Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host, Deb.
Speaker 2: Bowen and I'm Samantha Fay, and.
Speaker 1: We're so excited that you are with us for our
Speaker 1: monthly question, answer and Comments episode. So take a deep breath,
Speaker 1: make a cup of tea, and listen to some of
Speaker 1: the wonderful questions and comments that we've gotten from folks. Samantha,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get us started.
Speaker 2: Sounds good.
Speaker 1: I've been a truth seeker all my life, questioning everything
Speaker 1: since I was a little boy. I learned the value
Speaker 1: of being grounded in nature and meditation. I recognized that
Speaker 1: I was different. I was very empathetic and felt things deeply.
Speaker 1: I have been a student of various religions throughout my life.
Speaker 1: I recently completed a six month course on gnosticism. Although
Speaker 1: your podcast resonates with me, I find life so complex.
Speaker 1: You two have courage for the path you're on. I'm
Speaker 1: still searching. I enjoyed the episode of Gnosticism, but it
Speaker 1: left me with more questions and the feeling of life
Speaker 1: being very complex. Your voices also gave light, and that's
Speaker 1: a good thing. Oh. I love this comment. Here's my
Speaker 1: take on this. You I, all of us who are
Speaker 1: on whatever paths we are on at any given moment
Speaker 1: in our lives are seekers and we always will be.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there is ever a definitive this
Speaker 1: is it answer, at least not for me. And so
Speaker 1: when you move along your spiritual path, note the changes,
Speaker 1: pay attention to them, honor them. You don't have to
Speaker 1: accept everything you're learning. There is nothing that is absolute
Speaker 1: in the process that I think we go through. I
Speaker 1: think of this adventure of learning about metaphysics as peeling
Speaker 1: an onion. There is always another layer. Remember in high
Speaker 1: school when you look at the cells of an onion
Speaker 1: under a microscope and you saw that there were cells
Speaker 1: within the cells. That's what this is like too. So
Speaker 1: be kind to yourself, be patient with yourself. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you enough how important I think it is to
Speaker 1: journal about your experiences and your learning process. One of
Speaker 1: the things if you take a class with me, that
Speaker 1: you hear me say every single time is try writing
Speaker 1: down what your journey has been up to this moment,
Speaker 1: and then keep records as to how that journey grows
Speaker 1: and you evolve and you learn as you read and
Speaker 1: study more and look at the world through a variety
Speaker 1: of lenses, and what an exciting adventure that he.
Speaker 3: Is, well said, and you know what, dev, I want
Speaker 3: to always be a seeker too. It's boring to have
Speaker 3: all the answers.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't imagine even thinking that I might have
Speaker 1: all the answers. I'm even other questions exactly, and I
Speaker 1: think that's so much fun.
Speaker 2: I totally agree, beautifully said Okay.
Speaker 3: Our ex Wood says, Ever since last month's full moon,
Speaker 3: I've had sudden, intense thoughts about a guy I used
Speaker 3: to know when I was much younger but lost touch with.
Speaker 3: I haven't really thought much about him in a good
Speaker 3: fifteen years or so, but these thoughts were so sudden
Speaker 3: and intense, and I couldn't shake them for weeks. I
Speaker 3: felt an inner nudge to handwrite a letter, but of
Speaker 3: course my logical brain kept trying to brush off the
Speaker 3: thoughts and throw in every doubt imaginable. But since I
Speaker 3: kept getting a nudge, I asked my guides for a
Speaker 3: sign that I should write and mail the letter. I
Speaker 3: asked for a red songbird if it's a no, a
Speaker 3: yellow bird if it's a yes but not right now,
Speaker 3: and a green songbird if I'm good to go, and
Speaker 3: for good measure, I also asked to see a version
Speaker 3: of the car he used to drive in early nineties
Speaker 3: beat up blue Ford station wagon. The next day, I'm
Speaker 3: second guessing myself and kicking myself that I asked for
Speaker 3: a green songbird? What green songbird am I going to
Speaker 3: realistically see in the winter? So I was like, girl,
Speaker 3: calm down, maybe you'll see a.
Speaker 2: Picture or something. Just trust the process.
Speaker 3: Two days later, I'm driving to a store to run
Speaker 3: errands and got stuck in a ton of traffic. I
Speaker 3: was annoyed, but actually had a quiet moment to sit still.
Speaker 3: So I turned on the radio and the Beatles song
Speaker 3: and Your Bird Can Sing started playing. Then I hear
Speaker 3: the line and your bird is green. It stood out
Speaker 3: as if there was a spotlight on that one line.
Speaker 3: I got chills and had to laugh. I thanked my guides,
Speaker 3: adding the last thing I expected was a song lyric
Speaker 3: thank you, and I heard her response back, well, you
Speaker 3: asked for a songbird, what did you expect? As I
Speaker 3: finished my errands and came out of the store, I
Speaker 3: was shocked to see parked right next to me an old,
Speaker 3: beat up blue early nineties forward station wagon. So I
Speaker 3: wrote my letter with my best intentions and mailed it out.
Speaker 3: That same night, I had a dream visitation.
Speaker 2: With this old friend.
Speaker 3: It abruptly interrupted a nonsense dream I was having, and
Speaker 3: suddenly it was as if we were dropped into this space,
Speaker 3: just the two of us having coffee, and I couldn't
Speaker 3: see anything beyond us on the table, as if we
Speaker 3: were in a bubble. It was super vivid and sudden.
Speaker 3: The first thing I said was whoa, how did we
Speaker 3: get here? He just smiled, and then I said, oh,
Speaker 3: it must be because of the letter. He seemed confused
Speaker 3: and said what letter. I said, I just emailed you
Speaker 3: a letter today. He said, wow, you did all that,
Speaker 3: and we were just having coffee all this time. The
Speaker 3: only dream visitations I've ever had were from close relatives
Speaker 3: that passed I'm curious if you've ever heard of people
Speaker 3: having dream visitations with people who are living or maybe
Speaker 3: my old friend has passed on and I didn't realize it.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear your thoughts. I have heard of.
Speaker 3: People having dream visitations with living people. I've experienced that myself.
