WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:11.800 Violence has a spectrum from emotional to psychological to physical, 2 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:15.800 and even then on that spectrum, it has a spectrum 3 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:20.559 of severity. Occasionally we find a case so horrific it's 4 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:25.359 violence spreads across all spectrums, and in today's case, we 5 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:29.440 definitely find that not only did a gruesome murder take place, 6 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:34.159 but the violence was spread to family, friends, and online. 7 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:39.799 This is the case a boss seed, McLean. My name's 8 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:40.479 Ben and. 9 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:43.960 I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked and Grim, a 10 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:45.039 true grime podcast. 11 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:52.840 The following past and material in a mat Your audience 12 00:00:53.640 --> 00:01:14.319 listener discretion is advised. I have been eyeing this up 13 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.599 all fucking day, the entire day. This has been sitting 14 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.280 in the fridge calling my name, and. 15 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:24.040 Now you've been whining about it. 16 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:27.000 I have been, but now it's mine. 17 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:35.879 It is ah my gosh. Nicole just stared at me 18 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:40.439 while Yeah, I mean, what else was I supposed to watch? 19 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:44.319 I don't know. Maybe you can watch our logo screen 20 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:44.719 over here. 21 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:47.959 Doesn't that make it better? Though? Like that you had 22 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.879 to kind of like wait and earn it in a way. 23 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.719 Well, yeah, of course it always does. Yeah, that's why, 24 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.000 Like when you have a cold beer, after doing some 25 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:58.920 yard work in a hot summer date. Like, why it 26 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.200 hits so good? It's because you earned it. 27 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:03.920 I'm drinking something I'm not supposed to be drinking right now, 28 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:04.439 but that's fair. 29 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:05.920 You got some hot chocolate in the goo. 30 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:09.639 I do smells good, but technically I am in like 31 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.240 some sort of transformation challenge and I probably am not 32 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:13.120 allowed hot chocolate. 33 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.360 But hey, you do you you got to live your life? 34 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:19.639 You do? They call it self care, don't they having 35 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:21.240 extra calories? Self care? 36 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:22.240 Self care? 37 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.759 I know, treat yourself, treat yourself. Yeah, it's self care. 38 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:30.719 Yeah, speaking of self care, all our patrons get a 39 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:32.840 little bit of self care when they sign up because 40 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.439 they get the behind the scenes content, the exclusive content 41 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.719 which happens at the end of every month. And we 42 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:39.680 have a lot of people to thank this week. Why 43 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:40.479 are you smirking at me? 44 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.400 Because that was quite a transition. I'm not certain if 45 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:44.120 it worked or not. 46 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:48.159 But I think it works okay. Anyways, so we have 47 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:49.639 a lot of people to thank this week for signing 48 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.599 up for our Patreon. We have Candice Anderson, Tory, Rebecca 49 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:59.120 carav Harrison Biern's desiree Arlano. I think I might have 50 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:02.199 missed that in a name desiree Arlano, that is what 51 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:06.400 I'm going to get Arlano. Yeah, Andrea will Williams, Andrea Williams, 52 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:09.120 sorry I messed that one up to and Christine Bucy, 53 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:11.639 thank you so much for sending it for Patreon. You 54 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.479 guys right now, they're in the midst of voting for 55 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.159 what episode they want, what case. 56 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:19.879 For their their freebie, right, they're free, but. 57 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:21.400 They're they're they're exclusive. 58 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:24.199 Exclusive. That's the word I was trying to get. 59 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:25.960 Yeah, so they're in the midst of doing that voting 60 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.599 and they're they're going to get a cool episode. 61 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.479 That was the list of people it was. 62 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:32.800 Thank you so much for your support. It means a lot. 63 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:34.840 We also had a lot of support recently at our 64 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:37.199 trivia night over at dead Fall Brewing. 65 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:38.919 Yeah, that was a week ago. 66 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.879 It was we had a blast putting it on. Thank 67 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:44.919 you to everyone who showed up. I think we're going 68 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:47.680 to be doing some trivia stuff on our social media 69 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:49.439 because we've got a lot of trivia questions. 70 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:51.039 Now we do now, Yeah, we have two sets. 71 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.080 So which I think it's about sixty trivia questions that 72 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:56.800 we've come up with, and I think we're going to 73 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.479 do some reels or something like that on Instagram and Facebook, 74 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:00.719 so you guys, if you want to check out some 75 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.960 trivia stuff. We're not saying it's coming out like tomorrow 76 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:06.599 or today, but in the coming week or so, it'll 77 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.639 be we'll start putting a few trivia questions out there 78 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:09.919 for you. 79 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:14.000 Yeah, that'd be cool. I mean, some of those questions 80 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.439 are pretty dang tough. You could ask me them now 81 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:18.279 and you've already asked me them like ten times that 82 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.800 I still wouldn't remember the answer fair enough. 83 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.079 Well, the first time we did it, a lot of 84 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.959 people got almost all the questions right. There was very 85 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.240 few questions that they did not get. So this time around, 86 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:32.519 we made the trivia questions a bit harder, and I 87 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:35.279 think we hit it on the head with the difficulty level. 88 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.639 So because it was still it wasn't too difficult that 89 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.759 it wasn't fun, like, you know, because you're there were 90 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:44.079 some questions oh yeah, like I know that, I know that, 91 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.720 but then there was some that you're like, your gears 92 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:47.439 are really turning. 93 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:49.160 Oh yeah, And we made sure it was a diverse 94 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:52.040 group of questions too. So listen to the podcast. Listen 95 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.279 to our other podcasts, if you listen to Patreon Netflix 96 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:59.519 documentaries like Across the Board. You need a diverse group 97 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.480 of people to really answer all these questions. So we 98 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.600 did a good job, and so did everyone over on trivia. 99 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.279 But the team that did win only at two people 100 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:09.959 that which is true, which is amazing. 101 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:15.120 Incredible, and I'm not gonna lie. That team was basically 102 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:17.199 consistent of one person, even though it was it was 103 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.120 two people. I don't naming names, but but but they know, 104 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:27.879 they know. I think they both know. Anyways, you ready 105 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:28.720 for today's case? 106 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:29.160 I am. 107 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:30.160 You're sure you are? 108 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:35.639 I am, but I literally actually have no idea what 109 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.000 the fuck it is. Okay, be honest, I know you've 110 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:39.480 told me, and well. 111 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:42.399 I didn't really tell you. I told you the hook 112 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:44.720 that kind of captured my attention when I found it 113 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:46.600 online and I was like, oh, that sounds wild. I'm 114 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:48.399 going to research it. That's all I told you. 115 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:50.800 Okay, Well, I've forgotten that, and we're I'll. 116 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:53.360 In the middle of this, we'll touch on that that 117 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:57.720 hook if you will. Okay. So this episode is the 118 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.519 episode of Beside McClain, and it takes place in the 119 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:04.040 heart of New York City, and within New York City 120 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:07.079 lies a district of the Bronx. Now, the Bronx is 121 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:11.120 home to the iconic landmarks such as like Yankee Stadium, 122 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.839 where the New York Yankees proudly play their games. Right. However, 123 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.759 beyond this famed sports arena, the Bronx carries a weighty 124 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:23.079 reputation in terms of safety. As per recent statistics from 125 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:26.600 Neighborhood Scout, the Bronx falls within the fourteenth percentile for 126 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.639 safety nationwide as of twenty twenty three, marking as one 127 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.759 of the more dangerous regions across the United States. Ok 128 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.240 So it's got a reputations. It's tough to be in 129 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.680 the Bronx, Okay. Now, many people who do call it home, though, 130 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.279 are passionate about their city and they have very strong 131 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:50.079 love for it. Which love. Now within the Bronx is 132 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.079 where our story today does take place. And we go 133 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.959 back to February of twenty thirteen, so we are going 134 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:01.160 back just over ten years ago, which I think, yeah, 135 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:03.959 it's February now, so that it'd be eleven years ago. Sorry, 136 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:05.480 my math there was off a little bit, and then 137 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.079 I was like, wait, I was calling myself on it. 138 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:10.319 Oh Man, So the people of New York began their 139 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:13.959 day just like any other you know, buses, cars and 140 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.800 subway routes where we're all filling up with passengers making 141 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.240 their way about the city and heading to work. Many 142 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:21.959 people were walking the streets and in true New York fashion, 143 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:26.120 they were minding themselves head down, doing their own thing 144 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:27.079 in their own world. 145 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:28.639 Big city fashion. 146 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.399 Ain't and New York is one of the biggest cities 147 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.839 there is, especially with that big city attitude, right yeah, 148 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:37.920 I mean, I'm sure there's like you can go like 149 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.240 Tokyo and stuff like, if you really compete with cities 150 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.160 around the world, I'm sure there's bigger, But as far 151 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.560 as the United States go, New York is it's called 152 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:48.000 a big apple for a reason, right, really yep. So, however, 153 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.120 it was hard to turn a blind eye, even if 154 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:52.720 you are just minding your own business to the horrifying 155 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:57.000 discovery that came to light on this morning. Someone was 156 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:59.439 walking their dog during their morning routine at about four 157 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.319 point thirty, and it was then not the dog began 158 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:06.279 sniffing insssedly some garbage bags in the sidewalk, some garbage 159 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:09.560 bags that were sitting there waiting for collection. Now, in itself, 160 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.519 this isn't exactly anything extraordinary. Garbage often contained scraps of food, 161 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.879 for example, which could capture a dog's attention pretty easily, right, 162 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:21.439 But something about this was different. The dog wasn't letting up. 163 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.319 Now upon closer look, the person who was walking their 164 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.439 dogs saw a gruesome sight. Their dog was sniffing at 165 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:32.320 a dismembered human limb underneath some piled garbage. 166 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:33.960 Oh shit. 167 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:38.399 Okay, so authorities were of course called immediately and the 168 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.240 block was surrounded. 169 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.919 What kind of limb exactly? Gosh? 170 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:48.480 I saw a couple different reports, and most of them 171 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.840 just said limb. One of them said an arm, but 172 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:55.960 I couldn't clarify. So all I know is a human limb. 173 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.120 Okay, do you remember me because I've been to New 174 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:03.600 York once coming back and telling you about like the garbage. 175 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:06.799 I think so, because I can actually. 176 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:09.360 Vividly remember, like it was like night, I'm walking down 177 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:11.960 the street and and the restaurants and just I don't 178 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:13.480 know if it's still like that, but they just had 179 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:15.840 like their bags just kind of on the side of 180 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:17.759 the sidewalk, like so much garbage. 181 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.039 Yeah, and then collection comes around grabs a bags on 182 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:20.440 the truck. 183 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.200 I don't know, but I was just like, oh, because 184 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:25.879 our city isn't really like that at all. Like our garbage, 185 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:27.960 I guess, is a bit more contained. 186 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.000 I guess you could say, well, in a big city 187 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.639 like that, it's really hard to just have city garbage cans. 188 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:36.000 Well totally, yeah, so I get it. But I just 189 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:38.840 I'm like walking down the street now and I can 190 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:39.799 picture this. 191 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:45.519 Yeah, yeah, well, I say, can you picture an arm 192 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:46.679 thrown in that pile? Too? 193 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:51.159 No? Thank goodness, that's a good thing. Now. 194 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:54.759 The authorities, of course, searched the trash pile, and they 195 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.320 began searching other trash piles up and down the street, 196 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.200 because that's exactly what it was. Just like you're talking 197 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:02.120 about on the side walk, piles of trash bags just 198 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:04.320 waiting for collection that morning. It's not like it's just 199 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:08.320 like garbage just strewn about it. It's a pile. They're 200 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.679 gonna be collected in a few hours sort of thing. Yeah. Absolutely, Now, 201 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:15.519 what they found were the remains of a woman. Piece 202 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:19.759 by piece. They found her hacked and cut pieces scattered 203 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:24.080 in get garbage bags across multiple piles. They found her 204 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.519 decapitated head, her right leg, torso and hands and arms. 205 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:29.440 Oh wow. 206 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:33.559 All of her remains were found within the same area 207 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.840 around Eagle Avenue, one fifty eighth Street, one fifty sixth Street, 208 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:42.240 and Caldwell Avenue. The dismembered body and remains, some of 209 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:45.559 which were still wearing the clothing articles that the individual 210 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.759 was slain in, would soon be identified as a forty 211 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:52.120 five year old woman by the name of Tanya Bird. 212 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:55.720 That's brutal. So they kind of seemed like they went 213 00:10:55.759 --> 00:11:00.759 about trying to hide this, but they did arable job. 214 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.200 Yeah. They were hoping that the body would just get 215 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.759 thrown out with the garbage, and I mean it clearly didn't. 216 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:09.759 Well, they went to the length of at least I guess, 217 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:12.200 going around putting it in different piles. 218 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:15.200 They did, but still all within about one block. 219 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:16.879 Huh. 220 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:19.440 So it doesn't really it didn't go very far. 221 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:23.159 Yeah. But also that is so sad too that you're 222 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:25.200 like take someone's life and then you're. 223 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:28.600 Just out with the trash, like with the garbage. Yeah. 224 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:29.840 Oh gosh. 225 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:31.960 Now I do want to say, like, can you literally 226 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.279 imagine just walking your dog one morning and just oh, 227 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:34.919 human arm. 228 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.200 That's honestly a worst night mare of mine. 229 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:38.120 Is it really? 230 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:40.360 Oh yeah, I freak. 231 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.879 I think about sometimes or dogs finding something that I 232 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:44.000 would not want them to find. 233 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.399 I mean, they've come back with like bones and stuff before, 234 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.000 but it's usually like because. 235 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:50.080 We're in like a moost or deep. 236 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:51.799 Yeah, we're out in the country and it's like there's 237 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:55.360 hunters around that, like they throw discard from up a 238 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:57.440 game kill, you know, when the bush once in a while, 239 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.840 and they come back with like a bone that's been 240 00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:01.679 there for a year or two and keep it. 241 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.919 Question, do you ever examine what they find and would 242 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.919 you know if it was something other than a wild animal? 243 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:13.639 Usually yeah, because it's generally very obvious that it's like, oh, 244 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:16.000 that's a big ass bone that's from a moose or something. 245 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:19.320 Okay, yeah, No, you're right, because thinking about it, I'm like, shit, 246 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:22.639 I don't really examine the bones, but yeah, they're usually 247 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:24.000 generally quite a bit bigger. 248 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:29.720 Yeah. Now, this woman, Tanya Bird, who is found she 249 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:33.080 had been dismembered and stuffed inside several separate heavy duty 250 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.039 garbage bags and added to the piles. But even within 251 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.320 those garbage bags, she was then stuffed inside multiple Duffel 252 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.879 bags as well, and of course dispersed for disposabal on 253 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:48.639 the disposal on the piles, so police soon contacted Tanya's family. 254 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.200 They also found that her son, Beside McLean, had reported 255 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.879 her missing at the precinct in the Bronx just the 256 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.159 day prior. He told police about how he hadn't been 257 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.279 able to contact his mother for at least the day, 258 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.120 which was very unusual for her. See, Tanya had another 259 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:07.480 son who was six years old and had down syndrome. 260 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:10.320 She was always making sure that she provided the care 261 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:14.639 that she needed for him, and that's what she lived for, 262 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.080 That's what she did. She was to be there for 263 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:20.559 her son and taking care of him. Now, the son 264 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.759 the authorities were talking with besied continue to tell them 265 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.759 everything he knew, including how a former boyfriend of his 266 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.519 mother's dropped by on Monday and that this was the 267 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.840 last time that he saw her to quote him quote 268 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.600 he came over yesterday and walked out with her in 269 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:41.600 the morning yesterday morning. Tanya's sister, Cassandra believed that her 270 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:47.120 sister's allegedly abusive ex boyfriend was responsible for the horrific 271 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.600 murder and dismemberment of Tanya. 272 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.120 Okay, can I ask a question quickly. Is that the 273 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:53.399 same boyfriend that the sun? 274 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:58.639 Yes? Okay, yeah, And to quote Cassandra, Tanya's sister quote, 275 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:00.879 I told my sister to stay away from him, but 276 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.120 she said he's harmless and not to worry. 277 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:04.960 Oh, he sounds like bad news. 278 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.200 Cassandra also described her sister as a loving mother and 279 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.480 being very devoted to her son and his needs. He 280 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:14.919 was the joy in her life. 281 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.879 Oh man child. 282 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:21.879 Basid also provided photographs of his mother from his phone 283 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.960 to police. This helped them able to confirm that Tanya 284 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.799 was in fact the victim they found because they were 285 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:32.879 looking at missing reports along with the decapitated head they 286 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:36.480 found and now linking it with the photo he provided. 287 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:39.440 And at first of what seems that the family was 288 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.399 willing to help and find Tanya in any way that 289 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.039 they could. I mean, he's showing photos. There was a 290 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:47.240 missing report, right, they did, They did all they could. 291 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:50.279 They're talking with officers in regards to whatever questions they 292 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:52.840 ask and everything. But something was standing out for the 293 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.720 officers from the moment that they actually stepped in to 294 00:14:56.799 --> 00:14:59.600 their home and began talking to him. You see the 295 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.879 home reeked of bleach. 296 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:10.279 Oh no, yeah, okay, oh right, away, you would just 297 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:11.759 be like the fuck. 298 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:18.360 Yep, Oh no, So you have someone who's dismembered. 299 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.440 Which would be a brutal mess. 300 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.120 And what do you use to clean up blood? 301 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:25.240 Bleach? 302 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:29.480 Bleach. So they walk into the home where she lived 303 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:34.639 and they're saying, oh, yeah, she went missing yesterday. We 304 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.360 don't know what happened to her. Maybe this guy we're 305 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.440 going to offer you a person to look into. While 306 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.480 you're standing here being like, uh huh, why the fuck 307 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:44.639 does smell like bleach. 308 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:47.720 In your gosh? Because like sometimes, i mean, some people 309 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:52.159 still use bleach for like their laundry and oh and everything, 310 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:55.679 but it's it's not a super common smell that you're 311 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.960 that you would just notice going into someone's house, or 312 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:01.279 it would be like pretty faint or whatever, like you know, 313 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:02.759 they're just using a bit of bleach. 314 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:04.360 Yeah, when you use a little bit of bleach in 315 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:06.480 your laundry or if you're cleaning up your counter or 316 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:08.919 something like that, you're not using like a gallon of 317 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.120 fucking bleach to make your whole house smell like it 318 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.919 unless you used it like five minutes earlier. But usually 319 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:17.679 it's like a little spray bottle or something like that. 320 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:19.440 You're just cleaning up a little bit or like you say, 321 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:21.039 a little bit in your laundry, things like that. 322 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:22.799 Ah. 323 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.279 But even still many people, and I believe this was 324 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.159 an apartment complex, they wouldn't have laundry in their. 325 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:30.080 Unit, right, brutal. 326 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.799 Now the investigation into the home, of course, quickly began. 327 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.000 They now had warrants because I mean, this is where 328 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.120 she lived. She's dead, so it's like we need to 329 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:41.240 search her fucking home, right, So as they were looking 330 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:47.080 for evidence and the whole home, they they certainly found evidence, 331 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.080 They found the equipment that was used to carve up 332 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:55.039 Tanya's body, and eventually they even found some extremely gruesome 333 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.320 photos on Besieed's phone. 