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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host, Deb.

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<v Speaker 2>Bowen and I'm Samantha Fay, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited that you are with us for our

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<v Speaker 1>monthly question, answer and Comments episode. So take a deep breath,

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<v Speaker 1>make a cup of tea, and listen to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful questions and comments that we've gotten from folks. Samantha,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get us started.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a truth seeker all my life, questioning everything

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<v Speaker 1>since I was a little boy. I learned the value

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<v Speaker 1>of being grounded in nature and meditation. I recognized that

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<v Speaker 1>I was different. I was very empathetic and felt things deeply.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been a student of various religions throughout my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently completed a six month course on gnosticism. Although

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast resonates with me, I find life so complex.

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<v Speaker 1>You two have courage for the path you're on. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still searching. I enjoyed the episode of Gnosticism, but it

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<v Speaker 1>left me with more questions and the feeling of life

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<v Speaker 1>being very complex. Your voices also gave light, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. Oh. I love this comment. Here's my

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<v Speaker 1>take on this. You I, all of us who are

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<v Speaker 1>on whatever paths we are on at any given moment

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives are seekers and we always will be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that there is ever a definitive this

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<v Speaker 1>is it answer, at least not for me. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when you move along your spiritual path, note the changes,

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to them, honor them. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>accept everything you're learning. There is nothing that is absolute

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<v Speaker 1>in the process that I think we go through. I

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<v Speaker 1>think of this adventure of learning about metaphysics as peeling

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<v Speaker 1>an onion. There is always another layer. Remember in high

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<v Speaker 1>school when you look at the cells of an onion

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<v Speaker 1>under a microscope and you saw that there were cells

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<v Speaker 1>within the cells. That's what this is like too. So

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<v Speaker 1>be kind to yourself, be patient with yourself. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you enough how important I think it is to

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<v Speaker 1>journal about your experiences and your learning process. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things if you take a class with me, that

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<v Speaker 1>you hear me say every single time is try writing

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<v Speaker 1>down what your journey has been up to this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and then keep records as to how that journey grows

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<v Speaker 1>and you evolve and you learn as you read and

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<v Speaker 1>study more and look at the world through a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of lenses, and what an exciting adventure that he.

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<v Speaker 3>Is, well said, and you know what, dev, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to always be a seeker too. It's boring to have

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<v Speaker 3>all the answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't imagine even thinking that I might have

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<v Speaker 1>all the answers. I'm even other questions exactly, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree, beautifully said Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Our ex Wood says, Ever since last month's full moon,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had sudden, intense thoughts about a guy I used

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<v Speaker 3>to know when I was much younger but lost touch with.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't really thought much about him in a good

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen years or so, but these thoughts were so sudden

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<v Speaker 3>and intense, and I couldn't shake them for weeks. I

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<v Speaker 3>felt an inner nudge to handwrite a letter, but of

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<v Speaker 3>course my logical brain kept trying to brush off the

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts and throw in every doubt imaginable. But since I

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<v Speaker 3>kept getting a nudge, I asked my guides for a

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<v Speaker 3>sign that I should write and mail the letter. I

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<v Speaker 3>asked for a red songbird if it's a no, a

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<v Speaker 3>yellow bird if it's a yes but not right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and a green songbird if I'm good to go, and

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<v Speaker 3>for good measure, I also asked to see a version

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<v Speaker 3>of the car he used to drive in early nineties

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<v Speaker 3>beat up blue Ford station wagon. The next day, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>second guessing myself and kicking myself that I asked for

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<v Speaker 3>a green songbird? What green songbird am I going to

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<v Speaker 3>realistically see in the winter? So I was like, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>calm down, maybe you'll see a.

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<v Speaker 2>Picture or something. Just trust the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Two days later, I'm driving to a store to run

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<v Speaker 3>errands and got stuck in a ton of traffic. I

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<v Speaker 3>was annoyed, but actually had a quiet moment to sit still.

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<v Speaker 3>So I turned on the radio and the Beatles song

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<v Speaker 3>and Your Bird Can Sing started playing. Then I hear

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<v Speaker 3>the line and your bird is green. It stood out

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<v Speaker 3>as if there was a spotlight on that one line.

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<v Speaker 3>I got chills and had to laugh. I thanked my guides,

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<v Speaker 3>adding the last thing I expected was a song lyric

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, and I heard her response back, well, you

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<v Speaker 3>asked for a songbird, what did you expect? As I

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<v Speaker 3>finished my errands and came out of the store, I

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<v Speaker 3>was shocked to see parked right next to me an old,

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<v Speaker 3>beat up blue early nineties forward station wagon. So I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote my letter with my best intentions and mailed it out.

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<v Speaker 3>That same night, I had a dream visitation.

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<v Speaker 2>With this old friend.

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<v Speaker 3>It abruptly interrupted a nonsense dream I was having, and

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly it was as if we were dropped into this space,

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<v Speaker 3>just the two of us having coffee, and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>see anything beyond us on the table, as if we

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<v Speaker 3>were in a bubble. It was super vivid and sudden.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing I said was whoa, how did we

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<v Speaker 3>get here? He just smiled, and then I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it must be because of the letter. He seemed confused

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<v Speaker 3>and said what letter. I said, I just emailed you

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<v Speaker 3>a letter today. He said, wow, you did all that,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were just having coffee all this time. The

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<v Speaker 3>only dream visitations I've ever had were from close relatives

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<v Speaker 3>that passed I'm curious if you've ever heard of people

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<v Speaker 3>having dream visitations with people who are living or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>my old friend has passed on and I didn't realize it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to hear your thoughts. I have heard of.

