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Speaker 2: I interviewed back at Avian in twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 2: two years later I finally get to sit down with
Speaker 2: her again, but this time she's got two fresh Avian
Speaker 2: Awards under her belt, and by the way, it gave
Speaker 2: like the best speech on stage which I enjoyed it
Speaker 2: so much. She's a Speakler girl, She's a Browsers contract
Speaker 2: star and so much more. Welcome Ryan Reid.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, Shall I be looking more at this one
Speaker 3: or this one? Uh?
Speaker 2: This is your actual camera? Okay, so this is your
Speaker 2: close up.
Speaker 3: Hi. Guys, just a little dumb, don't mind being I'm
Speaker 3: really excited to be here.
Speaker 2: As the director. To be fair, I should have told
Speaker 2: you that.
Speaker 3: It's okay. We were busy doing other things.
Speaker 2: We were we were busy things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just kidding, we were actually doing anything.
Speaker 2: It's not that kind of podcast. Sorry, I thought it was.
Speaker 2: That's the Browsers podcast, right.
Speaker 3: Should you get on that? I don't know. It just
Speaker 3: like a pop back in real quick.
Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah, the browser. I remember when the Browsers
Speaker 2: podcast came about. I was like, huh wow, what's that
Speaker 2: all about? So that is they you guys like do
Speaker 2: a little interview first and yeah, just have sex afterwards.
Speaker 4: You go through like a couple of days before the
Speaker 4: last questions on Twitter for like the fans of X,
Speaker 4: Y and Z who's going to be on the pod.
Speaker 4: We answer some of those questions and then I mean,
Speaker 4: you're a host. You note that one question leads to
Speaker 4: this subtopic and this subtopic, so we never end up
Speaker 4: reading all of them, but we just kind of bounce
Speaker 4: around and then at some point someone's too horny and
Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, we're gonna wrap it here and head
Speaker 4: into the other room.
Speaker 2: Oh so you guys actually have sex in a different room. Yeah, okay, it.
Speaker 4: Starts though on the pod, but then they're like okay, okay,
Speaker 4: time to do your girly stuff, and then we'll actually
Speaker 4: go into sex.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so fun. Oh interesting. Yeah, because I was wondering,
Speaker 2: like how the segue happens.
Speaker 3: It's very organic.
Speaker 4: Okay, at least the ones I've been on, Like the
Speaker 4: questions just got hot and juicy and we're talking about
Speaker 4: what turns each other on, and then we're like okay,
Speaker 4: like this and.
Speaker 3: Then you're doing it and you're like, okay, let's go,
Speaker 3: let's go do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's always like how do you segue into
Speaker 2: the sex from a conversation, So that.
Speaker 3: Very happens, just organic and fluid.
Speaker 2: That's the best way you're ready to go. So one
Speaker 2: thing I do want to talk about before we get
Speaker 2: into your backstory and everything, just because we're fresh off
Speaker 2: of it at least now. I mean, if you're a
Speaker 2: PATREN member and you're watching live, this will make sense
Speaker 2: to you in the moment. If you're not and you're
Speaker 2: watching this when it's released, it'll be weeks later. So
Speaker 2: maybe it's old news, but to us it's new news.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about it now. So, and Nora swept
Speaker 2: the Oscars last night, yes, which we're in the sex
Speaker 2: We're community very excited about. A Noura was directed by
Speaker 2: Sean Baker, who has always been very much an ally
Speaker 2: of the sex work community, where his movies are indie
Speaker 2: and a lot of them revolve around like the adult
Speaker 2: industry and sex work. And what was really great about
Speaker 2: Anora winning like Lead Actress, Best Editing, Best Screenplay and
Speaker 2: Best Picture, which is amazing, and Best Directing. My gosh,
Speaker 2: can't forget that was the fact that not only did
Speaker 2: Sean Baker go up on stage and think the sex
Speaker 2: work community and thank them for like their stories and
Speaker 2: call himself an ally, so did the lead actress who
Speaker 2: won is adorable. It's so adorable. Yeah, I mean, how
Speaker 2: much of an ally are.
Speaker 3: Her name is Mickey.
Speaker 2: I'm blanking on her last name now. I just I know,
Speaker 2: I think it's two m's. It's Mickey something sorry, Mickey Madison. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's a porn name, to be honest.
Speaker 3: Come on maybe, come on over, come on over.
Speaker 2: But that for me, like that was really cool because
Speaker 2: you know, I mean we've always we've always been like
Speaker 2: the black sheep of the entertainment industry, right, like porn,
Speaker 2: Like we've always been looked down upon by Hollywood. And
Speaker 2: to see, like to be legitimized and recognized on the
Speaker 2: stage at the Oscars, the biggest night in Hollywood, Like
Speaker 2: for me, I felt like it was a really big step,
Speaker 2: Like what do you think about that?
Speaker 4: I feel like we always joke and say that Avian's
Speaker 4: like the porn Oscars, So like actually be getting like
Speaker 4: talked about at the Oscars, it's like, oh yeah, that's
Speaker 4: a real little goosebum moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, Golas, Yeah, I mean do you think that like
Speaker 2: sex work is starting to be recognized as real work,
Speaker 2: Like are we becoming more mainstream?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: But I think a lot of it is like getting
Speaker 4: glorified still that it's super easy and like I feel like.
Speaker 3: This could get me canceled.
Speaker 4: But the only fans only girls kind of ruin the
Speaker 4: mainstream porn girls image because they're like, oh, I imply
Speaker 4: I don't show anything, which is fine, do your imply,
Speaker 4: but don't promote that you're doing.
Speaker 3: Full blown sex works. That's not yees, so well what
Speaker 3: risky modeling? Shut up?
Speaker 2: So actually that is that brings up an interesting question
Speaker 2: that somebody asked me and I didn't I actually didn't
Speaker 2: know how to answer that. What is sex work? Specifically?
Speaker 3: I feel like being completely vulnerable and being your truest self,
Speaker 3: naked and afraid on the internet, that is sex work.
Speaker 2: So for you, it sounds like it means that when
Speaker 2: you're doing something that you're kind of like you're taking chances, right,
Speaker 2: going all in. Yeah, absolutely, you're risking the potential for
Speaker 2: stigma that'll follow you around for the rest of your life. Yep,
Speaker 2: relationships that'll be difficult to enter, losing relationships, even losing relationships,
Speaker 2: being ostracized from society, from your family, from friends.
Speaker 3: So for you, like, that's what like being all in absolutely.
Speaker 2: Interesting because I was trying to define it by like
Speaker 2: what specifically do you do right, Like, does it mean
Speaker 2: you're modeling naked? Does it mean you're showing your vagina.
Speaker 2: Does it mean you're showing your butttle? Does it mean
Speaker 2: you're master reading?
Speaker 3: Like so many?
Speaker 2: But for you, it's like the risk that you take right,
Speaker 2: like the yeah, like what the results are in terms
Speaker 2: of what comes after? That makes sense. I never looked
Speaker 2: at it that way, but that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Now I'm looking at it your way and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 4: am I saying it wrong? But no, I do it
Speaker 4: as in the risk. What makes me a sex worker
Speaker 4: is I'm risky and I do it all. Yeah, except
Speaker 4: for a gang ban. I haven't done that yet.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, but you did a blowbang, which you won
Speaker 2: an Avian Award for it, which was which was awesome
Speaker 2: to see you go up on stage. And I loved
Speaker 2: your quote at the end where you thank your boyfriend for.
Speaker 4: Letting me suck dick on the internet. Shout out to you, babe,
Speaker 4: thank you again.
Speaker 2: And you were actually you were quoted again later on, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah by Anna.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like and like Ryan said, thanks to my boyfriend,
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, thank you.
Speaker 3: Boyfriends. It was It's hard these boys that we call.
