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<v Speaker 1>This is a clip from Aliens and Angels.

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<v Speaker 2>You can access the entire episode now on our website

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<v Speaker 2>and all podcast platforms. I've never seen physical proof of this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do believe it's true that there are nefarious

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<v Speaker 2>human agencies who have captured trans dimensionals or extraterrestrials and

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<v Speaker 2>they are prisoners.

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<v Speaker 3>And one thing I do know about.

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<v Speaker 2>These beings is they run very deep on an emotional level,

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of captivity that ain't good for anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but that sure wouldn't be good for ET.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your thoughts, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Yeah, I've heard, I've heard a lot about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ets who are held hostage in military installations. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might be happening at the San die

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<v Speaker 1>Military base in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I've heard about.

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<v Speaker 1>These things, and they put them into spaces that they're

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<v Speaker 1>unable to you know, walk through the walls or get

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<v Speaker 1>out they put them into. Yeah, the military has technologies

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<v Speaker 1>that go far beyond your imagination in regards to consciousness technologies.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the things that they've been able to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of it it's pretty terrifying, it is, which I

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<v Speaker 1>personally have experienced because I've been I've been astray attacked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>happened after a show I did on my radio show.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like sharing a little bit about that

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<v Speaker 2>experience with the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, Yeah. Hopefully people won't have nightmares tonight because

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff I'm going to share with you is not

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<v Speaker 1>science fiction.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's kind of disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did an interview about four months ago with

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<v Speaker 1>his name is Stuart Saua and quite quite an incredible experiencer.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what was that. Whatever was shared

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<v Speaker 1>on our interview, either by myself or something that he

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<v Speaker 1>had said, somebody obviously did not like that information going public.

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<v Speaker 1>And so after the show, when I went to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>I was attacked astually three times. So the first time

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<v Speaker 1>was I was just in the process of falling asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had dropped into the alpha theta state,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, my body felt like

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<v Speaker 1>if I was an insect and somebody had a magnifying

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<v Speaker 1>glass with the sun and tried to set my body

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<v Speaker 1>on fire, and all of a sudden, my body just

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<v Speaker 1>almost imploded, like this went like the temperature of my

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<v Speaker 1>body just went up really incredibly fast, very quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up yelling, yelling and waking up.

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<v Speaker 3>It hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I tried to do it again, trying falling

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<v Speaker 1>asleep again, and once again, whatever it was, my whole

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<v Speaker 1>body was like almost I felt like I was being

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<v Speaker 1>incinerated m H. But the third time I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the process of falling asleep when I dropped into that

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<v Speaker 1>alpha theta state. And because I've asked, we traveled. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to leave my body, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>state that you're in, the alpha theta state when you're able.

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<v Speaker 3>To leave your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, once I dropped into the alpha theta state, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, something or somebody tried sucking my soul

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<v Speaker 1>out of my body, and I felt my face phase

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<v Speaker 1>shifting and being pulled down like this, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that if I had let myself fallen a deeper

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<v Speaker 1>into an alpha theta state, that they may have sucked

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<v Speaker 1>my soul out of my body. And who knows where

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<v Speaker 1>I could have ended up, and who knows if I

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<v Speaker 1>ever was able to return to my body again m H.

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<v Speaker 2>And who do you think perpetrated that? Was that humans

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<v Speaker 2>or was that other ets? Or do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>idea what the source or origin of that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have absolutely no idea. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>who it could be. Could be some et race, or

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<v Speaker 1>it could be could be military. Yeah, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea who did it.

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<v Speaker 2>M Now, I don't know about what your opinion is.

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<v Speaker 2>But my opinion is that humans, not all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but a small percentage of humans have technologies

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<v Speaker 2>that are beyond our imagination and have had for quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time, you know, to do with possibly time travel.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I think they've had the best of the

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<v Speaker 2>best scientists from all over the world working for about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred years, maybe even longer on understanding this technology

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<v Speaker 2>that we're all born with.

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<v Speaker 3>It allows us.

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<v Speaker 2>To have, you know, trans dimensional experiences, to lepathy, things

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and of course I think it's been weaponized

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<v Speaker 2>and it's being used against us. I think that all

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<v Speaker 2>people on Earth right now are feeling stresses we were

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<v Speaker 2>never naturally you know, meant to have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know those of us who are telepathic, you me,

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<v Speaker 2>we have these states of consciousness where we get into

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<v Speaker 2>a nice sleep state or you know, brain weight state

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<v Speaker 2>that we can make contact and then something technological. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels technological interferes and causes us a lot of suffering,

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<v Speaker 2>which makes it harder for us to want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to those places and do those things. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not one hundred percent sure what's going on, what

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<v Speaker 2>the source is, but I know it's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just put it that way. You know, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think of extraterrestrials or dimensionals in the same terms

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<v Speaker 2>as humans, like, for instance, I think we're all on

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<v Speaker 2>a soul evolution path. We're all trying to find a

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<v Speaker 2>better way and a way that we can interact with

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<v Speaker 2>each other and get along. And as you've seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>quite obviously with the Ponty, you know, there's no need

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<v Speaker 2>for all this fighting and strife and stuff going on

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<v Speaker 2>on planet Earth, And quite personally, I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 2>it to end. Do the Ponte give you any insight

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<v Speaker 2>as to how long the stuff going on on Earth

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<v Speaker 2>is going to continue? Do they have an ability to

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<v Speaker 2>interfere in any way, or do they have to stay

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<v Speaker 2>completely out of it and let humans come to our

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<v Speaker 2>own realizations. What's sort of their take on it and

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<v Speaker 2>what are they doing to ensure their own safety?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's those are good points that you've brought up,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of those things that you've met, they've

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<v Speaker 1>those They've answered those questions on Twitter, and I've taken

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<v Speaker 1>them and turned them into memes which we share on

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<v Speaker 1>social media of some of those responses to some of

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<v Speaker 1>those questions. Oh, by the way, folks, I will be

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<v Speaker 1>taking questions that you do have for those folks in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat room there, So any questions you want, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feel free to answer those. But where is it going

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<v Speaker 1>with this? In regards to interference, they will not interfere

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<v Speaker 1>with what's going on on our planet political wise, or

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<v Speaker 1>manipulation wise, and the sort like that that we need

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out and solve our own problems. And they

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<v Speaker 1>said that a world ready for ET contact are those

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<v Speaker 1>who are have been able to solve their own problems,

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<v Speaker 1>not the not the way other way around.

