WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.679 Oh well, that are. 2 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:33.159 Trigger Warrener. 3 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:37.759 This podcast may include explicit content that will take you 4 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:38.359 out of your. 5 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.520 Company stone and make you question reality. 6 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:42.880 Listener's discretion is advised. 7 00:00:55.520 --> 00:01:09.959 Hello, and welcome back to the show. Everyone hang on, Yes, okay, 8 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:14.760 so today we are picking up right where we left 9 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:20.079 off with Uncle Sam. Today is going to be part 10 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:25.040 three and I just need to get my nose cooled 11 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:29.359 up on how is everyone doing out there? 12 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:36.760 All right, So we covered a lot of ground in. 13 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:40.000 The last episode, hopefully we can do the same today. 14 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:44.799 I really thought I was going to keep this to 15 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.840 three parts, but it turns out there was a lot 16 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.599 of information that I needed to cover for a part four, 17 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:53.239 So there will be a part four. 18 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:56.560 Try to give you small. 19 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:59.719 Doses in each episode so I don't overwhelm anyone, and 20 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:03.480 I'll also keep your attention, so there will be a 21 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:09.960 part four unexpectedly, But yay for another part. Right, So, 22 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:17.680 have you ever heard of a guy named Frank Fuster? Well, 23 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.319 let me put y'all on game. Okay, I'm gonna tell 24 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.560 you a little story to get us started today. 25 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:26.719 So on August. 26 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:31.120 Eighth, nineteen eighty four, this dude named Bobby Dean stood 27 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:35.360 on the front lawn of this Frank foxter excuse me, 28 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:42.520 Fuster h rather and Frank lived in the Country Walk 29 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:47.080 housing development, which could be described as a picture perfect 30 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:52.599 community of relatively upscale suburban homes in Dade County, Florida. 31 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:57.599 By all appearances, this was a small slice of paradise, 32 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:02.599 an oasis untouched by the grim realities of American society. 33 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:08.199 On this day, however, Bobby Dean had a loaded gun 34 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:11.919 tucked in his waistband and he fully intended to use it. 35 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:16.280 He showed up on frank storstep to finish the job 36 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:20.479 that someone else had failed to complete on December eighteenth, 37 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:27.360 nineteen eighty, when an unidentified assailant had confronted Francisco Fuster 38 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:32.639 at his place of business and shot him once in 39 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:38.479 the side of the head, and fucking miraculously, Frank survived 40 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:41.719 that attack, which he explained to the police was a 41 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:46.439 botched robbery, but the fucking officers called bullshit and thought 42 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.960 it looked more like an attempted execution. But so Bobby 43 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:54.719 Dean did not get the chance to make another attempt 44 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:57.439 because police were on the scene in a very short 45 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:01.400 amount of time to arrest him and then Frank himself 46 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:05.560 actually surrendered to police two days later in response to 47 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:10.680 an arrest warrant, and basically he had been under investigation 48 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:15.520 following accusations by neighborhood parents that Frank and his wife 49 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:20.279 Liliana had been brutally abusing the children who were left 50 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:25.600 in their trusted care with their fucking Fuster's babysitting service, 51 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:29.120 which was run out of their country walk home. And 52 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:34.199 just like all the other fucksticks we've met along our journey, 53 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:39.519 Frank had super fucking questionable qualifications to be running a 54 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:40.360 decator center. 55 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:43.639 So let's take a look. 56 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:49.879 It's in a book reading Rainbow now, so. 57 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:53.560 Let's look at Frank's past. 58 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:58.399 Okay. On January sixteenth, nineteen sixty nine, Frank fired two 59 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.199 shots into the chest of a random dude in New 60 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:05.360 York City, killing him instantly. Now here's the thing. An 61 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:09.759 off duty police officer was curiously enough and eye witnessed 62 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:14.839 to the execution. But even more curiously, Frank chambered another 63 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:19.879 round and pointed his gun directly at the armed officer, 64 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:24.600 and yet didn't get himself shot at all. Nothing ever, happened. 