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<v Speaker 3>People having dream visitations with living people. I've experienced that myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's fairly common and it tends to happen

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<v Speaker 3>when one of the two people in the dream is

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<v Speaker 3>going through something really troubling, sad, or stressful, and often

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<v Speaker 3>their heart chakra reaches out to that invisible web that

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<v Speaker 3>connects us all to anyone that has loved them or

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<v Speaker 3>cared for them or thought about them, to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>pull in that energy of extra light and positivity and

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<v Speaker 3>good hope and prayers. And I think that's what you

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<v Speaker 3>were being called to do. You had a bond of

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<v Speaker 3>love that connected you at one time, and he's relying

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<v Speaker 3>on that bond of love to help them get through

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<v Speaker 3>a difficult time. I hope you get a positive response

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<v Speaker 3>from that letter. From the signs to the dream experience

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<v Speaker 3>of the nudge, that's a pretty amazing experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have one more thing to say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of myself as being pretty well versed in

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<v Speaker 1>Beatles music, and I don't know that song, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go look it up. So thanks for that.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about the dream visit? Have you

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<v Speaker 3>had a dream visitation with a living person?

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<v Speaker 1>I have, and periodically. Of course. My perspective is that

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<v Speaker 1>in a dream like that, I'm seeing a part of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>That person doesn't represent someone else, that represents a part

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<v Speaker 1>of me because that's that YOUNGI in perspective of how

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<v Speaker 1>our dreams work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's a very authentic dream interpretation. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it has to depend on the emotion that goes along

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<v Speaker 3>with it. For her, she was pulled out of another

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<v Speaker 3>dream and then plopped into this vivid space. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you have to look at the feelings that accompany those

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<v Speaker 3>vivid dream experiences and ask is this symbolic? Should I

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<v Speaker 3>look at what aspect of me is reflected in this

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<v Speaker 3>friendship or the personality of this person, or do I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like our souls were actually meeting and having a

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<v Speaker 3>cup of coffee together?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Thank you for sharing that. That's great, Okay. Our

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<v Speaker 1>next one says My family and I moved from the

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<v Speaker 1>city about five months ago. Since living here on acres

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<v Speaker 1>of land, I've been meditating out in nature regularly and

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<v Speaker 1>feeling more in touch with my spiritual side. My four

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<v Speaker 1>we've been learning about them together. When I first moved here,

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like we'd made the right choice with our move,

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<v Speaker 1>but there have also been some eerie experiences. My four

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<v Speaker 1>year old said at first that his room felt spooky

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<v Speaker 1>at night and that he felt there were many eyes

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<v Speaker 1>looking at him. My two year old woke several times

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<v Speaker 1>crying at night night, had nightmares, and started saying things

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<v Speaker 1>like his lamp was talking to him. I have since

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<v Speaker 1>placed a Himalleian salt lamp in each of their rooms

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<v Speaker 1>as night lights, placed an amethyst by their bedsides, which

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<v Speaker 1>I say a small prayer over each night, and have

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<v Speaker 1>smudged the whole house several times. They seemed to feel

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<v Speaker 1>safe and generally fall asleep now. I've also had my

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<v Speaker 1>own spooky experiences when up with my baby at night,

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<v Speaker 1>I consistently felt a spooky energy in one corner. I

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<v Speaker 1>rocking chair and was awakened by whispers in both ears.

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<v Speaker 1>This one felt almost like someone was kindly waking me,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't drop the baby. When sleeping in my

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<v Speaker 1>but none of the kids were awake and there was

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<v Speaker 1>nothing in the house. He had not heard the shout

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<v Speaker 1>when sleeping with my baby in my bed. One night,

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<v Speaker 1>I woke in sleep paralysis, sensing that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>negative energy in the room, and while still dreaming, I

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<v Speaker 1>struggled to sit up and told it to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>The most startling experience I had was sleeping in my

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<v Speaker 1>bed alone in the early morning. I was roused from

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<v Speaker 1>sleep by something saying pss urgently in my left ear,

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<v Speaker 1>as if it was right at my ear. I could

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<v Speaker 1>feel it. I was again in sleep paralysis and was

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<v Speaker 1>struggling to get up. I called a local psychic, something

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done before. I felt a bit silly telling

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<v Speaker 1>her my experience, as I was still skeptical. She validated

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<v Speaker 1>my experience and told me she didn't feel the presence

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<v Speaker 1>had been evil, but she thought I was awakened to

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<v Speaker 1>my intuition and picking up on spirits. She told me

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to set boundaries. Since then, I say a

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<v Speaker 1>prayer every night before sleep, asking for God and my

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<v Speaker 1>angels to protect me and my children from being scared

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<v Speaker 1>and let asleep peacefully. I also found a hematite ring

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<v Speaker 1>that I bought years ago and have been weighing it

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<v Speaker 1>when I sleep. I haven't had another sleep paralysis episode since. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been feeling more in touch with my spirituality

