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Speaker 2: All right, everyone, you know what it is. It's Cosmic
Speaker 2: Peach Podcast and I have a very special guest lined
Speaker 2: up for you today. I have recently worked with him
Speaker 2: on The Occult Rejects, so you may have already heard
Speaker 2: that episode, but it's Rider Lee. How are you. What's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Julia, Thanks for having.
Speaker 2: Me on Really Eazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you like my movie.
Speaker 2: And if you watched it, yeah, I've watched it a
Speaker 2: couple of times actually, So it is available on Amazon
Speaker 2: Prime and is it anywhere else? That's where I've been
Speaker 2: watching it.
Speaker 3: But you can get it on Apple TV Plus and
Speaker 3: you can also get it on to b Now, so
Speaker 3: you got a few options there. I think that it
Speaker 3: was released in the UK also on Amazon Prime, but
Speaker 3: it's not like a worldwide thing. So now that it's
Speaker 3: out on to b more countries that people live in
Speaker 3: can now watch it if you can get the TV apps.
Speaker 3: So yeah, two Amazon Prime and Apple TV Plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love it obviously. I actually watched
Speaker 2: the first two keyword to see that was Jay Widner.
Speaker 2: And then when I saw this one, my husband Colby
Speaker 2: actually I think has spoke to you about it from
Speaker 2: Kenspiracy Playtime. We watched it together and yeah, we were
Speaker 2: both huge fans of it right away. So I wanted
Speaker 2: to have you on ask you my own questions about it,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot to dive into there. But I
Speaker 2: guess I really first want to open up by saying,
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Kubrick fan, obviously, as you can kind
Speaker 2: of tell from my background, But what what is he
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Is he a mad genius? Or is he like a
Speaker 2: bad guy or a good guy, or like where who
Speaker 2: is he to you?
Speaker 3: Well? I've always been a fan of filmmaking. I'm certified centiphile.
Speaker 3: That's when I grew up, like I would just throw
Speaker 3: on a movie. It was like kind of my escapism
Speaker 3: from you know, reality, and I always admired really good
Speaker 3: filmmaking and Qubreak is definitely considered one of the best
Speaker 3: filmmakers of all time, and just his cinematic style. No
Speaker 3: one really does that anymore, right, It's all like jump cuts.
Speaker 3: It's always don't let the shot hang on anybody for
Speaker 3: too long, which is not the way that it's you're
Speaker 3: supposed to tell a story through filmmaking, supposed to be
Speaker 3: a story. You don't have to give everything away in
Speaker 3: the exposition of the film, which is a mistake that
Speaker 3: a lot of modern movies make. Now. They don't tell
Speaker 3: the story through the actual They don't let the camera
Speaker 3: tell the story. They let the characters within the story
Speaker 3: tell the story. That's a really big mistake. Now there
Speaker 3: are a few directors nowadays that you kind of, uh,
Speaker 3: lean in that direction more. They're starting to, mostly with
Speaker 3: horror movies. It's kind of they're starting to not give
Speaker 3: things away within the actual movie and let the audience
Speaker 3: put two and two together. And that's what Cubreak is,
Speaker 3: basically what the Shining is. It's the audience having to
Speaker 3: put two and two together to create their own theory
Speaker 3: of what's going on. And at the end of our movie,
Speaker 3: at Clockwork Shining Kubric's Odyssey three, we have that audio
Speaker 3: clip of Cubriic talking. I don't know if you listen
Speaker 3: all the way to the end during the credits, but
Speaker 3: he talks about the reason why he doesn't do very
Speaker 3: many interviews is because he doesn't want to tell the
Speaker 3: audience what the movie is actually about. He wants the
Speaker 3: audience to figure out what the movie means to them, right,
Speaker 3: And that's a really big deal within filmmaking because again,
Speaker 3: now it's not about that anymore. Now it's just giving
Speaker 3: away the end. Though, like Long Legs, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you watch Long Legs with Nicholas Cage right.
Speaker 2: It's on my list. I haven't watched it yet, though
Speaker 2: it is good, well.
Speaker 3: It's really good up until about the end when they
Speaker 3: tell you everything that's going on throughout the entire movie.
Speaker 3: They don't give you anything because you're trying to figure
Speaker 3: it out, right, And that's what the movie is supposed
Speaker 3: to do. You're supposed to figure things out as a
Speaker 3: movie goes along, and then you put it together and
Speaker 3: by the end you've realized what's going on. But they
Speaker 3: don't do that anymore. It's more of an it's an
Speaker 3: attention span thing because people don't have the attention to
Speaker 3: sit down and watching an hour and forty five minute movie.
Speaker 3: They want to be playing on their phone or doing whatever.
Speaker 3: But when I'm watching a movie, it's like nothing else
Speaker 3: is going on and paying one hundred percent focus to
Speaker 3: the movie. But in the movie Long Legs, they go
Speaker 3: through an hour and thirty minutes of this movie and
Speaker 3: then at the end, right like right before it's getting
Speaker 3: ready to end, they explain everything that happened throughout the movie,
Speaker 3: and it just ruins them the right. Yeah, when the
Speaker 3: audience could have they could have added a few more
Speaker 3: scenes in there, and they the audience could have put
Speaker 3: together exactly what's going on, and you didn't have to
Speaker 3: tell everybody what happened through the movie. They could piece
Speaker 3: it together on their own. And that's a really big mistake.
Speaker 3: I would love to actually direct a feature film with
Speaker 3: like actors and like do an actual film, because I
Speaker 3: think that I could do it really.
Speaker 4: Well, like horror genre or horror genre, or like some
Speaker 4: something psychological mm hmm, psychological movies, like mind bending movies.
Speaker 2: I feel like you'd be really good at that. And
Speaker 2: it's just curious question, but how do you feel about
Speaker 2: Jordan Peele.
Speaker 3: I do like Jordan Peele.
Speaker 2: Okay, I do too. I was just curious because he is,
Speaker 2: to me, a modern day storyteller with some of the
Speaker 2: things that he's coming. I was just curious if you
Speaker 2: thought he was any good because I do, but my
Speaker 2: pig movies.
Speaker 3: I didn't really like Candy Man, but all of his
Speaker 3: other ones Nope, Nope, was really good. It was great.
Speaker 3: Get Out was really good. That other one that he
Speaker 3: did that was like his next US. Yes, yeah, I
Speaker 3: was really good too. Like when you have the formula
Speaker 3: for a psychological thriller, mind bending movie. I think that
Speaker 3: the the problem with directors in like Hollywood is they
Speaker 3: think that it's going to be too psychological to where
Speaker 3: the audience can't figure it out. But the audience is
Speaker 3: way but that that encourages rewatchability. Half the movies has
Speaker 3: come out in the modern day have no rew watchability. Right,
Speaker 3: then once and you're done, but not cubic right. I've
Speaker 3: watched The Shining hundreds of times just making the movie,
Speaker 3: and I watched it hundreds of times before that when
Speaker 3: I was developing my theory of exactly what Stanley Kubrick
Speaker 3: was trying to say within the movie. I watched it
Speaker 3: hundreds of times. Okay, there's not another movie, or another
Speaker 3: genre of movie, or anybody other than Stanley Kubrick that
Speaker 3: you can rewatch over and over and over and over
Speaker 3: again and get something new, because they're like one and
Speaker 3: done movie. M I will never rewatch a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's like you know, they compared to go
Speaker 2: into like an amusement park when you watch a Marvel movie,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's all just like in games and whatever,
Speaker 2: and then it's over and there's like explosions and you know,
Speaker 2: bright flashing colors or whatever. It's like candy movie, you know,
Speaker 2: for like just zoning out. But I've been watching The
Speaker 2: Shining since I was a little kid, and every time
Speaker 2: I watch it, immediately, just like with the opening when
Speaker 2: it's going through the lake and the trees and like
Speaker 2: you're kind of getting the landscape and it's just transcendent almost,
Speaker 2: it like immediately takes you inside the movie. And it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how many times I watch it, I always
Speaker 2: feel like I've stayed at the overlook. By the time
Speaker 2: the movie is over, I feel like I've went through
Speaker 2: the experience. And so I did find it interesting that
Speaker 2: you and Jay Widner mentioned in the movie that it's
Speaker 2: not actually a horror film though, and so what would
Speaker 2: you say.
Speaker 3: That it is. I would say that it is a
Speaker 3: psychological mind bending movie, and but it was categorized when
Speaker 3: it first came out what as like a horror movie,
Speaker 3: as like Stephen King's masterpiece horror movies. But there's very
Speaker 3: few horror elements within Stanley Kubrick's The Shining. There's very
Speaker 3: there's not any jump scares, r one jump scare. It's
Speaker 3: it's more of a psychological thriller. And that brings on
Speaker 3: an entirely new meaning when you watch our movie at
Speaker 3: Clockwork Shining, cubric's honesty three. Because the whole thing is psychological.
Speaker 3: It's a psychological experiment. They're running a psychological experiment up
Speaker 3: there on Jack. The entire thing has ran as like
Speaker 3: an operation. It's a CIA mind control operation that's going
Speaker 3: on there. And once you put all the pieces together
Speaker 3: and you realize exactly what's going on, the entire movie
Speaker 3: makes sense because there's not Everyone has their own theories
Speaker 3: of what's going on in the Shining, and that's not
Speaker 3: to say that any of those theories are wrong. They
Speaker 3: can all be right simultaneously right. But the overall arching
Speaker 3: theory is our theory that we present in A Clockwork
Speaker 3: Shining seems to be the thing that makes sense because
Speaker 3: it also makes everything else makes sense. The moon landing stuff,
Speaker 3: which would be one giant psychological operation faking the moon,
Speaker 3: which would be an mk ultra program like put live
Speaker 3: feed out to everybody in the world all at the
Speaker 3: same time of a fake moon landing. That's if that's true,
Speaker 3: that's one of the greatest mk ultra mind control operation
Speaker 3: as ever existed. Right, Can we make everybody believe everyone
Speaker 3: in the world believe that we went to the moon?
Speaker 3: And that's the type of things that they do. That's
Speaker 3: what the mk ultra programs is really about, is to
Speaker 3: change the perception of people, to make them believe something
Speaker 3: happened when it may or may not have actually happened. Right.
Speaker 3: We can implant memories, thoughts, and ideas into people's heads
Speaker 3: to make them think that something happened when it didn't happen,
Speaker 3: or vice versa, when something really did happen, and will
Speaker 3: make them believe that it didn't happen. Right, It works
Speaker 3: both ways. You can do it both ways. And when
Speaker 3: you look at you and camera and what he was
Speaker 3: doing in Canada whenever the CIA subleased the programs into Canada,
Speaker 3: because that's really where a lot of them went. They
Speaker 3: subleased a lot of these programs to private companies and
Speaker 3: private contractors. And private government contractors so that they wouldn't
Speaker 3: have to reveal that they were doing these experiments, right
Speaker 3: because it's from a private company, and a private company
Speaker 3: is not beholding to the same laws that the government
Speaker 3: is beholden to. So they would use like hospital Wings.
Speaker 3: They would open up a giant hospital wings to just
Speaker 3: test mk ultra mind control stuff. And they had this
Speaker 3: big hospital in Canada and several of the people from
Speaker 3: Canada that was experimented on by you, and Cameron actually
Speaker 3: sued the Canadian government for it and they won. But
Speaker 3: the thing that he was doing was there's a process
Speaker 3: to this. There's depatterning. So you depattern the mind of
Speaker 3: your subject, so you essentially erase all of their cognitive behavior.
Speaker 3: You kind of erase their memories, you erase what they
Speaker 3: think is actually going on, any of their previous ideas
Speaker 3: of what's happening, Like they're the critical thinking and their
Speaker 3: awareness around something that's normally done through trauma. So you
Speaker 3: traumatize somebody, you're essentially deep patterning them. So after they
Speaker 3: traumatize them, they can then drug them and then use
Speaker 3: a technique that's called psychic driving, which psychic driving is
Speaker 3: implanting a thought or an idea into somebody's head. And
Speaker 3: some of their original outlook of what psychic driving was,
Speaker 3: the original definition of how they did it was is
Speaker 3: they would take in a tape recorder, a repeated audio
Speaker 3: looped tape recorder, and they would play it repeatedly to
Speaker 3: these patients that they had been depatterned and druggy. Now,
Speaker 3: as we talk about in the documentary at Clockwork Shining,
Speaker 3: there's a whole list of drugs. Whenever Kathy O'Brien is
Speaker 3: talking about her experiences within the MKA Ultra Monarch program,
Speaker 3: we show a list of all the drugs that were
Speaker 3: used by the CIA and the mk Ultra programs, and
Speaker 3: it's hundreds of drugs, from caffeine to adderall to weed, thenphetamine,
Speaker 3: the nicotine. They used all of it. So it's not
Speaker 3: just LSD. And that's a common misconception within the mk
Speaker 3: Ultra programs. They think, oh, while they were just using
Speaker 3: some LSD, they were just making people trip, which can
Speaker 3: put people out of their mind. We talk about that
Speaker 3: too within the documentary. If you're unknowingly dosed with LSD,
Speaker 3: you have no idea what drug that you you're going
Speaker 3: to think that you're losing your mind. It's going to
Speaker 3: put you a psychosis if you're dosed with a high
Speaker 3: amount of LSD. And there's proof of that with several
Speaker 3: people being unknowingly dosed with LSD. I mean, Project Midnight
Speaker 3: Climax was all about that.