65 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:28.120 He was arrested, though, and convicted and sentenced before the 66 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:32.199 year was out, so on Halloween Day he was sentenced 67 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:36.240 to a ten year prison term, but was back on 68 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:39.079 the streets in less than four because he said he 69 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.160 was going to go get psychiatric care or some shit 70 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:44.279 like that. But so, in November nineteen eighty two, he 71 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:48.920 was convicted again, this time of committing a leude assault 72 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:52.800 on a nine year old girl, and despite that being 73 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:57.759 his second felony conviction, Frank was sentenced to just two 74 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:04.839 years probation, okay, just two years. It was actually while 75 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:09.920 on probation for the child molestation conviction, that Frank and 76 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:15.040 his underage wife, by the way, started the babysitting service, 77 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:20.480 and Frank's probation officer apparently had no problem with that 78 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:24.560 business venture, even though it completely violated the terms of 79 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:29.519 Frank's probation by bringing him into unsupervised contact with at 80 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:34.560 least fifty kids, at least thirty of whom later reported 81 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:41.800 being horrifically abused. Frank's probation officer also managed to overlook 82 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:47.240 the fact that Frank had self terminated his court ordered 83 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:52.279 psychiatric treatment in August nineteen eighty three, and why the 84 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:57.560 fuck wasn't anyone concerned about Frank's babysitting service. I mean, 85 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:02.959 honest to God, that is completely absurd to me, because 86 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:08.160 I mean, in addition to being run by a convicted 87 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:12.879 murderer and child molester, it was operating without any fucking 88 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:17.480 proper licensing and in violation of local zoning laws which 89 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:23.120 stated that commercial enterprises were expressly forbidden in the residential community. 90 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:24.439 A lot of neighborhoods are like that. 91 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:28.160 But this shit just rolled on full steam ahead. And 92 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:36.399 in fact, Frank Service used the name Country Walk Babysitting Service, 93 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.560 implying that it was like an officially sanctioned entity. Right Like, 94 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.879 they've got this name Country Walk Babysitting Service. All you 95 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.879 gotta do is come up with the name and then boom, 96 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:52.920 your official right just got to have the name. But so, 97 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:59.319 after Frank's past and present activities were exposed, the management 98 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:04.600 company of the babysitting service, which was called Arvida, denied 99 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:08.800 that it ever had any official links to the foster operation. 100 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:14.439 But get this shit, This management company, Arvida, was a 101 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:22.959 fucking subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company. So of course 102 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.680 they're not gonna go down with the sinking ship. They 103 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:31.079 can't let anyone know they have connections direct connections to 104 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:39.000 a child molestation operation. The company also took no action 105 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.600 against Frank for the illegal use of the country Walk 106 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:50.639 name or for violating zoning regulations. Okay, they're completely overlooking it. 107 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:52.720 Nothing ever happened. 108 00:08:53.039 --> 00:09:00.759 Fucking Walt Disney subsidiary involved in this residential unliscense, No 109 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:05.200 permits a fucking convicted murderer and child molester running this 110 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:10.519 babysitting service, and it's just Aoka and Dade County also 111 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.440 took a hands off approach to the fuster business enterprise, 112 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:19.360 and despite the fact that Frank lacked all the required qualifications, 113 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:24.559 he was somehow still eventually issued an occupational license to 114 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.480 run this fucking babysitting service. 115 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:29.559 So here's the thing. 116 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:34.679 This detective lady named Donna Mesnaric or. 117 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:36.120 Something to that effect. 118 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:41.320 Mesneric was the first police investigator sent to look into 119 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.559 the allegations being made by the Countrywalk parents. She was 120 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.559 fucking openly skeptical of the charges before she even knew 121 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.480 what they actually were. Red flag right off the bat, 122 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.559 and the parents felt that she came into the investigation 123 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:04.679 with an unmist attitude of disbelief. Wonder why where did 124 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:08.120 this don a lady come from? Who picked her? And 125 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:12.720 what are her connections? That's going to be very important. 126 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:19.000 So but even with her badass attitude, okay, enough evidence 127 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:22.679 was obtained to issue an arrest warrant for Frank Foster 128 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:29.320 for probation violations, although a considerable amount of more evidence 129 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:34.600 could have been gathered had police conducted a timely search 130 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:41.200 of the Foster home. But so, facing imminent arrest, Frank 131 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:48.080 was observed by his countrywalk neighbors hastily packing boxes into 132 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:54.639 a white van. What's in the boxes, Frankie, what's in 133 00:10:55.639 --> 00:11:01.879 the boxes? But so, fearing the law us a valuable 134 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:09.240 physical evidence, the parents contacted this detective, Donna Mesnaric, who 135 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:14.159 failed to respond completely failed to respond. They were reaching 136 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.519 out to her saying, Hey, this guy's packing boxes. This 137 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:19.759 guy's got a van out from fucking loading it the 138 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.480 fuck up. You need to get over there, you need 139 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:25.159 to see what's shaken loose. Failed to respond. 