Speaker 1: March seven, twenty twenty five, Allegedly, according to that thing
Speaker 1: we call a calendar, this is the early beginning to
Speaker 1: the live open mic Friday night, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: play a little piece before I get joined by my
Speaker 1: co host. Why well, you know what, we'll do some
Speaker 1: commentary on it, and I'm sure we'll get to it
Speaker 1: at some point. But you know what, I don't even
Speaker 1: feel like I need to explain this except to tell
Speaker 1: you that it's from the Daily Show and it's about
Speaker 1: one of the events earlier this week that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have a weird feeling should come up during this discussion,
Speaker 1: but who knows, because we are getting the zone flooded
Speaker 1: in the news and the news speak and the weirdness
Speaker 1: of the now. And let's see how it is. Anyway,
Speaker 1: here we are on a Friday night. You'll be able
Speaker 1: to call in, and you can start any time three
Speaker 1: one nine, five two seven five zero one six. I
Speaker 1: will take a quick break and bring my cost in
Speaker 1: right after we play a portion of the opening from
Speaker 1: Monday Night's Daily Show on Comedy Central. Maybe I'll even
Speaker 1: give you guys the link. I guess. Yeah, let's put
Speaker 1: that link in the live chatroom at Ochelli dot com
Speaker 1: just to show you guys that I am live and
Speaker 1: Bepete's video of the week video. What does he call
Speaker 1: it music? Bepete's music video? Oh do week? Oh the week?
Speaker 1: Oh d a week? Yes, indeed he does call it that,
Speaker 1: and he's got Gary Moore and Albert King up there
Speaker 1: this week. Anyway, I put the video in the chat,
Speaker 1: but I'm only going to play a portion of the video,
Speaker 1: the first segment from the Monday night Daily Show. And
Speaker 1: like I said, then we'll get into it with your calls.
Speaker 1: Bepete and whatever the hell's else goes on until ten
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on O'Kelly dot com. Let's see how it goes.
Speaker 2: Television view on Russia's fearfulness.
Speaker 3: The new administration is rapidly changing all foreign policy configurations.
Speaker 1: Okay, just to let you know where I'm picking this
Speaker 1: up from. He's replaying and showing translations from Russian television
Speaker 1: about the reactions to the Zolensky slash Trump meeting slat
Speaker 1: wells Zolensky Trump vance, I guess meeting in the White
Speaker 1: House there and what happened, And you know that's been
Speaker 1: a big discussion throughout everything, and who knows, maybe we
Speaker 1: won't even talk about it tonight. It'll be up to
Speaker 1: you guys to call in. Anyhow, he's starting off with
Speaker 1: the Russian media. I forgot to leave that part of
Speaker 1: it intact. So here we go.
Speaker 3: This largely coincides with our vision.
Speaker 1: America said, do whatever you want. It has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with us. It's such a pleasure to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically he is taking our bread and butter.
Speaker 4: We wanted to sell the Western world into pieces, but
Speaker 4: he decided to saw through it himself.
Speaker 2: Not only are the Russians not fearful, they're delighted. Do
Speaker 2: you know how hard it is to delight a Russian?
Speaker 1: See it's funny because the the the right wing media
Speaker 1: has been trying to say, now, now they're really going
Speaker 1: to be afraid of Trump in Russia because he doesn't
Speaker 1: take crap from anybody, and it's not exactly that. And
Speaker 1: that's what John Stewart's pointing out. Anyway, Let's let John
Speaker 1: Stewart point out the rest of would I would have
Speaker 1: pointed out had I done the show last night, or
Speaker 1: on Monday night or on Tuesday night. Instead, I did
Speaker 1: a double on Wednesday and hopefully you guys got that
Speaker 1: one one podcast, but two hours, so usually I'm doing
Speaker 1: one hour cast. Anyhow, here we go. There's only two ways.
Speaker 2: To do it, break up the Western democratic order or
Speaker 2: fair unroller states it's the.
Speaker 1: Only two ways.
Speaker 2: Or social media.
Speaker 1: You uh oh, now we got commercials, so give it
Speaker 1: a sack. I'll get through the commercial crap and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll do that. It's such a pleasure to walk. Yeah. Basically,
Speaker 1: he is taking our bread and butter.
Speaker 4: We wanted to sell the Western world into pieces, but
Speaker 4: he decided to saw through it himself.
Speaker 2: Not only are the Russians not fearful, they're delighted. Do
Speaker 2: you know how hard it is to delight a Russian.
Speaker 1: There's only two ways.
Speaker 2: To do it, break up the Western democratic order or
Speaker 2: bear un roller states it's the only two ways. Or
Speaker 2: social media dashcan death?
Speaker 1: Three things?
Speaker 2: Really, look None of this is to say Zelenski handled
Speaker 2: this meeting well.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows by now.
Speaker 2: Trump's love language is subservience. If he calls your wife ugly,
Speaker 2: you praise him. If he calls you witle, you run
Speaker 2: his state department. And if you're a foreign leader who
Speaker 2: wants to be on good terms with America. You got
Speaker 2: a butter Trump up Lake, He's Texas toast British PM
Speaker 2: care Armer knows how it's done.
Speaker 5: It is my pleasure to bring from His Majesty the
Speaker 5: King a letter he sends his best wishes. It's an
Speaker 5: invitation for a second stage visits.
Speaker 1: This is really special. This has never happened before.
Speaker 5: This is unprecedented, and I think that just symbolized is
Speaker 5: to understand a little bit.
Speaker 2: Trump and the Republicans like Putin better.
Speaker 1: Just listen to put.
Speaker 3: The radical neoliberalism, destroying traditional values, the obsessive emphasis on race,
Speaker 3: modern cancel culture. It turns into reverse discrimination, of reverse racism.
Speaker 3: But they invented five or six genders, transformers, and trans
Speaker 3: you see, I do not even understand what it is.
Speaker 3: Share toilets for boys and girls.
Speaker 2: Cats, maddying dogs, will and grace removed.
Speaker 1: Let me come on.
Speaker 2: It sounds like Putin is primary ing Marjorie Taylor Green
Speaker 2: from the right, a woman who, by the way, gives
Speaker 2: up the whole point of this realignment.
Speaker 6: The Ukrainian government is attacking Christians.
Speaker 7: Russia is not doing that.
Speaker 1: They're not attacking Christianity.
Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, they seem to be protecting it.
Speaker 1: Anyway. There's a lot of commentary there, and now I've
Speaker 1: run out of time. So what I'm gonna do is
Speaker 1: take a break and go grab Bet Pete and see
Speaker 1: if this is what everybody wants to talk about, and
Speaker 1: if not, we'll talk about whatever you want to discuss.
Speaker 1: At three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one
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Speaker 1: It the live open mic, O'Kelly effect four eight Friday Night,
Speaker 1: Friar's Day it is and be Pete is with me,
Speaker 1: So you can now join me via the phone lines.
Speaker 1: And I would suggest that you do because you're gonna
Speaker 1: be the one who tells us what we're talking about tonight.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna ask be Pete what's on his mind. Sure,
Speaker 1: we could go to news stories, we could go to
Speaker 1: the most easily low hanging fruit out there, but you
Speaker 1: guys can determine that we need to talk about other things.
Speaker 1: What's on your mind, what needs to be discussed. How
Speaker 1: about we do something different? Bring it? Okay, three one
Speaker 1: nine five two seven five zero one six. That's the
Speaker 1: number to call. Three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 1: zero one six. I've got like one hundred open lines,
Speaker 1: so you know, you can get on there and I
Speaker 1: will put you through as fast as I can. As
Speaker 1: soon as I see and I get a break in
Speaker 1: the conversation, I'll bring you on. And I want to
Speaker 1: get to everybody, everybody who calls, So come on and
Speaker 1: bring it. Three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 1: one six, first time, last time, only time caller. Do
Speaker 1: it three one nine five two seven five zero one six. Anyways, Pete, Pete,
Speaker 1: I love this. I get you on the line, you know,
Speaker 1: off air, and the first thing you said is, uh,
Speaker 1: basically you're cursing all the tech giants, and uh, I
Speaker 1: do that from time to time too, So I'm wondering
Speaker 1: why you're hating on the tech giants at the moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Bill Gates is a bastard. You
Speaker 1: know he's gonna take away Skype. I mean, you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 11: Saw that message at the beginning of the week.
Speaker 12: I thought, damn, you know, here's why now I've got
Speaker 12: not on that. I'm a name dropper, but I usually
Speaker 12: buy Hewli Packard laptops. Okay, I've always had good luck
Speaker 12: with them.
Speaker 11: They usually lasted me for years. But I'm at the
Speaker 11: point now.
Speaker 12: I came upgrade to Windows eleven because my processor isn't
Speaker 12: big enough, right, But I can run everything else. But
Speaker 12: I use Mozilla Firefox as my browser, and.
Speaker 1: They don't want to they using that anymore. Go ahead, yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't want you.
Speaker 12: They want you to upgrade on it to their new
Speaker 12: version because they're not going to do updates any longer.
Speaker 11: So I had open let's see, I had YouTube open,
Speaker 11: I had Facebook open.
Speaker 12: I just said, uh a Gale, just a quick message,
Speaker 12: how do you know how you doing? And I had
Speaker 12: X open, and everything just locked, and it locked so
Speaker 12: bad that I had to reboot my computer twice. Because
Speaker 12: usually my computer will boot up right and it may
Speaker 12: take a few minutes. But once it boots up, it's fine. Yep,
Speaker 12: you know, it's pretty quick. I can open nine, have
Speaker 12: nine tabs open different stuff usually no problem.
Speaker 1: No more.
Speaker 12: But everything is hitting together here that they're they're made obsolete.
Speaker 12: You know, I heard that. I don't know if this
Speaker 12: is true. Automakers when they come out with a line
Speaker 12: of automobile, they usually figure for twenty years of parts.
Speaker 11: Okay, well I don't know.
Speaker 12: That they do that anymore because there's so much off
Speaker 12: market stuff now that you know, they don't have to
Speaker 12: do that, but still the parts are out there.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 11: See, here's the broop, guys.
Speaker 12: As much as we pay for computers and smartphones and
Speaker 12: crap like that, they should have to keep this stuff
Speaker 12: running a certain amount of time.
Speaker 1: Well there they bring it out all right. Hang on,
Speaker 1: here's the problem, BPT with the car. I know where
Speaker 1: you're going with the car manufacturers. And the concept is
Speaker 1: called planned ops lessons, and the idea is they always
Speaker 1: had a business plan that everybody kind of agreed to, okay,
Speaker 1: and this is the way it ran. It didn't matter
Speaker 1: if it was computer manufacturers, if it was your VCR people.
Speaker 1: You ever noticed all the VCRs disappeared at the same time.
Speaker 1: Didn't matter who it was manufacturing them, you know, stuff
Speaker 1: like that, or well.
Speaker 12: Right, but I mean, but a lot of that you
Speaker 12: can put on technology changes and all that, But then
Speaker 12: faster's out here that are running this crap.
Speaker 1: Now, yes, but it's not a natural changeable No.
Speaker 11: Lescence is planned evilness, but.
Speaker 1: It is planned. Look, it used to be planned ops
Speaker 1: lessons where they made agreements all the car manufacturers. And
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you, by the way, even when we
Speaker 1: were being told that we're kind of bit war with
Speaker 1: the Japanese car makers, remembered all that, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't want the Japanese making the cars because Toyota's beating
Speaker 1: our ass and all that, they still had agreements with
Speaker 1: Detroit and every other car manufacturer on the planet. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is how yugoslaby I got to make the U
Speaker 1: Goo for Christ's sake, is because they got in on
Speaker 1: the agreement where they were going to come in good.
Speaker 12: But we're talking you know, car manufacturers, it's different, but
Speaker 12: they agreed.
Speaker 11: I'm just how to get in this.
Speaker 1: You brought up the car. You brought up the cars,
Speaker 1: all right, You brought up the cars. Let me explain
Speaker 1: to you what's happening with the computer. Okay, but you
Speaker 1: brought up the car, so I'm trying to tell you
Speaker 1: that was the old way of doing business. The computer
Speaker 1: manufacturers did the same thing for a while. Okay, you
Speaker 1: understand me. They turned around and they intentionally okay, decided
Speaker 1: that Steve Jobs stuff was allowed to thrive. And they
Speaker 1: turned around and even the zoon versus the iPod, okay,
Speaker 1: which nobody uses an iPod anymore. Everybody's got a phone
Speaker 1: does everything right, Okay, So you think that that's just
Speaker 1: a technology advancing but no, that was a planned agreement,
Speaker 1: all right, And they turned around and shut out even
Speaker 1: Bill Gates on this where he had the zoon right.
Speaker 1: The zoon had more memory, It could hold your songs longer,
Speaker 1: It wasn't as picky about how you acquired your songs.
Speaker 1: It did all that stuff. Like you could turn around
Speaker 1: and use all of your illegal bootleg music on your Zoom,
Speaker 1: no problem, okay. The zoon just was interested in the
Speaker 1: format of the file, and that was that. So even
Speaker 1: if you manufactured your own files, the zoon was willing
Speaker 1: to add them into the library like they were a store.
Speaker 1: Bought thing or you bought it from iTunes or whatever,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. And the industry said no to Bill
Speaker 1: Gates thriving at that point, the industry choked the zoon out.
Speaker 11: Okay, and they know that windows.
Speaker 1: Well, right, but here's the thing, but they said, look,
Speaker 1: Bill Gates has windows, so that means all of the
Speaker 1: PCs in the world. Basically Bill Gates has a piece
Speaker 1: of all right, And that's fine. He'll have the PCs.
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs and his people until he died anyway, had
Speaker 1: the Apple stuff. And that's that. And now you have
Speaker 1: two separate things. And you still have two separate things,
Speaker 1: either your iOS or your PC. PCs were people that
Speaker 1: don't have as much money and are going to buy
Speaker 1: five computers in six years, okay, anyway, okay, and Apple
Speaker 1: stuff lasts. I know people that bought Apple stuff around
Speaker 1: the time I started my podcast, right, they're still using
Speaker 1: the same damn computer. And I mean, these are people,
Speaker 1: you know. Even John Barber is one of them. He
Speaker 1: got one of these MacBooks. Somebody you know, I.
Speaker 11: Know, But I just I can't. I just cannot lower
Speaker 11: myself to buy Apple products.
Speaker 1: I see.
Speaker 11: I think it's oh, I think it's just.
Speaker 1: In I understand, I totally understand. But here's what happened, right,
Speaker 1: And you got to understand this part of it. Planned
Speaker 1: obsolescence was there. They'd say, look, we're gonna run our
Speaker 1: Windows thing. You know, Windows ninety five was running all
Speaker 1: the way in your computers up to like twenty ten, right, nobody, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: what was it?
Speaker 12: Windows ninety eight was probably their most stable platform.
Speaker 1: Right, And then they had the XP. The XP was
Speaker 1: very cool. It ran for like ten years, and then
Speaker 1: they said, we're not going to fix it anymore. Any
Speaker 1: of the bugs that come up because of new stuff
Speaker 1: that happens, or need for expanded memory or need for
Speaker 1: increased speed, we're not going to fix it anymore. Windows
Speaker 1: XP users, it's gonna go away. They did this because
Speaker 1: it was one of the most widely used flexible things.
Speaker 1: You could put it on any of your computers. You
Speaker 1: didn't have to go out and buy I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember this. You used to have to pay
Speaker 1: like two hundred dollars to buy the new Windows Okay.
