Speaker 1: Karen. Yes, what do you get when you mix divine wisdom,
Speaker 1: spiritual empowerment and a direct line to the Great Council
Speaker 1: of Light.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a heavenly cupcake.
Speaker 1: Heavenly cupcake?
Speaker 2: What you said? And I went to cooking. No, that's
Speaker 2: a great.
Speaker 1: That's like the way better way to describe her than
Speaker 1: I can ever imagine. That's such a great way to
Speaker 1: explain it. No, you get this week's guest, of course,
Speaker 1: and that's Pamela Downs. Of course, a heavenly cupcake. That's perfect.
Speaker 1: But she's a spiritual guide who's helping people literally live
Speaker 1: their calling. Right. Pamela is going to blow our minds
Speaker 1: again with her journey of channeling divine guidance, running her
Speaker 1: spirit calling community and oh yeah, answering the big question
Speaker 1: are we all destined for greatness? Or is it just
Speaker 1: a lucky few who get that VIP pass from the universe. Plus,
Speaker 1: we'll get into the real deal and what's activating our
Speaker 1: inner wisdom? Actually, what that actually looks like? Hint, No,
Speaker 1: it does involve a crystal ball, but it might involve
Speaker 1: a couple of crystals. Okay, we'll get into that. The
Speaker 1: episode is packed with clarity, laughs, and maybe even a
Speaker 1: message straight from the Cosmo. So buckle up, skeptics and seekers,
Speaker 1: like this ride is going intergalactic, and it's one you
Speaker 1: do not want to miss because it might just be
Speaker 1: the divine nudge you didn't know that you needed. The
Speaker 1: Skeptic Metasicians starts now. My name is Will and I'm Karen,
Speaker 1: and unlike Boulder and Scully, both want to believe. So
Speaker 1: we've embarked in a journey of discovery.
Speaker 3: We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
Speaker 3: metaphysical world.
Speaker 1: We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
Speaker 1: joined a coven of witches.
Speaker 3: And wait, you joined a coven yep.
Speaker 1: All on the interest of finding something, anything, that will
Speaker 1: prove that there's something beyond this physical.
Speaker 2: Three dimensional world we all live in.
Speaker 1: This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey, there on, Will, and
Speaker 1: our guest today is someone that you have already met
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and she makes a repeat performance
Speaker 1: here on the show today, and we couldn't be more excited.
Speaker 1: She has dedicated her life to helping others connect with
Speaker 1: her highest selves and embrace their spiritual purpose. She's not
Speaker 1: just a spiritual guide, she's a channel for the Greek
Speaker 1: Council of Light and a lot more in these days,
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that. She is the founder of
Speaker 1: the Spirit Calling Community and the host of the wildly
Speaker 1: inspiring Live the Call podcast.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Through her transformational work, she's empowered countless individuals awakened to
Speaker 1: their inner wisdom, align with their true path, and live
Speaker 1: life of divine clarity and purpose. Please help us welcome
Speaker 1: the One, the only, Pamela Downs. Pamela. We're so thrilled
Speaker 1: to have you join us today. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: What an opener, man, That was amazing. Got me so
Speaker 4: excited about myself.
Speaker 1: I mean, how can you not be excited about yourself, Pamela.
Speaker 1: I mean, you are Pamela Downs. It's hard to have.
Speaker 4: I used to perform in a David Bowie tribute band
Speaker 4: and dress up in glamock costumes, you know what, thousands
Speaker 4: of people, and it felt like that. I felt like
Speaker 4: the moment. So I'm going to say thank you for that.
Speaker 1: You had me at David Bowie sounds like.
Speaker 2: So much fun. Yeah, you guys were videos. I still
Speaker 2: have them. I don't know if I were the leader,
Speaker 2: you just should on.
Speaker 3: Your podcast just David Bowie out.
Speaker 1: I should.
Speaker 2: I should just do that for a surprise one episode.
Speaker 2: That would be awesome.
Speaker 1: That would be cool. Hey, I wonder if you could
Speaker 1: channel David Bowie someday. That would be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I have.
Speaker 4: Actually before my channeling days, I felt an energy come in.
Speaker 1: Oh good god. Yeah, we're going to talk offline because
Speaker 1: I am a big Bowie head.
Speaker 4: So I can't wait to send you my links to
Speaker 4: my performances.
Speaker 1: Not I can't wait to see you. Yeah. All right. So, Pamela,
Speaker 1: you are an old friend of the show, so we're
Speaker 1: thrilled to have you back. This is it's a homecoming,
Speaker 1: it's a reunion. We're thrilled to have you. And there's
Speaker 1: so many different directions that we can head in. But
Speaker 1: I think probably for those that maybe aren't at familiar familiar,
Speaker 1: thank you as with you as we are. I'm on
Speaker 1: new medication and it's giving me the brain fog and
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting the words, so please bear with me as
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 2: Welcome to my every day.
Speaker 1: For those of the listeners and the watchers who are
Speaker 1: not familiar with you, give us a low down. I
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of an introduction, but you
Speaker 1: do a lot more than what I just said, right,
Speaker 1: So give us a thirty thousand foot view of Pamela Downs.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll try my very best. First of all, thank
Speaker 4: you for having me back. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a while. It's so great to see you, guys.
Speaker 4: Let's see Pamela Down's thirty thousand foot view. I guess
Speaker 4: you would say I'm a major juggling act. I'm like di,
Speaker 4: I've got so many things going and juggling so many
Speaker 4: different things. But I've stepped fully in the last year,
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, into stepping fully into my soul's purpose,
Speaker 4: going out on the grand stage and showing everyone that
Speaker 4: I channel a great council of light and letting them
Speaker 4: actually speak through me. And it took me. I call
Speaker 4: myself like a belligerent child. Sometimes I like, no, I
Speaker 4: don't want to do it right now. I'm not ready,
Speaker 4: And you know, then spirit and universe kick me in
Speaker 4: the boop.
Speaker 2: And I really have to listen.
Speaker 4: Because that's always been this path with me and this
Speaker 4: work since twenty twenty it is can't turn my head
Speaker 4: away from it. I have to keep moving forward with it.
Speaker 4: And with that, everything keeps expanding, opportunities keep coming, and
Speaker 4: when you're living with your soul first and your spirit
Speaker 4: first and you are in alignment, that's what happens. So
Speaker 4: it's really exciting. And you know, I never thought i'd
Speaker 4: have a podcast. I never thought I would be out
Speaker 4: on a stage, not singing David Bowie, but channeling the
Speaker 4: Great Council. It wasn't something I said I wanted to
Speaker 4: be when I grew up. But I'm really happy to
Speaker 4: be able to do it now because I'm seeing people's
Speaker 4: lives change and what is better than that.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: Nothing, It's so incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely you guys, we have a shared mission.