140 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:26.840 She did execute a. 141 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.360 Search warrant, but it wasn't until the next day, at 142 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:34.559 which point the fucking house had already been cleared and 143 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:41.600 cleansed of any incriminating evidence, and so basically, once Frank 144 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.799 was safely in custody and the house had been properly 145 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.799 cleaned out the day before. The stories told by his 146 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:56.559 child victims grew increasingly disturbing. They told just like the 147 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.159 freaking military based kids with Michael Akino. 148 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.879 They said that they were forced. 149 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:08.080 To play games with peepee and poop. So here we 150 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:11.799 go again. It always like look like they they they're 151 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.080 covering them in shit, they're making them drink piss, they're 152 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.279 pissing on them, they're shitting on them. And it's just 153 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:20.399 like the kids with Michael Achino. 154 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:21.440 I mean. 155 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:29.000 Almost word for word the exact same experiences, and a 156 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:32.519 photo was later produced at a trial showing Frank's young 157 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:37.039 son his own son, Jamie, one of the most severely 158 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.600 abused of the victims, sitting in a bathroom smeared thickly 159 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:49.399 with human shit, his own son covered in shpit, and 160 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.840 the children also told of being forced to drink magic punch, 161 00:12:55.639 --> 00:13:00.600 later revealed by Frank's wife to be a mixture of gatorade. 162 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:05.879 Nothing suspicious there, right, how about this gatorade and urine, okay, 163 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:13.320 and various drugs. So this little cocktail that they call 164 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:19.879 magic punch? First off, how do you even get kids 165 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:23.080 to drink that I get it. I used to be 166 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:27.360 into the urine therapy. Don't get me wrong, I've tasted it. 167 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:31.399 It's not horribly noticeable if you're gonna mix it with gatorade. 168 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.519 But you're putting all these drugs and shit in it, 169 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:41.200 feeding it to the kids. I mean, it's all very ritualistic. 170 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.360 And it was revealed at a trial that a close 171 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:50.679 friend of the Foster family owned a fucking pharmacy which 172 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:55.000 provided a reliable source for drugs. So they're loading up 173 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.639 all this like Jim Jones, fucking great punch ass shit, 174 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.600 and then they're giving it to these kids, and then 175 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:07.360 they're pooping on them, pissing on them, and again somehow 176 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:14.639 linked to Walt Disney. Need I say more? Anyways, this 177 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:19.480 friend was particularly close to Frank's mother and uncle, this 178 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:24.039 friend that owned the pharmacy, and the young victims also 179 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.799 told of having their lives threatened repeatedly, and of having 180 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:32.720 their parents and siblings lives threatened as well, just like 181 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:37.639 the kids and Mick Martin, just like the kids with 182 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:42.000 the military bases, just like the kids with all these 183 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.960 fucking peto rings, Mark Dutreaux and all that shit. It's 184 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.840 like how much do you love your sister? How much 185 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:51.200 do you love your mommy? How much do you love 186 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:53.879 your daddy? Do you want them to die? Do you 187 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:56.000 want me to sneak in your house and murder them? 188 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.200 You want me to stab them? 189 00:14:58.559 --> 00:14:59.759 You want me to like? 190 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:03.879 This is what they do because they know kids are 191 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:08.879 so full of love that they will go through this stuff. 192 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:12.559 I mean, think of that, like the innocence of children. 193 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:19.360 They are capable of that agape love and fucking take 194 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.879 full advantage of that to get them to do these 195 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:26.600 sadistic things. It makes me fucking sick. And they also 196 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:30.279 said that they had been compelled in this way to 197 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:32.879 play a game called Who's Gonna Lose Their Head? 198 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:38.279 Sounds like loads of family fun, right, How do you play, Julia? 