334 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:02.039 What the shit the sun is? That the sun? 335 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:06.160 That's the sun? So while executing a search warrant and 336 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:09.920 searching his phone, they found images where Basid had posed 337 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:16.079 and taken selfies with his own mother's lifeless and dismembered body. 338 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:19.119 One in particular, he was posing in front of a 339 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:20.920 bathroom mirror. You know how you like take a selfie 340 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:24.400 in a bathroom mirror, right, He was doing that while 341 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.440 holding up the bloody head of his mother like a trophy. 342 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:33.240 His decapitated mother's head. He's holding it up and using 343 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:36.319 his phone to snap a photo as a keepsake. 344 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.440 What the actual fuck? 345 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:40.319 Yeah, is he okay? 346 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.759 Like, uh uh, I don't think I can ever take 347 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:44.720 a selfie again. 348 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:47.279 Well, the worst part here in the photo you can 349 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.680 see he's got a smirk on his face while. 350 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.160 Posing and he killed his mom. 351 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:58.000 Yeah, the holy shit. The smirk though, is the most 352 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.839 disturbing factor to me particular. I mean, of course, don't 353 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:03.559 get me wrong, he's holding up a decapitated head of 354 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.519 his mother, but he's fucking smirking at the same time. 355 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:12.839 Oh man, yeah, that ik. There has to be something 356 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.240 like I'm wondering wrong with him well, or like he 357 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:18.920 has something. 358 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.559 We'll we'll get into some of this stuff, don't worry. 359 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.400 But now this is where some rumors have floated around 360 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:28.599 online regarding this case, and this is where that hook 361 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:33.240 lured me in. Okay, So, allegedly Beside had taken this 362 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.279 selfie and posted it online to one of his social 363 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:40.880 media platforms even before police were ever involved. So typically 364 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:42.960 people say that the platform he posted it was on 365 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:45.200 Facebook or something because only friends and family saw it. 366 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:49.440 So there someone immediately saw the photo and reported it, 367 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:53.319 and Facebook took the photo down for violence, and that 368 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.440 is how he got caught. Some version of the story 369 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:59.839 state that the authorities never actually saw the unblurred version 370 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:04.480 of the photo, because the blurred version is readily available online, 371 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:06.079 Like right now, you can go look it up and 372 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.440 it's blurred. You cannot see ahead whatsoever, but you can 373 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.720 clearly see him, see him, he's holding something up and 374 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:12.880 you can see thet. 375 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:14.799 It's actually his mom's. 376 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.119 Head, it is. But some say that police were never 377 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:21.319 able to see the unblurred version because Facebook deleted it 378 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:25.759 so fast. Regardless of this version, I'm pretty sure that 379 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.640 those claims are false. I could not find any article 380 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:33.480 or evidence that alleged the photo had been posted online. 381 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.400 The only reports that I have found are where the 382 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:40.440 authorities find the images on his phone. So this is 383 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.279 where I was lured in because I was like, holy shit, 384 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.160 someone like decapitate their mother and posted photos to Facebook 385 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.480 sort of thing. That's false. He did those things. He 386 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.319 did take the photo, but posting it online, as far 387 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:52.799 as I can tell, never happened. 388 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:57.799 Okay, I mean it's still like next level what he did. 389 00:19:57.920 --> 00:19:59.799 Oh yeah, no, don't get me wrong. It's fucked. 390 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:02.519 Could you imagine that's the way that you would find 391 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:05.720 out that like a loved one or friend had died. Oh, man, 392 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:08.160 I don't know if your life would ever be the 393 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.480 same after if that had been the truth. 394 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.039 I don't think so. You just see a photo of 395 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:16.920 your loved one's head being held, Oh. 396 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:19.799 Oh my gosh by their son. I'm like, this case 397 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:21.680 is like mortifying. 398 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:24.319 Oh it is. Now you understand why I captured my 399 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:29.079 attention so fast on them? Yeah, so besied though moving on, 400 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:31.559 he was let out of the house in handcuffs. Of course. 401 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:35.119