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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank what Afternoon Pleasure Bring with You? Is it is

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<v Speaker 2>every Sunday, Chris Merrill I AM six forty. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hi, Kayla, Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris, Hey girl, living the dream over here?

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<v Speaker 2>How about you listen I Normally when you work remotely,

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<v Speaker 2>which you did last week, indeed, yeah, you mail it in,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would say that this time around it was

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<v Speaker 2>more like a I mean, you didn't really mail it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost like an express mail that you did.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a little It's like you stepped it up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's so funny you say that, because literally I

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<v Speaker 4>was working remote at the bar the entire time. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just like, oh my god, I know I'm slacking and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not really Once it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Better than usual.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So I should always drink espresso Martiniz when I worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yeah, you should do that when you're in studio. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, of course you should. So anyway, what's someplace

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<v Speaker 2>you would never go back to visit? That's to talk

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<v Speaker 2>you know, listen and see if we think your you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your ramblings are worth playing on the air. Sometimes they air,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes we just delete you. Uh So, I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>NBC four, right and or NBCL what whatever you wanna

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<v Speaker 2>call it, and I was watching this interview and it

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<v Speaker 2>it struck me as interesting, first of all, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about refineries closing and gas prices going up and

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. But along with that, they were interviewing

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Gibson, who's an assembly member from Long Beach area, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I just noticed Democrats in California are starting to

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<v Speaker 2>sound an awful lot like Republicans. Listen to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>some of this interview and see if you're hearing some

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<v Speaker 2>of what I heard. All right, So here's a again

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<v Speaker 2>Cony Nolan interest that was it's an exciting swosh there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're saying harrying.

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<v Speaker 6>This past week in the state capitol, as members of

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<v Speaker 6>the California Legislature listened to the head of the California

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<v Speaker 6>Air Resources Ward the Energy Commission, about the closure of

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<v Speaker 6>two refineries in California next year, one in southern California

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<v Speaker 6>and Carson another in the San Francisco Bay area. Those

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<v Speaker 6>refineries themselves represent about twenty percent of the fuel that

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<v Speaker 6>is used in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so we have to they're closing down. They

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<v Speaker 2>say it's our fault, and so we better do a

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<v Speaker 2>meeting everybody. We're going to do a big gathering so

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<v Speaker 2>we can all talk about this thing that is happening

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<v Speaker 2>that we're not going to do anything about.

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<v Speaker 6>Some concerns are whether or not that's going to increase

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<v Speaker 6>the cost of the pump or yes, or increase the

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<v Speaker 6>amount of fuel that's actually imported to the ports of

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<v Speaker 6>Long Beach and Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, on both accounts. Yes it will and yes it will.

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<v Speaker 6>Assembly Meumber Mike Gibson is a Democrat from Guardina. He

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<v Speaker 6>chairs the Assembly Taxation and Revenue Committee. Assemblyman, thanks for

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<v Speaker 6>taking the time. So I believe that Phillips sixty six

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<v Speaker 6>refineries in your day district. If it's not, it's close

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<v Speaker 6>to your district. Are you are you glad to see

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<v Speaker 6>them closing this facility?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you glad to see them closing this facility? He's

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<v Speaker 2>got one of two ways to go here. One is, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to make California smug free, and the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to do that is to buy reducing our blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, or you can go no, this sucks, and

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<v Speaker 2>guess which one he did.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not glad to see them close, all right.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm very concerned with Phillips sixty six closing, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>adjacent to my district. It's literally fifty feet away from

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<v Speaker 7>my district. But the jobs that it holds, the individuals

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<v Speaker 7>that rely every day on going to that place, to

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<v Speaker 7>that refinery working each and every day, those individuals live

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<v Speaker 7>in my district. They shop in my district to add

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<v Speaker 7>to the economy in my district. This is a tremendous

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<v Speaker 7>loss to my district. So I'm very concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, So we're worried about the jobs. We're worried

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<v Speaker 2>about what that's going to do in the district. This

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<v Speaker 2>is look at, families will be impacted. My god, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe this closure is terrible.

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<v Speaker 7>With Phillip sixty six closing its doors, I've sat down

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<v Speaker 7>with them and try to do everything that I can

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<v Speaker 7>to convince them to remain here in Southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>In California as a.