Speaker 4: You're doing the same thing with your network and your podcasts,
Speaker 4: so it's amazing. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: I was hearing things, seeing things, having visions and downloads,
Speaker 4: and I heard in the middle of the night, spirit calling,
Speaker 4: Spirit calling, and I got up and I wrote down
Speaker 4: the name. In the morning, I bought the domain, and
Speaker 4: over the course of a year, I kept hearing you
Speaker 4: gotta build this portal. There's a portal that needs to
Speaker 4: be built. There's a community that you need to create
Speaker 4: for people who are starting their spiritual awakening journey. They
Speaker 4: need a safe place to land, they need someone who
Speaker 4: understands their journey, what they're going through. And I was like,
Speaker 4: not ready yet. Like I just said, I'm not ready yet.
Speaker 4: And then over the course of a year, kept hearing it,
Speaker 4: and then I woke up in the middle of the
Speaker 4: night and I saw this little icon going down onto
Speaker 4: an iPhone and I saw the wings, I saw the logo,
Speaker 4: and I put it all together on my head and
Speaker 4: I knew it was time. So I built this portal
Speaker 4: that I know is going to house like a millions
Speaker 4: of people, and I built it with the strong foundation
Speaker 4: that it will be able to do that one day,
Speaker 4: and they're coming. It's like field of dreams. It's incredible.
Speaker 4: It's incredible to watch. Yes, Yeah, I get goosebumps thinking
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what is spirit Calling?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Who is it for? What kind of community is it
Speaker 1: eat It's.
Speaker 4: For the scratchers, it's for the seekers. I was just
Speaker 4: on a podcast recently where I really opened on my
Speaker 4: heart and shared my whole journey, which involved, you know,
Speaker 4: the recession, and being an EmPATH and energy and like
Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff, and people kept sending me messages,
Speaker 4: direct messages, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, info at, and like, I
Speaker 4: understand your story.
Speaker 2: It sounds like my story.
Speaker 4: I found Abraham Hicks, I lost everything in the recession,
Speaker 4: I lost my marriage. I started seeing things in the
Speaker 4: night eye. And it was like this full circle moment
Speaker 4: for me because it was the realization of what I heard.
Speaker 4: They will see you in your story, and they're starting
Speaker 4: to the reality that our world was built in is existing,
Speaker 4: is starting to break down. There's cracks, and people start
Speaker 4: looking through the crack seeing something greater with new eyes,
Speaker 4: new perspective, and they're having questions and they're trying to
Speaker 4: find the answers to them, and that involves, you know,
Speaker 4: basically just getting information. But then you're starting your spiritual
Speaker 4: awakening journey and you don't know you're doing that. So
Speaker 4: it's for those people, it's for the people that are
Speaker 4: starting to We had a Conscious Community Connection circle call
Speaker 4: last night. Once a month we share messages from the
Speaker 4: Great Council of Light, and then people just start opening
Speaker 4: their hearts and saying, I'm having this experience, this is
Speaker 4: happening to me, and everyone can talk and compare notes
Speaker 4: and support each other and kind of understand where each
Speaker 4: other's at, and then we're able to offer guidance and
Speaker 4: support and love. It's amazing. Yeah, without judgment, without judgment
Speaker 4: in the safe space.
Speaker 1: That sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: It really does.
Speaker 1: And you are being so modest because the little podcast
Speaker 1: you went on appens to be Alex Ferraro is right,
Speaker 1: little next level soul. So this is not something huge accomplishment, right,
Speaker 1: this is a big show that you were on. So
Speaker 1: first of all, congratulations for going show. It's a big thing.
Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with it, yes, yes, but but.
Speaker 1: You're doing something right. To your point, If you are
Speaker 1: your intentions are in the right place, and your energies
Speaker 1: are in the right going in the right direction, those
Speaker 1: things fall into place, and you're obviously doing something right
Speaker 1: because now you were able to get onto a vehicle
Speaker 1: that gave you access to so many different people that
Speaker 1: you were able to hear your voice and your message,
Speaker 1: and that's a wonderful thing. So congratulations, that's.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, thank you, And you're right, it is a
Speaker 4: living example of listening, pushing through fear towards love towards opportunity,
Speaker 4: towards all the things that are on the other side
Speaker 4: of it. And that's what you start to do. You
Speaker 4: start to listen, you start to hot, you start to
Speaker 4: push through. Only by experience can you see the evidence
Speaker 4: of it on the other side, Only by experience, and
Speaker 4: you have to exercise that muscle over and over and
Speaker 4: over again. Then you're like, okay, yes, I understand now,
Speaker 4: and then you have to say yes though on the
Speaker 4: other side of an opportunity comes to you that you
Speaker 4: ask for, you got to push through the fear and
Speaker 4: you got to find your way to grasp it and
Speaker 4: to move forward. And that was me, I mean, we're
Speaker 4: all doing it until the day that we leave this planet.
Speaker 4: That was me going on next level soul. It was
Speaker 4: I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this.
Speaker 4: I am going to do this.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, if you're listening, hey, mabe, we're right,
Speaker 1: we're here. We can talk, ready, boy, can we talk? Yeah?
Speaker 2: We have things, we have things to say.
Speaker 1: It's not at all spiritual but exciting. No, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't want to the conversation and you have.
Speaker 3: Well no, I just wanted to ask so you said
Speaker 3: that you started getting these downloads and these visions and
Speaker 3: all this stuff. Did something happen that just sparked that,
Speaker 3: Like we've spoken to people who have been in a
Speaker 3: bicycle accident or they just remember dating really hard. How
Speaker 3: did that happen?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happened through a series of experiences. One of
Speaker 4: the first things that happen was I got invited to
Speaker 4: this reiki share group. Did I tell you guys this?
Speaker 4: This was so funny, Like I wouldn't ever tell anyone
Speaker 4: to do this again. There were like six or seven
Speaker 4: practitioners and it was at a yoga studio and you
Speaker 4: had to wait. You paid for like a thirty minute session.
Speaker 4: So I was the last one, thank god, or else
Speaker 4: I would have scared everybody out of that room. No
Speaker 4: one would have done it. And I got up on
Speaker 4: the table and my girlfriend was waiting outside, and all
Speaker 4: of these reiki practitioners started working on me at the
Speaker 4: same time. Now I started having this swelling happening in
Speaker 4: my chest whoo whoo, and my heart chakra just broke
Speaker 4: open and I started howling and crying. I mean I
Speaker 4: was howling. I had trapped emotion and energy in my
Speaker 4: heart Chakra that got released and it just came all out, release, release, release.
Speaker 4: I lost my breath, like it was incredible. And when
Speaker 4: it was done, this one woman then came rushing over
Speaker 4: to me and said, you're an mpath. You're an mpath
Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't even I didn't know
Speaker 4: what that was, you know, being an artist and musician
Speaker 4: my whole life, I didn't know what that was. And
Speaker 4: that was the beginning. Like when you have these experiences
Speaker 4: that you can't deny there was something that you never
Speaker 4: experienced before, you want to know more and you want
Speaker 4: to know more. So I started with yoga. A lot
Speaker 4: of people start with yoga. There you feel like it's
Speaker 4: a spiritual practice. You're moving your body and there is
Speaker 4: that spiritual aspect to it. And then I moved into
Speaker 4: yoga nidra, which is a meditation, and I started seeing
Speaker 4: these colors on the sides of my eyes. So it's
Speaker 4: one thing after the next, but you're doing the next thing.