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<v Speaker 1>since the experience, and have delved deeper listening to your podcast, meditating,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to my guides and angels, finding crystals, and really

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<v Speaker 1>believing it all this much more. I feel open to

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<v Speaker 1>awakening further. However, I still feel spooked at night and

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<v Speaker 1>can't seem to shake it. Once it's dark and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for bed, I can't help but feel a

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<v Speaker 1>bit scared and feel that I am being watched. I

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<v Speaker 1>lay awake in bed with a racing heart, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>soothe myself. Cognitively, I feel I need to let go

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<v Speaker 1>of the fear because I sense that I'm actually feeding

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<v Speaker 1>or even creating the energy. Perhaps I'm almost inviting it

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<v Speaker 1>there because I am still thinking about it. I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>about your interpretation and any advice you might have for

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<v Speaker 1>me to shake the spooky nighttime energy for good. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it when people answer their own questions.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes our job so much easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Feed that energy instead. You've done some nice things that

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<v Speaker 1>that's good things to do. But also it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>then you'll feel a lot safer. You don't mention that

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<v Speaker 3>if you have that power to create this or feed this.

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<v Speaker 3>and that includes a peaceful light sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Here are a couple of events that I've

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<v Speaker 1>On Saturday, January thirty. First, I will be at Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday, February seventh, I hope you'll join me and

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<v Speaker 1>Claire Gelder, for a zoom workshop that focuses on the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtic holiday of Imboke. I'll discuss the cultural and spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Our next one says I recently began connecting with spirit

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<v Speaker 3>and my mom came through, but her physical body is

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<v Speaker 3>In the dream, she told me she left her body

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<v Speaker 3>I've tried researching souls leaving the body before physical death,

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<v Speaker 1>So our next one says, Ever, since discovering your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Like the two of you, I am an educator specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>addition to the crystal grid, I regularly cleanse the perimeter

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and thirty two to five hundred twenty eight hurts.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember our listener from last month, the teacher who got

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to bring that into this. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely lovely, and I will say this, your students

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<v Speaker 1>are kind, supportive and lovely to each other, partly because

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<v Speaker 1>creating far beyond rocks, far beyond sprits and stuff, far

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. I love it, I do it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. But it is your intention. It is your

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<v Speaker 1>willingness to see the love and loveliness of your students

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<v Speaker 1>that creates that beautiful energy in your classroom. It is

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<v Speaker 3>Eight men and the crystals just helped to amplify that

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of my Christian friends do not believe in reincarnation.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had experiences like this listener has shared, and gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>important to stress. You know, we will never pass this

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<v Speaker 3>way again, as Samantha Fay as Deb Bowen, we will

423
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<v Speaker 3>be someone different but still our same essence and soul.

424
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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's important to remember just how beautiful

425
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<v Speaker 3>this one perfect life is that we're living.

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<v Speaker 1>True absolutely, And I've said this on the air before.

427
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<v Speaker 1>I had a past life regression experience where I was

428
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<v Speaker 1>able to name the person I said I was, and

429
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<v Speaker 1>dates of birth and death and where she lived. And

430
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<v Speaker 1>she was a real person.

431
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<v Speaker 2>She was a real person. You can't make that up.

432
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<v Speaker 2>You researched it. She actually existed.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I mean she really did. I can't say that

434
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<v Speaker 1>I was her but I can tell you that the

435
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<v Speaker 1>woman I said I was was a real person. We

436
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<v Speaker 1>think we off on a whole tangent Samantha about the

437
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<v Speaker 1>concept of past lives at about time and how really

438
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<v Speaker 1>in past lives are a we in parallel, parallel, on

439
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<v Speaker 1>and on and on it and on it goes. When

440
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<v Speaker 1>I read this piece about the listener and her speaking

441
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<v Speaker 1>out for women's rights to vote, so thank you for

442
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<v Speaker 1>if that was really what you did, and that was you,

443
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<v Speaker 1>thank you for doing it. You know, here's to you.

444
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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree. I was thinking about her poor mother

445
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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen fifty four. Can you imagine if your little

446
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<v Speaker 3>child was like Mom, if I die, don't worry about me.

447
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<v Speaker 3>I would be terrified.

448
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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Mom in nineteen tventy four would have been absolutely.

449
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<v Speaker 2>But what a wise thing to say.

450
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. My next one says, I am going on my

451
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<v Speaker 1>first ghost hunt in a haunted prison yikes, in the

452
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<v Speaker 1>UK soon. I'm excited but apprehensive. I've not done anything

453
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<v Speaker 1>like this before. I've had quite an emotionally draining year,

454
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<v Speaker 1>so feel fairly vulnerable, but don't want to miss this

455
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<v Speaker 1>chance with two family members as I am heavily interested

456
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<v Speaker 1>in spirits, contact and consciousness. They give you an evy machine,

457
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:05.039
<v Speaker 1>a spirit board, and a pendulum to work with. Are

458
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<v Speaker 1>these safe and good tools? I'm mainly nervous about using

459
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<v Speaker 1>the spirit board. Do you have any advice for a

460
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<v Speaker 1>good experience, Any tips for psychic and spiritual protection, crystals

461
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<v Speaker 1>to wear or not, thoughts of questions to have a

462
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<v Speaker 1>stay away from before and after care. Yeah, I do

