Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the six hundred and
seventy fifth episode of the Geek for his podcast, I
am the infiltrator Tress. Now I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I'm the classic curric Colum Pacer.
Speaker 3: Oh my name is Dylan Muss.
Speaker 4: The Grid of Grids Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: I did thought that Taylor had us muted there for
a second the response I'm there, but yeah.
Speaker 3: You hear that long I was holding off there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, sure, yes, we are here to talk about Tron. Now.
If you're wondering, hey, we're the other reviews, well, those
are on Patron. We did review the original Tron back
in the eighties, we reviewed Tron Legacy, and here we
are now for like I said, the sixenty fifth episode
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Speaker 2: On Japanese time zone by then, so I'll probably be
rare to go.
Speaker 1: There you go. But here we are to talk about
tron Aris. If you don't know how we do things,
this is your first time listening to us. We do
a non spoils breakdown, especially for movies, because you know,
maybe you're seeing this when it goes to Disney, plus
maybe you're seeing another time, maybe you're not seeing at all.
Maybe this non spoils review will be the deciding factor.
So we will not drop a single massive spoiler in
said review. We'll take a break getting the spoilers and
we'll get down to everything that you don't want to hear. So, uh,
should I go to the freshest boy or the least
freshest boy? I don't know. Here, I don't know. I'll
like kurkling stew for a little bit. So, uh, mister Field,
what do you think about the.
Speaker 4: East freshest boy?
Speaker 3: That rotten the strongest call sign?
Speaker 1: You were looking pretty not fresh last night. It was
pretty tired on the driver. I was on the trivele yah,
my kids.
Speaker 4: More tired in the showing. I was awake when we
were driving home.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: This uh, this, this movie. I was I was really
excited to go into this, I really really was. And
I I know we're all gonna be praising it.
Speaker 2: But my number one.
Speaker 4: Highlight an assumption. I didn't finish my sentence. There was
no period at the end of that sentence.
Speaker 1: Wait.
Speaker 4: Wait, I think we're all going to praise the music
in this movie. That's what we're gonna be praising. Now
there's a period at the end of that.
Speaker 3: That's not how that sentence was going though.
Speaker 4: I was going there, but I had to be interrupted
and I had to change the grammar.
Speaker 2: Here we are say that again.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the movie, the movie itself, I think the
story was it was It wasn't anything that exceeded what
we've gotten in the past as far as Tron goes.
I feel like it's just kind of like a no no,
and it's just it's a very basic, like not a
safe I guess would be the word that I would
use it. Could they have done a lot more and
it could have just you know, blown out of the water,
you know, if they wrote a more of a risky story. Sure,
But I think the story was very safe. And that
includes things that were pulled from the first movie and
things are pulled from the second movie that.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed.
Speaker 4: When I went into this movie, I was thinking, Okay,
we're really gonna kind of just tackle this as more
of an anthology film, and it's not really gonna have
much to do with the previous two movies. We're just
kind of pulling in familiar elements you're gonna recognize, like
big names of companies, whatever, and then you're just gonna see, Okay,
things are moving forward, like they're they're trying to just
driving this narrative for I don't want to say anything
without spoiling it, but of course, uh yeah, I just
I was kind of surprised to kind of deep dive
into certain things that were really emphasized in the past,
and like it's.
Speaker 1: Such an interesting take. I feel like what you described
is exactly what we caught, like we were only thought
like I feel like the biggest.
Speaker 4: I did not feel like this is not like an anthology.
I felt like it was really just coming like trying
to do full circle and connect to the other two
films with things.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel like the biggest complaint I've heard
from people is that like it did not connect enough
to the other stuff, and lots of questions are still
unanswered my complaints, but a couple like not just bobbyl
people I talked to seeing the movie. So that's why
what your first sentence and then that statement, I'm so
surprised that's what you took for me.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's it's tied to the first movie
more than I needed, like more than enough, like just
the right amount. I don't need it to expand on
that anymore. And maybe this is because of where I
see that first movie and place it in my likeness
the second one. Yes, I can see that there are
some things that definitely need to be answered, But yeah,
I know we'll break it down more. I'll probably start
to see a little bit more of that. But I
will say they did one thing that I was not
expecting that I really really liked, in terms of the
Grid Asterix.
Speaker 1: U but spoiler's form at all when you say grid,
But then when you say Asterix's with.
Speaker 3: The gridler that's going on through your riddles.
Speaker 1: I think you're lucky they did apparently in the last
trailer show some of what you're talking about a lot
of people are pissed about that. I didn't learn about
that until yesterday. But m.
Speaker 4: But as far as Jared Lough goes, I actually really
didn't mind him.
Speaker 2: What is that gonna be your Jesus Christ and pass
the Christ?
Speaker 1: It would be good because Jesus Christ. Now I know
I leave in the back. This is great and what
a journey on.
Speaker 3: As far as most fresh we got tonight, Yeah, folks,
so stinky boy, hell yeah, continue to Jared let him he.
Speaker 4: Was He was actually not too bad. I mean we
talked a bit about him on the on the drive
home and and what on some cons and no one
heard that I was there.
