Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, Leland Vitters is
Speaker 1: with News Nation every night Monday through Friday at nine
Speaker 1: pm Eastern Time, and he's in touch with what's happening
Speaker 1: in the world and the great correspondent now and news
Speaker 1: anchor himself, and once again Leland Vitter, Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And I checked out your website, of course,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of good information on it about
Speaker 1: warnotes dot com. But more importantly, there seems to be
Speaker 1: I've sensed this many times in the past. The war drums,
Speaker 1: the toxins are sounding, and I hear the thump, thump,
Speaker 1: thump of some sort of war happening with China on
Speaker 1: many fronts. And I had one of the commentators on
Speaker 1: News Nation also throughout many of the publications talk about
Speaker 1: it's similar to what happened with al Qaeda in which
Speaker 1: they declared war on us. We didn't know about it
Speaker 1: until they hit the Oral Trade Center. Is there a
Speaker 1: sense that we're something horrible is going to happen in
Speaker 1: the future. I saw Larry Fink at Blackrock recently give
Speaker 1: a talk about he is frozen with panic about what
Speaker 1: might happen on many fronts. Do you have a sense
Speaker 1: that we're at war with China and we don't know
Speaker 1: it yet.
Speaker 2: Well, we were in the Cold War with Russia for decades,
Speaker 2: so I think that may be a better analogy. But
Speaker 2: certainly the Chinese view challenging America as their destiny, and America,
Speaker 2: by dint of its greatness and how we were formed,
Speaker 2: don't believe in challenging anyone.
Speaker 3: We by definition believe in.
Speaker 2: Fair you know, playing by the rules and fair play
Speaker 2: and better tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's not something that Chinese believe it.
Speaker 1: And of course Jao Ping doesn't have a midterm election
Speaker 1: coming up, doesn't care much about the polls, doesn't care
Speaker 1: much about descent. And when I look at this Chinese relationship,
Speaker 1: I look at southern border issues with fentanyl, and I
Speaker 1: look at one hundred thousand Americans dying, and we can
Speaker 1: talk about addiction, and they're certainly fueling that. I look
Speaker 1: at the purchase of thousands of acres of land around
Speaker 1: military bases, I look at hot air balloons. I kind
Speaker 1: of look at the fact they got ninety five percent
Speaker 1: of our pharmaceuticals are made there. And I look at
Speaker 1: the fact that the malware and our water systems and companies.
Speaker 1: Allegedly there's millions of pieces of malware all over the
Speaker 1: grid that's going to shut down. At one point, one commentator,
Speaker 1: I heard them say, we're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to have water, we won't have electricity, we won't be
Speaker 1: able to communicate. Skies may be filled with planes falling,
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at this going are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: This was never the case with the USSR, in which
Speaker 1: they had missile technology and that was it. They were
Speaker 1: never an economic power. In fact, the GDP of Russia
Speaker 1: is only about two point two trillion. Ours is about
Speaker 1: thirty trillion, not even close. China is about eighteen or
Speaker 1: nineteen trillion. And so why would they have done all
Speaker 1: these things in preparation for what unbeknownst to us?
Speaker 2: I think it is unbeknownst to us. We knew about it,
Speaker 2: we just didn't do anything about it. So appeasing China
Speaker 2: and getting brunk on cheap nikes has been a bipartisan issue.
Speaker 2: Being effeckless towards China is a bipartisan issue.
Speaker 3: By that, I mean both parties engaged in it.
Speaker 2: The Chinese are setting up to challenge US supremacy around
Speaker 2: the world. Now you ask exactly, you know, what is
Speaker 2: their end goals? They want to replace the United States
Speaker 2: as the world superpower. Obviously, the United States has been
Speaker 2: doing everything possible to allow that to happen over the
Speaker 2: past thirty or thirty five years. So if Donald Trump
Speaker 2: is actually sort of serious about confronting China and doing that,
Speaker 2: China is not going to go away easily.
Speaker 3: Therefore, it is going to require.
Speaker 2: A spine of steel by Donald Trump to be willing
Speaker 2: to endure some pretty significant hardships here at home and
Speaker 2: difficulties here at home. That is not something in the
Speaker 2: past that he has shown a willingness to endure.
Speaker 1: And in fact will the American people. You know, China,
Speaker 1: good or ill are all pulling in the same direction.
