WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:05.679 Oh that's our. 2 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.799 Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Occult 3 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:53.200 of Conspiracy. And my name's Jonathan, I'm job and today 4 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:57.920 we got the good cult member Luke. Welcome to the show. Brother. Hello, Hello, 5 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:02.000 we are excited this one. You. Uh, you reached out 6 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:04.680 to us and you were like, yo, got some ideas 7 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.599 for a show, and one thing led to another and 8 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:09.519 here we are. I know that we're gonna be talking 9 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:12.840 about a bunch of wild things today, but uh, what 10 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:16.560 what exactly is like your main interest on this on 11 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:17.439 this evening. 12 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.599 So one of my main things is, uh, I've I've 13 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:25.799 looked at a lot of things that people from the 14 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:28.680 flat Earth side has said, and yes, they do bring 15 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:33.359 up a lot of interesting information, but my issue has 16 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:37.560 always been that they don't ever bring a physics based 17 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.079 side to it. So, like, if you want to argue science, 18 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:46.719 you have to argue with science. You have to back 19 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:49.719 up the information you're giving. You give what I'm saying, like, 20 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:54.400 you're not You're not gonna have a good defense if 21 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:58.319 you're just saying, well, it's flat because just look at it. 22 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.400 Yeah, I've heard a lot of people in the flat 23 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:03.959 earth community and again, this is not me yes, I 24 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.480 am the resident globe card. I get that. So when 25 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.159 I say what I'm about to say to all the 26 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:10.680 flat earthers out there, please this is not throwing shade. 27 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:15.199 But typically it's like, well, if you can't prove your 28 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.039 point and I can't prove my point and they can't 29 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:19.159 sell each other out, then boom I win. And it's like, 30 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:24.719 that's not how like you said, it's not a good defense, right, And. 31 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:30.240 I like, I'm in agreeance with mainly you when you 32 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:34.680 say that, Like they they bring up good topics of debate, 33 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:39.120 of things that do need to be brought, not necessarily 34 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:44.240 into light, but into the conversation of well, why exactly 35 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:48.319 is this? And you know, give me a decent answer, 36 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.759 don't just like guess, show it to me with an equation. 37 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:56.159 But don't show me with just an equation, you know 38 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:59.319 what I mean? Physical application right, Like there there is 39 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:04.080 always a observation aspect of any part of science. 40 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:10.599 It's just how it is. But with that, I so. 41 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:17.960 My life has always been a mechanical side along with 42 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:24.599 a more questioning side of things. So like, uh, I 43 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.599 spent my whole life working on cars. That was the 44 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:30.319 first thing I ever did. I can honestly say I 45 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:33.400 turned a wrench before I ever turned a coherent thought. 46 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:37.479 What is your premier type of vehicle you like working on. 47 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.879 I guess really just like high performance cars. So like 48 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:48.240 we had drag raced for a long time. So we 49 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.319 had a sixty seven ranch Era that had a four 50 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:52.520 to sixty big block in it. 51 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:54.520 Night just set up. 52 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.280 All that had uh full tub in the back. Yeah, 53 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.000 so it was, uh, it was a fun time. 54 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:01.919 The only reason I'm asking is because if you were 55 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:03.879 about to say, like Honda Civics, I would have been like, oh, 56 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:06.120 so that's your type of autism. I feel you, But 57 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:07.840 like you know what I'm saying them jackcars, you have 58 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:09.879 to have a level of autism to really get into 59 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.520 the works on that. You're talking about the big body 60 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.960 American muscle from the mid sixties to mid seventies. I 61 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:17.480 feel you. You like to be able to get to 62 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:18.680 the component you're working on. 63 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:23.720 Oh yeah, and I'm not knocking the four cylinder stuff, 64 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:27.240 like you can make power out of it. You just 65 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.079 have to do it the right way the ways that 66 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:32.279 those motors like doing, you know, like. 67 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:34.959 It's impressing what they're able to make. Those rice burners do, 68 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.879 and I'm not knocking it. I just personally hate working 69 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:38.600 on hondas. 70 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.319 Oh yeah. Like one of my favorite events to go 71 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.120 to is it's up in Maryland. It's called Import Socialis 72 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:48.120 Domestics and great time and you can see some hondas 73 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.560 absolutely fly, absolutely fly. 74 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:53.879 Yeah. It's just a pain of the ass to work 75 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:54.120 on them. 76 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.959 But it's all I'm saying, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, But 77 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:05.680 it kind of developed my interest into learning how things worked, 78 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:10.279 and it just further developed over time of like you know, 79 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:15.680 going from the mechanical aspect, going more towards physics, more 80 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.240 in depth with actual science stuff like that of just 81 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:23.399 I guess, understanding how everything works, or at least trying to. 82 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.560 And then when I ended up getting a job at 83 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.839 the naval shipyard that we have over here, I ended 84 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:37.120 up getting into NDT, which is non destructive testing, and 85 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:44.079 that furthered my I guess you could say education on magnetism, 86 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:51.879 on radiography, on ultrasound, on eddie current, on liquid theories. 87 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:55.360 I'm trying to think. 88 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.360 Fluid mechanics so to spraak, right, yeah, And. 89 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.120 I would say that that helped me out a lot too, 90 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:08.040 because even though it's a further in depth of the 91 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:13.279 theories into these I guess branches of science. It it 92 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.399 really lays a foundation of understanding how a lot of 93 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:23.040 things work in general. But having that knowledge, having the 94 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:25.800 like I don't get me wrong, I hate math. I 95 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:31.759 hate math absolutely. I like whenever math is applicable. So 96 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:34.399 when I can use it to figure out something that 97 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:37.519 like I'm doing, and I can actually use it without 98 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:42.000 having to do some stupid worksheet like in you know, school, 99 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:46.000 I like it. Yeah, you know, I guess you could say, 100 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:51.959 like I'm actually getting fulfillment out of it, So it 101 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.399 just works better like that. Like I liked the chemistry 102 00:06:55.839 --> 00:07:01.040 even to this day, Like the car industry has a 103 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:03.800 lot more aspects of it than what most people would understand. 104 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:06.399 Like there is a whole lot of physics that go 105 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.839 into it. There's a whole lot of chemistry that goes 106 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:09.360 into it. 107 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:12.480 So tell you what a good example of that. Have 108 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:16.079 you ever seen the movie Ford versus Ferrari and how 109 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:18.600 they they were or Shelby Versus Ferrari. I think it 110 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.959 was they would build a little Shelby. Yes, the amount 111 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:25.920 of physics and engineering that went into trying to build 112 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:29.040 a vehicle that could beat Ferrari at their own game. 113 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:32.959 It was mind blowing. In yes, Matt Damon and Christian 114 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.720 Bale did their characters and did their roles, but when 115 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.759 you look at the story itself and every little bit 116 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:40.839 and component and how they were trying to drop weight 117 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.639 but to increase strength and increase torque and I'm with 118 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:45.759 you one hundred percent. 119 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:49.800 Man and aerodynamics going into it, Like a lot of 120 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:53.439 people don't understand how engineered some cars are. For for example, 121 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.120 the Selina S seven that they have, that car actually 122 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.199 creates so much downforce at its top speed that it 123 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:03.759 can actually turnover and drive on the ceiling like upside down. 124 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:06.519 That's how much downforce it creates. 125 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:07.240 Wow. 126 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.160 So there is there's physics and everything. 127 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:15.920 So I decide I ended up watching the movie on 128 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.319 or documentary on Netflix that I was telling you about 129 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:24.199 the The Beyond the Curve, and I was watching it 130 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:27.360 because I was told or I read that like they 131 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:31.199 brought up some interesting like topics of debate for flat 132 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.120 earthers and stuff like that. I was like, no, they 133 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:35.720 After watching it, I'm gonna be honest, like, there's not 134 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:38.960 really that much like core information that you can gather 135 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.360 out of it, but looking at what the physicists were 136 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:48.039 saying in there, it kind of really irked me a 137 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:51.600 lot because they were basically trying to say this, you know, 138 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:55.759 group which it might have developed into being this, but 139 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:59.279 they were trying to say that, you know, they argue 140 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:02.320 these things, they you know, group themselves together like this 141 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.759 because they're lonely. That was basically like the basis of 142 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:06.600 their whole statement. 143 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:10.159 And I'm like, wait, they said the physicists were. 144 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:15.000 The physicians said that the flat earthers were doing basically 145 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.240 this whole movement because they're fucking lonely. 146 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:21.679 Okay, so they were just being haters and throwing shape right. 147 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:24.360 Right, And we hear that kind of jargon in the 148 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:29.240 conspiracy realm altogether. I've had people that disagree with every 149 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:31.919 conspiracy I'm like, how do you disagree with every single 150 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.679 one of them? But whatever, they disagree with every single 151 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:40.440 conspiracy theory, and they try and you know, almost like 152 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:43.679 try and understand my mind as to why I'm so 153 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.120 attracted to these things, and it's like, Yo, this isn't 154 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.320 a fucking like science project. I'm telling you that there 155 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:53.200 is a lot of stuff into the stuff that we 156 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:56.799 look into and you know, it's just some people have 157 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.679 they're living in different worlds. I think it's really what 158 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:03.200 it is is it's like it's like they they take 159 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:06.279 I don't know, like they're just sad for us in 160 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.759 some kind of way, and I don't appreciate that. Like 161 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.200 I'm just like, don't look down on me. You think 162 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.639 I'm like stupid or something. That's why I believe in it. No, 163 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.840 it's actually the opposite. I'm actually using my brain to 164 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.120 look at a lot of these things and not just 165 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:20.559 being you know, led blindly. 166 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:23.840 I forget what comedian it was, but he it wasn't 167 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:26.200 like a long joke, but he was like, so, y'all, 168 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:29.360 they're the people that are throwing the shit on conspiracy theories. 169 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:32.440 You're telling me you don't believe in one conspiracy. You're 170 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:35.240 telling me the government has been one hundred percent honest, 171 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.440 one hundred percent of the time. Really, like, I honestly, 172 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.080 there's no fucking way that's a true statement. And yeah, 173 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:42.879 one hundred percent. 174 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:45.919 And that's what As far as uh people in the 175 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.240 science community that have the education and have the knowledge 176 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.799 and have the access to the you know, further in 177 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.840 depth information, I'm gonna be straight up, I think that 178 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:01.399 I'm not gonna say it was the education system that 179 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.720 gave them this point of view, but I really do 180 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:09.759 feel like they have a very straight line path that 181 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.519 they typically take, and I'm going to be straight up 182 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:15.480 with calling it out on it. There's a problem with that. 183 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:21.679 It's like like looking at equation as if A plus 184 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:25.919 B equals C, then you know typical equation. Well, the 185 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.399 issue is is they never look to see what D is. 186 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:33.240 That's a problem if you're not checking it. If there's 187 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:37.120 a variable that you don't know about but it is applicable, 188 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:39.720 and say like later on down the road we find 189 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:44.559 out about that variable, well, you know, your complete beginning 190 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:48.480 equation doesn't equate to the same amount, even though we 191 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:51.440 thought that that's how it was. I mean, science is 192 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:56.559 ever evolving. But that's the issue is they unless it's 193 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.440 somebody that has some kind of degree, they don't want 194 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:07.240 to hear it. That's a big issue with me. You 195 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:11.320 talk about like the beginning philosophers that we had that 196 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.960 laid down the foundation of most of the math that 197 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:19.600 we take today. They didn't have a fucking degree, Like, yeah, 198 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:24.039 they had time to put into this, but we replaced 199 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:28.000 that with our access to knowledge. So just because somebody 200 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.000 doesn't have a degree, it doesn't mean they're not fucking smart. 201 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:34.559 I mean we hear stories every day of people doing 202 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:38.240 some crazy ass shit that they have figured out how 203 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:44.200 to do, literally because of YouTube. Education isn't one hundred 204 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:48.759 percent it all the time, and I will be bringing 205 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:53.120 up examples of that as well. So the way I 206 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:58.279 kind of tried to org excuse me, organize this was 207 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:02.080 going into the history at first of like how the 208 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:09.240 models developed, and then going into basically the the main 209 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:14.879 idea of gravity, going into Newton's laws, going into Einstein's 210 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:24.240 going into let's see things on the atomic level, going 211 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.759 into dimensions, just dimensions a little bit. I do have 212 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:32.879 some little like fun fact type of things in here, and. 213 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:35.159 I did try to. 214 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.960 Make it a little bit interactive as well, because I'm 215 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.159 gonna be honest, and I think everybody can agree science 216 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:44.759 is boring as fuck for the most part. So the 217 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:47.240 it's kind of like being in class again, you know, 218 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:48.840 if you want to actually pay attention, you got to 219 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.600 make it a little bit interactive, which one of the 220 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.320 dimensions thing is in there. So I think a lot 221 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:58.600 of people, especially on the spiritual side will like this 222 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.919 little thing I'm gonna do, but we'll see what happens. 223 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:06.679 But it's starting. 224 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:09.759 With history, you know, starting with the religions. It's amazing 225 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.960 to see how many religions basically across the board originally 226 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:19.279 had a not just a flat earth model, but a 227 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.960 model that aligned with so many other different religions. Like 228 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:27.399 you have Sumerians, of course, the Babylonians after them, and 229 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:31.600 Assyrians after them, but the Egyptians, the Abrahamic religions, you 230 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:37.159 have Greek religions, Norse, Vedic, Hindu, Chinese religions of the 231 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.120 different types they had, and not just that, but individual 232 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:47.080 indigenous tribes all across the world that had a similar 233 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:51.360 flat earth model that was made of various different ways 234 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:55.120 of however, like one god killed another and they fell 235 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:56.320 and they became the land. 236 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:58.360 I will be honest. 237 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.039 The Babylonian one is a little bit gross because he 238 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:06.600 cut the other god up to make the firmament, which 239 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:11.320 is a little gross, but either way, they they have 240 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:16.799 a flat earth, but with a firmament based idea. And 241 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:21.039 it's just it's crazy that even back then, like people 242 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:25.679 were matching with the same exact stories with basically how 243 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.279 they how they viewed the world at that point in time. 244 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:34.080 But after that, around six hundred BC, you have a 245 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:39.080 guy that is named uh an ex Mander some of 246 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:40.679 the names, it's going to be hard to pronounce, but 247 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.600 sure he was the first one to start kind of 248 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:47.639 trying to give it more of a shape other than 249 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.240 being flat. He uh kind of tried to say it 250 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.240 was a little bit cylindrical. After that, it gets more 251 00:15:54.240 --> 00:16:00.600 into uh Pythagoras, which he's a very interesting character to 252 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.799 get into, like the idea that he might not have 253 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.320 even been real to begin with, and that it was 254 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.559 just his group that was, you know, saying that he 255 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.480 said these things or wrote these things or whatever. But 256 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:19.000 I'm sure that's a whole whole different subject you can 257 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:24.279 get into with that. But he suggested his spherical earth, 258 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:32.120 and then Plato he still favored the sphere, but he 259 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:35.480 due to the times, he's still more aligned with more 260 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:40.440 of a flat earth type thing. Aristotle favor the sphere. 261 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.000 He also was arguing that it was spherical because of 262 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:51.279 the shadows cast by the moon. Aristophanes calculated the circumference 263 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:54.480 by comparing angles of the Sun at two different spots, 264 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.600 which I mean, for that was around two hundred and 265 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:01.200 seventy BC. That's kind of smart to do. Honestly. 266 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.119 People think that because they were the ancients that they 267 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:09.559 didn't have the intelligence that we have today. Absolutely not. 268 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:12.599 They were figuring out algebra by drawing in the dirt 269 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:16.160 with their fingers and calculating stars to figure out what 270 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:18.480 we would now call calculus. You know what I mean. 271 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:20.880 It was insane. Now, I'm not saying every single human 272 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:26.119 being of the ancients was to that level the right, right, 273 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:29.200 I mean, most of them couldn't read. But the ones 274 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:31.480 that were, and the ones that were of that intelligence 275 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:35.480 level absolutely were geniuses by any other metric. 276 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.880 You know, Luke, just out of curiosity, are you trying 277 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:41.680 to debunk flat Earth today? 278 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:45.880 No, I am trying to say that both sides are wrong. 279 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:50.039 Oh shit, all right, i'd say I like to hear. 280 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:55.039 Yeah, And when we get past the historical side, I 281 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:58.799 actually I want to get I'm gonna ask both of 282 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:00.519 the other question because I want to get a general 283 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:06.400 idea of y'all's idea on what gravity is itself? 284 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.119 Oh okay, you know, I actually I'm already on your side. 285 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:15.839 I disagree with both of the round and the flat 286 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.599 I've been saying this for forever. I you know, changed 287 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.519 my models from time to time, but I've just accepted, Dude, 288 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:23.720 this fucking life is nothing but a dream, bro, and 289 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.000 so like, is there even any form to a dream? 290 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:26.400 Anyway? 291 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:27.640 What are we arguing about? 292 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:31.519 Right right? And that's why I think, well, we'll we'll, 293 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.559 We'll get to that in a second. So the pull 294 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:39.240 me around one hundred BC came up with the epicycles 295 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:44.240 for the celestial bodies, uh, suggesting that they had circular 296 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:48.720 orbits as well. So it's sphircle with circular orbits of 297 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:52.240 like the moon and what whatever else they could observe 298 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.440 in the sky. At the time, that model itself lasted 299 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:57.480 for a long time, all the way from one hundred 300 00:18:57.519 --> 00:18:58.200 BC to. 301 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:01.920 Four teen seventy a d. 302 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:06.279 So basically nobody at the time wanted to be like, yeah, 303 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:10.799 you were wrong. So fourteen seventy is whenever Copernicus came 304 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:15.359 in and decided to propose the heliocentric idea. After that 305 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.480 you have Galilet supporting this argue by the phases of 306 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:21.519 Venus at the time that they were able to deserve. 307 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.920 And then Kepler came in with the laws of planetary motion. 308 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:31.519 Then finally we get Newton coming in with the laws 309 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:38.920 of motion and universal gravity. Also one interesting thing, one 310 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:43.200 little fun fact, I guess you could say, so you 311 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:48.960 know how the Pythagoreans just liked very neat numbers. They 312 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:55.480 killed a guy because of his proposition of irrational numbers 313 00:19:56.039 --> 00:20:01.680 basically meaning circles. They kicked him out of their brotherhood 314 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:03.920 and then they drowned him. 315 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:06.680 Yeah, if anybody has never heard of the Number cult 316 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.799 of Pythagorean followers, it is a very interesting deep dive 317 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:14.519 to look into. You had to go into a was it. 318 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.799 You had to be silent for at least a year 319 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:21.200 before you could even be thought of as an initiate, 320 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:23.000 and then it was like a seven year process to 321 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:25.119 be a part of the Number cult. They had to 322 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:27.559 make sure that you were like really about that life. 323 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:29.880 So to say, they kicked a guy out and then 324 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:32.240 killed him because of his ideas about Circle's brother I 325 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:34.680 believe that one hundred percent they were what we would 326 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:35.680 call extremists. 327 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:37.480 Yeah, big circles, big scary. 328 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:41.200 It's all about Big Circle at least don't want you 329 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:43.359 to know this, but they're trying to hold back Big. 330 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:43.960 Circle from him. 331 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:50.680 So the guy's name was Hipassus Hypostas. It was around 332 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:54.240 five hundred BC. Either way, Yeah, they killed him because 333 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:55.160 circles are scary. 334 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:59.839 Then Archimedes came in and didn't he die while drawing 335 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:01.400 circles as a matter of fact. 336 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:04.519 Oh yeah, that's not I knowing this information. Now, that 337 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:06.000 sounds really suspicious. 338 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:10.200 Well, his city was under siege and Archimedes had actually 339 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.200 built a bunch of war machines and shit, and once 340 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:15.480 eventually his city siege like fell and they were being conquered. 341 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:17.640 He was in the middle of drawing circles and doing 342 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:21.079 his stuff. The soldiers came in to take over everyone. 343 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:24.480 As they did, his last words were, don't touch my circles. 344 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:28.039 They were like stepping on his art in the dirt 345 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:30.000 that he was making, because he, I think was also 346 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:32.680 at that level of autism where like he's hyper focused 347 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.519 on what he's doing. Dudes with swords just barged into 348 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:37.799 your door. Don't touch my fucking circles. Dude, be ahead 349 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:39.519 of him right off the bat. But I mean, you know, 350 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:42.160 he he died by the numbers man. He was about 351 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:42.720 that life. 352 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:47.200 So why is it that they disagreed with the circle 353 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.440 so much the Pythagorans. 354 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:51.799 Because they were an irrational number and they were all 355 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:53.359 about neat whole numbers. 356 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:58.559 He could could argue, it's kind of like a numerical OCD. Yeah, 357 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:01.640 even though for some reason they like were okay with 358 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.160 imaginary numbers. 359 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:07.039 Yeah, but like the whole number curvature in general, Well, 360 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.880 the whole number is three hundred and sixty is a circle, right, 361 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:10.680 that's a whole number. 