. And then we sit down

592
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:08,079
in the chair. What this guy thought was gonna be

593
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,160
like he thought he was gonna reprimand me for yelling

594
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,400
and being a bad boy. Oh but and he was like,

595
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,039
you know, he was gonna throw a couple bucks because

596
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,880
they do have funds in police departments, like if they

597
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,079
have to kick in a door, yeah, during a fire

598
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:23,359
or during during a scene, that the state or the

599
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,559
city or the state will take care of, like the

600
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,240
door hinges for the landlord and stuffy. So he thought

601
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,680
it was just gonna be like a little okay, you

602
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:34,880
shouldn't have been mean, and we're gonna like pay for something. Yeah,

603
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,240
that's not what happened, though. I was like, no, no, no,

604
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,400
your officer threw my guitar. He goes, well, I saw

605
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,160
you on the bodycam footage and you weren't being nice.

606
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,640
And I was like, I know it wasn't being nice,

607
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,440
but my hands were in the air. I was not threatening.

608
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:50,720
But did you happen to catch on the body cam

609
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:52,480
footage your officer throwing the guitar?

610
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: He's no, I didn't see that. I haven't talked to

611
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,160
the officer yet.

612
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,839
Speaker 3: He just kept stumbling over himself because he thought he

613
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,519
was just gonna slap some stupid long hair musician on

614
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,200
the wrist, of course, but instead he got me, so

615
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,720
I started unloading on him, not again, not knowing he was.

616
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: I just thought he was like.

617
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Supervisor, that was not smart. I know, I think

618
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,839
I think you've assumed too much of Officer Welsh.

619
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

620
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: In any event, Officer Captain Welsh continuously told me to

621
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:24,039
not say that his officer was lying, but if his

622
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,079
officer said that he didn't throw the guitar. He's lying,

623
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:28,559
you know, Like lying is very simple. If if you

624
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,839
know something is the truth and you say the opposite, right,

625
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:34,160
then that's a lie. So I kind of got into

626
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,680
it with Welsh and they're they're now can his head dropped.

627
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,920
He's like, this is not how I thought the conversation

628
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:43,440
was going to go. Now I have to do an investigation.

629
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,920
And he's, you know, given the whole you know, Officer

630
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,000
earn Hard, he's a good guy, of course. I'm like,

631
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:50,839
I'm like, look man, he's a good guy, and he

632
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,039
made a mistake. This whole time, I've recognized that it

633
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,960
was an accident. Sure, but if I hit your car

634
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:00,680
tomorrow with my car and it's my fault, I have

635
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:02,559
to pay for that accident. It was a reason they

636
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:04,960
call it for calling an accent. We just want the

637
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,440
guitar replays. That's it. I hope they do the.

638
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: Right thing repair replaced that. Yeah, I I don't I

639
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,880
don't really care which it is.

640
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,119
Speaker 3: But but then I brought Caleb with me and he

641
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:16,200
talked to the this is where Caleb can.

642
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: Get So we we had the meeting with Officer welch.

643
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,880
I I'm of the opinion it probably could have gone better,

644
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,720
but it's all good man, And and you know, I

645
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,759
I just I explained to him. I was like, I

646
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:35,839
checked out the guitar, and I was like, some of this, Yeah,

647
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,559
the glue was loosened up by the water, but some

648
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,000
of it to me kind of looks like impact that case.

649
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,200
And I mean the case showed a little bit of

650
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160
scuffing on the top where the headstock would have been

651
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,279
in the case, and that's probably the crappiest parts the

652
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,400
thing to land on. But yeah, it's a Strats, a

653
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240
bolt neck guitar, and it's got a skunk stripe. So

654
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,119
it's got the piece of wood on the back of

655
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,359
the neck that contains the truss rod in there, and

656
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:10,200
that piece had delaminated and kind of twisted a little bit.

657
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:14,240
And usually if and I've seen some other flood damage

658
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:17,440
strats and Telly's that have the skunk stripe, and usually

659
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,759
what happens is the glue gets loosened up a little

660
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:24,039
bit and it usually uniformly delaminates on one side or

661
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,720
the other of the skunk stripe. Just yeah, because the

662
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,799
pressure of the wood pushing against itself. It just wants

663
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,960
to uniformly delaminate. It had kind of twisted in there,

664
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,440
and I'm looking at it and I'm like, man that

665
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,000
you know, yeah, water loosened it up, But I don't think.