Speaker 4: You're like seeking, You're wanting more. You're going to the
Speaker 4: library or you know, Google, and you're looking up what
Speaker 4: is the colors that I'm seeing or what is this
Speaker 4: or what is that? And then you're just doing a
Speaker 4: deep dive and trying and trying and trying. I started.
Speaker 4: I found Abraham Hicks. Do you guys, I'm sure you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: that was that was one of the first things. I
Speaker 4: found Abraham. And I was going through a recession. I
Speaker 4: lost everything, my husband lost this job, I was having
Speaker 4: my own business in marketing. Was the first thing that
Speaker 4: got cut. And we really had what I call my knockdown,
Speaker 4: which was you need to experience something to shift everything
Speaker 4: in your perspective and your reality. And that's what happened.
Speaker 4: And I saw Abraham, and I was so captivated by
Speaker 4: esther because you know, you don't know what you're looking at,
Speaker 4: because she's she's walking around just like we are right now.
Speaker 4: She's speaking, her eyes are open, she's animated. But she
Speaker 4: is a channeler, and channels is energy of this divine, collective,
Speaker 4: infinite group of beings called Abraham. And she talks about
Speaker 4: the law of attraction and manifestation, and I was hooked
Speaker 4: on that immediately. I didn't understand that my talk tracks,
Speaker 4: my words were beating the drum of lack, and I
Speaker 4: was creating more and more and more and more and
Speaker 4: more of that. So I started changing my talk tracks,
Speaker 4: I started changing my perspective. I started saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: we lost our big house, but we found this little
Speaker 4: tiny house and we're all together walking my kids to
Speaker 4: school every day. I get to spend time with them.
Speaker 4: Oh you know, I have been able to carry my
Speaker 4: business through a recession, like finding the golden nuggets, rather
Speaker 4: than just beating that drum over and over again. And
Speaker 4: things started to change, and people started coming into my life,
Speaker 4: and other people started leaving my life, and I started
Speaker 4: seeing more opportunities. And this woman who was she was
Speaker 4: Forbes thirty under thirty, a sustainability expert in New York City.
Speaker 4: This woman, Kelly, she was feeling called to be a
Speaker 4: Reichy practitioner. She wanted to go to the mountains and
Speaker 4: do ayahuasca with the indigenous people, and she wanted to
Speaker 4: snort the business. And she said to me, I want
Speaker 4: to do this business. Can you do the branding and
Speaker 4: marketing for it? And I said, yeah, let's you know,
Speaker 4: let's do trade. I know you're just starting out. And
Speaker 4: I wound up going on this retreat that she created
Speaker 4: on the top of this crystal quartz mountain in Costa Rica,
Speaker 4: and I didn't really want to be a Reichy practitioner,
Speaker 4: but I was being called. I don't know how to
Speaker 4: explain it other than I was being called. I knew
Speaker 4: I was supposed to go, and I didn't have the knowings.
Speaker 4: I wasn't having the visions yet. I was just I mean,
Speaker 4: the visions and stuff. But I was just being pulled.
Speaker 4: The same thing that happened with the heart chakra happened
Speaker 4: down in Costa Rica. I learned all about chakras, I
Speaker 4: learned all about me, the mpath and my energy. I
Speaker 4: suddenly had this realization about myself that I never understood before.
Speaker 4: And at the end of that week, I was attuned
Speaker 4: and Kelly was working on me and doing the attunement,
Speaker 4: and I had a past life come through my throat
Speaker 4: chakra and I actually experienced a hanging and I was
Speaker 4: foaming at the mouth and it was incredibly scary. So
Speaker 4: this is not but everyone, but it was also one
Speaker 4: of those that was crazy. There's thing more like, you know,
Speaker 4: I needed to keep moving forward, and so I think,
Speaker 4: you know, ultimately now I can look back on all
Speaker 4: these things like the ayahuasca, and I was on the
Speaker 4: fast track to getting to the point where I could
Speaker 4: channel because the world is shifting and my work is
Speaker 4: needed again. And like you know, if you look at it, it
Speaker 4: really happened over the course of I don't know, not
Speaker 4: even ten years, you know, five, five, six years, And
Speaker 4: through that I started knowing I was supposed to do ayahuasca,
Speaker 4: and I started meditating and hearing my father talk to
Speaker 4: me at night, and I would have I would go
Speaker 4: on a walk and hear turn down the street and
Speaker 4: I would run into, you know, someone who was in need.
Speaker 4: I kept having the same experiences, and when I went
Speaker 4: to Costa Rica, I mean yeah, I went to Costa
Speaker 4: Rica again to do ayahuasca arrhythmia. When I saw I
Speaker 4: went to rhythmia. When I was on my deep dive
Speaker 4: of where did Jesus go all those years, and like
Speaker 4: you know, all the things. I saw a video Gerald Powell,
Speaker 4: He's the founder of rhythmia. I saw his story. He
Speaker 4: was addicted to sex and gambling and alcohol and drugs
Speaker 4: and everything, and his friend challenged him to do a
Speaker 4: plant medicine. It wasn't ayahuasca was something else, and he
Speaker 4: went to the jungle and he did it, and he
Speaker 4: cured his addictions. He was revealed this experience that happened
Speaker 4: when he was a little boy of being abused, and
Speaker 4: all of his addictions were cured. And he was a hotelier.
Speaker 4: He had big like you know, hotels and stuff that
Speaker 4: he had launched. He took his skills. He created Rhythm,
Speaker 4: a life advancement center. The moment I saw it, I
Speaker 4: knew I was going there. I didn't know how, I
Speaker 4: didn't know when, but I knew that I was going there.
Speaker 4: And you know those people that come into your life,
Speaker 4: this man came into my life. I was doing trade
Speaker 4: with this business coach and she said, will you work
Speaker 4: with my company? And I said sure, and I work
Speaker 4: with the company. And she said, will you go in
Speaker 4: this symposium it's down in Florida, And I said sure,
Speaker 4: And I went down to the symposium and I walked
Speaker 4: in and I walked up to the owner of the
Speaker 4: company and I said, Steve, it's Pamela High. It's so
Speaker 4: nice to meet you. And he looked at me. I
Speaker 4: looked at him. We shook hands, and this energy came
Speaker 4: through both of our heads, out our hearts.
Speaker 2: And went whoooo.
Speaker 4: And he looked at me and he said, do you
Speaker 4: feel that? And I said, I do, and I mean
Speaker 4: I didn't. I couldn't look at him like I've never.
Speaker 2: Experienced anything like that either.
