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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Raise by Giants Discussion. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>writer Lee. Good to see everyone. Welcome any moderators and

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<v Speaker 1>that down we have with us today. He's an accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>filmmaker and entrepreneur, independent journalist and og in these spaces,

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for producing films like Loose Change, Gray State, and

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<v Speaker 1>Fabled Enemies. Jason Burmas, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, it's an honor and a privilege to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on brother. The movie you produced, Loose Change, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel was literally responsible for exposing nine to eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>the questions that everyone had and people echo. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>strange people echo those exact same sentiments that were brought

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<v Speaker 1>forth in that movie surrounding nine to eleven, like the

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven attacks to this very day. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite an accomplishment. Was definitely an instrumental part of my

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<v Speaker 1>journey as well, like I believe that it is for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. What was the initial response, like

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<v Speaker 1>when that movie came out in two thousand and.

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<v Speaker 2>Five, Boy, well, I mean, all right, so let's just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bring it back because now we're talking twenty

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<v Speaker 2>plus years ago, and you know, just to fast forward

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Even though people are talking about it now,

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<v Speaker 2>there seems to be a resurgence of it. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, it's super disappointing, beyond disappointing, really a

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<v Speaker 2>reality check on the way I did feel in the

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<v Speaker 2>very beginning of that phenomenon that nothing's been done about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that even now the current President of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>when he did that infamous Fox News interview prior to

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<v Speaker 2>his reelection the second term, he was first asked about RFK, MLK,

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<v Speaker 2>JFK documents, said he was going to release those. Then

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<v Speaker 2>he was asked very clearly about nine to eleven, seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to have no problem with releasing those. Kind of took

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<v Speaker 2>me aback. He said he would release the nine to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven documents. It was only when he was actually asked

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<v Speaker 2>about Epstein that he had reservations and said maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at it, and then kind of defaulted

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<v Speaker 2>to but he said the other two for sure. We're

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<v Speaker 2>now way over a year into this administration. Although I'm

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<v Speaker 2>proud of the American people for pushing on the Ebstein issue,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a huge one, and really in relation to

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<v Speaker 2>all of it, you haven't heard a peep about nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven. And I actually spoke out in DC on

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<v Speaker 2>the anniversary this year. September tenth was the day that

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to begin moderating all these other speakers,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the eleventh I was supposed to introduce Tucker Carlson,

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<v Speaker 2>who had just done this documentary series for the TCN

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<v Speaker 2>network before it was released. Tucker didn't end up doing it, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>of the assassination of Charlie Kirk on September tenth. I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>my brother is the one that broke the news long before.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he broke it within twenty minutes of him

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<v Speaker 2>being shot. I was unaware because I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>on the road and talking to all these different people.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, at the same time in that day event,

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<v Speaker 2>outside of academics and firefighters and people like myself who spoke,

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<v Speaker 2>Ron Johnson, a sitting congressman, spoke there. Dennis Kassinich, former congressman,

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<v Speaker 2>also spoke there. Kurt Weldon, former congressman who is responsible

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<v Speaker 2>in bringing the issue of able danger, which is discussed

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<v Speaker 2>in Loose Change Final Cut and my film Fabled Enemies.

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<v Speaker 2>I encourage people, if they're not aware of that, to

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<v Speaker 2>check that out. So, I mean, it was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It got no press, of course, And right now we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the verge of the twenty fifth anniversary. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>always said it, like this writer, the fact of the

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<v Speaker 2>matter is that today and I mean toda today are

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<v Speaker 2>entire in this country foreign and domestic policy is still

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<v Speaker 2>based on this idea that nine to eleven was conducted

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<v Speaker 2>by Muslim extremists. It didn't just bring you the Patriot Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody brought you Homeland security which didn't exist, which now

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<v Speaker 2>they can exploit ice with instead of just having immigration

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<v Speaker 2>and border security. It brought you the Military Commissions Act,

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<v Speaker 2>the National Defense Authorization Act that everybody you know acknowledges

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<v Speaker 2>how bad it is every year that they continually pass it.

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<v Speaker 2>It brought you w wars of aggression across the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East that now include a Ron to this day. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So without telling the truth on that, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you take on the deep state or restore our

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional republic. So now let's rewind to your very original question. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's rewind it. I thought you could do that. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a dumb kid. I really believed in my heart

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<v Speaker 2>of hearts that me and these two other guys, Corey

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<v Speaker 2>and Dylan shout out we were going to change the world.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was the oldest, and I had kind

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<v Speaker 2>of come in at a different perspective than them. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't know the real story of Loose Change,

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<v Speaker 2>but the second edition is the one that went super

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<v Speaker 2>megaviral Loose Change second cut, and there were various reasons

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<v Speaker 2>for that. But I didn't even know Dylan and Corey

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<v Speaker 2>when they made the original sixty minute version. Outside of

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<v Speaker 2>like internet lore. So here I was a college dropout

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<v Speaker 2>making pizzas, and I'm the political guy at the party

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<v Speaker 2>that a year or so after nine to eleven had

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<v Speaker 2>seen too much, and I was burning discs of anomalous

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<v Speaker 2>evidence and handing them out in folders to people, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was being mocked at parties. You know, people absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>cut me off. I mean, folks, we're talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was questioning this on the run up to the

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<v Speaker 2>Iraq War. It was okay to question weapons of mass

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<v Speaker 2>destruction of the Iraq War. Nine to eleven not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>The feel in this country was very, very different than

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<v Speaker 2>it is today. And so I was actually at my

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<v Speaker 2>pizza shop. I had a desk job during the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my first desk job at the ripe old

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<v Speaker 2>age of twenty four as a graphic designer out in Cooperstown,

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<v Speaker 2>New York, and I was so happy about that. But

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<v Speaker 2>nights I was still working pizza. And my delivery guy

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<v Speaker 2>who actually texted me two nights ago, we hadn't talked

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<v Speaker 2>almost five years, but yeah, he texted me a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of nights ago. We still keep in touch. But my

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<v Speaker 2>delivery guy, Phil had asked me for some of my discs,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had burned the original Loose Change, which actually

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<v Speaker 2>focuses in the very beginning. It's got taken out of

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<v Speaker 2>the second cut on the anomalous visual evidence of the

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<v Speaker 2>second plane that hits the World Trade Center and the

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<v Speaker 2>very real possibility that this was a remote controlled vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>with something attached to the bottom of it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>still stand by that. By the way, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people shy away from it. It's actually

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<v Speaker 2>present on five of the videos, and I think there

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<v Speaker 2>are overall just under twenty videos of the second plane

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<v Speaker 2>hitting the World Trade Center, so something to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>But I handed him a burn CDR, not even DVD

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<v Speaker 2>burning still wasn't a thing, folks. I had seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>mele CDRs and I hand Phil one and it says

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<v Speaker 2>loose Change on it, and he goes, hey, I know

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that did this. I'm like, I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was very bizarre because I'd been following all this, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>the video itself was promoted on a site called Let's

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<v Speaker 2>Roll nine one one dot org by a guy named

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<v Speaker 2>Phil Jahan. That's how I became aware of it. They

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<v Speaker 2>had a very small website for loose change and it

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<v Speaker 2>said both of them were out of d C. I

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<v Speaker 2>was located in Oneana, New York. Phil looks at me

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<v Speaker 2>and goes, yeah, no, I went to high school with them.

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<v Speaker 2>They went to high school here in Oneana. He goes,

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<v Speaker 2>Corey's back in town from DC. Dylan's coming. I could

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<v Speaker 2>give him a call right now if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him. And I'm like, okay, please do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And Corey is this you know, I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two twenty three at the time, had joined the military,

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<v Speaker 2>was an Iraqi war vet, the whole nine, and really

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<v Speaker 2>good looking kid by the way, still a good looking gentleman.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just remember like all like I remember one

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<v Speaker 2>time we were on the street and a girl walked

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<v Speaker 2>up to him literally like it was probably nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>at night, and she goes, oh, you're super high. I

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<v Speaker 2>just started making out with him. That was the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing that would happen to Corey. So Corey comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and we're talking, and I've got his attention pretty hardcore,

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<v Speaker 2>right and he's asking me, well, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>about this and that? And I'm telling him I have

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<v Speaker 2>all these other videos that aren't in the first edition. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the first edition also dealt with the controlled demo of

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<v Speaker 2>one and two, and I'm like, no, I have like

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<v Speaker 2>five more videos of those squibs going off. He's like really,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like yeah. So he goes, look, man, we're working

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<v Speaker 2>on a second edition, and I'd love to give you

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<v Speaker 2>the script and have you go over it. Literally within

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<v Speaker 2>an hour of meeting him, he goes back home and

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<v Speaker 2>he comes back with a blue folder for me. I'm pumped.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working late night, probably till two in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>at the pizza shop. I remember it was a week night.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm up at six in the morning back on the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reading the script for the second edition on the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I literally wrider. I think it's my

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<v Speaker 2>destiny with these two guys to change the world. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have the same kind of feeling. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I still haven't even met Dylan yet. And you know, also,

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<v Speaker 2>full disclosure, not a religious guy, never really been outside

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<v Speaker 2>of what I was raised, but rejected that pretty quick

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<v Speaker 2>in my teenage years, even went as far as being

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an atheist until I discovered this information and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the occult, weird nature of it does seem

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<v Speaker 2>like there's something out there for sure, good and evil

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<v Speaker 2>another story. But right after I'd watched the first editions,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'd watched everything rider, I was again burning

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<v Speaker 2>discs of regular information.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how distribution worked back then. Because I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>Loose Change until two thousand and eight. I actually saw

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<v Speaker 1>Zeitgeist first and two thousand and seven, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there was two camps. You either saw Loose Change

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<v Speaker 1>or you saw Zeitgeist. Was there any beef between you

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the two films.

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<v Speaker 2>We can get to Zeitgeist and Peter Joseph in a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will if you want to, because for those

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<v Speaker 2>that don't know what he's referring to is that the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of Zeitgeist does question a lot of these events

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<v Speaker 2>and use footage from Loose Change actually, in particular the

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<v Speaker 2>controlled demolition section. We actually, me and Dylan did an

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<v Speaker 2>interview with Peter Joseph. Eventually we were friendly at first,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll get there. And by the way, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. We gave it away, like I was for me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting back to this story. After I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that movie and I'd seen nine to eleven in plain sight,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd seen press for truth, I'd burned all that, seen

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<v Speaker 2>them multiple times. You know what I mean, Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I'm in my room, I watch these change.

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<v Speaker 2>this film. I'm like, I will do everything I can

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<v Speaker 2>edition out, Cindy Sheehan was coming to Binghamton, so I

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<v Speaker 2>printed up the original Investigate nine to eleven shirts. Chances

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<v Speaker 2>the DVD Loose Change second edition before it went out,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you said, this is this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>important thing on this journey in a moment. But essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>the Fox News guy picked us out. He saw what

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<v Speaker 2>what's up, guys, And we start talking to him and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like very skeptical, but he interviews all three of us,

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<v Speaker 2>first interviews we've ever done. And this is before the event,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we hand him one of the burned discs. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>don't expect to hear back from him, nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Fox News, for God's sake. You know they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're at the peak peak propaganda at that point. And

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<v Speaker 2>uh any anyway, U we give one to Cindy Sheehan

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<v Speaker 2>after the event, brief interaction with her. Nothing ever comes

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<v Speaker 2>to that, but I think it was like the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>It was less than twenty four hours later. We get

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<v Speaker 2>contacted by Fox. They're like, we watched your movie. We

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<v Speaker 2>and tomorrow. We're gonna break this up into two things. Awesome. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube's just starting, Okay, So basically what happens is if

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<v Speaker 2>It became their biggest story in years. Some of the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with Alex Jones as well, because he wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>covering Loose Change and had not bought the first edition

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<v Speaker 2>of the film. It was kind of combative towards the

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<v Speaker 2>Pentagon stuff, as many people are, and you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>we can. But dude, I remember telling these guys, I go,

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<v Speaker 2>we are about to change the world, and they did

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<v Speaker 2>not believe me at first, But then we set out

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<v Speaker 2>we just were never able to get criminal accountability. The

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<v Speaker 2>well was poisoned too many times. The propaganda overall didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>We've kind of won in the court of public opinion

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, but at the same time, there's the

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<v Speaker 2>you know exactly what happened or who exactly is responsible.

