WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:10.560 You see something's going to happen. What's going to happen? 2 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:13.000 I'll take one? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:22.719 What help? 4 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:29.600 Welcome to the Cult Rejects. This episode, we got a 5 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:31.960 returning guest, somebody that was on for the Cabala series, 6 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.000 and I'm very very happy to actually just have him 7 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.079 on as a guest and see what he's into. But 8 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:39.560 before we introduced him, Matt got my boy Jin and 9 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:42.079 the motherfucker inga with you? And what is going on? 10 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:43.039 You? How about you? Sire? 11 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:46.560 What is that? Boss? Mister ninety three? It's great to 12 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:46.960 be here. 13 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:50.119 Obviously, man's one of my I would say he's one 14 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:52.759 of my favorite people. I can found all my favorite 15 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.560 people on my like we'll say my left hand, and 16 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:59.280 so he's definitely number one, or at least number two. 17 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:01.960 And so I really appreciate Matt and I'm really here 18 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.799 to support him. But of course we are co hosts 19 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:07.560 together on The Gray Lodge. So let me plug that. 20 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:12.040 So the True Gray Lodge, the t r V True 21 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.519 Gray Lodge dot Com. I'd probably fucked it up. I'm sorry, Matt, 22 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:19.239 but he built it for us. It's an incredible website. 23 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.000 It's an archive of all of all of our metamagic. 24 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:26.079 So we're like, we do this kind of gonzo gnostic 25 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:28.920 radio on Friday nights, and we've been recording it and 26 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:32.079 uploading it what Matt has uploading it to YouTube, and 27 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.719 so you can also check us out on the Gray 28 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.879 Lodge YouTube like and subscribe, and you can of course 29 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:43.079 listen to all the co hosts Matt included on Threshold 30 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:47.079 Saints through that same website because all of their episodes 31 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:49.719 are there, and so and a lot of the episodes 32 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:52.359 that I've recorded with you Nick and with like any 33 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:54.879 of the other brothers that have come on, I've also 34 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:55.680 put on my feed. 35 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:57.280 So you can. 36 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.560 You know, there's multiple ways. There's there's no not to 37 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:03.599 you know, listen to us talk about Medica ball. 38 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:05.040 I love it. 39 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.159 Thank you so much and I'm really excited. 40 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.080 Of course. Of course, one thing I didn't want to 41 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.159 ask the things the spaces. Did you ever release that 42 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:14.759 on your podcast. 43 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:18.759 Or no, we we could do an audio like like 44 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:21.319 record it like just like a feed, or it could 45 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.439 go online whatever. I mean, it doesn't really matter, but 46 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:26.240 we've never done that. But they are on YouTube, so 47 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:28.240 people can of course, if they have a YouTube account, 48 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:30.759 they can rip them and you know they are audio only, 49 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:33.719 but you can see our keno and like the kind 50 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:35.919 of art direction, and it does play a role like 51 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:40.080 people might not associate it, but at every time we 52 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:42.960 make something or make a keynot as Matt would call it, 53 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.919 or even the titling, it all goes like there's a 54 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:49.599 coupleistic reason why it all goes together. So it's part 55 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.759 of like our greater metamagical project is to sort of 56 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.439 link what we're talking about with an actual sort of 57 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:00.479 sepharatic image. 58 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:01.439 Yeah. 59 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:05.039 Well I highly SUGGECT people to check out your your 60 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:09.960 spaces and your podcast. But uh yeah, thank you for 61 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.599 coming on, Jen, I really appreciate it. 62 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.159 I really appreciate it too. And let me just shout 63 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:18.599 out that I am. I had an episode sorry with 64 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.719 bed Selena now she dropped Friday and on Elvis, but 65 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.120 we it's a lot more. It's about like the metaphysics, 66 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:29.360 it's about Cabala, It's about astrology, especially asteroids and how 67 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:31.439 their Cato likes. So we talk a lot about sort 68 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:34.240 of contrac astrology through that frame. And I'm dropping a 69 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:38.639 Vadriana episode today no Curses for old Men, So if 70 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.759 you're interested in hearing me talk about serious Buddhist contra 71 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:43.599 for like two hours. 72 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:47.080 Uh you can check that out. Thank you guys appreciate. 73 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:51.280 That of course, of course. Yeah, and uh yeah, Genjin, 74 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:52.879 thank you very much for coming on, and thanks for 75 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:57.039 even introducing me to Matt and finally to the guests themselves. 76 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.319 We got Matt, what is going on, sir? I mean, 77 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:01.840 I've know you've been on the show before and you've 78 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:04.159 introduced yourself and let people know what's up. But please, 79 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:05.400 you know, if this is the first time people are 80 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:07.400 listening to you, let everybody know what your dealer is. 81 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:08.520 Plug everything you got, So. 82 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:12.960 Let's go. So again, thanks a lot for calling me. 83 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.680 Was a really fun doing the Kabala series. And obviously 84 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:21.360 here with Jin my i'ld say, right side best man. 85 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.079 So that's uh, we do the power opposites. I'm in 86 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.240 your left, here in my right. And yeah, we do 87 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.120 a lot of stuff. So first of all, mett Moa, 88 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:33.240 you can find me on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, you 89 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.920 name it. If I'm not there, send me. I'll try 90 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.240 to create an account. If it's a social media that 91 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:42.680 I'm not there, always add mett Moa nineteen sown here 92 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:46.040 as well on the video. And there's also my website, 93 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:47.519 which is really cool. I'm gonna show a lot of 94 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:51.959 stuff here. So kabala dot com. So k A A 95 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:55.399 b a l ah dot com. I'm gonna share it 96 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:59.920 and then we can see it. So, okay, kabala, right, Kabala. 97 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.199 I'll maybe if I can already start creeping it. 98 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:04.800 Off there, go for it. 99 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:09.360 Awesome. So I think first first thing to clarify is 100 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:13.439 that the kabala that I was initiated into and that 101 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:17.759 I study and practice it is not necessarily the usual kabala. 102 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:19.720 And what do I mean by that is that if 103 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:21.800 you search for kabala, you're likely going to, you know, 104 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:25.959 find the Jewish, the Harmatic, the whatever. There are many. 105 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:29.879 The one that I'm that I was initiated in we 106 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.120 call it kabala, but it could be called anything. Really, 107 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:35.920 the name doesn't matter to an extent. The main idea 108 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:40.199 is to have a system that has all initiations, so 109 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.480 with that system you can explain anything. So for example, 110 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.879 someone comes. I saw the other day it was like 111 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.959 a like an supposed to be a numerology map, and 112 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.720 it's like a circle with twelve things and like two 113 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:55.319 triangles and whatever like super complex apparently. But then when 114 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.000 you again, when you place that thing, which first time 115 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.519 I was seeing it, I think it was like a 116 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.079 woman or whatever who created it. When I placed that 117 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.480 into the system that I use, I can very easily 118 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:10.199 understand it. Okay, it's just that, so it's not diminishing stuff, 119 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:13.639 but it's just again, if we assume that the universe 120 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:17.199 is holographic and made of out of fractals, so everything's 121 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.879 kind of connected, there must be one system that explains everything. 122 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:24.560 That's the thing that I'm referring to. Kabbala not necessarily 123 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:28.040 Jewish one, as obviously we also use it, not necessarily 124 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.720 harmtic one, as we also obviously use it, and so 125 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:35.519 on yoga, eaching, unime, it many many different stuff. So 126 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.079 I guess better than talking, I can show. I'll try 127 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:40.160 to share my screen here. 128 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.160 Well, like how you said that, because even when it 129 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:43.600 comes to the gabala, like I'll look at it in 130 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:45.839 a hermetic sense, but I also think it shows, like 131 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.959 I think it literally even shows like light reflection, like 132 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:52.759 you're saying, like, there's a lot more to that tree 133 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:57.680 that I think most people think exactly Like I can 134 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.279 look at it as like science to be saw, it's 135 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:05.360 your theology or religion or however you want a spirituality. 136 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.360 Sorry, Matt, just let me go in between you two. First, 137 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:09.040 quick second. 138 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:13.600 Yeah, I totally agree with everything that both of them said, 139 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.959 Like the tree is the I'm not a perennialist, but 140 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:19.720 we'll just use that word because it's a good referential 141 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:24.279 sort of idea. But you can map all religions onto 142 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.800 the tree. You can map all dialectical decisions onto the tree. 143 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:32.319 You can reverse map things from the tree. So the 144 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:35.879 tree is the foundational wisdom science. Now, it's like what 145 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.399 Matt said that it's not the Jewish kabbala, it's not 146 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:42.000 Hermetic kabala. It's both, but it's also all the other 147 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:44.560 shit too. That's what I think, and I think Matt agrees. 148 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.759 And this is why we call ourselves meta magicians, because 149 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:50.480 it is about fundamentally looking at the tree, but using 150 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:55.439 maybe more modern language to talk about some of the 151 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:56.639 more profound ideas. 152 00:07:57.079 --> 00:07:59.439 You know, I'm really glad that you just mentioned something. 153 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.279 And uh, I'm glad you mentioned it kind of like 154 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:08.519 with the differences between like Hermetic and even like the Jewish, 155 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:11.000 well not did you mention it, but like you did 156 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:14.360 mention that there's a difference in my opinion, Well, I'm 157 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:17.680 asking you actually in your opinion when it comes to 158 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:22.360 occultist and people, I guess in the magical community, which 159 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:28.360 kind of kabbala are they normally referring to. So I'll say, like, 160 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.639 for me, I think it's hermetic, not most people actually 161 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:36.759 go just to the Jewish kabala because it's completely different exactly. 162 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:39.840 So yeah, first thing to understand is if I said 163 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:42.000 that I was initiated into Jewish cabbala, I would be 164 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:44.279 lying because in theory you have to be like forty 165 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:48.039 years old, and I guess like not married or whatever. Married, Like, 166 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:49.879 there's a lot of things that it must do, and 167 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:52.480 there's a lot of shit. I'm not into that. I mean, 168 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.360 if you want to do it again. Actually my opinion, 169 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.440 that's just for you to be locked into that system. 170 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:00.720 Not saying it's good. That just it's what it is. 171 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:04.240 You know, you're locked there now you gotta basically use it. Well, 172 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.200 I prefer using all the systems so I can learn 173 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.240 about it, not being initiated into it. It's completely different. 174 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.279 But I'll say the to keep it like pretty simple. 175 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.200 What I mean think about Jewish Kabala. We have the 176 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:22.159 seven Laws of Noah. I think it's called Noah in English. 177 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.639 It's basically the Ten Commandments, but like shortened out right. 178 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.320 So these are moral laws. These are physical like things 179 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.279 that you need for material life. Okay. And then we 180 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.039 have the hermetic Kabala, which we have the seven like 181 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.200 laws for the Kabalium. You know, so the same idea, 182 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.480 like the word is mental, the law of correspondence whatever. 183 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:48.720 So again those are much more let's call it digital, right, 184 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:50.559 they're like, oh kind of stuff. 185 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:54.960 Now, then we have real quick man, I'm sorry, real quick, 186 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:57.240 but you mentioned the Kabalion for people that are into 187 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.279 the Kabala, do you think that book would actually is 188 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.240 a good compliment to the Kabbala. 189 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.799 Well, let's let's let's see the name Kabbala, Kabalion. 190 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:10.080 It's like, come on, no, no, honestly, I think get it. 191 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:14.879 If somebody is into helps me exactly. 192 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.840 There's definitely things. Again, I like reading books from time 193 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:22.080 to time, but also when you go deep into the stuff, 194 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.759 you see that most of them basically talk about the 195 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:27.519 same thing. So if you read into the Kabalian, Kai 196 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.159 Balion or whatever, and you liked it, awesome, there's going 197 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:31.960 to be other books that also talk about from the 198 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:35.960 same thing, even with like some scientific jargon and so on, 199 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:39.720 so kind of Pierre pick here treat. You know, So, 200 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.480 as I was saying, you have the seven analog ones 201 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:44.919 from the Jewish Kabala, the seven digital ones from the 202 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.919 Hermetic and then you have the fourteen parts of Osiris 203 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:53.159 pieces of Osiris that you had back in Egyptian initiation schools. 204 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.000 So again you can start tracing back all the stuff. 205 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.960 But basically the main idea is that one's going to 206 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:02.519 be more focused on one thing, for example, material life 207 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.080 and how you can bring spitravel into material life, and 208 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.080 the other one is the opposite. How can I go 209 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.159 from mature life to spiritual life and so well. But 210 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:13.080 then again it's like the paths in the tree, right, 211 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.600 So we are seeing now the tree here I'm sharing 212 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:19.240 my screen, and we have the left column their life column. 213 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.519 So it would be the same idea. We have the 214 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:24.360 juice cabbala and one of the columns harmatic kabala and 215 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.879 another one of the columns. But then again you need 216 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:29.919 the middle, you need the synthesis of both. So that's 217 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.039 what I try to always get into how can I 218 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.919 synthesize this? Or even let's say, if I'm doing an 219 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:40.360 astrology map reading for someone, I don't want to give 220 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:46.080 them fucking you know, a big wall of text, super mystical, 221 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:47.679 and so I'm sure if they want that, I can 222 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:49.639 give that as well. But my main point is how 223 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:52.080 can I synthesize what you are so that you can 224 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.240 improve it, so that it can change it, so that 225 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.919 it can understand it. Like for me, it doesn't matter 226 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:02.159 if it's a thirty thousand pages book or something. It's 227 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.639 not like, how how can this help me? You know? 228 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.000 The point is how can I synthesize this and help 229 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:11.039 me and go on with my life? So again, the 230 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:14.440 idea with the kabbala here is that it should explain everything. 231 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:16.799 So I'm gonna try to use it now to explain 232 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.679 one thing, which is how can we manifest stuff in life? 233 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.600 And just before I do, we had a comment, so 234 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:26.720 somebody asked why going with the ten? 235 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.960 Going to thank you for much? You know, I'm gonna 236 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:31.240 be totally honest with you. I didn't know where the 237 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.480 twelve came from. I knew I could see eleven, I 238 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:35.120 didn't know. I was like, fuck, I'm slipping. I don't 239 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.879 know there's twelve spheeres exactly. 240 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.320 So the thing is some of some people, like the 241 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.519 Jewish Cabbala doesn't necessarily count that, so it would be ten. 242 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:46.879 And then they say, like it's a sphere not fear 243 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:49.879 or like a digital sphere they say it sometimes again 244 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:52.200 it really depends I count it. But if you want 245 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.759 to go by the default ten, right, we have the 246 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:57.200 ten here and not the ying yang which is behind 247 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.799 the tree. But then they asked, and why not the twelve? 248 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:06.200 So again it has more spheres. It's just that it's 249 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:08.679 very complex to have the thing here in two D. Right, 250 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:10.960 the thing is actually three D. I can show it afterwards. 251 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:16.639 But we have also the ein eyeing and so we yeah, 252 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.320 is just depends how we count it, right, So the 253 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:25.080 ten spirit simple to understand? Why ten? First of all? 254 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:29.559 Ten fingers? Right, So we have a ten base counting 255 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:33.919 system already embedded in our technology. So I think I 256 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:36.039 should make this clear already at the beginning as well. 257 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:41.159 What Kabbala should explain is the technology of our souls, 258 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:44.320 of our body, of the universe. So if we understand 259 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:47.559 our body, then again ten fingers for example, then it 260 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:49.919 can easily count the spheres. We can even place them 261 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.879 in the in the tree. So for example cats, there 262 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:57.039 would be the right side thumb, then Huan the index 263 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.159 like right side index and so on, so you can 264 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:02.679 like place them in the tree basically. And then again 265 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:04.600 that's why you have ten. But then you have other 266 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:06.960 ones as well, so it's you have all the numbers. Really, 267 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.080 it just depends on what's the the counting system that 268 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:12.879 you want to use. It's the same with mathematics, right 269 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:14.799 you want to use the ten based system or the 270 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:19.360 two based system with binary, or the sixteen basic system 271 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.159 the hexadecimo. Really depends on what you want to do. 272 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.320 Ten it's usually what we use. Then again, if you 273 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:29.279 want to manifest something, so we want to bring something 274 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:31.799 into life, we are always going to use the system. 275 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.200 Whether you like it or not, whether you believe it 276 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:36.519 or not, it doesn't matter. Really, you're going to use 277 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.200 the system and you're going to see why it's even intuitive. 