666
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,319
I don't think that that neck movement happened, but just

667
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,480
by water water doing it, because I mean, I knew

668
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,519
the guitar. The neck was pretty stable on the thing,

669
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:55,519
and strangely, even with the impact the next stage barely stable,

670
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:58,839
like the guitar wasn't in tune, but it definitely it

671
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,240
definitely bare weird, Like I mean, the body of the

672
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,640
guitar is totally fine. It's just the neck, Yeah, just

673
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,840
the neck that got a little bit screwed. But yeah, yeah,

674
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,559
the guitar repair, Yeah, I just just repaired. And I

675
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,559
took it up And this is a shameless plug to

676
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:16,360
the music text here in Manchester. They're great, great guys,

677
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,960
do awesome work. I took it up to Doug McCormick

678
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,280
and seth oh.

679
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I've known Doug a long time.

680
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Doug. Doug's fantastic.

681
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

682
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: And and Doug wasn't the one who looked at the

683
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,960
strat really he he's going to handle another restoration project.

684
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,039
It's actually the second time he's taking on this this guitar,

685
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:40,440
because it's the second time it's been in total disrepair unfortunately.

686
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,880
But the the fender, he uh or Seth looked at

687
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,639
the fender and he was like, yeah, we can at

688
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,480
the very word, you know, at the very worst, we'll

689
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,679
just pop a new neck on it. Yeah, and then

690
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,960
that'll be fine. And I'm sure he'll find a neck

691
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:56,800
that's like, you know, within ninety percent similar.

692
00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:57,199
Speaker 4: To to it.

693
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: The one thing that we'll kind of suck about that

694
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:03,119
we won't have the uh, the serial number on it.

695
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,360
It was a it was a two thousand, two thousand neck,

696
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:08,800
and you know, even if we replaced the neck, it

697
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,440
permanently devalues the instrument. It's no longer you know, I

698
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,199
mean that was it. Literally in twenty twenty five, that

699
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,440
guitar became a VINTAGEY guitar twenty five, you know, crazy, Yeah,

700
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,760
it's really really weird. I bought it a couple of

701
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,679
years ago, you know, just as a used strat, just

702
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,280
because the studio needed a strat. We needed something that

703
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,320
was serviceable and was gonna last a long time.

704
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, got on every track. Really, it's every one of

705
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:36,840
my tracks.

706
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, a ton of tunes. I can't think of one song,

707
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Yeah that I didn't. I mean, the strat is the

708
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,760
most first stile guitar in the history of guitars.

709
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: Arguably I disagree.

710
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:51,119
Speaker 2: With it well of course, but I mean it's most

711
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,280
most certainly is one of one of the most iconic.

712
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,280
I mean every you know, if you've ever heard Sweet

713
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,960
Home Alabama, you've heard of Stratocaster.

714
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a picture. Jimmy Hendrick's right there with.

715
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you're right.

716
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,199
Speaker 4: You're right.

717
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: Some of the most iconic songs you've ever heard. I

718
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,960
recorded on one of them. And you know, I'm not

719
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:14,599
even really a strat guy. Neither of us are. We

720
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,840
just we just need one in the studio, you know.

721
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, we have Jesse Rutstein and

722
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:24,199
Caleb Dire. I almost sit it again, whatever, I just

723
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,280
say Jesse and Caleb from records.

724
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 4: So I didn't mean to we didn't. I'm sorry.

725
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 3: No, I don't mean to get so off on that

726
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,800
part of the story, because that is such a minuscule

727
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,679
piece of this puzzle. Yeah, we just hope Nashvilla PD

728
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,719
does the right thing, because I'm doing a lot of

729
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,079
shows right now, and like the Bad Burger show that

730
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:51,280
came out like they they just came out swinging. They

731
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,039
don't they're not even they weren't even really associated with us.

732
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,719
And he came out swinging, and then Peddlers came out,

733
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,199
and then San Francisco Kitchen and Nashua. So between those

734
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,800
three shows alone, we've done over seven thousand dollars. Yeah,

735
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,039
and uh, you can donate through the Salvation Army, just

736
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:15,880
so everybody knows. Eleanor from Terminus New Hampshire Underground set

737
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,880
up a link where people can donate and between our

738
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:24,480
contributions and people that have been coming to the shows,

739
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,159
and we've raised all this money and we have a

740
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,880
really big one coming up on February, February seventh, and

741
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,639
and that's going to be at the Backstreet Bar and Grill.