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<v Speaker 2>And to us, I've always said, you know, I made

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<v Speaker 2>and the players that were there, because you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people will hear about the Saudi's, but they

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<v Speaker 2>dancing Israelis, but they don't really understand the Israeli spy

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven. They'll talk about, you know, the hijackers as patsies,

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<v Speaker 2>but then won't have a clue. They'll talk about the drills.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know where they come from and who is

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<v Speaker 2>operating them, and they never bring it all together into

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<v Speaker 2>many levels. And we do need accountability, but we're probably

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get that on accountability because we can't

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<v Speaker 2>get real investigations and prosecutions in this country. They It's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty upsetting when you come to that realization. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of knew rider that it was over for accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>After the fifth anniversary of nine to eleven, we had

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<v Speaker 2>built up so much momentum that we had about ten

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<v Speaker 2>Center site on nine to eleven wearing the Investigate nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven shirts, and the media just didn't cover it

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<v Speaker 2>at all. I mean at all. The only people to

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<v Speaker 2>those things. The morning of is the morning the infamous

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<v Speaker 2>morning Dylan and I debated Popular Mechanics about their debunking,

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a whole book on it, James Megs and David Dunbar.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny thing was, I was scheduled that day to be

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<v Speaker 2>about these things. I was down at ground zero. I

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<v Speaker 2>Adam was not happy with me. Adam told me to

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<v Speaker 2>been a journey man. I always tell people this ignorance

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<v Speaker 2>to have as much information as possible, not so much

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe you're going to be able to change everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You can change stuff in your world, right, because you

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<v Speaker 2>COVID nineteen eighty four nightmare, and there was zero chance

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<v Speaker 2>that I was going to be injecting myself with any

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<v Speaker 2>hate and lies of any right. And you can go

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<v Speaker 2>back to, you know, a clip of me back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty ten. You know, I'm the first guy to ever

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<v Speaker 2>have a show on Info Wars outside Alex Jones called

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<v Speaker 2>similar situation where they're thinking because at the time, the

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<v Speaker 2>these other things that the Internet era had not exploded

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<v Speaker 2>to the cohesive global network of the phone where they

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<v Speaker 2>they were putting it out in the arena. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not even going to be like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I basically broke down how they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>anybody types in the dark predictions of Jason Burmas have

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<v Speaker 2>come true. You know, I'm not super proud of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it gives you a look into my mindset of

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<v Speaker 2>when all this stuff's had taken place. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my sister and her kids. I searched through the entire country,

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<v Speaker 2>really up to the Midwest and found a place that

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<v Speaker 2>freedom in this country. So you know, the truth matters.

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<v Speaker 2>It sucks that sometimes you have to face it head on,

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<v Speaker 2>but I assure you again, the more ignorant you are,

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<v Speaker 1>Writer, Well, brother, I think that you did change the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had a tear running down my face. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've seen it, but it is very true.

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<v Speaker 1>You really did change the world, because I probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be here right now. If it wasn't for your movie,

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't for it Lose Change, I probably would

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<v Speaker 1>not be here. I would not be doing this. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't i'd be speaking with you. So I do believe,

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<v Speaker 1>even in a roundabout way, you did change the world. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>and out of all the things that could be released,

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein files was a good start. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really interested in the UFO files. I personally believe the

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<v Speaker 1>entire alien UFO extraterrestrial topic is one giant psychological operation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I believe the public in the world needs the

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven files. We deserve to know what hit

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<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon, what crashed in Pennsylvania, and if two jet

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<v Speaker 1>liners really can bring down two skyscrapers due to fires

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<v Speaker 1>minutes after impact, okay, and the fires completely compromise the

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<v Speaker 1>integrity of the building and it collapsed if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to believe the official story, right, But why didn't the

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon collapse Jason after it was hit by a plane?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean they would obviously with the blastproof windows,

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<v Speaker 2>but really you had the same thing going on at

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<v Speaker 2>the World Trade Center. In fact, one of the tells

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<v Speaker 2>that there were multiple explosions in the World Trade Center

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<v Speaker 2>even prior to its demolition. Is if you watch the

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<v Speaker 2>Noda Brothers film you just mentioned down to the last floor, well,

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<v Speaker 2>actually the World Trade Center goes another ten stories into

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<v Speaker 2>the ground into the subway as well. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>have heard Willy Rodriguez's story, and it was Felipe Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm sorry, Felipe, it's either Felipe his first name

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<v Speaker 2>or last name Lopez, it's not together. I always get

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong. But he's basically the guy that they saved.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say they, it wasn't just Willy Rodriguez.

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<v Speaker 2>check out well from another gentleman who was there in

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<v Speaker 2>the BASEMENTT level witnessing these explosions, called Anthony South Lamasia Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and they saved this guy. In fact, the reason I

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<v Speaker 2>the elevator shaft burnt up. Okay, and later on I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it's in loose change final cut, he is actually

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<v Speaker 2>off of the walls and those glass windows blown out

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<v Speaker 2>on the first level. Everybody, Now I realize we're you

416
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<v Speaker 2>know again, almost twenty five years later, and there are

417
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<v Speaker 2>people out there that never witnessed the World Trade Center

418
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<v Speaker 2>in person, never touched grass as they say, and put

419
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<v Speaker 2>their hands on the glass. Yes, I did. I was

420
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<v Speaker 2>in the World Trade Center quite a few times as

421
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<v Speaker 2>a kid. And aside from the fact that the thing

422
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<v Speaker 2>was three tiered, hermetically sealed, so in other words, you

423
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<v Speaker 2>couldn't just take the elevator from the first floor of

424
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<v Speaker 2>the basement, whatever level, all the way up to the

425
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<v Speaker 2>hundredth floor. You go like thirty floors, then you'd have

426
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<v Speaker 2>to get off, Then you have to go another thirty

427
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<v Speaker 2>floors you have to get off, and then you know, basically,

428
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<v Speaker 2>it was a three tiered system. So this idea that

429
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<v Speaker 2>the plane crashed and the fire went all the way

430
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<v Speaker 2>down this shaft system that's not even linear, everybody, and

431
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>not connected in the way you think, and then blew

432
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<v Speaker 2>out not only in the basement level, but was powerful

433
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<v Speaker 2>enough to blow out the lobby level where there's no

434
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<v Speaker 2>burn marks by the way, okay from the fire that

435
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<v Speaker 2>supposedly from the big fireball that we saw, but we

436
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't say you come out down there. Clearly explosives were

437
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:02.519
<v Speaker 2>used in this building multiple points, and there's just a

438
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<v Speaker 2>ton of evidence to show that. Look, I agree that

439
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<v Speaker 2>we need the nine to eleven files. We've actually gotten

440
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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of top secret files back in the end

441
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<v Speaker 2>of twenty eighteen early twenty nineteen through the dark Overlord weeks.

442
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are unaware of those files. I

443
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<v Speaker 2>covered them at length at the time, but we never

444
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<v Speaker 2>got all of them. And by the way, I don't

445
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<v Speaker 2>believe that all of them would give the full picture

446
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<v Speaker 2>of nine to eleven, but they were certainly giving much

447
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<v Speaker 2>more of a picture and corroborating anomalies that you know,

448
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to have been debunked or disproven, when in

449
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 2>fact they were not. So look nine to eleven to me,

450
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<v Speaker 2>it is still at the crux of the issue. But

451
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:51.279
<v Speaker 2>a guy like Epstein is so important because he even

452
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<v Speaker 2>supersedes nine to eleven in a lot of ways is

453
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<v Speaker 2>a pre nine to eleven guy. And for me, nine

454
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<v Speaker 2>to eleven doesn't occur if you can get actual accountability

455
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<v Speaker 2>into this what And by the way, the term deep state,

456
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>it comes from a leftist everybody. It's Peter Dale Scott,

457
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 2>God love him. He's still around and doing great work.

458
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 2>He's featured in my film Invisible Empire, a New World

459
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Order to find. You can't do that when you have

460
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 2>something like Iron Contra, where for those that don't know

461
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 2>what that is, it's Americans working with Israelis. Okay, a

462
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't know the Israeli network there. The

463
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<v Speaker 2>Israelis bought the weapons. So the Israelis would buy a

464
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 2>bunch of guns from YUGOSLAVII, Slavia and Czechoslovakia and then

465
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>they would ship them down to South America where these

466
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 2>contras that we had trained, Okay, we were training and

467
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 2>by the way, training some of them in Mina, Arkansas,

468
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<v Speaker 2>when Bill Clinton is the governor. Oh, just a Kwinka dank.

469
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Bill Clinton, big cocaine, habit, big

470
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:01.559
<v Speaker 2>cocaine habit, everybody not a secret love the nose Candy.

471
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>His brother gets picked up during that time period, buying

472
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>tons of blow, talking about how his brother has a

473
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 2>nose like a vacuum cleaner. Okay, on tape side issue. So,

474
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<v Speaker 2>so the Israelis are shipping the guns down.

475
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<v Speaker 1>N's cocaine that was found at the White House. Brown,

476
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<v Speaker 1>You think he was sneaking around there.

477
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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I don't know that he was around. I'm sure

478
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of people in that DC universe blowing it up.

479
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't get me wrong. Obviously Hunter is the

480
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>most likely suspect, but you know, it's a free for

481
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.160
<v Speaker 2>all in there. These people are just they can't get

482
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>enough of the stuff that literally turns you into a sociopath.

483
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 2>You want to you want to become a sociopath. And

484
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 2>you don't know how everybody gets a nice cocaine addiction.

485
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I promise, total sociopath.

486
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, cocaine adderall mouth, All.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're one. Right. So they're buying the guns, right,

488
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>and then what we're doing is we're sending CIA ops

489
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>or assets down there to get contraband, cocaine, marijuana, you know,

490
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 2>and other anything they wanted to bring back, and then

491
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 2>we're shipping that up into Mina, into Florida. So it's

492
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:21.279
<v Speaker 2>a big plausible deniability circle. Okay. Now, obviously a ton

493
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 2>of arms are being traded on both ends. So where

494
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>does Jeffrey Epstein actually come into this, Well, he comes

495
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:32.759
<v Speaker 2>in big, actually, So there are two individuals that it's

496
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 2>now been openly reported on it, and I hope people

497
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 2>check it out. It might be harder to get to

498
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.559
<v Speaker 2>this article, but the New York Times, just as this

499
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>new dump was coming out via the Thomas Massey legislation,

500
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 2>did a piece that there's like four other top reporters.

501
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:55.160
<v Speaker 2>They preface it, there's all these conspiracy theories that Jeffrey

502
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Epstein worked for intelligence, and they're like, the truth is

503
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:01.480
<v Speaker 2>much scarier. You know. He was just so charismatic. So

504
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>after bear Stearns, he gets into a relationship with the

505
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>girl that leads him to a guy named Douglas Lease. Okay, Now,

506
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Douglas Lease, anybody can look this up, is an arms

507
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:24.839
<v Speaker 2>dealer and defense contractor heavily embedded in the Iran scandal

508
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.359
<v Speaker 2>that you never heard of. Now at this same time period,

509
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 2>he is literally mentoring Jeffrey Epstein. Okay, He's taking him

510
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 2>with him overseas to do these deals. All right, No

511
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 2>one talks about that in the regards to Lease being

512
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<v Speaker 2>part of this network that was never prosecuted. And remember

513
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>the people they did prosecute in Iran Contra slaps on

514
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<v Speaker 2>the wrist, many pardoned after the fact, and they made

515
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Oliver North the face of it, who became a multi

516
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<v Speaker 2>million dollar TV personality, radio talk show host and pundit.

517
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's how you stop the corruption. And by

518
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the way, even Lee Hamilton, who was part of the investigation,

519
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>also would be part of the Warren Commission. Shocker also

520
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>would be beside Thomas Keen as the leads in the

521
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven Commission report. I have him on television

522
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>in my Iran contrasection of Invisible Empire, talking about how

523
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<v Speaker 2>George Bush Senior was much more heavily involved in the

524
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>whole operation. No kidding, he was helping run it. Okay,

525
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 2>George Bush Senior as the vice President, was helping run

526
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.359
<v Speaker 2>that operation as he was the head of the CIA

527
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and really part of the CIA for decades prior to that.

528
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>All right, so you have this home network and Epstein

529
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>is not only being mentored by Douglas Lease and making

530
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 2>these arm steals, but at this time Epstein's kind of

531
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>getting his hooks into people by dating women whose fathers

532
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>are extremely successful, right or uncle you know, has this network,

533
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 2>he starts handling the finances for ad non Koshogi. Now,

534
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>for those that don't know, Koshogi is this Saudi Arabian

535
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>businessman who's also a huge arms dealer involved in Iran contra. Now,

536
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>another thing that people don't understand about Koshogi and the

537
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 2>relationship to Epstein is Kashogi had a harem of women.

538
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>And when I say women, he married his youngest wife

539
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>at the ripe old age of seventeen. She was some

540
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Italian woman. So again, if you think the Saudi Arabian

541
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>businessman with multiple wives isn't not only utilizing underage girls

542
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.359
<v Speaker 2>in that network, you obviously don't know their culture. So

543
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that's where Epstein got the flavor

544
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>of it. I think that's where he saw that kind

545
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>of networking and both the arms dealing and the profitability.

