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Speaker 3: Today is Wednesday, Wednesday, the Wednesday, the fourteenth, fifteenth, fifteenth
Speaker 3: of July. That means we're halfway through the summer here,
Speaker 3: summer's almost gone.
Speaker 1: It's exactly the halfway point. You know, we got six
Speaker 1: weeks of summer left.
Speaker 3: And then Las Vegas turns beautiful. It's a great place
Speaker 3: to live, like nine months a year. I'm not really
Speaker 3: thrilled about June, July, August. So we're almost there, almost there,
Speaker 3: but it's still beautiful. You know why, because I'm a
Speaker 3: sun guy. You know, Liberals live in place like Portland,
Speaker 3: Seattle and Minnesota because it's always cloudy and raining in
Speaker 3: the summer and miserable all winter, because they're miserable, dark people, negative.
Speaker 1: People, and mostly ugly people.
Speaker 3: And the people in Las Vegas are beautiful women in
Speaker 3: the world, just like La sunny beauty women. But Vegas
Speaker 3: is filled with beautiful women, suns always out, even when
Speaker 3: it's hot in the summer.
Speaker 1: You got beautiful women and the suns out. That's good
Speaker 1: enough for me. So here's the deal.
Speaker 3: I want to mention a show that I watched today
Speaker 3: because I work out in the gym two hours a day.
Speaker 1: As I've said.
Speaker 3: Before, the only way you could make it through a
Speaker 3: two hour workout is is if you watch movies or
Speaker 3: TV shows.
Speaker 1: And I watched a documentary actually today I.
Speaker 3: Watched it, probably, but I don't know about sixty percent
Speaker 3: movies and like thirty percent TV shows and maybe ten
Speaker 3: percent documentaries. And I watched a documentary today called Shipwrecked
Speaker 3: Nightmare at Sea, and it was a documentary, a real
Speaker 3: life story about a cruise ship that hit rocks off
Speaker 3: the coast of Italy. The captain evidently screwed up badly
Speaker 3: and hit rocks and it ripped a hole in the
Speaker 3: hull and the ship sunk.
Speaker 1: And it sunk right off the shore.
Speaker 3: So I mean, people could swim, you know, just literally
Speaker 3: a few yards and they'd be at the port.
Speaker 1: But it's still deep, and some.
Speaker 3: People don't have to swim, and they were all kinds
Speaker 3: of problems, and I think seventy people wound up dying.
Speaker 3: And it was one of the great Maritimes disasters, not
Speaker 3: you know, quite the level of the Titantic where everything
Speaker 3: pretty much half the Boka wiped out, but nonetheless it
Speaker 3: was a major cruise line or gigantic cruise ship that
Speaker 3: sunk right off of Italy's shores. And I wanted to
Speaker 3: tell you the lessons I learned in watching the show.
Speaker 3: First of all, they lost electricity as the ship started
Speaker 3: to go under, and it was dark. And there was
Speaker 3: a guy who was one of the stars of this documentary.
Speaker 3: Him and his wife were on the boat with their
Speaker 3: brand new one year old daughter, and they were climbing
Speaker 3: upstairs because every the announcements kept saying, go back to
Speaker 3: your go back to your room, go back to your room.
Speaker 3: Everything's okay, go back to your room. And every person,
Speaker 3: to a man and a woman on this documentary that
Speaker 3: heard that message, go back to your room, every single
Speaker 3: one of them disobeyed the order and got to the
Speaker 3: rowboats and lived, and the people who listened died, which
Speaker 3: is such an important lesson you must learn everyone. Whenever
Speaker 3: you're an announcement, the people making the announcement are liars
Speaker 3: and scumbags, and they know nothing, and if they do
Speaker 3: know something, they're lying to you on purpose to keep
Speaker 3: there from being a panic, or to make sure that
Speaker 3: you don't go to the lifeboat. And I'm not sure
Speaker 3: about boats. Just in life and the World Trade Center
Speaker 3: during nine to one one.
Speaker 1: Whatever message you here, do the opposite. Go back to
Speaker 1: your office.
Speaker 3: No, get to the stairs and go down, because the
Speaker 3: building's gonna collapse.
Speaker 1: Go back to your room.
Speaker 3: No, don't go back to your cabin and slash room
Speaker 3: because the ship is gonna sink and.
Speaker 1: You're gonna die.
Speaker 3: Don't listen to anything they tell you, So the announcement,
Speaker 3: announcement or the announcer on the announcement is saying, go
Speaker 3: back to your room, go back to your room, and
Speaker 3: everything's okay, and they're low kying it.
Speaker 1: You know, we've had a slight accident. Wasn't a slight accident.
Speaker 3: The entire hall was ripped open and the entire ocean
Speaker 3: was pouring in, and the captain is acting as if
Speaker 3: everything's okay.
Speaker 1: And lesson number one.
Speaker 3: Lesson number one is this guy and his wife going
Speaker 3: up the stairs with a one year old baby. And
Speaker 3: I thought of myself, going back to my football days.
Speaker 3: If I had my one year old baby in my
Speaker 3: arm and then there were people trying to block me
Speaker 3: from getting a lifeboat or stop me from going up
Speaker 3: the stairs, I would knock them unconscious.
Speaker 1: I would knock their teeth out.
Speaker 3: I would grab a I would grab anything I could grab,
Speaker 3: a share a desk, a fire exting well, shure and
Speaker 3: hit him in the head, kill him if I had
Speaker 3: to to protect my wife and my child. Very important
Speaker 3: lesson you do what you have to do. And I
Speaker 3: thought that I should bring this up to start the
Speaker 3: show because I want to apply it to America. What
Speaker 3: do I love America? What do you love America?
Speaker 1: And what do you have to do.
Speaker 3: Protect America at all costs. Protect the country you love.
Speaker 3: That's the greatest nation of world history, under attack from communists,
Speaker 3: transgender weirdos, illegal alliens, foreign invaders, foreign globalist enemies who
Speaker 3: are looking to sink your ship, which is your country.
Speaker 3: And you have got to do what you got to do,
Speaker 3: if you have to kill them to get him out
Speaker 3: of the way, if you have to hit him in
Speaker 3: the head with a firing stinguish your You carry your
Speaker 3: country to your bosom.
Speaker 1: Like you love it. And liberals don't love it. They
Speaker 1: hate it. They're scum, their scumbags, and they're evil. And
Speaker 1: so that's the first lesson. Treat them like you would
Speaker 1: treat a one year old baby.
Speaker 3: As you're running to a lifeboat and other people are
Speaker 3: trying to get on ahead of you. You gotta do
Speaker 3: what you gotta do to hold on tight, protect the
Speaker 3: things you love, your wife, your baby, and make sure
Speaker 3: you make it.
Speaker 1: And who wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: Only communist traders would not love and protect their country America. Right.
Speaker 3: I want you to think of walking to a bad
Speaker 3: neighborhood at night, right, a really rough, dangerous, high crime
Speaker 3: riden neighbor But you're driving through it. Your car stalls,
Speaker 3: your car stops, or you have a flat tire, your
Speaker 3: engine seizes, and now you got to get out of
Speaker 3: the car to bad neighbor and you gotta walk for help.
Speaker 3: You better hold your baby and hold your wife's hand,
Speaker 3: or maybe you could turn into a natural disaster. You're
Speaker 3: facing a tornado, a hurricane, a flood. You better hold
Speaker 3: your family's hand and never let go. I want you
Speaker 3: to hold America's hand and never let go. It's our
Speaker 3: right to do that, it's our responsibility to do that.
Speaker 1: So think of the people.
Speaker 3: You love, and protect America like the people you love.
Speaker 3: Lesson number two is do not listen to authority. Their
Speaker 3: advice will kill you. Authorities are wrong about everything. Experts
Speaker 3: are frauds, they know nothing.