Speaker 2: They were just Frank Olsen stuff.
Speaker 3: Frank Olsen he was unknowingly dosed with LSD and jumped
Speaker 3: out of the what was it the thirteenth or the fourteenth.
Speaker 2: Through a closed window, no less, with a big concussion
Speaker 2: on his head. So he somehow hid himself over the head,
Speaker 2: gave himself a deadly injection of something I think it
Speaker 2: was LSD, and then it jumped out of closed window.
Speaker 2: I mean, the amount of like craziness that goes in
Speaker 2: this documentary of Clockwork Shining. You touch on so many
Speaker 2: there's so much to unpact because it is the Frank
Speaker 2: Olsen LSD stuff, Monarch stuff. Stanley was friends with a
Speaker 2: lot of higher up uppity people at NASA, and it
Speaker 2: is about stuff like that. Laurel Canyon big part of it.
Speaker 2: And then it's like there are so many layers. It's
Speaker 2: like a five layer burrito really, and one of the
Speaker 2: things that caught my attention to is that you mentioned
Speaker 2: this memo. I think it was to the President talking
Speaker 2: about how Stanley Kubrick was the most promising something or other,
Speaker 2: and I think that he was working for the government
Speaker 2: in some unspecified capacity, Like do you think that's part
Speaker 2: of the MK thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know exactly what that project was because
Speaker 3: it doesn't state it in the document, but the document
Speaker 3: states that there are five film directors that are being
Speaker 3: looked at for some unknown government project, with Stanley Kubrick
Speaker 3: being looked at as the most promising. And we know
Speaker 3: that Stanley Kubrick's had ties to the government because the
Speaker 3: Air Force came to the set of Doctor Strangelove. Whenever
Speaker 3: he did the he made a model of the inside
Speaker 3: of the B two stealth bomber, and he'd asked the government,
Speaker 3: the Air Force, for if he could use like if
Speaker 3: you could see the inside of a B two stealth
Speaker 3: bomber so that you can get the inside of it correct.
Speaker 3: The military said, no, you can't do that because it's
Speaker 3: top secret classified information. If we let you do that,
Speaker 3: then when other countries this film is going to be
Speaker 3: distributed in other countries, and if other countries see what
Speaker 3: the inside of the B too Stealth bomber looks like
Speaker 3: and all of its gadgets and how it all works
Speaker 3: and everything, then they can replicate it, right, So they
Speaker 3: said no, And then Kubrick's project designer, his producer, which
Speaker 3: we have talking about it in the documentary, he cut
Speaker 3: out all of these like magazines and looked at models
Speaker 3: of what people thought that the inside of a B
Speaker 3: too Stealth bomber looked like. And they compiled all this
Speaker 3: information and then they recreated what they believed the inside
Speaker 3: of the B too Stealth bomber looked like. So then
Speaker 3: then when the Air Force came to visit the side
Speaker 3: of Doctor Strangelove and they watched the movie, they're like,
Speaker 3: what's that going on here? We said, no, that you
Speaker 3: couldn't see the inside of this BE too Stealth bomber,
Speaker 3: But yeah, you have what the inside of a B
Speaker 3: two stealth bomber looks like almost perfectly. So we believe
Speaker 3: that that was the inception of Qubricks starting to work
Speaker 3: with the government and these three letter organizations and the military.
Speaker 3: And then if you fast forward into two thousand and one,
Speaker 3: a Space Odyssey at the end of that movie, there
Speaker 3: was credits there that he was thinking all of these
Speaker 3: big corporations like lockeed Martin Air Force Intelligence, Langley Air
Speaker 3: Force Base, all these big military contractors and these three
Speaker 3: letter organizations, right, and that all those credits ended up
Speaker 3: getting cut out in the final run of the movie
Speaker 3: because I'm sure that one of these military people came
Speaker 3: to him and was like, Hey, you can't be thinking
Speaker 3: all of us in the credits of this movie, because
Speaker 3: then people are going to know that we're involved in
Speaker 3: with the production exactly. NASA. The cameras that he used
Speaker 3: for filming two thousand and one Space Honesty came from NASSA. Okay.
Speaker 3: So there's connections all over the place here between military organizations,
Speaker 3: three letter organizations, and direct ties with Stanley Kubrick. And
Speaker 3: we also show within the documentary how many other movies
Speaker 3: have been had production and has ties in the military
Speaker 3: industrial complex. Die another Day, the James Bond movies, Transformers movies,
Speaker 3: which all those came out way later than But what
Speaker 3: we didn't know about that until the four year request
Speaker 3: came back and then they got all that information. So
Speaker 3: now the cat is out of the bag that the
Speaker 3: Three Letter organizations in the military is involved with film production,
Speaker 3: and then that ties into the Laurel Canyon stuff. Okay,
Speaker 3: So Laurel Canyon, there was a military base called Lookout
Speaker 3: mount on top right outside of la on top of
Speaker 3: Laurel Canyon called Lookout Mountain Air Force Base. There's a
Speaker 3: huge facility. They had sound stages, they had movie sets.
Speaker 3: They that's where the miniature bomb, the nuclear bomb explosions
Speaker 3: all took place there. That was filmed on miniature sets, Okay,
Speaker 3: And there was thousands and thousands of films that were
Speaker 3: made there. And it's just a coincidence that this is
Speaker 3: right beside la where Hollywood is, where all these films
Speaker 3: are being made. Like, you got to be using mental
Speaker 3: gymnastics to not think that the military is involved and
Speaker 3: is making films to put out to the public. And
Speaker 3: also how much of the stuff that we think is
Speaker 3: actually real footage of real events happening were actually staged
Speaker 3: events film that Lookout Mountain because if they were doing
Speaker 3: this way back when, And Jared Leto now owns the
Speaker 3: Lookout Mountain Air Force Base, yeah, he just does thirty
Speaker 3: the Mars and the cult that Jared Leto is supposedly
Speaker 3: all involved with the white roagued cult is what they
Speaker 3: call it. And if they were doing it back then,
Speaker 3: and they were so involved in making films, right, and
Speaker 3: we don't know what all those films were because it's
Speaker 3: still all classified, we don't know what any of that was.
Speaker 3: So again, you'd have to be using mental gymnastics to
Speaker 3: think that they're still not doing that right. That brings
Speaker 3: in the question like all this stuff, it brings in,
Speaker 3: It brings nine to eleven into question. It brings in,
Speaker 3: like the JFK assassination, all of it into question. Because
Speaker 3: they can literally just film something on a military soundstage
Speaker 3: and then set off as something real in the public.
Speaker 3: They just got to put it everywhere, right, and now
Speaker 3: they don't necessarily that's evolved now they don't even have
Speaker 3: to use real people. Now they don't even have to
Speaker 3: film it. They can just use AI. And if anybody
Speaker 3: thinks that they don't, if they haven't perfected the technology
Speaker 3: of AI, the military hasn't perfect to where you legitimately
Speaker 3: cannot tell the difference between if it's real or if
Speaker 3: it's one hundred percent fake, just because we don't have
Speaker 3: that technology yet, then you're only kidding yourself right, hundred
Speaker 3: percent have it and they been using it for decades. Now.
Speaker 3: There's dual use for all of these things. There's dual use.
Speaker 3: There's the military use and then there's the public use.
Speaker 3: They figure it all out within the military how they
Speaker 3: can use it for their operations and what they're doing,
Speaker 3: and then later on they release it to the public.
Speaker 3: I mean, how long did we have drones? How long
Speaker 3: were military drones a thing before we got these little
Speaker 3: tiny public drones that people can use. Hey, they've been
Speaker 3: using drones or freaking decades, years and years and years,
Speaker 3: way before the public ever knew that the military had
Speaker 3: unmanned drones. So if you use that same logic with
Speaker 3: AI and with these soundstage military bases, then they're still
Speaker 3: doing the exact same thing today. It's like a it's
Speaker 3: like a mission of what they were doing before so
Speaker 3: that they can kind of come out and be like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: we stopped doing this. Is like the MK Ultra programs
Speaker 3: when they shut when they disclose it to the public
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty five. Right, they kind of had to
Speaker 3: do that so that the CIA would take the fall
Speaker 3: for it and take the bad rap while all the
Speaker 3: other all the other three letter organizations were also doing
Speaker 3: the exact same thing, but it gets all of those
Speaker 3: off of the hook. I mean, the Air Force has
Speaker 3: been running MK ultra programs almost since its inception, right.
Speaker 3: Walter Bosley, the AFOSI Special Air Force agent within our documentary,
Speaker 3: says that the Air Force he worked for the Air Force.
Speaker 3: He said that the Air Force, out of all of
Speaker 3: the military branches, was the most interested in MK ultra.
Speaker 3: So they're all doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it I mean I think that they're up
Speaker 2: to something else too with Lookout Mountain, because if you
Speaker 2: look at who had top secret clearance to get into
Speaker 2: that place, it's like Marilyn Monroe, Why the fuck does
Speaker 2: she have top secret anything to get in there? They're
Speaker 2: filming like what nuclear test footage? Why does Marilyn Monroe
Speaker 2: need to be up in there? I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: it's odd to me. And then I spoke with a woman.
Speaker 2: She's a doctor, she's a psychiatrist now, her name is
Speaker 2: doctor Juliet Angel, and she said that she was taken
Speaker 2: there as a child as part of these kind of
Speaker 2: like Kathy O'Brien like ritual sex abuse type of thing,
Speaker 2: and that she said that she went to Lookout Mountain
Speaker 2: Studio and that they were filming snuff films there, and
Speaker 2: she said that, like with one certainty, that that's like
Speaker 2: part of the things that they were doing there. And
Speaker 2: it just makes you wonder because of all of the ritualism,
Speaker 2: and we know that they they do have to traumatize
Speaker 2: you in order to get your mind in a certain place.
Speaker 2: I think if you look at Stanley's work, it's like
Speaker 2: sprinkled throughout it. I would say probably low Lita and
Speaker 2: eyes wide shut kind of our closer look at maybe
Speaker 2: some of the sexual side of things, but clockwork, orange
Speaker 2: and the shining are like the military side of things.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense, well, yeah, absolutely. But also with
Speaker 3: Stanley Kubrick. We were really nice to Stanley Kubrick. But
Speaker 3: after he died, one of his best friends came was
Speaker 3: only had one key to his office, right, he was
Speaker 3: the only other person that had a key to his office.
Speaker 3: So then he shows up at Kubrick's house, goes to
Speaker 3: open up his closet and whenever he rolls up to
Speaker 3: his house, there's these men in suits bet are there
Speaker 3: and they're going through all of Kubrick's stuff and they're
Speaker 3: taking a lot of his things out of his office. Okay,
Speaker 3: now who else had all the the almost that exact
Speaker 3: same thing happened to them like Diddy, Okay they place. Yeah,
Speaker 3: given he wasn't dead whenever they did it, he was
Speaker 3: still alive, but they raided his place. Epstein mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: What's the other what's the other filmmaker the filmmaker producer
Speaker 3: that got caught up in the me too movement?
Speaker 2: Then why? Uh what?
Speaker 3: Harvey Harvey Weinstein, Harvey West. So when you put two
Speaker 3: two together here, it's not looking too good for Kubrick.
Speaker 3: But also it could be that because he had to
Speaker 3: have known about Lookout Mound because he lived in LA
Speaker 3: during the time that Lookout Mound was in operation. And
Speaker 3: if you're a filmmaker, you're directing movies. He had a
Speaker 3: rich uncle that lived in LA so he moved to
Speaker 3: LA for like two or three years. He had to
Speaker 3: know about Lookout Mount. And if and if what you're
Speaker 3: saying is true that they were doing like snuff films
Speaker 3: and like really weird operation. But there's another thing too.
Speaker 3: It's like but like crisis actors as well. We know
Speaker 3: the crisis actors are one hundred percent of real thing. Okay,
Speaker 3: so Marilyn Monroe could have had a job up there
Speaker 3: to play different people that are essentially like because a
Speaker 3: lot of people look like Marilyn Monroe, right, A lot
Speaker 3: of these people look very similar to other people throughout it.
Speaker 3: They're just modernized and so. And not only that, like
Speaker 3: with people like Britney Spears, a lot of these people
Speaker 3: have body doubles. Okay, they have body doubles that are
Speaker 3: used for their music videos and famous musicians have them.
Speaker 3: Actors all have them, Actors have stump stump people body doubles,
Speaker 3: they all use them. So if you can get somebody
Speaker 3: that looks similar to somebody else, then they can be
Speaker 3: used as like a like an actor, and that's like
Speaker 3: the would be like the ultimate acting role. Right, Like,
Speaker 3: if you're if you're a famous actor and you're trying
Speaker 3: to take your acting to the pinnacle of where you
Speaker 3: want it to be, what would be the greatest acting achievement?
