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Speaker 1: Oh hi, Kayla, Hi.
Speaker 3: Chris, Hey girl, living the dream over here?
Speaker 2: How about you listen I Normally when you work remotely,
Speaker 2: which you did last week, indeed, yeah, you mail it in,
Speaker 2: and I would say that this time around it was
Speaker 2: more like a I mean, you didn't really mail it.
Speaker 2: It was almost like an express mail that you did.
Speaker 2: It was a little It's like you stepped it up
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 4: And that's so funny you say that, because literally I
Speaker 4: was working remote at the bar the entire time. I'm
Speaker 4: just like, oh my god, I know I'm slacking and
Speaker 4: I'm not really Once it was.
Speaker 1: Better than usual.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: So I should always drink espresso Martiniz when I worked.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, you should do that when you're in studio. Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course, of course you should. So anyway, what's someplace
Speaker 2: you would never go back to visit? That's to talk
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Speaker 2: your ramblings are worth playing on the air. Sometimes they air,
Speaker 2: and sometimes we just delete you. Uh So, I'm watching
Speaker 2: NBC four, right and or NBCL what whatever you wanna
Speaker 2: call it, and I was watching this interview and it
Speaker 2: it struck me as interesting, first of all, because they're
Speaker 2: talking about refineries closing and gas prices going up and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But along with that, they were interviewing
Speaker 2: Mike Gibson, who's an assembly member from Long Beach area, right,
Speaker 2: And I just noticed Democrats in California are starting to
Speaker 2: sound an awful lot like Republicans. Listen to listen to
Speaker 2: some of this interview and see if you're hearing some
Speaker 2: of what I heard. All right, So here's a again
Speaker 2: Cony Nolan interest that was it's an exciting swosh there.
Speaker 1: We're saying harrying.
Speaker 6: This past week in the state capitol, as members of
Speaker 6: the California Legislature listened to the head of the California
Speaker 6: Air Resources Ward the Energy Commission, about the closure of
Speaker 6: two refineries in California next year, one in southern California
Speaker 6: and Carson another in the San Francisco Bay area. Those
Speaker 6: refineries themselves represent about twenty percent of the fuel that
Speaker 6: is used in the state.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so we have to they're closing down. They
Speaker 2: say it's our fault, and so we better do a
Speaker 2: meeting everybody. We're going to do a big gathering so
Speaker 2: we can all talk about this thing that is happening
Speaker 2: that we're not going to do anything about.
Speaker 6: Some concerns are whether or not that's going to increase
Speaker 6: the cost of the pump or yes, or increase the
Speaker 6: amount of fuel that's actually imported to the ports of
Speaker 6: Long Beach and Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Yes, on both accounts. Yes it will and yes it will.
Speaker 6: Assembly Meumber Mike Gibson is a Democrat from Guardina. He
Speaker 6: chairs the Assembly Taxation and Revenue Committee. Assemblyman, thanks for
Speaker 6: taking the time. So I believe that Phillips sixty six
Speaker 6: refineries in your day district. If it's not, it's close
Speaker 6: to your district. Are you are you glad to see
Speaker 6: them closing this facility?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Are you glad to see them closing this facility? He's
Speaker 2: got one of two ways to go here. One is, yes,
Speaker 2: we have to make California smug free, and the only
Speaker 2: way to do that is to buy reducing our blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, or you can go no, this sucks, and
Speaker 2: guess which one he did.
Speaker 5: I'm not glad to see them close, all right.
Speaker 7: I'm very concerned with Phillips sixty six closing, and it's
Speaker 7: adjacent to my district. It's literally fifty feet away from
Speaker 7: my district. But the jobs that it holds, the individuals
Speaker 7: that rely every day on going to that place, to
Speaker 7: that refinery working each and every day, those individuals live
Speaker 7: in my district. They shop in my district to add
Speaker 7: to the economy in my district. This is a tremendous
Speaker 7: loss to my district. So I'm very concerned.
Speaker 2: Oh right, So we're worried about the jobs. We're worried
Speaker 2: about what that's going to do in the district. This
Speaker 2: is look at, families will be impacted. My god, I
Speaker 2: can't believe this closure is terrible.
Speaker 7: With Phillip sixty six closing its doors, I've sat down
Speaker 7: with them and try to do everything that I can
Speaker 7: to convince them to remain here in Southern California.
Speaker 1: In California as a.
Speaker 7: Whole, and they have said that they cannot do business
Speaker 7: in the state of California, right, and why is that?
