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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, Leland Vitters is

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<v Speaker 1>with News Nation every night Monday through Friday at nine

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<v Speaker 1>pm Eastern Time, and he's in touch with what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the world and the great correspondent now and news

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<v Speaker 1>anchor himself, and once again Leland Vitter, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham Show. And I checked out your website, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of good information on it about

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<v Speaker 1>warnotes dot com. But more importantly, there seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>I've sensed this many times in the past. The war drums,

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<v Speaker 1>the toxins are sounding, and I hear the thump, thump,

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<v Speaker 1>thump of some sort of war happening with China on

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<v Speaker 1>many fronts. And I had one of the commentators on

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<v Speaker 1>News Nation also throughout many of the publications talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it's similar to what happened with al Qaeda in which

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<v Speaker 1>they declared war on us. We didn't know about it

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<v Speaker 1>until they hit the Oral Trade Center. Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>sense that we're something horrible is going to happen in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. I saw Larry Fink at Blackrock recently give

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<v Speaker 1>a talk about he is frozen with panic about what

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<v Speaker 1>might happen on many fronts. Do you have a sense

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<v Speaker 1>that we're at war with China and we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we were in the Cold War with Russia for decades,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that may be a better analogy. But

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<v Speaker 2>certainly the Chinese view challenging America as their destiny, and America,

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<v Speaker 2>by dint of its greatness and how we were formed,

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in challenging anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>We by definition believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair you know, playing by the rules and fair play

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<v Speaker 2>and better tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's not something that Chinese believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course Jao Ping doesn't have a midterm election

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, doesn't care much about the polls, doesn't care

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<v Speaker 1>much about descent. And when I look at this Chinese relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at southern border issues with fentanyl, and I

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<v Speaker 1>look at one hundred thousand Americans dying, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about addiction, and they're certainly fueling that. I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the purchase of thousands of acres of land around

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<v Speaker 1>military bases, I look at hot air balloons. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look at the fact they got ninety five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of our pharmaceuticals are made there. And I look at

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the malware and our water systems and companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Allegedly there's millions of pieces of malware all over the

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<v Speaker 1>grid that's going to shut down. At one point, one commentator,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard them say, we're not going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have water, we won't have electricity, we won't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to communicate. Skies may be filled with planes falling,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at this going are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>This was never the case with the USSR, in which

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<v Speaker 1>they had missile technology and that was it. They were

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<v Speaker 1>never an economic power. In fact, the GDP of Russia

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<v Speaker 1>is only about two point two trillion. Ours is about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty trillion, not even close. China is about eighteen or

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen trillion. And so why would they have done all

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<v Speaker 1>these things in preparation for what unbeknownst to us?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is unbeknownst to us. We knew about it,

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<v Speaker 2>we just didn't do anything about it. So appeasing China

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<v Speaker 2>and getting brunk on cheap nikes has been a bipartisan issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Being effeckless towards China is a bipartisan issue.

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<v Speaker 3>By that, I mean both parties engaged in it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chinese are setting up to challenge US supremacy around

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Now you ask exactly, you know, what is

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<v Speaker 2>their end goals? They want to replace the United States

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<v Speaker 2>as the world superpower. Obviously, the United States has been

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything possible to allow that to happen over the

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<v Speaker 2>past thirty or thirty five years. So if Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is actually sort of serious about confronting China and doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>China is not going to go away easily.

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<v Speaker 3>Therefore, it is going to require.

