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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about homelessness and the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>immediate causes versus long term causes. And there's a Fresno

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<v Speaker 1>Bee story about homelessness in the valley. Homeless population in

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno in Madera up three percent, why that number will

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<v Speaker 1>likely grow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's written by Thaddeus Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the main thrust of the story, so that the

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<v Speaker 1>title is up three percent. You get into the story,

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<v Speaker 1>it says the number of people living unsheltered in the

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<v Speaker 1>region has grown by ten percent over the last count.

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<v Speaker 1>The Fresno Madera Continuum of Care said this week the

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<v Speaker 1>entire homeless population, which includes those in shelters, rose by

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<v Speaker 1>three percent. Okay, so our unsheltered numbers grow by ten percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But the entire homeless population, so that includes people who

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<v Speaker 1>are in fact have some shelter at least for the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're living in they're living in homeless shelters, rose

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<v Speaker 1>by three percent from the last count in twenty twenty three. Officially,

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<v Speaker 1>there were four hundred ninety three homeless people as of

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<v Speaker 1>January twenty fourth, twenty twenty three, in the last count

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<v Speaker 1>in the Fresno and Madera tally. A full report on

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<v Speaker 1>this year's tally will be released after the numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>reported to the US Department of Housing in Urban Development

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<v Speaker 1>in June. So, no matter how you slice it, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems as though the number of homeless people is increasing

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<v Speaker 1>in Fresno and Madera. And yet the story Now, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a part of me that's a little skeptical about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how reliable these stats are, like.

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<v Speaker 2>That they give.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the number they give is four four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety three, not four four hundred and ninety two.

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<v Speaker 1>We're counting skinny Pete, but we're not counting you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob who's uh, you know, living on his sister's.

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<v Speaker 2>Couch or something. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I feel like it's really hard to actually survey

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<v Speaker 1>the area and actually find out exactly how many homeless

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<v Speaker 1>people there are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a moving target.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole nature of homelessness is that you're a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit off the grid. You're you're not residing somewhere, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a mailbox to respond to a survey of

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<v Speaker 1>are you homeless? So it seems like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>moving target. However, to whatever extent they have metrics, the

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<v Speaker 1>metrics are not looking good, they're all pointing in the

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<v Speaker 1>direction of more homelessness. Well, then the story takes a turn.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a turn towards criticizing the Trump administration. So

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<v Speaker 1>the news of a growing homeless population Thttius Miller writes

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<v Speaker 1>in Fresno in Madera Counties comes as the Fresno Housing

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<v Speaker 1>Authority raised concerns about proposed federal cuts that could affect

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<v Speaker 1>housing security for many families. Then it goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of have the normal Fresno be complaint about the

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<v Speaker 1>no camping ordinance. Fresno b hates the no camping ordinance.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, the city of Fresno has taken

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<v Speaker 1>a more aggressive stance on dealing with homelessness, including making

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<v Speaker 1>arrests of the unhouse if they decline.

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<v Speaker 2>To accept help. Blah blah, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Officials said the growing number is difficult to pin down

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<v Speaker 1>anyone factor, with the lack of affordable housing, low incomes,

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<v Speaker 1>mental health challenges, and substance abuse disorders all contributing to

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of the same old story. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the turn. The federal budget proposed earlier this month

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<v Speaker 1>showed significant cuts to programs related to homelessness. After twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, the Fresno Housing Authority will no longer receive

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<v Speaker 1>funding to support two hundred and sixty Fresno families with

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Emergency housing vouchers, a program that started in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. Officials from the Fresno Housing ASTHA already said

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<v Speaker 1>that said that the program was originally intended to continue

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<v Speaker 1>through twenty thirty and was funded by the American Rescue

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<v Speaker 1>Plan Act of twenty twenty one. Slashing those five years

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<v Speaker 1>would amount to a fifteen million dollar cut, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the authority. All right, now, this is purely the Fresno

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<v Speaker 1>Bee relaying what the Fresno Housing Authority is complaining about

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<v Speaker 1>about the Trump budget. That the Trump budget is cutting this. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be a little bit of surprise to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The Trump budget, the Reconciliation Bill, the one big Beautiful Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>as they call it, is.