199 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:40.639 Let me show you some good. 200 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:47.080 This game frequently ended with the ritual decapitation of random 201 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:53.080 animals or birds, and then after the decapitation. The children 202 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:59.159 claimed that they were frequently photographed and videotaped both while 203 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:03.480 being sexual abused during occult rituals with the animal head. 204 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:06.879 Y'all think I'm playing. 205 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:08.679 This is the realist shit. 206 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:10.559 You guys got to look into this. 207 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:16.639 So Frank claimed to have never owned any video equipment, 208 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.200 and none was found in the late search of the 209 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:23.519 Foster home. But you remember the search warrant was issued 210 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.440 late after he had already white banded up and was 211 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.399 carrying boxes and fucking tots and everything out to the 212 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.559 fucking van and fucking disappearing it. But so Jamie, his son, 213 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.799 Jamie Fuster, though he was badly fucked up in the 214 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.840 head and completely traumatized, was a really good witness because 215 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.320 he recalled seeing video equipment as well as guns. 216 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.279 Being packed into. 217 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:51.120 Boxes like I told you about that were loaded into 218 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:54.120 the van just before Frank's arrest. So he was a 219 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:59.679 great witness to say, yes, they were there, they fucking existed, 220 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:06.039 but Frank fucking disappeared him. So some investigators have speculated 221 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.720 that Frank was in the business of producing and selling 222 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:16.960 custom made to order child pornography videos, and he certainly 223 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:20.519 lived quite well for a self employed Get this shit 224 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:31.240 many blind installer, a mini blind installer. He's over here 225 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:36.079 going to fucking Aruba and shit on vacations and shit, 226 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:40.119 he's going on fucking carnival cruises. He's got one of 227 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:45.400 the nicest houses in the neighborhood. He's got lavish, fucking fucking. 228 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.240 Furniture cars, all of this. 229 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:53.039 He's a mini blind installer, and he runs a daycare, 230 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:56.680 and he's got all this money and shit, does that 231 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:02.279 make sense to you? He also had no problem, for example, 232 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:06.680 coming up with the down payment for his country walk home, 233 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:11.359 and he maintained no fewer than six bank accounts. You 234 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.960 tell me what many blind installer you know that needs 235 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:19.640 six bank accounts and had a cash down payment for 236 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:24.000 their house. He was also in the habit of making 237 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:31.680 lumpso deposits of as much as twenty thousand dollars in cash. 238 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:35.559 Where do I fucking sign up? I will install the 239 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:36.599 dog shit. 240 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:37.519 Out of some mini blinds. 241 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:39.759 I'll put the mini blinds in so good you fucking 242 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:43.039 think fucking they came as part of the window. 243 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:50.079 I'll do it. What do you want, Vinyl, What do 244 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:54.559 you want fucking fau for mini blinds. I'll fucking make 245 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:55.319 that shit happen. 246 00:18:55.759 --> 00:19:01.759 Okay, do you know anyone who works in childcare? Are 247 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.359 they bringing home twenty thousand dollars lump sums? 248 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:05.160 I don't think so. 249 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:11.039 Frank also apparently liked to screen home videos for the kids, 250 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.000 one of which was said to be a snuff film 251 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:18.240 that the children described as depicting two men butchering a 252 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.079 woman in a bathtub and then eating her. 253 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:23.160 That's nice. 254 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:27.720 Some prefer Bambi, while others may prefer a walk on 255 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:31.160 the wild side, like the Little Toaster that could. But 256 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:36.079 you know, bathtub butcher shop is right up there, like 257 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:40.480 what can you imagine your kid coming home and saying 258 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:45.279 that shit. Some of the kids also, as a side note, 259 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:51.519 spoke of being hypnotized by Lilliana Fuster, who they said 260 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:55.960 were a hypnotizer quote unquote on a chain around her neck, 261 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:02.400 and the trial of Frank Fuster had notable parallels to 262 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:07.799 the McMartin prosecutions, although it differed in significant ways as well. 263 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:12.359 So the Countrywalk parents, who actively and vocally worked to 264 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:17.880 see these two shit sticks were brought to justice. They 265 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.759 were subjected to death threats by phone, obscene messages in 266 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:26.039 the mail, and dead fucking chickens left on their doorstep, 267 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.279 and so much more similar to the harassment suffered by 268 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:35.599 their counterparts in Manhattan Beach and McMartin. You remember Judy 269 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:40.319 Johnson fucking dead as a door nail over. 270 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:40.920 Some shit like this. 271 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:46.640 So also like McMartin, the primary defense strategy was to 272 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:51.440 bring in a hired expert quote unquote of questionable qualifications 273 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:56.119 to attempt to discredit the children's testimony. Here we go again, 274 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.960 fucking mc martin all over again. They claimed the children 275 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:05.640 and had been brainwashed by over zealous therapists, just like 276 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:12.519 the McMartin kids, and these therapists were crucified as being 277 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:14.119 the true guilty party. 