Speaker 3: I think it's fairly common and it tends to happen
Speaker 3: when one of the two people in the dream is
Speaker 3: going through something really troubling, sad, or stressful, and often
Speaker 3: their heart chakra reaches out to that invisible web that
Speaker 3: connects us all to anyone that has loved them or
Speaker 3: cared for them or thought about them, to kind of
Speaker 3: pull in that energy of extra light and positivity and
Speaker 3: good hope and prayers. And I think that's what you
Speaker 3: were being called to do. You had a bond of
Speaker 3: love that connected you at one time, and he's relying
Speaker 3: on that bond of love to help them get through
Speaker 3: a difficult time. I hope you get a positive response
Speaker 3: from that letter. From the signs to the dream experience
Speaker 3: of the nudge, that's a pretty amazing experience.
Speaker 1: And I have one more thing to say about that.
Speaker 1: I think of myself as being pretty well versed in
Speaker 1: Beatles music, and I don't know that song, so I'm
Speaker 1: going to go look it up. So thanks for that.
Speaker 3: What do you think about the dream visit? Have you
Speaker 3: had a dream visitation with a living person?
Speaker 1: I have, and periodically. Of course. My perspective is that
Speaker 1: in a dream like that, I'm seeing a part of myself.
Speaker 1: That person doesn't represent someone else, that represents a part
Speaker 1: of me because that's that YOUNGI in perspective of how
Speaker 1: our dreams work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a very authentic dream interpretation. I think
Speaker 3: it has to depend on the emotion that goes along
Speaker 3: with it. For her, she was pulled out of another
Speaker 3: dream and then plopped into this vivid space. I think
Speaker 3: you have to look at the feelings that accompany those
Speaker 3: vivid dream experiences and ask is this symbolic? Should I
Speaker 3: look at what aspect of me is reflected in this
Speaker 3: friendship or the personality of this person, or do I
Speaker 3: feel like our souls were actually meeting and having a
Speaker 3: cup of coffee together?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Thank you for sharing that. That's great, Okay. Our
Speaker 1: next one says My family and I moved from the
Speaker 1: city about five months ago. Since living here on acres
Speaker 1: of land, I've been meditating out in nature regularly and
Speaker 1: feeling more in touch with my spiritual side. My four
Speaker 1: year old son has become very interested in crystals, so
Speaker 1: we've been learning about them together. When I first moved here,
Speaker 1: I was seeing a lot of positive signs that made
Speaker 1: me feel like we'd made the right choice with our move,
Speaker 1: but there have also been some eerie experiences. My four
Speaker 1: year old said at first that his room felt spooky
Speaker 1: at night and that he felt there were many eyes
Speaker 1: looking at him. My two year old woke several times
Speaker 1: crying at night night, had nightmares, and started saying things
Speaker 1: like his lamp was talking to him. I have since
Speaker 1: placed a Himalleian salt lamp in each of their rooms
Speaker 1: as night lights, placed an amethyst by their bedsides, which
Speaker 1: I say a small prayer over each night, and have
Speaker 1: smudged the whole house several times. They seemed to feel
Speaker 1: safe and generally fall asleep now. I've also had my
Speaker 1: own spooky experiences when up with my baby at night,
Speaker 1: I consistently felt a spooky energy in one corner. I
Speaker 1: also began to fall asleep while nursing her in the
Speaker 1: rocking chair and was awakened by whispers in both ears.
Speaker 1: This one felt almost like someone was kindly waking me,
Speaker 1: so I didn't drop the baby. When sleeping in my
Speaker 1: own bed, I was roused by what sounded like a
Speaker 1: shout in the house and sent my husband to investigate,
Speaker 1: but none of the kids were awake and there was
Speaker 1: nothing in the house. He had not heard the shout
Speaker 1: when sleeping with my baby in my bed. One night,
Speaker 1: I woke in sleep paralysis, sensing that there was a
Speaker 1: negative energy in the room, and while still dreaming, I
Speaker 1: struggled to sit up and told it to go away.
Speaker 1: The most startling experience I had was sleeping in my
Speaker 1: bed alone in the early morning. I was roused from
Speaker 1: sleep by something saying pss urgently in my left ear,
Speaker 1: as if it was right at my ear. I could
Speaker 1: feel it. I was again in sleep paralysis and was
Speaker 1: struggling to get up. I called a local psychic, something
Speaker 1: I've never done before. I felt a bit silly telling
Speaker 1: her my experience, as I was still skeptical. She validated
Speaker 1: my experience and told me she didn't feel the presence
Speaker 1: had been evil, but she thought I was awakened to
Speaker 1: my intuition and picking up on spirits. She told me
Speaker 1: I needed to set boundaries. Since then, I say a
Speaker 1: prayer every night before sleep, asking for God and my
Speaker 1: angels to protect me and my children from being scared
Speaker 1: and let asleep peacefully. I also found a hematite ring
Speaker 1: that I bought years ago and have been weighing it
Speaker 1: when I sleep. I haven't had another sleep paralysis episode since. Overall,
Speaker 1: I have been feeling more in touch with my spirituality
Speaker 1: since the experience, and have delved deeper listening to your podcast, meditating,
Speaker 1: speaking to my guides and angels, finding crystals, and really
Speaker 1: believing it all this much more. I feel open to
Speaker 1: awakening further. However, I still feel spooked at night and
Speaker 1: can't seem to shake it. Once it's dark and I'm
Speaker 1: getting ready for bed, I can't help but feel a
Speaker 1: bit scared and feel that I am being watched. I
Speaker 1: lay awake in bed with a racing heart, trying to
Speaker 1: soothe myself. Cognitively, I feel I need to let go
Speaker 1: of the fear because I sense that I'm actually feeding
Speaker 1: or even creating the energy. Perhaps I'm almost inviting it
Speaker 1: there because I am still thinking about it. I'm curious
Speaker 1: about your interpretation and any advice you might have for
Speaker 1: me to shake the spooky nighttime energy for good. I
Speaker 1: love it when people answer their own questions.
Speaker 2: It makes our job so much easier.
Speaker 1: It really does. Don't feed the energy. I am sure
Speaker 1: that having come from the city and out into the
Speaker 1: country that is energetically a big difference in your life,
Speaker 1: not only physically, but energetically. Nature will take care of
Speaker 1: you being in that natural world is a wonderful thing.
Speaker 1: Feed that energy instead. You've done some nice things that
Speaker 1: are very helpful, and I think anybody moving into a
Speaker 1: new space might want to do smudging and clearing and
Speaker 1: setting up boundaries and some crystals and so forth. All
Speaker 1: that's good things to do. But also it's important to
Speaker 1: invite in energy that is helpful to you. So some
Speaker 1: positive crystals, not just hematite, but some positive crystals like
Speaker 1: your Himalayan salt lamp and some amethysts is certainly good.