546
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.960
<v Speaker 2>And he had already been put through you know, this

547
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 2>network of finances through bear Stearns in academia, you know,

548
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 2>all leading to obvious intelligence connections being funded probably by

549
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:28.599
<v Speaker 2>the Central Intelligence Agency and the Israeli Masade on different operations.

550
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>That's what it looks like to me, because again, just

551
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like I told you, right, Iran Contra involved both of

552
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 2>those people. If you look at Mark Rich and his

553
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>relationship as a liaison, there there's another huge contact. You know,

554
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned Saudi Arabia. Remember, Epstein has a passport with

555
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>a totally different identity. Where is he during this time

556
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 2>here Saudi Arabia? Weird if everything's on the up and

557
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 2>up and he's not an arms dealer, that he would

558
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>have a Saudi Arabian passport with a separate identity. Now

559
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 2>it gets This same New York Times article all right, actually,

560
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 2>for the first time ever, reveals that Stanley Pottinger, also

561
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>involved in Iran Contra, is in business with Jeffrey Epstein.

562
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Now let me explain why that is super important. Johnny

563
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Bedmore had done an extensive piece on Stanley Pottinger, probably

564
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 2>a year and a half before this New York Times

565
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 2>piece came out, and he was like alleging that Pottinger

566
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 2>and Jeffrey Epstein not only knew each other and lived

567
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 2>near each other, but they shared an office together. He

568
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 2>couldn't prove they were in business together. Now, Pottinger is

569
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 2>a lawyer that not only worked heavily on the Iran

570
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>contra scandal for narrative management and to kind of cut

571
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>loose ends and all those other things. But guess who

572
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>he starts representing in the twenty tens, do you know, Ryder? No,

573
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 2>he contacts Bradley Edwards, who represents literally dozens of the

574
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Epstein victims. It becomes part of that case as well.

575
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.000
<v Speaker 2>So Pottinger is the l lawyer. Yes, it ends up

576
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 2>being on the inside of all of these deals. And

577
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Bradley Edwards, he's the lawyer that gave that interview to

578
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Derek Brose where he says that Trump is the only

579
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Speaker 2>one that contacted him, which by the way, is actually

580
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:31.800
<v Speaker 2>proven in these emails. Epstein is about to call Donald Trump,

581
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 2>I think, in like twenty ten, twenty eleven about the

582
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Gifray situation, so he knows that he's talking to

583
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Bradley Edwards. But in Edwards's book.

584
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 1>He has Trump at that time because I thought that

585
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 1>him and Trump were on the out.

586
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Then I think it's pretty apparent they're out on the outspy.

587
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Then I think that he's just getting winned that Bradley

588
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Edwards is office is in contact with Trump. So they've

589
00:35:56.519 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 2>already fallen out, but now there are lawsuits. Know how,

590
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 2>these things take time, and so maybe they haven't talked

591
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 2>in a while. I don't know. It doesn't seem like

592
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 2>they're in contact, at least on friendly terms at that time.

593
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Becomes very apparent during the first Trump administration that Epstein

594
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 2>is actively trying to take him out. But that's a

595
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>whole other can of worms we can get into.

596
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about Virginia Girefray, because it seems

597
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:27.119
<v Speaker 1>like that entire case, in her apparent suicide, no one

598
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 1>investigated it.

599
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, everyone was like, whatever.

600
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Kind of just happened, we'll leave it alone. And then

601
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 1>then it was like, oh, well there is no Epstein files.

602
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>It almost seems like they needed to kind of get

603
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>her out of the way because she was funding a

604
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of the Epstein's victims lawsuits. I can go to

605
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.159
<v Speaker 1>five of the six lawsuits that she was funding.

606
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>So just ending on Pottinger. In Bradley Edwards's book, he

607
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 2>asked the very real question. He said, I got the

608
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 2>feeling he was intelligence and one day I just straight

609
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 2>up asked him if he was CIA. All right, So

610
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 2>now you remember and Bradley Edwards was Virginia's lawyer, Like

611
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 2>you were just saying, Okay, so they they're very much involved.

612
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, my buddy Jamie Deluxe just put out this

613
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 2>piece called Nobody's Girl, right, and that is the posthumous

614
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 2>biography autobiography of Virginia Gurfray Roberts, and it had some

615
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:33.159
<v Speaker 2>really interesting things in his piece. Already. I actually contacted

616
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 2>him today. I said, great work. She'd been sexually abused,

617
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.199
<v Speaker 2>according to her, since she was seven years old. Okay,

618
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a different world, folks. That's not something you come

619
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.840
<v Speaker 2>back from that is going to change you for the

620
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 2>rest of your life. Okay. I want to make that

621
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>very clear. It's also alleged that person that started abusing

622
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 2>her at the time was her father. There are even

623
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the questions writer of whether or not her father actually

624
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:05.320
<v Speaker 2>knew of the abuse from Epstein and was taking payments

625
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.440
<v Speaker 2>from Epstein. All right, that's something that is questioned by

626
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the brother. Now we have to understand that Virginia Gufray Roberts,

627
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 2>at a very very young age, is in a viper's nest, Okay.

628
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean she's surrounded by what I call the predator class.

629
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>And this is the part of the predator class that

630
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:33.159
<v Speaker 2>does not only abuse children, but probably is willing to

631
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:38.440
<v Speaker 2>do just about anything they want to continue that abuse.

632
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt that certain people didn't make it.

633
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that she was extremely smart and savvy as

634
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>a part of this group. For those that don't know

635
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>that initial sweetheart deal in Palm Beach, I can tell

636
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you the co conspirators in the Harem network of Epstein.

637
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 2>It's public knowledge. In fact, they're littered through the files.

638
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:10.559
<v Speaker 2>So you had Nadia Marsonkova aka Nadia Marsenko. I'm very

639
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>sympathetic to her. You hear less about her. She is

640
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>allegedly the girl who was bought from her parents in

641
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yugoslavia at fourteen years old. Okay, then you have Sarah Callin,

642
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 2>you have Leslie Groff, and you have Adrianna Ross. I

643
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>would put Virginia in that world, Okay, in that network

644
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 2>of underlings via Glayne Maxwell. You know, I'm sure she

645
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 2>did some very bad and dishonest things as well to

646
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of remain in that circle. So let's get to

647
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 2>her death. Okay. I just want to say that I'm

648
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:52.800
<v Speaker 2>not saying these things off the cuff. I actually did

649
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.519
<v Speaker 2>look into just about everything, and I reported on the

650
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.320
<v Speaker 2>events leading up to her death, including this accident, if

651
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you will, with her being hit by a bus. All right,

652
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure that again people saw that report on

653
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the peripheral.

654
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Now, did you look into that her husband was also

655
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>beating her? Yes, the police report against him in a

656
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 1>restraining order, and then he turned around and filed one

657
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 1>against her, and that's why got her kids taken away

658
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 1>from her.

659
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And well that that's where I was eventually leading

660
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 2>to this.

661
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, no, no.

662
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>No, you're I'm glad you brought that up, because I

663
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 2>think that's really important. You know, this guy that she

664
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>has kids with was also part of the Epstein network

665
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.159
<v Speaker 2>and they kind of escaped together. Well, actually this guy,

666
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I think I think she was in a different country,

667
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be given missus said she wasn't coming back,

668
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and basically she ran off with this guy who would

669
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>also be abusive to her, right, and she had kids with.

670
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, you also set up by Jeffrey Epstein when he

671
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.199
<v Speaker 1>sent her to massage school. That's where she met.

672
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Him, Yes, exactly. Yes, So again I'm not sure how

673
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.039
<v Speaker 2>involved he was with the network, but enough so much

674
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 2>that she was being sent to him, right, Okay, So

675
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Nick Bryant, author of the Franklin cover up, he's also

676
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the guy that originally got the Black Book published in Gawker,

677
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 2>the guy I heavily respect also had talked to Virginia

678
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>many times and other victims behind the scenes and known

679
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>about this serial abuse. And you're right. Basically, she had

680
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.559
<v Speaker 2>lost her kid's custody right around the time of the

681
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 2>very first incident of this bus crash. Now, the first

682
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 2>win anybody gets of this thing is this picture of

683
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>her where she looks beaten and bruised, okay, in a

684
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.559
<v Speaker 2>hospital bed and mentions this accident, and then also mentions

685
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 2>her children and whether she just wants to see her

686
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.400
<v Speaker 2>kids one more time, one of which is like he

687
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:03.800
<v Speaker 2>either was late teens, like nineteen at the time, or

688
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:05.639
<v Speaker 2>even at twenty years old, you know what I mean.

689
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>So as far as custody goes like, it's not real custody,

690
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 2>he just, for whatever reason, you know, was out of

691
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:16.280
<v Speaker 2>the picture. None of us can imagine again. And let

692
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, you know, I come from poverty and

693
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 2>welfare and food stamps, and people go into jail and

694
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 2>women beating stuff and like things get well, luckily no

695
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 2>sexual abuse of the family, but things get wild, Okay,

696
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.679
<v Speaker 2>when you're in that world, it's not easy. You know.

697
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.159
<v Speaker 2>The people do end up killing themselves, people do end

698
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>up committing atrocities. So she posts that, and she posts

699
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 2>the thing about the bus accident, and then in short

700
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>order it gets taken down and the family members or

701
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 2>representatives say that she meant that to be like a

702
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>private post on her Facebook and it went out on

703
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 2>her Instagram. Now, on its face, that sounds like that

704
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 2>that is probably wrong, right, But actually I want people

705
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to take a step back. When you integrate your Facebook

706
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 2>in to your Instagram and you have the auto posting

707
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 2>going on, it does just automatically post it. Now. Actually,

708
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Rider off air, we were kind of talking about the

709
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 2>why I don't love Facebook and how much drama goes

710
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 2>on on it. Right, I could totally see her putting

711
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.199
<v Speaker 2>a Facebook post up there that she knows her kids

712
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 2>might see, or someone you know relate to the ex

713
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 2>husband might see, to try to see those kids again.

714
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 2>And the reason I say that is there's kind of

715
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.840
<v Speaker 2>two competing theories on why she was so badly beaten

716
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in Bruce, Because it wasn't from the bus accident, And

717
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:40.519
<v Speaker 2>I'll explain why in a moment.

718
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Exactly that's what I failed to realize about the bus accident.

719
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 1>The bus accident was a cover for what really happened

720
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to her.

721
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'll just break it down for those that don't

722
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.400
<v Speaker 2>know about this bus accident. Everybody just assumed that she

723
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:01.079
<v Speaker 2>must have gotten super injured and like a car was totaled.

724
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even sure she was in the car, bro

725
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>that's the whole She wasn't so so if she was.

726
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Forever did not see her in the car. There was

727
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 1>nobody else in the car. It was just an older woman.

728
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 1>The car wasn't even damaged that bad. It was basically

729
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 1>like a little side swipe, little finder bender. The police

730
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:23.079
<v Speaker 1>didn't show up to the accident. What is going on, Jason?

731
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.679
<v Speaker 2>And and the other really weird thing was that the driver,

732
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 2>who essentially was the caretaker at the million dollar estate

733
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:40.920
<v Speaker 2>in Australia that Virginia owned from the successful lawsuit of Andrew,

734
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 2>she she actually collected the tailgate off the ground like

735
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 2>that's that was the extent of the accident, right, And

736
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>again I don't know she was in the car, but

737
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.880
<v Speaker 2>if she was, certainly this elderly woman was one hundred

738
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 2>percent physically fine, and there's no ambulance. Like said, there's

739
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>no way Virginia Gufrey Roberts got injured from that, right,

740
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 2>So I think there is the you know, I don't

741
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:11.679
<v Speaker 2>see any signs of foul play in this one. I

742
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 2>think that she just got driven mad. Money don't buy happiness.

743
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Everybody listen, it can make things easier. I'm not against

744
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:22.280
<v Speaker 2>money or things like that, but if you think that,

745
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, again, ten times out of ten, if you're

746
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 2>not a psychopath or sociopath, you're going to choose your family,

747
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 2>especially your kids, over money and the idea that she

748
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>had alienated her kids or gotten into this horrible relationship

749
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 2>with an ex husband that she probably saw as the enemy.

750
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I tend to lean that she absolutely did kill herself

751
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.800
<v Speaker 2>in ntill I see other evidence suggesting otherwise. You know her,

752
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I think her brothers were also up there at the time,

753
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, leading more credence that.

754
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 1>The thing about the entire thing is your brothers are

755
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 1>super weird. It's difficult to you're out of her brothers

756
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.519
<v Speaker 1>or real brothers, biological brothers, half brothers, because the family

757
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>lineage is so weird.