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<v Speaker 2>A spending nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's yet another example of Republicans talking

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<v Speaker 1>a big game about fiscal responsibility and spending when they

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<v Speaker 1>are out of power, and then as soon as they

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<v Speaker 1>get into power, they don't do anything to control spending. However,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess I'm a little surprised that there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be these massive cut in homelessness. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I get into the differences between immediate problems versus

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<v Speaker 1>root problems. The Fresno Bee wants to take a little

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<v Speaker 1>potshot at Donald Trump, the Trump administration, Trump's budget. So

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<v Speaker 1>they see, oh, this federal program is getting cut. This

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<v Speaker 1>federal program provides funding for this reresne housing authority. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to endanger the ability of the PRESNOE Housing Authority

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<v Speaker 1>to provide housing to some of these they say, families.

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure what that means. Does that mean households?

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<v Speaker 3>Does that meaning seemingly I don't know, does that mean

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<v Speaker 3>single people at homeless people like you don't see too

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<v Speaker 3>many homeless families out on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That strikes me as a little odd that that way

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<v Speaker 1>of expressing it. And therefore it's Trump's fault because we're

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<v Speaker 1>cutting funding for homelessness. Let's ignore the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>state of California has spent billions and billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on homelessness to seemingly no effect. In fact, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>massive scandal that the Newsom administration has spent billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars didn't really track outcomes very well and seemingly has

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<v Speaker 1>had no improvement on homelessness. Here's a CBS News story

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<v Speaker 1>from a year ago. Audit finds California spent twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars on homelessness in five years, didn't consistently track outcomes.

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<v Speaker 1>California spent twenty four billion dollars to tackle homelessness over

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<v Speaker 1>the past five years, but didn't consistently track whether the

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<v Speaker 1>huge outlay of public money actually improved the situation. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the state audit released again. This was back in

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<v Speaker 1>April of twenty twenty four, and estimated one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one thousand people are homeless in California, which amounts

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<v Speaker 1>to roughly thirty percent of all the homeless people in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. Despite the roughly billions of dollars spent on

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<v Speaker 1>more than thirty homeless in housing programs during the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to twenty twenty three fiscal years, California doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>reliable data needed to fully understand why the problem didn't

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<v Speaker 1>improve in many cities, according to the state auditor's report.

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<v Speaker 1>This report concludes that the state must do more to

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<v Speaker 1>assess the cost effectiveness of its homelessness program, state auditor

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Parks wrote in a letter to Governor Gavin Newsman lawmakers.

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<v Speaker 1>The audit analyzed five programs that received a combine thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>point seven billion dollars in funding. It determined that only

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<v Speaker 1>two of them are likely cost effective, including one that

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<v Speaker 1>converts hotel and motel rooms into housing and another that

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<v Speaker 1>provides housing assistance to prevent families from becoming homeless. Under

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<v Speaker 1>the three point six billion dollar program to convert hotels

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<v Speaker 1>and motel rooms, which is a lynchpin in Newsome's almostness planed,

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<v Speaker 1>the average cost of a room is at least two

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<v Speaker 1>point five times cheaper than building a new home, the

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<v Speaker 1>audit found. Blah blah, blah blah. Anyway, the remaining three programs,

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<v Speaker 1>which received a total of nine point four billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty twenty, couldn't be evaluated due to a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of data. So this is the problem with California has

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of money on band Aids. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the conclusion we should we can maybe draw here.

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<v Speaker 1>California is spending a lot of money on band aids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because even I mean, even this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>converting hotel rooms into housing. That's not necessarily a long

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<v Speaker 1>term solution. It's not really addressing the root causes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>getting people off the street, which is good, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>But I then wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, are you really addressing the root causes? And again

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<v Speaker 2>I have my sort of limited window for dealing with this.

