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<v Speaker 1>Oh trigger warn This podcast may include explicit content that

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<v Speaker 1>will take you out of your comfort zone and make

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<v Speaker 1>you question reality. Listeners dis question is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everyone, you know what it is. It's Cosmic

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<v Speaker 2>Peach Podcast and I have a very special guest lined

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<v Speaker 2>up for you today. I have recently worked with him

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<v Speaker 2>on The Occult Rejects, so you may have already heard

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<v Speaker 2>that episode, but it's Rider Lee. How are you. What's

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<v Speaker 2>going on?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great, Julia, Thanks for having.

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<v Speaker 2>Me on Really Eazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm glad you like my movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you watched it, yeah, I've watched it a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times actually, So it is available on Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>Prime and is it anywhere else? That's where I've been

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<v Speaker 2>watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can get it on Apple TV Plus and

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<v Speaker 3>you can also get it on to b Now, so

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<v Speaker 3>you got a few options there. I think that it

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<v Speaker 3>was released in the UK also on Amazon Prime, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like a worldwide thing. So now that it's

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<v Speaker 3>out on to b more countries that people live in

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<v Speaker 3>can now watch it if you can get the TV apps.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, two Amazon Prime and Apple TV Plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I love it obviously. I actually watched

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<v Speaker 2>the first two keyword to see that was Jay Widner.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I saw this one, my husband Colby

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<v Speaker 2>actually I think has spoke to you about it from

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<v Speaker 2>Kenspiracy Playtime. We watched it together and yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 2>both huge fans of it right away. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to have you on ask you my own questions about it,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot to dive into there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I really first want to open up by saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a huge Kubrick fan, obviously, as you can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of tell from my background, But what what is he

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<v Speaker 2>to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a mad genius? Or is he like a

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy or a good guy, or like where who

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<v Speaker 2>is he to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I've always been a fan of filmmaking. I'm certified centiphile.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when I grew up, like I would just throw

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<v Speaker 3>on a movie. It was like kind of my escapism

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<v Speaker 3>from you know, reality, and I always admired really good

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<v Speaker 3>filmmaking and Qubreak is definitely considered one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>filmmakers of all time, and just his cinematic style. No

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<v Speaker 3>one really does that anymore, right, It's all like jump cuts.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always don't let the shot hang on anybody for

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<v Speaker 3>too long, which is not the way that it's you're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to tell a story through filmmaking, supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>a story. You don't have to give everything away in

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<v Speaker 3>the exposition of the film, which is a mistake that

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of modern movies make. Now. They don't tell

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<v Speaker 3>the story through the actual They don't let the camera

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<v Speaker 3>tell the story. They let the characters within the story

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<v Speaker 3>tell the story. That's a really big mistake. Now there

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<v Speaker 3>are a few directors nowadays that you kind of, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>lean in that direction more. They're starting to, mostly with

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<v Speaker 3>horror movies. It's kind of they're starting to not give

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<v Speaker 3>things away within the actual movie and let the audience

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<v Speaker 3>put two and two together. And that's what Cubreak is,

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<v Speaker 3>basically what the Shining is. It's the audience having to

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<v Speaker 3>put two and two together to create their own theory

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<v Speaker 3>of what's going on. And at the end of our movie,

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<v Speaker 3>at Clockwork Shining Kubric's Odyssey three, we have that audio

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<v Speaker 3>clip of Cubriic talking. I don't know if you listen

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<v Speaker 3>all the way to the end during the credits, but

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<v Speaker 3>he talks about the reason why he doesn't do very

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<v Speaker 3>many interviews is because he doesn't want to tell the

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<v Speaker 3>audience what the movie is actually about. He wants the

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<v Speaker 3>audience to figure out what the movie means to them, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a really big deal within filmmaking because again,

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<v Speaker 3>now it's not about that anymore. Now it's just giving

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<v Speaker 3>away the end. Though, like Long Legs, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if you watch Long Legs with Nicholas Cage right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on my list. I haven't watched it yet, though

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<v Speaker 2>it is good, well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really good up until about the end when they

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<v Speaker 3>They don't give you anything because you're trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out, right, And that's what the movie is supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to do. You're supposed to figure things out as a

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<v Speaker 3>by the end you've realized what's going on. But they

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<v Speaker 3>don't do that anymore. It's more of an it's an

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<v Speaker 3>attention span thing because people don't have the attention to

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<v Speaker 3>sit down and watching an hour and forty five minute movie.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to be playing on their phone or doing whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I'm watching a movie, it's like nothing else

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<v Speaker 3>is going on and paying one hundred percent focus to

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<v Speaker 3>the movie. But in the movie Long Legs, they go

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<v Speaker 3>through an hour and thirty minutes of this movie and

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<v Speaker 3>then at the end, right like right before it's getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready to end, they explain everything that happened throughout the movie,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just ruins them the right. Yeah, when the

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<v Speaker 3>audience could have they could have added a few more

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<v Speaker 3>scenes in there, and they the audience could have put

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<v Speaker 3>together exactly what's going on, and you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>tell everybody what happened through the movie. They could piece

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<v Speaker 3>it together on their own. And that's a really big mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to actually direct a feature film with

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<v Speaker 3>think that I could do it really.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, like horror genre or horror genre, or like some

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<v Speaker 4>something psychological mm hmm, psychological movies, like mind bending movies.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you'd be really good at that. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just curious question, but how do you feel about

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Peele.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like Jordan Peele.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I do too. I was just curious because he is,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, a modern day storyteller with some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that he's coming. I was just curious if you

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was any good because I do, but my

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<v Speaker 2>pig movies.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really like Candy Man, but all of his

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<v Speaker 3>other ones Nope, Nope, was really good. It was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Get Out was really good. That other one that he

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<v Speaker 3>did that was like his next US. Yes, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>was really good too. Like when you have the formula

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<v Speaker 3>for a psychological thriller, mind bending movie. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>the the problem with directors in like Hollywood is they

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<v Speaker 3>think that it's going to be too psychological to where

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<v Speaker 3>the audience can't figure it out. But the audience is

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<v Speaker 3>way but that that encourages rewatchability. Half the movies has

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<v Speaker 3>come out in the modern day have no rew watchability. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>then once and you're done, but not cubic right. I've

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<v Speaker 3>watched The Shining hundreds of times just making the movie,

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<v Speaker 3>and I watched it hundreds of times before that when

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<v Speaker 3>I was developing my theory of exactly what Stanley Kubrick

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to say within the movie. I watched it

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of times. Okay, there's not another movie, or another

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<v Speaker 3>genre of movie, or anybody other than Stanley Kubrick that

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<v Speaker 3>you can rewatch over and over and over and over

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<v Speaker 3>again and get something new, because they're like one and

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<v Speaker 3>done movie. M I will never rewatch a Marvel movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, it's like you know, they compared to go

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<v Speaker 2>into like an amusement park when you watch a Marvel movie,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because it's all just like in games and whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's over and there's like explosions and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bright flashing colors or whatever. It's like candy movie, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for like just zoning out. But I've been watching The

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<v Speaker 2>Shining since I was a little kid, and every time

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<v Speaker 2>I watch it, immediately, just like with the opening when

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<v Speaker 2>it's going through the lake and the trees and like

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of getting the landscape and it's just transcendent almost,

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<v Speaker 2>it like immediately takes you inside the movie. And it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter how many times I watch it, I always

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I've stayed at the overlook. By the time

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<v Speaker 2>the movie is over, I feel like I've went through

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<v Speaker 2>the experience. And so I did find it interesting that

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<v Speaker 2>you and Jay Widner mentioned in the movie that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not actually a horror film though, and so what would

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<v Speaker 2>you say.

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<v Speaker 3>That it is. I would say that it is a

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<v Speaker 3>psychological mind bending movie, and but it was categorized when

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<v Speaker 3>it first came out what as like a horror movie,

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<v Speaker 3>as like Stephen King's masterpiece horror movies. But there's very

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<v Speaker 3>few horror elements within Stanley Kubrick's The Shining. There's very

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<v Speaker 3>there's not any jump scares, r one jump scare. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's more of a psychological thriller. And that brings on

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<v Speaker 3>an entirely new meaning when you watch our movie at

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<v Speaker 3>Clockwork Shining, cubric's honesty three. Because the whole thing is psychological.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a psychological experiment. They're running a psychological experiment up

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<v Speaker 3>there on Jack. The entire thing has ran as like

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<v Speaker 3>an operation. It's a CIA mind control operation that's going

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<v Speaker 3>on there. And once you put all the pieces together

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<v Speaker 3>and you realize exactly what's going on, the entire movie

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense because there's not Everyone has their own theories

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<v Speaker 3>of what's going on in the Shining, and that's not

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<v Speaker 3>to say that any of those theories are wrong. They

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<v Speaker 3>can all be right simultaneously right. But the overall arching

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<v Speaker 3>theory is our theory that we present in A Clockwork

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<v Speaker 3>Shining seems to be the thing that makes sense because

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<v Speaker 3>it also makes everything else makes sense. The moon landing stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>which would be one giant psychological operation faking the moon,

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<v Speaker 3>which would be an mk ultra program like put live

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<v Speaker 3>feed out to everybody in the world all at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time of a fake moon landing. That's if that's true,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the greatest mk ultra mind control operation

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<v Speaker 3>as ever existed. Right, Can we make everybody believe everyone

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<v Speaker 3>in the world believe that we went to the moon?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the type of things that they do. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what the mk ultra programs is really about, is to

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<v Speaker 3>change the perception of people, to make them believe something

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<v Speaker 3>happened when it may or may not have actually happened. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We can implant memories, thoughts, and ideas into people's heads

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<v Speaker 3>to make them think that something happened when it didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 3>or vice versa, when something really did happen, and will

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<v Speaker 3>make them believe that it didn't happen. Right, It works

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<v Speaker 3>both ways. You can do it both ways. And when

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<v Speaker 3>you look at you and camera and what he was

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<v Speaker 3>doing in Canada whenever the CIA subleased the programs into Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's really where a lot of them went. They

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<v Speaker 3>subleased a lot of these programs to private companies and

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<v Speaker 3>private contractors. And private government contractors so that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to reveal that they were doing these experiments, right

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<v Speaker 3>because it's from a private company, and a private company

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<v Speaker 3>is beholden to. So they would use like hospital Wings.

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<v Speaker 3>They would open up a giant hospital wings to just

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<v Speaker 3>test mk ultra mind control stuff. And they had this

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<v Speaker 3>big hospital in Canada and several of the people from

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<v Speaker 3>Canada that was experimented on by you, and Cameron actually

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<v Speaker 3>sued the Canadian government for it and they won. But

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that he was doing was there's a process

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<v Speaker 3>to this. There's depatterning. So you depattern the mind of

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<v Speaker 3>your subject, so you essentially erase all of their cognitive behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>You kind of erase their memories, you erase what they

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<v Speaker 3>think is actually going on, any of their previous ideas

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<v Speaker 3>of what's happening, Like they're the critical thinking and their

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<v Speaker 3>some of their original outlook of what psychic driving was,

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<v Speaker 3>these patients that they had been depatterned and druggy. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as we talk about in the documentary at Clockwork Shining,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a whole list of drugs. Whenever Kathy O'Brien is

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<v Speaker 3>talking about her experiences within the MKA Ultra Monarch program,

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<v Speaker 3>we show a list of all the drugs that were

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<v Speaker 3>it's hundreds of drugs, from caffeine to adderall to weed, thenphetamine,

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<v Speaker 3>the nicotine. They used all of it. So it's not

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<v Speaker 3>just LSD. And that's a common misconception within the mk

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<v Speaker 3>too within the documentary. If you're unknowingly dosed with LSD,

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<v Speaker 3>amount of LSD. And there's proof of that with several

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<v Speaker 3>people being unknowingly dosed with LSD. I mean, Project Midnight

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<v Speaker 3>Climax was all about that.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just Frank Olsen stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Frank Olsen he was unknowingly dosed with LSD and jumped

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<v Speaker 3>out of the what was it the thirteenth or the fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Through a closed window, no less, with a big concussion

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<v Speaker 2>on his head. So he somehow hid himself over the head,

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<v Speaker 2>gave himself a deadly injection of something I think it

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the amount of like craziness that goes in

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<v Speaker 2>this documentary of Clockwork Shining. You touch on so many

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much to unpact because it is the Frank

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<v Speaker 2>Olsen LSD stuff, Monarch stuff. Stanley was friends with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of higher up uppity people at NASA, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is about stuff like that. Laurel Canyon big part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it's like there are so many layers. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a five layer burrito really, and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that caught my attention to is that you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this memo. I think it was to the President talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how Stanley Kubrick was the most promising something or other,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that he was working for the government

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<v Speaker 2>in some unspecified capacity, Like do you think that's part

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we don't know exactly what that project was because

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't state it in the document, but the document

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<v Speaker 3>states that there are five film directors that are being

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<v Speaker 3>looked at for some unknown government project, with Stanley Kubrick

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<v Speaker 3>being looked at as the most promising. And we know

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<v Speaker 3>that Stanley Kubrick's had ties to the government because the

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<v Speaker 3>Air Force came to the set of Doctor Strangelove. Whenever

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<v Speaker 3>he did the he made a model of the inside

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<v Speaker 3>of the B two stealth bomber, and he'd asked the government,

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<v Speaker 3>the Air Force, for if he could use like if

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<v Speaker 3>you could see the inside of a B two stealth

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<v Speaker 3>bomber so that you can get the inside of it correct.

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<v Speaker 3>The military said, no, you can't do that because it's

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<v Speaker 3>top secret classified information. If we let you do that,

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<v Speaker 3>then when other countries this film is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>distributed in other countries, and if other countries see what

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<v Speaker 3>the inside of the B too Stealth bomber looks like

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<v Speaker 3>and all of its gadgets and how it all works

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<v Speaker 3>and everything, then they can replicate it, right, So they

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<v Speaker 3>said no, And then Kubrick's project designer, his producer, which

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<v Speaker 3>we have talking about it in the documentary, he cut

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<v Speaker 3>out all of these like magazines and looked at models

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<v Speaker 3>of what people thought that the inside of a B

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<v Speaker 3>too Stealth bomber looked like. And they compiled all this

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<v Speaker 3>information and then they recreated what they believed the inside

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<v Speaker 3>of the B too Stealth bomber looked like. So then

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<v Speaker 3>then when the Air Force came to visit the side

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<v Speaker 3>of Doctor Strangelove and they watched the movie, they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's that going on here? We said, no, that you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't see the inside of this BE too Stealth bomber,

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you have what the inside of a B

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<v Speaker 3>two stealth bomber looks like almost perfectly. So we believe

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<v Speaker 3>that that was the inception of Qubricks starting to work

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<v Speaker 3>with the government and these three letter organizations and the military.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if you fast forward into two thousand and one,

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<v Speaker 3>a Space Odyssey at the end of that movie, there

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<v Speaker 3>was credits there that he was thinking all of these

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<v Speaker 3>big corporations like lockeed Martin Air Force Intelligence, Langley Air

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<v Speaker 3>Force Base, all these big military contractors and these three

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<v Speaker 3>letter organizations, right, and that all those credits ended up

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<v Speaker 3>getting cut out in the final run of the movie

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm sure that one of these military people came

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<v Speaker 3>to him and was like, Hey, you can't be thinking

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<v Speaker 3>all of us in the credits of this movie, because

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<v Speaker 3>then people are going to know that we're involved in

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<v Speaker 3>with the production exactly. NASA. The cameras that he used

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<v Speaker 3>for filming two thousand and one Space Honesty came from NASSA. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's connections all over the place here between military organizations,

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<v Speaker 3>three letter organizations, and direct ties with Stanley Kubrick. And

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<v Speaker 3>we also show within the documentary how many other movies

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<v Speaker 3>have been had production and has ties in the military

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<v Speaker 3>industrial complex. Die another Day, the James Bond movies, Transformers movies,

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<v Speaker 3>which all those came out way later than But what

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't know about that until the four year request

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<v Speaker 3>came back and then they got all that information. So

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<v Speaker 3>now the cat is out of the bag that the

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<v Speaker 3>Three Letter organizations in the military is involved with film production,

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<v Speaker 3>and then that ties into the Laurel Canyon stuff. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So Laurel Canyon, there was a military base called Lookout

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<v Speaker 3>mount on top right outside of la on top of

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<v Speaker 3>Laurel Canyon called Lookout Mountain Air Force Base. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>huge facility. They had sound stages, they had movie sets.