Speaker 6: Expand on that for a moment because from.
Speaker 1: Good job Cony, Conny Nolan asking the right follow.
Speaker 6: Up what I've been reading, they said, well, listen, you
Speaker 6: know the market is changing. They are more.
Speaker 1: Evs and California regulations.
Speaker 7: The regulatory agencies have imposed on the refineries in California,
Speaker 7: very stringent regulation that makes it very difficult for them
Speaker 7: to remain in the state of California.
Speaker 2: Huh, who's you talk about the Regulatory Commission. It seems
Speaker 2: like that would be California Democrats doing that, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: And the business is closed. And then California Democrats were like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can't believe how business unfriendly the state is.
Speaker 7: Hum that means that they won't have the tax they
Speaker 7: won't pay the taxes to the state of California.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, so jobs are going to be lost
Speaker 2: and we're not going to have the taxes coming in
Speaker 2: and the regulation is so stringent that they can't afford
Speaker 2: to do business and they have to leave.
Speaker 1: Huh. I mean it sounds like you're listening to a
Speaker 1: Republican talk about everything that's.
Speaker 7: Wrong, and that also means that they won't be able
Speaker 7: to provide the jobs. We should all be concerned by that,
Speaker 7: But also we should be concerned by that the fact
Speaker 7: that if they go down and they leave, then what
Speaker 7: will happen to supply they have.
Speaker 2: I mean, all of these arguments sound exactly like what
Speaker 2: you would hear from the other side of the aisle,
Speaker 2: don't they.
Speaker 1: Which is.
Speaker 2: Which is evidence that we've reached a tipping point when
Speaker 2: it comes to some of the politics in California. Another example,
Speaker 2: of course, be Gavin Newsom. Now, when Newsom starts switching
Speaker 2: his position, we go, all right, he's trying to he's
Speaker 2: trying to moderate a little bit because he wants to
Speaker 2: run for president. So when Newsom comes out and says, oh,
Speaker 2: we shouldn't have trans athletes, we shouldn't have trans women
Speaker 2: in girls' sports in high school or in college, and
Speaker 2: we go, okay, Well, that sounds like a Republican and
Speaker 2: they know that they're on the losing side of that.
Speaker 2: More on that coming up here in our next segment.
Speaker 2: But we go all right, Newsom is moderating on this
Speaker 2: unpopular opinion. The idea, and you've heard you've heard some
Speaker 2: of the predictions that gas could go up to what
Speaker 2: nine dollars a gallon, And then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you've got Democrats.
Speaker 1: Like, ah, this is terrible. I can't believe regulation. This
Speaker 1: is out of.
Speaker 2: Control, and this is gonna cost us jobs, and this
Speaker 2: is going to be more importing, and this is gonna
Speaker 2: They go on to talk about how from an environmental impact,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have all these different ships coming into the port,
Speaker 2: and the ships are not they're not great as far
Speaker 2: as the environment goes to have all these ships, and
Speaker 2: you just go, Okay, this is one of those instances
Speaker 2: where we're starting to see the Democrats that are going, whoa,
Speaker 2: maybe we got too far left on this one.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Let me throw one other thought out there, particular your
Speaker 2: brain a little bit, all right, you can just tossed
Speaker 2: this out. Is this part of the normal cycle though,
Speaker 2: Now I don't mean politically speaking. I mean that when
Speaker 2: you are pushing new tech, you've got new tech that
Speaker 2: starts to emerge, and old tech becomes more expensive, which
Speaker 2: causes more people to start using the new tech.
Speaker 1: So if you have more evs.
Speaker 2: On the road, in California, of course, was incentivizing EV's,
Speaker 2: pushing for evs, all these different regulations on the on
Speaker 2: the on the gasoline and oil and refineries in and YadA, YadA, YadA,
Speaker 2: And so of course it becomes more expensive, and it's
Speaker 2: been more expensive in California for a long long time,
Speaker 2: more expensive here than any where else in the in
Speaker 2: the country. And of course we also have more evs
Speaker 2: on the road than anywhere else in the country, and
Speaker 2: so it's sort of a snowball effect.
Speaker 1: But wasn't that the point?
Speaker 2: So it feels disingenuous to me to hear the Democrats
Speaker 2: coming out and saying, I can't believe that this is
Speaker 2: happening right now? Uh we this is terrible for our economy,
Speaker 2: right But wasn't this the goal? It wasn't the goal
Speaker 2: to get more people away from internal combustion engines and
Speaker 2: toward EV's. And if all of a sudden you've got
Speaker 2: refineries closing and gas prices jump up even higher, doesn't
Speaker 2: that mean more people are likely to go to EV's.