Speaker 11: Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 12: So that's why when not go whenever I go to
Speaker 12: the pawn shop by a laptop, I always make sure
Speaker 12: it's upbraidable to the next level exactly.
Speaker 1: You have to because otherwise, guess what happens now your
Speaker 1: stuff just won't function in the new environment.
Speaker 12: So no, look at what he did with office products.
Speaker 12: You gotta you know, you gotta RNT a monthly thing now. Yeah,
Speaker 12: so it loaded onto your computer.
Speaker 11: It's ridiculous right now.
Speaker 1: You have to really, realistically, in order to function all
Speaker 1: the way across. If you want to be able to
Speaker 1: do everything, you got to buy the three sixty five, right,
Speaker 1: the office three sixty five. None of us wants to
Speaker 1: do that. Who wants to pay bill gates, you know,
Speaker 1: more than what used to be a cable bill to
Speaker 1: make sure that your computer works? Essentially, that's really that.
Speaker 12: Not only that people don't use seventy five percent of
Speaker 12: those packages anyway.
Speaker 1: No they don't. But the essential pieces that you want
Speaker 1: to use. I'm telling you something else bad. That's happening too,
Speaker 1: by the way, And everybody's going to discover this very soon.
Speaker 1: You know how everybody's got a damn Gmail account and
Speaker 1: they gave those away for free. Well, pretty soon you're
Speaker 1: gonna want to do stuff okay on Google, and Google
Speaker 1: is going to make it so you're going to have
Speaker 1: to pay them too. So they want they want a
Speaker 1: simple thing. They're starting out with a small rate where
Speaker 1: you got to pay them like eight dollars a month,
Speaker 1: ten dollars a month or something. But if you do that,
Speaker 1: we'll give you all kinds of cloud storage. We'll give
Speaker 1: you expanded email use, we'll give you, you.
Speaker 11: Know, eighty things you don't need.
Speaker 1: And a bunch of things that most people are never
Speaker 1: gonna use. They just want their damn email to work.
Speaker 1: And they don't want their storage to get full because
Speaker 1: Grandma sent them the entire vacation's worth of photos downloaded
Speaker 1: from the phone, right, So they don't want that, but
Speaker 1: they need it now. So they're gonna wind up paying them.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you could pay us a smaller amount.
Speaker 1: You can buy the package alla cart And this is
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Everything is gonna be all these little
Speaker 1: monthly subscriptions. Everything is a monthly subscription now, all right,
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah it is. But not only do you
Speaker 1: have the monthly subscription, but on top of it, you
Speaker 1: think you bought a computer, and you buy a computer
Speaker 1: and they give you the platform, right, they say, look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you the newest Windows. If you buy
Speaker 1: a new computer from US, Okay, don't go buying those
Speaker 1: used computers, because I mean, at a certain point, these
Speaker 1: pawn shops have to get rid of these laptops and
Speaker 1: stuff because if they don't, they're gonna be selling useless things.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have things that are useless to people unless
Speaker 1: they're literally gonna tear the parts out of the computer,
Speaker 1: all right, Like that's the only purpose for buying a
Speaker 1: laptop from a pawn shop sometimes because the damn thing
Speaker 1: won't work anymore. If you're working on a Windows eight
Speaker 1: freaking laptop at this point and you can't upgrade it
Speaker 1: to what is it eleven? Now? I mean I'm still working.
Speaker 11: I'm long ten. I just can't go up to eleven.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I've got I've got my one system at eleven,
Speaker 1: and I've got a system sitting over here which I
Speaker 1: can't get to function very well at at at eight
Speaker 1: point two or whatever, and that's it.
Speaker 11: But I bet I stopped the price from the other day.
Speaker 12: I'm probably gonna pop four hundred bucks into a two version.
Speaker 12: All those are gaming some guy, Yeah, he built his
Speaker 12: for gaming, and yet processors I think he can run
Speaker 12: one of mus rockets off of I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing, Bpete. You know I run my
Speaker 1: broadcast off a gaming computer. Now, I know you visited,
Speaker 1: you visited my home, You've been in my in my
Speaker 1: room here where I do this. And you know I
Speaker 1: got these funky lights coming off at a back of
Speaker 1: a computer that I've got hidden behind a big screen,
Speaker 1: right Well, those funky lights are there for the gaming computer,
Speaker 1: because that's the only way I can afford. I'm better
Speaker 1: off spending a couple hundred bucks on a gaming computer
Speaker 1: that has the power to do everything I needed to do,
Speaker 1: and then either buy or acquire the upgraded Windows one
Speaker 1: or the other because it'll cost me less than going
Speaker 1: out and buying another computer. Because here's a problem. You
Speaker 1: buy another four hundred dollars computer. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: now that about a year, year and a half from now,
Speaker 1: it's gonna start not working well, and they're gonna tell you, well,
Speaker 1: you just need to buy this, and then you just
Speaker 1: need to buy that, and then eventually they're gonna tell
Speaker 1: you can't use your Mozilla, you can't use whatever browser
Speaker 1: you used to because really, you got to use our
Speaker 1: Edge Browser, right, that's what they're trying to force, a scent,
Speaker 1: and to the point where I can't even erase the
Speaker 1: Edge browser off of the newest Windows. You know that,
Speaker 1: Like I can't get rid of Windows Edge. I have
Speaker 1: to shut it down manually every time I restart my computer.
Speaker 11: And you're I went through that. There was something. I
Speaker 11: forget what I had to do.
Speaker 12: I had to go in and you can, you can
Speaker 12: disable it, and it kept that from happening.
Speaker 11: I'll forget what it was. I'll try to look it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go ahead and do that. But I'm telling
Speaker 1: you now, I know how to go in and disable
Speaker 1: those things too. And you can't disable Edge anymore. You
Speaker 1: can't completely disable it. Even if you think it's disabled,
Speaker 1: it is not disabled. It runs in the background anyway.
Speaker 1: All right, So this is the thing. Eventually, they just
Speaker 1: force you into using their crap because anything else that
Speaker 1: you liked or wanted to use doesn't work anymore. Now
Speaker 1: back to this planned ops lescence issue. The problem is
Speaker 1: that when it comes to hardware, now, the Chinese figured out, well,
Speaker 1: screw it, we can make whatever we want. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can go and buy a VCR from China, right,
Speaker 1: now brand new one. If I want to be able
Speaker 1: to use my tapes, okay, no problem. I can buy
Speaker 1: old computer stuff from China right now, okay, and it
Speaker 1: will work for a little while. They will sell it
Speaker 1: dirt cheap, simple replacements, and instead of paying four hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: I can pay them fifty or sixty dollars over the
Speaker 1: same time that you got to pay. You know, Bill
Speaker 1: Gates approved stores four hundred dollars and I can make
Speaker 1: my computers work. The Chinese are not playing ball with
Speaker 1: the planned ops lessons that is in the computer industry.
Speaker 1: Otherwise everything collapses according to time. And the only reason
Speaker 1: why these you know, platforms stop supporting their stuff is
Speaker 1: because they've been bought. Every time you turn around, you
Speaker 1: find out they've been bought. Skype is a great example.
Speaker 1: You know, they tried to buy Skype for billions of dollars.
Speaker 1: And it was back in the days when eBay was thriving.
Speaker 1: eBay wanted to buy Skype Okay to integrate it into
Speaker 1: eBay back in the early two thousands. Did you know that? Okay? Well,
Speaker 1: but here's the thing. Everybody thinks that you know, Bill
Speaker 1: Gates invented it and as per usual, Just like with
Speaker 1: Elon Musk. These guys never invent crap, they buy it. Okay,
Speaker 1: Bill Gates turned around and bought Skype and then integrated
Speaker 1: it into everything Windows. And what did he do it for?
Speaker 1: So that they had plenty of time to build guess what? Teams?
Speaker 1: All right? Once we went through the pandemic and all that,
Speaker 1: they got all the rest of their information. And this
Speaker 1: is a true story from Zoom. Yeah.
Speaker 12: I haven't even looked at that team saying that's what
Speaker 12: they're they're pushing in, you know, in the message I got.
Speaker 12: So Skype will no longer be blah blah blah after
Speaker 12: what March May?
Speaker 1: I mean it'll be May. Yeah, in May, it's going
Speaker 1: to just be done.
Speaker 11: And in use teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have any and I pay Skype, I
Speaker 1: don't just use the free service. See a lot of
Speaker 1: people just use the free service. But I pay Skype
Speaker 1: every month so I can do things on there. Now
Speaker 1: I don't even know if all my functions are available
Speaker 1: on teams, because Teams is something that keeps launching on
Speaker 1: my new computers, whether I wanted to or not. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is how I knew they were going to switch
Speaker 1: to teams anyways, any credits you have, if you had,
Speaker 1: you know, Skype credit that you bought over the years,
Speaker 1: well don't worry. You're not going to just lose your
Speaker 1: money when we shut down the platform. We're going to
Speaker 1: transfer it to teams. So they're going to try and
Speaker 1: bring all the subscribers there. They're going to try and
Speaker 1: bring all the paying customers there and on teams. Guess
Speaker 1: what they're going to figure out a way if I
Speaker 1: use teams to do this show, you and I are
Speaker 1: going to have to come up with a way to
Speaker 1: pay for your team's account. You know why, because they'll
Speaker 1: give you teams for free, like they gave you Zoom
Speaker 1: for free, but you won't have the ability to use
Speaker 1: it for long, like you won't be able to stay
Speaker 1: on a call with me for two hours a week,
Speaker 1: you see. So they'll say, look, if you want to
Speaker 1: be on there for an extended time period, you get
Speaker 1: a team's pro account and you pay us so much
Speaker 1: per month. And that's what they're going to do to you.
Speaker 1: All right, if I'm working, and that's what they'll do.
Speaker 1: People will have to do it for business. They'll either
Speaker 1: get their bosses to pay for it, or they'll personally
Speaker 1: pay for it as one of their own business expenses
Speaker 1: to go do their job. Hey, you'll be able to
Speaker 1: write off teams on your taxes if you're doing a job, right.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So they're going to force you.
Speaker 12: Yeah, no, I agree with you, but I just it's just,
Speaker 12: I don't know, frustrating the shit when you're trying to
Speaker 12: get something done and something works so smoothly one day,
Speaker 12: and this always happens after you have to update uh Mozilla.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, when you do the update, I have to
Speaker 12: open this browser like twenty times before it ever starts
Speaker 12: working smoothly.
Speaker 11: It's just irritating as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I'm not sure who bought Mozilla, but Mozilla
Speaker 1: owns a lot of things, not just Firefox, right. They
Speaker 1: actually own and this is something nobody's paying attention to.
Speaker 1: They own something called Thunderbird, which is yeah, there's your
Speaker 1: email one, but there's also another one that sounds like thunderbird.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of it. But you know what,
Speaker 1: if I pull it up right now, I can probably
Speaker 1: look at my task manager and come up with the
Speaker 1: thing that you're ready for this. Every broadcaster pretty much
Speaker 1: uses is to run a live stream, whether they know
Speaker 1: it or not in their background process. If you use
Speaker 1: a PC to run a live stream, hold on telling
Speaker 1: you now, oh right, Firebird excuse me. Thunderbird is for email,
Speaker 1: Firebird is for streaming, and believe it or not, it's
Speaker 1: the connectivity aspect for your Windows machine to do things live. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they force you to use it
Speaker 1: for like you're just skyping into me basically, right, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm using yeah, But if you look at your background processes,
Speaker 1: like if you go to your task manager and you
Speaker 1: find something that says Firebird open, yeah, it might just
Speaker 1: be a thirty two bit Firebird thing, but you have
Speaker 1: to use something for connectivity to have live back and
Speaker 1: forth communications. So, whether they know it or not, people
Speaker 1: are using every kind of platform available, whether they're paying
Speaker 1: that platform or not, are also integrated into Mozilla's stuff
Speaker 1: simultaneously with the Firebird. Okay, I can't use my professional broadcaster,
Speaker 1: which is SAM, which is the thing they use for radio.
Speaker 1: You know, any remote radio broadcaster at some point uses
Speaker 1: this an aspect of one of two one of two
Speaker 1: streaming programs on PC. They either use SAM or they
Speaker 1: use something called believe it or not, but bu t
Speaker 1: T it is. Yeah, people are making jokes when they
Speaker 1: name things, but there's a name for it, and it's
Speaker 1: the butt. So you got the butt or the sam okay,
Speaker 1: and yeah, those are the two things on PC that
Speaker 1: are used. Whether you realize you're using them or not,
Speaker 1: they are part of these packages. Now, over the years,
Speaker 1: some of these other broadcasters they tell you, oh, we
Speaker 1: have a freestanding platform, but they all actually use these things.
Speaker 1: It's like for many years people didn't realize that SHOUTcast,
Speaker 1: whether you signed up for SHOUTcast or not, some aspect
Speaker 1: of SHOUTcast was incorporated into everything. Even if he used
Speaker 1: blog talk radio, SHOUTcast was employed as part of the process.
Speaker 1: Right Anyway, My point is that all of these little manufacturers,
Speaker 1: all of these little cooperative programs, when they sweep them up,
Speaker 1: they buy them out, they shut them down. It's because
Speaker 1: they're being swept into the great corporate monster. I would
Speaker 1: not be surprised if Bill Gates and his people have
Speaker 1: bought Mozilla, Okay, I would not be surprised because that
Speaker 1: would make perfect sense, and that means he's sweeping Believe
Speaker 1: it or not, Almost every aspect of your digital experience
Speaker 1: into Windows. Okay, and still there's this pain in the
Speaker 1: assios that's out there. But how many Apple users are
Speaker 1: out there? Oh, I'm sorry. There's actually a different class
Speaker 1: of people that uses Apple, and that's the people that
Speaker 1: don't care that they got to spend, you know, eighteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars on a phone, and the people that don't
Speaker 1: mind spending two thousand dollars for a laptop. Now they
Speaker 1: get a whole lot more value out of their two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars laptop. But I can't afford to plump down
Speaker 1: two grand on a laptop when I need a new one.
Speaker 1: I can't afford an eighteen hundred dollars phone, right, So
Speaker 1: what do I do? I go buy the two hundred
Speaker 1: dollar phone. I go buy the four hundred dollars computer
Speaker 1: because that's what I can afford at the time. And basically,
Speaker 1: he's going to own all of the poor people computer shit.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Bill Gates has locked down all
Speaker 1: of the poor people computers. And then you know that
Speaker 1: there's five people that contribue. It's funny. There's five people
Speaker 1: that actually control all of the network news, and there's
Speaker 1: another five people that control all of the social media
Speaker 1: and then there's another You noticing a pattern yet, VP?
Speaker 12: And yeah, what's the latest on Gates in his his
Speaker 12: vampire mosquitos that he's been trying to get spread all
Speaker 12: over the places.
Speaker 11: He's still up to that in Africa?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well of course, But isn't that now Linda
Speaker 1: Gates isn't isn't that her foundation?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 1: Like didn't she get that in the divorce? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep track of which.
Speaker 12: He's doing this through through some arm of his network
Speaker 12: that because I read an article I about a week
Speaker 12: ago read an article about it.
Speaker 1: How and I'm trying to could be but.
Speaker 12: But my problem would develop a mosquito that would transfer
Speaker 12: some type of inoculation or something that crazy y right, and.
