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Evening edition of Cougar Spurts are gonna get spiritual today
because when when things go awry, when things begin to
fall apart, you turn your heart to DNY. You're like,
Heavenly Father, help help me, you know. And BYU, we're
experiencing a little bit of adversity right now. We're on
a losing streak. We spent a decent amount of money
on our staff and our donor base, our corporate entities
that booy up BYU Athletics. They spend some money on
the on the on the personnel, on the roster. And
when you spend money, you have high expectations. And when
you fall short of expectations, that's when there is weeping,
there is whaling, there is gnashing of teeth and right now,
there's a lot of questions out there and they need
to be answered, and we're here to give them. Give you, guys,
all the answers that you are seeking for on your
Utah ESPN Radio Network to break it all down. Les
welcome in executive producer Ronald the three Man Weaver to
this show. Ronnie, how you living?
Speaker 4: Living better? U? Feeling fully healthy?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 5: After the wee can thank goodness. Maybe it was a
losing streak that made me healthy. Maybe it was that
just had to get all manner of sickness out of
my body. No, Ben, I'm feeling great.
Speaker 4: On this Monday.
Speaker 5: Got an opportunity to visit my you know, ma Ama Monor,
and I went down to speak to the next generation
of BA students today. It was good to be able
to present to them of what I've learned and my
journey through this and just give back the best way
I can and hopefully today I made an impact on
somebody's life.
Speaker 1: Good man, joy in the journey. Ladies and gentlemen, you
always gotta give back. I always saying, mamble, we're all mambles, okay,
and mambles need mentorships. So you're only as good as
your mentors. Let's welcome into the show. One of my
personal mentors. We got bread always bring in the hammer
Hammer Time show. What's up? That was not the intro
that I expected to guys. I learned from everybody, you
know what I mean, Like I'm a collaborative I hope
you guys feel it like I'm a collaborative soul. I
like to synergize. I like to collaborate and listen. So yeah,
I learned from Ronnie and I learned from Brett. Your
good decisions and bad decisions.
Speaker 6: There's our band in the day, by the way, Stop
collaborate and listen. Ice is back with a brand new invention,
something very impressive.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean that you know that song?
That's my gen I mean I was. I was in
second grade when Vanilla Ice was hot. Again, this is
me as a casual.
Speaker 6: Does he have like any other songs popular?
Speaker 1: I mean he got a couple, I mean yeah, Ice
Ice Baby, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Vanilla Ice. He he had
his one redeeming song that we still love and still
sight obviously, but he had a couple other songs that
were dece solid to quite solid. A solid portfolio of
of songs really well. I mean, look, all it takes
is one song to make it anyway. I just didn't
know if he had a deep catalog that I was
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If it's a deep cattleg I don't know. Yeah, not
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but Ice, we could do that. I mean, look, the
basketball team is as cold as ice. Yeah, that might
be the band of the day to sacrifice, right, That's
how we're feeling about this team. Four game losing streak.
Which one hurts you the most? Obviously the Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State game, but maybe it was the Houston game.
Maybe it's because, like, hey, if you had beaten Houston,
what can I cuss on?
Speaker 6: Here?
Speaker 1: I guess on here? You know you know what I mean? Like,
because even if you had lost three straight, you lost
to Oaklhanma said, but you beat the Houston Cougars at home.
You did what you were supposed to do at home,
then all would have been forgiven. It would have been forgiven.
The grace is sufficient, you know what I mean. You
beat the Houston Cougars, who were were only a two
lost team, so they jumped six spots. I think, by
the way, five spots dropped. I know, oh, Houston, did
they just there? I believe three down? Yeah, people, n
BA basketball dropped six spots. Six spots correct, Yes, twenty
second in the nation.
Speaker 4: I agree above those by the way, I think those
are great, Houston.
Speaker 6: Does that make you feel good to know that, like
you were a good enough win to jump use into
the threes?
Speaker 1: Like? Is that in like a weird silver lining type
of way? Is that positive? I don't know. You know,
you begin to evaluate in this basketball saga, how the
roster was constructed in the offseason, right, were they able
to understand the you know, the the skill sets that
they had last year that got him to sweet sixteen
and and say, look, this is what you know we
did well, this is our core leadership. You know, like
foos what he was able to do in his isolbot
o block lowblockscoring. Was he good in pick and roll?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Did he fumble the bag every now? And again when
he was a mid range he had no front facing game,
absolutely no front facing game. But he never ebounded like
yeah he could rebound, he could he could put back. Uh,
he had a back to the basket game that was
one of the best NBAU basketball history. Quite honestly, pick
and roll not good could not you know, he did
not know what to do when he got the ball
in the paint and he was looking at the basket
for my age like he would he was he'd be
better off catching it and then immediately turning around and
like backing someone down. Heya Trevinell sharpshooter, catch and shoot right,
Dallan Hall a guy that could play with the ball
in his hands, but also off ball like he proved that.
I thought last year obviously Dawson he had come back.
And but you look at the leadership. Tray Stewart, great defender,
what mo what mag Right? A three and D guy,
And you just don't have the supporting cast that you
did last year. No, do you have the tenure And
I think you have plenty of talent, but you don't
have the tenure. You don't have that continuity, that chemistry,
that cohesion and that's what's missing right now. It's unfortunate,
and we don't really know who's going to step up,
Like we don't know who's going to be that four man,
five man, six man's Like we're just looking for number four,
Like who can be consistently the number four man contributor?
I I know, I put it to a most of
us bafans have been more frustrated with the defense. I'm
to the point like whell, yeah, I mean I'm frustrated
with the defense, but like I just want somebody else
to get a bucket. I want somebody else to score,
because if you can stay on pace, you're in that game.
Like I don't know how many teams out there really
slow down Houston. I don't know how many teams really
slow down U of A. I don't know how many
teams really slow down Kansas. Like yeah, you want to
be a great defensive team, no doubt. But you know,
I kind of grew up in the Bayu basketball era
with Jim Or when no one was really playing defense.