Speaker 4: I sound like a crazy person, but this this is
Speaker 4: my reality. And I went to the symposium and I
Speaker 4: learned and it was fun and I met people. And
Speaker 4: when I came home, I was sitting working. I was
Speaker 4: on a zoom call. My phone rings. I see this
Speaker 4: odd number and I look at it. I hear Steve
Speaker 4: and I went back on my call. When it was done,
Speaker 4: I listened to the message and he was like, Pamela,
Speaker 4: this is Steve. I want to talk about what that
Speaker 4: experience was. Give me a callbacks. I called him back
Speaker 4: later and he said, you know, we talked about that
Speaker 4: and he said, well, you know, I'm on my way.
Speaker 4: I'm going on a trip. I'm going to do ayahuasca.
Speaker 4: But I never I don't really ever share this with
Speaker 4: people in business. It's not something I would ever say.
Speaker 4: And I was like ayahuasca. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm going to do ayahuasca. I'm going to go to Rhythm,
Speaker 4: a life advancement center. I'm not sure when I don't
Speaker 4: know how, and he goes, Pamela, I'm going to rid
Speaker 4: me in November.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you're not.
Speaker 4: Like, nobody talks about this, like nine to five business stuff.
Speaker 2: Nobody's talking about it.
Speaker 4: And we wound up becoming friends, very good friends. And
Speaker 4: I kept hearing he's going to invite you, He's going
Speaker 4: to invite you, and I was like, we'll see. So
Speaker 4: he came back to me and he said, Pamela, I'm
Speaker 4: being guided to invite you to this. There's yeah, there's
Speaker 4: you guys never heard this.
Speaker 2: They're shutting down. No, it's the coolest thing.
Speaker 4: Normally there's like one hundred hundred and ten people there,
Speaker 4: all going to clear addictions, to clear trauma, to clear
Speaker 4: you know, there's an energy to that, right, there's a
Speaker 4: release event.
Speaker 2: There's an environment to that. He said, Pamela.
Speaker 4: One of the people in my group, the Transformation of
Speaker 4: Leadership Council. One of the people in this group is
Speaker 4: one of the founders of Rhythmia. They're shutting the whole
Speaker 4: place down and only the members of Rhythmia are going
Speaker 4: to I mean, the members of TLC are going to
Speaker 4: be there. Only four forty high conscious people are going
Speaker 4: to be there. You're going to love them. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: he goes, you're just going to enjoy them so much
Speaker 4: and you have to pay your own way and you can,
Speaker 4: you know, join us. But and I was like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, this is incredible. Well I wound up getting
Speaker 4: a tax return check that was exactly what I needed
Speaker 4: to go to rhythmia. I mean, this is how much
Speaker 4: the universe wants me to do this.
Speaker 2: There's this.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't make this up. Yeah, And I
Speaker 4: went and I was scared. You know, when you go
Speaker 4: to do a sacred plant medicine, and for those of
Speaker 4: you who are listening and thinking about ayahuasca and considering
Speaker 4: plant medicine, it is a very, very very intentional experience.
Speaker 4: You must have a calling for it. It's not something to
Speaker 4: dabble in, to mess around with, to take lightly at all.
Speaker 2: And I knew that.
Speaker 4: But I also knew this moving through fear courage, Moving
Speaker 4: through fear and courage was my work. And I also
Speaker 4: knew every time I got on that stage to sing
Speaker 4: David Bowie was my work. I don't know, I knew
Speaker 4: I had to get on the stage to get out
Speaker 4: there in front of people, and I was petrified every time.
Speaker 4: But I did it, and I'm terrified and that whole
Speaker 4: week long, we did ayahuasca every night for four nights,
Speaker 4: multiple times a night. I cleared so much trauma from
Speaker 4: this life, from past lives. I elevated my frequency every
Speaker 4: time I had a revelation or worked on my energy body.
Speaker 4: By the end of the week, we did a breath
Speaker 4: work class and I was flying high. We're eating vegan,
Speaker 4: I'm working on my energy body. I'm having these amazing
Speaker 4: experiences with music, and.
Speaker 2: It was just beautiful.
Speaker 4: We did this breath work class and it's almost like
Speaker 4: Cundolini yoga, so you're like you're getting yourself into this
Speaker 4: elevated state. And this light shot through my third eye
Speaker 4: filled my whole body up with this vibration. I heard crackle, crackle,
Speaker 4: crackle in my head, and I heard, your psychic abilities
Speaker 4: have been enhanced. Everything from this moment for it will
Speaker 4: be different. And that's what happened. That was November twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: Now I came home and COVID came, you know, several
Speaker 4: months later, and I'm still in the essence and the
Speaker 4: spirit of this sacred plant medicine I was. I still
Speaker 4: was having the experiences that I was having in rhythmia.
Speaker 4: I had this bank of time because the world shut
Speaker 4: down and everything was different, where I was able to
Speaker 4: sit every morning in intention and just say and show
Speaker 4: up with no attachments. This is what I tell my
Speaker 4: clients all the time. I don't like the word clients
Speaker 4: when trying to find a new word for them, the
Speaker 4: people that I work with.
Speaker 2: You have to say to.
Speaker 4: The universe, I am here, I am open, I am
Speaker 4: ready to receive. Let's work together. I want you to
Speaker 4: show me a feather and I want you to do this,
Speaker 4: and I want to like you have to. You are
Speaker 4: opening up without attachments, zero attachments, and saying I'm ready,
Speaker 4: I'm willing, I want this, this is what I want,
Speaker 4: and let's have a relationship, just like you would do
Speaker 4: for anyone in your life that you wanted to create
Speaker 4: a relationship with. And I did that and I started
Speaker 4: it started at first with this amazing, beautiful group of divine,
Speaker 4: feminine energies that were effervescent and floating and absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 4: And they came in and I started doing releasing the
Speaker 4: trauma from past life deaths. I started experiencing the deaths
Speaker 4: and releasing them, so I had to experience them, and
Speaker 4: then I had to feel the sorrow of them, and
Speaker 4: then I would release it from my body. It happened
Speaker 4: over and over again every morning for I don't know,
Speaker 4: for several for like a month, several months. And every
Speaker 4: time I did that, I was raising my frequency. I
Speaker 4: was elevating my energy and my energy body and my vibration.
Speaker 4: And I did that over and over and over again.
Speaker 4: And as I was raising my frequency, I was having
Speaker 4: experiences with angelic beings, with ets, with light language, with
Speaker 4: like all these different things, and I was open to
Speaker 4: experiencing them. I worked with a person here or there
Speaker 4: that came on my path to help me navigate, but
Speaker 4: I did a lot of it myself. And I remember
Speaker 4: the day that the light language came in. I was
Speaker 4: just sitting there and I could feel like almost like
Speaker 4: a spireing, like a thread coming down, coming down heard,
Speaker 4: and it just went right into my body and I
Speaker 4: was elevating my frequency again. And then the Council wanted
Speaker 4: to start coming in. I didn't know they were the
Speaker 4: council at that point, and I started having pressure on
Speaker 4: the back of my head. It's where it's called the
Speaker 4: atlas and the mouth of God. I mean, it was
Speaker 4: just like, can I get a break here. It was
Speaker 4: like one thing after the next thing after.
Speaker 2: The next thing.