Speaker 4: Our boyfriends, like, I've had definitely my fair share of
Speaker 4: boyfriends that later on are like me or your job,
Speaker 4: and I'm like.
Speaker 2: My job, Yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't even in the same category obviously my job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you by what makes you decided to
Speaker 2: pick your job first?
Speaker 4: Cause at the end of the day, my job's never
Speaker 4: going to make me choose between the two, Like I
Speaker 4: could have both, I guess and if I don't have
Speaker 4: the boyfriend, I'll still be able to take care of
Speaker 4: myself with my job, where if I only have my boyfriend,
Speaker 4: guess what, I'm not gonna be able to take care
Speaker 4: of myself financially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're very much relying on him exactly. No
Speaker 2: one wants to be relying on yeah a person. Well
Speaker 2: you should never be relying on a person. Yeah, like emotionally,
Speaker 2: but not financially.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So dating is hard. Yeah, it's never mind. Now,
Speaker 3: love you babe. That's good.
Speaker 2: So can you tell us a little bit about your boyfriend,
Speaker 2: like whatever you're comfortable telling us, Like, how does it?
Speaker 2: How is it working for you?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: It's working a lot better than like past relationships. I
Speaker 4: think the age difference is really he's way more mature.
Speaker 4: I was always dating men either a year younger than
Speaker 4: me or year.
Speaker 3: Older than me and soldier. He is thirty five, I'm
Speaker 3: twenty six.
Speaker 4: Okay, so there's like a little bit of like an
Speaker 4: age gap, which I feel like, you have a frontal lobe, babe,
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: The guys I was dating didn't.
Speaker 2: Is it fully formed by twenty five or.
Speaker 3: I think girls get it at twenty five guys get
Speaker 3: it later on? No, I don't know. Can you google
Speaker 3: it for us?
Speaker 4: It's fact checked when a male frontal lobe develops. Yes,
Speaker 4: but no, he's the best.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 4: He uh just gets that work is work and outside
Speaker 4: of work, I could be me my legal like I'm
Speaker 4: two separate people, and I feel like he knows that
Speaker 4: when I'm performing it's a performance, and when I'm in
Speaker 4: the bedroom with him, it's like not the same where
Speaker 4: I'd have exes that'd be like, oh, I saw this
Speaker 4: video and you made this sound. Why don't you make
Speaker 4: that sound with me? And I'm like, well, he's way bigger.
Speaker 4: It's just I guess maturity at the end of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was just dating in confidence.
Speaker 2: That too, right, because if you're like going online and
Speaker 2: comparing yourself to other people, that's yeah. That wait, women's
Speaker 2: frontal lobe is.
Speaker 3: Larger than males.
Speaker 2: Well, dah, I mean, what.
Speaker 3: Do you mean that? Of course it's bigger. I mean,
Speaker 3: of course is the bigger.
Speaker 2: And then when you find that out, just for context,
Speaker 2: can you give us a definition of what the frontal
Speaker 2: lobe does, just like, so people understand why we feel
Speaker 2: we're superior if having right.
Speaker 4: Now of like, their frontal lobe is developed, like what
Speaker 4: is a frontal lobe?
Speaker 2: Okay, so interesting, So just to summarize, guys, and then
Speaker 2: when you find me the official definition, ernie, okay, So
Speaker 2: just to summarize, guys, the frontal lobe is fully developed
Speaker 2: in women twenty to twenty one, which is why I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people say that maybe you shouldn't
Speaker 2: get into porn until twenty twenty one, and it's not
Speaker 2: fully developed until in guys until between twenty five to
Speaker 2: early thirties.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: This is what the Internet says, so therefore it must
Speaker 2: be true.
Speaker 3: Always true. If Google says it, it's true.
Speaker 2: And then say the definition for what the frontal lobe
Speaker 2: does in your brain. The official definition is this.
Speaker 3: Is obviously in the front of your brain. The responsibility
Speaker 3: includes how you move, how you remember things, social skills,
Speaker 3: social skills that's a big one.
Speaker 2: And control and control of how Okay, so it's social
Speaker 2: skills how you behave interact with others. So basically, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean social skills. It's like you're reasoning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like that makes sense.
Speaker 2: It's known as the action lobe. Okay, all right, the
Speaker 2: official definition.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Podcast today, Yeah, we learned things. Welcome to Science with
Speaker 2: Holly rantle.
Speaker 3: Ally and Ryan take on Sites. Actually it's kind of
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you might into something.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of into it. I'm kind of into it too.
Speaker 4: You can have like laundrye under the lapcoat, yes, and
Speaker 4: just be like doing weird things.
Speaker 2: Yes, And then like we come up with hypothesises, yes, hypotheses, yes,
Speaker 2: right absolutely yeah, and then like you test your hypotheses
Speaker 2: and then like whoever gets it wrong has to take
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Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm always wrong strip science.
Speaker 2: Look at us, just like, oh my god, we're fifteen
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Speaker 2: Okay we were talking about dating. Oh, yes, we were.
Speaker 3: Okay, so do you like you much me?
Speaker 2: Okay? So your boyfriend okay, So he's older, so that helps, Yes,
Speaker 2: the confidence that comes with age.
Speaker 3: That and he just gets me.
Speaker 4: I feel like in a way that any of my
Speaker 4: past relationships, like it doesn't even compare. He could just
Speaker 4: look at me and be like, yeah, that's how she's feeling.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to approach that situation or like interesting.
Speaker 4: He could just navigate me better.
Speaker 3: Than I can when I'm like who are you? How'd
Speaker 3: you gays meet?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is so funny. We met in
Speaker 4: a threesome with Gal Richie.
Speaker 3: It's the only way to meet somebody. So I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is my husband. One day.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell my kids that. Like anti Gal. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she also.
Speaker 2: Fuckedd, Like so he works in the industry.
Speaker 3: He does it? Oh he doesn't, he does it.
Speaker 4: He literally was just a civilian that we met at
Speaker 4: the bar and we were like, hey, he's hot, got
Speaker 4: his number, And then Gal was supposed to look up
Speaker 4: with one of his friends because I was like, hey,
Speaker 4: you got a homeboy for my friend, Like we all
Speaker 4: trying to get some tonight and then he was like yeah.
Speaker 4: So then we all went back to his place that night,
Speaker 4: and Gal like looked at the friend that he got was.
Speaker 3: Like, I was like, just come with me.
Speaker 4: So we both just decided to run a train on him.
Speaker 4: Wow basically wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then the next day I was like, sorry, Gal,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna run it by myself tonight.
Speaker 3: Wow. That's funny. Yeah, that's so cute, isn't it? Modern
Speaker 3: day love?
Speaker 4: Like we met in a threesome and then I fucked
Speaker 4: him the next day by myself, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: this is kind of good. And then I've shared with
Speaker 4: other girls in the industry too.
Speaker 3: It's a good one.
Speaker 2: So you guys have like an open relationship. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: that was like I remember Susie Q and Michael Vegas
Speaker 2: they met in a gang bang.
Speaker 3: See, it's like love, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: like sharing is caring. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's so funny though, because when we first started dating
Speaker 4: it's almost been a year now, we were very like
Speaker 4: out there doing our things, and now it's kind of
Speaker 4: like we got a little lazy with it, so now
Speaker 4: we're not doing the open as much. It's more just like, hey,
Speaker 4: let's have sex with each other. It's not so much
Speaker 4: like hey, I have your friend, I'll have my friend,
Speaker 4: like kind of boring.
Speaker 2: I mean that happens, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: once you've been in them, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, but we're not against it.
Speaker 4: It's just like we're like, yeah, I know how to
Speaker 4: get you off, you know how to get me off.
Speaker 3: We're good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm in with my husband for nine years.
Speaker 3: It gets worse. It's great. Can't wait until Lowe developed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so perfect. I would say, so what.