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<v Speaker 2>A home was housing into the setup shop right across

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<v Speaker 2>the street from my office at Blackstone. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at Blackstone and Griffith. That's where the Right to

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<v Speaker 2>Life office is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the old Motel six at Blackstone in Ashland,

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<v Speaker 1>and the back of its parking lot is right across

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<v Speaker 1>the street from me. And they turned that back fence

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<v Speaker 1>of the parking lot for some reason, they turned it

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<v Speaker 1>into a security checkpoint that allows people to come on

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<v Speaker 1>and off the campus to walk on Griffith Avenue. And

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<v Speaker 1>what happened a ton of drug dealers just set up

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<v Speaker 1>shop on Griffith to sell to anybody and everybody from

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<v Speaker 1>the homeless shelter. So what I was realizing looking at

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<v Speaker 1>it was okay, well if this is allowed to continue,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I made such a huge stink on

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<v Speaker 1>in the city, calling the cops et cetera, that it

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly is not continuing. If this is just allowed to continue,

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<v Speaker 1>these people have a drug problem, which majorly contributes to

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<v Speaker 1>their homelessness to begin with. They're allowed to maintain their

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<v Speaker 1>drug problem the whole time that they're living in this shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not a permanent shelter. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was like it's like a twenty eight day kind of

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<v Speaker 1>temporary housing deal. As soon as they leave the shelter,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still going to have a drug addiction problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>what is that accomplishing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing? Here?

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<v Speaker 1>We are we're spending all this money for this particular

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<v Speaker 1>housing project. I don't know exactly what it's funded by.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if maybe they're trying to take more

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<v Speaker 1>measures to cut down on people using drugs. They were

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<v Speaker 1>responsive to me when I said, hey, you gotta I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna allow this. I'm not gonna allow your residents

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<v Speaker 1>just to sit on my stoop and litter and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that's how a lot of these homeless shelters

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<v Speaker 1>are maintained, where like drug dealers just kind of roam

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<v Speaker 1>around the perimeter of them to sell drugs to residents,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know how much money was spent

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<v Speaker 1>to convert that motel six into homeless housing. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot. It's got to be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to buy it. It's got to be a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>retrofit it. It's gotta be a lot of construction costs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't know who funded it. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a city funded thing. I talked with some city

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<v Speaker 1>council members. Nope, Nope, that's not a city thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>I presume it's some kind of state grant. Millions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars were probably spent on that shelter. And if that

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<v Speaker 1>shelter is not able to do anything to deter any

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<v Speaker 1>of their residents from maintaining a drug problem the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just going to be money flushed down the drain.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm a little skeptical of these stories

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<v Speaker 1>about oh, Trump Administration's cutting a homelessness program and that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to lead to people being homeless?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is?

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<v Speaker 2>It? Really? Is? I sort of wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of wonder if we're so focused on the

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact band aid that we're not getting the

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<v Speaker 1>root of the problem. We're not really addressing the root

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<v Speaker 1>of the problem. The root problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Are drug use.

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<v Speaker 1>The root problems are the unaffordability of housing in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. And it feels like that this is a constant,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a constant California thing. We subsidize the demand

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<v Speaker 1>rather than increase the supply. We can't afford to build

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<v Speaker 1>housing for lower income people.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you give a bunch of government subsidies for building

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<v Speaker 1>low income housing. We don't do anything to address the supply,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you had more supply, the cost would go down. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't do any kind of supply side response. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>is subsidizing the demand. That's the case with housing and

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<v Speaker 1>with so many other problems housing or lower income people

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<v Speaker 1>more spending, more spending, more subsidies, more subsidies, more subsidies.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's nuts. I think it's an after

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't know all the details and and blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah, I'm a little leery to say, oh, yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration, what a bunch of evil jerks for cutting

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<v Speaker 1>A little loath to say, oh, this cut of money,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. I don't think money is the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We were spending Jack, we were spending zilch on homelessness,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thirty years ago, and we had way less

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<v Speaker 1>homelessness in California. Why because it was more affordable to

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<v Speaker 1>live here. So I'm you know, drug proliferation of drugs

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<v Speaker 1>was just as bad thirty years ago as far as

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<v Speaker 1>drug problems, but we weren't spending that much thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't have the same problem with homelessness. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>there is something wrong with our state, and it's with

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. Maybe the problem is purely just.