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<v Speaker 7>Whole, and they have said that they cannot do business

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<v Speaker 7>in the state of California, right, and why is that?

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<v Speaker 6>Expand on that for a moment because from.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job Cony, Conny Nolan asking the right follow.

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<v Speaker 6>Up what I've been reading, they said, well, listen, you

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<v Speaker 6>know the market is changing. They are more.

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<v Speaker 1>Evs and California regulations.

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<v Speaker 7>The regulatory agencies have imposed on the refineries in California,

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<v Speaker 7>very stringent regulation that makes it very difficult for them

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<v Speaker 7>to remain in the state of California.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, who's you talk about the Regulatory Commission. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like that would be California Democrats doing that, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the business is closed. And then California Democrats were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe how business unfriendly the state is.

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<v Speaker 7>Hum that means that they won't have the tax they

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<v Speaker 7>won't pay the taxes to the state of California.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh all right, so jobs are going to be lost

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not going to have the taxes coming in

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<v Speaker 2>and the regulation is so stringent that they can't afford

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<v Speaker 2>to do business and they have to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. I mean it sounds like you're listening to a

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<v Speaker 1>Republican talk about everything that's.

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<v Speaker 7>Wrong, and that also means that they won't be able

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<v Speaker 7>to provide the jobs. We should all be concerned by that,

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<v Speaker 7>But also we should be concerned by that the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that if they go down and they leave, then what

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<v Speaker 7>will happen to supply they have.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all of these arguments sound exactly like what

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<v Speaker 2>you would hear from the other side of the aisle,

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<v Speaker 2>don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is evidence that we've reached a tipping point when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to some of the politics in California. Another example,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, be Gavin Newsom. Now, when Newsom starts switching

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<v Speaker 2>his position, we go, all right, he's trying to he's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to moderate a little bit because he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>run for president. So when Newsom comes out and says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we shouldn't have trans athletes, we shouldn't have trans women

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<v Speaker 2>in girls' sports in high school or in college, and

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<v Speaker 2>we go, okay, Well, that sounds like a Republican and

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<v Speaker 2>they know that they're on the losing side of that.

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<v Speaker 2>More on that coming up here in our next segment.

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<v Speaker 2>But we go all right, Newsom is moderating on this

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<v Speaker 2>unpopular opinion. The idea, and you've heard you've heard some

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<v Speaker 2>of the predictions that gas could go up to what

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<v Speaker 2>nine dollars a gallon, And then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, ah, this is terrible. I can't believe regulation. This

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<v Speaker 1>is out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Control, and this is gonna cost us jobs, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be more importing, and this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>They go on to talk about how from an environmental impact,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have all these different ships coming into the port,

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<v Speaker 2>and the ships are not they're not great as far

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<v Speaker 2>as the environment goes to have all these ships, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just go, Okay, this is one of those instances

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<v Speaker 2>where we're starting to see the Democrats that are going, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we got too far left on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me throw one other thought out there, particular your

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<v Speaker 2>brain a little bit, all right, you can just tossed

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<v Speaker 2>this out. Is this part of the normal cycle though,

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't mean politically speaking. I mean that when

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<v Speaker 2>you are pushing new tech, you've got new tech that

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<v Speaker 2>starts to emerge, and old tech becomes more expensive, which

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<v Speaker 2>causes more people to start using the new tech.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have more evs.

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<v Speaker 2>On the road, in California, of course, was incentivizing EV's,

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<v Speaker 2>pushing for evs, all these different regulations on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the on the gasoline and oil and refineries in and YadA, YadA, YadA,

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<v Speaker 2>And so of course it becomes more expensive, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>been more expensive in California for a long long time,

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<v Speaker 2>more expensive here than any where else in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the country. And of course we also have more evs

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<v Speaker 2>on the road than anywhere else in the country, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it's sort of a snowball effect.

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<v Speaker 1>But wasn't that the point?