758
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Family. Bro, That's what I'm trying to say. You know,

759
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.719
<v Speaker 2>even listening to the brother sit there and talk about

760
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the possibility of the father abusing him, I just hear

761
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:22.800
<v Speaker 2>abuse in that guy's voice, right, Like he sounds like

762
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.880
<v Speaker 2>another person that was abused. Look, man, when we're talking

763
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>about the control of people, trauma is numero. You know,

764
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.519
<v Speaker 2>it's number one. It's the number one stunter in families,

765
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 2>in manipulative personal relationships, and in relations work relationships, and

766
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>especially relationships by the government and people like Epstein. So

767
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think we always have to take that

768
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 2>into account. You know, these documents and especially listen that

769
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's Girl is really super interesting because it was only

770
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 2>the first time outside of interviewing the biographer of Alan Dershowitz,

771
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.199
<v Speaker 2>and this guy got is a young kid. He got

772
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>real access to Dershowitz, and so I asked him obviously

773
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the Epstein Dershowitz question. And by the way, Dershowitz has

774
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 2>a brother that he's totally estranged from that he also

775
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 2>did an interview with and the brother's like, yeah, basically,

776
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 2>my brother's a piece of shit. He loved being aroun

777
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 2>these people. You know, he's getting what he deserves. He

778
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 2>loved being around power and money. But dersh you know,

779
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 2>he says, that's my one big regret ever being involved

780
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.519
<v Speaker 2>with Epstein. And then when asked about the less Wexner relationship,

781
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 2>because Wexner is probably you know, you know, he's got

782
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>way more money and power and influence than Epstein. He's

783
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.400
<v Speaker 2>the one that's given him this New York estate there,

784
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, seem to be in business together ten dollars

785
00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>for that mansion in New York. Dershowitz told him there

786
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 2>were rumors that Wexner and Epstein were having a sexual

787
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.239
<v Speaker 2>relationship and Epstein was blackmailing him through that. Now, I

788
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of dismissed that as disinfo. But in this Nobody's

789
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Girl book, Virginia Gufray Roberts alludes to the fact that

790
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 2>there was one guy, Les Wexner, that wasn't really interested

791
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.039
<v Speaker 2>in her sexually when they were doing these things and instead, would,

792
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, sexually approach Jeffrey Epstein. They were the ones

793
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that were touching intimately.

794
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Who that's freaking weird. Now when it comes to Virginia Giffrey,

795
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>because I did a giant series on this and this

796
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:46.280
<v Speaker 1>is just my thoughts in my analysis of the entire situation,

797
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that is it's a possibility that it was

798
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 1>her husband that killed her when you take into account

799
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 1>everything that happened, the restraining order that she fouled, and

800
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 1>then her her brother, her brother's wife coming out and

801
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 1>saying that the last time that she had talked of

802
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Virginia said that if she was in another one of

803
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 1>these situations with her husband, she might not make it

804
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 1>out of live. That might explain her Instagram posts or

805
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Facebook post that you know, she knew that if she

806
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>gets into another one of these bounts with her husband

807
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:25.599
<v Speaker 1>and she's released from the hospital, and that she was

808
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital because her husband actually beat her to

809
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 1>an inch of her life, and she knew whenever she

810
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.039
<v Speaker 1>got released that he would end up killing her. So

811
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's not direct evidence, but there's a lot

812
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.400
<v Speaker 1>of circumstantial evidence. Once you go through and you read

813
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff and everything that was going on

814
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.079
<v Speaker 1>with her and her husband, things start to kind of

815
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 1>make sense that it could that he could be the

816
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 1>one that actually delivered the final blow. But it's also

817
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, could be could like you said, she could

818
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>have just been suicide. There's been several of these Epstein

819
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:01.760
<v Speaker 1>victims that have died under mistake, various circumstances. Now you

820
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.360
<v Speaker 1>could chalk that up to the being drug addicts, because

821
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I saw what a lot of them, and the Virginia

822
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Giffrey case turns out to be was her swallowing a

823
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>bunch of pills, just like all the other Epstein victims,

824
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.119
<v Speaker 1>except one, I think the jump out of a window

825
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 1>or something.

826
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, also Brunell, I mean, he's not a victim, but

827
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, he dies in a prison in Paris, France,

828
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.199
<v Speaker 2>and it actually just came out that he was about

829
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 2>to testify against Jeffrey Epstein secretly in this case that

830
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:37.079
<v Speaker 2>they were building via the sdn Y. So look, obviously,

831
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 2>obviously there are things to look into via this case,

832
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:48.599
<v Speaker 2>the Virginia Guffray Roberts thing. It's tough because a lot

833
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 2>of people like to also point to the fact that,

834
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, she had accused both Dershowitz and Wexner of

835
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 2>certain things that she had to drop, right, and it

836
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:02.039
<v Speaker 2>does seem like in those emails else she is, you know,

837
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 2>doing some some setups in here as well. We also

838
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 2>have to realize she was a teenage kid when she

839
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:11.519
<v Speaker 2>got brought into this network, right, and she's literally being

840
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:15.559
<v Speaker 2>dragged around the world and uh, you know, partied out.

841
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 2>And that's a I mean, a terrible way to put

842
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it to all these very very powerful people, including Andrew, right,

843
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 2>like Andrew certainly knows saint, but like compared to some

844
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 2>of these other monsters, like in the book and as

845
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Meta reports, compared to like an ahoed Baraqu, I mean

846
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 2>it's night and day, you know, a hood Baraq allegedly

847
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.320
<v Speaker 2>strangled this girl to the point where she thought she

848
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>was gonna die. Very scary stuff.

849
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it almost it kind of tracks that that it

850
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 1>could be the husband that was involved with this, and

851
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the thing that makes the most sense

852
00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>other than it being suicide. But there are two other

853
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 1>victims that died by suicide in Florida after testifying against

854
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Justline Maxwell. They died of ods in hotel rooms in

855
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Palm Beach, Florida, very close together. So it's like this

856
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>weird thing of people. It's almost like the jfk assassination, Right,

857
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 1>there's so many weird things going on. All the people

858
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:28.760
<v Speaker 1>ended up dying that were witnesses in strange things. Also

859
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:31.480
<v Speaker 1>with Stanley Kubrick as well, and as White. A lot

860
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of the people that said that they had different cuts

861
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 1>to Stanley Kubrick's eyes White Shot movie all ended up

862
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>dying between ninety nine and in two thousand and four

863
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.079
<v Speaker 1>of really strange and weird circumstances, car accidents like all

864
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. But the weird thing with Virginia Giffrey was

865
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 1>is that I was under the impression because several people,

866
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>right as when that car accident happened, several people reached

867
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 1>out to me. It was like, Virginia Giffrey just died

868
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.360
<v Speaker 1>in this car accident. Did you get that? No, when

869
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that happened, I swear to you, bro.

870
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I had people in the comments saying, like after

871
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 2>they saw the photograph, that she was dead and that

872
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.039
<v Speaker 2>this was a setup, and like, I saw that, but

873
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have anybody personally contact me like that, I

874
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>like as a source.

875
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember in an article saying that she died

876
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 1>in the car crash, and then two weeks later whenever

877
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.159
<v Speaker 1>she really died for real. And I'm not saying this

878
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 1>is a mandela if I don't believe in mandela, if

879
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just our memory, right, But it's just weird.

880
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.519
<v Speaker 1>How I remember seeing that she had died in the

881
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>car accident, which I was talking with people. I was like,

882
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:48.079
<v Speaker 1>the bus was going fifty five miles per hour. How

883
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>did this kill her? It wasn't even that bad of

884
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a car accident, Like, how did she die in this

885
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 1>car crash? And then I was kind of shocked, which

886
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 1>then led me to investigate and look into all this

887
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff and look into her family background in her genealogy.

888
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I got a I had to get a subscription to

889
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the freaking genealogy websites so I could track

890
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:12.519
<v Speaker 1>her family history. And it's so freaking complicated, dude, so

891
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 1>much stuff going on with it. But that's what prompted

892
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.280
<v Speaker 1>me to look into it. To the in the very beginning, right,

893
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I would just kind of wrote it off.

894
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Was that I remember.

895
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Reading and people reaching out to me that she died

896
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 1>in the car accident. And then I was even more shocked.

897
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Two weeks later, after she was released to the hospital,

898
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>we got it again that she had died. It's almost

899
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>like that, you know that viral video that's going around

900
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 1>right now about that naval officer, that Navy seal that's

901
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.840
<v Speaker 1>yelling inside of the courtroom and it was like, won't

902
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 1>fight for Israel, I won't die for Israel. That really

903
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:50.199
<v Speaker 1>big one this quay, I remember that exact same thing happening.

904
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.639
<v Speaker 2>I've not seen her. No, I haven't seen that one yet.

905
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's really popula is going around and I'm like,

906
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.639
<v Speaker 1>is this deja vu? I remember seeing this exact vaccine

907
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:01.760
<v Speaker 1>thing like a year ago.

908
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Not sure about that. But let's hit some of the point.

909
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Because you talked about drugs, right, and again, a lot

910
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:14.280
<v Speaker 2>of these girls that were recruited recruited because they did

911
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 2>have drug issues, they did come from bad families, they

912
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:23.519
<v Speaker 2>could be more and more exploited, et cetera. But you know,

913
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.760
<v Speaker 2>first and first and foremost in the drug aspect, I

914
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.960
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people have broken their jump to

915
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 2>conclusions matt out on the coded language surrounding jerky or

916
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 2>pizza and all these other things. Now, I'm not saying

917
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:42.159
<v Speaker 2>that some of it can't be human trafficking, but one

918
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.920
<v Speaker 2>of the big things that you find, like in Iran contra,

919
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.280
<v Speaker 2>when you're dealing with guns, you're dealing with drugs. And

920
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:51.679
<v Speaker 2>when you're dealing with drugs and guns, you're also dealing

921
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 2>with sex. Women girls, boys, all of it, all of

922
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:59.800
<v Speaker 2>it gets trafficked together, all of it gets utilized in

923
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 2>are in manners. And for instance, you know, I just

924
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Prince Andrew and a hood Barack. Although everybody knows

925
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:11.360
<v Speaker 2>that Prince Andrew's part of the royal family and A

926
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 2>hood Barack was the Prime Minister of Israel, what they

927
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:18.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know is they were both their nation's arms dealers.

928
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 2>So Prince Andrew, you know big in the NATO, he

929
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.320
<v Speaker 2>was the UK's arms dealer. There are wiki leaks out

930
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:29.199
<v Speaker 2>there where he's basically pissed when they go around him

931
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 2>because he was taking huge kickbacks in that. And A

932
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 2>hood Barack was not only the Prime Minister, but the

933
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Israeli Defense Minister as well. And that'll segue into kind

934
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.800
<v Speaker 2>of the drugs in a moment. So there's a clip

935
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 2>of Lewis Black, the comedian on that They Might be

936
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Drunk podcast, talking about going to Epstein's house. And this

937
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.360
<v Speaker 2>is I believe late nineties, maybe early two thousands, right,

938
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 2>and he's being taken there with other comedians, one of

939
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 2>which is in the emails Bobby Slayton, and he's in

940
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 2>a pizza email. And we'll get there in a moment

941
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that's while we'll talk about code of language. But Lewis

942
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Black is there. He doesn't see, you know, anything the

943
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.360
<v Speaker 2>various everybody's having dinner. He thinks Gallaide Maxwell was there

944
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.760
<v Speaker 2>because there is an older woman that's who he assumes

945
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:23.239
<v Speaker 2>is Jeffrey Epstein's girlfriend. Epstein takes him into the other

946
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:27.360
<v Speaker 2>room and he asks Lewis Black if he knows what

947
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:30.079
<v Speaker 2>that is. He points up at a whiteboard. Lewis Black's

948
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:33.519
<v Speaker 2>like no, and he's like, I was discussing weapons systems

949
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:38.480
<v Speaker 2>with the Israeli defense minister last night. So again, you

950
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.559
<v Speaker 2>know Epstein's got these white You're not discussing that unless

951
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>you're making money on it and cutting those deals. So,

952
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:50.159
<v Speaker 2>like I mentioned, Lewis Black took was taken there with

953
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:54.079
<v Speaker 2>a guy named Bobby Slayton. Bobby Slayton not with us anymore.

954
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Pretty funny comedian. He's in one of my all time

955
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:03.079
<v Speaker 2>favorite Kirby Enthusiasm episodes. He's in the Magical Pussy episode

956
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 2>where he's out to I think lunch with all the

957
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 2>guys and he's talking about his wife and her magical vagina,

958
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.119
<v Speaker 2>and everybody's kind of listening, and then he drops dead.

959
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:17.400
<v Speaker 2>So in true Larry David and Everybody's fashion, they all

960
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:22.559
<v Speaker 2>want to bang his wife. So great episode, go watch it.

961
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.159
<v Speaker 2>The reason I bring Slayton up is because he's in

962
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:30.639
<v Speaker 2>a pizza email with Leslie Groth and Slayton is the

963
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 2>one asking Leslie Groth if she wants pizza. Okay, he

964
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:38.800
<v Speaker 2>wants to bring a pizza now obvious. I think Slayton's

965
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.599
<v Speaker 2>coming from across the country into New York. He may

966
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:47.079
<v Speaker 2>even be staying at this other place that not just

967
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:50.360
<v Speaker 2>the mansion, but Epstein essentially had a residence in New

968
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 2>York where he would keep people that he would fly in.