Speaker 1: And just believe that you are safe and protected and
Speaker 1: that you live in a bubble of light and changing
Speaker 1: your perspective will help a great deal, and I think
Speaker 1: then you'll feel a lot safer. You don't mention that
Speaker 1: your husband has any feelings of not being safe, and
Speaker 1: so you might you talk to him about this sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. You might see why he feels safe and
Speaker 1: how he might help you feel safer. And I think
Speaker 1: also as a parent of young children, the anxiety of
Speaker 1: that is also plays into to your concern about where
Speaker 1: you live. No matter where you live, so send out
Speaker 1: some trust and belief and believe that you will be fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And I also agree with what the
Speaker 3: local intuitive told her, because it's true. Very often when
Speaker 3: you start to waken up to your intuitive abilities and
Speaker 3: you're really getting on that spiritual path, you will have
Speaker 3: experiences like this that do feel scary, But if you
Speaker 3: look at the examples, they're not terrifying. The few times
Speaker 3: she's been woken up, it's usually been to protect her
Speaker 3: or wake her up so she can be safe with
Speaker 3: her baby. So it might even be positive.
Speaker 2: Energies that are there.
Speaker 3: But there is something a lot of intuitive researchers think
Speaker 3: that this also enhances a woman's intuition. We always hear
Speaker 3: that pregnant women tend to be more psychic during that time. Well,
Speaker 3: they think it could be because the heart chakra is
Speaker 3: so wide open, and that's the bridge chakra that allows
Speaker 3: everything else to awaken and work. So it could go
Speaker 3: hand in hand with the move into nature and you know,
Speaker 3: really diving into your motherhood and having the new baby
Speaker 3: and all of that. But Deb's right, the more that
Speaker 3: you trust in yourself, trust in your own energy. You said,
Speaker 3: could I be creating this or feeding this? And Deb
Speaker 3: said yes, And I would agree with that too. So
Speaker 3: if you have that power to create this or feed this.
Speaker 3: Remember you have the power to create anything you want,
Speaker 3: and that includes a peaceful light sleep.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: All right, we're going to take our very first quick
Speaker 3: break of the show.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Here are a couple of events that I've
Speaker 1: got coming up, and I so hope you'll join me.
Speaker 1: On Saturday, January thirty. First, I will be at Dancing
Speaker 1: Moon Books and Gifts in Raleigh, North Carolina. I'll be
Speaker 1: there for an afternoon workshop about my new book, Crafting
Speaker 1: the Wheel of the Year. If you can get to Raleigh,
Speaker 1: I would love to see you. You can get information
Speaker 1: about the event at Dancingmoon Raleigh dot com. And then
Speaker 1: on Saturday, February seventh, I hope you'll join me and
Speaker 1: my co author of Crafting the Wheel of the Year,
Speaker 1: Claire Gelder, for a zoom workshop that focuses on the
Speaker 1: Celtic holiday of Imboke. I'll discuss the cultural and spiritual
Speaker 1: aspects of the season, and Claire will teach you great crafts.
Speaker 1: You can register on my website, Debowen dot com. Thanks everybody,
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Our next one says I recently began connecting with spirit
Speaker 3: and my mom came through, but her physical body is
Speaker 3: still here alive Earth's side, which is confusing. She had
Speaker 3: stage four cancer when I was younger, went through brutal treatments,
Speaker 3: and has been in and out of remission my whole life.
Speaker 3: In the dream, she told me she left her body
Speaker 3: because it was no longer right for her, but that
Speaker 3: she'll see me again in future lives. She was apologetic
Speaker 3: and expressed so much love for my children that she's
Speaker 3: never met. Is something like this possible? Could another soul
Speaker 3: be in her body?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I've tried researching souls leaving the body before physical death,
Speaker 3: but I haven't found anything that explains this. Oh, Dad,
Speaker 3: remember when this was such a big topic, like forty
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: It's called the walk in and there have been a
Speaker 3: lot of books written on walkins. And I don't know
Speaker 3: where I stand on that. I have to be honest,
Speaker 3: I don't want to believe in the concept. I don't
Speaker 3: want to believe that you could have a mother, a father,
Speaker 3: a partner, a child, a best friend, whatever, and they
Speaker 3: go through something traumatic and their souls like peace, I'm out,
Speaker 3: and some random new soul comes in and you're still
Speaker 3: married to that person or being parented by that person.
Speaker 3: I don't want to believe in that, do you Nope, Mark,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't really want to either. But to
Speaker 3: this listener, if you do a quick Google search of
Speaker 3: Walkins or walk in Souls, you will find some of
Speaker 3: the old books that they might be out of print
Speaker 3: by now, but you can always try archive dot org
Speaker 3: orthriftbooks dot com. I would like to think that your
Speaker 3: mom and the soul of your mom is still in
Speaker 3: her field pysical body, but there might be a part
Speaker 3: of her, a piece of her that she's had to
Speaker 3: keep hidden away because I don't know. There's something about
Speaker 3: going through cancer. I call it the ghost that haunts
Speaker 3: you the rest of your life. It's just always in
Speaker 3: the back of your mind. And maybe there's just a
Speaker 3: part of your mom that she just has had to
Speaker 3: tuck away to be able to feel safe in the world.
Speaker 3: And maybe that's the part that you are encountering in
Speaker 3: your dream a.
Speaker 1: So our next one says, Ever, since discovering your podcast
Speaker 1: a few summers ago, I have become a devoted and
Speaker 1: grateful listener. I cannot wait for Mondays to arrive. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Like the two of you, I am an educator specifically,
Speaker 1: I teach high school choir. I would like to share
Speaker 1: a practice I have developed for our classroom since becoming
Speaker 1: a listener of your show. Perhaps other listeners will find
Speaker 1: it useful. I have set up a crystal grid on
Speaker 1: the high shelves above our room, five points with five
Speaker 1: crystal stones, each one chosen to help direct, soothe, and
Speaker 1: make the most of the abundant all over the place
Speaker 1: squarely teenage energy in our classroom every day. The grid
Speaker 1: consists of rose quarts for love and heart connection, tiger
Speaker 1: I for self confidence, blew appetite for motivation, creativity and
Speaker 1: self discipline, Amazonite for harmony and communication, and black thermaline
Speaker 1: to deflect negative energy, protection and reduce anxiety. I regularly
Speaker 1: remove the hard working grid to give all of its
Speaker 1: components a rest in the magical stands off the island
Speaker 1: of the coast of North Carolina. I then recharge them
Speaker 1: for a little while in the sunlights, so that on
Speaker 1: the same shore before putting them all in that cozy
Speaker 1: crystal family pouch, they are ready to work again. In
Speaker 1: addition to the crystal grid, I regularly cleanse the perimeter
Speaker 1: of our classroom with selenite. While playing ambient music of
Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty two to five hundred twenty eight hurts.