Speaker 4: Is it my extension. Yeah, they're falling out, they're living
Speaker 4: their best life. Producers keep this cute of it in.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I don't don't care. They can give it in.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: I kind of like I was talking to Shari. Here
Speaker 4: we go again, bouncing off the work. I was talking
Speaker 4: to Shari. We were in that book signing thing, the
Speaker 4: book signing thing for Brasser's new book.
Speaker 3: Release, and my extension was saying out.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, can you cover that up
Speaker 4: Strey And she was like, no, having like tracks of
Speaker 4: your hair showing, it's like kind of like wary fun.
Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, I kind of like that.
Speaker 4: It's like you're just like a crazy whore, like show
Speaker 4: the fact that you have your hair showing, like who cares?
Speaker 3: Like how much did you spend on that hair?
Speaker 4: And I was like make a good point, like let
Speaker 4: them know that you have like a couple grand just
Speaker 4: hanging out of your head right now.
Speaker 3: Why not.
Speaker 2: It's like the people who leave price tags on like
Speaker 2: their clothes, yeah, their hats. This is my price dog.
Speaker 2: Suria is all about authenticity. I will say that I
Speaker 2: love her. Yeah, I do too. She's one of my
Speaker 2: best friends.
Speaker 4: I literally love her the first time I got to
Speaker 4: work with her and her noises she makes, storing her performances.
Speaker 2: And the things that she says.
Speaker 3: So huh.
Speaker 2: I know what she's like because she is such an
Speaker 2: intelligent like you know, I don't want to say like
Speaker 2: normal person because it's not like, yeah, porn stars aren't normal,
Speaker 2: but you know what you mean, like.
Speaker 3: Your little cucko, Sure you know what you are.
Speaker 2: You're free to be who you are exactly you want
Speaker 2: to be. You're not You're not tethered byol not put
Speaker 2: in a box. Yeah, the like expectations of society, like
Speaker 2: you are here, you are which is why I love
Speaker 2: porn stars. But yeah, I mean she's just somebody like
Speaker 2: who if you met her, you know, outside of the
Speaker 2: adult industry, Like, you would never guess that she was
Speaker 2: like a porn star.
Speaker 3: She's just so like not.
Speaker 4: I ran into her one time. We were getting food
Speaker 4: somewhere forget where, but she was just like fulld garden
Speaker 4: looking like just house of the Prairie type, get long dress.
Speaker 4: You would have never thought that that girl busts it
Speaker 4: wide the fuck.
Speaker 3: Open on the internet. Yeah, never.
Speaker 2: And then like and then you film her and then
Speaker 2: the things that come out of her mouth during seeds, You're.
Speaker 3: Like, what the way did you say? It's crazy?
Speaker 2: Which is like I love her even more. I love
Speaker 2: I love people who surprise me so fun, you know,
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: And then she doesn't care how gross and sweaty she
Speaker 4: gets if her eyelash is now on her forehead like
Speaker 4: such such a good.
Speaker 3: Time to work.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: In no, no, no, it's good. We do what we
Speaker 2: always do. Start at the beginning. How did you get
Speaker 2: into the adult industry?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 4: I was on a like good one, which just having fun,
Speaker 4: experiencing life. I was had a salon job, working behind
Speaker 4: a chair, cosmetologist, really fun, but very routine. You had
Speaker 4: your same clients, you woke up, you want to work.
Speaker 3: What did you do specifically?
Speaker 4: I have my cosmetology license and then I have my
Speaker 4: barbering license. So I did women's cuts, women's colors, men's cuts,
Speaker 4: pretty much everything. Okay, so hair, hair, yeah, basically anything
Speaker 4: that has to do with hair, I did it.
Speaker 3: But it was so.
Speaker 4: I knew what I was doing every day, and I
Speaker 4: didn't love that. I wanted something crazy, I wanted to
Speaker 4: do more. But I loved making people feel good about themselves.
Speaker 4: And I knew that as soon as that person was
Speaker 4: leaving my chair, that they felt better about themselves, whether
Speaker 4: it's confidence or.
Speaker 3: Just they felt better when they left.
Speaker 4: So I always wanted to have some sort of career
Speaker 4: in making people feel good about themselves.
Speaker 3: I love that. And then suddenly I've been porn making
Speaker 3: people feel even better about themselves. But is this kind
Speaker 3: of like a two part thing? I guess.
Speaker 4: I saw Riley read on my Instagram like for you
Speaker 4: page or what I Explore page. I say, oh my god,
Speaker 4: this girl's so cute. Didn't know what a porn stares.
Speaker 4: I mean, I knew porn stares existed, but I didn't
Speaker 4: know she was eight porn star. So I comment on
Speaker 4: one other things and I was like, like, shit, you're hot.
Speaker 4: And she ended up messaging me and was like, you're
Speaker 4: not real. You're a catfish. And I was like, when
Speaker 4: was this twenty.
Speaker 3: Eighteen? I mean so she was big by that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say like early or end of twenty seventeen,
Speaker 4: early twenty eighteen, okay probably, And she was like, you're
Speaker 4: not real. Send a picture with a shoe on your
Speaker 4: head so I could tell you're not a catfish. And
Speaker 4: I was like, the fuck who is this girl? And
Speaker 4: then my ex boyfriend was like, oh my god, you
Speaker 4: don't know who that is. Let's right, read like you're
Speaker 4: talking to like a famous porn star and I was like, yeah, sure, okay,
Speaker 4: and then I went to go send a picture with
Speaker 4: a shoe on my head. And by the time I
Speaker 4: went to send a picture with the shoe on my head,
Speaker 4: she had a shoe on her head. And I was like,
Speaker 4: who the fuck is this? What is happening? Am I
Speaker 4: just making my best friend?
Speaker 3: Like what? This is weird?
Speaker 4: And then she realized I was real and she's like,
Speaker 4: you're so cute, and I was like you're so cute.
Speaker 4: She's like, my birthday party is in La you should come,
Speaker 4: and I was like, uh, I just graduated high school
Speaker 4: and I am broke as shit. Don't know how that's
Speaker 4: gonna work. So then I was talking to one of
Speaker 4: my other friends who had a premium snapchat. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you just send dudes like pictures of your feet or
Speaker 4: your tits and like they'll send you money for it.
Speaker 4: I was like okay. So then I started doing that
Speaker 4: and very quickly realized that you could make money off
Speaker 4: snapchat at a rapid pace, especially during that time like
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I was like, yeah, that was like poppin'.
Speaker 4: So I did that and then I ended up going
Speaker 4: to her birthday party and then so it was like
Speaker 4: here's a little bit of porn, and then here's porn.
Speaker 4: I went there and I was like, this is actually porn.
Speaker 4: What I was doing was not porn. That was just
Speaker 4: like a girl trying to get some fucking money. Like
Speaker 4: this is crazy. So I ended up going to her
Speaker 4: birthday party. Everything was great. I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 4: she's so fun. Came back home. I was still working
Speaker 4: my saloon job, and then of course for a little
Speaker 4: extra money, doing my thing on my premium Snapchat. And
Speaker 4: then her birthday rolls around again and was like, hey,
Speaker 4: come my birthday party again. And at this point and
Speaker 4: I was starting to dabble in the only fans. That's
Speaker 4: when it was starting to pop off, like twenty nineteen ish,
Speaker 4: So now I had my premium Snapchat and my only fans.
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, I'm coming. Hell yeah. So I ended
Speaker 4: up flying out for a birthday again, and this time
Speaker 4: I stayed a little bit and was like, do I
Speaker 4: want to move out here? This seems fun? And talked
Speaker 4: to her about it all and she's like, well, you're
Speaker 4: you love what you do now, so like it's up
Speaker 4: to you. Like I'm not gonna tell you this is
Speaker 4: the way to go, Like, you have to make your
Speaker 4: own decisions. I was like, okay, So I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go with full porn.