969
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:56.519
<v Speaker 2>They would share rooms or whatever. And Slayton's asking her

970
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 2>if she wants him to bring him her her a pizza,

971
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:04.199
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, ha haha, no, but thanks for asking.

972
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Obviously not pizza. But is it cocaine? Is it some

973
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of ecstasy? Is another type of drug? I'd say

974
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 2>ninety plus percent that one's a drug email, right, Like,

975
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:21.639
<v Speaker 2>if not, you know something, it seems like it's a

976
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:24.519
<v Speaker 2>drug email. That's what I think Bobby Slayton could provide,

977
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 2>not a child. As far as the jerky stuff. Okay, again,

978
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it sure is suspicious. They keep talking

979
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Speaker 2>about it in these fashions. But for instance, that very

980
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:40.039
<v Speaker 2>first one that caught everybody's attention about the Cannibal restaurant, right,

981
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:46.000
<v Speaker 2>turns out everybody again, people are weirdos, especially in California

982
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and New York. And the Cannibal restaurant did exist in

983
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:53.400
<v Speaker 2>New York, so there, it's a real place. It been

984
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:57.920
<v Speaker 2>shut down. It was high end cuisine. And the cook

985
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.679
<v Speaker 2>that they're talking about is a guy named Francis Derby.

986
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.440
<v Speaker 2>So Francis Derby's in the emails well over a thousand times.

987
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a different chef from the one that Joe Rogan

988
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.360
<v Speaker 2>knows that people are kind of upset about. I will

989
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:17.599
<v Speaker 2>say this again, Jamie Deluxe doing God's work out there

990
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:22.159
<v Speaker 2>in the Nobody's Girl episode or book, she talks about

991
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>not Francis Derby, the Cannibal chef, but the other chef

992
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:30.760
<v Speaker 2>that people know, and she talks about how, by far

993
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:34.800
<v Speaker 2>he was the most human amongst everybody, like he would

994
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 2>look at her in the eye, like she basically talks

995
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.840
<v Speaker 2>about how Epstein would have everybody walking around naked all

996
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:42.239
<v Speaker 2>the time, like you know, these girls were property right

997
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:46.320
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, you know, he never oggled me, even

998
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 2>when I was walking around naked. He always looked me

999
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 2>in the eye. Epstein apparently had a strict diet for

1000
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:56.559
<v Speaker 2>these girls, which again you read these emails, that seems

1001
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 2>to be real one to keep them in a certain shape.

1002
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:02.400
<v Speaker 2>He would sneak for j gray other types of food. Uh,

1003
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 2>he's not the one involved in a lot of these

1004
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.719
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote jerky emails. But I just want everybody to

1005
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:11.280
<v Speaker 2>know that we know who the actual chef is. And

1006
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:14.519
<v Speaker 2>he actually did work at a restaurant called The Cannibal.

1007
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 2>So watch out when you break out those jump to

1008
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:22.880
<v Speaker 2>conclusions mats. Now, once again, I've read the Podesta emails.

1009
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:28.000
<v Speaker 2>They're very spooky. They got some really weird things in there.

1010
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:33.760
<v Speaker 2>What for me is beyond weird and beyond coded language,

1011
01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 2>is that you've got the names of the Lozado kids,

1012
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.239
<v Speaker 2>and you've got their ages. You know, two of them

1013
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:43.000
<v Speaker 2>under the age of ten years old be an uber

1014
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to a farm to be in a heated pool for

1015
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 2>the entertainment of those on this mass email. That's not

1016
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:56.880
<v Speaker 2>how you talked about children. First of all, you don't

1017
01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:00.000
<v Speaker 2>let like an eleven, nine and seven year old uber

1018
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 2>or somewhere without an adult and it's certainly not to

1019
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:08.239
<v Speaker 2>a party on a farm to make sure that they

1020
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:12.400
<v Speaker 2>were there for entertainment purposes and assure everybody that they

1021
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:18.320
<v Speaker 2>will be in that pool for sure. Or those are

1022
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the Podesta emails. So if no one's read that email,

1023
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.679
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what kind of a funny story. The

1024
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:28.119
<v Speaker 2>good people at the New York Times, who I've had

1025
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:30.679
<v Speaker 2>many an encounter with over the many years that I've

1026
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:36.760
<v Speaker 2>been doing this, they contacted me at one point when

1027
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:40.760
<v Speaker 2>those emails, the WikiLeaks emails had come out and they

1028
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 2>were doing a hit piece on Alex Jones, and they'd

1029
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.480
<v Speaker 2>known that I'd worked for Alex Jones for a while.

1030
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So I responded to them. I said, oh, I would

1031
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 2>be happy to do an interview as soon as your

1032
01:02:55.159 --> 01:03:02.159
<v Speaker 2>newspaper publishes this email and m the Lozado email. They

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01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 2>didn't even try to contact me again after that. That

1034
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.440
<v Speaker 2>was the stone cold done. They just they're not even

1035
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.159
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want to dignify that with a response because

1036
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:11.920
<v Speaker 2>they knew it wasn't gonna look good for them. They

1037
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:15.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't I don't think they even wanted to acknowledge that

1038
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:18.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the reporters had that specific email right in

1039
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:20.920
<v Speaker 2>front of their face and would have to address it

1040
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:26.360
<v Speaker 2>because especially in that situation, you find me one and

1041
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:35.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking one mainstream outlet, print, video or online, any

1042
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:39.719
<v Speaker 2>any of their formats CNN, ABC, NBC, Fox News that

1043
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:42.760
<v Speaker 2>published that email or read it on air. Never happened,

1044
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Never happened. Disgusting.

1045
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really is disgusting, and I think they kind

1046
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of ignored it because it was released on what was

1047
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that third party, not the four chan but the wiki leaks.

1048
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.199
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, when things are released not like that,

1049
01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:07.320
<v Speaker 1>then it's okay to comment on them, because that means

1050
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that it's approved for everybody to comment on right. But

1051
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:16.199
<v Speaker 1>when it's released, you know, not in an official capacity

1052
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 1>to what they call the CNN journalism or than New

1053
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:22.800
<v Speaker 1>York Times journalists, you know what I mean, then they

1054
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:24.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like that they don't have to comment on it.

1055
01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:27.440
<v Speaker 1>But it's turning out that a lot of those Podesta emails.

1056
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen Hillary and Bill Clinton in their deposition?

1057
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>So I've not watched all four hours of each I

1058
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:39.480
<v Speaker 2>need to. I've only watched even an hour of the

1059
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:43.360
<v Speaker 2>less Wexner stuff. I need to do. Watch alongs with

1060
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.639
<v Speaker 2>my audience on these things, because that's the first forty

1061
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:50.079
<v Speaker 2>minutes of me watching Wexner. I mean, I I'm first

1062
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:53.840
<v Speaker 2>of all again winning in the court of public opinion

1063
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and having just like a few people with a spine

1064
01:04:57.079 --> 01:05:00.440
<v Speaker 2>within the government system. Thomas Massey, the main person him

1065
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.559
<v Speaker 2>is why we're here. So and I don't like to

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01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 2>call myself black pilt as a guy even watching Did

1067
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 2>you watch the first ten minutes of the Wexner won

1068
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:11.000
<v Speaker 2>by chance?

1069
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:15.000
<v Speaker 1>No? I did not. I didn't know that he actually

1070
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.320
<v Speaker 1>had to go and do the deposition.

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01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they came to him. But bro, I'm sitting

1072
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 2>there just watching the first ten minutes before they even

1073
01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:26.599
<v Speaker 2>get started, and I'm literally yelling out to myself like

1074
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm at like a sports event, you know, like as

1075
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:32.920
<v Speaker 2>excited as people get for like a baseball game or whatever.

1076
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I can't He can't believe he's there, dude, he can't

1077
01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:40.159
<v Speaker 2>even believe he's there. Like he's in shock that this

1078
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:43.119
<v Speaker 2>moment has come. Now. He probably knows he's not going

1079
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:45.639
<v Speaker 2>to but he can't even believe it's this far. Like

1080
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:50.079
<v Speaker 2>he's before they're getting him going. He needs a warm coffee.

1081
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:53.679
<v Speaker 2>He's got a slew of lawyer's there. The one lawyer

1082
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.920
<v Speaker 2>says something to him. He looks really nervously. He's biting

1083
01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:59.920
<v Speaker 2>on his tongue. He winks at the lawyer, like when

1084
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I ask him about Jeffrey Epstein and intelligence and whether

1085
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 2>it was never said, he goes, no, never, and he

1086
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:09.519
<v Speaker 2>goes the I think it was Blanche or one of

1087
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 2>these people goes all right, let's move on, and right

1088
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.000
<v Speaker 2>away you see him relieved and he goes yes, Lets

1089
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:18.400
<v Speaker 2>like it's it's like better than the best stand up

1090
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:21.480
<v Speaker 2>comedy if you've been following this stuff and you know,

1091
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:25.000
<v Speaker 2>like the actual links and like what a cartoon show

1092
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:27.760
<v Speaker 2>we're in, I mean, And the one clip of Clinton

1093
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 2>has gone viral when he's asked about photos with Epstein

1094
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:34.599
<v Speaker 2>and he can't it looks good and he's I have

1095
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:37.280
<v Speaker 2>a little smile, a little sh can't help had a

1096
01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:41.760
<v Speaker 2>good time there, Like like they can't help themselves, right,

1097
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Like Bill Clinton didn't doesn't think he did anything wrong, right,

1098
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 2>he's insulted he's even there. And the other thing is

1099
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:55.800
<v Speaker 2>like these people are old enough right where they can't

1100
01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:59.119
<v Speaker 2>help themselves, right, Like you're gonna see a little bit

1101
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 2>through the facade now let me say this about Wexner. Uh,

1102
01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, he tries to portray himself throughout or like

1103
01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 2>his lawyers have tried to coach him. He's just a

1104
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:13.880
<v Speaker 2>little old man. He was taken advantage of by Jeffrey. Like,

1105
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:18.400
<v Speaker 2>this is a guy that built a Victoria's secret empire

1106
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and became a geopolitical player with the Wexner Foundation globally

1107
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.559
<v Speaker 2>and got into the billionaire Megagree, He's just a little

1108
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.280
<v Speaker 2>old man. He just fell It's a pretty remarkable fell

1109
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:34.519
<v Speaker 2>into it. The moment he starts talking, Leslie Wexner okay,

1110
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and he says more than a sentence, it is super

1111
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:40.599
<v Speaker 2>apparent this guy is sharp as shit. Like he is,

1112
01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, in his old age, he is still like

1113
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you would beg for a Joe Biden to have half

1114
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the cognition that this guy has have a quarter of

1115
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the I mean, he is still slick. And that is why,

1116
01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:59.199
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, he ends up talking too much. And

1117
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:03.119
<v Speaker 2>that's why, like four hours in you see that lawyer

1118
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:07.800
<v Speaker 2>dip into les Wexner's ear and goes, if you fucking

1119
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:11.360
<v Speaker 2>say more than five words again, I will fucking kill you.

1120
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Because again they're trying to portray this guy as a

1121
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:19.439
<v Speaker 2>naive dude that was taken advantage of by Jeffrey Epstein

1122
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and not a friend and partner. And it is very

1123
01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:26.319
<v Speaker 2>clear that is more of the relationship that they had. Now.

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01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I also want to make it clear it doesn't seem

1125
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:35.359
<v Speaker 2>like Epstein ever feels like he is a subordinate to anybody.

1126
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that he definitely will take the acolyte role

1127
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:44.199
<v Speaker 2>right in the sense that he's willing to be mentored

1128
01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:47.359
<v Speaker 2>by other people. But when you get Jeffrey Epstein in

1129
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:53.239
<v Speaker 2>a room, Jeffrey Epstein fully fully believes, okay, he is

1130
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:55.319
<v Speaker 2>the smartest guy in the room, and that he is

1131
01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:57.199
<v Speaker 2>going to make the most impact. And why do I

1132
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.960
<v Speaker 2>say that? Writer? Did you have to watch the two

1133
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 2>hours of the fifteen to eighteen hour Bannon interview that's

1134
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:05.520
<v Speaker 2>out there.

1135
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I did, and I honestly liked it. I enjoyed it.

1136
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:13.199
<v Speaker 1>I thought that it was good.

1137
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Well again, Bannon is being hired to try to kind

1138
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:25.319
<v Speaker 2>of reform the public perception of Epstein in that.

1139
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:27.960
<v Speaker 1>But one of the most wasn't that supposed to be

1140
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.039
<v Speaker 1>like a fourteen hour long interview?