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<v Speaker 1>Electing Democrats all the time. That's the one connective thread

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<v Speaker 1>between everything. So in short, I think this is another

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<v Speaker 1>kind of classic example of making liberal lawmakers feel better

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<v Speaker 1>about themselves by saying we spent fifteen billion dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>address homelessness without actually looking at one, Does that actually

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<v Speaker 1>fix the problem in two?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this not really a.

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<v Speaker 1>Root problems solution. This is just a band aid to

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<v Speaker 1>cover up what's going on when we return how this

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsome. That's next on the John Girardi Show. Homelessness

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the many reasons I just don't see

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsome credibly winning, credibly winning the presidency, credibly even

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<v Speaker 1>winning the Democratic nomination to be president. The state has

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<v Speaker 1>spent under his watch tens of billions of dollars. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, they had this audit come out and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how we spent like twenty four billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>Data to ensure that this was effective at all.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't even have metrics for ensuring it was effective.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, it doesn't seem like it was effective.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's one of like five or six huge issues

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't see how he recovers from. And my

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<v Speaker 1>mind always goes to the same place the hypothetical CNN

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<v Speaker 1>or MSNBC Democrat primary debate that presumably will be held

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<v Speaker 1>in probably the first one will happen in December of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven, November December of twenty twenty seven. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be up there with maybe Kamala maybe maybe not,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see, but certainly with Pete Boodagig. He'll be up there,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe JB. Pritzker, Newsom's overweight Illinois twin, maybe Josh Shapiro,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe John Fetterman. Uh, you know, there'll be a smattering

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<v Speaker 1>of god knows, maybe even AOC. The AOC wild card

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<v Speaker 1>is really something to think about, because I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>got some options right now. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Or she could run for president. So that's the wild card.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, you'll have all these other ambitious Democrats up there.

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<v Speaker 1>AOC is ambitious as hell, Josh Shapiros seemingly he is

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<v Speaker 1>ambitious as hell. And I don't know how Newsome is

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<v Speaker 1>able to stand up there and say, oh, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a governor and someone's like, what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>You've been saying you're gonna fight homelessness and address the

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<v Speaker 1>problem of homelessness. You've only been saying it for the

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<v Speaker 1>last eight eight seven, so that's twenty three years. You've

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<v Speaker 1>had twenty three years as a major public official to

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<v Speaker 1>combat homelessness, where you had seven years as mayor of

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, eight years as lieutenant governor, eight years as governor,

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<v Speaker 1>and by every metric, homelessness got worse. You spent tens

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<v Speaker 1>of billions of dollars, much of it was spent improvidently

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<v Speaker 1>because you didn't have metrics for ensuring its success or

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<v Speaker 1>ensuring that that it was or wasn't effective even and

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<v Speaker 1>by every metric, homelessness got worse under your watch. And now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, six and a half years into his governorship,

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<v Speaker 1>Newsom's in this sort of bitter spot where he's sort

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<v Speaker 1>governments because he knows he spent all these billions of

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<v Speaker 1>to blame local governments for improvidently administering the money that

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<v Speaker 1>he had the state sent because a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>programs got administered by you know, counties and cities and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So he's trying to do all these

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<v Speaker 1>like tough, getting tough, like I'm not going to increase

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<v Speaker 1>public union employee salaries for like county and city governments

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<v Speaker 1>unless they demonstrate, you know, that they're using state money well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's ticking off. That's something that's in his current

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<v Speaker 1>may revision to the budget, and the boy that's really

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<v Speaker 1>ticking off the public sector unions right now.

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<v Speaker 2>They are not happy with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Newsom has to do this like blame shifting game,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no way the problem is going to get

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how he's again do I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I do this every show. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>Newsome stands up there during a Democrat primary debate and

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<v Speaker 1>looks over at.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Shapiro and have Josh Shapiro or.