Speaker 3: I don't think I want to do it.
Speaker 4: Like I'm having fun with what I'm doing. My parents
Speaker 4: will fucking kill me. I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 4: Did your parents know you were doing like the snapchat
Speaker 4: only fans thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay they did.
Speaker 4: Uh here we go again and bouncing around in high school,
Speaker 4: I sent my sister's ex boyfriend a nude. Didn't know
Speaker 4: it was her boyfriend, and my sister found it on
Speaker 4: her boyfriend's phone and send it to my mom and dad,
Speaker 4: and that's how they found out I was going to
Speaker 4: be a whore. My sister released that information, but also
Speaker 4: like that at her boyfriend's part, not mine.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I thought it was just user one eight nine wanting
Speaker 4: a picture of my tits.
Speaker 3: How did I know?
Speaker 2: So he was on your snapchat?
Speaker 3: Yes? Oh?
Speaker 2: I thought, like you like you knew him from school
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Oh, how was I supposed to know? Yeah? That wasn't
Speaker 3: my fault, that was his fault.
Speaker 2: Oh, but I was.
Speaker 3: The bad guy and they still continued to date after.
Speaker 2: For a little bit, But did he know that you
Speaker 2: were her sister? Yeah?
Speaker 3: He was like at family dinners. Oh that's weird.
Speaker 4: And I thought I was just like sending user five
Speaker 4: seventy eight nine it make sure of my tits.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh that's weird.
Speaker 4: It's like a small world sometimes, yeah, but it's not.
Speaker 4: It is, so that whole thing happened. Then I go
Speaker 4: back home after the second birthday party, stayed for a
Speaker 4: little bit, told my mom.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do porn. She was like, no,
Speaker 3: you're not. And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a U Haul tomorrow, pack everything I
Speaker 4: have in a U Haul, and I'm gonna drive to California.
Speaker 4: She's like absolutely, not, like me and your dad will
Speaker 4: ever talk to you again. I was like, ay, that's fine.
Speaker 4: I went and got the U Haul, backed everything I
Speaker 4: had and drove from Pittsburgh to California. Yeah, And I
Speaker 4: rented a room and like a shared Airbnb. Oh, rough,
Speaker 4: really rough. I stayed there till like two weeks ish,
Speaker 4: and then I was like, yeah, I'm going broke staying
Speaker 4: at this airbnb and I want to put money down
Speaker 4: for an apartment.
Speaker 3: I was like, this isn't working anymore.
Speaker 4: So then I ended up staying out of my car
Speaker 4: slash U haul that I had rented out. So I'm
Speaker 4: like waking up in the morning putting out my clothes
Speaker 4: and the U haul, sleeping in my car. And then
Speaker 4: finally I found a like really shitty apartment that would
Speaker 4: take me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Started, and then COVID happened, and I was like, fuck,
Speaker 4: I want to get.
Speaker 2: An agent or were you just like self booking.
Speaker 4: I was just doing my only fans in premium Snapchat.
Speaker 4: And then COVID happened, and I literally a week or
Speaker 4: two before everything fully shut down, had my first meeting
Speaker 4: with Speaker.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: He's like I'm ready, I'm gonna do it, and seelers like, okay, perfect,
Speaker 4: we're gonna start booking things like we'll get the ball rolling.
Speaker 3: COVID happened crickets, and I was like, it's a sign.
Speaker 4: Maybe I wasn't supposed to go all in and I
Speaker 4: wasn't supposed to book and shoot crazy pornos.
Speaker 3: So I took a step back.
Speaker 4: Still did my only Fans premium Snapchat, and I was like, no,
Speaker 4: I don't feel like a porn star unless I'm doing X,
Speaker 4: Y and Z, Like I feel like these girls won't
Speaker 4: give me the cred I want if I'm not doing
Speaker 4: all working for everyone. So I was like, no, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do it. So there was like, okay, let's do it.
Speaker 4: And then my first scene actually ended up being with Browsers.
Speaker 4: My first ever porno was with Browsers, So full circle
Speaker 4: to be contracted when that was my first scenes.
Speaker 3: Crazy, So when was your first scene?
Speaker 2: Because because I remember so, I obviously was working for
Speaker 2: them back then and we took like the steps that
Speaker 2: we took to get back into production was kind of weird, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: At first, it was like self shot scenes. That's what
Speaker 2: my first thing was.
Speaker 3: Okay. It was like an arcade at home.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, so you shot it with somebody else?
Speaker 4: Yes, I shot a solo with myself and then I
Speaker 4: shot yeah boy girl with my ex.
Speaker 2: Boyfriend oh a performer, yeah, which and you just like
Speaker 2: on the cell phone and then sent in then like
Speaker 2: they would.
Speaker 3: Which also was like this is what I'm doing on
Speaker 3: my only fans right now. I want to do more
Speaker 3: be a part of this fit in.
Speaker 4: So it was like kind of like a fuck, I
Speaker 4: want to do it and they're still not letting me
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but here I am doing it.
Speaker 2: So then there was that, and then we moved to
Speaker 2: it was so weird. We'd rent a location oh.
Speaker 3: And then leave yeah, yeah, weird.
Speaker 2: And then I'd have to go there. I'd set up
Speaker 2: the lights.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: I'd set up like a cell phone. They'd like, they
Speaker 2: paid for me to get like a brand new, like
Speaker 2: high end cell phone.
Speaker 3: To watch production happen.
Speaker 2: No, no, for the talent to use. And then I'd
Speaker 2: set it up and then I'd leave the paperwork there
Speaker 2: and then I'd leave and then the talent would get there,
Speaker 2: they'd sign the paperwork, then they'd FaceTime me yeah at
Speaker 2: that part, tell them how to do it, and then
Speaker 2: they would film it and then they would leave and
Speaker 2: then I would come back and get like the paperwork
Speaker 2: and the files and stuff. Did you say that, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: so crazy. Yeah, it was really all for the love
Speaker 2: of porn. So Riley Read actually took you under her
Speaker 2: wing when you first started getting in, right, So tell
Speaker 2: me a little bit about that, and why did you
Speaker 2: think that she wanted to mentor you specifically out of
Speaker 2: all of the girls getting in the industry.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so I'd say she officially took me under
Speaker 4: her wing. Was like during her wedding, which is so funny.
Speaker 4: At her wedding was the first time I met face
Speaker 4: to face with Speakler. I just like heard of Mark Spiegeler, Spiegeler,
Speaker 4: this speaker that, and I just never had like obviously
Speaker 4: you could look him up on Google, but I never
Speaker 4: put like a full face to the name. And it
Speaker 4: was at her wedding that finally was like, oh, you're
Speaker 4: that guy. And then I met George that night as well,
Speaker 4: and he's like, yeah, yeah, she's cute for sure. Why
Speaker 4: do you think like she should be a Spiegeler girl?
Speaker 4: And then Riley was like her personality, like she's a
Speaker 4: great personality. And then she clearly knows how the work,
Speaker 4: like she does it all herself. She's done her remium,
Speaker 4: Snapchat and her only fans now for like three years
Speaker 4: two and a half years by herself. Like she knows
Speaker 4: how to work, she has the drive and everything else
Speaker 4: needed to be like a solid performer. And I think
Speaker 4: she saw all that potential and was like I'll take her.
Speaker 2: What was your first thought when you met Mark by
Speaker 2: the way, terrified.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you hear about like pimps and all of those
Speaker 4: crazy fucking things.
Speaker 3: I was like absolutely terrified. The first time.
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, come over to my apartment. I was like, what,
Speaker 4: I like, said Riley, And it's like he asked me
Speaker 4: to come to his apartment during the day.
Speaker 3: I should be fine, right.