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<v Speaker 2>A spine of steel by Donald Trump to be willing

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<v Speaker 2>to endure some pretty significant hardships here at home and

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<v Speaker 2>difficulties here at home. That is not something in the

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<v Speaker 2>past that he has shown a willingness to endure.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact will the American people. You know, China,

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<v Speaker 1>good or ill are all pulling in the same direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't pull in the same direction, you're

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<v Speaker 1>get a pullet in the head. And so that's a

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<v Speaker 1>in China, if you're an average citizen and keep your

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<v Speaker 1>head down, U don't protest, don't walk in the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>don't post things that government may not like. You can

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<v Speaker 1>live your life. And they're pulling in the same direction. America,

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<v Speaker 1>hardly ever, except nine to eleven, maybe into World War Two,

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<v Speaker 1>we pulled in the same direction. We have disparate forces

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<v Speaker 1>going left, right and otherwise. And I guess that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of our strengths but also one of our weaknesses. And

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<v Speaker 1>I harken back to the comments you I think you

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<v Speaker 1>ago of Kevin O'Leary, mister Wonderful on CNBC, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said that essentially we should have four hundred percent tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>on China, he said, because they're thieves and liars and

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<v Speaker 1>cheats and thugs. He said that Chinese will literally steal

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars from individual accounts, they will exploit child

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<v Speaker 1>labor and slave labor, that they engage in mass extermination

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<v Speaker 1>of the wigers and the obliteration of Christian and Catholic churches.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look at that, and I'm thinking, what would

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<v Speaker 1>be the impact if China said, Okay, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with Malaysia and Indonesia and Australia and South Korea

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<v Speaker 1>and Japan. I don't see that happening either, because despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we have different forms of government, that

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<v Speaker 1>those so called nations countries in the Asian sphere will

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<v Speaker 1>want to be more like America. Than China, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say you and I because we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>news and we know what's going on. But the average

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<v Speaker 1>American doesn't understand the precarious position in which we now

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<v Speaker 1>find ourselves. When mister Wonderful and even Elon must say

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. They're cheaters, liars, they're communists. They'll do

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<v Speaker 1>any they don't create anything, they steal. Is that an

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<v Speaker 1>that definition on the inir view?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure no, But it is the responsibility of the President

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States to explain that to America and

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<v Speaker 2>to explain why it matters.

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<v Speaker 3>And to not sit around and bloviate about everybody cheage.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's cheating this we've been ripped off by the Japanese.

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<v Speaker 3>In the South Koreans dominions.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to bring America and if you point

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<v Speaker 2>out after nine to eleven, George W. Bush did it,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously after Pearl Harbor, Franklin Roosevelt did it.

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<v Speaker 3>George H. W. Bush did it around the First Gulf War.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to Robald Reagan did it about confroning

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<v Speaker 2>the Soviets. If you want to be clear eyed and

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<v Speaker 2>have moral clarity about a common enemy that America faces

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<v Speaker 2>and the sacrifices that are required to confront it. Americans

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<v Speaker 2>will respond, that is not something Donald Trump has done,

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<v Speaker 2>nor shown a willingness to do, nor.

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<v Speaker 3>Shown the commitment to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>If he would like to do this, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is a noble and necessary effort, then he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>actually have to have some message discipline and be willing

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<v Speaker 2>to endure the hardships longer than five days of this

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<v Speaker 2>last tariff debacle and decide that he is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a wartime president That requires something different. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to have as much fun as you do when

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<v Speaker 2>you're the president the way he was twenty seventeen to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>And every now I look at the market, the gyrations

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<v Speaker 1>up down two thousand and seven points, up, down, up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to continue. I watch every thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I can, and I fear, and I may have told

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<v Speaker 1>you this before Leland Witdertev News Nation, that I fear

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<v Speaker 1>something bad's gonna happen. I mean really bad. And if

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<v Speaker 1>something really bad happens is gonna come from China, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan invading Taiwan. They have encircled that island that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't need Taiwan for anything, but it's it's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>diversion from the problems inside China, which are massive. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if that happens, then the word order is completely

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<v Speaker 1>thrown into because in a chaos, because China only imports

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<v Speaker 1>its energy, imports its food, they have one point three

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<v Speaker 1>billion people. They got to be fed, and the world's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cut them off completely. Now we're in a real crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you have a sense is that why you

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<v Speaker 1>put together warnoes dot com? Do you have a sense

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<v Speaker 1>something bad's gonna happen later this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, Bill, we're only one day away

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<v Speaker 2>from something bad happening in the world, and you normally worry.