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<v Speaker 1>AOC to say to him, you know, you've allegedly been

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<v Speaker 1>the governor of California for eight years and you said

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to tackle homelessness and every metric homelessness

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<v Speaker 1>got worse, and you spent tens of billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to no effect. How how do you come up here

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<v Speaker 1>and lecture the rest of us about what it means

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good leader. How can you dare to

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<v Speaker 1>say that you should take your track record of governing

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<v Speaker 1>one state and expand it to the whole country.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a fraud. I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't And by the way, homelessness is not even the

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<v Speaker 1>issues that are like that for Newsome where I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what his response will be other than some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of slick used car salesman kind of dodge that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to pull on everybody. But he can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that that long. Eventually he's gonna get nailed to

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<v Speaker 1>the wall by somebody. Someone is going to roast him.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I kind of wonder if his I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if he knows it. I wonder if he realizes

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not really in a good position to run for president,

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<v Speaker 1>but news stories keep coming out that he's interested. When

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<v Speaker 1>we return another episode in people flying enormous flags on

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<v Speaker 1>to have no idea about it, That is next on

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<v Speaker 1>The John Girardi Show. Some of you may remember this

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<v Speaker 1>story from February. It was San Francisco Chronicle reported on

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of people reported on it that a

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<v Speaker 1>group of Yosemite National Park staffers hung a big American

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<v Speaker 1>Yosemite as a protest to the Trump administration laying off

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered feeling that, wow, what a great illustration of

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<v Speaker 1>why these people should be fired. And there was like

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<v Speaker 1>the story came and went and all these questions were

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<v Speaker 2>So questions such.

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<v Speaker 1>As did federal employees do that on their work time? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're paying you to be forest rangers and you're up

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do that on work time?

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<v Speaker 1>You certainly did it on work land, I mean in

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<v Speaker 1>did you get a big old flag to the top

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<v Speaker 1>of El Capitan? That's another thing I wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 1>How logistically was that supposed to work? Also, like, did you,

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<v Speaker 1>as a Yosemite Park employee have special access that allowed

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<v Speaker 1>you to get to the top of El Capitan to

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<v Speaker 1>fly an American flag upside down? Not to mention the

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<v Speaker 1>because Missus Alito flew a American flag upside down because her

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<v Speaker 1>tried to act as though it was Sam Alito's fault

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<v Speaker 1>that January sixth happened for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>And her neighbors were being mean to her.

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<v Speaker 1>So Missus Alito flew an American flag upside down, and

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<v Speaker 1>this led to all these problems for Justice Alito.

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<v Speaker 2>People saying, oh, the.

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<v Speaker 1>the Steel movement. Now all of a sudden, when it's

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, that whole story came and went.

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they probably should have been fired. Well we've got

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<v Speaker 1>another one, folks, We've got another large flag being flown

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of El Capitan. It's written by Abigail

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony and National Review find it odd. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>related policies. I will note it's only the T. The

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration seems totally the hunky dory with the L

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<v Speaker 2>They just don't like the T.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the greatest marketing UH coup of all

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<v Speaker 1>T in with the L and the G and the B. Because, look,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes sense for them to be together. But frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, the L the B. Yeah, the L, the

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<v Speaker 1>G and the B. Americans don't care too much about it.

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<v Speaker 1>They are mostly accepting of it. The T is like

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different ballgame. Though the T sort of inherently

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<v Speaker 1>involves beyond like social stuff. It involves hormonal treatments, and

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<v Speaker 1>surgeries and all kinds of things like that that I

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<v Speaker 1>idea of that the left treats them all as of

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<v Speaker 1>about the leg, the G and the B versus the T.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really one of the great sort of marketing coups

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<v Speaker 2>Well you're opposed to LGBT people.

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<v Speaker 1>When someone's like, hey, I don't think that we should

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<v Speaker 2>Is kind of confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an amazing coup that they had, although it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be working as the Trump administration is.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, I think what this is in response to is

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<v Speaker 2>the One Big Beautiful Bill, the OBBB as I call it,

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<v Speaker 2>which my wife hates that name.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of ridiculous, but I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little catchy.

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<v Speaker 1>The Reconciliation Bill that the Trump administration just passed includes

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<v Speaker 1>cutting off various forms of federal funding, I think chiefly

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<v Speaker 1>Medicaid and possibly Medicare funding.