Speaker 4: And she's like, yeah, go over, like he probably just
Speaker 4: wants to talk to you about, like what all you're
Speaker 4: willing to do. And I was like to him and
Speaker 4: she's like no, like in the industry, like yeah an
Speaker 4: old boy girl girl girl.
Speaker 2: Mark the one agent that like you don't have. He
Speaker 2: does not want to fuck you, no at all. I thought.
Speaker 3: He pushes me off and I'm like no, I want
Speaker 3: to keep picture and he's like I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm like okay, he's like absolutely not interested.
Speaker 4: I go over and he's just sitting on his couch
Speaker 4: with his Catlexi and his you know graphic T shirts
Speaker 4: that he always wears with the fucking dumb writing, Yeah
Speaker 4: that's his signature.
Speaker 2: Loves his signature, like something about whrrores yeah something.
Speaker 4: Always he's panning his cat Lexi and he's like so
Speaker 4: you ought to be a porn star. Yeah, and he
Speaker 4: was like, well, you have a lot of tattoos.
Speaker 3: I don't think I want you on my website or
Speaker 3: like on the roster.
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I'll leave and he was like no,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, don't get any more.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, I won't.
Speaker 4: And like for a first year being with Spiegler, I
Speaker 4: didn't get any more tattoos, and then slowly would get more,
Speaker 4: very slowly, And then he'd send me a like screenshots,
Speaker 4: this wasn't here six months ago.
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, it's been there, it's been
Speaker 4: there a Spiegler, it's never Yeah, you just didn't see it.
Speaker 2: But did he believe it? No, No, you can't trick him. No,
Speaker 2: He's like he's untrickable. Yeah, Like I literally you can.
Speaker 2: He's showed me how girls have sent him pictures of
Speaker 2: like a flat tire to say that like they can't
Speaker 2: make it to set, and he will like find the
Speaker 2: metadata in that photo.
Speaker 3: On Google Yah's image search, yeah, or.
Speaker 2: Like record like he'll like he'll search the metadata of
Speaker 2: the picture and like see that it was taken, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know like months ago or like.
Speaker 4: About like girls doing like old photos of outbreaks. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and like he'll go back and be like, ah, this
Speaker 4: photo was taken actually in March of last year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this isn't an active I'll break this was from last year. Sorry,
Speaker 4: you're gonna be out set tomorrow nine am. Like, how
Speaker 4: do you know everything? He's literally a dad, Yeah, literally
Speaker 4: a dad. He will yell at you. He will punish you,
Speaker 4: but not like a bad punishment, but like he'll get
Speaker 4: y'alled at for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He doesn't take any shit, No, not at all.
Speaker 4: And I feeel like I met him later on where
Speaker 4: he doesn't have as much spunk in him, where like
Speaker 4: the OG's girls will be like, yeah, you have no idea.
Speaker 4: He used to be scarier, and I was like.
Speaker 3: I would have never been with him then. Yeah, but no,
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 2: He's not the right agent for everybody, No, definitely not no,
Speaker 2: yeah at all.
Speaker 3: I know like a lot of girls will bash him
Speaker 3: and it's like, no, he just wasn't. Yeah he's not
Speaker 3: the right It wasn't for you.
Speaker 2: He's not the right agent for everyone, but he seems
Speaker 2: to be the right agent for you.
Speaker 3: You like working with him. I love them.
Speaker 4: Yes, you Lear and Riley. They're so combined in my
Speaker 4: life where if it wasn't for the one, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: have the other. Anytime I talk about either of them,
Speaker 4: I end up talking about both of them because they're
Speaker 4: just such like puzzle pieces in my life that I
Speaker 4: need forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming that your last name came from Riley. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: And it is confusing sometimes.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll be on set all the time people
Speaker 4: will be like Riley and I'm like, Ryan, what do
Speaker 4: you want?
Speaker 2: You became a Brassars contract star last year. Yes, so
Speaker 2: tell me a little bit about that. How has it
Speaker 2: affected your career and like were you expecting it and
Speaker 2: what was your reaction when you got that call?
Speaker 3: So I definitely was manifesting it.
Speaker 4: I can't say I was expecting it to happen, but
Speaker 4: I was always like telling myself, it's gonna happen, It's
Speaker 4: gonna happen, It's gonna happen. And I was at their
Speaker 4: Venus Berlin show. I don't know if you know anything
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in Germany. Crazy, Yeah, it's crazy crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Leah Alexis was telling me that, like the fans could.
Speaker 3: Show up naked.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, which h really shocked me.
Speaker 3: Don't love it. Don't love it because they still want photos.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, gross bleach isn't enough.
Speaker 3: Oh I love my fans, but please do not put
Speaker 3: your genitals on me. Oh don't want them on me unless.
Speaker 4: I'm asking for them on me, which I probably won't.
Speaker 3: But I love you guys crazy. Yeah, Like the hugs
Speaker 3: that have been in Berlin just raw me, just raw
Speaker 3: dog and the hugs raw me.
Speaker 4: And you're like, it is thirty degrees outside, put on
Speaker 4: a jacket something, go away, disgusting.
Speaker 2: How many people are naked?
Speaker 3: You give fuck? There?
Speaker 4: Like there's people literally having sex. It's a very like
Speaker 4: cool experience but scary. But anyways, I was there and
Speaker 4: I had a fan interaction that I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: so much, I need a breather. And they pulled me
Speaker 4: aside and they're like, yeah, we want to have a
Speaker 4: meeting with you anyways, and I was like, okay, yea,
Speaker 4: let's have a meeting. And they're like, we want to
Speaker 4: sign you as our next brazeis contract star but in
Speaker 4: four months and you can't tell anyone. I was like,
Speaker 4: what do you mean? And they're like anyone outside of
Speaker 4: the booth right now. They can't know, so don't go
Speaker 4: in there smiling.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, go in there smiling.
Speaker 3: I like, what do you mean.
Speaker 4: They're like, if you want to go back to the
Speaker 4: whole tellroom, that's fine, and I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have to because I'm on cloud nine right now,
Speaker 4: Like I can't just go back out there and be like,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So they announced it. I
Speaker 4: was freaking the fuck out. I went back to my
Speaker 4: hotel room and just rubbed one out out of excitement.
Speaker 4: I was so excited, Oh my god. And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: no one can know until Avim.
Speaker 3: We're gonna make an announcement in av and I remember
Speaker 3: when they did that. Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 4: And then Avian's happening and everyone's in the makeup room.
Speaker 4: What's this announcement that's happening? Like why do we have
Speaker 4: to do this announcement? Why does everyone have to be
Speaker 4: at the booth? And I'm like, fuck, people are getting
Speaker 4: annoyed about this, and there's already like some crazy jealousy
Speaker 4: that happens within the industry, which is healthy and normal whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm like competition.
Speaker 3: It is. It is what it is.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, fuck, these girls don't already want to
Speaker 4: do this thing, and now they're going to be mad
Speaker 4: because it's for me and that I already have haters,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, shit, can we just just make it
Speaker 4: an Instagram post. Let's not make it a big ordeal
Speaker 4: at Avian. Let's just make it an Instagram post.
Speaker 3: Hey, new grousers contract star, Let's not make get a
Speaker 3: whole thing. They're like, no, it's gonna be good. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be good.
Speaker 4: And then they did the big announcement, and honestly, to
Speaker 4: this day, I feel like the announcement I wish.
Speaker 3: I could relive.
Speaker 4: I think that was way cooler than winning awards because
Speaker 4: that's something I get to wear like every day with pride.
Speaker 4: Every time I show up to set where your award.
Speaker 4: It's like, you did that one thing good. I kept
Speaker 4: doing things good and brat swine Browsers continues to keep me.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And like you constantly you're representing.
Speaker 3: Them, like every day, every single day where you right now,
Speaker 3: you're wearing there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like I just love Browsers.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite thing about being a browser's contract stor I.