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<v Speaker 2>So it feels disingenuous to me to hear the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>coming out and saying, I can't believe that this is

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<v Speaker 2>happening right now? Uh we this is terrible for our economy,

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<v Speaker 2>right But wasn't this the goal? It wasn't the goal

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<v Speaker 2>to get more people away from internal combustion engines and

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<v Speaker 2>toward EV's. And if all of a sudden you've got

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<v Speaker 2>refineries closing and gas prices jump up even higher, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>that mean more people are likely to go to EV's.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I would if all of us. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at that tipping point already where I go. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I think my next car is gonna be an EV.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't want to keep paying for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the gas prices and uh, and I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>a look at the continuing cost of EV's coming down.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll import one from China. I don't know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>a lot cheaper, and then uh, and then that would mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Less demand, right, and you go, oh, les demand means

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<v Speaker 2>that the price is gonna come down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, not if you have to keep importing it.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you've got nine dollars a gallon gasoline, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that going to push more people toward EV's. And if

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<v Speaker 2>more people go toward evs and fewer people are going

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<v Speaker 2>toward gasoline, then the profit isn't there for the gas companies.

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<v Speaker 2>And if the profit isn't there, either they go away,

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<v Speaker 2>which we're seeing part of that's because of the the

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<v Speaker 2>regulation as well, or they have to lower the prices, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one or the other. And there's a certain point

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<v Speaker 2>where they can't lower the prices anymore because then they're

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<v Speaker 2>operating at a loss. They're already saying that they're operating at

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<v Speaker 2>a loss. So if the gas prices go up, that

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<v Speaker 2>means you go, you move, you migrate, toward new tech.

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<v Speaker 1>And this happens all over the place. This is not new.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, anytime we see a technological advance, the old

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<v Speaker 2>way becomes more expensive, then new way becomes more efficient.

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<v Speaker 2>So if this was the point all along, then you

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<v Speaker 2>got to own it. But politicians don't do that because

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<v Speaker 2>they know it's incredibly unpopular. In the early stages, during

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<v Speaker 2>the growing pains, so the Democrats starting to sound like Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, you wanted to ban gasoline, landscaping tools,

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to incentivize evs, you wanted to add more

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<v Speaker 2>gas taxes onto everything. You wanted to drive the price

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<v Speaker 2>up at the pump. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>businesses go all right, we can't and you go, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe. Who could have you ever seen this coming?

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<v Speaker 1>Well you did? That was your point all along. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>end of tyrad. All right, we'll continue.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no business like show business.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris merriland I.

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<v Speaker 2>Am six forty more stimulating talk. Uh caylo, can I

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<v Speaker 3>One's not nice? Well for you, thanks for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>See so Caylea sends me these things so that I

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<v Speaker 8>All right, super producer, Kayla, great job. Oh love your

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<v Speaker 8>would become. Keeping Chris Merrow on the air. Please remove

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this? All? This is about you too, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 9>Kayla needs to chill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what, Chris? Without you, there is no me.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know what that listener's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh is the other one about our talkback question?

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<v Speaker 1>What is someplace you never go back?

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<v Speaker 3>It's about drilling more for in California?

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<v Speaker 2>Questions today is what is someplace that you would never

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<v Speaker 1>Curious about what that is. I've got a few places

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<v Speaker 10>We need to start drilling more for oil in California.

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<v Speaker 10>Only twenty five percent of the crude oil that goes

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<v Speaker 1>If it were, we'd figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know you're gonna say, well, we've got regulations

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not drilling new wells either because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna drop prices. They're gonna, yeah, they're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 2>you can keep making that argument, but they're still that drilling.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not gonna happen. If they were, they'd be

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<v Speaker 2>has dropped way off for that reason. So it's just

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<v Speaker 2>again and it becomes lucrative, then then we can have

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation. But right now there is no drill, baby, drill.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's a common refrain. We just need to

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<v Speaker 2>drill more wells. Okay, Well, if if you would have

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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna do it. If oil is at sixty five

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<v Speaker 2>And in California, of course, and again to your point

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<v Speaker 2>it would have to be even higher than that in

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that the Democrats are starting to sound

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<v Speaker 2>shutting down. And you may have heard about Governor Batman

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<v Speaker 1>It's not there, Kayla, it's not there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what are we going to stop trans women from doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well playing in women's sports? Yeah? Yeah, that's big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to find my Batman drop.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just didn't come up the next time.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, there's this transgender athlete, and of course this

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<v Speaker 2>is the kind of thing that Fox News takes off

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, can you believe this person that's different

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say, when it comes to trans writes,

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<v Speaker 2>because if there is a if there is an unfair advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about the unfair advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>These other arguments about my kids aren't safe from the