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<v Speaker 2>For transgender interventions.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not going to be covered by Medicare Medicaid

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<v Speaker 1>at least Medicaid, And that was kind of a point

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<v Speaker 1>that was a little bit up in the air with

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<v Speaker 1>the OBBB, was would it cut those things? Would it

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<v Speaker 1>only cut it cut those kinds of interventions for miners,

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<v Speaker 1>but still cover it for adults.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, the final version that was passed by the House

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<v Speaker 1>includes cuts for everyone, for adults, children, et cetera. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not The federal government is not going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the business of funding transgender interventions, which I think is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they are healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have much evidence behind them that

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<v Speaker 1>they actually help improve any outcomes for people. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why the United Kingdom has stopped doing those interventions

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<v Speaker 1>for miners, because the data was not there that it

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<v Speaker 1>was helpful. This is my sort of insight. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like the one advantage of a socialized medicine setup that

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<v Speaker 1>the UK has in America doesn't well. With the socialized

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<v Speaker 1>medicine setup. You're not as driven by the almighty dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not as driven by the direct profit motive for

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<v Speaker 1>a given service. Individual doctors are not so incentivized, so,

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<v Speaker 1>as a result, the urge to do a procedure that

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<v Speaker 1>will make you a ton of money but doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>have any long term benefit. That urge isn't as much

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<v Speaker 1>there in the UK as it is in America. In America,

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of surgeries, those kinds of interventions, make bank,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the docs who do them, I think, are

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<v Speaker 1>more willing to overlook the evidence, spin the evidence to

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<v Speaker 1>say that it's good and useful, when really the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>is indicating it it's not doing anything. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing these interventions seemingly for someone's mental health, which is

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<v Speaker 1>already a bit dicey to do a surgery for somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>mental health, and to do a surgery on a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>body for someone's alleged mental health problems, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even really helping those mental health problems. The outcomes are

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<v Speaker 1>just not there as a positive. But of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the pro transgender left acts is if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't provide children with these kinds of hormonal interventions.

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<v Speaker 2>Or surgeries, this child will kill him or herself. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of fear mongering they do.

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<v Speaker 1>In the UK, they stop doing it because the profit

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<v Speaker 1>motive isn't quite as much there for doctors or professional

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<v Speaker 1>Associations of doctors and they just looked at the data

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<v Speaker 1>and said, Nope, we're not doing it. So in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK they don't do intervention. They don't do trans interventions

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<v Speaker 1>on kids in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this case with the flag, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>again the pro transgender pride flag, which if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed on your L and G and B

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<v Speaker 1>and T flags, this is the one that's blue and pink.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a blue horizontal stripe, pink horizontal stripe, white horizontal stripe,

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<v Speaker 1>pink horizontal stripe.

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<v Speaker 2>Blue horizontal stripe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, because there's boys and there's girls, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can switch and then maybe there's white that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. Who knows, which, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>a classic symbol for the transgender movement, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>boiled down what it means to be man, what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to be a woman, to stereotypes like if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a boy who plays with a Barbie doll a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too much, they'll start thinking that this boy

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<v Speaker 1>is transgender. If you've got a girl who's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a tomboy, they might start thinking that that girl is transgender,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's like This is a very surface level

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<v Speaker 1>concept of what it means to be a man or

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<v Speaker 1>what it means to be a woman, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years ago people would have said was horribly outdated

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<v Speaker 1>and sexist, that yes, you can be a girl and

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<v Speaker 1>be rough and tumble and a tomboy and like sports

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<v Speaker 1>and getting in the mud and playing with frogs and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, still be a girl, still be a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be a boy and enjoy you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, things like ballet or the fine arts or

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<v Speaker 1>poetry or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes you can still you are still a boy.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean you're not a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've got this Pride flag raised on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of El Capitan. This time it doesn't seem like it

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<v Speaker 1>was done by Yosemite National Park staff, which at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least seems like an improvement. It was a protest

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<v Speaker 1>done by let's see the demonstrators raise the flag claim

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<v Speaker 1>it is fifty five feet by thirty five feet. It

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<v Speaker 1>was hung fifteen hundred feet up El Capitan on the

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<v Speaker 1>Heart ledges between eight am and ten am Pacific time.