Speaker 1: They're wrong about everything.
Speaker 3: Their morons, or they're boot licking order takers, or they
Speaker 3: want you they may not want you to die, but
Speaker 3: they want you out of the way.
Speaker 1: Well, they run to the lifeboat. Less Number three is
Speaker 1: the cover up. When they try and tell.
Speaker 3: You everything's fine, It's not fine. That's what's going on
Speaker 3: in America today. Liberals are trying to say everything's fine.
Speaker 3: We're letting in fifty million illegals, No problem. They're all nice.
Speaker 3: They're all here to make a better life. They're not
Speaker 3: here to.
Speaker 1: Murder you, kill you, rape you, to abuse your children.
Speaker 1: They're not here to steal your jobs.
Speaker 3: That not here to make the place filthy and drop
Speaker 3: garbage and litter and poop on the ground.
Speaker 1: No, they're all here to be good to you. Don't
Speaker 1: listen to anything anybody tells you.
Speaker 3: It's all a cover up. That's the third lesson I learned.
Speaker 3: And then I'm trying to find the last lesson here.
Speaker 3: There's two last lessons. First of all, every man frohim
Speaker 3: self right to wait for government or people of authority
Speaker 3: to save you.
Speaker 1: You are the only one who could save you.
Speaker 3: If it's to be, it's up to me, and you
Speaker 3: gotta do what you gotta do. All that matters is
Speaker 3: the survival of you and your family, every man from self,
Speaker 3: and it's getting to be that time in America every
Speaker 3: man and woman for themselves. And you have got to
Speaker 3: do anything to protect America, just like it's your little
Speaker 3: child or your mommy and daddy. You got to protect
Speaker 3: them because you love them. You got to protect America
Speaker 3: because you love it. And these people on the left
Speaker 3: are here to kill, enslave, destroy you, fill this nation
Speaker 3: with Muslim murderers. They're here to inoculate you with vaccines
Speaker 3: that will kill you, and fill the air with chemtrails
Speaker 3: and destroy your life financially with electric bills that are
Speaker 3: gonna be two thousand dollars a month for a small
Speaker 3: apartment because they believe in climate change.
Speaker 1: And this is what you're dealing with, folks.
Speaker 3: So I just thought that movie was an interesting movie
Speaker 3: that was kind of a representation of life and everything
Speaker 3: going on in the country today. And the movie again,
Speaker 3: I'll give you the name in case you want to
Speaker 3: watch it. Shipwrecked, Nightmare at Sea. Shipwrecked Nightmare at Sea.
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Speaker 3: Wayne Barnes. Another Wayne, Welcome to the Other Way and
Speaker 3: Wayne Barnes, twenty nine year FBI counter intelligence agent.
Speaker 1: Let's first say hi to Wayne. Wayne. How are you?
Speaker 1: It's Wayne in list day Very well.
Speaker 4: I'm doing really well, Wayne. My name Wayne is going
Speaker 4: well through life. I really enjoyed having it.
Speaker 1: Two Waynes and the third Wayne is Wayne Newton.
Speaker 3: So now we got three Waynes in Las Vegas. On
Speaker 3: June third, the FBI and I five and three other
Speaker 3: allied services issued a joint warning Chinese military intelligence is
Speaker 3: running active recruitment campaigns through LinkedIn, posing as think tanks
Speaker 3: and consultancies to target clearance holders. So let me tell you,
Speaker 3: as a person who studies politics twenty five hours a
Speaker 3: day and thinks he's a smart guy, Wayne, I have
Speaker 3: no idea what this is. I don't even know what
Speaker 3: that means. What the hell is a clearance holder? I
Speaker 3: don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Tell me in Layman's terms, what the hell's going on when.
Speaker 5: You're in the federal government.
Speaker 4: If you have a clearance, and many, many thousands of
Speaker 4: people do clearances, tens of thousands means.
Speaker 5: You passed the background check.
Speaker 4: They've interviewed to neighbors, your relatives, they've done your background
Speaker 4: they look for your online information, and they determine if
Speaker 4: you infect our security risk so that you can learn
Speaker 4: our nation secrets. And the FBI everyone has a top
Speaker 4: secret security clearance. But also we have individuals who were
Speaker 4: defense contractors. You're a naval architect working in the new
Speaker 4: design for a submarine or the new plane wing for
Speaker 4: the B two bomber. All these people have clearances while
Speaker 4: they're not in the federal government per se. So they're
Speaker 4: really tens of thousands people who have clearances. So what
Speaker 4: this organization was doing, what the Chinese were doing was
Speaker 4: they were using a typical American website LinkedIn or others
Speaker 4: similar to it, and they were posting employment for people
Speaker 4: who had the skill sets to have those jobs, which
Speaker 4: would require government clearances. Of course, in England there's an
Speaker 4: official Secrets Act where you assigned something on the dotted
Speaker 4: line when you leave a government job or when you
Speaker 4: leave the FBI, and if you had a clearance, there's
Speaker 4: also a document. It's not so High and Mighty sort
Speaker 4: of a name, but it's a very specific document which
Speaker 4: indicates the secrets you have, things you know, will remain.
Speaker 5: With you, you won't give them to others.
Speaker 4: So if someone is either fired for a job or
Speaker 4: just decides to leave or moves and hasn't got a position,
Speaker 4: but they used to have a clearance, what it looks
Speaker 4: like the Chinese are aiming at are those kind of
Speaker 4: people involvement involved in the tech world, where they've got
Speaker 4: clearances and technology skill. The difficulty is they're pitching people
Speaker 4: in this effort to get their knowledge or secrets in
Speaker 4: a very cold way. That is to say, at one
Speaker 4: point they have to say, well give it, show us
Speaker 4: the examples of things you've written, thing, what your skill
Speaker 4: set is in your particular field, and at that point
Speaker 4: they should say, well, everything I've written in the past
Speaker 4: five years was classified it for the corow government, but
Speaker 4: some right or secret or top secret or compartment at something.
Speaker 4: So at one point they may say, well, look, I'm
Speaker 4: stuck here in Portland, Oregon. I moved here to be
Speaker 4: with my wife's family. I don't have a job. I
Speaker 4: got to get a job. Maybe I just give them
Speaker 4: one of these papers I had so they see my
Speaker 4: skill in writing, and that's the kind of thing they're
Speaker 4: looking for. But the weakness in that from the other
Speaker 4: side is that if you give someone to your secret
Speaker 4: or if you realize that's what they want, you report
Speaker 4: this to your local FBI office or the security officer
Speaker 4: in the last place where you worked, if you're a
Speaker 4: defense contractor, and that person will put out the alert.
Speaker 4: They'll say, Hey, all your people who are leaving your positions, now,
Speaker 4: whether you're leaving them or looking to leave the position,
Speaker 4: be aware this is out there. So it could only
Speaker 4: work maybe one or two times, unless someone is really
Speaker 4: against the US, and it can be shot down by
Speaker 4: having noticed that just like came out, but enough people
Speaker 4: did it or happened it happened to them where they
Speaker 4: were pitched this way that it became known. So all
Speaker 4: the effort, all the time, and they put into it.
Speaker 4: I don't know how much its succeeded, but.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the problem.
Speaker 5: That was the plan.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem I see as a common sense guy.
Speaker 1: There's several things.
Speaker 3: Number One, most people need money, right and if you
Speaker 3: leave the government, you don't have the job anymore or
Speaker 3: you really need money, so they've become desperate. And number two,
Speaker 3: based on everything I've learned in the last ten years
Speaker 3: with Donald Trump as president, almost the whole government is
Speaker 3: against them.
Speaker 1: They're all communists. I mean, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: I mean I know it's not one hundred percent, but
Speaker 3: it must be like some very high number that are
Speaker 3: communists and traders and willing to sell out the United States,
Speaker 3: and they hate the country, they hate capitalism.