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just that it just doesn't make any sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me when you say, oh, do you want boys

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<v Speaker 2>going into the girl's bathroom? And I just go, what's

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Like there's going to be sexual results in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the only thing that's stopping a boy from going

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. So I'm just not not buying a lot

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think that if you have an unfair

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<v Speaker 2>advantage on the field, that that is not that is

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<v Speaker 2>not a fair competition, right. I mean, we're not talking

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<v Speaker 2>about somebody who was simply born genetically the superior. Like

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<v Speaker 2>and so if you've got somebody that is leveraging a difference,

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<v Speaker 2>trans athlete did end up winning some medals. In the

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<v Speaker 11>A transgender athlete from Euroupa Valley took home her first

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<v Speaker 11>gold in the girls high jump at the California High

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<v Speaker 11>School Track and Field Championship today. Aby Hernandez shares her

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<v Speaker 11>first place win with two other athletes who also cleared

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so to be clear, two other girls born female

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<v Speaker 11>Hernandez also placed second in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Long jump, so that means somebody else beat her.

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<v Speaker 11>Her participation has drawn national attention, sparking controversy. President Trumpy

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<v Speaker 11>and threatened to pull federal funding from the state. Earlier

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<v Speaker 11>this week, the California Interscholastic Federation changed its policy. It

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<v Speaker 11>allowed an additional student to compete and even metal in

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<v Speaker 11>the competition today, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right to tell you get her mother's is upset about it.

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<v Speaker 2>The law makers, the law breakers, and the times that

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<v Speaker 2>there ought to be a law.

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<v Speaker 1>It's la law. Next.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Merril CAF I AM six forty. We're live everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 2>forty on demand. Always an honor spending time with you,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Merrill KFI AM six forty on demand anytime in

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we just talked about the transgender athlete. Look, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even care where you fall in the transgender athlete debate.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to feel like CIF has added another place.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a transgender athlete competing in your particular event,

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<v Speaker 2>then they've added another place so that you know no

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<v Speaker 2>girls are being denied. You can't say, oh, they stole

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<v Speaker 2>my spot at on the metal stand whatever. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>there's transgender athletes. So CIF is trying to find some

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<v Speaker 2>What frustrates me is a bunch of people at the

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That bothers me more than the kid being out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And imagine if you are the parent of a girl

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<v Speaker 2>and people aren't cheering on your kid.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not hollering screaming, come on, one more you can

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, they're screaming at the person that you're competing against

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to tear her down Like that really bothers

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<v Speaker 2>me for everybody involved. That you got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen year olds dealing with adults that are just bullying

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<v Speaker 2>one of the athletes. Whether you agree or disagree that

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<v Speaker 2>the athletes should or shouldn't be there, it's a sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old kid, all right. Talkback as always, we love that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, just click on

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've got a question from the talkback as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll relate to our Eli Law segment here in

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Chris, I don't always agree with your politics, but

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<v Speaker 1>you are spot on. That's right. In the last segment,

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<v Speaker 1>spot on, Thank you? Yes, right, you hear that, Kayla? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was one of our high listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he was totally sober. Oh, okay, yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>totally sober.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you didn't make sense in the last segment

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<v Speaker 4>to say I disagree with be a lie, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>You're sweet, Thank you so much. All right, So all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna we're gonna let you hang on for another show.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>The lawmakers, the lawbreakers, and the times that there ought

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<v Speaker 2>where's someplace that you would never go back to visit?

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<v Speaker 2>And I asked that because there was a big baseball

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<v Speaker 1>It's Sam Quentin.

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<v Speaker 12>It's America's oldest pastime being played in one of its

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<v Speaker 12>oldest prisons. But something new is brewing at San Quentin.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing I went through my mind was is

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<v Speaker 7>So then when they said it was on the schedule

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<v Speaker 12>In the one hundred and twenty three year history of

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<v Speaker 12>game pitting current inmates against former inmates.

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<v Speaker 13>One.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm all for the activities give inmates. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>purpose drives something to do. I think sports is incredibly helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>I do I think the spirit of competition. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the sports allows us to get some of our aggression out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that sports gives us a focus. There are

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<v Speaker 2>multitude of studies to talk about the benefits of sports,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm on board with all of those. I love sports.