278 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.399 Like it's not me saying something. I'm not creating something. Again, 279 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.360 I got initiated into that kind of stuff. I'm just 280 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:49.080 speaking about what I studied and what I practice. But 281 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.919 they're going to see it's very intuitive. So let's get 282 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:55.879 an example. Let's say the simple simplest thing I can 283 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.480 think of. I want to eat something. Okay, I want 284 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.519 to eat something. How I go about eating something? So 285 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.480 the first thing is that I want it, So that's 286 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.399 the first fear at the top here. It should be 287 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.639 like a crystal. So it's hard to put it into 288 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:14.120 like a drowning here, but it should be like a 289 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.559 crystal kind of thing. And that's the will. So I 290 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:21.039 want something. So if I don't want something, I'm not 291 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.879 going to do it. It's as simple as that. If 292 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:25.360 I don't want to do it, I'm not gonna do it. 293 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.080 So if something happens, it's because I want it in 294 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.639 some way, and I can I can go into the 295 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.519 four words, the elements and someone afterwards. But basically this 296 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:40.559 is also the further the way we are from our body, 297 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:42.840 which is down here, so we are going to get there. 298 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:45.720 This is when the thing gets actually manifested. This is 299 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.799 just the beginning. So I need I need to want 300 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:51.600 something for it to happen. Okay, then let's say I'll 301 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:52.600 continue real quick. 302 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:54.120 I just want to ask you some questions. If you 303 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:57.120 don't mine man, yeah, for sure, you know when it 304 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:59.080 comes to you, like even like I guess, working with 305 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:00.200 the Cabala, I don't know how you do it. I 306 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.279 don't know if you meditate taro sigils rituals. You know, 307 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:05.799 I don't know what you do. But when you do 308 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:08.519 look at it and use it as incorporating it into 309 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:12.799 your life, you seem it's more of like directed towards 310 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:16.159 you and that others Like for me when I use 311 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:17.960 the Kabbala, and I was, you know, heavily into using 312 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:21.600 the Kabbala ritualistically. Again for me looking at it, that 313 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:23.879 it's kind of somewhat to do with science, but more 314 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.039 of like kind of like my relationship with God and 315 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.799 how I came even into reality for me when I 316 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.480 use the Kabbala. And again like listen, everybody, everybody can 317 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.240 use shit for black magic. I just think that like 318 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:39.720 when people think of the Kabbala, they think it's automatically 319 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.799 like some style of magic that's meant to hurt or 320 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:46.039 harm people. And the thing is for most people that 321 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:48.320 I know, when it comes to using the Kabbala, it's 322 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:51.000 actually doing self work on them. You know, they're dealing 323 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.440 with their own self. So I mean, I don't know 324 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:57.360 if like kind of like that's my experience and I 325 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:59.919 from gin I kind of get that from things he said, 326 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:02.600 I would assume you look at it the same way kind. 327 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:06.759 Of right, so you can use anything really like if 328 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.240 you go by the left side column, you're going to 329 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:14.839 that again self oriented action. If you go with the 330 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.519 right side column, you're gonna go with the other like 331 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.839 the environment action, right, you want to act on other 332 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:26.200 things at the end of the day, I'll say, even 333 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:29.920 like classifications of white, black, gray, magic, whatever, it's really 334 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:33.079 down to morals. Like for example, if I use let's 335 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:34.880 think about it this way, if I use magic to 336 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:38.079 help someone earn money, like gain a little bit of cash, 337 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:41.400 is that white or black magic? What really depends, like 338 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:43.400 what's my intent with that. If my intent is to 339 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:45.200 have them have a lot of money and then crash 340 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:46.640 out because they are not going to be able to 341 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:49.240 handle it, then maybe that's black magic. But if my 342 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.519 intent is to maybe help them. But then sometimes your 343 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.160 intent is to help people and you actually end up 344 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:58.720 not helping them. I can give an example. I was 345 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:03.079 doing the driver exam like a few weeks ago, and 346 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.720 then it had like there was a roundabout and the 347 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:07.720 guy was already in the roundabout. So in theory, I 348 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.559 should just wait for him and then he'll go. I'll 349 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:11.319 go after first. 350 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:12.640 But I was there. 351 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:15.799 I was like even I was super relaxed. I was stopping. 352 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.319 I was basically stopped. He saw me and he stopped 353 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.279 the car as in like hey, you can go, and 354 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.119 subconsciously I just accepted and went. But that's like it 355 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.279 fucked me. Okay, I didn't get the driving lass because 356 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.400 I shouldn't go. So that's the thing he in theory, 357 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:31.240 maybe he didn't even think about it. It was just 358 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:33.880 kind of like you know, automatic, Yeah, sure, like he 359 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:35.799 was slow as well, so he'll stop, I can go, 360 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:39.240 so you know what I mean. Uh, that's the that's 361 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:42.759 the thing the classification really of even when we talk 362 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.359 about high magic low magic, like low magic, i'm working 363 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.200 with the earthstuff. High magic, I'm working with a celestial means. 364 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:50.279 But really it's magic, like we're all. 365 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:55.000 Guy Black magically fucked you exactly. 366 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.000 But maybe he was trying to do white magic. You know, 367 00:18:58.039 --> 00:18:58.759 he was trying to help you. 368 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:03.720 Yea a rush that's like no, please go, it's not 369 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.599 my time. You ever see that, you ever see that 370 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:09.680 show on uh on. I think it's on Prime. It 371 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:12.799 might be good. Omens, do you ever hear of that show? 372 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:15.039 It's kind of funny and it's like it shows the 373 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.000 gods and stuff, and it shows like how one of 374 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:20.440 the angels, like you know, gave humans like a sword 375 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:23.680 or something to protect themselves, and it shows how like 376 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:26.319 that caused a huge problem in humans. 377 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:27.279 You know. 378 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:29.440 It's just funny, how like, oh, you think you're doing 379 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:31.640 someone a favor and instead you just taught people how 380 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:32.000 to kill. 381 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.839 Yeah, exactly. That Like that's what people talk about when 382 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:40.160 they say like, oh, I'm doing angelic magic. Right. They're 383 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:42.680 very direct. So if you ask them, oh, I don't 384 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:44.720 like my job, they're like, okay, I'll just get rid 385 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.400 of it. Now you're no, you don't have a job. Yeah, 386 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:51.119 you gotta be really precise with Again again, let's come 387 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:52.920 back to it with what you want. So you've got 388 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.839 to be really really precise with what you wants, right, 389 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:57.759 that's the first step. If you don't have that theory, 390 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.319 it doesn't matter like you're gonna try to do stuff. 391 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.000 It doesn't matter. For example, I let's say you're trying 392 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:05.720 to look for a job. A lot of people they 393 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:07.519 are trying to look for a job, but then they 394 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.359 don't actually want it. That's the thing they're trying to do. 395 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.319 They're doing the actions. I'm gonna get into the four elements. 396 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:15.920 They're doing the emotions the actions to like they're trying 397 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:19.200 to you know, search for listenings listenings and apply for 398 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:21.319 it and so on, but they don't actually want it. 399 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:24.680 So guess what that will never happen. That will never happen. 400 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:28.359 And the moment they switch the flip that, they flip 401 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:31.720 the switch and say, oh I actually want it that way, boom, 402 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.880 give it like two three days. Sometimes like magic is not. 403 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:39.200 They don't necessarily have to do virtualistic like you ask me, 404 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:41.400 I can do it as well. I like doing some times. 405 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:43.799 So if you don't necessarily have to, I can give 406 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:47.200 a small technique in the end, but it's at the end. 407 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:50.480 It's simple stuff. So kabala. You can use it honestly 408 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:54.359 to anything literally literally anything like in the spaces we 409 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:58.480 use it to understand movies and music and a lot 410 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:01.799 of other stuff. You can use it to in your company. 411 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:03.319 You can use it to make more money. You can 412 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:05.200 use it to have better relationships. You can use to 413 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:09.160 improve yourself. You can use it to again grow spiritually. 414 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:13.160 Anything that's the that should be the idea with the system, 415 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:15.599 that you can do literally anything with it. Just your 416 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:18.440 imagination becomes the limit. And I'm going to get into 417 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.640 imagination as well. How how important it is. But again, 418 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.200 real quick step, one second step. 419 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:26.680 Real quick. I just want to throw this in there. 420 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:29.039 You know, I saw like Freda even say that, uh, 421 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.359 Freda Vinci saying like he said, you know, when it 422 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.839 comes to Kabala, it gets confused, and I think there 423 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:36.559 was like maybe other comments in there too, or you know, 424 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.319 somebody saying I don't even know what I want, you know, 425 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:41.240 when it comes to the Kabbala, Like even for myself, 426 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:43.240 I'm huge into it now. I mean, you know, I 427 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:45.160 think a lot of people know my story. Maybe some 428 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:46.920 of the new listeners don't, you know. I was even 429 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:50.000 in the OTO for like six years, and I'd say 430 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:51.599 it was probably the first year and a half two 431 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:53.559 years I was kind of like fucked off Kabala. I 432 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.359 was like, it sounds silly, it sounds like too much 433 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:58.240 to do, blah blah blah. And then like I don't know, 434 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:00.279 one day it just caught my attention and I ran 435 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:02.000 with it. But like you know, people who seem to 436 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:05.960 be confused or maybe intimidated by it, I was the 437 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:09.400 same way too, and it's quite different with that now. 438 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:13.000 So don't let it seem to you know, seem overwhelming. 439 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.920 It's you again. I even think again, reading the Kabalion 440 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.319 with it, or maybe just the certain authors might help 441 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:23.240 reading better than others. But I definitely, I'm definitely glad 442 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.240 I decided to put down the fear and look into 443 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.200 it because I do think it has actually helped me 444 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:28.119 be a better person. 445 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:32.279 So so let's think about it this way. If if 446 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:37.519 one doesn't know what they want, that's still so that's 447 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.720 not an impediment because they will want things subconsciously. And 448 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:44.000 what do you mean by that? You were born in 449 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:48.279 a specific country like city street, with a specific family 450 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:51.359 at a specific time, and so and so on, so 451 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:54.519 all of that will already since the moment you were born. 452 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:58.039 It's going to give you once, for example, the unconscious 453 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:01.160 one of getting married, the unconstry just want of getting 454 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:05.160 a high prestigious job, the unconscious want of again food. 455 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.039 I mean, you don't want to need, you don't need 456 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:13.000 to to consciously have the desire for food, right, You 457 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:15.359 just your body just kind of sends you the signal like, hey, 458 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:16.880 let's eat, and then you accept it. 459 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:17.519 Right. 460 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:19.960 But if let's say some people have this problem, they 461 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:23.119 don't have the desire to get to go and eat, 462 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.440 so they get sick for example. So again they have 463 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:28.599 a problem already at the first year here, they're never 464 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:30.119 going to eat because they don't have the desire for it. 465 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.240 The one thing, so if you don't have an overall desire, 466 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:37.880 try doing the auto aate. Try going into your roots 467 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:40.640 and looking back. Okay, what do I like when I 468 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:43.000 was a kid that maybe I didn't go for because 469 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:46.160 you know, because of family, because of environment, of culture, whatever. 470 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:50.119 What did I didn't do because I thought it was 471 00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:53.720 not possible. So that's a lot of how it happens 472 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.960 as well. Let's say with the job example, someone would say, oh, 473 00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:59.480 I want a job, I need a job, okay, but 474 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:01.920 then they don't actually specify the type of the job 475 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.599 they want, or they think that the job they want 476 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.559 is too hard or too you know, far away from them, 477 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:09.839 so they're looking for a job which is not the 478 00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.839 one they actually want. So that's again that's never gonna happen, 479 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.400 or if it happens, it's gonna be super shit and 480 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:17.519 they're gonna quit. So they're gonna find a way to 481 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:21.960 not do it, you know. So I'll say you can 482 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:24.440 trace back again, you can work with the tree. I'm 483 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:27.079 going top down, which I prefer the beginning, and then 484 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:30.519 you can go bottom up again and I'll see, I'll 485 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:35.519 tell what's the difference. So again we have the one. 486 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:40.160 The second step then is the one which is supposed 487 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:43.240 to be like irridescent, so it's all colors combined in 488 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:46.400 their highest vibration, or it can be just the color 489 00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:47.920 of the bottom spheres. 490 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:48.079 Here. 491 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.000 The idea here then is that we have the one 492 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.839 which was formless energy. It's like there's nothing yet, right, 493 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.799 it's just just pure energy, there's nothing. It becomes a 494 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.400 a little bit slower, so a little bit more dense, 495 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:05.480 and it becomes light. So what does it mean practically? 496 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.759 I want to eat? I already have the desire. Can 497 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.160 I have the image of what I want to eat? 498 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.480 For example, I follow on eat tackos. I know how 499 00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:17.160 tacos look, so I can go around and see, oh 500 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.200 there's a tackle store, and I go there and grab 501 00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.039 a taco. But if I don't know, like I cannot 502 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:24.359 see a taco in my head, I don't even know 503 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:26.960 where to start. I won't even look for it because 504 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.119 I don't even know it exists. Right, So for you 505 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.359 to again, I want to make the I want to 506 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:35.839 manufacture a car. I need a blueprint for the car. 507 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.680 I cannot just manufacture it. I need to make a lamp. 508 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:40.839 I need to like the blueprint of the lamp. I 509 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:44.400 need some kind of structured image for it to start 510 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:48.519 becoming real. The whole process here is basically getting energy 511 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:53.000 in its most formless form into dense form that's going 512 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.759 to come through as we're going to see our imagination, 513 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:01.640 our emotion, our feelings, sorry, our thoughts, and our emotions 514 00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:06.240 slash actions. So here again still super abstract, but we 515 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.079 need the image in our heads. If you don't have 516 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.359 the image in your head, or if that image is 517 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:13.200 kind of weirded out, you're not going to get it. 518 00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.960 That's where a lot of like self improvement books will 519 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:18.960 talk about, oh, you need a vision board. You know, 520 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:20.599 you need the vision board of the things you want. 521 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:24.000 You need to see yourself already as a successful person 522 00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:27.200 or whatever. Yeah, because if you don't see it, you're 523 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:28.720 never going to get it. Like, you need to be 524 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:32.839 able to literally picture it in your head and bonus 525 00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:35.480 sip here not only the image, but if you can 526 00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:38.519 get all your senses, like right now, I'm pretty sure 527 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.519 most of you watching. If you really try to focus, 528 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.119 you can imagine, like an apple in my head, in 529 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.039 my hand, there's an apple here. But then can you 530 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.599 like grab the apple, can you turn it? Can you 531 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.359 smell it? Can you taste it? Can you feel like 532 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.079 the crenchiness if you were to bite it, the sound 533 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.160 of the thing being bitten, and so on and so forth. 534 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.440 Obviously it's not going to be clear if you're doing 535 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.039 it for the first time, but you can try it. 536 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.640 It's gonna work. You're gonna depending on let's say, if 537 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.240 you get a food that you like a lot, you're 538 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.000 gonna start salivating right just from thinking about it. That's 539 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:14.640 the idea. Your brain doesn't really feel the difference you're 540 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:18.599 you're imagining it. It's becoming real. So again, I want 541 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.839 to eat something. I can see it in my head. 542 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:26.799 That light becomes a little bit slower, becomes sound. So again, 543 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:31.240 in practical terms, this would be when we can explain stuff, 544 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.440 can you understand it? So again, if I want to eat, 545 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:36.480 like I went to let's say China once and then 546 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.920 there was this super meal that I like a lot, 547 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:40.599 so I can see it in my head. It's super good. 548 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.599 I can even taste in this one, but I can't 549 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:44.759 really explain it, like I didn't get the chance to 550 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:47.119 get its name, so I cannot really explain what's in there. 