Man demand we're playing zone to conserve energy for the
offense side of the ball, where where we really shine.
Or I grew up kind of in the beheim Era
like it was zone defense, and they played great zone defense,
but it allowed for them to really showcase their abilities
on the offensive end. And so we have seen implementation
of zone defense and it maybe hurts you a little
bit at times for Houston when they're hot. But and
maybe we'll see that going forward. But I don't know.
I'm at a loss right now for this BAU basketball
team because I'm questioning how we went about, you know,
just just composing this this this team. I know injuries
played a role. Nate Pickens and Dawson Baker those those
are your two primary injuries.
Speaker 6: One And what's funny is Kevin Young mentioned like he
what we're talking about right now. He has a whole
conversation about just that in his media availability from today.
So I'm excited for us to get to that tomorrow
because it's i mean, like all the things that we
are saying, and we're wondering if they know Kevin Young
literally is saying, like, dude, this is an issue. He
even said, uh, he said, I can't remember the last
time I had three guys who all got seasons ending injuries.
Because he's like even Brody's Kaslowski wo been playing right now,
So it's it's I mean, they know, they are fully
aware of what is going on right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel for him, no doubt about it. You know,
guys need to step up. Mehilo needs to step up. Uh,
Tyler Moras a Lexi Coast would be nice for those
guys to step up. Hadeem, you know, I just don't
know if he Deem's ever gonna be an offensive threat.
I just don't see it. Do you feel like he
got more minutes?
Speaker 6: I don't know if I haven't looked at the numbers,
but it felt like he played more in that Houston game,
and I felt like it was positive to have him.
Speaker 1: On the floor more. Honestly, he just you can't match
him up against a point guard like he's gonna kick
some t I mean, kicks is gonna cook anything. Everybody
in Eddy.
Speaker 4: Bro he could he was, I mean he was cooking Robin.
Speaker 5: To me, that was Rob's I thought best defensive performance
been Actually just think Rob.
Speaker 6: I'm glad you bring that up, Roun because I thought
Rob played better defense against Houston than he has this season.
Speaker 4: Which makes me get up.
Speaker 5: And again that goes another question, like brettis Posen are
you more upset that Robb was playing better defense against Houston?
So does that mean he wasn't trying on the other games?
Like was he not locked in? Like that makes you think,
you know?
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we BYU versus the Houston Cougars. Let's let's go with
Kevin Young first and foremost. Let's get into number one. Kevin,
to what do you attribute the missed late second changes
on the glass too?
Speaker 7: Not sure got to see it on the tape, but
one on one battles is what it looked like from
the sideline disappointing because that's that misfreet thos. It felt like,
you know, we had our chances and didn't capitalize. And
you know the disappointing part is, you know, in the
time out, literally right before that, you know, I said,
hey man, look this game is gonna get one or
loss on the glass, you know, and we just we
weren't able to come up with it. You know, I
gotta look at the tape some of the coach you
were saying, AJ was leaking out a little bit. Got
to get back in the fight. But you know, it's
easy to go at the bigs in that scenario because
the Bigs were the ones that were getting the ball.
It felt like, but then that's where I go to
the one on one battles. Got to be better.
Speaker 1: So obviously rebounding was an issue. Misfree throws were an
issue at the bigs. They're limited, right, they just are.
We have we have issues with our bigs right now.
Foos would be nice right now, no doubt. I mean,
we're seeing kind of the glaring weakness of our bigs.
Keba Is is an amazing athlete and a really good
rebounder when he's not going against you know seven footers
and with seven plus uh you know seven first foot
in in in uh in wingspan in elite length, Like
he's more of a let's say he's more of a
four than he is a traditional five, right, And he's
a rim rock in rim running, just freak of an athlete.
And he got out rebounded and and it is what
it is. Abdullah Achmed the G League acquisition for many,
he's been disappointing. For many. He's been you know, he
hasn't necessarily stepped up as he should. But you know,
realize he didn't have an offseason with this team either,
So like I didn't have super duper high expectations for
a late acquisition like Abdullah Achmed, even if he's coming
from the G League. Now, if you said Eric Meek
is coming from the G League, yeah you know what
I mean. Yeah, like a hundred percent. Abdula wasn't doing
anything great in the G League. It's not like he
was putting up numbers. He wasn't just putting up ridiculous statistics.
He was a middling big man that had some ups
and potential. You didn't see the upside of potential he
can handle, Like I mean, he's got good athleticism, he
can rebound, he can shot block, like like, there's there's
some good core competencies within Abdullah's you know, his his
skill set, but it was disappointing, to say the least.
And I just don't know what the answer is. I
don't know if small ball is the answer. I don't
know if it be high low with Hadeem right is
the answer, you know, Like, I just don't know. I
don't know if anyone really knows what the answer is.
Because there's a certain amount of this that is predicated
off of the individual skill set, in the individual effort
that they're showcasing in practice and in games. There's really
nothing that that gives you hope that by us big
men are really going to figure it out. Unless Keba, somehow,
some way it just does something remarkable with his offensive
scoring potential. I just don't see it. I just don't
know where the hope is as it pertains to your
bigs right now. It's a tough spot.
Speaker 6: And the weird part about that is like that's not
one that's not a position on this team that was
torn down due to injury, Like.
Speaker 1: The guard line. We could have that conversation.
Speaker 6: Sure, but it's not like you had guys that you
thought you would have and then you lost them, Like, yeah,
this was kind of what you knew you were gonna
be playing with when you got into the season. In fact,
you added somebody that you didn't plan on having.
Speaker 1: And what would this thing look like without Beata?
Speaker 6: Would they have been forced to play a different brand
of basketball?
Speaker 1: Maybe? I don't know, But what I do know is
I think Boya has a much better shot at the game.
Speaker 6: If somebody is able to get a single rebound in
that last five minutes, I mean, good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wonder if it was it more positioning and
you gotta go back and check tape, right the is
it positioning? Is it effort? Is it just being out athleted? Right?