Speaker 2: I know I would if all of us. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm at that tipping point already where I go. Man,
Speaker 2: I think my next car is gonna be an EV.
Speaker 2: I just I don't want to keep paying for the
Speaker 2: for the gas prices and uh, and I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: a look at the continuing cost of EV's coming down.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll import one from China. I don't know, they're
Speaker 1: a lot cheaper, and then uh, and then that would mean.
Speaker 2: Less demand, right, and you go, oh, les demand means
Speaker 2: that the price is gonna come down.
Speaker 1: Well, not if you have to keep importing it.
Speaker 2: So if you've got nine dollars a gallon gasoline, isn't
Speaker 2: that going to push more people toward EV's. And if
Speaker 2: more people go toward evs and fewer people are going
Speaker 2: toward gasoline, then the profit isn't there for the gas companies.
Speaker 2: And if the profit isn't there, either they go away,
Speaker 2: which we're seeing part of that's because of the the
Speaker 2: regulation as well, or they have to lower the prices, right,
Speaker 2: it's one or the other. And there's a certain point
Speaker 2: where they can't lower the prices anymore because then they're
Speaker 2: operating at a loss. They're already saying that they're operating at
Speaker 2: a loss. So if the gas prices go up, that
Speaker 2: means you go, you move, you migrate, toward new tech.
Speaker 1: And this happens all over the place. This is not new.
Speaker 2: I mean, anytime we see a technological advance, the old
Speaker 2: way becomes more expensive, then new way becomes more efficient.
Speaker 2: So if this was the point all along, then you
Speaker 2: got to own it. But politicians don't do that because
Speaker 2: they know it's incredibly unpopular. In the early stages, during
Speaker 2: the growing pains, so the Democrats starting to sound like Republicans.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you wanted to ban gasoline, landscaping tools,
Speaker 2: you wanted to incentivize evs, you wanted to add more
Speaker 2: gas taxes onto everything. You wanted to drive the price
Speaker 2: up at the pump. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: businesses go all right, we can't and you go, I
Speaker 2: can't believe. Who could have you ever seen this coming?
Speaker 1: Well you did? That was your point all along. All right,
Speaker 1: end of tyrad. All right, we'll continue.
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Speaker 8: All right, super producer, Kayla, great job. Oh love your
Speaker 8: voice than in your program, But you really are jeopardizing
Speaker 8: your career as a potential host, which I wish you
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Speaker 1: What is this? All? This is about you too, isn't it?
Speaker 9: Kayla needs to chill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, Chris? Without you, there is no me.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what that listener's talking about.
Speaker 3: I love you for it, Chris.
Speaker 2: Uh is the other one about our talkback question?
Speaker 1: What is someplace you never go back?
Speaker 3: It's about drilling more for in California?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, right or right? Talkback? I'll play that here
Speaker 1: in a second. Our talkback question.
Speaker 2: I got a story coming up here in about half
Speaker 2: an hour about former inmates of San Quentin going back
Speaker 2: to play a baseball game against current inmates, and so talkback.
Speaker 2: Questions today is what is someplace that you would never
Speaker 2: go back to visit, someplace you would never go back
Speaker 2: to visit.
Speaker 1: Curious about what that is. I've got a few places
Speaker 1: in mind.
Speaker 10: We need to start drilling more for oil in California.
Speaker 10: Only twenty five percent of the crude oil that goes
Speaker 10: to the refineries comes from California. The rest is imported,
Speaker 10: with the fifty percent of it coming from foreign countries,
Speaker 10: small amount coming from Alaska. That drives the price of
Speaker 10: gas line up even higher because we're importing crude oil.
Speaker 10: We need to become oil independent.
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, I get you. California actually has
Speaker 1: a lot of oil. We do have.
Speaker 2: A lot a lot of fossil fuels under our dirt,
Speaker 2: but it's not the money is not there.
Speaker 1: If it were, we'd figure out.
Speaker 2: And I know you're gonna say, well, we've got regulations
Speaker 2: and you can't afford to do it because you got
Speaker 2: to jump through all these hoops, and yeah, that is
Speaker 2: a problem, but we got far fewer hoops in other states,
Speaker 2: and they're not drilling new wells either because it's not
Speaker 2: profitable right now. And Opek just said for the third time,
Speaker 2: they're gonna drop prices. They're gonna, yeah, they're gonna they're
Speaker 2: gonna increase output, which will lower prices. So I mean,
Speaker 2: you can keep making that argument, but they're still that drilling.