742
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,840
That's going to be like an all day festival style

743
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,719
with some really great bands to be announced. So we

744
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,760
haven't gotten confirmation on every band, but we do know

745
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,360
that obviously I'm going to be there, The Faith and

746
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:49,679
Band is going to be there. No More Blue Tomorrow's

747
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,760
is going to be there, and and and if I'm

748
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,639
I'm missing I know I'm missing people and I'm sorry

749
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:54,719
dead Harrison.

750
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm wearing it. Yeah, shirt nice. They're going to be

751
00:37:58,039 --> 00:37:59,679
down there too. I would love to get that.

752
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:00,679
Speaker 2: I'm on that bill.

753
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're working with them. And then on the is

754
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,840
it the sixteenth this month or seventeenth? See I had

755
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,400
it already the sixteenth? Uh lazy who I am is

756
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,519
putting on a show at Photies and she's having me

757
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:18,880
come down and we're going to do a show at

758
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Photis that weekend also to benefit So excellent. The thing is, like,

759
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:27,559
I just I really want to focus on because I'm

760
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:32,519
not accepting any donations. Jesse rudstein Brand is not accepting

761
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:33,400
any donations.

762
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 4: No gofundmes. I didn't lose what other people lost, right.

763
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: You know, we we are indirectly, we are taking donations.

764
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,719
If you would like to donate Tree Streets, yes, if

765
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,159
you If you would like to donate to the effort

766
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,920
that we're putting on, it's through a Zephi link. Okay,

767
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:53,320
not not a go the gofundmes that are out there,

768
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,639
and please do donate to those as well if you

769
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:59,599
are able. Those are all to benefit individual musicians. That

770
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,960
we're in the building or bands or what have you.

771
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,320
But the the only one, the only formal operation was us.

772
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,119
We were the only one that had like some formal

773
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:14,719
governance structure in any way, shape or form, And so

774
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,559
we're trying to use that nonprofit status to receive donations,

775
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:20,719
try to help people who donate to us, give you

776
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,679
a tax receipt, you know, help you outcome tax time.

777
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,800
But you know, uh so if you if you want

778
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,840
to donate, we've got a zephy link we can point

779
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,039
you to that. You can find it not only through

780
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,039
Tree Streets stuff, but you can also find it through

781
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,440
New Hampshire Underground and Ellen Orchishu was the one who

782
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,960
set it up, but that any money given to that

783
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,039
benefits Tree Streets Incorporated, which is David Patterson myself and

784
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:46,960
where you know, if if you want to see where

785
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,440
all the money's going, well, you know we're publishing that.

786
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: So excellent good but yeah, it's we're doing we're doing

787
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,280
some good, you know, and and it stinks that we

788
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:57,760
have to.

789
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: That's like, that's do Sorry, I'm getting like I wanted

790
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,679
to release my record and start gigging in twenty twenty

791
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,840
six to support it. Yeah, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait,

792
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:13,760
and a little bit of a delay. Well, but the

793
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,480
amount of exposure that I'm getting from this fire is

794
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:20,320
probably more than I would have got from the record.

795
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,119
So I'm not trying to I'm not trying to capitalize

796
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,920
on a horrible thing. I just it feels good to

797
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:29,239
do right by the folks, absolutely, you know.

798
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: And I just wish I didn't have to do that because.

799
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:35,079
Speaker 2: They they It's strange how the world works.

800
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 4: It really is, man.

801
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,159
Speaker 2: I mean, we just you know, but we keep on

802
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,599
keeping on, just.

803
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,079
Speaker 3: Keep it, keeping it all positive and looking looking to

804
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,320
the future. Hatchet Action and Saw is not dead.

805
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 4: We just burned. We just got burned. On a positive note.