Like if verwell could be you're just out athleted. They're longer,
they're stronger, they're they're down to get the friction, honor,
you know what I mean. They just know how to
get up a little bit high, higher than your athletes.
That's very well could be what it is. I hate
to to succumb to that. But at the same time,
you're like, you know, it seemed like Houston is they
did it last year against BYU too. They were doing
the same thing last year, getting offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds,
second look, second shots, That's what they did. So anyway,
let's continue down the line of question with K Why.
How did you feel, K why about the overall discipline
from your team and fight after a tough three game skit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's a good point. You know, we're upset
that we didn't win the game. You know, another great
opportunity that we let go, which is unfortunately for us,
has been too many against the highest of caliber teams
in the country. You know, we just we can't seem
to uh finish the job, and that's disappointing. However, I
was happy with the response.
Speaker 1: I thought I was.
Speaker 7: I mean, since I've been at b YU, that was
the hardest I've ever got I've gone at the team,
you know, in terms of the things I was saying
to them, the film, I was showing them the practice,
the practice and so forth. So I did think they responded,
which for me, this was gonna be a I'm gonna
learn a lot about our group.
Speaker 1: Type of game.
Speaker 7: Again, Disappointed we didn't pull the win out, but I
thought the response out of the guys, given the stretch
that we're going through, you know, was admirable.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like there was an intensity change. Did
you see visibly, tangibly that this team was putting forth
a better effort on the basketball court? Brett Hammer Ronald
after him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, offensively, I don't really think effort fixes a whole
lot of things outside of.
Speaker 1: Rebounding. I mean, you obvious see Richie flying through.
Speaker 6: The air, but so so from that standpoint, I mean,
you just gotta make shots on the defensive stamp end, though,
I do feel like Hadem played better defense, which we
knew he could play defense, I felt like maybe we
just saw him play more minutes than we typically see.
I thought Rob played better defense than we typically see.
So it's hard because I do feel like in this game,
they did try to change, and they did try to improve,
and they did have a mentality boost. However, when you
feel like you change and you still get the same result,
it's hard to feel like what you did is validated.
So I hope that Kevin Young finds the right way
the right pieces to extract and still like nurture those flames.
While saying, hey, I realized we didn't get the outcome
that we wanted, but we did improve. And I think
the other part of this is like it is just
a really sucky part of the schedule, man where you
gotta play Arizona, Kansas, Houston all within a manner of
like two weeks. That does suck. However, that doesn't excuse
Oklahoma State. And maybe your argument is, well, they're just
so run down from all those other big games that
Oklahoma State's stuck up on him and it was a
mentality thing.
Speaker 1: I get that. To answer your question, though, I do
feel like.
Speaker 6: Defensively, this team put in more effort than we have
seen from them prior.
Speaker 5: I did notice the intensity difference. Ben for sure, from
start to finish, was very impressed with them. Again, it
bodes my question of rob with the defense that I
said before, the nitty gritty it makes you think of
where's that intensity like the whole season? You know, you wonder,
but sometimes it takes to get kicked in the button right.
Speaker 4: A little bit maybe for it.
Speaker 5: But I'm also with Brett, you're at the point where
it's too late where it's hard to feel validation because
of that. Now, if they would have won the game,
and it would have happened, but still so it's like, Okay,
so you play with better intensity, but it's still.
Speaker 4: The same results.
Speaker 5: So nothing's changed because your intensity can change, but if
you don't win the game, it's different. But I'm starting
to think, like, all right, well, what would have happened
if you'd have played with that intensity the whole game
against Arizona, maybe you would have won. Oklahoma State, you
win that game, even if it's not by fifteen. If
they play with that same intensity against Baylor, they can win.
But that's not the problem though, the problem still is
this team struggles at playing defense in the most critical moments,
which I'm teasing a little bit, but a certain play
on this team is going to talk about how they
didn't execute the last five minutes. This team does not
close our games strong, and if you don't do that,
you're not gonna win a lot of ball games.
Speaker 1: Ben, Yeah, I think there's two things I'm disappointed in
right now. You know, it's it's Canard going one of
seven from the three point line, Richie going for one
of six, and then you're Bigs not being able to
make layups, not being able to put you know, put
put backs up fifty percent of the time, like you
should be able to hit you know, fifty percent of
those those semi contested putbacks right when Cape is one
of six and you know, I guess at Doula it
was two or four. A deem was over two. They
just get wild down there. They get wild and and
there it's almost like they're too twitchy, they're too too scared,
and and and it's just it's it's frenetic. There's a
certain amount of freyneticism. It's not a smooth it's not
these aren't smooth movements. Uh and and look they can
get it can get pretty raucous in the middle. It
can get pretty physical down there, there's no doubt. But
uh we we we had issues. Those are the two
things that I looked at. I'm like, man, you know,
if you're gonna have complaints about something, those are those
are a couple of things you're gonna complain about. Those
are the guys. I mean, I'm losing patience with Kennard.
I'll be honest if I he he was good defensively.
I saw a great effort from him defensively. He had
six rebounds, two steals, and so I thought he did
a good job there. I I hate his mechanics. I
abhort his Sewan Marion, but Seawn Marion shot but not
Sean mary efficiency from the three point line. It's just
it's just it's take a take a half second more,
you're freaking wide open and just hit the shot. You know,
that'd be nice. He says, like a lights are too
bright kind of thing. Is that what it is?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: I think I just think he you know, I think
he's had to speed up his mechanics. I think all
players that move up a level, especially to the big twelve,
I just think they speed up their mechanics get their
shot off, especially when you have a low shot release.
It's not like he has a high shot release. He's
coming from the forehead. Does that make sense? Yeah, so
when you have a he's six six six', five but
he's coming from the. Forehead so, Anyway, uh you, know
there's not the right answer. Here i'm talking about my Boy.