Speaker 2: This is not gonna happen. If they were, they'd be
Speaker 2: drilling in other places where you don't have the regulatory
Speaker 2: hoops to jump through. And the number of new wells
Speaker 2: has dropped way off for that reason. So it's just
Speaker 2: you know, if prices come, if prices go back up
Speaker 2: again and it becomes lucrative, then then we can have
Speaker 2: that conversation. But right now there is no drill, baby, drill.
Speaker 2: I know that's a common refrain. We just need to
Speaker 2: drill more wells. Okay, Well, if if you would have
Speaker 2: to have oil at ninety dollars a barrel in order
Speaker 2: to balance your sheet and make drilling a new well profitable, you're.
Speaker 1: Not gonna do it. If oil is at sixty five
Speaker 1: dollars a barrel, he's not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: And in California, of course, and again to your point
Speaker 2: about regulations, or at least I'm assuming that's your point,
Speaker 2: it would have to be even higher than that in
Speaker 2: order to want to drill more in California.
Speaker 1: Okay, moving on.
Speaker 2: I told you that the Democrats are starting to sound
Speaker 2: like Republicans, especially when it comes to the oil refinery
Speaker 2: shutting down. And you may have heard about Governor Batman
Speaker 2: saying that we need to stop we need to stop
Speaker 2: trans women from.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm distracted here.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to come up with my Batman and I'm
Speaker 2: not getting it.
Speaker 1: It's not there, Kayla, it's not there.
Speaker 3: Well, what are we going to stop trans women from doing.
Speaker 1: Well playing in women's sports? Yeah? Yeah, that's big thing.
Speaker 3: Sounds No.
Speaker 1: I was trying to find my Batman drop.
Speaker 3: And I just didn't come up the next time.
Speaker 2: So anyway, there's this transgender athlete, and of course this
Speaker 2: is the kind of thing that Fox News takes off
Speaker 2: and they're like, can you believe this person that's different
Speaker 2: from you is doing something that you you don't like?
Speaker 2: And I will say, when it comes to trans writes,
Speaker 2: this is the place where I have the biggest hang up,
Speaker 2: because if there is a if there is an unfair advantage.
Speaker 1: It's all about the unfair advantage.
Speaker 2: These other arguments about my kids aren't safe from the
Speaker 2: bathrooms and all that other stuff, I don't believe it
Speaker 2: because it's just that it just doesn't make any sense
Speaker 2: to me when you say, oh, do you want boys
Speaker 2: going into the girl's bathroom? And I just go, what's
Speaker 2: stopping them from doing it?
Speaker 1: Now? Like there's going to be sexual results in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Like the only thing that's stopping a boy from going
Speaker 2: into the girl's bathroom right now is the sign outside
Speaker 2: the door that says women.
Speaker 1: That's it. So I'm just not not buying a lot
Speaker 1: of those arguments.
Speaker 2: But I do think that if you have an unfair
Speaker 2: advantage on the field, that that is not that is
Speaker 2: not a fair competition, right. I mean, we're not talking
Speaker 2: about somebody who was simply born genetically the superior. Like
Speaker 2: you know, you have runners who I'll never be as
Speaker 2: fast as as some of these runners. They have a
Speaker 2: genetic superiority to meet. But all other things are equal,
Speaker 2: and so if you've got somebody that is leveraging a difference,
Speaker 2: that is that is an unfair competitive advantage. So this
Speaker 2: trans athlete did end up winning some medals. In the
Speaker 2: girls High School Track and Field Championship.
Speaker 11: A transgender athlete from Euroupa Valley took home her first
Speaker 11: gold in the girls high jump at the California High
Speaker 11: School Track and Field Championship today. Aby Hernandez shares her
Speaker 11: first place win with two other athletes who also cleared
Speaker 11: a height of five feet seven inches.
Speaker 2: Okay, so to be clear, two other girls born female
Speaker 2: also did the same okay.
Speaker 11: Hernandez also placed second in the.
Speaker 1: Long jump, so that means somebody else beat her.
Speaker 11: Her participation has drawn national attention, sparking controversy. President Trumpy
Speaker 11: and threatened to pull federal funding from the state. Earlier
Speaker 11: this week, the California Interscholastic Federation changed its policy. It
Speaker 11: allowed an additional student to compete and even metal in
Speaker 11: events where Hernandez qualified. We heard from Hernandez's mother after
Speaker 11: the competition today, all.