Speaker 1: After cleansing with the music still playing, I then sprints
Speaker 1: the perimeter of the room with moonwater to infuse our
Speaker 1: space with love, respect, harmony, and productivity. All I can
Speaker 1: say is it works. My students are all intelligent and talented,
Speaker 1: each in their own way. I truly believe the grid
Speaker 1: helps them to be the best versions of themselves. They
Speaker 1: are kind, supportive, and absolutely lovely to each other. I
Speaker 1: am profoundly fortunate and grateful. First of all, I have
Speaker 1: to tell you how much I love this. What a
Speaker 1: lovely thing for you to do. And you probably don't
Speaker 1: want to get caught because you may.
Speaker 3: Remember our listener from last month, the teacher who got
Speaker 3: in trouble in the Catholic Height school because one of
Speaker 3: the was it. The vice principal said it was demonic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Soon I would urge you to be careful.
Speaker 1: But conversely, I want to go off on that tangent Chris.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring that into this. But this
Speaker 1: is absolutely lovely, and I will say this, your students
Speaker 1: are kind, supportive and lovely to each other, partly because
Speaker 1: you believe they are, and when they know that you
Speaker 1: believe that of them, they respond in kind. You are
Speaker 1: creating far beyond rocks, far beyond sprits and stuff, far
Speaker 1: beyond hurts and ambient music and all that stuff. All
Speaker 1: that's great. I love it, I do it. I think
Speaker 1: it's great. But it is your intention. It is your
Speaker 1: willingness to see the love and loveliness of your students
Speaker 1: that creates that beautiful energy in your classroom. It is
Speaker 1: you who is creating that. And don't not give yourself
Speaker 1: credit for that.
Speaker 3: Eight men and the crystals just helped to amplify that
Speaker 3: intention and love that you bring to the class every day.
Speaker 1: Exactly. It's an absolutely wonderful thing, right, move it on.
Speaker 3: Our Next one says, I was listening to your show
Speaker 3: and heard you say that a lot of your Christian
Speaker 3: friends were surprised that you believe in reincarnation. I wanted
Speaker 3: to share story. One of my earliest memories is of
Speaker 3: standing near the kitchen stove as my mother was cooking.
Speaker 3: I was around three to four years old, and I said, Mamma,
Speaker 3: when I die, you don't have to cry, because I'll
Speaker 3: still be me. I had never heard the word reincarnation
Speaker 3: and had certainly never heard it on TV. I am
Speaker 3: seventy four years old now, and this happened in nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty four. Later on, around nineteen seventy, I had one
Speaker 3: very vivid past life memory of living near a western
Speaker 3: town in a clapboard house where my days were filled
Speaker 3: with drudgery. It then segued to being in a town
Speaker 3: which was very dirty by today's standards and nothing like
Speaker 3: they were portrayed in the movies. At the time, I
Speaker 3: was standing on a box and speaking to a group
Speaker 3: of men and women about why women should be allowed
Speaker 3: to vote. I was then grabbed by some men and
Speaker 3: actually tarred and feathered and put on a horse. The
Speaker 3: memory ends there, but it's still vivid, and oddly enough,
Speaker 3: I didn't vote until I was over fifty. I hope
Speaker 3: this is my last life, loll, but I'll probably sign
Speaker 3: up again. I think we all have said that, right,
Speaker 3: We hope this is our last one, but probably not.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A lot of my Christian friends do not believe in reincarnation.
Speaker 2: I always do.
Speaker 3: I've had experiences like this listener has shared, and gosh,
Speaker 3: if you just look at Brian Weiss's work and nothing else.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can walk away from his
Speaker 3: books and not believe in reincarnation.
Speaker 1: Me either, our brand, Blankenship's work. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: how can you not?
Speaker 3: How can you not and bringing up Brin Blankenship. If
Speaker 3: you just go to a past life regressionist and have
Speaker 3: that experience for yourself of seeing it and feeling it,
Speaker 3: that's a very profound experience that teaches us this isn't
Speaker 3: our only go around, but it is our only go
Speaker 3: around as this unique incarnation. And I think that's really
Speaker 3: important to stress. You know, we will never pass this
Speaker 3: way again, as Samantha Fay as Deb Bowen, we will
Speaker 3: be someone different but still our same essence and soul.
Speaker 3: But I think it's important to remember just how beautiful
Speaker 3: this one perfect life is that we're living.
Speaker 1: True absolutely, And I've said this on the air before.
Speaker 1: I had a past life regression experience where I was
Speaker 1: able to name the person I said I was, and
Speaker 1: dates of birth and death and where she lived. And
Speaker 1: she was a real person.
Speaker 2: She was a real person. You can't make that up.
Speaker 2: You researched it. She actually existed.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean she really did. I can't say that
Speaker 1: I was her but I can tell you that the
Speaker 1: woman I said I was was a real person. We
Speaker 1: think we off on a whole tangent Samantha about the
Speaker 1: concept of past lives at about time and how really
Speaker 1: in past lives are a we in parallel, parallel, on
Speaker 1: and on and on it and on it goes. When
Speaker 1: I read this piece about the listener and her speaking
Speaker 1: out for women's rights to vote, so thank you for
Speaker 1: if that was really what you did, and that was you,
Speaker 1: thank you for doing it. You know, here's to you.
Speaker 3: I totally agree. I was thinking about her poor mother
Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty four. Can you imagine if your little
Speaker 3: child was like Mom, if I die, don't worry about me.
Speaker 3: I would be terrified.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Mom in nineteen tventy four would have been absolutely.