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<v Speaker 3>They that's where the miniature bomb, the nuclear bomb explosions

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<v Speaker 3>all took place there. That was filmed on miniature sets, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And there was thousands and thousands of films that were

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<v Speaker 3>made there. And it's just a coincidence that this is

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<v Speaker 3>right beside la where Hollywood is, where all these films

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<v Speaker 3>are being made. Like, you got to be using mental

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<v Speaker 3>gymnastics to not think that the military is involved and

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<v Speaker 3>is making films to put out to the public. And

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<v Speaker 3>also how much of the stuff that we think is

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<v Speaker 3>actually real footage of real events happening were actually staged

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<v Speaker 3>events film that Lookout Mountain because if they were doing

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<v Speaker 3>this way back when, And Jared Leto now owns the

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<v Speaker 3>Lookout Mountain Air Force Base, yeah, he just does thirty

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<v Speaker 3>the Mars and the cult that Jared Leto is supposedly

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<v Speaker 3>all involved with the white roagued cult is what they

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<v Speaker 3>call it. And if they were doing it back then,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were so involved in making films, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know what all those films were because it's

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<v Speaker 3>still all classified, we don't know what any of that was.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, you'd have to be using mental gymnastics to

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<v Speaker 3>think that they're still not doing that right. That brings

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<v Speaker 3>in the question like all this stuff, it brings in,

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<v Speaker 3>It brings nine to eleven into question. It brings in,

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<v Speaker 3>like the JFK assassination, all of it into question. Because

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<v Speaker 3>they can literally just film something on a military soundstage

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<v Speaker 3>and then set off as something real in the public.

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<v Speaker 3>They just got to put it everywhere, right, and now

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<v Speaker 3>they don't necessarily that's evolved now they don't even have

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<v Speaker 3>to use real people. Now they don't even have to

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<v Speaker 3>film it. They can just use AI. And if anybody

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<v Speaker 3>thinks that they don't, if they haven't perfected the technology

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<v Speaker 3>of AI, the military hasn't perfect to where you legitimately

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<v Speaker 3>cannot tell the difference between if it's real or if

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<v Speaker 3>it's one hundred percent fake, just because we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>that technology yet, then you're only kidding yourself right, hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent have it and they been using it for decades. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>There's dual use for all of these things. There's dual use.

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<v Speaker 3>There's the military use and then there's the public use.

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<v Speaker 3>They figure it all out within the military how they

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<v Speaker 3>can use it for their operations and what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>and then later on they release it to the public.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how long did we have drones? How long

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<v Speaker 3>were military drones a thing before we got these little

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<v Speaker 3>tiny public drones that people can use. Hey, they've been

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<v Speaker 3>using drones or freaking decades, years and years and years,

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<v Speaker 3>way before the public ever knew that the military had

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<v Speaker 3>unmanned drones. So if you use that same logic with

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<v Speaker 3>AI and with these soundstage military bases, then they're still

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<v Speaker 3>doing the exact same thing today. It's like a it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a mission of what they were doing before so

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<v Speaker 3>that they can kind of come out and be like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we stopped doing this. Is like the MK Ultra programs

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<v Speaker 3>when they shut when they disclose it to the public

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty five. Right, they kind of had to

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<v Speaker 3>do that so that the CIA would take the fall

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<v Speaker 3>for it and take the bad rap while all the

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<v Speaker 3>other all the other three letter organizations were also doing

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<v Speaker 3>the exact same thing, but it gets all of those

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<v Speaker 3>off of the hook. I mean, the Air Force has

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<v Speaker 3>been running MK ultra programs almost since its inception, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Walter Bosley, the AFOSI Special Air Force agent within our documentary,

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<v Speaker 3>says that the Air Force he worked for the Air Force.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that the Air Force, out of all of

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<v Speaker 3>the military branches, was the most interested in MK ultra.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're all doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it I mean I think that they're up

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<v Speaker 2>to something else too with Lookout Mountain, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at who had top secret clearance to get into

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<v Speaker 2>that place, it's like Marilyn Monroe, Why the fuck does

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<v Speaker 2>she have top secret anything to get in there? They're

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<v Speaker 2>filming like what nuclear test footage? Why does Marilyn Monroe

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<v Speaker 2>need to be up in there? I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's odd to me. And then I spoke with a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a doctor, she's a psychiatrist now, her name is

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Juliet Angel, and she said that she was taken

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<v Speaker 2>there as a child as part of these kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like Kathy O'Brien like ritual sex abuse type of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and that she said that she went to Lookout Mountain

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<v Speaker 2>Studio and that they were filming snuff films there, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said that, like with one certainty, that that's like

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<v Speaker 2>part of the things that they were doing there. And

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<v Speaker 2>it just makes you wonder because of all of the ritualism,

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<v Speaker 2>and we know that they they do have to traumatize

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<v Speaker 2>you in order to get your mind in a certain place.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you look at Stanley's work, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>sprinkled throughout it. I would say probably low Lita and

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<v Speaker 2>eyes wide shut kind of our closer look at maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some of the sexual side of things, but clockwork, orange

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<v Speaker 2>and the shining are like the military side of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense, well, yeah, absolutely. But also with

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<v Speaker 3>Stanley Kubrick. We were really nice to Stanley Kubrick. But

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<v Speaker 3>after he died, one of his best friends came was

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<v Speaker 3>only had one key to his office, right, he was

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<v Speaker 3>the only other person that had a key to his office.

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<v Speaker 3>So then he shows up at Kubrick's house, goes to

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<v Speaker 3>open up his closet and whenever he rolls up to

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00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 3>his house, there's these men in suits bet are there

419
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and they're going through all of Kubrick's stuff and they're

420
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 3>taking a lot of his things out of his office. Okay,

421
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 3>now who else had all the the almost that exact

422
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 3>same thing happened to them like Diddy, Okay they place. Yeah,

423
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 3>given he wasn't dead whenever they did it, he was

424
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 3>still alive, but they raided his place. Epstein mm hmmm.

425
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.799
<v Speaker 3>What's the other what's the other filmmaker the filmmaker producer

426
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 3>that got caught up in the me too movement?

427
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Then why? Uh what?

428
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Harvey Harvey Weinstein, Harvey West. So when you put two

429
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 3>two together here, it's not looking too good for Kubrick.

430
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Speaker 3>But also it could be that because he had to

431
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 3>have known about Lookout Mound because he lived in LA

432
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 3>during the time that Lookout Mound was in operation. And

433
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:51.319
<v Speaker 3>if you're a filmmaker, you're directing movies. He had a

434
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 3>rich uncle that lived in LA so he moved to

435
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.039
<v Speaker 3>LA for like two or three years. He had to

436
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 3>know about Lookout Mount. And if and if what you're

437
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 3>saying is true that they were doing like snuff films

438
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 3>and like really weird operation. But there's another thing too.

439
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.079
<v Speaker 3>It's like but like crisis actors as well. We know

440
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 3>the crisis actors are one hundred percent of real thing. Okay,

441
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 3>so Marilyn Monroe could have had a job up there

442
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>to play different people that are essentially like because a

443
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 3>lot of people look like Marilyn Monroe, right, A lot

444
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 3>of these people look very similar to other people throughout it.

445
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 3>They're just modernized and so. And not only that, like

446
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.720
<v Speaker 3>with people like Britney Spears, a lot of these people

447
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 3>have body doubles. Okay, they have body doubles that are

448
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:44.039
<v Speaker 3>used for their music videos and famous musicians have them.

449
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Actors all have them, Actors have stump stump people body doubles,

450
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 3>they all use them. So if you can get somebody

451
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 3>that looks similar to somebody else, then they can be

452
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 3>used as like a like an actor, and that's like

453
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 3>the would be like the ultimate acting role. Right, Like,

454
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 3>if you're if you're a famous actor and you're trying

455
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.039
<v Speaker 3>to take your acting to the pinnacle of where you

456
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 3>want it to be, what would be the greatest acting achievement?

457
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>The greatest acting achievement would be to completely impersonate somebody

458
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>else in reality, make people believe that you are someone else. Now,

459
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that everybody is doing this, not saying

460
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 3>that everybody is like somebody else, right, but throughout history,

461
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>this has to have happened at some point, right, Someone

462
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 3>definitely had the idea was like, okay, well what if

463
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>we took you know, someone like Marilyn Monroe, and then

464
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 3>we turn them and turn them into a completely different

465
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 3>actor in reality and not give them the same name

466
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>as Marilyn in Roe. Would people buy it? Would people

467
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Speaker 3>believe that is a completely separate other person m And

468
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 3>I believe that they would because they would have no

469
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 3>reason to believe that it wasn't So do you have

470
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 3>many different people in many different roles throughout history that

471
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 3>is literally the same person?

472
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Like for me, sometimes I question if people really die

473
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>in the way that they say, Like I don't know

474
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>if Jim Morrison really died or if they just repurposed him,

475
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, or if Taylor Swift has been swapped out.

476
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a lot of talk about her. I

477
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know if Sharon Tate really died or if she's

478
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.920
<v Speaker 2>just playing a new character. I mean, sometimes I think sensationalism,

479
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:51.359
<v Speaker 2>especially coming out of the Laurel Canyon scene. I don't

480
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>know that those weren't just all actors who got repurposed

481
00:30:55.079 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>in some other unspecified capacity, because they are useful, why

482
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>would you kill then you know it's.

483
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Not out of the ram of possibility. But then there's

484
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 3>another possibility that people just randomly die too. I mean

485
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 3>that definitely is a thing. But when you have parents

486
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 3>that are high ranking military officials. Jim Morrison's dad was

487
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 3>a high ranking naval intelligence officer that was responsible for

488
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.240
<v Speaker 3>the Golf of Tonkin incident to false fy Golf of

489
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Tonkin incident that got us into the Vietnam War. Sarance

490
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 3>Tate dad was a high ranking military officer. Bob Marley's

491
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 3>dad was a British naval commander. Like, all of these

492
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 3>people have ties to military intelligence, so you can't put

493
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 3>much past them and what they would do to get

494
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 3>away with something. And it makes so much sense as

495
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 3>to the reason why Jim Morrison was like so wild

496
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 3>and like crazy and was kind of just doing whatever

497
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.960
<v Speaker 3>he wanted to do. He was actually an actor before

498
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 3>he became like a musician and formed the Doors. Okay,

499
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 3>several of these people. Tupac was an actor, right, Yeah,

500
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 3>people are actors and then they get into it's it's

501
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 3>it's insanity, it's really insanity. But it makes sense with

502
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Jim Morrison, in the way that he acted. He acted

503
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.759
<v Speaker 3>like he could do whatever he wanted to do and

504
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 3>that he wasn't going to get in trouble. And he

505
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 3>never did get in trouble. Yeah, he got arrested a

506
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.799
<v Speaker 3>few times and maybe thrown in jail for a couple

507
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 3>of days or maybe a week or whatever, but he

508
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.519
<v Speaker 3>was always let out. And the same with Charles Manson. Charles.

509
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 3>How many times was Charles Manson andcars rated whenever he

510
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 3>was growing up? How many psych wars did Charles Manson

511
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 3>go into m and he was just immediately let out?

512
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Right.

513
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 2>It makes you think kind of along those same lines,

514
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>like with Program to Kill when Dave McGowan talks about

515
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 2>how many times serial killers were caught, but they weren't caught.

516
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 2>They were let back out, or they escaped or some

517
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 2>in some way they got back out on the streets,

518
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 2>and it just makes me wonder. I mean, a lot

519
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>of this is just a big movie in and of itself.

520
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're living in a movie, I think. But

521
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 2>like with Lookout Mountain, laboratory is what it's called in

522
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Dave McGowan's book, I don't know why they called it

523
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 2>a laboratory that I don't know why that's significant, but

524
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 2>you compared it to Overlook Hotel because of how it

525
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:45.000
<v Speaker 2>looks in the name. So I thought that was really

526
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>interesting and I had never considered that before. Did Stanley

527
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 2>have anything to do with where they picked to film

528
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the movie.

529
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he sent a whole entire research team to try

530
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 3>and scout location to film the movie, but he ultimately

531
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 3>landed on just building a set. But the external shots

532
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:14.840
<v Speaker 3>of the hotel within the Shining is at the Lodge

533
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 3>in Oregon right around where you are. Timberline Lodge is

534
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>where the external shots of the hotel is filmed, which

535
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 3>creates continuity errors within the Shining as well, because the

536
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 3>exterior shots of the hotel is from the Timberline Lodge

537
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>and the rest of the shots is on a set.

538
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.639
<v Speaker 3>So in the opening shot of the hotel, which I

539
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:42.440
<v Speaker 3>have some slides here that I'm going to show here

540
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit later on, it goes over some of this,

541
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 3>but I think it's important to mention now it creates

542
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 3>a continuity hora because there's no maze in behind the

543
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 3>hotel in that first establishing shot of the Overlook Hotel

544
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.360
<v Speaker 3>within the movie, but then later on there is a

545
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 3>maze back there because they're filmed in two different there's

546
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 3>also a ski what is it the ski line or whatever,

547
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 3>that's going up the wet side of the mountain. Whenever

548
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Olmens says that there's no skiing up here, it creates

549
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.760
<v Speaker 3>these problems when he decided not to film it on

550
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 3>an actual location, he found it on a set. But yeah,

551
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.760
<v Speaker 3>he again, I think that this goes back to him

552
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 3>being aware of Lookout Mountain Air Force Base or Lookout

553
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Mountain laboratories and wanting to kind of design the same

554
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 3>type of structure for the hotel in the Shiny. It's

555
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 3>just a coincidence that is named almost the exact same thing.

556
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 3>And like the military was running definitely running experiments that

557
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Lookout Mountain base, and you know, what are they doing

558
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 3>within the Shining. It's a it's an experiment on the

559
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 3>people within the Shining, it's an experiment on the audience,

560
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 3>and it's an experimental movie in a hole. So it's

561
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 3>like a triple whammy. You know, it's not only psychological

562
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 3>within the person that's watching the movie. It's psychological to

563
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 3>the actors within the movie as well. The giant psychological

564
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:35.199
<v Speaker 3>operation and and in the way that Kubrick is treating

565
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Shelley Duvall within the filming of is something that a handler,

566
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 3>an MK ultra handler would do to a victim mm hm.

567
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 3>And we see that within the documentary that Kubrick is

568
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.159
<v Speaker 3>like berating her. He's telling the the staff and the

569
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 3>people that are working on the movie to not listen

570
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:05.920
<v Speaker 3>to her, to not you know, tend to her needs.

571
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Her hair was falling out, she was all fucked up.

572
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.119
<v Speaker 2>And then I think the scene with like the baseball bat,

573
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>like as she's coming up the stairs, he made her

574
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>do that like one hundred and twenty seven times or

575
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.199
<v Speaker 2>something like that, and her hands were raw and bleeding

576
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>and she was exhausted, And I mean that is an

577
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>MK to me, Like, that's that's MK.

578
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Like you.

579
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Jack Nicholson, I think got off the hook. Other than

580
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he Stanley pretty much rewrote the script

581
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>every day and everybody had to keep relearning everything. He

582
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>was like writing the movie as he was going. But

583
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting that he picked that location because

584
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 2>there is a hotel that the Shining the book is

585
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 2>based on that you can go and stay at and

586
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>visits in Colorado. I went and stayed there with my

587
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 2>husband for Halloween one year. I mean, there's nothing special

588
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>about it other than the fact that Stephen King used

589
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>it as the inspiration for the book or whatever. But

590
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Stephen King hated everything about The Shining so much that

591
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 2>he went back and made like a shitty like TV

592
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>show called The Shining. I'm pretty sure, and it was

593
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 2>an epic failure. But it's like Stanley purposely changed everything.

594
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:24.400
<v Speaker 2>He changed everything about the story and even the location,

595
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>so everything was picked very specifically to his standard of

596
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.760
<v Speaker 2>what he was trying to do. So yeah, I mean

597
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was when he showed the side by

598
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 2>side of like Lookout Mountain and the Overlook and how

599
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 2>the names are so similar, I was like, what the

600
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>actual fuck, Like, that's so crazy.