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<v Speaker 2>That said, I don't think I would want to go

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<v Speaker 2>back inside those walls ever. If I got if I

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<v Speaker 2>got sent to San Quentin and i got out and

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm out on the street and I'm doing I'm

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<v Speaker 2>keeping my nose clean. Because remember, these are these are

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<v Speaker 2>these are former inmates. These are not people who are

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<v Speaker 2>lifelong criminals who have who are a recidivism stat These

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<v Speaker 2>are people who have gotten out and now they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to They're trying to make their way, and then they go, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to come back and play an alumni

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<v Speaker 2>baseball game back inside the walls. No, no, I do not,

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<v Speaker 2>noop uh full disclosure. Gotten a little trouble when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a young man, and as a result, I found

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<v Speaker 2>myself on the wrong side of those bars for a

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<v Speaker 2>short period of time, very short period of time. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>recommend it. Anybody that's ever had a little brush with

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<v Speaker 2>the law. I think most of us can agree, it's

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<v Speaker 2>no fun.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had a little brush with the law when

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<v Speaker 2>I was nineteen years old, and I gotta tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going back. I'm not going back in any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a celebratory manner. I'm not going back at

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<v Speaker 2>all to say, Wow, these are the good old days.

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<v Speaker 1>Never. Never.

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<v Speaker 2>So our talk back question, what is someplace that you

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<v Speaker 2>would never go back to visit? Now, I was never

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<v Speaker 2>in I was never in prison, by the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>just Little County lock up for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all all right. But here's what I would I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, let's uh, let's just stay away from there altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had never had any desire to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>see anybody that's that's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Never.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not do it ever. So our talk about question,

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<v Speaker 2>what is someplace you would never go back to visit?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, just click that

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<v Speaker 2>talk back What is someplace that you would never go

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<v Speaker 2>back to visit? Al Right? My daughter is Actually it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter is super liberal, super liberal, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a son who's kind of a what what is the

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<v Speaker 2>new roul? You help me out here? And I'm asking

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<v Speaker 2>you because you're a you're a young man. Sure you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been called that in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you? What do we call the new crop of

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<v Speaker 1>the bro Conservatives? Is there? Do we have a name

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<v Speaker 1>for that?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think there's a name yet, but it does

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<v Speaker 5>need a name, because it does.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the Manisphere, but it's like the the the

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<v Speaker 2>young Trump supporting, high testosterone driven conservatives.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got I got one son that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>leaning in that direction. And it's funny because he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, man, I'm moving to Texas when I get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance, I'm moving to Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>He just can't wait to go to Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Rogan's baby Rogan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kinda yes, the the yeah, I guess so does Rogan.

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<v Speaker 2>People who follow Rogan have a name, the Rogans, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are they early balding? Okay, So my daughter is like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you move to Texas, have fun. I'm never coming

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<v Speaker 2>to see you, right, And then my son, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, well, I'm not going to California to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna go to California.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate California because California's a bunch of liberals so

501
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<v Speaker 2>it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>To listen to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Texas is a fine place, California is a

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<v Speaker 2>great place, and it just it's funny here people be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I would never visit there.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, that's funny because your question, talk about question, I

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<v Speaker 9>would have said Texas, but I love Deep Elm. It's

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<v Speaker 9>so cool there, so I can't say I don't like Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>For those unfamiliar, that's kind of the that was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the old black area of Dallas, right, correct, That's

511
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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of the other side of the tracks when

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<v Speaker 2>they when they did the redlining through Texas and Deep

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<v Speaker 2>Elam has an incredible amount of history.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's cool area. It's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, great bars, great food, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Supervised it's cool, yeah, supervibe. What is someplace you would

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<v Speaker 2>never go back to visit? I'd love to hear your

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<v Speaker 2>quite your answer on the talkback?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? And is it possible we've got a killer about

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<v Speaker 1>it to be on the loose? That is next.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Merril CAFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere in

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<v Speaker 2>the iHeart Radio app tay it afternoon, Chris Merril can'f

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<v Speaker 2>I AM six forty more stimulating talk, non demand anytime

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, we've got a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of really intelligent people leaving us some talkbacks today.