Speaker 1: And if you don't pull in the same direction, you're
Speaker 1: get a pullet in the head. And so that's a
Speaker 1: in China, if you're an average citizen and keep your
Speaker 1: head down, U don't protest, don't walk in the streets,
Speaker 1: don't post things that government may not like. You can
Speaker 1: live your life. And they're pulling in the same direction. America,
Speaker 1: hardly ever, except nine to eleven, maybe into World War Two,
Speaker 1: we pulled in the same direction. We have disparate forces
Speaker 1: going left, right and otherwise. And I guess that's one
Speaker 1: of our strengths but also one of our weaknesses. And
Speaker 1: I harken back to the comments you I think you
Speaker 1: played it, or maybe it was Croma a few days
Speaker 1: ago of Kevin O'Leary, mister Wonderful on CNBC, and he
Speaker 1: said that essentially we should have four hundred percent tariffs
Speaker 1: on China, he said, because they're thieves and liars and
Speaker 1: cheats and thugs. He said that Chinese will literally steal
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars from individual accounts, they will exploit child
Speaker 1: labor and slave labor, that they engage in mass extermination
Speaker 1: of the wigers and the obliteration of Christian and Catholic churches.
Speaker 1: And I look at that, and I'm thinking, what would
Speaker 1: be the impact if China said, Okay, we're going to
Speaker 1: deal with Malaysia and Indonesia and Australia and South Korea
Speaker 1: and Japan. I don't see that happening either, because despite
Speaker 1: the fact that we have different forms of government, that
Speaker 1: those so called nations countries in the Asian sphere will
Speaker 1: want to be more like America. Than China, and so
Speaker 1: I won't say you and I because we're in the
Speaker 1: news and we know what's going on. But the average
Speaker 1: American doesn't understand the precarious position in which we now
Speaker 1: find ourselves. When mister Wonderful and even Elon must say
Speaker 1: the same thing. They're cheaters, liars, they're communists. They'll do
Speaker 1: any they don't create anything, they steal. Is that an
Speaker 1: that definition on the inir view?
Speaker 2: Sure no, But it is the responsibility of the President
Speaker 2: of the United States to explain that to America and
Speaker 2: to explain why it matters.
Speaker 3: And to not sit around and bloviate about everybody cheage.
Speaker 2: Everybody's cheating this we've been ripped off by the Japanese.
Speaker 3: In the South Koreans dominions.
Speaker 2: If you want to bring America and if you point
Speaker 2: out after nine to eleven, George W. Bush did it,
Speaker 2: obviously after Pearl Harbor, Franklin Roosevelt did it.
Speaker 3: George H. W. Bush did it around the First Gulf War.
Speaker 2: If you want to Robald Reagan did it about confroning
Speaker 2: the Soviets. If you want to be clear eyed and
Speaker 2: have moral clarity about a common enemy that America faces
Speaker 2: and the sacrifices that are required to confront it. Americans
Speaker 2: will respond, that is not something Donald Trump has done,
Speaker 2: nor shown a willingness to do, nor.
Speaker 3: Shown the commitment to do so.
Speaker 2: If he would like to do this, which I think
Speaker 2: is a noble and necessary effort, then he's going to
Speaker 2: actually have to have some message discipline and be willing
Speaker 2: to endure the hardships longer than five days of this
Speaker 2: last tariff debacle and decide that he is going to
Speaker 2: be a wartime president That requires something different. You don't
Speaker 2: get to have as much fun as you do when
Speaker 2: you're the president the way he was twenty seventeen to
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think?
Speaker 1: And every now I look at the market, the gyrations
Speaker 1: up down two thousand and seven points, up, down, up,
Speaker 1: and it's going to continue. I watch every thing that
Speaker 1: I can, and I fear, and I may have told
Speaker 1: you this before Leland Witdertev News Nation, that I fear
Speaker 1: something bad's gonna happen. I mean really bad. And if
Speaker 1: something really bad happens is gonna come from China, maybe
Speaker 1: Taiwan invading Taiwan. They have encircled that island that they
Speaker 1: don't need Taiwan for anything, but it's it's a nice
Speaker 1: diversion from the problems inside China, which are massive. And
Speaker 1: so if that happens, then the word order is completely
Speaker 1: thrown into because in a chaos, because China only imports
Speaker 1: its energy, imports its food, they have one point three
Speaker 1: billion people. They got to be fed, and the world's
Speaker 1: gonna cut them off completely. Now we're in a real crisis.
Speaker 1: And do you have a sense is that why you
Speaker 1: put together warnoes dot com? Do you have a sense
Speaker 1: something bad's gonna happen later this year?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Bill, we're only one day away
Speaker 2: from something bad happening in the world, and you normally worry.
Speaker 3: About the wrong thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's not a lot of people who had a
Speaker 2: pandemic on their twenty twenty Bingo card I started as
Speaker 2: you point as.