Keith or's, like we just don't have. Debt this is
what he's. Saying it's as simple as. That AND i
wonder what the roster, composition uh if it is if
they're so focused on these extremely high level guys like you,
know everyone's everyone's asking the question right, now how much
have we pay for this? Roster and was it really worth?
It you know WHAT i? Mean like you better be
you know you? Better you know know what you got? Now,
Granted dawson got, injured he ruptured his knee right And
Nate pickens could have been really. Good it's hard to
account for. Injuries and you, know maybe you Thought Alexa
kocik that was kind of in a late, acquisition as
was as those B Do Abdull. Lockman those were both
late editions that they're, like we have an issue, here
we gotta go get these, guys you know WHAT i?
Speaker 4: Mean then CAN i jump in?
Speaker 5: There And i'm gonna Give keith push, Back LIKE i
disagree a little. Bit the BIG's gotta play, Better ben
Like Houston's biggs played, BETTER i felt like to a,
Degree so, like, YEAH i hear, that but like, no
like if If Kaba abdullah and Uh hadeen played, better
AND i know people gonna say A ms for our free.
Speaker 4: THROWS i mean he gave you twenty on fourteen.
Speaker 5: Shots shut, up please stop talking about, that you, guys
like that's low hanging fruit that's not.
Speaker 1: Ball, yeah, okay so let them let's level set. Here
Has cabad gotten better from last year to this? Year?
Speaker 4: NO I i got.
Speaker 1: Right so that's a dolement, issue that's a coaching staff.
Issue hundred the. Team we didn't really get to see,
him so we don't know how good he was last.
Year today we're assuming that he probably.
Speaker 4: Got better because because he didn't play last.
Speaker 5: Year because of, THAT i, mean he's knocking down three
so we're seeing that Of like, okay so like to
me this, Game BEN i thought was on.
Speaker 1: That, Hi bobskovic another big. Guy, Okay so like those
are a couple of. Examples it's, like, okay like where
where's the development? Piece and why aren't they? Improving why
aren't they getting better within their skills? Set why aren't
they becoming more? Refined is that on the? Player is
that on the? Coach and we go round and round
chicken or the? Egg and eventually someone's got to stand
up and raise their hand and, Say i'm taking. Accountability
i'm taking accountability for, this AND i don't know if
we have that, yet And cougar fans will eventually want
to hear who's taking? ACCOUNTABILITY i does that makes? Sense it?
Does who's accountable? Here?
Speaker 4: Right that's just, Tough LIKE i don't know how you Miss?
Ben like you saw.
Speaker 5: It he gets the, Rebound i'm, like all, right go
up and dunk, it and then he just goes right
over the rim and the.
Speaker 4: Airballs Like i'm just, like what what? Is what is? That?
Speaker 1: Ben?
Speaker 5: Like And i'm teasing What kevin's gonna get to and
what he's gonna he's gonna make a comment on. It
but like been, that and THEN i think down the
stretch of When hadeem, fouled like he's got to be.
Better you can't jump over the guy when they're in
the one and one and put him at the free throw.
Line you have to understand IF i, foul they go
to the free throw. Line he did that twice and
then Again hadeem And kiba not bad not grabbing, rebounds
Giving houston second chance offensive, Rebounds LIKE i, mean what
else do you want from a jam From?
Speaker 1: ROB i Mean?
Speaker 4: Richie they Had richie in his pocket On.
Speaker 5: Saturday, look the BIG's gotta play, Better LIKE i blame
this one of Like kevin's gonna give the stats in a.
Second BUT i was disappointed in WHAT i saw From.
Kieba Obviously knar can't shoot two of, nine but disappointing
WHAT i saw From.
Speaker 4: Kaba hadeem and beat you they. Got they gotta play
better As.
Speaker 1: Biggs, well the, catching the the pick and pop, situations
that's All knark like he. Gets he gets so many
freaking looks and pick and pop and he hits very.
Few come, on and not only, that like you, know
LIKE i, know he had a big game, recently so
we would give credit to, that but there has to
be some form of. Concisuent he's below thirty percent now
from Three when you get as many pick and pop
situations as he does that are, UNCONTESTED i, Mean i'm
beginning to, Like i'm asking a QUESTION i asked everyone in.
There i'm, like you, KNOW i was watching the games with.
Me i'm, like IF i gave you three weeks and
all you did was picking pop, threes set shots semi to,
uncontested how many of those can you? Hit can you
hit thirty? Percent maybe possibly that he's got to be better,
There he's got to be. Better, okay let's get back
to number. Three let's get through a couple more of
these sound. Bites, kay why we've asked you in the
past about free throw. Struggles can you do? It and
by the, way last year we had free throw struggles, too,
true we had free throw. Struggles they got it dialed
in For march, though taking some extra time to put
in the. Reps can you do anything outside of guys
just making them, no.
Speaker 4: That's, It, Nope, nope that's.
Speaker 1: It young might be the most honest coach In.
Speaker 6: AMERICA i truly believe that he's not afraid of what
anyone is gonna.
Speaker 1: Say He's the answer, IS i don't you? Know this
is it's an interesting it's an interesting. Commentary Frankfurt scilla
during the game was like he he made a commentary
the staining like K y got after his team this.
Week you typically don't yell at, pros and he's treating
this team as he treats. Pros it's there's pros and
cons to every way of. Coaching you can Be izzo
who's like all over his squad all day every. Day
he loves him up and he's just holding him accountable
every single. Turn. Right that's not the pro way, Though
and SO i understand What ky why is doing you
gotta Be you gotta align with your brand who you.
Are this is how you coach and things that nature.
Right but you wonder does that affect the after practice
repetition and putting in the lonely work like putting up
one hundred freaking free throws at the end of, practice
and how many of those guys are doing? It and
is there a call to action for? That maybe there.
Is we don't. Know we're not there at The Merritt center.
Annex we don't. Know i'll give you an example on, Football,
like you, know how do you create a scenario that's
high pressure for your. Kicker, well you turn on the,
sound you have the entire team around your hooting and.