Speaker 1: Nowadays, it seems like they all hate Jews for being Jewish.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy how bad the liberal left is.
Speaker 3: And it seems like everyone in the government is part
Speaker 3: of the liberal left and the deep state and the
Speaker 3: DC swamp.
Speaker 1: So when they put ads like.
Speaker 3: That out, it seems to me there's a high level
Speaker 3: of probability they're going to find people who are willing
Speaker 3: to play ball.
Speaker 5: Well, you know the term fishing expedition. This is from
Speaker 5: their side, really a fishing expedition.
Speaker 4: So I like, you're looking for a search warrant, anything
Speaker 4: in the house so you think might be of interest,
Speaker 4: you have to the nigb it specifically, their fishing expedition
Speaker 4: is going to these people behind you mentioned.
Speaker 5: Some people leave American and go to Ireland.
Speaker 4: Others leave the job because they just don't want to
Speaker 4: work for the government for the president. But most people
Speaker 4: who are loyal Americans who have the clearance and work
Speaker 4: for the federal government hits their job to do their
Speaker 4: job and also to keep the secrets. Once they leave,
Speaker 4: and I know they find out or they realize that
Speaker 4: if they give away secrets, they are convicted of can
Speaker 4: be convicted of espionage providing someone information corporately or overtly
Speaker 4: as much as you can to get whatever money you want.
Speaker 4: But it's the only crime mentioned in the US Constitution
Speaker 4: where it has the death penalty to go along with it.
Speaker 5: That's espionage, and that's what they'd be committing.
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Speaker 3: so we're talking Wayne Barnes, twenty nine year FBI counter
Speaker 3: intelligence agent. Now, Wayne, you use the same playbook to
Speaker 3: turn sources yourself, in other words, to turn foreign sources
Speaker 3: into American spies.
Speaker 1: Who are who are spying on RBF? Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Hopefully?
Speaker 4: I'd like to say my efforts were much more sophisticated
Speaker 4: than a fishing expedition through a LinkedIn.
Speaker 3: So you did turn people, but you did turn people
Speaker 3: for a living, so you understand how it's.
Speaker 5: Done, right. Yes. No, we use the term recruit. You
Speaker 5: recruit an individual.
Speaker 4: And if you have a Soviet or in the Cold War,
Speaker 4: a CAGV officer, he decides to defect to the West,
Speaker 4: and we know that that's the case, maybe he's in
Speaker 4: trouble at home. We like to find him, befriend and
Speaker 4: recruit him and understand what is difficult he is. And
Speaker 4: instead of having him leave the country and come out
Speaker 4: as an open defector, we like to turn him around
Speaker 4: and send him back, or if he's in the Soviet
Speaker 4: embassy in Washington, we'd like to have him just stay
Speaker 4: in place as long as he can, as long as
Speaker 4: it's safe for him. So that's a recruitment in place.
Speaker 4: We'd rather have someone not defect openly if we can
Speaker 4: possibly do that.
Speaker 5: So we have cases where we work on individuals.
Speaker 4: During the Cold War, during the ear of the Warsaw Pact,
Speaker 4: we dealt with embassy officials from Romania, Czechoslovakia, pol In, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria,
Speaker 4: and the effort was to recruit them and you found someone.
Speaker 4: For instance, in the Czech embassy, a man was a
Speaker 4: Czech colonel in charge of their intelligence service in the embassy,
Speaker 4: but he was also a captain in the KGB, had
Speaker 4: that rank, so people in the block embassies would know
Speaker 4: a lot of what the Soviets were doing, besides having
Speaker 4: the Soviets as targets. So the goal is to recruit
Speaker 4: one of them and as much turned them. That's more
Speaker 4: like a criminal term when you were talking about someone
Speaker 4: in a gang. You turn them so they work against
Speaker 4: their fellow men or their fellow gang members. But so
Speaker 4: the terms what years are. It's a recruitment in place,
Speaker 4: and it's the defectors. And when you hear about the
Speaker 4: gymnasts and the rowers, they say, oh, this person defected.
Speaker 5: They are asylum seekers.
Speaker 4: In order to be a defector, you have to have
Speaker 4: intelligence information, whether you had a clearance, we have to
Speaker 4: have intelligence data to either to bring with you or
Speaker 4: that's in your head when you come out.
Speaker 5: So we deal with defectors and intelligence officers.
Speaker 1: All right. So this is a LinkedIn story.
Speaker 3: But in addition to LinkedIn, how else is Chinese intelligence
Speaker 3: trying to recruit Americans?
Speaker 1: What other ways are they doing it?
Speaker 5: Well, their system is completely different than ours.
Speaker 4: A number of years ago, a senior intelligence official in
Speaker 4: China who was making a presentation in some sort of
Speaker 4: a meeting where he was wearing an American style suit,
Speaker 4: and he was asked about how do you get information
Speaker 4: from the West, in the US in particular, and he
Speaker 4: laughed and he said, we have them covered now. If
Speaker 4: we want to try to cover China, they have an
Speaker 4: embassy in Washington, d C. They have consulates at various places,
Speaker 4: and you could try to recruit an intelligence officer who's there,
Speaker 4: or any embassy official, but they have a much more
Speaker 4: advantageous situation to go against the US. So, how many
Speaker 4: American students are exchange students in China working on a PhD?
Speaker 5: Man how many Chinese students are in the US. We're
Speaker 5: in the PhD. I mean, the number of students are extraordinary.
Speaker 4: I had worked some cases involving Saudi not in when
Speaker 4: I in counter intelligence, but I was surprised to learn
Speaker 4: that they're eighteen thousand Saudi students in the US. That's
Speaker 4: an astonishing number. And the Chinese, I'm sure that it's
Speaker 4: more so. We have documents which we would consider not classified,
Speaker 4: something which an individual to PhD thesis on, whether it's
Speaker 4: do with physics or orbitating.
Speaker 5: Our planets to whatever it might be.
Speaker 4: In places like the Soviet Union, places like China, those
Speaker 4: things are classified. So you can get things which in
Speaker 4: their countries will be classified, but not in our country.
Speaker 5: So it's really enormously open.
Speaker 4: But if you have a driver for Nancy Pelosi, if
Speaker 4: you have a girlfriend of Congressman Swallwell and other individuals,
Speaker 4: they're all over. How many Americans are or an official
Speaker 4: in China, so they can pepper the continent with all
Speaker 4: sorts of peple at different levels. So if you remember,
Speaker 4: many people ask about the show The Americans, which was
Speaker 4: too a Soviet couple on a TV and Netflix, or
Speaker 4: one of those shows where they were illegals, that is
Speaker 4: to say, they were undercover pretending to be Americans, just
Speaker 4: with the regular jobs. And the question is, well they
Speaker 4: don't have clearances, Well, you know, what could they do?
Speaker 4: But they meet people with clearances. They go to the
Speaker 4: party of FBI and lives across the street to hear
Speaker 4: what he and his friends having conversation. You can learn things,
Speaker 4: not necessarily with clearances, but about people, about meetings, about concepts.
Speaker 4: But coming to the US, they can have people in positions.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're Nancy Pelosi's chauffeur, what can you learn?
Speaker 5: You would be surprised what you can learn.
Speaker 3: Well, how about Dianne Feinstein's schaeffer, right, wasn't there a
Speaker 3: problem with him as well?
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, chief of staff something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be making a mismatch with it.
Speaker 5: It was a Pelosi versus Feinstein bis.
Speaker 4: I apologize whoever it was, but certainly that's that's the
Speaker 4: same idea, and there's a lot that can be learned.
Speaker 4: Plus if they want, if they have the technology, they
Speaker 4: can put you know, bugs places have the back window
Speaker 4: sealed up so that to take a taxi you can't
Speaker 4: get from front to back. You can put a listening
Speaker 4: device there, so it doesn't matter whether the window is
Speaker 4: sealed you can sell up someone listening. I mean, the
Speaker 4: essiganized back says to enormously opportunistic in the US for these.