601
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 3>And why would you be writing a script as you're

602
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:55.079
<v Speaker 3>shooting a movie. Like nobody in their right mind would

603
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 3>ever do that. It would never be greenlit like that

604
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.280
<v Speaker 3>unless you're, you know, doing it on your own, unless

605
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.679
<v Speaker 3>you're funding it yourself. Then you can do whatever you want,

606
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 3>but no studio is gonna dish out money to make

607
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 3>a movie where a script hasn't been written. And we

608
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 3>believe that Kubrick turned in a script that was more

609
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 3>aligned to Stephen King's novel okay, and then so that

610
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 3>the movie would get approved because he just came off

611
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 3>of a really bad movie, a really bad flop, which

612
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 3>was Barry Lindon, Berry Linden and I Go Over Good.

613
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 3>It lost some money. Warner Brothers was probably like, Okay,

614
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.840
<v Speaker 3>let's you know, let's take Let's do something that's gonna

615
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 3>that's been proven to work, because they just had a

616
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.880
<v Speaker 3>big hit with the Exorcist and William freaking directing a

617
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 3>novel and it was a really big movie for them,

618
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 3>made them a lot of money. So they were like, Okay, well,

619
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 3>here's this new book by Steven King, The Shining, Why

620
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:05.559
<v Speaker 3>don't you do a film adaptation of that. So then

621
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 3>he wrote them a script that was more a keen

622
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 3>to Stephen King's book. Then he decided to change it

623
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:20.880
<v Speaker 3>as they were filming it, which would be a complete

624
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 3>and total nightmare. I could not imagine as a director

625
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 3>having to rewrite something as you're filming it. It doesn't

626
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.599
<v Speaker 3>make any sense to do, like you're looking at a

627
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 3>disaster of a movie, which toward the end of the movie,

628
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 3>there was an original ending to The Shining that I

629
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 3>was going to ask.

630
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 2>You about that the alternative ending.

631
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:55.760
<v Speaker 3>So there was an alternative ending that doesn't that is

632
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 3>not the same ending to the ending that we're familiar

633
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 3>with with Jack. Just uh, he's out in the maze,

634
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:04.800
<v Speaker 3>he's kind of going catatonic or whatever, and then the

635
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 3>next scene is you know, him dead, he's frozen in

636
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 3>the ice, and then it zooms up to the picture

637
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.760
<v Speaker 3>on the wall. July fourth, nineteen twenty one. Right, so

638
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Cubic originally had another Indian in there. Where Windy wakes

639
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:24.000
<v Speaker 3>up in the hospital, Almand comes to visit and there's

640
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 3>this is one hundred percent reel. The script is online,

641
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 3>you can. We showed the script in the documentary, but

642
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 3>that's all that we have of it. And Wendy waking

643
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 3>up in the hospital, Almond coming to visit her in

644
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 3>the hospital, Danny is there. Almond pretty much explains to

645
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 3>her and is like, hey, we went up to the hotel.

646
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:48.920
<v Speaker 3>We checked it out. Nothing like what you said happened.

647
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 3>We didn't find any evidence for okay, almost making it

648
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 3>seem like that it's a one operation. They just went

649
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 3>up there and clear and everything out right. They cleaned

650
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 3>it all up and made it seem like that it

651
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.199
<v Speaker 3>didn't happen because Wendy has been traumatized to like no end.

652
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, oh, who's gonna believe this very traumatized woman.

653
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 3>She's gonna mix things up in her mind and whatever.

654
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 3>And then he meets Danny in the hallway and then

655
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.159
<v Speaker 3>throws Danny the tennis ball that Jack was bouncing off

656
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 3>of the wall in the movie, and also is the

657
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 3>tennis ball that rolled toward Danny while he's in the

658
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 3>hallway before he goes in the room two thirty seven. Okay,

659
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 3>and qubreak cut that section out of the movie. Now,

660
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 3>there's a few people that do remember seeing it, because

661
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 3>it did run in some of the test screenings in

662
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 3>California and I believe in New York, so some very

663
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 3>few people got to see the original ending to the Shining.

664
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:56.199
<v Speaker 3>It's one of the most infamous long lost pieces of

665
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:03.840
<v Speaker 3>film media ever. And Stanley Qubreic, he's, you know, famous

666
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>for destroying all of his outtakes of movies, all of

667
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 3>the footage that he didn't use any had deleted scenes

668
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, he just destroyed them.

669
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think he took that ending off though?

670
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it gave too much away? Like this

671
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 2>was all in your mind.

672
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 3>There was another scene that was also cut out that

673
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.679
<v Speaker 3>was Jack going into the boiler room in the basement

674
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 3>and finding a scrap book of all the tragedies that

675
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 3>happened at the Overlook Hotel, and that's how he knew

676
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 3>who Grady was. So the remember whenever he's in the

677
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:48.760
<v Speaker 3>bathroom and talking to Grady and he was like, I

678
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 3>know you, I have seen you around here someplace before.

679
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 3>He's referring to the scrap book that he found in

680
00:43:56.400 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 3>the basement and he's looking through all the photos and

681
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 3>seeing the tragedy that all men talked to him about

682
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:07.559
<v Speaker 3>whenever he was there for the interview that a man

683
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>named Charles Grady, but then later he's referred to as

684
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Delbert Grady, which we believe that there's two different Grady's

685
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:21.440
<v Speaker 3>running around, But he finds a scrap book and then

686
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 3>that's how he knows. And that remnant of that scene

687
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 3>being in there is prominent because we get that interaction

688
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:33.079
<v Speaker 3>with Grady and we don't know what Jack is talking

689
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>about because the scene was cut it off. But yeah,

690
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.599
<v Speaker 3>so the end it definitely gave too much away because

691
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 3>in our examination of the movie, it's an mk Ultra program,

692
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 3>and this is setting up the fact that the entire

693
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:53.159
<v Speaker 3>thing is a giant operation. But they had all this

694
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 3>stuff happen. They drug Jack with the alcohol that was

695
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:02.719
<v Speaker 3>spiked with LS or some concoction of drugs. He goes

696
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.159
<v Speaker 3>up in the room two thirty seven. He hallucinates the

697
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 3>woman that's up there. It's either an actor or a woman.

698
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:14.039
<v Speaker 3>So you can if you think of the movie Shutter Island.

699
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen the movies where within the movie all

700
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:24.599
<v Speaker 3>of these people are like LARPing their roles within them

701
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 3>to convince Leonardo DiCaprio's character that he's in like a

702
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 3>mental institution.

703
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Unlike he's a detective, and yes.

704
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 3>To ultimately trigger his memories of exactly what was going

705
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 3>on for therapy purposes. Right, Well, that's essentially what's going

706
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 3>on within the Shining. These people that are supposedly ghosts

707
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 3>are not really ghosts. That's why they're not prominently portrayed

708
00:45:56.840 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 3>as ghost like with Stephen Kings of version of the

709
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 3>Horrible TV series that he did, or like in Stephen

710
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 3>King's novel where things are all like mystical and like

711
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.440
<v Speaker 3>swing sets are haunted. There's a haunted bush outside the

712
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 3>turns in, the monsters and all this wacky, weirdo paranormal garbage,

713
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 3>which is one garbage. Kubric decided to make the most

714
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 3>realistic version of this, so he made actual people playing

715
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 3>these roles within the movie. So Grady is a person.

716
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Whenever Jack goes into the the Gold Room and all

717
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.800
<v Speaker 3>the people are there having a party, all those people

718
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 3>are real people. Within the movie. There are real people.

719
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 3>They're actors LARPing this situation to convince Jack to murder

720
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 3>and kill his family. That's what it's all about. And

721
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 3>then whenever Jack goes in there and takes the drink

722
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:03.119
<v Speaker 3>of alcohol, whenever Amens said that there's no alcohol in

723
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:06.239
<v Speaker 3>the premise, they remove all the alcohol. Then he goes

724
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 3>in and talks to Lloyd the bartender, and Lloyd the

725
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 3>bartender poison a glass. It's laced with LSD. It's laced

726
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.880
<v Speaker 3>with some kind of drug. And then Windy comes in

727
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 3>and says that Danny was attacked by a lady upstairs,

728
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 3>which was probably a real lady right in the in

729
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 3>the building that's in that's a part of this operation.

730
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the hotel is freaking huge. He probably really

731
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 3>was attacked by a lady because he stumbled across the

732
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 3>room that one of these agents, one of these CIA

733
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 3>agents was actually in, which then correlates to the end

734
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 3>of the movie whenever the bear and the man, the

735
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 3>bear is giving the blowjob to the man and no

736
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 3>one understands us seeing no one really knows exactly what's

737
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.960
<v Speaker 3>going on other than all the other teddy bear symbolism,

738
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 3>which teddy bear symbolism is linked to pedophilia, right, which,

739
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.679
<v Speaker 3>and then you have Lolita mm hmmm, which is all

740
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:07.719
<v Speaker 3>about pedophilia very much. So those two people were actors

741
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.360
<v Speaker 3>within the movie playing other actors LARPing to try and

742
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:15.679
<v Speaker 3>get Jack to kill his family, okay, and whenever Whindy

743
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.800
<v Speaker 3>stumbles across them, they think that the operation is like

744
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>over right, they're on their freaking lunch break here.

745
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah. But you only see it through his perspective though,

746
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 2>which is why it's such a mind fuck, And that's

747
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 2>why at the end of the movie you're.

748
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Like, what did I just even watch?

749
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Like what happened? Like what is going on here? Because

750
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 2>it's meant to show you his journey but also take

751
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 2>you on it too, So like by the end of

752
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the movie you're like, why do I feel like I

753
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 2>just got mkid like it's crazy.

754
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, because there's so many continuity errs within the movie,

755
00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 3>which is to psychologically mess with the viewer's mind of

756
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 3>exactly what's going on in the movie. Because if you

757
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:06.280
<v Speaker 3>just watch this for the first time, like try and

758
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 3>go back to the very first time that you ever

759
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 3>watched the movie, did you know about any of these

760
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 3>continuity years.

761
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I had absolutely no idea.

762
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 3>But it still messed with your mind subconsciously. And Kubrick

763
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:31.519
<v Speaker 3>was very interested in subconscious manipulation. He was actually very

764
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 3>interested in advertising, like cigarette company. We know that the

765
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:39.360
<v Speaker 3>companies put like little flashes of images within their movie

766
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:44.519
<v Speaker 3>to subconsciously get the viewer to think something else, to

767
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 3>buy more products. What's just the very simple version of it.

768
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 3>That's like the surface layer of it. But Kubrick was

769
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.360
<v Speaker 3>very interested in that. And then at the end of

770
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 3>our movie, during the credits, he also talks about that.

771
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:05.719
<v Speaker 3>He said, well, it's interesting to me whenever I make

772
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:10.800
<v Speaker 3>a movie for the audience to think, oh, well, was

773
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:16.519
<v Speaker 3>that on purpose or was that a mistake? All right,

774
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:21.519
<v Speaker 3>so he wants to mess with the audience, which makes

775
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 3>you believe that all of these continuity ors, and everything

776
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 3>that's wrong with the movie was one done on purpose.

777
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me see some of these continuity ters. I

778
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:37.920
<v Speaker 2>actually had it in my notes to ask you about

779
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that because I feel like I caught one. But maybe

780
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it's in your slides. If it's not, then I'll be surprised.

781
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, can you see it? Yes? Okay, all right, this

782
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 3>is a clockwork shining. And some of these are in

783
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 3>the movie. Some of them are not in the movie

784
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:02.880
<v Speaker 3>because if we just focused on all these, it would

785
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:05.679
<v Speaker 3>be the movie would have to be like four hours long,

786
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.360
<v Speaker 3>and it was almost two hours long, so it was

787
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 3>already kind of rough. Okay. So the first one, which

788
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 3>is in the movie is this handprint on whenever Jack

789
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 3>is at the bar, he gets up, this lady walks past.

790
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 3>She's actually the one that bumps into Grady to have

791
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:37.320
<v Speaker 3>him spill the alcoholic drink on Jack's shirt. Okay, and

792
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 3>it looks like that she has a a handprint like

793
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 3>on her ass. Right, it looks like a four fingered handprint.

794
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 3>And people have contested this. They're like, oh, well, it's

795
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.840
<v Speaker 3>a part of the dress. It's baked into the drus. Well,

796
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:55.679
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter if it's baked into the dress, it

797
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:58.360
<v Speaker 3>still looks like a freaking bloody handprint. I think that, Yeah,

798
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 3>I think that they think that. I'm saying that someone

799
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 3>literally covered their handpaint hand in red paint and then

800
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:06.960
<v Speaker 3>put it on her ass. That's not what I'm saying.

801
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying that whatever is on the back of her

802
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 3>dress looks like a freaking handprint. It sure does. And

803
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 3>if you think of what this kind of relates to,

804
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 3>which then you get into Castaway with Tom Hanks. Right,

805
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 3>you have a four fingered bloody handprint on Wilson the volleyball.

806
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, all right, so that's the like prove and

807
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 3>show that you know, the four fingered handprints do exist.

808
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 3>It's on Wilson.

809
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Now.

810
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Granted this movie came out in two thousand, uh you know,

811
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 3>two decades after the Shining, but still.

812
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:51.519
<v Speaker 2>It's like a thing.

813
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Then when you connect the stuff about Tom Hanks, okay

814
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 3>and uh Stanley Cube break, you can put two and

815
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 3>two together on your own. There. So this one is

816
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.039
<v Speaker 3>one of the ones that we showed in the documentary,

817
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 3>which is a light switch disappearing whenever blinking on his

818
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 3>name right now, Colin, Yes, whenever Hollerin is giving them

819
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.840
<v Speaker 3>a tour of the hotel. Windy and Danny. There's a

820
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:32.280
<v Speaker 3>light switch that's above the storage room. Whenever Windy is

821
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.599
<v Speaker 3>carrying Jack's body to put him inside the storage room,

822
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 3>the light switch is gone. Here's another light switch that

823
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:42.239
<v Speaker 3>is disappearing and reappearing.

824
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:49.760
<v Speaker 2>This is whatever one is so crazy, like, why where

825
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:50.320
<v Speaker 2>did it go?

826
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:57.159
<v Speaker 3>Yep in, Yeah, it's wild. So this is the top

827
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 3>frame of this. The top panel is whenever Jack is

828
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:05.079
<v Speaker 3>walking into Almend's office to do the interview in the

829
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 3>beginning of the movie, there's not a light switch. And

830
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 3>then when Jack is walking back into Almond's office later

831
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 3>on to destroy the radio to prevent Wendy and Danny

832
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 3>from leaving the hotel, there appear as a light switch

833
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:23.280
<v Speaker 3>underneath the picture framet. This is the maze that I

834
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 3>was talking about earlier. In the establishing shot, there's not

835
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:32.159
<v Speaker 3>a maze, and then later on, obviously there is a

836
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 3>maze behind it. This one's interesting. The pattern on Jack's

837
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 3>tie during the interview looks like the identical pattern to

838
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:45.400
<v Speaker 3>the over.

839
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Establishing Oh my god, that's crazy.

840
00:54:54.719 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 3>This one is the dwarfs sticker disappearing off of Danny's door,

841
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.639
<v Speaker 3>So whenever Danny has the visions, there's a adope the

842
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.559
<v Speaker 3>dwarf sticker on the outside of his door. And then

843
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:13.239
<v Speaker 3>whenever the doctor comes to visit Danny and check on him,

844
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:17.559
<v Speaker 3>the adope the dwarf sticker is missing. This one is

845
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 3>when Wendy is telling the doctor about how this one's

846
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 3>a dialogue error. So whenever Wendy is telling the doctor

847
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 3>how long it was that Danny was having these episodes

848
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:43.920
<v Speaker 3>between the time that he abused Danny doesn't add up

849
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:48.159
<v Speaker 3>to the same amount of time that Jack said to

850
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Lloyd the bartender of how long it was, Jack says

851
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:57.440
<v Speaker 3>that it was two years ago, so whenever he abused

852
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Danny and injured his arm, which then made Danny, like

853
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 3>through trauma, start having these quote unquote psychic abilities, because

854
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.039
<v Speaker 3>that's how the psychic abilities are developed. They're developed through trauma.

855
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:13.719
<v Speaker 3>And that was one of the things through that they

856
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:17.079
<v Speaker 3>discovered through the mk Ultra programs is that that.

857
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Is a.

858
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Uh like a byproduct of trauma and putting people through

859
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:29.760
<v Speaker 3>these programs is that it unlocks abilities within the person

860
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.320
<v Speaker 3>that you're traumatizing. This was the kool aid that's on

861
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:36.599
<v Speaker 3>top of the fridge, which you know, drink the kool aid.