Speaker 3: The greatest acting achievement would be to completely impersonate somebody
Speaker 3: else in reality, make people believe that you are someone else. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that everybody is doing this, not saying
Speaker 3: that everybody is like somebody else, right, but throughout history,
Speaker 3: this has to have happened at some point, right, Someone
Speaker 3: definitely had the idea was like, okay, well what if
Speaker 3: we took you know, someone like Marilyn Monroe, and then
Speaker 3: we turn them and turn them into a completely different
Speaker 3: actor in reality and not give them the same name
Speaker 3: as Marilyn in Roe. Would people buy it? Would people
Speaker 3: believe that is a completely separate other person m And
Speaker 3: I believe that they would because they would have no
Speaker 3: reason to believe that it wasn't So do you have
Speaker 3: many different people in many different roles throughout history that
Speaker 3: is literally the same person?
Speaker 2: Like for me, sometimes I question if people really die
Speaker 2: in the way that they say, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: if Jim Morrison really died or if they just repurposed him,
Speaker 2: you know, or if Taylor Swift has been swapped out.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of talk about her. I
Speaker 2: don't know if Sharon Tate really died or if she's
Speaker 2: just playing a new character. I mean, sometimes I think sensationalism,
Speaker 2: especially coming out of the Laurel Canyon scene. I don't
Speaker 2: know that those weren't just all actors who got repurposed
Speaker 2: in some other unspecified capacity, because they are useful, why
Speaker 2: would you kill then you know it's.
Speaker 3: Not out of the ram of possibility. But then there's
Speaker 3: another possibility that people just randomly die too. I mean
Speaker 3: that definitely is a thing. But when you have parents
Speaker 3: that are high ranking military officials. Jim Morrison's dad was
Speaker 3: a high ranking naval intelligence officer that was responsible for
Speaker 3: the Golf of Tonkin incident to false fy Golf of
Speaker 3: Tonkin incident that got us into the Vietnam War. Sarance
Speaker 3: Tate dad was a high ranking military officer. Bob Marley's
Speaker 3: dad was a British naval commander. Like, all of these
Speaker 3: people have ties to military intelligence, so you can't put
Speaker 3: much past them and what they would do to get
Speaker 3: away with something. And it makes so much sense as
Speaker 3: to the reason why Jim Morrison was like so wild
Speaker 3: and like crazy and was kind of just doing whatever
Speaker 3: he wanted to do. He was actually an actor before
Speaker 3: he became like a musician and formed the Doors. Okay,
Speaker 3: several of these people. Tupac was an actor, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: people are actors and then they get into it's it's
Speaker 3: it's insanity, it's really insanity. But it makes sense with
Speaker 3: Jim Morrison, in the way that he acted. He acted
Speaker 3: like he could do whatever he wanted to do and
Speaker 3: that he wasn't going to get in trouble. And he
Speaker 3: never did get in trouble. Yeah, he got arrested a
Speaker 3: few times and maybe thrown in jail for a couple
Speaker 3: of days or maybe a week or whatever, but he
Speaker 3: was always let out. And the same with Charles Manson. Charles.
Speaker 3: How many times was Charles Manson andcars rated whenever he
Speaker 3: was growing up? How many psych wars did Charles Manson
Speaker 3: go into m and he was just immediately let out?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It makes you think kind of along those same lines,
Speaker 2: like with Program to Kill when Dave McGowan talks about
Speaker 2: how many times serial killers were caught, but they weren't caught.
Speaker 2: They were let back out, or they escaped or some
Speaker 2: in some way they got back out on the streets,
Speaker 2: and it just makes me wonder. I mean, a lot
Speaker 2: of this is just a big movie in and of itself.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're living in a movie, I think. But
Speaker 2: like with Lookout Mountain, laboratory is what it's called in
Speaker 2: Dave McGowan's book, I don't know why they called it
Speaker 2: a laboratory that I don't know why that's significant, but
Speaker 2: you compared it to Overlook Hotel because of how it
Speaker 2: looks in the name. So I thought that was really
Speaker 2: interesting and I had never considered that before. Did Stanley
Speaker 2: have anything to do with where they picked to film
Speaker 2: the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he sent a whole entire research team to try
Speaker 3: and scout location to film the movie, but he ultimately
Speaker 3: landed on just building a set. But the external shots
Speaker 3: of the hotel within the Shining is at the Lodge
Speaker 3: in Oregon right around where you are. Timberline Lodge is
Speaker 3: where the external shots of the hotel is filmed, which
Speaker 3: creates continuity errors within the Shining as well, because the
Speaker 3: exterior shots of the hotel is from the Timberline Lodge
Speaker 3: and the rest of the shots is on a set.
Speaker 3: So in the opening shot of the hotel, which I
Speaker 3: have some slides here that I'm going to show here
Speaker 3: a little bit later on, it goes over some of this,
Speaker 3: but I think it's important to mention now it creates
Speaker 3: a continuity hora because there's no maze in behind the
Speaker 3: hotel in that first establishing shot of the Overlook Hotel
Speaker 3: within the movie, but then later on there is a
Speaker 3: maze back there because they're filmed in two different there's
Speaker 3: also a ski what is it the ski line or whatever,
Speaker 3: that's going up the wet side of the mountain. Whenever
Speaker 3: Olmens says that there's no skiing up here, it creates
Speaker 3: these problems when he decided not to film it on
Speaker 3: an actual location, he found it on a set. But yeah,
Speaker 3: he again, I think that this goes back to him
Speaker 3: being aware of Lookout Mountain Air Force Base or Lookout
Speaker 3: Mountain laboratories and wanting to kind of design the same
Speaker 3: type of structure for the hotel in the Shiny. It's
Speaker 3: just a coincidence that is named almost the exact same thing.
Speaker 3: And like the military was running definitely running experiments that
Speaker 3: Lookout Mountain base, and you know, what are they doing
Speaker 3: within the Shining. It's a it's an experiment on the
Speaker 3: people within the Shining, it's an experiment on the audience,
Speaker 3: and it's an experimental movie in a hole. So it's
Speaker 3: like a triple whammy. You know, it's not only psychological
Speaker 3: within the person that's watching the movie. It's psychological to
Speaker 3: the actors within the movie as well. The giant psychological
Speaker 3: operation and and in the way that Kubrick is treating
Speaker 3: Shelley Duvall within the filming of is something that a handler,
Speaker 3: an MK ultra handler would do to a victim mm hm.
Speaker 3: And we see that within the documentary that Kubrick is
Speaker 3: like berating her. He's telling the the staff and the
Speaker 3: people that are working on the movie to not listen
Speaker 3: to her, to not you know, tend to her needs.
Speaker 2: Her hair was falling out, she was all fucked up.
Speaker 2: And then I think the scene with like the baseball bat,
Speaker 2: like as she's coming up the stairs, he made her
Speaker 2: do that like one hundred and twenty seven times or
Speaker 2: something like that, and her hands were raw and bleeding
Speaker 2: and she was exhausted, And I mean that is an
Speaker 2: MK to me, Like, that's that's MK.
Speaker 3: Like you.
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson, I think got off the hook. Other than
Speaker 2: the fact that he Stanley pretty much rewrote the script
Speaker 2: every day and everybody had to keep relearning everything. He
Speaker 2: was like writing the movie as he was going. But
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting that he picked that location because
Speaker 2: there is a hotel that the Shining the book is
Speaker 2: based on that you can go and stay at and
Speaker 2: visits in Colorado. I went and stayed there with my
Speaker 2: husband for Halloween one year. I mean, there's nothing special
Speaker 2: about it other than the fact that Stephen King used
Speaker 2: it as the inspiration for the book or whatever. But
Speaker 2: Stephen King hated everything about The Shining so much that
Speaker 2: he went back and made like a shitty like TV
Speaker 2: show called The Shining. I'm pretty sure, and it was
Speaker 2: an epic failure. But it's like Stanley purposely changed everything.
Speaker 2: He changed everything about the story and even the location,
Speaker 2: so everything was picked very specifically to his standard of
Speaker 2: what he was trying to do. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I thought that was when he showed the side by
Speaker 2: side of like Lookout Mountain and the Overlook and how
Speaker 2: the names are so similar, I was like, what the
Speaker 2: actual fuck, Like, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3: And why would you be writing a script as you're
Speaker 3: shooting a movie. Like nobody in their right mind would
Speaker 3: ever do that. It would never be greenlit like that
Speaker 3: unless you're, you know, doing it on your own, unless
Speaker 3: you're funding it yourself. Then you can do whatever you want,
Speaker 3: but no studio is gonna dish out money to make
Speaker 3: a movie where a script hasn't been written. And we
Speaker 3: believe that Kubrick turned in a script that was more
Speaker 3: aligned to Stephen King's novel okay, and then so that
Speaker 3: the movie would get approved because he just came off
Speaker 3: of a really bad movie, a really bad flop, which
Speaker 3: was Barry Lindon, Berry Linden and I Go Over Good.
Speaker 3: It lost some money. Warner Brothers was probably like, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's you know, let's take Let's do something that's gonna
Speaker 3: that's been proven to work, because they just had a
Speaker 3: big hit with the Exorcist and William freaking directing a
Speaker 3: novel and it was a really big movie for them,
Speaker 3: made them a lot of money. So they were like, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: here's this new book by Steven King, The Shining, Why
Speaker 3: don't you do a film adaptation of that. So then
Speaker 3: he wrote them a script that was more a keen
Speaker 3: to Stephen King's book. Then he decided to change it
Speaker 3: as they were filming it, which would be a complete
Speaker 3: and total nightmare. I could not imagine as a director
Speaker 3: having to rewrite something as you're filming it. It doesn't
Speaker 3: make any sense to do, like you're looking at a
Speaker 3: disaster of a movie, which toward the end of the movie,
Speaker 3: there was an original ending to The Shining that I
Speaker 3: was going to ask.
Speaker 2: You about that the alternative ending.
Speaker 3: So there was an alternative ending that doesn't that is
Speaker 3: not the same ending to the ending that we're familiar
Speaker 3: with with Jack. Just uh, he's out in the maze,
Speaker 3: he's kind of going catatonic or whatever, and then the
Speaker 3: next scene is you know, him dead, he's frozen in
Speaker 3: the ice, and then it zooms up to the picture
Speaker 3: on the wall. July fourth, nineteen twenty one. Right, so
Speaker 3: Cubic originally had another Indian in there. Where Windy wakes
Speaker 3: up in the hospital, Almand comes to visit and there's
Speaker 3: this is one hundred percent reel. The script is online,
Speaker 3: you can. We showed the script in the documentary, but
Speaker 3: that's all that we have of it. And Wendy waking
Speaker 3: up in the hospital, Almond coming to visit her in
Speaker 3: the hospital, Danny is there. Almond pretty much explains to
Speaker 3: her and is like, hey, we went up to the hotel.
Speaker 3: We checked it out. Nothing like what you said happened.
Speaker 3: We didn't find any evidence for okay, almost making it
Speaker 3: seem like that it's a one operation. They just went
Speaker 3: up there and clear and everything out right. They cleaned
Speaker 3: it all up and made it seem like that it
Speaker 3: didn't happen because Wendy has been traumatized to like no end.
Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, who's gonna believe this very traumatized woman.
Speaker 3: She's gonna mix things up in her mind and whatever.
Speaker 3: And then he meets Danny in the hallway and then
Speaker 3: throws Danny the tennis ball that Jack was bouncing off
Speaker 3: of the wall in the movie, and also is the
Speaker 3: tennis ball that rolled toward Danny while he's in the
Speaker 3: hallway before he goes in the room two thirty seven. Okay,
Speaker 3: and qubreak cut that section out of the movie. Now,
Speaker 3: there's a few people that do remember seeing it, because
Speaker 3: it did run in some of the test screenings in
Speaker 3: California and I believe in New York, so some very
Speaker 3: few people got to see the original ending to the Shining.
Speaker 3: It's one of the most infamous long lost pieces of
Speaker 3: film media ever. And Stanley Qubreic, he's, you know, famous
Speaker 3: for destroying all of his outtakes of movies, all of
Speaker 3: the footage that he didn't use any had deleted scenes
Speaker 3: or whatever, he just destroyed them.
Speaker 2: Why do you think he took that ending off though?
Speaker 2: Do you think it gave too much away? Like this
Speaker 2: was all in your mind.
Speaker 3: There was another scene that was also cut out that
Speaker 3: was Jack going into the boiler room in the basement
Speaker 3: and finding a scrap book of all the tragedies that
Speaker 3: happened at the Overlook Hotel, and that's how he knew
Speaker 3: who Grady was. So the remember whenever he's in the
Speaker 3: bathroom and talking to Grady and he was like, I
Speaker 3: know you, I have seen you around here someplace before.