Speaker 4: But I had these little angels who would come into
Speaker 4: my life and help me navigate. And you met one
Speaker 4: of them the last time we were on. She had
Speaker 4: the same experience with her Atlas, And you know, everyone
Speaker 4: comes to help you when they need to. And then
Speaker 4: through the through flexing that muscle of trying to channel
Speaker 4: and trying to meet these angelic beings at a frequency
Speaker 4: or I was raising mine and they were lowering theirs,
Speaker 4: and I was able to have this transference of energy.
Speaker 4: That's where the trans channeling started. It was really really
Speaker 4: really cool. It's very cool. So ET's would come through me.
Speaker 4: I would feel the way that their their physicality was,
Speaker 4: I would feel their vibration. I would speak their language.
Speaker 4: I had to have like a crash course of all
Speaker 4: of them. I had negative energies per me my being.
Speaker 4: I had experiences with really deep, dark, scary energies. But
Speaker 4: that's not anything to be fearful of. It's learning. All
Speaker 4: that is. You have to have the contrast to understand it.
Speaker 4: It's like anything else. You have to have the light
Speaker 4: and the dark. They go together. You can't have you know,
Speaker 4: the dark and the light room. So you have to
Speaker 4: understand that, and especially if you're going to be channeling beings,
Speaker 4: you really need to understand what the frequencies are.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm out.
Speaker 2: I hope you will. Can you choose how you get
Speaker 2: to channel?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You do?
Speaker 1: You do it?
Speaker 2: Actually?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, Well you.
Speaker 2: Can have discernment. You most definitely can have just.
Speaker 1: All right, I just want bunnies and Santa Claus and yes, bunnies.
Speaker 1: I love bunnies. Fluffy and soft and it's cute and
Speaker 1: cut but it's okay, Yeah, I just want to hang.
Speaker 2: Out with Your audience is laughing right now at me.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's me. But I'm okay, that's okay. No,
Speaker 1: your story is remarkable, and you know when you have
Speaker 1: someone on the show and you forget that you're a
Speaker 1: podcast host and you just sit there and just listening,
Speaker 1: and you forget I'm supposed to ask a question here,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening. I could literally just sit here
Speaker 1: and listen to you because if every once in a
Speaker 1: while you come across the story that just captivates you.
Speaker 1: And my life is on tape delay, so I have
Speaker 1: I subscribe to a thousand podcasts, and I subscribe to
Speaker 1: Alex's podcast and I haven't gotten to yours yet, so
Speaker 1: I don't know what you talked to him about. But
Speaker 1: now I'm going to go fast forward to it to
Speaker 1: that one because I'm I'm excited to hear what it's
Speaker 1: about because I haven't gotten to it yet. But yeah,
Speaker 1: in your estimation, because you have access to obviously the Council,
Speaker 1: but all kinds of different entities that come through you,
Speaker 1: so you have access to a lot of information that
Speaker 1: humanity really needs to know right now. What out of
Speaker 1: if you could discern one or two messages that are
Speaker 1: the most important that people need to know right now,
Speaker 1: What is the thing that's coming through the loudest in
Speaker 1: these times? We need to take a quick pause, but
Speaker 1: we'll be right back right after these messages, and now
Speaker 1: back to the skeptic metaphysicians, If you could discern one
Speaker 1: or two messages that are the most important that people
Speaker 1: need to know right now, what is the thing that's
Speaker 1: coming through the loudest in these times.
Speaker 4: Or individual frequency. They want you to understand that you
Speaker 4: are able to be prepared. What does that mean? It
Speaker 4: means really having discernment with every single thing in your life.
Speaker 4: What are you doing, what are you passing the hours by,
Speaker 4: what are you consuming, what are you thinking about, what
Speaker 4: are you talking about?
Speaker 2: What are you eating?
Speaker 1: And you're talking yours, yours in a general sense.
Speaker 2: Right, not yeah you individually?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, take that dial to yourself
Speaker 4: and say, because ultimately they want us to learn how
Speaker 4: to raise our vibrations, raise our frequencies. And if you
Speaker 4: just take just take today, you know, did you take
Speaker 4: time to eat something that was high vibrational? Did you
Speaker 4: sit around in gossip and waste time doing things that
Speaker 4: weren't serving you? Did you spend time with people that
Speaker 4: weren't serving you? Did you? You know, those sorts of things,
Speaker 4: because every single thing is a part of your frequency,
Speaker 4: a part of your vibration. With the shifts that are coming,
Speaker 4: they talk about, you know, fear with events that happen
Speaker 4: on the planet. There is fear with certain events that
Speaker 4: are coming. The stronger you are, the more sturdy you
Speaker 4: are in a storm. You know, you don't want to
Speaker 4: be a bullying pin that just gets knocked down. You
Speaker 4: want to be strong. You want to be prepared like
Speaker 4: you would if you were conditioning as an athlete or
Speaker 4: whatever you want. You want to I say this one
Speaker 4: hundred million times. You want to hold yourself in high regard.
Speaker 4: Look at yourself critically, take take you look like, look
Speaker 4: at your day, look at your what you're doing with
Speaker 4: your pastime, all the things. It's very important right now
Speaker 4: and to learn about that because I don't think that
Speaker 4: people are really kind of even thinking about it. They're
Speaker 4: just consuming idly. They're consuming the news, they're consuming social media,
Speaker 4: they're they're taking other people's truths as their own. And
Speaker 4: it's really all about like, what are you doing for you?
Speaker 2: What are you doing for you?
Speaker 4: And there's tools, there's resources, there's people that are available
Speaker 4: to you to help you work on that. On your frequency,
Speaker 4: that's one of the big things. And with that comes
Speaker 4: stop the.
Speaker 2: What are you fighting for? Why do you need to fight?
Speaker 1: You don't stop it?
Speaker 2: Stop it.
Speaker 4: There's no reason for it because you're just conditioned to
Speaker 4: do it continually over and over again. You're picking fights
Speaker 4: before you go and write a comment. Why do you
Speaker 4: need to You don't need to do it. Take your harness,
Speaker 4: your energy back, get your power back. Stop spreading it
Speaker 4: all over haphazardly. Pay attention. Okay, asolutely, that is the message.
Speaker 1: Wow, the best thing you can do is just remove
Speaker 1: yourself from any situation that you just don't feel aligned with.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense. Just there's no point it.
Speaker 1: There's no point in making strife or drama or we
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more.
Speaker 3: And if you are working to raise your vibrations, why
Speaker 3: put yourself in situations where you know you're going to
Speaker 3: get figgered and tempted. Just get out of that altogether.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, there's so many messages about that. You just
Speaker 4: politely excuse yourself from the situation. You should hear the
Speaker 4: way that the guides talk about it cracks me up.
Speaker 4: They like give scenarios, you know, but it's true. Don't
Speaker 4: spend time with family members you don't enjoy. You get
Speaker 4: to choose, You get to choose what you do, what
Speaker 4: you experience, yes or whomever that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't mean you don't wish the best for
Speaker 1: that family member, because you do. It's not you're not
Speaker 1: in alignment, that's all it is.