Speaker 2: But what a wise thing to say.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. My next one says, I am going on my
Speaker 1: first ghost hunt in a haunted prison yikes, in the
Speaker 1: UK soon. I'm excited but apprehensive. I've not done anything
Speaker 1: like this before. I've had quite an emotionally draining year,
Speaker 1: so feel fairly vulnerable, but don't want to miss this
Speaker 1: chance with two family members as I am heavily interested
Speaker 1: in spirits, contact and consciousness. They give you an evy machine,
Speaker 1: a spirit board, and a pendulum to work with. Are
Speaker 1: these safe and good tools? I'm mainly nervous about using
Speaker 1: the spirit board. Do you have any advice for a
Speaker 1: good experience, Any tips for psychic and spiritual protection, crystals
Speaker 1: to wear or not, thoughts of questions to have a
Speaker 1: stay away from before and after care. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: have some suggestions. When I was involved for some years
Speaker 1: with a paranormal investigation team, we had a lot of
Speaker 1: important guardrails and caveats and protections that we used and
Speaker 1: I and a lot of trust among us, and research
Speaker 1: that we had done extensively before we went into a location, yes,
Speaker 1: where rocks. My job on the team was to be
Speaker 1: the team's psychic. I didn't carry any equipment, but other
Speaker 1: thos certainly did, except I carried the following. I had
Speaker 1: a piece of termalated quartz in my left pocket, and
Speaker 1: I did that because the black turmaline helped to act
Speaker 1: as a shield and protect me and the courts amplified
Speaker 1: and allowed important information to come through. So I had
Speaker 1: a balance of that energy in my left pocket. In
Speaker 1: my right hand, I carried a compass because compasses will
Speaker 1: often spin on their own volition when there is psychic
Speaker 1: energy going on in a space. And then I had
Speaker 1: a notepad and a pen with me, and that's what
Speaker 1: I took. EVP machines can be very helpful. K two meters,
Speaker 1: for example, can measure electromagnetic impulses in a room. I
Speaker 1: don't know any psychics who use spirit boards anymore, depending
Speaker 1: on the light and working situation. I don't know about
Speaker 1: necessarily a pendulum. Not necessarily that's a bad thing. I
Speaker 1: just don't know about using it while you're working. Don't
Speaker 1: be in spaces alone. Walk with a team member to
Speaker 1: do your part with other folks. If you're not comfortable,
Speaker 1: get out, go leave. It's a team in my group.
Speaker 1: When we have reached points in research where we felt
Speaker 1: like this was not okay, we have shut the research
Speaker 1: down and gathered our tools and equipment and left. Certainly,
Speaker 1: put a bubble of light around you and your team
Speaker 1: at while you're before you start the investigation, and then
Speaker 1: when you got out of there, smug yourselves. Go home,
Speaker 1: take your clothes off, put them in the washing machine,
Speaker 1: get in the shower, and watch all that energy physically
Speaker 1: off of you as well. We always did that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's important because you don't want to bring any
Speaker 3: hitchhakers on.
Speaker 1: You really do not. It's fun to do this kind
Speaker 1: of work. It's interesting. I've seen a zillion TV shows
Speaker 1: where everybody's faces look green and people screamed and hollered.
Speaker 1: That's just terrible and it's rude. Ghost are people too.
Speaker 1: Be polite to people on the other side, if you
Speaker 1: feel like they're there, be kind. If you ask a question,
Speaker 1: give them time to answer. You don't fire questions at
Speaker 1: them so fast. Give them time to respond. You may
Speaker 1: not be able to hear it, but the machine may
Speaker 1: pick it up. So ghost of people too, be polite.
Speaker 1: Think of that you're going in someone's home.
Speaker 3: Looking for to a haunted prison. I can't think of
Speaker 3: anything more hellish than being a ghost in a prison.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that, But this was also where
Speaker 1: these folks lived for a very long time. It was
Speaker 1: still their home.
Speaker 2: True, No, that's true. It just I would hope that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not go on this haunt with this Gale.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go. Not that I wouldn't go with her,
Speaker 1: but I just wouldn't go. I just don't want to
Speaker 1: go to any haunted prisons. That's just me.
Speaker 2: Your hanted prisons scure me.
Speaker 3: And I just hope that someone in these groups that
Speaker 3: are to worrying can help maybe cross them over if
Speaker 3: they want to be.
Speaker 1: The one experience is Samantha and I had together because
Speaker 1: Samantha wouldn't go any more after that. That was Samantha's
Speaker 1: primary focus was to get that woman crossed over, and
Speaker 1: she did. She did.
Speaker 2: But I just hate that idea of someone being stuck.
Speaker 1: You know, it makes me sad, it does, It's very sad.
Speaker 3: I agree that tormalated Qurtz's great to any black tormaline,
Speaker 3: any blackstone is going to be really wonderful for protecting
Speaker 3: your energy.
Speaker 2: Pyrite is also a really good one.
Speaker 3: Because it works to steal in the energy that you've created.
Speaker 3: So before you go into a situation like this, you
Speaker 3: might want to visualize yourself cleared and completely surrounded and
Speaker 3: filled with the light of universal love, and then steal
Speaker 3: that image that intension with a pyrite that tends to
Speaker 3: be really really helpful. In the nineteenth century, they used
Speaker 3: to carry amethysts for protect against ghost isn't that interesting?
Speaker 3: I didn't know that Byron wrote about it in a
Speaker 3: poem after he had gone on a ghost thing.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, so it.
Speaker 3: Is called the All Healers, So Amathys might be good too.
Speaker 2: Maybe So all right, nixt.
Speaker 1: Good luck and be safe.
Speaker 2: Okay, I totally agree.
Speaker 3: All right, we're going to take our last quick break
Speaker 3: of the show and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Our next one says I was listening to your September
Speaker 3: Q and A show. On that episode, Deb had commented
Speaker 3: on your friend Gene not coming through to her. You
Speaker 3: responded with a response from Gene. Shortly after that, you
Speaker 3: responded to a listener question with an intuitive response. And
Speaker 3: all the years I've been following your podcast, I don't
Speaker 3: remember either of you responding with a message from spirit.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it was so meaningful to me.
Speaker 3: I remember in the past you have said you thought
Speaker 3: it was important for us to seek our own messages.
Speaker 3: I suppose it just seemed exciting to hear you using
Speaker 3: your gift.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I've often wondered what downloads were called before the word
Speaker 3: download came into our consciousness. To my knowledge, it's a
Speaker 3: relatively new term that came with computers.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Thank you. Both for being there
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 3: You are both such a special part of my life. Well,
Speaker 3: thank you for sharing this. You know you and I
Speaker 3: made a conscious effort not to be all psychic on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that that was a long time ago.