Speaker 3: Kind of get to be my own boss.
Speaker 4: Like if there's some sort of weird scenario that I
Speaker 4: come up with and I'm like, hey, let's make this happen,
Speaker 4: they will use their funds and their resources to make
Speaker 4: it happen, which is the coolest thing ever where just
Speaker 4: be like, hey, I had this weird dream or hey
Speaker 4: I had this weird thought where this person fucks this
Speaker 4: person and I'm the other person and then we're also
Speaker 4: in a truck at a trucker stop and call me
Speaker 4: a lot lizard, and they're like, yeah, let's do it,
Speaker 4: and they make it happen. So that's probably like my
Speaker 4: favorite part is being able to just come up with
Speaker 4: ideas and being like the boss of my own stuff.
Speaker 4: Now where if you're going to a different set, you're
Speaker 4: performing as whatever it may be.
Speaker 3: That the crew already decided.
Speaker 4: You're like, hey, show up in red Lingerie and you're
Speaker 4: gonna be the babysitter.
Speaker 2: So the fact that they take your input and they
Speaker 2: can collaborate and it feels, you know, like you're not
Speaker 2: just a performer.
Speaker 4: Like exactly, and they enjoy the gross sex. I guess
Speaker 4: you could say where some companies want that very like
Speaker 4: proper Yeah, they want that gremlin sex. They love it,
Speaker 4: and I feel like I love the gremlin sex too,
Speaker 4: So it just works out. Like me and s Tre
Speaker 4: were talking about this and we're like, yeah, like, if
Speaker 4: it wasn't for browsers, we'd probably be fucked because we
Speaker 4: have this very like crazy way of performing and just
Speaker 4: letting loose that some companies don't love.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean every brand's got their their I.
Speaker 3: Look, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: But that's what's great about the ditail industry. There's a
Speaker 2: place for everybody, hey.
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Speaker 2: Do you come across a lot of like jealousy and
Speaker 2: like competition in the industry.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's more so and as in like
Speaker 4: girls will just randomly stop talking to you out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: You're like, hey, I liked you. I thought we were friends.
Speaker 4: Why are suddenly you not liking me? And then I'll
Speaker 4: talk to like Speakler George about it and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're probably jealous. I'm like, that's done. Yeah, I'm a loser.
Speaker 3: And I know that a lucky loser because she ended
Speaker 3: up with a contract, But I'm still a loser.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that your parents said that they would never
Speaker 2: talk to you again. Yeah, if you got into the industry. Yes,
Speaker 2: and then you packed up your U haul and you
Speaker 2: moved out here. Yes, did they talk to you anymore?
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that little mad mom moment lasted like maybe forty
Speaker 4: eight hours. Maybe forty eight hours. I didn't even make
Speaker 4: it to La and she's reached out.
Speaker 3: Are you okay? Yeah? Mom, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: So do you guys have a good relationship now?
Speaker 3: Yes? Does she love what I do for like work? No?
Speaker 4: But is she like understand it more than she did
Speaker 4: in the beginning. Yes, because I feel like I brought
Speaker 4: her around the right people that are in the industry
Speaker 4: that she now realizes like it's not what the media
Speaker 4: made it seem like for her, like time, Yeah, because
Speaker 4: it was bad. It was all getting pimped out and
Speaker 4: really sketchy situations and shit like that where I show her, Oh,
Speaker 4: meet this friend who was also a performer and also
Speaker 4: now has a baby and a husband, and then meet
Speaker 4: this friend who actually has two babies and a husband.
Speaker 4: So she sees that, like, I could still have a
Speaker 4: life after this, And I think when I first initially
Speaker 4: told her, she thought that this was it for me.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be able to find like a partner, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to have a family.
Speaker 3: And that's so.
Speaker 4: Far from the truth. Being in the industry and doesn't
Speaker 4: end any of that. You could still have all of that.
Speaker 2: Do you want to have a family? I do, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you want to one day.
Speaker 3: One day hopefully a boy mom. I feel like if
Speaker 3: I have another one of me, I would hate that.
Speaker 3: I'm a lot. I'm a lot. I feel like I
Speaker 3: want to feel like what's forty mom. Yeah I don't
Speaker 3: want a diva. I'm a diva.
Speaker 2: Yeah that'll be hard, but.
Speaker 4: I'll probably end up with a diva and be like, well,
Speaker 4: m yeah, it just comes around action.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, my daughters just like me.
Speaker 4: See Hi, I know I'm gonna get stuck with that,
Speaker 4: she's just like me, but like I'll be so happy,
Speaker 4: but also be like.
Speaker 3: Fuck, what did I Why was I like that? It's
Speaker 3: a kid? Yeah, why did I do this?
Speaker 2: I know it's not. I mean, like she's four right now,
Speaker 2: so like right now it's adorable and lovely and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so great, but like, man, when she's a teenager,
Speaker 2: I am scared. She's already like pushing me out of
Speaker 2: her room sometimes, like slamming the door in my face,
Speaker 2: like you know, like leave me alone. I can do
Speaker 2: it myself. I'm like, when she's thirteen, screwed this. I'm
Speaker 2: so screwed.
Speaker 3: I'm so screwed. Maybe you have another one. Can't try
Speaker 3: too old. You can always do that IVF stuff.
Speaker 2: The problem is my eggs are not good enough anymore.
Speaker 3: I'll give you one, but if it's a boy, give
Speaker 3: it back. I'll give you one. If it's a girl,
Speaker 3: you can have it. If it's a boy, I want
Speaker 3: to back.
Speaker 2: Well, So the thing is what you would actually do
Speaker 2: is you would implant. You would get the embryo, like
Speaker 2: you would know before you put it in your body.
Speaker 4: No way, Yeah, they can know the sex just by
Speaker 4: the egg.
Speaker 3: Uh So what you would.
Speaker 2: So what you do is you take the egg and
Speaker 2: then you take the sperm and you fertilize it before
Speaker 2: you implant it in the body. So then you know
Speaker 2: if it's a boy or a girl before you put
Speaker 2: it in.
Speaker 3: Okay, back to our lab coats and launchers, right, that's insane. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I don't they just know.
Speaker 2: I don't know the So usually it depends on, like
Speaker 2: there's various steps that you can take and various amounts
Speaker 2: of money that you can spend when you do IVF,
Speaker 2: So you get to pick yes depending on how many
Speaker 2: you get right. So it depends on like how many eggs.
Speaker 2: So if it's your own eggs, it depends on how
Speaker 2: many eggs you release, right, and then they try to
Speaker 2: fertilize like all of the eggs. Some of them won't
Speaker 2: take right, and then so those are those go away,
Speaker 2: and then the ones that do take you if you
Speaker 2: want to spend the money, you can do further genetic
Speaker 2: testing on them to make sure that they're healthy, because
Speaker 2: some of them they you know, they're not good, and
Speaker 2: when you implant them they might you might miscarry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So if you decide to go through all the genetic
Speaker 2: testing that might narrow down the amount of embryos that
Speaker 2: you have left, and so you may only have like
Speaker 2: maybe like two boys or two so then you won't
Speaker 2: be able to pick. But you may have a choice
Speaker 2: of boys and girls, and then you can choose which
Speaker 2: ones you want to implant. But it could also still
Speaker 2: not take could you have like you could you could
Speaker 2: implant the embryo and maybe you could miscarry and you
Speaker 2: could lose it. So it's not guaranteed and wouldn't be
Speaker 2: Some people do do them, but then that's how you
Speaker 2: end up with twins. Yeah, here's something crazy. So a
Speaker 2: friend of mine, actually my sister's best friend. This is
Speaker 2: so wild. She's pregnant with fraternal twins. And they're a
Speaker 2: weak apart how because she when you're older, you tend
Speaker 2: to drop more than one egg, and so she dropped
Speaker 2: two eggs, and her and her husband had sex like
Speaker 2: a week apart, and so he fertilized the first egg
Speaker 2: and then he fertilized the second egg later. But I've
Speaker 2: literally never heard of this before. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: That is insane nuts.