278 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:15.680 Not the guy. 279 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:19.680 Molesting and showing bathtub butcher shop videos or shitting or 280 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:20.559 pissing on kids. 281 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:25.759 No, not that guy. It's the therapist. It's always the therapist. 282 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:30.079 They're putting these thoughts into the kids's head. Give me 283 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:35.880 a fucking break. And so the man originally chosen to 284 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.759 play as the starring role for the defense was this 285 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.960 guy named Ralph Underwager, who at the time was a 286 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:51.559 prominent mouthpiece for a group calling itself Vocal Vocal, which 287 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:57.839 was for victims of child abuse laws. And as the 288 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:02.720 name implies, this group was rtually composed of indicted and 289 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:08.240 or convicted pedophiles. And wouldn't you like to note that 290 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:13.039 this Underwager had been present at the birth of this organization, 291 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:18.759 kind of grandadding it along and seeing to its success. No, 292 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:23.279 red flags there. But so the defense actually suffered a 293 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.200 little bit of a setback when it was revealed at 294 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:30.240 a pre trial deposition that Underwager's credentials as an expert 295 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.680 quote unquote in the field of child development were non 296 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:39.279 fucking existent, non fucking existent. So thank god he was 297 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.440 dropped by the defense and replaced with another person named 298 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:46.640 Lee Stewart Coleman. But don't hold your breath. Lee also 299 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:51.240 had close ties to this fucking vocal group victims. 300 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:54.279 Of child abuse laws. How are you a victim to 301 00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:55.799 child abuse laws? Anyways? 302 00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:01.160 Coleman had also played a key role in the unsuccessful 303 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:07.640 prosecution of the defendants in one of the McMartin preschool trials, 304 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:12.640 so he's definitely the man for the job, right. But 305 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:17.039 Coleman did not succeed in his mission with the Country 306 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:21.720 Walk case. Frankie Boy was found guilty on all fourteen 307 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:27.279 of the counts brought against him. Halla fucking Louijah. One 308 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:31.279 reason for that is that the children were protected from 309 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.680 the abusive pre trial treatment that was received by the 310 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:39.720 McMartin kids. They weren't battered and shattered and freaking thrown 311 00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.680 under the bus a thousand times to wear them down, okay, 312 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:43.960 like the McMartin kids were. 313 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:45.759 And in addition to that. 314 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:50.839 The police and prosecutors, with some notable exceptions, seemed to 315 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:55.240 have actually made an effort to win the case. So 316 00:23:55.319 --> 00:24:00.200 I know what you're thinking. Why was this prosecution not 317 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:06.319 subverted as so many others were? And that is honestly 318 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:12.160 difficult to say, although the answers may lie in the 319 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:18.039 makeup of the parents seeking justice for their children. Among 320 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:24.400 the Countrywalk parents were a police sergeant, a police lieutenant, 321 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:30.680 two former state prosecutors, a former chief assistant state attorney, 322 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:35.400 and a gun toting vigilante we met at the beginning 323 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.079 of this episode named Bobby Dean. 324 00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:41.799 In the end, Frank. 325 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.799 Foxter, the man who appeared at his pre trial hearing 326 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:51.440 in what was described as a catatonic trance, was sentenced 327 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:56.319 to be imprisoned until the year twenty one to fifty. 328 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:04.079 Bye bye fucka. And not even the Santa Rea priest 329 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:08.559 who attended the trial with Frank's mother and uncle had 330 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:13.000 the power to save him. But get this shit right, 331 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:18.359 ar Veda, which is to say, the Walt Disney Company 332 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:31.200 paid six million dollars to seven of Frank Foxter's victims, 333 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:34.640 fucking god damned Disney. I thought they said they wanted 334 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:36.559 no part to do in it. I thought they said 335 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:39.160 that they weren't connected to this babysitting operation. 