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<v Speaker 3>About the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's not a lot of people who had a

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<v Speaker 2>pandemic on their twenty twenty Bingo card I started as

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<v Speaker 3>You point out before, by China.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that's happening that is terrifying and should

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<v Speaker 2>terrify Americans and should be a real wake up call

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<v Speaker 2>to the administration is, for the first time in my lifetime,

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<v Speaker 2>at times at a time of economic uncertainty and upheaval,

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<v Speaker 2>people are running away from US treasury bills right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Typically in times of economic upheaval, people run towards safety,

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<v Speaker 2>towards the full faith and credit of the United States government.

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<v Speaker 2>It's known around the world as the safe at dasset

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<v Speaker 2>US treasury bills. And now in this time of economic unheaval,

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<v Speaker 2>people are selling that should scare everybody, and it should.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be a wake up call to the administration

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<v Speaker 2>that they need to become serious and disciplined.

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<v Speaker 3>In how they're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>The reputation and the statements about what the US does

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<v Speaker 2>and the sea sign and oscillation by the administration, and

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<v Speaker 2>the undisciplined nature of Donald Trump's communication is not doing

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, several days ago, I think it was Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when he said the ten year treasury note is

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<v Speaker 1>dipping and going down because more and more people, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the yield's going up because more and more people

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<v Speaker 1>are dumping it, including communists, Red China otherwise, but also

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<v Speaker 1>American domestic users are dumping the ten year treasury note,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the safest haven in the world. And now

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's not the safest haven in the world. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the wand it's not the Chinese currency. I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Russian ruble that's completely in the tank. And

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<v Speaker 1>I look around the world and I just sense something

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<v Speaker 1>bad's gonna happen. And I don't know. I hope somehow

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<v Speaker 1>Shijao Ping says, you know what, let's let's trike a

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<v Speaker 1>deal because we're gonna quit stealing intellectual properties. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a functional court system where American companies that come

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<v Speaker 1>here and have it is spook and get something resolved.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna institute property rights for individual individual Chinese citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't conceive of communism changing anything's possible. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't. I don't think Donald Trump has lots

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<v Speaker 1>of abilities, a lot lots of things, but communication to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, to the Democrats, is not one of

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<v Speaker 1>his strengths. Uh And And so I don't see Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Schiff, and I don't see Nancy Pelosi and Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Schumer saying, you know what, we're gonna work with the president.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't conceive of that occurring. And I hope both

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<v Speaker 1>of us are wrong and this thing works out.

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<v Speaker 3>However, this is so, this is Adam Shipp's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't understand Donald Trump ran to be

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<v Speaker 2>president You don't get just to be president when things

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<v Speaker 2>are great and you get to go.

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<v Speaker 3>To the Super Bowl and play golf of Tiger Woods.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you have to be president when things are bad

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to bring the country together.

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<v Speaker 3>And he he has not done that.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you hope that Cheesing Ping makes all these deals.

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<v Speaker 2>The only way chi Jing King makes all these deals

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<v Speaker 2>is through coercion by a strong president. Ronald Reagan it okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Tip O'Neil as the Democratic speaker. Okay, George W.

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<v Speaker 3>Bush did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin Roosevelt did it. This is when leadership is required,

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<v Speaker 2>This is when moral clarity is required.