Speaker 1: Right to tell you get her mother's is upset about it.
Speaker 2: The law makers, the law breakers, and the times that
Speaker 2: there ought to be a law.
Speaker 1: It's la law. Next.
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Speaker 1: Let me see.
Speaker 2: Oh, we just talked about the transgender athlete. Look, I
Speaker 2: don't even care where you fall in the transgender athlete debate.
Speaker 2: I tend to feel like CIF has added another place.
Speaker 2: If you have a transgender athlete competing in your particular event,
Speaker 2: then they've added another place so that you know no
Speaker 2: girls are being denied. You can't say, oh, they stole
Speaker 2: my spot at on the metal stand whatever. Right, So
Speaker 2: there's transgender athletes. So CIF is trying to find some
Speaker 2: sort of a healthy compromise. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: going to stand, but whatever, that's what they're doing right now.
Speaker 2: What frustrates me is a bunch of people at the
Speaker 2: state track and meet track and field meat that are
Speaker 2: screaming at a sixteen year old kid.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That bothers me more than the kid being out there.
Speaker 2: And imagine if you are the parent of a girl
Speaker 2: who has busted her tail her entire life, and she's
Speaker 2: a junior or a senior, and she's at this event,
Speaker 2: and she's doing the high jump against a trans athlete,
Speaker 2: and people aren't cheering on your kid.
Speaker 1: They're not hollering screaming, come on, one more you can
Speaker 1: jump one more inch. You got this new record. I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of you.
Speaker 2: Instead, they're screaming at the person that you're competing against
Speaker 2: and trying to tear her down Like that really bothers
Speaker 2: me for everybody involved. That you got a bunch of
Speaker 2: sixteen year olds dealing with adults that are just bullying
Speaker 2: one of the athletes. Whether you agree or disagree that
Speaker 2: the athletes should or shouldn't be there, it's a sixteen
Speaker 2: year old kid, all right. Talkback as always, we love that.
Speaker 2: If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, just click on
Speaker 2: that talkback button.
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think.
Speaker 2: And I've got a question from the talkback as well,
Speaker 2: and it'll relate to our Eli Law segment here in
Speaker 2: a moment.
Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, I don't always agree with your politics, but
Speaker 1: you are spot on. That's right. In the last segment,
Speaker 1: spot on, Thank you? Yes, right, you hear that, Kayla? Right?
Speaker 3: I think he was one of our high listeners.
Speaker 1: No, he was totally sober. Oh, okay, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: totally sober.
Speaker 4: You know, you didn't make sense in the last segment
Speaker 4: to say I disagree with be a lie, So yeah,
Speaker 4: coming from.
Speaker 2: You're sweet, Thank you so much. All right, So all right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna let you hang on for another show.
Speaker 5: Thank god.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: The lawmakers, the lawbreakers, and the times that there ought
Speaker 2: to be a law talk about question that I throughout today,
Speaker 2: where's someplace that you would never go back to visit?
Speaker 2: And I asked that because there was a big baseball
Speaker 2: alumni game.
Speaker 1: It's Sam Quentin.
Speaker 12: It's America's oldest pastime being played in one of its
Speaker 12: oldest prisons. But something new is brewing at San Quentin.
Speaker 3: The first thing I went through my mind was is
Speaker 3: never going to happen?
Speaker 7: So then when they said it was on the schedule
Speaker 7: to play, I was very excited.
Speaker 12: In the one hundred and twenty three year history of
Speaker 12: the San Quentin field of dreams of first an alumni
Speaker 12: game pitting current inmates against former inmates.
Speaker 13: One.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm all for the activities give inmates. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: purpose drives something to do. I think sports is incredibly helpful.
Speaker 2: I do I think the spirit of competition. I think
Speaker 2: the sports allows us to get some of our aggression out.
Speaker 2: I think that sports gives us a focus. There are
Speaker 2: multitude of studies to talk about the benefits of sports,
Speaker 2: and I'm on board with all of those. I love sports.
Speaker 2: That said, I don't think I would want to go
Speaker 2: back inside those walls ever. If I got if I
Speaker 2: got sent to San Quentin and i got out and
Speaker 2: now I'm out on the street and I'm doing I'm
Speaker 2: keeping my nose clean. Because remember, these are these are
Speaker 2: these are former inmates. These are not people who are
Speaker 2: lifelong criminals who have who are a recidivism stat These
Speaker 2: are people who have gotten out and now they're trying
Speaker 2: to They're trying to make their way, and then they go, hey,
Speaker 2: do you want to come back and play an alumni
Speaker 2: baseball game back inside the walls. No, no, I do not,
Speaker 2: noop uh full disclosure. Gotten a little trouble when I
Speaker 2: was a young man, and as a result, I found
Speaker 2: myself on the wrong side of those bars for a
Speaker 2: short period of time, very short period of time. Don't
Speaker 2: recommend it. Anybody that's ever had a little brush with
Speaker 2: the law. I think most of us can agree, it's
Speaker 2: no fun.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: So I had a little brush with the law when
Speaker 2: I was nineteen years old, and I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: I'm not going back. I'm not going back in any
Speaker 2: sort of a celebratory manner. I'm not going back at
Speaker 2: all to say, Wow, these are the good old days.
Speaker 1: Never. Never.
Speaker 2: So our talk back question, what is someplace that you
Speaker 2: would never go back to visit? Now, I was never
Speaker 2: in I was never in prison, by the way, I
Speaker 2: just Little County lock up for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: It's all all right. But here's what I would I
Speaker 2: would say, let's uh, let's just stay away from there altogether.
Speaker 2: I've had never had any desire to go back and
Speaker 2: see anybody that's that's there.
Speaker 1: Never.
Speaker 2: I would not do it ever. So our talk about question,
Speaker 2: what is someplace you would never go back to visit?
Speaker 2: If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, just click that
Speaker 2: talk back What is someplace that you would never go
Speaker 2: back to visit? Al Right? My daughter is Actually it's funny.
Speaker 2: My daughter is super liberal, super liberal, and I've got
Speaker 2: a son who's kind of a what what is the
Speaker 2: new roul? You help me out here? And I'm asking
Speaker 2: you because you're a you're a young man. Sure you
Speaker 2: haven't been called that in thirty years.
Speaker 1: Have you? What do we call the new crop of
Speaker 1: the bro Conservatives? Is there? Do we have a name
Speaker 1: for that?
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a name yet, but it does
Speaker 5: need a name, because it does.
Speaker 2: It's like the Manisphere, but it's like the the the
Speaker 2: young Trump supporting, high testosterone driven conservatives.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I've got I got one son that's kind of
Speaker 2: leaning in that direction. And it's funny because he's like,
Speaker 2: he says, man, I'm moving to Texas when I get
Speaker 2: a chance, I'm moving to Texas.
Speaker 1: He just can't wait to go to Texas.
Speaker 5: Joe Rogan's baby Rogan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kinda yes, the the yeah, I guess so does Rogan.
Speaker 2: People who follow Rogan have a name, the Rogans, you know,
Speaker 2: are they early balding? Okay, So my daughter is like,
Speaker 2: if you move to Texas, have fun. I'm never coming
Speaker 2: to see you, right, And then my son, you know,
Speaker 2: she's like, well, I'm not going to California to see you.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to California.
Speaker 2: I hate California because California's a bunch of liberals so
Speaker 2: it's funny.
Speaker 1: To listen to them.
Speaker 2: I mean, Texas is a fine place, California is a
Speaker 2: great place, and it just it's funny here people be like,
Speaker 2: I would never visit there.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's funny because your question, talk about question, I
Speaker 9: would have said Texas, but I love Deep Elm. It's
Speaker 9: so cool there, so I can't say I don't like Texas.
Speaker 2: For those unfamiliar, that's kind of the that was sort
Speaker 2: of the old black area of Dallas, right, correct, That's
Speaker 2: that's kind of the other side of the tracks when
Speaker 2: they when they did the redlining through Texas and Deep
Speaker 2: Elam has an incredible amount of history.
Speaker 1: It's it's cool area. It's cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, great bars, great food, the.
Speaker 2: Supervised it's cool, yeah, supervibe. What is someplace you would
Speaker 2: never go back to visit? I'd love to hear your
Speaker 2: quite your answer on the talkback?
Speaker 1: Uh? And is it possible we've got a killer about
Speaker 1: it to be on the loose? That is next.
Speaker 2: Chris Merril CAFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere in
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Speaker 1: Boy, we've got a lot.
Speaker 2: Of really intelligent people leaving us some talkbacks today.