Speaker 3: So Wayne, we're talking here. This entire interview has been
Speaker 3: about China, China, China and all their attempts to stick
Speaker 3: spies in the United States. But my director Patar was
Speaker 3: just asking me here off to the side, Patar saying,
Speaker 3: ask Wayne about Iranian intelligence. They must be sticking people
Speaker 3: inside the United States to spy as well, in many,
Speaker 3: many different ways.
Speaker 5: It's not that it's not as sophisticated.
Speaker 4: It's much more technology with NSA and other organizations. What
Speaker 4: the military has with what they know about Iran is
Speaker 4: absolutely extraordinary.
Speaker 5: Plus our allies and the.
Speaker 4: Skills and technology is coming out of Ukraine with her,
Speaker 4: with their various levels of drones, boats that are drones. Now,
Speaker 4: I don't know what the status is of counter terrorism
Speaker 4: and US intelligence against Aaron. If they're functioning in the US,
Speaker 4: like we can't easily go there. You can have people
Speaker 4: covertly as the CIA or other intelligence organ.
Speaker 1: But they can easily come here.
Speaker 4: They can easily come here much more easily than we
Speaker 4: go there. It's not that their standards are higher.
Speaker 5: You just you know, look at me.
Speaker 4: I probably can't go there and start peaking Farsi and
Speaker 4: have them accept the conversation from me. So you have
Speaker 4: someone who's ethnically from that country in this country.
Speaker 5: It hardly makes a difference in many locations.
Speaker 3: So right well, especially like Beverly Hills, it's known as
Speaker 3: Little Iran.
Speaker 1: Now it's just Iranians everywhere.
Speaker 3: I'm sure of ninety nine percent of them are good
Speaker 3: Iranians who are escaped to this country. Of many of
Speaker 3: them are Jewish Iranians who ran away from the Muslim radicalism.
Speaker 3: But there must be a few that slip in who
Speaker 3: are working for the Iranian government and are here as spies.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you recruited the source that took down Robert
Speaker 3: Henson and who was an FBI trader. Your book a
Speaker 3: trader in the FBI. The Hunt for a Russian Mole
Speaker 3: tells that story. Tell us what happened in that story.
Speaker 4: I've been assigned to Washington, the Washington Field Office for
Speaker 4: eighteen years, and I had been the.
Speaker 5: Security officer for the Field Office.
Speaker 4: I had a record number of hours of what we
Speaker 4: called FaceTime, working undercover operations against harder targets the Soviets,
Speaker 4: Romanian Chechs, Polls, Hungarians, all sorts of people who wrote
Speaker 4: a handbook about working undercover count intelligence for the newer
Speaker 4: agents coming in so know how to do it. So
Speaker 4: I had awful lot of that experience and I had
Speaker 4: to brief to record I think twenty four defectors and
Speaker 4: recruitments and plats. My brain was deeply embedded into that area.
Speaker 4: And then I had a daughter who was born with
Speaker 4: a disability, and they said, you need to go to
Speaker 4: San Diego, who with the Children's Hospital have the best
Speaker 4: orthpedic surgeons in the world. So I left all that behind.
Speaker 4: I was happy to do it regarding my daughter. But
Speaker 4: so I moved to San Diego and I was away
Speaker 4: from count intelligence working healthcare fraud and other things. And
Speaker 4: then one day I got a call from an old
Speaker 4: old friend from Washington on a Sunday morning. He said,
Speaker 4: Mike and Dave and I are coming out on Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Don't tell anybody we're coming. And that's a surprise. That's
Speaker 4: called undercover of darkness. And the Bureau doesn't do that.
Speaker 4: But they came out, I didn't, don't tell your wife,
Speaker 4: don't tell the counter intelligence people know one.
Speaker 5: So I met them on a Tuesday.
Speaker 4: And they said, right up front, we have a penetration
Speaker 4: of the FBI.
Speaker 5: We have a mole in the FBI.
Speaker 4: Working for the KGB. And at one point there was
Speaker 4: a question whether it was the FBI or the CIA.
Speaker 4: What turns out obviously it was the FBI. So they said,
Speaker 4: there's a Russian who we knows the face of the
Speaker 4: man you have seen the American who's giving sects of
Speaker 4: the Russians.
Speaker 5: They said, he's.
Speaker 4: Coming to a film festival in Santa Monica in two months.
Speaker 4: They said, we want you to go to this film festival.
Speaker 4: Create some kind of backstopping cover, some legend which would
Speaker 4: enable you to be there, like a financewer.
Speaker 5: Of independent film, something like that.
Speaker 4: But go to the film festival, find this man, meet him,
Speaker 4: befriend him, recruit him, and then show him photos of
Speaker 4: a dozen senior agents who we suspect. One of them
Speaker 4: might be the mole in the FBI. That's really your
Speaker 4: mission impossible. And I when the Soviet was assigned to
Speaker 4: Washington for four years during the Cold War, it was
Speaker 4: almost impossible to recruit them. So I said, well, gee,
Speaker 4: how long do we have to do this? And they said, well,
Speaker 4: the festival last for eight days.
Speaker 1: Used to do this.
Speaker 4: You're laughing with me, right, there's the movie, right, So
Speaker 4: Tom Cruise's movies making that point. His obstacles were physical,
Speaker 4: jumping out of airplanes and motorcycles off of cliffs. Mine
Speaker 4: was psychological. There are two superpowers, and the Russians believed
Speaker 4: they belonged to the best super power. So why would
Speaker 4: the guy want to talk to me? And the answer
Speaker 4: is he probably wouldn't. But that is the whole idea
Speaker 4: of recruiting.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: I have a dear friend in John Douglas, who was
Speaker 4: the original profile. He invented profiling. He is a mind
Speaker 4: hunter and he had a criminal mind show.
Speaker 5: Was based upon him as well.
Speaker 4: He was creating profiles for people like He started with
Speaker 4: zero murderers, went the prisons, interviewed all the zero murderers
Speaker 4: to know what their mindset was. At the same time,
Speaker 4: parallel to that, but not directly connected. We were profiling
Speaker 4: people in the various embassies who we wanted to target,
Speaker 4: and that was that was extremely important.
Speaker 5: You just can't pitch someone in a bathroom.
Speaker 4: You really have to have a lot of knowledge about
Speaker 4: about the individuals, and in this situation, we had.
Speaker 5: Some information about the man.
Speaker 4: But the idea is I had to go to the
Speaker 4: film festal and find him and then meet him in
Speaker 4: a way that he wouldn't think was suspicious.
Speaker 5: I meaning the CIA that what they called a cold bump.
Speaker 4: You have an empy reception and invite everybody in who
Speaker 4: wants to come, and someone who came, who's the target
Speaker 4: of viewers, you just back around and hit them on
Speaker 4: the side, oh excuse me, and then start a conversation.
Speaker 4: They couldn't be anything more obvious of someone who's trying
Speaker 4: to get closer to it and everybody having the cold bump.
Speaker 5: We had to do that completely the other way around.
Speaker 4: We had to find him and in a way that
Speaker 4: would be unsuspicious to meet him and have.
Speaker 5: Him become a friend and then try to deal with
Speaker 5: it from there.
Speaker 4: But it didn't work in that eight days, but it
Speaker 4: did eventually work he did point out a photo and
Speaker 4: a couple of years later Robert Hanson was arrested.
Speaker 5: So it worked well. But I was retired by then,
Speaker 5: so I was.
Speaker 4: Out of the intelligence classification loop when it happened.
Speaker 3: Talking to Wayne Barnes, twenty nine year FBI counter intelligence
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Speaker 3: We're talking Wayne Barnes, twenty nine year FBI counter intelligence agent.