Speaker 2: So they made boundaries. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: So that is one of their big things. Another thing
Speaker 4: is just to be prepared that there are events that
Speaker 4: are coming to our planet. And you know I six
Speaker 4: months ago I think maybe no October, I got pushed
Speaker 4: you'll hear about that on his podcast. I got pushed
Speaker 4: to share my predictions, to share all the visions that
Speaker 4: I've had since twenty twenty, and they're about global events,
Speaker 4: they're about everything. And the moment I started doing that,
Speaker 4: like everything changed in my life because again I went
Speaker 4: out on stage because I stepped out of fear and
Speaker 4: the people say, why are you telling us this your
Speaker 4: fear mongering.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I came back at this particular time and Planet Earth
Speaker 4: with a contract with a great Council of Light to
Speaker 4: do this stuff. Like like I could be singing on
Speaker 4: stage and having fun in a costume, but I am
Speaker 4: here to channel these messages to help you be prepared,
Speaker 4: not scared. And so it's your perspective how you look
Speaker 4: at it, really, And they teach about love, they teach
Speaker 4: about vibration, and they teach about just being prepared and ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you bring up a good question, because we've
Speaker 1: had lots of people on the show to talk about
Speaker 1: us choosing our reality and the things that sometimes people
Speaker 1: predict and they say and we've heard We've had people
Speaker 1: come on and say this is coming, this is coming,
Speaker 1: this is coming. But we can all select our own reality.
Speaker 1: We choose this timeline, we will experience this. If we
Speaker 1: choose a different timeline, we may experience something else. Is
Speaker 1: that something that you adhere to as well? Or No?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and guid say that we have our individual experiences
Speaker 4: and our collective experiences in every every time you make
Speaker 4: a choice, you are affecting a timeline which collect which
Speaker 4: collectively is effect. It's affected collectively. So yeah, there's simultaneous
Speaker 4: realities happening all of the time, and all of these
Speaker 4: things relate to you know what timeline's here.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: It's interesting because I'm learning my skill now, you know,
Speaker 4: and I'm learning it publicly. And I have make mistakes too,
Speaker 4: because I'm human and I'm trying to discern information. When
Speaker 4: I get a vision in the middle of the night
Speaker 4: that wakes me up on vacation and it's it shows
Speaker 4: me a bank of weeks, and then the next thing
Speaker 4: shows me the third week of October. I'm the one
Speaker 4: sitting there trying to put these pieces together. Sure, having
Speaker 4: already seen tsunamis and having seen you know, an awareness
Speaker 4: campaign of very friendly and loving ships in the sky
Speaker 4: having seen a fake alien invasion. I mean, I have
Speaker 4: a library of visions that I've seen for for planet Earth.
Speaker 4: Who knows when they're happening. So I'm sitting there going
Speaker 4: when is four weeks? When is the third week of
Speaker 4: like I'm putting all the pieces together. Well, it happened
Speaker 4: to be the week that next level soul invitation came
Speaker 4: in my inbox. It was it had nothing to do
Speaker 4: with the rest of the world, but it had.
Speaker 2: Some different for me, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's like, right, yeah, it's incredible, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: So how do we choose the best timeline so that
Speaker 1: all the bad shit stays away? Yes, and all the.
Speaker 4: Good highest stay in your highest and best, Stay in
Speaker 4: your highest and best.
Speaker 1: No gossiping, no drama, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You always want to feel like everything you're doing and
Speaker 4: you're saying that's coming out of you is the highest
Speaker 4: and best. You'll have no problems.
Speaker 3: And so then.
Speaker 2: With all of these these.
Speaker 3: Visions and these events that are happening that seem like
Speaker 3: they might not be the most pleasant, is the overall
Speaker 3: effect a positive one?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, it's absolutely Yeah. The systems have to break
Speaker 4: down for it to be replaced with beauty. And that's
Speaker 4: what's happening now. And the infrastructure that has created our reality,
Speaker 4: which is a lower frequency dynamic that a lot of
Speaker 4: people are entangled in, has to be untangled. It has
Speaker 4: to be broken down. And the only way, just like
Speaker 4: I tell everyone to learn a sheet of music, you
Speaker 4: have to work through it. To create a painting, you
Speaker 4: have to work through it. There's only one way to
Speaker 4: get through it. Can't go around it, up on top
Speaker 4: of it, or blow it. You got to go through it.
Speaker 4: So that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing, and
Speaker 4: that's why you're here. And I'm here to help everyone
Speaker 4: as much as we can. You know, I never, like
Speaker 4: I said before fifty four, like I'm just starting something.
Speaker 4: I have a baby that's just starting to walk and
Speaker 4: you know, and soon hopefully be running all over the place.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's this is the time right now.
Speaker 4: And I really said I was ready for in another
Speaker 4: place in time.
Speaker 1: Can I can I take that back? Yeah? No, I
Speaker 1: totally understand h And we are in the age of Aquarius,
Speaker 1: right every everyone, not everyone. A lot of people that
Speaker 1: we talk to say the same thing that that big
Speaker 1: changes are coming. It's all for the highest good. And
Speaker 1: you're right. I think the the institutions that we currently have,
Speaker 1: you see, you see evidently they're broken. They are broken.
Speaker 1: There's no denying it anymore. When when you go when
Speaker 1: I broke my ankle in Europe over the summer, and
Speaker 1: I was happened, I was. I was fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: be in a country where I was able to be
Speaker 1: tweeted for a very fair amount of money. I came
Speaker 1: back to this country and two sessions of physical therapy
Speaker 1: costs me three times what I paid, four times what
Speaker 1: I paid in that country, just physical theory, paid by myself.
Speaker 1: That that shouldn't be. That shouldn't be because because and
Speaker 1: that was after my insurance company paid right right so,
Speaker 1: or before my insurance aren't paid for anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we're talking doctor ambulance, ride, radiologists, casts all
Speaker 3: over there for nothing, right.
Speaker 1: And that's just one institution. We're talking about one, And
Speaker 1: when you look at all of it as a whole,
Speaker 1: you can make an argument for almost I would. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any institution that we currently have
Speaker 1: that isn't No.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they talk about it all the time, they say,
Speaker 4: are our healthcare, our finance, our entertainment, our music, even
Speaker 4: our influencers, education, government, They talk about it, just talked
Speaker 4: about it recently and they said something very interesting about
Speaker 4: even the ways of creating retirements. You know, it's like
Speaker 4: everything single thing has been laid out for us, every
Speaker 4: single thing, and there's new ways to doing things. There's
Speaker 4: new ways to creating. And I channeled I'm about to
Speaker 4: do it again, should be done next week, a predictions video,
Speaker 4: an energy update for twenty twenty five. I did it
Speaker 4: for twenty twenty four, and the guide said that there
Speaker 4: would be an assassination attempt on Trump, and they said
Speaker 4: that the music industry would start to break down. People
Speaker 4: would fall far from their positions and you know, be exposed.
Speaker 2: And that happened. It did.