Speaker 2: We were like, we need to stop.
Speaker 3: We stopped doing the call in live readings, and we
Speaker 3: just kind of stopped sharing our intuitive nudges and instincts
Speaker 3: because we thought, well.
Speaker 2: We're teachers.
Speaker 3: We're supposed to be teaching people how to do this,
Speaker 3: not just kind of I don't want to say.
Speaker 1: But exactly. We didn't want this to turn into a
Speaker 1: dog and pony show. And also what our intuitive abilities
Speaker 1: and hits maybe on a given situation is not nearly
Speaker 1: as important as your own about your own situation, And
Speaker 1: so we made, as Samantha says, a conscious effort not
Speaker 1: to do that, very very rarely. And I think you
Speaker 1: responding with a message from Gene was your way of
Speaker 1: trying to comfort me from the fact that you didn't
Speaker 1: talk to me. I do. And I think this is
Speaker 1: a great question that Scale's asked about downloads. I think
Speaker 1: maybe messages. I'm thinking back to things like I've read
Speaker 1: by Arthur Ford or Ruth Montgomery or inspiration.
Speaker 3: A lot of them would say I had some inspiration
Speaker 3: or an AHA moment. But I do love the word
Speaker 3: download because that's exactly how it feels when you get
Speaker 3: an intuitive hit. It's as though something has just been
Speaker 3: dropped into your head or downloaded into your computer brain.
Speaker 1: When I saw the psychic the medium in gladston Bury
Speaker 1: with the Spiritualist Church, her question to me was, will
Speaker 1: you let me see actually worded it? Will you take
Speaker 1: a communication from somebody? What's the way she works? Oh?
Speaker 1: I like that, Yeah, will you take a communication from?
Speaker 1: And it was from my mother, and of course the
Speaker 1: answer was yeahs.
Speaker 3: It is so important to ask that though, because we've
Speaker 3: gotten the nose. How many times have we done readings
Speaker 3: and people are like, yeah, I really don't want to.
Speaker 2: Hear from her?
Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely, Oh yeah yeah again. Part of this is
Speaker 1: just politeness and respect for both the person for whom
Speaker 1: you're reading and the person who might like to be
Speaker 1: coming through. Although I can't speak so much to that
Speaker 1: because I'm not the medium, but certainly it is true
Speaker 1: that you have to have permission.
Speaker 3: Which people is not true. I've seen debdu mediumship. She
Speaker 3: chooses not to be a medium. Just had to say that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, I leave that world to use
Speaker 1: land choice. It is okay, thank you all, moving on down, okay,
Speaker 1: all right. The next one says, when I was twenty seven,
Speaker 1: I went on a wilderness retreat from my business school
Speaker 1: program that was grounded in indigenous cultural practices and teachings.
Speaker 1: For five days, we camped in nature and participated in
Speaker 1: ceremonies meant to connect us with the land and the
Speaker 1: unseen world. One night, in the stillness of the dark,
Speaker 1: I awoke to an unmistakable presence. The air in my
Speaker 1: tent felt charged, alive, and my chest grew warm and tingly,
Speaker 1: as though I was sitting before a small fire. Then,
Speaker 1: in a dim glow, she appeared, a silver haired Indigenous
Speaker 1: woman crosslegged on the floor right beside my bed. Her
Speaker 1: form was solid, like a live person sitting right beside me.
Speaker 1: I was nervous, terrified, but I couldn't speak. I was afraid,
Speaker 1: so scared I didn't move. I had never encountered anything supernatural,
Speaker 1: and I was not a believer in woo woo. Over
Speaker 1: the next fifteen minutes or so, my terror slowly dissolved
Speaker 1: into the warmth of her presence. She radiated the same steady,
Speaker 1: comforting energy of a grandmother, inviting you to sit close
Speaker 1: and listen to her stories. Though she did not speak aloud,
Speaker 1: I felt her message clearly, Everything is okay, you are safe,
Speaker 1: follow this path. She stayed there quite a while, glowing
Speaker 1: in the dark. Then just as gently as she had come,
Speaker 1: she faded away in the morning. When I told my friends,
Speaker 1: they asked if I had been dreaming, But I knew
Speaker 1: the difference between a dream and something real, something sacred.
Speaker 1: What I experienced was no dream. It was an encounter
Speaker 1: with a guiding, reassuring spirit, an elder whose presence has
Speaker 1: never left me. After this encounter, I explored indigenous teachings
Speaker 1: and called utural practices, befriending many teachers who would host
Speaker 1: sweat lodgest ceremonies and solo time on the land. She
Speaker 1: was always with me, encouraging my path. Even now, twenty
Speaker 1: two years later, when I need grounding or courage, even
Speaker 1: in the corporate world, I call on her. That night
Speaker 1: opened me to a world of spirituality, of guidance, and
Speaker 1: of mystery. And I know without a doubt that I
Speaker 1: met a soul who was very real. She may have
Speaker 1: spooped me out of my skin initially, but she changed
Speaker 1: my life. Whoo, been there, done that? Understand it? Believe it.
Speaker 1: How wonderful that you have her with you.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is such a great example of what
Speaker 3: our spirit guys do for us and with us.
Speaker 1: As we have talked many times on the show, that
Speaker 1: my primary guide presents as a man from a southwestern
Speaker 1: US trie and he has been with me since I
Speaker 1: was a tiny child. When I was very small, and
Speaker 1: I would describe him to Mama, she thought I just
Speaker 1: had a really great imagination. I'm like, oh no, he's
Speaker 1: like way real at the foot of my bed. So
Speaker 1: I have no doubts at all about this person's story none.
Speaker 1: What I would invite you to do is to remember
Speaker 1: to say thank you every time she appears, to not
Speaker 1: necessarily ask anything of her to help you with or do,
Speaker 1: and keep in mind, and this is not just for
Speaker 1: this listener, but for so many people. We think of
Speaker 1: this land mass that we call the United States as
Speaker 1: being one country, and it is, and within it there
Speaker 1: are more than five hundred and fifty other sovereign nations,
Speaker 1: each with their own culture and beliefs. And languages and
Speaker 1: practices and rituals and spiritualities. And I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that there is so much to learn from so
Speaker 1: many different folks, and so many nuances of different belief systems.