Speaker 1: And people are going to cheer for it. Look, we'll
Speaker 1: have the mosquitoes give you the vaccine from now on. Anyway,
Speaker 1: b Pete, let me let me get back to this
Speaker 1: whole thing though, if you don't mind the thing that
Speaker 1: drove you crazy in the first place, the plant. This
Speaker 1: is planned obsolescence two point zero. This is how they're
Speaker 1: doing it now. It's not just look, we made tires,
Speaker 1: and we know your tires are only going to last
Speaker 1: you three years, so get ready to buy your tires.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll give you a You ever notice they
Speaker 1: give you a perfectly timed like, well, we'll buy the
Speaker 1: insurance program on your electronics or whatever. If you ever
Speaker 1: keep track of that damn thing and you take really
Speaker 1: good care of whatever it is you bought the service
Speaker 1: contract on. You ever notice that stuff tops out through
Speaker 1: normal use and if you take good care of it,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, right around the time that that
Speaker 1: contract ends, your stuff dies. You ever notice that, of course,
Speaker 1: Well that's because they've already done this through those you know,
Speaker 1: those wonderful people. This is one of those things that
Speaker 1: I wish that Richard Charning was like more of a
Speaker 1: rational human being when I talk JFK stuff with him,
Speaker 1: because he's the kind of guy who does the calculations
Speaker 1: for these idiot insurance companies to screw us. This is
Speaker 1: the guy who could unlock exactly like, look, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you exactly how long stuff is gonna last you,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you exactly how it is. Insurance
Speaker 1: companies can maintain their profitability because they've already done all
Speaker 1: the calculate. Do you know how much data has to
Speaker 1: go into that and these guys organize it into these charts.
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm just saying, so just dropped a notch
Speaker 12: in my d mentioning Richard Charnon.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm just pointing out, all right, the skill
Speaker 1: that the guy does have, which is why these freaking
Speaker 1: morons listen to him about the JFK thing. They go, hey, look,
Speaker 1: he's one of those insurance guys. They don't understand the
Speaker 1: mysterious wall he works behind, or used to work behind professionally,
Speaker 1: it is pretty significant. It's just that he doesn't understand. Look,
Speaker 1: he understands products, and he does understand people's lifespans to
Speaker 1: a certain degree from the insurance company's point of view,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't understand the realistic trajectories he needs to
Speaker 1: plot to figure out how it is when it is
Speaker 1: people die. And also, it'd be nice if he made
Speaker 1: sure people were dead before he puts them on dead
Speaker 1: man's lists. Things like that.
Speaker 12: Oh, I know, I lost faith in him back when
Speaker 12: he was trying to solve the nine to eleven events. Yeah,
Speaker 12: I mean that years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if he actually applied his skills properly, honestly
Speaker 1: and didn't go for this you know, pre prescribed solutions.
Speaker 1: This guy could unlock some serious stuff. He really could,
Speaker 1: will he know not? Not before he dies. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy who's going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a standing on judgment day and somebody's gonna say why
Speaker 1: were you a moron? And he's gonna stutter, okay, because
Speaker 1: he's not gonna know why. But okay, fine, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that this guy works among people, not necessarily that
Speaker 1: he's one of the key people, either just that he
Speaker 1: works in a business or worked in a business I
Speaker 1: should say where that skill level and that amount of
Speaker 1: knowledge should have given him the ability to understand many
Speaker 1: things that would have been helpful to us. Actually, that
Speaker 1: would have revealed some very interesting trends how it is
Speaker 1: that so many people end up in so many spots
Speaker 1: in this and that he could have calculated a bunch
Speaker 1: of interesting things. Because insurance companies basically know how and
Speaker 1: when people are going to move from place to place,
Speaker 1: they know how, and when people are really going to
Speaker 1: spend money they know how. And when you know they're
Speaker 1: going to die and it's not just as simple as well,
Speaker 1: you smoke or you don't smoke, you know, the dummy
Speaker 1: questions they give you. No, it's the real data. And
Speaker 1: this is why, by the way, you know, about ten
Speaker 1: years ago I covered this story where they had this
Speaker 1: big summit, this big tech summit in Saudi Arabian. It
Speaker 1: was like ten years ago I covered the story be
Speaker 1: Pete where they were explaining that you know, gold and
Speaker 1: oil and all of these things that people think of
Speaker 1: as the great moneyed class, you know, the great you know,
Speaker 1: if you're involved in really being a robber baron in
Speaker 1: these sorts of industries, then you know you have an
Speaker 1: infinite pool of money. Well, you certainly do have a
Speaker 1: good pool of money. But what they were saying is
Speaker 1: the reality that they that that you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: way behind. You're in the wrong century if you don't
Speaker 1: realize this is that data in and of itself is
Speaker 1: the new currency, is the new exchangeable. Doesn't matter. You
Speaker 1: can gain or destroy wealth any which way you want
Speaker 1: by the manipulation of data. You know, let them literally
Speaker 1: these people were saying pretty much, let them have the oil,
Speaker 1: let them have the gold, let them have the silver,
Speaker 1: let them have all these industries that they think are
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely eternal. We have found the new answer,
Speaker 1: and it is data. And those that control it and
Speaker 1: have it and everything else you're going to see in
Speaker 1: the next few years are going to rise to power,
Speaker 1: are going to become not only parts of the government,
Speaker 1: but are really going to run your governments, run your banks,
Speaker 1: run your businesses, run every product, whether it's the food
Speaker 1: on your table or the car you're driving, or everything else.
Speaker 1: The people that really you're going to own everything are
Speaker 1: going to be the people that own the data. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's where your grand manipulation is going to come from.
Speaker 1: This wasn't a conspiracy theorist group. This was the billionaires.
Speaker 1: The billionaires who don't wind up in Forbes, right, the
Speaker 1: billionaires that are not always listed, the billionaires that are
Speaker 1: not of tention whores like Elon Musk, the other billionaires
Speaker 1: b Pete, the other billionaires that are probably trillionaires and
Speaker 1: really don't care about the number anymore because anytime they
Speaker 1: want they can just have the money printed, no problem.
Speaker 1: Those people figured out at some point that control of
Speaker 1: this thing called data and the data on all the people,
Speaker 1: all the things, the Internet of everything, This is where
Speaker 1: the key is going to come from. And still at
Speaker 1: this point in time, to be honest with you, the
Speaker 1: Internet in and of itself only has a direct influence
Speaker 1: and only has a direct connectivity to maybe one third
Speaker 1: to maybe slightly more now maybe forty percent of the
Speaker 1: planet is actually connected via the Internet. And yet they
Speaker 1: have the Internet of everything, which means even if they
Speaker 1: don't directly control it, they have enough influence over it
Speaker 1: that this is the new way to dominate the world.
Speaker 1: Not with bullets and tanks and troops, not with oil,
Speaker 1: not with you know, you can definitely do a lot
Speaker 1: of damage with energy and all these things, and different
Speaker 1: manufacturers and health food supplies, you can do a lot.
Speaker 1: But if you really want to control that stuff and
Speaker 1: all the people and all the wonderful assets on the planet,
Speaker 1: you know, we used to call them resources, but they're
Speaker 1: just assets. You want to control it all, you grab
Speaker 1: the data by the nuts or the pussy one way
Speaker 1: or the other, and you got it. You can run
Speaker 1: the world with data. This is what they were talking
Speaker 1: about at this conference that they didn't really allow too
Speaker 1: many cameras in, but they did let them in there
Speaker 1: for the opening keynote speech. And a couple of other
Speaker 1: things leaked out of it, and no news media paid attention.
Speaker 1: I bet you can't even recall what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: This big tech meeting in Saudi Arabia that they said
Speaker 1: they only have about every twenty five years. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember the name of it. I just remember being
Speaker 1: struck by the statements and the idea that these people
Speaker 1: were confidently saying, Look, this is the path. So you
Speaker 1: want to keep your billions, you want to keep your kingdoms,
Speaker 1: you want to keep your well, here's what you got
Speaker 1: to do. You got to work with us. And that's
Speaker 1: what they were telling princes and kings and you know,
Speaker 1: people you never even heard of, I'm promising you, but
Speaker 1: have fiefdoms all over the planet of one type or another,
Speaker 1: or really in control of governments, are really in control
Speaker 1: of et cetera, et cetera. These are the people that
Speaker 1: were listening to these guys speak. For some reason or other,
Speaker 1: why would they bother to even sit down with people
Speaker 1: like this. They're letting them know. The tech industry is
Speaker 1: going to control it all. The technocracy is coming, and
Speaker 1: it's actually already here. Either get on board with it
Speaker 1: or you're gonna get buried underneath the real controllers who
Speaker 1: are gonna ride this wave. So what do you think
Speaker 1: of that? I don't know, you don't know, Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: look no, I mean it's it's just I understand. It's
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 11: Everything is so tech connected now. I mean when you
Speaker 11: talk about.
Speaker 12: Data, you know, that's what gets me about these people
Speaker 12: that are complaining older.
Speaker 11: Most is going through a personal records.
Speaker 13: It's like, dude, he's probably bought them twenty years ago
Speaker 13: when you bought your first damn cell phone.
Speaker 11: What are you pitching about now?
Speaker 12: Well, people are so clueless as to how much data
Speaker 12: on them is already out there being so daily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the thing. You know, I take your
Speaker 1: point very well and say this. You know you're worried
Speaker 1: about Elon Musk having all that already. It does kind
Speaker 1: of suck that he's got direct control over it. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, what delusion are people under that
Speaker 1: Really the corporate controllers and our government were ever separated anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, not too long ago people might have complained
Speaker 1: that an unelected official is in there making decisions in
Speaker 1: our government and they're not. They're cheering it on because
Speaker 1: Elon Musk wasn't elected by anybody you know.
Speaker 12: Well well now, in all fairness, though, how many government
Speaker 12: idiots that you know make your day longer when you
Speaker 12: simply have to call and try to get, for example,
Speaker 12: another ID card and the hassle that they put you to.
Speaker 11: How many of those people are unelected.
Speaker 14: Them?
Speaker 11: Sure?
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, but most of them don't. Look if Elon
Speaker 1: Musk decided to squash you know, you and everybody you
Speaker 1: know with a phone call, he could do that. The
Speaker 1: guy jerking you around at the DMV can't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying anyway, we got callers, and I want
Speaker 1: to get to them. I don't want to keep them waiting.
Speaker 1: Looks like I've already kept one waiting while I was
Speaker 1: explaining the tech thing. And we know him, we love him.
Speaker 1: Of course, he's got his own fan club who is
Speaker 1: not responding to me anymore. But it's probably because I
Speaker 1: can't get on Facebook, because I think they were mainly
Speaker 1: on Facebook. But I urge the fans of Jimmy James
Speaker 1: to email me or something get back in touch with me. Still.
Speaker 1: He would like to hear from you, and I'll pass
Speaker 1: along your info directly to Jimmy James, if you guys
Speaker 1: will email me. I have his email address, and I
Speaker 1: can't get into my Facebook. I'm locked out completely, Like
Speaker 1: they won't give me entrance into my Facebook unless I
Speaker 1: come up with connectivity to a cell phone number that
Speaker 1: I haven't had since twenty seventeen or eighteen. So I
Speaker 1: can't get into my Facebook account at all for some reason.
Speaker 1: I'm also locked out of a few other things. He
Speaker 1: didn't even check back to see if Larry's still suspended
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I got to find out about that. He
Speaker 1: was just last night on Jefferson Morley's podcast, and he's
Speaker 1: doing some other interesting ones. And stay tuned because on Monday, Uh,
Speaker 1: if you're listening to the Ocelli dot com radio stream,
Speaker 1: you might hear a little bit of a bootleg transmission
Speaker 1: coming out of a show that both Larry and I
Speaker 1: might appear on. I'm not going to say anything else
Speaker 1: about it, don't ask me. But anyway, Jimmy James is here,
Speaker 1: and I believe I've got him on the line. How
Speaker 1: you doing, man?
Speaker 7: Do good here?
Speaker 1: So, uh, your thoughts, Jimmy, you got something you want
Speaker 1: to talk about regarding what we were talking about, or
Speaker 1: you want to go in a different direction. It is
Speaker 1: all up to you and up to anybody who calls
Speaker 1: in three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six,
Speaker 1: Come on, get on it, because you can change the
Speaker 1: direction to this discussion at any moment just by dropping
Speaker 1: in and stating what you want to discuss. So, Jimmy
Speaker 1: wide open to you. What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 7: Well, I am disappointed that you didn't last Professor Hancock
Speaker 7: about that Facebook situation the other day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was busy with other things with him, because
Speaker 1: he kind of stunned me that he wanted to make
Speaker 1: such a statement about what was going on with Ukraine.
Speaker 1: I don't script anything with him ever, or really most
Speaker 1: of my guests, I don't script anything. So I was
Speaker 1: a little surprised because usually Larry is very restrained in
Speaker 1: his commentary about things happening currently, So I didn't expect
Speaker 1: him to go in the way he did on the
Speaker 1: Ukraine situation. So I was a little surprised. Did you
Speaker 1: take a listen to.
Speaker 7: That, by the way, yet, Oh I heard it?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I was a little weren't you a little
Speaker 1: surprised that he went in so much on that? Or no,
Speaker 1: he's blogged on it by the way, since I'll get
Speaker 1: the blog link and put it in the chain room.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, obviously read it later. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you ought to check that out too, because
Speaker 1: Larry's got a lot to say about things that are
Speaker 1: happening right now. And I'll tell you, extremely well thought
Speaker 1: out historian has something to say about, you know, not
Speaker 1: only what's going on currently, but the disappointment he has
Speaker 1: in the Kennedy administration's foreign policy on in the United States.
Speaker 1: And apparently even though again he's never used to say
Speaker 1: stuff like this, he's speaking up as he's gotten older.
Speaker 1: So what can I say. I was a little surprised.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was something he said that caught my ears
Speaker 7: that I Wayne Wayne Mint Larry.
Speaker 14: I can't think of.
Speaker 7: What it was, but yeah, he was at a role
Speaker 7: there yesterday. I don't blame him. I mean, yeah, it's
Speaker 7: our If you were in the Armed forces during the
Speaker 7: Cold War, what can you say? This is really weird
Speaker 7: where watching.
Speaker 1: For the record, people for the record, Jimmy James, Larry
Speaker 1: was in the Armed Forces.
Speaker 7: I don't know, that's what I'm saying. This is weird
Speaker 7: for people like Larry BP me. I mean rights against
Speaker 7: everything we were. This is we have problems with Russians.
Speaker 7: This was infused into us all of our lives. I
Speaker 7: don't know what else to say about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, look is that you know what I mean? Well,
Speaker 1: that's how I view it. You know. Look, I wasn't
Speaker 1: in the armed forces, but I was definitely informed by
Speaker 1: a lot of people who were.
Speaker 15: And you were around in the Cold War.
Speaker 7: You're own enough to remember the Cold worry, you remember
Speaker 7: those feelings that stuff just doesn't go away.
Speaker 1: Right in mind?
Speaker 7: Can I trust the Rusians?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 7: I just can't. No, I cannot quote unquote trust the Russians, right.
Speaker 7: And it's not even their people. It's that they always
Speaker 7: get the most god awful governments, right, you know.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
Speaker 7: It's just tough, you know, it's.