862
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 3>You got the the Jim Jones incident that was happened

863
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:46.920
<v Speaker 3>during the filming of this movie, which is the Jim

864
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Jones wasn't actual kool aid though, but it came synonymous

865
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.079
<v Speaker 3>with kool aid. I think it was flavory, the Flavory

866
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Aid and the Jim Jones cult drinking, yes, dying of

867
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 3>but the ins and has becomes synonymous with This one's interesting.

868
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:09.440
<v Speaker 3>This is a clear plastic tarp that is seen on

869
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:14.679
<v Speaker 3>the set as Danny is driving his tricycle through the hotel.

870
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:19.880
<v Speaker 3>This one is a chair that disappears, a chair and

871
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:26.719
<v Speaker 3>a coffee table that disappears. Behind Jack. Windy is talking

872
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:30.119
<v Speaker 3>to him about the sandwich. I'll make you a sandwich,

873
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:33.159
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, oh, well, when I'm in here, you

874
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:38.360
<v Speaker 3>know that I'm working and you don't bother me when

875
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:43.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm working. The first shot has a chair and behind

876
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 3>it it cuts to Windy the chair. When it goes

877
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:48.559
<v Speaker 3>back to Jack, the chair and the coffee table is gone.

878
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:50.519
<v Speaker 3>It cuts back to Windy and then in this bottom

879
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 3>right hand corner panel, when it cuts back to Jack,

880
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 3>the chair and the table is back into the shop.

881
00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:00.280
<v Speaker 2>What do you think the significance is, because like this,

882
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:02.519
<v Speaker 2>it's when you look at it like this, it's like

883
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:07.239
<v Speaker 2>blatantly obvious, and you wonder why you haven't noticed it before.

884
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:11.039
<v Speaker 3>You'd think that you would really notice this. And how

885
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:18.199
<v Speaker 3>many people had to check this before it ever was released,

886
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Like how many editors and how many production design sud

887
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 3>designer people did he how many eyes did this stuff

888
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:35.360
<v Speaker 3>pass through before it was ever published? Right? This is

889
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 3>a really really obvious one that because it's there, it

890
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:43.119
<v Speaker 3>disappears and then it reappears again. This is one of

891
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 3>the first ones that I noticed. This one is whenever

892
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Olman is talking to Jack it doesn't make sense. He

893
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:56.960
<v Speaker 3>says that the hotel is shut down from a certain

894
00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.599
<v Speaker 3>period of time to another period of time, which then

895
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:04.719
<v Speaker 3>does correlate with how many months Jack and his family

896
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 3>will actually be staying at the hotel, which is another

897
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:12.639
<v Speaker 3>dialogue air. This one is Almon. This is one that

898
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Jay Widner has pointed out several times. It's also in

899
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 3>our movie. It's also in Room two thirty seven as well.

900
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.719
<v Speaker 3>It's whenever Jack goes to meet Almonds and shake his hand.

901
00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:27.800
<v Speaker 3>The paper tray on the desk makes it look like

902
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Almond has a heart on This one is another interesting

903
00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 3>one that Jay Widner has pointed out that the Teddy

904
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Bear in the background with the fire truck in the

905
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:46.159
<v Speaker 3>background shot of Danni and Wendy before Windy goes down

906
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 3>to confront Jack and she finds out that he's not

907
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.480
<v Speaker 3>actually writing a novel, and he's just writing the same

908
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:58.599
<v Speaker 3>phrase over and over again, which is psychic driving, psyche driving.

909
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:06.159
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly you what they did with Sir Hans, Sir Ham.

910
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:08.800
<v Speaker 3>If you look at his notebooks, it says RFK must

911
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:10.719
<v Speaker 3>die or f G must die over and over and

912
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:14.559
<v Speaker 3>over again. It's the same type of psychic driving programming

913
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 3>that they're doing to Jack within the Shining, They're just

914
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:19.199
<v Speaker 3>having him write the same sentence over and over and

915
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.599
<v Speaker 3>over again. And then when Windy comes down and discovers

916
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.800
<v Speaker 3>that he's not actually writing a novel, he's just writing

917
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:30.119
<v Speaker 3>the same sentence, he then gets triggered and tries to

918
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:35.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, kill her, to commit violence against her. But

919
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 3>also this is where Windy picks up the baseball bat.

920
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:43.320
<v Speaker 3>They see the baseball bat that's right beside the teddy Bear.

921
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.920
<v Speaker 3>He gets the baseball bat. So but the baseball bat

922
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 3>changes from where it is in the shots so earlier

923
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.519
<v Speaker 3>in the movie. Well, there's a whenever the doctor comes

924
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.360
<v Speaker 3>to visit Danny in the movie, there's a cartoon character

925
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:07.800
<v Speaker 3>that is holding a baseball bat in the background here

926
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.760
<v Speaker 3>on this curtain, and then also goofy figure. This is

927
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.840
<v Speaker 3>obviously goofy, but people have pointed out that this goofy

928
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:21.639
<v Speaker 3>person is dressed exactly like Wendy. Wendy, Yeah, okay. So

929
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:27.280
<v Speaker 3>then whenever Jack goes to look at the maze, remember

930
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 3>that the really famous scene, whenever he goes to look

931
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 3>at the model of the maze, and then the shot

932
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:37.079
<v Speaker 3>feeds into the shot of Wendy and Danny outside in

933
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.599
<v Speaker 3>the maze. It's one of the most perfect shots of

934
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:45.239
<v Speaker 3>the entire movie. But there's the baseball bat is sitting

935
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:50.400
<v Speaker 3>on the couch downstairs right beside the model of the mates,

936
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:54.039
<v Speaker 3>and then it appears later on right beside the teddy

937
01:01:54.039 --> 01:02:00.840
<v Speaker 3>bear in the fire truck upstairs in their apartment. Then

938
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 3>that's where she picks up the baseball bat off of

939
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:08.559
<v Speaker 3>the couch upstairs in the apartment that she strikes Jack

940
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:12.599
<v Speaker 3>in the head with. This one's interesting. This is a

941
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 3>door that This is all in the same shot. So

942
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:22.880
<v Speaker 3>for people that's just listening, I'm showing photos of what's

943
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.840
<v Speaker 3>going on here, Like the actual photos give you a

944
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 3>good description, but I'm gonna explain it because it's important

945
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:33.440
<v Speaker 3>for you to hear. So this is whenever Danny is

946
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.199
<v Speaker 3>rolling up to room two thirty seven for the first time,

947
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:40.000
<v Speaker 3>there's a door in this right hand corner panel that's shut,

948
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 3>and then it then it cuts to the door of

949
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.159
<v Speaker 3>room two thirty seven, and then when it cuts back

950
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.800
<v Speaker 3>to Danny, the door that same door is now open.

951
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:57.199
<v Speaker 3>The carpus switches patterns when Danny is playing with the

952
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.159
<v Speaker 3>ball and the ball rolls toward Danny, and then the

953
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:04.159
<v Speaker 3>next establishing shot the carpet is different, which people have

954
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:11.719
<v Speaker 3>said that they just moved him over one hexagonal carpet pattern,

955
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 3>which would make sense, but why would you do that? Right?

956
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.800
<v Speaker 3>This is the teddy bear stuff is like setting up

957
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:27.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the teddy bear symbolism. There's also a

958
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:31.800
<v Speaker 3>painting of two Teddy bears within the shining, a lot

959
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 3>of the artwork on the walls within the overlook, there's

960
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.320
<v Speaker 3>teddy bear symbolism. And then in the beginning of the movie,

961
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:42.119
<v Speaker 3>when the doctor is visiting Danny and Wendy in their

962
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.960
<v Speaker 3>apartment in Boulder. Danny is laying on a Teddy Bear.

963
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:48.880
<v Speaker 3>In this bottom quarter panel is what we were just

964
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:51.920
<v Speaker 3>talking about a few minutes ago. When Wendy is traumatized

965
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:56.440
<v Speaker 3>by seeing haller and dead on the ground. She then

966
01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 3>goes upstairs and she sees this man and the other

967
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:03.840
<v Speaker 3>man in the Teddy Beer costume supposedly blowing this student's suit.

968
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Tang is spotted next to other kool Aid bottles. Tang

969
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:18.639
<v Speaker 3>was a very important drink for astronauts during the Apollo missions.

970
01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:21.280
<v Speaker 3>They said that this was the only type of drink

971
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 3>that they could use because of like some kind of

972
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 3>gravity thing or whatever, so they had to they had

973
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.760
<v Speaker 3>to use the Tang mixh.

974
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:39.559
<v Speaker 2>So this is like another clue.

975
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:45.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's another clue. And the Tang is what became

976
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:51.199
<v Speaker 3>super popular after this, after it became the official drink

977
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:54.239
<v Speaker 3>for the astronauts.

978
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Right next to the MK kool Aid.

979
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:58.639
<v Speaker 3>Yep, man, that's got.

980
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:02.800
<v Speaker 2>To be on purpose. That is so crazy.

981
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:06.199
<v Speaker 3>This one is more about the moon landing. Jay Widener

982
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:09.119
<v Speaker 3>has talked about this several times. It's in his Cuber's

983
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.159
<v Speaker 3>Odyssey one and two. Movies that Danny is wearing the

984
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Apollo eleven shirt. He stands up with the carpet potter

985
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.159
<v Speaker 3>and the hexagonal carporate pattern which looks like the launch

986
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.400
<v Speaker 3>pad to Apollo eleven. He then goes in the room

987
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:25.679
<v Speaker 3>two thirty seven. The room was switched to two seventeen

988
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:30.639
<v Speaker 3>in Stephen King's novel, and Cubri changed it the room

989
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:34.800
<v Speaker 3>two thirty seven and two thirty seven was the amount

990
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:39.239
<v Speaker 3>of miles that people thought that the moon was away

991
01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:46.360
<v Speaker 3>from Earth. Definitely on purpose. This this is the Shining

992
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Toy Story reference. They got the same carpet and that

993
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:55.199
<v Speaker 3>they have the Shining carpet in toy story that they

994
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:58.039
<v Speaker 3>have in the Shining and which your toy story is

995
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.719
<v Speaker 3>about a fake astronaut. Mm hmm.

996
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:07.400
<v Speaker 2>And Tom Tom Hanks heeado, Yeah.

997
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Yep, Tom Hanks is Woody. Just a coincidence. Tom Hanks

998
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:12.079
<v Speaker 3>is playing a character named Woody.

999
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, and the Wilson ball I'm telling you that that

1000
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff is definitely not an accident.

1001
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:26.119
<v Speaker 3>And then that print being like a that type of

1002
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 3>print is like synonymous for like pedophilias.

1003
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's so crazy.

1004
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:41.480
<v Speaker 3>It's one of the CIA's one of the things that

1005
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:45.639
<v Speaker 3>they said is like a not a trigger, but like

1006
01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:51.880
<v Speaker 3>a symbolic thing to let people know about pedophilia.

1007
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, Is it like a moniker?

1008
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

1009
01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:56.760
<v Speaker 2>So wild.

1010
01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:00.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the next one is a TV not being

1011
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 3>plugged into anything. Several TVs throughout the movie are not

1012
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:09.639
<v Speaker 3>being shown to be plugged into any outlet TV. No

1013
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:13.920
<v Speaker 3>power source to any of these TVs. Okay, so what

1014
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.639
<v Speaker 3>are they watching? This is an mk ultra program. This

1015
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 3>would be exactly like what Qubrick would put in here

1016
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:23.119
<v Speaker 3>if he did fake the moon landing footage, and that

1017
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:26.599
<v Speaker 3>was because it would be like people are watching nothing

1018
01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:31.519
<v Speaker 3>on their TVs because it's a pre planned, pre filmed

1019
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:36.320
<v Speaker 3>mm hmm, that's what I think anyway.

1020
01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:42.119
<v Speaker 2>It almost makes me wonder if he didn't like put

1021
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:49.679
<v Speaker 2>whatever they're watching on like after like post, you know,

1022
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:53.199
<v Speaker 2>like whatever. They're just staring at blank screens, and then

1023
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:57.840
<v Speaker 2>he chose like this specific scene or this specific talk

1024
01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:01.440
<v Speaker 2>show for them to be watching. Do you think that

1025
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.239
<v Speaker 2>that's significant at all? Like what he chose for them

1026
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:05.079
<v Speaker 2>to be watching.

1027
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:10.679
<v Speaker 3>Some people have found a significance in the movie that's

1028
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:13.519
<v Speaker 3>being played appearing. I think that this is a cooking

1029
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:17.720
<v Speaker 3>show down here in the bottom. But this top movie

1030
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.159
<v Speaker 3>that they're watching here in the top panel is I

1031
01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:25.920
<v Speaker 3>believe the Summer of sixty nine. I think some people

1032
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 3>have put some connections to together for it. This one

1033
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:36.560
<v Speaker 3>is the differences and names of Charles Grady and Delbert Grady.

1034
01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:42.680
<v Speaker 3>So Allman says that his name is Charles Grady, and

1035
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:50.640
<v Speaker 3>then Charles Grady refers to himself as Delbert Grady the Jack. Okay,

1036
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:53.399
<v Speaker 3>So there's not only like connuity errors between like the

1037
01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:58.800
<v Speaker 3>like things appearing, disappearing, things being there and then reappearing then,

1038
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:04.119
<v Speaker 3>but there's all so a lot of dialogue. There's as well,

1039
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:09.279
<v Speaker 3>which I think, uh pass over a lot of people's heads.

1040
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:13.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, in that last one, this one right here,

1041
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I have in my notes and I just wanted to

1042
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:22.159
<v Speaker 2>get your your thoughts on it because the main guy,

1043
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:25.560
<v Speaker 2>the manager guy, he says that there was a caretaker

1044
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:29.560
<v Speaker 2>who had a girl one was eight and one was ten,

1045
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 2>and that he hacked him up with an axe. But

1046
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:39.439
<v Speaker 2>when they're shown they're clearly twins, not one being eight

1047
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.199
<v Speaker 2>and one being ten. So I just wanted to get

1048
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:44.319
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on that too, because I felt like that

1049
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:46.640
<v Speaker 2>was another like why would you mention that one was

1050
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:49.239
<v Speaker 2>eight and one was ten. But then when you show

1051
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:52.319
<v Speaker 2>them they're identical twins, and then you have like that

1052
01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:55.479
<v Speaker 2>monarch poster in the background on the first siding of

1053
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the twins and stuff, It's like, what really, why put

1054
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.760
<v Speaker 2>that in and then show twins? You know what I mean?

1055
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what we were going to put together in

1056
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:09.600
<v Speaker 3>the We had to cut a few things out because one,

1057
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:13.560
<v Speaker 3>we didn't want this movie to be super ridiculously long.

1058
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if people have ever edited a almost

1059
01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:22.920
<v Speaker 3>two hour long movie. It becomes a.

1060
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Pain daunting, Yeah, I'm sure.

1061
01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Daunting, Like there's times I just wanted to bang my

1062
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:29.720
<v Speaker 3>head up against the freaking war, I'm sure. But we

1063
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:32.720
<v Speaker 3>had a whole section in there that ended up getting

1064
01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:39.920
<v Speaker 3>acts because Almond does say that they were eight and ten, right,

1065
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:44.000
<v Speaker 3>And we had a whole section that was about the

1066
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:51.399
<v Speaker 3>experimentations that the Nazis were doing on twins, and we

1067
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:54.239
<v Speaker 3>were going to connect a bunch of things to the

1068
01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:58.279
<v Speaker 3>twins within the movie. But then we felt like that

1069
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:02.520
<v Speaker 3>people had come at us because they would say, well,

1070
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:04.760
<v Speaker 3>they're not really twins, and then that would just discount

1071
01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.279
<v Speaker 3>the entire you know, ten minutes that we had on

1072
01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 3>all the twins stuff.

1073
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:12.039
<v Speaker 2>But they were twins like that, Like you could tell

1074
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:13.479
<v Speaker 2>that's what he was going for.

1075
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:19.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, yes, it is odd, it is really odd.

1076
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:27.439
<v Speaker 3>It was it was Hitler's right hand man, blinking.

1077
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:29.800
<v Speaker 2>On his name right now, But he was Mangola.

1078
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Joseph Manglo. Yes, Joseph Mangola was responsible for a lot

1079
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:42.079
<v Speaker 3>of the early mind control operations that Nazi Germany was doing,

1080
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:47.720
<v Speaker 3>and he was doing a lot of experimentation on twins.