551 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.559 Like let's say a big soup of a lot of stuff, 552 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.400 I cannot read explain what's in there. If you cannot 553 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.799 do it, then again you cannot get the thing, like 554 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.960 I cannot go to Uber Eats and just search for 555 00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:59.519 it because I don't know what it is. Like I 556 00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.440 can have the image, but I cannot search for it. Right, 557 00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.799 you need the descriptions, let's say, so as we're going 558 00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:09.119 to see as well. The middle column, so this one, 559 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:12.240 the yng yang, the yellow, the purple one, the one here. 560 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.799 They're always going to be about synthesizing things. The right 561 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.960 column is always going to be about expanding things, and 562 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:24.640 the left column always about contracting, like bringing order from 563 00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:31.119 bringing order from the chaos. Okay, so these three again 564 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:34.359 are the super still abstract. It's just stuff in your head, 565 00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.240 and you can see how that works because if you 566 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:40.519 go to YouTube, some of you are watching it through 567 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:44.039 YouTube right now. Think about how many seconds do you 568 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:48.839 see for ads? It's like five seconds tops most of 569 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.880 the times, not really that much, but they pay a 570 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:55.240 huge amount of cash for that. So why would they 571 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.440 pay a huge amount of cash just for five seconds 572 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:01.680 of your time? Have you seen something again? You start 573 00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:04.680 seeing it, it already becomes a possibility. If you never 574 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.680 saw a brand in your life, you don't know it exists, 575 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.359 it's going to be much less likely that are going 576 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.920 to buy from them. If you start seeing them and 577 00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:15.880 they are with the sounds explaining the stuff to you, 578 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:19.519 making sure you feel something again, it becomes more real. 579 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.000 It becomes a bigger possibility that that thing will actually 580 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.160 that you actually want to buy it or do whatever 581 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:31.519 the ad is telling you to do. Right again, as 582 00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.119 we when I come down here, now there's a portal, 583 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:36.680 and I say it's a portal because here again it 584 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.279 was to astract too. You cannot touch it, you know, 585 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.160 But here's when things start to become a little bit 586 00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.200 more concrete. So this portal, or if you're the ying yang, 587 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.839 would be when we express things so for example, easiest 588 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:56.799 way just get paper pencil and write it down for example, 589 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.759 or draw it, or dance or again talk about it, 590 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.759 or go into an app and press the buttons. Just 591 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.880 express it again. You're bringing it from the abstract desire 592 00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:15.920 kind of form boards into actual reality here now, so 593 00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:20.400 expressing it again can be anyway. If I'm gonna eat something, 594 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.640 that could be the again the going to uber eats 595 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.799 and you know, pressing some much as oh I really 596 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:31.119 want this one. Okay, as that go, we have we 597 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.920 are now with the blues here right here, this is 598 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.279 where we should we We're probably again expanding things, so 599 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.799 we are going to see all the good things about 600 00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.200 what I'm doing. So if I'm going to eat something, 601 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.640 well it's probably gonna be tasty or it's gonna be 602 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.200 healthy for me. Again, there's gonna be there has to 603 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.960 be qualities for it, otherwise you're not gonna do it, 604 00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.720 Like would you eat rocks? And I guess one person 605 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.839 my rocks are saying, I don't know, maybe they liked it, 606 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.720 but most people wouldn't like the idea of eating rocks. 607 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.240 Like why you know, there's no point so it already 608 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.599 gets blocked here and you don't go for it. So 609 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.519 this is again where all the good feelings about the 610 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.559 thing that you need come, and they should be as 611 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.759 hard as like, as big as ash, as hard as 612 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:19.039 possible for the things to come more powerful, more powerfully too. 613 00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.680 So again expanding, as we expand it here we now 614 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.079 need to contract. So the reds here is going to 615 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.960 be more less the opposite, so you are going to 616 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:34.240 see all the let's say negative sides or the discipline 617 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.759 that you need to get that thing. Like I want 618 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:39.799 to eat that thing, but it's it costs money. You 619 00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.960 cannot just grab it, you know, the thing that you're 620 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.559 trying to eat. Maybe it's going to require you. If 621 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:47.160 it's like a fast food kind of thing that you 622 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.720 really like, it's going to fuck up your health. So 623 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:54.359 again it's like supposed to there must be some discipline. 624 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.960 Another example, if you want to get apps like huge apps, right, 625 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:02.640 you need to work for it. There's no thing without 626 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.640 the action that the discipline. This would be for eximple mars. 627 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.960 So again the action we are in a Mars thing. 628 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:08.200 Right. 629 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:13.079 So again good feelings not necessarily the best feelings. And 630 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.119 the thing about this is prob is that again it 631 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.640 has to come into synthesis. So if you have if 632 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:21.960 there are so many cons to the thing that you're 633 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.680 trying to do, maybe don't do it. You know, Let's 634 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.599 say you're thinking about, I don't know, quitting your job, 635 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.799 and then you see, oh, yeah, but I won't have 636 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.680 money for this. I'll have this trouble, that trouble, I'll 637 00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:35.799 have the Okay, maybe don't do it right now, Maybe 638 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.720 think about another way off again, as we're going to 639 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.880 come down here to the yellows here, how can I 640 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.680 balance that? How can I make sure the pros and 641 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.960 cons are balanced? How can I make sure that the 642 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:50.200 thing that I'm doing is beautiful, it is harmonized. This 643 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.920 is the most This is the fear that sits at 644 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.319 the center. As you can see, most fears connect to it. 645 00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:57.720 It would be the sun and the strology, if you 646 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.279 want to make the correspondence. So again, it's where we 647 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:04.000 make sure things is like very nicely done. And if 648 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.079 it's not beautiful, if it's not harmonized, again, you probably 649 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.960 shouldn't do it. It's not going to be a nice experience. 650 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:10.880 Okay. 651 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.880 So now we went through the top heers again wanting 652 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.519 being able to see it, having the image in your 653 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.480 head with the most senses being able to explain it. 654 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:26.359 So again, light becoming sound, being able to explain it, 655 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:32.680 expressing it through most simple way, paper and a pencil, 656 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.799 just writing it down. That's where all of the again 657 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:40.480 the self help book to talk about. Oh keep you know, 658 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.960 writing your intentions down and so on. They're working with 659 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.880 that sphere. Cool, you have others herees to work with 660 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.759 as well. Then we get into the feelings. So how 661 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.240 good what are the good feelings the good things that 662 00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.960 you are going to get from the thing, whether than 663 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.279 maybe not so good feelings. That the discipline you need 664 00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.960 to get that thing going? Then again, how can I 665 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.880 harmonize both and make sure that thing is beautiful and nice? 666 00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.599 Cool the next year? The green one right here is 667 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:11.119 where a lot of people fail. So here you're supposed 668 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:16.360 to control your emotions. You're supposed to achieve victory through silence. 669 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.000 Shut up about it, man, If you want a new job, 670 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.480 don't go telling people that you're going to go for 671 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.599 the new job. Like most people, to be honest, they 672 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.559 don't really care, even if they are close to you, 673 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.679 like family, friends as want, they don't really really care 674 00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.400 about stuff. Or if they do. They have their own 675 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.039 limitations that now because you shared, they're going to interact 676 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.360 with the thing. So pretty simple. Example, you're a kid 677 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:40.800 and then you say, oh, I want to be a 678 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:42.599 rock star when I grow up, and you say it 679 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.079 out loud, right to other people, your dad is going 680 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.360 to be like god, you know, shut up. Just go 681 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.119 working on a farm or whatever, go work in an office. 682 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.239 It's like, again, it's not that he's gonna he's going 683 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.559 against you necessarily, but it's just he doesn't have the 684 00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:59.199 same vision that you have. You already have the one. 685 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:00.960 You can see your stuff as a rock star, you 686 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.360 can understand it. You have all the good feelings, you 687 00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.760 know the discipline, and when it comes to here you 688 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.519 talk to your that for example, about it. He projects 689 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.000 his own insecurities or his own limitations into you. And 690 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.599 now most people will get like turned off and say, yeah, yeah, 691 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.360 you're right. I'm going to do some other stuff and 692 00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:22.360 you're not going to manifest it. So again, shut up, man, 693 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.559 nobody needs to know. After you do it. Sure share, 694 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.559 you know, it's cool, it's cool to share. This would 695 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.039 be the blues here, you know, share the good feelings 696 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.199 with other people. But as you're going through stuff trying 697 00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.800 to keep it to yourself. You really don't earn anything, 698 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.400 like you don't need the validation that you're supposed to 699 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.800 be getting, like the dopamine that you're getting from talking 700 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.440 to people. What you're going to do, it's not worth 701 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:46.840 it because then you're not going to do the thing, 702 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.599 So just keep it to yourself. Again, this is the 703 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.119 emotional control. Then we will go to the left side 704 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.320 here to the orange here, and that would be the 705 00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.239 rational control. So this is where we're going to the 706 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.599 last connection of thoughts, making sure everything's tidy up. An 707 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.719 example would be having a contract, like contracts are being 708 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.360 made here. Okay, so you can make this for yourself. 709 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.119 If you're trying to manifest something, you can like grab 710 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.119 a piece of paper, go through each of the spheares 711 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.119 as I was talking about, and then when you come 712 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:19.880 down here you literally write a contract with yourself and 713 00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.719 let's say the universe or God or whatever you believe, 714 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.880 and then write it down exactly, very precisely what you want. 715 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.880 This is again the rational control. The last like reasoning 716 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.880 is about the things that you need and one, as always, 717 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.960 we need to synthesize stuff. So emotional control, rational control. 718 00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.920 When we get to the purpose here. Also, a lot 719 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.079 of people fail here because this is where we should 720 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:48.039 see the foundation of what you're trying to build. When 721 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.840 we bring it to yourself, it's like, do I feel 722 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.440 like I'm worthy of doing that? Again, if I don't 723 00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.159 feel that I'm worthy, you're not going to get it 724 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.039 because you're going to sabotage. If you want to, you know, 725 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:05.000 have a ten k ten k a month business, but 726 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:06.800 you don't feel like you're worthy, you're not gonna be 727 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.079 able to invoice people because you're not gonna do it, 728 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.159 or you're gonna do it, and then you're gonna think, 729 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:13.400 but it's not the thing, and then the guy's like 730 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.280 gonna pay half and you're gonna say, oh, it's okay, 731 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.800 and so no, man, if you feel like you're worthy, 732 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.519 you're not like no questions asked, Yeah, sure, I'll invoice 733 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.159 ten k tiny k doesn't matter. Again, if you don't 734 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:24.679 feel like you're worthy, you're not going to go after 735 00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:29.079 that that chick or man or whatever that you want, 736 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.079 because again, it don't feel like you're worthy. You see 737 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.159 yourself like, oh no, I'm not worth that thing. So 738 00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:35.119 you're not gonna do it. You don't see you don't 739 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.000 you don't feel the foundation required for the thing. 740 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.880 You know what's really interesting, And I'll even put this 741 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:42.880 out there, you'll throw it all myself. I don't give 742 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.159 a shit how it makes me sound. These even stuff 743 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:47.079 like in my personal life, things that have gone on 744 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.280 that has actually made it almost paralyzing for me to 745 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.119 even do the podcast because of I guess, like my 746 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:53.800 own shit going on my own head or my own 747 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:55.719 self worth. I was just like, I can't even fucking 748 00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:59.679 show my face podcasting, as crazy as it sounds, but 749 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.159 I see what you're getting at. It is I have 750 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.760 had my own self worth or even just my own 751 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.559 idea of self and just shit going on inside my 752 00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.800 head that will make me doubt and stop doing other 753 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.960 things possibly. I mean, obviously the show is still going, 754 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.199 so I haven't allowed it to do that. But that's 755 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:17.960 a good thing about being an alchemist. You can take 756 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:21.559 you know, hate, fear and other emotions and turn it 757 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:25.840 into something instant, which will be which is podcasts for me. 758 00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:30.440 So sorry, I'm just gonna sneak in again, but I 759 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:30.800 want to. 760 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.039 I just want to echo what Nick said, like Matt 761 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:35.760 knows that I've done this like I will have had 762 00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.719 my own trials and tribulations where I self doubted, and 763 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.119 it is it is is up the skill. It's to 764 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.639 the skill of the magician. It's up to you to 765 00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.599 change it, it's up to you to transform it, and 766 00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:50.440 it's up to you to alchemize it. So if Matt 767 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.199 is really good at that, he's given me a lot 768 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.679 of good tools to sort of just think about in 769 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:56.599 simple frameworks, like very simple. 770 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.280 I just you know, just ways of thinking, just. 771 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.079 Ways of thinking. So I just want to say that 772 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:06.320 that I don't think it's an uncommon experience. People you know, 773 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.800 put their own clipless. 774 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:15.400 Before themselves exactly as I look. Man, I can give 775 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.719 an example. So I was helping this like through a 776 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:21.960 friend of mine that they were helping already, this woman 777 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.599 trying to get some money because she fucked up some 778 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:26.719 stuff and so wan she wanted the money, and then 779 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.119 she hired them to make magic to get the money. 780 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:30.480 Right. 781 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.519 So again, if you're hiring someone to make magic to 782 00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:37.039 get money, you expect the thing to come to you magically, 783 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.559 I would assume. But then she sent a voice clip 784 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:42.519 to them saying, yeah, but you know, money doesn't come 785 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.400 from trees or like money doesn't come from the air, 786 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.079 And I'm like, you're a magician, Like that's supposed to 787 00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.079 be the point that it comes from the air, it 788 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.800 comes from whatever. You're not gonna expect it. But if 789 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.639 she already used that way that it's not going to 790 00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:00.159 come easy, then guess what it's not going to come like, 791 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.280 she's not going to do the things required for the 792 00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:09.559 thing to come. And what things imagination, thoughts, feelings, and emotions. 793 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:12.360 I'm going to explain them in more detail, but that's it. 794 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:17.159 So if you do feel the worthy, if the thing 795 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.639 has a foundation, so for example, in a company, this 796 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.800 would be where you do the Q and A the 797 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.639 Q and a no, sorry, the QA. So the quality assurance, 798 00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.440 so basically making sure, okay, the thing is like tidy up, 799 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:32.599 can I can package it? It's ready to be packaged. Okay. 800 00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:37.599 When that's done, you get into the end of the rainbow, 801 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:39.119 the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. 802 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.679 So that's here, the last one with the four callers. 803 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.199 That would be the thing actually being materialized. As you 804 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.199 saw again, it started as this kind of ethereal kind 805 00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.840 of you know, abstract thing it's just in my head, 806 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:56.880 and then it comes down as feelings, thoughts, and then 807 00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.840 emotions like things emotion. When they say emotion, think about 808 00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:03.480 your body when the thing actually comes into your cells 809 00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.760 and you start doing things. So the actions again emotion. 810 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:11.519 The thing is in motion, you're doing stuff, so as 811 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:13.559 it came down here, the thing is done. That's it. 812 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.440 One thing that we humans struggle with is that we 813 00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:20.119 need the evidence of things. 814 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:20.320 Right. 815 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.960 So if let's say, you can imagine the whole situation 816 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.159 coming together, but it's not there yet, Like if I 817 00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:29.679 can imagine thirty million dollars in my bank account or something, 818 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.400 but it's not there yet. If I go and open 819 00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:32.760 my bank account that it's not going to be there, 820 00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:38.119 well again you start dialing, you start creating problems here 821 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.679 in this year the purple one. But the thing is 822 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.519 things come before there's evidence. That's just how it goes. 823 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:49.079 It's and it's always like that, you know. So if again, 824 00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.000 if you want to eat something, you don't eat the 825 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.440 thing until you're eating it, but you're already having the things, 826 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.079 You're already making everything for it to happen before it's there. 827 00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.760 Only when you actually go and eat that thing's there, 828 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.599 but you don't stop. For example, I don't go to uber, 829 00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:04.280 I ask for the thing, and then I keep thinking 830 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.280 to myself, Oh is it coming? Is it coming? Like 831 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.880 it's gonna come? Or if I cook something, right, I'm 832 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.119 cooking it. I'm not gonna be expecting Oh is it 833 00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.599 gonna be ready? Like, yeah, it's gonna be ready. Ye, 834 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.559 at some point it's gonna be ready. Just wait, you know, relax. 835 00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:22.119 So that's the point here. The it may seem, oh, 836 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.440 it's so abstracting one, but when you actually stop to 837 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.360 think about you are doing this constantly. Again, doesn't matter 838 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:28.760 if you like it or not, if you believe it 839 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.000 or not. We are doing this, sometimes not necessarily in 840 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.519 this order, which is also why not necessarily comes in 841 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.480 the best way, to be honest. But it's just where 842 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.519 it goes. So that's the top down, that's how we 843 00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:45.880 materialize things. I can explain how the bottom up, which 844 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.800 would be how can we get let's say, how can 845 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.039 we become masters into things? And I guess that would 846 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:55.679 help the people saying that they don't know exactly what 847 00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.880 they want, because we start again from the bottom. So 848 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.840 you don't need to want something. You start from the 849 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:05.719 actions that you're taking, unless they can origin have something 850 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.679 to think otherwise. 