Speaker 1: It's look, it's a tough thing there when it comes
Speaker 1: to that sentiment, right, that old sentiment. Sure, but even
Speaker 1: if you look beyond that, and you were somebody who
Speaker 1: again you know, from my father onto my uncles, onto
Speaker 1: my cousins, everybody who served you know, my friends, the
Speaker 1: guys who were gung ho went into the you know,
Speaker 1: desert storm. I'm giving you a variety of different people
Speaker 1: that were anxious to go into the armed services. Right.
Speaker 1: A lot of my good friends have been military guys.
Speaker 1: A lot of people that I trust, that I believe
Speaker 1: really see the world for what it is. In a
Speaker 1: lot of cases were military guys one way or another, okay,
Speaker 1: And in some cases they were my mentors. They were stepfathers,
Speaker 1: not the criminal ones, the ones that weren't criminals, or
Speaker 1: maybe the ones that weren't criminals, but that wasn't their
Speaker 1: full time job anyway. All around these guys are looking
Speaker 1: at this saying, you know, this doesn't sit well with me,
Speaker 1: and it's not because can't trust the commies, even they
Speaker 1: would always separate for me, Look at the Russian people
Speaker 1: are one thing, the Russian government is another thing. The
Speaker 1: Soviet Union is yet a third thing. And they would
Speaker 1: tell me that, you know, despite what had to be
Speaker 1: done at different times, a proxy wars and all these
Speaker 1: different things, they had a very measured view of what
Speaker 1: it is they were looking at. And any of them
Speaker 1: that are still around today pretty much are kind of
Speaker 1: scratching their heads at this, not because they're going can't
Speaker 1: trust them old commies, but because the this doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to them. Strategically. This doesn't make sense to them
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's not even all about the old sentimentality. It's
Speaker 1: just about even if this wasn't a Russian and what
Speaker 1: happened with Vladimir Putin by the way, because I could
Speaker 1: have swore he was one thing, and now they're telling
Speaker 1: us he's a completely different thing. You know, regarding how
Speaker 1: it is we got to deal with them strategically, how
Speaker 1: we got to deal with the integrated government. They always
Speaker 1: told us that when you saw the church and the
Speaker 1: government and this and that and the third thing, these
Speaker 1: were trouble signs because XYZ, this is what was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: This is how the people would stay dedicated to him.
Speaker 1: And you know, there was a reason why Stalin was
Speaker 1: able to send people into a meat grinder to put
Speaker 1: a halt to invasions. Okay, it wasn't just because they
Speaker 1: were afraid of Stalin. They were truly dedicated, and they
Speaker 1: were dedicated because of a systematic way that things were handled.
Speaker 1: And you've got to respect but also understand that this
Speaker 1: is not the same kind of thing. We don't align
Speaker 1: with this very well. If we're free people. If we're
Speaker 1: people that believe we should determine our own destinies, these
Speaker 1: are not the kind of people that are going to
Speaker 1: line up next to us. In most cases, despite what
Speaker 1: went on during World War Two. This is what military
Speaker 1: guys have always told me. This isn't my words, mind you,
Speaker 1: And are you getting a sense of that, Jimmy, where
Speaker 1: you're like, this doesn't really make sense, but still you're
Speaker 1: going to trust the process, because well, it's Trump, he's smart,
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. I mean, is that where
Speaker 1: you're at or not.
Speaker 7: Where I'm at is I will never trust well, I'll
Speaker 7: never feel that the rush should an offense to the
Speaker 7: Eastern Block. But they're just well, not even the Eastern Block.
Speaker 7: It's Russia in particular, because what's called New Europe. They're
Speaker 7: quite eager to become more like America. But Russia is
Speaker 7: they are their own culture and they want to stay
Speaker 7: their own culture. And it's not particularly it just doesn't
Speaker 7: mesh well with our freedoms and liberties. They appreciate being
Speaker 7: it doesn't seem to bother them to have patrols over
Speaker 7: their daily lives in Russia. I just we're not we're
Speaker 7: just different peoples.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 7: I just don't see a situation.
Speaker 1: Where we could see that's the truth.
Speaker 7: That's signal, kid, that's that's a ping, that would be significant, allies,
Speaker 7: there's nothing, but what are we grasping at it?
Speaker 1: Yes, you've struck a significant truth here, though, Jimmy, You've
Speaker 1: struck a very significant truth here, and that is that
Speaker 1: there's this misunderstanding among people here that think that Russians
Speaker 1: are white people and therefore they're concerned with white people things.
Speaker 1: But they're not. They don't think of themselves as white people.
Speaker 1: They're not. You know, some people go, well, yes, Europeans.
Speaker 1: I mean they did a big thing of playing you know,
Speaker 1: some of these white supremacist guys who are like and
Speaker 1: by the way, I was shocked at this guy even
Speaker 1: allowed Italians to be included in white people because normally
Speaker 1: they don't and rightfully so they're not right to include
Speaker 1: Italians as white people. But anyway, skip that for now.
Speaker 1: Russians are not white people. Russians are Russians, their culture
Speaker 1: is Russian, their holds it. They are not unified with
Speaker 1: the white people concept. And that's the ugly truth that
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys don't want to recognize Russians
Speaker 1: are not white people. They're just not okay, And they'll
Speaker 1: tell you that if you ask them. But if you
Speaker 1: want to include them there and just think that, you know,
Speaker 1: they're part of our alliance because they're part of the
Speaker 1: white people alliance. They're part of the you know, they
Speaker 1: like Marjorie Taylor Green was saying, well, they don't attack Christians. Well,
Speaker 1: they don't attack Russian Orthodox Christians, but I gotta.
Speaker 7: Say that a lot of they don't attack Christians is absurd.
Speaker 7: Rights are full of of people Christians, Jews, Muslims, anyone
Speaker 7: that speaks ill well, just points out something they disagree with.
Speaker 7: Going clearly, Russia has no freedom of the press.
Speaker 1: Well right, and you don't expect them to because guess what,
Speaker 1: that's one of those unique things to us here. See,
Speaker 1: that's the weird thing I found with JD. Vance and
Speaker 1: his whole I believe we don't have free speech in
Speaker 1: right or am I wrong? Well?
Speaker 15: Yeah, uh.
Speaker 7: The thing the thing about russ is I also wanted
Speaker 7: to say, what was I going to say? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: they don't want to be part of the west of
Speaker 7: what used to be no Christen dumb really, but h
Speaker 7: J jay O, Well, I'm not even going to go
Speaker 7: that far back. What Western what we've come to know
Speaker 7: is Western civilization, which we then took to America and
Speaker 7: have made our own American western right civilization not exactly
Speaker 7: the same as old EU Upper Britain right. And then
Speaker 7: you got New Europe, and then you got it's very
Speaker 7: complicated Alan Man.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm not.
Speaker 7: Even saying that that Trump in Dvance. I think there again,
Speaker 7: Celinsky's from a different world. Yes, he thought it would
Speaker 7: be perfectly fine to continue to litigate these things. Well,
Speaker 7: I'm still not whereas Vance and these guys are used to. Look,
Speaker 7: we're having a press comforts. Now's not the time for this.
Speaker 7: And they flipped out on him. I think again that
Speaker 7: was what a culture thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, because Zelensky's going, well, you're asking me questions,
Speaker 1: do you want me to answer them? And the answer
Speaker 1: to that really is no, they don't. This is not
Speaker 1: meant for you to answer questions. This is meant for
Speaker 1: you to put on a display like the guy from
Speaker 1: England did when he came out and said, look, I've
Speaker 1: got this great visit from the King that we're so
Speaker 1: honored to even talk to you, mister Trump. That's what
Speaker 1: he wants during that little sitdown, and that's what it's
Speaker 1: being presented for. That's what it's being staged for, is
Speaker 1: for you to go out in front of the press
Speaker 1: and do a we're so honored to meet with you. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, instead of your majesty, because you know, our
Speaker 1: president is not your majesty, But basically that's what he wants,
Speaker 1: Your majesty, Okay, please, we are so grateful to be
Speaker 1: in your presence. This is what Trump wants during that
Speaker 1: part of the discussion. This is not meant to discuss
Speaker 1: the realities of well, you know, you want me to
Speaker 1: sign a treaty with a guy who doesn't stick by
Speaker 1: his agreements. That's not the time. That's not what he
Speaker 1: was there for. So, you know, was it the right
Speaker 1: way to handle it? I don't know. But back to
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But the only reason why I mentioned
Speaker 1: Vance is because Vance has this crazy idea that in Europe,
Speaker 1: why don't they have freedom of the press or freedom
Speaker 1: of speech. And it's like, because it's Europe, dude, you're
Speaker 1: not in See, Europe didn't adopt all of America's crap,
Speaker 1: regardless of what people think, they didn't. And that's the
Speaker 1: beside the.
Speaker 7: Fact I'd like just to point out that the United
Speaker 7: States of America is the only republic or nation or
Speaker 7: anything country state on the planet Earth that has a
Speaker 7: bill of rights. And that's not by accident. The whole
Speaker 7: reason why there wasn't even a been a constitution unless
Speaker 7: there was an agreement beforehand for the bill of rights.
Speaker 7: This is all in the federalist and anti federalist papers
Speaker 7: and the letters. It was just so critical to most
Speaker 7: of them. A lot of them were silly enough to
Speaker 7: think that there some of the states at that time
Speaker 7: had bill of the rights. And of course the founding
Speaker 7: fathers thought the states would have more power than the
Speaker 7: national government, because that's the way it is designed. I'm
Speaker 7: sorry I cut someone off. I keep hearing BP trying
Speaker 7: to say something.
Speaker 1: It's all right. I don't know if BP, is there
Speaker 1: something you want to drop in my friend?
Speaker 12: Oh no, I'm just sitting here listening. I don't know
Speaker 12: what he's hearing. But I agree with I agree with Jimmy,
Speaker 12: and I don't know that it's so much.
Speaker 11: Of a cultural thing.
Speaker 12: But back during the Cold War, you know, and then
Speaker 12: everything fell to pieces, the wall came down, Germany reunited.
Speaker 12: A lot of changes in all of these satellite countries
Speaker 12: from the old Soviet Russia.
Speaker 11: I don't think. And we had this discussion.
Speaker 12: A couple of years ago talking about the government of Russia,
Speaker 12: and I made the comment that there was still a
Speaker 12: lot of holdover from the communist era, and some people
Speaker 12: disagreed with me.
Speaker 11: But I think what you're seeing is.
Speaker 12: Nothing more than communism light, which is going on over
Speaker 12: there now. And yeah, during the age group that we
Speaker 12: were brought up, and with what went on after the
Speaker 12: Second World War, you know, we saw what Soviet communism
Speaker 12: was like.
Speaker 11: Well, I don't think a whole lot has changed over there.
Speaker 12: Their economy has changed, but the government itself and the
Speaker 12: lockdown that they keep on people. I mean, be a
Speaker 12: gay person in Moscow right now and see how easy
Speaker 12: it is for you.
Speaker 11: Things like that going on. It's just amazing.
Speaker 12: And this whole Ukraine thing with Russia, it's like you
Speaker 12: have to pick a side, and you can't.
Speaker 11: Pick Russia's side because then you're a stood for Putin.
Speaker 12: But if you look at the history of the area
Speaker 12: over there, a third of Ukraine considers itself Russian and
Speaker 12: a good majority of those people are by blood Russian.
Speaker 12: So there's a lot more involved than just Ukraine being invaded.
Speaker 12: You know, when Russia took over Crimea, it's only because
Speaker 12: they gave Crimemeia to Ukraine years back, because that was
Speaker 12: the closest satellite of Theirs that they trusted to take
Speaker 12: care of Crimea. And now that they've got independence, Russia decides, okay,
Speaker 12: we're going to go in there and take it back. Now,
Speaker 12: we're going to look at the Donbass region, We're going
Speaker 12: to go and take part of that back because those
Speaker 12: people voted to become part of Russia.
Speaker 11: It's people forget the.
Speaker 12: History behind what's going on now and they automatically want
Speaker 12: to say, well, Trump is for Putin because he decided this,
Speaker 12: and Zelenski is you know, he's been given all this money.
Speaker 12: He can't account for it. Ukraine has been one of
Speaker 12: the most corrupt places since Russia was since Soviet Russia
Speaker 12: controlled them, and you're not going to get rid of
Speaker 12: that corruption, and you're not going to solve any of
Speaker 12: the problems over there until you get rid of part
Speaker 12: of the corruption. And I don't know that you can
Speaker 12: get rid of it, because it's so ingrained in what
Speaker 12: you call the culture, it's going to be hard to do.
Speaker 11: But well, I disagress my two cents.
Speaker 1: I disagree with a huge amount of the assessment when
Speaker 1: it comes to crimea all that, But I don't want
Speaker 1: to even litigate it because I'd rather turn to something else,
Speaker 1: which is Belarus. Here's the nation which is ostensibly was
Speaker 1: part of the Soviet Union, is now its own thing.
Speaker 1: It's got its own dictator. Right. They certainly fall right
Speaker 1: in line with whatever Putin wants, though, and they do
Speaker 1: participate and have participated in this circumstance with Ukraine on
Speaker 1: Putin's side, of.
Speaker 11: Course, But that's where the money's coming from.
Speaker 1: Well, of course you're gonna take care the people that
Speaker 1: are paying you and that are allowing you to stay
Speaker 1: in power. Look, the only reason why that guy has
Speaker 1: control of his country is because Putin has allowed it.
Speaker 1: And you know, that's the bottom line on it. And
Speaker 1: I'm not making a moral judgment here, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that's the reality of it.
Speaker 13: And you can look at all of the countries from
Speaker 13: Belarus on up to the North Sea, Lithouaye, lad v
Speaker 13: and all those I mean, they're having to walk that
Speaker 13: line between what we used to be what we're trying
Speaker 13: to be now. And it would be nothing for Putin
Speaker 13: to go in and take over what three or four
Speaker 13: countries boom, Domino's that quick.
Speaker 11: Well, And I have a feelings just what Poland's worried about.
Speaker 1: Right, And I have a feeling we're gonna see exactly that,
Speaker 1: regardless of whatever agreement is signed regard because if you
Speaker 1: mean to tell me that you think for a second
Speaker 1: that Putin is honoring any of his agreements when it
Speaker 1: comes to it, Yeah, I don't worry. I won't invade this, right.
Speaker 1: I think Zolenski had a point there that you know,
Speaker 1: because Putin gives me an assurance, I don't have an assurance.
Speaker 1: He was just trying to litigate it, as Jimmy James said,
Speaker 1: at the wrong time.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, he picked a wrong time to pull what
Speaker 11: he pulled.
Speaker 12: But he had just met with some Democrats too before
Speaker 12: that meeting took place, and got some instructions from them
Speaker 12: which blew up in their face. So yeah, but you know,
Speaker 12: everybody's got their finger in the pie. Yeah, And until
Speaker 12: you can get some of the fingers out of the pie.
Speaker 12: You're not going to be able to solve the problem
Speaker 12: with the pie.
Speaker 1: And reality's reality. The Democrats have no power right now,
Speaker 1: so you don't need to be listening to the guy
Speaker 1: who doesn't control the money because he's cut off everything
Speaker 1: from him and everything else. Now, you know, and told
Speaker 1: Britain not to share the intelligence this and that. There's
Speaker 1: a whole lot going on here, a whole lot at play,
Speaker 1: and I don't see it turning out good for people
Speaker 1: who are interested in Ukraine maintaining its independence here.
Speaker 12: I really, Poland has just called up all all males
Speaker 12: of a certain age to train for military. So are
Speaker 12: we looking at the doorstep of World War three?