1141
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.239
<v Speaker 2>It is? It's fifteen to eighteen hours, And the big

1142
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 2>question is why is only that two hours out? Like

1143
01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:39.359
<v Speaker 2>you would assume the Justice Department has all eighteen hours

1144
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:42.079
<v Speaker 2>since Bannon's riddled through the files, right, and he's had

1145
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:45.079
<v Speaker 2>to work with them. The Justice Department's actually been imprisoned

1146
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:47.520
<v Speaker 2>by them, and we only have that two hour It's

1147
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:50.600
<v Speaker 2>very bizarre. I'm waiting on the other, you know again,

1148
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.640
<v Speaker 2>fourteen to seventeen hours. But the point maybe.

1149
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein is smarter than Steve Bannon, Like he was

1150
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:01.720
<v Speaker 1>actively dumbing himself down to try and explain things to

1151
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Steve Bannon, and Steve Bannon just was not getting it.

1152
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I think Bannon's playing a part there because they've already

1153
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:10.439
<v Speaker 2>had conversations of where they wanted to go, but then

1154
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Bannon interjects every once in a while. So like my

1155
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:16.920
<v Speaker 2>point being like when Bannon does try to interject, especially

1156
01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:21.239
<v Speaker 2>on finances, right, he's talking to him about subprime loans

1157
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:25.399
<v Speaker 2>and the two thousand and eight housing market and the crashes,

1158
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and he's you know, talking about also in the regards

1159
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to Jeffrey Epstein being in jail and what phone call

1160
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:32.600
<v Speaker 2>he's making, right, Yeah, But it's.

1161
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Just interesting because Jeffrey Epstein is talking about how the

1162
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:41.880
<v Speaker 1>freaking financial system works, Like why would you not ask

1163
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:46.640
<v Speaker 1>him better questions, the better explain how the financial system.

1164
01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Works, because it's not about that, bro, it was about it.

1165
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:52.479
<v Speaker 3>Back to the whole freaking weren't you really upset when

1166
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:55.880
<v Speaker 3>you were in jail? Well again because ten times yeah,

1167
01:10:55.920 --> 01:11:02.079
<v Speaker 3>because Bannon's being paid by him. That's for Jeffrey Epste. Okay, guys,

1168
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:05.199
<v Speaker 3>there is no doubt like that. That's a pr move.

1169
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.159
<v Speaker 3>That's why he reached out to Bannon to do it

1170
01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:12.039
<v Speaker 3>for like the illusion that it was a hardcore interview. No,

1171
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:14.479
<v Speaker 3>it's all pre planned, but like every once in a while,

1172
01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 3>he throws something in there. And this is where the

1173
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:19.119
<v Speaker 3>ego gets in on Epstein. That really came out to

1174
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:20.439
<v Speaker 3>me is.

1175
01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:25.720
<v Speaker 2>When Bannon is talking about finances and Epstein goes, nobody

1176
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:28.119
<v Speaker 2>really knows, right, he starts talking about nobody knows when

1177
01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the crash is coming, and then Bannon lists off like

1178
01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:34.960
<v Speaker 2>a dozen different people in the economic field and he goes,

1179
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, who would you say is smarter than you

1180
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:41.039
<v Speaker 2>be able to predict it? And Epstein looks at him

1181
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I'm sure there is somebody, but I

1182
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:47.920
<v Speaker 2>can't think of him. I can't think of him right now. No,

1183
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you don't think anybody smarter than you bro at all,

1184
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Like you can tell and remember Steve is also playing it.

1185
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:56.800
<v Speaker 2>You're a smart guy. How many times does Steve Bannon

1186
01:11:56.840 --> 01:11:59.359
<v Speaker 2>call him a smart guy in that interview?

1187
01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Look later on, but in the beginning he says, how

1188
01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:05.000
<v Speaker 1>does a dim witted person like you get involved with

1189
01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:09.039
<v Speaker 1>the rock? It's like he's hitting them, he's front loading

1190
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:12.079
<v Speaker 1>them with like derogatory things. And then later on as

1191
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the interview progresses, he's like, oh, you're super smart, Jeffrey,

1192
01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:19.720
<v Speaker 1>just because he said that no one knows how the

1193
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:23.119
<v Speaker 1>financial system works that like it doesn't. It's a very

1194
01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:26.840
<v Speaker 1>strange interview. I was seeing that I liked it and

1195
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that I thought that it was good to be advantageous.

1196
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:32.720
<v Speaker 2>But it's look, we need things like that, just like

1197
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:36.000
<v Speaker 2>we need the Glene Maxwell testimony. Not because they're necessarily

1198
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:41.159
<v Speaker 2>telling the truth, but it gives an insight to their mindset,

1199
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:45.119
<v Speaker 2>and it gives other like for instance, you know, he

1200
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.359
<v Speaker 2>started that interview talking about the relationship with David Rockefeller,

1201
01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:52.640
<v Speaker 2>right Actually in that same New York Times piece that

1202
01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I discussed with you earlier, with Douglas Lease, and Stanley Pottinger.

1203
01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:59.800
<v Speaker 2>The tail end of it is that meeting with David

1204
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Rockefeller and being brought into the Trilateral Commission. Now we

1205
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.600
<v Speaker 2>knowed he was part of the Trilateral Commission. Nobody at

1206
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:10.079
<v Speaker 2>that point knew he had a personal relationship with David

1207
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Rockefeller until you saw that Epstein interview or read this article.

1208
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:19.119
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people don't know this about Rockefeller. He

1209
01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:24.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of became the face of the Rockefellers and globalism

1210
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:30.319
<v Speaker 2>because they sent him off to naval intelligence. Rockefeller was

1211
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:35.000
<v Speaker 2>like a meticulous guy. In fact, Rockefeller had his own

1212
01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Dewey decimal card system for everybody that he met. Go

1213
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:43.319
<v Speaker 2>look this up. It's really interesting. So in the Rockefeller

1214
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.439
<v Speaker 2>archives in New York, they're slowly releasing some of these,

1215
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.399
<v Speaker 2>but not all of them. In fact, you can see

1216
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:52.880
<v Speaker 2>where he meets Henry Kissinger for the first time and

1217
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Kissinger gets on board, and it's nineteen fifty four at

1218
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the initial Builderberg meeting, and of course a Kissinger will become,

1219
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:04.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, the head of Rockefeller Associates, would be extremely

1220
01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:07.680
<v Speaker 2>influential up until his death less than what like half

1221
01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:10.279
<v Speaker 2>a decade ago. I mean, this guy's still meeting Trump

1222
01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:16.520
<v Speaker 2>while he's in office. So Rockefeller really really smart guy,

1223
01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:20.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm super interested to know and see one day

1224
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:25.600
<v Speaker 2>what the Jeffrey Epstein index cards has because it has

1225
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:30.720
<v Speaker 2>to exist because Rockefeller is that dude. Everybody go look

1226
01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:33.760
<v Speaker 2>him up and go look up his little card system

1227
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:34.239
<v Speaker 2>for people.

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01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a really interesting aspect of the entire interview.

1229
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing was just so weird, bro, Like, he

1230
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.840
<v Speaker 1>went so many different directions. He was talking about how

1231
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.159
<v Speaker 1>we want to be able to measure the unexplainable things

1232
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:52.880
<v Speaker 1>with science and like that. He's always interested in, like

1233
01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:57.119
<v Speaker 1>basically a cult and esoteric things. Like midway point of

1234
01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the interview, I'm like, what is going on here? Very

1235
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.199
<v Speaker 1>strange interview. I wish I would release the rest of it.

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01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.640
<v Speaker 1>We need those other hours. I would love to hear

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01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:09.079
<v Speaker 1>what else and what other things I got into in

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01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:10.319
<v Speaker 1>the rest of that conversation.

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01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I want them. I've been I was an

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01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:17.720
<v Speaker 2>advocate before they came out. In fact, we know a

1241
01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:22.640
<v Speaker 2>couple things that he says in that interview or interviews

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01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:27.319
<v Speaker 2>that have not been public. For instance, Steve Bannon several

1243
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:30.720
<v Speaker 2>years ago. Man, it could be five six years ago now,

1244
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:33.680
<v Speaker 2>it was after Jeffrey Epstein's death, but he put out

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01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:38.359
<v Speaker 2>a trailer called The Monsters, and in that trailer he

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01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:44.319
<v Speaker 2>says to Jeffrey Epstein, you have an island. Jeffrey Epstein

1247
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:47.520
<v Speaker 2>corrects him and says, a couple islands. So a lot

1248
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:49.560
<v Speaker 2>of people know about Little Saint James. Apparently he has

1249
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:55.800
<v Speaker 2>another island. And then Steve Bannon replies, Islands of Doctor Morrell,

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01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:01.399
<v Speaker 2>and Epstein replies, that's correct. Now for those that don't

1251
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:04.439
<v Speaker 2>know what that is, a reference to the Island of

1252
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Moreau is a novel turned into a movie where

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01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:15.039
<v Speaker 2>they are doing human animal genetic testing and experimentation. And

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01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:18.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, essentially, you know from these files that he

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01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:23.840
<v Speaker 2>is obsessed with transhumanism, that he is talking to people

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01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:29.199
<v Speaker 2>like Richard Branson and others about cloning, cloning himself in

1257
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:35.039
<v Speaker 2>particular using these type of clones for spare parts, and

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01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:40.159
<v Speaker 2>he's in contact I believe it was with Ben gerzel Is,

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01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:43.960
<v Speaker 2>who is the one who's talking to him about a

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01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:49.399
<v Speaker 2>list of those in the transhumanist community in which he

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01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:53.920
<v Speaker 2>should keep his eye on, including people like Aubrey de Gray,

1262
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:59.439
<v Speaker 2>of course, Ray Kurzwell and somebody that I talk about

1263
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 2>some times ad nauseum when I talk about this subject.

1264
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Martin Rothblatt formerly Martin Rothblatt. So yeah, I need to

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01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:10.399
<v Speaker 2>see the rest of those videos. You know, you just

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01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:13.399
<v Speaker 2>talked about the fact that Epstein's talking about outdated math

1267
01:17:13.479 --> 01:17:15.560
<v Speaker 2>and sounding like David Ike when he's talking about the

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01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:20.439
<v Speaker 2>nature of reality, right, So I was also taking like,

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01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:23.319
<v Speaker 2>forget about just the Federal Reserve stuff and the FIAT

1270
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.279
<v Speaker 2>money stuff and sounding like Ron Paul No later out

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01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:28.359
<v Speaker 2>in the thing when he's talking about the nature of reality,

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01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:32.199
<v Speaker 2>he sounds about his David Ike as David Ike gets.

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01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:35.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was really shocked about and was like,

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01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:40.640
<v Speaker 1>are these people secretly really interested into this stuff? It

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01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of seems like it seems like these super uber

1276
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:48.520
<v Speaker 1>rich people also are really in to the occult, really

1277
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:55.159
<v Speaker 1>into what is a transmutation or transfiguration and things like that,

1278
01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:58.399
<v Speaker 1>and they're probably funding it. I mean, you talked about

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01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:01.560
<v Speaker 1>what was the place that he said that he funded,

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01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Tavistock and was at Tavastock Institute. There's one of these

1281
01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:10.720
<v Speaker 1>places that's a really big popular place that studies like anomalies.

1282
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:13.079
<v Speaker 1>He said in the interview with Steve Bannon that he

1283
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:16.079
<v Speaker 1>was funding doing this. I don't remember what the name

1284
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of it was.

1285
01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe it was Tavistock. But again, you know,

1286
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Epstein had his clause in a lot of the areas

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01:18:25.359 --> 01:18:31.840
<v Speaker 2>of not just transhumanism but AI itself, right, Like you

1288
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:37.439
<v Speaker 2>see the relationships with Chomsky at MIT, but that was

1289
01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:40.439
<v Speaker 2>not the only relationship at MIT. A lot of that

1290
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:44.079
<v Speaker 2>was narrative management. But at the same time, Epstein's in

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01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:48.359
<v Speaker 2>these emails not just talking about artificial intelligence but agis

1292
01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 2>and essentially for those that don't know that, is that

1293
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:57.039
<v Speaker 2>that's becoming the vernacular now artificial general intelligence. And he's

1294
01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:02.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about ad nauseum twenty twelve and thirteen. He had

1295
01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:10.319
<v Speaker 2>numerous different charities that he was able to wield, influence

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01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:14.279
<v Speaker 2>and fund different programs with. And you talk about the

1297
01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:17.439
<v Speaker 2>weird occult stuff, right, And I think that that's also

1298
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:22.920
<v Speaker 2>really important because a lot of it supersedes Epstein and

1299
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.159
<v Speaker 2>you could get into like generational knowledge, right. Like one

1300
01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:31.439
<v Speaker 2>of the really interesting emails is that he's being contacted

1301
01:19:31.479 --> 01:19:36.359
<v Speaker 2>by this guy and he is being asked, who is

1302
01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:40.840
<v Speaker 2>it Murray Gellman. He's being asked if Murray Gellman would

1303
01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:45.079
<v Speaker 2>be a good person for the quote unquote Zodiac Club, right,

1304
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 2>And for those that don't know what the Zodiac Club,

1305
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:50.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't blame you. I had no idea it even existed.