Hollering you create a competitive, situation and you have the
media there. Too that's a great thing to do if
the media is there to, say, oh you, know the
kicker missed three field goals during the TEAMS i remember, That,
ronnie when we're watching. That oh, yeah you want to
create high. Pressure you do, it like you know WHAT i, Mean,
like that's what you. Do you have to create these
scenario of high pressure because when they get in the,
games you want them desensitized. Completely you want to be.
Deadened you want to be deadened by all of the,
distractions to the point of you have an art of
not giving a, care not Giving uh you, know there's
a book you can read, It The art of not
giving a formication under The consent of The, king and
and so like the because, look we're. Bad we're not.
Good we're not a good free throw shooting. Team and
it can, change it can. Change but we got to
figure that out, too and and so it was just
a kind of a thought THAT i. Had i'm, like
look like we got to figure out. Something we've got
to do something, different, Right, Kevin, Kevin kevin And beadho
missed quite a few shots at the. Rim, uh we
are we aren't necessarily used to SEEING i guess we're
used to seeing them make. Those is that basically just
hurrying too fast Because houston is a good.
Speaker 7: TEAM i don't, know you're being nice to those guys
will make a. SHOT i don't know what else to.
SAY i, mean the three of the two of them
were three of ten, combined and.
Speaker 1: Then three of eight from the free throw.
Speaker 7: Line so those are basically seven miss layups and five
miss free throws between your two back and your two
centers not good.
Speaker 1: Enough that's the accountable that you want to. HEAR i
will say this. Much i'll give the kids in a
little bit of. Raise we've all been in that situation
where you're hurrying up your mechanics after a rebound put.
Back you don't have to be A division one athlete
to feel that pressure and he kind of you try
to body them up and kind of, like you, know
kind of get it up before the hand comes to
swats it out of the, way like it felt Like
Keba hadiem and even and beat. You they all kind
of felt, it you. Know and if they, didn't if
they were too casual like Akamaner doula was Or Abdul lachman.
Was he, got he, got tugler, bler he got and
how to. Tuggy that's.
Speaker 5: FUNNY i like. That and that's. Funny, ben that's a
really GOOD i need to cut that up for. Later But,
ben that one's sad Because aj made a dime pass
out of the double and it was quick and then
you gets stuffed And i'm, like.
Speaker 4: Dude what do you?
Speaker 5: Do like you going up too? Slow and then he
obviously made the adjustment because of what you do on next.
One he stuffed it down. Immediately But i'm so disappointed In,
kVA like you're not dunking the ball like you You
it's So AND i know some people have put out
tweets of, oh you, know it's not the lob of
picking roll that got nothing to do with making a.
Layup you on't need lobs to make a. Layup you
only need lobs to dunk a, basketball like that's your.
Job like so it's, LOOK i Know bdo is not
gonna be the offensive feat like you, mentioned but it
was disappointing to See Caba dowey he do and Hadem and,
LOOK i know people are gonna say, depth that is your.
Speaker 4: Depth you brought In hadeem for to be the.
Speaker 5: Four you brought him in last year to Developed cable
was coming back And exavion hasn't been what you, Thought
like that is who you. Have so to, me it's Not,
debu you just those guys have to play better at
the end of the. Day i'm sorry they. Do And
kanark can't go to a nine like right. Now AND
I brett would agree with this and maybe get into
this on the flip, side BUT i think a lineup
change is, Coming, ben AND i think you're gonna see
a deem play because we saw in the game his
ability to guard one through five and he was, phenomenal
like defensively until he calls you, know a few foulsd
to put him at the. LINE i loved WHAT i
saw and when it Took canard off the, floor AND
i think that might be a.
Speaker 4: Secret maybe.
Speaker 1: These are basic things That i'm, Like i'm, Wondering like,
if for, instance In abdullah's, Situation i've always been taught
use the rim to to impact. Defenders you know WHAT i,
mean use the rim to impact. Defenders so in that, case,
right they're going straight. Up if you've got a great
shot blocking team that's, lanky, athletic good, jumpers you better
be cognizant of your. Putbacks you have to use the
rim to your. Advantage that means coming up with the,
left you, know acting like you come up with the,
right but come up with a lefe kiss it off
the glass with a head and put it In and guess,
What tug's going to go to the center bo of.
You he's coming up to. You he's gonna come. Right
it's THAT i hate to say it's that. Easy everyone's,
like you're a you're a football. Player i'm, like, THERE i,
LOOK i get. It but, like these are things THAT
i was taught playing high school basketball from some good.
COACHES i, thought, anyway we got some. Issues we're trying
to solve them. Here, uh and they got to get coached.
Up there was a POINT aj made a couple of
free throws and then you took him. Out this was
another controversial, thing, Right why did why DID aj come?
Out why was he taken out when you had about
one minute remaining before any whistle there's an under four
minute you, know any whistle goes to. IT i think
A tv time, OUT i believe If i'm not mistake.
Right so it's, like, wait we got one more minute? Left,
like let him stay out? There why why Pull? Aj? There?
Okay why he's about to pass? Out? Yeah so in
the post, GAME i let let's, uh let LET'S i
don't know what number this. IS aj was, asked was
he about to pass? Out? RIGHT i think it's number.
Six we got a couple of these two here A
j number. SIX aj coach said he was going to
take you out after you made the free. Throws it
because you were about to pass? Out was it that? Dire?
NAH i was, good THOUGHT i needed.
Speaker 8: Rest he usually trying to take me, out like right
before the media, timeout SO i can get extra.
Speaker 1: Minute But nile's.
Speaker 8: GOOD i don't know WHY i said.
Speaker 1: It, Okay so this is there's a couple of things. Here.
Okay SO i THINK aj has that that corona flute
that's been going. Around you can, tell like with the,
name it's like a it's a sound. Stuff my wife had.
IT I i had talked to two of my my.