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<v Speaker 1>It remained on display until about noon. Images shared by

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<v Speaker 1>some of the activists show that statements like free Palestine,

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<v Speaker 1>b gay do crime, trans people Save lives, and trans

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<v Speaker 1>is beautiful were written on the flag in black marker Ah. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Palestinians notably accepting of transgenderism. With this historic unfurling,

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<v Speaker 1>climbers reclaim space in the heart. Literally, the flag hangs

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<v Speaker 1>on the recognizable heart ledges on l Capitan Wall in Yosemite,

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<v Speaker 1>said the activists in a press release. The nonprofit organization

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<v Speaker 1>called the Outdoorist Oath, which promotes an action based commitment

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<v Speaker 1>for planet inclusion and adventure. The organization says asks members

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<v Speaker 1>to take an oath which includes acknowledging climate change, committing

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<v Speaker 1>to advocacy for environmental justice, and recognizing the systemic oppression

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<v Speaker 1>in real that that systemic oppression is real, and that hatred,

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<v Speaker 1>discrimination and biases marginalized people the hatred and discrimination biases

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<v Speaker 1>of those evil Christian right wingers whom were allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>hate with all of our fury.

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<v Speaker 2>Marginalized people.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think that your marginalize is a Christian By acting

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<v Speaker 1>like that, the Outdoorist Oath organization raises awareness about conduct

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<v Speaker 1>like microaggressions in the outdoors. What is an outdoor microaggression?

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<v Speaker 1>If I pee behind a tree? Is that a microaggression anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>It hosts activism workshops those sound like a real blast

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<v Speaker 1>called Stretch sessions, including sessions on white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, I'd love to sign up for one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>One of their members is a drag queen named Patty Gonia,

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<v Speaker 1>who was named by National Geographic as one of it's

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<v Speaker 1>nine Travelers of the Year in twenty twenty four. So

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<v Speaker 1>I continue to wonder, though, Okay, you got this humongous

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<v Speaker 1>flag on the side of El Capatan?

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<v Speaker 2>Was there?

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<v Speaker 1>Did did Yosemite Park staff help at all? Did they

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<v Speaker 1>get more access to it as a result of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>being friendly with the Yosemiti Park staff? The park staff

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<v Speaker 1>said they took it down as soon as they could.

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<v Speaker 1>It was up there for four hours, so was it

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as they could. They don't have anyone on

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<v Speaker 1>the top of El Capitan who could, like maybe tell people, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this, stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet again, flying your flag from the side of El

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<v Speaker 1>Capitan influencing basically nobody? All right, when we return, something

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<v Speaker 1>interesting happening at Buchanan High School next weekend high school

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<v Speaker 1>Track and Field Championships in which a boy is going

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<v Speaker 1>to win a bunch of the girl events.

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<v Speaker 2>Next on the John Girardi Show.

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<v Speaker 1>So next weekend at Buchanan High School is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the CIF the California Interschalactic Federation statewide Track and

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<v Speaker 1>Field Championships, and so you'll have kids doing all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of track and field events. There are a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>these events, the high jump, the long jump, and the

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<v Speaker 1>triple jump, in which a male athlete who identifies as

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<v Speaker 1>a female has dominated the Southern California sort of run

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<v Speaker 1>up events to these championships, and there will be this

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<v Speaker 1>biological male competing in the female events, a biological boy

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<v Speaker 1>who goes by a b Hernandez. He is in some

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<v Speaker 1>of these events completely dominantating the girls. And it again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this ridiculous situation that that's going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>display right here in Buchanan. And again this is just

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<v Speaker 1>to reinforce to maybe Clovis Unified parents, A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>close Unified parents seem to think that Clovis Unified is

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<v Speaker 1>immune to the liberal absurdities that we see in California

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<v Speaker 1>public education all up and down the street. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they think that the ghost of Doc Buchanan, Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Doc hovers over close Unified to protect it from all liberalism.

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<v Speaker 2>And he doesn't cloves. Unified is.

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<v Speaker 1>Every bit as required to comply with state laws about

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<v Speaker 1>transgenderism and transgender participation in sports and blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah as any other school district in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>And it'll be on display at Buchanan High.

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<v Speaker 1>School next week where there's going to be a who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kick everyone's butt in long jump high jump events?

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<v Speaker 2>That'll do it. John Girardi Show, see y'all next time

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<v Speaker 2>on Power Talk