1306
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:55.039
<v Speaker 2>And I've looked into secret societies for years. Not a

1307
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:59.359
<v Speaker 2>lot online about these guys. New York based quote unquote

1308
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Secrets is society of white men. It specifically says in

1309
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:10.439
<v Speaker 2>the emails, no minorities and no women, of course, and

1310
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.760
<v Speaker 2>it also talks about basically for some reason, this guy

1311
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:21.119
<v Speaker 2>is asking Jeffrey Epstein his opinion on Gelman, who's a

1312
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:23.840
<v Speaker 2>physicist and would be kind of like the science arm

1313
01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:26.439
<v Speaker 2>of this group, if he would make a good fit.

1314
01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:29.119
<v Speaker 2>And then he's explaining that there's a dozen members. You

1315
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 2>only get kicked out if you die, if you go senile,

1316
01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you're still a member. You just don't get to come

1317
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:38.520
<v Speaker 2>to the meetings. And when you look at like I

1318
01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:41.079
<v Speaker 2>mean talking about the head of the New York Stock

1319
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Exchange back in the day, you're talking about people like

1320
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:48.520
<v Speaker 2>JP Morgan back in the day, like big players, especially

1321
01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:52.960
<v Speaker 2>in the financial arena. On this one, they named three

1322
01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:54.920
<v Speaker 2>of the members. He says he doesn't know all of them.

1323
01:20:55.880 --> 01:21:00.319
<v Speaker 2>One of them is Bob Priirie. Bob Priiri is one

1324
01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:03.319
<v Speaker 2>of the money manager's, main money manager for the Rothchild family.

1325
01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Kind of a big deal, okay. In fact, Pirirri got

1326
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:11.359
<v Speaker 2>a send off written about him by Henry Kissinger, who

1327
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:16.640
<v Speaker 2>we mentioned earlier today. Then you had actually Tom Brokaw

1328
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.159
<v Speaker 2>as one of the people as well, kind of for

1329
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:25.439
<v Speaker 2>that narrative management aspect. And the other one we talked

1330
01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:29.600
<v Speaker 2>about finances and being influential was Paul Volker, who was

1331
01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:32.520
<v Speaker 2>the head of the Federal Reserve. So you have like

1332
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:38.199
<v Speaker 2>this weird secret of society based in zodiac symbolism. Somebody

1333
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:41.199
<v Speaker 2>represents cancer and Leo, you know, all these different things,

1334
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:46.159
<v Speaker 2>and it is oddly embedded in all these things. And

1335
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:50.560
<v Speaker 2>then you talk about really eugenics. One of the oddest

1336
01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:53.760
<v Speaker 2>things about Epstein is that he seemed to be like

1337
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:59.479
<v Speaker 2>a genetically quote unquote Jewish supremacist. They didn't want the

1338
01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:03.279
<v Speaker 2>religion of Judaism. In fact, if you were a religious person,

1339
01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:07.039
<v Speaker 2>you were of no interest to Epstein. But there is

1340
01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:11.560
<v Speaker 2>this email between a woman I think her name is

1341
01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:15.479
<v Speaker 2>Dasha Markova or something like that. She's a big deal

1342
01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:18.840
<v Speaker 2>and in it and this is a hundred there'll being

1343
01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:23.720
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent serious in this email. Essentially she's talking

1344
01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:26.960
<v Speaker 2>about how smart Jeffrey Epstein is and how he's ninety

1345
01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.279
<v Speaker 2>eight percent Jewish. And by the way, you take a

1346
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:32.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty three and met folks, it's not you. You can't

1347
01:22:32.359 --> 01:22:37.960
<v Speaker 2>test for Jewish, it's Ashkanazi or Kazarian. And these people

1348
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>are only concerned with the Ashkanazi. I guarantee you that.

1349
01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:46.920
<v Speaker 2>So he starts talking about how he's ninety eight percent

1350
01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Jewish and he's very smart, and she has a boss

1351
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:52.159
<v Speaker 2>and he was like seventy something percent Jewish and he

1352
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.479
<v Speaker 2>was smart, but not as smart as Epstein. And then

1353
01:22:56.039 --> 01:23:00.760
<v Speaker 2>she starts talking about how they can recruit people from

1354
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Jewish families, have them do a twenty three and me test,

1355
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and then those that score a ninety eight percentile of

1356
01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:14.399
<v Speaker 2>jew they will throw a work party and then recruit

1357
01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>those people to work for them. Not a joke, guys,

1358
01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Like people need to they really believe this, Like how

1359
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:28.159
<v Speaker 2>nutty is that? Like that is beyond crazy. But they

1360
01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:31.359
<v Speaker 2>also specify in that email that they don't want religious

1361
01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:35.319
<v Speaker 2>people because they need sociopaths and psychopaths and people that

1362
01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:40.079
<v Speaker 2>aren't connecting with the higher power and therefore can't connect properly.

1363
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:44.000
<v Speaker 2>With the rest of humanity. It's very much that do

1364
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:48.439
<v Speaker 2>as thou wilt Alistair Crowley ideal set.

1365
01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine if you did that with any other

1366
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>race of people.

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01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's my point, Like you know, the left, and

1368
01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:02.520
<v Speaker 2>again another really odd thing to me. It's not odd.

1369
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:04.800
<v Speaker 2>It shows you where these people are really at on

1370
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the quote unquote left. They're not honest, intellectually or otherwise.

1371
01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the meme email of the most interesting

1372
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:17.600
<v Speaker 2>man in the world that's in there. No, Oh, Todd

1373
01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:23.159
<v Speaker 2>should have been front page story everywhere. No one's touched it. Okay,

1374
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:27.399
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if I probably have to go back,

1375
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:30.640
<v Speaker 2>like almost a month into my thing, and even then

1376
01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:33.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we'll show it. But basically it

1377
01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:36.560
<v Speaker 2>is an email with zero context. I want to make

1378
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:39.600
<v Speaker 2>that extremely clear. We don't know who it's sent to

1379
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:44.039
<v Speaker 2>and who it's sent from. Both the email address and

1380
01:24:44.119 --> 01:24:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the names are protected for obvious reasons. But you notice

1381
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:52.159
<v Speaker 2>that you know Epstein didn't have you know, a lot

1382
01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:55.000
<v Speaker 2>of people of color, if you will, surrounding him, and

1383
01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:59.319
<v Speaker 2>certainly did seem to have a certain type, most of

1384
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:05.039
<v Speaker 2>them being younger, blonde, skinny. Well, this email man and

1385
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm really going back trying to find it.

1386
01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>No black people or something.

1387
01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:13.439
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, no, sir, this is much worse.

1388
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:20.279
<v Speaker 2>This is This is be again. Should have been headlines everywhere,

1389
01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>but made zero headlines. Man. I keep going back because.

1390
01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>We just describe it, describe it, but.

1391
01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Basically as the most interesting man in the world. And

1392
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:37.479
<v Speaker 2>it just says I don't usually talk to black people,

1393
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>but when I do, I say hey, up anybody. But

1394
01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>when I do, I usually start out by saying, hey, whoever.

1395
01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>And I want people to understand this isn't Jason Burm

1396
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>assaulting the files. This is really in there and for

1397
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:04.439
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, this should not be classified. We don't know

1398
01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:07.520
<v Speaker 2>who it was sent to from. There's nothing like, there's

1399
01:26:07.560 --> 01:26:12.079
<v Speaker 2>no context other than that they're biggots, folks, they're racists.

1400
01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:15.319
<v Speaker 2>They're pieces of shit, all right, And think about the

1401
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>irony of this Epstein. Now, I don't know this is

1402
01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>from her to Epstein, but I have my suspicion. I

1403
01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>wonder who the other person is. Right, Epstein's got a

1404
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:30.359
<v Speaker 2>black politician in his pocket that we can watch in

1405
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:33.880
<v Speaker 2>real time on c SPAN. As he texts her. We

1406
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:38.399
<v Speaker 2>have the emails as he texts her so that she

1407
01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>will ask specific questions to Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen,

1408
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and then when she does ask those questions, he texts

1409
01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:52.399
<v Speaker 2>her what a great job she's done. Let that sink in, folks.

1410
01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:59.039
<v Speaker 2>You know and remember, Epstein largely is funding a lot

1411
01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of the democratic causes and propaganda, including transgenderism, in which

1412
01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, you have that email with one of these

1413
01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:09.479
<v Speaker 2>guys I think is Robert Trivers or whatever. We're at

1414
01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the end. He's advocating for hormone therapy or sex changes

1415
01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:18.319
<v Speaker 2>to three year olds.

1416
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, to wrap this back to nine to eleven, is

1417
01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:26.199
<v Speaker 1>there anything about nine to eleven in the Epstein files?

1418
01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Great question? Yeah, absolutely, actually there is so far. First

1419
01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:36.239
<v Speaker 2>and foremost, we've seen about two and a half million

1420
01:27:36.319 --> 01:27:40.439
<v Speaker 2>pages supposedly right that have been released. They say they

1421
01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>have three million more pages. Okay, there are large gaps

1422
01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:51.279
<v Speaker 2>in the Epstein files in two specific places, the late

1423
01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:54.319
<v Speaker 2>nineties ninety nine to two thousand and two, right in

1424
01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>that arena, and then also oddly in the mid to

1425
01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:03.199
<v Speaker 2>late nineties, I think ninety six to ninety eight. Now,

1426
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:07.439
<v Speaker 2>with the ninety six to ninety eight stuff, I really

1427
01:28:07.439 --> 01:28:10.199
<v Speaker 2>believe it looks like there's probably an investigation into Epstein

1428
01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:12.119
<v Speaker 2>that went nowhere that they don't want to admit to

1429
01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:14.279
<v Speaker 2>because it would show that they could have done something.

1430
01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:17.960
<v Speaker 2>The reason that I suspect this, and by the way,

1431
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:24.319
<v Speaker 2>they've already admitted that Epstein was also under investigation for

1432
01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:28.199
<v Speaker 2>drugs by the ATF. Okay, that's another thing people aren't

1433
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, they all go together. Remember, Maria

1434
01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Farmer had claimed that she went to the FBI and

1435
01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>filed her report in nineteen ninety six. That document was

1436
01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>released in the Epstein file, so it's no longer speculation.

1437
01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 2>She absolutely filed that report. So there's a good chance

1438
01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>that right there. That's why a bunch of those files

1439
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>are missing. Now, as far as you know the ninety

1440
01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>nine to two thousand and two stuff, there's a good

1441
01:28:56.039 --> 01:29:01.319
<v Speaker 2>chance that Epstein is very much involved in dealings via

1442
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:07.640
<v Speaker 2>what will become homeland security, the body scanners, the TSA,

1443
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a multitude of the contracting overseas, Israeli policy, you name it.

1444
01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what I think we're seeing there. The more exotic

1445
01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff would be the possibility of him maybe having insider

1446
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>knowledge via the trades that went on that day and

1447
01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>that investigation went nowhere. And the reason I speculate on

1448
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>that is we do have emails, for instance, of Peter Mandelsson,

1449
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:35.239
<v Speaker 2>who has now been arrested in the UK. Peter Mandelsson

1450
01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>is giving Epstein the scoop on what he says will

1451
01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:41.760
<v Speaker 2>be a five hundred billion dollar bailout of the euro

1452
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:45.479
<v Speaker 2>and the European Union. People forget that it actually ended

1453
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>up being seven hundred and fifty billion. With that type

1454
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:49.920
<v Speaker 2>of knowledge before it comes through, you can make a

1455
01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:54.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of money. Okay. So I have the strong sneaking

1456
01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:58.399
<v Speaker 2>suspicion that that may be why we're missing those files.

1457
01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:02.039
<v Speaker 2>We also have to come to the realization Number one,

1458
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:04.319
<v Speaker 2>there are certain things these people are never going to release.

1459
01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Number two, they're already admitting that somebody supposedly hacked in

1460
01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:14.520
<v Speaker 2>and destroyed five hundred gigabytes of information or no, not

1461
01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:16.880
<v Speaker 2>five hundred gigabytes. Five hundred gigabytes would be small, five

1462
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred terabytes of information, which is astronomical, and that they

1463
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:26.439
<v Speaker 2>recovered four hundred of it. It was like a remote hack.

1464
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:29.119
<v Speaker 2>It's buried in the files. I'm seeing people report on

1465
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>it now. Derek Brose just did something on I should

1466
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>do a full one so look, that's that's a lot

1467
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:37.199
<v Speaker 2>of info that we're probably never going to see, right,

1468
01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>what we do have a.