Coworkers they got they're getting destroyed by it right. Now they're,
like bet there were bet one was bedritten all last
week and then one's bed ridden right. Now it gets, you,
bro like you gotta you gotta get to, zinc your VITAMIN,
d your VITAMIN. C you gotta do your nasal, sprays
your salt. Goggles you gotta be taking day. Quill you
gotta be taking n. Quill you got you gotta get
a a like some some what HAVE i a AN
idv going on You, anyway you could tell he was
a little bit. Sick so you begin to see the
clear picture on maybe What kyk was. Seeing and then
you hear LIKE aj LIKE i was, Fine like he's sniffed.
Anyway maybe it was maybe it was His corona flu.
Game it could have.
Speaker 6: Been it's interesting, that like If kevinan really thought he
was like about to, die let's pass.
Speaker 1: Out he just made both his free.
Speaker 6: Throws he's had times where he wasn't sick and he
wasn't tired and he missed.
Speaker 1: Them so WHAT i, Like i'm not making fun of,
Him AND i want to know what the after he
hits Does, hey we're going two three zone, Guys i'm
leaving my guy in my star the you know one
of the three that's really playing. WELL i guess two
or the three were playing well With rob, Right i'm
leaving him. In and because this is a big, win
that's a resume, win that's a huge. Win it completely
it erases the three. LOSSES i, agree it erases the three.
Losses it doesn't. Matter Oklahoma state doesn't matter. Anymore you
were lost on the, road that was a quad one.
Loss you Beat, houston who's now the number three. Team
you gotta find a way to do it at that.
Moment for seating, issues for seeding. Ventures, okay let's get
back to it we're going number, eight you, said, yeah
just you will add up about the. Fatigueness, okay a
j how fatigued was he in the? Game he still
went for twenty eight points on fourteen.
Speaker 7: Shots, yeah And, JAY i wasn't trying to be snappy
at your question like he you, KNOW i think some
of that rebounding was on his, part, Right and SO
i knew the media was getting ready to, come and
so you thought you could steal like another extra minute
less than, that to be honest with, you BECAUSE i
was playing a call of time out and then just
instead of him getting the full media getting an extra thirty.
Seconds so that that's what went in that. Decision but
as far AS i, mean he was great, tonight you
know it was when he's rolling like, that you don't
you want to take him off the. Floor but you,
KNOW i am going to challenge him a little bit
about making sure he's doing all the right, things taking
care of his, bodies he eating the right, Things he's
drinking enough, Liquids is he getting enough? Sleep because you,
know we, need we need him out there as much
as as we possibly can have him out.
Speaker 1: There like you, SAID i, mean this tells. Me you,
KNOW aj, six what IS ky? Saying? Hey are you
getting enough? Sleep you get enough, rest you take your,
vitamins you, know are You are you doing everything that
you need to do to take your body so THAT
i can play you forty? Minutes AND aj very well
could be. Right we don't, know but he. Is he
was a little bit, sick got a little bit run.
Down we don't know all the things that went into,
this So i'm gonna give you some. Grace. THERE i
understand a little bit more of the. Story now let's
take a brief time. Out we'll come, back finish up
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These these comments From ky finishing up the sound after
this devastating four game losing. Streak falling to The Houston
cougars was disappointing to say the. Least k why there
was a? Point, sorry let's go number. Six Coach samson
talked about the fact that they really focused on Shutting
Richie saunders. Down did you see that? Yourself, yeah they
were great On.
Speaker 7: RICHIE i thought they did a good job one on
one defense and then on the threes as. Well so
that was a you, know a big part clearly of
their game, plan which you, know they did a good.
Speaker 1: Job on, him did a great job on. HIM i, Mean,
RICHIE i see him to run for. It he was
trying to Like Steph curry, Everywhere LIKE i love Watching steph.
Play people ask, me, like who do you love watching
play in THE, Nba And i'm, LIKE i still love
Watching steph because he's having to run Like miles On
miles just to get, open you know WHAT i. Mean
he's just he's, uh he's a great ball. Handler he's
got a great, handle super like the quickest release. Ever
and he's the greatest shooter IN nba history. Too so
like all those, things, uh you, know make it fun to.
Watch so you know who used to like IN bau,
Basketball hiss who used to run around all freaking game
and and everyone tried to stop, Him Tyler. HAWES i,
remember Like utah implement implemented like a box and one
to slow him. Down and, uh you, Know houston didn't
have to do a boxing. One they just had great
one on one. Defense they had the best defenders against
him and made his life a living. Hades it was
tough For richie to get open, looks and he was.
Fatigued he was tired having to run. EVERYWHERE a great
job By Kelvin sampson and This Houston cougar basketball. Team
last thing from K Why, kevin when you're in a
situation with a team where you're having a hard time
getting a, win what's the bounce between changing things up
to try to get them out of, it out of the,
funk and sticking to what you've done thus.
Speaker 7: Far, Yeah, no IT'S i think when you when you
lose in a fashion that's. UGLY i think it's easy
to make changes when you're losing in a fashion and
like you feel like you're right, there it's a little bit.
Harder but that being, SAID i mean everything's on the
table as far as us examining, things and, uh you,
know it's just it's a situation that we're, where you,
know because of the sum of the injuries that we've,
had with the season ending, injuries you, know you we're
searching a little bit obviously off the, bench and so you,
know you can make an argument to maybe then put
one of the starters on the bench and put a
bench guy in so that you do have something a
little bit, more we're potentially coming off the, bench so
everything's being. Examined but but again it's a great. Question
and LIKE i, said if you're losing in a way
where you're, like oh, man you don't even feel like
you have a, shot it's easy to make.
Speaker 1: Changes but you, KNOW i sound like a.
Speaker 7: Broken, record BUT i, mean, okay so like What, Arizona, Yukon,
Houston Texas. Tech you're right there to win all those
games doing doing it the way we've been doing, it
but it's not good enough because we're not. Winning and so,
uh those those decisions keep me up at night for.
Speaker 1: Sure, guys anything there that you guys want to chime in. On,
look this is this is obviously Keeping ky up at.