Speaker 1: Well, I believe we are, and I think that's the
Speaker 1: only intelligent thing for Poland to be doing right now.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I am surprised we're not hearing about
Speaker 1: more countries who are in that vicinity quickly trying to
Speaker 1: build up any military they can, all right, And why
Speaker 1: it is that NATO is not mping things up is
Speaker 1: another mystery to me, because you know, Trump is basically saying, uh,
Speaker 1: he's gonna check the bills and see if people paid
Speaker 1: their fair share before we defend anybody, if anybody calls
Speaker 1: the US. So that's something that he said.
Speaker 11: Okay, do you think we do you think that NATO
Speaker 11: is still relevant?
Speaker 1: Well, obviously, look at look at the members of that
Speaker 1: are look at the members of NATO that are also
Speaker 1: members of the EU.
Speaker 11: I mean, do you really think NATO is a working organization?
Speaker 1: Well, it should be relevant in that they all have
Speaker 1: treaties that say, if you're called upon to defend a
Speaker 1: fellow NATO nation, you're supposed to go do it.
Speaker 11: So yeah, but we know what treaties are worth nowadays.
Speaker 1: Well, but that's the thing.
Speaker 11: If that's theokes, if that's.
Speaker 1: The point we're at, look, I know about that, but
Speaker 1: that's again that's the US, and it's treaty history. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Everybody kind of has different ways of dealing
Speaker 1: with things, and some people honor their agreement and some
Speaker 1: people don't, regardless of whether they're good for them or not.
Speaker 12: But I honestly think the EU is it is at
Speaker 12: waterheads with NATO. If you if you go by the
Speaker 12: EU and their standards, NATO shouldn't exist. I mean they're
Speaker 12: like they're almost like opposite sides of things. You know,
Speaker 12: NATO is supposed to take care of the threat of Russia,
Speaker 12: but we also said NATO won't be on your order.
Speaker 11: Well, and look what Ukraine was talking about wanted to do.
Speaker 11: They wanted to join the EU and NATO.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's at one point. Historically though, we could
Speaker 1: go all the way back to the American Revolution and
Speaker 1: the French basically bankrupting themselves in order to you know,
Speaker 1: follow through with their agreement with us. But you know, again,
Speaker 1: we're not in that world anymore. We are in a
Speaker 1: completely different dynamic. So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a break, and I put Jimmy on hold,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let us take a little bit of
Speaker 1: a break here as we have about another hour left
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Speaker 2: It wasn't decided in a particularly volatile meeting on Friday.
Speaker 1: You got to give credit where.
Speaker 2: Credit is due to MAGA architect Steve Bannon. They've been
Speaker 2: working on taking out the EU for a while now.
Speaker 1: It's a global revolt.
Speaker 6: It's a zeikest.
Speaker 1: We're on the right side of history and the.
Speaker 16: Beating heart of the globalist project who is in Brussels.
Speaker 16: By drive the stake through the vampire, the whole thing
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Speaker 14: We'll call it the movement or the.
Speaker 11: Cause or something like that.
Speaker 1: And that's literally when we take over the EU.
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Speaker 2: But here we are the end result of a scripted
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Speaker 2: the lore of a strong man partnership that carves up
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Speaker 1: one six. Uh, but we'll definitely get Jimmy back on
Speaker 1: for sure. And you if you want to join us,
Speaker 1: if you're hearing us live, what is it a little
Speaker 1: bit after nine pm Eastern? On the uh? What is
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Speaker 1: minutes after nine pm Eastern, you're here in his live
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Speaker 1: A Jimmy and whoever else calls.
Speaker 12: In, Well, no, but I didn't want to make a
Speaker 12: quick mention. You know, I apologize for not being here
Speaker 12: last Friday. I've been involved in some repairs on the
Speaker 12: infrastructure up the mountains where North Carolina got hit pretty
Speaker 12: hard by a hurricane five months ago. But I just
Speaker 12: wanted to point out to people that, you know, there's
Speaker 12: a lot of agencies out there that are still helping
Speaker 12: these folks.
Speaker 11: They're not really getting a lot of help from the
Speaker 11: government right now.
Speaker 12: The state just enacted i think their fourth emergency spending deal,
Speaker 12: which conveniently also includes money for hurricanes that happened six
Speaker 12: years ago. Yeah, they're so slow, you know, getting around
Speaker 12: to get things done. But there's organizations out there like
Speaker 12: Salvation Army and Samaritans Purse and what was it, the
Speaker 12: Cage of Navy, and you know, these groups have been
Speaker 12: out there for months helping people try to get some
Speaker 12: semblance of normal life back.
Speaker 11: So if you can take.
Speaker 12: A chance, you know, see what you can do to
Speaker 12: make donations and that to help him out, because it
Speaker 12: definitely is going to a good cost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. Actually,
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about a couple of
Speaker 1: things in the Carolinas this week, one of them being
Speaker 1: that I am getting reports, although I'm not seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of it in the news, that Indeed, some of
Speaker 1: these government freezes and things are interrupting some help for
Speaker 1: people that are out there, which is strange because a
Speaker 1: lot of the money is, to my understanding, was allocated
Speaker 1: long before. And it's just like, okay, but now no
Speaker 1: checks for stuff that was already approved, signed off on
Speaker 1: by previous Congress people that are no longer in office.
Speaker 1: You know, stuff that Trump might have signed off on
Speaker 1: when he was in office the first time, stuff that
Speaker 1: Biden might have signed off on, Stuff that even Obama
Speaker 1: might have signed off on. Just stopping and I was
Speaker 1: wondering about that. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 12: Well, let's just say that the past administration five months
Speaker 12: ago when this happened, was very slow to respond, and
Speaker 12: there wasn't a lot of money cut loose. I mean, basically,
Speaker 12: they were going to people that were homeless, that watched
Speaker 12: everything they have go flying down the river. Here's a
Speaker 12: seven hundred and fifty dollars check. Okay, that's great. Where
Speaker 12: do I go to cash it? There's no banks open.
Speaker 11: Stupid.
Speaker 12: The federal government has been very very slow in their
Speaker 12: response to western North Carolina, and I think some of
Speaker 12: it was politically motivated because we were right there a
Speaker 12: month before election, but even still, I don't know how
Speaker 12: much is being held up the state. The state has
Speaker 12: had four allocations now and I forget the grand total
Speaker 12: in millions of how much they've put towards relief. The
Speaker 12: biggest thing has been trying to get the roads rebuilt.
Speaker 12: They just opened a one lane section each way between
Speaker 12: North Carolina and Tennessee. So I forty has now been repaired.
Speaker 11: You can get through.
Speaker 12: Granted it's two lanes of traffic until they get the
Speaker 12: rest of the repairs done, but it's taken them five
Speaker 12: months to be able to do that. I mean, the
Speaker 12: damage was really really devastating. People say, you know, it
Speaker 12: was rough, and the state is really footing the bill
Speaker 12: for that. And the way all these hurricanes work, they
Speaker 12: go out and spend a lot of money. FEMA says, Okay,
Speaker 12: we're going to appropriate this much, or the government says
Speaker 12: we're going to appropriate this much for disaster relief.
Speaker 11: Blah blah, blah blah blah.
Speaker 12: Nine times out of ten, the state goes out there
Speaker 12: and does what it has to do, and it may
Speaker 12: take two to three years before the bills were ever
Speaker 12: paid by the federal government. That was one problem that
Speaker 12: the state had back when dot almost went broke in
Speaker 12: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 11: Well they actually did go broke.
Speaker 12: They were still waiting on settlements from hurricanes two and
Speaker 12: three years before that. The government kept saying, well, you
Speaker 12: don't have this paperwork right, and this needs to be
Speaker 12: accounted for, and you know it's just government red tape.
Speaker 12: So usually it's always an IOU when it comes to
Speaker 12: these things, no matter the state, no matter the disaster,
Speaker 12: it's usually two or three years down a road before
Speaker 12: things even get close to being paid for.
Speaker 11: So they've had that problem.
Speaker 12: I don't know how much is being held back now
Speaker 12: because of what's going on in Washington and all the
Speaker 12: chaos up there, but money is getting through.
Speaker 11: Things are being done.
Speaker 12: I've got an app on my iPad for work that
Speaker 12: shows all of the spots that have to be repaired,
Speaker 12: and between four counties it looks like North Carolina's got
Speaker 12: the measles.
Speaker 11: There's so much damage being that's been done.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So speaking of apps real quickly though, that problem
Speaker 1: you brought up about where we cash a check. Here's
Speaker 1: the weird thing. They had apps available for these guys
Speaker 1: to be able to transfer checks through a phone app,
Speaker 1: and they shut those down too.
Speaker 11: So well, not only that you don't have any phone service.
Speaker 1: Well okay, and that was the next point, is that
Speaker 1: where you get phone service?
Speaker 12: And seriously, though, even five months later, when I go
Speaker 12: to work in the morning, I use my phone and
Speaker 12: as a hotspot to be able to get data for
Speaker 12: me to use during the day because I won't be
Speaker 12: able to make a connection for the next ten hours
Speaker 12: until I get back in a certain area. So you
Speaker 12: know these are all In fact, I was so close
Speaker 12: to Tennessee the other day on a dead end road
Speaker 12: I believe I could have thrown a rock and cross
Speaker 12: the state line.
Speaker 11: Well, look, that's how far out the woods we are.
Speaker 1: Last thing in the Carolina is I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about. Maybe you could talk to Jimmy James about
Speaker 1: all this stuff a little more. Is this guy who's
Speaker 1: supposed to be getting executed by firing squad.
Speaker 11: Right in South Carolina.
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Yeah, I was going to say. That's why
Speaker 1: I said the Carolinas. I do think of them as
Speaker 1: you know, two closely related states, not just by noting division.
Speaker 12: I think there was some back to when they were
Speaker 12: given land grants at all, When when the colonies were
Speaker 12: getting started. I think there were a couple of families
Speaker 12: that didn't get along or something, and that's why they
Speaker 12: ended up parting ways.
Speaker 1: My understanding of it was that the founding of the colonies,
Speaker 1: there were two different financial See each one of these
Speaker 1: colonies was founded as a financial investment, as a venture
Speaker 1: investment of the time, believe it or not, if you
Speaker 1: look back at their papers and how they were founded,
Speaker 1: and I think there were two different interests involved here,
Speaker 1: so they split it between North and South. Now, I
Speaker 1: still to this day can't explain why they divided the
Speaker 1: Dakota territory into two things. But there it is. We
Speaker 1: have a South and a North Dakota for no apparent
Speaker 1: reason in my mind. But you know, maybe somebody can
Speaker 1: explain that to me, somebody from South or North Dakota,
Speaker 1: which we don't get too many listeners from, by the way,
Speaker 1: not too many. We get very few listeners from there
Speaker 1: Montana and Idaho. I have an idea as to why
Speaker 1: that is, but I'm not sure, you know, so maybe
Speaker 1: somebody someday can explain that to me.
Speaker 11: I think North and South of South Dakota were more.
Speaker 12: I think it was more of a tribal thing out
Speaker 12: there and the recognition of certain areas, unlike the Carolinas,
Speaker 12: where it was the group in the north and the
Speaker 12: group in the south just couldn't get along with each other,
Speaker 12: so they said, fine, let's draw on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was financial disagreement in the Carolinas, to my understanding,
Speaker 1: but Dakota's I don't know why they were divided. I
Speaker 1: can't find a paperwork trail to explain it. But I
Speaker 1: was curious about your thoughts on this guy getting executed
Speaker 1: by firing squad, which apparently hasn't been done in seventeen
Speaker 1: years or something they said. But I was confused because
Speaker 1: the last time I remember it, it was like the first
Speaker 1: guy that got it done. Remember it was famously what
Speaker 1: was his name, Gary something or other who insisted in Gilmore, Gilmore,
Speaker 1: that's it, who insisted on being put to death by
Speaker 1: firing squad, And then a lot of places backed off
Speaker 1: of that, like no longer allowing people to choose.
Speaker 11: That was in Utah Gilmore, that was that was part
Speaker 11: of their law. In the book.
Speaker 12: You could either, I think you can either go to
Speaker 12: the electric chair or maybe they had a gas chamber
Speaker 12: back then, or firing squad, and he picked firing squad
Speaker 12: now in South Carolina. This guy was worried about the
Speaker 12: chemical process that they used normally to you know, give
Speaker 12: somebody the death penalty. And he's read a bunch of
Speaker 12: stories how guys you know, struggled.
Speaker 11: It was like torture. Blah blah blah blah blah. He
Speaker 11: picked firing.
Speaker 12: Squad now interestingly out in Idaho, where the was it?
Speaker 12: The Coldberger guy is going to trial for killing the
Speaker 12: four college students there in Moscow.
Speaker 11: Idaho, Okay.
Speaker 12: He was actually filed emotion in the court, stating that
Speaker 12: it was cruel and unusual punishment of him having to
Speaker 12: go through this trial not knowing what form of death
Speaker 12: penalty he would be up for. So in a response
Speaker 12: to the filing, the Attorney.
Speaker 11: General said, well, we can solve that problem. Just pick
Speaker 11: one if.
Speaker 12: It's causing you so much anxiety, because you don't know
Speaker 12: how you're going to die. If you get the death penalty,
Speaker 12: you get picked one, right, So, I mean that's the
Speaker 12: history on that, I.
Speaker 11: You know, firing squad. Hey, if it was good enough
Speaker 11: for Private Eddie Slovak, I guess it's good enough for anybody.
Speaker 12: You know, he was the only guy executed for desertion
Speaker 12: in World War Two on an American soldier, and actually
Speaker 12: it was a screw up that caused him to become
Speaker 12: separated from his unit.
Speaker 11: It's cry and shame, but I don't know. It's to me,
Speaker 11: it's cheaper than using the that you know here.
Speaker 12: It was a few years ago that people went to
Speaker 12: court filing stop orders or requesting stop orders from the
Speaker 12: court on the purchase of the chemicals and things that
Speaker 12: they use.
Speaker 1: They weren't getting stuff. The thing is, they substituted for
Speaker 1: crappy stuff and it wasn't going to be efficient, and
Speaker 1: some of these guys did struggle for a long time.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but that was because of the protest by people
Speaker 12: that were complaining to the chemical companies that provided the
Speaker 12: chemicals for execution and them having to deal with the
Speaker 12: political ramifications of that.
Speaker 11: So it gets tied up in the court. So they
Speaker 11: switch ways.
Speaker 12: Now I heard of one state that switched to using nitrogen.
Speaker 11: I think it is as a means, it's.
Speaker 12: Cheap, it's effective, and they don't go through the problems
Speaker 12: that they do with the combination of the drugs that
Speaker 12: stop your heart and stop your breathing.
Speaker 1: It's funny because my understanding was that since it wasn't
Speaker 1: made in America, you had problems with other countries that
Speaker 1: had banned the death penalty not wanting to allow their
Speaker 1: company he used to produce the precursors to send to
Speaker 1: the United States. That's what I understood. But you know, look,
Speaker 1: there's always politics involved. So look, we got a couple
Speaker 1: of callers, and I got Jimmy James on the line first,
Speaker 1: but we also have looks like Danny from California. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring on Jimmy and see because he was
Speaker 1: waiting first, and see if he wants to pass over
Speaker 1: to Danny or if he's got something he wants to
Speaker 1: add in. And there we go. Jimmy, I got Danny waiting.
Speaker 1: If you don't have an idea where you want to
Speaker 1: go next, but if you want to drop something on
Speaker 1: the table, it's your Turnstill, I.