1469
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Lot of files, dude, five terabytes. That's freaking huge.

1470
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Huge, Not five five hundred terabytes altogether, but one hundred

1471
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>terabytes lost forever. Yes, not fivetes and one hundred terabytes. God,

1472
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:57.479
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's it's it's that's the report. I don't

1473
01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>think I'm misspeaking. I don't think it's gigabytes. You know,

1474
01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:02.960
<v Speaker 2>people can go check it out, please fact check me.

1475
01:31:03.079 --> 01:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm a human being. I make mistakes as far as

1476
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:11.159
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven itself. There is one specific email where

1477
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Gallainne Maxwell is being emailed by a Jay Edward Epstein

1478
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:18.319
<v Speaker 2>asking her if she would like to be part of

1479
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:23.079
<v Speaker 2>a shadow nine to eleven commission. Jay Edward Epstein also

1480
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:27.800
<v Speaker 2>happens to be not just a journalist and somebody who's

1481
01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:31.399
<v Speaker 2>done a ton of books on JFK and essentially tried

1482
01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:34.439
<v Speaker 2>to act like the contrary and asking the hard questions,

1483
01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:39.399
<v Speaker 2>but then you know, goes with the official version, right.

1484
01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>And he actually wrote a book about James Engleton, one

1485
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>of the CIA leads, and I mean he's very much

1486
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:53.800
<v Speaker 2>an apologist for the establishment. So this is before the

1487
01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:57.439
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven commission is being formed. And remember the

1488
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>initial nine to eleven commission was to be headed up

1489
01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:05.399
<v Speaker 2>by who Henry Kissinger. A lot of people forget that

1490
01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:07.319
<v Speaker 2>there's somebody else who was going to be his co

1491
01:32:07.479 --> 01:32:12.239
<v Speaker 2>chair who actually resigned before Kissinger. That man's name was

1492
01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>George Mitchell. George Mitchell's all up in the Epstein files

1493
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and has been for years. You know, this guy again

1494
01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:25.439
<v Speaker 2>in Congress is accused of some pretty heinous stuff, all right,

1495
01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:27.600
<v Speaker 2>So George Mitchell actually resigned from the nine to eleven

1496
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:32.039
<v Speaker 2>commission before Kissinger. What is a shadow commission on nine

1497
01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>to eleven? Epstein had put together a website. I showed

1498
01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:42.479
<v Speaker 2>screenshots of that website what we had from archive dot org.

1499
01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Epstein had actually asked the very real question of whether

1500
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:52.319
<v Speaker 2>or not these guys actually used box cutters. So he

1501
01:32:52.479 --> 01:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>was like setting himself up as at you know, they're

1502
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>lying to us, but not about what you think, right,

1503
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:03.079
<v Speaker 2>So I think very much part of narrative management. I'll

1504
01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:05.199
<v Speaker 2>give you another great example. I did a whole video

1505
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:10.520
<v Speaker 2>on this other Epstein, this Jay Edward Epstein. For instance,

1506
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:16.600
<v Speaker 2>there is a communication in there between Epstein and this

1507
01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Ben Solemn character not MBS, but another person

1508
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:27.199
<v Speaker 2>like in that very much in that world. And it's

1509
01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:33.239
<v Speaker 2>basically talking about an Israeli operation that was a assassination

1510
01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>of a Hamas leader I believe in Dubai, okay, And

1511
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>he says, I'm gonna call you up. We're gonna talk

1512
01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:45.560
<v Speaker 2>about this. This doesn't help anybody the other Epstein ends

1513
01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:50.800
<v Speaker 2>up going on Charlie Rose okay, and they've got videos

1514
01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>of this entire assassination operation. They lead the show with

1515
01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:59.319
<v Speaker 2>the videos of the guys that assassinate the other guy,

1516
01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>like in the hotel, on the on the elevator, anybody

1517
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:06.640
<v Speaker 2>can look at I played it on my show. And

1518
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Epstein is the one guy that's like, hold up, we

1519
01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:13.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know that this is an Israeli operation, you know,

1520
01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:20.159
<v Speaker 2>like literally so gallinne Maxwell, you know, for people that

1521
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>don't understand what her father did outside of being an

1522
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>intelligence agent for not just Israel, but it looks like

1523
01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:32.720
<v Speaker 2>he was working with British intelligence even Russian intelligence as well.

1524
01:34:34.439 --> 01:34:37.319
<v Speaker 2>He was a part of narrative management. You know. His

1525
01:34:37.399 --> 01:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>empire was a media empire. You know that it was

1526
01:34:40.600 --> 01:34:44.319
<v Speaker 2>the Daily Mirror and all these other outlets that were

1527
01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:47.319
<v Speaker 2>shaping narratives. That's why he was so useful to them.

1528
01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Outside of other connections. So j Edward Epstein is another

1529
01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:56.159
<v Speaker 2>useful tool for narrative management. Steve Bannon is another useful

1530
01:34:56.199 --> 01:35:00.720
<v Speaker 2>tool for narrative management. Noam Chomsky is an other useful

1531
01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>tool for narrative management. And it works both ways. Like

1532
01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the emails from Bannon after he'd been kicked

1533
01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:11.319
<v Speaker 2>out of the initial Trump administration, I think it's from

1534
01:35:11.399 --> 01:35:17.319
<v Speaker 2>like twenty eighteen, he contacts Epstein and he's like, can

1535
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>we take out Powell? Talking about Jerome Powell of the

1536
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:25.760
<v Speaker 2>FED at the time and Steve Manushan, who's a part

1537
01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:29.319
<v Speaker 2>of the Trump administration at the time. Epstein's pretty frank

1538
01:35:29.359 --> 01:35:31.119
<v Speaker 2>with him. He says, you know, Powell's going to be

1539
01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:34.720
<v Speaker 2>a problem. Manusian we can work with. Who had a

1540
01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:39.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of trouble during that first Trump wasn't Jerome Powell?

1541
01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Was it Steve? No It looks like you and Epstein

1542
01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:45.680
<v Speaker 2>did your job, and definitely we're able to go after MANUSI. So, look,

1543
01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:48.199
<v Speaker 2>these files are the real deal. Now. That's why I'm

1544
01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:52.560
<v Speaker 2>putting together this documentary series called the Epstein Files. So

1545
01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>we can focus in on really, and that's the thing.

1546
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Even the mainstream media is in that this is proving

1547
01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:08.760
<v Speaker 2>a global conspiracy sort of. But when you actually piece

1548
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>these things together, in these networks together, what are they?

1549
01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:16.680
<v Speaker 2>They're the exact networks that I highlighted and tried to

1550
01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>focus on in my film Invisible Empire, A New World

1551
01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Order Defined Rider And you know, just so your audience knows,

1552
01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to buy you can't buy them from me.

1553
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>It's impossible to buy my movies right now. If you

1554
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>would like to see them, you can go watch all

1555
01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:35.439
<v Speaker 2>of them on my YouTube channel in my documentary playlist

1556
01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:37.479
<v Speaker 2>by two on nine eleven, Loose Change, Final Cut and

1557
01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Fabled Enemies totally important. But if you want to know

1558
01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>how the Epstein network works outside of Epstein, please watch

1559
01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Invisible Empire, A New World Order Defined. And then I

1560
01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:51.079
<v Speaker 2>followed that up with a film called Shade the Motion

1561
01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Picture where another guy in the files, Bill Gates, who

1562
01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>he's they can't wait to do some pandemic planning together

1563
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:02.319
<v Speaker 2>and get rid of all the poor How do we

1564
01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>get rid of these damn poor people? Bill? I did

1565
01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>a full movie called Shade the Motion Picture where there's

1566
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:14.039
<v Speaker 2>like a twenty minute section on Bill Gates and Mon

1567
01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Satan and our food supply and our medical supply, and

1568
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I warned people then that he was a bad guy.

1569
01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:26.319
<v Speaker 2>These files have really only validated my body of work

1570
01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:30.159
<v Speaker 2>in large part, and I expect if we actually get

1571
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the files, especially the ones surrounding that

1572
01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:35.000
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven era, they're only going to further do.

1573
01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:42.359
<v Speaker 1>So there's supposedly how many more files left, like three million.

1574
01:37:42.680 --> 01:37:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Well so these are pages, right, So like one file

1575
01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>may have hundreds of pages in them, just like they're saying,

1576
01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:50.119
<v Speaker 2>like we don't have two and a half million files.

1577
01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:53.399
<v Speaker 2>We have two and a half million pages of files.

1578
01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Many of them are repeats too, But like, let's be honest,

1579
01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>when we're actually talking about even hundreds of thousands of

1580
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:04.439
<v Speaker 2>original documents, that's a lot to go through. You know.

1581
01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned, for instance, that Bobby Slayton email with the pizza.

1582
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:11.399
<v Speaker 2>There's like four different versions of that email. Like it's

1583
01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:14.359
<v Speaker 2>funny I'd reported on it and not known it was

1584
01:38:14.399 --> 01:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Bobby Slayton because he was blacked out. And then by

1585
01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:21.159
<v Speaker 2>that those means it does sound like, hey, maybe this

1586
01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>is human trafficking. But then after you find out who

1587
01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>it is. It brings a different light to it. So look,

1588
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you've got to go through these things pretty meticulously, and

1589
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm constantly trying to cross reference dates and actions outside

1590
01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:41.600
<v Speaker 2>of the files themselves, and I'm far from the only

1591
01:38:41.640 --> 01:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>one doing it. That's what's great about this is that

1592
01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>there is this super community of actual sleuths out there

1593
01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that are doing the work. And quite frankly, we're gonna

1594
01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>have to put this work in just for what's available

1595
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>now for years to come, but if we get the rest,

1596
01:38:58.079 --> 01:39:00.800
<v Speaker 2>we certainly have even more work cut out for us.

1597
01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks so much, brother, I really appreciate your time today.

1598
01:39:05.399 --> 01:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It was the Santa Fe Institute that was talking about

1599
01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>what did I say, the Tavistock Institute, Yes, Satia Institute,

1600
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>along with some other institute that were investigating strange things

1601
01:39:17.800 --> 01:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>or unexplainable events. Really appreciate your time, Jason. It was

1602
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful conversation. Can you let people know where they

1603
01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>can find you? Plug your social media is I know

1604
01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you just hit your YouTube channel there for people to

1605
01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>go watch your documentaries, but any place else that you

1606
01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:35.079
<v Speaker 1>would like people to know about.

1607
01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you want the raw stuff, right, And sometimes

1608
01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't do videos. Follow me on X it's a

1609
01:39:40.600 --> 01:39:43.560
<v Speaker 2>crap platform. It's a pay for play platform. But at

1610
01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the same time, like, if you want access to that

1611
01:39:47.039 --> 01:39:51.199
<v Speaker 2>email that proves these people are actually racists and bigots,

1612
01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:53.720
<v Speaker 2>you follow me and you have a link to the

1613
01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:57.399
<v Speaker 2>source material. I always tell people again, don't believe me.

1614
01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:01.479
<v Speaker 2>Please go check out what I've seen and the evidence

1615
01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I've presented, so you can get me at Jason Burmas

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01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>on X. You see all the other links down below.

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01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, all the documentaries are free. And I've

1618
01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:13.039
<v Speaker 2>had my YouTube channel literally since two thousand and seven.

1619
01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:16.399
<v Speaker 2>There are three thousand plus videos there, folks that you

1620
01:40:16.439 --> 01:40:20.079
<v Speaker 2>can go check my track record on and I thought

1621
01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>tooth and nail to keep that channel. They didn't just

1622
01:40:24.079 --> 01:40:26.720
<v Speaker 2>demonetize me for five and a half years. They took

1623
01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:29.760
<v Speaker 2>my channel five separate times, and I had to fight

1624
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:34.439
<v Speaker 2>with them on Twitter, slash X and shame the lords

1625
01:40:34.479 --> 01:40:39.039
<v Speaker 2>of alphabet slash Google, slash YouTube slash, the NSA and NASA,

1626
01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:41.439
<v Speaker 2>that's what they really are to get my channel back,

1627
01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and I did so keep fighting the good fight, and

1628
01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>as I say at the end of all my shows,

1629
01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:47.680
<v Speaker 2>it is not about left or right, righter it is

1630
01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:50.359
<v Speaker 2>about right and wrong and hopefully I will see all

1631
01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>these folks on the flip side.

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01:40:53.239 --> 01:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>All the links to Jason's information will be in the

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01:40:55.960 --> 01:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>description of this video. Please go over there and support

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01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>him and watch his document and look forward to his

1635
01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>new documentary on the Jeffrey Epstein Files. Please be sure

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01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:07.199
<v Speaker 1>to hit the thumbs up button help the channel on

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<v Speaker 1>the algorithm, share a subscribe at the belt icon as

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<v Speaker 1>well for notifications, and we'll see you guys next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye,