1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,919 Epstein Chronicles. Les Wexner was deposed yesterday by members of Congress, 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,839 and according to reports, the vast majority of them felt 4 00:00:13,839 --> 00:00:18,800 like les Wexner wasn't being exactly truthful and that should 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,399 not come as a shock to anybody considering how deeply 6 00:00:22,559 --> 00:00:26,960 entwined Jeffrey Epstein and less Wexner were. What you think 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,280 He's just going to incriminate himself and make it easy 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,359 on us, of course not so. Wexner was never going 9 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:35,880 to be the Rosetta Stone. He was never going to 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,520 give them the information they needed. But with that said, 11 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:41,880 we'll have to wait until the transcript becomes available until 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,159 we have a HD view of what went down. So 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,479 in this episode, what we're going to do is take 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,600 a look at what's being reported, and then when the 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,719 transcripts become available, we'll get those bad boys added to 16 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:59,520 the catalog as well. But first things first, this article 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,280 is from the AP and the headline billionaire Les Wexner 18 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:06,640 says he was duped by advisor Jeffrey Epstein, a world 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,280 class con man. Nobody buys that he was duped by Epstein. 20 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:14,840 Huh okay? I guess one of the smartest, richest men 21 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:18,120 in the world duped by Jeffrey Epstein to the tune 22 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:22,599 of what forty seven million or so. Imagine getting forty 23 00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:26,079 seven million dollars pilfered from you by a world class 24 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:29,079 conman and not reporting that to the police or the 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:34,079 FBI or whoever. Well, I guess forty seven million means 26 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:39,319 nothing to less. Wexner must be nice. The billionaire behind 27 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:42,640 the retail empire that wants blanketed shopping malls with names 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,480 such as Victoria's Secret and Abercrombie and Fitch told members 29 00:01:46,519 --> 00:01:48,959 of Congress on Wednesday that he was duped by a 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,319 world class conman. Close financial advisor, Jeffrey Epstein. Les Wexner 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,920 also denied knowing about the late sex offenders' crimes or 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,319 participating in Epstein's abuse of girls and young women. So 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,680 I think the situation with Wexner is mainly about financials. 34 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:09,479 If you want to slam the door shut on Wexner 35 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:12,599 and maybe get them on something, then financials are going 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,080 to be the way to do it. And it's just 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,479 like Prince Andrew over in the UK. You open the 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,960 door with the trade secrets and then from there, I'll 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,919 bets are off. And it's really wild for me to 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,159 see how many people don't understand how these investigations go. 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,240 Do you think they just show up with a smoking gun. 42 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:34,800 That's not how it works. They open the investigation, they 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,039 collect circumstantial evidence, and then once that evidence is collected, 44 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,960 they bring it to a judge. They say to the judge, hey, 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,639 look here's what we have. Can we get a warrant 46 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,080 for so and so? And that's how all of these 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,400 cases are built. So when you hear people talking about, oh, well, 48 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,439 that's circumstantial evidence, they really just don't know what they're 49 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:57,120 talking about. Because when you have a gigantic, sprawling investigation 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,919 such as this, you have to have an inn and 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,080 if that inroad is a financial crime, then so be it. 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,879 And then from there it becomes sprawling. Right. There's something 53 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:12,400 called the superseded indictment, and what that means is later 54 00:03:12,479 --> 00:03:14,759 on down the road, if you're indicted for something, if 55 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:18,479 they find other crimes, they can adjust that indictment and 56 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,360 supersede it with a new indictment charging you with new 57 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,000 crimes that they found during their investigation. So it's laughable 58 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:28,199 when you see people out here talking about well, this 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,400 has nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein, you dumb morons. 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,439 First of all, it has everything to do with Epstein, 61 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:39,400 considering you pass the information on to Epstein. Second of all, 62 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,520 if you think the investigation is going to end here 63 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:46,439 when it comes to the confidential information, you're smoking something. 64 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:50,599 Because once this door was opened, once this Pandora's box 65 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:56,960 was emptied, there was no going back. I was naive, foolish, 66 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,639 and gullible to put any trust in Jeffrey Epstein man. 67 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:03,000 And while I was conned, I have done nothing wrong 68 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,479 and have nothing to hide, the eighty eight year old 69 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:08,479 retired founder of L Brand said in a statement to 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,159 the House Oversight and Reform Committee released before his interview. 