Speaker 7: Say, bring Danny in and let's talk to him.
Speaker 1: Cool, all right, I'll put you back on hold, just temporarily,
Speaker 1: and we'll get Danny on the line. Danny, how you doing, man.
Speaker 15: I'm doing just fine. Uh, just running around with grand
Speaker 15: kids at soccer and what the conversation? Interesting topic, kind
Speaker 15: of takeaway from that John Stewart playing the Russians what
Speaker 15: they're thinking, And then I'm also thinking them all, what
Speaker 15: was it brained with us being born into the Cold
Speaker 15: War and the fall of the Russian Empire? And maybe
Speaker 15: there's going to be peace. But I think a lot
Speaker 15: of this stuff is ingrained on on all sides. I mean,
Speaker 15: there's just plenty of blame on all sides, if that
Speaker 15: makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no doubt that there is, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: preconceived notions that are going to cause problems here. And
Speaker 1: I don't know that this new direction is advisable or not,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people think that we're going in
Speaker 1: a very dangerous direction and we may very soon be
Speaker 1: confronted with some angry people that are going to feel
Speaker 1: as though they don't have an ally anymore. That's a possibility,
Speaker 1: you know, right.
Speaker 15: So and then also you were talking about how that
Speaker 15: kind of like the tech oligarchy you out, you're talking
Speaker 15: about this data, right, I think that's just been kind
Speaker 15: of like coming from a digital world world like in
Speaker 15: the twentieth century, we were I mean an analytical work,
Speaker 15: I mean analog world. In the twentieth century, we had
Speaker 15: kind of more kind of everybody near the role as
Speaker 15: for this state craft went. But now in the digital world,
Speaker 15: but you're talking about data information. You know, think of
Speaker 15: the fall of the Western Empire. I mean, but pretty
Speaker 15: much got Yelson and they basically went from the you know,
Speaker 15: the party, the Communist party run and everything. They just
Speaker 15: turned into a bunch of all of ours, you know,
Speaker 15: gobbled of up. And then in this country with the
Speaker 15: data where the rich you hit and Richard a lot
Speaker 15: of olive urts. I mean, look at the you know,
Speaker 15: just look in this administration with the tech crowd. You know,
Speaker 15: it was a lot of the things that like Aaron
Speaker 15: was talking about this kind of kind of dark and
Speaker 15: light and Peter two and put the Curtis Jarvin. I mean,
Speaker 15: it's kind of a I don't know if it's like
Speaker 15: a conspiracy like plan, but I just think it's kind
Speaker 15: of what we call like a natural monopoly of power.
Speaker 11: That makes any sense, well it does to me.
Speaker 1: And that's what the amazing thing is here, is that
Speaker 1: what was making people nervous though a few years ago,
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, a lot of the pro Trump crowd
Speaker 1: that is the most vocal, that is the you know
Speaker 1: where the patriots where the people that are standing and
Speaker 1: all those guys transition from being you know, not not
Speaker 1: just nervous about, but really really feeling as though we
Speaker 1: can't allow the technocracy to take over. You know, we'd
Speaker 1: much rather deal with people than the technocracy. We don't
Speaker 1: want computers running the world. We don't want, you know.
Speaker 1: And they went from that to being all on board
Speaker 1: with it because they're on Team Trump. And that's a
Speaker 1: weird transition. And I'm not even saying that I was
Speaker 1: on either side of that, except that I was very skeptical.
Speaker 1: I'm more of these, you know, I don't trust that
Speaker 1: we're not going to have Skynet takeover, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't believe that at some point the
Speaker 1: algorithm might decide that people are actually the problem, you know,
Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to find solutions for us, they
Speaker 1: decide that we're the problem instead of finding a solution
Speaker 1: for us, which we task them with. You know, if
Speaker 1: you get a conscious AI that decides, you know, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't have any wars if there wasn't any people. That
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a big jump, you know, in my mind,
Speaker 1: and I know it's the you know, nineteen eighties fear
Speaker 1: of the rise of technology, and there's always a luddite
Speaker 1: sentiment that runs through the more mature generations every time. Right,
Speaker 1: they were afraid that once we had, you know, horseless carriages,
Speaker 1: we'd be able to travel too far and we'd become
Speaker 1: disconnected from so many different and they were right, but
Speaker 1: then again, it wasn't the disaster they foresaw. And some
Speaker 1: people might say, look, you got to calm down, grandpa.
Speaker 1: The technology's coming and either you're going to be on
Speaker 1: board with it or you're going to be left behind
Speaker 1: by it. And besides, by the time you are left
Speaker 1: behind by it, you'll be dead anyway, so don't worry
Speaker 1: about it, you know. But it's weird shift to see
Speaker 1: people go from we don't trust this to now we
Speaker 1: absolutely trust it. Is the observation I keep trying to
Speaker 1: get out and everybody scratching their head at me, where
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, well, what does this mean? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, that's my question to you.
Speaker 1: What does this mean? You know? And I think you
Speaker 1: and I might be looking at it the same.
Speaker 15: Way, but go ahead, no, no, Yeah, that's an interesting
Speaker 15: point because I've stayed it on the show before you know,
Speaker 15: I'm no supple, I know, for exactly the Republican Party.
Speaker 15: I thought that the you know, the oil industry, you know,
Speaker 15: you know, dictated a lot of the policy and you know,
Speaker 15: and then kind of protecting the policy and the agenda.
Speaker 15: And I also stated the tech industry, which is big
Speaker 15: out here in California, they pretty much had had had
Speaker 15: really infused a lot of power in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 15: But I was kind of really upset with it. You know,
Speaker 15: we have a propositions here in California and it had
Speaker 15: to do the status worker status, and I'm kind of like,
Speaker 15: you know, we're all workers, know if that makes any
Speaker 15: sense to be protected and kind of you know, some equality.
Speaker 15: And the tech industry poured a huge amount of money,
Speaker 15: like about one hundred and twenty dollars dollars in a
Speaker 15: proposition to kind of get this kind of like a
Speaker 15: contract or worker status for a lot of their gig
Speaker 15: works with the tech industry. And I think that's when
Speaker 15: I started seeing the ship of them pouring their their
Speaker 15: money and power into the Democrat Party. And now they've
Speaker 15: kind of poured it into the Repork It comes where
Speaker 15: they kind of get the Republicans taken all this money
Speaker 15: and influence, and then the kay King Jeffries, the head
Speaker 15: of the DNC, he's got hat in hand and he's
Speaker 15: you know, no self reflection. He's going over there like, hey,
Speaker 15: it's still like it, you'll give us some money. I mean,
Speaker 15: it's kind of like they're taking over.
Speaker 1: Well, but that's the weird thing here. This is the
Speaker 1: thing that you and I are having trouble understanding in
Speaker 1: a way. But I'm I feel as though I called
Speaker 1: this a long time ago, and everybody said I was crazy,
Speaker 1: because everybody said, look, the tech industry is in the
Speaker 1: pocket of the Democrats and all like that, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I think guy's got that backwards. I think the Democrats
Speaker 1: are in the pocket of the tech industry and all
Speaker 1: they got to do is reach out to the Republicans
Speaker 1: and buy them next. And everybody said, no, they won't
Speaker 1: do that, and they did, and they have done it openly.
Speaker 1: They basically bought into both parts. And listen, how do
Speaker 1: you win a war? How do you guarantee that you
Speaker 1: can in a war circumstance where you're not directly one
Speaker 1: of the fighters fund both sides that way, whoever wins
Speaker 1: or loses. You got the winner on your side, So
Speaker 1: what you funded the loser to big deal. If you
Speaker 1: have the kind of pockets that the tech industry has,
Speaker 1: and you have the kind of resources that you can
Speaker 1: lend to both sides, you lend it to both sides,
Speaker 1: and no matter who comes out on top, allegedly you're
Speaker 1: with the winner, aren't you. I mean, it's simple that
Speaker 1: equation to me. But it seems like nobody seemed to
Speaker 1: follow this, and everybody's still telling me that, you know,
Speaker 1: which is funny because how do you tell me that
Speaker 1: the Republicans are not fully engaged with big tech at
Speaker 1: this point when every big tech thing in the world
Speaker 1: has either covertly or overtly, whether it's Elon Musk giving
Speaker 1: you know, hundreds of millions to Trump or whatever, they
Speaker 1: bought both sides. So and do you blame them? I don't.
Speaker 1: It's the only that guarantees a win, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you fund both sides, you guarantee to win. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of how big is your bet.
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't matter what you lose on your
Speaker 1: losing side, then why not bet a million dollars on
Speaker 1: each fighter? You know what I mean. If you've got
Speaker 1: two guys in a boxing ring, bet a million dollars
Speaker 1: on each one and you're gonna come out ahead. If
Speaker 1: you can afford to lay out a million dollars on
Speaker 1: each one and don't care about the million you lost,
Speaker 1: you win. On the other side. It's all good. And
Speaker 1: that's what they've done. And I don't know why people
Speaker 1: don't understand that it's And by the way, there is
Speaker 1: no ideology to this technocracy that lands anywhere near the
Speaker 1: left or the right. It's not about left or right.
Speaker 1: It is its own thing and it's buying all sides.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know why that's not obvious everybody.
Speaker 20: But what do you think, Danny, Well, it wasn't as
Speaker 20: obvious like a couple of years ago to me until
Speaker 20: that proposition came up, and it kind of infuriated me
Speaker 20: because it's like, you know, Gavin Newso, and I mean
Speaker 20: he fully endorsed it.
Speaker 15: You're supposed to be, you know, a pro worker, and
Speaker 15: this was kind of to me, it was kind of
Speaker 15: an anti worker. Let's if that makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 15: I could probably break it down a little more detail,
Speaker 15: but at the time, but I mean, they just poured
Speaker 15: a lot of money into it, and we have a
Speaker 15: proposition system that was supposed to kind of can't democracy
Speaker 15: to the voters here and give them some more power.
Speaker 15: But I've come to the conclusion that it's kind of
Speaker 15: a failure of elected representatives because I mean, we start
Speaker 15: voting against our self interests by the money. And so
Speaker 15: I mean there's been like labeling laws so that you know,
Speaker 15: that makes so much sense about you know what you're
Speaker 15: ingesting as far as food, and it's a certain lobby
Speaker 15: pumps en up money and guess what, especially on a
Speaker 15: like an off election, like a midterm where it's maybe
Speaker 15: not a high turnout, pretty much money interest they get
Speaker 15: their way, and I've noticed this matter that they can
Speaker 15: pretty much.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the reality. But that is the reality, Danny.
Speaker 1: And here's here's something I give you for my prognostication. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's Chuck's prognostication. You know that that hated guy, Gavin Newsom,
Speaker 1: who's supposed to be the ultimate leftist and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, around the country, they hate him. They hate
Speaker 1: California because of him. And this guy is about to
Speaker 1: move to the right. He is about to move to
Speaker 1: the right, like a like Bill Clinton style, but for
Speaker 1: the new century, where he's going to go in there
Speaker 1: and they're gonna say, look, he's gone to the right,
Speaker 1: he's gone to the center, and that's what they're gonna
Speaker 1: say about him. And they're gonna promote him. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to promote him as the
Speaker 1: uh you know, as the guy is going to take
Speaker 1: a dive in a presidential election, or what they're gonna
Speaker 1: do with him, but he's obviously going to rise in
Speaker 1: prominence here and they're right now experimenting to see how
Speaker 1: they can sell him to the right. That's what they're
Speaker 1: going to try and do with Gavin Newsom, because look,
Speaker 1: this guy again is one of the most I mean,
Speaker 1: he is absolutely one of the go tos like Chicago
Speaker 1: is when they want to talk about street violence. Gavin
Speaker 1: Newsom is the problem with the left. So if they
Speaker 1: can sell him to the MAGA people, if they can
Speaker 1: sell him even a little bit to the right wing,
Speaker 1: whether it's classic right wing or new or new Wave,
Speaker 1: that's going to be the template. Now I don't think
Speaker 1: he's the guy they're going to try and install in
Speaker 1: a presidency at some point. But they might put him
Speaker 1: out there to lose a race or two, a big one,
Speaker 1: just to just to let him go there. And they'll
Speaker 1: fill his pockets the whole way, by the way, and
Speaker 1: the tech, the technological people, all that tech tech money
Speaker 1: is going to pour into his pocket directly one way
Speaker 1: or not, well, not directly. It'll look indirect, but it'll
Speaker 1: be directly poured into his pocket guaranteed. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's He's delivered for him. But one thing about
Speaker 15: I mean, I am more familiar with it. He is
Speaker 15: as far as let's just put your politics aside when
Speaker 15: it comes to campaigning. He's got some talent. He actually
Speaker 15: has some talent. Yeah, I mean, you know, like like
Speaker 15: Kamala if you get her off the script, you know
Speaker 15: she kinda you know, she's she's not anywhere near the
Speaker 15: talent like Gavin. Gavin news Ca can debate, you can
Speaker 15: form an argument, you can push back, So I mean
Speaker 15: he would be formal, but I mean it would I mean, yeah,
Speaker 15: I can see kind of a Clinton as yer know
Speaker 15: style of governing. And and that's always been probably some
Speaker 15: of my biggest problems with the Democrat Party myself where
Speaker 15: I'm critical of them. A Clinton was hated by the Republicans,
Speaker 15: but boy, he got a lot of Republican legislation, you know,
Speaker 15: you know, paths for him so right, and they want
Speaker 15: somebody maybe they're that center right, you know, maybe just
Speaker 15: a little bit, you know, maybe so he's definitely socially
Speaker 15: on the left, but you know, I'm seeing more his politics.
Speaker 15: You know, economically, it would be center right in a
Speaker 15: lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1: But this week, even though California is supposed to be
Speaker 1: the headquarters for all the wokeism, right this week, what
Speaker 1: did he do? Yeah, he agreed right away. You know what,
Speaker 1: this is common sense with the genders. That's a hell
Speaker 1: of an anti woke sentiment right there to be signaling.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it's just the beginning. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that he's you know, but you want to
Speaker 1: tell me this guy believes in anything. I got to
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't think so. I think he believes
Speaker 1: in the bottom line. You want to talk about the
Speaker 1: art of the deal. That's where this guy's going. So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be surprised if he ends up in
Speaker 1: the tail end of the Trump administration somehow, you know,
Speaker 1: just doing doing something. Yeah, I mean I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna cut he's gonna cut deals, and he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the political animal he is. And we're gonna see what's
Speaker 1: going on there with this guy real soon. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be this odd shift where he says, hey, look, I'm
Speaker 1: just going with common sense. And in some cases he
Speaker 1: will be, but in other cases, you know. And Kamala,
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny you mentioned I thought right away when
Speaker 1: you mentioned her, it's like, Yeah, the problem with Kamala
Speaker 1: is if she was a musician, she might be able
Speaker 1: to play the guitar if you give her some cover tunes,
Speaker 1: but if you got a jam, she's no good to you.
Speaker 1: So you know, and you gotta be able to jam
Speaker 1: if you are a political animal. I mean, you just
Speaker 1: have to. So, and she proved she can't deal with
Speaker 1: anything off script, I mean over and over again, so
Speaker 1: you know, end a story there.
Speaker 15: Yeah, she's a prosecute ship to prepare for a case.
Speaker 15: I mean, just good at that. But like I said, script,
Speaker 15: you know, she just didn't have the talent, you know,
Speaker 15: And that was just that was clear. So I understand
Speaker 15: the lack of fuel there.