806
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,599
Speaker 2: On a positive note, I have happy news to report

807
00:40:54,679 --> 00:41:00,480
about the equipment. So, as Jesse articulated earlier, we really

808
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,880
didn't suffer any fire damage. In the basement. It's pretty

809
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,000
much all water, so there was a lot of stuff

810
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:09,519
that was submerged. However, one thing that is pretty good

811
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:12,599
about some of these old electronics is that they're actually

812
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,119
fairly resilient water damage, especially if you just let it

813
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:21,679
dry out for a whole long time. So, yeah, the

814
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:27,199
computer was toast, which sucks. However, the SSDs, we were

815
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,079
able to rip them out of the computer and process

816
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:34,119
that information onto a new machine excellent. So there's an

817
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:36,079
immediate win. That's why we're going to be able to

818
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,199
re release or release anything that we will be able

819
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,960
to do come this March. In addition to that, I've

820
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,079
been going through test and amplifiers. I just last night

821
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:50,639
played a gig with a V four B that we

822
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,599
had down there, very very nice base amp costs quite

823
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,440
a bit of money, and two by fifteen, a vintage

824
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,480
acoustic two by fifteen cab based cab, and that base

825
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:06,519
rig absolutely slams. And that head was totally completely submerged,

826
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:10,199
no kidding, totally submerged water, totally underwater when I when

827
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,719
I grabbed it out of the basement, there were at

828
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,679
least three inches of water on top of where the

829
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,880
handle was. Oh my god, you know, yeah, so it

830
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,519
totally submerged in that amp. When I turned it on

831
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,440
yesterday before I went to or I should say two

832
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:28,199
days ago testing it for yesterday. When I played the gig,

833
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:29,679
it just fired up.

834
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,679
Speaker 4: That's amazing, fired.

835
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: Right up, and and man it you know, thumped all

836
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,400
the same that's incredible. And I'm expecting that most of

837
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,800
the amplifiers, given that I've given them about four weeks

838
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,920
to dry out, most of the amplifiers I think are

839
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,760
going to turn on. I haven't tested them all. I've

840
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,000
tested the the an amplifier that we literally bought in

841
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:54,599
three days before the fire.

842
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:56,679
Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, yeah.

843
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: It was a nineteen sixty eight La Fayette is a

844
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:01,760
nice old vintage jamp. I bought it out in Swansea

845
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,960
off of a guy who was an AMP technician, and

846
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,039
he knew what he had, but he was just like, yeah,

847
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,280
I'm willing to I'm willing to let this go and

848
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,000
and go to go to a good home. And I

849
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:13,159
had put it down there, I had, I had play

850
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,760
tested it, and you know, and then the fire happens

851
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,039
and I'm thinking, I hope that thing survives. The way

852
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:23,719
that the amp is designed, it's like taller than it

853
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,360
is wide, so the amp never actually saw water. Actually

854
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,480
fire didn't. The speakers did. The lower speakers saw water,

855
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:38,440
but the actual amp was totally untouched. And I that

856
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,280
was one of the first amps that I tested and

857
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,840
it just fired right up. There's a lot of stuff

858
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,239
like that. Some stuff that's a little more questionable. Unfortunately,

859
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:52,760
both of my keyboards were totally submerged even in their

860
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,559
road cases. The b X three, which is a vintage

861
00:43:56,679 --> 00:44:02,519
eighties like Cord BX three very it's yeah right, literally

862
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:07,199
can't be replaced. They stopped making them, and it can

863
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,920
find what it costs more than yeah, yeah we should

864
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,159
be spending on yeah, more than what we should be

865
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:15,880
spending on that. And that thing got soaked and it's

866
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,719
still buried in rice right now. Yeah, so I'm gonna

867
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,920
have to go and vacuum that all.

868
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: Oh so in theory there might be hope still, so so.

869
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:25,559
Speaker 4: No matter, that seems to be the theme.

870
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's it's miraculous that all these things are surviving.

871
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: I followed all of the procedures and protocols for for

872
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,760
salvage and electronics. Man, so there's there's a high likelihood

873
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,599
that it will turn on, okay, even if it doesn't

874
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:44,079
work one hundred percent. Because this thing was built in

875
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,920
like nineteen eighty three in Japan. There was actually some

876
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:50,000
Japanese person that point to point wired this whole thing,

877
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:54,960
so you know, it's not built like a modern PCBU

878
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,960
board equipment. So it's it's it's definitely only salvageable no

879
00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:03,000
matter what. It's a matter of how much money do

880
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:06,599
you want to sink repairing it. But those sorts of

881
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:13,320
things are worth putting it into. The The other major

882
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,199
thing which I got a shout out to my my father,

883
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,079
Mitch Dyer. He he came down in a couple of

884
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,119
days and he helped lug out the HAM and B

885
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,039
three that we had down there, and that that if

886
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:28,159
if I mean, if listeners out there, no ham and

887
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,519
B three under normal circumstances, generally takes about four people

888
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,880
to move it safely, and to have one that's water

889
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,079
logged and all kinds of screwed up. Yeah, it was rough. However,

890
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:45,000
because my father is a mechanical genius, we basically were

891
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:47,800
able to do it with two people. Yeah. The way

892
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,239
we rigged it up, you know, we locked on the

893
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,800
tone wheel and did all we had to do to

894
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,679
get ready to move. But we we rigged up a

895
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,840
chain fall and we just we we took in the building.

896
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,360
There's some four inch cap iron pipe that's just like

897
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,639
hanging for for drain lines and stuff. Yeah, just old

898
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,840
old cast iron pipe. It's stuff that guys wouldn't use today.

899
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,920
But it was perfect for us because we could rig

900
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,480
up all kinds of like toast wrapping and chain fall

901
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,039
up there and we could support the weight of this organ.

902
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:17,079
Just oh my god, that four inch cast iron pipe

903
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:17,440
with the hang.

904
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah wow.

905
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: So so it only took two of us to to

906
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,119
actually move it up and out. Do you have video

907
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:23,400
of that?

908
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,119
Speaker 4: Did you take video?

909
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? So we didn't take video, but we we we

910
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:30,800
got pictures of the rig and it kind of surprised

911
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,440
people because we did put out a call to help.

912
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,559
That morning, I put out a Facebook post like, hey,

913
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,559
if anyone has extra time this to make this safe,

914
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,599
you know, really even just a pair of eyes or

915
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:45,280
what have you. But but no, we we got it done,

916
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,920
just just the two of us. Amazing and yeah, we

917
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,239
we we absolutely did make it out of there with

918
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,320
that B three within a couple of days that that

919
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,239
that thing is uh, it's gonna get rebuilt. It's going

920
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,079
to go down. And here's another shameless plug to someone

921
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,840
who doesn't get nearly enough recognition in the Keys community,

922
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,119
Tyler dre Bick down in Somerville at Boss, Oregon. He's

923
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:14,000
actually originally from up here in New Hampshire and he

924
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:17,239
does incredible work. He's he's probably and I mean I

925
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,360
think he knows this. He's one of the foremost Hammond

926
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,960
organ techs in the world. He you know, he does

927
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:27,599
ham and teching for you know, touring act guy guys

928
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:32,519
in touring acts, you you know, and he's gonna be

929
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,320
the one who's gonna be taken on the job. I

930
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,079
get to deliver the organ to him at the end

931
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:40,519
of the month, end of January or maybe beginning. It

932
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:43,599
kind of depends on when his space exactly frees up.

933
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:47,199
Speaker 3: But one of the one of the most amazing things

934
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,519
about this situation that just landed in my lap five

935
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:55,199
years ago being a part of Tree Streets Incorporated, Uh,

936
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,119
not only just the support from Dave and Caleb, but

937
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,480
the fact that we had things like a Ham and

938
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:06,199
B three with a Leslie rotating cab at our fingertips. Nowadays,

939
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,320
when you hear organ in the song, if you hear

940
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,840
organ in the song, it's it's usually just like a

941
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,599
setting and it's fine, like that's what we do when

942
00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:18,519
we play live. But on Lost in It All featuring

943
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:21,519
Faith in the single that's the single that's uh that

944
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:24,960
we're trying to get rolling. Yeah, that's a real organ

945
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,159
on Dear Baby Gene, which which is a a what

946
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,599
didn't start as as a song that was going to

947
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:35,800
be prominently organ driven. It's a real hamm. And it's like,

948
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,800
it's like what raymn Zeric used on those Doors records.

949
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,559
Speaker 2: Well, no, he used a vox but yeah, stop correcting me.

950
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:47,079
Speaker 4: Not that wasn't it. That wasn't a B three.

951
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: No, No, he used a Vox Continental but no, kidding,

952
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:54,559
show my ignorance and a Fender Rhodes based baby. I

953
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:55,559
knew about the Fender room.