Speaker 3: He's referring to the scrap book that he found in
Speaker 3: the basement and he's looking through all the photos and
Speaker 3: seeing the tragedy that all men talked to him about
Speaker 3: whenever he was there for the interview that a man
Speaker 3: named Charles Grady, but then later he's referred to as
Speaker 3: Delbert Grady, which we believe that there's two different Grady's
Speaker 3: running around, But he finds a scrap book and then
Speaker 3: that's how he knows. And that remnant of that scene
Speaker 3: being in there is prominent because we get that interaction
Speaker 3: with Grady and we don't know what Jack is talking
Speaker 3: about because the scene was cut it off. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so the end it definitely gave too much away because
Speaker 3: in our examination of the movie, it's an mk Ultra program,
Speaker 3: and this is setting up the fact that the entire
Speaker 3: thing is a giant operation. But they had all this
Speaker 3: stuff happen. They drug Jack with the alcohol that was
Speaker 3: spiked with LS or some concoction of drugs. He goes
Speaker 3: up in the room two thirty seven. He hallucinates the
Speaker 3: woman that's up there. It's either an actor or a woman.
Speaker 3: So you can if you think of the movie Shutter Island.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the movies where within the movie all
Speaker 3: of these people are like LARPing their roles within them
Speaker 3: to convince Leonardo DiCaprio's character that he's in like a
Speaker 3: mental institution.
Speaker 2: Unlike he's a detective, and yes.
Speaker 3: To ultimately trigger his memories of exactly what was going
Speaker 3: on for therapy purposes. Right, Well, that's essentially what's going
Speaker 3: on within the Shining. These people that are supposedly ghosts
Speaker 3: are not really ghosts. That's why they're not prominently portrayed
Speaker 3: as ghost like with Stephen Kings of version of the
Speaker 3: Horrible TV series that he did, or like in Stephen
Speaker 3: King's novel where things are all like mystical and like
Speaker 3: swing sets are haunted. There's a haunted bush outside the
Speaker 3: turns in, the monsters and all this wacky, weirdo paranormal garbage,
Speaker 3: which is one garbage. Kubric decided to make the most
Speaker 3: realistic version of this, so he made actual people playing
Speaker 3: these roles within the movie. So Grady is a person.
Speaker 3: Whenever Jack goes into the the Gold Room and all
Speaker 3: the people are there having a party, all those people
Speaker 3: are real people. Within the movie. There are real people.
Speaker 3: They're actors LARPing this situation to convince Jack to murder
Speaker 3: and kill his family. That's what it's all about. And
Speaker 3: then whenever Jack goes in there and takes the drink
Speaker 3: of alcohol, whenever Amens said that there's no alcohol in
Speaker 3: the premise, they remove all the alcohol. Then he goes
Speaker 3: in and talks to Lloyd the bartender, and Lloyd the
Speaker 3: bartender poison a glass. It's laced with LSD. It's laced
Speaker 3: with some kind of drug. And then Windy comes in
Speaker 3: and says that Danny was attacked by a lady upstairs,
Speaker 3: which was probably a real lady right in the in
Speaker 3: the building that's in that's a part of this operation.
Speaker 3: I mean, the hotel is freaking huge. He probably really
Speaker 3: was attacked by a lady because he stumbled across the
Speaker 3: room that one of these agents, one of these CIA
Speaker 3: agents was actually in, which then correlates to the end
Speaker 3: of the movie whenever the bear and the man, the
Speaker 3: bear is giving the blowjob to the man and no
Speaker 3: one understands us seeing no one really knows exactly what's
Speaker 3: going on other than all the other teddy bear symbolism,
Speaker 3: which teddy bear symbolism is linked to pedophilia, right, which,
Speaker 3: and then you have Lolita mm hmmm, which is all
Speaker 3: about pedophilia very much. So those two people were actors
Speaker 3: within the movie playing other actors LARPing to try and
Speaker 3: get Jack to kill his family, okay, and whenever Whindy
Speaker 3: stumbles across them, they think that the operation is like
Speaker 3: over right, they're on their freaking lunch break here.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah. But you only see it through his perspective though,
Speaker 2: which is why it's such a mind fuck, And that's
Speaker 2: why at the end of the movie you're.
Speaker 3: Like, what did I just even watch?
Speaker 2: Like what happened? Like what is going on here? Because
Speaker 2: it's meant to show you his journey but also take
Speaker 2: you on it too, So like by the end of
Speaker 2: the movie you're like, why do I feel like I
Speaker 2: just got mkid like it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, because there's so many continuity errs within the movie,
Speaker 3: which is to psychologically mess with the viewer's mind of
Speaker 3: exactly what's going on in the movie. Because if you
Speaker 3: just watch this for the first time, like try and
Speaker 3: go back to the very first time that you ever
Speaker 3: watched the movie, did you know about any of these
Speaker 3: continuity years.
Speaker 2: I had absolutely no idea.
Speaker 3: But it still messed with your mind subconsciously. And Kubrick
Speaker 3: was very interested in subconscious manipulation. He was actually very
Speaker 3: interested in advertising, like cigarette company. We know that the
Speaker 3: companies put like little flashes of images within their movie
Speaker 3: to subconsciously get the viewer to think something else, to
Speaker 3: buy more products. What's just the very simple version of it.
Speaker 3: That's like the surface layer of it. But Kubrick was
Speaker 3: very interested in that. And then at the end of
Speaker 3: our movie, during the credits, he also talks about that.
Speaker 3: He said, well, it's interesting to me whenever I make
Speaker 3: a movie for the audience to think, oh, well, was
Speaker 3: that on purpose or was that a mistake? All right,
Speaker 3: so he wants to mess with the audience, which makes
Speaker 3: you believe that all of these continuity ors, and everything
Speaker 3: that's wrong with the movie was one done on purpose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see some of these continuity ters. I
Speaker 2: actually had it in my notes to ask you about
Speaker 2: that because I feel like I caught one. But maybe
Speaker 2: it's in your slides. If it's not, then I'll be surprised.
Speaker 3: Okay, can you see it? Yes? Okay, all right, this
Speaker 3: is a clockwork shining. And some of these are in
Speaker 3: the movie. Some of them are not in the movie
Speaker 3: because if we just focused on all these, it would
Speaker 3: be the movie would have to be like four hours long,
Speaker 3: and it was almost two hours long, so it was
Speaker 3: already kind of rough. Okay. So the first one, which
Speaker 3: is in the movie is this handprint on whenever Jack
Speaker 3: is at the bar, he gets up, this lady walks past.
Speaker 3: She's actually the one that bumps into Grady to have
Speaker 3: him spill the alcoholic drink on Jack's shirt. Okay, and
Speaker 3: it looks like that she has a a handprint like
Speaker 3: on her ass. Right, it looks like a four fingered handprint.
Speaker 3: And people have contested this. They're like, oh, well, it's
Speaker 3: a part of the dress. It's baked into the drus. Well,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if it's baked into the dress, it
Speaker 3: still looks like a freaking bloody handprint. I think that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that they think that. I'm saying that someone
Speaker 3: literally covered their handpaint hand in red paint and then
Speaker 3: put it on her ass. That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that whatever is on the back of her
Speaker 3: dress looks like a freaking handprint. It sure does. And
Speaker 3: if you think of what this kind of relates to,
Speaker 3: which then you get into Castaway with Tom Hanks. Right,
Speaker 3: you have a four fingered bloody handprint on Wilson the volleyball.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, all right, so that's the like prove and
Speaker 3: show that you know, the four fingered handprints do exist.
Speaker 3: It's on Wilson.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Granted this movie came out in two thousand, uh you know,
Speaker 3: two decades after the Shining, but still.
Speaker 2: It's like a thing.
Speaker 3: Then when you connect the stuff about Tom Hanks, okay
Speaker 3: and uh Stanley Cube break, you can put two and
Speaker 3: two together on your own. There. So this one is
Speaker 3: one of the ones that we showed in the documentary,
Speaker 3: which is a light switch disappearing whenever blinking on his
Speaker 3: name right now, Colin, Yes, whenever Hollerin is giving them
Speaker 3: a tour of the hotel. Windy and Danny. There's a
Speaker 3: light switch that's above the storage room. Whenever Windy is
Speaker 3: carrying Jack's body to put him inside the storage room,
Speaker 3: the light switch is gone. Here's another light switch that
Speaker 3: is disappearing and reappearing.
Speaker 2: This is whatever one is so crazy, like, why where
Speaker 2: did it go?
Speaker 3: Yep in, Yeah, it's wild. So this is the top
Speaker 3: frame of this. The top panel is whenever Jack is
Speaker 3: walking into Almend's office to do the interview in the
Speaker 3: beginning of the movie, there's not a light switch. And
Speaker 3: then when Jack is walking back into Almond's office later
Speaker 3: on to destroy the radio to prevent Wendy and Danny
Speaker 3: from leaving the hotel, there appear as a light switch
Speaker 3: underneath the picture framet. This is the maze that I
Speaker 3: was talking about earlier. In the establishing shot, there's not
Speaker 3: a maze, and then later on, obviously there is a
Speaker 3: maze behind it. This one's interesting. The pattern on Jack's
Speaker 3: tie during the interview looks like the identical pattern to
Speaker 3: the over.
Speaker 2: Establishing Oh my god, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: This one is the dwarfs sticker disappearing off of Danny's door,
Speaker 3: So whenever Danny has the visions, there's a adope the
Speaker 3: dwarf sticker on the outside of his door. And then
Speaker 3: whenever the doctor comes to visit Danny and check on him,
Speaker 3: the adope the dwarf sticker is missing. This one is
Speaker 3: when Wendy is telling the doctor about how this one's
Speaker 3: a dialogue error. So whenever Wendy is telling the doctor
Speaker 3: how long it was that Danny was having these episodes
Speaker 3: between the time that he abused Danny doesn't add up
Speaker 3: to the same amount of time that Jack said to
Speaker 3: Lloyd the bartender of how long it was, Jack says
Speaker 3: that it was two years ago, so whenever he abused
Speaker 3: Danny and injured his arm, which then made Danny, like
Speaker 3: through trauma, start having these quote unquote psychic abilities, because
Speaker 3: that's how the psychic abilities are developed. They're developed through trauma.
Speaker 3: And that was one of the things through that they
Speaker 3: discovered through the mk Ultra programs is that that.
Speaker 2: Is a.
Speaker 3: Uh like a byproduct of trauma and putting people through
Speaker 3: these programs is that it unlocks abilities within the person
Speaker 3: that you're traumatizing. This was the kool aid that's on
Speaker 3: top of the fridge, which you know, drink the kool aid.
Speaker 3: You got the the Jim Jones incident that was happened
Speaker 3: during the filming of this movie, which is the Jim
Speaker 3: Jones wasn't actual kool aid though, but it came synonymous
Speaker 3: with kool aid. I think it was flavory, the Flavory
Speaker 3: Aid and the Jim Jones cult drinking, yes, dying of
Speaker 3: but the ins and has becomes synonymous with This one's interesting.
Speaker 3: This is a clear plastic tarp that is seen on
Speaker 3: the set as Danny is driving his tricycle through the hotel.
Speaker 3: This one is a chair that disappears, a chair and
Speaker 3: a coffee table that disappears. Behind Jack. Windy is talking
Speaker 3: to him about the sandwich. I'll make you a sandwich,
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh, well, when I'm in here, you
Speaker 3: know that I'm working and you don't bother me when
Speaker 3: I'm working. The first shot has a chair and behind
Speaker 3: it it cuts to Windy the chair. When it goes
Speaker 3: back to Jack, the chair and the coffee table is gone.
Speaker 3: It cuts back to Windy and then in this bottom
Speaker 3: right hand corner panel, when it cuts back to Jack,
Speaker 3: the chair and the table is back into the shop.
Speaker 2: What do you think the significance is, because like this,
Speaker 2: it's when you look at it like this, it's like
Speaker 2: blatantly obvious, and you wonder why you haven't noticed it before.
Speaker 3: You'd think that you would really notice this. And how
Speaker 3: many people had to check this before it ever was released,
Speaker 3: Like how many editors and how many production design sud
Speaker 3: designer people did he how many eyes did this stuff
Speaker 3: pass through before it was ever published? Right? This is
Speaker 3: a really really obvious one that because it's there, it
Speaker 3: disappears and then it reappears again. This is one of
Speaker 3: the first ones that I noticed. This one is whenever
Speaker 3: Olman is talking to Jack it doesn't make sense. He
Speaker 3: says that the hotel is shut down from a certain
Speaker 3: period of time to another period of time, which then
Speaker 3: does correlate with how many months Jack and his family
Speaker 3: will actually be staying at the hotel, which is another
Speaker 3: dialogue air. This one is Almon. This is one that
Speaker 3: Jay Widner has pointed out several times. It's also in
Speaker 3: our movie. It's also in Room two thirty seven as well.
Speaker 3: It's whenever Jack goes to meet Almonds and shake his hand.