851 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:11.440 It can go on. Oh continue, sir, I have a 852 00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:13.719 quick question. I have a question for you, Matt. 853 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:18.480 So I know you gave your example of like manifesting 854 00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:22.039 something to eat from desire, So, in your opinion, is 855 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.320 the sort of cause of formation you can call it desire? 856 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:25.559 Is that? 857 00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.440 Or if I'm wrong you can correct me. I'm asking you, like, 858 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.239 is desire sort of the thing that roots us into 859 00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:33.000 the material world? 860 00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:38.400 I would say will instead of desire, But it's hard 861 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.519 to differentiate them, right, I'll say that the will is 862 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:47.360 sometimes something that is even above us. When you say desire, 863 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.480 I think of like the body, you know, the body 864 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.280 wanting something, and that can be true as well, But 865 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.239 the will would be something bigger because that's the thing 866 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.920 as well, magic ball and so on. It in theory 867 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.519 it works for anything. I mean not in theory it 868 00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:07.280 works for anything. But sometimes you gotta remember that you're 869 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.840 not the only one creating things. So imagine if you 870 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:13.119 want to go always green in the like the red lights, 871 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.239 you know, the stoplights, you want yours to be always green. Well, 872 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.639 guess what the guys from the other side also wants 873 00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:20.840 it always to be green. So if you all go 874 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.159 like at some point one of you will be read, 875 00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.920 you're gonna get crash. So we gotta understand there's like 876 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.159 time into things, and sometimes you're again supposed to be 877 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:36.000 the will right the highest want. I guess yes, because 878 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.800 then it's not necessarily about the character. It's not about 879 00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:41.679 what Matt wants, about what Gin wants. Sometimes it's about 880 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:47.440 what the whole thing wants. That's why again, when you 881 00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:51.239 see all those movies promoting an agenda or like Politician whatever, 882 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.480 anyone promoting something, they need to promote it because they 883 00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:58.639 need people to even if it's just subconsciously want that thing, 884 00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:00.599 people don't want it not going to happen. 885 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.280 Huge. One thing I do want to add in it 886 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.840 was something you were saying before, Matt, and I kind 887 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.199 of lost the reason why I wanted to bring it up. 888 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.239 I think it was like kind of like saying that, 889 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.360 like it's almost like you have to know something exists 890 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.760 to even entertain it, you know what I'm saying. And 891 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.519 I even feel like, you know, I don't want to 892 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:26.480 get too far off, but like sometimes people in my opinion, 893 00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:29.599 like if you don't know something exists, you can't even 894 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.159 identify as it like you have to be given the 895 00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:35.800 option or given the idea to even take it on. 896 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:38.679 You know what I'm saying very much like what you're 897 00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:44.159 saying here exactly. So it's like, for example, AI, we're 898 00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:47.320 seeing it right now to do like as a public general, 899 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:49.880 everyone knows about it. But if you look back, there 900 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.559 were movies back in the nineties. I guess I don't 901 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:55.559 know about the eighties, but like back in the nineties 902 00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.800 there was already movies about this kind of stuff. So 903 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:02.719 it has to be already and uh like people's minds, 904 00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.800 otherwise it doesn't come or something to sorry go on, no, 905 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.800 go ahead, go ahead. I was gonna say for something 906 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.960 to come as we solve right here. There's a lot 907 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.119 of steps. So for example, it needs funding. People need 908 00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:18.199 to pay for stuff. That's a lot of time. It's 909 00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.880 going to be here or here. So if people don't 910 00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:23.719 don't even know something exists, they cannot pay for it. 911 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:26.400 If people don't know something exists, they cannot talk about it, 912 00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:28.880 they cannot share it, they cannot you know. So they 913 00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.320 need to to know, they need to know about it. 914 00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:33.639 They need to think that it's good for them or 915 00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.079 good for the environment, whatever they need to think it's 916 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.400 good for someone. So so there's a lot of you know, 917 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:41.960 things that play into it. But if they don't know it, 918 00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:48.000 it's never gonna come. So as it goes, I'll say, 919 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:52.480 then that's why we need to be very aware of 920 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.440 what we want, especially when we get to understand how 921 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.639 powerful we are. You know, I guess that's why there 922 00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.639 is like I'm not the type of person to say, oh, 923 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.960 you know, society everyone should be like anarchists whatever, there's 924 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.079 there should be no morals that everyone does whatever they want. 925 00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.239 I guess if that's the case, the world is just 926 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:15.519 was just gonna explode like in a second. You know, 927 00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.920 there must be some kind of like let's say ward 928 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:25.840 rails just so understand perfect so you get to understand 929 00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.760 how it goes, or even think about time. Time prevents 930 00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.119 us from getting getting the things instantly. So in theory, 931 00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:35.599 I could use kabala to manifest like a bar of 932 00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:38.000 gold in my hand right here, like right now, like 933 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.760 two bar of gold appears. But then imagine if that's 934 00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.079 the thing. Also, if I have like an everybody has 935 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.679 that if they say they don't they're lying. Has those 936 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:50.119 kind of weird thoughts that come sometimes, like you're driving 937 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.360 and like, oh what if I you know, go in 938 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.320 like and run over that person, or like, you know, 939 00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:59.599 some crazy stuff that you don't know where it comes from. 940 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.440 I'm just saying exactly. So imagine if you had. 941 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:08.800 That drive down south and kill a few people exactly like, it. 942 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:11.000 Would be crazy. So it's good that we have time. 943 00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:12.960 You know a lot of people like to shit on 944 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.159 Saturn colonels, which would be the black one here. But 945 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:21.000 he's cool, man, he helps us, you know, So again, 946 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.000 know what you want, be aware, be aware, and go 947 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.119 I'd say, very good exercises going back to your roots, 948 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.559 you know, going back to who you are or who 949 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.599 you think you are, who your family is, your country, 950 00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:37.159 like the things that created you basically, and you're going 951 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:38.880 to see a lot of stuff like oh okay, that's 952 00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:41.280 why I think that way. I can give an example, 953 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.599 right for some reason, now I understand it, but before 954 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:48.519 I didn't. For some reason. I remember being like thirteen 955 00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:51.320 or or twelve or something and thinking to myself, man, 956 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.480 I want I'd never want to work at an office job. 957 00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:56.239 I can never want to work in an office job, 958 00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:00.159 like twelve. At the moment, I didn't necessarily know from 959 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.760 where that came, and even like till much later, like 960 00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.519 when I was nineteen twenty or whatever. But then I 961 00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.159 rewatched The Matrix a couple of years ago, and then 962 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.400 I realized, like it came to me because I was 963 00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:13.760 thinking about it, right, I was trying to get the answer, 964 00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.239 it came to me. Like in The Matrix Neo, so 965 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.480 the protagonist is basically working at an office job and 966 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:22.360 like he's being chased and swanning. He has to get 967 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:24.360 out of the Matrix, and so it's all about again 968 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.400 the hero's journey he's going through and where he starts. 969 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:33.639 The the problem place is the the office. So I 970 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.559 kind of just had it in my head and I'm like, oh, okay, 971 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.800 what the fuck like? And then I can decide if 972 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:39.480 that's a good thing for me to wonder or not, 973 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.039 because then I realized, Okay, it's not necessarily that bad 974 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.400 if you can play around it, if you can play 975 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:48.280 around all the politics stuff, and it's good, it's okay, 976 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.039 you know. So again, if I may continue here, I 977 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:53.320 can go from the bottom up. 978 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:54.039 Go for it. 979 00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:56.719 So I just want to say one really quick thing. 980 00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:57.519 I'm apologize. 981 00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.960 I'm trying not to, but I just want to say 982 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:01.760 thank you for saying that, Matt, because I think it's 983 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:03.480 a very very important distinction. 984 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:05.000 Will and desire. 985 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.480 They are not the same thing, and it's often something 986 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.880 that we you and I discussed and obviously the rest 987 00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:11.599 of us all discuss when we do the show. 988 00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:13.880 But it's a really important distinction. 989 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.559 And I wish someone had told me at twenty or whatever, 990 00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:20.440 seventeen use magic number, but there is actually a difference, 991 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.360 and it's a fundamental difference, and it's really important to 992 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:28.800 like in yourself, in yourself able to distinguish the two 993 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.239 because only one's going to carry you forward and the 994 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.960 other one is going to hinder or obstincally you you. 995 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.760 Know, you totally with you Jin and you know, I 996 00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.880 think it's a loop that too many magicians get into 997 00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.480 to where when they're doing shadow work, do you think 998 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.800 they're doing their will, but they're actually just feeding lust. 999 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:48.079 Exactly. 1000 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:52.480 So you need a clear communication with your whatever you're 1001 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.920 going to call it, a holy angel like greater Self, 1002 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.920 higher Self, what everyone called, doesn't matter the name. You 1003 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.760 need a clear communication otherwise, yeah, they're just gonna do 1004 00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:11.320 stupid shit and think you're you're the divice. So okay, 1005 00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.280 if we go from the bottom up, what's the idea, 1006 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.119 the idea that you start here? You're in the mundane world. 1007 00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.599 Let's say you want to try to learn to play violin. Okay, 1008 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.119 you're here. You don't know nothing. You're just a general 1009 00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:27.559 dude or a girl. You know nothing. 1010 00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:27.920 You're here. 1011 00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.960 First thing you need to do. If're gonna learn something, 1012 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.639 you're gonna become a master in something. So you need 1013 00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:39.119 to understand or sorry, not understand. You need to check 1014 00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:43.800 out many different masters. That's the moon here. You're going 1015 00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.639 to see the reflection of what you like, which is 1016 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:49.800 going to be top top here. I'm going to get 1017 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:53.079 to it in other people. What do I mean by that? Again, 1018 00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:54.960 that's suppose you want to learn the violin. You're gonna 1019 00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.599 look for the first guy and they're gonna say, yeah, okay, 1020 00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:59.800 I kind of like them, I didn't like that much. 1021 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:01.880 And then you're going to see another guy. Oh, this 1022 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.800 one definitely like the way the style he plays. Then 1023 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.079 you're going to see another one is going to be 1024 00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:08.679 that's crazy, I want to play like that dude. So 1025 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.559 you're gonna have to you know, see many different masters 1026 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:15.440 some would say one hundred and eight for example, you'd 1027 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:17.599 see many different people doing the thing that you want 1028 00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:19.760 to do as well, and then you're going to understand, oh, 1029 00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:21.039 this is more or less what I like what I 1030 00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.840 don't like in swan. That's the first step. Second step 1031 00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:30.760 is going to be the technical learning, like the technical 1032 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:32.519 bits of let's say you want to play the violin. 1033 00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:34.719 You want to you have to learn about music theory. 1034 00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.119 You have to learn how to actually pick up the thing, 1035 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.920 and like what each card does, and watch what each 1036 00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:41.960 chard is and so on. So there's a lot of 1037 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.559 technical titbits that you need to learn first before you 1038 00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:51.599 start to practice. So again, this would be the green sphere. Actually, 1039 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.480 let me really quickly. I think I have an image 1040 00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.880 which with the labels it would be even easier to 1041 00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.320 explain this process. 1042 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.719 One second, Jan, have you ever seen I don't know 1043 00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:05.119 if it's like a real thing or if it's like 1044 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.239 some fan fiction thing, but there is like some jet 1045 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:11.400 I think it's japan animation character Cold Netsuck and it's 1046 00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:12.559 a chick and she wears all green. 1047 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.480 Look, there are so many Matt has heard me, and 1048 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.360 I've heard Matt discussed this as well, but Matt has 1049 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:24.119 heard me discuss this many many times, not the specific example, 1050 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.880 but just the amount of kamala or couple lot in 1051 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.039 animation's ridiculous. 1052 00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.320 It is unbelievable. 1053 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.119 I wish I like this stuff more. I cover it 1054 00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:37.920 more because there is tons of shit in there. 1055 00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:40.880 And they use a lot of gnostic ideas like very 1056 00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.639 yeah kind of oto or like Kenneth Grand style narcissism. 1057 00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.440 Yeah, they do. The people tend to look at that stuff. 1058 00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:53.440 As if the Mongakas or the whomever are not agential 1059 00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:56.760 in their kind of will and mind. Those people are 1060 00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:00.360 reading things like whether they're reading like an in production 1061 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:03.800 to Taro and they're just like drawing sort of the 1062 00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.760 Kabbalistic themes because it's all there. It's all there in 1063 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.199 the images. So if someone is like maybe open in 1064 00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:13.320 their consciousness, they could probably get it just from Taro. 1065 00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:14.400 I think that. 1066 00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:16.840 I don't even think Crowley or anyone else would disagree 1067 00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:20.320 with me. I think that the more profound understanding, though, 1068 00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:23.239 is like as what that said, it comes true like 1069 00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:26.159 that kind of like tradition, like kind of past long 1070 00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:29.639 term initiation. So I think that that's where that would lack, 1071 00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:33.280 but I think that you're applying it to a broader idea. 1072 00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:35.639 So a lot of people in Japan actually know certain 1073 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:37.880 kinds of Buddhist meditation. That doesn't mean they all do it, 1074 00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.679 but they have Buddhist ideas. I've called it cultural dharma before, 1075 00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:46.199 where it's just kind of embedded in everything. So in 1076 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:50.280 a society like that, yeah, I think potentially you could 1077 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.320 say that people are able to access more of the 1078 00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:57.159 maybe not the deepest layer, but maybe the inner teaching 1079 00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:59.519 layer of the sufferer very easily. 1080 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.239 And so it comes out of course. 1081 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:06.239 Because art, writing, and magic, those are all the same thing, 1082 00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:09.239 and they correlate to each other like one to one, 1083 00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.679 so you know, so I think it's all there. And 1084 00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:15.000 I think Sailorman's a great example. I think there's a 1085 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.079 miracle girl tena card captor Sakra. I mean she captures 1086 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.760 seventy two of the cards and they're all you know, 1087 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:25.960 they're they're called the cloud cards, and she has this 1088 00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:29.159 little demon who looks like a lion, and I mean, 1089 00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.639 it's all there. It's all there, like they know, they 1090 00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:35.960 know it's all hermoneutics anyways, So I'm sorry, I apologize, Matt, 1091 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:39.599 And it's a very exciting and a fruitful conversation, and. 1092 00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:42.760 I know Matt can take it from here exactly. No, 1093 00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:43.639 I love it. I love it. 1094 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.079 That's that's how I see it as well. Even on music, 1095 00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:48.159 like a lot of times if you pay attention to 1096 00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:51.320 the lyrics, what they're talking about, or how they present themselves. 1097 00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:55.079 Like I go to concerts often, and I like going 1098 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:58.119 to them a lot because they play with everything. They 1099 00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:01.519 play with the sounds, the just sure's the lights and 1100 00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:03.679 you know, all the involvement of the crowd and so 1101 00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:06.280 and so. There's a lot of stuff. And yeah, it's 1102 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.800 all there. I mean, that's the thing. If you believe 1103 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:10.679 it or not, if you want it or not, if 1104 00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.360 you like it or not, that's how it goes. I cannot, 1105 00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.760 like I try sometimes to, you know, try to get 1106 00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:18.760 out of the system and say like, oh I cannot, 1107 00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:22.159 I cannot seek about here. But it's it's greater than me, 1108 00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.400 you know, I can see it. It's right there. It's obvious, 1109 00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:29.079 you know. So it's so funny. And yeah with Enemy 1110 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:31.920 especially like there's from the top of my head, there's Evangelion, 1111 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:37.159 with the they show thee there there is Full Metal 1112 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:41.119 Alchemists there's black Clover, that is Naruto, there's dragon Ball, 1113 00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:44.360 there is like one piece, there's like all of them. 1114 00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.440 Really you start to see all of them kind of 1115 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.880 have If it's not that's the thing. If it's not 1116 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.159 the full system that they are showing, they're showing part 1117 00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:56.159 of the system. And that's what at least the initiation 1118 00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:58.400 that I got into try to do, like if you're 1119 00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.559 not if you're if you see a system and you 1120 00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:03.639 use the that tree of life that I was showing 1121 00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:06.320 to try to understand it. Maybe that system is not 1122 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.039 going to be complete, maybe it's going to be you know, 1123 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:10.440 two three spheres or something, but it's going to be there. 