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<v Speaker 1>So excited about that. Uh you want to hear some

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<v Speaker 1>of these? Callia, man, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see. Oh, hang on here, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>I got this. Oh maybe I did not? Oh yesda

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, here we go yourself. Yeah, there we go,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the guy. Okay, here we go. So we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the transathlete, and then I was telling a

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<v Speaker 2>story about my kids, and in fact, didn't I say

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<v Speaker 2>something about the transathlete. Imagine if you've got a little

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<v Speaker 2>girl and she's fought her whole life, and then she's

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<v Speaker 2>at the state finals, but she's running against a transathlete,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's screaming at the transathlete instead of cheering your

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<v Speaker 2>kid on.

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<v Speaker 1>And how horrible that must be for the sixteen year old.

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<v Speaker 3>You said that ever beat him?

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<v Speaker 1>I say, Okay, they're just making sure I said that. Okay, Yeah, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a bum. I don't think you have kids.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't think you understand what it takes for our

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<v Speaker 14>daughters to be out there and put the self forward

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<v Speaker 14>and then to be shut down by a boy playing

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<v Speaker 14>in their game yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Good?

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa glad he was paying close attention to everything I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun guy, fun guy, fun guy.

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<v Speaker 15>I never thought I was see this day coming way.

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<v Speaker 15>I grew with you on one thing. I think you

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<v Speaker 15>right on, you spot on about this trans athlete. You'll

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<v Speaker 15>take on it and everything. I think you said. Need

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<v Speaker 15>to figure it out that way, sixteen year olds don't

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<v Speaker 15>have to be screamed at by some crazy parents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, all right, thank you very much. Seem so

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<v Speaker 1>I have to get all the swear words out though,

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<v Speaker 1>waste a lot of my time. Grace.

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<v Speaker 15>I am never going in bed to Flint, Michigan. Oh

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<v Speaker 15>I drunk that Tracey content.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this was a This was a response to our question.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually did ask a questions and they have to

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<v Speaker 2>do with trans athletes. Where are you never going back

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<v Speaker 2>to visit?

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<v Speaker 1>Grace?

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<v Speaker 15>I am never going in bed to Flint, Michigan. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>I drunk that trace you contaminated?

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<v Speaker 8>What?

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<v Speaker 15>And I'm still alive. I'm still alive, So why the

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<v Speaker 15>hell will I go back over there?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, man, I'm not okay. Good plan now?

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<v Speaker 2>Never never, you know, the closest I've been to foot

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<v Speaker 2>is driving through it couldn't get out faster.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dump. Flint is a dump. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>else do we have here? One more?

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<v Speaker 16>Maybe there were a lot of adults yelling at it.

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<v Speaker 16>Sixteen year old kid who made an adult decision. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 16>to have a lot at off of me. Uh huh,

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<v Speaker 16>So what's the problem?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, I got you.

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<v Speaker 2>So we can scream at the kid because the kid

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<v Speaker 2>did it, made a life changing decision. Okay, that makes

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<v Speaker 2>perfect sense. Any other kids that we want to scream

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<v Speaker 2>at that to do things that they Okay, all right, great,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do anymore. Right now, let's save

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<v Speaker 2>Kill has got more for me. Let's just save these

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<v Speaker 2>for the next segment. Killer, I gotta talk about I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta talk about this, this Manson follower who gets paroled again,

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<v Speaker 2>parole recommendation again.

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<v Speaker 13>It's impossible for me to be done with these because

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<v Speaker 13>public safety is at risk.

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<v Speaker 17>Debra Tait is the sister of Sharon Tate, who was

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<v Speaker 17>eight and a half months pregnant when she was murdered

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<v Speaker 17>in nineteen sixty nine inside her home in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 17>by members of the Manson family.

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<v Speaker 13>I should have a nephew that I never got to experience.

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<v Speaker 17>Deborah has attended all fifteen parole hearings for Patricia Krenwinkle,

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<v Speaker 17>who was a main actor in the murders of Tate

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<v Speaker 17>and four other people that night in the same home.

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<v Speaker 17>She spoke at the hearing today strongly opposing parole. This

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<v Speaker 17>interview is from twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this skip ahead. I don't care. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what she thinks today.