Speaker 1: So excited about that. Uh you want to hear some
Speaker 1: of these? Callia, man, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let me see. Oh, hang on here, because I think
Speaker 2: I got this. Oh maybe I did not? Oh yesda
Speaker 2: oh yeah, here we go yourself. Yeah, there we go,
Speaker 2: there's the guy. Okay, here we go. So we were
Speaker 2: talking about the transathlete, and then I was telling a
Speaker 2: story about my kids, and in fact, didn't I say
Speaker 2: something about the transathlete. Imagine if you've got a little
Speaker 2: girl and she's fought her whole life, and then she's
Speaker 2: at the state finals, but she's running against a transathlete,
Speaker 2: and everybody's screaming at the transathlete instead of cheering your
Speaker 2: kid on.
Speaker 1: And how horrible that must be for the sixteen year old.
Speaker 3: You said that ever beat him?
Speaker 1: I say, Okay, they're just making sure I said that. Okay, Yeah, Chris,
Speaker 1: you're a bum. I don't think you have kids.
Speaker 14: I don't think you understand what it takes for our
Speaker 14: daughters to be out there and put the self forward
Speaker 14: and then to be shut down by a boy playing
Speaker 14: in their game yourself?
Speaker 1: All right? Good?
Speaker 2: Whoa glad he was paying close attention to everything I said.
Speaker 3: Fun guy, fun guy, fun guy.
Speaker 15: I never thought I was see this day coming way.
Speaker 15: I grew with you on one thing. I think you
Speaker 15: right on, you spot on about this trans athlete. You'll
Speaker 15: take on it and everything. I think you said. Need
Speaker 15: to figure it out that way, sixteen year olds don't
Speaker 15: have to be screamed at by some crazy parents.
Speaker 1: That's it, all right, thank you very much. Seem so
Speaker 1: I have to get all the swear words out though,
Speaker 1: waste a lot of my time. Grace.
Speaker 15: I am never going in bed to Flint, Michigan. Oh
Speaker 15: I drunk that Tracey content.
Speaker 2: Oh this was a This was a response to our question.
Speaker 2: We actually did ask a questions and they have to
Speaker 2: do with trans athletes. Where are you never going back
Speaker 2: to visit?
Speaker 1: Grace?
Speaker 15: I am never going in bed to Flint, Michigan. Oh yeah,
Speaker 15: I drunk that trace you contaminated?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 15: And I'm still alive. I'm still alive, So why the
Speaker 15: hell will I go back over there?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I hear you, man, I'm not okay. Good plan now?
Speaker 2: Never never, you know, the closest I've been to foot
Speaker 2: is driving through it couldn't get out faster.
Speaker 1: It's a dump. Flint is a dump. Let's see what
Speaker 1: else do we have here? One more?
Speaker 16: Maybe there were a lot of adults yelling at it.
Speaker 16: Sixteen year old kid who made an adult decision. Yeah,
Speaker 16: to have a lot at off of me. Uh huh,
Speaker 16: So what's the problem?
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I got you.
Speaker 2: So we can scream at the kid because the kid
Speaker 2: did it, made a life changing decision. Okay, that makes
Speaker 2: perfect sense. Any other kids that we want to scream
Speaker 2: at that to do things that they Okay, all right, great,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do anymore. Right now, let's save
Speaker 2: Kill has got more for me. Let's just save these
Speaker 2: for the next segment. Killer, I gotta talk about I
Speaker 2: gotta talk about this, this Manson follower who gets paroled again,
Speaker 2: parole recommendation again.
Speaker 13: It's impossible for me to be done with these because
Speaker 13: public safety is at risk.
Speaker 17: Debra Tait is the sister of Sharon Tate, who was
Speaker 17: eight and a half months pregnant when she was murdered
Speaker 17: in nineteen sixty nine inside her home in Los Angeles
Speaker 17: by members of the Manson family.
Speaker 13: I should have a nephew that I never got to experience.
Speaker 17: Deborah has attended all fifteen parole hearings for Patricia Krenwinkle,
Speaker 17: who was a main actor in the murders of Tate
Speaker 17: and four other people that night in the same home.
Speaker 17: She spoke at the hearing today strongly opposing parole. This
Speaker 17: interview is from twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: All right, this skip ahead. I don't care. I want
Speaker 1: to know what she thinks today.