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<v Speaker 3>These are serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Times, and I think for Trump supporters that this is

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<v Speaker 2>the time to say that now Donald Trump must show

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<v Speaker 2>that he can lead in difficult times. He can get

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<v Speaker 2>a place on Mount Rushmore if if he pulls this off.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's going to require having somebody other than Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Navarro running around telling us all that the Earth's flat.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of look at it this way. Every president

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<v Speaker 1>was given a honeymoon except this one from twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>They had no honeymoon. Had the FBI, the CIA dismantling

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<v Speaker 1>and that I'll hear from the Democrats is a threat

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<v Speaker 1>to democracy when Trump wins and we freely elected a

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<v Speaker 1>any way, won't won't sit down with him, will not

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<v Speaker 1>talk with him. Now you can blame Donald Trump, and

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<v Speaker 1>I say the opposition party has a duty as Americans

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<v Speaker 1>to say, okay, let's not reflectively oppose everything he does, everything,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what it is. When he said in the

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<v Speaker 1>State and the addressed to the Congress, if I cured cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>you Democrats wouldn't like it. And of course that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the case. He can do anything in this Democratic party

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<v Speaker 1>in the mainstream media is not going to give him

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<v Speaker 1>any credit. And so I don't know, maybe a curse

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<v Speaker 1>on both their houses. But we only have a minute remaining.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you this one. I have this

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<v Speaker 1>Todd of Meet the Press and NBC admits that the

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<v Speaker 1>media would rather lie than help Donald Trump. And I

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<v Speaker 1>look at this story, and he gave this report that

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<v Speaker 1>we always would cover up the mental deficiencies of Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden because we thought by covering it objectively and fairly

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<v Speaker 1>and truthfully, it might help Donald Trump. Does that offend you?

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<v Speaker 3>I live in Washington, Nothing really offends me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this story of that, Okay, this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sky's blue. Okay, I get that. But I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying that for a long time. Many conservatives have that

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media is in the tank, whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>Obama or Hillary Clinton or Biden, and they're going with

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<v Speaker 2>Fair and now conservative media has talk radio and Fox.

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<v Speaker 3>News and the Daily Wire and.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk's X and all sorts of stuff. Again, I

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<v Speaker 2>come a dish from a slightly different perspective, Bill, I judge.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody by the same bar. It's what makes news nation different.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to be the president of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, you get judged on your results, not on

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not the Democrats are out to get you,

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<v Speaker 2>not whether the Democrats are working with you, not whether

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans are sycophantic towards you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just on results.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a very simple dynamic. And you know you

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<v Speaker 2>love sports, as do I.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're when you're having to cry about the refs.

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<v Speaker 3>You're usually losing. When you're winning, nobody cries about the

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<v Speaker 3>refs a fact of.

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<v Speaker 1>Life, except the refs in this case have one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>other team. And that's what Chuck Todd said. One of

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<v Speaker 1>News said, uh, Chuck Todd, but hold.

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<v Speaker 3>On, hold on, I'm built. This is what I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny about conservatives.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone said Chuck Todd was a liar and in the

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<v Speaker 2>him by the way, I think he was in the tank,

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<v Speaker 2>and I agree with his assessment. But now that he

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<v Speaker 2>says it, he's somehow been absolved of all those things.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, No, he's saying it because he's saying

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's not saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It because he sat it out of his self present innovation,

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<v Speaker 2>not because he believes it or because he didn't thinks

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<v Speaker 2>he did anything wrong. So again, I don't think, to

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<v Speaker 2>my mind, most people in America are sitting around talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Chuck Toad. They're sitting around talking about their four

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<v Speaker 2>oh one case, whether their kids are going to have

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<v Speaker 2>out of discontent and uncertainty in America and that's something

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<v Speaker 2>bad is gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>To the president.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't come back to the media, also comes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Congress, to the Senate. You know, everything split

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<v Speaker 1>up the leader of the country as Donald Trump, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party has never accepted it. They never will.

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<v Speaker 1>When he wins, it's a fault of democracy. When he loses,

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<v Speaker 1>democracy is working. That's that's my viewpoint. Well, anyway, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>warnotes dot Com Leland Viddert to News Nation Monday through

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<v Speaker 1>Friday at nine o'clock Eastern time, and once again, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you Leland's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill God bless you. Let's continue with more and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope to have an objective media. We know we

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<v Speaker 1>great extent because of the lies told by the mainstream media.

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