Speaker 3: All right, last thing, and then we'll have to say
Speaker 3: goodbye because we're running at a time. But you mentioned
Speaker 3: a little earlier.
Speaker 1: This struck me.
Speaker 3: You mentioned all the you know, how easy it is
Speaker 3: for China to spy because there's very few American students
Speaker 3: in China, but there's thousands and thousands, tens of thousands
Speaker 3: of Chinese students in America, and actually it's more tens
Speaker 3: of thousand. Last I heard, I believe President Trump talked
Speaker 3: about six hundred thousand Chinese students in America and he
Speaker 3: said he was gonna let them keep going because the
Speaker 3: university would go broke without them. And I'm very you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a very big pro Trump guy. I'm a friend
Speaker 3: to President Trump. He made a point of saying at
Speaker 3: the White House, Wayne Root never waits a minute.
Speaker 1: He introduced me the crowd.
Speaker 3: He said, Wayne Root never waits a minute saying negative
Speaker 3: things about me. And that's what I appreciate about him.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that about you. But I'm about to
Speaker 3: say something negative about him. I'm allowed to disagree with
Speaker 3: him once in a while. Why would we let in
Speaker 3: six hundred thousand foreign students from China? They're almost likely
Speaker 3: to be almost all of them, if not most of them,
Speaker 3: are likely to be enemies, spies working for China bringing
Speaker 3: back information.
Speaker 1: I don't want to let them in our country.
Speaker 3: Don't you think that's a national security risk to let
Speaker 3: six hundred thousand Chinese students into America. I can't imagine
Speaker 3: that they let them come here without them being recruited
Speaker 3: to be spies, every one of them.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, I don't make the rules. It would be
Speaker 5: different if I did. But here's the deal.
Speaker 4: When they talk about how Islam is a peaceful language,
Speaker 4: and how many bad Muslims are, what's a percentage?
Speaker 5: And if there's a.
Speaker 4: Billion Muslims in the world, how many of those would
Speaker 4: be in the US would not be peaceful Muslims? How
Speaker 4: many students could come over here and not be connected
Speaker 4: with their services when we work Eastern Bloc countries, not
Speaker 4: just Russia, but all the other Warsaw Pact anytime a
Speaker 4: student came out, even priests, if you were a remaining
Speaker 4: Orthodox priest and you came to be a priest and
Speaker 4: a new church in Washington, for instance, you had to be,
Speaker 4: if not recruited, you had to be at least a
Speaker 4: person who would do their bidding. And if you came
Speaker 4: out and you didn't do the bidding, you got sent
Speaker 4: back or they punish your family.
Speaker 5: Your wife lost her job back there. So it's the
Speaker 5: same deal here.
Speaker 4: The number of Chinese students, they're not all quote officers,
Speaker 4: not all working for them.
Speaker 5: But it doesn't matter what the percentage is.
Speaker 4: Whatever percentage is, the whole number is simply enormous, right,
Speaker 4: And that's really a problem. You can knock get back
Speaker 4: to half as many and they would still have that many.
Speaker 5: But they do commit espionage.
Speaker 4: They get secrets that don't seem to be significant secrets
Speaker 4: many times. But someone back there in Beijing is putting
Speaker 4: all the pieces of the puzzle together, which was greatly
Speaker 4: concerned me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And by the way, you said about numbers like that,
Speaker 3: the number I've heard for years now is when it
Speaker 3: comes to Muslims, about twenty percent of all the Muslims
Speaker 3: in the world are radicalized and want to kill us
Speaker 3: and want to be terrorists, and like it when Americans die,
Speaker 3: whether it's twenty percent or not, I.
Speaker 1: Hear that's the number.
Speaker 3: Well, there's two billion Muslims in the world, so that
Speaker 3: means there's four one hundred million Muslims.
Speaker 1: That want to kill us.
Speaker 3: That's a really big number. Even if eighty percent are
Speaker 3: not bad people. That's a huge number, a scary number.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: That's the problem with it open society. We want to
Speaker 4: have the open society, and you have to figure out
Speaker 4: how to filter out, how to keep many out. I
Speaker 4: just think as a whole number, there's far too many.
Speaker 4: But those who come out who they want to live
Speaker 4: in the West, they want to be honest, decent Americans,
Speaker 4: like these the World Cup fans that came from Scotland, Australia,
Speaker 4: the Brits and anyplace else.
Speaker 5: They want to be here.
Speaker 4: They want to love it here, and that's a big deal.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to show you this.
Speaker 5: This is the.
Speaker 4: Book A trader in the FBI, The Hunt for a
Speaker 4: Russian Mole. It came out April seventh on Amazon. It
Speaker 4: sold out the first day and it was the number
Speaker 4: one for new release for the rest of the month
Speaker 4: and it's doing pretty well. But it is that story,
Speaker 4: how that story ended resulting in recruiting at intelligence person
Speaker 4: from the Soviet Union, the former Soviet Union. And it
Speaker 4: turned out to be a dynamic story. You can write fiction,
Speaker 4: but this one was all true, and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 3: He's got great stories, a great patriot. He has really
Speaker 3: bled for his country. Wayne Barnes, twenty nine year FBI
Speaker 3: counter intelligence agent. His book A Trader in the FBI,
Speaker 3: The Hunt for a Russian Mole a fascinating story. It's
Speaker 3: more fascinating than even fiction. Real life very often more
Speaker 3: fascinating the fiction. And Wayne's got the proof. Wayne Barnes,
Speaker 3: thank you for hanging with us.
Speaker 5: My pleasure. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 3: You know, one of my big arguments against illegal immigration
Speaker 3: is that if they're allowed to break the law, then
Speaker 3: you and I are allowed to break the law. You
Speaker 3: and I should be able to pick any law that
Speaker 3: we want, and why limit it to one?
Speaker 1: But you know, let's make it reasonable.
Speaker 3: We should all pick one law, every one of us,
Speaker 3: and we're allowed to break it whenever we want. If
Speaker 3: we don't believe in the law, we could break it.
Speaker 3: And I personally don't believe in income taxes. You know,
Speaker 3: over the years, I've paid the IRS millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: Last year I paid them well over one hundred thousand,
Speaker 3: probably closer to two hundred thousand dollars, and over the
Speaker 3: years I've paid them millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't I just be able to say, ef it, I
Speaker 1: don't know the irs anything.
Speaker 3: Why should I follow the law? Illegal aliens don't follow
Speaker 3: the law. Why should I follow in the law? Why
Speaker 3: should any of us?
Speaker 1: Why can't I drive one hundred miles an hour because
Speaker 1: I don't have to follow law?
Speaker 3: Screw the police, screw the highway patrol. Isn't that what
Speaker 3: we should say. If you don't think we should say it.
Speaker 1: Then you can't argue logically.
Speaker 3: That you know, most illegal aliens are not criminals, you know,
Speaker 3: because some of them commit crimes.
Speaker 1: Those are criminals.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll let you deport them, but the rest of
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Speaker 3: to better their lives.
Speaker 1: No, they're not.
Speaker 3: You can't just let someone decide to follow any law
Speaker 3: they want to and to not follow whichever ones they
Speaker 3: don't want.
Speaker 1: If they can do it, then I could do it,
Speaker 1: and pretty soon the.
Speaker 3: Whole country will stop paying taxes, and the whole country
Speaker 3: will stop driving at sixty miles an hour.
Speaker 1: They'll drive it one.
Speaker 3: Hundred miles an hour and everyone will do whatever they
Speaker 3: want to do. And I guess that is what democrats want,
Speaker 3: because here's a good example.
Speaker 1: Here's an elected lawmaker.
Speaker 3: Where is this? This is in Massachusetts. I guess right, Oh,
Speaker 3: New Hampshire. A Democrat New Hampshire lawmaker. She's a leadfoot driver.