Speaker 4: It happened last year. And there's more of that I did.
Speaker 4: I did channel at twenty twenty five. It got heavy,
Speaker 4: so I walked away and I go back and I might,
Speaker 4: you know, but but.
Speaker 2: You know, not heavy in a bad way.
Speaker 4: Heavy and that there's going to be a lot of
Speaker 4: things that happen and to create that breakdown, to create
Speaker 4: that rebuild.
Speaker 1: We did hear the twenty five is the rough year, right,
Speaker 1: we did Yeah, one more year. Twenty five is the year.
Speaker 1: Then once we get beyond twenty five, things are going
Speaker 1: to start to get a little bit better. So just
Speaker 1: hang in there, and you're right.
Speaker 2: In there, everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're here, we're here, the
Speaker 1: network is here, everyone's here. We have lots of people here.
Speaker 1: They're here to help.
Speaker 3: We just have to be grateful for what we have.
Speaker 3: Find find things to be thankful for. Look for the
Speaker 3: gratitude because when you get in that mode, it helps
Speaker 3: you to it makes everything a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Right, So let's change your perspective here, right, because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we're talking about that makes
Speaker 1: people go, oh my god, I don't want to have
Speaker 1: to go it's it's actually was it Michael Singer. The
Speaker 1: book I'm reading right now talks about you hang on
Speaker 1: to these sem scarem sim Sarah sim scares whatever. It's
Speaker 1: these these thought forms that if you hang on to
Speaker 1: it like a you see a rattlesnake and oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're so scared of rattlesnake, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everything you were minds you rale snake. That that image
Speaker 1: no ratl snake, that image is stuck in your mind.
Speaker 1: So you always have you live in that fear. Everything
Speaker 1: that's happening it you let it pass through you. It
Speaker 1: doesn't affect you. It's not a matter of of letting
Speaker 1: it get stuck in your psyche. It's a matter of point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's understanding that it is. Everything is exactly as opposed to.
Speaker 1: It's gonna maybe affect you for a second, but it's
Speaker 1: just that moment. Everything is going to pass through and
Speaker 1: it's going to be we are endless beings and this
Speaker 1: physical reality. Yes, this physical reality is not the end
Speaker 1: all for us. This is just a blip in time
Speaker 1: for us and it's going to get better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: There's an excerpt from the end of the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five This is the January message, a channel for my community,
Speaker 4: and it was all about you are the creator of
Speaker 4: your reality. What have you said that you wanted to
Speaker 4: create in your life? Write it down, measure everything, review everything.
Speaker 4: What is it that you said. Don't hold back from
Speaker 4: anything that you've said in your life.
Speaker 2: Write it down.
Speaker 4: Now, write down what you have created. Now compare the
Speaker 4: two and realize that you are the center of your existence.
Speaker 4: Everything must go through you to create it. You create it,
Speaker 4: and it talked all about how to do that, and
Speaker 4: then the very end of it, it says this year
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five will be abundant for those who
Speaker 4: are able to visualize themselves and regain their power to
Speaker 4: create the life that is centered around themselves that they desire.
Speaker 4: Nothing will stand in the way of that. No war,
Speaker 4: no confusion, no misdirection of your world. You stand as
Speaker 4: a dynamic force that you are and draw all to you.
Speaker 4: You draw to you, You draw what you want to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's as granular. We're talking to our daughter
Speaker 1: about this the other day. It's as granular or anything
Speaker 1: you say after the words I am so You got
Speaker 1: to be so careful. How many times have you said
Speaker 1: I'm so tired?
Speaker 3: Okay, you go, Or like our nephew is saying, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm saying if if you say I apologize, because if
Speaker 3: you're saying I'm sorry, you're saying you're a sorry person.
Speaker 3: If you did something else, say I apologize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's it. We're so programmed and it's by design.
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 4: We could talk about that another time with exactly talked
Speaker 4: like two hours about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely definitely. So tell us about because you have
Speaker 1: a spirit calling live The Call is A is a
Speaker 1: wildly inspiring podcast. That's cool. Yeah, it is very cool.
Speaker 1: Tell us about that? What what? What's yeah happening with that?
Speaker 4: Well, it started out as a community call because I
Speaker 4: wanted to highlight people that were that had listen. They
Speaker 4: heard it, they heard that little whisper of their spirit calling,
Speaker 4: and then they answered it. They actually took the conviction,
Speaker 4: took it and owned it, and now they're living it.
Speaker 4: So that's what we talk about in our community, is
Speaker 4: hearing it, answering it, and living it. And I wanted
Speaker 4: to show people who were living it. So I interview
Speaker 4: people that are living their soul's purpose and they start
Speaker 4: out by sharing their awakening story. It's an inspiration for
Speaker 4: people to say, hey, I can do that, oh my
Speaker 4: god like kind of what I did on the podcast.
Speaker 4: This is what my life story was, this is what
Speaker 4: I was experiencing, This is how I picked myself up
Speaker 4: or this is how I redirected myself, and this is
Speaker 4: how I fulfilled my dreams I had this woman that
Speaker 4: I met with last week, joding. She was she loved
Speaker 4: riding horses, this little spitfire with red hair and freckles.
Speaker 4: I mean her picture, she's just so damn cute. She
Speaker 4: had an accident, lost her right hand. Well that didn't
Speaker 4: stop her. She got on a horse two weeks later
Speaker 4: and she has Now she'd this long story of loss
Speaker 4: and marriage and this and that and all these things.
Speaker 4: She heard spirits say, finish what you started, and she
Speaker 4: started this horse therapy foundation and like it's amazing. You know,
Speaker 4: it's just wonderful to hear these stories and to see
Speaker 4: what people are doing. So that's what Lived the Call
Speaker 4: is about. I love doing that, and I interview people
Speaker 4: from my life. You know, I'm slowly bringing in some
Speaker 4: of the people that were at the Ayahuasca Journey with me.
Speaker 4: One of them was Ken Honda. Yeah yeah, he's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So he did my Live the Call and a couple
Speaker 4: of months ago, and I'm trying to get some others that,
Speaker 4: you know, to tell their stories. And then I like,
Speaker 4: just you know, average people that nobody knows, like, you know,
Speaker 4: they they flipped their life upside down and you know,
Speaker 4: left corporate America to create, you know, something that they
Speaker 4: really wanted to create to help people. So that's what
Speaker 4: lived the Call is. Yeah, and that feels me. It
Speaker 4: makes me excited that I can bring that to the
Speaker 4: world in my community. And then inside of the community,
Speaker 4: we have our Awakeners Hour, which we actually have like
Speaker 4: a practitioner or someone who's in the energy field or
Speaker 4: you know, one.
Speaker 2: Of they could be.
Speaker 4: I love the call, but they lead a session and
Speaker 4: they teach about their modality so that the scratchers and
Speaker 4: the seekers who are coming get educated to and can
Speaker 4: experience in a kashak record release or you know, an
Speaker 4: emotional block experience or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so how do you handle all that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have a whole other business. I just got the
Speaker 2: council helping her.