Speaker 3: The paper tray on the desk makes it look like
Speaker 3: Almond has a heart on This one is another interesting
Speaker 3: one that Jay Widner has pointed out that the Teddy
Speaker 3: Bear in the background with the fire truck in the
Speaker 3: background shot of Danni and Wendy before Windy goes down
Speaker 3: to confront Jack and she finds out that he's not
Speaker 3: actually writing a novel, and he's just writing the same
Speaker 3: phrase over and over again, which is psychic driving, psyche driving.
Speaker 3: That's exactly you what they did with Sir Hans, Sir Ham.
Speaker 3: If you look at his notebooks, it says RFK must
Speaker 3: die or f G must die over and over and
Speaker 3: over again. It's the same type of psychic driving programming
Speaker 3: that they're doing to Jack within the Shining, They're just
Speaker 3: having him write the same sentence over and over and
Speaker 3: over again. And then when Windy comes down and discovers
Speaker 3: that he's not actually writing a novel, he's just writing
Speaker 3: the same sentence, he then gets triggered and tries to
Speaker 3: you know, kill her, to commit violence against her. But
Speaker 3: also this is where Windy picks up the baseball bat.
Speaker 3: They see the baseball bat that's right beside the teddy Bear.
Speaker 3: He gets the baseball bat. So but the baseball bat
Speaker 3: changes from where it is in the shots so earlier
Speaker 3: in the movie. Well, there's a whenever the doctor comes
Speaker 3: to visit Danny in the movie, there's a cartoon character
Speaker 3: that is holding a baseball bat in the background here
Speaker 3: on this curtain, and then also goofy figure. This is
Speaker 3: obviously goofy, but people have pointed out that this goofy
Speaker 3: person is dressed exactly like Wendy. Wendy, Yeah, okay. So
Speaker 3: then whenever Jack goes to look at the maze, remember
Speaker 3: that the really famous scene, whenever he goes to look
Speaker 3: at the model of the maze, and then the shot
Speaker 3: feeds into the shot of Wendy and Danny outside in
Speaker 3: the maze. It's one of the most perfect shots of
Speaker 3: the entire movie. But there's the baseball bat is sitting
Speaker 3: on the couch downstairs right beside the model of the mates,
Speaker 3: and then it appears later on right beside the teddy
Speaker 3: bear in the fire truck upstairs in their apartment. Then
Speaker 3: that's where she picks up the baseball bat off of
Speaker 3: the couch upstairs in the apartment that she strikes Jack
Speaker 3: in the head with. This one's interesting. This is a
Speaker 3: door that This is all in the same shot. So
Speaker 3: for people that's just listening, I'm showing photos of what's
Speaker 3: going on here, Like the actual photos give you a
Speaker 3: good description, but I'm gonna explain it because it's important
Speaker 3: for you to hear. So this is whenever Danny is
Speaker 3: rolling up to room two thirty seven for the first time,
Speaker 3: there's a door in this right hand corner panel that's shut,
Speaker 3: and then it then it cuts to the door of
Speaker 3: room two thirty seven, and then when it cuts back
Speaker 3: to Danny, the door that same door is now open.
Speaker 3: The carpus switches patterns when Danny is playing with the
Speaker 3: ball and the ball rolls toward Danny, and then the
Speaker 3: next establishing shot the carpet is different, which people have
Speaker 3: said that they just moved him over one hexagonal carpet pattern,
Speaker 3: which would make sense, but why would you do that? Right?
Speaker 3: This is the teddy bear stuff is like setting up
Speaker 3: a lot of the teddy bear symbolism. There's also a
Speaker 3: painting of two Teddy bears within the shining, a lot
Speaker 3: of the artwork on the walls within the overlook, there's
Speaker 3: teddy bear symbolism. And then in the beginning of the movie,
Speaker 3: when the doctor is visiting Danny and Wendy in their
Speaker 3: apartment in Boulder. Danny is laying on a Teddy Bear.
Speaker 3: In this bottom quarter panel is what we were just
Speaker 3: talking about a few minutes ago. When Wendy is traumatized
Speaker 3: by seeing haller and dead on the ground. She then
Speaker 3: goes upstairs and she sees this man and the other
Speaker 3: man in the Teddy Beer costume supposedly blowing this student's suit.
Speaker 3: Tang is spotted next to other kool Aid bottles. Tang
Speaker 3: was a very important drink for astronauts during the Apollo missions.
Speaker 3: They said that this was the only type of drink
Speaker 3: that they could use because of like some kind of
Speaker 3: gravity thing or whatever, so they had to they had
Speaker 3: to use the Tang mixh.
Speaker 2: So this is like another clue.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's another clue. And the Tang is what became
Speaker 3: super popular after this, after it became the official drink
Speaker 3: for the astronauts.
Speaker 2: Right next to the MK kool Aid.
Speaker 3: Yep, man, that's got.
Speaker 2: To be on purpose. That is so crazy.
Speaker 3: This one is more about the moon landing. Jay Widener
Speaker 3: has talked about this several times. It's in his Cuber's
Speaker 3: Odyssey one and two. Movies that Danny is wearing the
Speaker 3: Apollo eleven shirt. He stands up with the carpet potter
Speaker 3: and the hexagonal carporate pattern which looks like the launch
Speaker 3: pad to Apollo eleven. He then goes in the room
Speaker 3: two thirty seven. The room was switched to two seventeen
Speaker 3: in Stephen King's novel, and Cubri changed it the room
Speaker 3: two thirty seven and two thirty seven was the amount
Speaker 3: of miles that people thought that the moon was away
Speaker 3: from Earth. Definitely on purpose. This this is the Shining
Speaker 3: Toy Story reference. They got the same carpet and that
Speaker 3: they have the Shining carpet in toy story that they
Speaker 3: have in the Shining and which your toy story is
Speaker 3: about a fake astronaut. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And Tom Tom Hanks heeado, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yep, Tom Hanks is Woody. Just a coincidence. Tom Hanks
Speaker 3: is playing a character named Woody.
Speaker 2: Right, and the Wilson ball I'm telling you that that
Speaker 2: stuff is definitely not an accident.
Speaker 3: And then that print being like a that type of
Speaker 3: print is like synonymous for like pedophilias.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3: It's one of the CIA's one of the things that
Speaker 3: they said is like a not a trigger, but like
Speaker 3: a symbolic thing to let people know about pedophilia.
Speaker 2: Right, Is it like a moniker?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: So wild.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the next one is a TV not being
Speaker 3: plugged into anything. Several TVs throughout the movie are not
Speaker 3: being shown to be plugged into any outlet TV. No
Speaker 3: power source to any of these TVs. Okay, so what
Speaker 3: are they watching? This is an mk ultra program. This
Speaker 3: would be exactly like what Qubrick would put in here
Speaker 3: if he did fake the moon landing footage, and that
Speaker 3: was because it would be like people are watching nothing
Speaker 3: on their TVs because it's a pre planned, pre filmed
Speaker 3: mm hmm, that's what I think anyway.
Speaker 2: It almost makes me wonder if he didn't like put
Speaker 2: whatever they're watching on like after like post, you know,
Speaker 2: like whatever. They're just staring at blank screens, and then
Speaker 2: he chose like this specific scene or this specific talk
Speaker 2: show for them to be watching. Do you think that
Speaker 2: that's significant at all? Like what he chose for them
Speaker 2: to be watching.
Speaker 3: Some people have found a significance in the movie that's
Speaker 3: being played appearing. I think that this is a cooking
Speaker 3: show down here in the bottom. But this top movie
Speaker 3: that they're watching here in the top panel is I
Speaker 3: believe the Summer of sixty nine. I think some people
Speaker 3: have put some connections to together for it. This one
Speaker 3: is the differences and names of Charles Grady and Delbert Grady.
Speaker 3: So Allman says that his name is Charles Grady, and
Speaker 3: then Charles Grady refers to himself as Delbert Grady the Jack. Okay,
Speaker 3: So there's not only like connuity errors between like the
Speaker 3: like things appearing, disappearing, things being there and then reappearing then,
Speaker 3: but there's all so a lot of dialogue. There's as well,
Speaker 3: which I think, uh pass over a lot of people's heads.
Speaker 2: Well, actually, in that last one, this one right here,
Speaker 2: I have in my notes and I just wanted to
Speaker 2: get your your thoughts on it because the main guy,
Speaker 2: the manager guy, he says that there was a caretaker
Speaker 2: who had a girl one was eight and one was ten,
Speaker 2: and that he hacked him up with an axe. But
Speaker 2: when they're shown they're clearly twins, not one being eight
Speaker 2: and one being ten. So I just wanted to get
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that too, because I felt like that
Speaker 2: was another like why would you mention that one was
Speaker 2: eight and one was ten. But then when you show
Speaker 2: them they're identical twins, and then you have like that
Speaker 2: monarch poster in the background on the first siding of
Speaker 2: the twins and stuff, It's like, what really, why put
Speaker 2: that in and then show twins? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we were going to put together in
Speaker 3: the We had to cut a few things out because one,
Speaker 3: we didn't want this movie to be super ridiculously long.
Speaker 3: I don't know if people have ever edited a almost
Speaker 3: two hour long movie. It becomes a.
Speaker 2: Pain daunting, Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Daunting, Like there's times I just wanted to bang my
Speaker 3: head up against the freaking war, I'm sure. But we
Speaker 3: had a whole section in there that ended up getting
Speaker 3: acts because Almond does say that they were eight and ten, right,
Speaker 3: And we had a whole section that was about the
Speaker 3: experimentations that the Nazis were doing on twins, and we
Speaker 3: were going to connect a bunch of things to the
Speaker 3: twins within the movie. But then we felt like that
Speaker 3: people had come at us because they would say, well,
Speaker 3: they're not really twins, and then that would just discount
Speaker 3: the entire you know, ten minutes that we had on
Speaker 3: all the twins stuff.
Speaker 2: But they were twins like that, Like you could tell
Speaker 2: that's what he was going for.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, it is odd, it is really odd.
Speaker 3: It was it was Hitler's right hand man, blinking.
Speaker 2: On his name right now, But he was Mangola.
Speaker 3: Joseph Manglo. Yes, Joseph Mangola was responsible for a lot
Speaker 3: of the early mind control operations that Nazi Germany was doing,
Speaker 3: and he was doing a lot of experimentation on twins.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there also like a Project Gem and I or
Speaker 2: something like that too, That kind of like went along
Speaker 2: with Monarch because when the first siding, when Danny sees
Speaker 2: the first of the twins, it's like the twins standing there,
Speaker 2: identical dress, everything, and then in the background is like
Speaker 2: the Monarch poster on the wall, and it almost makes
Speaker 2: you think, like Jim and I twins Monarch, Like there's
Speaker 2: so much going on just in that one little flash
Speaker 2: of a scene, and if you're not paying attention, you'd
Speaker 2: never know.
Speaker 3: But then Olman, when he's talking.
Speaker 2: About Grady or whatever, he says that they were just
Speaker 2: sisters eight and ten. So Stanley Kuber definitely is trying
Speaker 2: to say something with just visual work of the of
Speaker 2: the twins too, in my opinion at least, and not
Speaker 2: only don't there's two of them that makes eleven there's
Speaker 2: eleven symbolism? All oh right, right, yeah, yeah, I remember
Speaker 2: you mentioning that all the doors.
Speaker 3: Are double doors elevens. You have the candle orders in
Speaker 3: the like around the hotel that looked like eleven's, the
Speaker 3: lights hanging from the walls looked like there's just eleven
Speaker 3: twin type symbolism throughout the entire movie. And then when
Speaker 3: you think of, okay, well, why is all this like
Speaker 3: point eleven stuff in there? Then if you look at
Speaker 3: like this might be a stretch. But some people believe
Speaker 3: that Hubert didn't actually die, that he like faked his
Speaker 3: us so that he could work for the intelligence world
Speaker 3: and the military as like a deep black budget filmmaker. Wow, okay,
Speaker 3: so damn what better person could you think of to
Speaker 3: completely fake something that probably faked something before with the
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty nine moon landing footage. Did you do something
Speaker 3: like that with nine to eleven?
Speaker 2: Damn? Man, Stanley Kubrick is one of the deepest Pandora's box.
Speaker 2: I mean, that is just why I mean, I feel
Speaker 2: like not the entire story is being told with eyes
Speaker 2: white shut and then him dying shortly afterwards. Was he repurposed?
Speaker 2: I think that could be very likely, because maybe they
Speaker 2: were mad at him for whatever that he was trying
Speaker 2: to say with Iye white shut? Were they mad enough
Speaker 2: at him to kill him? I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: think he'd died of a heart attack, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They don't normally.
Speaker 2: Kill asense, right, That's what I'm saying. It's like, so
Speaker 2: what he made this movie Eyes Wide Shot? Like, did
Speaker 2: you do you really think it was so bad that
Speaker 2: they should that they would have killed him?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, And then there's also the
Speaker 3: thought and their idea that he could have had a
Speaker 3: heart attack. But it is really suspicious how soon it
Speaker 3: was after he showed as Wide Shot to the producers
Speaker 3: and the actors, they had like a private screening, and
Speaker 3: then like six days later he's dead. It's pretty right.