1081
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:51.479
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there also like a Project Gem and I or

1082
01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:54.720
<v Speaker 2>something like that too, That kind of like went along

1083
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 2>with Monarch because when the first siding, when Danny sees

1084
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the first of the twins, it's like the twins standing there,

1085
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.079
<v Speaker 2>identical dress, everything, and then in the background is like

1086
01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:09.479
<v Speaker 2>the Monarch poster on the wall, and it almost makes

1087
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:14.119
<v Speaker 2>you think, like Jim and I twins Monarch, Like there's

1088
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:16.880
<v Speaker 2>so much going on just in that one little flash

1089
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:20.319
<v Speaker 2>of a scene, and if you're not paying attention, you'd

1090
01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:20.760
<v Speaker 2>never know.

1091
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.680
<v Speaker 3>But then Olman, when he's talking.

1092
01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:26.920
<v Speaker 2>About Grady or whatever, he says that they were just

1093
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:31.680
<v Speaker 2>sisters eight and ten. So Stanley Kuber definitely is trying

1094
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:35.880
<v Speaker 2>to say something with just visual work of the of

1095
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:40.159
<v Speaker 2>the twins too, in my opinion at least, and not

1096
01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:43.439
<v Speaker 2>only don't there's two of them that makes eleven there's

1097
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:47.720
<v Speaker 2>eleven symbolism? All oh right, right, yeah, yeah, I remember

1098
01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:50.720
<v Speaker 2>you mentioning that all the doors.

1099
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Are double doors elevens. You have the candle orders in

1100
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the like around the hotel that looked like eleven's, the

1101
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:07.560
<v Speaker 3>lights hanging from the walls looked like there's just eleven

1102
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:13.079
<v Speaker 3>twin type symbolism throughout the entire movie. And then when

1103
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:15.319
<v Speaker 3>you think of, okay, well, why is all this like

1104
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:19.680
<v Speaker 3>point eleven stuff in there? Then if you look at

1105
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 3>like this might be a stretch. But some people believe

1106
01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:29.520
<v Speaker 3>that Hubert didn't actually die, that he like faked his

1107
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:34.159
<v Speaker 3>us so that he could work for the intelligence world

1108
01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:41.439
<v Speaker 3>and the military as like a deep black budget filmmaker. Wow, okay,

1109
01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:49.840
<v Speaker 3>so damn what better person could you think of to

1110
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:58.000
<v Speaker 3>completely fake something that probably faked something before with the

1111
01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:05.119
<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty nine moon landing footage. Did you do something

1112
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:06.399
<v Speaker 3>like that with nine to eleven?

1113
01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Damn? Man, Stanley Kubrick is one of the deepest Pandora's box.

1114
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:19.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is just why I mean, I feel

1115
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:24.119
<v Speaker 2>like not the entire story is being told with eyes

1116
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:29.279
<v Speaker 2>white shut and then him dying shortly afterwards. Was he repurposed?

1117
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that could be very likely, because maybe they

1118
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:39.319
<v Speaker 2>were mad at him for whatever that he was trying

1119
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:41.680
<v Speaker 2>to say with Iye white shut? Were they mad enough

1120
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:46.439
<v Speaker 2>at him to kill him? I don't know. I don't

1121
01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:48.640
<v Speaker 2>think he'd died of a heart attack, that's for damn sure.

1122
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. They don't normally.

1123
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Kill asense, right, That's what I'm saying. It's like, so

1124
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:05.439
<v Speaker 2>what he made this movie Eyes Wide Shot? Like, did

1125
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:07.239
<v Speaker 2>you do you really think it was so bad that

1126
01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:09.199
<v Speaker 2>they should that they would have killed him?

1127
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I mean, And then there's also the

1128
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:20.199
<v Speaker 3>thought and their idea that he could have had a

1129
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.640
<v Speaker 3>heart attack. But it is really suspicious how soon it

1130
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:29.560
<v Speaker 3>was after he showed as Wide Shot to the producers

1131
01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 3>and the actors, they had like a private screening, and

1132
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:36.119
<v Speaker 3>then like six days later he's dead. It's pretty right.

1133
01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:40.479
<v Speaker 3>Then they supposedly recut the film. Mm hmmm mm hm.

1134
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.920
<v Speaker 3>The only people that would be able to know if

1135
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.760
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't the original film that they saw would be

1136
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:55.760
<v Speaker 3>like Nicole Kidman, Tom Cruise and the.

1137
01:15:55.800 --> 01:16:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Executives and their scientologists slash a oltists. They're definitely not

1138
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna say anything, right, but you know, okay, so.

1139
01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:08.520
<v Speaker 3>That's even if they would remember, because you know how

1140
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.520
<v Speaker 3>like you're just watch a movie one time there is

1141
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:14.800
<v Speaker 3>there for a party or whatever. I would like to

1142
01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:16.359
<v Speaker 3>talk to I would like to talk to Tom Cruise.

1143
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:21.119
<v Speaker 3>I would definitely talk to Tom Cruise. There's a footage

1144
01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:24.199
<v Speaker 3>of him of Tom Cruise being interviewed about Stanley Kubrick

1145
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:29.479
<v Speaker 3>and he's like crying, Wow, there's weird. There's weird stuff

1146
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:32.880
<v Speaker 3>about Tom Cruise and Stanley Kubrick as well. Apparently, whenever

1147
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Kubrick was filming Eyes White Shot, the movie went on

1148
01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:41.000
<v Speaker 3>for way longer or it was ever intended, like Tom

1149
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Cruise had to turn down several projects just to continue

1150
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:47.760
<v Speaker 3>to work with Stanley Kubrick on Eyes White Shot. But

1151
01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:55.920
<v Speaker 3>reportedly there was a day of filming that Kubrick made

1152
01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise put on a dress and come out on

1153
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:14.199
<v Speaker 3>set to be berated by everybody. What literally, But then

1154
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:19.560
<v Speaker 3>when you get into the all the dress stuff, you

1155
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:24.319
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, God, good actors that are you know,

1156
01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:27.039
<v Speaker 3>made to wear dresses?

1157
01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:31.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh one hundred is the dress ritual?

1158
01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1159
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:36.800
<v Speaker 2>The humiliation and the Okay, okay, let me get your

1160
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on this, because I want to kind of tie

1161
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:45.640
<v Speaker 2>it in with this scene here when Jack goes for

1162
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:51.800
<v Speaker 2>the interview. This was definitely in your documentary. Almond mentions

1163
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:54.520
<v Speaker 2>the people in Denver several times, but we don't know

1164
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:56.960
<v Speaker 2>who the fuck he's talking about. They'd never specify who

1165
01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:04.279
<v Speaker 2>who are the people in Denver? And I find it

1166
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:10.000
<v Speaker 2>interesting that he filmed Eyes Wide Shut in Colorado. I

1167
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:17.239
<v Speaker 2>believe it was near Denver. And then Dave McGowan wrote

1168
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:20.479
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff about how when the Wonderland pedophilia raids

1169
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:23.600
<v Speaker 2>broke through, a lot of people had pictures of John

1170
01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Benet Ramsey like on, like naked pictures of her and

1171
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:32.119
<v Speaker 2>weird stuff like that, and she was from Colorado as well,

1172
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:36.520
<v Speaker 2>so and in Program to Kill he mentions how there

1173
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:42.439
<v Speaker 2>are these elitist people Eyes Wide Shutters, living in Colorado, Denver,

1174
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Boulder area, that they're all involved in this stuff. And

1175
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I find it interesting that the Shining Eyes Wide Shut,

1176
01:18:55.920 --> 01:19:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the Wonderland raids, the Eyes Wide Shut parties and stuff

1177
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:06.479
<v Speaker 2>like that, we're all are all kind of connected. And

1178
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:10.079
<v Speaker 2>there's like the weird pageant queen that dies in eyes

1179
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:13.399
<v Speaker 2>wide shut and Jaban A. Ramsey was like a little

1180
01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:16.520
<v Speaker 2>pageant queen or whatever. But it's almost like he's he.

1181
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Everything is so layered with like ritualism. I guess you

1182
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:28.039
<v Speaker 2>would say, like, what actually is going on with this stuff?

1183
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, Colorado has been known to be heavily intelligence, like

1184
01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:44.119
<v Speaker 3>especially Denver. I'm pretty sure Denver has a CIA headquarters

1185
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:51.479
<v Speaker 3>m currently, and a lot of colts come out of Colorado.

1186
01:19:53.560 --> 01:20:04.920
<v Speaker 3>All of Stephen King's novels is basically based out of Colorado. Colorado.

1187
01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:09.439
<v Speaker 2>To me, it's like they're telling you without telling you,

1188
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:11.239
<v Speaker 2>but I just wanted to.

1189
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:14.159
<v Speaker 3>It's supposedly supposed to be set up as like the

1190
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:18.760
<v Speaker 3>New World Order headquarters. That's where That's why everybody wants

1191
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:23.239
<v Speaker 3>to go to Colorado. That's why they love. Why everybody

1192
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:27.079
<v Speaker 3>in California is like, go to Colorado. That's why all

1193
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:31.840
<v Speaker 3>the colorado Ons are pissed off at Whenever people come

1194
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:34.000
<v Speaker 3>in and they have a California idea or they have

1195
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:37.680
<v Speaker 3>California tags on their car, They're like, what, get the

1196
01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:44.000
<v Speaker 3>fuck out of here. But everybody, everybody looks that lives

1197
01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:48.640
<v Speaker 3>and has been born and raised in California. Look at

1198
01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:54.119
<v Speaker 3>Colorado as California. Like other people that's not born in

1199
01:20:54.199 --> 01:21:00.560
<v Speaker 3>California look at California. Mm hmmm, well that are born

1200
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:03.079
<v Speaker 3>in other states, they look at like California as like

1201
01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:07.039
<v Speaker 3>the I'm not everyone, but most people look at California

1202
01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:11.039
<v Speaker 3>as like the pinnacle, like that's where you want to live.

1203
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Well in California look at Colorado as the pinnacle, like

1204
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I've I lived in Colorado for around three years and

1205
01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.359
<v Speaker 3>then I moved back to California. So I had lived

1206
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:28.720
<v Speaker 3>in California for about five years, moved to Colorado, lived

1207
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:31.800
<v Speaker 3>there for about three and then moved back to California.

1208
01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:36.600
<v Speaker 3>And then when a new city in a new area

1209
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:40.760
<v Speaker 3>more north than where I was in southern California before,

1210
01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:44.960
<v Speaker 3>and whenever people ask me like, oh, well, where are

1211
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you from? And I normally just say, you know, I'm

1212
01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:51.880
<v Speaker 3>from Call. Because I just recently moved back to California,

1213
01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:55.439
<v Speaker 3>I normally don't say all I'm lived in California before

1214
01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:58.119
<v Speaker 3>and I'm just back here again, and because we just

1215
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:01.600
<v Speaker 3>recently came from Call, Colorado, And then they're like, oh, well,

1216
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:04.880
<v Speaker 3>why did you decide to move to California. Wouldn't have

1217
01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:10.520
<v Speaker 3>done that? So they look at like, I would never

1218
01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:15.880
<v Speaker 3>have left Colorado. So it's like they all look at

1219
01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Colorado as like this great, amazing right that is going

1220
01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:25.640
<v Speaker 3>to be set up as like the essentially New World

1221
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Order headquarters. So people have been talking about for a

1222
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:32.800
<v Speaker 3>really long time that they moved everything to Colorado.

1223
01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I would agree with you with that because it's like

1224
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:40.239
<v Speaker 2>after the Laurel Canyon stuff and like all the weirdness

1225
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.960
<v Speaker 2>came up out of California, it did seem to kind

1226
01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:47.640
<v Speaker 2>of shift over. And then it was like in the

1227
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:50.760
<v Speaker 2>nineties with like the Wonderland raids and stuff like what

1228
01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:54.199
<v Speaker 2>David McGowan was writing about. All that stuff was coming

1229
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:57.720
<v Speaker 2>up out of Colorado. So those two places are like

1230
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>the the centers for a lot of this.

1231
01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:09.279
<v Speaker 3>And think about it. Colorado is landlocked, Okay, the coasts

1232
01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:15.960
<v Speaker 3>aren't safe states to be in. If if another country attacks,

1233
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:19.319
<v Speaker 3>then they're going to hit the coast. They're not going

1234
01:23:19.399 --> 01:23:22.920
<v Speaker 3>to be able to hit the freaking center of the

1235
01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:27.880
<v Speaker 3>United States, right, Yeah, they're going to come on boats.

1236
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Then they're gonna hit one of the coasts. They're going

1237
01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:44.800
<v Speaker 3>to be the coast for the West Coast, so Washington, Oregon, California, Florida, Oregon, Florida, uh,

1238
01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:51.399
<v Speaker 3>North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia. Right, that's where the attacks

1239
01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:55.159
<v Speaker 3>are going to come from. So they used to be

1240
01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:57.920
<v Speaker 3>more on like the East coast was like their hide

1241
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:01.720
<v Speaker 3>out in their you know, where they planned all of

1242
01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:08.960
<v Speaker 3>their operations, unlike the east, like northeast. But I think

1243
01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:11.720
<v Speaker 3>that they have switched it and they have just gone

1244
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:17.720
<v Speaker 3>to the pretty much the Midwest. They're right in the center,

1245
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:22.039
<v Speaker 3>because that would also say from you'd be safe from

1246
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:24.800
<v Speaker 3>any kind of cataclysm, like if there was a giant tsunami,

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01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:30.359
<v Speaker 3>you'd be safe in Colorado. There's there's actually a CIA document.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've read it. It's called the

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01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:37.399
<v Speaker 3>it's called Adam and Eve. It's called the Adam and

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01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Eve Story, and it's a document that talks about that

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01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:45.479
<v Speaker 3>there is going to be a giant cataclysm that's going

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01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.840
<v Speaker 3>to come this basically going to eradicate the entire population.

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01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:54.800
<v Speaker 3>They don't know when it's going to be, but when

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01:24:54.840 --> 01:25:01.920
<v Speaker 3>it happens, the only place in North America that you

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01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:06.119
<v Speaker 3>could go to survive it is the Rocky Mountains.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yep, oh, okay, that makes a lot of sense.

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01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so they're predicting like John Cusack twenty twelve movie,

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01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:22.479
<v Speaker 2>but like in real life.

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01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there, it's a legitimate, legitimate it's the IA documents

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01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:32.840
<v Speaker 3>on the CIA website. I think it's called this is

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01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:36.640
<v Speaker 3>trying to pop this up on my other screen here,

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01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:40.479
<v Speaker 3>but it's called the Adam and Eve. Let me get

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01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:42.880
<v Speaker 3>out of this. We'll come back to that in a minute. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let me google real quick, Adam and Eve, the AA

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01:25:52.439 --> 01:25:57.119
<v Speaker 3>docy Adam and Eve story. Yep, this is it.

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01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And what a name to how cryptic?

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01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I want to get rid of this. Okay.

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01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:11.159
<v Speaker 3>So Adam and Eves Story by Chan Thomas. It's a

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01:26:11.279 --> 01:26:17.560
<v Speaker 3>declassified CIA document on the CIA website. It's a pretty

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01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:19.920
<v Speaker 3>long document. There's a lot of pages to it. There's

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01:26:21.399 --> 01:26:24.640
<v Speaker 3>fifty seven pages. But it gives you like a timeline

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01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:29.840
<v Speaker 3>of like all of the great supposed catastrophes in the

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01:26:29.880 --> 01:26:34.079
<v Speaker 3>past and then that we are going to experience a

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01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:40.000
<v Speaker 3>here's the contents, the next cataclysm, the great flood, the story,

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01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:46.840
<v Speaker 3>the event, genesis, and the conclusion. It's very fascinating. Wow,

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01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:52.399
<v Speaker 3>does that Noah's Flood happened six thousand and five hundred

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01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:58.159
<v Speaker 3>years ago? There was another flood like Adam and Eve's

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01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:03.039
<v Speaker 3>flood that happened eleventh and five hundred years ago. So

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01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:05.199
<v Speaker 3>it seems like it's kind of working in like five

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01:27:05.319 --> 01:27:09.399
<v Speaker 3>thousand to six thousand year cycles, right, So.

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01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:11.159
<v Speaker 2>We're it's like we're due for one.

