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Speaker 1: I would like to.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program Terry Donovan. She is the Republican

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nominee for mayor of Charlotte. Early voting starts today, so

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I'm sure she's actually pretty busy today, so I appreciate

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her making time to join us.

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Speaker 1: Terry, how are you welcome?

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Speaker 3: Happy? I'm doing well? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right myself.

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Speaker 2: So i'd imagine you got a pretty jam packed schedule,

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are you like bouncing around early voting sites and such today?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've got a pretty jam packed last thirty days,

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that's for sure. More so than that, then, today is

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definitely a bit chaotic. And I've got an event tonight

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and another event to stop by before that event. So

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it's a little it's a little crazy, but I definitely

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wanted to come on and say hello.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: And when I reached out to you and I said, oh,

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why don't you know come on? And then I was like, oh,

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it's actually the first day of early voting, so she

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might not be able to swing it. So I do

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appreciate you coming on, so tell me, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: We want I absolutely want to. I've got a great

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team of people out there for me, so I'm good.

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Speaker 2: So tell people a little bit about yourself. You're a

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small business owner. What's the what is that small business?

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And why did you decide to dip your toes into

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the political waters.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been in real estate in Charlotte since two

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thousand and I've just seen, you know a lot of

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owned a few different companies in my lifetime, but most recently,

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you know, I'm in real estate. I'm a real estate broker,

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so I've sull real estate here for years and I

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just can't sit back and watch what's happening our city anymore.

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It's just as awful. And I have I hear from

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my clients every day and people just don't feel safe

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in their neighborhoods anymore. And that was the main reason

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I decided to step up and get involved. I mean,

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we hear people complain and complain and complain every day,

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and we've got to stop that. We've got to step

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up and actually do something. So that's why I'm here.

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Speaker 2: So and I did read I read the op ed

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I guess that you wrote for I saw it at

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the Daily Caller. And this was back in September, after

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the murder of Arena Zarutska. Were you already considering a

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run before that murder or did that?

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Speaker 1: Did that prompt it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you, I actually filed on the very

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last day on the deadline, which was July nineteenth. So

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I filed on July nineteenth to run. Arena Zarutska was.

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Speaker 1: Murdered on August twenty second.

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Speaker 3: Second, Yeah, which was horrific. And you know, I'll be honest.

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I mean after that incident, everything really escalated. I mean,

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just the level of seriousness of everything in our city. Obviously,

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we've got national media attention, and it's just a horrific

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reason to have it, terrible reason to have all of

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this negative publicity on Charlotte right now. But you know,

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it is really shining a light on a lot of

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things that were broken in our city, and safety being one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do you attribute the brokenness to? What

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broke it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think for starters, these cash list bail programs

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that we've been doing here in Charlotte are just not working.

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I mean, we've got people walking around on our streets

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that have been arrested more than thirty times. You know,

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we've got I spoke to a police officer last week

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that arrested the same guy twice in one day. How

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is that even possible? People hear these things and you know,

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just like I did before, I would think, oh, you know,

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that's just an exaggeration. There's no way that can be true.

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But you know what, don't even believe me, Go find

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out for yourself. Get involved. It is true and it

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is absolutely happening. And right now, what's happening in our

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city is it's absolutely it's just unacceptable and it has

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got to stop. People do not feel safe in their neighborhoods.

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People don't feel safe sending their kids to school, and

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we have got to turn this city around. We can't

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have what's happening in our you know, Uptown. Uptown, the

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murder rate is up two hundred percent. Since I have

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been involved and signed up for this, I now have

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people sending me things that are happening and that they're

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dealing with on a daily basis. You know, a lot

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of things aren't even being reported on local media. And

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what I'm hearing from them is that they can't get

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to all of the stories because there's so many of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and for people who are who don't know

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how media operates, like especially TV news, you get assigned

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a story. If you're a reporter, you get a story.

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You got to turn a story a day, and so

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I mean, just do the math on that. If you've

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got two or three crimes occurring every single day, you

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have to make choices on what to go cover.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. And unfortunately, that's what started to happen here, is

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that people are almost becoming numb to it because it

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happens every day now. I mean, we just had a murder, homicide,

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we had a shooting, and a woman died in South Park, Yeah,

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and her parking garage when she was leaving for work

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that morning. And you know, I'm not you just can

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hardly process one thing before you're hearing of another one

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the night after that, I think it was there was

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a girl on her scooter over near is it Fin

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and Fino that restaurant and she is pushed off of

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her scooter by a deranged homeless man, ends up, you know, injured,

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and you know, where's the reporting on that? I mean,

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we're living in some dangerous, dangerous times, and I know

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there's a crime report that just came out. In certain stats,

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they're saying that have gone down, but you know, we

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need to look at our murder rate. Our murder rate

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uptown is up over two hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was going over in the last hour.

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Overall crime reported for the first nine months of the

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year down eight percent, violent crime down twenty percent when

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compared to last year first nine months. But like I

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always take a longer view of it, like, well, what's

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the trend from the previous five to ten years, because

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just being down year over year while good, don't get

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me wrong, that is good, but that's only that, that's

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just one marker, you know, Like, because we saw a

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massive jump in crime in twenty twenty, so are we

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pre pandemic levels yet? Are were are we going back

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to like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Have we gotten back

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down to those lows? But there also seems to be

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sort of an acceptance. You said that we've gotten numb

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to it. I completely agree. It's like there's this idea that, oh, well,

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you know, if you're going to live in the city

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and you know Charlotte's now, you know, top twenty market,

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So therefore we just have to accept a level of

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violence because that's what living in a city means. And

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I don't I don't accept that. I just don't accept

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that that has to be the case.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, is that what we want

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is that what we want? I mean, is that how

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we want our kids to grow up? Is that how

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we want to you know, what kind of business can

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drive in that environment? Uptown? I'm hearing some business owners

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that are closing their restaurants every week. I mean, they

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can't find employees to work because the employees don't feel

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safe walking from their car to work. Yeah, it's unaccessible,

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It's absolutely unacceptable. It's just we've got to focus on this.

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We've got to clean up this city, and that is

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an absolute top priority. That is the main That is

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the main reason I'm decided to get involved. I just

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can't sit back and watch this anymore.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure you're aware.

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Speaker 2: In North Carolina, Uh, the mayor is a weak position

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when it comes to actually, you know, voting on things

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and such. So what can a mayor do with regard

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to crime. It's a council manager form of government a lot.

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You know, the mayor's got virtually no real authority. You

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can't you can't force the judicial branch to behave So

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what exactly can you do as mayor if you win?

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Speaker 3: You're exactly right. Uh, And I'm so glad you brought

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that point up. And I will say this, that's why

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it's never been more important, ever been more important. We

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need to vote like our life depends on it. There

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are eleven city council members. Nine of them right now

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are Democrats, to are Republicans. We have some new candidates

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running this year. Every single one of these candidates that's

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running on the Republican ticket needs to win. We've got

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to get them in and if we can do that,

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we can turn this whole city around. We've got to

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have fresh new people on city council. We've got to

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have new ideas. We've just gotten There's a lot of

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questionable things that have happened to as far as transparency go.

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Here's what will change on day one. Immediately, attitude, attitude,

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and acknowledgement. We are going to acknowledge that we have

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a public safety issue. People are not safe now, Businesses

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are not able to thrive. This is the heart of

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our city, our entertainment district, our hospitality district. I'm hearing

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from you know, panther players, I'm hearing from you Just

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won't believe the number of people contacting me right now.

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I mean, this city is hurting. Do not have anybody

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acknowledging that we have an issue? Instead, what we have

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is we keep hearing the same old, same old narrative. Oh,

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the crime stats are down, and you know we do

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have a mental health crisis in this country and we

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really need to focus on more mental health solutions. Well,

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you're right, we do have a mental health issue in

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this country. Everybody needs therapy right now. I wonder why

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we've got to do both. But until we figure that

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side out, we can't just have deranged Olympics running around

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on our streets attacking people. One of the people working

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on my campaign that lives uptown very close to the stadium.

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Last night was texting me around midnight he got he

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almost got attacked last night by another you know person

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all tweaked out on whatever drug he was on, had

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a piece of glass in his hands and said he

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was going to stab him. This just happened last night.

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You know, there were reports and I don't even know

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if you all have heard about it yet, but there

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were reports last night of a man walking down Tryon

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Street threatening people and trying to attack people.

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Speaker 2: So I want to ask you also because you touched

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on something there about this, about the narratives. But I

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got to take a break. Terry Donovan can hang on

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a moment. I'm going to put you on hold here.

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We'll bring her back. Terry Donovan the Republican nominee for

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the mayor of Charlotte. She's running in the election. Early

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voting starts today. By the way, her website Terryfoor Charlotte

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dot com. And that's T E R R I E

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are talking with Terry Donovan. She's the Republican candidate for

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Charlotte Mayer and Terry. Before the break there you mentioned

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we were talking about crime. This is the focus I think, right,

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the focus of your campaign seems like it.

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Speaker 3: Well, is what prompted me to step up and get

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involved in a you know that I had never considered before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and so, and I mean, look, it's a

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topic I think that a lot of people relate to

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and that personal experience with I got an email here

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from Ron who is from rock Hill but says he

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has been a Broadway Lights series season ticket holder for

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twenty five plus years, coming into Uptown to watch the

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plays and they would go and walk a couple of

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blocks to get a quick drink and a snack before

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or after the show. But he says the last time

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they did that, they had to walk through a gauntlet

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of homeless people and aggressive panhandlers. And now they just

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make a b line back to the car because they

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don't feel safe walking around. And this gets to this narrative.

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Council Member Malcolm Graham is quoted in a Queen City

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News article as saying, if you don't feel safe, you're

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not safe. And too many of the citizens throughout the

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city aren't feeling safe. And like this narrative that I

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keep hearing from city leadership is like, oh, it's the

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perception of being insecure and unsafe, as if like we

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are somehow delusional in that, Oh we feel this way,

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but that's not really the case.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Well, all I can say is that

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they just chose to how tone death they are. I mean,

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get out and talk to people, go walk up town

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and when the last time they actually walked uptown and

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walked into the businesses and spoke to business owners and

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spoke to all the bar owners. People are not thriving

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in their businesses anymore. Like I said, they're even having

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a hard time hiring people because the employees are scared

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to walk from the car to the office. I mean,

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it's just it's out of control. And for them to

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come out and say, oh, there's no issue here, nothing

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to see here, you know, people, it's just their perception.

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Speaker 2: While they're unveiling their safety plans to increase police presence

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in center city, right, so it's p so that's why

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they're going to put more cops on the streets and such.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 3: Well? You know, first of all, I commend them for

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making an effort and at least a step in the

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right direction, So kudos on that, and you know, let's see.

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But all I can say is, you know, I was

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just uptown last Friday. I had an event there last Friday,

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and I can tell you I did not see any

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signs of any more police officers on the streets. I mean,

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we need armed, you know, CMPD officers on the streets.

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That's the only way to clean this up. We've got

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to fund CMPD. They're understaffed, they're underfunded. I think they

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are doing this thing now where they've got what they

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call public safety awareness officers. It looks like, you know,

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people wearing orange vests that say safety Awareness Officers on it.

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I'm not sure if these people, you know, go around

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giving hugs to people in need or what. But that's

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not the answer. We need armed officers on our streets,

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and that's the solution that we need right now. I mean, now,

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do I believe that we need other options, that we

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also need to look at root causes of all these

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issues and obviously come up with other solutions there. But

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in the meantime, the answer is not to let these

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lunatics roam around attacking people. Like I said, Peter Classic,

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that's working on my campaign at the moment. He was

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attacked last night. I mean he had to call nine

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to one one last night. Last time I heard from

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him around midnight. It had taken the police officer. He

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had waited thirty minutes before anybody even came. And that's

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what we're having, you know, to deal with now when

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you call the police, now you can't even get them.

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And so all these people who want to push the

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narrative that everything's fine, you know, and that people are

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just it's their perception, you know, that's great. What are

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you going to do when it's your child? What are

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you going to do when it's your kid? And that's

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what I want them to think about. They've got to

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acknowledge that we have an issue, and they're not doing that.

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There are is no longer this is no longer an

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issue over Republicans or Democrats. It's not a matter of that.

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It's a matter of common sense or delusion.

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Speaker 2: There are other there are other issues that the city

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is facing. And if you don't mind, can we keep

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you for another segment? And I want to go into

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some other topics with you real quick after the news. Sure, okay,

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Great Terry Donovan is with me. She is the Republican

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candidate for mayor of Charlotte again her website Terryford Charlotte

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dot com.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more with her in a moment.

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Speaker 2: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's,

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and before he died, my mom and my dad took

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care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago,

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there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers

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and family. Things are different today because of the work

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of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina.

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It's a great organization with awesome people with huge hearts.

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I've been a supporter for twenty five years. This cause

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means a lot to me. I participate in the annual

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Walk to End Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team

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again this year, and it's called once again Pete's Pack.

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You can sign up and you can join the team

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and walk with us. It's on October eighteenth that truest

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field sign up at alz dot org slash walk and

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then you can search for my team name Pete's pack.

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There's also a link at thepetepod dot com. There's also

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a link in the description of this podcast. Also, I'll

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be am seeing the Gastonia Walk on October eleventh, and

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so you can make a team and join that one too,

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or make a donation and help me hit my goal

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of five thousand dollars. If you do, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: There are a.

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Speaker 2: Bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. You can

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go to alz dot org slash walk for all the

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dates and locations. We're closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's.

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Can you help us get there? Will you walk with me?

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For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments?

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Speaker 1: This is why we walk.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here with Terry Donovan. She is the Republican

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nominee for Mayor of Charlotte, running for mayor, trying to

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unseat the incumbent by Liles. Her website Terry for Charlotte

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dot com. So we talked about crime. I want to

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ask you a couple of questions about other things that

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the city is dealing with. Number One, the transit referendum,

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I think is kind of tied to the crime issue,

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but there's big push for people to increase the sales

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tax by one cent. Are you in favor of the

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sales tax referendum? Are you endorsing it or are you

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opposing it?

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Speaker 3: You just said transit right, transit tax.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the transit reference, yeah, the referendum.

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Speaker 3: Yes, No, I do not support that. How can we

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propose a transit tax when people are worried about getting

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murdered on our transit I don't support that yet. We

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don't even need to bring that up yet. We need

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to table that conversation for later after we clean up

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this city and make it safe again.

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Speaker 2: You talk about, and you mentioned it earlier, about transparency

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as well. So how do you if you if you

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win your mayor, how do you improve transparency? Are there

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any concrete steps that you want to take?

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Speaker 3: Well, we just can't have deals being made behind closed

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doors any longer. If we're going to be doing things

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like that. I mean, obviously, how can the public trust

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anyone with tax pier funds it's going to make closed

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door deals, you know. We can't have that. Yeah, not tolerated.

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Speaker 2: So you coming from the real estate background as well,

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you know, housing big problem, housing shortage, the high prices

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of housing. No starter homes are getting built, it seems anymore,

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by anybody anywhere. So how do you how do you

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help address the affordability issue of housing in Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another thing that we've heard just all talk,

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all talk, all talk on for so long, you know,

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affordable housing. And I know firsthand that we have an

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issue with that. I mean, when we have listings that

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have thirty offers in a weekend, there's a problem. So

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it needs to be addressed. And we've got to collaborate

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with the right people and bring the right developers to

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the table. That's the good thing. I do have several

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relationships with the right people to collaborate, bring them to

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the table, and actually make true affordable housing happen, because

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right now we do not have it. What we have

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is we've created a city where people can't even afford

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to buy homes. People are being forced to rent, and

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so you know, people just don't have options to even

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live within city limits.

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Speaker 1: So how do you how does the city drive down

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that price?

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, you've got to bring the right

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developers to the table and make those decisions, bring creative

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solutions that we haven't thought of yet. There's so many

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things that we can do that just haven't been done yet.

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It's a matter of collaborating with the right people. I

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think there are a lot of just relationships that are

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in place right now that might not be personal relationships

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between city council members and so forth. Not necessarily what's

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best for the public, but what's best for their pockets.

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Speaker 2: Right If the issue is starter homes, right those are

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it seems like that's the issue. You've got a lot

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of apartments that are sort of filling that gap right

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now because people can't afford the homes that are getting

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built that are brand new and they're running you know,

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three hundred and fifty to and above the You know,

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there always used to be sort of this stock of

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starter homes. Why aren't those getting built anymore? Is that

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a regulatory framework? If so, do you do you know

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of like what types of regulations that the city imposes

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could be wound down in order to incentivize builders, because

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they're like, they've got to make a profit, right, So

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you can't ask them to build a bunch of homes

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and then lose money on the project. So how do

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you how do you address the regulatory framework.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've got a press for that. We've got to

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make it a priority and absolutely just make that a

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top priority where it hasn't been before. But like I said,

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for me, going back to the public safety issue, nothing

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else matters and nothing else will fall into place until

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we have a safe city. We've got to fix that.

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We've got to clean up this city. People don't even

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want to move to certain areas right now because they

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don't feel safe. Not to mention values, property values on

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people's homes. What's that doing to property values right now?

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absolutely has to happen.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned in your at your website under the

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category of infrastructure, you say delayed projects and bureaucratic red

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tape only hold us back. So what kinds of red

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tape do you think are holding us back in the

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infrastructure category?

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, the mayor alone isn't going to

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have the power to change things in that regard. We've

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got to get the new city council members that are

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running right now on there, and if we can do that,

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we can accomplish a lot without that, though, my hands

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are going to be somewhat tied. So we've got to

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make sure early voting open today. We do have five

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days of early voting only at one location, which is uptown,

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the how Marshall Center. But we do need to get

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our at large candidates direct you know elected. One is

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me Son kim Ed Peacock District three. James Bowers absolutely

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he needs to get on. He's got to win Christa

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Bakari District six. And then I know the school board

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members that are running as well, Wan Hill District two,

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Build Fountain District one, Lisa Kline District Fine, District five,

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and Justin's Chile District six. We've got to clean this

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city up, and I can tell you the best chance

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that we're going to stand is getting every single one

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of these candidates elected this November. And now, like I said,

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uptown is the only location open right now for the

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first five days. But we've got to get every single

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one of these people on there. We've got to shake

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up what's been going on in our city, and the

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only way to do that is to get these new voices,

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these new people who are not career politicians on city council.

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what we've had going on in Charlotte for years, which

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is how we got here. Then the truth is is

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that I'm going to be able to change very little.

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So without having these new members elected, my hands are

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going to be somewhat tied. We've got to have the

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right city council members on city council and then we

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can accomplish everything we need to accomplish.

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Speaker 2: So obviously, you know the voter demographics here. Democrats have

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like forty two percent of the party affiliation, unaffiliated's forty

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one percent, and Republicans only seventeen percent. So how do

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you overcome those demographics?

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Speaker 3: Hey, look, here's the thing. We are not even talking

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about Republicans versus Democrats anymore at all. I mean, for me,

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I've got plenty of Democrat friends. I mean, my best

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friend's a Democrat, right, her husband's are Republican votes Democrat,

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and don't ask me how they live together, but they do.

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And I've got several neighbors that are Democrats, and guess look,

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we hang out and we can have dinner together. We

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get along. Everybody wants the same thing. We've got these

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people that are so far right and so far left.

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But I think that the majority of us live somewhere

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in the middle. Not any of us agree with everything

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on the right or everything on the left. So we've

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got to acknowledge that and just start bridging the gap.

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It's just no longer a race about Democrats versus Republicans.

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It's more about good versus evil. You know, when you

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look at what's happening in our judicial system right now, especially,

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you know these people who are arrested thirty plus times.

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How is this even possible in our city? I mean,

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is that what we want? Is that how we want

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to live?

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Speaker 2: Terry Donovan, thank you very much for your time today.

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I appreciate it. I know you're busy. Early voting is underway.

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Look for Terry out at the polling stations and such.

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She'll be bouncing all around the city of Charlotte for

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the early voting. And again the website Terry for Charlotte

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dot com. Terry, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Could I say one thing? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: There is key on the end of my name for everybody,

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So it's te r R I E for fo R Charlotte.

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That's my website and I will be posting several events

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and everything on there. I know we actually have an

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event at Sycamore tonight bringing in a lot of the

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younger demographics in South End. So anyway, thank you so

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much for your time. Pete.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you, Yeah no, I appreciate you making time

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for us on this busy day. Terry Donovan, thank you,

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take care, Thank you all right again. Terry for Charlotte

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a lot of people have been texting in about the

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interview with Terry Donovan. Steve says, thank you for having

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her on. You made my day friend. You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Let me see this is random seven oh four number

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when Iso Lyle's coming on for an interview and take

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some questions from Rawla. I don't think that's going to happen.

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The door is open, Like the door is always open.

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If any elected official ever wants to come on the show,

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they are always allowed to come on the show. I

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have no problem with any elected official. The problem is

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a lot of Democrats don't ever want to come on

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the show. So, which is weird because like I've interviewed

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democrats for my entire career, I treat them respectfully. I

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ask them questions, and the questions I think of are

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probably a lot different than the questions that they are

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used to receiving, and so a lot of them are

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anxious or nervous about what those types of questions might be.

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I don't ever, you know, rate or make fun of

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people or anything like that. I mean, when they're with me.

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I'm just kidding, no, but seriously, like I I'm perfectly

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capable of having conversations with anybody of any political strength

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except commies, communists, lie and so all right, another random

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seven h four number. Unfortunately, Pete, not much there there.

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That's a sad testament. So you ask some hard questions

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that there aren't easy answers too, But there was really

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nothing at all to sink your teeth into.

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Speaker 1: This is from.

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Speaker 2: Dan, who says he thinks she's she avoided answering questions

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and redirected to public safety every time.

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Speaker 1: Well, so, look, there is.

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Speaker 2: There is something to be said for message discipline, which

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I understand in a campaign you want to just hammer

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away at the issue that is most advantageous, and crime

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is the crime in public safety issue is the focal point.

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Speaker 1: And it's smart. I understand it. Let me see here,

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this is Alan.

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Speaker 2: We need this woman for mayor, says Alan. Kimberly says,

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I need her signs. I guess her yard signs. Yeah,

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I'm sure we'll go reach out to the campaign on

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the website. I'm sure they'll be happy to give you

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some signs, some yard signs. Which, by the way, the

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thing on yard signs I learned actually the former Speaker

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of the House now Congressman Tim Moore told me this

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years ago, which was I was chatting with them at

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an event in Asheville at the time, and he was asking,

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you know, what the prospects were for some of the

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local candidates and that sort of thing, and I said,

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I don't know, and like, I'm seeing yard signs and

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this and that, and I was like, but I don't

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really know if that's a good gauge, and he said

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yard signs on private property are a good sign. Yard

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signs in the public right of way not so much.

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Because if you're just sticking yard signs, if you're a

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campaign and nobody wants your signs for their own property,

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means you're just trying to put them out everywhere, and

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you can only do that on the public right of

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way at intersections, you know, along the sidewalks, along the

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roads and stuff. So if you see a lot of

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yard signs for a candidate, but they're all along the

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road and they're not in people's yards, then that is

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not indicative of support necessarily. That's just the campaign workers.

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But if you see, like if you drive through and

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I've gone through a couple of neighborhoods and you see

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yard signs for local candidates and it's like, you know,

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the whole street is filled with these yard signs, that

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means the campaign workers went to every one of these

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homes probably and talked to the homeowners who all agreed

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to put the yard sign in their yard. That's indicative

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of support. John said, he wants to like her, but

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this is a little cringe. I don't know why people

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think that uh hm, I don't know. I didn't get

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that at all. Appreciate your conversation about the lawlessness. While

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tired of the expense of victimhood day by day, realized

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my safe is my responsibility. Cameras cost me. Okay, this

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is a very Angela. That's a very lengthy message. I'm

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not going to be able to read it all in

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the time I've got left. Thanks so much for having

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Terry on. Will there be a debate? Oh that's a

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good question. Probably not. Incumbents that are as secure as

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vil Isles never want a debate. There's no upside for them.

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And then I guess these are about the it's all

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about the police. This is from Mike. I always know

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who not to vote for by looking at the yard

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signs in my neighbor's front yard.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. It's like a palm card for you.

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All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: I could not do the show without your support and

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the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast,

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So if you'd like, please support them too and tell

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patron at my Patreon page or go to the peak

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