Night he went THROUGH i remember last week it WAS
i went through every single defensive. Set we talked about.
INTENSITY i showed every he was accountable with. Them, Right
so he's going through every single defensive sets, saying, hey
this is what you. Know he may be attacking a
j he may be Attacking Rob. Right we saw an
increase in effort From Rob. Right the Third Connard Davis
junior really stepped up. DEFENSIVELY i thought and looked better
and his, Intensity like there's guys that are being called.
OUT i think is it too little too? Late? Though
should that that, pressing that that fire? Lit should that
have been lit a little bit sooner than this last?
Week is the, Question, ronnie your.
Speaker 5: Thoughts, Yeah i'm thinking about this right And i'm trying
to be accountable of what's the best, way in the
right way to go about. THIS i think there's a
little bit of, obviously you, know everybody's ego plays a.
Factor kevin's fighting against, himself you, KNOW i think with
this because he's seeing the stuff on table they're attacking
rob where they're attacking, this and then it's, like, Well,
kevin just look at the film and then look at the.
Tape you see that a guy's missing. Shots you saw
on tape that a guy you brought in is playing
phenomenal minutes being able to go one through five like
you need a lineup change you, do maybe couldn't and
it doesn't, hurt, Right, okay you bring a demon and,
okay you know you Put canardo on the bench and
you Bring conard. Off what if it, works like you
not taking the checks and doing nothing is gonna hurt
you our thing longer than just keeping things the.
Speaker 4: Same and that's what he's, Fighting LIKE i hear it
in his.
Speaker 5: Voice he wants to keep it the same because he's,
like well on, tape it's not working and they're doing
the same. Thing but at the same, time it's, like
you gotta try something, Different Like Kevin, young is the
definition of insanity right?
Speaker 4: Now you're doing the same.
Speaker 5: Thing fifty five different, Ways, Ben but is the outcome?
DIFFERENT i don't think, So like it's. Not AND i
think he needs to challenge himself and, say you know,
What i'm gonna put a guy on the bench And
i'm gonna bring it. Differently but you know WHAT i
think it. Is and, look and this is not a
conversation we need to. START i think he might be
worried that if he does, that a canar or what
does that do to him mentally because his team menstality
and mentally is already struggling a little, bit and that
might just deplinish a.
Speaker 1: Player how can it get worse, THOUGH i mean the,
kid you.
Speaker 4: Can always get.
Speaker 5: Worse look how instead of One look How cannon checked
out and they did with the lack of this team's.
Depth With, cannon you could just leave him on the
bench and they had the, guys If kanar does What cannon.
Does And i'm being on And i'm presenting if this
were to, Happen i'm not saying that this is who canarready.
IS i don't, know but if it were to turn
into bad body language or attitude or, entitlement now you
don't have a. Choice you're stuck because you need that.
Body SO i don't know if it's to keep it,
happy if he really believes. That But, ben something's not,
Right AND i love your, thoughts but that's just SOMETHING i.
NOTICED i feel, like why you continue to go in
the definition of, okay you're?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 4: Kay why you? All you're?
Speaker 5: There you're, there but you lost all those, games so
obviously it's not even with you looking at the.
Speaker 1: Tape i'm a big body language. Guy you, guys you
guys heard me talk about, it you, know so DO
i always Like Cannar Davis junior's body WHICH i thought
it was much improved this last. GAME i really did.
AGREE i saw a stark difference in body, language especially
on the defensive, end and good effort on the. Offense
veen he just didn't hit, shots and he's just not
a very good, shooter just at least not this. Year he's.
Not so let's call. It let's let's wrap this up
with a few other sound bites FROM aj And rob
shall We, uh let's get into number. ONE, aj what
was the scattery report going going in Against? Houston how
do you feel like you guys executed? It?
Speaker 8: Yeah me, PERSONALLY i kind of knew they were going
to like blitz the bottle. Line that's kind of what
they're known, for being. Aggressive but the main thing was
just numb being on the glass, more it's kind of
the identity that kind of crashed the. Glass as good as,
anybody not better than. Everybody so we just tried to
master physicality of the. Glass, well obviously we came up.
Speaker 4: Short.
Speaker 1: Came up, short and it was. Unfortunate what do you
Attribute houston getting second chance? Scoring uh consistently at the
end of the game. TOO i, mean it's what we
just got. BLOCKOUT i just gotta do.
Speaker 8: It there's no excuse for it's just more of an, efforting.
Speaker 1: Just effort. Thing he. Said there's an effort, execution, right
and sometimes it's a. Technique sometimes it is just basically
effort does did be what you put for the right?
Effort those uh on those. Rebels, look when you're long
rebounds happen when when teams are shooting. Threes it's really
hard to close out and box out in those, situations
especially versus elite length and. Athleticism SO i do think
there's an element here of like they it feels like
they just got to out athleted the.
Speaker 6: Other the other hard part here is like SO i
was telling you guys during the, break boy has now
played three of the top six teams in the eight
people Between, Yukon arizona And, houston we're unfortunately sitting in
a spot like, like let's say you spread all these losses.
Out obviously you come one is spread, out but let's
just let's just say that you take this game and
then you Add texa Teching, kansas and those are spread
out across the season as opposed to all bunched, together
and they're winning all the games in. Between you would,
say dang, man they're right there with all of these.
Teams but because they compound and because they were scheduled
in such a way where it's back to back to
back to back and unfortunately doesn't get any. Easier it's
a tough spot to be in because it compounds, mentally
it compounds for the fans and LIKE i, DON'T i,
DON'T i truly do at this point don't know how
to look at it Because i'm a big believer in,
patterns like if you do something, one, two three, times
they're Not they're no longer isolated. Incidents those are a,
choice like that's who you. Are AND i JUST i
sit here AND i, say is this WHO buyu? Is
where they just can't beat the big?
Speaker 1: Team or.
Speaker 6: Is it just because these games were all back to
back to back to back to back.