336 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:41.920 Why oh why are they. 337 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:44.720 Then paying six million dollars to seven of the victims 338 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:50.000 of Frank Foxter. You tell me why. 339 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:50.640 Those two things? 340 00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:57.480 Like? I mean, if they had nothing to do with 341 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:05.640 Frankie's babysitting service, why are they shelling out cash. Even so, 342 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:13.599 justice was not necessarily served because, according to the victims, 343 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.559 at least two other adults were involved in the abuse. 344 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.440 The state knew the identity of at least one of them, 345 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:26.160 but he was never charged with any crimes. So Frankie 346 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:32.000 is the fall guy, right had this unidentified other person 347 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:39.160 been charged, there is no telling where this investigation might 348 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.480 have led. But I guess we'll have to take our 349 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:48.559 w that at least frank got the guilty verdict. But so, 350 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:53.440 with the heightened awareness of the issue of child abuse 351 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.079 on the forefront of everyone's mind due to this high 352 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:02.240 profile Frank Foxter case, a number of other cases began 353 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:06.599 to surface in the Miami area, and in the course 354 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:11.000 of one investigation, police inadvertently stumbled upon a collection of 355 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:16.519 hundreds of photographs of a convicted child pornographer engaged in 356 00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:22.519 sexual acts with young boys. The man was promptly arrested, 357 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:27.359 but of course was released on bond two days later. 358 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.799 And what did he do while he was out on bond, Well, 359 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.000 he didn't just skirt off the Burger king and get 360 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.599 a Whopper Junior in his free time. No, no, no, 361 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.839 This dude was found in a Miami hotel room with 362 00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:44.400 a bullet hole in his head. His death was naturally 363 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:52.960 ruled a suicide, and his timely suicide preempted an investigation 364 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:57.400 that could have actually led to the elementary school that 365 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:04.559 was directly across from his home and his studio. That 366 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.599 is just yet another elementary school case. Right, this guy, 367 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.920 he gets busted, let's out on bail two days later, 368 00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:18.440 bullet to the head, and right, it was right before 369 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.160 the investigation broke loose that he had some kind of 370 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:27.440 a connection to and yet at other elementary school. But so, 371 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.039 another case that broke in the wake of the Country 372 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:37.599 Walk Frank Foxter case was that of Harold Grant Snowden, 373 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:43.960 whose wife had also run a babysitting service. Dozens of 374 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.799 kids had passed through her care over the course of 375 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:52.200 a decade, and it took two trials, but Snowden was 376 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:53.519 ultimately convicted. 377 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:55.039 But get this shit. 378 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.640 In nineteen eighty three, Snowden had been named the South 379 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:07.440 Miami Many Police Departments Officer of the Year, and stepping 380 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.839 up to handle the appeal of his conviction was a 381 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:16.279 douche packer named f Lee Bailey, who in the late 382 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.480 nineteen sixties had represented a US Air Force captain in 383 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.680 South Carolina accused of molesting multiple jile victims. But before 384 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.599 I get ahead of myself, Bailey will be revisited later 385 00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:33.160 in our ongoing research. But so years and years later, 386 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:39.240 after this Snowden case breaks loose and Harold Grant Snowden 387 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:44.880 is arrested. In August two thousand and two, Florida authorities 388 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.039 issued a warrant for the arrest of a former minister 389 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:56.920 and radio evangelist named Troy Cecil Snowden coincidence, a search 390 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:01.640 of his Cape Coral home had yielded webs, sins, child pornography, 391 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.720 and other unspecified items. So let me read that article 392 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:15.200 for you. It's a Los Angeles Times article. It says 393 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:21.200 former ministers sought on child porn charges. The FBI has 394 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.799 issued an arrest warrant for a former minister after seizing 395 00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:28.680 child pornography, weapons, and other items from his home. Troy 396 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.880 Cecil Snowden, fifty nine, was indicted last week by a 397 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:36.319 federal grand jury on charges of possessing child pornography, wirefraud, 398 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.799 transporting a child for illegal purposes, and possession of a shotgun. 399 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.119 Snowden's last known address is a home in Cape Coral 400 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.960 in southwest Florida, but neighbors said no one has been 401 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.480