71 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,120 The panel's Democrats had subpoenaed him after the latest Justice 72 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Department release of Epstein related documents revealed new details about 73 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,879 Wexner's relationship with the well connected financier. Ranking member Representative 74 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:31,800 James Comer, a Kentucky Republican, said Wexner answered every question 75 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:35,279 asked of him during the six hour procedure. A video 76 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,920 and transcript are to be released soon. Yo Comer hasn't 77 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:44,839 met an Epstein friend that he doesn't like anything that 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,360 Donald Trump says, Comer is willing to do. And it's 79 00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:52,040 really pathetic to watch. Do these people not understand that 80 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,360 Donald Trump is going to be out of office soon? 81 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:59,199 What then? What are you guys going to do? What 82 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:01,240 is going to be the the narrative? What's gonna be 83 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:07,319 the party line? We protect pedophiles, We don't pursue disgusting people. 84 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,319 Money Laundering's okay? I mean, what's gonna be the next slogan? 85 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,839 Because I promise you there are gonna be campaign ads 86 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,360 littered throughout the election season that have the GOP framed 87 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:25,759 as people that were protecting Jeffrey Epstein and his friends. 88 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:28,920 Make no mistake about it, or maybe they'll use this one. Look, 89 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:32,959 it wasn't pedophilia. The girls were fifteen and sixteen. I mean, 90 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,360 that's the level we're at now with the people trying 91 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:37,879 to defend this shit. I mean, there's a whole group 92 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,160 of people out there that have made it their life's 93 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:44,199 work now to try and make Jeffrey Epstein out to 94 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:47,079 be not the monster that he really was. The shit 95 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,839 is bizarre, and honestly, I think a lot of it 96 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:52,839 has to do with them being jealous that they missed 97 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:55,600 the story. They weren't on the story from the jump, 98 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:58,439 So now what they're trying to do is demean it. 99 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,720 And it's pretty odd that the vast majority of them 100 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:06,600 are people that are pro Israel. And as you all know, 101 00:06:06,879 --> 00:06:08,879 I'm not somebody that sits here and shits on Israel 102 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,199 all the time. And I don't think that Jeffrey Epstein 103 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,360 was a Masad spy. But there's no doubt that there 104 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:19,800 is a lot of pushback coming from the pro Israel 105 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,120 brigade who feels like this is damaging to Israel. So 106 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,480 they're going to do everything in their power to try 107 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,439 and demean the claims that are coming out about Jeffrey Epstein. 108 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:32,079 And of course Wexner is somebody that's very powerful in 109 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,399 that lobby, so they're gonna deny Wexner's role for sure. Oh, 110 00:06:35,439 --> 00:06:40,480 he had nothing to do with it. This is all overblown. YadA, YadA, YadA. 111 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,040 Wexner described himself to the lawmakers as a philanthropist, community builder, 112 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,360 and grandfather who always strove to live my life in 113 00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:51,800 an ethical manner in line with my moral compass. According 114 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,360 to the statement, he said, he was eager to set 115 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,000 the record straight about his ties with Epstein. Their relation 116 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,639 ended bitterly in two thousand and seven after the Wexner's 117 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,920 discovered he'd been stealing from them. They discovered he'd been 118 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:08,079 stealing and didn't do shit about it, didn't report him, 119 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:11,160 didn't try and get that money back, No clawback, nothing. Oh, 120 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,439 Epstein gave us some back. Sure he did. I've always 121 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,959 said and I continue to say that that was part 122 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,079 of the hustle, that was the escape patch. If Epstein 123 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,560 ever got naeled, Wexner could just say, look, he stole 124 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,600 from me. I was a victim too, And that's what 125 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:29,160 all these people try to do, set themselves up as 126 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:33,480 the victim. Meanwhile, there are literally over a thousand women 127 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,879 and girls who have been abused. But sure you're the victim. 128 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:40,759 As one of Epstein's most prominent former friends, Wexner has 129 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:44,800 spent years answering for their decades long association, and he 130 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:49,040 sought to use the proceeding to dispel what he called outrageous, 131 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,399 untrue statements and her full rumor, innuendo and speculation that 132 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,399 have shadowed him. So, if what Maria said about him 133 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,519 isn't true, why didn't Wexner sewer all these people are 134 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,800 so soon happy. Why didn't Wexner sewer? Could it be 135 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:06,720 that he doesn't want to go to Discovery? Could that 136 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,079 have something to do with it? I think that's the 137 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,319 whole story. Honestly, none of these guys want to go 138 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:19,759 to Discovery because they know they'll get crushed. Representative Robert Garcia, 139 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,079 a California Democrat, who sat in on Wednesday's interview, expressed 140 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:28,399 skepticism and comments to reporters gathered near the proceeding, Well, yeah, 141 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,079 he wasn't being honest. I don't even have to see 142 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:35,159 the transcripts to know that Wexner was being evasive. There 143 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,879 is no single person that was more involved in providing 144 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,519 Jeffrey Epstein with financial support to commit his crimes than 145 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,559 Les Wexner. He said, that's not untrue. As much as 146 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,440 I don't like mister Garcia, that is not an untrue statement. 147 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:52,039 Les Wexner is at the nexus of all of this 148 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:57,080 when we're talking about financials. In response to allegations by 149 00:08:57,159 --> 00:09:00,879 prominent late Epstein victim Virginia Roberts, who claimed in court 150 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:04,840 documents that Wexner was among the men Epstein trafficked her too, 151 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,919 Wexner testified to utter devotion to his wife of thirty 152 00:09:08,919 --> 00:09:12,919 three years, Abigail. He said he'd never once been unfaithful 153 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,759 in any way, shape or form. Never. Any suggestion to 154 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:20,879 the contrary is absolutely and entirely false. You know, he 155 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:24,200 never sued Virginia either, and Virginia said that he was 156 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:28,279 part of the abuse. So if somebody said that you 157 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,080 were abusing them and that you were, you know, part 158 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,200 of a trafficking ring, wouldn't you sue them? I know 159 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:36,559 I would, especially if I had the money that less 160 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,159 Wexner has. So why didn't he do it? If he 161 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:44,799 was so truthful and Virginia is such a liar, why 162 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:49,480 didn't he suer? I'll tell you why. Because he's a liar, 163 00:09:49,919 --> 00:09:54,240 That's what I think. Wexner's name appears more than one 164 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,519 thousand times in the Epstein files, which does not imply guilt, 165 00:09:57,799 --> 00:10:01,679 and Wexner has never been charged with any His spokesperson 166 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:05,080 said the number of mentions is not expected or unexpected 167 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,720 given their long running ties. Well, I agree with that. 168 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:11,840 The mentions don't mean you're guilty, but it means that 169 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:14,039 you are closer than you let on. And if his 170 00:10:14,159 --> 00:10:16,840 name was mentioned a thousand times in this dump. How 171 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,120 many times is it mentioned in the ones they won't release? 172 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,440 That's the question we should be asking. Epstein first met 173 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,639 Leslie Wexner through a business associate in nineteen eighty six. 174 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:31,679 Oh yeah, I'm sure that's the story. It was an 175 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,799 opportune time for Wesner's finances. The Ohio business owner had 176 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,000 grown a single limited store in Columbus into a suite 177 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,840 of nineteen eighty's mall staples. The Limited Express Lane, Bryant 178 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:48,320 and Victoria's Secret Bath and Body Works, Abercrombie and Fitch, Lerner, 179 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:54,720 White Barn Candle Company, and Henry Bendel would follow. Wexner 180 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:57,759 told Bammakers that it was several years before he turned 181 00:10:57,799 --> 00:11:01,279 over management of his vast fortune to a Epstein after 182 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,120 the master of Manipulator connived to gain his trust such 183 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,639 absolute bs the grand con Man Jeffrey Epstein. The guy 184 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,360 was a moron. Okay, let's just stop fucking around, go 185 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,279 and read the emails yourself. The guy was an absolute moron. 186 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,879 He gave Epstein power of attorney in nineteen ninety one, 187 00:11:27,039 --> 00:11:30,919 allowing Epstein to make investments, do business deals, purchase property, 188 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,200 and help Wexner as he developed new aubny from a 189 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,639 small rural city to a thriving, upscale Columbus suburb. Epstein 190 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,600 had excellent judgment and unusually high standards, Wexner told Vanity 191 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:46,000 Fair in a two thousand and three interview, and he 192 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:49,480 was always a most loyal friend. Oh, a most loyal friend? 193 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:54,480 Is it? That's nice? Jeffrey Epstein the most loyalist of friends? 194 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,480 On Wednesday, the billionaire said he didn't circulate in Epstein's 195 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,759 social circle, but often heard accounts of his encounters with 196 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,120 other wealthy people. Everybody else was doing it, but not me. 197 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:12,080 I didn't do it. Epstein carefully used his acquaintance with 198 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:16,840 important individuals to curate an aura of legitimacy, Wexner said. 199 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,320 He said he visited Epstein's infamous island only once, stopping 200 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,679 for a few hours one morning with his wife and 201 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,480 young children while they were cruising on their boat. So 202 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:29,480 you're out on your yacht. I'm sure you have a 203 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:32,600 chef of your own, but sure, let's pull into Jeffrey 204 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,480 Epstein's island, spend one hour there eating, and leave. While 205 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:40,960 that sounds legit takes longer to dock the boat than 206 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:46,960 you spent on the Island. Huh, all right, cool. It's 207 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,960 interesting that mister Wexner has already begun to clarify in 208 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,120 his mind that somehow he and Epstein weren't even friends. 209 00:12:53,159 --> 00:12:56,399 Garcia told reporters he should be very clear that the 210 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,639 two were very close. Per reporting, they spent a lot 211 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,759 of time together. In one of the newly released documents, 212 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:07,519 Epstein sent rough notes to himself about Wexner, saying never 213 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:11,080 ever did anything without informing less and would never give 214 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:14,720 him up. Another document, an apparent draft letter to Wexner, 215 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 said the two had gang stuff for over fifteen years 216 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,000 and were mutually indebted to each other, as Wexner helped 217 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,159 make Epstein rich and Epstein helped make Wexner richer. Yo 218 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,759 financial crimes and abundance. I'm talking about everything from money 219 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:38,919 laundering to god knows what. Wexner spokesperson said. Wexner never 220 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,360 received the letter, characterizing it as fitting a pattern of untrue, outlandish, 221 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:47,159 and delusional statements made by Epstein in desperate attempts to 222 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:51,120 perpetuate his lies and justify his misconduct. Or could it 223 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,120 be that he was memorializing the situation for himself. He 224 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,200 never thought anybody else was going to see those emails. 225 00:14:00,279 --> 00:14:03,879 Wexner told the congressional representatives that Epstein lived a double life, 226 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,559 presenting himself to his wealthy clients as a financial guru 227 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:11,519 with steady girlfriends, while the most carefully and fully hiding 228 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,879 his misdeeds with underage girls. He knew that I would 229 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:18,039 have never tolerated his horrible behavior, not any of it, 230 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,519 he said. The problem is he wasn't hiding it. He 231 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:24,480 had a bunch of young girls around him all the time. 232 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:27,000 And here's something nobody else talks about, but I will. 233 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,519 Jean lu Brunel was sending Jeffrey Epstein fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, 234 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,759 seventeen year old girls from South America on a regular basis. 235 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,120 Just go and look at the merits of Vasquez deposition. 236 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,440 She breaks it all down. Now, you can dispute what 237 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:45,759 she says and say you don't believe her, and I 238 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,639 guess that's okay. But when you look at the evidence 239 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:51,600 and put it together, it's obvious what was happening, So 240 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:55,159 less Wexner should just save it. I don't believe for 241 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,720 a second that somebody like Les Wexner had no idea 242 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,120 what was going on. Some accusers said Epstein touted his 243 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,120 ties to Wexner and claimed he could help get them 244 00:15:06,159 --> 00:15:10,759 jobs modeling for the Victoria's Secret Catalog. One woman, an 245 00:15:10,799 --> 00:15:14,720 aspiring actor and model, told the FBI that Epstein said 246 00:15:14,759 --> 00:15:18,000 he was best friends with longtime Victoria's Secret owner and 247 00:15:18,039 --> 00:15:20,360 that she'd have to learn to be comfortable in her 248 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,000 underwear and not be approved. According to a recently released 249 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,120 grand jury testimony, another woman said she reported Epstein to 250 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:31,480 police in ninety seven after he groped her during what 251 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:35,399 she thought was a modeling interview for the Victoria's Secret Catalog. 252 00:15:36,559 --> 00:15:41,000 After Epstein's twenty nineteen arrest, Wexner's lawyers told investigators that 253 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,919 the businessman had heard a rumor that Epstein might be 254 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:49,080 holding himself out as connected to Victoria's Secret. Prosecutors wrote 255 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,720 a recently disclosed memorandum summarizing the probe. When Wexner asked 256 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,000 Epstein about it, Epstein denied doing so, the lawyer said. 257 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:00,799 According to the memo, Wexner did not as the specific 258 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:05,120 issue in his statement Wednesday, but repeatedly lamented being deceived 259 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,600 by Epstein, an abuser, a crook, and a liar. El 260 00:16:09,679 --> 00:16:12,960 brand sold off Victoria's Secret in twenty twenty, in one 261 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:18,320 of Wexner's final acts as chair. Wexner did not publicly 262 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,960 reveal until after Epstein's arrest on federal sex trafficking charges 263 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,399 in July of twenty nineteen that he had severed their relationship. 