Speaker 3: You point out before, by China.
Speaker 2: The one thing that's happening that is terrifying and should
Speaker 2: terrify Americans and should be a real wake up call
Speaker 2: to the administration is, for the first time in my lifetime,
Speaker 2: at times at a time of economic uncertainty and upheaval,
Speaker 2: people are running away from US treasury bills right, right,
Speaker 2: Typically in times of economic upheaval, people run towards safety,
Speaker 2: towards the full faith and credit of the United States government.
Speaker 2: It's known around the world as the safe at dasset
Speaker 2: US treasury bills. And now in this time of economic unheaval,
Speaker 2: people are selling that should scare everybody, and it should.
Speaker 2: It should be a wake up call to the administration
Speaker 2: that they need to become serious and disciplined.
Speaker 3: In how they're dealing with.
Speaker 2: The reputation and the statements about what the US does
Speaker 2: and the sea sign and oscillation by the administration, and
Speaker 2: the undisciplined nature of Donald Trump's communication is not doing
Speaker 2: them many favors.
Speaker 1: In fact, several days ago, I think it was Tuesday,
Speaker 1: that's when he said the ten year treasury note is
Speaker 1: dipping and going down because more and more people, and
Speaker 1: then the yield's going up because more and more people
Speaker 1: are dumping it, including communists, Red China otherwise, but also
Speaker 1: American domestic users are dumping the ten year treasury note,
Speaker 1: which is the safest haven in the world. And now
Speaker 1: maybe it's not the safest haven in the world. It's
Speaker 1: not the wand it's not the Chinese currency. I look
Speaker 1: at the Russian ruble that's completely in the tank. And
Speaker 1: I look around the world and I just sense something
Speaker 1: bad's gonna happen. And I don't know. I hope somehow
Speaker 1: Shijao Ping says, you know what, let's let's trike a
Speaker 1: deal because we're gonna quit stealing intellectual properties. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have a functional court system where American companies that come
Speaker 1: here and have it is spook and get something resolved.
Speaker 1: We're gonna institute property rights for individual individual Chinese citizens.
Speaker 1: And I can't conceive of communism changing anything's possible. But
Speaker 1: then I don't. I don't think Donald Trump has lots
Speaker 1: of abilities, a lot lots of things, but communication to
Speaker 1: the other side, to the Democrats, is not one of
Speaker 1: his strengths. Uh And And so I don't see Senator
Speaker 1: Adam Schiff, and I don't see Nancy Pelosi and Chuck
Speaker 1: Schumer saying, you know what, we're gonna work with the president.
Speaker 1: I can't conceive of that occurring. And I hope both
Speaker 1: of us are wrong and this thing works out.
Speaker 3: However, this is so, this is Adam Shipp's fault.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand Donald Trump ran to be
Speaker 2: president You don't get just to be president when things
Speaker 2: are great and you get to go.
Speaker 3: To the Super Bowl and play golf of Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to be president when things are bad
Speaker 2: and you have to bring the country together.
Speaker 3: And he he has not done that.
Speaker 2: You said you hope that Cheesing Ping makes all these deals.
Speaker 2: The only way chi Jing King makes all these deals
Speaker 2: is through coercion by a strong president. Ronald Reagan it okay,
Speaker 2: and you know he did it by the way, with
Speaker 2: Tip O'Neil as the Democratic speaker. Okay, George W.
Speaker 3: Bush did it.
Speaker 2: Franklin Roosevelt did it. This is when leadership is required,
Speaker 2: This is when moral clarity is required.
Speaker 3: These are serious.
Speaker 2: Times, and I think for Trump supporters that this is
Speaker 2: the time to say that now Donald Trump must show
Speaker 2: that he can lead in difficult times. He can get
Speaker 2: a place on Mount Rushmore if if he pulls this off.
Speaker 2: But it's going to require having somebody other than Peter
Speaker 2: Navarro running around telling us all that the Earth's flat.