Speaker 3: She's making the outrageous claim she was clocked in one
Speaker 3: hundred and seven miles an hour. And by the way,
Speaker 3: I'm a speeder, right, I've been a speeder in my
Speaker 3: whole life. I always go above the speed limit. So
Speaker 3: I'm going with the traffic. I'm not going one hundred
Speaker 3: and seven. Everyone in the road in Vegas goes eighty five,
Speaker 3: eighty in the slow lane, in eighty five in the
Speaker 3: fast lane. And I'm always in the fast lane going
Speaker 3: eighty five with everybody else.
Speaker 1: But she's going one hundred and seven. And even though.
Speaker 3: I'm rationalizing my driving eighty five. And I always drive
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Speaker 1: All and I drive fast. They're meant to drive fast, right, But.
Speaker 3: If you get caught you do, you did commit a crime,
Speaker 3: and you have to pay the fine, and the policeman
Speaker 3: has every right to pull you over. And I never
Speaker 3: try and make excuses. I'm like, yeah, I was speeding, Okay,
Speaker 3: give me the ticket. I don't try and make an
Speaker 3: excuse that I'm different than everybody else. You've got toby
Speaker 3: the law, and if you dontbate the law, you got
Speaker 3: to pay the price. And if you're a foreigner and
Speaker 3: you broke into the United States, you got to get
Speaker 3: kicked out. But here's a Democrat lawmaker clocked at one
Speaker 3: hundred and seven miles an hour and she claims she's
Speaker 3: immune from speeding laws. I never heard that one before.
Speaker 3: I never tried to make that case ever in my
Speaker 3: whole life. A New Hampshire state lawmaker clocked at driving
Speaker 3: one hundred and seven miles per hour, accused of driving
Speaker 3: ninety two miles per hour on the same highway a
Speaker 3: year later, has been making an audacious argument to avoid
Speaker 3: legal consequences for her speeding. She's arguing that the state
Speaker 3: constitution shields her from being stopped by police while traveling
Speaker 3: to or from a legislative session.
Speaker 1: She's a legislative legislature.
Speaker 3: She's a legislator in the state legislature, and she's arguing
Speaker 3: that when you're driving to or from a legislative session
Speaker 3: in the legislature, that you're not you can't be.
Speaker 1: Stopped by the police.
Speaker 3: State Representative Ellen Reid two separate speeding cases ninety miles
Speaker 3: an hour and one hundred and seven miles per hour,
Speaker 3: claims the sheriff deputies who stopped her on Interstate ninety
Speaker 3: three had no authority to detain her charger since the
Speaker 3: state's constitution, she says, lawmakers cannot be arrested while traveling
Speaker 3: to or from the legislature. She has repeatedly asserted legislative privilege,
Speaker 3: speaking of Democrats, talking about white privilege, legislative privilege to
Speaker 3: ask the charge of stemming from two traffic stoff.
Speaker 1: To be dismissed on account of the office she holds.
Speaker 3: She pressed her case all the way to New Hampshire
Speaker 3: Supreme Court, which declined in June to hear her appeal
Speaker 3: at this stage.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't an emergency, it wasn't life or death.
Speaker 3: She was just driving to the legislature. Maybe I would
Speaker 3: guess she wasn't even doing that. You know, sometimes policemen
Speaker 3: drive to just get groceries to their family, or they drive.
Speaker 1: Home and they put the siren on, the lights on.
Speaker 1: She may not have even been driving the legislature.
Speaker 3: Who knows, But in either case, I must say that
Speaker 3: it makes a great argument in the legal alien world.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I just keep saying, if they could avoid the law,
Speaker 3: if they don't like the law, they could break it.
Speaker 1: And you think it's okay.
Speaker 3: In the ACL you think it's okay, and the Democrat
Speaker 3: Party thinks okay, And I'm right, I need not call them.
Speaker 3: I'll have that out in the next week. Then all
Speaker 3: of us can choose whatever law we don't like and
Speaker 3: break it. I give everyone one law. Break whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's murder, maybe it's rape.
Speaker 3: Whatever you want, you don't believe in it, you're allowed
Speaker 3: to break it.
Speaker 1: If the illegals can do it, we could do it.
Speaker 3: And probably the most important one is the irs. We
Speaker 3: should all just stop paying taxes. Screw the government. You
Speaker 3: want to see how far that goes.
Speaker 1: You see if that works or not.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back oh wait now, Ruth, this is
Speaker 3: Warzone Live. Rootfamerica dot com is my website.
Speaker 1: You can email me anytime.
Speaker 3: Weaightrooth at gmail dot com. Alright, waitel Ruth, the Root,
Speaker 3: The Root, The Root's on fire. Welcome back. This is
Speaker 3: Warzone Live. We're the official podcast to the Gateway Pundit.
Speaker 3: And oh do we have a great guest for you today,
Speaker 3: because still in the end, illegal immigration and boys and
Speaker 3: girls' schools, and transgender this and transgender that.
Speaker 1: The open border.
Speaker 3: There's a million issues in the world, but to me,
Speaker 3: the number one issue is making money. I'm like trump Man,
Speaker 3: making moneys in my DNA. Making money's in my blood.
Speaker 3: I'm always looking for ways to make more money. In
Speaker 3: the end, that makes an awful lot of problems go
Speaker 3: away for the nation and for the middle class and
Speaker 3: for the people of this country. Making money is our
Speaker 3: gotta be our number one goal. Economy jobs, GDP, That's
Speaker 3: what really matters. So I got a great guest for
Speaker 3: you to talk about it, Lost Soldier. Oil and Gas
Speaker 3: has been the sponsor of this show for almost a year.
Speaker 3: Now do you realize it's been about a year that
Speaker 3: they've been the sponsor of my podcast, my national radio show,
Speaker 3: my national TV show on Real America's Voice TV network.
Speaker 3: And it's really an amazing property. It took forty years
Speaker 3: to piece together. It is forty thousand acre giant gas discovery,
Speaker 3: estimated to contain up to six trillion cubic feet of gas,
Speaker 3: making one of the largest natural gas discoveries in the
Speaker 3: Rocky Mounty region Rocky Mountain region, excuse me, in the
Speaker 3: last thirty year years. And they have a management forecast
Speaker 3: projecting just the first twenty five wells to produce four
Speaker 3: hundred million cubic feet per day of natural gas and
Speaker 3: by twenty thirty five targeted production of over a billion
Speaker 3: cubic feet a day.
Speaker 1: An amazing project.
Speaker 3: And I invested in this project not once, but twice
Speaker 3: last year. I intend to invest a third time this year.
Speaker 3: And I want to introduce you to the project.
Speaker 1: And I want to.
Speaker 3: Introduce you to the guy who is the CEO and
Speaker 3: the chairman of the board who invented this project, Mark Bruner,
Speaker 3: CEO of Lost Soldier.
Speaker 1: Oil and Gas. The website, by the way.
Speaker 3: Lost Soldier dot com, Lost Soldier dot com. Mark, Welcome
Speaker 3: to the show. I haven't had John in quite a while.
Speaker 3: You've been running around the world raising money. You've been
Speaker 3: in Europe, You've been in Switzerland, you've been in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 1: You're all over the world. You're an amazing guy.
Speaker 3: You're always traveling, You're always raising money, you're always running
Speaker 3: your company.
Speaker 1: You are a busy man like me.
Speaker 3: That's hard to nail you down. So it's great to
Speaker 3: have you back on the show.
Speaker 1: So wonderful to be with you again.
Speaker 5: Away and good to see.
Speaker 1: You all right.