463
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<v Speaker 1>have some suggestions. When I was involved for some years

464
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<v Speaker 1>with a paranormal investigation team, we had a lot of

465
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<v Speaker 1>important guardrails and caveats and protections that we used and

466
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<v Speaker 1>I and a lot of trust among us, and research

467
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<v Speaker 1>that we had done extensively before we went into a location, yes,

468
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<v Speaker 1>where rocks. My job on the team was to be

469
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<v Speaker 1>the team's psychic. I didn't carry any equipment, but other

470
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<v Speaker 1>thos certainly did, except I carried the following. I had

471
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<v Speaker 1>a piece of termalated quartz in my left pocket, and

472
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I did that because the black turmaline helped to act

473
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<v Speaker 1>as a shield and protect me and the courts amplified

474
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<v Speaker 1>and allowed important information to come through. So I had

475
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<v Speaker 1>a balance of that energy in my left pocket. In

476
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<v Speaker 1>my right hand, I carried a compass because compasses will

477
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<v Speaker 1>often spin on their own volition when there is psychic

478
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<v Speaker 1>energy going on in a space. And then I had

479
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<v Speaker 1>a notepad and a pen with me, and that's what

480
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<v Speaker 1>I took. EVP machines can be very helpful. K two meters,

481
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>for example, can measure electromagnetic impulses in a room. I

482
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<v Speaker 1>don't know any psychics who use spirit boards anymore, depending

483
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<v Speaker 1>on the light and working situation. I don't know about

484
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 1>necessarily a pendulum. Not necessarily that's a bad thing. I

485
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 1>just don't know about using it while you're working. Don't

486
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<v Speaker 1>be in spaces alone. Walk with a team member to

487
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>do your part with other folks. If you're not comfortable,

488
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 1>get out, go leave. It's a team in my group.

489
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<v Speaker 1>When we have reached points in research where we felt

490
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<v Speaker 1>like this was not okay, we have shut the research

491
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>down and gathered our tools and equipment and left. Certainly,

492
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 1>put a bubble of light around you and your team

493
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<v Speaker 1>at while you're before you start the investigation, and then

494
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<v Speaker 1>when you got out of there, smug yourselves. Go home,

495
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 1>take your clothes off, put them in the washing machine,

496
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>get in the shower, and watch all that energy physically

497
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<v Speaker 1>off of you as well. We always did that.

498
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's important because you don't want to bring any

499
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<v Speaker 3>hitchhakers on.

500
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<v Speaker 1>You really do not. It's fun to do this kind

501
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of work. It's interesting. I've seen a zillion TV shows

502
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<v Speaker 1>where everybody's faces look green and people screamed and hollered.

503
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>That's just terrible and it's rude. Ghost are people too.

504
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Be polite to people on the other side, if you

505
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're there, be kind. If you ask a question,

506
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>give them time to answer. You don't fire questions at

507
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 1>them so fast. Give them time to respond. You may

508
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>not be able to hear it, but the machine may

509
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>pick it up. So ghost of people too, be polite.

510
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Think of that you're going in someone's home.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking for to a haunted prison. I can't think of

512
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<v Speaker 3>anything more hellish than being a ghost in a prison.

513
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<v Speaker 1>I would agree with that, But this was also where

514
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<v Speaker 1>these folks lived for a very long time. It was

515
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<v Speaker 1>still their home.

516
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<v Speaker 2>True, No, that's true. It just I would hope that.

517
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would not go on this haunt with this Gale.

518
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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go. Not that I wouldn't go with her,

519
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<v Speaker 1>but I just wouldn't go. I just don't want to

520
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<v Speaker 1>go to any haunted prisons. That's just me.

521
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<v Speaker 2>Your hanted prisons scure me.

522
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<v Speaker 3>And I just hope that someone in these groups that

523
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 3>are to worrying can help maybe cross them over if

524
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<v Speaker 3>they want to be.

525
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<v Speaker 1>The one experience is Samantha and I had together because

526
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<v Speaker 1>Samantha wouldn't go any more after that. That was Samantha's

527
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>primary focus was to get that woman crossed over, and

528
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 1>she did. She did.

529
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<v Speaker 2>But I just hate that idea of someone being stuck.

530
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<v Speaker 1>You know, it makes me sad, it does, It's very sad.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree that tormalated Qurtz's great to any black tormaline,

532
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 3>any blackstone is going to be really wonderful for protecting

533
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<v Speaker 3>your energy.

534
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<v Speaker 2>Pyrite is also a really good one.

535
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<v Speaker 3>Because it works to steal in the energy that you've created.

536
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<v Speaker 3>So before you go into a situation like this, you

537
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<v Speaker 3>might want to visualize yourself cleared and completely surrounded and

538
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<v Speaker 3>filled with the light of universal love, and then steal

539
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 3>that image that intension with a pyrite that tends to

540
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<v Speaker 3>be really really helpful. In the nineteenth century, they used

541
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<v Speaker 3>to carry amethysts for protect against ghost isn't that interesting?

542
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that Byron wrote about it in a

543
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<v Speaker 3>poem after he had gone on a ghost thing.

544
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, yeah, so it.

545
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Is called the All Healers, So Amathys might be good too.

546
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe So all right, nixt.

547
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<v Speaker 1>Good luck and be safe.