Speaker 17: Enwinkle also participated in another Manson family killing rampage the
Speaker 17: very next night, stabbing Leno and Rosemary LaBianca to death
Speaker 17: inside their Los Angeles home. On Fredwinkle used a fork
Speaker 17: to carve the word war in the husband's stomach, and
Speaker 17: then used the victim's blood to write he Helter skelter
Speaker 17: on a refrigerator door. The couple's nephew spoke today saying
Speaker 17: the murder weapon was the carving fork for our Christmas turkey.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 17: She is a serial murderer. She should have had the
Speaker 17: death penalty. All of the Manson murderers were in fact
Speaker 17: given the death penalty, but in nineteen seventy two, the
Speaker 17: California Supreme Court converted their sentences to life in prison.
Speaker 17: Charles Manson.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker 2: He makes him sound like the California Supreme Court was like, nah,
Speaker 2: they don't deserve it.
Speaker 1: No, hang on.
Speaker 2: A little context is that we nationally said no death penalty,
Speaker 2: and then it came back and so everybody that was
Speaker 2: on death row had their sentences converted. This is not
Speaker 2: like the California Supreme Court's like, you know, we don't
Speaker 2: think this is so bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hang on here.
Speaker 17: Charles Manson died behind bars in twenty seventeen. One of
Speaker 17: the killers, Leslie Van Howden, is now out on parole.
Speaker 17: Cranwinkle declined to testify at today's hearing. You believe, but
Speaker 17: she spoke to the La Times in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 12: I guess when I started thinking with myself, mostly the
Speaker 12: word I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care, what she said. Ten years ago.
Speaker 17: This afternoon, parole commissioners granted crean Winkle's parole, saying, at
Speaker 17: age seventy seven, she no longer poses a risk to society.
Speaker 17: Her release still has to be approved by the full
Speaker 17: Parole Board, and then the final decision will go to
Speaker 17: the Governor's office, which could take several months. David Godferdson,
Speaker 17: CBS eight.
Speaker 1: Thank you, David. I appreciate it, CBS eight in San Diego.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The governor in the past has actually said no, you're
Speaker 2: not getting parole. He would be an absolute moron. And
Speaker 2: I mean that in the in the most literal sense,
Speaker 2: because it would be wildly foolish for a guy with
Speaker 2: political ambition to do something so incredibly unpopular. He already
Speaker 2: went out on a limb on the whole Menendez thing,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't even go out and know him on that.
Speaker 2: He just hasn't come back and said, well, Menanda's brothers
Speaker 2: need to stay in prison.
Speaker 1: He hasn't done that.
Speaker 2: He has done that with some of the Manson family,
Speaker 2: and he needs to continue to say she's not getting out.
Speaker 2: And the deal is this in our justice system in
Speaker 2: the United States. Other countries are different. Other countries you
Speaker 2: have maximum sentences of twenty or twenty five years or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right not here. We have a very punitive justice system.
Speaker 2: If you take a life and you're sentenced to life,
Speaker 2: you do life. I don't like what bothers me about
Speaker 2: the current status is that they had the death penalty
Speaker 2: and then the death penalty was turned into life in prison.
Speaker 2: That's not life in prison with a chance of parole
Speaker 2: in my mind. No, these crimes were so egregious and
Speaker 2: so heinous that it's not about whether you're rehabilitated. It's
Speaker 2: about the punishment. And when it comes to crime and punishment,
Speaker 2: you got to stay behind bars. You forfeited your right
Speaker 2: to ever see freedom again when you when you carved
Speaker 2: somebody up and.
Speaker 1: Then did it again the next night.
Speaker 2: That's that wasn't a mistake in time, It's just something
Speaker 2: you're gonna pay for.
Speaker 1: That's it. You're done. There is no coming back from that. So, uh,
Speaker 1: there's no way in the world.
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if Governor Batman says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fine. I mean, he would never be able to
Speaker 2: show his Bruce Wayne looking face around the state again
Speaker 2: if he said, yeah, you can come out. Nope, Nope,
Speaker 2: not while he's got the political ambitions that he has
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: This is just too risky a thing for him. He's
Speaker 1: not doing it all right.
Speaker 2: The question is what is someplace you would never go
Speaker 2: back to visit. I had a story in our Crime
Speaker 2: of Punishment segment segment there about the former inmates of
Speaker 2: San Quentin going back to play an alumni baseball game
Speaker 2: against current inmates. You would not catch me going back,
Speaker 2: No way. I would not want to go back behind
Speaker 2: those bars.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 2: I want to put that chapter behind me. What is
Speaker 2: someplace you would never go back to visit? One gentleman
Speaker 2: said Flint, Michigan, and don't blame him said don't.
Speaker 1: Where's it?
Speaker 2: You would never go back to visit that? And drugs
Speaker 2: on the campaign trail. I mean, I get it.
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