264 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:29,159 In a Wexner Foundation letter that August, he said that 265 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,519 happened in two thousand and seven, but the Justice Department's 266 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,720 newly released records showed the two were in touch after that. 267 00:16:36,519 --> 00:16:39,360 Oh what do you know, Les, Wexner's lying again. Come on, 268 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,919 these guys are actually lying about their relationship with Epstein. 269 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,159 Why would they do that. There's nothing to see here. 270 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:51,279 It's all just overblown, right, It's a moral panic. Fucking goofballs. 271 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:55,480 Wexner emailed Epstein on June twenty sixth, two thousand and eight, 272 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,519 after a plea deal was announced that would require him 273 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:01,600 to serve eighteen months and a Florida jail on a 274 00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:05,720 stage charge of soliciting prostitution from a minor in order 275 00:17:05,799 --> 00:17:10,400 to avoid federal prosecution. He wound up serving thirteen months. 276 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,799 Abigail told me the result, all I can say is 277 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:17,119 I feel sorry. You violated your own number one rule. 278 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,759 Always be careful Wexner wrote, Epstein re applied no excuse. 279 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,119 Nobody had any idea. Huh. Epstein had rules that he 280 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,119 violated that Wesner knew about, but he had no idea 281 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,160 what Epstein was up to. That's the narrative, folks, and 282 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:38,920 he's sticking to it. His spokesman said that the two 283 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,599 thousand and seven date Wexner cited in twenty nineteen applied 284 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:45,880 to firing Epstein as a financial advisor, revoking his power 285 00:17:46,039 --> 00:17:50,160 of attorney, and removing his name from Wexner's bank accounts. 286 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,839 Wexner also said in twenty nineteen letter that Epstein had 287 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,680 misappropriated vast sums of his family's money while overseeing his finances, 288 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:03,200 and investigators. Memo from the latest document release says Wexner's 289 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,960 attorneys told investigators in two thousand and eight that Epstein 290 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,960 had to repaid them one hundred million. Wexner said in 291 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,079 a Wednesday's statement that Epstein returned a substantial amount of 292 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,799 the undisclosed total. I don't believe that. I'm sorry, I 293 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:20,880 don't believe it, and if he did, it was all 294 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:27,079 a baked and excuse. Garcia said. Congressional investigators have identified 295 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,799 more than one billion that was either transferred, provided in stocks, 296 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:35,200 or given directly to Wexner by Epstein, though Wexner appears 297 00:18:35,319 --> 00:18:38,599 to be unaware of much of it. I'm an old man, 298 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,599 I don't remember. What do you want from me? Has 299 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,839 anybody seen my shoes and my glasses? On Wednesday, Wexner 300 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,039 testified he had never seen Epstein with any young girls 301 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,680 and acknowledged the unfathomable pain he inflicted, even as discoveries 302 00:18:55,799 --> 00:18:58,440 in the Epstein files have placed new pressure on them. 303 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,119 Once Maria Farmer set a redacted FBI report contained in 304 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,279 the document released vindicated her long standing claim that she 305 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,880 filed one of the earliest complaints against Epstein while she 306 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,279 was under his employee in nineteen ninety six working on 307 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:19,079 an art project at the Wexner estate. Well, yeah, she 308 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,279 said that a million times, and it turned out to 309 00:19:21,279 --> 00:19:27,160 be true. Meanwhile, survivors of sweeping sexual abuse scandal at 310 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,759 the Ohio State University are citing Wexner's association with Epstein 311 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:35,519 to try and get his name removed from a campus 312 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:39,559 football complex, and university nurses also on his name scrubbed 313 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:43,599 from the Wexner Medical Center. You blame him. Imagine walking 314 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,240 into work every day with that dude's name pasted on 315 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:50,160 the door. No thank you. So look, as far as 316 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,519 Wexner goes, this was the first step. Get him under oath. 317 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,640 Let's see what he has to say, and then start 318 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,559 digging from there, and hopefully that's what happens, because if 319 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:03,960 any should be answering questions about their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, 320 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:08,839 Les Wexner is most certainly near the top of the list. 321 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,480 All of the information that goes with this episode can 322 00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:15,559 be found in the description box.