Speaker 2: I didn't actually know that was possible. But yeah, so
Speaker 2: she's pregnant with twins.
Speaker 3: That are a week apart, So would the would one
Speaker 3: be a week late or.
Speaker 2: One be a week We're going to have to probably
Speaker 2: do a C section and take them both out at
Speaker 2: the same time, and so one's going to be a
Speaker 2: little pretty.
Speaker 3: Wow, women's bodies are incredible. Is it crazy? That's sick.
Speaker 3: I know, it's really nuts. So would they be identical
Speaker 3: or no?
Speaker 2: No, So, fraternal twins are two separate eggs in your body,
Speaker 2: And identical twin is when one egg is fertilized and
Speaker 2: then it splits into two eggs.
Speaker 3: So two separate sacks.
Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, fraternal twins can be like that can also
Speaker 2: be like a genetic normally because sometimes women like so,
Speaker 2: fraternal twins actually run in my family. So you can
Speaker 2: have a tendency to drop more than one egg when
Speaker 2: you opulate, so that can lead to fraternal twins. But
Speaker 2: an identical twin is kind of like a just a
Speaker 2: by chance kind of like one egg splits into two
Speaker 2: and that is just a by chance thing, So you
Speaker 2: can't like be genetically predispositioned to have Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: you know, like kind of you get them both out
Speaker 2: at the same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, done you. But also easing twins at.
Speaker 2: The same time they're breastfeeding both. But then they're also
Speaker 2: like they're also like they like, you know, come up together.
Speaker 3: Which besties, bestie for your kid for life? Yeah, which
Speaker 3: is cool, easy pasy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one time, done, but not always. Like my aunt
Speaker 2: and uncle were fraternal twins and they did not get along.
Speaker 3: I mean that makes sense. Me and my sister don't
Speaker 3: get along.
Speaker 2: But identical twins are different because they're like literally the
Speaker 2: same genetic makeup.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and then there's like that twin teleputhy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're literally like the same person.
Speaker 3: Insane. It's so crazy insane.
Speaker 2: They've done like weird studies where they'll separate twins at birth,
Speaker 2: or twins that are separated at birth will have like
Speaker 2: like the same toothpaste, like crazy shit.
Speaker 4: I will be like sometimes on like TikTok and I'll
Speaker 4: get stuck in like those weird like video informational videos
Speaker 4: about twins, and I'm like, how.
Speaker 3: Did I get here?
Speaker 2: Do they have like identical twin like conventions?
Speaker 4: They have to, Yeah, you can like conventions for things
Speaker 4: with people the same names. There's got to be You've
Speaker 4: never seen that.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I was at an event and They're like, Oh, you're
Speaker 4: coming to the Ryan Convention next week, and I was like, no,
Speaker 4: because my real name is not Ryan. And two that's
Speaker 4: the thing, there's a Ryan convention. Does a Ryan convention
Speaker 4: for people with the name Ryan? So what do you
Speaker 4: do there?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I really what what I guess literally
Speaker 2: what happens at a Ryan convention?
Speaker 3: I go? Next year?
Speaker 2: You should go, and you should report back to us.
Speaker 3: Okay, we could do like a live live stream at
Speaker 3: the right.
Speaker 2: Yes, it will be the most boring live stream in
Speaker 2: the world, but I'm still curious.
Speaker 3: I'll be on it though, so it'll be a little
Speaker 3: bit interesting.
Speaker 2: True, that's true. You'll you will spice up the Ryan invention.
Speaker 2: But then it'll come out to your name's not really
Speaker 2: Ryan and they're like, oh, and then you will be.
Speaker 3: Let me see your ID.
Speaker 4: I'll be like no, looking up on Google as dot count.
Speaker 2: Wow, we really are going off on a tangent.
Speaker 3: I told you I'm the worst.
Speaker 4: I'm literally the worst unmedicated ADHD rain right here at
Speaker 4: its finest.
Speaker 3: Don't know what to tell you. Do you have ADHD? Absolutely? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Have I ever taken a test for it? No? Should
Speaker 3: I be medicated. Yes, will I know, why won't you?
Speaker 4: Because I know people that are on like adderall and
Speaker 4: stuff and they say that they can't sleep at night.
Speaker 3: I love my sleep. Do not ever take my sleep
Speaker 3: away from me.
Speaker 4: I rather have like mush brain and not know what
Speaker 4: the fuck's going on than not be able to sleep night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need my sleep.
Speaker 2: How do you keep your like mental health working in
Speaker 2: this industry? Because this is the g hard okay.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent of the gym. I also finally, like
Speaker 4: at twenty six, found a hobby outside of porn. I
Speaker 4: felt like porn was like my hobby for the longest time.
Speaker 4: Like I was trying other things. I was like painting
Speaker 4: and pottery, and I was like, I need a hobby.
Speaker 4: Hated everything. New boyfriend introduced me to golf.
Speaker 3: Golf, golf. I'm a golfing girl. Now weird. I you know,
Speaker 3: I can see that. I can see that.
Speaker 4: I love it. You're outside, You're getting your steps in,
Speaker 4: You're walking all day long. You are walking that course
Speaker 4: like it's just seven miles a day, so much fun.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Do you go to the country club afterwards and like
Speaker 2: drink like whiskey on the rocks?
Speaker 4: I wish that'd be cool, But I like don't like
Speaker 4: the taste of alcohol. I like tequila when it's mixed
Speaker 4: with a lot of like sweeteners.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: Like I can't drink alcohol straight. I don't have enough
Speaker 4: hair on my chest. I feel like to be like
Speaker 4: manly enough.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you could have a something else.
Speaker 3: I have sugary drink. For some reason.
Speaker 2: I always think that, like people who golf drink a lot.
Speaker 3: They do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do it one hundred percent. Like anytime I've
Speaker 4: been to like a country club, like a legit country club,
Speaker 4: I'll walk inside and like there's like the og guys
Speaker 4: that have their name on the back of the chairs.
Speaker 4: It's like they're here since eight am to like eight pm,
Speaker 4: just sip in.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you guys, do your thing. You're retired,
Speaker 3: live your life. Yeah, I aspire for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you want to do when you retire?
Speaker 2: What are your like life goals?
Speaker 3: After born?
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have a family, we know that much.
Speaker 3: I feel like they always change. Okay, for sure have
Speaker 3: a family.
Speaker 4: I always think about living in a tropical place with
Speaker 4: no WiFi, no self service, literally just living off the land.
Speaker 4: But it has to be warm, but I also have
Speaker 4: to have ac so like it's a fantasy for sure,
Speaker 4: Like it wouldn't probably ever work, but just living somewhere
Speaker 4: tropical that I never have to think of social media again.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about social media?
Speaker 4: It's brain rot at its finest. It rots your brain
Speaker 4: and it's so detrimental to your mental health. And I'm
Speaker 4: always on it, always on it, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, what is it?
Speaker 4: That's why I like golf. The phone stays in the
Speaker 4: car for four hours, don't look at it?
Speaker 3: So good?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you have to be on social
Speaker 2: media because if your job.
Speaker 4: Have to stay relevant. Yeah, you have to know the trends. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you have to know the trending sound. Yeah, you have
Speaker 4: to make a video for this. You have to repost this.
Speaker 4: This scene's not going to do good if you don't
Speaker 4: promote it xyz. Yeah, so yeah, you have to be
Speaker 4: on social media.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's that's true. But I love it. I do
Speaker 3: love it for what it is now, but I won't
Speaker 3: be able to do it forever. Yeah, there's no way, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no way.