Speaker 1: AND i AND i truly don't know the.
Speaker 6: Answer like the team who Played yukon and almost won that,
game if that team Plays, Arizona Texas, Tech kansas And, houston.
Speaker 1: Do we win two of those? GAMES I i, TRULY
i truly don't.
Speaker 6: Know But i'll tell you, This if you Don't baylor
And colorado this, week then it's not all these games
just happened to be.
Speaker 1: Scheduled that this is who we, are this is who we.
Is Rob were you guys happy with the effort Against
houston compared to other games like Against Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: State, yeah we definitely came in wanted to make a,
statement wanting to show that we could play hard for two.
Halves SO i feel like we did a good job
of changing.
Speaker 1: That, YEAH i think. SO i THINK i think they
were playing, Hard LIKE i don't think the. EFFORT i,
MEAN i KNOW aj put up you know that commentary of, like,
hey effort is is the reason why our lack of,
effort why we couldn't rebound and we allowed second chance
points For. HOUSTON i think the effort was. THERE i
didn't see you know this, lackadaisical like, effortless you know,
this this just throwing in the. TOWEL i didn't see. That.
Rob what what do you think it's gonna take to
get over the? Hump you guys have been so.
Speaker 3: CLOSE i think it was like when it got under five.
MINUTES i think it's just finishing the game at, strong
just closing it. Out we kind of had a couple of,
turnovers a couple of, mishaps and they got second chance.
Points so THAT i heard us at the.
Speaker 1: End definitely hurts you at the, end got to close out.
Games it's spend an issue for both of.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: Guys Kevin young, said you guys were kind of searching
at this point of the. Season your thoughts on that, Commentary.
Speaker 8: Yeah ritchie actually told us last year that they went
on like a losing. Streak they had three games in
the earl they lost, Twice so it was just, like,
bro you just gotta find. It and they still ended
up going to The sweet sixteen and having a chance
to win it over there In. Jersey, SO i, mean
we're trying to find our. IDENTITY i, mean we kind
of know what it is. Obviously we just got to
close out, games. RIGHT I, mean it was kind of
a problem that's being down fifteen in the first, half
but we kind of showed that we could fight in
the first. HALF i think we're wrenning down like seven
due to that put, Back but it's just closing out
games for. US i, think, Now, yeah we don't want
to get down. Seventeen we don't want to get bound.
Nineteen we don't want to get down twenty one to twenty,
two twenty.
Speaker 1: Three what's going to change? There Rob coach said that
was the hardest he went at you guys after the
lost lead to get to this. Game do you feel
like you matched up what he was, challenged challenging you
guys to. Do, yeah, no it's.
Speaker 3: UH i MEAN i think we definitely. Did we definitely
show flashes of. IT i think it's just putting it
all together and then just like they, say closing the game,
out just finishing out strong and not letting him get
those second chance points because it ended up hurting.
Speaker 1: US a couple last things Here number, Eight, rob what
are your thoughts on going back To Baylor tuesday night
against your old?
Speaker 3: TEAM i think they just played, away stay. Tough SO i,
mean obviously it's on the, road it's a big, twelve
so it's gonna be a tough, game just trying to
get a.
Speaker 1: Win Where's rob originally? From? Where? Delaware he's The East?
Coast Huh. YEAH i didn't track obviously how he got To,
baylor but it sounds like he. Doesn't he really didn't
have any ties there To. Baylor he just went there
to play ball and that's why he kind of became
a little bit of a mercenaries, like oh, well there's
some some changes the entire his entire. ROSTER i, MEAN
i don't did they have one player returning to that.
ROSTERIZED i don't think they. DID i think they had
complete attrition of the roster. On so he probably went
with the uh it went the portal way because of.
That but you can tell there's not a whole lot
of like emotional connectivity to this game for. Him at,
least it seems like it's not Like i'm going, Back,
Michelle i'm showing up for this game in. Particular you,
know it doesn't seem like there's much. There does it
mean anything more to? You, Rob, no it's just trying
to win exactly like nah.
Speaker 4: Nah he's also not going to play into.
Speaker 1: That, YEAH i, know but LIKE i DON'T i truly
think HE'S i think he's. Answering, HONESTLY i was looking
at his. Body you don't have no, Roots like it's
one thing for like like it's like one, thing like
like Like Colin Chandler kentucky comingto LIKE i mean that
would make it really. Big well let's say Like richie
ended up At kentucky or something like, that you, know
and coming back and playing like it's gonna be, Big
like it's GONNA i, mean people are gonna be all
in on that because there was, ties there was roots
there was, connection there was, emotion there was there was,
tenure there was memories, made games. Won Like rob definitely played,
well but he was there for it. Was it was, short,
right and there were a lot of stars on that team.
Too there are a lot of good players on that team's,
coming you can. Tell, SO, aj was there anything at
the free throw line where you feel that's where things slipped?
Up what's? Up?
Speaker 8: YEAH i MEAN i looked at myself for that lout miss.
Five that's unacceptable on my. Behalf BUT i think you
missed twelve as a team and we lost by you,
know lessons to us on. Me if you got to
step up there and make free, throws it's a different.
Game it's a different ball.
Speaker 1: Game, yeah so you, wonder, hey what is? It you,
know what's going on with the, mechanics what's going on
with the? Shot, ANYWAY, aj how do you turn the?
Page how do you move forward after this losing? STREAK i,
mean just execute the game plan.
Speaker 8: Still i'm just trusting the coaches and the staff what
their scout is for the other, Team but just go
out there and execute. IT i think we bounced back
well From oklahoma stake a lot of teams and our
position that you know that's lost like three games in a,
row would have just folded to a Team Mike houston
and got smacked by like. Thirty BUT i think we
showed a lot of. Grit so we're just gonna trust
the coaching. Staff we're gonna execute what we need to
do In waco On.
Speaker 1: Tuesday gotta get a, Dub we gotta get a. Win fingers,
crossed fingers cross what do you got? Running, okay my bad.
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