1124 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:12.920 It has to be there, and that's how it goes. 1125 00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:18.000 So as we are going up, like I was saying, 1126 00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:21.360 first you're down here, you know, you're in your body 1127 00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:24.039 and you want to do something. Okay, then you need 1128 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.239 to kind of perceive. You need a perception and to 1129 00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:31.039 perceive how do I like that guy to that other guy? 1130 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:36.760 Like you need examples. Again, you cannot do something from uh, 1131 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:39.079 from nothing, like if you don't have it in your head. 1132 00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:42.159 I used to remember when I first started learning how 1133 00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.280 to code, that I had this thing where I thought 1134 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:48.079 to myself, Oh, I won't like copy someone else's code 1135 00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:50.960 and so on. But then I realized, Man, if I 1136 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:52.679 don't copy, I don't know how to do like I 1137 00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.559 never did it. How can I come up, you know, 1138 00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.199 from from my brain? I need some kind of example, 1139 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.440 don't then example example doesn't necessarily have to be in 1140 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.360 a serial life, Like you can actually go places one, 1141 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:05.800 but you need to see from somewhere. You need to 1142 00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:08.159 get from somewhere, kind of mirrored. 1143 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:09.079 In the blueprints. 1144 00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:11.679 I think Nick has talked about this before, like the 1145 00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:14.639 blueprints are so important, and you've talked about this too. 1146 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:17.960 Matt, and so, yeah, you need to have the architecture. 1147 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.599 I know we talk about freemasons sometimes it's not so 1148 00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.199 much anymore, but you know, it's an interesting idea that 1149 00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.000 like they have the ability to build it because they 1150 00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:29.320 are builders, or at least they think of themselves as 1151 00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:32.320 the builders. And if you think of it yourself as something, 1152 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:36.000 perhaps you can become that thing exactly. 1153 00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.400 So actually it's a very nice example the Freemasons that 1154 00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:43.480 can share this very quickly. So one way to understand 1155 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:48.360 it is also again the chakra system obviously has to 1156 00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:52.119 be here as well. In dependent on which checker system 1157 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.599 that you're using. I'm going to use the one to 1158 00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:56.880 the most general one that a lot of people know, 1159 00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:00.519 the seven to one seventh checker one based on as well. 1160 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.440 So for example, you can place the chakras on the tree, which, 1161 00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.559 if we remember, the tree is supposed to be also 1162 00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:12.000 our body. So this is the crown, our head, our shoulders, 1163 00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:14.079 and so on and so forth. This is our feet 1164 00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:18.199 or our little hole, if you know what I mean. 1165 00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:21.760 And so basically it's it's our body. So as you 1166 00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:25.280 understand it this way, you can place the chakras by 1167 00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:27.920 their position. So for example, this would be the root chakra, 1168 00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:32.679 then you go into the sacral chakra and so on, 1169 00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:36.400 like it goes up or by the collars, so root chakra, 1170 00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:43.599 sacred chakra, solar plexus chakra, hard chakra, throat through chakra yes, 1171 00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:47.159 and so on and so forth. Now talking about the Masons, 1172 00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:52.639 we have the contacts and the square right, so we 1173 00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:56.480 have the three on top, three chakras on top, which 1174 00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.719 are gonna create the image again. They're gonna draw the 1175 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.440 image again. They're gonna draw the image, and the square 1176 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:06.719 in the bottom is going to adjust that to make 1177 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.440 sure it comes again. It's kind of just that kind 1178 01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:11.920 of being ordered the thing to make sure it comes. 1179 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.679 And then the g in the middle. You're geometrizing that 1180 01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:18.880 you're you're creating that you're there's like the geometry behind it. 1181 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:23.679 When while I'm speaking to you guys, there's a geometry 1182 01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.519 on the frequency of the sound that I'm speaking. That's 1183 01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:28.920 why you can sing beautifully or you can sing not 1184 01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:31.159 in tune. Like there's a whole geometry behind the thing. 1185 01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:33.280 If you learn music theory, you're going to see that 1186 01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:36.960 the good notes, that the notes that when played together 1187 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.840 they sound good, they have a geometry between them. Good 1188 01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:44.079 colors they have a geometry between them. That's why again 1189 01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:46.039 the even the colors in the tree, they are not 1190 01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.760 by occasion. There's a whole geometry in this thing, and 1191 01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:57.039 it works in all those ways. So again it's it's everywhere. 1192 01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:58.000 I just love it. 1193 01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:02.039 It's so cool. So I'll come to the going bottom up. 1194 01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.079 So we are aware, we have seen some examples. We 1195 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:10.000 studied technically about it, as I was talking about, then 1196 01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:13.039 becomes the practice. So it doesn't matter. You can study 1197 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.559 how to ride a bicycle all your life. If you 1198 01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:19.360 don't get sit into a bicycle and try it. You're 1199 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:20.719 not going to know how to do it. You're not 1200 01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:24.800 going to become good at it. Okay, And if someone 1201 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.039 goes and they're kind of good or ready, cool for them. 1202 01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:29.559 But to become a master, to become really someone that 1203 01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:33.599 will be remembered as the best bicycle driver ever, you 1204 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:38.000 need practice. You need to practice. There's no way. So again, Oh, 1205 01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:39.840 I want to learn something, but it doesn't feel like 1206 01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.679 I'm getting into it. How many times are you practicing it? 1207 01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.159 How nicely are you practicing it? Like are you practicing 1208 01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:49.199 for so many hours? But then you're not really practicing 1209 01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.320 the correct things. For example, if I'm trying to play 1210 01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.519 the guitar, what exactly are you practicing or just strumming 1211 01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:58.920 around like you know, So you need again to study 1212 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:03.840 them practice cool as we go up, you need to 1213 01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:07.840 understand what makes you unique into that thing. And that's why, 1214 01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:09.800 as I was talking about, I'm going to go back 1215 01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:13.079 to the with the colors, this is the moon. It 1216 01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:16.320 only has the reflection of the sun. The sun is you. 1217 01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:19.440 You're the center of the sphere. So this would be 1218 01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:22.360 where you understand. Oh, for example, if I'm going to 1219 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.639 play the guitar. That's the type of guitar playing that 1220 01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:28.519 I want to have. It's maybe flamenco with like the 1221 01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:32.920 the fingers I forgot how to how's the name for that? 1222 01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:35.440 Or I want to strum it like like a metal 1223 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:37.719 head and what like, doesn't matter. What's the style that 1224 01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:40.400 you were going to have which makes you unique, like 1225 01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:43.559 when people think about, oh, what does that guy do? 1226 01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.880 It's very specific. Otherwise, again, you're not going to become 1227 01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:52.159 a master. You're just some other dude. Per check as 1228 01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:54.599 we continue going, Now that you can achieve and by 1229 01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:56.400 the way, this is where you would become like a 1230 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:59.199 black belt in something which, as you can see, is 1231 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.000 not the and as far from the ends. That's just 1232 01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.679 the beginning. Actually, that's when you actually enter the thing 1233 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.519 for real. Like before that, it's just kind of filtering 1234 01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:10.159 out the people that are likely not going to finish it. 1235 01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:13.719 But here it's like, okay, this guy already put put 1236 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.880 some time into that thing, so he's getting it. Now. 1237 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:19.920 What you need again, discipline. You need to do that 1238 01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:23.119 thing over and over and over for years and years 1239 01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:27.000 and years and years. Otherwise it doesn't come like that's 1240 01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.559 to be honest, Before I learned all this kind of stuff. 1241 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.000 I used to think to myself, especially with coding, like oh, 1242 01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:35.199 why do they ask for so many years of experience 1243 01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:37.519 in one But now I understand because sometimes you can 1244 01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.679 be good technically. Again, you can have studied a bit 1245 01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:42.960 and practice is one. But if you don't have the 1246 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.599 discipline when you know should go through the fan, you 1247 01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:51.159 need someone that knows their thing. You need someone with experience, 1248 01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:54.360 and experience comes with time. That's just how it goes. 1249 01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.360 Doesn't necessarily mean that the time of your character is 1250 01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:02.639 the whole time. And here, yes I'm talking about multiple 1251 01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:04.480 lives and shit, so yes, your skill can be older 1252 01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.480 than that. But anyways, this character also needs time to 1253 01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:11.639 develop their stuff. Okay, especially if you don't have connection 1254 01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:13.719 with the best lives, So it doesn't really matter what 1255 01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:15.079 you did. If you don't have a connection with that 1256 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:22.199 cool discipline, then here the labels love cool. That's how 1257 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:24.519 you can explain it as well. Another way to explain 1258 01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.360 it is when you start sharing it again. Now you 1259 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.920 need to expand. So you learned you discipline, like you 1260 01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:33.400 you practice for so much, Now you need to share 1261 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:36.519 it with other people. That's the point, Like you don't 1262 01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:39.320 just learn and become good, just for you to become 1263 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:43.639 good also because by sharing, you are getting better as well, 1264 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:49.000 Like I've been able to grow a lot, for example, encoding, 1265 01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:52.760 just because I taught people and not because I'm good necessarily, 1266 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.159 just because well, if I practice a little bit and 1267 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:57.360 the person didn't practice nothing, I can help them get, 1268 01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.800 you know, closer, and if afterwards they go farther than me, 1269 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.280 perfect for them, good for them. I actually would like 1270 01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:05.760 that go as far as well as you can. But 1271 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:08.039 the I gear here is that when you share, you 1272 01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.760 are clashing the perceptions, You're clashing the points of view, 1273 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.360 and then you may learn something because maybe the person 1274 01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:19.320 doesn't understands the way that you're explaining so you need 1275 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:22.119 to find another way, or because they come up with 1276 01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:25.440 another way to understand it, and you get something from 1277 01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:27.039 that as well. So again it's all about the sharing. 1278 01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:34.000 After you did everything to this point, you hear they're 1279 01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:38.039 calling it contemplation, That would basically be again when you're 1280 01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:39.960 like super old or writing the thing. So think about 1281 01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:43.800 like like an ancient person are writing the thing. So 1282 01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:46.400 this again, I'm talking years and years and years. It's 1283 01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.000 going to be like the almost the top dog and 1284 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:51.199 the thing that are trying to practice. 1285 01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:51.360 Right. 1286 01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:53.920 So these three I'm not going to get super into them, 1287 01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:57.719 but basically they are when you are already becoming a 1288 01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:00.039 master and the kind of stuff that you're doing, so 1289 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.079 when you're gonna be known for that, it's like, oh, 1290 01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:06.519 that's the guy who does violent guitar whatever. It is 1291 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:10.280 like you really became like an example for others even 1292 01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:14.559 because just how good you are. Okay, and again, as 1293 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:16.920 you can see, we can play with the three I'm 1294 01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:21.480 gonna share now another version of three D version just 1295 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:24.360 to get into it as well. But basically you can play. 1296 01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:27.039 You can go top bottom, you can go bottom up, 1297 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:31.119 you can go from the sides like the echeing for example, 1298 01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:35.159 we have three there's like the trigrams. You have three 1299 01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:38.440 of them. Again, you have three columns. Just get the 1300 01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:41.400 tree and put it like this. Cool, you have each. 1301 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:44.800 You can play with the trigrams, you know it can 1302 01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:48.519 either connect them or separate them, it doesn't matter. You 1303 01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:53.039 can play around the stat structure. And I guess in 1304 01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:57.360 general that should already give a lot of room for 1305 01:06:57.480 --> 01:07:00.239 you guys to play with it. There's one thing I 1306 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:02.119 would like to explain, then, maybe we can go through 1307 01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:04.199 some questions or or I don't know, I can just 1308 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:08.360 go continue reaching. So the last thing that I want 1309 01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:12.000 to explain here is the idea of the four elements. 1310 01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:15.519 So I already kind of talked about them in no way. 1311 01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:19.880 So the four elements would be the fire, the imagination, 1312 01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:24.079 the will, so they are the same fire, imagination, and will, 1313 01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:29.119 water the feelings. So it's it's nicer to see it 1314 01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.199 in Portuguese. Or I think there is the same word 1315 01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:35.679 in English, but it's you don't use it often like sentiment. 1316 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:38.400 I guess it's it's a word in English as well, 1317 01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:42.960 But anyways, in Portuguese is stinkchy mint, which would be 1318 01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:47.599 thing which is feeling, and mental, which is the mind, 1319 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.280 mine mind, So it's you're feeling it with your mind. 1320 01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:54.239 So again you have the image of it. You can 1321 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:57.599 feel it with all the five senses, the most senses 1322 01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:01.760 in their best quality as you can. That's that's water. 1323 01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:06.400 Air would be the thoughts behind it, so again you 1324 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:08.679 can reason about it, you can understand it. Yeah, okay, 1325 01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:10.119 you can explain it, and so and so on, so 1326 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:15.360 the thoughts about it. And then finally earth, which is emotion, 1327 01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:19.760 so you're putting all those things that you're imagining, thinking about, 1328 01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:23.800 feeling and one into motion, okay, And that's how you 1329 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.560 create anything. That's how you create anything when that energy 1330 01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:31.239 comes from your imagination into your feelings, into your reasonings 1331 01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:34.279 and one and then to the cells of your body. 1332 01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:38.560 Like your body literally will start talking. That's the goal 1333 01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:41.880 of the stomach a lot of times. So it's gonna 1334 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.000 talk to all the cells, like, hey, dudes, the masters 1335 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:46.880 is talking to do this, Like he's talking for you 1336 01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:48.960 to drink waters. Go and drink water. He's talking to 1337 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:50.319 you to go to the gymp. Go to the gymp. 1338 01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:52.640 It's like you're talking to each other, you know, all 1339 01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:56.720 the cells. So that's the idea. You get something imagined, 1340 01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:59.399 you add all the senses to it, you add your 1341 01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:02.359 reasoning to it, you make it work nicely. There's logic 1342 01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:05.439 to the thing. It comes as an emotion, so you 1343 01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:09.199 actually go and do things eventually, and if you think 1344 01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.000 about it. That's there's the other way around as well. 1345 01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:14.840 So when you are you know, scrolling acts and then 1346 01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:18.960 you see some news that says about, you know, some 1347 01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:23.319 some bad stuff going on, it already hits you on 1348 01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:25.359 your emotion already hits you in your body, like, oh, 1349 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.439 that's not good, and then you start having thoughts and 1350 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.159 feelings about it, like, man, no, that's not good. You know, 1351 01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:33.760 I don't know indeed, and I was seeing an expert. 1352 01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:35.920 Now it seems like in the US there's some bas 1353 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.680 going on with the garnment or whatever. It's like, guys 1354 01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:41.399 are not working or whatever. You see that you're not 1355 01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:44.680 related to that. It's literally not gonna affect your life 1356 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:46.520 in a way any way possible. But you see that, 1357 01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:48.920 then you think it's gonna affect your life. You start 1358 01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:51.079 feeling about it. Then you start having imaginations about how 1359 01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:53.199 that's gonna, you know, tuck your life over and so 1360 01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:56.279 and so on. That's it. They just coballed you into 1361 01:09:56.359 --> 01:09:59.439 thinking that just because you saw it, and you pad 1362 01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:03.000 into whatever the thing on XPOS is telling you to 1363 01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:07.520 be fed into. So again, it goes both ways. And 1364 01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:10.079 if you don't understand, if you're not aware, you're not 1365 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:14.720 you know, alert, paying attention, you're just gonna get kabalaed 1366 01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:17.920 by people, over and over and over and over on 1367 01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:23.800 relationships at work, by your family, by the media, by everyone. Really, 1368 01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:25.760 like it's not that they are out to get you, 1369 01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:29.079 it's just how the game works. Like, as I'm talking here, 1370 01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:32.239 I'm combaling. Let's say I'm creating a new verb here. 1371 01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:36.479 I'm combaling everyone that's listening, unless they're saying, I know 1372 01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:39.000 this guy's bullshit. Okay, that's cool as well, like good 1373 01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:42.760 for you. That's the idea. We we talk and we understand. 1374 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.000 I'm not the owner of the truth. I'm just sharing 1375 01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:50.000 what works for me, and that's the idea. So I 1376 01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:52.359 don't know, maybe we have some questions. I was not 1377 01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:53.520 checking the chat. 1378 01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:59.680 Yeah, everybody has any questions, let me know, typeing in 1379 01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:00.840 the chat and I'll throw it up. 1380 01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:01.239 Uh. 1381 01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:03.479 One thing I did want to say before, and I 1382 01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:05.800 think I just didn't want to interrupt. You know, you 1383 01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:07.800 were talking about Tarot, and I saw people talking about 1384 01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:12.000 Tarot on the chat too. Taro and the Kabbala. You know, 1385 01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:14.199 it's funny how I had mentioned earlier that you know, 1386 01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:16.680 it took me a while to even get into the kabbala, 1387 01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:21.600 and same thing for the Taro. There was probably I've 1388 01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:25.439 probably sat into Hoodi lodges, you know, the oto to 1389 01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:27.479 Hoodi's lodge. I sat on that couch and looked at 1390 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.279 that fucking picture of the tree with the tarot on 1391 01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:33.279 it a hundred times before I actually was like, huh, 1392 01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:37.319 maybe I should look at it like that. And when 1393 01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:40.159 I started to get into Kabbala, I had taken that 1394 01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:42.960 approach because I really I was fascinated by taro. But 1395 01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:45.399 I was just like, I don't fucking get it. And 1396 01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:47.399 I'm like, I don't even get when these people read 1397 01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:49.600 through their tarot readings, I'm like, where the fuck did 1398 01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:52.159 they just get all that fucking shit from? Like that, 1399 01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.079 where is this coming from? So when I started to 1400 01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:57.760 align it with the Kabbala and started to try to 1401 01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:01.239 like learn Kabbala and then look at tarot based on 1402 01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:04.279 the ideas of Caabala, certain things started popping for me 1403 01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:07.119 and make it more sense. So I saw people talking 1404 01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:10.439 about both. For me, yeah, when I try to incorporate 1405 01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:12.720 them both, it seemed to open up a little bit 1406 01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:13.319 more ideas. 1407 01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:20.279 Yes, let's talk about it. So tarot, right, I'd say, 1408 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.680 it's uh, first of all, let's be cure here. I 1409 01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:26.960 have a tarot deck. It holds no power by itself. 1410 01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:29.520 By itself, it means nothing I can even grab like 1411 01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.199 another piece of paper here, and it's going to be 1412 01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:35.199 just as powerful as those cards because the one behind 1413 01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:39.880 them is the one creating the thing. So I was 1414 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:43.760 showing here while you are speaking. We have the paths right, 1415 01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:46.960 there's the tree here. That's like a three D version. 1416 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:50.079 We have the paths. For example, from the first here 1417 01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.000 to the second one, we have this path and you 1418 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:57.640 can associate a tarrot card with it. Yeah, I'm doing 1419 01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:01.039 the maje here. Some people say it's the full. First 1420 01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:03.520 of all, it doesn't matter. You can make any connections. 1421 01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:06.039 You can put the moon here, you can put the Emperor, 1422 01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:08.720 it doesn't really matter. The point is you're creating a story. 1423 01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:10.680 So the first one that you put here is going 1424 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:13.960 to be you in that story. So if you start 1425 01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.239 with the Magician, you would have the power, as it's 1426 01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:20.399 written here, to create stuff. That's what the Magician does, 1427 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:24.279 creates things. If you start with the Fool, you're kind 1428 01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:27.439 of just fulling around, you know, trying to understand and 1429 01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:29.520 so on, and you get kind of you can become 1430 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:33.199 literally crazy while learning all this stuff. Again, do what 1431 01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:35.680 you will, however you want. That's just the system that 1432 01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:37.760 I was initiated and the one I prefer. But the 1433 01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.079 idea here is that the cards they're going to help 1434 01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:47.800 understand what's supposed to be the passage of the energy. 1435 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:51.600 So here we have the thing condensed. So again, as 1436 01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:53.600 I said, the first the first fear is like the 1437 01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:55.800 will and so on. Okay, but how does the will 1438 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:59.319 become the image the vision of the thing, Well, it 1439 01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:03.960 comes through this path. So literally energy comes through this path, 1440 01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:07.960 becomes light, and then we can explain that through the 1441 01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:10.319 tarot card. It's going to be easier for me to 1442 01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:12.680 explain to you by giving you an image. For example, 1443 01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.520 this guy right here, and the same with the one 1444 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:18.399 that is being shown on the screen, but online camera. 1445 01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:20.640 As we can see here, I have another deck. We 1446 01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:25.079 have the magician. He's doing his symbol here connecting the 1447 01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:29.880 skies with the earth. So he's connecting the digital and 1448 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:33.760 the analogue. He has the four elements as I was saying, 1449 01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:37.119 he has the fire here with the forgot what's the 1450 01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:39.159 name of this in English, with this mar the fire here, 1451 01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:42.439 the water with the cup, the sword which is air, 1452 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:45.079 and then the pentacle the money which is earth. So 1453 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:48.319 again he has the four elements that he uses to control. 1454 01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:53.119 As I was talking about your imagination, feelings, thoughts, emotions, 1455 01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:56.359 so so on. He's using that to connect the skies 1456 01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:01.840 with the earth, the abstract with the grounded, the material, 1457 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:05.119 the material. So when I when I have the image, 1458 01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:08.399 it's much easier to explain then to say, like try 1459 01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:11.359 to explain it through text or make you meditate. That's 1460 01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:14.039 another way. It's well, make you meditate into the into 1461 01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:17.199 the specific letter that is connected to it, and make 1462 01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:20.800 you arrive into that. That's cool as well. That's how 1463 01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.319 the Egyptians and the Greeks used to do, you know, 1464 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:27.720 through theater. Through drama. You make a drama about a 1465 01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:31.039 guy getting his wings made and then being told not 1466 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:33.399 go to too close to the sun, and then he 1467 01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:36.760 goes anyway and he falls nye. It's like, Okay, maybe 1468 01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:39.000 I should, you know, listen to my elder sometimes maybe 1469 01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:41.119 I should not have my egos. So I like, you'll 1470 01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:42.479 learn about it through the story. 1471 01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:46.079 So that's what Sorry, Matt, I just want to interrupt 1472 01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:48.159 you really quick. I want to do a little joke 1473 01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:51.239 for the branch. So you were talking about drama and 1474 01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:56.439 dramaturgy and taumaturgy, right, Like the words sounds so similar, 1475 01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:58.800 right because it is. It's part of the same like 1476 01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:01.880 hermeneutic to like bring things into expression, like you're saying anyways, 1477 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:04.760 I'm just I wanted to say that lodge Dad joke. 1478 01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:09.520 Yeah, I love those throw from Joshua, especially on the 1479 01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:12.119 the chatter was on another podcast was left in my ass. 1480 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:16.479 But anyways, so that's the idea. These are the stories. Okay. 1481 01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:21.119 Someone asked, sky is analog and Earth is digital. It's 1482 01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:23.319 usually the other way around because the sky you cannot 1483 01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:26.239 really touch, right the constellations, the planets there, they're there, 1484 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:29.399 but are they really there? Like you cannot really you know, 1485 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:31.800 touch them. But Earth is here. Earth you can attuch, 1486 01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:35.239 you can feel. So okay, So so then how does 1487 01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:37.920 helps me? First of all, it helps as I was saying, 1488 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:42.079 with the explanations. So now I can understand. Okay, there 1489 01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:45.880 are factors just like there are the spheres. There are 1490 01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.439 how the energy moves through the spheres. And if I 1491 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:52.399 understand that, then I can believe with that. For example, 1492 01:16:52.439 --> 01:16:57.079 I'll give a very very clear one we have here, 1493 01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:01.920 the justice card. Okay, So what the justice card teaches 1494 01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:05.159 us is to be just with yourself, to be just 1495 01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.439 with orders. It's the true justice. Because when we don't 1496 01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:12.680 understand that, then what we do we let people get 1497 01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:14.560 over us and like do stuff to us that we 1498 01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:16.079 don't like and so on, and we just kind of 1499 01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:18.199 let it be and so and so on. So they 1500 01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:20.560 are kind of like facets to life, and they are 1501 01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:25.319 also energies. So it's it's everything. So there are things 1502 01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:27.439 that we can do personally with orders. There are things 1503 01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:31.560 that just make reality come forward. So another way that 1504 01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:35.239 I can explain it if I open it on another tab. 1505 01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.079 Wait a second, I'm going to open the Magician here, 1506 01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:47.520 so you can make a lot of connection strict For example, 1507 01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:50.159 this is the same path, the one from the crown, 1508 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:52.439 the first one to the second one, and you can 1509 01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:55.159 see here on the website. There's like other stuff that 1510 01:17:55.159 --> 01:17:58.039 you can connect to. There's like the letters or what 1511 01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:01.279 it should do, or there's like something a description like 1512 01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:04.159 that's the wisdom of the crown, like the wisdom of 1513 01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:07.680 your head and one, so you can start playing with those. Now, 1514 01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:11.840 when we use tarot for a reading, what's happening is 1515 01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:16.039 you're getting a snapshot off your consciousness. So in truth, 1516 01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:20.279 any card that comes will tell something about you or 1517 01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:22.840 your situation. That's just how it goes. It doesn't matter 1518 01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:26.119 really which card comes. It's funny though, that a lot 1519 01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:30.000 of times cards are very specific. But that's just a coincidence, 1520 01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:33.079 some would say. But the point is the cards themselves. Again, 1521 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:36.199 they don't have power. But as you start seeing the cards, 1522 01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:39.039 you start to understand the story that you're going through, 1523 01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:42.760 You start to make the connections. And if the person 1524 01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:47.039 reading the terror to you is good, they're gonna help 1525 01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:49.479 you get there. So the point is for you to 1526 01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:51.840 get there, like the person doing the reading, and they're 1527 01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:54.520 not necessarily supposed to be giving you like, oh, you 1528 01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:56.399 should be doing this, and that is that's how I 1529 01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:59.239 see it, Like it's a synthesis of both of what 1530 01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:02.479 the person is saying and what you're getting. So you 1531 01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:05.720 could say, in a way, this podcast is like a 1532 01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:08.640 tarrot reading. So I don't I don't need the cards. 1533 01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:11.640 I'm talking to you about something. I'm using one of these. 1534 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:15.239 It's like imagine in my head, i'm doing this, I'm 1535 01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:17.600 this guy right now, and then maybe I talk something else, 1536 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:20.399 and then now I'm this guy, and then my consciousness 1537 01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:22.279 goes something out somewhere else, and then now I'm this 1538 01:19:22.439 --> 01:19:27.439 guy and it goes like changing. You can understand reality 1539 01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:32.119 as like a series of images going like like in 1540 01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:35.199 a video, like a video it's a lot of images 1541 01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:38.359 going very rapidly. It's not like a video, it's not 1542 01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:40.239 a thing. It's like a lot of images going very rapidly. 1543 01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:42.840 So you can think of reality the same way. It's 1544 01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:44.880 like a lot of terrot cards coming like Okay, now 1545 01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:47.119 it's this one. Okay, now it's that one, and now's 1546 01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:50.239 the other one. But then sometimes we get stuck into 1547 01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:52.279 this one and then life is like, oh, I'm not 1548 01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:55.119 going forward because you're trying to use like you're in 1549 01:19:55.239 --> 01:19:58.239 a like a fighting game and you're using the same punch, 1550 01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:01.199 the same punch, and then the game's okay, this guy 1551 01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:03.439 just uses that punch. Let me get him through like 1552 01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:05.960 a like a slide or something, and then you don't 1553 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:07.680 realize that you're still trying to do the punch and 1554 01:20:07.720 --> 01:20:10.079 the game is like, bro, something else we caught you 1555 01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.000 on that, you know, So again, I'm gonna learn to 1556 01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:19.800 use all the facets. So through that lens, then Terroot 1557 01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:21.560 is not the only thing that you can use for divination. 1558 01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:25.239 You can get answers through literally anything, like you can 1559 01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:28.199 ask yourself something and then maybe it comes directly to you. 1560 01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:31.560 Maybe you see it on like a car car's plate, 1561 01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:35.199 like a license plate. Maybe you're listening to music as 1562 01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:37.439 you're thinking about it, and then the lyrics kind of 1563 01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:42.279 answer you again. The tweeter feed answers you. Somebody messages 1564 01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:45.680 you just as you thought about it, Like that someone 1565 01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:47.479 commented I was speaking about the ads and then the 1566 01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:50.239 guy got the ads. Like you know, you can make 1567 01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:53.880 the conne ashes. Just try to ground yourself sometimes as well, 1568 01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.720 to make sure what you're doing is actually helpful, like 1569 01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:01.039 it's actually giving you something. Otherwise you just become again 1570 01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:04.720 the fool. We have it on the arrot, right, the fool. 1571 01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:07.439 You become the fool. You're like, ooh, I don't under 1572 01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:10.560 said anything. Oh no, it's too crazy, So like, okay, 1573 01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:16.720 stop breathe. That's why it's like it's good to have 1574 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:20.199 some kind of experience. I understand the idea of the 1575 01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:23.279 Jewish guys saying, oh, you only have to learn kabab 1576 01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:25.000 after forty years, Like I get it, you kind of 1577 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.479 need some experience. But at the same time, no, sometimes 1578 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:30.680 it's just how it goes. You learn it earlier and 1579 01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:37.000 that's it it works. So I think, does it does 1580 01:21:37.039 --> 01:21:39.359 it answer you? Nick? And I guess the other people 1581 01:21:39.399 --> 01:21:40.600 which we're talking about the tarrot. 1582 01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:43.600 Oh yeah, no, no, I think that was great. I 1583 01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:45.840 also would just like throw in and I'm pretty sure 1584 01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:48.079 like you guys are kind of well you were kind 1585 01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:51.359 of saying, oh, maybe the same thing. I do think 1586 01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:53.760 like you get a story in there too, you know. 1587 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:56.279 With using the paths, I think you kind of will 1588 01:21:56.319 --> 01:21:58.920 see maybe the hero's journey in a sense going on. 1589 01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:03.800 I think you see the changes within. It's interesting if 1590 01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:05.680 you look at it this way, if you look at 1591 01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:07.199 the tree, and this is how I've been saying, I 1592 01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:12.319 think Tarot is too, and even the gods, there's only 1593 01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:15.479 two paths and it just keeps on basically like just 1594 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.640 changing originally. So you know, I think the male and 1595 01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:20.439 the female that you see in that is just those 1596 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:24.640 two energies. It's the same. It's just changing throughout its 1597 01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:28.239 timeline or its journey, you know. And I think you 1598 01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:32.399 can see that done well if you put the tarot 1599 01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:33.880 with the cabalistic tree. 1600 01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:39.520 Exactly. Again, if we think about as I was saying, 1601 01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:42.680 the images, the tarrot gives you the images for us 1602 01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:46.479 to understand more easily the whole tree, Like that's that 1603 01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:48.159 should be the point. And I totally agree with you. 1604 01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:51.000 The hero's journey, Like there are other types, Like there's 1605 01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:54.560 the Hercules story as well, right with the twelve he 1606 01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:57.319 goes to the twelve different places and this stuff. There's 1607 01:22:57.359 --> 01:23:01.239 like other journeys. Let's say that's the idea we are living. 1608 01:23:01.560 --> 01:23:04.479 We are a living story. So you get to decide 1609 01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:07.159 what character you're playing, like what actions are going to 1610 01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:10.119 take where you are in the story. For example, if 1611 01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:13.359 we are it, I was showing the major cards right there, 1612 01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:15.600 the paths, but if we want to talk about the 1613 01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:19.000 minor cards, they're going to be the spheres. So if 1614 01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:21.640 I go to like, I'm going to go to yes 1615 01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:25.279 for example. So yes, So it is the purpose here, 1616 01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.000 and it's going to be all the nines. So every 1617 01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:30.319 time you get a nine of whatever, nine of ones, 1618 01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:34.800 nine of cups, nine of whatever, your consciousness is in yes, sod, 1619 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:37.840 And then it's in one of the elements. It's either 1620 01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:42.560 the foundation of your feelings if it's water, the foundation 1621 01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:44.880 of your will, if it's fired, the foundation of your thoughts, 1622 01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:47.640 if it's sword, and so on and so forth. Then 1623 01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:50.000 it also gets much easier to read it because it's 1624 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:53.600 like keywords, right, Okay, I get it. It's much faster 1625 01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:56.239 than trying to remember all the like if I come here, 1626 01:23:56.640 --> 01:24:00.199 I don't even know what is what sometimes is really here, 1627 01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:05.079 like like salibate, okay, why I don't know. I cannot 1628 01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:07.239 Like if someone said to me, oh, that that's how 1629 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:09.720 it should be, I'm like, okay, why And then if 1630 01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:12.199 you say, oh, it's the foundation of your thoughts, maybe 1631 01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:14.239 it can arrive there. They're like, okay, now I see it. 1632 01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:14.760 Why is that. 1633 01:24:16.319 --> 01:24:18.079 Or why someone someone could say it's that. 1634 01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:20.600 It's not sound like a conspiracy podcast trying to cover 1635 01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:26.600 occultism telling you things without any reason. Why man, oh 1636 01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:28.880 this equal so and so and that equals so and so. Okay, 1637 01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:30.680 would you like to tell me why that's bail? Why 1638 01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:35.880 that's bolock? Oh no, that's what Jordan Maxwell said. 1639 01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:45.199 Anyways, Sorry, but yeah, I think I saw another question. 1640 01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:49.199 Where was it from DJ Black eleven? 1641 01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:51.119 Oh yeah, yeah, oh, my boy, I don't know if 1642 01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:53.239 it's too my boy asked about your apotheosis. 1643 01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:53.920 How you used that? 1644 01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:56.159 I don't know if you saw that earlier, my boy. 1645 01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:59.760 William, Yeah, it's it's below it. I'll answer it as well. Okay, 1646 01:24:59.880 --> 01:25:04.000 but the so DJ blackcasts about the Gematria, so I 1647 01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:07.239 actually have it on the website as well. So Gimatre 1648 01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:11.119 is understanding that as we saw the tree, it helps 1649 01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:15.119 you understand the numbers of things, how energy goes, how 1650 01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:18.279 the letters. So just to be clear once again, sorry, 1651 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:21.159 So each of the paths is going to be related 1652 01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:24.880 to one letter. So I think it's like this is better. 1653 01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:27.520 So this is for example A. You can say it's A, 1654 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:29.640 you can say it's another. It doesn't matter. This is A. 1655 01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.680 This is going to be B in the Latin alphabet 1656 01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:35.279 at least, this is going to be D, and so 1657 01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:38.279 on and so forth. So as you can see the letters, 1658 01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:43.319 they are basically a glyph. They are a schedule. Even 1659 01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:45.640 if you may say of the kind of energy that 1660 01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:48.760 we want to work with, and you may have seen 1661 01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:53.159 somewhere that you know the some of the constellations became 1662 01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:55.159 the letters that we use and swan, so again we 1663 01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:58.520 got it from the skies and whatever. So the idea 1664 01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:02.199 is that each letter who have an energy in the 1665 01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:04.760 same way, that energy can be understood as like a number. 1666 01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:07.119 So the letters and numbers they are the same. Idea. 1667 01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:10.640 You have a glyft to kind of compress to explain 1668 01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:13.520 the kind of energy. So the matria would be the 1669 01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:15.960 idea of getting a name. Let's say I'm going to 1670 01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:20.760 use the name here Kamala, getting that name, and then 1671 01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:25.560 understanding from the words which are the numerical values of this, 1672 01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:28.399 and then from that you can start infairing things. Now, 1673 01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:30.800 if you're on Twitter, there's gonna be a lot of 1674 01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:35.079 people talking about Gimatra of like, oh, the word I'm 1675 01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:38.560 without my pants is the same as Trump did that, 1676 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.840 and it's like, oh, see it, it's gimatra. I mean, 1677 01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:43.119 you know what. 1678 01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:47.479 You know, what's the funniest for you. You know what's 1679 01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:49.960 the best too, is when you get these people and 1680 01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:51.840 it's just like yo, it's like it's like you wish, 1681 01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:53.600 It's like I wish the occultists were around for this. 1682 01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:58.319 When you get these conspiracy people using like basically Pythagorean style, 1683 01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:00.600 it's not even really jamatra anymore. You're doing that one 1684 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:04.359 through fucking nine, one through ten. Yeah, you know, like 1685 01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:07.079 you're not even using that style and you're counting days 1686 01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:13.039 between fucking dates. Now, don't call this damatria. It's not Yeah, 1687 01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:15.680 you're not even using jamachi like you're using it all 1688 01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:17.520 Like it's not. 1689 01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:21.159 I'm sorry, So again, I don't want to get and 1690 01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:23.199 started into that. You know, I don't want to get 1691 01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:26.199 into the things here, but the idea is that sure 1692 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.520 you can use like that as well. It's just question yourself, why, 1693 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:31.720 but how do it help you? How does that help? 1694 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:33.600 If it helps you, cool man, go for it. You know, 1695 01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:37.039 I don't necessarily it doesn't necessarily help me, so I 1696 01:27:37.079 --> 01:27:38.760 don't use it or even like you were saying, the 1697 01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:42.399 Pictagorian kind of numerology stuff cool as well, like it's 1698 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:44.680 going to be different systems with different accuracies. 1699 01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:47.920 Oh yeah, no, I'm not just disregarding that that shit works. 1700 01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:49.960 It's just it's funny when you watch people use that 1701 01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:53.199 and call it damatria and start like yeah, oh it's 1702 01:27:53.239 --> 01:27:55.439 like out of all these twenty ciphers, I put the 1703 01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:57.560 same word through, you know, I found three of them 1704 01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:01.199 that fits my agenda. Now, like you're gonna find something 1705 01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:03.680 when you run thirty fucking ciphers with it? What the fuck? 1706 01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:07.159 Exactly? If I get some point, you'll find it. 1707 01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:10.239 And again no, and I'm huge, I'm huge, just real quick, 1708 01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:13.199 and I'll even say this just have to interrupt if 1709 01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:15.920 you especially, this is my opinion. If you call yourself 1710 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:20.039 a tella might you better understand fucking Jamatria Crowley was 1711 01:28:20.119 --> 01:28:22.880 huge about it. It's a whole fucking gigantic chapler in 1712 01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:25.880 the beginning of seven seven seven. And if anybody ever, 1713 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:29.039 ever ever has the chance to go to Texas and 1714 01:28:29.119 --> 01:28:31.279 to look at his handwritten notes or the vision and 1715 01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.239 the voice, you will see that he spent plenty of 1716 01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:38.000 time taking words and figuring out the numerical value to 1717 01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:41.159 even put it in that fucking book. It's ciphered, it's coded. 1718 01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:44.359 It meanshit get into fucking numbers. 1719 01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:48.479 Yeah, exactly, and it goes both ways. Afterwards, if you'll 1720 01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:51.239 understand the number, then you can see what letters would 1721 01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:54.039 that be and so on. So kind of place, I'm 1722 01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:56.960 gonna give a very simple example of how you can 1723 01:28:57.039 --> 01:29:01.560 use gamatra in a cool and like a beneficial way 1724 01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:03.279 for you, something that will actually change your life and 1725 01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:05.439 not just you know, be on Twitter, you know, talking 1726 01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:08.920 about it as well. So there was a footballer, Brazilian 1727 01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:11.880 footballer that he got his name. His name is Hicardo. 1728 01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:15.239 But then because of his name is Ricardo, people started 1729 01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:16.760 calling him like I think it was his broad or 1730 01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:23.119 whatever started calling him like this with c from Ricardo. 1731 01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:28.399 If we see this. Look, we have here the letters 1732 01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:32.640 and what values they need. So in this case we 1733 01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:37.079 can see here the letter analysis C is twenty, A 1734 01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:43.720 is one, so we have twenty twenty one and one again. Okay, 1735 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:47.079 so in the end we have forty two. But the 1736 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:52.039 way that I'm using Gimatra here is not by coincidence. 1737 01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:55.199 We have three columns. We have the vowels. How do 1738 01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:58.880 you see yourself? Like how the value of the value 1739 01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:03.560 of the vowels interact with yourself and make you see 1740 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:05.880 yourself like what the type of the energy that this 1741 01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:09.279 is going to make you feel? In his case, if 1742 01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:11.159 we sum up just evolves, we're going to get A 1743 01:30:11.399 --> 01:30:15.079 which is one another way another a which is another one. 1744 01:30:15.199 --> 01:30:19.680 So we have two. Okay, what is the second card 1745 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:23.680 of the tree? So if we get the second path, 1746 01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.079 what's the card associated with that the system that I 1747 01:30:26.199 --> 01:30:29.119 use that's going to be the high pricess high priesis 1748 01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:33.000 is a passive card. Is a card that talks about 1749 01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:37.680 constantly rewriting your story, like getting your book and then 1750 01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:39.479 kind of like I didn't like that thing that I 1751 01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:41.399 did in the past, let me let me think about 1752 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:43.079 it that I did it in another way in one 1753 01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:48.079 so again it makes you passive, so okay, that's cool. 1754 01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.199 Then when you see into the consonants, we have the forty, 1755 01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:54.560 so the forty actually this is a bug here, should 1756 01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:56.960 be just the emperor card, but we have the four. 1757 01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:01.279 So the forty we reduce for LUs zero and then 1758 01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:04.319 we have the Emperor, so he would be seen by 1759 01:31:04.439 --> 01:31:07.399 others as someone which has a little bit of authority 1760 01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:10.359 and so on. Okay, cool, But when that sums up 1761 01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:12.800 and you have the synthesis, then you have the six, 1762 01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:17.159 which is the lover, which is gonna put him into duality. 1763 01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:19.079 As you can see in the card here, the guy 1764 01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:22.680 has to choose between those gods goddesses which one is 1765 01:31:22.760 --> 01:31:25.520 the like previous or whatever. That's the story. This guy 1766 01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:28.600 is called Paris, and again that's the type of energy 1767 01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:31.680 that he gets, like he's going to be always indecisive. Again, 1768 01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:34.520 it's passive energy for himself, so he's not gonna be 1769 01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:38.039 seen seeing himself as some kind of like big football 1770 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:41.840 or cool guy that does stuff. Now I'm not saying 1771 01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:44.800 he went to a cobbaalist to name change, but for 1772 01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:46.760 whatever reason, and you are not going to be able 1773 01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.840 to find the in like the internet or whatever why 1774 01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:58.159 they changed from the ACA to ka ka kaka. Now 1775 01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:01.560 the thing is, this is going to be a completely 1776 01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:04.520 different GMTRA because now we have the K which is 1777 01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:08.479 another card for it. That's going to be the Sun card, 1778 01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:10.920 which is one hundred. Then we have again the one 1779 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.960 and then again one hundred. So this is going to 1780 01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:19.720 put him now at least in a let's say, kind 1781 01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:22.119 of cube because now we have the two on one side, 1782 01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:24.359 the two and another side that would come up to 1783 01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:30.159 twenty two. So it's not the actual copulear. Here's not 1784 01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:33.840 calculating the way that I would do it in the paper, 1785 01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:37.640 but basically it changes up completely his energy and made 1786 01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:40.920 him much better. Like literally, it made him think about 1787 01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:43.399 himself better, made people see himself better. And if you 1788 01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:49.960 think about it, all artists, musicians, politicians, even some business people, 1789 01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:53.840 like big guys in business, you don't know them by 1790 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:57.720 their actual name. You know them by their fabricated name 1791 01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:00.760 or whatever they're they're changed up name. I'm not saying 1792 01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:03.279 all of them do this kind of stuff like thinking 1793 01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:05.760 about it, but it's just funny how it goes. You know, 1794 01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:07.479 you look at them and you're going to say, okay, 1795 01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:10.760 his name and if if you start checking the energy 1796 01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:13.199 behind their name is like, okay, change a lot, you know. 1797 01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:16.560 So it's very interesting how how it all goes. That's 1798 01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:20.159 how I would use it, you know, personally, because that's 1799 01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:23.920 something that then I can understand things better because again 1800 01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:26.159 I can read them and see what what does it 1801 01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:28.399 actually mean? And I can use it for myself, like 1802 01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:30.920 maybe if I'm choosing my business name, maybe if I'm 1803 01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:34.279 choosing a products name, it doesn't matter. I can see 1804 01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:37.119 what's going on. The point is not to get too 1805 01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:40.439 crazy about it, but just now you have more options, 1806 01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:41.680 you have more tools to work with. 1807 01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:44.520 You don't think some people change their names or even 1808 01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:46.840 take magical names. This is all thrown in there too 1809 01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:47.239 as well. 1810 01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:52.119 Yeah, yeah, exactly, definitely the magician. 1811 01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:56.560 Yeah saying even if an occult was even to change 1812 01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:00.640 their real legal name, I'm sure Jimachi was get involved. 1813 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:04.079 Yeah, I just want to say this, this is a 1814 01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:08.479 very common Asian thing to change your your name based 1815 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:12.760 on astrology, very very very common, change your characters that 1816 01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:15.720 you used to write your name, even in a legal context. 1817 01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:18.840 It's very acceptable. So that. 1818 01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:23.880 Is I'd never do that because and also so many 1819 01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.600 Chinese words are homophones. Too, like they sound the same. 1820 01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:30.119 So if you have a name, and like you have 1821 01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:32.319 a parent that thinks, oh, that's a great sounding name. 1822 01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:34.880 But then they didn't realize that, oh, actually it sounds 1823 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:38.560 like this other word or this other phrase that is 1824 01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:42.079 like considered to be unlucky. That can be a problem. 1825 01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:45.239 And also they do it for firstborn sons, not me. 1826 01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:48.079 Sometimes I am a firstborn son, but they did I 1827 01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:50.840 didn't do this. But they give them a girl's name 1828 01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:54.359 for the first year and a day, so it keeps 1829 01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:57.119 the evil spirits away, so they don't take away the 1830 01:34:57.159 --> 01:34:57.560 first one. 1831 01:34:59.239 --> 01:34:59.880 Bruce Lee did that. 1832 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:04.000 That's all around, it's all over, it's all over the place. 1833 01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:07.159 And someone asked, like, how can it exist, demetria if 1834 01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:11.439 numbers only appeared afterwards. Now, numbers as a glyph sure 1835 01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:14.520 may have appeared afterwards, but number as a concept, like 1836 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:16.760 you have one thing, you have two things, three things 1837 01:35:17.079 --> 01:35:19.079 that exists. That's geometry. 1838 01:35:19.159 --> 01:35:21.359 Well, this person also said or not appears in the 1839 01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:24.800 fifteenth century. I mean, I'm wondering if that was even 1840 01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:28.960 trolling or I mean, we didn't have numbers until the 1841 01:35:29.039 --> 01:35:29.920 fifteenth century. 1842 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:33.880 Really, it's it's nice to bring up the fact that 1843 01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:37.079 again the power is not in the numbers itself or 1844 01:35:37.159 --> 01:35:40.640 the letters. It's all about the thing behind them. We 1845 01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:42.720 got to remember, if you go back to the tree 1846 01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:45.479 that we have things. I'm sure I just wanted to. 1847 01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:47.279 Well, you know, one thing I do want to add 1848 01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:51.359 that I would say probably most oh, I'd probably say 1849 01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:54.600 close to ninety percent of all languages probably started off 1850 01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:59.640 with through numbers matching the letters at inception. A lot 1851 01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:03.479 of basically they all like it was it came together. 1852 01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:06.079 I mean, we have an alpha numeric system. 1853 01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:06.600 I mean. 1854 01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:11.039 Exactly because it kind of Also if you think about, 1855 01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:13.199 like the first time we kind of needed numbers or 1856 01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:16.000 counting was, let's say, to farm or to do stuff 1857 01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:17.479 like that, Like I need to know how many cattles 1858 01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:21.079 do I have? I need to count. Sometimes I cannot 1859 01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:23.439 count more than turning easily, So I need some kind 1860 01:36:23.479 --> 01:36:25.760 of lift somewhere like it, even if it's just a stroke, 1861 01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:27.560 that's already something you know. 1862 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:30.239 And even for just real quick for people who are 1863 01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:32.479 into Jamatria and we're talking about it now, you go 1864 01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:35.159 back about two years ago, I did a three part 1865 01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:38.079 series on that with somebody else and we even I 1866 01:36:38.199 --> 01:36:41.720 even explained in there how believe it or not. Occultists 1867 01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:44.439 or people in the past who wanted to decipher one 1868 01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:46.560 language to the next. I don't know how the fuck 1869 01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:49.000 they did it, but they used jamatria in numbers to 1870 01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:54.079 actually translate one language the next with the cult you know, 1871 01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:58.520 cultists were doing that with books, so it must work. 1872 01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:03.199 And again that's because the number system is invented normally, 1873 01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:07.319 going along with the letters exactly. 1874 01:37:07.359 --> 01:37:11.960 It's like colors, for example, do they exist well, depends, 1875 01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:14.600 Like you mean, the name of the colors, that's something 1876 01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:18.800 we created, But the color itself, it kind of is, 1877 01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.600 and and it doesn't necessarily it's the same for everyone. 1878 01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:23.760 Like I may see red in one way, some other 1879 01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:26.720 person maybe see what we call red in an other 1880 01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:28.720 way as well. So again, the perception of things and 1881 01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:34.000 so on. Now there's a there's two related questions here. 1882 01:37:34.359 --> 01:37:36.840 So what have what have I? 1883 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:40.439 How has this things that I learned? How have a 1884 01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:44.439 fucking up? How I applied this to my life? And 1885 01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:46.880 the other one how do I apply it to self? Apotheosis? 1886 01:37:47.720 --> 01:37:50.960 So in general, right, how how did I apply this 1887 01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:54.479 stuff to my life and everything? Everything and anything? 1888 01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:54.760 Really? 1889 01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:58.199 Because at some point it becomes even unconscious, like I'm 1890 01:37:58.840 --> 01:38:03.760 not necessarily thinking about the system itself, but I'm thinking, Okay, 1891 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:06.000 what's the color that I want to use to go 1892 01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:08.159 to this place? What words do I want to use 1893 01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:10.800 to speak to that person? Or if I'm going through 1894 01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:12.800 a situation. It already happened a lot of times where 1895 01:38:12.800 --> 01:38:15.359 I'm going through a situation and then I realize, man, 1896 01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:19.279 that's exactly the same situation of that Tarot card, and 1897 01:38:19.399 --> 01:38:21.920 now I know how to win the situation, how to 1898 01:38:22.039 --> 01:38:24.960 like not be blown away by it. Let's say the 1899 01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:31.319 the lover card, which puts you into indecisiveness. If I 1900 01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:34.920 understand that I'm going through that, then I can I said, Okay, 1901 01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:37.399 I just need to make a choice, doesn't matter which choice. 1902 01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:38.720 I just make a choice and then I live with 1903 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:41.640 consequence and that's it. Otherwise I'm going to be stuck 1904 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:46.119 and what the card makes you do, and I'm going 1905 01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:49.159 to show it because it's actually so cool. One second, 1906 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:54.000 So that's that's the lover card. In another deck, if 1907 01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:56.079 you pay attention, you have one guy in the middle 1908 01:38:56.800 --> 01:38:59.399 supposed to be Adam, and you have in his side 1909 01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:02.680 and his right side you have Eve and in the 1910 01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:07.279 left side. From our perception, we have Lilith. So he's like, 1911 01:39:07.640 --> 01:39:10.279 should I go with the traditional check or should I 1912 01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:11.439 go with the one that I'm going. 1913 01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:11.760 To have fun? 1914 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:14.199 You know, this kind of story. And then he says 1915 01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:16.359 he doesn't know what to do. You know, he's not 1916 01:39:16.479 --> 01:39:19.520 choosing it, you see the cupid which is his mind. 1917 01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:22.920 His brain's choosing the one which is, in theory in 1918 01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:25.640 this case, in the story, the hardest one, the one 1919 01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:28.800 that is not necessarily the better or whatever. So that's 1920 01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:30.520 the point. If you get in decided that you don't 1921 01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:33.880 choose stuff anyways, something is going to be chosen eventually. 1922 01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:37.720 Even not choosing is a choice if you are between 1923 01:39:37.760 --> 01:39:41.279 two choices. Another thing that this card talks about is 1924 01:39:41.439 --> 01:39:43.720 by going to the middle path, like not trying to 1925 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:45.439 be the victim in a story, not trying to be 1926 01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:48.239 the villain, Like just do what you need what you 1927 01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:49.920 need to do, and that's it. You know, there's no 1928 01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:53.399 if you try to understand someone else's story, maybe they 1929 01:39:53.640 --> 01:39:57.199 put themselves as the victim all the time, and reality 1930 01:39:57.399 --> 01:39:58.760 is there's no such thing. 1931 01:39:58.840 --> 01:39:58.960 There. 1932 01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:01.840 There is what you do and what happens after you 1933 01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:03.640 do that thing, or what do you think about it? 1934 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:07.239 And it's one and a lot of times. What may 1935 01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:11.479 seem bad now you know bad because again depends on 1936 01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:14.960 the perception. Afterwards may be proven to be a good 1937 01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:18.359 thing and then a bad thing again. It's like the farmer, 1938 01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:21.600 the Chinese farmer Alan Watt's story. You know that idea. 1939 01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:26.000 You never know where it's leading you, so just make 1940 01:40:26.079 --> 01:40:29.079 choices and live with them. That's how. For example, this 1941 01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:30.760 has changed my lafe a lot, because then I can 1942 01:40:30.960 --> 01:40:35.000 just make better decisions. I can go to cooler places. 1943 01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:39.520 For example, now I'm speaking from the US. I'm actually 1944 01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:40.960 I don't live in US, but now I'm speaking in 1945 01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:44.439 the US. I came here for some concerts, and I 1946 01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:46.720 was at the end of the culture. Like I went 1947 01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:49.199 three days at the same bands they were touring. I 1948 01:40:49.279 --> 01:40:51.800 followed them through the cities, and in the last day 1949 01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:54.720 I was there at their bus, like their tour bus. 1950 01:40:55.119 --> 01:40:57.159 I was like buddies with the guys that maybe a 1951 01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:59.560 couple of years ago I would be like, man, it's 1952 01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:01.680 not like, oh, they're LEDs whatever. Like I was there 1953 01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:03.479 in the bus with them. And I was only able 1954 01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:07.359 to arrive to that point because Kabala helped me make 1955 01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:11.520 better decisions, have better opportunities, speak better think better and 1956 01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:14.640 swans so so songs like it. Just that's a mundane 1957 01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:17.359 thing that I'm trying to explain to to get that asked. 1958 01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:21.399 But the same can be thought to what the other 1959 01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:25.159 guy asked about the self of potheosis, like that. The 1960 01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:29.520 more I understand the system, the better I can understand reality. 