548
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're going to take our last quick break

550
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<v Speaker 3>of the show and we'll be right back.

551
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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

552
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 3>Our next one says I was listening to your September

553
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Q and A show. On that episode, Deb had commented

554
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:43.119
<v Speaker 3>on your friend Gene not coming through to her. You

555
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 3>responded with a response from Gene. Shortly after that, you

556
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<v Speaker 3>responded to a listener question with an intuitive response. And

557
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<v Speaker 3>all the years I've been following your podcast, I don't

558
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<v Speaker 3>remember either of you responding with a message from spirit.

559
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but it was so meaningful to me.

560
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<v Speaker 3>I remember in the past you have said you thought

561
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:03.720
<v Speaker 3>it was important for us to seek our own messages.

562
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<v Speaker 3>I suppose it just seemed exciting to hear you using

563
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<v Speaker 3>your gift.

564
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

565
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<v Speaker 3>I've often wondered what downloads were called before the word

566
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>download came into our consciousness. To my knowledge, it's a

567
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<v Speaker 3>relatively new term that came with computers.

568
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<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong. Thank you. Both for being there

569
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<v Speaker 2>for us.

570
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 3>You are both such a special part of my life. Well,

571
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:26.039
<v Speaker 3>thank you for sharing this. You know you and I

572
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 3>made a conscious effort not to be all psychic on

573
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<v Speaker 3>the show.

574
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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that that was a long time ago.

575
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 2>We were like, we need to stop.

576
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 3>We stopped doing the call in live readings, and we

577
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 3>just kind of stopped sharing our intuitive nudges and instincts

578
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 3>because we thought, well.

579
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>We're teachers.

580
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>We're supposed to be teaching people how to do this,

581
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<v Speaker 3>not just kind of I don't want to say.

582
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<v Speaker 1>But exactly. We didn't want this to turn into a

583
00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>dog and pony show. And also what our intuitive abilities

584
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 1>and hits maybe on a given situation is not nearly

585
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 1>as important as your own about your own situation, And

586
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>so we made, as Samantha says, a conscious effort not

587
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 1>to do that, very very rarely. And I think you

588
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 1>responding with a message from Gene was your way of

589
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.359
<v Speaker 1>trying to comfort me from the fact that you didn't

590
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:29.799
<v Speaker 1>talk to me. I do. And I think this is

591
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a great question that Scale's asked about downloads. I think

592
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 1>maybe messages. I'm thinking back to things like I've read

593
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<v Speaker 1>by Arthur Ford or Ruth Montgomery or inspiration.

594
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<v Speaker 3>A lot of them would say I had some inspiration

595
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 3>or an AHA moment. But I do love the word

596
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>download because that's exactly how it feels when you get

597
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 3>an intuitive hit. It's as though something has just been

598
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<v Speaker 3>dropped into your head or downloaded into your computer brain.

599
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<v Speaker 1>When I saw the psychic the medium in gladston Bury

600
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>with the Spiritualist Church, her question to me was, will

601
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<v Speaker 1>you let me see actually worded it? Will you take

602
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a communication from somebody? What's the way she works? Oh?

603
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I like that, Yeah, will you take a communication from?

604
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And it was from my mother, and of course the

605
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 1>answer was yeahs.

606
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<v Speaker 3>It is so important to ask that though, because we've

607
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.039
<v Speaker 3>gotten the nose. How many times have we done readings

608
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 3>and people are like, yeah, I really don't want to.

609
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<v Speaker 2>Hear from her?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Absolutely, Oh yeah yeah again. Part of this is

611
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>just politeness and respect for both the person for whom

612
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 1>you're reading and the person who might like to be

613
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>coming through. Although I can't speak so much to that

614
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not the medium, but certainly it is true

615
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that you have to have permission.

616
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<v Speaker 3>Which people is not true. I've seen debdu mediumship. She

617
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<v Speaker 3>chooses not to be a medium. Just had to say that.

618
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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's you know, I leave that world to use

619
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<v Speaker 1>land choice. It is okay, thank you all, moving on down, okay,

620
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<v Speaker 1>all right. The next one says, when I was twenty seven,

621
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<v Speaker 1>I went on a wilderness retreat from my business school

622
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 1>program that was grounded in indigenous cultural practices and teachings.

623
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<v Speaker 1>For five days, we camped in nature and participated in

624
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>ceremonies meant to connect us with the land and the

625
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>unseen world. One night, in the stillness of the dark,

626
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<v Speaker 1>I awoke to an unmistakable presence. The air in my

627
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 1>tent felt charged, alive, and my chest grew warm and tingly,

628
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>as though I was sitting before a small fire. Then,

629
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<v Speaker 1>in a dim glow, she appeared, a silver haired Indigenous

630
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>woman crosslegged on the floor right beside my bed. Her

631
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<v Speaker 1>form was solid, like a live person sitting right beside me.

632
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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous, terrified, but I couldn't speak. I was afraid,

633
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<v Speaker 1>so scared I didn't move. I had never encountered anything supernatural,

634
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was not a believer in woo woo. Over

635
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 1>the next fifteen minutes or so, my terror slowly dissolved

636
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>into the warmth of her presence. She radiated the same steady,

637
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 1>comforting energy of a grandmother, inviting you to sit close

638
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and listen to her stories. Though she did not speak aloud,

639
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:29.519
<v Speaker 1>I felt her message clearly, Everything is okay, you are safe,

640
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>follow this path. She stayed there quite a while, glowing

641
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>in the dark. Then just as gently as she had come,

642
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 1>she faded away in the morning. When I told my friends,

643
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 1>they asked if I had been dreaming, But I knew

644
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the difference between a dream and something real, something sacred.