Speaker 3: Then they supposedly recut the film. Mm hmmm mm hm.
Speaker 3: The only people that would be able to know if
Speaker 3: that wasn't the original film that they saw would be
Speaker 3: like Nicole Kidman, Tom Cruise and the.
Speaker 2: Executives and their scientologists slash a oltists. They're definitely not
Speaker 2: gonna say anything, right, but you know, okay, so.
Speaker 3: That's even if they would remember, because you know how
Speaker 3: like you're just watch a movie one time there is
Speaker 3: there for a party or whatever. I would like to
Speaker 3: talk to I would like to talk to Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3: I would definitely talk to Tom Cruise. There's a footage
Speaker 3: of him of Tom Cruise being interviewed about Stanley Kubrick
Speaker 3: and he's like crying, Wow, there's weird. There's weird stuff
Speaker 3: about Tom Cruise and Stanley Kubrick as well. Apparently, whenever
Speaker 3: Kubrick was filming Eyes White Shot, the movie went on
Speaker 3: for way longer or it was ever intended, like Tom
Speaker 3: Cruise had to turn down several projects just to continue
Speaker 3: to work with Stanley Kubrick on Eyes White Shot. But
Speaker 3: reportedly there was a day of filming that Kubrick made
Speaker 3: Tom Cruise put on a dress and come out on
Speaker 3: set to be berated by everybody. What literally, But then
Speaker 3: when you get into the all the dress stuff, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, God, good actors that are you know,
Speaker 3: made to wear dresses?
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred is the dress ritual?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: The humiliation and the Okay, okay, let me get your
Speaker 2: thoughts on this, because I want to kind of tie
Speaker 2: it in with this scene here when Jack goes for
Speaker 2: the interview. This was definitely in your documentary. Almond mentions
Speaker 2: the people in Denver several times, but we don't know
Speaker 2: who the fuck he's talking about. They'd never specify who
Speaker 2: who are the people in Denver? And I find it
Speaker 2: interesting that he filmed Eyes Wide Shut in Colorado. I
Speaker 2: believe it was near Denver. And then Dave McGowan wrote
Speaker 2: all this stuff about how when the Wonderland pedophilia raids
Speaker 2: broke through, a lot of people had pictures of John
Speaker 2: Benet Ramsey like on, like naked pictures of her and
Speaker 2: weird stuff like that, and she was from Colorado as well,
Speaker 2: so and in Program to Kill he mentions how there
Speaker 2: are these elitist people Eyes Wide Shutters, living in Colorado, Denver,
Speaker 2: Boulder area, that they're all involved in this stuff. And
Speaker 2: I find it interesting that the Shining Eyes Wide Shut,
Speaker 2: the Wonderland raids, the Eyes Wide Shut parties and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, we're all are all kind of connected. And
Speaker 2: there's like the weird pageant queen that dies in eyes
Speaker 2: wide shut and Jaban A. Ramsey was like a little
Speaker 2: pageant queen or whatever. But it's almost like he's he.
Speaker 2: Everything is so layered with like ritualism. I guess you
Speaker 2: would say, like, what actually is going on with this stuff?
Speaker 3: Well, Colorado has been known to be heavily intelligence, like
Speaker 3: especially Denver. I'm pretty sure Denver has a CIA headquarters
Speaker 3: m currently, and a lot of colts come out of Colorado.
Speaker 3: All of Stephen King's novels is basically based out of Colorado. Colorado.
Speaker 2: To me, it's like they're telling you without telling you,
Speaker 2: but I just wanted to.
Speaker 3: It's supposedly supposed to be set up as like the
Speaker 3: New World Order headquarters. That's where That's why everybody wants
Speaker 3: to go to Colorado. That's why they love. Why everybody
Speaker 3: in California is like, go to Colorado. That's why all
Speaker 3: the colorado Ons are pissed off at Whenever people come
Speaker 3: in and they have a California idea or they have
Speaker 3: California tags on their car, They're like, what, get the
Speaker 3: fuck out of here. But everybody, everybody looks that lives
Speaker 3: and has been born and raised in California. Look at
Speaker 3: Colorado as California. Like other people that's not born in
Speaker 3: California look at California. Mm hmmm, well that are born
Speaker 3: in other states, they look at like California as like
Speaker 3: the I'm not everyone, but most people look at California
Speaker 3: as like the pinnacle, like that's where you want to live.
Speaker 3: Well in California look at Colorado as the pinnacle, like
Speaker 3: I've I lived in Colorado for around three years and
Speaker 3: then I moved back to California. So I had lived
Speaker 3: in California for about five years, moved to Colorado, lived
Speaker 3: there for about three and then moved back to California.
Speaker 3: And then when a new city in a new area
Speaker 3: more north than where I was in southern California before,
Speaker 3: and whenever people ask me like, oh, well, where are
Speaker 3: you from? And I normally just say, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: from Call. Because I just recently moved back to California,
Speaker 3: I normally don't say all I'm lived in California before
Speaker 3: and I'm just back here again, and because we just
Speaker 3: recently came from Call, Colorado, And then they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: why did you decide to move to California. Wouldn't have
Speaker 3: done that? So they look at like, I would never
Speaker 3: have left Colorado. So it's like they all look at
Speaker 3: Colorado as like this great, amazing right that is going
Speaker 3: to be set up as like the essentially New World
Speaker 3: Order headquarters. So people have been talking about for a
Speaker 3: really long time that they moved everything to Colorado.
Speaker 2: I would agree with you with that because it's like
Speaker 2: after the Laurel Canyon stuff and like all the weirdness
Speaker 2: came up out of California, it did seem to kind
Speaker 2: of shift over. And then it was like in the
Speaker 2: nineties with like the Wonderland raids and stuff like what
Speaker 2: David McGowan was writing about. All that stuff was coming
Speaker 2: up out of Colorado. So those two places are like
Speaker 2: the the centers for a lot of this.
Speaker 3: And think about it. Colorado is landlocked, Okay, the coasts
Speaker 3: aren't safe states to be in. If if another country attacks,
Speaker 3: then they're going to hit the coast. They're not going
Speaker 3: to be able to hit the freaking center of the
Speaker 3: United States, right, Yeah, they're going to come on boats.
Speaker 3: Then they're gonna hit one of the coasts. They're going
Speaker 3: to be the coast for the West Coast, so Washington, Oregon, California, Florida, Oregon, Florida, uh,
Speaker 3: North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia. Right, that's where the attacks
Speaker 3: are going to come from. So they used to be
Speaker 3: more on like the East coast was like their hide
Speaker 3: out in their you know, where they planned all of
Speaker 3: their operations, unlike the east, like northeast. But I think
Speaker 3: that they have switched it and they have just gone
Speaker 3: to the pretty much the Midwest. They're right in the center,
Speaker 3: because that would also say from you'd be safe from
Speaker 3: any kind of cataclysm, like if there was a giant tsunami,
Speaker 3: you'd be safe in Colorado. There's there's actually a CIA document.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've read it. It's called the
Speaker 3: it's called Adam and Eve. It's called the Adam and
Speaker 3: Eve Story, and it's a document that talks about that
Speaker 3: there is going to be a giant cataclysm that's going
Speaker 3: to come this basically going to eradicate the entire population.
Speaker 3: They don't know when it's going to be, but when
Speaker 3: it happens, the only place in North America that you
Speaker 3: could go to survive it is the Rocky Mountains.
Speaker 2: Really yep, oh, okay, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, so they're predicting like John Cusack twenty twelve movie,
Speaker 2: but like in real life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there, it's a legitimate, legitimate it's the IA documents
Speaker 3: on the CIA website. I think it's called this is
Speaker 3: trying to pop this up on my other screen here,
Speaker 3: but it's called the Adam and Eve. Let me get
Speaker 3: out of this. We'll come back to that in a minute. Okay,
Speaker 3: let me google real quick, Adam and Eve, the AA
Speaker 3: docy Adam and Eve story. Yep, this is it.
Speaker 2: And what a name to how cryptic?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I want to get rid of this. Okay.
Speaker 3: So Adam and Eves Story by Chan Thomas. It's a
Speaker 3: declassified CIA document on the CIA website. It's a pretty
Speaker 3: long document. There's a lot of pages to it. There's
Speaker 3: fifty seven pages. But it gives you like a timeline
Speaker 3: of like all of the great supposed catastrophes in the
Speaker 3: past and then that we are going to experience a
Speaker 3: here's the contents, the next cataclysm, the great flood, the story,
Speaker 3: the event, genesis, and the conclusion. It's very fascinating. Wow,
Speaker 3: does that Noah's Flood happened six thousand and five hundred
Speaker 3: years ago? There was another flood like Adam and Eve's
Speaker 3: flood that happened eleventh and five hundred years ago. So
Speaker 3: it seems like it's kind of working in like five
Speaker 3: thousand to six thousand year cycles, right, So.
Speaker 2: We're it's like we're due for one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck, let me see, Okay. So within three hours
Speaker 3: of the fantastic wall of water moves across the continent,
Speaker 3: burying wind, ravage land under two miles of seething water
Speaker 3: coast to coast in the all vicinities of civilizations are gone.
Speaker 3: The great cities Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Donallas, New
Speaker 3: York are nothing but legends. Barely a stone is left
Speaker 3: for millions walk just a few hours before a few
Speaker 3: lucky ones who managed to find shelter from the screaming
Speaker 3: wind and lee landslide of Pike's Peak, which the sea
Speaker 3: is molten fire, break through the quaking valleys below. The
Speaker 3: raging waters flow, appealing higher and higher, streaming over the
Speaker 3: moulten earth fire and rising almost to their feet. Only
Speaker 3: great mountains such as this can withstand the cataclysmic onslaught.
Speaker 3: The North America is not alone in her death throws.
Speaker 3: Central America suffers the same concaid wind, earth and fire.
Speaker 3: South America finds the andes not high enough to stop
Speaker 3: the cataclysmic violence pounded out by the nature of her
Speaker 3: berserk Rage. In less than a day, Alsavador, Peru and
Speaker 3: Western Brazil are shaken madly by the devastating earthquake, burned
Speaker 3: by molten earthfire, buried under a two big miles of
Speaker 3: Pacific seas and turned into a frozen hell. Everything freezes, man, beast, plant, mud,
Speaker 3: all rock hard in less than four hours. They're talking
Speaker 3: about a very big, giant cataclysm that within the matter
Speaker 3: of hours everything is just completely destroyed Western Africa, Siberia.
Speaker 3: The earth is left unfrozen in the entire Eastern Asian continent,
Speaker 3: most of which remains below sea level east of the
Speaker 3: Royals in Western Siberia. A few lucky people survive the
Speaker 3: fantastic winds and quakes. Antarctica and Greenland, with their ice
Speaker 3: caps now rotate around the Earth into the tory Roid zone.
Speaker 3: The Fury of the Winding Foundation match for six days
Speaker 3: and nights. Six days and knights. This is supposed to
Speaker 3: go on. During the sixth day, the ocean starts to
Speaker 3: settle and the new homes running off of high grounds.
Speaker 3: The seventh day, horrendous rampages over the Arctic ice is
Speaker 3: ended and a new stone age begins. So this is
Speaker 3: basically a let's make reset that is predicted in the future. Okay,
Speaker 3: so have deep layer existing over the Great Plains and
Speaker 3: exposed in the Grand Canyon, painted desert and bad lands.
Speaker 3: The Bay of the Basin in the east of India
Speaker 3: is now the North Pole. So this is like a
Speaker 3: big like a tectonic plate shift, like a huge thing
Speaker 3: that kicks off these big natural disasters. I'm just trying
Speaker 3: to find where it says the safe places to be where.
Speaker 3: But it was like the Rocky mountains and then like
Speaker 3: the part of the mountains and the springs like Colorado Springs. Wow,
Speaker 3: but it's in this document. I don't want to waste
Speaker 3: too much time on it. But that's just a part
Speaker 3: of the whole thing. They I think that they believe
Speaker 3: that Colorado is going to be like a safe haven
Speaker 3: for not only cataclysmic disaster, but they can set up
Speaker 3: their operations here as well. That's horrific. Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: recommend looking at that document that Adam and you story.
Speaker 2: Are you scared?
Speaker 3: No, because I don't think it's going to be for
Speaker 3: a really long time.
Speaker 2: I think, like really, like if you had if you
Speaker 2: had a ballpark it are we going to old or
Speaker 2: are we gonna be young enough to suffer?
Speaker 3: I think I'll be way dead and gone by the
Speaker 3: time anything, really, but I might be back. I mean,
Speaker 3: if reincarnation's real, we're probably all going to be, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean if I'm like in a nursing
Speaker 2: home and I have Alzheimer's, who cares, right, But if
Speaker 2: it's gonna be in like ten years, twenty years, that's
Speaker 2: gonna suck. I don't want to be in the apocalypse.