Speaker 3: So you're a second generation oil and gas man. You're
Speaker 3: actually a second generation oil and gas legend. Your previous
Speaker 3: public companies, Pennaco Energy produced about one hundred to one
Speaker 3: for every dollar invested investors and stockholders made one hundred
Speaker 3: dollars and Ultra Petroleum spectacular return for investors. That one
Speaker 3: was a thousand to one for every dollar invested. People
Speaker 3: got back a thousand. It was one of the biggest
Speaker 3: stocks of the entire decade of I think it was
Speaker 3: the nineties, right, it was the go go nineties.
Speaker 1: That stock was one of the highest flyers on Wall Street.
Speaker 3: So Lost Soldier is an amazing, amazing project.
Speaker 1: But tell people why it's so amazing.
Speaker 3: Why I guess you think it's even bigger, biggest to
Speaker 3: your career, that would make it bigger than Pennico or
Speaker 3: Ultra Petroleum. Ultra Petroleum a thousand to one return on investment,
Speaker 3: and you say this is the biggest of your career,
Speaker 3: what do you.
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 8: And when I compare it with Ultra petroleum, it has
Speaker 8: a sequence of regionally pervasive sands where we can see
Speaker 8: based on the seismic interpretation, we can drill up to
Speaker 8: five hundred horizontal wells so far that we could see.
Speaker 8: And the other wonderful thing is is that no one
Speaker 8: can drill this for fifty years. We know of where
Speaker 8: all the basins are for fifty years. All of them
Speaker 8: have been drilled as far as I know, except this one.
Speaker 8: Because there's a uranium mine out here that was whenever
Speaker 8: Three Mile Island melted down in the early eighties, they
Speaker 8: started reclamating this mine. Kennicott did three years ago. They
Speaker 8: finished the reclamation. I got a call, I drilled it,
Speaker 8: and as they say, the rest is history. Certainly the
Speaker 8: largest gas field I've ever found right now, if you
Speaker 8: compare it with some of the other basins, there's thousands
Speaker 8: of feet of layer cake type regionally pervasive overpressure sands.
Speaker 8: It's very much like the Hainesville and the Utica. If
Speaker 8: any of you've heard of those plays, you've probably heard
Speaker 8: of a guy named Jerry Jones and on the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That's like number one play.
Speaker 8: Now, okay, the Western Haysville and I would encourage everyone
Speaker 8: to compare what we have with the Western Hayesville because
Speaker 8: I think it certainly, you know, is comparable. The difference
Speaker 8: here is we're the only operator. No one else is
Speaker 8: in here is just us. We made the discovery. We
Speaker 8: have legacy infrastructure that is on the slash rows. We
Speaker 8: can tie into all that legacy infrastructure. We're laying a
Speaker 8: five mile line to start producing gas this year. And
Speaker 8: you know, the plan is when we finished this private
Speaker 8: placement to be producing about four hundred and five hundred
Speaker 8: million qv feet today three hundred million a year in
Speaker 8: cash flow within thirty six months, and then we plan
Speaker 8: to build a forty two to forty six line fifty
Speaker 8: miles away to the Trading Club one center about ten
Speaker 8: times that. There's another guy named Warren Buffett that's looping
Speaker 8: on that line that going out to California.
Speaker 1: So you know, as you all know, he's no fool.
Speaker 8: So he's going to send all his gas out to
Speaker 8: a Pacific corp in the West Coast.
Speaker 1: So we hope to be able to do that too.
Speaker 5: Anyway, that's pretty much a.
Speaker 3: Summary, Wayne, So give me some new updates, because remember
Speaker 3: I'm one of your investors.
Speaker 1: I invested not once but twice last year, very.
Speaker 3: Big healthy investments by the way, from Wayne Root, and
Speaker 3: I planned to investing in this year.
Speaker 1: What's happened between.
Speaker 3: The last time we spoke on TV, which was probably
Speaker 3: six months ago. Though you've had your president of your
Speaker 3: company and your COO talking to me on TV as well,
Speaker 3: but you were busy traveling.
Speaker 1: Give us some updates from last year.
Speaker 3: What exciting things have happened, and tell me what will
Speaker 3: happen this year, in the year twenty twenty six.
Speaker 8: Well, I think you know. One of the things that
Speaker 8: we've done is that you're always looking for permits to drill.
Speaker 8: You're always looking for right of ways and other things
Speaker 8: in order to be able to lay the pipelines. All
Speaker 8: this is completed, okay, it's finished, okay, and so we're
Speaker 8: going to start building this pipeline sometime in July when
Speaker 8: what we call the winter STIPs are off and we
Speaker 8: can get in here and lay that pipeline. We think
Speaker 8: it'll take you know, forty five to sixty days to
Speaker 8: finish the pipeline. Then we'll be producing gas. Okay, So
Speaker 8: that's going to happen this year. We're very excited about that.
Speaker 8: The other thing that I think is important is that
Speaker 8: we have a deal with the Fed federal government. All
Speaker 8: the leases that we have, they're federal and state leases.
Speaker 8: They've been put into what we call a federal unit,
Speaker 8: which means that it's all those different leases we had
Speaker 8: like fifty six of them, they're they're one lease.
Speaker 1: Now it means that we can.
Speaker 8: Orderly develop this gas field with the cooperation of the
Speaker 8: federal government. They've stamped a deposit commercial. So all those
Speaker 8: things have happened, and yeah, we think we're going to
Speaker 8: be able to do that. We're hoping to be able
Speaker 8: to drill some of the deep over pressure of horizontals
Speaker 8: this year, at least one, maybe two of those. We
Speaker 8: were anticipating fifty million a day plus. Wells, they're going
Speaker 8: to be expensive, you know, they're twenty to thirty million
Speaker 8: dollars apiece. But when you're producing those kind of rates,
Speaker 8: they pay out very quickly and so you know, possibly
Speaker 8: within a year, so something. You know, the field next
Speaker 8: to us, Lost Soldier Field, which I named my company
Speaker 8: after that field has been producing for over one hundred years,
Speaker 8: produced four hundred and fifty million barrels still in US
Speaker 8: three thousand, five hundred barrels a day. And so some
Speaker 8: of the deeper stuff that we're looking for and we
Speaker 8: think we'll find, we'll find some of those this year
Speaker 8: as well. So very exciting times for us. And by
Speaker 8: the way, we also drill. We're not drilling for our
Speaker 8: sales in Bridge, which transports about thirty percent of the
Speaker 8: natural gas in the United States. We're entering into a
Speaker 8: twenty three year old contract with them.
Speaker 5: I think that would speak.
Speaker 8: Very highly of our drilling people and their abilities, and
Speaker 8: you know, we're very excited about that relationship with them
Speaker 8: as well. So we're going to be having revenue out
Speaker 8: of our drilling company, out of our pipeline company, out
Speaker 8: of our working interests, and those people don't invest that
Speaker 8: will also enjoy a package of overrunning role as well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was and don't forget the thing that
Speaker 3: got me was you know, I have seen a lot
Speaker 3: of potential in my life. I think this is the
Speaker 3: most potential I've ever seen. But potential is one thing
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean you ever deliver. You have a track record,
Speaker 3: that's amazing. That's great.
Speaker 1: Pennaco Ultra Petroleum, very impressive. That was a.
Speaker 3: Decision pusher for me. And then of course what else
Speaker 3: can you invest in? Like if I put one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars into stocks and those stocks happen to go down,
Speaker 3: I would get no tax break.
Speaker 1: It would do nothing for me until the day they
Speaker 1: went back up.
Speaker 3: You get a three thousand dollars deduction on stock losses
Speaker 3: in a given year. But with oil and gas, it's
Speaker 3: the most generous tax deduction you can ever get. It's
Speaker 3: seventy percent right off the first year you invest. So
Speaker 3: if I put one hundred thousand in, I get a
Speaker 3: seventy thousand dollars tax deduction on my tax return in
Speaker 3: the first year and the other thirty over the next
Speaker 3: I think three years.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, so that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 5: There's been a change.