645
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>What I experienced was no dream. It was an encounter

646
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>with a guiding, reassuring spirit, an elder whose presence has

647
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>never left me. After this encounter, I explored indigenous teachings

648
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and called utural practices, befriending many teachers who would host

649
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>sweat lodgest ceremonies and solo time on the land. She

650
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was always with me, encouraging my path. Even now, twenty

651
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>two years later, when I need grounding or courage, even

652
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.760
<v Speaker 1>in the corporate world, I call on her. That night

653
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>opened me to a world of spirituality, of guidance, and

654
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>of mystery. And I know without a doubt that I

655
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>met a soul who was very real. She may have

656
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 1>spooped me out of my skin initially, but she changed

657
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>my life. Whoo, been there, done that? Understand it? Believe it.

658
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.119
<v Speaker 1>How wonderful that you have her with you.

659
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is such a great example of what

660
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>our spirit guys do for us and with us.

661
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 1>As we have talked many times on the show, that

662
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>my primary guide presents as a man from a southwestern

663
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>US trie and he has been with me since I

664
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<v Speaker 1>was a tiny child. When I was very small, and

665
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I would describe him to Mama, she thought I just

666
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 1>had a really great imagination. I'm like, oh no, he's

667
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 1>like way real at the foot of my bed. So

668
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I have no doubts at all about this person's story none.

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00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>What I would invite you to do is to remember

670
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.079
<v Speaker 1>to say thank you every time she appears, to not

671
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>necessarily ask anything of her to help you with or do,

672
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and keep in mind, and this is not just for

673
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.679
<v Speaker 1>this listener, but for so many people. We think of

674
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>this land mass that we call the United States as

675
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>being one country, and it is, and within it there

676
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>are more than five hundred and fifty other sovereign nations,

677
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 1>each with their own culture and beliefs. And languages and

678
00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:01.559
<v Speaker 1>practices and rituals and spiritualities. And I love that. I

679
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.599
<v Speaker 1>love that there is so much to learn from so

680
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>many different folks, and so many nuances of different belief systems.

681
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.559
<v Speaker 1>And so I just invite you folks to think about,

682
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>if you're being called to connect with the indigenous peoples

683
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.199
<v Speaker 1>of this land mass, that you really do spend some

684
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>time really doing some research and learning and asking to

685
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 1>be guided. Thank you so much for this. I'm very

686
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 1>happy for you and your connection to this guide.

687
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I love that our next one says I have heard

688
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.239
<v Speaker 3>two people, Gary Wayne and doctor Larry Allison, who are

689
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 3>both Christians, say that we should not pray to angels,

690
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.639
<v Speaker 3>but only to God. So does that mean that when

691
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 3>we ask for help from archangel Michael, is that considered praying?

692
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.400
<v Speaker 3>And if so, what do you feel about that? I'm

693
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 3>feeling torn about it. I pray and talk to God

694
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>every day, but I also ask for protection from my angels.

695
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to hear what you have to say about that.

696
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Well.

697
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, deb I'm gonna definitely ask for your input

698
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 3>since you were raised more traditionally Christian, since I was

699
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.039
<v Speaker 3>in the raised right, and we're both that's both Christian

700
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:23.519
<v Speaker 3>but very different. Yes, because Catholics are taught we can

701
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 3>pray to lots of people, we can pray to saints,

702
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 3>we can pray to angels. God's like the CEO, you know,

703
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.159
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of how we were taught. There's like a

704
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 3>hierarchy of structure. So when I started hearing my Christian

705
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 3>friends saying, oh, you can't pray to angels, you can't

706
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:41.840
<v Speaker 3>have an intermediary, you can't even have an icon of

707
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 3>a Mother Mary, all of that stuff, I was like,

708
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about? Because in Catholicism we're taught

709
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 3>there's a saint for that, you know, Deb, And I

710
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 3>did a show called There's a Rock for that. Well,

711
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 3>if I had a Catholic podcast, I could do a

712
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 3>show called There's a Saint for that, because there is.

713
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.639
<v Speaker 3>Did you know, Deb, there is a saint who is

714
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 3>in charge of bowel movements?

715
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I kid you not.

716
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.239
<v Speaker 3>And I want you to imagine being a saint, living

717
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 3>a saintly life, performing miracles here, performing miracles after you die,

718
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:18.159
<v Speaker 3>and you finally get sainted and God the CEO gets

719
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.360
<v Speaker 3>down and says, thank you so much for your service.

720
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:26.920
<v Speaker 3>You are now the patron scene of number twos. That

721
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:28.719
<v Speaker 3>would not be a very happy moment, would it.

722
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, but wait, okay, wait, I'm laughing, and I'm laughing

723
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>at the way you're delivering this. I'm not laughing at

724
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the angel. Conversely, I bet you there are millions, maybe

725
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.519
<v Speaker 1>even billions of people on this planet who should, could

726
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>perhaps need to connect with that angel. I'm ecaying. You

727
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.800
<v Speaker 1>know it's not a bad thing. Don't laugh, it's true.

728
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 2>No, I know, it's a real thing. I get it.

729
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.079
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so there's a saint for everything, and so

730
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:02.119
<v Speaker 3>we are taught that there are many mediaries and many

731
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.800
<v Speaker 3>people that we can pray to. By the way, it's

732
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Saint Bonaventure in case anyone does want to pray to

733
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 3>the scene of vowel movements. Okay, I think that even

734
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 3>if you don't want to look at it, I don't

735
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.119
<v Speaker 3>even know if I look at it as praying to

736
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Archangel Michael, I look at it as soliciting his help.

737
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:26.360
<v Speaker 2>What terminology do you use for that?

738
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, the one time I have talked to

739
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the Archangel Michael, I told him I as a friend

740
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 1>of yours, remember, yes.

741
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't like you needed to submit reference letters.

742
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, I felt like I did, because you know he

743
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't know me from Adam Sauskat.

744
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 2>That's not true.

745
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know it is true. But in any case,

746
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't pray to him. I just asked him

747
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 1>for his help. In the Protestant world in which I

748
00:42:54.800 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>grew up, you prayed to God, and you prayed to Jesus.

749
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>You didn't pray to Mama Mary, nor to the Holy Spirit.

750
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 1>But we pray to Jesus and God because they were

751
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the guys who could do stuff. And today's way of

752
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 1>thinking in the way that I believe that notion of

753
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 1>sending up prayers goes to wherever it needs to go

754
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to whatever energy is connected to the question. So it's

755
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>not just to a God or to a goddess necessarily,

756
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 1>although it can be and has been, so I say

757
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 1>it is much more broad than that. But again I

758
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know about the angel thing. I don't pray to

759
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>my spirit guide. I don't pray to him or them,

760
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>because there's a team of them. I ask again for

761
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:48.280
<v Speaker 1>guidance and help and assistance, but it's not prayer in

762
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the same way I think that this listener means prayer.

763
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I mean like I talk to them,

764
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I solicit their help, but I don't really pray to them.

765
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I do pray to this.

766
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Idea, idea of God, Goddess. The Creator is really what

767
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 3>I call it, our creator, and I ask for help.

768
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 3>But I think it's important too, just to echo back

769
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 3>to our last question. I always pray obviously for my

770
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 3>family and my friends and you and Joel and the world,

771
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 3>but I also pray for my guides, and I ask

772
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:27.000
<v Speaker 3>that the Creator looks over them and acknowledges the good

773
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>work they're doing. And I think that's another way we

774
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 3>can give back to our team of helpers their prayers too.

775
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

776
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Look, anyone who's guiding me or you, deb can you

777
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:42.079
<v Speaker 3>imagine they need our prayers?

778
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.119
<v Speaker 2>You bet they do help them to help us. Amen?

779
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Can I get an amen?

780
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Our next one says, Hi, ladies, I'm a fairly

781
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 1>new listener and just love your monthly email episodes. They

782
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 1>help me feel like I'm catching up on all I've

783
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 1>yet to learn. I am in the process of getting divorced.

784
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 1>It's amicable and we will be co parents for a

785
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>long time. So I spend a lot of emotional energy

786
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>channeling empathy and compassion towards all involved. My question is

787
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:16.159
<v Speaker 1>about items gifted to me over twenty years of marriage.

788
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I have a jewelry collection now of gifts for my

789
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>soon to be ex husband, which are beautiful and I love,

790
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 1>but are all tied to moments in time with him.

791
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to forget the past. We have plenty

792
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>of good times to be proud of, and I'd like

793
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:33.719
<v Speaker 1>to be able to wear these pieces again without feeling

794
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the emotional weight I feel with them now. Is there

795
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>something I can do to change the energy around these

796
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.159
<v Speaker 1>pieces so I can feel comfortable wearing them again. I'd

797
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 1>also like to pass them on to our children someday,

798
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:48.800
<v Speaker 1>so I really do want the energy around them to

799
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>be about love and living from peace and not disillusion.

800
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Well that's lovely.

801
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 2>I love this question.

802
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I think this is just wonderful. Guess what I would

803
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>suggest to you give yourself some time, put them away

804
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 1>in some kind of a lovely container for safe keeping,

805
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how long I mean by a bit,

806
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>until you feel like maybe the time has come to

807
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>pull them back out and give yourself permission to have

808
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>some nostalgia and some reconnecting with the pieces and just

809
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>trust the timing and the process of that, but give

810
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>yourself a break from them, put them away, and then

811
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>pull them out later. And I recommend this not just

812
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.800
<v Speaker 1>with a situation of the divorces this listener is talking about.

813
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>But I had to do that with some of my

814
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>mother's jewelry when she died. I put all of that

815
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>away for safe keeping and just couldn't look at it even.

816
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I had my mother's wedding rings and I

817
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>couldn't even look at them without crying. And so after

818
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't know, maybe six months of her year,

819
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I opened that container up and sat with each piece

820
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and thought about it and looked at it, and eventually

821
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 1>pulled out a couple of things that I thought might

822
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>be okay, that she might be all right with me wearing,

823
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and that I would feel comfortable having close to me.

824
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:20.360
<v Speaker 1>So be kind and patient with yourself, and indeed, certainly

825
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>put this stuff away for your children. That's a great

826
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>thing to do.