Speaker 3: No, it won't be Okay, This next one is a
Speaker 3: really crazy connuity are that a lot of people don't
Speaker 3: even catch. I didn't even catch this one. This one's
Speaker 3: really important though. Okay. So, when Hollerin is giving a
Speaker 3: tour to the UH to Danny and Wendy, the first
Speaker 3: door that he opens before the storage room is the
Speaker 3: freezer room. Right. He opens the freezer and he says,
Speaker 3: this is the freezer room. This is where we keep
Speaker 3: the He asks Danny if he likes pork or something
Speaker 3: like that, or chicken and uh. When he opens the door,
Speaker 3: you can see on this top quarter panel on the left,
Speaker 3: the handle is on the right side of the door. Okay,
Speaker 3: and they enter into the freezer room. This is the
Speaker 3: next quarter panel at the bottom of the screen is
Speaker 3: when they exit the freezer room. The handle to the
Speaker 3: door is on the opposite side of the freezer room door.
Speaker 3: And the background is a completely different background.
Speaker 5: Dude, that's not even the same location. And we never noticed,
Speaker 5: never noticed. Why that is a fucking mind blower.
Speaker 3: And what's really interesting about this one is that people
Speaker 3: will claim that he just shot it from the other side. No,
Speaker 3: but even if you shot it from the other side,
Speaker 3: that doesn't change the side that of the.
Speaker 6: Door handle, right, Oh my god, Yep, that's not even
Speaker 6: the same room.
Speaker 3: Nope, completely different room. Whenever they walk in, it has
Speaker 3: the kitchen in the background. Whenever they walk out, it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's a completely different thing. You have these
Speaker 3: dishes and these these utensils and everything. Whenever they first
Speaker 3: go in, you can see the background of the kitchen.
Speaker 3: You can see the ventilation system that's above the stove there.
Speaker 3: You have a chalkboard in the background. When they walk out,
Speaker 3: the whole background is different. There's these two double wide doors,
Speaker 3: which is the oven doors here the eleven symbolism of
Speaker 3: the door. You have like some kind of switchboard here
Speaker 3: on the right, the chalk board is completely gone. You
Speaker 3: have to You have a fire alarm and then a
Speaker 3: fire alarm bell above it, and two windows. But why
Speaker 3: it rider?
Speaker 2: If Stanley is a perfectionist, which we know that he was,
Speaker 2: why did he do this?
Speaker 3: I believe that he did this to make the viewer
Speaker 3: start to question their reality subconsciously, unknowingly, just lag Jack
Speaker 3: is starting to question his reality within the movie. So
Speaker 3: you feel like that you're going down this downward spiral,
Speaker 3: and you don't really know why you're going down this
Speaker 3: downward spiral because it's a subconscious layering to the movie.
Speaker 2: But that's that transcendence I was talking about. Every time
Speaker 2: I watch it, that's how I feel.
Speaker 3: So it's affecting your subconscious mind to get you on
Speaker 3: the same page as Jack as he's going through his
Speaker 3: delusions and essentially going crazy by the CIA operation to
Speaker 3: try and get him to kill his family. But you
Speaker 3: don't know why because you don't pick up these things
Speaker 3: on the first view or even through the twentieth of view,
Speaker 3: maybe even the fiftieth view. You're not going to see
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff, okay, but you get an uneasy.
Speaker 7: Feeling when you're definitely and that is the reason why,
Speaker 7: because he's subconsciously training your mind to go to take
Speaker 7: this journey.
Speaker 3: Along with the characters in the movie.
Speaker 2: Wow, and that and there's the proof right there.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's too much. It is insanity. So this
Speaker 3: is the Beatles Connections to abbey Road. The top photo
Speaker 3: is of the Beatles Abbey Road album cover and this
Speaker 3: is Almond, Wendy Jack, and Bill Watson, which was Allman's assistant,
Speaker 3: which we didn't really get too much into Bill Watson
Speaker 3: in the documentary. We had a lot more things on
Speaker 3: Bill Watson. We might end up doing a like a
Speaker 3: director's cut of this movie and including a lot more
Speaker 3: stuff in it. But we had this whole section on
Speaker 3: Bill Watson and how we related him to Sydney Gottlieb,
Speaker 3: which was head of the MK Ultra programs. They even
Speaker 3: look similar, but it was difficult to do because very
Speaker 3: few photos exist of Sydney Gottlieb out there, but they
Speaker 3: looked strikingly similar. And then the Beatle, this white beetle
Speaker 3: that's in the background of the Abbey Road photo. So
Speaker 3: in Stephen King's novel, the beetle is a red beetle,
Speaker 3: but the beatle that the Volkswagen beetle that Jack drives
Speaker 3: in the shining is a yellow beetle. And then when
Speaker 3: Allman is driving up to the Overlook hotel whenever he
Speaker 3: flies in from Florida, which is another really strange I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a connuity error or a dialogue
Speaker 3: era story or writing error. But if you remember when
Speaker 3: Hallerin is lean in the hotel room in Florida for
Speaker 3: his vacation, the news said that the weather is so
Speaker 3: bad that all flights had been canceled, but somehow he
Speaker 3: got a flight into.
Speaker 2: Called oh shit, I never caught that, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: So then whenever he's trying to the overlook, there's the
Speaker 3: red Volkswagen beetle that had been crushed underneath a semi
Speaker 3: which many have described this as being a stab at
Speaker 3: Stephen King by Stanley Kubrick, like, you know, this is
Speaker 3: this is him showing him that you know, you didn't
Speaker 3: write this. I wrote this. I'm the man. You might
Speaker 3: be a good author, you might sell millions of copies
Speaker 3: of your books. But I'm a filmmaker and this is
Speaker 3: a film, and I'm going to do what I want
Speaker 3: with this film.
Speaker 2: It's like a like a fuck you.
Speaker 3: Yep. Wow, that is so crazy. So you got the
Speaker 3: bele yet Stephen King's beetle being changed from a red
Speaker 3: budle to a yellow beetle. You have the beatle in
Speaker 3: the background of the Abbey Road photo. Then you have
Speaker 3: them looking like that they are and this is John
Speaker 3: Lennon's uh beatle in the background. Really yep. And then
Speaker 3: you have them looking like this doing the exact same
Speaker 3: walk as the Abbey Road photo. And Stephen King was
Speaker 3: inspired the name the book The Shining based off of
Speaker 3: a John Lennon song, Instant Karma.
Speaker 2: What you didn't put that in the documentary, did you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that is Oh, you gotta do
Speaker 2: a director's cut. This stuff is too good. That is wild.
Speaker 3: We all shine on? Uh huh? How the song Instant
Speaker 3: Karma goes? And Stephen King got that inspiration to call
Speaker 3: the novel The Shining based off of that John Lennon song.
Speaker 2: And was it the original script like that they gave
Speaker 2: or like Kubrick, was they basically said hey, you're gonna
Speaker 2: make this movie because he turned down The Exorcist, and
Speaker 2: they were like, well, you're gonna do this one. And
Speaker 2: it was called The Shine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was the original because Warner Brothers got
Speaker 3: a pre published copy of The Shining and it was
Speaker 3: titled The Shine. That was the original title for Stephen
Speaker 3: King's novel. And when we and we show that in
Speaker 3: the movie, the the pre published copy is The Shining
Speaker 3: by Stephen King. Okay, so then he changed it to
Speaker 3: The Shining. Okay, so that's all the Beatles. The Beatles
Speaker 3: thing is insane. But I don't know if I have
Speaker 3: the slide in here or not. I'm I don't think
Speaker 3: that I do, which is a shame. But shit, I
Speaker 3: can't believe I didn't put this one in here.
Speaker 2: Is it a Beatles thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Beatles thing. So Kubrick was asked to
Speaker 3: direct J. R. R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings movie,
Speaker 3: and this was supposed to be like the Beatles were
Speaker 3: going to be all the Hobbits. What yeah, oh stop it.
Speaker 3: So ultimately Stanley Kubrick turned it down because he said
Speaker 3: that the technology wasn't right at the time. They didn't
Speaker 3: have the technology to do it, and then it you
Speaker 3: know later on. Peter Jackson then picked it up and
Speaker 3: directed the Lord of the Rings movie, but Stanley Kubrick
Speaker 3: was in talks with the Beatles and with J. R.
Speaker 3: Tolkien to direct the Lord of the Rings movies with
Speaker 3: the Beatles acting as the Hobbits and the Lord of
Speaker 3: the Rings movies.
Speaker 2: So Laurel Canyon meets Tavis Stock and they fucking have
Speaker 2: a Lord of the Rings baby. Oh my god. Can
Speaker 2: you imagine right or what that would have been like?
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. I don't know where that slide is. I
Speaker 3: think it's in here somewhere. But that's what this slide
Speaker 3: is about, is Kubrick was being, uh, it's in here somewhere.
Speaker 3: I don't know where it is.
Speaker 2: But can you imagine even what The Exorcist would have
Speaker 2: been like if it was a Kubrick film. I mean,
Speaker 2: I love The Exorcist as it is. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think freakin nailed it, crushed it. It's going to be
Speaker 2: an eternal movie. But I do wonder what it would
Speaker 2: have been like as a Kubrick film because his mind
Speaker 2: just works so differently.
Speaker 3: It probably would not have gone over well because he
Speaker 3: would have made it very practical and not be supernaturally. Yeah,
Speaker 3: freaking dead with it because Kubrick didn't believe in the paranormal.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's an interview with Stephen King talking
Speaker 3: about how Cubric would call him up like three am
Speaker 3: or like in the morning and be like, hey, do
Speaker 3: you believe in God?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Can you imagine? No wonder? Stephen King
Speaker 2: was like, fuck this guy, I'm making my own movie.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, poor Stephen King.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's uh, that's just super interesting to me.
Speaker 3: All the Beatles stuff and all the connections.
Speaker 2: Oh wild, Then you have.
Speaker 3: Let me get to this other side. Okay. So this
Speaker 3: is pretty much the smoking gun of our entire synopsis
Speaker 3: of the movie At Clockwork Shining is that Windy in
Speaker 3: the beginning of the movie is reading a book by
Speaker 3: an intelligence officer named J. D. Salinger. What's is called
Speaker 3: Catcher in the Riot and the Catcher in the Rye
Speaker 3: has been linked to two major assassinations John Lennon, which
Speaker 3: gets into the Beatles stuff. This was it, this happened.
Speaker 3: Stephen King had this novel in his movie a year
Speaker 3: before both of these assassinations happened. So John Lennon hadn't
Speaker 3: been assassinated yet, neither had the attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3: Those are the two assassinations that Catcher in the Rye
Speaker 3: was reportedly on the scene with. Okay, so Mark David
Speaker 3: Chapman was found on the scene of ah after he
Speaker 3: shot John Lennon. That and he was reading the book.
Speaker 3: He was sitting on the curb waiting for the police
Speaker 3: to arrive, reading the book Catcher in the Rye. And
Speaker 3: then there's a and in his the vent. He stood
Speaker 3: up and said, if you want to know the reason
Speaker 3: why I did it, then all you have to do
Speaker 3: is read the book The Catcher in the Rye. And
Speaker 3: then when as a psychiatrist visited him in prison, he
Speaker 3: was still reading the book like two years later. This
Speaker 3: book has been synonymous with researchers talking about how the
Speaker 3: Catcher in the Rye book by intelligence officer JD. Salinger,
Speaker 3: is a trigger mechanism for MK ultra assassin. Whindy is
Speaker 3: reading it in the shiny So how did Stanley Kubrick
Speaker 3: know to put this book in this movie a year
Speaker 3: before both of these assassinations would happen, where both of
Speaker 3: the assailants was reading The Catcher in the Rack.
Speaker 2: I want to say it's because he's CIA. I don't
Speaker 2: think he was a prophet or anything like that. And
Speaker 2: he had some kind of psychic ability. I think he
Speaker 2: was in upper echelon type shit and they were cluing
Speaker 2: him into some stuff. In my opinion, I mean, it
Speaker 2: makes sense, right, makes sense.
Speaker 3: This is like the again, this is a smoking gun
Speaker 3: that we connect to the entire assassination and him being
Speaker 3: programmed to like Jack within the movie, being programmed. And
Speaker 3: Jack is a writer too. I mean, that's exactly what
Speaker 3: he says to Amend in the beginning of the movie
Speaker 3: that he would love to be up here because then
Speaker 3: you can focus on his novel. He's a right right,
Speaker 3: Catcher in the Right was required reading in school.
Speaker 2: And out of all the books, you know, like in this,
Speaker 2: in this this scene right here, it's and as we
Speaker 2: talked about before, Stanley is a perfectionist. He does everything
Speaker 2: on purpose. So out of all those books back there
Speaker 2: that if it was just to be random that they
Speaker 2: could have chosen, it's it has to be this one.
Speaker 2: And even like what she's wearing. And I mean I've
Speaker 2: I've heard a couple of presentations on how they think
Speaker 2: that there are little Catcher in the Rye clues in
Speaker 2: the wardrobe and other stuff throughout the shining that that
Speaker 2: go back to the Catcher in the Rye but definitely
Speaker 2: on purpose one hundred.