Speaker 8: It's one hundred percent now not seventy percent really under
Speaker 8: the tax under the Trump tax bills.
Speaker 1: But that's for this year coming up twenty ten. Yes,
Speaker 1: I said it's twenty twenty five. I have to go
Speaker 1: by the old rum, but I assume yeah.
Speaker 8: I think the other thing too, is that the viewers
Speaker 8: need to realize that we don't have to process any
Speaker 8: of this. This is ninety three percent methane H four,
Speaker 8: so no processing.
Speaker 1: We don't have to be on any plants.
Speaker 8: When we put into the pipeline, it can go directly
Speaker 8: into homes. We have people contaking us about putting in
Speaker 8: data centers. There's a lot of options here that we're
Speaker 8: going to be looking at, Wayne, So we'll give you
Speaker 8: updated as things happen this year.
Speaker 1: All right, data centers would seem to be the way
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 3: That's all anyone talks about now is data centers and
Speaker 3: how much they use so much you know energy, Well,
Speaker 3: you've got the energy for them, so it would seem
Speaker 3: like would be a profit center. Last thing for accredited
Speaker 3: investors who want to learn more and get involved, they
Speaker 3: go to loss Soldier dot com and then what happens.
Speaker 1: Someone gets back to them. Yeah, we'll get back to them.
Speaker 8: We give them the information so they can access they
Speaker 8: get access all the information.
Speaker 5: We'll answer their questions.
Speaker 8: And you know, we look at all our investors as
Speaker 8: a family, if they ever been the Lost Soldier families,
Speaker 8: like what we just need to.
Speaker 3: Say, right well, with my big investment, I'd better be
Speaker 3: a good family member.
Speaker 1: I better be loved. Better be loved, Mark, We'll let
Speaker 1: you move in.
Speaker 8: We'll let you move in second.
Speaker 3: Home and Wyoming Lost Soldier dot com, Lost Soldier dot Com.
Speaker 3: Go there, give them your contact information. They'll get right
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Speaker 3: It's the right project, right time, the right president, the
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Speaker 1: even as Graham Plattner had to step down in Maine,
Speaker 1: you know, with the with the Nazi tattoo on his
Speaker 1: chest and spent most of his life as a blackout
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Speaker 3: See Islam and the men who beat the crap out
Speaker 3: of him and rape them every single day.
Speaker 1: You know, just when there's no goats around, they rape
Speaker 1: the women. There's no goats, there's no cows, there's nothing
Speaker 1: else to rapes. Then they rape the women or they
Speaker 1: stone them.
Speaker 3: They bury him to their neck and they stone them,
Speaker 3: or they pour acid in their face.
Speaker 1: If a little girl wants to go to school.
Speaker 3: And they see and then there's white American women who go, oh,
Speaker 3: I want to be married, I want to change the
Speaker 3: Muslim and go marry a Muslim. Anybody who sees what
Speaker 3: the Democrats socialists are like and wants to be a Democrat.
Speaker 1: Socialist is sick in the head. Sick in the head.
Speaker 3: But there was a story about Governor Tim Walls of
Speaker 3: Minnesota making a case for why he wanted to defend
Speaker 3: and did not want to deport an a legal alien
Speaker 3: who raped little children.
Speaker 1: Raped.
Speaker 3: I believe he repeatedly raped a little girl under the
Speaker 3: age of ten, and he did not want him deported.
Speaker 3: Marco Rubio said, screw that, We're getting this guy out
Speaker 3: of the country and deported him. Can you imagine that
Speaker 3: there are people this bad in America? And I'm not
Speaker 3: talking about the guy who raped a little girl. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about Governor Tim Walls. Can you even imagine there's
Speaker 3: people that bad in the United States of America who
Speaker 3: don't care that someone has raped a little girl. They
Speaker 3: want to protect them and keep them from being deported
Speaker 3: out of the United States. That's what you're dealing with, folks.
Speaker 3: All right, here's a good example of the problems we face.
Speaker 3: And I think the biggest problem is the insurrectionist communist judges,
Speaker 3: or maybe I say communists. First, communist insurrectionist judges. And
Speaker 3: here's a judge in Nevada, a judge in Nevada. I'll
Speaker 3: see if I can find his name. US District Judge
Speaker 3: Richard Bulware. The second, a Nevada judge accused. He's black,
Speaker 3: he's a Democrat, and I'm guessing he's a communist who
Speaker 3: hates this country.
Speaker 1: And his wife is a city council woman.
Speaker 3: Very few people know that he's married to a city
Speaker 3: council woman. Another great lesson to be learned. All the
Speaker 3: scumbags are married.
Speaker 1: To each other.
Speaker 3: You find me a scumbag in government working for Obama,
Speaker 3: Biden a Kamala, I'll find you their husband is working
Speaker 3: for the media, or their husband works for another communist,
Speaker 3: evil scumbag Marxist politician. Or they're trying to destroy you
Speaker 3: with some climate change organization, or they're fighting for illegal
Speaker 3: alien it's incestuous. They're all together. These people are disgusting
Speaker 3: and they're together. And yes, because they're Democrats, they're mostly ugly.
Speaker 3: They're ugly on the outside and they're ugly on the inside.
Speaker 1: Terrible people.
Speaker 3: But this justice, his name is used to the US
Speaker 3: District Judge Richard f Bulwear the second. Can you imagine
Speaker 3: there was one before him too, disgusting evil monster one,
Speaker 3: Richard F.
Speaker 1: Bulwear the first. Obviously.
Speaker 3: He accused ICE of lawless conduct for holding immigrants with
Speaker 3: no legal status and arbitrary detention for months without providing
Speaker 3: bond hearings, and ordered the release of seventeen detainees earlier
Speaker 3: this month, and said he would consider sanctions against ICE
Speaker 3: officials who defied his orders. These judges, you're just a
Speaker 3: fat guy with a black robe, and you think that
Speaker 3: like you could put people in jail because they disagree
Speaker 3: with you, And the disagreement is because you protect illegals.
Speaker 1: And we want to get him out of the country.
Speaker 1: It's so ridiculous. And all but two of the tainees
Speaker 1: have been released as of Monday.
Speaker 3: According to the ACLU, which represents them.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: His orders relate to his late March ruling in which
Speaker 3: he determined that a Department of Homeland Security policy that
Speaker 3: called for mandatory detention of immigrants and deportation proceedings who
Speaker 3: otherwise would have been eligible for bail was unconstitutional.
Speaker 1: Oh sh these people are all the same.
Speaker 3: I think this is the guy that in my mock
Speaker 3: trial on Friday where I kicked his ass and ACLU
Speaker 3: lawyer was one of the witnesses for the defense attorney.
Speaker 3: I believe this is the guy Athar Haselbulah.
Speaker 1: I love these names. You're not American eight. What's your name?
Speaker 1: Athar Hasibullah? Wow? These people are from another world.
Speaker 3: As some of his practice law at a high level
Speaker 3: for quite some time, he said, I've never seen anything
Speaker 3: quite like this. Literally, do we see a gouvit ages
Speaker 3: see openly and brazenly ignoring federal court orders. This is
Speaker 3: what we have to do from that one, ignore all
Speaker 3: of their orders. These judges are communists. The ACLU is communist.
Speaker 3: Communist is a domestic terrorist organization. We need to ban
Speaker 3: communists in the United States and ban communist groups in
Speaker 3: the United States of America, as well as banned Sharia
Speaker 3: law and radical Islam.
Speaker 1: And these judges need to.
Speaker 3: Be stripped of their power, impeached, kicked out of office
Speaker 3: and said to get mo. They're all on the side
Speaker 3: of foreign invaders. They want open borders, they want to
Speaker 3: destroy our country. They are the most disgusting, despicable people
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Speaker 3: Wardzone Live. See tomorrow, Bye, bye, God bless