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01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fuck, let me see, Okay. So within three hours

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01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:26.880
<v Speaker 3>of the fantastic wall of water moves across the continent,

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01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:30.920
<v Speaker 3>burying wind, ravage land under two miles of seething water

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01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:36.399
<v Speaker 3>coast to coast in the all vicinities of civilizations are gone.

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01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:41.359
<v Speaker 3>The great cities Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Donallas, New

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01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:44.479
<v Speaker 3>York are nothing but legends. Barely a stone is left

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01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:47.920
<v Speaker 3>for millions walk just a few hours before a few

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01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:51.279
<v Speaker 3>lucky ones who managed to find shelter from the screaming

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01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:55.640
<v Speaker 3>wind and lee landslide of Pike's Peak, which the sea

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01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:59.439
<v Speaker 3>is molten fire, break through the quaking valleys below. The

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01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:02.479
<v Speaker 3>raging waters flow, appealing higher and higher, streaming over the

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01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:07.800
<v Speaker 3>moulten earth fire and rising almost to their feet. Only

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01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:12.439
<v Speaker 3>great mountains such as this can withstand the cataclysmic onslaught.

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01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:16.279
<v Speaker 3>The North America is not alone in her death throws.

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01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Central America suffers the same concaid wind, earth and fire.

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01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:25.760
<v Speaker 3>South America finds the andes not high enough to stop

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01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:28.960
<v Speaker 3>the cataclysmic violence pounded out by the nature of her

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01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:33.920
<v Speaker 3>berserk Rage. In less than a day, Alsavador, Peru and

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01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Western Brazil are shaken madly by the devastating earthquake, burned

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01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>by molten earthfire, buried under a two big miles of

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01:28:41.840 --> 01:28:47.119
<v Speaker 3>Pacific seas and turned into a frozen hell. Everything freezes, man, beast, plant, mud,

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01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:50.319
<v Speaker 3>all rock hard in less than four hours. They're talking

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01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:54.560
<v Speaker 3>about a very big, giant cataclysm that within the matter

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01:28:54.600 --> 01:29:01.279
<v Speaker 3>of hours everything is just completely destroyed Western Africa, Siberia.

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01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:05.239
<v Speaker 3>The earth is left unfrozen in the entire Eastern Asian continent,

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01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:07.800
<v Speaker 3>most of which remains below sea level east of the

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01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Royals in Western Siberia. A few lucky people survive the

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01:29:11.079 --> 01:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>fantastic winds and quakes. Antarctica and Greenland, with their ice

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01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:19.079
<v Speaker 3>caps now rotate around the Earth into the tory Roid zone.

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01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>The Fury of the Winding Foundation match for six days

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01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:24.239
<v Speaker 3>and nights. Six days and knights. This is supposed to

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01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>go on. During the sixth day, the ocean starts to

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01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.199
<v Speaker 3>settle and the new homes running off of high grounds.

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01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>The seventh day, horrendous rampages over the Arctic ice is

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01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:36.600
<v Speaker 3>ended and a new stone age begins. So this is

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01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:41.920
<v Speaker 3>basically a let's make reset that is predicted in the future. Okay,

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01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>so have deep layer existing over the Great Plains and

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01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:51.560
<v Speaker 3>exposed in the Grand Canyon, painted desert and bad lands.

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01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:54.720
<v Speaker 3>The Bay of the Basin in the east of India

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01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:56.920
<v Speaker 3>is now the North Pole. So this is like a

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01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:04.199
<v Speaker 3>big like a tectonic plate shift, like a huge thing

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01:30:04.239 --> 01:30:08.239
<v Speaker 3>that kicks off these big natural disasters. I'm just trying

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01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:12.079
<v Speaker 3>to find where it says the safe places to be where.

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01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>But it was like the Rocky mountains and then like

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01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:24.000
<v Speaker 3>the part of the mountains and the springs like Colorado Springs. Wow,

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01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:26.079
<v Speaker 3>but it's in this document. I don't want to waste

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01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:29.279
<v Speaker 3>too much time on it. But that's just a part

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01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:32.840
<v Speaker 3>of the whole thing. They I think that they believe

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01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:36.119
<v Speaker 3>that Colorado is going to be like a safe haven

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01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:40.800
<v Speaker 3>for not only cataclysmic disaster, but they can set up

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01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:48.159
<v Speaker 3>their operations here as well. That's horrific. Yeah, I would

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01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:50.920
<v Speaker 3>recommend looking at that document that Adam and you story.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you scared?

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01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:55.000
<v Speaker 3>No, because I don't think it's going to be for

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01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:55.760
<v Speaker 3>a really long time.

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01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I think, like really, like if you had if you

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01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>had a ballpark it are we going to old or

1339
01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>are we gonna be young enough to suffer?

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01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:09.279
<v Speaker 3>I think I'll be way dead and gone by the

1341
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:14.479
<v Speaker 3>time anything, really, but I might be back. I mean,

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01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:18.840
<v Speaker 3>if reincarnation's real, we're probably all going to be, right.

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01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean if I'm like in a nursing

1344
01:31:22.199 --> 01:31:25.039
<v Speaker 2>home and I have Alzheimer's, who cares, right, But if

1345
01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:29.119
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be in like ten years, twenty years, that's

1346
01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:33.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna suck. I don't want to be in the apocalypse.

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01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:36.880
<v Speaker 3>No, it won't be Okay, This next one is a

1348
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:41.119
<v Speaker 3>really crazy connuity are that a lot of people don't

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01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:45.039
<v Speaker 3>even catch. I didn't even catch this one. This one's

1350
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:48.880
<v Speaker 3>really important though. Okay. So, when Hollerin is giving a

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01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:54.039
<v Speaker 3>tour to the UH to Danny and Wendy, the first

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01:31:54.039 --> 01:31:56.319
<v Speaker 3>door that he opens before the storage room is the

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01:31:56.359 --> 01:32:00.520
<v Speaker 3>freezer room. Right. He opens the freezer and he says,

1354
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:03.439
<v Speaker 3>this is the freezer room. This is where we keep

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01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:06.359
<v Speaker 3>the He asks Danny if he likes pork or something

1356
01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:11.439
<v Speaker 3>like that, or chicken and uh. When he opens the door,

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01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:14.800
<v Speaker 3>you can see on this top quarter panel on the left,

1358
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:20.039
<v Speaker 3>the handle is on the right side of the door. Okay,

1359
01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:23.319
<v Speaker 3>and they enter into the freezer room. This is the

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01:32:23.359 --> 01:32:26.159
<v Speaker 3>next quarter panel at the bottom of the screen is

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01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:31.880
<v Speaker 3>when they exit the freezer room. The handle to the

1362
01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:38.720
<v Speaker 3>door is on the opposite side of the freezer room door.

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01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:42.800
<v Speaker 3>And the background is a completely different background.

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01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:48.720
<v Speaker 5>Dude, that's not even the same location. And we never noticed,

1365
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:58.760
<v Speaker 5>never noticed. Why that is a fucking mind blower.

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01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:03.399
<v Speaker 3>And what's really interesting about this one is that people

1367
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:07.800
<v Speaker 3>will claim that he just shot it from the other side. No,

1368
01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:10.600
<v Speaker 3>but even if you shot it from the other side,

1369
01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:15.560
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't change the side that of the.

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01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:28.840
<v Speaker 6>Door handle, right, Oh my god, Yep, that's not even

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01:33:28.920 --> 01:33:29.920
<v Speaker 6>the same room.

1372
01:33:31.600 --> 01:33:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Nope, completely different room. Whenever they walk in, it has

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01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:37.439
<v Speaker 3>the kitchen in the background. Whenever they walk out, it's like,

1374
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a completely different thing. You have these

1375
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:45.319
<v Speaker 3>dishes and these these utensils and everything. Whenever they first

1376
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.359
<v Speaker 3>go in, you can see the background of the kitchen.

1377
01:33:47.439 --> 01:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>You can see the ventilation system that's above the stove there.

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01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:55.239
<v Speaker 3>You have a chalkboard in the background. When they walk out,

1379
01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:58.560
<v Speaker 3>the whole background is different. There's these two double wide doors,

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01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:02.960
<v Speaker 3>which is the oven doors here the eleven symbolism of

1381
01:34:03.079 --> 01:34:06.079
<v Speaker 3>the door. You have like some kind of switchboard here

1382
01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:09.720
<v Speaker 3>on the right, the chalk board is completely gone. You

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01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:13.159
<v Speaker 3>have to You have a fire alarm and then a

1384
01:34:13.159 --> 01:34:17.479
<v Speaker 3>fire alarm bell above it, and two windows. But why

1385
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:18.640
<v Speaker 3>it rider?

1386
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:24.239
<v Speaker 2>If Stanley is a perfectionist, which we know that he was,

1387
01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:27.479
<v Speaker 2>why did he do this?

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01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:36.319
<v Speaker 3>I believe that he did this to make the viewer

1389
01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:43.000
<v Speaker 3>start to question their reality subconsciously, unknowingly, just lag Jack

1390
01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:48.399
<v Speaker 3>is starting to question his reality within the movie. So

1391
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:52.119
<v Speaker 3>you feel like that you're going down this downward spiral,

1392
01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:55.199
<v Speaker 3>and you don't really know why you're going down this

1393
01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:59.560
<v Speaker 3>downward spiral because it's a subconscious layering to the movie.

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01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:04.319
<v Speaker 2>But that's that transcendence I was talking about. Every time

1395
01:35:04.399 --> 01:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I watch it, that's how I feel.

1396
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:12.760
<v Speaker 3>So it's affecting your subconscious mind to get you on

1397
01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:17.239
<v Speaker 3>the same page as Jack as he's going through his

1398
01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:24.000
<v Speaker 3>delusions and essentially going crazy by the CIA operation to

1399
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:26.159
<v Speaker 3>try and get him to kill his family. But you

1400
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:30.479
<v Speaker 3>don't know why because you don't pick up these things

1401
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:35.640
<v Speaker 3>on the first view or even through the twentieth of view,

1402
01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:38.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe even the fiftieth view. You're not going to see

1403
01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:43.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of this stuff, okay, but you get an uneasy.

1404
01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:49.159
<v Speaker 7>Feeling when you're definitely and that is the reason why,

1405
01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:56.840
<v Speaker 7>because he's subconsciously training your mind to go to take

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01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:58.239
<v Speaker 7>this journey.

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01:35:59.399 --> 01:36:02.479
<v Speaker 3>Along with the characters in the movie.

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01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow, and that and there's the proof right there.

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01:36:07.920 --> 01:36:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's too much. It is insanity. So this

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01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:24.359
<v Speaker 3>is the Beatles Connections to abbey Road. The top photo

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01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:30.640
<v Speaker 3>is of the Beatles Abbey Road album cover and this

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01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:37.600
<v Speaker 3>is Almond, Wendy Jack, and Bill Watson, which was Allman's assistant,

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01:36:38.439 --> 01:36:41.279
<v Speaker 3>which we didn't really get too much into Bill Watson

1414
01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:45.359
<v Speaker 3>in the documentary. We had a lot more things on

1415
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Bill Watson. We might end up doing a like a

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01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:51.439
<v Speaker 3>director's cut of this movie and including a lot more

1417
01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:54.880
<v Speaker 3>stuff in it. But we had this whole section on

1418
01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Bill Watson and how we related him to Sydney Gottlieb,

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01:36:58.199 --> 01:37:02.239
<v Speaker 3>which was head of the MK Ultra programs. They even

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01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:06.680
<v Speaker 3>look similar, but it was difficult to do because very

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01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:12.800
<v Speaker 3>few photos exist of Sydney Gottlieb out there, but they

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01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:18.680
<v Speaker 3>looked strikingly similar. And then the Beatle, this white beetle

1423
01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:22.279
<v Speaker 3>that's in the background of the Abbey Road photo. So

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01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>in Stephen King's novel, the beetle is a red beetle,

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01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:32.680
<v Speaker 3>but the beatle that the Volkswagen beetle that Jack drives

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01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:35.119
<v Speaker 3>in the shining is a yellow beetle. And then when

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01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Allman is driving up to the Overlook hotel whenever he

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01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:43.199
<v Speaker 3>flies in from Florida, which is another really strange I

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01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:45.560
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it's a connuity error or a dialogue

1430
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:49.239
<v Speaker 3>era story or writing error. But if you remember when

1431
01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Hallerin is lean in the hotel room in Florida for

1432
01:37:55.279 --> 01:38:00.600
<v Speaker 3>his vacation, the news said that the weather is so

1433
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:04.000
<v Speaker 3>bad that all flights had been canceled, but somehow he

1434
01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:05.880
<v Speaker 3>got a flight into.

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01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Called oh shit, I never caught that, Oh my god.

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01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:20.000
<v Speaker 3>So then whenever he's trying to the overlook, there's the

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01:38:20.119 --> 01:38:25.079
<v Speaker 3>red Volkswagen beetle that had been crushed underneath a semi

1438
01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:30.359
<v Speaker 3>which many have described this as being a stab at

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01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Stephen King by Stanley Kubrick, like, you know, this is

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01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:37.560
<v Speaker 3>this is him showing him that you know, you didn't

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01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:41.000
<v Speaker 3>write this. I wrote this. I'm the man. You might

1442
01:38:41.079 --> 01:38:44.720
<v Speaker 3>be a good author, you might sell millions of copies

1443
01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:47.479
<v Speaker 3>of your books. But I'm a filmmaker and this is

1444
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:49.800
<v Speaker 3>a film, and I'm going to do what I want

1445
01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:50.600
<v Speaker 3>with this film.

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01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:53.119
<v Speaker 2>It's like a like a fuck you.

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01:38:54.640 --> 01:38:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Yep. Wow, that is so crazy. So you got the

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01:38:59.840 --> 01:39:05.760
<v Speaker 3>bele yet Stephen King's beetle being changed from a red

1449
01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:07.840
<v Speaker 3>budle to a yellow beetle. You have the beatle in

1450
01:39:07.880 --> 01:39:09.920
<v Speaker 3>the background of the Abbey Road photo. Then you have

1451
01:39:10.119 --> 01:39:13.359
<v Speaker 3>them looking like that they are and this is John

1452
01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Lennon's uh beatle in the background. Really yep. And then

1453
01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:27.000
<v Speaker 3>you have them looking like this doing the exact same

1454
01:39:27.399 --> 01:39:35.079
<v Speaker 3>walk as the Abbey Road photo. And Stephen King was

1455
01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:40.319
<v Speaker 3>inspired the name the book The Shining based off of

1456
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:43.880
<v Speaker 3>a John Lennon song, Instant Karma.

1457
01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:51.399
<v Speaker 2>What you didn't put that in the documentary, did you?

1458
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:51.640
<v Speaker 3>No?

1459
01:39:52.399 --> 01:39:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say that is Oh, you gotta do

1460
01:39:55.640 --> 01:40:01.199
<v Speaker 2>a director's cut. This stuff is too good. That is wild.

1461
01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:10.119
<v Speaker 3>We all shine on? Uh huh? How the song Instant

1462
01:40:10.199 --> 01:40:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Karma goes? And Stephen King got that inspiration to call

1463
01:40:13.960 --> 01:40:16.720
<v Speaker 3>the novel The Shining based off of that John Lennon song.

1464
01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>And was it the original script like that they gave

1465
01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:25.439
<v Speaker 2>or like Kubrick, was they basically said hey, you're gonna

1466
01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:29.560
<v Speaker 2>make this movie because he turned down The Exorcist, and

1467
01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:31.319
<v Speaker 2>they were like, well, you're gonna do this one. And

1468
01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:33.680
<v Speaker 2>it was called The Shine.

1469
01:40:34.319 --> 01:40:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that was the original because Warner Brothers got

1470
01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:45.159
<v Speaker 3>a pre published copy of The Shining and it was

1471
01:40:45.239 --> 01:40:51.119
<v Speaker 3>titled The Shine. That was the original title for Stephen

1472
01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:54.640
<v Speaker 3>King's novel. And when we and we show that in

1473
01:40:54.720 --> 01:41:00.359
<v Speaker 3>the movie, the the pre published copy is The Shining

1474
01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:04.399
<v Speaker 3>by Stephen King. Okay, so then he changed it to

1475
01:41:06.119 --> 01:41:12.680
<v Speaker 3>The Shining. Okay, so that's all the Beatles. The Beatles

1476
01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:15.520
<v Speaker 3>thing is insane. But I don't know if I have

1477
01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:20.319
<v Speaker 3>the slide in here or not. I'm I don't think

1478
01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:25.119
<v Speaker 3>that I do, which is a shame. But shit, I

1479
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:26.840
<v Speaker 3>can't believe I didn't put this one in here.