Speaker 1: And essentially that's what and essentially, Danny, essentially that's what
Speaker 1: a prosecutor does. Anyway. They write a script and then
Speaker 1: they read that script to the jury, to the judge,
Speaker 1: and they go with that script with very few revisions
Speaker 1: in hand they have, right, this is what they actually do.
Speaker 1: So it's obvious that's what she learned how to do.
Speaker 1: She's not a political animal. And that's why it was
Speaker 1: so bizarre to be set up to lose, you know, like,
Speaker 1: why are you even sticking her in there? It makes
Speaker 1: no sense. I mean, I know Biden was a failure,
Speaker 1: but you know, at least put somebody in there who
Speaker 1: had a shot. But no, no need for that anyway.
Speaker 15: Did Yeah, that's yeah, that was That's the leadership. And
Speaker 15: that's that's been the problems of nineteen eighty five with
Speaker 15: the Democrats. They started the Democratic Leadership Council because so
Speaker 15: much money was pinned into the Republicans. They were getting
Speaker 15: trounced and they went aft, like with Barney Franklin, we
Speaker 15: just were going to take the money. And it's even
Speaker 15: growing more. You ever, you ever read the Jane Mayor
Speaker 15: Stark money.
Speaker 1: My chance, you know, I believe I read either a
Speaker 1: short version of that book, or sample chapters of that book.
Speaker 1: I don't think I read the whole thing, though.
Speaker 15: Yeah, that was that's really interesting, and I had to
Speaker 15: had to, you know, kind of write the fallout of
Speaker 15: the citizens United with the you know, the paths, I mean,
Speaker 15: just the money they could sport into these politicians and
Speaker 15: then it's it's it's it's it's almost like you got
Speaker 15: to take a shower after those Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, if you just take a
Speaker 1: look at the advertising dollar that into the presidential race
Speaker 1: during the last six months, I mean, they spent a
Speaker 1: billion dollars for God's sake, I mean yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and so what does that tell you. It's it's obviously
Speaker 1: worth a billion dollars to spend.
Speaker 15: Okay, easily a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Danny, look you're driving right, Yes, I am,
Speaker 1: all right. So I'm gonna go ahead and put you
Speaker 1: on hold and let Jimmy come back on and anybody
Speaker 1: else who wants to join us. Yeah, good, just just
Speaker 1: for that, and if you want to hang on, cool,
Speaker 1: I'll let you get in a final word or whatever.
Speaker 1: But uh, if not, you know, by all means hang up.
Speaker 1: If it's safer for you to hang up, I'd rather.
Speaker 1: I don't usually like it when people are driving and talking,
Speaker 1: just because I don't want to be responsible for them
Speaker 1: getting into an accident trying to hold a conversation with
Speaker 1: my dumbass. Anyways. Yeah, so, Jimmy, I got you back
Speaker 1: on the line. But bet Pete, anything you want to
Speaker 1: throw in regarding that conversation with Danny before we let
Speaker 1: you me lose, I got him on the line.
Speaker 11: None.
Speaker 12: I don't know. I just I think we ought to
Speaker 12: disband the Democrat Party just at our general principle in
Speaker 12: their historical alongs thro years and creating something new. I
Speaker 12: just I don't have any faith in people to vote Democrat.
Speaker 1: There you go. I mean, so, Jimmy, I know you
Speaker 1: agree with that, but we got about twenty minutes left here,
Speaker 1: so you might have other things you want to talk
Speaker 1: about or mention here. So it's all you man.
Speaker 14: Zoom tight.
Speaker 1: I do you sound like you sound like Jesus Jimmy,
Speaker 1: you sound like I feel that's not good? Come on, man,
Speaker 1: you are right, are you?
Speaker 21: Okay?
Speaker 7: It's a little too hard to coffee.
Speaker 1: I don't know it sounds it's just something that it
Speaker 1: almost it almost sounds all.
Speaker 7: On one second, I have one of them good coughs,
Speaker 7: and I'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do your thing, because that almost sounds like
Speaker 1: bepat when he takes a hit and he didn't get
Speaker 1: the cough all the way out afterwards. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Go chase that thing.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 1: You got to take a drink after you do a rip.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying. It's a good thing to
Speaker 1: lubricate the throat after drying it out if you take
Speaker 1: a good rip, don't you grieve me feet?
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 11: A cheap cigarettes too, will do it sometimes.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes they will. I can't. Oh god,
Speaker 1: oh man.
Speaker 11: I was up in the mountains. I pulled in this
Speaker 11: little country store.
Speaker 12: The cigarettes that I buy a dollar general or usually
Speaker 12: about four fifty seven a pack.
Speaker 11: They had him for three ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 11: Can you say, give you a cart?
Speaker 1: Of course? Oh yeah, No. When I see him on sale,
Speaker 1: I got somewhere, I'm like, how much money do I have? Cuz?
Speaker 14: Really? Man?
Speaker 12: And they had several brands that in most of these,
Speaker 12: you know, And it's funny the places like circle K
Speaker 12: and Speedway they get these deals from the tobacco suppliers
Speaker 12: where you might save two bucks on a pack of
Speaker 12: nine dollars new ports. You know, right, these you know
Speaker 12: they're they're cheap of cigarettes? Are five bucks a pack? Well,
Speaker 12: they had four or five different brands in there that
Speaker 12: were around anywhere from three sixty nine to three ninety
Speaker 12: nine a pack.
Speaker 11: I thought, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: Well that's because again, you know, when you Philip Morris
Speaker 1: comes in and says, look, we'll give you a free rack,
Speaker 1: but you got to display our cigarettes on the top
Speaker 1: and in the most visible place, and we'll give you
Speaker 1: a check every month. And that check is to offset
Speaker 1: the cost of your cigarettes that you're ordering. Right.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I saw a pack of wall Bers for eleven dollars.
Speaker 11: I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, depending on where you are, the taxes
Speaker 1: really kill you because the state taxes, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're up to about fifteen in my old home state.
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to go and visit New Jersey sometime,
Speaker 1: but I got to consider all the costs involved, the
Speaker 1: higher cost of the food, the higher cost of cigarettes
Speaker 1: on their everything, right, and I got to estimate a
Speaker 1: pack of Marlboroughs at like fifteen bucks. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: where that's at in Jersey, for Christ's sake.
Speaker 11: It's crazy. When I started, they were thirty five cent
Speaker 11: of pack.
Speaker 1: Well again, you're a little older than me, so I
Speaker 1: remember cigarettes when I started, ninety cents or a dollar. Okay,
Speaker 1: that that's around where they were. And they stayed like
Speaker 1: that a long time, you know, stayed between a dollar
Speaker 1: and two your name brand, the most expensive cigarettes two bucks,
Speaker 1: you know, even cigarette machines. I remember at one point
Speaker 1: the cigarette machine ran a little cheaper. They were like
Speaker 1: a buck and a quarter in most stores. And you
Speaker 1: could still find a cigarette machine at a dollar here
Speaker 1: and there, right, and I loved it. Which, by the way,
Speaker 1: another weird thing. I don't know if I've ever mentioned
Speaker 1: this to you, but in the South, ever since I
Speaker 1: moved to the South, nobody gives out matches.
Speaker 11: Now, no, they went to a bile.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I get that, but even the greedy people,
Speaker 1: and you know up in the Northeast, most times they
Speaker 1: have matches, even if they don't automatically offer them to you.
Speaker 1: In certain neighborhoods, we had to offer them because that
Speaker 1: was how we actually got the cigarette sales over. Somebody
Speaker 1: else a well down here.
Speaker 12: Actually, if you go to a country store, some family
Speaker 12: owned country store, a lot of times you can still
Speaker 12: find matches. But if you go to the uh the
Speaker 12: chain quick Marks, you're gonna no matches.
Speaker 7: They want you to buy line.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Any I stop at the grocery store and I get
Speaker 12: a pack of like ten boxes of uh stick matches
Speaker 12: every time I go to the grocery store when I
Speaker 12: run out, just because your lighter quits on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Look, matches are a good thing to have around.
Speaker 1: My suggestion is you go to Dollar Tree and you
Speaker 1: could still buy a brick of matches in a box,
Speaker 1: like literally a box instead of you know, a little pack.
Speaker 11: And well no, I thought, what I buy is the
Speaker 11: pack of ten box matches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeh yeah, But okay, so you buy the
Speaker 1: little boxes, all right, all right, Well, a lot of
Speaker 1: people when they say box, they mean the little you know,
Speaker 1: the little flip thing. And I always buy the box
Speaker 1: ones at the Dollar Tree bucking a quarter and it's
Speaker 1: either ten or twelve in a package, right, and that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all you got, you know, They're packed in plastic
Speaker 1: and done. And I like having those around, you know, Yes,
Speaker 1: especially and you know, we got these candles around this house,
Speaker 1: so I'm always lighting candles and always having to light
Speaker 1: candles and stuff. And they're better to reach into one
Speaker 1: of these jars with a long wooden match, you know,
Speaker 1: as opposed to use the.
Speaker 11: Vainly for the grill. But then again, you know, when
Speaker 11: your liner gainst out, you go grab a box.
Speaker 1: Well, but there it is. And that's the other thing is,
Speaker 1: no matter how many lighters I have, they either get
Speaker 1: lost or you know whatever. And it's just good to
Speaker 1: have matches around. But it used to be the places
Speaker 1: had matches, whether they were you know, blank matches, or
Speaker 1: they were printed matches to find you the story you
Speaker 1: went to or the club you went to or whatever.
Speaker 12: In fact, sorry, when you bought a pack with kickout
Speaker 12: a thing of matches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy, you're back. What were you saying about matches?
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say. Once in the late nineties,
Speaker 7: I stepped at the garbage sailed there and it's okay.
Speaker 7: He had this big box just jam packed full of zippos.
Speaker 7: They had his old company's logo and phone number from
Speaker 7: like the forties. Nice, and it was like five bucks
Speaker 7: for like the box and I ended up getting like
Speaker 7: twenty some odd zippos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. Even if it was a
Speaker 1: Ronson lighter as opposed to a zippo, was still basically
Speaker 1: the same thing. And uh yeah, no, those were great.
Speaker 1: You kidding me? Probably those lighters people are selling those
Speaker 1: on eBay now. It doesn't matter if it was, you know,
Speaker 1: from some oil company that doesn't exist anymore. I mean
Speaker 1: like an oil company where they would go around and
Speaker 1: deliver oil to your house.
Speaker 7: Funny enough, twenty close to thirty years later, I still
Speaker 7: got a half dozen of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know, I even good.
Speaker 12: Everybody in the military always had a zippo because you
Speaker 12: could run them off a mug gas the fuel that
Speaker 12: they put the cheeps in that, right, you can put
Speaker 12: your zippo out and put a little mug gas in
Speaker 12: there and keep all flicking.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why my father had the Ronson lighters in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: you know, the little Ronson lighter with the button on
Speaker 1: it where it had a little reservoir and you push
Speaker 1: the button and it would let some into the top
Speaker 1: part and then it worked. You know, pretty much. You
Speaker 1: could use all the zippo stuff on it. The flints
Speaker 1: and everything, even the wicks, all that suff ronson. It
Speaker 1: was interchangeable. And yeah, he had tu of those over
Speaker 1: there in Vietnam because look, he could walk around with
Speaker 1: that thing for a month and if he kept the
Speaker 1: you know, the fluid in the in the reservoir, he
Speaker 1: didn't have to refill it for a while. You know.
Speaker 11: I worked in the ship yard.
Speaker 12: They required you to have a zippo or something very
Speaker 12: near because of all the acetylene it was around.
Speaker 11: If you were welding these.
Speaker 12: Somebody would put a big wider in their pocket and
Speaker 12: the heat would cause the things to just go off. Oh,
Speaker 12: they would get hot, the top would get loose, the
Speaker 12: valve would open, and all the gas would come out
Speaker 12: at night.
Speaker 11: So they required all us. You're gonna carry.
Speaker 12: Lighter out there with you, It's got to be something
Speaker 12: like a zippo that won't explode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because even though a zippo a leak, a big
Speaker 1: lighter will blow up. Yeah.
Speaker 11: So a difference in a leak and blow it up right, the.
Speaker 1: Leak It just mainly end up like an irritation. If
Speaker 1: you keep it in your pocket, you'll find an irritation
Speaker 1: on your leg at the end. Of the week or whatever.
Speaker 1: But uh, but no, but the blowing up big lighter
Speaker 1: is a bigger problem. So yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1: You know. I brought match books with us to Dallas
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 12: I got a couple of boxes. In fact, I still
Speaker 12: got an empty box. I think I used all the
Speaker 12: matches in it. I refilled it from another of your
Speaker 12: oak Shelly matches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. And I actually had and you
Speaker 1: know what's funny, I still have a few because people
Speaker 1: didn't really want them. I found that really strange. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was given those away and they were like, no,
Speaker 1: that's okay, let me grab something else, you know. So
Speaker 1: even when I was giving them away, they didn't want
Speaker 1: the match boxes. I'm like, you guys are crazy. I
Speaker 1: would grab match boxes from everybody, you know, I would
Speaker 1: if they.
Speaker 12: To collect book matches from all the bars and places
Speaker 12: like that.
Speaker 11: I had a big bowl. It was full of them.
Speaker 1: Well that's see. That's the thing though, is that now
Speaker 1: down South you don't have that anymore because everybody nobody
Speaker 1: really offers matches anymore.
Speaker 11: It was a chief form of advertising at one time.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I and you know what,
Speaker 1: it's actually more expensive to print matches than a lot
Speaker 1: of other things, which surprises the hell out of me, because,
Speaker 1: believe me, I got into the printing costs and tried
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to, you know, see how
Speaker 1: we could go with it. Meanwhile, Jimmy, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: you on hold for a minute and get around to
Speaker 1: a new caller. I'm not sure where they're calling from,
Speaker 1: but there they are. You're the new caller on the line,
Speaker 1: says wireless, and I don't know who it is.
Speaker 14: It's Chris.
Speaker 1: You going, hey, Chris. Okay, I didn't realize that was
Speaker 1: your number, Chris.
Speaker 14: So I'm sorry.
Speaker 15: I apologize.
Speaker 1: Not no problem. I just didn't know it was you,
Speaker 1: So that's why I said I didn't know anyway. What's
Speaker 1: on your mind today?
Speaker 21: Well, I haven't been catching up on our Is everyone
Speaker 21: pretty much confirmed with the hearings like Tulsea or RFK jr. Like,
Speaker 21: I'm out of a little loop when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe Tulsi and RFK Junior. Well, RK Junior
Speaker 1: was definitely confirmed. I think Tulca was confirmed, but I'm
Speaker 1: not certain as to I don't think he's got all
Speaker 1: of his people confirmed yet, but he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of them in there, B Pete. Do you know about
Speaker 1: the most recent confirmations, because I kind of lost track
Speaker 1: of it recently myself.
Speaker 21: I think that all.
Speaker 11: I think there's just a few odd ones that haven't
Speaker 11: been confirmed.
Speaker 1: A few, Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like most
Speaker 1: of your major cabinet posts, uh, and your major like
Speaker 1: you know, headline people. Yeah, they've all been confirmed. Like
Speaker 1: he said, there's a yeah, cash hotels in there. Yep.
Speaker 21: Okay, Hey, I'm way behind. I'm way behind you every day.
Speaker 1: Sorry what B Pete?