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<v Speaker 17>Enwinkle also participated in another Manson family killing rampage the

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<v Speaker 17>very next night, stabbing Leno and Rosemary LaBianca to death

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<v Speaker 17>inside their Los Angeles home. On Fredwinkle used a fork

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<v Speaker 17>to carve the word war in the husband's stomach, and

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<v Speaker 17>then used the victim's blood to write he Helter skelter

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<v Speaker 17>on a refrigerator door. The couple's nephew spoke today saying

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<v Speaker 17>the murder weapon was the carving fork for our Christmas turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 17>She is a serial murderer. She should have had the

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<v Speaker 17>death penalty. All of the Manson murderers were in fact

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<v Speaker 17>given the death penalty, but in nineteen seventy two, the

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<v Speaker 17>California Supreme Court converted their sentences to life in prison.

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<v Speaker 17>Charles Manson.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, Wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>He makes him sound like the California Supreme Court was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't deserve it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, hang on.

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<v Speaker 2>A little context is that we nationally said no death penalty,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it came back and so everybody that was

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<v Speaker 2>on death row had their sentences converted. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>like the California Supreme Court's like, you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>think this is so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hang on here.

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<v Speaker 17>Charles Manson died behind bars in twenty seventeen. One of

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<v Speaker 17>the killers, Leslie Van Howden, is now out on parole.

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<v Speaker 17>Cranwinkle declined to testify at today's hearing. You believe, but

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<v Speaker 17>she spoke to the La Times in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 12>I guess when I started thinking with myself, mostly the

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<v Speaker 12>word I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care, what she said. Ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 17>This afternoon, parole commissioners granted crean Winkle's parole, saying, at

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<v Speaker 17>age seventy seven, she no longer poses a risk to society.

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<v Speaker 17>Her release still has to be approved by the full

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<v Speaker 17>Parole Board, and then the final decision will go to

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<v Speaker 17>the Governor's office, which could take several months. David Godferdson,

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<v Speaker 17>CBS eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, David. I appreciate it, CBS eight in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The governor in the past has actually said no, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not getting parole. He would be an absolute moron. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that in the in the most literal sense,

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<v Speaker 2>because it would be wildly foolish for a guy with

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<v Speaker 2>political ambition to do something so incredibly unpopular. He already

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<v Speaker 2>went out on a limb on the whole Menendez thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't even go out and know him on that.

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<v Speaker 2>He just hasn't come back and said, well, Menanda's brothers

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<v Speaker 2>need to stay in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't done that.

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<v Speaker 2>He has done that with some of the Manson family,

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<v Speaker 2>and he needs to continue to say she's not getting out.

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<v Speaker 2>And the deal is this in our justice system in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. Other countries are different. Other countries you

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<v Speaker 2>have maximum sentences of twenty or twenty five years or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right not here. We have a very punitive justice system.

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<v Speaker 2>If you take a life and you're sentenced to life,

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<v Speaker 2>you do life. I don't like what bothers me about

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<v Speaker 2>the current status is that they had the death penalty

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<v Speaker 2>and then the death penalty was turned into life in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not life in prison with a chance of parole

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind. No, these crimes were so egregious and

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<v Speaker 2>so heinous that it's not about whether you're rehabilitated. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about the punishment. And when it comes to crime and punishment,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to stay behind bars. You forfeited your right

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<v Speaker 2>to ever see freedom again when you when you carved

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<v Speaker 2>somebody up and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then did it again the next night.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that wasn't a mistake in time, It's just something

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna pay for.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. You're done. There is no coming back from that. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be shocked if Governor Batman says, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. I mean, he would never be able to

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<v Speaker 2>show his Bruce Wayne looking face around the state again

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<v Speaker 2>if he said, yeah, you can come out. Nope, Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>not while he's got the political ambitions that he has

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just too risky a thing for him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not doing it all right.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is what is someplace you would never go

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<v Speaker 2>back to visit. I had a story in our Crime

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<v Speaker 2>of Punishment segment segment there about the former inmates of

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<v Speaker 2>San Quentin going back to play an alumni baseball game

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<v Speaker 2>against current inmates. You would not catch me going back,

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<v Speaker 2>No way. I would not want to go back behind

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<v Speaker 2>those bars.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to put that chapter behind me. What is

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<v Speaker 2>someplace you would never go back to visit? One gentleman

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<v Speaker 2>said Flint, Michigan, and don't blame him said don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's it?

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<v Speaker 2>You would never go back to visit that? And drugs

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<v Speaker 2>on the campaign trail. I mean, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's next. Chris Merril KFI AM six forty. We're live

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