1480
01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Is it a Beatles thing?

1481
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a Beatles thing. So Kubrick was asked to

1482
01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:44.359
<v Speaker 3>direct J. R. R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings movie,

1483
01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:52.760
<v Speaker 3>and this was supposed to be like the Beatles were

1484
01:41:52.760 --> 01:42:02.680
<v Speaker 3>going to be all the Hobbits. What yeah, oh stop it.

1485
01:42:05.079 --> 01:42:09.159
<v Speaker 3>So ultimately Stanley Kubrick turned it down because he said

1486
01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:15.000
<v Speaker 3>that the technology wasn't right at the time. They didn't

1487
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.600
<v Speaker 3>have the technology to do it, and then it you

1488
01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:20.960
<v Speaker 3>know later on. Peter Jackson then picked it up and

1489
01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:27.560
<v Speaker 3>directed the Lord of the Rings movie, but Stanley Kubrick

1490
01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:31.720
<v Speaker 3>was in talks with the Beatles and with J. R.

1491
01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Tolkien to direct the Lord of the Rings movies with

1492
01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:39.239
<v Speaker 3>the Beatles acting as the Hobbits and the Lord of

1493
01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:40.000
<v Speaker 3>the Rings movies.

1494
01:42:40.680 --> 01:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>So Laurel Canyon meets Tavis Stock and they fucking have

1495
01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>a Lord of the Rings baby. Oh my god. Can

1496
01:42:49.880 --> 01:42:52.920
<v Speaker 2>you imagine right or what that would have been like?

1497
01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:58.359
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep. I don't know where that slide is. I

1498
01:42:58.399 --> 01:43:02.359
<v Speaker 3>think it's in here somewhere. But that's what this slide

1499
01:43:02.439 --> 01:43:09.520
<v Speaker 3>is about, is Kubrick was being, uh, it's in here somewhere.

1500
01:43:09.640 --> 01:43:10.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where it is.

1501
01:43:10.600 --> 01:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>But can you imagine even what The Exorcist would have

1502
01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:16.439
<v Speaker 2>been like if it was a Kubrick film. I mean,

1503
01:43:16.479 --> 01:43:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I love The Exorcist as it is. I mean, I

1504
01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:23.159
<v Speaker 2>think freakin nailed it, crushed it. It's going to be

1505
01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:28.600
<v Speaker 2>an eternal movie. But I do wonder what it would

1506
01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:32.800
<v Speaker 2>have been like as a Kubrick film because his mind

1507
01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:35.119
<v Speaker 2>just works so differently.

1508
01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:38.239
<v Speaker 3>It probably would not have gone over well because he

1509
01:43:38.239 --> 01:43:47.119
<v Speaker 3>would have made it very practical and not be supernaturally. Yeah,

1510
01:43:47.319 --> 01:43:54.399
<v Speaker 3>freaking dead with it because Kubrick didn't believe in the paranormal.

1511
01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's there's an interview with Stephen King talking

1512
01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:00.880
<v Speaker 3>about how Cubric would call him up like three am

1513
01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:04.600
<v Speaker 3>or like in the morning and be like, hey, do

1514
01:44:04.640 --> 01:44:05.560
<v Speaker 3>you believe in God?

1515
01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god? Can you imagine? No wonder? Stephen King

1516
01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:15.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, fuck this guy, I'm making my own movie.

1517
01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, poor Stephen King.

1518
01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:26.840
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's uh, that's just super interesting to me.

1519
01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:28.800
<v Speaker 3>All the Beatles stuff and all the connections.

1520
01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh wild, Then you have.

1521
01:44:36.319 --> 01:44:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Let me get to this other side. Okay. So this

1522
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:45.239
<v Speaker 3>is pretty much the smoking gun of our entire synopsis

1523
01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:50.359
<v Speaker 3>of the movie At Clockwork Shining is that Windy in

1524
01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:53.920
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the movie is reading a book by

1525
01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:58.359
<v Speaker 3>an intelligence officer named J. D. Salinger. What's is called

1526
01:44:58.439 --> 01:45:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Catcher in the Riot and the Catcher in the Rye

1527
01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:13.079
<v Speaker 3>has been linked to two major assassinations John Lennon, which

1528
01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:19.399
<v Speaker 3>gets into the Beatles stuff. This was it, this happened.

1529
01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Stephen King had this novel in his movie a year

1530
01:45:22.520 --> 01:45:25.359
<v Speaker 3>before both of these assassinations happened. So John Lennon hadn't

1531
01:45:25.399 --> 01:45:30.720
<v Speaker 3>been assassinated yet, neither had the attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan.

1532
01:45:32.319 --> 01:45:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Those are the two assassinations that Catcher in the Rye

1533
01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:41.680
<v Speaker 3>was reportedly on the scene with. Okay, so Mark David

1534
01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Chapman was found on the scene of ah after he

1535
01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:52.000
<v Speaker 3>shot John Lennon. That and he was reading the book.

1536
01:45:52.039 --> 01:45:54.600
<v Speaker 3>He was sitting on the curb waiting for the police

1537
01:45:54.600 --> 01:45:56.800
<v Speaker 3>to arrive, reading the book Catcher in the Rye. And

1538
01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:01.600
<v Speaker 3>then there's a and in his the vent. He stood

1539
01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:07.000
<v Speaker 3>up and said, if you want to know the reason

1540
01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:08.479
<v Speaker 3>why I did it, then all you have to do

1541
01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:10.039
<v Speaker 3>is read the book The Catcher in the Rye. And

1542
01:46:10.039 --> 01:46:16.560
<v Speaker 3>then when as a psychiatrist visited him in prison, he

1543
01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:19.239
<v Speaker 3>was still reading the book like two years later. This

1544
01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:25.159
<v Speaker 3>book has been synonymous with researchers talking about how the

1545
01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Catcher in the Rye book by intelligence officer JD. Salinger,

1546
01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:36.199
<v Speaker 3>is a trigger mechanism for MK ultra assassin. Whindy is

1547
01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:41.720
<v Speaker 3>reading it in the shiny So how did Stanley Kubrick

1548
01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:46.840
<v Speaker 3>know to put this book in this movie a year

1549
01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:52.479
<v Speaker 3>before both of these assassinations would happen, where both of

1550
01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the assailants was reading The Catcher in the Rack.

1551
01:46:58.399 --> 01:47:02.439
<v Speaker 2>I want to say it's because he's CIA. I don't

1552
01:47:02.479 --> 01:47:05.359
<v Speaker 2>think he was a prophet or anything like that. And

1553
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:08.600
<v Speaker 2>he had some kind of psychic ability. I think he

1554
01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:14.479
<v Speaker 2>was in upper echelon type shit and they were cluing

1555
01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:21.199
<v Speaker 2>him into some stuff. In my opinion, I mean, it

1556
01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:23.159
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, right, makes sense.

1557
01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:26.319
<v Speaker 3>This is like the again, this is a smoking gun

1558
01:47:26.359 --> 01:47:31.560
<v Speaker 3>that we connect to the entire assassination and him being

1559
01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:35.680
<v Speaker 3>programmed to like Jack within the movie, being programmed. And

1560
01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:38.199
<v Speaker 3>Jack is a writer too. I mean, that's exactly what

1561
01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:39.880
<v Speaker 3>he says to Amend in the beginning of the movie

1562
01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.479
<v Speaker 3>that he would love to be up here because then

1563
01:47:42.520 --> 01:47:45.680
<v Speaker 3>you can focus on his novel. He's a right right,

1564
01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:52.199
<v Speaker 3>Catcher in the Right was required reading in school.

1565
01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:56.479
<v Speaker 2>And out of all the books, you know, like in this,

1566
01:47:56.720 --> 01:48:01.520
<v Speaker 2>in this this scene right here, it's and as we

1567
01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:04.600
<v Speaker 2>talked about before, Stanley is a perfectionist. He does everything

1568
01:48:04.640 --> 01:48:07.359
<v Speaker 2>on purpose. So out of all those books back there

1569
01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:10.439
<v Speaker 2>that if it was just to be random that they

1570
01:48:10.439 --> 01:48:14.079
<v Speaker 2>could have chosen, it's it has to be this one.

1571
01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And even like what she's wearing. And I mean I've

1572
01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I've heard a couple of presentations on how they think

1573
01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:27.920
<v Speaker 2>that there are little Catcher in the Rye clues in

1574
01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:34.399
<v Speaker 2>the wardrobe and other stuff throughout the shining that that

1575
01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:39.600
<v Speaker 2>go back to the Catcher in the Rye but definitely

1576
01:48:39.640 --> 01:48:42.520
<v Speaker 2>on purpose one hundred.

1577
01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Then you have John Hinckley Junior that was the attempt

1578
01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:49.079
<v Speaker 3>at assassination on Ronald Reagan, that was had the same

1579
01:48:49.119 --> 01:48:51.600
<v Speaker 3>thing on this person. He had the Catcher in the

1580
01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:56.039
<v Speaker 3>Rye look. And both of these assassinations, the one assassination

1581
01:48:56.159 --> 01:48:59.000
<v Speaker 3>on John Lennon by Mark David Chapman and then the

1582
01:48:59.319 --> 01:49:02.279
<v Speaker 3>John Hinckley at terms of assassination on Ronald Reagan both

1583
01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:06.079
<v Speaker 3>had this book. So it's been discussed for a really

1584
01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:09.119
<v Speaker 3>long time. To Catcher in the Rye is a mk

1585
01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:17.159
<v Speaker 3>ultra Manchurian candidate style trigger for assassins. And that's an

1586
01:49:17.159 --> 01:49:20.239
<v Speaker 3>abysmal book. It doesn't make any sense. The book is awful.

1587
01:49:20.319 --> 01:49:22.800
<v Speaker 3>It's a garbage book.

1588
01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>But it's garbage for real garbage.

1589
01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:30.920
<v Speaker 3>But like it's like an in cell book almost, right,

1590
01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:34.760
<v Speaker 3>That's that's kind of like what the main character of

1591
01:49:34.800 --> 01:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>the story is. He's basically like an insul, right, which

1592
01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:45.439
<v Speaker 3>which is what we would you know, call people that

1593
01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:48.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, don't have any kind of social life, that

1594
01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:51.479
<v Speaker 3>don't think that they're accepted by society. That they're in

1595
01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:54.680
<v Speaker 3>there just you know, in their mom's basement or whatever,

1596
01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:57.319
<v Speaker 3>playing video games all day. And it's just a coincidence

1597
01:49:57.359 --> 01:49:59.960
<v Speaker 3>that this was required reading in public schools for really

1598
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:04.920
<v Speaker 3>long time. And then we get an explosion of the

1599
01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:11.119
<v Speaker 3>exact same type of character within this book in real life.

1600
01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:15.279
<v Speaker 3>And there's so much of that throughout Stanley Kubrick's movies,

1601
01:50:15.439 --> 01:50:20.479
<v Speaker 3>just like we mentioned Lolita earlier, the whole movie is

1602
01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:28.039
<v Speaker 3>about pedophilia and how this girl is being essayed by

1603
01:50:28.079 --> 01:50:33.520
<v Speaker 3>this older man. Okay, exactly what was happening to Sue Lyon,

1604
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:37.399
<v Speaker 3>the actor that's playing Lolita was happening to her in

1605
01:50:37.439 --> 01:50:44.000
<v Speaker 3>real life by Kubrick's producer, Hey James Harris. Yes, James

1606
01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Harris was doing to her what she was portraying while

1607
01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:52.359
<v Speaker 3>shooting the movie about what was actually happening to her.

1608
01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's so crazy too.

1609
01:50:57.199 --> 01:51:01.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a mind fuck and a mind fuck. And not

1610
01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:05.720
<v Speaker 3>only that, like with a clockwork Orange as well, that

1611
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:08.520
<v Speaker 3>same type of thing happened in like England and the

1612
01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:10.960
<v Speaker 3>like in the UK and stuff like whenever that movie

1613
01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:16.279
<v Speaker 3>got released, we showed a bunch of newspaper clips of

1614
01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:19.680
<v Speaker 3>like what was going on. Then whenever that movie got released,

1615
01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:25.600
<v Speaker 3>like Crime Gone through the Roof, Like there was these

1616
01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:28.520
<v Speaker 3>gangs that formed in like the UK and the like

1617
01:51:28.600 --> 01:51:31.880
<v Speaker 3>England and stuff. They were called like the Clockwork Gangs.

1618
01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:37.640
<v Speaker 3>There was like Clockwork murders. And then the point that

1619
01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Stanley Kubrick had to take the movie out of theaters,

1620
01:51:43.279 --> 01:51:45.640
<v Speaker 3>you stopped really going in the UK.

1621
01:51:46.840 --> 01:51:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Clockwork Orange, Yes, I didn't know that. Have you heard

1622
01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that the author of Clockwork Orange was inspired by Stanley

1623
01:51:59.399 --> 01:51:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to write it?

1624
01:52:01.279 --> 01:52:07.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I listened to a few interviews from him and

1625
01:52:07.239 --> 01:52:10.600
<v Speaker 3>his relationship with Stanley Kubrick, and he said that after

1626
01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:16.520
<v Speaker 3>the movie was made that kubric never talked to him again. Really, yeah,

1627
01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:19.760
<v Speaker 3>that You're trying to reach out to Cubriaic several times

1628
01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:25.119
<v Speaker 3>and Kubert didn't have anything to do with him after that. Wow.

1629
01:52:26.399 --> 01:52:31.920
<v Speaker 3>So interesting. It is super fascinating. All right, let's get

1630
01:52:31.960 --> 01:52:36.880
<v Speaker 3>to this. This is a really weird continuity.

1631
01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Er.

1632
01:52:37.279 --> 01:52:40.079
<v Speaker 3>So, whenever Wendy and Danny is trying to escape from

1633
01:52:40.159 --> 01:52:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Johnick after he busts down the first door, he says, Wendy,

1634
01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm home. Whenever Wendy and Danny's a trying to escape

1635
01:52:50.920 --> 01:52:56.000
<v Speaker 3>into the bathroom, the light on the table beside the

1636
01:52:56.079 --> 01:52:59.840
<v Speaker 3>door is crooked. But in the very next scene when

1637
01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I walks in the light shade the lampshade. This one

1638
01:53:09.079 --> 01:53:14.399
<v Speaker 3>is really wild. This one's almost like the one with

1639
01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Hallerin and the a completely the different background. So whenever

1640
01:53:27.279 --> 01:53:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Jack tries to bust down the bathroom door, he sticks

1641
01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:37.319
<v Speaker 3>his head through and says, here's Johnny whatever. Then whenever

1642
01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:42.720
<v Speaker 3>he turns around and he hears hollering's SnowCat pulling up

1643
01:53:42.760 --> 01:53:46.039
<v Speaker 3>to the hotel, and he kind of alerted and he's like,

1644
01:53:46.079 --> 01:53:50.520
<v Speaker 3>what is that? And he turns around, both of the

1645
01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:54.399
<v Speaker 3>quarter panels of the door to the bathroom have been

1646
01:53:54.479 --> 01:54:01.880
<v Speaker 3>knocked out. He never knocked out the love side of

1647
01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:07.960
<v Speaker 3>the quarter panel, right, but it makes it look like

1648
01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:11.439
<v Speaker 3>an eleven. It does. There's your eleven again.

1649
01:54:14.079 --> 01:54:15.840
<v Speaker 2>That's so crazy.