Speaker 12: He just announced charges three people selling crap to China.
Speaker 11: They're in the two of them in the military. One
Speaker 11: of them is connected somehow. But they're being charged with treason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's selling. He's planning on rolling out a bunch
Speaker 1: of trees and charges. I take Bettel, and we'll be
Speaker 1: hearing about that pretty soon, I guess. Once the other
Speaker 1: headlines died down and people get over or forget about
Speaker 1: Musk for a minute. Uh, we'll probably get more headlines
Speaker 1: on that people being prosecuted. He just got his deputy
Speaker 1: just got in there too, right, be Pete and his deputy.
Speaker 12: Uh, Yeah, well he was appointed.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he didn't have to go through a confirmation.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna be curious to see how that works out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a guy who used to be who was a podcaster.
Speaker 1: This was a guy that for years people were trying
Speaker 1: to put put him on my show because he was
Speaker 1: a podcaster. Yeah, I want to check out his history
Speaker 1: if you want to know what he thinks. I think
Speaker 1: he pretty much told you all about it on his podcast.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, yeah, interesting guy. I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 21: So, Chris, that was pretty much. That was pretty much it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's all you have. So late to the party,
Speaker 1: Not no problem, man. Look we're almost out of time
Speaker 1: here anyway. And but how you doing. How's things going?
Speaker 1: You still healing up? I'm sure.
Speaker 14: Yeah, my lower back is still kind of broken. So
Speaker 14: I'm trying my best to not scream into a pillow
Speaker 14: at night. But how have you been doing, my friend?
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. Hey, did you just finish doing
Speaker 1: a broadcast with Nature Boy?
Speaker 14: Yeah? He wanted me to talk about the Late Day McGowen.
Speaker 14: So I think that's going to be one of my
Speaker 14: last like podcasts. So I'm glad I was with him
Speaker 14: and my friend Wheezy.
Speaker 1: Okay, so was Weezy you and nature Boy on the
Speaker 1: third rail over there, and probably he'll get it out
Speaker 1: what tomorrow the next day, Dave will put that out.
Speaker 14: Right, I think? So, yeah, we did the next two days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm pretty sure he primarily works off of
Speaker 1: like Rumble and also the TNP channel. Now I might
Speaker 1: get an audio version of that if if Nature Boy
Speaker 1: remembers to send it to me, and we'll replay it
Speaker 1: on Ocelli dot com. But I only replay the audios
Speaker 1: he sends to me. But if they do, then we'll
Speaker 1: have this little tribute to Dave McGowan on the on
Speaker 1: the network as well, but it'll just be on the
Speaker 1: replace because I don't distribute his podcast, but the New
Speaker 1: Prisoner still does, right.
Speaker 21: Yeah, TMP, and I think a Steve with Am Wake
Speaker 21: Up e.
Speaker 14: Reabrodcast too excellent.
Speaker 1: There you go, So hey, look, might as well promo
Speaker 1: while you're here, I mean, and that will be interesting
Speaker 1: and plus I would never object to somebody listening about
Speaker 1: Dave McGowan. A little interesting back and forth on Twitter
Speaker 1: there earlier this week regarding somebody you know mentioning and
Speaker 1: then misquoting, misquoting the name of Dave McGowan's book, and
Speaker 1: a few other things, and then I got yelled at that. No,
Speaker 1: they weren't actually talking about but they were at one
Speaker 1: point in that podcast.
Speaker 21: But anyway, well, I haven't been on Twitter in a while.
Speaker 21: Was that like a big misconception or well.
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan had a guy on, and you know how
Speaker 1: it is, everybody, even if they say they hate you again,
Speaker 1: they all listen to him. I'm the only guy I
Speaker 1: know that actually doesn't listen to freaking Joe Rogan, you know,
Speaker 1: And I really don't. I have no interest in I
Speaker 1: don't even know why he's worth two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars, which is apparently what he's getting paid for
Speaker 1: his podcast. But anyway, I wonder if I know why
Speaker 1: I say out loud, he.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 1: But anyway, whatever, Joe Rogan is an approved alternative media
Speaker 1: person at this point, and he has on people, and
Speaker 1: as soon as people get on there, they become approved
Speaker 1: alternative media people as well. So I was just pointing
Speaker 1: out that, of course he's not gonna really take the
Speaker 1: time to mention or even know anything about Dave McGowan
Speaker 1: or even about David Ike who he criticizes. So you
Speaker 1: know what, ever, dude he doesn't know is his own stuff.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, enjoy that's right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it is what it is. But anyway, yeah, I
Speaker 1: got a little bit of crap back for that where
Speaker 1: it was like that wasn't what they were talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but that's the book he misnamed the
Speaker 1: guy who was his guest ian something or other, whose
Speaker 1: name I don't even care to memorize because he's just
Speaker 1: another guy regurgitating crap. And that's right, by the way,
Speaker 1: I would advise people listening to The Union of the
Speaker 1: Unwanted on Monday, there will be a JFK discussion on
Speaker 1: there and one of the best people I know will
Speaker 1: be on there. So I'm just gonna leave it at that, uh,
Speaker 1: to discuss it, and hopefully it'll be a serious discussion,
Speaker 1: because I wonder wonder if these guys are ready for
Speaker 1: Larry Hancock crap. I said it out loud, anyway, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, for somebody who actually seriously he studies the
Speaker 1: subject and actually knows something. I wonder if they're ready
Speaker 1: for it. Not sure. I know Ricky, you know, on
Speaker 1: the Ripple Effect, has had Larry on before, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're ready for somebody who's actually going
Speaker 1: to be measured and discuss evidence and you know, and
Speaker 1: has actually interviewed. This is another weird thing people don't
Speaker 1: know about Larry Hancock. A lot of people think he
Speaker 1: just writes books. And there are certain authors out there
Speaker 1: who claim to be experts on the case who do
Speaker 1: sit in their houses and write books, and that's cool
Speaker 1: and all, and I appreciate it. But there are other
Speaker 1: people who actually conduct interviews who actually, you know, got
Speaker 1: in with people who were involved in the case and
Speaker 1: studied evidence and actually studied documents and yeah, things like that,
Speaker 1: and don't just go with the general assumptions you find
Speaker 1: on Google. There are people like that, and Larry Hancock
Speaker 1: is one of them. So, you know, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that Facebook banned him last week, I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: you that Larry is somebody who is well more read
Speaker 1: into the JFK case than anybody has ever given him
Speaker 1: credit for. Okay, And that's that And the only reason
Speaker 1: why you know him and I even have certain discussions
Speaker 1: is because he recognizes that that that I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: talk about every single thing I've done either anyway, just
Speaker 1: saying Larry will be on there Union to the Unwanted
Speaker 1: on Monday, and you might want to see what happens
Speaker 1: when they've got a serious JFK guy on there to
Speaker 1: discuss the case and relevance, et cetera, especially because RFK
Speaker 1: Junior is very very busy with a lot of things
Speaker 1: and supposedly going to make America healthy again, even though
Speaker 1: he's now saying the MMR vaccine is a very important
Speaker 1: thing for you to get for your children, which I
Speaker 1: find strange, but you know, maybe it's just me. So Chris,
Speaker 1: any other thoughts you have before I let everybody get
Speaker 1: in a final shout out. I'll start with you, and
Speaker 1: then i'll go through the phone lines and whoever's on,
Speaker 1: I'll let him get into final word here real quick.
Speaker 21: Well, everyone check out. Larry Hancock is from your shows
Speaker 21: in the past.
Speaker 14: I've learned a lot from your discussions with mister Hancock,
Speaker 14: so I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 21: And I think people like Charlie Robinson and Monica Perez,
Speaker 21: they I don't want to speak for them, but I
Speaker 21: get a good feeling that they'll they'll probably have a
Speaker 21: good take on whatever mister Hancock has to say about chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you never know who's going to show up
Speaker 1: on Union of the Unwanted, So that's the thing is,
Speaker 1: depending on who's there, we'll never know. But I would
Speaker 1: like to see what happens with a very serious person
Speaker 1: who has forgotten more about the case than most people know,
Speaker 1: just saying, just saying, and yeah, no, I'd like to
Speaker 1: see what Charlie does with that. I'd like to see
Speaker 1: what Monica does with that. I recently did an episode
Speaker 1: of Monica's show as well. I don't know if she
Speaker 1: put it out yet, I think she did.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it was great, but I
Speaker 1: was definitely in a weird mood, so it was definitely unusual.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh yeah, looking forward to Monday. And of
Speaker 1: course he was also just on the JFK Fax podcast
Speaker 1: with Jefferson Morley and Larry Schnapp, which is a giant
Speaker 1: zoom call they do over there, and I don't even
Speaker 1: know how that went, but I guess Larry'll blog about it,
Speaker 1: just like he blogged about the recent show he did
Speaker 1: over here about Ukraine, which was very odd. I've never
Speaker 1: heard Larry so frank about current events in my life,
Speaker 1: but hey, it is what it is, Chris. Good to
Speaker 1: hear from you.
Speaker 21: Jefferson, Marleys on Pierce Morgan lately too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knowed. I you know what, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to say at this point about people in the
Speaker 1: community and how much faith they have in what's coming,
Speaker 1: and people making assumptions about what we're about to get
Speaker 1: or not get from the government. I just tell everybody
Speaker 1: just just keep your eyes open and understand that you
Speaker 1: need to read when they're putting out these declarations. Don't
Speaker 1: just take the headlines, whether it's from the corporate media
Speaker 1: or the spin masters or the people that are on
Speaker 1: one side or the other. Read the damn thing yourself. Please,
Speaker 1: That's all I ask anyway, Chris, I actually hope that
Speaker 1: if you're doing your final rounds of podcasts, I'll say
Speaker 1: this out loud and in public right now. I hope
Speaker 1: you and I can sit down for one last podcast. Also.
Speaker 21: I would enjoy that immensely.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're going to get out of the
Speaker 1: game entirely, I'd like to be one of the last
Speaker 1: people on the list that you have to talk with
Speaker 1: maybe an hour on my show, you know, next week,
Speaker 1: whenever you feel up to it, let me know, let
Speaker 1: me know, okay, just let me know.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm there.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do that because I know we got
Speaker 1: a few things that people are at can questions about
Speaker 1: and uh and and plus just like to clear the
Speaker 1: air about a few things and just say, what's what.
Speaker 1: We had a private conversation and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: discuss that here because I don't have time. And uh.
Speaker 1: Plus you know what, it was a private conversation. But
Speaker 1: you know, we'll we'll discuss a few things in public,
Speaker 1: if that's ok. All right, So look look for that
Speaker 1: to come up on the Ocelli Effects soon. Chris gonna
Speaker 1: put you on hold. And uh I thank you for
Speaker 1: calling in man, appreciate you. Now let's go to Jimmy
Speaker 1: James real fast, and Jimmy, you got a final word
Speaker 1: for the week.
Speaker 7: Oh sorry, if you want me to go to Chris first,
Speaker 7: well you take them all wild bit okay, sorry, gud.
Speaker 1: I said I could go to Chris real quick if
Speaker 1: you want another minute to gather your thoughts.
Speaker 7: They're gathered, okay, who I damn it.
Speaker 1: I accidentally Sorry, Jimmy, I accidentally tapped the button there. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead?
Speaker 7: Oh man trying me said, go chilling?
Speaker 21: Were you trying to.
Speaker 1: Pull here me? I'm not trying to pull anything, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just bad with the new mouse. I got a
Speaker 1: new mouse. I had to so the new mouse was
Speaker 1: a little sensitive and I accidentally clicked you off. There,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 7: He's one of the mortalist jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what it's it's probably good enough
Speaker 1: for government work, or at least it used to be. Anyhow, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: if you want to drop something on, go ahead, man,
Speaker 1: it's all you.
Speaker 7: Uh uh or there was a in thought. I know
Speaker 7: I had something to drop. Good night everyone, bless and
Speaker 7: u hey donate to the effect to keep it going.
Speaker 7: Times are tough, Times are hard. Still appreciate that, and
Speaker 7: everyone's got a rough time, including Chuck.
Speaker 1: Very much so. And I thank you Jimmy. You've always
Speaker 1: been there and no matter how much we disagree, you
Speaker 1: do support this and I appreciate it. And the James
Speaker 1: Gang or whatever it is your fanclub wants to call themselves.
Speaker 1: I think they should be the James Gang and like
Speaker 1: change the spelling or something. But anyway, that's my thought.
Speaker 1: You guys ought to get in touch with me. Info
Speaker 1: Atochelly dot com or blind JFK Research or at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. And the Chris from California if you're still
Speaker 1: driving or whatever, if you want to drop in a
Speaker 1: final thought, it's all you.
Speaker 22: I'm hauled Saints and sound. Actually yeah, I'll give a
Speaker 22: final thoughts. I was listening to your show and kind
Speaker 22: of reflecting prior to before I got in the car
Speaker 22: and called. I was sitting there, you know, I was
Speaker 22: standing there watching my grandkids and a lot of children
Speaker 22: in the same age, watching them play as the sunset
Speaker 22: was going down, and I can just remember when that
Speaker 22: burnolin wall came down and holding my children in the
Speaker 22: living room and thinking, man, they're going to live in
Speaker 22: a world of peace and Miley wish is that wish
Speaker 22: and prayer in that living room, that little tiny house.
Speaker 22: I just know some of Theo's children in Ukraine, in Russia,
Speaker 22: in China and other places in the world. I'm sure
Speaker 22: that the same thoughts, whether we have cultural differences and
Speaker 22: opinions of politics, faiths or religion, that they have the
Speaker 22: same prayers. So that I hope there's just peaceful prevail.
Speaker 1: Well, brother, your mouth to God's ears they as they say, right,
Speaker 1: I really do wish regardless of what our differences are,
Speaker 1: that yeah, we could have a peaceful planet where we
Speaker 1: don't have to sit here and you know, murder each other,
Speaker 1: either by proxy or directly. But it's not the way
Speaker 1: of the world, the way it is at the moment.
Speaker 1: Pe pete. Any final thoughts, my friend, I'll give it
Speaker 1: to you for the very last last thought of the week.
Speaker 12: Well, just would recommend everybody go to a Telli dot
Speaker 12: com and hit.
Speaker 11: The donate button. Do it's can everything it helps.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna spend the next week back up in the
Speaker 12: mountains and got snowed out for the past two days,
Speaker 12: so well, next week we'll be up there and basically
Speaker 12: only in contact with the outside world once you get
Speaker 12: back to the hotel and get to some Wi Fi
Speaker 12: and or phone signal. But other than that, looking forward
Speaker 12: to next week, and everybody do what you can and
Speaker 12: just try to get along.
Speaker 14: With your favors.
Speaker 1: I say we try and get along with everybody again,
Speaker 1: regardless of your difference, is because we are all stuck
Speaker 1: on the same planet, at least temporarily until elon gets
Speaker 1: us to Mars right, So until then, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if the Age of Transitions is coming up next or not,
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll see in a moment, and we'll
Speaker 1: see how things go next week. Hopefully it'll be more
Speaker 1: prosperous week with the podcasts and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: I do have a couple of big bills coming up
Speaker 1: in April. Actually knocked out a couple, so you know,
Speaker 1: I got one massive bill left and that's it. Hopefully
Speaker 1: it'll get taken care of. We'll see, and we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can continue this for at least one more
Speaker 1: year and keep it going. Anyway, good time, no matter
Speaker 1: who you are, where you are, when you are whatever
Speaker 1: on your week.