362 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:16.559 But it's more like the like three point one four. Hi, Yeah, 363 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:20.079 that is an irrational number. And they did not jive 364 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:21.359 with these things. Oh. 365 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:23.839 They didn't like decimals and fractions and shit is what 366 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:24.319 you're saying. 367 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.720 Right, So the Pythagora theme that we all earned in 368 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.559 school was about the triangles, right, It was about these 369 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:32.599 hard angles and hard lines and these things. And they 370 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:35.920 understood circles, yes, But to say that you were using 371 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:39.079 some sort of irrational number to guess tomate the circumference 372 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:45.680 of was like, just compute sacrilege, yes, per their religious beliefs, 373 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:46.319 one hundred percent. 374 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:48.880 Yeah, you get that curvature out of here, that's right, 375 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.880 all right. So the quick question, well not quick, depending 376 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:53.920 on how far y'all want to go into it. What 377 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:59.359 is both of y'all's maybe not either idea or understanding 378 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:01.279 of what gravity is. 379 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:07.880 Jonathan, you wanna go first, be my guess, sir. Personally, 380 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:12.400 I am of the belief that gravity would be whenever 381 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:15.319 an object has mass to it, it has its own 382 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:17.279 form of gravity to it as well. That's kind of 383 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:21.799 a property of mass. Now, how much gravity a object 384 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:24.039 has has a lot to do with the mass of 385 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:27.799 the object. For instance, an object that weighs one thousand 386 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:30.839 tons is going to have more gravity than an object 387 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.559 that weighs one hundred pounds. When you have something that 388 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:36.079 is the size of an entire planet, it has its 389 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:40.039 own gravitational pull within itself. This would be the force 390 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:45.039 that holds us down. Now, weight and density are not gravity, 391 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.279 but at the same time they are properties of right, 392 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.440 So what tells us how much something weighs on Earth 393 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:54.759 as opposed to how much something weighs on Jupiter? If 394 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.119 we are in fact, I believe that space is not faking, Gay, 395 00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.480 I understand that I'm love the belief that it is real, 396 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.799 But that would be because Jupiter, although it's a gas giant, 397 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.000 it is also a massive planet, which with a heavier 398 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:10.839 gravitational poll. Meanwhile, Venus, being a smaller planet, has a 399 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:14.599 less gravitational poll. So on the planet that to which 400 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.720 we live, when you have mass, it gets pulled at 401 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.359 a certain degree if you will, or a certain weight 402 00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:22.839 to it, and that is what holds us down. 403 00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:26.920 Very well, very well. I actually used to be a 404 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:31.359 lot more opinionated on opinionated on this topic than I am. Now, 405 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.319 you know, I used to make the argument for density, 406 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:38.400 and that's what was holding us down. To be honest, 407 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.599 I'm just gonna be open. I really don't know, Like 408 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:44.319 I just don't know. Like you could say it's gravity, sure, 409 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:46.920 but even gravity is still a theory, like it's a 410 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.519 working theory and people accept it to be true, but 411 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.480 it is still a theory because it's actually if it's 412 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.599 still a theory, that means it can't be proven, right. 413 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.599 So that's what a theory actually is, is something that 414 00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.559 like you know, you and put it into a formula 415 00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:03.920 and it does make sense, but you don't know why, 416 00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:07.160 you don't know how, and you just accept it for 417 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:08.880 what it is. You can call it gravity, you can 418 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:11.039 call it butt fucking for all I care, But there's 419 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:14.440 definitely something that is keeping our feet on the ground. 420 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.839 Call it gravity, I don't care. That's that's how I 421 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:18.359 look at it. 422 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.039 Okay, So just based off of Jacobs because it's a 423 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:26.480 little bit more easy to identify it. So yours would 424 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:32.640 be considered a Newtonian idea of gravity. Would you agree 425 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:32.920 with that? 426 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:35.559 I guess. But at the same time, it's not like 427 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:37.599 Newton had all the answers to it, you know what 428 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:39.720 I mean, Like an object is less dense and water, 429 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:41.640 which is why it gets to a buoyancy point instead 430 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.480 of going all the way down. Newton himself drank himself 431 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.559 to death with mercury. So when like he was some 432 00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:48.920 sort of a you know, inherent genius, he had a 433 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.240 couple of ideas that we would now call the basics 434 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:52.160 of the laws of physics. 435 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:55.920 Yeah, here's my question though, you know, I was just 436 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.920 thinking about this because clearly there is something, there's a 437 00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:02.839 reason why we all go down right like our feet 438 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.799 or we're not floating, we're not levitating, we're not flying, 439 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:10.359 We're always just on the ground. And maybe that's electromagnetism, 440 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.759 maybe that's density or or you want to call it 441 00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:18.519 gravity or whatever. But you know, the thing where I 442 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.119 get hung up on? Is that all right? If gravity 443 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.559 is such a strong and powerful force, how are we 444 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:28.240 even how are we even able to jump in the air? 445 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:32.279 How are planes in the helicopters not being pulled down 446 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:36.839 by this extreme power that we call gravity? Why is 447 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:40.119 it that gravity stops whenever our feet are on the ground. 448 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:41.799 Why doesn't it keep on pulling us to the center 449 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:42.480 of the Earth's core? 450 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:43.319 You know? 451 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.279 Like and those are kind of questions that I have. 452 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.559 Maybe they're scientific reason, I don't know. But why does 453 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.960 the gravity stop at the ground level? Is my question? 454 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:54.960 Why doesn't it just keep pulling us? 455 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:53.160 But it. 456 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.799 Okay, if you dig a hole, you can still get 457 00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.880 into the hole. It's not like gravity stops at seal 458 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.240 or stops at you know, the level of whatever the 459 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.200 Earth is more dense than our. 460 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:09.400 Body right here. Your body has the human body was 461 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:13.759 either made or adapted at whatever you consider to be 462 00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:18.920 able to not necessarily overcome, but to combat the effects 463 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.160 of gravity. Kind of like how like deep sea creatures 464 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.000 whenever they come to the surface, they die because their 465 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:28.720 body is not used to that amount. 466 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.960 Of pressure or that lack of pressure. 467 00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:35.960 Well, yeah, yeah, right, Or saying if most animals that 468 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.880 die of old age in the ocean. It's actually because 469 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.920 they can't swim that well anymore, so they kind of 470 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.599 just start sinking and they can't control their float bladder. 471 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.279 So it's basically the pressure kills them before they actually 472 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.119 themselves die. 473 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.759 Right. But then there's other fish that do live at 474 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.440 that depth and at that pressure because their bodies have 475 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:01.680 been adapt to do so I'm with you one hundred percent. 476 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:06.160 I guess the light whales that can traverse both, right, 477 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:07.119 I heard that. 478 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.279 Well, you know, my thing is is that if the 479 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:15.559 argument for why planets stay in our solar system due 480 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.880 to the Sun's gravitational pull to everything whatever, it is, right, 481 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:25.400 but for some reason, you know, a power that strong 482 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:31.039 isn't pulling my feet down through the dirt and through 483 00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.039 the clay. Do you understand what I'm trying to say. 484 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.880 That might sound stupid, but like why does it stop 485 00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:36.440 right there? 486 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:37.319 Well? 487 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.960 I hear you, all right, So we live in a 488 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:45.240 pressure of fourteen point six six ninety six, Okay, that 489 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.119 that would be my thumb up there it is. That 490 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.880 is the amount of pressure at atmosphere at sea level. Right, 491 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.880 if you go up to the height of the rocky mountains, 492 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:58.519 there's less atmospheric pressure. If you go down, there's more 493 00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:02.599 atmospheric pressure. Sure, So it's not that it's the same 494 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.319 with like, like, how do trees grow up against gravity? 495 00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:07.559 It's like, because they're experiencing the exact same level of 496 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:12.680 gravity that we are, they're not growing up any more difficult, uh, 497 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.559 you know environment than we are when you know. 498 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.240 Well, and this is why I get stuck on This 499 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.400 is why I get stuck on the plane of inertia. 500 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.519 That makes more sense to me whenever referring to gravity, 501 00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.000 right like, we're kind of all walking on this like board, 502 00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.319 so to say right like and that would be you know, 503 00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.480 you got the double toll roid and then you have 504 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.559 the plane of inertia in the middle. The reason why 505 00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:38.720 you don't go through the Earth's crust in that uh, 506 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.440 in that layout would be because you have equal and 507 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.119 opposite forces that are kind of making this plane of 508 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.839 inertia which keeps us right at level right, whereas gravity, 509 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:51.599 I don't know, you know, like, why are we not 510 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:52.799 being pulled down farther that? 511 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:53.160 I don't know. 512 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:54.599 I don't want to stick on it too long. It's 513 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:56.400 just a yeah, curious. 514 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:58.880 And that idea the plane of inertia, So that actually 515 00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:03.720 works off of artificial gravity. What do you mean, So 516 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:09.240 the whole idea of like a rotation or a spin 517 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:13.759 or anything that would create some kind of centrifugal force, 518 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.920 it's artificial gravity. That's not what our current understanding of 519 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:23.000 gravity is. Even Newton's laws are not our current understanding 520 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:30.640 of gravity. It it works, the math works, but it's 521 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:36.039 not our full in depth understanding of gravity. 522 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.720 Okay, can you go into what our full understanding of 523 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:43.559 gravity actually is right now currently? Say again, what is 524 00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.440 our full understanding of what gravity actually is? Then if 525 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:46.880 it's not. 526 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:53.119 Einstein's series his theory of special and general relativity, which 527 00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.839 so again we'll do this real quick. So Newton's came 528 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.400 up with the three laws of motion in the sixteen hundred, 529 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.319 law of inertia, law of acceleration, law of action and 530 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.319 reaction if y'all want to, we can get a little 531 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.400 bit further in depth into those. But after that, that 532 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.039 is whenever we get Einstein showing up in the nineteen hundreds, 533 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.680 he published the four papers in one year. They like 534 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.720 to claim it as like his miracle year or whatever. 535 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.599 But the first one is on photo electric effect, which 536 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:31.960 he actually predicted the double slit experiment before it was 537 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:32.839 ever even tested. 538 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:35.160 Wow, let's go. 539 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:42.240 Then we get into special theory of relativity, which this is. 540 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.599 I try to again, science is very boring, so I 541 00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:54.920 try to paraphrase it without taking like the actual message 542 00:31:54.960 --> 00:32:01.200 behind it away. But special relativity or relativeivity, I can't speak. 543 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:03.720 Words are hard. I get it. 544 00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:13.000 Yeah, yeah, let me expand this. So argues that speed 545 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:18.200 of light is a constant for all observers, regardless of 546 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:22.519 their movement related to the light source. This helped us 547 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:26.240 with time dilation. This helped us with length contraction. This 548 00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:29.559 actually also led to his equation of equals mc squared. 549 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.640 Then after that he came out with the general theory 550 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:44.039 of relativity, which states where special relativity applies to inertial 551 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:49.839 reference frames basically objects in rest or objects moving with 552 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.799 a constant velocity with no other effects on them. General 553 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:59.200 relativity is in reference to non inertial reference frames where 554 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:04.359 accelerate and gravity are involved. So the way this works is, 555 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:10.960 instead of basically the Earth pulling us down right because 556 00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:16.480 of a gravity or a some people like to say 557 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:22.839 attractent or whatever your word to use for it, you're 558 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:29.839 actually falling and the more basically mass that object has, 559 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.680 the more obvious gravity that it's going to have. And 560 00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:41.720 what that does is imagine there's something called space time right, 561 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.400 one word. It's one word. It's not space and time, 562 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.319 but a conjoined of the two of them. Imagine you 563 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.519 roll out the best way to explain this, if anybody 564 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.119 at home wants to try this, do whatever, Lay on 565 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.720 your bed or sit in the InStyle in your bed. 566 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:04.839 You know that dip that you now create in your bed, 567 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.599 if you put anything around that, where is it going to. 568 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.199 Go towards you? It's going to roll towards the drop right, 569 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:13.880 the dip. 570 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:18.239 Right, So that dip itself is called a gravity well. 571 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.960 And of course the heavier an object, the deeper the 572 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.440 well is going to be. And instead of necessarily a 573 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.760 force pulling you in, it's just more of a either 574 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.559 aggressive drop you could say that you're doing, or a 575 00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:37.920 fall that you're doing. The issue is that it works 576 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:44.239 in a infinite direction, meaning that like instead of like 577 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:48.840 your bed to where it is only one sheet, it 578 00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.840 works in all directions to where you have this kind 579 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:58.480 of hard to visualize like infinite well. I think that's 580 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.400 the issue for a lot of people. Is really hard 581 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.880 to visualize it. I think actually if you, Jonathan, if 582 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:09.760 you wanted to look up, uh gravity what good gravity 583 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:16.039 well diagram and then go to the images, I think 584 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.719 there there was one that actually moved around, so it 585 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:24.599 was kind of easy to see it. It basically pulls, 586 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:30.159 not necessarily pulls, but bends space time to create that 587 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.360 gravity well in all directions, so you see like everything 588 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.280 kind of like converging in on whatever that stingular point is. 589 00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.360 Okay, So it's kind of like those those things back 590 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:45.679 in the day when you go to the mall. 591 00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:47.039 Yeh little coins. 592 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:47.599 Yeah. 593 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:49.679 There, you you drop a coin, it would spiral and 594 00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:53.039 spiral and go down. But if we're talking towards our universe, 595 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.679 that spiral would be the Sun and it's not stationary 596 00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.280 and flat. It's moving and it's pulling the coins with 597 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.559 it and they're all try trying to fall into it, 598 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.920 but they're unable to because they're trying to hit a 599 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:04.599 moving target. 600 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:08.199 Yes, so if you actually those those little wells that 601 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:10.960 you can put the coin in, that is a great 602 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.840 representation of how the Earth's work with actually using the 603 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:24.079 Earth's gravity, because that's what's making it go down. Now, Uh, 604 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:24.719 where's it at? 605 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.360 So if it wasn't for the sun, would we not 606 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:33.119 have space time? Then no, so space time itself. So 607 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.559 when you look it back at like the Big Bang 608 00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.280 or whatever you want to consider, happen in the beginning, 609 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:46.639 there was a expansion right before everything basically got like 610 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.239 thrown out. That expansion itself was the so to say, 611 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.639 fabric of space time, and it's still continuing to go. 612 00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:03.000 So things aren't actually necessarily moving. Some things do have 613 00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:07.360 a increased velocity than others because of some kind of 614 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.599 external force, like if two objects blasted into each other, 615 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:18.480 if some were kind of boomeranged from another thing's gravity. 616 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.599 So there are things that are moving faster than what 617 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.800 they necessarily should because of another force that was acted 618 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.079 upon it. But it's actually that space itself, space time 619 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:35.280 is expanding, So not necessarily like two objects moving away 620 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.280 from each other, but that the space themselves are the 621 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.159 space in between them is expanding. It's very stupid to 622 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.039 put it in those kind of words. I'm gonna be honest, 623 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:46.440 because it doesn't make sense. 624 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.800 But it's like one of those science things to where 625 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.079 like they think it makes sense, like instead of saying 626 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:54.840 these two are separating from each other. 627 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:59.440 The space in between is growing, but that actual. 628 00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:01.800 Is not six in one hand and a half dozen 629 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:02.239 in the other. 630 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.079 Yes, yes, and you'll see that a lot with science. 631 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:10.719 They like to make the gray area go in their 632 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:20.920 preferred direction. Okay, But that that expansion that happened, that 633 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.800 is actually space time itself. So before every all the 634 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:28.360 material actually went out, the fabric, so to say, of 635 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.400 space time was already expanding out. 636 00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:35.800 Okay, Okay, I've heard somebody make the argument that the 637 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.199 universe can't be all there is because it only works 638 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.320 like in a like a in a containment system. So 639 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:49.519 imagine that the universe is held within something else, like 640 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:55.719 like a container, just hyperoechality. No, I mean like space planets, 641 00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.280 all the shit that is out there in space, including us, 642 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.480 it's all held with within something almost like there's some 643 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:06.199 kind of force or some kind of something that is 644 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.119 holding it all together. And that's why you know this 645 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.320 this image rate here. I mean, I don't know how 646 00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.280 accurate it is. It seems like it's accurate, but like it's. 647 00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:18.400 Accurate on a three dimensional plane instead of a four 648 00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:22.960 dimensional Okay, So just that that well that you see there, 649 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:26.599 imagine that if you can in infinite directions. 650 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.719 But what is the blanket that is? That is. 651 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.559 Space time one word, and I'm actually I've got something 652 00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.360 for that that I think you're gonna enjoy a lot, 653 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:42.760 all right, Uh, specifically, I guess the uh I like 654 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.280 to say spiritual instead of woo woo. 655 00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:44.679 I don't. 656 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:48.280 I don't know why, like people had to put some 657 00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:50.679 kind of negative effect on woo woo. 658 00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:54.559 But because they disagree with it, right, that's really it. 659 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.719 I mean, I don't. I kind of I kind of 660 00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.360 wear the woo woo as a badge of honor like somebody, 661 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.239 I don't know, Like you know, it used to be 662 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:05.239 like a demeaning term to call somebody a conspiracy theorist. 663 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:09.199 And now you know, they like we're right, so yeah, 664 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:12.000 and it's like, you know, it's just the under fortune tellers. 665 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.920 It's just the misunderstood, you know. They they look at 666 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:19.519 it like oooooooooo magic. It's you know, I don't know, 667 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:20.519 it's stupid. 668 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:26.199 So once he established special and general relativity, we get 669 00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:29.039 the space time curvature to where gravity is not a 670 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:34.159 force but a curve in space time. Large objects been 671 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.760 the fabric of space time around them that can cause 672 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.760 other things that are going near them to affect their path. 673 00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:47.840 Geodesics is the straightest possible path in curve space time, 674 00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:52.280 So that's basically like imagine a straight line. The geodesics 675 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:56.320 are where it actually starts curving because of the curvature 676 00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:59.639 in spacetime itself. So it's still riding a straight line, 677 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:04.320 but because the material it is writing on is bent, 678 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:06.440 its path is now bent. 679 00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:12.199 Okay, so let me ask you this. Then that hole 680 00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.719 the ship that Jacob always tries to bring up like 681 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.599 a sniper trying to hit something from two miles. 682 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:22.039 Away into that. Yeah, okay, we're going to get to that, 683 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:22.599 all right. 684 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:22.880 Cool. 685 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.400 So it came up with time dilation to where Tom 686 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.239 runs slower in their massive objects. That's why you know, 687 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:33.039 I have that constant saying of like if you were 688 00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:36.239 to actually get sucked into a black hole, you would 689 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:40.800 be able to watch the universe basically end because Tom 690 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.079 would slow down so much for you that everything else 691 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:48.639 around it would basically go and fast forward. Oh, the 692 00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.119 movie Interstellar is fucking amazing. I love that to everybody 693 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.199 to watch that. Yeah, yeah, they say that that's like 694 00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:00.639 the as far as I guess astrophysics go that's one 695 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.840 of the most accurate movies to ever be made about it. 696 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.480 Wow. All right, yeah, I like that even more now. 697 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:09.360 I kind of figured that it was, you know, on 698 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.039 some scientific shit you know about it, Like towards the 699 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.519 end of the movie, whenever he's trying to talk back 700 00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.800 to his daughter or whoever he was talking to, and 701 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:18.639 it's like he's right there, and I kind of just 702 00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:23.039 imagine that's where that's like where you know, the unseen 703 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.760 forces are whatever they are, ghosts or angels or gods 704 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:29.239 or whatever probably are. 705 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:30.840 And it could be. 706 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.480 So then we end up getting into uh, of course, 707 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.920 light ends up bending in the presence of gravity, we 708 00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:47.039 ate gravitational waves, we get black holes. There's further field 709 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.000 formulas for all this stuff, but I doubt anybody wants 710 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:53.360 to actually get into that, because that's whenever you get 711 00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.880 into the formulas that like when you see the classic 712 00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.880 picture of like a fucking big ass blackboard that's got 713 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:04.039 chalk fucking equations all over the entire thing. Yeah, that's 714 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.320 the equations I'm talking about with that, I'm not I 715 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.440 don't think anybody wants to get into that. 716 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:09.800 That's that good will hunting shit. 717 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:10.679 Yeah. 718 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.280 Yeah, Although Oddly enough, even though this is how we 719 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.719 understand gravity, now, that's not how it actually works at 720 00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.360 the atomic level. So like whenever you get to atoms 721 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:26.760 with electrons, protons, neutrons, because they're so small, you got 722 00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:29.719 to think the amount of mass they have, they obviously 723 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:34.599 don't have a very large impact on space time. So 724 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:41.119 the electromagnetic forces are actually stronger at that point in 725 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:45.920 time than gravity is. So that's basically the controlling factor 726 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:47.599 for atoms themselves. 727 00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:52.440 Right, Electrons will be negative, protons are positive, neutrons are neutral. 728 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.639 So basically you have the electrons repelling against the nucleus 729 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.880 but also being withhled and close enough two because of 730 00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:02.199 the electromagnetic force. 731 00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.039 Right, And that's when that's whenever when he came out 732 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:11.159 with with special and general relativity, that's whenever basically quantum 733 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:15.760 mechanics was born, because we kind of had the foundation 734 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:23.159 for atoms being you know, more electrical than they were gravitational. Okay, 735 00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.559 so actually this is going to be one of the other, 736 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:33.800 uh interactive things in the spiritual community. I'm trying to remember, 737 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.960 is it that they believe that we're it's three dimensional beings? Right? 738 00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:41.920 Well, the physical body is a three dimensional being. 739 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:47.199 Yeah, okay, so I have a little exercise for everybody. 740 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:49.960 So obviously. 741 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:55.760 With our eyes, we can notice length, right, and we 742 00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.000 can notice height, and we can notice width. Now, if 743 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.880 if you and if you're in a car, please don't 744 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.519 do this, just kind of track it in your mind. 745 00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:09.920 But if you walked forward, right, you realize that you 746 00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:14.400 went from this place to this place and it took 747 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:18.119 a certain amount of time. Right. And if you're in 748 00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:21.119 a car, obviously you you were at this spot you 749 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.360 drove and you realize you were here. So that is 750 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.760 actually the fourth dimension. So congratulations everybody worth fourth dimensional beings. 751 00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:33.280 Now, time being the fourth dimension, space time, space time 752 00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:39.880 being the one word one word space time. Oh okay, yeah, 753 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:40.559 that makes sense. 754 00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:43.519 Go a little more on that one. So you're saying 755 00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:46.039 that basically the time that it takes from you to 756 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:48.519 get from point A to point B is the fourth dimension. 757 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:56.039 Yes, so the the basically the the traversing of the 758 00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.360 space comparative to the amount of time. And that's actually 759 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.239 how we track a lot of the things that have 760 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.119 moved through space, like for the distance that they have, 761 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.719 because we can measure like the speed comparative to the 762 00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.719 distance and the equations that go into that, so that 763 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.480 however they're traveling, Yeah, some of them are traveling a 764 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:24.280 lot further than like you would have other measurement speeds 765 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:29.960 like light years whatever, however fast that they're traveling, So 766 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.719 that space time itself, that fabric of time, that measurement 767 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:40.360 is our fourth dimension. Okay, And obviously we experience that 768 00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.840 because we, you know, move throughout space time itself. Even 769 00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:50.000 when you're walking, you're traversing through space time. You yourself are 770 00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:55.079 putting even a very minuscule dip or gravity well into 771 00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:55.679 space time. 772 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:58.800 Now given it, it. 773 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.199 Definitely isn't enough to overcome you know, the building that's 774 00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.280 next to you or anything like that. It's really not 775 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.639 even enough to you know, warp any kind of roads 776 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:13.079 or anything similar to that. Like a bug can still 777 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:15.639 fly by you and not get pulled in because it's 778 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.039 our mass isn't much at all. 779 00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.079 So you're saying, like a tree is a third dimensional 780 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.960 entity because it doesn't move through space time, it's stagnant. 781 00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.920 Any object that is able to move from point A 782 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.280 to point B at all, movement across this Earth is 783 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.480 what classify as somebody or something as a fourth dimensional being. 784 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:43.039 In the scientific community. I guess you could say that. Yeah. Now, 785 00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.239 I guess you could also argue that the tree is 786 00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.519 on Earth, which is moving through space time. 787 00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.599 Now, maybe you. 788 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:57.880 Could argue whether the tree realizes that it is traversing 789 00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.639 through space time, that's what doesn't make it a fourth 790 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:02.199 dimensional being. I guess you could. 791 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.760 Say so, the acknowledgment is what makes it a fourth 792 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.880 man or. But see now, when you say it like that, 793 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:11.559 that's true. If again, if we are to acknowledge that 794 00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:14.360 the Earth is flying through space and that the entire 795 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.920 Earth is moving, by that logic, pretty much everything on 796 00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:21.719 Earth would be a fourth dimensional dot dot dot because 797 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:25.599 it is all moving through time space, correct, right, Okay. 798 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.559 That's why I will argue this time and time again. 799 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:34.920 I think that spiritual things are directly linked to scientifical things. 800 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.400 I think scientific things are just our understanding of how 801 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.920 the spiritual actually works. Like I a lot of this 802 00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:46.480 I try to stay away from, like religious matters. But 803 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.760 like you could argue, whoever you believe and religiously like 804 00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.920 they have a certain manipulation of matter that they know 805 00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:58.960 about in order to do things like, for example, Jesus 806 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:03.119 turning water into water. He like obviously he didn't like 807 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:07.119 snap and it changed and it just automatically. There was 808 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:11.440 a actual molecular change that was there. Now, whether he 809 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.960 commanded the atoms to change, whatever you want to consider it, 810 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:19.360 there's still a science there at the end of the day. 811 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:23.119 There's still something you could observe and discover there. Like 812 00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:26.920 if they had instrumentation at that time to observe it, 813 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.239 you'd think they, yeah, yeah, I would say that science 814 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.960 is kind of like the long way around it, like 815 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:39.360 obviously we can't to a certain extent manipulate things at 816 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:40.119 will like that. 817 00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.960 Well, they do say that science is catching up to spirituality, right, 818 00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:49.559 like there's that old adage, but like, you know, who 819 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.920 was it that created Was it the Chinese that created 820 00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:56.639 the yin yang? Right? And the yin and yang? You know, 821 00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.360 whenever you start what was it, like uh oh, there's 822 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.960 some kind of sell or atom or something. Whenever you 823 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.000 zoom all the way in on it, it looks like 824 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.920 an actual yin yang and it's like damn, all right, 825 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.639 well that's really cool. And you know, then you start 826 00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:16.920 to learn of the scientific benefits of meditation for example, 827 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:21.719 or the scientific benefits to fasting for example, and and 828 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.599 you know, all the all the shit. Yeah, I agree 829 00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:28.320 that science is definitely catching up. I don't want to 830 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.800 say all the way there, because there's definitely still a 831 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.199 lot of bought science out there. Yes, and that's probably 832 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.760 what's hindering it from allowing it to go full on 833 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:44.480 like al chemical in a sense. But but yeah, I 834 00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:46.199 do like the direction that's going. 835 00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:50.039 Yeah, in some aspects I saw that I saw the 836 00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.840 picture of I don't remember either whether like what kind 837 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.800 of material it was, whether it was an atom or 838 00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:58.920 whatever it was, but the amount of accuracy that that 839 00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:03.679 thing had comparative to the yin yang was absolutely crazy. 840 00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:06.599 Oh yeah, dude, Yeah, I'm gonna try and find that 841 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.519 because there is a term that I can't think of. 842 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.679 I'm gonna search for it. But y'all keep on talking if. 843 00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:14.519 I'm not mistaken. That was actually as you were talking 844 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.480 about fluid mechanics earlier. It was more like the vortices 845 00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.800 of these two components that were entwined within each other, 846 00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:24.920 and whenever you track those vortices and take a snapshot 847 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.159 of it while in motion, it is in the shape 848 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.360 of what we would call a yin yang, but it's 849 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:32.559 more along with the lines of fluid mechanics. 850 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:34.440 Like you said, before I even researched it, it came 851 00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.199 to me it's quantum entanglements. That's what it is. The 852 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:39.119 quantum entanglement shows the yin yang. 853 00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:42.320 And I'm gonna be honest, whenever I actually started doing 854 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.880 further research into the quantum world, I was kind of 855 00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:52.639 upset because, like, yeah, I understood that it it has 856 00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.400 more to do with the micro level than it does 857 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.440 the macro. But so like for example, string theory, right 858 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:04.320 the way, it's a perfect situation to where two particles 859 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:11.000 end up becoming entangled, and when they do, there's a 860 00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.719 lot there's basically a million more different things that can 861 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:19.440 happen than that one perfect situation to cause them to 862 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:27.039 be not linked together anymore. Same thing with the double 863 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.519 slit experiment. The issue is there's so many other particles 864 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:35.360 that those once those light waves or light particles where 865 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:39.280 they could start out at bounce off of any other particle, 866 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.840 they now become waves because they were observed they interacted 867 00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:46.360 with any other thing in general, So as far as 868 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:52.519 quantum mechanics go, it's really only relatable in very very controlled, 869 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.960 perfect scenarios like quantum computing cubits stuff like that where 870 00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:03.719 you can absolutely control everything involved it. As far as 871 00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.400 like in nature, it really doesn't happen a lot. 872 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:07.119 So it's not. 873 00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:10.920 Like I know a lot of people whenever they first 874 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.199 came up with a string theory, they were like, Oh, 875 00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:16.519 I wonder if there's another Earth, like somewhere, you know, 876 00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.719 across the universe, because you know, our atoms could be 877 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:25.920 entangled and you know, basically representing each other across vast instances. 878 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:30.679 And it just it sucked because I was like, that's 879 00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.199 there's no way, because there's way too many things that 880 00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:38.599 would cause it to become untangled. I guess you could say. 881 00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:43.159 There is a possibilility though there is a greater than 882 00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.360 zero percent chance that that sentence is accurate. However, I 883 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:49.719 agree with you that it's like the chances of that 884 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:54.679 are so minuscule I would personally call them negligible. But 885 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.159 there there is still that slight chance for sure. 886 00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:01.440 I mean, there's there's a slight chance of a sentient 887 00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:05.079 fart in the universe that's greater than zero. Right like, 888 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:11.159 in an infinite universe, anything's possible at that point, rightthing's 889 00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:11.679 in space. 890 00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:14.960 I fucking I love that show. 891 00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:16.800 Suh. They got a. 892 00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.639 Little bit wild for a little bit, especially like in 893 00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:20.880 the first season, but they. 894 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:21.639 Pulled it back. 895 00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:23.199 Yeah. 896 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.559 So I got a another little fun fact that I 897 00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.559 hope everybody will like. So there was a statement that 898 00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:35.719 was made. The statement was, according to general theory of relativity, 899 00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:41.239 space without ether is unthinkable, or in such space there 900 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:45.519 would be no propagation of light and hence no possibility 901 00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.440 of existence. Do you want to know who made that statement? 902 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:51.199 Sounds like an Einstein thing. 903 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:54.519 It was indeed Einstein, and that was him basically coming 904 00:54:54.519 --> 00:55:00.800 out and saying that space time as one word, is ether. 905 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:05.559 Ah, there we go. That's the fabric of you know, 906 00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.559 that's the bedsheet, right. 907 00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:11.800 It's not the same spiritual understanding as ether like originally was, 908 00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:18.480 but it you could argue it's a more precise definition 909 00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:23.679 or precise like example of what ether is. So the 910 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.880 light waves are able to travel across space time because 911 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:31.280 there's there's something actually there. There is space there, not 912 00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:33.480 as in like you know, you look up in the 913 00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.519 sky and you know you see space, but it's like 914 00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:41.119 there is a area for it to travel through. 915 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.719 Yeah, it's like that idea. 916 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:48.519 Nothing is very hard for us to grasp just in general. 917 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:55.079 So there's obviously not nothing in between all of space. 918 00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:59.119 Right, it can't be emptiness like in the old the 919 00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:04.960 old adage that like nothing has never existed. It can't 920 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.519 mean like it's never existed, So how can it be nothing? 921 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:09.000 There's no such thing as nothing. 922 00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:13.880 And that's what they're actually working on a theory right 923 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.119 now as to what was going on before the Big Bang. 924 00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:19.320 They have a name for it, but I can't remember 925 00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:22.480 off the top of my head, but it was basically 926 00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:29.760 like a just very very hot area. M yeah, they 927 00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:33.039 from what I was reading, they it's really not anything 928 00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:35.599 worth looking into yet. 929 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:38.119 But it depends on the source too, because now we're 930 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:42.679 talking about allegedly four point six to four point eight 931 00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:46.079 billion years ago or something like that, or even further back. 932 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.079 And you know, it's like, where are you even getting 933 00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.719 the test to give you an age gap for that? 934 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:54.840 You know what I mean. It's like you said, it's 935 00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:57.599 not worth committing a lot of thought to. However, it 936 00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:00.679 is an interesting thing to ponder. Well. 937 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:03.400 A lot of those images that are coming from that 938 00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:07.519 that web telescope, James web telescope, dude, I mean, I 939 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.360 don't know what to make of it. I mean, sometimes, yes, 940 00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:13.519 sometimes I think that space could be fake and gay, 941 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:15.280 but then you look at those pictures and it's like, 942 00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:20.639 all right, that's that's interesting because it takes pictures of 943 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:26.199 what our area of the universe looked like before it 944 00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.760 got here, and it's like, how are you even able 945 00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.519 to get that kind of information? But space is a 946 00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:34.039 fucking weird play student, and there's a lot of answers 947 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.280 out there. You just gotta know how to get the answers, 948 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:42.760 and I guess the James James Webb Telescope is one way. 949 00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:45.679 I mean, I don't know what to do with that information. 950 00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:49.840 You know, is that admitting big Bang? Or you know, 951 00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:53.159 is it admitting that there was a beginning? Some people 952 00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:57.159 say that there wasn't even ever a beginning, so whatever 953 00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:58.000 that is, I mean. 954 00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:00.320 I forget where I heard it said, but it was like, 955 00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:03.480 science makes a lot of sense, even even the most 956 00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:07.719 atheistic scientists out there. It all can make sense, but 957 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.559 you have to account for at least one miracle in 958 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.920 order for everything to make sense. Some may call it 959 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.239 the Big Bang, and that's an overarching theme. But basically, 960 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:20.840 like you said, nothing has ever not been right, Like 961 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.320 all of this didn't come from just the nothingness. There 962 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.920 had to have been something in the beginning at least 963 00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:32.000 in all measures of scientific academic name your fancy wordage, 964 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.639 you have to at least account for the one miracle 965 00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.519 of the beginning of existence happening in some way, shape 966 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:37.920 or form. 967 00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:41.239 If the beginning thing though, but if there ever was 968 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:43.400 a beginning, you know, And there's an argument to be 969 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.519 made on the other half or on the other side 970 00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.079 that like why are we to assume that there is 971 00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.719 a beginning and an end? You know, Like that's just 972 00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:53.719 the way our minds work. We watch a movie from 973 00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.239 beginning to end, we do our jobs from beginning to end, 974 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.679 you know, and like all the different ways that you 975 00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:03.400 experience beginning and ending, and so that's kind of how 976 00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:06.079 our minds work. But like, if you think about it, 977 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:10.280 that it has always been something has always been right, Like, 978 00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:13.480 there's no way that there was nothing and then there 979 00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:18.199 was something without something existing outside of that something or 980 00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:20.639 nothing in the first place. You can call that God, 981 00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.079 you can call that whatever the case may be. But 982 00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:27.519 it's either something existed outside of the nothing that allowed 983 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.960 the something to happen, or the something has always existed, 984 00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:33.800 like that's the only two reasonable explanations, right. 985 00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:36.719 It's both at the same time, honestly, but I mean 986 00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:38.840 me with the religious side of it, it's very easy 987 00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:41.440 to see where I'm going next. But toance your point, yes, 988 00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:43.920 there had to be something existing outside of it, and 989 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.840 something that has always existed. I'm with you one hundred percent, man. 990 00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:53.320 Yeah, and so not even speaking about like the beginning 991 00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:57.239 or the creation of the universe. When you're talking about miracles, 992 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.480 we're going to talk about literally life starting on Earth itself. 993 01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:04.760 Like I still to this day, I don't believe in 994 01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:13.960 the evolution theory because the the statistical improbability alone of again, 995 01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:17.960 not even the universe itself starting, but life starting and 996 01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:22.280 not getting constantly destroyed over and over and over again 997 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:26.079 on a repreditive cycle. Because of how many different things 998 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:34.119 could take us out. It's almost insane to think that 999 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:36.400 there's not a actual purpose. 1000 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.639 So you say evolution that you disagree with. You're not 1001 01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:44.760 talking about adaptation slowly over. You're talking about complete species 1002 01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:46.840 jumps from things like this, okay, making. 1003 01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:50.880 Sure, Yeah, Now, adaptations are are natural, and you can 1004 01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.119 have some that develop very quickly, you can have some 1005 01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:59.039 that are more exaggerated that take a longer time, Like 1006 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:02.119 the tribes for example, that can you know, hold their 1007 01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:06.360 breath for twenty minutes underwater because their whole you know, 1008 01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:11.320 tribe has been diving for food and uh right whatever 1009 01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.719 for you know, a thousand years. Meanwhile, they're going to 1010 01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:15.679 get better over time. 1011 01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:19.000 Meanwhile, most of humanity, if your brain doesn't get oxygen 1012 01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:23.800 for four minutes, you start to suffer irreputable brain damage. Meanwhile, 1013 01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:26.039 that tribe can go free diving for twenty minutes at 1014 01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:27.480 a time. I'm with you one hundred percent. 1015 01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:33.199 Now right, And fuck I lost my train of thought 1016 01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:33.400 with that. 1017 01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:36.519 Tom species jumping in evolution. How it's statistically impossible. 1018 01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:42.440 Yeah, So, like I'm not even talking about just like 1019 01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.039 black holes, because like we can talk about quasars, which 1020 01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:50.559 are absolutely fucking terrifying. Like you that, if I'm not mistaken, 1021 01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:53.519 that to this day is the most destructive thing that 1022 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:58.800 we have observed in the universe. You're talking about a massive, 1023 01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:01.960 massive load of energy literally getting shot out of a 1024 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:06.880 black hole like a plasma cannon, and it travels at 1025 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.800 the speed of light or right at it. I would 1026 01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:12.880 argue that if we were going to get hit by 1027 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:15.559 one they probably wouldn't see it until it was too late. 1028 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:18.960 I don't I don't care what anybody says, like for 1029 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:24.599 I still have a problem with them trying to estimate 1030 01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:29.119 how we might get hit with electrical storms from the sun, 1031 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:33.840 right like the solar winds from solar flares all that, 1032 01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:37.360 because you're talking about Earth rotates at thousand miles per hour, 1033 01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:41.599 orbits the Sun at sixty seven thousand miles an hour, 1034 01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:45.599 solar system moving at four hundred and fifty thousand miles 1035 01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:48.800 an hour, along with the galaxy moving at one point 1036 01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:53.159 three million miles per hour. The there's just too much 1037 01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:56.559 improbability there for you to tell me that, Like, you know, 1038 01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:59.559 you can predict every single flare that we're going to 1039 01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:03.000 come into contact with. I mean, not to mention some 1040 01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:06.960 other flair that might be coming in from acause it 1041 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.519 continues to move if it doesn't have anything, you know, 1042 01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:13.320 either absorbing it or impacting it or anything, because law 1043 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:16.920 of inertia continues to move, it'll it'll never stop until 1044 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:21.000 something interacts with it, So you can predict everything coming 1045 01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:25.480 in like and it really bothers me whenever they try 1046 01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:29.760 to talk about, you know, materials that are like a 1047 01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.119 planet that's made out of a material or a meteor 1048 01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:36.880 common or whatever that is so far away, or they can, 1049 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.800 you know, monitor what all these other planets are made 1050 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:42.679 out of. They literally still don't know if Saturn has 1051 01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.440 a solid core or not, right, haven't. They haven't decided yet, 1052 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.039 So you have You can't decide that, but you can 1053 01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.079 decide all these other things. Now, get the fuck out 1054 01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:51.320 of here. 1055 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:53.960 They still don't know of Jupiter, like I said earlier, 1056 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.039 as a gas giant, we don't like as we know 1057 01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:59.440 it has a core now, right, yes, yes, now. The 1058 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:01.639 only reason for the longest time we thought that it 1059 01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:03.480 was just a giant ball of gas is because the 1060 01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:05.400 hurricane that's on it, which by the way, has been 1061 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:07.719 changing shape for the past few years. It's pretty wild. 1062 01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:10.079 It went from an oval to more of a solid 1063 01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:12.519 circle form and we still have no fucking clue why 1064 01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:15.840 that is. But that's pretty much on the surface, and 1065 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.239 we just thought that since that is a swirling ball 1066 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.280 of gas, the rest of it must be a swirling 1067 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:23.480 ball of gas. No, it absolutely has a solid form, 1068 01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:25.360 at least in the center of it, and we have 1069 01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:29.719 no idea what that's made of, right, absolutely, man. 1070 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:34.280 So now we're gonna get into a part that I 1071 01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:36.679 would say is going to be Jacob's least favorite part. 1072 01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:40.199 Oh, so that means it's gonna be my favorite part. 1073 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:42.440 Yeah. I like I like how I like how you 1074 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:43.039 scooed it out. 1075 01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.519 You're like, all, let's go, Yeah, let's go. 1076 01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:52.639 So numbers, okay, so we we know what variables are, right, So, 1077 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.760 like in an equation, a square plus b squared equals 1078 01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:00.159 ce squared. Obviously A, b and C are variables. The 1079 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.239 issue is most people don't understand that numbers are also variables. 1080 01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:09.360 So if you have the number two, right, two feet 1081 01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:13.840 is different than two meters. Right, a meter is different 1082 01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:17.559 than a foot. The two is the variable that is 1083 01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:23.079 what can change. Right, And when we don't know all 1084 01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:28.800 of the variables, the equation can looked correct, but it 1085 01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:33.679 doesn't mean that it is so. Like for example, what 1086 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:41.960 is one plus one two? So if I have one 1087 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.119 pair of pants plus one pair of pants, I have 1088 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:48.039 two legholes at the bottom. 1089 01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:51.519 You have two pairs of pants, but. 1090 01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:53.679 I was looking for the amount of legholes at the bottom. 1091 01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.920 But it can still be shown as one pair of 1092 01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:00.800 pants plus one pair of pants. What you're saying is 1093 01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:04.840 two one is a variable? Yes, contacts matters one hundred percent. 1094 01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:09.440 And when we're in this kind of you know, universe, 1095 01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:14.840 where there's so much context that we don't we still 1096 01:06:14.840 --> 01:06:18.559 don't know about, you can't just simply say one plus 1097 01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:22.760 one equals too, like in its simplest form, when we 1098 01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:26.920 know what one and one represent, then yes, we can 1099 01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:30.199 say that one plus one is two. But numbers are 1100 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.800 still a variable, same as A is a variable, B 1101 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:39.360 is a variable. And I think a lot of it 1102 01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:42.519 is that science doesn't want to admit that. They want 1103 01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:45.199 to admit that numbers are numbers instead of them being 1104 01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:49.000 actual variables. They want to argue that they're very concrete. So, 1105 01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:56.440 like a good example of this of a physicist, because 1106 01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:02.280 numbers are variables, that means that they can be I'm 1107 01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:09.360 not gonna say, manipulated, but misinterpreted. So in nineteen seventeen, 1108 01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:16.000 Einstein was working on his general relativity equation, and his 1109 01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:21.920 issue that he was running into was the equation was 1110 01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:29.360 showing that the universe as it was moving would either 1111 01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:34.000 collapse or expand. Because at the current time they thought 1112 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:36.320 the universe was static, they didn't think that it was 1113 01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:42.000 still expanding. So he ended up having to force a 1114 01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:46.519 constant lambdau, which is like the upside down the into 1115 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:51.679 the equation and it worked, and to a dramatic effect, 1116 01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:57.199 he literally made the universe stop moving and the math worked. 1117 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:01.039 The issue is that later on. 1118 01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:08.360 Edward Hubble made another test experiment that proved that Einstein 1119 01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:13.159 was wrong and that the universe was continuing to move. Now, 1120 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.439 to further go into that issue, that constant now is 1121 01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:22.960 being used in dark energy equations. Right when you don't 1122 01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:26.159 know all the variables, you can't say the math is 1123 01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:28.760 one hundred percent. And it's not like I say, it's 1124 01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:32.119 not Einstein's fault because at the current time, the understanding 1125 01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:36.600 was the universe was static, it wasn't moving. He didn't 1126 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:40.279 have all the variables. So he ended up making the 1127 01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:45.239 numbers work, which you can do because again, numbers are variables. 1128 01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:46.760 They're not concrete. 1129 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:48.319 Fudging the numbers so to say. 1130 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.920 And maybe not even that, because I would say that 1131 01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:58.760 that adds a a malicious or yeah, a deceptive tone 1132 01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:02.439 behind it. I think that science just like say straight 1133 01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:07.520 line instead of oh well back to the pythagon pythagoreans. 1134 01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:06.880 But. 1135 01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:13.159 Ignorance, right, and yeah, it could be yeah, per definition, Yes, 1136 01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.880 it could be ignorance of them just not knowing that, 1137 01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:20.600 you know, the universe is moving. But the main issue 1138 01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:26.079 is that it worked. So how many other equations, especially 1139 01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:29.199 the physicists that we got going and now that you 1140 01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:32.960 know they I'm not going to necessarily say that they 1141 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:36.359 haven't taken another look at like older equations, just to 1142 01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:38.760 you know, rework them, see if there's different ways to 1143 01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:41.159 work them, if there's things that we know about now 1144 01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:43.880 that might be applicable to, you know, an equation that 1145 01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:47.520 we had three hundred years ago. They may not be 1146 01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:52.359 checking old math, so they may just be moving their 1147 01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:58.119 ideas with flawed ideas. So it may not be them 1148 01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:01.680 like just literally you know, being deceptive. It could just 1149 01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:04.159 be them thinking they know what they're doing. 1150 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:05.399 Right. 1151 01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:08.279 Science is ever changing and ever evolving in that regard, 1152 01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:11.920 but usually when a new theory replaces an old one, 1153 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:15.199 it can explain why the old theory was accepted for 1154 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:18.039 the time and show why this now replaces it. 1155 01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:22.880 Right, right, So like that's literally what general and special 1156 01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:30.640 relativity did to Newtonian gravity. So it it like Newtonian gravity, 1157 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:36.880 the math still works, but relativity explains it in a 1158 01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:40.720 more detailed and perfect, so to speak. 1159 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.199 Away, so it just matched better. 1160 01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:48.920 Right, Okay, So basically the scientists they're doing their best. 1161 01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:52.640 They're not necessarily trying to deceive anybody. Some might not, 1162 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:55.079 some might not. For sure, yeah we can't. We can't 1163 01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:58.359 you know, tie everybody into the same thing. But you know, 1164 01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:01.880 we might think, okay, well this is what science has discovered, 1165 01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.000 and so we're like, all right, well the science is 1166 01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:07.319 they clearly figured it out. They understand you know, certain 1167 01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:10.279 formulas and they and they know all of that. But 1168 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:13.600 it's like that's what they know for our time. It 1169 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.239 doesn't necessarily mean that it's the truth. It's just the 1170 01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.239 closest we were able to get to the truth in 1171 01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:21.199 our allotted time of existence. 1172 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:25.640 Right, So, like, for example, we know that a majority 1173 01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:29.199 of what we view as empty space is now mainly 1174 01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:33.199 filled with dark energy, and dark energy is a newer 1175 01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:36.760 concept that we still don't know a lot about, well, 1176 01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:42.279 how many of the older equations worked because there was 1177 01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:46.880 a dark energy variable in there that they didn't know about, right, 1178 01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:50.800 you know, it is further expanding and further you know, 1179 01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:56.039 it's mainly just about not necessarily like so for the 1180 01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.000 flat Earth people, of saying like, oh, you're fucking stupid 1181 01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:03.960 and lonely. Don't have that kind of attitude towards it 1182 01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:07.680 and actually look at the work itself. See what you 1183 01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:12.560 what knowledge we have now that might have changed our 1184 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:16.159 understanding of how things work, And a lot of it 1185 01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:20.119 could be that, like there's so much stacked up that 1186 01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:25.199 that would be too much rebuilding, Like they don't want 1187 01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.880 to go back that far because for example, again like 1188 01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:35.880 even though Newton's theories worked and relativity worked better, you know, 1189 01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:39.199 maybe these old equations do work, but maybe there is 1190 01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:41.960 a better understanding that we could have of it that 1191 01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:46.920 could cause other things that you know, equation wise didn't work, 1192 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:48.239 they could not work. 1193 01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:51.039 Sure, it's it's ever changing. 1194 01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:55.239 That's what's really amazing about science and about physics. But 1195 01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:58.159 I think a lot of them are just too resistant 1196 01:12:58.159 --> 01:12:58.640 to change. 1197 01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:03.079 Well, everybody wants to say trust the science, and it's like, dude, 1198 01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:07.079 science isn't even necessarily looking to trust itself, Like that's 1199 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:10.640 not the goal of you know, trying to get to absolutes. 1200 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:13.159 It's not that, oh we trust it. So it's true, 1201 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:15.800 and that's why you know a lot of the people, 1202 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.720 especially within the flat Earth realm cannot fucking stand Neil 1203 01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:21.600 de grass Tyson. I'm not even a flat earther, and 1204 01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:25.800 I can't stand that asshole because it's just the the 1205 01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:30.359 cockiness of I represent science and whatever you say is putrid. 1206 01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:34.840 It's like your science is ever changing, so therefore you can't. 1207 01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:38.760 How are you going to represent something that is constantly moving? 1208 01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:42.199 You know, like it makes it's silly to me anyway. 1209 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:44.760 Yeah, And I think I think a lot of why 1210 01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:46.319 they put him on the front is because he does 1211 01:13:46.359 --> 01:13:49.880 have a nice voice. He does have a a good 1212 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.520 show that he puts on to like keep people attracted, 1213 01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:57.520 keep them entertained. But yes, his his such matter of 1214 01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:00.960 fact way of speaking is really really annoying. 1215 01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:03.800 Yeah, I get that. I mean Bill Nye was the 1216 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:06.560 same way for a while, wasn't he. He still is 1217 01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:10.159 that guy back in the day, back when we were 1218 01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:12.439 kids watching Bill and Iy the science guy. Right, he 1219 01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:14.760 was entertaining and it was fun and it was this 1220 01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:17.039 type of thing. You listen to him now saying that 1221 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:20.920 gender is something that's on a spectrum and it's like, oh, okay, bro. 1222 01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:22.800 He's not even And the thing is is that he's 1223 01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:26.079 not even a scientist. That's the crazy thing about Bill Knight. 1224 01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.000 You're a fucking actor, bro. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1225 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:31.079 you know, stay in your lane. 1226 01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:34.359 I just I can't stand back to what I said before, 1227 01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:38.600 Like I can't use the example of him not being 1228 01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:41.359 a scientist, because, like we talked about, you know, the beginning, 1229 01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:46.800 people weren't and there are still people today. Like I 1230 01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:49.920 was gonna suggest y'all did a possibly an episode about 1231 01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:52.000 this one guy. But he ended up making his own 1232 01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:57.600 time machine. He was like this not gonna say isolated guy, 1233 01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:00.600 but he he was very smart. He ended up, you know, 1234 01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:08.880 looking up a bunch of information, stole a couple what 1235 01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:11.479 are the things on the pull of the power line's 1236 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:16.159 called transformers. Yeah, he stole a couple of transformers to 1237 01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:24.640 try to create his own maybe time machine, maybe teleporter. 1238 01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:29.479 From report, he got arrested, got put in jail, got out, 1239 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:30.199 did it again. 1240 01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:35.159 I would love to know, as a former electrician, what 1241 01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:37.880 he was trying to do with step down transformers to 1242 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:40.399 try to make a time machine. I'm not saying he's crazy. 1243 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:42.560 I just want to know where his mind was at. 1244 01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:47.000 He shut off the power to the entire city at 1245 01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:51.399 one point in time, that's how much power he was pulling. 1246 01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:53.399 Did he have to get that bad boy up to 1247 01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:54.479 eighty eight miles an hour? 1248 01:15:54.920 --> 01:15:59.880 That's what ee, My guy was going way faster than that. 1249 01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:06.159 He apparently like teleported a hamster and then he ended 1250 01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:10.560 up disappearing himself after his final experiment he did or 1251 01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.079 whatever he vanished. They don't know where he went. 1252 01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.399 Not trying to be a dick, but do we know 1253 01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:18.920 for sure vapor right right, I would say, the transport 1254 01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.600 a hamster or fucking vaporize it. Yeah, he then did 1255 01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:23.039 the same thing to himself. I don't know. 1256 01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:25.479 He very well could have, yes. 1257 01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:29.760 Okay, because I mean there is a certain level of 1258 01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:33.560 electrical power that literally if you touch it, like I 1259 01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:35.479 don't even know if there's math to know what the 1260 01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:38.760 calorie output to your body would be. But it's more 1261 01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:40.840 like they may find a pinky nail, you know what 1262 01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:42.199 I mean? Like that's real shit. 1263 01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:46.000 It's like no, it's like a lot of people don't 1264 01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:57.800 understand like how powerful some of the. 1265 01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:55.359 Materials that we have are. 1266 01:16:55.520 --> 01:17:00.680 Like for example, we had a X ray machine there 1267 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:03.920 at the shipyard that we would h X ray castings, 1268 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:09.439 and uh, these castings are like six foot thick, and 1269 01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:13.039 when it shot it it could do a X ray 1270 01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:17.439 shot in about five seconds. The entire walls of this 1271 01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:21.960 room were lined with ropes because once it was turned on, 1272 01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:26.840 you had three seconds to go to a wall pull 1273 01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:30.840 that rope to shut it all down. If not, you 1274 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:35.680 would actually get blasted with so much radiation that you 1275 01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:39.560 will have molecular death before your cells ever even have 1276 01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:41.000 a chance to mutate. 1277 01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:45.680 Yeah, and people don't understand that that's that is real science. 1278 01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:48.880 Yeah, and it's if I'm not mistaken, it might be 1279 01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:51.359 the strongest X ray machine in the world. 1280 01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:53.479 I believe it, ma'am. 1281 01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:55.319 So just out of cure. Is this the data that 1282 01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:58.720 you're talking about, Mike Markham, Yeah, okay, so it's a 1283 01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:01.359 tiny article. I just want to understand a little bit more. 1284 01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:03.000 But it says Mike market in. 1285 01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:05.000 His face, he looks like he's bugging out of his 1286 01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:06.840 mind right now. But at the same time, when you're 1287 01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:09.000 operating this high of a level, I mean, what is 1288 01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:10.439 normal at that point? 1289 01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:10.680 You know? 1290 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:13.920 I mean, bro, if you're teleporting yourself, you've probably seen 1291 01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:16.119 some shit, you know what I'm saying. But bro, he 1292 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:16.600 looks like. 1293 01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:17.079 He's seen that. 1294 01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:20.319 There's also probably a lot of static in that room. 1295 01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:24.199 Probably yeah, no doubt, so, it says Mike Markham, the 1296 01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:28.039 man who worked on a time machine and then mysteriously disappeared. 1297 01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:30.720 There are many stories in the world about very ingenious 1298 01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.439 people who have tried to create incredible technological devices capable 1299 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:38.039 of achieving what the scientific community tells us is impossible. 1300 01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:40.239 This is the case of Mike Markham, a man who 1301 01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:42.800 tried to create a time machine in his backyard, but 1302 01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:48.600 it mysteriously disappeared in early nineteen ninety five. Mike Madman Markham, 1303 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:52.399 he looks like the Madman. He attempted to build a 1304 01:18:52.439 --> 01:18:56.319 time machine and in the backyard of his home in Stanbury, Missouri. 1305 01:18:56.520 --> 01:19:00.880 He began creating a device called the Jacob's Ladder and 1306 01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:03.720 then it gets into the strained mechanism. He used a 1307 01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:07.720 modified compact disc laser to reduce the air resistance between 1308 01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:11.760 two poles. This would produce a continuous arc. You saw 1309 01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:15.279 an unusual result when you turned the device on. There 1310 01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:17.960 was a heat mark like you would see on hot pavement, 1311 01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:20.800 but it was circular in shape, like a vortex. So 1312 01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:24.359 he decided to throw a sheet metal bolt through the 1313 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:26.760 vortex to see what the effect would be and what 1314 01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:29.520 would happen. He claims that it disappeared for about a 1315 01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:32.560 half a second and reappeared a few feet away a 1316 01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:35.000 second later. At the time, he was only twenty one 1317 01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:38.439 years old and a student studying electrical engineering. Compared to 1318 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.960 his friends, you could say that Markham was quite intelligent. Apparently, 1319 01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:44.920 Markham tried to build a time machine because he wanted 1320 01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:49.319 to get future winning lottery numbers, as they all do. However, 1321 01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:51.760 it had one problem. It needed a lot of energy 1322 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:55.760 to work. After some more testing, the CD laser caught fire. 1323 01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.600 He figured that if he were to rebuild the machine again, 1324 01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:03.720 he might as well use larger transformers. His original plan 1325 01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:06.279 was to buy the transformers, but they were quite expensive. 1326 01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:09.319 He resorted to the alternative. The local power plant had 1327 01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:13.960 six old transformers, so Markham stole six transformers weighing over 1328 01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.119 three hundred pounds at a Saint Joseph Lytton power generating 1329 01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:20.439 station in King City, Missouri. While testing his experience, he 1330 01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:24.479 caused a massive blackout in several blocks of his neighborhood. 1331 01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:29.880 Moments later, Gentry County Sheriff Eugene Loopfer arrested him on 1332 01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:32.680 a warrant at his home on January twenty ninth, nineteen 1333 01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:36.600 ninety five, for stealing the transformers. His purpose is revealed. 1334 01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:39.840 After several months in prison, Markham was released and then 1335 01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:43.039 he was invited to be Art Bell's guest on Coast 1336 01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:46.880 to Coast, Oh Shit. Another Art Bel guest there, Mike 1337 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:49.359 told the story of the screw and his plans to 1338 01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:51.520 build a time machine. He promised that from now on 1339 01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:54.159 he would do it legally. Markham told Art that he 1340 01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:56.479 still had plans to do another experiment, but he had 1341 01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:58.920 no money or spare parts. During the interview, he gave 1342 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:02.399 out his phone number in received NonStop calls for three days. 1343 01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:04.920 The show really helped mark him a lot because many 1344 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.920 listeners shared ideas, funding, and spare parts needed to build 1345 01:21:07.920 --> 01:21:11.560 his long awaited device. With this help and donations from 1346 01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:15.800 his listeners, his next time machine project was more powerful 1347 01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.960 and much larger than the last. Although the original engine 1348 01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:21.920 ran at a kilowatt rate, this time it was designed 1349 01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:27.600 for three megawatts because he wanted to test the machine himself. Additionally, 1350 01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:32.960 Markham instaught a rotating magnetic field similar to the one 1351 01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:36.680 used by the US military in the Philadelphia experiment. He said, 1352 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:40.560 rotating magnetic fields are more effective and efficient. Art Bell 1353 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:43.439 had Mike Markham as a guest again a year later. 1354 01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:49.079 Markham claimed to be experimenting with a more sophisticated time machine. 1355 01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:52.680 The electromagnetic vortex was large enough for a man to enter. 1356 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:55.520 The interview ended with Markham stating that he was about 1357 01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:57.960 to generate the desired amount of voltage to make the 1358 01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:01.560 machine work. When asked what he would what he would 1359 01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:03.319 take with him if he were able to travel back 1360 01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:06.000 in time, Mike said that he would take his cell phone, 1361 01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:07.920 and at the end of the show, Mike decided to 1362 01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:11.039 give his address instead of his phone number. During Markham's 1363 01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:13.239 second and final appearance on The Art Bell Show in 1364 01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:15.760 nineteen ninety six, he said that he had thirty days 1365 01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:19.079 to complete his cool time machine. Since then, nothing has 1366 01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:22.039 been heard from Mike Markham. There are many rumors about 1367 01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:25.920 him on various forums, theorizing about his possible fate. Shortly 1368 01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:28.680 after Markham's disappearance, a listener called into The Art Bell 1369 01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:31.199 Show to tell him about a strange story. A strange 1370 01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:33.880 story that he had come across. In the nineteen thirties, 1371 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:36.920 police found a dead man on a California beach. He 1372 01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:39.680 was crushed to death in a strange metal tube. The 1373 01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:42.800 man was unrecognizable and the mysterious device was found near 1374 01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:45.279 his body. The caller said the device looked like a 1375 01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:50.560 cell phone. Was this man's corpse Markham himself, It's impossible 1376 01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:51.199 to determine. 1377 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:55.880 Holy shit, my god here. In two thousand and five, 1378 01:22:55.960 --> 01:22:58.319 Mike resurfaced on the Coast to Coast, claiming he was 1379 01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:00.600 alive and well, but his house in equipment were destroyed 1380 01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:03.920 in the fire. And then in twenty sixteen he moved 1381 01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:07.399 to Hawaii and launched a GoFundMe campaign to try to 1382 01:23:07.479 --> 01:23:10.560 recreate his experiment. And he's not been heard from since. 1383 01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:12.840 And maybe he started the fires. 1384 01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:20.439 Oh shit, the Maui fires were started by Mike Markham 1385 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:22.399 trying to jump into the future again. But at the 1386 01:23:22.439 --> 01:23:26.039 same time, he's gone silent since twenty sixteen, So is 1387 01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:29.439 it possible that he was able to complete the experiment 1388 01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:30.479 and make the time. 1389 01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:35.720 Jump at a It could also be because of maybe 1390 01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:39.600 some kind of gravitational force. Maybe he died but also lived. 1391 01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:44.239 Maybe he's in that uh, in that Matthew McConaughey dimension. 1392 01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:48.119 It could be my guy literally went to Mike. My 1393 01:23:48.199 --> 01:23:50.199 guy literally went to jail and said, when y'all let 1394 01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:51.680 me out, I'm just gonna do it again. 1395 01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:57.800 Fucking fucking do it again. And I mean, dude, if 1396 01:23:57.840 --> 01:23:59.359 you look at the picture of this guy, I mean 1397 01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:01.960 he clearly if he was going to school for electrical engineering, 1398 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:03.319 he was trying to do this. He had some sort 1399 01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:08.399 of brain power. He he he looks. 1400 01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:13.279 All he needed that all he needed was white hair 1401 01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:17.520 and some hair gel and literally Doc Jones. 1402 01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:19.760 Give him a lab coat and let him be an 1403 01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:21.960 alcohol like that motherfucker is rick. 1404 01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:22.800 There we go. 1405 01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:28.239 But yeah, I love it people that don't have the 1406 01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:32.199 title of scientists like they they do crazy shit all 1407 01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:33.640 the time, and a lot of time it works. 1408 01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:37.600 So there's also a lot of times in those experiments, 1409 01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.119 not just with electricity, but there's a lot of times 1410 01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:43.319 when shit really goes south when people fuck around like that. 1411 01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:45.640 Oh yeah, absolutely was that one. 1412 01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:47.960 It was like a middle school kid that accidentally created 1413 01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:49.640 a nuclear reactor in his backyard. 1414 01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:52.680 Yeah, there was another guy that created one on purpose. 1415 01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:58.319 And then oddly enough, in shop classes, people accidentally create 1416 01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:03.720 hydrogen bombs like pretty often, like just small, but they 1417 01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:07.920 still have a pretty good destructive force. And I was 1418 01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:10.039 I was very upset when I first started getting into 1419 01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:13.479 the conspiracy community and I found out about the Philadelphia experiment. 1420 01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:18.359 So my grandfather was working at the shipyard at the time, 1421 01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:21.119 which the one he was working out is actually right 1422 01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:26.560 across the river from the one that the ship teleported too. 1423 01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:31.000 And then went back and I asked him. You know, 1424 01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:34.359 first of all, I'm I waited a little bit because 1425 01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:36.319 I was a little bit sketched out about asking my 1426 01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:40.760 very very Christian grandfather if he heard anything about the 1427 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:45.359 ship that teleported. So finally, once I got the balls 1428 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:47.920 to ask him about it, he sadly he didn't remember 1429 01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:49.119 hearing anything about it. 1430 01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:54.119 Why Christianity doesn't have a dog in the fight on transportation. 1431 01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:58.720 Old old Christianity views like Bible thumper, like to the 1432 01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:05.560 max of uh that is dinner table or you're gonna 1433 01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:07.479 get possibly backhanded. 1434 01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:12.439 Yeah it must be the devil, Yeah, gotcha, those types. 1435 01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:17.159 Yeah. He I mean, everybody gets older better with age, 1436 01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:20.039 and he he mellowed out. And I think a lot 1437 01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:23.079 of it too, was not necessarily him actually being like that, 1438 01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:25.880 but me being a young kid and seeing like a 1439 01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:28.960 stern man, it just gave me that vibe kind of 1440 01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:30.760 like you you know, you don't want to bring any 1441 01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:32.439 dumb shit to your grandpa, you know what I mean? 1442 01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:34.239 Yeah, I feel that. 1443 01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:41.479 So going on to the Coriolis effect, So there's a 1444 01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:43.800 lot of aspects that go into this, Like you could 1445 01:26:43.800 --> 01:26:47.399 talk about weather patterns, you could talk about how the 1446 01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:54.000 rotation might go into affecting a projectile's path. I really 1447 01:26:54.039 --> 01:26:57.359 wish that they would actually separate these two things because like, yes, 1448 01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:01.560 it's caused by the same thing to say, but it 1449 01:27:01.720 --> 01:27:04.199 I feel like there really is a separation between weather 1450 01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:05.760 patterns and projectiles. 1451 01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:10.199 There is. Wait, I've never heard this be equated to 1452 01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:12.159 equal things. 1453 01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:16.079 Right, and it's a I guess like the effect can 1454 01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:19.880 cause them both and that's why they lope it into 1455 01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:24.439 the same thing. But I'm gonna be honest. As far 1456 01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:27.560 as the weather patterns, I think it is pretty easy 1457 01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:32.119 to say that it could be temperature differences along with 1458 01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:37.920 pressure differences that cause storms in different areas to rotate 1459 01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:42.680 in different directions with cooler errors coming up. So as 1460 01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:44.960 far as the flat earth thing goes, I feel like 1461 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:48.640 they might have accidentally fell into like an easy one there. 1462 01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:52.159 You've seen the experiment with the water on one side 1463 01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:54.239 of the equator, versus the other. And then on the 1464 01:27:54.279 --> 01:27:55.159 equator right. 1465 01:27:55.960 --> 01:28:00.439 Where it goes down like how it actually rotates. 1466 01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:03.079 Yeah, you like stops the water and you see it stagnant. 1467 01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:05.119 He pulls the plug out the bottom, and on one 1468 01:28:05.159 --> 01:28:07.159 side of the line it goes one way, he stops 1469 01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:08.399 it and does it. On the other side it goes 1470 01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:10.079 the other way. And if you go on the equator, 1471 01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:11.960 there's no spin. It just goes straight down. 1472 01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:14.600 Yeah, So that's been proven to be fake. It doesn't. 1473 01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:17.680 It has to do with the actual shapes and where 1474 01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:21.600 the water is poured in at and how the angles 1475 01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.760 and directions of the drains work. Same thing with the toilets. 1476 01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:27.840 So that's actually not the Coriolis effect whatsoever. 1477 01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:30.399 I'm not No, not the way he pours it in 1478 01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:32.119 and then hits it, like he puts a little thing 1479 01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.079 in the middle of divider and stops it and he 1480 01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:36.079 like waits for him to get completely stagnant and then 1481 01:28:36.079 --> 01:28:39.520 pulls it from the bottom. That's been proven false. Yeah, okay. 1482 01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:43.760 And then as far as the projectile. 1483 01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:49.479 I I will admit that projectiles definitely do have a 1484 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:53.760 Magnus effect to him, maybe not as much as some 1485 01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:55.920 of the more spherical things. Like whenever you throw like 1486 01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:58.000 a curveball. I guess that would be the easiest way 1487 01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:01.279 to uh describe it. Magnus effect to where there's a 1488 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.960 pressure difference on the other side which causes it to curve. 1489 01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:09.680 I would say that projectiles do have a Magnus effect, 1490 01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:12.520 but because of their actual like streamline, I'm going to 1491 01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:18.079 say it's probably not a lot so that I would 1492 01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:20.640 find it hard to believe that they would prove the 1493 01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:26.479 projectile thing as not being caused by rotation. Now, whether 1494 01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:30.520 they want to say the flat disc itself is rotating, 1495 01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:34.520 I mean, however they want to say it, because like 1496 01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:39.680 I said, I'm I'm pointing out holes on both sides. 1497 01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:44.880 My thing with the Coriolis effect with as far as 1498 01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:48.880 projectiles go, take away rifles, any kind of those shots 1499 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:52.000 look at like artillery, right, look at like naval batteries, 1500 01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:56.439 things like this. They absolutely have to account for the 1501 01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:59.359 rotation of the earth. When it's a long shot like 1502 01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:03.560 over my not you know, a couple thousand meters even 1503 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:05.439 like it has to be a very long shot to 1504 01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:07.399 even make that worth it. 1505 01:30:07.479 --> 01:30:12.399 But at that point in time, you're talking about, oh, 1506 01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.159 we we can get into it after this, because I'm 1507 01:30:15.159 --> 01:30:17.359 gonna end up getting into curvature after this. 1508 01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:23.479 Okay, this is from JOHNS Hopkins, Yeah, Johns Hopkins newsletter. 1509 01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:28.920 But it says water does indeed indeed drain clockwise clockwise 1510 01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:32.640 fuck me, in the Southern hemisphere. It also drains counterclockwise 1511 01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:35.560 in the Southern Hemisphere. In fact, it drains whichever way 1512 01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:40.600 it desires, it desires, regardless of geographical locale. M So 1513 01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.199 there you go, debummed. 1514 01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:50.640 Right, So what we know about curvature is that it's 1515 01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:54.800 eight inches per miles squares right, allegedly. 1516 01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.680 Allegedly. Fuck. 1517 01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:01.520 I always try to remember what the the ancient alien 1518 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:02.319 guys say. 1519 01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:06.720 But aliens, yeah, yeah, thank you. 1520 01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:07.560 I love that guy. 1521 01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:11.600 I love like he became a meme and then found 1522 01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:13.760 a way to capitalize on that and now he just 1523 01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:16.520 goes around to comic cons and just does the thing 1524 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:18.720 and like makes the money. I am not mad at 1525 01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:19.479 him for that, Like. 1526 01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:23.840 Good for him, you know, no, absolutely not. So one 1527 01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:27.479 thing that I find interesting about this I remember was 1528 01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:32.359 it was it Dave that brought up that picture that 1529 01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:36.159 he had to where the city skyline was like so 1530 01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:39.640 far of a distance away from him, and they would 1531 01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:45.359 say like it was because of a superior mirage. That 1532 01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:46.960 was the reason why you could see it. 1533 01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:49.439 Yeah, I think I remember him saying it for sure. 1534 01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:50.840 I don't know if he's the first to come up 1535 01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:53.840 with this, but we definitely had that conversation for sure. 1536 01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:54.399 Yeah. 1537 01:31:54.439 --> 01:31:58.520 So if anybody has a picture that they actually want 1538 01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:01.920 to test this on and they can know the distance 1539 01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:05.479 between like where you took the picture and where that 1540 01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:09.239 you know building is, so of course we have the 1541 01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:14.239 equation for curvature to determine like how far down it 1542 01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:18.039 will be. We actually have two different equations for the 1543 01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:20.760 superior mirage. We have a simplified one which can be 1544 01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:24.479 used for everyday typical weather like where you have just 1545 01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:29.560 your standard sunny day, not really high humidity or not 1546 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:33.159 really high like you know, moisture in the air, storms 1547 01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:38.399 coming in, whatever. And then we have the complicated equation 1548 01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:42.640 where you start factoring and the different things that can reflect, 1549 01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:49.119 refract light, all of that stuff. In your typical fashion 1550 01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:56.880 of having the simplified equation, it really only increases the 1551 01:32:56.920 --> 01:33:00.960 mirage that you see by a couple feet, like if 1552 01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:04.520 you have like a eighty foot building that you're seeing, 1553 01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:08.359 and it should be like say, for instance, ten ten 1554 01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:12.880 feet below the curvature on your typical day, you're not 1555 01:33:12.920 --> 01:33:15.319 going to see that. It would have to be the 1556 01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:17.960 weather would actually have to be almost so bad that 1557 01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.039 you weren't going to see it to begin with because 1558 01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:23.880 of the amount of shit in the air. So I 1559 01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:27.560 wish I could actually like get all of that information. 1560 01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:29.399 I tried to find it, but I didn't remember how 1561 01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.560 long ago it was. But then again you would have 1562 01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:35.159 to go through what kind of humidity they had at 1563 01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:38.439 the time. So if you're someone like in you know 1564 01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:40.720 that time to where you take that picture, you want 1565 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:42.920 to see whether you should be able to see that 1566 01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:47.399 or not because of a superior mirage. There's a simple 1567 01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:53.399 equation for it, and I can tell you that a 1568 01:33:53.439 --> 01:34:00.680 lot of the time you shouldn't see it because, like 1569 01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:04.479 I said, it to the max it could It could 1570 01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:07.079 double the height of the building. Like if you had 1571 01:34:07.079 --> 01:34:09.640 an eighty foot building and the weather was that bad 1572 01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:13.840 to where it is refracting that much, Yeah, it could 1573 01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:17.359 now be a one hundred and fifty foot building, like 1574 01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:22.119 meaning that you see, you know, sixty feet going above 1575 01:34:22.279 --> 01:34:29.399 the horizon. But for a typical day, yeah, it's only 1576 01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:35.119 going to go up maybe a foot and I so 1577 01:34:35.199 --> 01:34:40.840 I remembered one of the situations you were talking about, 1578 01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:47.520 was what was that admiral that was associating Corrielist effect 1579 01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:48.840 with him hitting his shots? 1580 01:34:49.239 --> 01:34:52.640 Chung Lee. Yeah, so I I should say that. And 1581 01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:54.520 that's not his real name. It was a nickname because 1582 01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:58.039 he kind of had the squinty eyes and ya, but 1583 01:34:58.119 --> 01:34:58.720 he wrote with it. 1584 01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:02.760 Yeah, So that actually made me go into a whole 1585 01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:11.119 entire investigation of that situation itself. So oh yeah, and 1586 01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:16.159 at I couldn't find where he was attributing the Coriolis 1587 01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:19.239 effect to like him hitting the shots. But I was like, 1588 01:35:19.880 --> 01:35:23.960 I know for a fact that Jacob has probably seen 1589 01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:28.560 and read an immeasurable amount more than me on military shit. 1590 01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:31.159 So I got no doubt in my mind that's somewhere 1591 01:35:31.399 --> 01:35:34.359 like they have him saying that, because he probably did. 1592 01:35:35.039 --> 01:35:40.399 But I actually started doing the distance that they were 1593 01:35:40.439 --> 01:35:45.439 taking the shots, the radar effects at the time, all 1594 01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:48.840 of that stuff, because World War two was actually a 1595 01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:53.319 revolutionary time as far as naval battles, because that was 1596 01:35:53.399 --> 01:35:56.039 the war that we had the most battles at night, 1597 01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:59.920 meaning that we relied more on radar for those situations. 1598 01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:04.920 We had like all of the US battleships had new 1599 01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:10.640 guns put on them that were completely like a whole 1600 01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:14.800 new grade above what we had before. Yeah, so I 1601 01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:18.560 ended up looking at a list of all of the 1602 01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:20.680 different naval battles that they had at the time. So 1603 01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.479 because of nighttime battles, because of new armament, they of 1604 01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:29.399 course were taking way longer shots than what they typically would. 1605 01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:36.720 So for example, the longest shot confirmed shot that anybody 1606 01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:44.159 had it was thirty two thousand yards, So that ends 1607 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:48.520 up being two hundred and twenty feet. 1608 01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:48.760 Below the horizon. 1609 01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:57.399 You could say that maybe they just accidentally fired, but 1610 01:36:57.399 --> 01:36:59.560 I'm gonna tell you now there there's no way in 1611 01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:01.279 hell that you knew that that boat was there to 1612 01:37:01.279 --> 01:37:04.920 begin with. Because the thing is, and like I told 1613 01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:09.560 you before, yes, all of the people that try to 1614 01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:13.479 measure curvature with light, that doesn't fucking work because we 1615 01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:19.079 know for a fact light bends with gravity. Sonar bounces 1616 01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:22.720 all around, and it also will get affected by gravity 1617 01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:30.680 to some extent. Radar itself working off of microwaves, those 1618 01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:35.680 do not get affected by gravity, you could say, either 1619 01:37:35.880 --> 01:37:41.760 at all or barely whatsoever. That's why we can calculate 1620 01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:45.560 like solar rays and stuff like that to the extent 1621 01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:49.640 that we can. The issue is is that the radar 1622 01:37:49.720 --> 01:37:52.680 that they had mounted to the top of the ship 1623 01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:56.159 that they had that is also not going to see 1624 01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:58.720 two hundred and twenty feet over the curvature. So there's 1625 01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:00.600 no fucking way you knew that what was there. 1626 01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:03.920 He was using it. The example I was talking about 1627 01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:07.119 was him using it to hit land buildings and things 1628 01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:11.199 like that. So he started he revolutionized the way that 1629 01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:14.960 naval artillery is used to affect the ground troops. And 1630 01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.119 don't get me wrong, he also won a slew of 1631 01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:21.359 naval battles ship to ship warfare. But he was basically 1632 01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:23.479 using the long guns on the naval ship to be 1633 01:38:24.239 --> 01:38:27.399 artillery from the sea. So he was hitting a stagnant 1634 01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:31.720 target by using the measurements, and he didn't he didn't 1635 01:38:31.720 --> 01:38:35.319 attribute his success strictly to the Coriolis effect. The thing 1636 01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:38.199 was that he was so far away from this target 1637 01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:40.680 that if he was just shooting it like it was stagnant, 1638 01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:43.680 he was missing when he started accounting for and leading 1639 01:38:43.720 --> 01:38:45.960 the target based off of where it would be when 1640 01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:48.359 you account for the hangtime with the projectile, which we 1641 01:38:48.359 --> 01:38:50.880 would now call the Coriolis effect, where it's going to 1642 01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:53.079 be that's where that came from. 1643 01:38:53.119 --> 01:38:55.600 Right, and yeah, and that makes sense. This is the 1644 01:38:56.319 --> 01:38:58.560 ones that I was looking at. These were all like 1645 01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:01.079 naval battles ship versus ship. 1646 01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:03.159 So a ship that. 1647 01:39:03.199 --> 01:39:06.840 Is two hundred and twenty feet below curvature, your radar 1648 01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:10.199 is not seeing it. You're not seeing it because obviously 1649 01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:13.119 even with a sphear of mirage, like you're not gonna 1650 01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:14.640 it's not gonna be going up that high. 1651 01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:17.079 Would my planes be able to radio back and give 1652 01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:18.840 you the exact location on those though? 1653 01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.800 That could be possible, but that was not in the reports. 1654 01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:28.800 Okay, that's fair, and it's it's not an aircraft carry 1655 01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:29.560 he was only destroyer. 1656 01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:29.800 Ya. 1657 01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:32.039 I mean, you know, I figured there would be communication 1658 01:39:32.199 --> 01:39:34.159 throughout it's like a long ship. 1659 01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:38.640 Yeah, and there could be, but it's it's not just 1660 01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:41.720 this was the longest one. The average was about twenty 1661 01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:46.039 thousand yards where they were getting confirmed hits. That leaves 1662 01:39:46.079 --> 01:39:49.640 curvature to about eighty to one hundred feet, which is 1663 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:55.119 still higher than the tallest ship during the during World 1664 01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:59.600 War Two was the Yamamoto, which was about seventy feet 1665 01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:04.600 without antennas, and antennas are too small with the rounded 1666 01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:07.840 bars and all of that to accurately reflect back radar. 1667 01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:11.079 So the eighty to one hundred feet or the two 1668 01:40:11.159 --> 01:40:13.720 hundred feet that you're talking about, that would be the 1669 01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:17.439 height at which it wouldn't be you know, wide eighty 1670 01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:20.039 two one hundred feetorwo hundred feet you're talking about. They 1671 01:40:20.079 --> 01:40:23.439 would have to angle that bullet or whatever they're shooting 1672 01:40:24.359 --> 01:40:29.119 almost downward, or have some kind of peace of mind 1673 01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:31.439 that would say, all right, I'm gonna arch this bullet 1674 01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:34.239 up so high to account for the two hundred feet 1675 01:40:34.359 --> 01:40:37.039 of curvature of where they're at. 1676 01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:39.279 Yeah, and. 1677 01:40:41.079 --> 01:40:44.800 So I was watching a video of this guy. He 1678 01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:54.079 ended up writing a long range shooting like book. Basically 1679 01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:56.880 whenever he was going into like using the Coriolis effect, 1680 01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:02.239 it the Corellils effect itself, even whether you have a 1681 01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:05.119 small round or something as large as what they were 1682 01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:09.439 using on the ships at the time, the effects of 1683 01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:14.479 the Coriolis effect on these actual rounds going through the air. Yes, 1684 01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:17.239 if the earth is rotating, it does have an effect 1685 01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:23.640 on it. But you're talking about a very minuscule effect 1686 01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:29.479 comparative to wind patterns, comparative to you know, air pressures, 1687 01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:35.319 comparative to any other thing affecting those So like the 1688 01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:39.239 classic examples of the guys that were that have like 1689 01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:43.399 the longest like actual rifle shots, like you know, of 1690 01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:48.079 course American, I'm bringing up Chris Kyle. All of their 1691 01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:51.000 shots one, none of them ever hit the person on 1692 01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:51.920 the first shot. 1693 01:41:52.319 --> 01:41:52.520 Two. 1694 01:41:55.439 --> 01:42:00.079 Never once were they actually accounting for Coriolis effect. They 1695 01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:04.399 were actually measuring wind speeds, measuring where their other shot hit. 1696 01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:07.880 Because it it literally was like like you remember whenever 1697 01:42:07.840 --> 01:42:10.680 we were younger and we were fucking playing tanks on computer, 1698 01:42:11.039 --> 01:42:14.000 you know, in fucking school and shit, and you shoot 1699 01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:15.720 your first shot and you see where it was, and 1700 01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:16.600 then you're adjusting it. 1701 01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:17.239 You know, that's what. 1702 01:42:17.319 --> 01:42:20.760 Them and their spotter are doing. It's you're not going 1703 01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:23.079 to hit that shot on the first try, obviously if 1704 01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:26.880 you're shooting at you know, two thousand yards, because there's 1705 01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:30.640 so much there's so many other variables that are affecting 1706 01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:35.680 it other than the Coriolis effect itself. Now, if you're 1707 01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:38.239 shooting at a target like what Jacob was talking about, 1708 01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:43.439 to where one they are not only stationary, but you 1709 01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:49.720 obviously can can You're going a lot lot longer distance 1710 01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:53.640 of like thirty thousand yards, yeah, obviously at that point 1711 01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:57.840 in time, you want to do Coriolis effect type equations 1712 01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:01.760 to figure out where it can go. But there's so 1713 01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:06.640 many other factors that go into it. But my main 1714 01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:13.079 issue is the curvature itself, not even talking about the 1715 01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:16.399 Coriolist effect, but the curvature of like, you know, you 1716 01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:21.119 taking a thirty to twenty thousand yard shot, you know 1717 01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:24.359 you're talking about one hundred to two hundred feet of 1718 01:43:24.399 --> 01:43:28.840 curvature of you not seeing that ship whatsoever, of most 1719 01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:32.199 of the things being at nighttime, I'm just none of 1720 01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:37.079 the information was there about maybe you know, aerial assistance 1721 01:43:37.479 --> 01:43:43.720 or another ship being in the area. So I will 1722 01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:47.319 look further into it to see if they have anything 1723 01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:49.119 in there about it, but as of right now, I 1724 01:43:49.159 --> 01:43:50.880 did not see anything in there about that. 1725 01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:54.840 So he actually had to get with the Naval Ordinance 1726 01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:57.880 Group and tell them that their charts were incorrect because 1727 01:43:57.880 --> 01:44:00.479 he was able to accurately make shots at ten miles 1728 01:44:00.479 --> 01:44:03.960 away and they were saying that can't be because these 1729 01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:05.840 charts show this, and he was like, Okay, I guess 1730 01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:08.479 I'm fucking wrong. Hey, let me know what's about to happen, 1731 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:11.239 and this, you know, I'm telling you the man was 1732 01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:15.399 another level of weaponized autism. 1733 01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.039 And I'm not gonna lie to you. I also thought 1734 01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:22.239 of the idea of is this science being wrong or 1735 01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:27.359 is this military pledging numbers? Yeah, you know, kind of like, oh, 1736 01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:29.159 look at how big this fucking fish I caught. 1737 01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:32.199 Uh huh, Look I'll tell you what. Go check out 1738 01:44:32.279 --> 01:44:35.279 the fat electrician. He did a video on ching Lee 1739 01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:38.640 and he talked about how this happened over the course 1740 01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:41.119 of time where basically the Navy had to decide, look, 1741 01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:44.359 if the man said he's doing this, let him fucking go. 1742 01:44:44.560 --> 01:44:46.520 Because he had a lot of haters. He had a 1743 01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:48.279 lot of people that were saying like, oh, that can't 1744 01:44:48.319 --> 01:44:50.800 be well, that's why do you need those types of 1745 01:44:50.800 --> 01:44:53.159 guns on that ship. He's like, cause I fucking said, so, 1746 01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:54.560 now give me what I asked for. And then he 1747 01:44:54.680 --> 01:44:58.000 kept getting w's So they were like, hey, hey, we're 1748 01:44:58.039 --> 01:45:00.840 just gonna let your man rock because in that time, yeah, 1749 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:04.439 you still had the old school military ways of things 1750 01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:06.159 where they wanted to structure in the order and you 1751 01:45:06.199 --> 01:45:08.239 have to do this and get it approved by these 1752 01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:10.439 people and do And then there was the guys that 1753 01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:14.079 were like, hey, listen, listen, is he winning, then let 1754 01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:17.399 him fucking ride. So it was I highly advise people 1755 01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:19.760 to go check him out. Also, I'll shamelessly plug him 1756 01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:23.039 the Fat Electrician on YouTube. Go subscribe. He's fucking great 1757 01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:26.680 and he's hilarious. But anyway, yeah, no, you go, that's 1758 01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:28.000 a it. 1759 01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:30.079 It's kind of an up, up and down of like 1760 01:45:30.279 --> 01:45:33.199 figuring out, you know, when you're looking at documents like this, 1761 01:45:33.239 --> 01:45:36.359 because I mean, obviously we know that history may not 1762 01:45:36.680 --> 01:45:39.920 all be alive, but there's definitely lies in there. So 1763 01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:43.039 what does it matter if you know they confirmed a 1764 01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:46.159 shot that you know, wasn't as far as they actually 1765 01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:51.000 said it was, especially because I think the longest one 1766 01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:56.439 actually wasn't a American ship if I'm not mistaken, It 1767 01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:59.000 was a Japanese ship that actually hit that distance. 1768 01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:00.640 Damn. 1769 01:46:01.079 --> 01:46:02.640 I mean, there is a lot of factors that would 1770 01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:05.119 go into that, like you know, obviously the weight of 1771 01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:09.159 the bullet, the force in whenever that force starts to die, 1772 01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:11.720 there's gonna you know, you have to add that kind 1773 01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:14.319 of math into it. And then there's also like the 1774 01:46:14.399 --> 01:46:17.439 atmosphere and you're dealing with mist off the oceans and 1775 01:46:17.479 --> 01:46:20.359 the winds that are all coming in. So for this 1776 01:46:20.479 --> 01:46:23.239 guy just to say, oh yeah, I was. I was 1777 01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:26.880 calculating the Coriolis effect, and every time I was pinpoint 1778 01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:30.119 spot on, it's like, all right there, gipper, I'm just 1779 01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:32.079 gonna take a word for it at that point. 1780 01:46:33.079 --> 01:46:34.560 But at the same time it hits a hit. 1781 01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:36.800 Oh yeah, sure. 1782 01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:41.600 And I interestingly enough, a lot of the time back then, 1783 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:45.560 with it being more nighttime battles, there was a lot 1784 01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:51.920 more friendly fire. M So who's to say who was 1785 01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:56.680 claiming shots that they didn't even shoot. So this is 1786 01:46:56.800 --> 01:47:00.119 one part that I was actually I started doing and 1787 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:06.159 more investigating in because I'm not gonna say that I 1788 01:47:06.239 --> 01:47:06.640 want to. 1789 01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:08.399 Encourage the Flat Earth. 1790 01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:12.960 Group, but I do want to try to point them 1791 01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:19.119 in more physics directions. So like, for example, through the 1792 01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:24.960 theory of general relativity, we understand that the Earth doesn't 1793 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:28.800 have to be spinning to have gravity. It doesn't necessarily 1794 01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:32.319 have to be a certain shape to have gravity. 1795 01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:34.479 It just needs to be heavy as fuck. 1796 01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:39.399 So you know, you could have whatever type of shape 1797 01:47:39.399 --> 01:47:42.279 that you could argue that if it does have corners, 1798 01:47:42.399 --> 01:47:48.119 then it could create some kind of gravitational anomalies to 1799 01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:50.960 where you would have a you know, a spike of 1800 01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:55.439 gravity in this area because of the shape or indent 1801 01:47:55.560 --> 01:48:02.439 that it is leaving in space time itself. But we know, 1802 01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:06.199 I don't understand how they can confirm this one hundred 1803 01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:09.279 percent still this day, because we've been what twelve I 1804 01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:11.640 think it's twelve miles into the crust. That's the furthest 1805 01:48:11.640 --> 01:48:15.479 we've actually physically gone. But we know our core is 1806 01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:21.640 mainly made up of iron and nickel, right, and these two, 1807 01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:26.319 along with the other things that are in there being 1808 01:48:26.359 --> 01:48:31.000 heated up at a large fucking amount. They're hot of shit, 1809 01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:38.479 creating currents inside of more dense things you know, of 1810 01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:42.079 course going to the bottom or to the center. I 1811 01:48:42.079 --> 01:48:45.359 guess you could say lighter things going to the top. 1812 01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:50.239 It creates convection currents which interacts with the outer core, 1813 01:48:50.920 --> 01:48:57.119 which then causes a dynamo effect, and that effect causes 1814 01:48:57.279 --> 01:49:02.960 the actual elector magnetic field that we get, right, which 1815 01:49:03.079 --> 01:49:10.479 actually the the Earth is considered to be a dipole magnet. Yeah, 1816 01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:18.359 the field itself is actually called a longitudinal field. The 1817 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:23.800 way it goes is magnetism on the outside flows from 1818 01:49:24.439 --> 01:49:28.439 north to south, and then on the inside flows south 1819 01:49:28.479 --> 01:49:28.920 to north. 1820 01:49:29.960 --> 01:49:30.920 The issue like. 1821 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:34.279 A double toroid image Jonathan, do you pull up all 1822 01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:36.239 the time if you were to equate that to the 1823 01:49:36.279 --> 01:49:38.199 magnetism of the Earth. I think that's kind of what 1824 01:49:38.199 --> 01:49:39.000 you're going with here. 1825 01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:40.560 And that's what can you can you pull that up 1826 01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:44.359 real quick because I'm trying to remember what it looked like. 1827 01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:46.279 Like a donut basically with the Earth not at the center, 1828 01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:49.960 but kind of it's like a doughnut that is within 1829 01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:54.359 and eating the Earth at the same time. Yeah, and 1830 01:49:54.399 --> 01:49:57.199 I've always and that's the thing too, Like you said, 1831 01:49:57.199 --> 01:50:00.880 the whole if the Earth had corners like it could 1832 01:50:00.880 --> 01:50:02.640 have its own gravity, and if it was big enough, 1833 01:50:02.680 --> 01:50:05.720 which is true. But if this was the Earth and 1834 01:50:05.800 --> 01:50:08.840 gravity being what we know now, and mass and these 1835 01:50:08.880 --> 01:50:11.239 things being what it is, the heaviest point of it 1836 01:50:11.239 --> 01:50:13.479 would be at the center. And if that was the case, 1837 01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:18.880 the gravity from all sides would collapse itself to this essentially. 1838 01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:22.600 And we are actually about to get into that because 1839 01:50:22.640 --> 01:50:26.840 there is an issue that I have with modern science. 1840 01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:31.840 So the issue with the. 1841 01:50:30.760 --> 01:50:35.359 Toy, I'm gonna fuck up saying it to tor Rope, 1842 01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:41.720 please thank you, all right, got you, Doug. So I'm 1843 01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:44.800 curious as to what is causing the separation there of 1844 01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:50.199 the negative and positive field, because through magnetism, we know 1845 01:50:50.359 --> 01:50:52.520 that those two would actually flow together. 1846 01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:55.600 Would that be the same as saying, what's causing the 1847 01:50:55.600 --> 01:50:58.680 separation between a north pole and a south pole on 1848 01:50:58.840 --> 01:50:59.920 a magnet. 1849 01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:03.640 Well, that's basically what that's the So the field right 1850 01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:07.960 here is exactly what we have, except of the separation 1851 01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:08.640 through the middle. 1852 01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:11.920 But a magnet has a middle point, right that is 1853 01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:14.600 not north or south. Now it's like that very line 1854 01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:16.760 that we would maybe think of maybe the equator or 1855 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:18.079 am I completely off base here? 1856 01:51:18.720 --> 01:51:22.640 No, So there there is a even flow. So there 1857 01:51:22.720 --> 01:51:27.840 is no like literal, no magnetism part at all. 1858 01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:31.359 Yeah, I guess that's true. When you put a magnet 1859 01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:33.800 in the middle of some iron shavings, they create the toroids, 1860 01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:35.000 but there's no line in the middle. 1861 01:51:35.039 --> 01:51:38.000 I'm with you, right, So this, this field itself would 1862 01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:44.000 actually flow into itself and it would go if you 1863 01:51:44.079 --> 01:51:46.479 flip it upside down. That's actually what we would have 1864 01:51:47.279 --> 01:51:51.119 because we know that the poles have switched whatever. That's 1865 01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:54.880 why the so our geographic north pole is actually our 1866 01:51:55.920 --> 01:52:01.159 magnetic south pole. Mm. That's why you see like the 1867 01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:05.279 flow actually goes from the bottom up. It's because it 1868 01:52:05.319 --> 01:52:07.800 flows from north to south on the outside and south 1869 01:52:07.840 --> 01:52:09.319 to north on the inside. 1870 01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:11.119 I'm with you. 1871 01:52:11.239 --> 01:52:14.359 It's actually the same as the like the human energy field. 1872 01:52:14.560 --> 01:52:16.560 Not to get too woo woo here, but I know 1873 01:52:16.640 --> 01:52:20.319 that like during like if you do like some certain 1874 01:52:20.359 --> 01:52:25.760 kind of guided meditations and you imagine that there is 1875 01:52:25.800 --> 01:52:28.479 some kind of energy that is going from the top 1876 01:52:28.520 --> 01:52:31.359 of your head down through your body down to your feet, 1877 01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:34.760 and then you're supposed to picture that that energy is 1878 01:52:34.800 --> 01:52:36.960 going through you and around you and then back up 1879 01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:40.479 through the top again. And you know that's just like 1880 01:52:41.119 --> 01:52:42.600 I don't know, I like that kind of shit. 1881 01:52:42.680 --> 01:52:43.760 That's so yeah. 1882 01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:48.520 So scientifically, that's how we know magnetism itself works. That's 1883 01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.000 literally how it works, which is weird. 1884 01:52:52.199 --> 01:52:52.439 Yeah. 1885 01:52:52.479 --> 01:52:56.239 And it's another fun fact. Did you know that literally 1886 01:52:56.960 --> 01:52:59.000 everything can be magnetized. 1887 01:53:01.279 --> 01:53:01.760 I did not. 1888 01:53:02.319 --> 01:53:03.119 Yeah, everything. 1889 01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:09.560 So magnetism all it is is a organization of particles. 1890 01:53:11.319 --> 01:53:15.760 That's why if you smack something that's magnetic super fucking 1891 01:53:15.840 --> 01:53:19.479 hard with like a hammer or whatever, it actually will 1892 01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:23.399 reduce the magnetism because you're shaking up the particles. If 1893 01:53:23.439 --> 01:53:27.000 you heat it up, then it completely right, right, because 1894 01:53:27.039 --> 01:53:32.600 the particles start moving around because heat is energy. Particles 1895 01:53:32.640 --> 01:53:36.600 have energy, they move around more so they become unorganized. 1896 01:53:37.359 --> 01:53:42.640 So magnetism is only all it is is the particles 1897 01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:47.439 becoming aligned and orientated. So you can magnetize a piece 1898 01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:51.000 of wood anything. You just have to have a strong 1899 01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:54.680 enough magnetizing force. So like for example, when you do 1900 01:53:56.159 --> 01:54:00.720 magnetic are electromagnetic testing with like empty to test welds 1901 01:54:00.760 --> 01:54:06.319 for like defects, cracks, whatever. So the Earth itself has 1902 01:54:06.359 --> 01:54:13.680 a at the poles a sixty microtesla's magnetic force, Like 1903 01:54:13.720 --> 01:54:16.840 that's how strong the magnetic field is at the equator. 1904 01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:25.199 It's about thirty. That is relatively weak for a magnetic 1905 01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:28.640 field like something we hold in our hand can easily 1906 01:54:28.680 --> 01:54:34.319 put out like one hundred, two hundred, seven hundred microteslas. 1907 01:54:35.039 --> 01:54:40.600 We have things that put out mega teslas. So actually, 1908 01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:44.039 if the another odd fact, if the Earth's magnetic field 1909 01:54:44.159 --> 01:54:48.880 was strong enough, it would actually start collecting iron inside 1910 01:54:48.880 --> 01:54:50.159 of the Grand Canyon. 1911 01:54:51.399 --> 01:54:53.000 Because that gap. 1912 01:54:53.119 --> 01:54:59.279 So magnetism flows across the surface first and then it 1913 01:54:59.399 --> 01:55:02.079 starts bas clee bowing out. So we have magnetism all 1914 01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:06.560 across the surface of the planet that actually will create 1915 01:55:06.760 --> 01:55:11.399 a new there and there is a new north and 1916 01:55:11.479 --> 01:55:16.000 south pole inside of gaps. So for example, the Grand Canyon, 1917 01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:19.800 so there is actually another north and south pole inside 1918 01:55:19.800 --> 01:55:23.079 of that. But the issue is that the magnetic field 1919 01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:24.920 is so weak that it's it's not going to be 1920 01:55:24.920 --> 01:55:26.640 strong enough to pull anything to it. 1921 01:55:29.079 --> 01:55:33.000 Wow, I've never heard that before. You're talking about like 1922 01:55:33.199 --> 01:55:35.199 when you bring a compass down there starts going to 1923 01:55:35.239 --> 01:55:35.920 a different direction. 1924 01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:39.520 Yeah, so it because of you. So if you go 1925 01:55:39.680 --> 01:55:40.119 to the. 1926 01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:45.560 I think it's the north side, because of how our 1927 01:55:46.119 --> 01:55:52.359 magnetic field works. If the magnetic field inside of wherever 1928 01:55:52.399 --> 01:55:55.800 you're at is stronger, yes, it could end up showing 1929 01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:56.840 north as being south. 1930 01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:01.319 Wow. That is insane. 1931 01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:04.760 So yeah, there you go. Anything can be magnetized. You 1932 01:56:04.760 --> 01:56:07.680 can take a piece of plastic and you know, put 1933 01:56:07.720 --> 01:56:10.199 it up. The issue is, so we have something called 1934 01:56:10.199 --> 01:56:14.439 a Hysteresis sloop, which is an equation that involves like 1935 01:56:14.840 --> 01:56:19.520 how easily something can be magnetized, how long it'll stay magnetized, 1936 01:56:20.319 --> 01:56:25.680 how easy does it give up. Magnetism can be associated 1937 01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:30.439 with time, It could be associated with outside forces, some 1938 01:56:30.560 --> 01:56:33.560 things like just magnetic elements that we have themselves. They 1939 01:56:34.319 --> 01:56:38.640 absolutely fucking love being magnetized so much that they align 1940 01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:43.399 and orientate their own molecules to become magnetized. 1941 01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:46.520 In general, you're teaching me new stuff here, bro, I've 1942 01:56:46.520 --> 01:56:50.600 only heard of haystoricity being talked about with like an instrumentation. 1943 01:56:50.760 --> 01:56:53.800 You have certain metals that will give and bend and 1944 01:56:53.840 --> 01:56:56.479 give and bend, and after a while, because of historicity, 1945 01:56:56.640 --> 01:56:58.720 the metal will crack and the instrument will need to 1946 01:56:58.720 --> 01:57:01.319 be changed out more or less a fancy term for 1947 01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:04.000 the wear and tear, correct, right, right? 1948 01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:08.279 So, yeah, so we have a it's a loop that 1949 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:13.000 I think the beginning part is the ease at which 1950 01:57:13.039 --> 01:57:18.960 it can be magnetized. The second part is how well 1951 01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:23.079 it holds that magnetism, and then the third part is 1952 01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:28.079 how quickly it will release that magnetism. So, yes, you 1953 01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:32.119 can magnetize a for example, a piece of wood. It's 1954 01:57:32.239 --> 01:57:35.479 just once you get rid of that magnetizing force, it'll 1955 01:57:35.479 --> 01:57:38.520 probably get rid of the magnetism so fast that you 1956 01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:40.600 wouldn't be able to use it as a magnet. 1957 01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:46.479 And if I'm not mistaken, conductivity and magnetism aren't necessarily related, 1958 01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:49.239 but they are kind of connected in some way. 1959 01:57:49.319 --> 01:57:53.079 Right. There's there's so many fields across science that are 1960 01:57:53.119 --> 01:57:56.880 so closely related that like yeah, they could easily go 1961 01:57:56.920 --> 01:58:01.000 hand in hand like those two, or like sound waves 1962 01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:06.279 comparative to light waves comparative to electromagnetic waves, Like yeah, 1963 01:58:06.359 --> 01:58:08.239 I mean you're talking about three things that we all 1964 01:58:08.279 --> 01:58:09.760 measure with frequency, right. 1965 01:58:10.279 --> 01:58:12.279 I guess that's true. When we start talking about things 1966 01:58:12.279 --> 01:58:15.159 that are measured or at least observed in wave form, 1967 01:58:15.760 --> 01:58:18.680 it can start to like Jonathan says, it may not 1968 01:58:18.760 --> 01:58:21.399 be the same, but it rhymes if you will. 1969 01:58:21.680 --> 01:58:27.119 Right, And I would argue that they are the same 1970 01:58:27.359 --> 01:58:32.479 for different purposes. So like, for example, we know that 1971 01:58:33.239 --> 01:58:38.479 light travels really well and it bounces around really well, 1972 01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:42.159 but it doesn't penetrate really well. We know that sound 1973 01:58:43.720 --> 01:58:47.720 doesn't travel all that well unless it's through a really 1974 01:58:47.720 --> 01:58:52.680 good medium, but it penetrates really well. We also know 1975 01:58:52.760 --> 01:58:58.399 that electromagnetism is kind of really the best of everything. 1976 01:58:58.479 --> 01:59:01.800 It goes through where they well, it penetrates really well. 1977 01:59:04.119 --> 01:59:06.439 I would say that there's there's different purposes of it, 1978 01:59:06.520 --> 01:59:11.000 like we talked about before with them doing laser therapy, 1979 01:59:11.680 --> 01:59:15.880 and then you know you're using a light source measured 1980 01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:19.520 in frequency not given there are different other like you know, 1981 01:59:19.680 --> 01:59:22.520 things that go into it with pulse rates and focus 1982 01:59:22.640 --> 01:59:27.239 beams and shit like that. But you're you're still using 1983 01:59:27.720 --> 01:59:32.199 light waves to heal. But we have matt rife using 1984 01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:36.840 sound waves to heal. One of them goes through your skin, 1985 01:59:36.920 --> 01:59:40.239 one of them doesn't, right, I mean, we could have 1986 01:59:40.359 --> 01:59:45.079 different different things that do the same for different reasons. 1987 01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:48.800 Heat is another one, right, that's also measured in waves, 1988 01:59:49.439 --> 01:59:52.680 and it transfers very differently depending on the medium that 1989 01:59:52.720 --> 01:59:53.840 you're talking about with it. 1990 01:59:54.079 --> 01:59:57.600 So I'm with you, harm or And then that's another 1991 01:59:57.640 --> 02:00:00.000 fun fact, y'all. I don't know if I've ever heard 1992 02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:01.600 I'll talk about this before, but did you know that 1993 02:00:01.640 --> 02:00:02.600 cold doesn't exist? 1994 02:00:03.439 --> 02:00:06.119 Yeah, it's just the absence of heat. Yeah, it's kind 1995 02:00:06.119 --> 02:00:10.079 of doesn't exist. It's the absence of light, or even 1996 02:00:10.119 --> 02:00:13.399 it doesn't exist, it's the absence of good yea. 1997 02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:17.039 So it's it's literally the so as far as cold, 1998 02:00:17.159 --> 02:00:20.239 as far as darkness, both of them are the absence 1999 02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:26.560 of energy. Wow. Yes, indeed, So back to what we 2000 02:00:26.560 --> 02:00:29.199 were talking about with the core, and so we know 2001 02:00:29.279 --> 02:00:33.119 it's iron and nickel. It creates the electromagnetic field. Uh, 2002 02:00:33.159 --> 02:00:36.840 this is a very interesting thing. So as you go 2003 02:00:37.119 --> 02:00:44.439 deeper into the Earth, the less gravity gets, meaning that 2004 02:00:44.920 --> 02:00:49.560 once you get to the core, gravity is actually very 2005 02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:52.800 minimal because the majority of the mass is above you, 2006 02:00:53.840 --> 02:00:56.960 and as you get to the actual center there is 2007 02:00:57.039 --> 02:00:59.159 absolutely no gravity whatsoever. 2008 02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:03.479 So real quick, you're talking about on land, correct, because 2009 02:01:03.520 --> 02:01:05.279 in the water, the deeper you go down, we're talking 2010 02:01:05.279 --> 02:01:06.720 more of pressure on all sides. 2011 02:01:07.640 --> 02:01:09.000 Two different things, right right. 2012 02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:11.399 I'm just making sure we're on the same conversation. You're 2013 02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:13.840 talking about if you were too, hypothetically try to dig 2014 02:01:13.880 --> 02:01:16.039 a hole of China. Yes, I understand some possible, but 2015 02:01:16.039 --> 02:01:18.039 for the example, bear with me talking about if we 2016 02:01:18.039 --> 02:01:21.359 were to dig a ten mile deep hole. You're saying 2017 02:01:21.359 --> 02:01:23.920 that at the bottom of that ten miles into the 2018 02:01:23.960 --> 02:01:27.199 Earth's crust, there would be a least or excuse me, 2019 02:01:27.279 --> 02:01:29.600 less gravitational pull on you than if you were at 2020 02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:30.159 sea level. 2021 02:01:30.399 --> 02:01:34.239 Yes, wow, yeah, so I actually heard that before. 2022 02:01:35.600 --> 02:01:39.600 They I don't, I don't necessarily think it is one 2023 02:01:39.680 --> 02:01:42.560 hundred percent true, but they say that like where we are, 2024 02:01:42.600 --> 02:01:44.680 like right at the edge of the crust is where 2025 02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:47.680 gravity is the strongest, and the further we go up, 2026 02:01:47.760 --> 02:01:53.239 the weak Here it gets because I understand there they're saying, 2027 02:01:53.279 --> 02:01:57.520 because obviously there is no actual solid mass above us, 2028 02:01:58.800 --> 02:02:03.520 and as you go further down, there is less mass 2029 02:02:03.560 --> 02:02:07.720 causing a gravitational well. So like that well, the further 2030 02:02:07.760 --> 02:02:10.479 you go down, the less the well is actually affecting you. 2031 02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:14.960 Do we actually know how different that is? I assume 2032 02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:20.239 it's like negligible but also measurable, similar to atmosphere pressure 2033 02:02:20.239 --> 02:02:22.680 at sea level versus atmosphere pressure at the peak of 2034 02:02:22.720 --> 02:02:26.199 a mountain. It's noticeable on a like with an instrument 2035 02:02:26.279 --> 02:02:28.640 or something calibrated to register it. But it's not like 2036 02:02:29.119 --> 02:02:31.600 we as human beings, if you were at one point 2037 02:02:31.720 --> 02:02:33.960 versus the other, it wouldn't be something you would really 2038 02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:35.079 feel that. 2039 02:02:35.279 --> 02:02:38.039 I don't know, but I know there are some very 2040 02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:41.880 deep underground installments that we have across the world to 2041 02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:45.199 where I would be very interested to see if there 2042 02:02:45.279 --> 02:02:47.560 are measurable effects of that. 2043 02:02:47.560 --> 02:02:48.560 That is interesting. 2044 02:02:49.439 --> 02:02:52.680 But wow, one of my issues with this is so 2045 02:02:53.680 --> 02:02:58.239 theory relativity. We understand core the Earth, there's no gravity, 2046 02:02:58.439 --> 02:03:03.920 so you no longer have denser materials sinking to the bottom, 2047 02:03:05.279 --> 02:03:10.960 but you still have a centrifical force. So how are 2048 02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:16.439 we actually creating convection currents caused by sinking of more 2049 02:03:16.479 --> 02:03:22.359 denser materials and hotter materials moving around to interact with 2050 02:03:22.479 --> 02:03:26.319 the outer core to create the dynamo effect to create 2051 02:03:26.319 --> 02:03:31.720 the magnetic field. If density doesn't matter. Density doesn't matter 2052 02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:37.359 without gravity, right, Like density is a part of gravity. 2053 02:03:37.600 --> 02:03:40.279 Density and mass are the same, like I, I don't 2054 02:03:40.319 --> 02:03:44.479 care what anybody says, the same thing. So mass doesn't 2055 02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:49.479 matter without like actually having a force there. So how 2056 02:03:49.560 --> 02:03:53.720 is there that convection current whenever there's no gravity in there? 2057 02:03:55.720 --> 02:04:00.119 So? Could it be because they are so hot? It's 2058 02:04:00.159 --> 02:04:03.279 more or less like they're boiling unto themselves and creating 2059 02:04:03.279 --> 02:04:06.920 their own current, creating their own spin, so to speak. 2060 02:04:07.199 --> 02:04:09.600 And I'm not saying that, like I know this is 2061 02:04:09.840 --> 02:04:10.920 purely hypothetical. 2062 02:04:11.680 --> 02:04:13.319 Yeah, and that could be. 2063 02:04:13.600 --> 02:04:16.560 But the issue is is that they've actually So this 2064 02:04:16.720 --> 02:04:21.880 is one of the I think flat earth arguments about rotation, 2065 02:04:22.079 --> 02:04:25.199 because rotation does have a little bit to do with 2066 02:04:25.520 --> 02:04:29.560 the gravitational pull and the density of the materials to 2067 02:04:29.600 --> 02:04:34.319 where it Without the rotation, you can't have the magnetic 2068 02:04:34.359 --> 02:04:41.199 field because that outer core rotating again, because obviously there's 2069 02:04:41.239 --> 02:04:44.640 a liquid underneath it, whether it is incredibly fucking dense 2070 02:04:44.640 --> 02:04:49.600 because of pressure, that interaction between the liquid and the 2071 02:04:49.840 --> 02:04:56.640 solid rotating. That is what's causing the actual dynamo effect 2072 02:04:56.720 --> 02:04:58.960 and the electrical current to be created. 2073 02:05:00.119 --> 02:05:01.439 So think about it like a. 2074 02:05:02.880 --> 02:05:04.880 I don't want to say, like the same thing as 2075 02:05:04.920 --> 02:05:08.000 us having static through the atmosphere, because the atmosphere is 2076 02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:11.439 creating friction comparative to the surface of the Earth. Yes, 2077 02:05:11.439 --> 02:05:14.159 it's the same action, but inside of there, but with 2078 02:05:14.239 --> 02:05:14.920 no gravity. 2079 02:05:16.159 --> 02:05:20.479 Okay, So I guess, like, uh shit, have yo seen 2080 02:05:20.479 --> 02:05:22.359 those as a kid? Do you remember seeing those little 2081 02:05:22.359 --> 02:05:25.600 plastic eyeballs that like you could roll across the ground, 2082 02:05:25.600 --> 02:05:28.680 but the eyeball inside of it was liked in oil, 2083 02:05:28.960 --> 02:05:30.840 and the eyeball didn't move, but you were able to 2084 02:05:30.840 --> 02:05:33.760 slide across the ground. So it's something more akin to this. 2085 02:05:36.800 --> 02:05:39.399 I wouldn't say so, because you're you're still talking about 2086 02:05:39.560 --> 02:05:46.640 two metals. So the the density of the iron compared 2087 02:05:46.680 --> 02:05:51.399 to the nickel. Nickel helps go up, iron helps go down. 2088 02:05:52.680 --> 02:05:57.319 Without gravity, you don't have that sinking or rising, and 2089 02:05:57.359 --> 02:06:02.399 you actually only have the it. So the centrifugal force 2090 02:06:02.520 --> 02:06:07.399 is very small because it being so far in. You know, 2091 02:06:07.520 --> 02:06:10.800 we bulge out at the equator because of that, because 2092 02:06:10.840 --> 02:06:14.000 the further you go out, the more of a force 2093 02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:17.760 you experience from it. But on the inside. It's still there, 2094 02:06:17.800 --> 02:06:20.359 it's just not as strong. But now, when you're talking 2095 02:06:20.399 --> 02:06:24.359 about in a zero gravity environment, it doesn't have to 2096 02:06:24.359 --> 02:06:29.560 be strong to create a you know, force to push 2097 02:06:29.640 --> 02:06:34.880 everything out to the outside. Okay, So I'm actually I 2098 02:06:35.039 --> 02:06:40.520 find an issue with this, and I'm trying, like I said, 2099 02:06:40.520 --> 02:06:46.159 I'm trying to give not necessarily flat Earth, there's a 2100 02:06:46.159 --> 02:06:48.720 a motive, but like maybe kind of push them more 2101 02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:53.159 into a physics based understanding of things to where they 2102 02:06:53.199 --> 02:06:58.079 can actually fight fire with fire, because I want them 2103 02:06:58.119 --> 02:07:00.439 to explain this to me. I haven't seen anything about this. 2104 02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:03.880 So we know that there's no gravity. We know that 2105 02:07:04.039 --> 02:07:08.960 centrifugal force acts without gravity no matter what, so that 2106 02:07:09.039 --> 02:07:14.840 force is easy to overcome the minimal gravity there, so 2107 02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:18.880 that there's no current created. All of the dense materials 2108 02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:21.960 are going to be scattered to the outside wall of 2109 02:07:22.039 --> 02:07:24.199 the inner core, so there's not going to be any 2110 02:07:24.199 --> 02:07:25.319 convection currents. 2111 02:07:26.159 --> 02:07:28.800 I'm gonna be honest. I don't think I've heard any 2112 02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:31.439 flat earthers say that they believe that there's iron and 2113 02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:35.199 nickel inside of the Earth. And again I'm not saying 2114 02:07:35.239 --> 02:07:37.880 that's a throw shade to all the flat earthers, most 2115 02:07:37.880 --> 02:07:41.399 of them, from what we have had conversations about and everything, 2116 02:07:41.439 --> 02:07:44.520 don't believe that there's molten metal anywhere beneath our feet. 2117 02:07:44.760 --> 02:07:47.119 They don't think that it's paper thin or anything like 2118 02:07:47.159 --> 02:07:49.279 that either, Like no, no, no, I don't want to make 2119 02:07:49.319 --> 02:07:51.880 assumptions as to what they believe is underneath, you know. 2120 02:07:51.920 --> 02:07:53.640 And I think that's what issue a lot of physicists 2121 02:07:53.680 --> 02:07:56.439 have is like they look at the disc model instead 2122 02:07:56.479 --> 02:07:59.560 of just understanding that they're talking about the surface being 2123 02:07:59.640 --> 02:08:03.319 flat or even just flat ish. Maybe it doesn't have 2124 02:08:03.359 --> 02:08:06.319 to be completely level, but they can keep looking at 2125 02:08:06.319 --> 02:08:10.199 it as a just a fucking CD disc flying through space. 2126 02:08:12.720 --> 02:08:16.039 It's like the argument of like which one's better Republican 2127 02:08:16.119 --> 02:08:19.159 or Democrat, like you know, like the flat earth versus 2128 02:08:19.239 --> 02:08:22.000 the globe eirth. And it's like so many people are 2129 02:08:22.039 --> 02:08:25.560 so caught up in these two dichotomies that they will 2130 02:08:26.560 --> 02:08:30.199 argue on behalf of whatever their belief is to the 2131 02:08:30.319 --> 02:08:34.479 day they die. And I don't think that it's I mean, 2132 02:08:34.520 --> 02:08:37.359 I if you look at a lot of the math 2133 02:08:38.000 --> 02:08:41.840 that the globe eirth says is the reason why we 2134 02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:44.680 are on a globe, like a lot of it doesn't 2135 02:08:44.720 --> 02:08:46.840 really make sense, you know, like, and that's something that 2136 02:08:46.840 --> 02:08:49.239 the flat earthers are always thrown out. And I think 2137 02:08:49.279 --> 02:08:52.000 personally that's why a lot of flat earthers kind of 2138 02:08:52.000 --> 02:08:56.439 conversations get censored or shadow band and stuff like that, 2139 02:08:56.840 --> 02:09:01.920 because they might not be right, but they are nitpicking 2140 02:09:02.119 --> 02:09:06.039 enough at the globe model that people don't want that 2141 02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:08.560 kind of stuff to even be looked into, you know, 2142 02:09:08.720 --> 02:09:10.840 like for example, like the whole eight inches per mile 2143 02:09:10.920 --> 02:09:14.880 squared thing, Okay, you know, maybe that's just wrong. It 2144 02:09:14.920 --> 02:09:19.760 could still be a globe model and the math behind 2145 02:09:19.800 --> 02:09:22.760 the eight inches per miled squared could just be wrong. 2146 02:09:23.199 --> 02:09:26.239 Like that's also possible. And what about the idea of 2147 02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:29.920 like could it still be a globe but just way 2148 02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:31.279 bigger than we thought it would be? 2149 02:09:31.720 --> 02:09:31.880 Now? 2150 02:09:31.960 --> 02:09:35.399 Is that disproving the globe? Not disproving a globe, but 2151 02:09:35.479 --> 02:09:38.279 it's disproving the model that we have of the globe. 2152 02:09:38.640 --> 02:09:41.000 So I think that there's shit like that as to 2153 02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:43.760 why you know that there are going to people be 2154 02:09:43.800 --> 02:09:46.359 people that disagree on both sides because there are a 2155 02:09:46.359 --> 02:09:48.479 lot of things that do make sense on a flat 2156 02:09:48.520 --> 02:09:50.279 earth and there are a lot of things that make 2157 02:09:50.319 --> 02:09:54.199 sense on a globe Earth. And it's just, you know, 2158 02:09:54.239 --> 02:09:56.000 you got to get rid of a lot of the verbiage. 2159 02:09:56.159 --> 02:09:58.079 I think you know, whenever you start. 2160 02:09:57.920 --> 02:10:01.640 Naming that's pointed in their direction, right right. 2161 02:10:01.479 --> 02:10:05.399 Right, shadow banning flat Earthers. Their content is all over 2162 02:10:05.439 --> 02:10:06.840 the place, certainly. 2163 02:10:06.560 --> 02:10:08.000 Not gonna lie to flatter earth. 2164 02:10:09.479 --> 02:10:11.199 I'm sorry, go ahead, No, I was gonna say, search 2165 02:10:11.199 --> 02:10:14.119 flat earth on Google, and every single one there's not 2166 02:10:14.279 --> 02:10:18.560 a pro flat earth website anywhere, Like you have to 2167 02:10:18.560 --> 02:10:20.560 go on the tenth page to find a pro flat 2168 02:10:20.560 --> 02:10:23.279 earth website. So that's shadow banning. 2169 02:10:23.760 --> 02:10:26.520 Okay, I'm matter of fact, I've never gone to Google 2170 02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:28.239 for that. Usually if you go to YouTube and type 2171 02:10:28.279 --> 02:10:30.680 in flat earth, like it pops right the fuck up. 2172 02:10:30.720 --> 02:10:33.159 But I got you on No, No, and even on 2173 02:10:33.159 --> 02:10:36.560 on YouTube, it'll be the same thing. It's debunking flat Earth. 2174 02:10:36.640 --> 02:10:38.520 It's like, no, I didn't ask for you to debunk 2175 02:10:38.560 --> 02:10:41.279 flat Earth. I'm just looking for flat earth videos. 2176 02:10:41.720 --> 02:10:44.039 Wait right, Okay, so you should I look up flat 2177 02:10:44.119 --> 02:10:46.479 earth or like proven flat Earth or like you know 2178 02:10:46.520 --> 02:10:47.920 what I mean? Because if I was to look up 2179 02:10:49.119 --> 02:10:52.680 uh something else that is by the vast majority of 2180 02:10:52.720 --> 02:10:55.800 people seen to be false on Google, I would find 2181 02:10:55.840 --> 02:10:59.640 debunkings before actual So like, how should I search this up? 2182 02:10:59.680 --> 02:11:02.439 Because so if the flat Earthers are being shadow band like, 2183 02:11:02.600 --> 02:11:03.479 I want to know about it. 2184 02:11:03.479 --> 02:11:07.039 Well, it's the algorithms. So it used to be you'd 2185 02:11:07.039 --> 02:11:08.640 be able to go on Google or you'd be able 2186 02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:10.600 to go on YouTube and you type in flat earth 2187 02:11:10.680 --> 02:11:14.279 and you're gonna see Eric Dubay, You're gonna see all 2188 02:11:14.319 --> 02:11:17.319 of the big names that are within like the flat 2189 02:11:17.359 --> 02:11:20.279 earth kind of community, David Weiss and shit like that. 2190 02:11:20.439 --> 02:11:24.119 Right now, let me just share this. So I just 2191 02:11:24.239 --> 02:11:27.920 typed in. I didn't move anything. All I did was 2192 02:11:27.960 --> 02:11:31.720 type flat earth on YouTube. Look at this smiling friends 2193 02:11:31.720 --> 02:11:35.399 flat Earth. It's an adult swim thing. Flat Earth Guru 2194 02:11:35.560 --> 02:11:38.880 debunked ten things all flat Earth are, say. 2195 02:11:38.800 --> 02:11:42.680 Yessor Dave. He Professor Dave's kind of a dick, Actually 2196 02:11:42.680 --> 02:11:43.880 not kind of he is a. 2197 02:11:43.880 --> 02:11:47.600 Dick, right, But basically it's like a lot of it. 2198 02:11:47.920 --> 02:11:52.199 See Neil deGrasse Tyson demonstrates absurdity of flat Earth, and 2199 02:11:52.239 --> 02:11:54.479 so everything is kind of pointing you in the direction 2200 02:11:54.680 --> 02:11:57.479 of if you research this and you believe this, the 2201 02:11:57.560 --> 02:12:00.079 majority of the masses are going to make fun of 2202 02:11:59.920 --> 02:12:03.000 you and disagree with you. Well, that's not what I researched. 2203 02:12:03.079 --> 02:12:06.840 I researched flat Earth, like I'm not looking for debunking 2204 02:12:06.920 --> 02:12:10.119 things and the same thing, like let's check out Google 2205 02:12:10.399 --> 02:12:13.239 right flat Earth. 2206 02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:16.880 But it's also because, like you said, the algorithm, most 2207 02:12:16.920 --> 02:12:20.520 people when they search flat Earth don't believe. Most people 2208 02:12:20.520 --> 02:12:23.560 on Earth don't believe flat Earth, So the algorithm would 2209 02:12:23.560 --> 02:12:27.640 of course put it in the direction of showing debunking 2210 02:12:27.720 --> 02:12:28.520 versus proving. 2211 02:12:28.680 --> 02:12:30.960 Oh, I'm telling you something right now, dude, Like it 2212 02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:35.239 was like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, maybe twenty six I 2213 02:12:35.319 --> 02:12:37.560 want to say probably twenty sixteen is whenever I really 2214 02:12:37.560 --> 02:12:40.520 started looking deep into flat Earth. It wasn't hard to 2215 02:12:40.520 --> 02:12:43.359 find any information on it. Like it's not. It wasn't 2216 02:12:43.359 --> 02:12:46.840 hard on the main platforms, Google, on YouTube. All I 2217 02:12:46.840 --> 02:12:50.640 did was type in flat earth on Google. Flat earthers? 2218 02:12:50.680 --> 02:12:53.159 Why they believe what they believe? The flat earth theory 2219 02:12:53.239 --> 02:12:57.239 is evidence? Is it evidence based? Why are there flat earthers? 2220 02:12:57.600 --> 02:13:01.199 You know, like the flat earth conspiracy on CNN and 2221 02:13:01.760 --> 02:13:06.439 BBC flat Earth? How did YouTube help spread a conspiracy? 2222 02:13:06.720 --> 02:13:10.000 And it's like everything is debunking it. And that's the point. 2223 02:13:10.119 --> 02:13:14.279 It's not necessarily that, Oh, there's more globbers that are 2224 02:13:14.319 --> 02:13:17.920 out there looking to debunk flat Earth. It's that if 2225 02:13:17.920 --> 02:13:19.720 that's what I wanted, I would to type that in, 2226 02:13:20.279 --> 02:13:22.920 you know. And so that's the algorithm. It's it's the 2227 02:13:22.960 --> 02:13:28.000 algorithm of teaching you almost like a it's a suggestion, 2228 02:13:28.239 --> 02:13:30.239 you know, like I do the hypnosis. I could give 2229 02:13:30.279 --> 02:13:33.760 you a suggestion and you might see something, right, But 2230 02:13:34.319 --> 02:13:39.479 this is saying that the suggestion is that flat earth 2231 02:13:39.680 --> 02:13:42.720 is fake and it's been debunked already on the first setive. 2232 02:13:43.039 --> 02:13:47.079 Instead of you looking at information as to why flat 2233 02:13:47.119 --> 02:13:50.119 Earth could exist, I'm going to show you information as 2234 02:13:50.119 --> 02:13:51.039 to why they're wrong. 2235 02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:57.680 That's right, right, So I that's that's the whole debacle 2236 02:13:57.800 --> 02:14:01.840 behind the shadow banning kind of situation, you know. And 2237 02:14:01.960 --> 02:14:03.840 the same thing goes, it's not just flat earth. You 2238 02:14:03.880 --> 02:14:06.119 type in conspiracy, bro, it's going to be a bunch 2239 02:14:06.119 --> 02:14:09.720 of articles that are anti conspiracy. And that's well for sure, 2240 02:14:09.760 --> 02:14:12.239 And that's the thing, like that's the shadow banding. 2241 02:14:13.479 --> 02:14:16.640 Okay, fair enough, But I mean the point of conspiracy 2242 02:14:16.680 --> 02:14:19.000 is because it's not believed by the main population. 2243 02:14:20.840 --> 02:14:23.479 I mean maybe it used to be, but more and 2244 02:14:23.479 --> 02:14:25.720 more people are coming around to it, are you are 2245 02:14:25.720 --> 02:14:28.520 you suggesting that there's going to be an algorithmic flop 2246 02:14:28.600 --> 02:14:31.560 because more people are starting to pay attention to conspiracies. 2247 02:14:31.640 --> 02:14:32.239 I doubt it. 2248 02:14:33.560 --> 02:14:36.079 No, No, I'm not really saying that. But it's like 2249 02:14:36.079 --> 02:14:39.159 more or less because conspiracies are not Uh it depends 2250 02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:42.000 on the conspiracy too, right, Like I mean, not everyone 2251 02:14:42.119 --> 02:14:45.119 is widely known or widely discussed. Like if you were 2252 02:14:45.119 --> 02:14:49.520 to type in JFK assassination, you'll find more conspiracy based 2253 02:14:49.560 --> 02:14:53.399 things rather than official narrative things at this time, even 2254 02:14:53.439 --> 02:14:56.039 though fifteen years ago that was not the case. 2255 02:14:57.920 --> 02:15:00.279 Uh well, I mean, I mean we can test it. 2256 02:15:01.079 --> 02:15:03.439 I mean, please do. I could be totally wrong in that, 2257 02:15:03.560 --> 02:15:07.159 and like I'm not trying to like be that you know, 2258 02:15:07.760 --> 02:15:12.199 contrarian guy right now, I'm I'm this is genuinely me asking, right. 2259 02:15:12.279 --> 02:15:15.000 So all I did was type in JFK assassination on Google, 2260 02:15:15.319 --> 02:15:19.720 and you'll see how was JFK assassinated? Well, he was 2261 02:15:19.760 --> 02:15:21.720 wading riding in a motor k with his wife Da 2262 02:15:21.840 --> 02:15:24.600 Da Da the whole story. Uh, what were JFK's These 2263 02:15:24.600 --> 02:15:27.319 are like certain things that people may ask. The assassination 2264 02:15:27.399 --> 02:15:29.760 of JFK. It's gonna be the Wikipedia article. You think 2265 02:15:29.760 --> 02:15:34.039 they're getting into conspiracies. Probably not. The White House, Well, 2266 02:15:34.079 --> 02:15:36.279 they're declassifying a lot of it, so that's a little 2267 02:15:36.319 --> 02:15:41.880 bit different. Now, the National Archives, the JFK assassination from 2268 02:15:41.880 --> 02:15:48.319 the FBI, the JFK Library, AXEOS and And that's the 2269 02:15:48.359 --> 02:15:50.920 point that I'm trying to make is is that they 2270 02:15:51.720 --> 02:15:55.279 like to stick to main narrative on these platforms. That's 2271 02:15:55.319 --> 02:15:59.920 the way that they they They they view like plat 2272 02:16:00.079 --> 02:16:05.000 forms like YouTube and Google as tools for not only 2273 02:16:05.079 --> 02:16:13.640 research but also manipulation. Sure, and that's inflection, right, Yeah, 2274 02:16:13.640 --> 02:16:14.279 so you got a. 2275 02:16:16.800 --> 02:16:20.600 Main science does a disagrees with flat earth. But you 2276 02:16:20.640 --> 02:16:25.199 know what one weird thing is that they claim Earth 2277 02:16:25.239 --> 02:16:27.479 may not be flat, but the universes. 2278 02:16:29.359 --> 02:16:30.039 There we go. 2279 02:16:30.039 --> 02:16:30.800 Verse is flat. 2280 02:16:30.800 --> 02:16:33.360 Scientifically, the universe is flat. 2281 02:16:34.360 --> 02:16:35.239 Let's discuss. 2282 02:16:36.520 --> 02:16:38.680 I mean, if it's that bedsheet, right, I mean a 2283 02:16:38.680 --> 02:16:40.000 bed sheet would be flat. 2284 02:16:40.319 --> 02:16:44.239 Right, So if its size wise, like if you were 2285 02:16:44.280 --> 02:16:49.120 able to shrink it down to a measurable size, like 2286 02:16:49.200 --> 02:16:52.920 comparative to something we could actually like observe and measure, 2287 02:16:54.079 --> 02:16:57.280 it's gonna be basically flatter than a piece of paper. 2288 02:17:00.159 --> 02:17:01.120 So there's no depth. 2289 02:17:03.680 --> 02:17:07.719 If you zoom in on a piece of paper. I 2290 02:17:07.799 --> 02:17:10.520 mean you can see the thickness of it, right, Yeah, 2291 02:17:10.639 --> 02:17:12.639 like you're you zoomed in far enough, so basically like 2292 02:17:12.680 --> 02:17:15.920 that idea, like, yes, it does have height, but on 2293 02:17:15.959 --> 02:17:18.440 a large scale it's flat. 2294 02:17:20.120 --> 02:17:23.600 Now when you say this, just from my own clarification here, 2295 02:17:23.680 --> 02:17:26.040 Now we all remember the models we had to make 2296 02:17:26.079 --> 02:17:29.840 in school of our solar system, right, and for the example, 2297 02:17:29.879 --> 02:17:32.399 you always had the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, and 2298 02:17:32.440 --> 02:17:34.079 all of them were like in a straight line away 2299 02:17:34.079 --> 02:17:36.399 from the Sun, and they all rotate in all these things. 2300 02:17:36.959 --> 02:17:39.920 I've actually never looked into this. This is completely out 2301 02:17:39.959 --> 02:17:43.600 of my own ignorance on this. Do they all actually 2302 02:17:43.760 --> 02:17:46.639 rotate on a flat plane like the rings of Saturn 2303 02:17:46.680 --> 02:17:48.639 all rotate on that level, or do they have some 2304 02:17:48.719 --> 02:17:50.719 variation where they're kind of some are spinning this way, 2305 02:17:50.760 --> 02:17:52.680 some are spinning this way kind of thing, or is 2306 02:17:52.680 --> 02:17:54.200 that what you mean why it's all flat. 2307 02:17:54.600 --> 02:17:57.440 It's kind of hard to tell because of the fact 2308 02:17:57.559 --> 02:18:01.200 that the we're basically all following the Sun and its motions, 2309 02:18:01.200 --> 02:18:04.239 so it actually gives more of a corkscrew effect. So 2310 02:18:04.399 --> 02:18:07.959 we were even though we're rotating around the Sun, it's 2311 02:18:08.000 --> 02:18:10.879 not a perfect rotation because we're trailing it a little bit. 2312 02:18:12.200 --> 02:18:15.840 So I don't know if you could, like you would 2313 02:18:15.879 --> 02:18:20.840 basically have to stop the sun and track the then 2314 02:18:21.159 --> 02:18:24.000 rotations of the objects around it, because I think, no 2315 02:18:24.040 --> 02:18:26.760 matter what, they're always going to have like a corkscrewish 2316 02:18:26.840 --> 02:18:28.319 type rotation. 2317 02:18:28.600 --> 02:18:31.399 Like the coin well example from earlier. They're all spinning 2318 02:18:31.479 --> 02:18:33.479 trying to go down, but they're also trying to go 2319 02:18:33.559 --> 02:18:36.879 down and hit a moving target, so they're basically consistently 2320 02:18:36.959 --> 02:18:42.360 staying in rotation, right, got you, huh. 2321 02:18:42.360 --> 02:18:46.040 Yeah, it's right here have I'll go Oh no, I 2322 02:18:46.159 --> 02:18:48.600 just typed in on Doug. Doug go as the universe flat, 2323 02:18:48.600 --> 02:18:50.799 you know, they all have like their AI things, but 2324 02:18:50.879 --> 02:18:53.479 it says yes. Current evidence suggests that the universe is 2325 02:18:53.559 --> 02:18:57.239 nearly flat, meaning that parallel lines will remain parallel, and 2326 02:18:57.319 --> 02:19:02.799 it has a GeoMed tree similar to Euclidean space. I 2327 02:19:02.799 --> 02:19:04.520 don't know Euclidean space is though. 2328 02:19:04.639 --> 02:19:08.079 So basically, like you remember how we were talking about 2329 02:19:09.200 --> 02:19:13.479 space times, instead of two objects moving away from each other, 2330 02:19:13.600 --> 02:19:19.000 the gap in between them is increasing. Basically, the universe 2331 02:19:19.079 --> 02:19:20.520 is not increasing up. 2332 02:19:23.200 --> 02:19:28.799 Oh, just out. It's expanding outward, but not in all directions. 2333 02:19:28.399 --> 02:19:33.440 Right And my opinion, that's very weird considering you think 2334 02:19:33.479 --> 02:19:37.040 about the Big Bang, right, like that is going to 2335 02:19:37.079 --> 02:19:40.319 be I mean, yes, you could have a cone of 2336 02:19:40.399 --> 02:19:43.200 wherever that central point is of either it pointing in 2337 02:19:43.239 --> 02:19:47.079 one direction or it being a three hundred and sixty 2338 02:19:47.159 --> 02:19:51.559 degree like expansion. Uh. To me, it sounds like, no 2339 02:19:51.600 --> 02:19:55.280 matter what, it should be expanding at least in all directions, right, 2340 02:19:55.559 --> 02:20:00.600 But it's not. That is fascinating, so you can use it, actually, yeah, 2341 02:20:00.600 --> 02:20:03.360 and you could actually take that to like, for example, 2342 02:20:03.399 --> 02:20:07.639 I've tried to I try to keep biblical stuff out 2343 02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:11.319 of this because yes I am a Christian. I of 2344 02:20:11.399 --> 02:20:14.360 course I look at what is said in Genesis and 2345 02:20:14.760 --> 02:20:17.799 see how it could be attributed. So you know, in 2346 02:20:17.840 --> 02:20:21.079 the beginning he says, you know, looking at the universe, 2347 02:20:21.120 --> 02:20:24.639 it was chaotic, said let there be light that first time. 2348 02:20:24.760 --> 02:20:30.040 I've envisioned that as being energy, the expansion the Big Bang. 2349 02:20:30.159 --> 02:20:33.000 That statement is the development of the Big Bang. 2350 02:20:33.799 --> 02:20:34.200 Agreed. 2351 02:20:34.440 --> 02:20:38.760 The question is, you know, when he's talking about rolling 2352 02:20:39.440 --> 02:20:42.079 out the I forgot what the Hebrew word is, But 2353 02:20:42.280 --> 02:20:47.200 could that be a explanation of space time itself using 2354 02:20:47.239 --> 02:20:54.840 this you know, lateral expansion and the electromagnetic energy that 2355 02:20:54.879 --> 02:20:58.120 we have that was originally released before the Big Bang 2356 02:20:58.159 --> 02:21:01.600 that we can use to measure well that is domed, 2357 02:21:01.840 --> 02:21:03.520 even though space time itself is not. 2358 02:21:05.520 --> 02:21:07.200 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 2359 02:21:07.239 --> 02:21:12.239 So could that could that basically an electromagnetic pulse that 2360 02:21:12.319 --> 02:21:16.040 went out. Could that possibly be some type of firmament 2361 02:21:16.399 --> 02:21:20.680 you know, idea? I don't know. I do tell you 2362 02:21:21.120 --> 02:21:24.559 one thing is going back to the Earth model with 2363 02:21:25.200 --> 02:21:33.360 the Einstein you know, relativity theory with it. Oddly enough, 2364 02:21:33.399 --> 02:21:36.799 so if you have a flat disc, obviously the gravity 2365 02:21:36.879 --> 02:21:39.079 is going to be really fucking weird there. You're probably 2366 02:21:39.120 --> 02:21:41.600 not going to have enough mass to have an equal 2367 02:21:42.920 --> 02:21:48.360 gravitational pull across the entire plane. The issue with the 2368 02:21:48.719 --> 02:21:50.719 I think one of the ones that you were showing 2369 02:21:50.760 --> 02:21:55.360 where it had the Doughnut model. As far as what 2370 02:21:55.440 --> 02:21:59.559 we know with relativity, like the the gravitational pull is 2371 02:21:59.600 --> 02:22:03.440 going to be in really weird directions there. There's a 2372 02:22:03.520 --> 02:22:09.840 possibility of you know, something maybe being in in a 2373 02:22:10.079 --> 02:22:13.239 lock in the middle because it's got so many different 2374 02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:16.319 you know, gravitational angles pulling from any directions. So if 2375 02:22:16.360 --> 02:22:19.040 something got caught in the middle of it, it may 2376 02:22:19.079 --> 02:22:23.440 never be able to escape. But if you take a 2377 02:22:24.360 --> 02:22:27.440 like biblical Earth right to where you have the Earth, 2378 02:22:27.520 --> 02:22:31.840 you have the firmament above it. You know, gravity actually 2379 02:22:32.760 --> 02:22:37.479 evens out if you put Shiel underneath it. And I 2380 02:22:37.479 --> 02:22:40.799 always I thought that was really strange that if you did, 2381 02:22:41.040 --> 02:22:46.680 the biblical flat Earth actually matches, you know, relativity better 2382 02:22:46.760 --> 02:22:48.879 than the disc flatter earth. 2383 02:22:50.600 --> 02:22:54.120 Right. Well, the idea of of shield or the underworld 2384 02:22:54.319 --> 02:22:57.760 or whatever, that that graphic and I could be wrong, 2385 02:22:57.879 --> 02:23:00.120 but that graphic would only apply to the Earth. It 2386 02:23:00.120 --> 02:23:01.959 wouldn't apply to the universe, right. 2387 02:23:03.639 --> 02:23:08.000 I would assume so because earthwise it makes sense, but 2388 02:23:08.479 --> 02:23:14.799 universal wise no, because if the universe is not expanding up, 2389 02:23:14.879 --> 02:23:17.479 then obviously it would not be expanding down and it 2390 02:23:17.479 --> 02:23:19.479 would just be expanding in a lateral motion. 2391 02:23:21.159 --> 02:23:23.559 So it makes me think of like this, like whenever 2392 02:23:23.559 --> 02:23:26.159 you shoot a gun. Let's say you're shooting a gun 2393 02:23:26.520 --> 02:23:31.680 at some kind of rubber wall. Let's just throw it 2394 02:23:31.680 --> 02:23:34.319 out there, like a pretty thin rubber wall, and you 2395 02:23:34.360 --> 02:23:38.159 shoot a gun and that bullet goes through. You know, 2396 02:23:38.200 --> 02:23:41.639 it's going through space time or whatever it is, right like, 2397 02:23:41.680 --> 02:23:45.079 it's it is traveling at a speed and eventually it 2398 02:23:45.120 --> 02:23:48.680 will hit that rubber wall. Well, that rubber wall is 2399 02:23:48.719 --> 02:23:51.479 only going to expand in one direction, it's not going 2400 02:23:51.559 --> 02:23:54.239 to go in all directions. So if the Big Bang 2401 02:23:54.920 --> 02:23:59.680 was something that was constantly outwardly penetrating, it wouldn't necessarily 2402 02:23:59.680 --> 02:24:01.159 have to go up and down. 2403 02:24:01.120 --> 02:24:05.040 Right like it would because it does not have any 2404 02:24:06.000 --> 02:24:09.360 law of inertia. It doesn't have any outside effects on it. 2405 02:24:09.440 --> 02:24:12.479 So with you shooting into the rubber, you know you 2406 02:24:12.559 --> 02:24:16.840 have air density involved with it, you have the actual 2407 02:24:17.159 --> 02:24:20.000 thickness of that. When we're talking about space time, as 2408 02:24:20.000 --> 02:24:23.719 far as we have right now, we can't physically measure it. 2409 02:24:23.760 --> 02:24:28.079 So like you talk about either he originally when it 2410 02:24:28.239 --> 02:24:33.000 was you know, theorized it was something that had no mass, 2411 02:24:33.319 --> 02:24:39.600 it was before helium, so kind of the same idea 2412 02:24:39.799 --> 02:24:46.559 to where you there's a lot more physical things involved 2413 02:24:46.639 --> 02:24:51.440 with that comparative to the law of inertia being able 2414 02:24:51.520 --> 02:24:55.879 to just go wild, because at that time nothing was 2415 02:24:55.959 --> 02:25:04.079 actually collected enough to create very high gravitational forces or 2416 02:25:04.159 --> 02:25:07.520 polls or whatever you want to consider it. So if 2417 02:25:07.719 --> 02:25:12.079 anything was shooting up, it would have been going up. 2418 02:25:12.719 --> 02:25:18.600 So that would mean that whatever the Big Bang was, 2419 02:25:20.719 --> 02:25:24.479 there was something focusing it in a certain direction, and 2420 02:25:24.600 --> 02:25:26.760 a you know, lateral direction. 2421 02:25:27.840 --> 02:25:29.319 Let me ask you this, and this could be a 2422 02:25:29.440 --> 02:25:32.079 really stupid question. I'm not very well versed in the 2423 02:25:32.079 --> 02:25:37.120 whole Big Bang ideology, but so the idea is is 2424 02:25:37.159 --> 02:25:41.680 that basically everything that was ever created compressed into a 2425 02:25:41.719 --> 02:25:45.280 tiny little thing. Let's just say, like a seed, right, 2426 02:25:45.639 --> 02:25:47.840 and then that seed exploded. 2427 02:25:48.360 --> 02:25:48.559 Right. 2428 02:25:49.239 --> 02:25:52.079 Is that seed that is exploding or that little atom 2429 02:25:52.200 --> 02:25:56.360 or whatever the fuck it is that seed that was exploding? 2430 02:25:56.479 --> 02:26:00.639 Where was that? Like, was it already in space? And 2431 02:26:00.680 --> 02:26:02.799 if that's the case, then space was already here before 2432 02:26:02.799 --> 02:26:05.159 the Big Bang, like it had to be somewhere. 2433 02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:10.000 So you you could have a biblical standpoint of it 2434 02:26:10.120 --> 02:26:14.360 or a scientifical standpoint of it. You could argue that 2435 02:26:14.479 --> 02:26:17.760 if like space, time itself did have some kind of 2436 02:26:17.840 --> 02:26:24.639 measurable amount. See, atoms are like legos. Everything can be 2437 02:26:24.879 --> 02:26:28.479 added on to itself to create something else, to create 2438 02:26:28.520 --> 02:26:32.959 something else. That's how we you know, create new elements. 2439 02:26:33.120 --> 02:26:37.799 We end up combining more electrons, more protons, whatever, to 2440 02:26:38.680 --> 02:26:42.239 you know, create non natural occurring elements like we're doing 2441 02:26:42.280 --> 02:26:45.280 with the hydron collider and shit like that. So it 2442 02:26:45.360 --> 02:26:49.879 literally is a whole lego system. The issue is you 2443 02:26:50.040 --> 02:26:55.600 have to sometimes find you know, if this lego really 2444 02:26:55.680 --> 02:26:58.559 really doesn't want this other part taken off of it. 2445 02:26:59.239 --> 02:27:02.840 You have to find something that will ease the ability 2446 02:27:02.840 --> 02:27:05.200 for them to separate, so now you can put this 2447 02:27:05.399 --> 02:27:08.760 other lego on it. And that's honestly the secret to 2448 02:27:09.280 --> 02:27:12.239 like Philosopher's Stone of like making gold or whatever. It's 2449 02:27:12.280 --> 02:27:15.760 just nobody's found what is able to be combined into 2450 02:27:15.840 --> 02:27:19.360 what to make gold. I mean, I would definitely argue 2451 02:27:19.399 --> 02:27:23.520 that if we can figure out what's in a fucking 2452 02:27:23.600 --> 02:27:28.600 planet a light year away, they definitely fucking know how 2453 02:27:28.600 --> 02:27:30.920 to make gold out of other ailments. They know what 2454 02:27:31.000 --> 02:27:35.120 kind of compounds you can do to create it. But 2455 02:27:35.200 --> 02:27:39.360 if you have a very compressed source of like say 2456 02:27:39.399 --> 02:27:43.920 space time, that friction actually caused an explosion. That heat 2457 02:27:44.040 --> 02:27:49.479 started allowing things to combine together to then create other 2458 02:27:49.639 --> 02:27:52.239 elements and to continue the process because originally it was 2459 02:27:52.280 --> 02:27:55.559 just really helium, and then helium started combining into other things, 2460 02:27:55.600 --> 02:27:58.760 and then things started combining in other things, and eventually 2461 02:27:58.760 --> 02:28:01.040 you get this whole big ass, you know, lego block 2462 02:28:01.120 --> 02:28:04.159 of whatever a fucking planet is made out of. So 2463 02:28:04.360 --> 02:28:08.040 it could have just been that eventually all of that 2464 02:28:08.639 --> 02:28:12.000 space time or ether or whatever you want to consider heat, 2465 02:28:12.040 --> 02:28:16.319 it up so much that finally allowed that reaction to start. 2466 02:28:17.559 --> 02:28:20.479 Or biblically, you could look at it as like, you know, 2467 02:28:20.760 --> 02:28:24.920 God said, let there be energy, and however he got 2468 02:28:24.959 --> 02:28:27.360 it here, whether he opened it up from some other 2469 02:28:27.440 --> 02:28:30.120 place or whether he created it himself, I don't know. 2470 02:28:30.479 --> 02:28:33.520 I mean, I'm one to believe that, you know, we 2471 02:28:33.520 --> 02:28:36.959 we have the laws of physics. Do I believe that 2472 02:28:37.040 --> 02:28:41.200 God can intervene outside of those, Yes, because I believe 2473 02:28:41.239 --> 02:28:44.200 that he created them. But I think that there will 2474 02:28:44.239 --> 02:28:47.399 be causes and effects if he doesn't, so he would 2475 02:28:47.440 --> 02:28:51.479 have to work through the laws of physics. But you're 2476 02:28:51.479 --> 02:28:54.159 talking about somebody that you know, it's it's like somebody 2477 02:28:54.159 --> 02:28:57.040 that does coding that has made a program. They know 2478 02:28:57.200 --> 02:29:00.040 ways around the fucking program that other people don't. So 2479 02:29:00.120 --> 02:29:04.000 they might know, you know, better ways to do the physics. 2480 02:29:03.840 --> 02:29:05.959 Access to back doors and whatnot. 2481 02:29:05.879 --> 02:29:09.680 Right, and it could still So like one thing, I 2482 02:29:09.719 --> 02:29:10.440 love using. 2483 02:29:10.280 --> 02:29:15.239 GTA for like a lot of exhalation. Yeah, So, like 2484 02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:22.040 imagine you put like a cheat end to get like 2485 02:29:22.159 --> 02:29:24.719 one of the fucking nice ass cars, right, you know 2486 02:29:24.760 --> 02:29:27.159 that slight amount of lag that it puts in before 2487 02:29:27.200 --> 02:29:31.760 the car shows up. Yeah, that would literally you could 2488 02:29:31.760 --> 02:29:35.120 imagine that as God going outside of the laws of physics, 2489 02:29:35.120 --> 02:29:37.520 there is something that's going to happen because there is 2490 02:29:37.600 --> 02:29:40.920 now a different amount of material creating some kind of 2491 02:29:40.959 --> 02:29:46.000 different effect that could easily create a domino effect comparative 2492 02:29:46.000 --> 02:29:48.280 to where if he just took it from somewhere else 2493 02:29:48.360 --> 02:29:50.239 and brought it here and combined it. 2494 02:29:51.760 --> 02:29:54.440 A little bit of L one, L two, R one, 2495 02:29:54.600 --> 02:29:56.639 R two left down right up, left down right up. 2496 02:29:56.680 --> 02:29:58.920 Action absolutely. 2497 02:30:00.079 --> 02:30:04.159 Okay, And I could see that. The scientific or at 2498 02:30:04.239 --> 02:30:06.680 least some of the scientific explanations that I've heard as 2499 02:30:06.680 --> 02:30:09.120 far as the Big Bang goes is that, like you said, 2500 02:30:09.159 --> 02:30:12.440 it all was helium at one point. I've heard others 2501 02:30:12.440 --> 02:30:16.360 say that it was just random elements and one day 2502 02:30:16.479 --> 02:30:21.120 two of them accidentally touched which caused essentially a intergalactic 2503 02:30:21.159 --> 02:30:25.559 atomic explosion, and everything spun off of that. My thing 2504 02:30:25.600 --> 02:30:28.479 with that is that goes against the laws of physics, right, 2505 02:30:28.600 --> 02:30:31.920 that you can't have something come from nothing, right. Energy 2506 02:30:31.920 --> 02:30:35.000 cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred. So if you 2507 02:30:35.040 --> 02:30:37.319 go back all the way to and we say the 2508 02:30:37.399 --> 02:30:42.040 Big Bang colloquially, who's to say it was an actual explosion? Right? 2509 02:30:42.079 --> 02:30:43.840 Who's to say it was any of these things. But 2510 02:30:44.000 --> 02:30:47.440 just for the sense of saying the starting point the 2511 02:30:48.159 --> 02:30:51.319 spawn point of everything, if you will, I'm with you. 2512 02:30:51.399 --> 02:30:53.959 I think that even if taking religion out of it 2513 02:30:54.000 --> 02:30:57.559 for two seconds, it had to have started from a source. 2514 02:30:58.000 --> 02:31:01.000 A thing had to have put that spark into existence. 2515 02:31:01.399 --> 02:31:04.559 So yeah, I could see that one hundred percent. Now 2516 02:31:04.920 --> 02:31:06.639 this is the first time I'm hearing that the Big 2517 02:31:06.639 --> 02:31:09.559 Bang only goes in a lateral direction, or that the 2518 02:31:09.719 --> 02:31:12.760 universal expansion. And that's the reason why I believe more 2519 02:31:12.760 --> 02:31:17.040 than the Big Bang than any other example that's been proposed, 2520 02:31:17.319 --> 02:31:21.120 strictly because we can track it, and I do not 2521 02:31:21.280 --> 02:31:23.920 know if they have tracted to its origin point. Maybe 2522 02:31:23.959 --> 02:31:26.520 somebody out there has theorized the spot where it all happened, 2523 02:31:26.520 --> 02:31:28.959 where the Big Bang took place. But the only reason 2524 02:31:29.000 --> 02:31:30.760 why I say that is because you can look up 2525 02:31:30.840 --> 02:31:32.879 at the stars over a course of time and see 2526 02:31:32.920 --> 02:31:36.559 that the universe is expanding, right, That is something that 2527 02:31:36.600 --> 02:31:39.920 we can actually observe, So to say it's expanding from 2528 02:31:40.040 --> 02:31:44.000 an origin point makes sense, which is why I would 2529 02:31:44.200 --> 02:31:46.120 say that the Big Bang makes more sense than any 2530 02:31:46.120 --> 02:31:49.959 other theory proposed thus far. But I had no idea 2531 02:31:50.079 --> 02:31:53.040 that it was all on a flat plane. That is fascinating. 2532 02:31:53.360 --> 02:31:55.520 I just looked it up to it. So before the 2533 02:31:55.520 --> 02:31:56.799 Big Bang, it was called inflation. 2534 02:31:57.280 --> 02:32:01.159 Imagine that inflation, meaning again it came from a point 2535 02:32:01.200 --> 02:32:04.079 and has expanded outwards. See that even the ancients knew. 2536 02:32:04.200 --> 02:32:08.479 You can't have something go into a space that didn't 2537 02:32:08.479 --> 02:32:09.319 have space before. 2538 02:32:10.159 --> 02:32:14.319 Fair right, Yeah, that was my point, you know, like, 2539 02:32:14.479 --> 02:32:16.639 all right, let's say that it was compressed into one 2540 02:32:16.719 --> 02:32:18.799 tiny little thing, and then you know the amount of 2541 02:32:18.840 --> 02:32:21.879 pressure that was putting onto it. What the question is, like, 2542 02:32:22.680 --> 02:32:26.440 where's that pressure coming from? If everything within our known 2543 02:32:26.559 --> 02:32:29.680 universe is already compressed into this tiny little space to 2544 02:32:29.719 --> 02:32:32.760 begin with, you know, like, how could there be pressure 2545 02:32:33.200 --> 02:32:34.440 outside of space? 2546 02:32:35.040 --> 02:32:37.239 Where I heard it say that there was pressure though, 2547 02:32:37.360 --> 02:32:39.920 or that things were condensed and then the Big Bang happened, 2548 02:32:40.079 --> 02:32:41.520 I've I've never actually heard that. 2549 02:32:41.639 --> 02:32:47.479 So if if everything originated from a singular point like 2550 02:32:47.559 --> 02:32:51.680 the Big Bank suggests, even though you have like a 2551 02:32:51.719 --> 02:32:54.799 bunch of material like helium, obviously helium is very it 2552 02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:57.719 doesn't have a lot of uh mass to it to 2553 02:32:57.760 --> 02:33:02.280 begin with. But if you have a metric fuck ton 2554 02:33:02.319 --> 02:33:05.120 of it in one singular area such as like like 2555 02:33:05.200 --> 02:33:10.000 think of like black holes. For example, black holes are 2556 02:33:10.319 --> 02:33:16.639 a lot of material basically shrinking in to a very 2557 02:33:16.680 --> 02:33:22.319 small spot, creating such a gravitational force that it you know, 2558 02:33:22.399 --> 02:33:24.600 at that point in time, you're sucking in light like 2559 02:33:24.760 --> 02:33:27.799 light can't even escape it. You're looking at a situation 2560 02:33:27.959 --> 02:33:31.280 like that, but maybe not a black hole type situation 2561 02:33:31.479 --> 02:33:36.239 because possibly space time didn't expand yet, so you're talking 2562 02:33:36.280 --> 02:33:40.280 about just a honestly, maybe a bubble of a bunch 2563 02:33:40.280 --> 02:33:42.479 of helium or a bunch of space time that is 2564 02:33:43.040 --> 02:33:46.879 heating up until the point that it finally has that reaction. 2565 02:33:48.200 --> 02:33:50.120 Okay, because it's it again. 2566 02:33:50.239 --> 02:33:55.440 You have that large amount of mass just reacting with 2567 02:33:55.479 --> 02:33:58.200 each other, bouncing off of each other, compressing even more 2568 02:33:58.399 --> 02:34:01.000 but trying to expand because of the heat created. 2569 02:34:01.440 --> 02:34:03.120 Eventually you just get a boom. 2570 02:34:04.399 --> 02:34:06.239 And that you use the term for this earlier when 2571 02:34:06.239 --> 02:34:09.399 the black hole basically like pukes out of plasma cannon. 2572 02:34:09.479 --> 02:34:10.079 What's that called? 2573 02:34:10.200 --> 02:34:10.680 Quasar? 2574 02:34:11.280 --> 02:34:11.840 Quasar? 2575 02:34:12.200 --> 02:34:14.399 Yeah, they're fuck they're fucking terrifying. 2576 02:34:15.520 --> 02:34:17.879 I mean, black holes in and of themselves are terrifying. 2577 02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:20.399 Like so the fact that light can't even escape the 2578 02:34:20.399 --> 02:34:23.840 gravitational pull of it, that in and of itself is 2579 02:34:23.920 --> 02:34:26.639 terrifying to me. Then when it gets so full that 2580 02:34:26.680 --> 02:34:30.399 it basically jizzes out a plasma cannon that we couldn't 2581 02:34:30.440 --> 02:34:32.559 even see coming if our lives depending on it, until 2582 02:34:32.559 --> 02:34:35.680 we're already fried by it. Yeah, that's also pretty fucking terrifying. 2583 02:34:36.000 --> 02:34:39.079 Yeah, and especially when you think about, like at the 2584 02:34:39.079 --> 02:34:41.440 center of the Milky Week galaxy, there's a super massive 2585 02:34:41.479 --> 02:34:44.959 black hole that eventually is going to get to a 2586 02:34:45.000 --> 02:34:47.440 point to where it's going to turn into a quasar, 2587 02:34:47.840 --> 02:34:50.600 and that blast of energy is so much that like, yes, 2588 02:34:50.680 --> 02:34:53.600 we have black holes, they are moving through our space, 2589 02:34:53.639 --> 02:34:58.239 they have a velocity that blast from the quasar can 2590 02:34:58.319 --> 02:35:02.639 actually affect their trajectory. That's how much energy is being 2591 02:35:02.719 --> 02:35:03.520 shot out of them. 2592 02:35:04.959 --> 02:35:06.639 Jesus Christ, you're talking. 2593 02:35:06.760 --> 02:35:10.840 And that's what like getting into the whole wormhole theory. 2594 02:35:10.879 --> 02:35:12.680 That's why I don't really know if I believe in 2595 02:35:12.719 --> 02:35:15.719 it that much, because we do get expulsions of energy, 2596 02:35:15.840 --> 02:35:21.159 so it obviously the matter is being held in there 2597 02:35:21.200 --> 02:35:23.520 and not going to some other place. 2598 02:35:24.600 --> 02:35:27.600 Is it possible that some of it's going somewhere else 2599 02:35:27.639 --> 02:35:29.920 and some of it's maintaining and staying there. 2600 02:35:30.440 --> 02:35:32.719 Because of the gravitational force of the black hole. 2601 02:35:32.799 --> 02:35:38.520 I think whatever goes in there, I mean, could you 2602 02:35:38.559 --> 02:35:41.120 would have to say that the velocity of it being 2603 02:35:41.159 --> 02:35:44.719 pulled in would be able to escape the exit velocity 2604 02:35:44.799 --> 02:35:47.920 through the other side, which it would. I don't think 2605 02:35:47.920 --> 02:35:48.760 it would be able to do that. 2606 02:35:49.440 --> 02:35:50.280 I see what you mean. 2607 02:35:50.479 --> 02:35:53.399 Okay, dude, you know what's crazy. I just looked this up. 2608 02:35:54.680 --> 02:35:57.280 Energy cannot exist outside of time. 2609 02:35:58.479 --> 02:35:58.879 Yeah. 2610 02:35:59.000 --> 02:36:01.959 Yeah, that is falking wild, right. 2611 02:36:02.360 --> 02:36:06.719 And everything is losing mass and energy at a steady rate. 2612 02:36:07.799 --> 02:36:10.280 As we as humans are also running out of time 2613 02:36:10.479 --> 02:36:11.239 by the second. 2614 02:36:11.680 --> 02:36:17.360 Yeah, well that's what equals empty squared energy masks are 2615 02:36:17.399 --> 02:36:21.479 the same. You can look at space time as being 2616 02:36:21.520 --> 02:36:25.520 a ether. It is a materialistic thing, which means it 2617 02:36:25.559 --> 02:36:29.040 has mass, it has energy. It will be done eventually. 2618 02:36:30.879 --> 02:36:34.639 Yes, indeed, this is probably the most third eye opening 2619 02:36:34.639 --> 02:36:36.159 conversation we've had in Quie. 2620 02:36:36.319 --> 02:36:41.479 Right, I'm about to We're about to go deep in 2621 02:36:41.520 --> 02:36:46.319 a second because I have a I have an idea 2622 02:36:46.399 --> 02:36:49.000 if y'all want to do it to where we fix 2623 02:36:49.120 --> 02:36:50.440 the flat Earth model. 2624 02:36:51.639 --> 02:36:52.920 Let's go, dude. 2625 02:36:53.360 --> 02:36:56.440 So from what I what I what I've seen so far, 2626 02:36:56.520 --> 02:36:59.319 I mean, we can do the Coriolis effect from you know, 2627 02:36:59.399 --> 02:37:03.639 pressure different and says, you can argue how maybe the 2628 02:37:03.680 --> 02:37:09.239 magnetic field might affect projectile trajectory. At that point in time, 2629 02:37:10.680 --> 02:37:13.319 we know if we put some kind of mass underneath 2630 02:37:13.360 --> 02:37:15.479 the flat earth and don't have a fucking CD rom 2631 02:37:15.479 --> 02:37:21.600 flying through the universe, then we're able to have gravity. 2632 02:37:21.680 --> 02:37:25.600 The only thing that basically like what part just got, 2633 02:37:25.719 --> 02:37:30.520 proved to be correct over the past couple of weeks. 2634 02:37:30.639 --> 02:37:32.600 All right, I guess it's probably been over a month now, right, 2635 02:37:33.520 --> 02:37:38.840 twenty four hour sun right right right, So let me 2636 02:37:39.920 --> 02:37:43.840 introduce you to a very interesting thing that I not 2637 02:37:43.879 --> 02:37:48.120 only I discovered, but I started like digging into more. So, 2638 02:37:48.680 --> 02:37:54.200 this kind of goes along with spiritual, religious, and scientific. 2639 02:37:56.360 --> 02:38:02.000 The moon itself. We know that it reflex light, right obviously, 2640 02:38:02.040 --> 02:38:04.559 that's why we have a little bit of light at nighttime. 2641 02:38:04.680 --> 02:38:10.559 That's why it glows like it does. So. Scientifically, you 2642 02:38:10.559 --> 02:38:16.239 could say that it reflects light. Spiritually, you could say 2643 02:38:16.280 --> 02:38:19.840 that it could be some kind of crystalline structure that 2644 02:38:22.159 --> 02:38:27.120 absorbs some light, reflects some light. And then if you 2645 02:38:27.159 --> 02:38:29.959 look at it biblically, we have the greater light to 2646 02:38:30.000 --> 02:38:33.280 rule the day, the smaller light to rule the night. 2647 02:38:33.879 --> 02:38:36.399 So we have two different lights at that point in time, 2648 02:38:36.440 --> 02:38:38.159 if you look at the words for what they are. 2649 02:38:39.440 --> 02:38:41.319 Have you ever heard of destructive interference? 2650 02:38:42.399 --> 02:38:44.840 I have a theory of what you might mean, but 2651 02:38:44.920 --> 02:38:50.159 I'm probably off base, Jonathan. Your thoughts, no idea. So 2652 02:38:50.280 --> 02:38:52.840 I think it's more like if you drop a pebble 2653 02:38:52.959 --> 02:38:55.079 in a pond and you see the ripple effect off 2654 02:38:55.079 --> 02:38:57.360 of that. That's one way, but if you drop two 2655 02:38:57.399 --> 02:39:00.399 of them back to back, the waves will actually inflict 2656 02:39:00.479 --> 02:39:03.079 and break each other apart. Am I on track here? 2657 02:39:03.159 --> 02:39:04.079 Completely off base? 2658 02:39:04.280 --> 02:39:06.239 Yeah, so that works with light as well. 2659 02:39:06.920 --> 02:39:09.280 Okay, so if you have a as a LightWave, you 2660 02:39:09.319 --> 02:39:13.040 know you have a high and a low. If you 2661 02:39:13.159 --> 02:39:17.440 have another light wave interact with that one from any angle. 2662 02:39:17.440 --> 02:39:19.879 It doesn't have to be like straight onto each other. 2663 02:39:20.959 --> 02:39:24.639 But if you have a high react with the low 2664 02:39:25.000 --> 02:39:29.719 of a either reflected light source or another light source, 2665 02:39:30.959 --> 02:39:35.719 it will actually cancel that light out and have darkness. 2666 02:39:37.799 --> 02:39:39.680 I've never heard this before. 2667 02:39:39.760 --> 02:39:46.559 But the Moon does reflect some just a little bit 2668 02:39:46.680 --> 02:39:52.000 of infrared light right which crystals will actually do the 2669 02:39:52.040 --> 02:39:55.159 same as well. And obviously if the Moon is a 2670 02:39:55.200 --> 02:39:58.760 smaller light source it will reflec it'll create infra red 2671 02:39:58.840 --> 02:40:03.879 light as well. Infrared light does a really good job 2672 02:40:04.239 --> 02:40:09.680 of cooling things down, such as the observation we can 2673 02:40:09.760 --> 02:40:13.639 make of things in moonlight being cooler than things that 2674 02:40:13.680 --> 02:40:17.280 are not correct causes radiative cooling. 2675 02:40:18.040 --> 02:40:20.840 Yeah, if it's a full moon light, it's actually warmer 2676 02:40:20.920 --> 02:40:23.680 in the shade than it is in the direct moonlight. 2677 02:40:23.719 --> 02:40:27.200 Because the Moon's understood to be a cold source radiator. 2678 02:40:27.040 --> 02:40:31.079 So that scientifically that doesn't exist. A cold source radiator 2679 02:40:31.520 --> 02:40:37.799 isn't a thing, right, So the infrared light itself helps 2680 02:40:39.120 --> 02:40:43.079 create a radiating effect to where it helps things cool 2681 02:40:43.159 --> 02:40:49.200 down because it is removing the infrared energy light whatever, 2682 02:40:49.239 --> 02:40:51.600 that the object still has the heat that it has, 2683 02:40:53.079 --> 02:40:57.000 which could also be an example as to why when 2684 02:40:57.520 --> 02:41:00.159 whoever it was, did the shot of the moon and 2685 02:41:00.200 --> 02:41:06.239 saw like waves, you're seeing infrared light. You know, when 2686 02:41:06.239 --> 02:41:08.760 you're looking down the road and you see like the 2687 02:41:08.799 --> 02:41:12.040 waves coming off of the road, that's infrared. 2688 02:41:12.399 --> 02:41:14.040 Right, the heat waves off the road, like in the 2689 02:41:14.040 --> 02:41:16.280 middle of the day. You're saying that the wave that 2690 02:41:16.319 --> 02:41:19.040 goes across the moon that your boy crow triples seven 2691 02:41:19.079 --> 02:41:21.399 that he observed with a camera that was more or 2692 02:41:21.479 --> 02:41:24.959 less infrared heat waves that he observed. 2693 02:41:24.879 --> 02:41:31.479 Yes, which causes cooling. Doesn't reflect as well, so as 2694 02:41:31.520 --> 02:41:35.879 there's not going to be as much destructive interference, whether 2695 02:41:35.920 --> 02:41:39.239 it's reflecting, whether it's a crystal absorbing it, or whether 2696 02:41:39.399 --> 02:41:44.079 it is a light source emitting it itself. So now 2697 02:41:44.280 --> 02:41:48.639 that we know that, no, the Sun or the Moon 2698 02:41:48.719 --> 02:41:55.200 does not block out physically sunlight, but it cancels it out. 2699 02:41:55.479 --> 02:41:59.440 Now we can have twenty four hours in Antarctica twenty 2700 02:41:59.440 --> 02:42:00.440 four hours of sunlight. 2701 02:42:01.559 --> 02:42:05.440 Wait, you're talking about the moon reflecting or at least 2702 02:42:05.440 --> 02:42:07.120 breaking up the Sun's heat waves. 2703 02:42:07.920 --> 02:42:13.440 Yeah, saying that like visible light, it will if destructive 2704 02:42:13.479 --> 02:42:18.399 interference will actually create a dark circle around the Moon, 2705 02:42:19.040 --> 02:42:22.520 like wherever it is underneath it, it negates the light. 2706 02:42:23.479 --> 02:42:26.239 How does that equate to the Sun's position in the sky, 2707 02:42:26.479 --> 02:42:28.440 and how for at least a section of time, we 2708 02:42:28.479 --> 02:42:30.200 have a twenty four hour sun in an article, that's 2709 02:42:30.200 --> 02:42:31.399 not a year round phenomenon. 2710 02:42:31.440 --> 02:42:33.559 That's right, all right, because we have yeah, we have 2711 02:42:33.639 --> 02:42:39.120 a you'll have a twenty four hour darkness in the 2712 02:42:39.200 --> 02:42:41.040 north while you have a twenty four hour light in 2713 02:42:41.079 --> 02:42:43.600 the south. Same vice versa. They both have a twenty 2714 02:42:43.639 --> 02:42:48.040 four hour light. So the issue was that obviously, in 2715 02:42:48.159 --> 02:42:51.760 order to create a shade on the Earth, the moon 2716 02:42:51.799 --> 02:42:54.959 has to be in some kind of position to physically 2717 02:42:55.000 --> 02:42:58.000 block the sunlight from reaching that part of the Earth. 2718 02:42:58.639 --> 02:43:01.000 It no longer has to do that now if it 2719 02:43:01.120 --> 02:43:05.680 is absorbing or negating the sunlight from a distance. 2720 02:43:06.959 --> 02:43:08.360 Where are you at with this, Jonathan? 2721 02:43:10.079 --> 02:43:11.040 A little confused? 2722 02:43:12.520 --> 02:43:15.239 Same same, Like, I'm making sure that you know how 2723 02:43:15.319 --> 02:43:17.840 I'm like a way logical and analytical person. I'm like, okay, 2724 02:43:17.840 --> 02:43:20.479 maybe i'm like over autisming this right now, and that's 2725 02:43:20.520 --> 02:43:25.440 why it's just not computing. I'm okay, Yeah. 2726 02:43:24.479 --> 02:43:29.200 So imagine, imagine like you just have the sun right, 2727 02:43:29.319 --> 02:43:32.479 no moon whatsoever. Okay, everything is going to get a 2728 02:43:32.520 --> 02:43:36.559 twenty four hour light right because the sun, the Sun 2729 02:43:36.680 --> 02:43:39.280 is sending out light. Light is going to continue to 2730 02:43:39.360 --> 02:43:41.879 keep traveling, so everything will get light. 2731 02:43:42.719 --> 02:43:44.200 I'm trying to sit and you're talking about on a 2732 02:43:44.239 --> 02:43:46.639 flat earth model. I'm trying to make sure that we're 2733 02:43:46.680 --> 02:43:47.520 still speaking in that. 2734 02:43:47.840 --> 02:43:50.959 Yeah, don't get wrong, anybody listening, like I'm not. I'm 2735 02:43:51.000 --> 02:43:54.840 not again, I'm not for the flat Earth, and I'm 2736 02:43:54.879 --> 02:43:57.440 also not for the round Earth. I think they're lying 2737 02:43:57.479 --> 02:44:00.920 about a lot of stuff as well. I'm just trying 2738 02:44:00.959 --> 02:44:07.920 to throw out scientific based hypotheticals, because we know destructive 2739 02:44:07.920 --> 02:44:12.799 interference is a thing. It happens with light waves. You 2740 02:44:12.840 --> 02:44:15.040 can you can simulate it with water like what we 2741 02:44:15.079 --> 02:44:16.200 were talking about. 2742 02:44:17.440 --> 02:44:17.879 We can. 2743 02:44:18.120 --> 02:44:23.520 There there are only certain devices that can actually measure 2744 02:44:23.760 --> 02:44:24.840 destructive interference. 2745 02:44:26.840 --> 02:44:28.360 They don't really talk about it a lot. 2746 02:44:29.239 --> 02:44:31.520 So we're not saying you're saying that the moon is 2747 02:44:31.559 --> 02:44:33.559 a light source in and of itself, or are you 2748 02:44:33.680 --> 02:44:35.360 saying it's reflecting the Sun's light. 2749 02:44:35.959 --> 02:44:39.440 It could be seen either way. That's why I was like, 2750 02:44:39.600 --> 02:44:42.719 you know, you could have in a scientific approach, it 2751 02:44:42.760 --> 02:44:48.520 could be reflecting light in a destructive interference, meaning that 2752 02:44:49.120 --> 02:44:52.559 the area around the moon is going to be dark, 2753 02:44:53.879 --> 02:44:57.079 but it will still have infrared which would cause the 2754 02:44:57.120 --> 02:45:00.920 cooling effect. Now, if it was a a crystal, it 2755 02:45:00.959 --> 02:45:03.559 could still we we have literally we have a stone 2756 02:45:03.600 --> 02:45:07.239 called a moonstone, and it does that with light exactly. 2757 02:45:07.879 --> 02:45:10.120 So who's to say it could have been fucking called 2758 02:45:10.159 --> 02:45:12.120 that because you know, back in the day, we knew 2759 02:45:12.159 --> 02:45:15.040 what the moon actually did, and it could be a 2760 02:45:15.120 --> 02:45:18.600 crystal instead of whatever they say it is to where 2761 02:45:18.680 --> 02:45:22.520 it could cause destructive interference and it will create a 2762 02:45:24.040 --> 02:45:28.799 you know, dark circle around where the moon is and 2763 02:45:28.879 --> 02:45:33.280 if it is a you know, a lesser light, it 2764 02:45:33.319 --> 02:45:37.920 could still be creating a destructive interference and still create 2765 02:45:37.959 --> 02:45:42.399 a biblical Wise, it could still create uh infrared to 2766 02:45:42.559 --> 02:45:48.680 cause the cooling. I no longer have to have the 2767 02:45:48.719 --> 02:45:53.920 sun sunlight being blocked out with the Moon. It can 2768 02:45:54.000 --> 02:45:59.479 now create a more darkening radiative effect. 2769 02:46:00.559 --> 02:46:03.280 But how much light would the Moon have to either 2770 02:46:03.360 --> 02:46:06.440 a be emitting or be reflecting back at the Sun 2771 02:46:06.559 --> 02:46:10.239 for it to offset it to such a degree to 2772 02:46:10.239 --> 02:46:13.440 where it only shines on one section of the map 2773 02:46:13.879 --> 02:46:18.040 for twenty four hours, Like we're talking basically a second sun. 2774 02:46:19.479 --> 02:46:23.159 I mean, well, no, I'm saying that it so across 2775 02:46:23.200 --> 02:46:26.159 the flat plane, sunlight's going to reach the entire thing. 2776 02:46:26.319 --> 02:46:29.120 With the flat earth model. The only thing that's getting 2777 02:46:29.120 --> 02:46:32.680 shaded is what is you know, basically on the other 2778 02:46:32.760 --> 02:46:36.959 side of the Moon. With this, it is it things 2779 02:46:37.000 --> 02:46:39.760 that are in front of the Moon will also be darkened. 2780 02:46:40.959 --> 02:46:43.719 But the flight I see what you get, right, Actually 2781 02:46:43.760 --> 02:46:46.040 I don't. I don't really understand where you're going with this. Man. Well, 2782 02:46:46.040 --> 02:46:48.639 I know a flat earth model, the Sun goes down 2783 02:46:48.680 --> 02:46:50.360 to one section like a flashlight and it kind of 2784 02:46:50.440 --> 02:46:53.799 rotates around it. Right, that's why, I'm how would the 2785 02:46:53.840 --> 02:46:57.000 moon offset that based off of infrared light. 2786 02:46:58.280 --> 02:47:01.879 But it's still emitting the infrared light, but the actual 2787 02:47:02.000 --> 02:47:05.040 visible light, the sunlight that you see that it is 2788 02:47:05.200 --> 02:47:08.479 what it is negating, so you would have just the darkness. 2789 02:47:10.520 --> 02:47:14.840 Well, I don't know about all of the flat earth models, 2790 02:47:14.879 --> 02:47:19.600 but the one that I'm most familiar with in they 2791 02:47:19.639 --> 02:47:23.440 say that the sun and the moon are local light sources. 2792 02:47:23.959 --> 02:47:27.200 So not necessarily saying that the sun is so powerful 2793 02:47:27.200 --> 02:47:31.319 that it would like the sunlight would shine everywhere, It's 2794 02:47:31.399 --> 02:47:33.879 that it's a local kind of thing, like a flashlight. 2795 02:47:33.920 --> 02:47:35.879 Eventually that light is just going You're not going to 2796 02:47:35.920 --> 02:47:38.799 see it, you know, the farther you're out, the farther 2797 02:47:38.840 --> 02:47:41.840 out that you shine the sun or the flash light. 2798 02:47:42.200 --> 02:47:45.239 And the issue with that is, like what we do 2799 02:47:45.440 --> 02:47:50.639 know about the way light works is from the normal 2800 02:47:50.840 --> 02:47:53.000 flat earth model, it seems like there could be some 2801 02:47:53.159 --> 02:47:58.159 like dimmer areas. What we know about light that it's 2802 02:47:58.239 --> 02:48:00.360 not if you have the sun there, everything is going 2803 02:48:00.399 --> 02:48:03.239 to be lit up unless it is being physically blocked 2804 02:48:03.280 --> 02:48:07.399 by the moon or unless something is creating a destructive interference. 2805 02:48:08.920 --> 02:48:10.680 It's a deep one. It's a deep cut. 2806 02:48:10.879 --> 02:48:13.479 It is like I said, I'm just trying to point 2807 02:48:13.799 --> 02:48:19.799 them in a physics based direction because like I looked 2808 02:48:19.840 --> 02:48:24.200 at the you know, the stuff about Einstein's theory and 2809 02:48:25.360 --> 02:48:27.959 basing stuff off of that. Like I said, we don't 2810 02:48:28.000 --> 02:48:30.520 have to have necessarily a certain shape. We just have 2811 02:48:30.639 --> 02:48:33.360 to have mass. And like I was thinking, not because 2812 02:48:33.360 --> 02:48:35.319 of the stuff that happened with Dave, but I was like, 2813 02:48:36.200 --> 02:48:41.959 there is there's got to be somebody on the possibly 2814 02:48:42.079 --> 02:48:45.600 inside that is leading them in a weird direction to 2815 02:48:46.760 --> 02:48:49.920 not use science to argue their points. 2816 02:48:51.719 --> 02:48:54.600 Well, usually it's because they say that we can't trust 2817 02:48:54.639 --> 02:48:57.440 science and we can't trust the education system because it's 2818 02:48:57.440 --> 02:49:00.120 all you know, filtered through and we've only got and 2819 02:49:00.159 --> 02:49:02.319 what they've allowed us to receive in this type of thing. 2820 02:49:02.360 --> 02:49:03.399 So which is true to it? 2821 02:49:03.520 --> 02:49:06.760 A natural in a sense? I mean you and I 2822 02:49:07.079 --> 02:49:09.399 differ greatly on this point, Arnathan, but it's like it's 2823 02:49:09.399 --> 02:49:12.159 a it's a distrust of academia at that point. 2824 02:49:12.799 --> 02:49:15.920 Right, So they just go all the way instead of 2825 02:49:16.079 --> 02:49:20.040 just trying to argue it, they just go to there's 2826 02:49:20.040 --> 02:49:23.600 no point in arguing with you because everything you say 2827 02:49:23.639 --> 02:49:24.040 is wrong. 2828 02:49:24.879 --> 02:49:25.360 Essentially. 2829 02:49:25.479 --> 02:49:30.159 For example, I if it wasn't for the covid vaccines. 2830 02:49:30.239 --> 02:49:32.559 I probably never would have questioned vaccines. I would have 2831 02:49:32.600 --> 02:49:34.239 never even looked that way. 2832 02:49:34.360 --> 02:49:34.520 Right. 2833 02:49:34.559 --> 02:49:36.680 I would still be vaccinated my kids, I'd still be 2834 02:49:36.760 --> 02:49:40.200 vaccinated myself whatever. Not that I was ever real big 2835 02:49:40.239 --> 02:49:42.360 on like flu shot or whatever, but your initial shots 2836 02:49:42.360 --> 02:49:47.360 whenever you're born. Sure, But whenever I saw the shenanigans 2837 02:49:47.360 --> 02:49:50.079 with the covid vaccine, it made me lose all trust 2838 02:49:50.200 --> 02:49:52.799 in all vaccines. Now you could say that's that's an 2839 02:49:52.840 --> 02:49:55.959 extremist point of view, but then it you know, whenever 2840 02:49:56.000 --> 02:49:58.920 you see that there's crazy shit going on with this vaccine, 2841 02:49:58.959 --> 02:50:03.600 it's gonna open up doors to allow you to investigate 2842 02:50:03.680 --> 02:50:06.760 what other kind of sleight of hand kind of shit 2843 02:50:06.840 --> 02:50:09.319 is going on with other vaccines. And so I get 2844 02:50:09.360 --> 02:50:12.200 the idea of like, all right, well science has lied 2845 02:50:12.239 --> 02:50:14.440 to us about so many things, let's just throw it 2846 02:50:14.440 --> 02:50:16.920 all out. I understand that's an extremist point of view, 2847 02:50:16.959 --> 02:50:20.120 don't get me wrong, But I think that that's a 2848 02:50:20.200 --> 02:50:22.959 lot of times where some people are coming from. 2849 02:50:25.079 --> 02:50:27.600 I agree with you. I think that's usually where they're 2850 02:50:27.600 --> 02:50:31.079 coming from. And some take it to an extreme level. 2851 02:50:31.680 --> 02:50:35.760 Some pick and choose which science they accept, in which 2852 02:50:35.799 --> 02:50:38.879 science they don't. There are certain people of a political 2853 02:50:38.879 --> 02:50:43.239 ideology that believe that finding bacteria on Mars is completely 2854 02:50:43.280 --> 02:50:47.879 confirmation of life, but an eight month pregnancy is not 2855 02:50:48.079 --> 02:50:51.559 life somehow that equates in their minds as well, and 2856 02:50:51.600 --> 02:50:52.600 it makes no sense to me. 2857 02:50:52.840 --> 02:50:56.440 But I mean, yeah, and I'm also I'm very confused 2858 02:50:56.479 --> 02:51:01.159 about the whole life on Mars saying because and I'm 2859 02:51:01.200 --> 02:51:06.319 not mistaken yet, Mars has like a barely minimal atmosphere, right, 2860 02:51:06.760 --> 02:51:12.680 m So that means that a majority of like everything 2861 02:51:13.079 --> 02:51:16.719 is banging the fuck out of the surface, right which. 2862 02:51:16.559 --> 02:51:18.440 There was a bunch of craters and shit. Have y'all 2863 02:51:18.440 --> 02:51:22.120 seen the square they found like a building foundation on Mars? 2864 02:51:22.360 --> 02:51:24.360 Yeah, dude, that is now. 2865 02:51:24.239 --> 02:51:26.879 Again, if we are to believe that space is not 2866 02:51:27.000 --> 02:51:32.360 faking gay to people listening, Okay, but that could potentially 2867 02:51:32.399 --> 02:51:36.639 mean that someone or something at one point in time 2868 02:51:37.159 --> 02:51:40.120 had structures built on the surface of Mars, which is 2869 02:51:40.479 --> 02:51:41.319 crazy as fuck. 2870 02:51:42.680 --> 02:51:45.559 I mean, yeah, it there there was some kind of 2871 02:51:45.639 --> 02:51:50.600 proof allegedly that there used to be at some point 2872 02:51:50.719 --> 02:51:55.159 in the far distant history water on Mars, and I 2873 02:51:55.159 --> 02:51:57.440 think that's one of the arguments about around like life 2874 02:51:57.479 --> 02:51:58.159 on Mars. 2875 02:51:58.520 --> 02:51:59.719 Well, they found ice on it? 2876 02:52:00.399 --> 02:52:02.159 Ice? Well ice water yah. 2877 02:52:02.639 --> 02:52:04.479 Yeah, I'm a point though, like I'm And now we 2878 02:52:04.520 --> 02:52:07.200 get into the hypotheticals of if there was ice, that 2879 02:52:07.239 --> 02:52:09.120 means that at one point that was water. And if 2880 02:52:09.159 --> 02:52:11.559 that's the case, did mares at one time have an 2881 02:52:11.559 --> 02:52:16.280 atmosphere right and the whole surface being rust, meaning that 2882 02:52:16.280 --> 02:52:18.959 there had to be you know, iron oxide, There had 2883 02:52:18.959 --> 02:52:22.920 to be oxygen there at some point c oxygen. Now, like, 2884 02:52:22.959 --> 02:52:27.959 what what happened? Was it a giant explosion that completely 2885 02:52:28.079 --> 02:52:31.200 vaporized the atmosphere or something like that. There's so many 2886 02:52:31.239 --> 02:52:35.040 theories and then how far back is that? It's wild shit, man. 2887 02:52:35.159 --> 02:52:37.559 I think it wasn't one of their theories that the 2888 02:52:37.680 --> 02:52:41.680 core like ran out, ran out of energy, because I 2889 02:52:41.680 --> 02:52:43.559 think Tony was talking about it one time like our 2890 02:52:43.600 --> 02:52:48.079 core mainly being powered by radioactive sources, which is true. 2891 02:52:48.079 --> 02:52:52.159 A majority of it is like radioactive sources. So if 2892 02:52:52.200 --> 02:52:55.520 we lose that, you know, no more dynamo effects and 2893 02:52:55.600 --> 02:53:00.920 no more magnu magnetic field to protect us. So I remember, 2894 02:53:01.120 --> 02:53:06.040 I don't remember if it was a a night episode 2895 02:53:06.159 --> 02:53:08.319 or if it was a cult episode, but you were 2896 02:53:08.360 --> 02:53:11.120 talking about the different types of radiation. 2897 02:53:12.399 --> 02:53:14.600 Yeah, I think Tony actually brought that up on an 2898 02:53:14.600 --> 02:53:19.200 occasion night episode. He has done a lot of work 2899 02:53:19.280 --> 02:53:22.639 in that field similar to you, not with NDAT but 2900 02:53:22.959 --> 02:53:25.520 some other type of like looking at radioactive isotopes and 2901 02:53:25.559 --> 02:53:28.200 things like that. And to that point, Yeah, they can 2902 02:53:28.319 --> 02:53:30.079 run out, they have a half life, they have a 2903 02:53:30.120 --> 02:53:32.799 full life, and then they eventually die off. Now that's 2904 02:53:33.120 --> 02:53:35.239 you know, depending on the isotope and depending on how 2905 02:53:35.280 --> 02:53:38.719 long and how it's charging all these things, but eventually 2906 02:53:39.200 --> 02:53:43.079 that is a theory is that Mars's core ran out 2907 02:53:43.120 --> 02:53:47.639 of the radioactive isotopes that were operating it, so to speak, 2908 02:53:48.399 --> 02:53:50.200 basically the battery ran out of juice. 2909 02:53:50.680 --> 02:53:54.040 Right, So do you know about the alpha, beta, and 2910 02:53:54.040 --> 02:53:57.639 gamma particles? So do you know how they differ? 2911 02:53:58.920 --> 02:54:02.000 I used to know that off top, isn't it the 2912 02:54:02.040 --> 02:54:03.639 waveforms that they take. 2913 02:54:03.680 --> 02:54:08.479 Well, basically like how they themselves work. So like alpha, 2914 02:54:09.840 --> 02:54:11.840 like you can imagine it, it just hits your skin 2915 02:54:12.040 --> 02:54:15.879 and bounces off. It can cause like skin cancer and 2916 02:54:15.920 --> 02:54:20.840 stuff like that. Beta is typically only harmful if you 2917 02:54:21.399 --> 02:54:24.319 ingest it and then it kind of bounces around like 2918 02:54:24.399 --> 02:54:29.879 a crackhead sonic inside and then gamma. Gamma is the 2919 02:54:29.920 --> 02:54:34.239 real issue. Gamma is like taking a twenty two but 2920 02:54:34.520 --> 02:54:36.559 firing it at mock fuck at your body. 2921 02:54:37.280 --> 02:54:39.280 Yeah, it penetrates to your bones. 2922 02:54:39.559 --> 02:54:44.559 Yeah, and it'll it'll really fuck you up. That's why 2923 02:54:44.600 --> 02:54:49.120 I don't if they find life on Mars of even 2924 02:54:49.159 --> 02:54:53.840 a bacterial like whatever, I don't necessarily believe it because 2925 02:54:53.840 --> 02:54:57.360 it's getting blasted by so much radiation that I really 2926 02:54:57.399 --> 02:54:59.559 don't believe that there's anything that's going to be living there. 2927 02:55:00.440 --> 02:55:03.079 But cockroaches can live through all of the radiation on 2928 02:55:03.120 --> 02:55:04.319 this planet correct. 2929 02:55:04.000 --> 02:55:06.840 To a certain extent. So is it when we're talking 2930 02:55:06.840 --> 02:55:09.760 about getting blasted like that, I don't believe that they would. 2931 02:55:10.200 --> 02:55:13.239 I mean, you're talking about an actual molecular change. At 2932 02:55:13.239 --> 02:55:19.319 that point, you have gamma particles can literally hit your helix, 2933 02:55:19.360 --> 02:55:24.879 your DNA strand and tear it apart. That cockroa changed 2934 02:55:24.879 --> 02:55:25.559 about not shit. 2935 02:55:26.239 --> 02:55:28.239 Which I also think is that if and I'm not 2936 02:55:28.239 --> 02:55:30.719 even saying that I believe the whole bacteria on Mars thing, 2937 02:55:31.120 --> 02:55:35.479 you know, hypothetically speaking, if it was to be some 2938 02:55:35.520 --> 02:55:39.360 sort of life on Mars, I think that a molecular 2939 02:55:39.440 --> 02:55:42.760 bacteria type structure would be the only type of life 2940 02:55:42.799 --> 02:55:45.200 that could exist. But then again, I'm looking at it 2941 02:55:45.239 --> 02:55:47.479 and thinking about it through a human lens. Right, I'm 2942 02:55:47.479 --> 02:55:50.559 thinking about carbon based life forms, and I'm thinking about 2943 02:55:50.760 --> 02:55:53.399 what we would consider it to be life, living, breathing, 2944 02:55:53.479 --> 02:55:56.760 or whatever the case is. I have no idea the 2945 02:55:56.840 --> 02:56:00.719 molecular structure of the alleged bacteria on another planet, or 2946 02:56:00.719 --> 02:56:04.280 how it's configured, or what the cell structures look like. 2947 02:56:04.319 --> 02:56:06.360 You know what I mean, If I remember right, we 2948 02:56:06.799 --> 02:56:12.680 actually finally discovered something that technically wasn't a carbon based 2949 02:56:12.719 --> 02:56:14.799 life form, and it was down at the bottom of 2950 02:56:14.799 --> 02:56:19.120 the ocean around the thermal tubes and we found some 2951 02:56:19.360 --> 02:56:21.479 I don't know whether it was a bacteria or whether 2952 02:56:21.559 --> 02:56:24.840 it was an actual organism or what, but it it 2953 02:56:24.879 --> 02:56:30.120 was similar to a carbon structure, but it wasn't exactly it. 2954 02:56:31.200 --> 02:56:33.600 I remember hearing about them finding some sort of life 2955 02:56:33.639 --> 02:56:36.159 in those volcanic tubes, but I don't remember what it 2956 02:56:36.280 --> 02:56:39.239 was because I whenever I found that, I then found 2957 02:56:39.239 --> 02:56:42.559 out that we have something called a volcanic snail, and 2958 02:56:42.600 --> 02:56:45.200 that kind of completely took my attention in that direction. 2959 02:56:45.239 --> 02:56:47.120 Their shell is made of iron, they look like a 2960 02:56:47.159 --> 02:56:50.399 real fucking dragon, and they just live next to lava. 2961 02:56:50.600 --> 02:56:54.600 Because Pokemon, fucking Pokemon in real life right, But like, yeah, 2962 02:56:54.600 --> 02:56:57.319 so I know they found something in the underwater back 2963 02:56:58.040 --> 02:57:01.040 volcanic tubes, couldn't tell you what it was. But if 2964 02:57:01.040 --> 02:57:03.959 it's not carbon based, I'm you know what, I'm gonna 2965 02:57:03.959 --> 02:57:08.520 look that up. What the hell is that? Huh? 2966 02:57:08.840 --> 02:57:13.079 And so, so what is your overarching theme here? You're 2967 02:57:13.120 --> 02:57:17.399 saying flat Earth not not necessarily correct, round Earth not 2968 02:57:17.479 --> 02:57:20.760 necessarily correct? What is the model that you are proposing 2969 02:57:20.799 --> 02:57:23.559 for the people who may be in between? 2970 02:57:24.239 --> 02:57:28.680 If I'm if I'm thrown out a realistic view of 2971 02:57:28.760 --> 02:57:33.399 what science says it more than likely is going to 2972 02:57:33.479 --> 02:57:36.840 be a spherical model, but it is I think it's 2973 02:57:36.879 --> 02:57:38.760 going to be larger than what they say it is 2974 02:57:40.639 --> 02:57:46.799 if the numbers are swayed. And you know, we don't 2975 02:57:46.840 --> 02:57:49.680 have a complete understanding because again we're just getting into 2976 02:57:49.760 --> 02:57:52.959 dark energy. I mean, the stuff that I was talking 2977 02:57:52.959 --> 02:57:56.520 about could very well be possible. I mean, we we 2978 02:57:58.000 --> 02:58:03.079 are just discovering different demention and to say that they 2979 02:58:03.159 --> 02:58:07.840 don't have an effect on our you know, fabric of 2980 02:58:07.879 --> 02:58:12.559 space time would be incredibly irresponsible to say. 2981 02:58:14.079 --> 02:58:15.680 So who's to say what a. 2982 02:58:15.719 --> 02:58:20.079 Different even if like, for instance, like say we couldn't 2983 02:58:20.079 --> 02:58:25.680 interact with a fifth dimensional thing, a fifth dimensional thing 2984 02:58:25.760 --> 02:58:27.920 could easily interact with us. 2985 02:58:28.000 --> 02:58:29.079 You know, you. 2986 02:58:31.200 --> 02:58:34.879 A figure on a piece of paper wouldn't really affect 2987 02:58:34.920 --> 02:58:37.440 you all that much, but you can obviously affect it. 2988 02:58:38.600 --> 02:58:42.200 So what kind of effect that that is creating in 2989 02:58:42.520 --> 02:58:47.040 our didn't like dimension that we don't know about, and 2990 02:58:47.040 --> 02:58:49.440 that we're just throwing numbers at and making it work. 2991 02:58:49.680 --> 02:58:50.280 I don't know. 2992 02:58:51.799 --> 02:58:52.959 That is at some point in time. 2993 02:58:52.959 --> 02:58:56.319 It's it's literally infinite possibilities. 2994 02:58:57.879 --> 02:59:03.239 So it says hot mineral rich flow would supply nutrient chemicals. Microbes, 2995 02:59:03.360 --> 02:59:05.799 some of which eat these chemicals, form the base of 2996 02:59:05.840 --> 02:59:09.879 the food chain for a diverse community of organisms. These 2997 02:59:10.079 --> 02:59:13.719 vents are the only places on Earth where the ultimate 2998 02:59:13.799 --> 02:59:16.680 source of energy for life is not sunlight but the 2999 02:59:16.760 --> 02:59:21.559 inorganic earth itself. Wow, I can't find anything about their 3000 02:59:21.559 --> 02:59:23.559 carbon based or not. I will be doing more digging 3001 02:59:23.559 --> 02:59:26.639 on that later though. Good God. 3002 02:59:27.399 --> 02:59:31.040 Strange and that that's wild as hell. 3003 02:59:32.680 --> 02:59:37.399 So the your proposal is is that the Earth is 3004 02:59:37.639 --> 02:59:40.719 probably a lot bigger, and that's why a lot of 3005 02:59:40.760 --> 02:59:44.360 the math the flat earthers are attacking the globe Earth 3006 02:59:44.360 --> 02:59:48.600 are about that. It's actually more it's more correct to 3007 02:59:48.680 --> 02:59:51.520 just say that the Earth is a lot larger, which 3008 02:59:51.600 --> 02:59:54.920 which does make sense too, you know, like they I 3009 02:59:54.959 --> 02:59:58.040 saw this old woman whipping out like maps and shit. 3010 02:59:58.120 --> 03:00:00.200 It's like a little video. I think it's couple years old, 3011 03:00:00.600 --> 03:00:04.159 but she was basically trying to prove you know, whenever 3012 03:00:04.200 --> 03:00:08.040 you're looking at a map, the idea that Greenland is 3013 03:00:08.120 --> 03:00:12.040 bigger than South America, it doesn't make any sense, right, 3014 03:00:12.079 --> 03:00:13.840 But if you look at a map, Greenland is like 3015 03:00:13.920 --> 03:00:17.680 way bigger than than South America. And she goes, no, actually, 3016 03:00:17.760 --> 03:00:20.639 South America, I think it was like, is like eight 3017 03:00:20.680 --> 03:00:24.639 times bigger than Greenland or SMIs right now, So why 3018 03:00:24.639 --> 03:00:27.040 would they lie about that? Like, what is the point 3019 03:00:27.040 --> 03:00:30.239 in lying about that? If if you're not trying to 3020 03:00:31.479 --> 03:00:34.239 I mean, throw a little veil over the people's eyes 3021 03:00:34.280 --> 03:00:36.479 and say, well, this is all we got, no need 3022 03:00:36.520 --> 03:00:38.799 to go searching for any more, you know. And that's 3023 03:00:38.840 --> 03:00:42.520 the thing. You know what, in this day and age 3024 03:00:42.559 --> 03:00:45.920 where we think that everything has already all been discovered, 3025 03:00:46.399 --> 03:00:49.760 if the earth is bigger than what we're led to believe, 3026 03:00:50.360 --> 03:00:52.959 like you would have more people going out there and 3027 03:00:53.000 --> 03:00:55.879 trying to discover, like you would try And I mean 3028 03:00:55.920 --> 03:00:57.399 I'm not gonna say I would. I mean I'm not 3029 03:00:57.399 --> 03:00:58.879 going to get in a fucking boat and like go 3030 03:00:58.920 --> 03:01:01.959 around icebergs and sit like that. But there definitely would 3031 03:01:01.959 --> 03:01:04.120 be people that didn't want to do that. And then 3032 03:01:04.280 --> 03:01:06.760 you know, it's like, you know, Antarctica is actually a 3033 03:01:06.760 --> 03:01:09.479 lot bigger than what they say, Africa is actually a 3034 03:01:09.520 --> 03:01:12.479 lot bigger than what they say. And I mean, who's 3035 03:01:12.520 --> 03:01:15.040 to say that the entire ball, if it is a ball, 3036 03:01:15.399 --> 03:01:18.399 Who's to say the entire ball itself wouldn't then be 3037 03:01:18.760 --> 03:01:19.559 a lot bigger. 3038 03:01:20.079 --> 03:01:22.760 So I like, and one of the problems I have 3039 03:01:22.879 --> 03:01:24.760 with that is, like you think about the time that 3040 03:01:24.799 --> 03:01:28.120 a majority of those maps were made. You're talking about 3041 03:01:28.479 --> 03:01:33.040 where art was king Like you look at things whenever 3042 03:01:33.079 --> 03:01:35.680 we first started doing cartography, and we were looking at 3043 03:01:35.760 --> 03:01:40.520 maps and trying to, you know, show how everything was. 3044 03:01:41.239 --> 03:01:45.319 You're talking about you know, buildings with how beautiful they 3045 03:01:45.360 --> 03:01:50.879 were being built, with how just everything in general. I mean, arguably, 3046 03:01:50.920 --> 03:01:54.079 I would say, like nowadays us looking at the clothes, like, yeah, 3047 03:01:54.120 --> 03:01:57.319 they're kind of excessive, but back then they even designed 3048 03:01:57.319 --> 03:02:03.200 the clothes to be beautiful. Right, For something that would 3049 03:02:03.360 --> 03:02:08.280 involve that much art, I find it hard to believe 3050 03:02:08.639 --> 03:02:14.040 that the artists would not try to achieve perfection. 3051 03:02:14.959 --> 03:02:18.440 Maybe, but then there's also creative liberties that are taken, right. 3052 03:02:18.479 --> 03:02:20.760 I mean, you look at if a map of the 3053 03:02:20.799 --> 03:02:24.840 world was made in the mid seventeen hundreds by a 3054 03:02:24.920 --> 03:02:30.239 British cartographer, he makes the island of England look significantly 3055 03:02:30.319 --> 03:02:32.799 bigger off the coast of Europe than what it actually 3056 03:02:32.920 --> 03:02:37.520 is by modern satellite imagery. I mean there's something to 3057 03:02:37.520 --> 03:02:39.360 be said for that as well. Right, I've seen maps 3058 03:02:39.360 --> 03:02:42.920 where it makes America look like or North America look massive, 3059 03:02:42.920 --> 03:02:46.639 in South America look much smaller in textbooks in reality 3060 03:02:46.719 --> 03:02:50.600 that's not exactly the case. Or Australia looks like, oh, 3061 03:02:50.639 --> 03:02:52.360 it's just an island out there. It's like, no, that's 3062 03:02:52.399 --> 03:02:55.760 a fucking continent island out there. You see what I mean. 3063 03:02:55.799 --> 03:02:58.200 It's there are creative liberties that come out there, and 3064 03:02:58.239 --> 03:03:00.639 then you have to look at the quality of the 3065 03:03:00.799 --> 03:03:03.639 artists and what their biases might have been. And I 3066 03:03:03.639 --> 03:03:06.479 mean there is definitely some of that to go around, 3067 03:03:06.760 --> 03:03:08.280 for sure, right. 3068 03:03:08.159 --> 03:03:11.680 But it shouldn't be like we're talking about why would 3069 03:03:11.719 --> 03:03:15.440 we care about creative liberties, We're talking about land masses. 3070 03:03:15.799 --> 03:03:16.000 You know. 3071 03:03:16.079 --> 03:03:18.319 It's like the same thing with NASA. It's like, oh, 3072 03:03:18.360 --> 03:03:19.959 this is a picture and then you find out no, 3073 03:03:20.079 --> 03:03:24.959 it's actually like a million pictures onto one picture. And 3074 03:03:25.040 --> 03:03:27.200 I don't know. It's just like it's very deceiving in 3075 03:03:27.239 --> 03:03:31.040 that sense. And so I mean I I vibe with it. 3076 03:03:31.079 --> 03:03:33.920 I mean I could definitely buy that the Earth is 3077 03:03:33.959 --> 03:03:36.559 a lot bigger than what we're told. I mean, why 3078 03:03:36.559 --> 03:03:39.079 wouldn't it be like they fucking lied about everything else? 3079 03:03:40.200 --> 03:03:44.440 Could it also be that it's changed shape over time? Right? 3080 03:03:44.520 --> 03:03:47.360 Like we know that the equator and it's wider at 3081 03:03:47.360 --> 03:03:52.520 that surface. I would possibly say that maybe three thousand 3082 03:03:52.600 --> 03:03:56.760 years ago, perhaps it wasn't as wide and slowly, but 3083 03:03:56.840 --> 03:03:58.040 surely it's gotten wider. 3084 03:04:01.600 --> 03:04:04.799 So there's there's a possibility of. 3085 03:04:06.159 --> 03:04:10.639 Maybe not land mass changes due to tectonic plates. But 3086 03:04:11.799 --> 03:04:14.399 this is a is it going to be a controversial one? 3087 03:04:14.639 --> 03:04:17.200 Oh, we're super hypothetical here, bro, So I mean, yeah, 3088 03:04:17.239 --> 03:04:19.000 this is this is the actual belief that I have, 3089 03:04:19.799 --> 03:04:21.120 like a legit one. 3090 03:04:21.319 --> 03:04:25.399 So get Do I think that climate change is a thing? 3091 03:04:25.559 --> 03:04:25.719 Yes? 3092 03:04:25.959 --> 03:04:30.639 Do I think that sea levels are rising? 3093 03:04:31.280 --> 03:04:34.920 No? I do not think that they are really. So 3094 03:04:35.040 --> 03:04:39.159 for example, where you live at what's the major issue. 3095 03:04:39.000 --> 03:04:42.120 Where I live? Coastal erosion due to neutrarats eating the 3096 03:04:42.159 --> 03:04:43.799 fuck out of it all. And we're losing like a 3097 03:04:43.840 --> 03:04:45.360 football field a day of land. 3098 03:04:45.879 --> 03:04:46.120 Right. 3099 03:04:46.559 --> 03:04:49.159 The water is not getting higher, the land is getting lower. 3100 03:04:51.479 --> 03:04:54.120 You think we're sinking into the sea Atlantis style. 3101 03:04:54.200 --> 03:04:58.479 Bro, Yes, it happens to all coastal shorelines no matter 3102 03:04:58.680 --> 03:05:01.040 no matter how much vegetation you have there to hold 3103 03:05:01.079 --> 03:05:05.280 onto the soil, it all eventually gets brought back out 3104 03:05:05.319 --> 03:05:06.000 into the ocean. 3105 03:05:08.040 --> 03:05:09.440 Because eros is the thing. 3106 03:05:09.319 --> 03:05:12.719 That is the that is the dominant force. Water will 3107 03:05:12.760 --> 03:05:17.799 always be the ultimate solvent. It will always erode anything away. 3108 03:05:18.879 --> 03:05:22.959 So could land masses have changed and had major effects 3109 03:05:23.000 --> 03:05:25.239 over time because of that, Yeah, there's a possibility of that. 3110 03:05:25.319 --> 03:05:27.200 So maybe at one point in time the maps did 3111 03:05:27.639 --> 03:05:30.840 look more correct. 3112 03:05:30.239 --> 03:05:33.479 Right, well, and water would be more of a constant 3113 03:05:33.520 --> 03:05:35.639 than any land mass exactly. 3114 03:05:35.719 --> 03:05:39.920 And I mean like liquiefication is a thing, like the 3115 03:05:40.000 --> 03:05:45.639 even whole solid land masses could literally just turn into 3116 03:05:45.680 --> 03:05:47.680 a liquid and flow away. 3117 03:05:48.360 --> 03:05:50.280 Damn the Atlanteans are down there, bro. 3118 03:05:52.360 --> 03:05:53.159 Or up there? 3119 03:05:55.040 --> 03:05:56.440 I mean, if they're in the water. 3120 03:05:57.319 --> 03:06:01.239 Who's to say that? So even our rotation slows down 3121 03:06:01.239 --> 03:06:05.120 over time. So if we're looking at depending on maybe 3122 03:06:05.200 --> 03:06:11.000 how old of a situation like Atlantis, Like centrifical force 3123 03:06:11.040 --> 03:06:13.399 does have a thing like we have neutron stars that 3124 03:06:13.520 --> 03:06:19.559 have a incredibly high gravitational pull of course because they're 3125 03:06:19.920 --> 03:06:26.440 neutron stars, but they're spinning at seventy thousand rotations per second. 3126 03:06:27.520 --> 03:06:29.159 So literally, as. 3127 03:06:29.040 --> 03:06:32.799 Soon as something gets pulled into its gravity, it flings 3128 03:06:32.799 --> 03:06:37.680 it the fuck away, just slingshots based off of its 3129 03:06:37.719 --> 03:06:41.520 own gravity, repelling against its own gravity. Right, So we 3130 03:06:42.680 --> 03:06:45.360 who's to say what could have been done by centrifugal 3131 03:06:45.440 --> 03:06:47.520 forces back in the day when the Earth was rotating 3132 03:06:47.520 --> 03:06:48.399 at a faster speed. 3133 03:06:50.840 --> 03:06:51.239 Damn. 3134 03:06:52.079 --> 03:06:54.079 I mean, as of right now, it can't overcome the 3135 03:06:54.319 --> 03:06:57.520 gravitational force, but it wasn't always like that. 3136 03:07:00.719 --> 03:07:01.079 Huh. 3137 03:07:01.120 --> 03:07:06.319 Interesting concepts, sir, No, go ahead. 3138 03:07:06.600 --> 03:07:10.120 Oh, and we have so many things that are creating 3139 03:07:10.159 --> 03:07:15.120 gravity wells across the entire space time itself, that the 3140 03:07:15.239 --> 03:07:18.879 amount of different things interacting with just one thing, like 3141 03:07:18.920 --> 03:07:22.719 you could have, for example, the Andromeda galaxy, like the 3142 03:07:22.719 --> 03:07:25.399 gravitational wave that it create or a gravitational well that 3143 03:07:25.440 --> 03:07:25.959 it creates. 3144 03:07:26.399 --> 03:07:27.319 We're writing in that. 3145 03:07:29.079 --> 03:07:32.280 Everything is writing inside of everything's gravitational well. 3146 03:07:33.680 --> 03:07:35.360 It all flows to well. And now I will say 3147 03:07:35.440 --> 03:07:39.040 together but it all sort of feeds off of each 3148 03:07:39.040 --> 03:07:39.680 other if you will. 3149 03:07:40.000 --> 03:07:46.120 As of right now, the velocity is able to basically 3150 03:07:46.159 --> 03:07:51.360 overcome the gravitational pull until we run out of energy, 3151 03:07:51.760 --> 03:07:54.520 and then that's whenever they're talking about eventually everything could 3152 03:07:54.559 --> 03:07:56.360 possibly come back to origin. 3153 03:07:58.799 --> 03:08:03.479 Wow, so you're quite literally fighting fire with fire in 3154 03:08:03.559 --> 03:08:11.000 this episode because you are essentially debunking the science with science. 3155 03:08:10.879 --> 03:08:15.000 Right, Yeah, And that's honestly, that's you're gonna If you 3156 03:08:15.040 --> 03:08:18.200 want to argue with somebody that only speaks French, why 3157 03:08:18.239 --> 03:08:21.280 the fuck are you going to argue with them in English? 3158 03:08:21.440 --> 03:08:21.920 Good point? 3159 03:08:22.000 --> 03:08:25.040 I can't argue with that logic, Bro, That's brilliant. 3160 03:08:25.920 --> 03:08:26.760 I mean, don't get me wrong. 3161 03:08:26.840 --> 03:08:28.719 Yeah, I don't have a degree, I don't have anything 3162 03:08:28.760 --> 03:08:32.440 like this, but you know how many different fucking conspiracies 3163 03:08:32.440 --> 03:08:34.239 do we look up every day to where we could 3164 03:08:34.280 --> 03:08:37.920 literally think about something, look up the equations on it, 3165 03:08:38.120 --> 03:08:40.559 test the theory. You don't have to do an actual experiment. 3166 03:08:40.760 --> 03:08:43.719 Just like I said, if you take a photo and 3167 03:08:43.959 --> 03:08:47.000 you're like, yeah, whatever is that the horizon should be 3168 03:08:47.000 --> 03:08:51.440 below it, and you know that the air is basically 3169 03:08:51.440 --> 03:08:58.120 in a favorable like condition, you know what superior mirage 3170 03:08:58.360 --> 03:09:00.840 equation to use for it. You know how far it 3171 03:09:00.920 --> 03:09:02.840 is away from you, you can tell you'll be able 3172 03:09:02.879 --> 03:09:04.559 to tell whether this is bullshit or not. 3173 03:09:05.280 --> 03:09:09.239 Wow, I like it. I like it. I like these 3174 03:09:09.280 --> 03:09:12.200 third eye open kind of conversations. This is using your 3175 03:09:12.200 --> 03:09:15.000 third eye to try and figure out some kind of shit. Yes, 3176 03:09:15.079 --> 03:09:17.799 I mean we all want to question everything like that 3177 03:09:17.959 --> 03:09:19.600 is always going to be the point of this show 3178 03:09:19.639 --> 03:09:25.280 is just questioning the main narrative at every wherever, I mean, 3179 03:09:25.319 --> 03:09:27.840 at every single nook and cranny, you should be questioning it. 3180 03:09:28.280 --> 03:09:30.399 And I like the way that you came at it. 3181 03:09:30.600 --> 03:09:34.120 And it's not just some hair brain theories. Not to 3182 03:09:34.120 --> 03:09:36.319 say there's anything wrong with those. I mean we get 3183 03:09:36.399 --> 03:09:39.280 enjoyment out of that kind of shit too, But this 3184 03:09:39.399 --> 03:09:41.959 way kind of looking at it, in this sense, I 3185 03:09:42.000 --> 03:09:46.239 appreciate that that way of thinking. It's it's very logical based, 3186 03:09:46.520 --> 03:09:49.360 and I think, you know, there's a room for that. 3187 03:09:49.440 --> 03:09:51.239 There has to be more room for that, I think 3188 03:09:51.280 --> 03:09:53.520 for the most whenever you know you're getting into the 3189 03:09:53.520 --> 03:09:56.360 physical location of certain things and how big is something 3190 03:09:56.440 --> 03:09:59.479 and how does physics work and all that other kind 3191 03:09:59.520 --> 03:09:59.760 of shit. 3192 03:09:59.840 --> 03:10:00.079 So so. 3193 03:10:01.639 --> 03:10:03.840 I love this show. Luke, could you tell the good 3194 03:10:03.840 --> 03:10:05.959 cult members where they can find you if they want 3195 03:10:05.959 --> 03:10:06.559 to research you. 3196 03:10:06.680 --> 03:10:12.000 Sir. Yeah, So I have a Twitter page that is 3197 03:10:12.600 --> 03:10:18.680 at l ukyyp. 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