Speaker 1: I kind of look at it this way. Every president
Speaker 1: was given a honeymoon except this one from twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: They had no honeymoon. Had the FBI, the CIA dismantling
Speaker 1: his presidency, and now he gets elected by a wide margin,
Speaker 1: and that I'll hear from the Democrats is a threat
Speaker 1: to democracy when Trump wins and we freely elected a
Speaker 1: president that the office party will not work with in
Speaker 1: any way, won't won't sit down with him, will not
Speaker 1: talk with him. Now you can blame Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: I say the opposition party has a duty as Americans
Speaker 1: to say, okay, let's not reflectively oppose everything he does, everything,
Speaker 1: no matter what it is. When he said in the
Speaker 1: State and the addressed to the Congress, if I cured cancer,
Speaker 1: you Democrats wouldn't like it. And of course that's exactly
Speaker 1: the case. He can do anything in this Democratic party
Speaker 1: in the mainstream media is not going to give him
Speaker 1: any credit. And so I don't know, maybe a curse
Speaker 1: on both their houses. But we only have a minute remaining.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this one. I have this
Speaker 1: story which is like saying the sky is blue. Chuck
Speaker 1: Todd of Meet the Press and NBC admits that the
Speaker 1: media would rather lie than help Donald Trump. And I
Speaker 1: look at this story, and he gave this report that
Speaker 1: we always would cover up the mental deficiencies of Joe
Speaker 1: Biden because we thought by covering it objectively and fairly
Speaker 1: and truthfully, it might help Donald Trump. Does that offend you?
Speaker 3: I live in Washington, Nothing really offends me.
Speaker 1: I thought this story of that, Okay, this is you know,
Speaker 1: the sky's blue. Okay, I get that. But I've been
Speaker 1: saying that for a long time. Many conservatives have that
Speaker 1: the mainstream media is in the tank, whether it was
Speaker 1: Obama or Hillary Clinton or Biden, and they're going with
Speaker 1: hooks and claws at Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Fair and now conservative media has talk radio and Fox.
Speaker 3: News and the Daily Wire and.
Speaker 2: Elon Musk's X and all sorts of stuff. Again, I
Speaker 2: come a dish from a slightly different perspective, Bill, I judge.
Speaker 3: Everybody by the same bar. It's what makes news nation different.
Speaker 2: And if you want to be the president of the
Speaker 2: United States, you get judged on your results, not on
Speaker 2: whether or not the Democrats are out to get you,
Speaker 2: not whether the Democrats are working with you, not whether
Speaker 2: Republicans are sycophantic towards you.
Speaker 3: Just on results.
Speaker 2: It's it's a very simple dynamic. And you know you
Speaker 2: love sports, as do I.
Speaker 3: When you're when you're having to cry about the refs.
Speaker 3: You're usually losing. When you're winning, nobody cries about the
Speaker 3: refs a fact of.
Speaker 1: Life, except the refs in this case have one hundred
Speaker 1: dollars bills in their back pocket and they're for the
Speaker 1: other team. And that's what Chuck Todd said. One of
Speaker 1: the one of the gold plate NBC faces of NBC
Speaker 1: News said, uh, Chuck Todd, but hold.
Speaker 3: On, hold on, I'm built. This is what I think
Speaker 3: it's funny about conservatives.
Speaker 2: Everyone said Chuck Todd was a liar and in the
Speaker 2: tank and on and on and now and and hated
Speaker 2: him by the way, I think he was in the tank,
Speaker 2: and I agree with his assessment. But now that he
Speaker 2: says it, he's somehow been absolved of all those things.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, No, he's saying it because he's saying
Speaker 4: it because he got fired at NBC and now he's
Speaker 4: trying to find a way in in trying to find
Speaker 4: a way to be relevant in the Trump administration time.
Speaker 3: Well, he's not saying.
Speaker 2: It because he sat it out of his self present innovation,
Speaker 2: not because he believes it or because he didn't thinks
Speaker 2: he did anything wrong. So again, I don't think, to
Speaker 2: my mind, most people in America are sitting around talking
Speaker 2: about Chuck Toad. They're sitting around talking about their four
Speaker 2: oh one case, whether their kids are going to have
Speaker 2: a better job, their job. The feeling is you point
Speaker 2: out of discontent and uncertainty in America and that's something
Speaker 2: bad is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that coming back.
Speaker 3: To the president.
Speaker 1: That doesn't come back to the media, also comes back
Speaker 1: to the Congress, to the Senate. You know, everything split
Speaker 1: up the leader of the country as Donald Trump, but
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party has never accepted it. They never will.
Speaker 1: When he wins, it's a fault of democracy. When he loses,
Speaker 1: democracy is working. That's that's my viewpoint. Well, anyway, once again,
Speaker 1: warnotes dot Com Leland Viddert to News Nation Monday through
Speaker 1: Friday at nine o'clock Eastern time, and once again, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you Leland's fun.
Speaker 1: Bill God bless you. Let's continue with more and yes,
Speaker 1: we hope to have an objective media. We know we
Speaker 1: don't have, but their power is dissipated to such a
Speaker 1: great extent because of the lies told by the mainstream media.
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