954
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: But in any event, it's the fact that we had

955
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:04,760
all these wonderful instruments and what Caleb and Dave put together.

956
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: It's if you build it, they will come, and I did.

957
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. But so so we.

958
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,679
Speaker 3: Dug into the computer computer's fried hard drive is okay

959
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,760
yet means we have all the stems for all the songs.

960
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,039
Speaker 4: Good.

961
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 3: And so the title track of the of the album

962
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,760
that was meant to be Superhero Toys and it's a

963
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,719
song about my son, my son's actually and they were

964
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,960
on the track, so I like, I don't want to

965
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,559
give too much away about the song. But at the

966
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:44,320
end of the song, we repeat the chorus and all

967
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,079
the kids are on it, and we do some like

968
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:50,719
Pink Floyd's style, like recordings in the background of kids,

969
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,880
like like stuff throughout the years. So but one thing

970
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,639
that was really special to me was Junior's my son.

971
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,760
He's twenty. He's a marine, so he's not around, and

972
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,840
he wanted to take I have my son Jackson on

973
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,840
the track. The last verse is about when he's born

974
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,320
and how me and Junior now like it's our job

975
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,079
to make him a man. And he sang on this

976
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:17,559
track two years ago when we started it, and we

977
00:50:17,679 --> 00:50:20,159
just kind of never finished it, but we decided to

978
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:23,360
add it to the record and it ended up becoming

979
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,280
the title track, and so Jackson sang on it again

980
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,880
when he was fourteen. So that's the kind of stuff

981
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,639
I was scared to lose, having him at eleven singing

982
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:37,320
on the track, and then having him at fourteen, so

983
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,559
both of those voices were there, like, I can't get

984
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:42,880
him at eleven again, I can have him redo the

985
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,840
track tomorrow we set up. So those are the things

986
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,559
that I was thinking about, and honestly, I felt selfish

987
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:54,000
every time I thought about it, because these people lost

988
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:56,320
their homes. I lost some songs, but I got a

989
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,360
roof in a bed, which is one of the main

990
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,599
reasons why I was like laser focused on making sure

991
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:06,559
people knew that I wasn't taking money from this. I

992
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:08,800
want to make sure people know that we are doing

993
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,519
everything we can to help the folks that no longer

994
00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:13,000
have a roof in a bed, like they were getting

995
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,480
put up at the old the old middle school, Elm Street,

996
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,079
that's where that's where they were staying.

997
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:21,679
Speaker 2: Like I was staying in my room, you know what

998
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:22,039
I mean?

999
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 4: Like I was. I was cooking breakfast the next day

1000
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,679
in my kitchen. You know, so so I.

1001
00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: But but now that we are making sure that in

1002
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:34,400
the Salvation Army has been great. I forget the gentleman's

1003
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:36,960
name that was the contact. I believe it's Dave something.

1004
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,880
But he's working closely with the families to make sure

1005
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,119
that that all our donations are going through and good.

1006
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,079
Now now that and I jokingly said, like the first

1007
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:52,119
week after all this, because any anybody who sees me,

1008
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,000
so you have the news, you know what's going on

1009
00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:56,960
with the fire all, I like, I'm like, I'll be

1010
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,159
sad next month about my music because I thought it

1011
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:03,760
was gone, and now it's my month to be sad about.

1012
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,760
You know, I could be a little bit selfish. And

1013
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,519
I get a text from Dave the other night. I

1014
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,280
was literally out having a couple a couple drinks at

1015
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,519
the blues Blues bar, and I look I looked down

1016
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:18,119
at the phone and Dave sent me a message with

1017
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:19,000
all my folders.

1018
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:24,559
Speaker 4: Yeah wow, man, I cried. I cried at the bar.

1019
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:28,559
Speaker 3: I don't even yeah wow, just like tears filled my

1020
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:29,960
eyes and it's all there.

1021
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 4: It's all there. You don't know when we're going to

1022
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,280
mix it.

1023
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a I'm gonna put a date on

1024
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,559
it at some point. But right now, what we're going

1025
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:40,719
to do is we're going to re release my EP

1026
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:45,320
with merchandise and start getting out there and playing it live.