Speaker 1: I do, I do?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 4: It's funny, it's it's it's a giant lesson of surrender.
Speaker 4: Because when I get stuck in my head with balance
Speaker 4: sheets and projections, and because I run a branding and
Speaker 4: marketing firm.
Speaker 2: I have four employees. I do that during the day.
Speaker 4: I have this which you know, it's a baby, and
Speaker 4: I have all these moving parts to it.
Speaker 2: But when I get caught.
Speaker 4: Up in the house and the whys and the how
Speaker 4: is this going to happen? When I'm laying in bed,
Speaker 4: you know, then you you get an inbox invitation. And
Speaker 4: I didn't have to do anything. I didn't ask to
Speaker 4: be on that podcast.
Speaker 2: It came to me.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, you know, amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you one last story that I think
Speaker 4: is important. I lived in outside of Philadelphia, New Jersey
Speaker 4: for twenty four years and my beloved who I met
Speaker 4: the universe introduced us. I was in Florida, he was
Speaker 4: in Florida and we met one weekend. Just it happened
Speaker 4: that way. And after I had had many long distance relationships,
Speaker 4: I said, I'm never going to do it again. And
Speaker 4: I watched Jim Carrey's Yes ma'am, oh yeah, and it
Speaker 4: changed my life because I'd decided to start saying yes again.
Speaker 4: And I met him and he was like, well, should
Speaker 4: we try to meet? And I was like, yes. That
Speaker 4: was a me mom, like I'm two and a half
Speaker 4: hours away. But I tell you that because I was
Speaker 4: doing this long distance thing for a while and my
Speaker 4: youngest was going to college last spring, I wasn't going
Speaker 4: to sell my house until last year. I wasn't going
Speaker 4: to till twenty twenty four in twenty twenty three. In
Speaker 4: April in twenty twenty three, I woke up in the
Speaker 4: middle of the night and I saw a for sale
Speaker 4: by owner sign on the front of my house. I
Speaker 4: heard how much to sell it for as is cash
Speaker 4: fast sell, and I got up and I went, I'm
Speaker 4: not ready to sell my house. I'm not ready to
Speaker 4: do that. I walked across the street that morning to
Speaker 4: bring my dog to a playdate to my neighbors and
Speaker 4: she said, what are you going to do when your
Speaker 4: young youngest goes to college. I said, I just decided
Speaker 4: I'm going to sell my house today. She goes, do
Speaker 4: you know that my dad loves your house? He knew
Speaker 4: the woman that lived there. They already draw drew architect
Speaker 4: plans to put a second floor on it. I sold
Speaker 4: it in hours, and I said, listen, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to sell it for anything less than this. I want
Speaker 4: to walk away from the table with it. But I
Speaker 4: can't leave until I get everything done and I get
Speaker 4: this kid to college.
Speaker 2: I can't leave until like August.
Speaker 4: You can choose your date whatever you want, and that's
Speaker 4: why I knew that Spirit wanted me to invest in
Speaker 4: building the marketing for this and building on all the
Speaker 4: pieces for this. I built the platform, but I needed
Speaker 4: to start telling the world about it. And because I listened,
Speaker 4: because I listened, spirits like, we've got you. We understand
Speaker 4: how convicted you are about this and this is why
Speaker 4: you know this. This is happening. So it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1: And I hear that you do. You did all those
Speaker 1: all those trade stuff, so we have nothing to trade,
Speaker 1: but we'd love to do trade with you. To think
Speaker 1: about it, nothing about it.
Speaker 2: That's so funny, correct me?
Speaker 1: Oft Well, I love spirit calling. If someone wanted to
Speaker 1: get involved with it, what's the best way or listen
Speaker 1: to your podcast or get in touch with you. What's
Speaker 1: the best way for someone to reach out?
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you for asking me. It was really
Speaker 4: important for me. That's that everyone have a way to
Speaker 4: get to me. I didn't want money to be a
Speaker 4: big issue. So the community is a very low monthly fee.
Speaker 4: You get a ton of things. You get events, you
Speaker 4: get resources, you get of curated sound healing every month
Speaker 4: that's curated just for our community, and it's beautiful. You
Speaker 4: get access to me. That's at spirit Deshcalling dot com.
Speaker 4: And then I have the Live the Call podcast. It's
Speaker 4: on my YouTube at Spirit Calling Pamela, my Instagram and
Speaker 4: TikTok at Spirit Calling Panela, and Facebook is Spirit Calling
Speaker 4: Live the Call. But I want to tell people that
Speaker 4: you are able to work with me to channel a
Speaker 4: message from your guides. This is really valuable information. I
Speaker 4: have helped so many people change their lives just by
Speaker 4: getting confirmation or something resolve or just the slightest bit
Speaker 4: of a kick in the butt or something they just
Speaker 4: needed to hear. I've had people also move change their life,
Speaker 4: their jobs show up when they exactly what they needed
Speaker 4: in the town and household for you know, twice as
Speaker 4: much what they offer. Like it's incredible down to you know,
Speaker 4: people wanting to know where their loved ones are or
Speaker 4: maybe having a health issue or something. So there's three
Speaker 4: different ways to work with me on my Pamela Work
Speaker 4: with Me page and you can find it on Spirit
Speaker 4: Calling and it's my greatest joy. I freaking love it.
Speaker 3: Well you can tell just.
Speaker 1: Like energy definitely absolutely eminade. But we're going to add
Speaker 1: a direct link in our show notes so people can
Speaker 1: go to our website. If they're so inclined that, obviously
Speaker 1: they can go to yours directly. But if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you didn't have a pin at that particular point
Speaker 1: in time, you know you're always good to sceptum a
Speaker 1: position dot com go to her episode page and you
Speaker 1: will see a link directly in there, so it's easy
Speaker 1: for you to reach out to Pamela such this just
Speaker 1: feels like a homecoming. It's been so wonderful a time
Speaker 1: to thanks so much for coming back. Hopefully I know
Speaker 1: this won't be the last time. Yes, we love you,
Speaker 1: and we hope that that that we will find some
Speaker 1: way to combine forces and collaborate and trade. You will
Speaker 1: find a way, Yes, I'll find a way to do
Speaker 1: a trade.
Speaker 2: That sounds awesome.
Speaker 4: I love seeing you guys too and everything that you're doing,
Speaker 4: and I can't wait to come back again for sure. Sound.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much?
Speaker 1: All right, thanks to talk soon.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, Bye bye, and a huge.
Speaker 1: Thank you to you. We know that there are tons
Speaker 1: of options out there, and having you decide to come
Speaker 1: along on our journey of discovery is an absolute honor
Speaker 1: for us. If you know someone who would benefit from
Speaker 1: hearing the message we're sharing on the show. Do them
Speaker 1: and us a favor and share the show with them.
Speaker 1: It will help get the word out and it might
Speaker 1: just change someone's life for the better. Well that's all
Speaker 1: for now. We will see you on the next episode
Speaker 1: of The Skeptic Metaphysicians. Until then, take care,