1650
01:54:17.439 --> 01:54:21.159
<v Speaker 3>Step. So you literally only see him break the right

1651
01:54:21.159 --> 01:54:24.800
<v Speaker 3>hand quarter panel of the door. That's the only one

1652
01:54:24.840 --> 01:54:27.640
<v Speaker 3>that he put his axe through. Then whenever the shot

1653
01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:30.560
<v Speaker 3>turns around, he hears and then you see the background

1654
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:36.800
<v Speaker 3>that both quarter panels have been knocked out. Symbolism man

1655
01:54:37.520 --> 01:54:41.079
<v Speaker 3>it has to be. Okay, And here is the other

1656
01:54:41.159 --> 01:54:48.680
<v Speaker 3>smoking gun that we've mentioned already. But the first time

1657
01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:54.439
<v Speaker 3>that Danny encounters anything strange in the hotel is when

1658
01:54:54.439 --> 01:54:58.119
<v Speaker 3>he's in the games room and he sees the twins

1659
01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:02.199
<v Speaker 3>and then to the leve of the double doors, and

1660
01:55:02.279 --> 01:55:04.319
<v Speaker 3>now they're eleven here. So you got the double doors,

1661
01:55:04.399 --> 01:55:08.560
<v Speaker 3>and behind the two girls that are making an eleven,

1662
01:55:10.520 --> 01:55:15.439
<v Speaker 3>there's a poster to the left of the door that

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01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:22.920
<v Speaker 3>says Monarch. And several people have seen this before I

1664
01:55:23.039 --> 01:55:26.479
<v Speaker 3>seen it, okay, so I'm not claiming that I'm the

1665
01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:30.680
<v Speaker 3>only person to have ever seen this. Other people have

1666
01:55:30.720 --> 01:55:34.159
<v Speaker 3>seen it, but they've misinterpreted what it means. They think

1667
01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:38.960
<v Speaker 3>that it's like referring to like Monarch Mountain, or like

1668
01:55:39.279 --> 01:55:42.800
<v Speaker 3>the Kubrick stare that all of them do in the

1669
01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:47.159
<v Speaker 3>Kubrick's movies, like full metal jacket, like a clockwork orange

1670
01:55:47.239 --> 01:55:50.199
<v Speaker 3>and like the shining they do that. You know, he's

1671
01:55:50.239 --> 01:55:54.159
<v Speaker 3>doing it in this the photo for a pair of

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01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:57.920
<v Speaker 3>clockwork shining and he's doing that downward stare because they

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01:55:57.920 --> 01:56:01.319
<v Speaker 3>think that this thing back here is either a sky's

1674
01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:04.159
<v Speaker 3>skiing or maybe it looks like a menotaur or whatever.

1675
01:56:05.399 --> 01:56:13.720
<v Speaker 3>But they never related the Monarch poster to MK Ultra Monarch.

1676
01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:19.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the first thing I thought of, is monarch mind control.

1677
01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:21.720
<v Speaker 3>But again.

1678
01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I think it wouldn't make sense unless you understood that's

1679
01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:32.399
<v Speaker 2>what the whole movie is about, you know what I mean, Like,

1680
01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:34.079
<v Speaker 2>this is just another clue.

1681
01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:39.239
<v Speaker 3>It's another clue. And he could have put any poster

1682
01:56:39.359 --> 01:56:42.920
<v Speaker 3>there that could have been anything, right, but he chose

1683
01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:49.560
<v Speaker 3>to put a Monarch poster in the background with a.

1684
01:56:49.479 --> 01:56:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Guy with like a lantern over his face. It's like,

1685
01:56:52.520 --> 01:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like, I don't know. To me, it's just

1686
01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:58.960
<v Speaker 2>there's just too much there for that to be a coincidence.

1687
01:57:00.399 --> 01:57:02.399
<v Speaker 3>And then we have County O'Brien, of course that's in

1688
01:57:02.399 --> 01:57:06.159
<v Speaker 3>the documentary that you know, talks about her experiences in

1689
01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:11.199
<v Speaker 3>the MK Ultra Monarch program at a white House Pentagon level.

1690
01:57:12.239 --> 01:57:19.439
<v Speaker 3>So he's telling us within the movie with this poster

1691
01:57:20.600 --> 01:57:25.880
<v Speaker 3>that the thing is about mind control, so giant mind

1692
01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:33.319
<v Speaker 3>control operation. And then this has been discovered before. This

1693
01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:39.920
<v Speaker 3>is the Hitler mustache. That is when the picture fades

1694
01:57:40.520 --> 01:57:45.479
<v Speaker 3>to a close up picture of July nineteen ninety and

1695
01:57:46.640 --> 01:57:50.439
<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty one July fourth, it fades into a close

1696
01:57:50.520 --> 01:57:52.119
<v Speaker 3>up picture and then you can see like a little

1697
01:57:52.199 --> 01:57:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Hitler mustache beginning of Jack space here. And this is

1698
01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:05.880
<v Speaker 3>the one that is a really big deal. Whenever they

1699
01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:10.319
<v Speaker 3>go through the Gold Room, whenever Almon is giving them

1700
01:58:10.319 --> 01:58:16.920
<v Speaker 3>a tour, after they're walking outside with the they're doing

1701
01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:22.239
<v Speaker 3>the Beatles walk, they walk inside, they have they're walking

1702
01:58:22.279 --> 01:58:24.920
<v Speaker 3>through the Gold Room. Now, the only way that I've

1703
01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:29.119
<v Speaker 3>seen this was because I got to see the shining

1704
01:58:29.319 --> 01:58:33.760
<v Speaker 3>on a big like in the theater where I was

1705
01:58:34.279 --> 01:58:41.039
<v Speaker 3>living before we started filming this movie. They did a

1706
01:58:42.800 --> 01:58:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Shining replay in theaters for Halloween. Wow.

1707
01:58:46.560 --> 01:58:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I would have loved to went to one of those, so.

1708
01:58:50.680 --> 01:58:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I got to see it on the big screen. I

1709
01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:57.199
<v Speaker 3>would never have seen this if I didn't watch it

1710
01:58:57.319 --> 01:59:00.960
<v Speaker 3>on a big screen because it's so in the background

1711
01:59:02.239 --> 01:59:07.159
<v Speaker 3>that you're gonna pass it every single time. Okay, So

1712
01:59:07.239 --> 01:59:10.439
<v Speaker 3>in the background of when they're walking through the Gold Room,

1713
01:59:11.359 --> 01:59:17.159
<v Speaker 3>if you look between Holman and Wendy, there's a a

1714
01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:25.159
<v Speaker 3>swastika that's no doubt put into the back of the wall,

1715
01:59:26.680 --> 01:59:30.479
<v Speaker 3>like faded into the into the back of the wall.

1716
01:59:30.600 --> 01:59:33.960
<v Speaker 3>And when I seen this, I was like, holy shit,

1717
01:59:35.319 --> 01:59:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I just see what I thought that I seen.

1718
01:59:41.039 --> 01:59:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, you had to do double take, triple take, like,

1719
01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:44.880
<v Speaker 2>what the hell was that?

1720
01:59:45.680 --> 01:59:49.319
<v Speaker 3>And then as I was editing the well, then I

1721
01:59:49.399 --> 01:59:51.199
<v Speaker 3>because I had it on my phone too, And then

1722
01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:52.880
<v Speaker 3>after we watched it in the theater, I was like,

1723
01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:58.520
<v Speaker 3>I gotta zoom in on this and see if it's real. Now,

1724
01:59:58.560 --> 02:00:01.279
<v Speaker 3>to my knowledge, no one has ever seen this before

1725
02:00:01.399 --> 02:00:04.880
<v Speaker 3>until I brought it up. Now people will claim that

1726
02:00:05.039 --> 02:00:06.600
<v Speaker 3>other people have seen this, but.

1727
02:00:08.159 --> 02:00:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Not to my recollection. And I, I mean, it's like

1728
02:00:11.640 --> 02:00:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I said, before I watched Jay Widner's Kubrick's Odyssey, I

1729
02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:19.000
<v Speaker 2>never saw it brought up there. I mean, I would

1730
02:00:19.039 --> 02:00:25.960
<v Speaker 2>consider myself to be pretty pretty proficient researcher into Kubrick's stuff,

1731
02:00:26.239 --> 02:00:30.279
<v Speaker 2>and I've never seen that. So yeah, I was surprised

1732
02:00:31.079 --> 02:00:31.560
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

1733
02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:37.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's uh. And that connects to the Hitler mustache,

1734
02:00:37.159 --> 02:00:40.520
<v Speaker 3>connects to the Marmic, connects to the Twins, It connects

1735
02:00:40.600 --> 02:00:44.520
<v Speaker 3>to mk Ultra, connects to mind control. You know, he's

1736
02:00:45.640 --> 02:00:48.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to tell people that it's a giant MK Ultra

1737
02:00:49.039 --> 02:00:54.680
<v Speaker 3>mind control program. It's uh, you know, that's what's going

1738
02:00:54.720 --> 02:00:57.279
<v Speaker 3>on here. And he's showing me for symbolism, he's trying

1739
02:00:57.279 --> 02:00:59.399
<v Speaker 3>to tell you he has the TVs that are not

1740
02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:05.279
<v Speaker 3>playing any things, not plugged into anything. It's it's mind control.

1741
02:01:06.560 --> 02:01:11.399
<v Speaker 3>He's programming Jack to kill and murder his family. He's

1742
02:01:11.439 --> 02:01:16.000
<v Speaker 3>been unknowingly drugged with an array of drugs. He goes

1743
02:01:16.079 --> 02:01:19.640
<v Speaker 3>up and he he sees the woman turning, the very

1744
02:01:19.640 --> 02:01:23.479
<v Speaker 3>attractive woman turned into an elderly woman. He then goes

1745
02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:26.359
<v Speaker 3>up into his apartment and when he asked him, what

1746
02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:30.520
<v Speaker 3>did you see anything? You see anything over there? He says,

1747
02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:34.159
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see a goddamn thing, right.

1748
02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:35.760
<v Speaker 4>Right.

1749
02:01:37.640 --> 02:01:39.760
<v Speaker 3>All of it adds up whenever you watch the movie,

1750
02:01:40.279 --> 02:01:43.479
<v Speaker 3>because the movie goes in there're a lot more details

1751
02:01:43.520 --> 02:01:46.439
<v Speaker 3>than what I've gone through here. But I think we've

1752
02:01:46.479 --> 02:01:49.039
<v Speaker 3>done a really good job. And some of the things

1753
02:01:49.159 --> 02:01:53.439
<v Speaker 3>aren't that I showed in the slides aren't actually in

1754
02:01:53.520 --> 02:01:56.079
<v Speaker 3>the movie, but a lot of them are. And I

1755
02:01:56.199 --> 02:02:00.439
<v Speaker 3>just recommend for people to watch the movie that you

1756
02:02:00.439 --> 02:02:04.039
<v Speaker 3>can help support my work and help me create my

1757
02:02:04.399 --> 02:02:07.239
<v Speaker 3>new documentary that I'm getting ready to start on.

1758
02:02:08.760 --> 02:02:14.720
<v Speaker 2>You want to give us any teasers about the new documentary.

1759
02:02:14.840 --> 02:02:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is going to be on the government's psychic

1760
02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:20.039
<v Speaker 3>spy program.

1761
02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, that's going to be amazing. I So if

1762
02:02:26.439 --> 02:02:30.520
<v Speaker 2>you ever did do like a director's cut of a

1763
02:02:30.560 --> 02:02:33.039
<v Speaker 2>clockwork shining. I'd be very interested to see what that

1764
02:02:33.079 --> 02:02:37.279
<v Speaker 2>would look like, because I feel that you, much like myself,

1765
02:02:37.640 --> 02:02:40.920
<v Speaker 2>are very invested into this topic, and it's it's just

1766
02:02:41.079 --> 02:02:44.079
<v Speaker 2>like never ending. After you find one thing, it leads

1767
02:02:44.079 --> 02:02:46.239
<v Speaker 2>into another thing, into another thing, and you could go

1768
02:02:46.319 --> 02:02:50.119
<v Speaker 2>on and on about it. So but for the listeners,

1769
02:02:51.479 --> 02:02:54.159
<v Speaker 2>one more time, where can they find a clockwork shining?

1770
02:02:54.720 --> 02:02:55.760
<v Speaker 2>If they want to watch it?

1771
02:02:56.760 --> 02:02:59.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Really quickly, what was your thing that you found?

1772
02:02:59.560 --> 02:03:00.479
<v Speaker 3>Was it in the slides?

1773
02:03:01.359 --> 02:03:06.079
<v Speaker 2>It was, well, it was about the eight and ten

1774
02:03:06.239 --> 02:03:11.399
<v Speaker 2>years old, and how he portrays them to be twins

1775
02:03:11.520 --> 02:03:15.199
<v Speaker 2>and not an eight and a ten like two separate individuals,

1776
02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:19.439
<v Speaker 2>but more as twins. And I thought, you know, if

1777
02:03:19.439 --> 02:03:23.000
<v Speaker 2>he was going to visually give us twins, why did

1778
02:03:23.039 --> 02:03:27.479
<v Speaker 2>he have the hotel manager make that distinction that one

1779
02:03:27.680 --> 02:03:29.840
<v Speaker 2>was eight one was ten, Like he left that part

1780
02:03:29.880 --> 02:03:34.159
<v Speaker 2>in there, but he showed us twins. So again, Stanley

1781
02:03:34.199 --> 02:03:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Kubrick is a perfectionist. If he did that, it had

1782
02:03:36.920 --> 02:03:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to have been on purpose.

1783
02:03:39.640 --> 02:03:44.279
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, it's really odd,

1784
02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:47.720
<v Speaker 3>really strange, and I think that we probably will do

1785
02:03:48.880 --> 02:03:51.760
<v Speaker 3>some kind of director's cut on this in a few years,

1786
02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:56.960
<v Speaker 3>or we'll do some kind of other maybe a Clockwork Shining.

1787
02:03:56.640 --> 02:04:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Too, that would be a cool one.

1788
02:04:00.600 --> 02:04:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we will see. But if people would like to

1789
02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:04.920
<v Speaker 3>check out the movie, please do because it helps support

1790
02:04:04.960 --> 02:04:08.680
<v Speaker 3>me and support my future projects. You can find it

1791
02:04:08.720 --> 02:04:13.279
<v Speaker 3>on Amazon Prime, Copple TV Plus, and two B. Just

1792
02:04:13.359 --> 02:04:17.720
<v Speaker 3>type in a Clockwork Shining Puper's honestly three You don't

1793
02:04:17.720 --> 02:04:20.000
<v Speaker 3>even have to put in the whole title, just the

1794
02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:23.439
<v Speaker 3>Clockwork Shining and it'll pop up. And if you would

1795
02:04:23.479 --> 02:04:27.319
<v Speaker 3>like to follow my podcast, I do two shows a

1796
02:04:27.399 --> 02:04:32.119
<v Speaker 3>week on YouTube. It's called Raised by Giants. You can

1797
02:04:32.159 --> 02:04:34.880
<v Speaker 3>find it on YouTube and any and all podcast platforms,

1798
02:04:34.960 --> 02:04:38.039
<v Speaker 3>And if you would like to reach out to me personally,

1799
02:04:38.199 --> 02:04:41.520
<v Speaker 3>you can find me on Twitter at Raised by Giants

1800
02:04:41.600 --> 02:04:46.479
<v Speaker 3>eight and Instagram at Raise by Giants Pod. Thanks so

1801
02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:48.199
<v Speaker 3>much for having me on. Really appreciate it.

1802
02:04:48.800 --> 02:04:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've been super generous with your time. It's been

1803
02:04:51.600 --> 02:04:54.880
<v Speaker 2>over two hours. I'm really appreciative of that because I

1804
02:04:54.880 --> 02:04:56.560
<v Speaker 2>feel like we covered a lot of ground and I

1805
02:04:56.640 --> 02:04:59.199
<v Speaker 2>asked pretty much all the questions I had for you,

1806
02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:02.359
<v Speaker 2>So I would love to have you back on. We

1807
02:05:02.399 --> 02:05:08.119
<v Speaker 2>can cover something different. We did Virginia Giuffrey on the

1808
02:05:08.159 --> 02:05:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Occult Rejects and that was another mind blower. So I

1809
02:05:13.279 --> 02:05:15.079
<v Speaker 2>know you're doing some good work over there. I hope

1810
02:05:15.079 --> 02:05:17.439
<v Speaker 2>the listeners go and find you. But thanks so much

1811
02:05:17.479 --> 02:05:19.079
<v Speaker 2>for joining me this evening.

1812
02:05:20.239 --> 02:05:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much. It was delightful and thanks for

1813
02:05:23.840 --> 02:05:26.399
<v Speaker 3>your time as well. Appreciate it. Let's do it again

1814
02:05:26.640 --> 02:05:29.159
<v Speaker 3>sometime soon, anytime, anytime you want.

1815
02:05:29.880 --> 02:05:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Thanks so much, and to all the listeners out there,

1816
02:05:33.039 --> 02:05:36.119
<v Speaker 2>thank you, and we will catch you on the next one.

1817
02:05:37.640 --> 02:05:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm not gonna hurt you. I'm just gonna.

1818
02:05:44.640 --> 02:05:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Bash your brains.

1819
02:05:47.039 --> 02:06:27.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna bash right the fuck in