1961 01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:33.199 The better I can understand it, How should I use 1962 01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:37.760 it to do things like that? Like, for example, how 1963 01:41:37.840 --> 01:41:42.199 can I if I understand what death really means, what 1964 01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:44.720 being alive really means, or how would I continue with 1965 01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.119 myself or what God really is? And swans on, I 1966 01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:52.000 can relate to that better, at least from my own terms. Again, 1967 01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:54.279 from my own perception. I'm not saying everyone listening to 1968 01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:56.880 this should go and be using the system again, do 1969 01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:58.800 whatever you want the first three right. If you don't 1970 01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:01.279 want it, don't do it. But that's how it has 1971 01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:05.600 been helped me. It's like the tool. I can understand 1972 01:42:05.640 --> 01:42:08.079 my body better. I can't understand my thoughts better, my 1973 01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:12.880 my feelings, my everything, my connection to whatever you want 1974 01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:15.560 to call it, God universe again doesn't matter than the 1975 01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:18.880 name you give it at it is from my perspective. 1976 01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:23.159 So yeah, I mean, it's just life changing really to me. 1977 01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:30.199 Yeah, well said this Jen, you got anything you want 1978 01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:30.520 to want. 1979 01:42:33.560 --> 01:42:36.399 I just think it just goes back to exactly what 1980 01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:39.600 Matta and you said at the very beginning. It's it's 1981 01:42:39.640 --> 01:42:42.720 just it's a system of correspondences that relates to the 1982 01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:48.000 metaphysical reality and the material reality of this, of our 1983 01:42:48.319 --> 01:42:52.560 perception of our consciousness and our interaction with the material world. 1984 01:42:53.079 --> 01:42:58.279 So you know, there's really I love Matt because he uses. 1985 01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:01.800 This flex He has a flexibility and he's able to 1986 01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:04.399 look at things in a very pragmatic way. And I 1987 01:43:04.439 --> 01:43:06.760 think this is really important. I'm not trying to bring 1988 01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:09.479 up aonic things or any anything, but I do think 1989 01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:12.439 this is an aonic theme. And I think that the 1990 01:43:12.880 --> 01:43:15.199 kind of magic that goes forward, if you want to 1991 01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:18.359 call magic or whatever it is, wisdom science, wisdom science, 1992 01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:22.560 it needs to be something that is pragmatic that can 1993 01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:26.960 help people not only grow materially but also sort of 1994 01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:31.079 expand their consciousness spiritually, if you want to call that. 1995 01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:33.399 So I just want to say I really appreciate that. 1996 01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:36.000 I really appreciate that Matt wanted me on and that 1997 01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:38.479 Nick invited me on. Thank you so much, appreciate it, 1998 01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:40.199 and this is amazing. 1999 01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:40.760 Thank you guys. 2000 01:43:41.239 --> 01:43:47.840 Yeah, yeah, it was a sorry there was another question here, Sure, 2001 01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:52.479 go forward, let me find it again. Someone said this 2002 01:43:52.560 --> 01:43:55.159 is pointless. How will this information help me to become 2003 01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:57.720 a great person in life? So I can answer you 2004 01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:00.920 like this is to ignore this podcast, forget about it, 2005 01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:04.000 forget that you even watched it. Just go to your 2006 01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:07.239 life and try to be the best at whatever you 2007 01:44:07.319 --> 01:44:09.439 want to be. You want to be the best cook, 2008 01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:11.000 you want to be the best driver, you want to 2009 01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:14.079 be the best whatever, be the best of that. I'm 2010 01:44:14.119 --> 01:44:16.239 not saying to you. You're going to realize eventually, maybe 2011 01:44:16.760 --> 01:44:18.600 that you're going to look at what you did and 2012 01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:21.680 how you arrive there, and it's going to be by 2013 01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:25.079 using the system. Well, so if you don't want to 2014 01:44:25.399 --> 01:44:27.880 learn it and just kind of try to, you know, 2015 01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:30.000 do it by yourself, cool, go for it as well. 2016 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:34.159 It doesn't really Again, the information itself doesn't change anything 2017 01:44:34.239 --> 01:44:37.800 if you don't apply to it. Right as we were 2018 01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:41.199 showing the other picture, this one, if you're just getting 2019 01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:43.560 here to the study, it doesn't really matter if you 2020 01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:45.399 don't practice it. So you need to practice. You need 2021 01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:48.399 to go and how can I practice Cababa live life, 2022 01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:51.800 Live life the best you can. Go, have relationships with people, 2023 01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:54.199 Go try to make money, go to the gym, go, 2024 01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:56.920 you know, do whatever, go eat, do the simplest thing, 2025 01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:01.119 Go walk around barefoot, go do whatever want. Really, and 2026 01:45:01.479 --> 01:45:04.680 the more you pay attention, I think that the keyword 2027 01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:08.039 here is awareness, like being alert, being aware, more aware, 2028 01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:10.800 the more present you are. People talk about this all 2029 01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:12.800 the time, you know, be present, being the present moment. 2030 01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:15.479 Like that's the thing. Like, if you're there paying attention, 2031 01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:18.279 you're gonna start to realize the signs. You're gonna start 2032 01:45:18.319 --> 01:45:20.800 to realize how things connect to each other and so on. 2033 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:23.600 And that's it. Like if you don't want to go 2034 01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:26.319 into the tidbits and reading books and practicing and doing 2035 01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:29.199 all the virtualistic or whatever, that's the coolest wellment, Just go. 2036 01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:37.399 And do what you like. I like that. Uh was 2037 01:45:37.439 --> 01:45:39.479 there any other questions in there or is? I think 2038 01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:42.880 you pretty much got all of them, right, I. 2039 01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:44.159 Think so, at least the ones that I saw. 2040 01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:46.960 Yeah, that was great though, thank you for even offering 2041 01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:51.199 to take questions. That was pretty cool. I definitely a. 2042 01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:55.800 Way to make it more simple. Let's say to give 2043 01:45:55.840 --> 01:45:56.840 some examples and one. 2044 01:45:56.960 --> 01:45:58.520 Yeah, well that was another reason I was just going 2045 01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:01.560 to say, I do like how you touch on the kabala. 2046 01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:02.920 There's a lot of times where I even try to 2047 01:46:03.279 --> 01:46:05.359 try to dumb it down. I guess it's fab from 2048 01:46:05.359 --> 01:46:07.960 my wave even understanding what I'm trying to think. But 2049 01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:10.920 you really do make it I think a lot more 2050 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:13.359 easier to try to look at the kabbala. And I 2051 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:15.960 do appreciate that, and that's exactly why I wanted you on. 2052 01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:18.039 So thank you, Matt. 2053 01:46:19.439 --> 01:46:20.800 Appreciate it, Man, super cool. 2054 01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:23.399 Hell yeah, Hellia yo Jan, thank you so much for 2055 01:46:23.479 --> 01:46:25.359 coming on with us. Man, I really do appreciate it. 2056 01:46:26.880 --> 01:46:29.720 Well, you know, Matt is my technically my lodge brother 2057 01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:32.439 as well as a co host on our show as 2058 01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:33.840 well as just my friend. 2059 01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:36.159 And of course I would want him on and be 2060 01:46:36.560 --> 01:46:37.760 on with him if you wanted me. 2061 01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:40.760 And you know I love kabala. I love this kind 2062 01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:43.960 of kabala. Of course, I have a more medievalist perspective. 2063 01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:46.239 I do like medieval Jewish kabala. 2064 01:46:46.319 --> 01:46:47.119 And I initiated it. 2065 01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:50.720 No, I'm not even forty. I had ton tric experiences 2066 01:46:51.159 --> 01:46:53.960 and then I read Ramak. That's that I mean, Matt 2067 01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:56.039 knows the story you've heard it ten million times better 2068 01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:56.920 eleven million times. 2069 01:46:57.000 --> 01:46:58.439 But that's my story. 2070 01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:04.760 It's I understood Kabala through text, but I also understood experientially, So. 2071 01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:09.680 You know, that's basically where that's what you know. 2072 01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.760 Different people have different we would say, different martyrs that 2073 01:47:12.840 --> 01:47:15.760 you take and different kind of roads that you walk, 2074 01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:17.960 so you can study and learn different things. So you're 2075 01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:20.840 not like you can stay sick with a hermoneutic, just 2076 01:47:20.920 --> 01:47:22.159 like I stick with Vargriana. 2077 01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:23.640 But I'm not. 2078 01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:27.560 I don't limit myself to simply what is contained within 2079 01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:31.560 the corpus of aargriana. As many other people who are 2080 01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:36.239 maybe more intermediate, they know because they can see, they 2081 01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:39.640 can recognize, and so if you look at it, there's 2082 01:47:40.039 --> 01:47:44.239 most Vagiana scholarship is done by Jewish people, so they 2083 01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:48.199 clearly recognize that there's a deep similarity even in the 2084 01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:50.800 language they used to translate. So this has been the 2085 01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:54.399 case for like probably one hundred and twenty years. So 2086 01:47:55.560 --> 01:47:58.239 even though I didn't come about it that way, I 2087 01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:00.119 recognize something that. 2088 01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:03.039 Was long recognized. So it just it took me a lot. 2089 01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:06.680 It just it took me thirty plus years to realize it. Oh, 2090 01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:09.199 I agree, that's why that's why I like Matt. That's 2091 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:13.119 why I think cabal is like the new wave, because 2092 01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:15.960 I think that that's this is the right way. So 2093 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:17.760 thank you guys both, I really appreciate that. 2094 01:48:19.159 --> 01:48:22.760 Thank you, thank you a lot. And also, I mean, 2095 01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:26.000 I don't remember if I mentioned but I again, I 2096 01:48:26.119 --> 01:48:29.640 didn't come up with that. I was initiated into it, 2097 01:48:29.920 --> 01:48:33.359 and I have to deeply, deeply appreciate the master in 2098 01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:35.920 this case, will initiated me into it, which it was. 2099 01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:38.439 Just again, if you think, if you guys think I'm 2100 01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:40.880 you know, doing a good job, experience one, that guy 2101 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:44.399 is crazy all over the top, like fucking It's like, 2102 01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:47.479 I'm very lucky to have found someone that good at 2103 01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:49.640 a edit to explain it. And I guess that's what 2104 01:48:49.800 --> 01:48:53.880 made me get it faster. I guess just because yeah, no, no, 2105 01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:59.079 it goes down right. It's like explanation explanential. So yeah, 2106 01:48:59.079 --> 01:49:02.399 I appreciate you guys a lot. I guess, so one 2107 01:49:03.640 --> 01:49:06.199 one last thing, then the one least question. 2108 01:49:06.279 --> 01:49:09.399 Then I guess we can Yeah, somebody was in simulation theory. 2109 01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:13.159 Is that the one Yeah, exactly, simulation theory connected to Kabala. 2110 01:49:13.279 --> 01:49:15.439 So I mean, if you go to my Twitter you're 2111 01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:16.880 going to see. I talk about it all the time. 2112 01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:20.960 I like, I like this idea, but the get it here. 2113 01:49:22.359 --> 01:49:25.319 So very much experience and just I don't know how 2114 01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:27.239 to explain it, but through my experience, Like all right, 2115 01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:29.399 I claim some people may not know because they're newer 2116 01:49:29.479 --> 01:49:31.840 listeners that I do think I have gross the abyss 2117 01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:37.640 and my experience opening up my eyes and seeing how 2118 01:49:37.720 --> 01:49:41.359 light changes has made me question simulation to an intent. 2119 01:49:43.079 --> 01:49:44.119 Yeah, exactly. 2120 01:49:44.319 --> 01:49:46.920 And well I'm just going to leave out the kabala. 2121 01:49:47.079 --> 01:49:49.720 The way I look at it kind of you know, 2122 01:49:49.880 --> 01:49:51.039 adds to that theory. 2123 01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:54.359 All right, I'm going to show you a very cool 2124 01:49:54.359 --> 01:49:57.439 image as well. Nick, I think you're going to appreciate it. 2125 01:49:57.640 --> 01:49:59.720 But I don't know if you can see the website 2126 01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:03.720 I'm trying to share it, I don't know. Okay, that 2127 01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:07.239 should be a brain so smolition theory. Think about it 2128 01:50:07.319 --> 01:50:11.279 this way. We are supposed to be here, down here, 2129 01:50:11.399 --> 01:50:13.760 in this last sphere. And what I mean by here 2130 01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:16.000 is I mean earth, your body earth, like what you're 2131 01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:20.000 experiencing theory, everything you can touch sentence one with your 2132 01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:23.279 body should be here. But as you can see, there 2133 01:50:23.359 --> 01:50:25.800 are a lot of other stuff going on. In your 2134 01:50:25.840 --> 01:50:29.000 head that you cannot really touch. I cannot touch my thoughts, 2135 01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:32.039 but they are there. I cannot touch my imagination. But 2136 01:50:32.159 --> 01:50:36.680 if I'm imagining a tasty like meat right now, I can. 2137 01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:41.600 I can eat it, you know. So it's again, if 2138 01:50:41.600 --> 01:50:44.560 you want to call it simulation, like computer simulation, whatever, cool, 2139 01:50:44.680 --> 01:50:48.800 that's how it should be understood. I guess there are 2140 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:51.840 other spheres of influence and they kind of make this 2141 01:50:52.119 --> 01:50:56.840 world exist. So you give me just one minute, just 2142 01:50:56.920 --> 01:50:57.840 have to answer the darwins. 2143 01:50:57.840 --> 01:51:01.239 Oh yeah, it's fine. I thought that was Jactually, yeah, 2144 01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:04.000 I was like yo Jin's getting a knockout his though. 2145 01:51:07.159 --> 01:51:10.560 All right, well, yeah you're still there. Did you disappear too? 2146 01:51:11.319 --> 01:51:13.560 No, I didn't disappear. Of course I didn't disappear. 2147 01:51:13.880 --> 01:51:14.479 I can't tell. 2148 01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:14.960 No. 2149 01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:17.199 That's funny. Even at one point it was like it 2150 01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:19.119 was like, was that was that for me? Because I'm 2151 01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:21.439 actually waiting for like somebody who would expect my apartment. 2152 01:51:22.319 --> 01:51:23.479 So I was like, at one point I was like that, 2153 01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:24.680 I don't think that was me. It sounded like I 2154 01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:28.239 heard it in my headphones. All right, man, I don't 2155 01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:28.720 think it was me. 2156 01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:29.399 I think I was. 2157 01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:34.960 Sorry about that. I think it's the people are going 2158 01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:35.880 to clean the room here. 2159 01:51:35.960 --> 01:51:39.199 But housecaping everybody to get you out of the Yeah, exactly. 2160 01:51:39.840 --> 01:51:41.600 Oh that's a hotel, too bad. 2161 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:47.159 Yeah. Yeah. I just have a last image I want 2162 01:51:47.159 --> 01:51:48.079 to show you, Nick. I think. 2163 01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:50.039 This one. 2164 01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:54.640 Christis can see. 2165 01:51:57.439 --> 01:51:57.800 This one. 2166 01:51:58.399 --> 01:52:01.600 Oh yeah, so yeah, I know you were talking about 2167 01:52:01.600 --> 01:52:04.039 the the eyes connection stuff and one, so like this 2168 01:52:04.199 --> 01:52:07.079 is the tree. It's just apparently upside down, but it's 2169 01:52:07.079 --> 01:52:09.640 not upside down. It's just because the eyes are up right. 2170 01:52:10.399 --> 01:52:15.760 So that's the idea, Like we have the technology everything 2171 01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:17.640 that we talked about, you know, the tree and so on, 2172 01:52:18.720 --> 01:52:21.760 it's already here. So if we understand how our eyes work, 2173 01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:26.560 how our brain, our hard our stomach, all our lands, everything, 2174 01:52:26.640 --> 01:52:30.199 how it all works, you're understanding about That's what I say. 2175 01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:33.079 If you understand how to be a good basketball player, 2176 01:52:33.119 --> 01:52:35.039 if you understand how to be a good driver, if 2177 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:38.119 you understand how to be a good whatever it is here, 2178 01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:41.000 you're gonna understand the system. That's just about it. So 2179 01:52:41.680 --> 01:52:43.520 I think that's a cool image to kind of illustrate 2180 01:52:43.560 --> 01:52:47.600 how it would be like connected you know in your heads. 2181 01:52:48.479 --> 01:52:50.800 Very well. No, I'm all about that stuff right there, 2182 01:52:50.840 --> 01:52:53.199 So so thank you. It's a great way to leave it. Yeah, 2183 01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:58.239 I guess yeah, I think we're gonna we're good. Yeah. Yeah, 2184 01:52:58.239 --> 01:53:00.159 people are even gonna go do laundry right now. They 2185 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:02.920 got to jump off the shows. It's been long enough 2186 01:53:03.039 --> 01:53:06.960 for people. Matt again, thank you so much, dude. I mean, 2187 01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:08.880 I know I'll have you on the show more often. 2188 01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:11.840 I know you guys have stuff on Friday and night. 2189 01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:14.039 I don't know if I asked you, but I was 2190 01:53:14.079 --> 01:53:16.239 gonna I might have. But you guys are both welcome 2191 01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:17.920 to come on Serpent in the Rainbow with us. But 2192 01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:20.239 I know you guys have your own stick and who 2193 01:53:20.399 --> 01:53:22.680 fuck wants to do four hours of podcasting back to back, 2194 01:53:22.760 --> 01:53:25.359 so you know, but uh yeah, I was just plugging 2195 01:53:25.439 --> 01:53:27.840 that as well. This Friday, we will be covering, uh, 2196 01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:30.880 Serpent in the Rainbow, So come check it out again 2197 01:53:31.520 --> 01:53:33.279 Matt and Jin. I know you guys do your own thing. 2198 01:53:33.359 --> 01:53:36.479 But no, but that is a great film. That is 2199 01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:38.520 a great film, and if we weren't friends, Nick, I 2200 01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:40.640 would steal it from you, even though Matt knows that 2201 01:53:40.680 --> 01:53:42.800 I have actually have a very strong role about like 2202 01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:45.399 never derivative, and I would stick to that. 2203 01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:46.800 That is a great you know, you know. 2204 01:53:46.840 --> 01:53:49.600 What sucks too, is that I'm not expecting because again, 2205 01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:51.680 I know you guys do your own shadow Friday Night said, 2206 01:53:51.680 --> 01:53:52.880 I don't even know if you guys would be done 2207 01:53:52.880 --> 01:53:54.960 before it starts. But like, the thing is is that people, 2208 01:53:55.880 --> 01:53:58.199 in my opinion, unless they listen to you cover it 2209 01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:00.760 on this show, I don't think people know how much 2210 01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:03.720 you actually know about that stuff. So it would have 2211 01:54:03.760 --> 01:54:05.439 been like a nice flex weeks. I think you might 2212 01:54:05.479 --> 01:54:05.960 have surprised. 2213 01:54:07.680 --> 01:54:11.359 Yeah, tradition is way more than people I think even Yeah, 2214 01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:13.319 that's what I'm saying. Even talked about. 2215 01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:17.000 So everybody had their thing that was, like the thing 2216 01:54:17.079 --> 01:54:18.960 in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine was 2217 01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:21.279 to get your head washed in voodoo, and so. 2218 01:54:23.680 --> 01:54:29.880 I was like, why why not? So yeah, young magi what. 2219 01:54:29.960 --> 01:54:31.640 I wanted to play with herbs more. I started looking 2220 01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:35.359 at voodoo. I get it. We all have our reasons. 2221 01:54:38.479 --> 01:54:41.920 But yeah, yeah, so people, that's uh, letting people know 2222 01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:44.359 on the live. If you guys happen to check this, 2223 01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:46.279 check it out. I think the next show going live 2224 01:54:46.359 --> 01:54:49.039 besides the Mailbag this week will be Serpent in the 2225 01:54:49.079 --> 01:54:50.920 Rainbow of Friday Night. We got a bunch of the 2226 01:54:51.039 --> 01:54:55.319 cult rejects, basically just the occult rejects. Uh, coming on 2227 01:54:55.439 --> 01:54:59.920 and talking about it should be pretty interesting. Yeah. Again, 2228 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:01.720 and thank you Matt for coming on. I really do 2229 01:55:01.840 --> 01:55:04.439 appreciate it. And again you're always welcome on the show. Dude, 2230 01:55:05.159 --> 01:55:08.880 like to suck anyone more and hopefully and Gin again, 2231 01:55:09.039 --> 01:55:10.159 thank you for always going on. 2232 01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:10.399 Bro. 2233 01:55:10.520 --> 01:55:14.880 I very much appreciate your angle and things I did see. 2234 01:55:15.199 --> 01:55:17.399 I think a comment in there about the clip off. 2235 01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:19.920 I think I remember somebody's supposed to be doing that 2236 01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:22.920 on the show like a year or two ago. Maybe 2237 01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:25.079 we can see where that person's at in the future, 2238 01:55:25.199 --> 01:55:29.319 maybe get them on the show. To Goude Gin. 2239 01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:36.279 But uh, yeah, I love you know, thes are really 2240 01:55:36.399 --> 01:55:39.880 interesting because I don't have like a Norse perspective on 2241 01:55:40.039 --> 01:55:40.600 the tree. 2242 01:55:41.199 --> 01:55:44.000 I'm not saying that's wrong. I don't think I really 2243 01:55:44.159 --> 01:55:44.560 I don't. 2244 01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:48.600 So you know, everyone who's really tackled to klipers, they 2245 01:55:48.640 --> 01:55:52.520 either take it love crafting or mars And because I 2246 01:55:52.600 --> 01:55:53.920 was Matt and I was like, and as you know, 2247 01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:55.960 Nick like, I take it in a totally different way. 2248 01:55:56.039 --> 01:55:58.960 So like, yeah, it'll be really fun you know where 2249 01:55:59.000 --> 01:55:59.399 that goes? 2250 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:02.800 Yeah, No, but definitely that something in the future, maybe 2251 01:56:02.840 --> 01:56:05.279 we could all of us and maybe some other people could. 2252 01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:07.319 I was branch into that stuff too. 2253 01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:12.479 Oh yeah, Josh, he would. Yeah, that would totally be 2254 01:56:13.119 --> 01:56:13.439 all right. 2255 01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:15.239 So maybe there's a teaser for the future. Maybe one 2256 01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:16.720 day we'll can go come on and talk about the 2257 01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:18.520 couple of keep keep it going with Kabala, you know 2258 01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:21.640 what I'm saying. But yeah, I love talking to who. 2259 01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:25.159 I love talking Kabala, especially with you guys. And I 2260 01:56:25.319 --> 01:56:28.000 really thoroughly enjoyed the series and enjoyed you coming on 2261 01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:31.640 and talking about Kabala again today man, and thank you all. 2262 01:56:31.680 --> 01:56:33.279 In the chat too, I had there was a lot 2263 01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:35.560 of good comments in there. I have been picking up 2264 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:38.479 more people into the Occult, which thank god, thank you 2265 01:56:38.640 --> 01:56:40.800 very much. And I'm getting more comments in the chat 2266 01:56:40.880 --> 01:56:43.079 that are about the occult or their experience with it 2267 01:56:43.199 --> 01:56:45.159 or the way they're looking at it. So check out 2268 01:56:45.159 --> 01:56:47.880 the comments. You know, they're getting more I guess in 2269 01:56:48.039 --> 01:56:50.960 depth or from personal experience when it comes to the Occult. 2270 01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:54.239 So I thank you all for commenting. So I appreciate it. 2271 01:56:54.359 --> 01:56:56.760 That's why I go live, is because I do hope 2272 01:56:57.039 --> 01:56:59.119 to see good stuff added in the chat that wasn't 2273 01:56:59.159 --> 01:57:01.560 mentioned in the show. She again, we don't all have 2274 01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:03.399 the answers. That's why we have tons of people on 2275 01:57:03.479 --> 01:57:05.720 the show trying to make it a polymath, you know 2276 01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:09.239 what I'm saying. So thank you all, and that is 2277 01:57:09.279 --> 01:57:11.640 the end of another Recult Rejects and until the next one, 2278 01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:13.399 everybody be well later