Speaker 3: Then you have John Hinckley Junior that was the attempt
Speaker 3: at assassination on Ronald Reagan, that was had the same
Speaker 3: thing on this person. He had the Catcher in the
Speaker 3: Rye look. And both of these assassinations, the one assassination
Speaker 3: on John Lennon by Mark David Chapman and then the
Speaker 3: John Hinckley at terms of assassination on Ronald Reagan both
Speaker 3: had this book. So it's been discussed for a really
Speaker 3: long time. To Catcher in the Rye is a mk
Speaker 3: ultra Manchurian candidate style trigger for assassins. And that's an
Speaker 3: abysmal book. It doesn't make any sense. The book is awful.
Speaker 3: It's a garbage book.
Speaker 2: But it's garbage for real garbage.
Speaker 3: But like it's like an in cell book almost, right,
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of like what the main character of
Speaker 3: the story is. He's basically like an insul, right, which
Speaker 3: which is what we would you know, call people that
Speaker 3: you know, don't have any kind of social life, that
Speaker 3: don't think that they're accepted by society. That they're in
Speaker 3: there just you know, in their mom's basement or whatever,
Speaker 3: playing video games all day. And it's just a coincidence
Speaker 3: that this was required reading in public schools for really
Speaker 3: long time. And then we get an explosion of the
Speaker 3: exact same type of character within this book in real life.
Speaker 3: And there's so much of that throughout Stanley Kubrick's movies,
Speaker 3: just like we mentioned Lolita earlier, the whole movie is
Speaker 3: about pedophilia and how this girl is being essayed by
Speaker 3: this older man. Okay, exactly what was happening to Sue Lyon,
Speaker 3: the actor that's playing Lolita was happening to her in
Speaker 3: real life by Kubrick's producer, Hey James Harris. Yes, James
Speaker 3: Harris was doing to her what she was portraying while
Speaker 3: shooting the movie about what was actually happening to her.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so crazy too.
Speaker 3: It's a mind fuck and a mind fuck. And not
Speaker 3: only that, like with a clockwork Orange as well, that
Speaker 3: same type of thing happened in like England and the
Speaker 3: like in the UK and stuff like whenever that movie
Speaker 3: got released, we showed a bunch of newspaper clips of
Speaker 3: like what was going on. Then whenever that movie got released,
Speaker 3: like Crime Gone through the Roof, Like there was these
Speaker 3: gangs that formed in like the UK and the like
Speaker 3: England and stuff. They were called like the Clockwork Gangs.
Speaker 3: There was like Clockwork murders. And then the point that
Speaker 3: Stanley Kubrick had to take the movie out of theaters,
Speaker 3: you stopped really going in the UK.
Speaker 2: Clockwork Orange, Yes, I didn't know that. Have you heard
Speaker 2: that the author of Clockwork Orange was inspired by Stanley
Speaker 2: to write it?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I listened to a few interviews from him and
Speaker 3: his relationship with Stanley Kubrick, and he said that after
Speaker 3: the movie was made that kubric never talked to him again. Really, yeah,
Speaker 3: that You're trying to reach out to Cubriaic several times
Speaker 3: and Kubert didn't have anything to do with him after that. Wow.
Speaker 3: So interesting. It is super fascinating. All right, let's get
Speaker 3: to this. This is a really weird continuity.
Speaker 2: Er.
Speaker 3: So, whenever Wendy and Danny is trying to escape from
Speaker 3: Johnick after he busts down the first door, he says, Wendy,
Speaker 3: I'm home. Whenever Wendy and Danny's a trying to escape
Speaker 3: into the bathroom, the light on the table beside the
Speaker 3: door is crooked. But in the very next scene when
Speaker 3: I walks in the light shade the lampshade. This one
Speaker 3: is really wild. This one's almost like the one with
Speaker 3: Hallerin and the a completely the different background. So whenever
Speaker 3: Jack tries to bust down the bathroom door, he sticks
Speaker 3: his head through and says, here's Johnny whatever. Then whenever
Speaker 3: he turns around and he hears hollering's SnowCat pulling up
Speaker 3: to the hotel, and he kind of alerted and he's like,
Speaker 3: what is that? And he turns around, both of the
Speaker 3: quarter panels of the door to the bathroom have been
Speaker 3: knocked out. He never knocked out the love side of
Speaker 3: the quarter panel, right, but it makes it look like
Speaker 3: an eleven. It does. There's your eleven again.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy.
Speaker 3: Step. So you literally only see him break the right
Speaker 3: hand quarter panel of the door. That's the only one
Speaker 3: that he put his axe through. Then whenever the shot
Speaker 3: turns around, he hears and then you see the background
Speaker 3: that both quarter panels have been knocked out. Symbolism man
Speaker 3: it has to be. Okay, And here is the other
Speaker 3: smoking gun that we've mentioned already. But the first time
Speaker 3: that Danny encounters anything strange in the hotel is when
Speaker 3: he's in the games room and he sees the twins
Speaker 3: and then to the leve of the double doors, and
Speaker 3: now they're eleven here. So you got the double doors,
Speaker 3: and behind the two girls that are making an eleven,
Speaker 3: there's a poster to the left of the door that
Speaker 3: says Monarch. And several people have seen this before I
Speaker 3: seen it, okay, so I'm not claiming that I'm the
Speaker 3: only person to have ever seen this. Other people have
Speaker 3: seen it, but they've misinterpreted what it means. They think
Speaker 3: that it's like referring to like Monarch Mountain, or like
Speaker 3: the Kubrick stare that all of them do in the
Speaker 3: Kubrick's movies, like full metal jacket, like a clockwork orange
Speaker 3: and like the shining they do that. You know, he's
Speaker 3: doing it in this the photo for a pair of
Speaker 3: clockwork shining and he's doing that downward stare because they
Speaker 3: think that this thing back here is either a sky's
Speaker 3: skiing or maybe it looks like a menotaur or whatever.
Speaker 3: But they never related the Monarch poster to MK Ultra Monarch.
Speaker 2: That's the first thing I thought of, is monarch mind control.
Speaker 3: But again.
Speaker 2: I think it wouldn't make sense unless you understood that's
Speaker 2: what the whole movie is about, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: this is just another clue.
Speaker 3: It's another clue. And he could have put any poster
Speaker 3: there that could have been anything, right, but he chose
Speaker 3: to put a Monarch poster in the background with a.
Speaker 2: Guy with like a lantern over his face. It's like,
Speaker 2: it's almost like, I don't know. To me, it's just
Speaker 2: there's just too much there for that to be a coincidence.
Speaker 3: And then we have County O'Brien, of course that's in
Speaker 3: the documentary that you know, talks about her experiences in
Speaker 3: the MK Ultra Monarch program at a white House Pentagon level.
Speaker 3: So he's telling us within the movie with this poster
Speaker 3: that the thing is about mind control, so giant mind
Speaker 3: control operation. And then this has been discovered before. This
Speaker 3: is the Hitler mustache. That is when the picture fades
Speaker 3: to a close up picture of July nineteen ninety and
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty one July fourth, it fades into a close
Speaker 3: up picture and then you can see like a little
Speaker 3: Hitler mustache beginning of Jack space here. And this is
Speaker 3: the one that is a really big deal. Whenever they
Speaker 3: go through the Gold Room, whenever Almon is giving them
Speaker 3: a tour, after they're walking outside with the they're doing
Speaker 3: the Beatles walk, they walk inside, they have they're walking
Speaker 3: through the Gold Room. Now, the only way that I've
Speaker 3: seen this was because I got to see the shining
Speaker 3: on a big like in the theater where I was
Speaker 3: living before we started filming this movie. They did a
Speaker 3: Shining replay in theaters for Halloween. Wow.
Speaker 2: I would have loved to went to one of those, so.
Speaker 3: I got to see it on the big screen. I
Speaker 3: would never have seen this if I didn't watch it
Speaker 3: on a big screen because it's so in the background
Speaker 3: that you're gonna pass it every single time. Okay, So
Speaker 3: in the background of when they're walking through the Gold Room,
Speaker 3: if you look between Holman and Wendy, there's a a
Speaker 3: swastika that's no doubt put into the back of the wall,
Speaker 3: like faded into the into the back of the wall.
Speaker 3: And when I seen this, I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 3: I just see what I thought that I seen.
Speaker 2: Right, you had to do double take, triple take, like,
Speaker 2: what the hell was that?
Speaker 3: And then as I was editing the well, then I
Speaker 3: because I had it on my phone too, And then
Speaker 3: after we watched it in the theater, I was like,
Speaker 3: I gotta zoom in on this and see if it's real. Now,
Speaker 3: to my knowledge, no one has ever seen this before
Speaker 3: until I brought it up. Now people will claim that
Speaker 3: other people have seen this, but.
Speaker 2: Not to my recollection. And I, I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: I said, before I watched Jay Widner's Kubrick's Odyssey, I
Speaker 2: never saw it brought up there. I mean, I would
Speaker 2: consider myself to be pretty pretty proficient researcher into Kubrick's stuff,
Speaker 2: and I've never seen that. So yeah, I was surprised
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: So that's uh. And that connects to the Hitler mustache,
Speaker 3: connects to the Marmic, connects to the Twins, It connects
Speaker 3: to mk Ultra, connects to mind control. You know, he's
Speaker 3: trying to tell people that it's a giant MK Ultra
Speaker 3: mind control program. It's uh, you know, that's what's going
Speaker 3: on here. And he's showing me for symbolism, he's trying
Speaker 3: to tell you he has the TVs that are not
Speaker 3: playing any things, not plugged into anything. It's it's mind control.
Speaker 3: He's programming Jack to kill and murder his family. He's
Speaker 3: been unknowingly drugged with an array of drugs. He goes
Speaker 3: up and he he sees the woman turning, the very
Speaker 3: attractive woman turned into an elderly woman. He then goes
Speaker 3: up into his apartment and when he asked him, what
Speaker 3: did you see anything? You see anything over there? He says,
Speaker 3: I didn't see a goddamn thing, right.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: All of it adds up whenever you watch the movie,
Speaker 3: because the movie goes in there're a lot more details
Speaker 3: than what I've gone through here. But I think we've
Speaker 3: done a really good job. And some of the things
Speaker 3: aren't that I showed in the slides aren't actually in
Speaker 3: the movie, but a lot of them are. And I
Speaker 3: just recommend for people to watch the movie that you
Speaker 3: can help support my work and help me create my
Speaker 3: new documentary that I'm getting ready to start on.
Speaker 2: You want to give us any teasers about the new documentary.
Speaker 3: Yes, that is going to be on the government's psychic
Speaker 3: spy program.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, that's going to be amazing. I So if
Speaker 2: you ever did do like a director's cut of a
Speaker 2: clockwork shining. I'd be very interested to see what that
Speaker 2: would look like, because I feel that you, much like myself,
Speaker 2: are very invested into this topic, and it's it's just
Speaker 2: like never ending. After you find one thing, it leads
Speaker 2: into another thing, into another thing, and you could go
Speaker 2: on and on about it. So but for the listeners,
Speaker 2: one more time, where can they find a clockwork shining?
Speaker 2: If they want to watch it?
Speaker 3: Oh? Really quickly, what was your thing that you found?
Speaker 3: Was it in the slides?
Speaker 2: It was, well, it was about the eight and ten
Speaker 2: years old, and how he portrays them to be twins
Speaker 2: and not an eight and a ten like two separate individuals,
Speaker 2: but more as twins. And I thought, you know, if
Speaker 2: he was going to visually give us twins, why did
Speaker 2: he have the hotel manager make that distinction that one
Speaker 2: was eight one was ten, Like he left that part
Speaker 2: in there, but he showed us twins. So again, Stanley
Speaker 2: Kubrick is a perfectionist. If he did that, it had
Speaker 2: to have been on purpose.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, it's really odd,
Speaker 3: really strange, and I think that we probably will do
Speaker 3: some kind of director's cut on this in a few years,
Speaker 3: or we'll do some kind of other maybe a Clockwork Shining.
Speaker 2: Too, that would be a cool one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we will see. But if people would like to
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Speaker 3: much for having me on. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been super generous with your time. It's been
Speaker 2: over two hours. I'm really appreciative of that because I
Speaker 2: feel like we covered a lot of ground and I
Speaker 2: asked pretty much all the questions I had for you,
Speaker 2: So I would love to have you back on. We
Speaker 2: can cover something different. We did Virginia Giuffrey on the
Speaker 2: Occult Rejects and that was another mind blower. So I
Speaker 2: know you're doing some good work over there. I hope
Speaker 2: the listeners go and find you. But thanks so much
Speaker 2: for joining me this evening.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. It was delightful and thanks for
Speaker 3: your time as well. Appreciate it. Let's do it again
Speaker 3: sometime soon, anytime, anytime you want.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Thanks so much, and to all the listeners out there,
Speaker 2: thank you, and we will catch you on the next one.
Speaker 3: I said, I'm not gonna hurt you. I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2: Bash your brains.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bash right the fuck in