1027
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,920
So the re release is uh for me personally, this

1028
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,960
is this is this is just my plug, not a

1029
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,760
not a benefit. My re release is on February ninth,

1030
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,360
we're re releasing the EP, and then on March seventh

1031
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,559
at Bad Burger, we're doing a record release party or

1032
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:07,000
an EP release party. My full band will be there

1033
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,280
and we have two wonderful bands that are gonna be

1034
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,400
on the bill as well. The tumble Toads and the

1035
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,760
Faith and Band are gonna also be there on the

1036
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,639
seventh of March at Bad Burger and we are gonna

1037
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,119
that's gonna be a party. It's gonna be a ticketed event.

1038
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:25,960
There'll be money at the door and merchandise, so if

1039
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,719
you want a shirt with my ugly mug on it,

1040
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,199
you can come down and check it out. But we're

1041
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,880
really really excited to I'm excited to be releasing it.

1042
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,480
Wanted Superhero Toys to be on it. Like the seventeenth

1043
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:42,400
of December was when it was supposed to come out,

1044
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,719
my son's birthday.

1045
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

1046
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,119
Speaker 3: Every one of my releases has has a meeting, even

1047
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:49,079
February ninth.

1048
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, I want to release in February. What's a

1049
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,639
good February date? We'll it have.

1050
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 3: February ninth happens to be the sixty third anniversary of

1051
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,599
when the greatest band of all time appeared on the

1052
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,440
Ed Sullivan Show and change rock and roll, you know,

1053
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:05,679
and and and pretty much made me want to do.

1054
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:07,679
Speaker 4: What I want to do, you know, yeah, through my

1055
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,159
father and stuff. Yeah, excuse me.

1056
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: So everything, everything has a special date, but I really

1057
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,480
wanted to come out on the seventeenth. Yeah, it's not

1058
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:20,320
gonna but buckle up, everybody. Twenty twenty six, we're we're ripping.

1059
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,599
Speaker 2: It and you might even get a single release of

1060
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:26,960
one of my originals that made it through nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1061
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,320
there's some uh some music of mine that is as

1062
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,079
of yet unheard by the words. Okay, okay, I absolutely

1063
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,679
wonder this. This fire has kind of made me realize

1064
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:40,039
that I should probably just publish it.

1065
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:43,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good, Well we look forward to that, guys.

1066
00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:44,960
We're almost out of time. I'm thinking, uh, I was

1067
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:46,840
going to close out the segment, we'll play Lost in

1068
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,960
It all. I know that single with faith and got

1069
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,280
that cute up and ready. Anything you want to just

1070
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,639
remind people before we wrap up the hour, what what

1071
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,480
they should know about what's coming up?

1072
00:54:56,639 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 2: Well, if you'd like to catch me tonight, I'm actually

1073
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,199
gonna be playing it ten pm tonight.

1074
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 4: Yep.

1075
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,679
Speaker 2: I'll be with the brad New Bay Bands. Kind of

1076
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:06,760
a weird bill. It was like two metal bands and

1077
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,639
then a blues band in the middle of it. Okay,

1078
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,239
you know, but if you want to catch forty five

1079
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,159
minute set of some some Ripping Blues tonight ten pm.

1080
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,079
Nice also, uh, actually no, that's it, never mind.

1081
00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: I would love to end the segment by saying thank

1082
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,039
you to everybody who supported me, from family, friends, other musicians,

1083
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,960
are our community, our music community in.

1084
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,119
Speaker 2: Southern New Hampshire is uh is really special.

1085
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:35,639
Speaker 4: Agreed?

1086
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,119
Speaker 3: And and you know you got Gary coming in next

1087
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:41,440
and there is in the hallways. That guy's in every

1088
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,119
single band in the music community.

1089
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: I always say he's the busiest musician I know.

1090
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: I really be playing with Gary soon. Yeah, excellent, another week.

1091
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: So I want to say thank you to the bands,

1092
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,280
to Eleanor and Terminus Underground. I want to say thank

1093
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,880
you to to family and friends who have supported us,

1094
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,039
anybody who's donated, and and everybody that's keeping this, keeping

1095
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:04,559
this rolling.

1096
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:08,119
Speaker 1: Thank you, absolutely, thank you, well said guys, thank you,

1097
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,320
thank you for coming in. And this has been this

1098
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,119
has been wonderful.