Speaker 2: We touched on this like briefly earlier. Do you think
Speaker 2: that how old.
Speaker 3: Are you and you got into porn nineteen twenty.
Speaker 2: What do you think is a good age? Do you
Speaker 2: think that that was a good age? Like, what's your
Speaker 2: You know, some people think eighteen's too young, some people
Speaker 2: think honest, anyone, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4: I felt the most put together up here around like
Speaker 4: twenty four, twenty three, twenty four. I was a yes
Speaker 4: man in the beginning, okay, And I feel like not
Speaker 4: that I was doing things that I didn't want to do,
Speaker 4: but I did things that I probably didn't have to do.
Speaker 3: Because I was just like, yeah, yeah, i'll do it.
Speaker 3: I'll do it. I'll do it, like i'll do it.
Speaker 4: Where now I'm like, oh, I don't like that person
Speaker 4: for what they've done.
Speaker 3: To other people. I'm not going to work with them.
Speaker 4: But it took to like twenty three twenty four to
Speaker 4: really like have a voice and be able to like
Speaker 4: know my boundaries. Actually that's it, knowing my boundaries.
Speaker 3: I feel like at nineteen twenty twenty one, you don't
Speaker 3: know what a boundary. I mean, you know your boundaries,
Speaker 3: but like it's hard to voice them, so hard to.
Speaker 4: Voice that where over time you're like, yeah, no, I
Speaker 4: don't want to do that. That's the boundary that I'm
Speaker 4: not going to cross. So I'd say like twenty four
Speaker 4: to twenty five of getting into the industry wouldn't be
Speaker 4: a bad idea, but you know, teen porn cells.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also hard though too, because it's like, if
Speaker 2: we as a society decide that eighteen is an adult,
Speaker 2: then that's what it is. Well that it can't be
Speaker 2: an adult for like these things, but not an adult
Speaker 2: for porn. Like it's like that's the line, right, If
Speaker 2: that's the line that we draw, then that's the line
Speaker 2: that we draw. If we decide to push it to
Speaker 2: twenty one, then it's got to be twenty one for everything,
Speaker 2: for the military, for you know, like getting a mortgage
Speaker 2: on a house, for you know, all those things, like
Speaker 2: all those huge because it's all these other huge decisions
Speaker 2: that you can make at eighteen that can affect the
Speaker 2: rest of your life, not just porn. So like, you know,
Speaker 2: we have to decide, like is eighteen an adult? And
Speaker 2: if eighteen is an adult, then it's an adult.
Speaker 4: You can only shoot girl girl until you're until you're
Speaker 4: twenty four, and then you can.
Speaker 2: Decide, yeah, what get me crazy days on set? Like
Speaker 2: crazy set stories.
Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes there's so many that you start
Speaker 4: to go like numb to it and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: just another day on the job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is what it is. When people ask me
Speaker 2: that question, I'm always I always draw a blank, but like,
Speaker 2: we know, there's so many. Yeah, when I'll be on
Speaker 2: set and like somebody that I've worked with a lot
Speaker 2: on a bunch of sets, like a cast member like
Speaker 2: Sean Rivera or something, He'll be like he'll bring something
Speaker 2: up and I'll be like, oh my god, that day
Speaker 2: is so insane. And then I'll have that memory and
Speaker 2: I'll be like, I got to remember that next time
Speaker 2: someone asks me about a crazy day on set.
Speaker 3: And then of course I forget.
Speaker 4: No, I'm flinking. I know there's gonna be something crazy
Speaker 4: as soon as the end, and I'll.
Speaker 2: Be like, wait, you'll wake up at three am and
Speaker 2: you'll be like, oh, text you now, I remember, I
Speaker 2: have it?
Speaker 3: Can we add it in at the end, just like
Speaker 3: a prompt? Okay, how about this?
Speaker 2: We'll close up with this question because this is a
Speaker 2: question that we get a lot from our listeners.
Speaker 3: Does penis size matter? No, it matters on what hole?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, So can you elaborate?
Speaker 4: Yes, So if you're putting it in my asshole, I
Speaker 4: want it to be long and skinny, not too grothy.
Speaker 4: And if you have a big head, prepare to plunge
Speaker 4: shit out of there, quite literally, because I feel like
Speaker 4: when you have a big head with anal it really
Speaker 4: just gets things moving.
Speaker 3: It's like a suction, you know, and.
Speaker 4: Then it really is it gets shit going. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: think it's a crazy story. I shpit on somebody on accident. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean that, Xander, I love you. I feel like
Speaker 4: that happens to everybody.
Speaker 3: I was on my period, I had period poops. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know that.
Speaker 4: And it was an animal scene and I was like, so,
Speaker 4: I guess that's a crazy story. Not really, but it's
Speaker 4: such another day on set for us, I know.
Speaker 2: Literally, just like everyone who's if you've been born long enough,
Speaker 2: like yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe you've done a Yeah.
Speaker 4: If you're going into my vagina, I like girth. I
Speaker 4: don't like length because my cervix doesn't want punched.
Speaker 3: It wants to be filled.
Speaker 2: Okay, not pounded. So what's like a good length for you.
Speaker 3: In the puss? Yeah?
Speaker 4: About six Okay in the butt, it'll take whatever and
Speaker 4: then in my throat.
Speaker 3: I really like a down curve because then you can
Speaker 3: deep throat. Oh so really, Yeah, you're a picky.
Speaker 2: You want a different you want a different dick for
Speaker 2: every hole.
Speaker 4: Like my gang bang is gonna be perfect because I'll
Speaker 4: be able to like nitpick, I'll be like, you're only
Speaker 4: going in my throat, you're only going.
Speaker 3: In my ass, and you're only going in my pussy. Wow,
Speaker 3: no rotation here? Wow? Okay.
Speaker 2: So if you so like six inches is a good
Speaker 2: overall size, yes, let's say, like boyfriend Penis, you're probably
Speaker 2: mostly having vaginal sex.
Speaker 4: No, he likes my butt too, oh okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: he likes to empty himself in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, finish there. It's safe place to be, safe place,
Speaker 2: you know, Yes, nowhere for it to get for us. Yes,
Speaker 2: not ready for children yet yet? No, not yet, not yet? No, okay,
Speaker 2: living my best life right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can't golf.
Speaker 2: So if a guy is smaller than six inches, like,
Speaker 2: how would that be for you? Like?
Speaker 3: Would you be okay with that?
Speaker 4: If it's still girthy, I'll still want it, Okay, But
Speaker 4: if it's not girthy and it's less than six inches.
Speaker 3: I'd have to be in the mood. Are you gonna
Speaker 3: eat my pussy first? You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like are you gonna put in the work for
Speaker 4: where you're lacking? If you're gonna put in like the
Speaker 4: work for where you're lacking, then yeah, I'll still fuck it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So there's there's ways that guys can be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make up for it, like if you're
Speaker 4: going to show up with like a five inch stck
Speaker 4: or less and you're not gonna go down on me first,
Speaker 4: like I'm not.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so guys can like they can make up
Speaker 2: for it's always cause it's never a lost cause.
Speaker 4: Like if you're gonna make out with me and eat
Speaker 4: my pussy for thirty minutes before, yeah.
Speaker 3: I still have sex with you. Okay.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to discriminate. Okay, I'll let you know though,
Speaker 4: if you don't make me come.
Speaker 2: That's a woman who knows what she wants with a
Speaker 2: fully developed front. Well, Ryan, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: coming on.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: We have a couple of questions for you from my
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we got our head over there. In the meantime,
Speaker 2: can you tell everybody else where they can find you online?
Speaker 3: Please? Yes?
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Speaker 3: I can tell.
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Speaker 3: And I was like no, let me live.
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Speaker 2: much for joining us, and I will see you next week.