Speaker 1: And so I just invite you folks to think about,
Speaker 1: if you're being called to connect with the indigenous peoples
Speaker 1: of this land mass, that you really do spend some
Speaker 1: time really doing some research and learning and asking to
Speaker 1: be guided. Thank you so much for this. I'm very
Speaker 1: happy for you and your connection to this guide.
Speaker 3: I love that our next one says I have heard
Speaker 3: two people, Gary Wayne and doctor Larry Allison, who are
Speaker 3: both Christians, say that we should not pray to angels,
Speaker 3: but only to God. So does that mean that when
Speaker 3: we ask for help from archangel Michael, is that considered praying?
Speaker 3: And if so, what do you feel about that? I'm
Speaker 3: feeling torn about it. I pray and talk to God
Speaker 3: every day, but I also ask for protection from my angels.
Speaker 3: I'd like to hear what you have to say about that.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, deb I'm gonna definitely ask for your input
Speaker 3: since you were raised more traditionally Christian, since I was
Speaker 3: in the raised right, and we're both that's both Christian
Speaker 3: but very different. Yes, because Catholics are taught we can
Speaker 3: pray to lots of people, we can pray to saints,
Speaker 3: we can pray to angels. God's like the CEO, you know,
Speaker 3: That's kind of how we were taught. There's like a
Speaker 3: hierarchy of structure. So when I started hearing my Christian
Speaker 3: friends saying, oh, you can't pray to angels, you can't
Speaker 3: have an intermediary, you can't even have an icon of
Speaker 3: a Mother Mary, all of that stuff, I was like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Because in Catholicism we're taught
Speaker 3: there's a saint for that, you know, Deb, And I
Speaker 3: did a show called There's a Rock for that. Well,
Speaker 3: if I had a Catholic podcast, I could do a
Speaker 3: show called There's a Saint for that, because there is.
Speaker 3: Did you know, Deb, there is a saint who is
Speaker 3: in charge of bowel movements?
Speaker 2: No, I kid you not.
Speaker 3: And I want you to imagine being a saint, living
Speaker 3: a saintly life, performing miracles here, performing miracles after you die,
Speaker 3: and you finally get sainted and God the CEO gets
Speaker 3: down and says, thank you so much for your service.
Speaker 3: You are now the patron scene of number twos. That
Speaker 3: would not be a very happy moment, would it.
Speaker 1: Well, but wait, okay, wait, I'm laughing, and I'm laughing
Speaker 1: at the way you're delivering this. I'm not laughing at
Speaker 1: the angel. Conversely, I bet you there are millions, maybe
Speaker 1: even billions of people on this planet who should, could
Speaker 1: perhaps need to connect with that angel. I'm ecaying. You
Speaker 1: know it's not a bad thing. Don't laugh, it's true.
Speaker 2: No, I know, it's a real thing. I get it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so there's a saint for everything, and so
Speaker 3: we are taught that there are many mediaries and many
Speaker 3: people that we can pray to. By the way, it's
Speaker 3: Saint Bonaventure in case anyone does want to pray to
Speaker 3: the scene of vowel movements. Okay, I think that even
Speaker 3: if you don't want to look at it, I don't
Speaker 3: even know if I look at it as praying to
Speaker 3: Archangel Michael, I look at it as soliciting his help.
Speaker 2: What terminology do you use for that?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the one time I have talked to
Speaker 1: the Archangel Michael, I told him I as a friend
Speaker 1: of yours, remember, yes.
Speaker 3: And I didn't like you needed to submit reference letters.
Speaker 1: Well, I felt like I did, because you know he
Speaker 1: didn't know me from Adam Sauskat.
Speaker 2: That's not true.
Speaker 1: Well, you know it is true. But in any case,
Speaker 1: so I didn't pray to him. I just asked him
Speaker 1: for his help. In the Protestant world in which I
Speaker 1: grew up, you prayed to God, and you prayed to Jesus.
Speaker 1: You didn't pray to Mama Mary, nor to the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1: But we pray to Jesus and God because they were
Speaker 1: the guys who could do stuff. And today's way of
Speaker 1: thinking in the way that I believe that notion of
Speaker 1: sending up prayers goes to wherever it needs to go
Speaker 1: to whatever energy is connected to the question. So it's
Speaker 1: not just to a God or to a goddess necessarily,
Speaker 1: although it can be and has been, so I say
Speaker 1: it is much more broad than that. But again I
Speaker 1: don't know about the angel thing. I don't pray to
Speaker 1: my spirit guide. I don't pray to him or them,
Speaker 1: because there's a team of them. I ask again for
Speaker 1: guidance and help and assistance, but it's not prayer in
Speaker 1: the same way I think that this listener means prayer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean like I talk to them,
Speaker 3: I solicit their help, but I don't really pray to them.
Speaker 2: I do pray to this.
Speaker 3: Idea, idea of God, Goddess. The Creator is really what
Speaker 3: I call it, our creator, and I ask for help.
Speaker 3: But I think it's important too, just to echo back
Speaker 3: to our last question. I always pray obviously for my
Speaker 3: family and my friends and you and Joel and the world,
Speaker 3: but I also pray for my guides, and I ask
Speaker 3: that the Creator looks over them and acknowledges the good
Speaker 3: work they're doing. And I think that's another way we
Speaker 3: can give back to our team of helpers their prayers too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, anyone who's guiding me or you, deb can you
Speaker 3: imagine they need our prayers?
Speaker 2: You bet they do help them to help us. Amen?
Speaker 2: Can I get an amen?
Speaker 1: Okay? Our next one says, Hi, ladies, I'm a fairly
Speaker 1: new listener and just love your monthly email episodes. They
Speaker 1: help me feel like I'm catching up on all I've
Speaker 1: yet to learn. I am in the process of getting divorced.
Speaker 1: It's amicable and we will be co parents for a
Speaker 1: long time. So I spend a lot of emotional energy
Speaker 1: channeling empathy and compassion towards all involved. My question is
Speaker 1: about items gifted to me over twenty years of marriage.