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<v Speaker 3>M hm.

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<v Speaker 1>However, they will interfere if nuclear weapons are involved. So

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<v Speaker 1>they are not going to allow us to poison our planet.

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<v Speaker 1>They will not allow that. That is when they will intervene,

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<v Speaker 1>because this planet is more important than us when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to like yeah levels, So.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, I agree, and quite honestly, my heart

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<v Speaker 2>goes out to all the non human inhabitants of this

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<v Speaker 2>planet as well, you know, the animals and fish. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at the whales. Oh my god, the whales have so

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<v Speaker 2>much intelligence that we can't even measure it because our

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<v Speaker 2>brains are too small to figure them out. It was

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<v Speaker 2>one of my hopes, excuse me, with AI, that they

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<v Speaker 2>would figure out how to communicate, you know, with dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>and whales and things. But you were given some instruction

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<v Speaker 2>on was it citation communicate? Can you tell us a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more about about about how that.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened for you and what that's done for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? Well, First of all, let folks know that the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of extraterrestrials visiting planet Earth, we've only seen about

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty five percent of them, because seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>lot of aquatic star nations who come to this planet

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't care about humans. They are here to

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<v Speaker 1>see the whales, okay, and to them, the whales are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more evolved than we are. In many cases,

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<v Speaker 1>they are because they've leveled, they've achieved level of zero

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<v Speaker 1>They have a certain level of thing, certain levels like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they take care of their own they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>food has provided, education, and clothing and health is provided

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<v Speaker 1>for their people. So the whales are ahead of us

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<v Speaker 1>than humans. Go put it that way. So, but as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like with the cetaceans, it was back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen when I learned.

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<v Speaker 3>About Thera up here. That's Thera and her.

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<v Speaker 1>Specialty is in the cetaceans, in the whales and the

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<v Speaker 1>language tonal language of the of them, so they speak

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<v Speaker 1>a telepathic tonal language, and they also have they know

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<v Speaker 1>the history of this planet which goes back a long

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<v Speaker 1>long way. And so I asked about, you know, can

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<v Speaker 1>you teach me this tonal language of the whales? And

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<v Speaker 1>they said, yes, we can. And then there was just

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<v Speaker 1>one day where I woke up and I've gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of downloads from the ponte over the years. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of them happened in around twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>a download basically feels like you wake up in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and you're a little bit tired to normal, but

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<v Speaker 1>my head feels like soggy cotton and I'm absolutely exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't even think. I'm falling asleep at my desk,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I just have to go home and have

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<v Speaker 1>a reboot map and then and then it feels, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's basically you just go unconscious and your whole

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<v Speaker 1>brain is reprocessing all these new neural wiring. But the

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<v Speaker 1>downloads won't come until, you know, until you're ready for them,

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever period it is we had, so basically that download.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me three days to recover from this one

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<v Speaker 1>particular download. And then on a Friday afternoon, I was

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<v Speaker 1>really tired of being tired, so I texted to Sue

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, can you tell me what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>has happened like?

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<v Speaker 3>And then theory came on and she said.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you wanted the uh. You wanted the uh whale telepathy,

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<v Speaker 1>the whale total language downloads, so we gave you the

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<v Speaker 1>beginner's course.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, the beginner's course.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this telepathic image was shown to me kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a cartoon where I'm standing here and then

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<v Speaker 1>Radar is above me, and he's got this huge whale

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<v Speaker 1>he's jumping up and down trying to press his whale

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's that is funny. That's what I also love

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<v Speaker 2>about your experiences. But the PONTI is that they have

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of humor. You know, the way that ET's

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<v Speaker 2>are painted as being these really scary, soulless beings. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the route that disclosure has taken. I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>a bit into that with you. It has been just horrendous,

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<v Speaker 2>and so of course can't I can't hardly believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question here I wanted to give to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Not to change.

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<v Speaker 2>Subjects too abruptly, but he'll Billy Herb wanted to know

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<v Speaker 2>have you got do you have any thoughts about let

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<v Speaker 2>me just read it. Does Kevin have any thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>why there is so much UFO activity over Lake Ontario?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a base in the lake or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the answer to that question is yes, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a base in Lake Ontario. And the reason I know

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<v Speaker 1>that is my experience of friend Steve Bouchet, who lived

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<v Speaker 1>in Saint Catharines, which is thirty minutes south of me.

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<v Speaker 1>His experiences ET experiences took place in the nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 1>where his whole band was abducted, and that ship that

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<v Speaker 1>picked them up and landed and all the stuff that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>They came from an underwater base under the lake under

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Ontario. We got that confirmation, so yes, that they

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<v Speaker 1>do have a base in Lake on tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>From my understanding is there could be and probably our

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<v Speaker 2>bases all over the world. Kevin, what can you tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about the underwater basis? So you know there's been more,

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<v Speaker 2>probably more USO sightings and there has been UFO sightings.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, these amazing craft are able to just pierce

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<v Speaker 3>through the water, no backsplash and go.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like wherever they want within our reality. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think there are bases that are being sort of