827
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really is, because I think in divorce, I

828
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 3>think what is so important when you have children together

829
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 3>is to remember that you divorced that person, you didn't

830
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 3>divorce the family. And I think the children need to

831
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:41.719
<v Speaker 3>hear that and see that reflected. So to just eradicate

832
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 3>every photo of that person, every memento from the home,

833
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 3>is got to be shocking and jarring.

834
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:48.519
<v Speaker 2>To the kids.

835
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Just to even think about this and write this question

836
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 3>down to me shows that this listener is going to

837
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 3>handle this separation, this divorce with such love and respect,

838
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 3>and that is just going to trickle down and help

839
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.760
<v Speaker 3>the children to heal so much better, you know, because

840
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.119
<v Speaker 3>we have to always remember that those children were conceived

841
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:12.719
<v Speaker 3>and created in love, and just because that love didn't

842
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>last does not mean those children aren't loved completely by

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<v Speaker 3>the both of you and something else. I always try

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<v Speaker 3>to tell people going through divorce. If you put down

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<v Speaker 3>your partner in front of your children, just remember you

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<v Speaker 3>are putting down half of your child, because your child

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<v Speaker 3>is made up of you and your former spouse. So

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<v Speaker 3>when you criticize that former spouse, you are criticizing half

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<v Speaker 3>of your child. And they hear that, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's really important. So to do all of this with

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<v Speaker 3>that love and consciousness is so so important. I agree

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<v Speaker 3>with your idea, Dub of kind of putting it away

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. You can get a nice little box

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<v Speaker 3>and fill it with some loose sage or some lavender

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<v Speaker 3>for peace. You can put some nice crystals in there,

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<v Speaker 3>some rose cords, or some pink opal or some blue lace,

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<v Speaker 3>ag it for good communication, and then put the pieces

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<v Speaker 3>of jewelry in there for a little while, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>bring them out again. I'm holding onto all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm holding onto my wedding dress. My kids want to

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<v Speaker 3>use pieces of my wedding dress. Some one wants to

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<v Speaker 3>use it in her wedding veil, and the other two

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<v Speaker 3>would like to remake pieces of the tool into their

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<v Speaker 3>children's christening gowns, you know, years and years from now

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<v Speaker 3>when they meet someone.

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<v Speaker 2>And hopefully have a child.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's lots of beautiful things you can do with

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<v Speaker 3>those happy memories. I had a friend who had a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful wedding engagement band set and she went and tried

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<v Speaker 3>to sell it, and you just don't get what it's

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<v Speaker 3>worth when you try to do that, And so she

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<v Speaker 3>had all the pieces pulled out and took it to

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<v Speaker 3>a jeweler and had it made into another necklace, which

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<v Speaker 3>I think is a really cool idea. It symbolized the

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<v Speaker 3>love transforming into something different and new. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>want to add this before we close out, deb And

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to know what I'm talking about, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think some of our listeners will. Kim Kardashian and

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<v Speaker 3>Kanye West, including his new wife, celebrated Christmas together this

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<v Speaker 3>year with their children.

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<v Speaker 2>People, if they can come together, we all can come together.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have to tell you, miss smart Elec. I

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<v Speaker 1>do know. No, let me tell you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who all those people are, but I do know who

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Kardashian is. And here's fout. I saw a post

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook this has been some years ago about this

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<v Speaker 1>person and I wrote something like, who is this? What

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<v Speaker 1>is this about? And I think it said something like

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<v Speaker 1>in a world of whatever, be a Kim Kardashian And

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine wrote, Deb, in your world, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be Stevie Dick's not Kim Kardashian. So I

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<v Speaker 1>do know who she is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, not to get into it, but Kanye West said

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<v Speaker 3>some horrible things and is like the poster boy for

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<v Speaker 3>how to be a terrible ex husband. If they can

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<v Speaker 3>come together, one can come together in peace.

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<v Speaker 1>One would hope that would be true.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get another?

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<v Speaker 1>Amen? Aim and blessed be well. We've had some great

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<v Speaker 1>questions and comments for this episode. Thank you all so

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<v Speaker 1>very much.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been great.

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<v Speaker 3>We really appreciate you guys taking the time to send

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<v Speaker 3>your questions and stories in. Remember if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>send in a question or a story, all you have

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<v Speaker 3>to do is email us Psychic Teachers at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>And before we close out, Deb, we got a lovely

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<v Speaker 3>email from a listener over the holiday break and they said,

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<v Speaker 3>this listener wanted to do something to support us, and

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<v Speaker 3>what could they do? Do we have a Patreon page

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, no, we do not, but if you

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<v Speaker 3>do want to support us, one thing you could do

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<v Speaker 3>is give Deb's new book or my books a review

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<v Speaker 3>on Goodreads or Amazon or wherever you read your books.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does help us. Or if you have time,

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<v Speaker 3>review our podcast wherever you listen. All those things really

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<v Speaker 3>really do help support and grow our show, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>so grateful for you when you take the time to

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<v Speaker 3>do that. We hope you have a beautiful week filled

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<v Speaker 3>with your own magical signs and connections to your guides

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<v Speaker 3>and angels and lots of peace and love to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Be the light for yourself and others. Take care, everyone,

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