Speaker 1: I have a jewelry collection now of gifts for my
Speaker 1: soon to be ex husband, which are beautiful and I love,
Speaker 1: but are all tied to moments in time with him.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to forget the past. We have plenty
Speaker 1: of good times to be proud of, and I'd like
Speaker 1: to be able to wear these pieces again without feeling
Speaker 1: the emotional weight I feel with them now. Is there
Speaker 1: something I can do to change the energy around these
Speaker 1: pieces so I can feel comfortable wearing them again. I'd
Speaker 1: also like to pass them on to our children someday,
Speaker 1: so I really do want the energy around them to
Speaker 1: be about love and living from peace and not disillusion.
Speaker 1: Well that's lovely.
Speaker 2: I love this question.
Speaker 1: I think this is just wonderful. Guess what I would
Speaker 1: suggest to you give yourself some time, put them away
Speaker 1: in some kind of a lovely container for safe keeping,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how long I mean by a bit,
Speaker 1: until you feel like maybe the time has come to
Speaker 1: pull them back out and give yourself permission to have
Speaker 1: some nostalgia and some reconnecting with the pieces and just
Speaker 1: trust the timing and the process of that, but give
Speaker 1: yourself a break from them, put them away, and then
Speaker 1: pull them out later. And I recommend this not just
Speaker 1: with a situation of the divorces this listener is talking about.
Speaker 1: But I had to do that with some of my
Speaker 1: mother's jewelry when she died. I put all of that
Speaker 1: away for safe keeping and just couldn't look at it even.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had my mother's wedding rings and I
Speaker 1: couldn't even look at them without crying. And so after
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, maybe six months of her year,
Speaker 1: I opened that container up and sat with each piece
Speaker 1: and thought about it and looked at it, and eventually
Speaker 1: pulled out a couple of things that I thought might
Speaker 1: be okay, that she might be all right with me wearing,
Speaker 1: and that I would feel comfortable having close to me.
Speaker 1: So be kind and patient with yourself, and indeed, certainly
Speaker 1: put this stuff away for your children. That's a great
Speaker 1: thing to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is, because I think in divorce, I
Speaker 3: think what is so important when you have children together
Speaker 3: is to remember that you divorced that person, you didn't
Speaker 3: divorce the family. And I think the children need to
Speaker 3: hear that and see that reflected. So to just eradicate
Speaker 3: every photo of that person, every memento from the home,
Speaker 3: is got to be shocking and jarring.
Speaker 2: To the kids.
Speaker 3: Just to even think about this and write this question
Speaker 3: down to me shows that this listener is going to
Speaker 3: handle this separation, this divorce with such love and respect,
Speaker 3: and that is just going to trickle down and help
Speaker 3: the children to heal so much better, you know, because
Speaker 3: we have to always remember that those children were conceived
Speaker 3: and created in love, and just because that love didn't
Speaker 3: last does not mean those children aren't loved completely by
Speaker 3: the both of you and something else. I always try
Speaker 3: to tell people going through divorce. If you put down
Speaker 3: your partner in front of your children, just remember you
Speaker 3: are putting down half of your child, because your child
Speaker 3: is made up of you and your former spouse. So
Speaker 3: when you criticize that former spouse, you are criticizing half
Speaker 3: of your child. And they hear that, and I think
Speaker 3: that's really important. So to do all of this with
Speaker 3: that love and consciousness is so so important. I agree
Speaker 3: with your idea, Dub of kind of putting it away
Speaker 3: for a while. You can get a nice little box
Speaker 3: and fill it with some loose sage or some lavender
Speaker 3: for peace. You can put some nice crystals in there,
Speaker 3: some rose cords, or some pink opal or some blue lace,
Speaker 3: ag it for good communication, and then put the pieces
Speaker 3: of jewelry in there for a little while, and then yeah,
Speaker 3: bring them out again. I'm holding onto all of that.
Speaker 3: I'm holding onto my wedding dress. My kids want to
Speaker 3: use pieces of my wedding dress. Some one wants to
Speaker 3: use it in her wedding veil, and the other two
Speaker 3: would like to remake pieces of the tool into their
Speaker 3: children's christening gowns, you know, years and years from now
Speaker 3: when they meet someone.
Speaker 2: And hopefully have a child.
Speaker 3: So there's lots of beautiful things you can do with
Speaker 3: those happy memories. I had a friend who had a
Speaker 3: beautiful wedding engagement band set and she went and tried
Speaker 3: to sell it, and you just don't get what it's
Speaker 3: worth when you try to do that, And so she
Speaker 3: had all the pieces pulled out and took it to
Speaker 3: a jeweler and had it made into another necklace, which
Speaker 3: I think is a really cool idea. It symbolized the
Speaker 3: love transforming into something different and new. But I do
Speaker 3: want to add this before we close out, deb And
Speaker 3: You're not going to know what I'm talking about, but
Speaker 3: I think some of our listeners will. Kim Kardashian and
Speaker 3: Kanye West, including his new wife, celebrated Christmas together this
Speaker 3: year with their children.
Speaker 2: People, if they can come together, we all can come together.
Speaker 1: So I have to tell you, miss smart Elec. I
Speaker 1: do know. No, let me tell you. I don't know
Speaker 1: who all those people are, but I do know who
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian is. And here's fout. I saw a post
Speaker 1: on Facebook this has been some years ago about this
Speaker 1: person and I wrote something like, who is this? What
Speaker 1: is this about? And I think it said something like
Speaker 1: in a world of whatever, be a Kim Kardashian And
Speaker 1: a friend of mine wrote, Deb, in your world, you
Speaker 1: need to be Stevie Dick's not Kim Kardashian. So I
Speaker 1: do know who she is.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Well, not to get into it, but Kanye West said
Speaker 3: some horrible things and is like the poster boy for
Speaker 3: how to be a terrible ex husband. If they can
Speaker 3: come together, one can come together in peace.
Speaker 1: One would hope that would be true.
Speaker 2: Can I get another?
Speaker 1: Amen? Aim and blessed be well. We've had some great
Speaker 1: questions and comments for this episode. Thank you all so
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 2: This has been great.
Speaker 3: We really appreciate you guys taking the time to send
Speaker 3: your questions and stories in. Remember if you want to
Speaker 3: send in a question or a story, all you have
Speaker 3: to do is email us Psychic Teachers at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3: And before we close out, Deb, we got a lovely
Speaker 3: email from a listener over the holiday break and they said,
Speaker 3: this listener wanted to do something to support us, and
Speaker 3: what could they do? Do we have a Patreon page
Speaker 3: and I said, no, we do not, but if you
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Speaker 3: and angels and lots of peace and love to you.
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