Speaker 5: You guys were tired.
Speaker 4: I just blanked him. I was in the theater that
I was as sudden at home.
Speaker 1: And that's like I want to divorce and cars in
the front lawn and still.
Speaker 4: But no, I think. I think with Jared Leto in there,
it yeah, you know kind of what you're getting into
with an actor like that, I feel like because of
the previous films, But honestly, I was not. I was
not really rattled or anything. I feel like he he's
pretty decent in in this movie. I would have liked
it if he had like the full gear set up
a little bit more like his helmet was always off.
That's not a spoiler, but you know they're trying to
showcase the little celebrity's face and everything like that. But
I'm I'm a sucker for just that that full mask.
I don't even like the half faced shield thing. I
want like the the full like head gear. And then
when like when Tron Legacy, when Tron would talk and
it would just be like this, like like like it
was it was so fucking cool.
Speaker 3: I mean, no one Jared face so I will agree.
Speaker 1: With that, and you can't use Tronto's example. He's like
the eighth most porn character in Tron Legacy, so like
there's a reason he can't like his faces and show
he looks cool.
Speaker 2: He's the bulb.
Speaker 4: That's what I wanted.
Speaker 1: The last The last lead didn't have his helmet on
all the time like flint Son and I I think
I've already blanked. But he's the lead, and I think
I've already blanked a lot of the original Trunt in
my mind. But I think I saw a lot of
Jeff Bridges' face. So I feel like we see a
lot of face, yeah, which is scary now, but a.
Speaker 2: Lot of face. Yeah?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: What else can I just nitpick here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Just back to the score full circle here, man. I've
been listening to the music and the soundtrack multiple times
today and it's, uh, it's pretty good. It's pretty good.
Just the just when I'm walking and I play some
of those tracks, I just feel fucking invincible, Like, oh, have.
Speaker 1: You played the infiltrator? Yeah, walking anywhere, you're ready to
fuck someone up.
Speaker 4: I don't even have the headphones and I just played
that out loud.
Speaker 1: I did too, today. I was just walking with the
phone in my pocket as bathing isy to that music.
I'm like a fucking bathukee dog and like you just
you get like you get any there's nothing sexual there. Yeah,
but I just think I put that on. Anybody walks
up to me, now, you're losing that fight. If I
got infiltrator bumping, there's not a chance I needed this
soundtrack by back in the middle school fight club era, man,
I would have been forty and oh you know.
Speaker 6: What are you instead? Did you finish on a loss?
Or did you start? Or sorry, did you finish on
a win?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: I have no idea because we did it so often.
It was just like tapouts? Are it was tapouts or quits?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there there's multiple seat's going on here. Tell you done, Jesus,
I think I'm done, Dylan, get us on track.
Speaker 3: I'll try to follow it up. That was if that
was the most freshness, and I'm middle freshness. I don't
know how to follow it up. Yeah, I guess you know,
maybe a lot of people listen to us on the
free feeds not on Patreon, haven't heard our thoughts on
the other two. But I think I went into this
with like I don't even know if I've seen a
trailer in full, and I knew, you know, the concept
here of like, oh, Tron, we're going the opposite, now
we're going into the real world is kind of the
premise I had, which I think a lot of people
understandably maybe are not into that because that's like, well,
we do that in every movie Tron. We want to
go into the world of Tron. That's the interesting part.
And this might be like a full un bias thing
for me, but in my theater experience, since this whole
movie is filmed in Vancouver and I saw it in
Vancouver of course where I lived, you know, when they're
driving by Roger's Arena, people are popping off. When they
drive over the Lions Gate Bridge, people are popping off,
and it's like all this noticeable stuff that I think
made like the real world locations even more engaging. So
I actually really enjoyed that part of it. And I
think from the just like conceptually, I think they did
a lot of really cool stuff and almost tackle it
from like a bunch of different angles. So I really
enjoyed that angle of the movie. Outside of just like
that that personal bias for it. One thing I gotta
grew with Taylor on as he said that we all
would say, is is the soundtrack. This might be the
best movie soundtrack I've heard in the last like five
years or something. I think it's Geese Baby.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so good. It's funny because, like music
is a thing I feel like on these reviews, it's
hard to talk about it much in detail, but this
is one where I have like several notes that I
just want to highlight this music. Here's why it's so good.
So we'll do that in the spoiler section. Yeah, unbelievable music,
and like it's pretty much present from start to finish,
and so I feel like to me that really carried
me through and kept the energy high or like made
me feel emotional when I needed to, and so overall,
I really enjoyed this movie way more than I was
expecting to from someone who's kind of mid on the
tron stuff and not really too deep into the lore
of it all. But yeah, I have a really really
great time with this. Music is of course great, as
I just mentioned, but also the visuals as you'd expect.
I mean, going back to the eighties Tron. It's like
the Kaid's dated, but it's it's there's visuals that are
occurring and then you know, Tron legacy a lot of
visuals and there look really great. And this too, obviously
in seeing it in like IMAX and stuff, was was
pretty fun. So that was like just getting really all
into it there in terms of the character stuff. Jared Letto, I,
you know, Taylor, I'm with you. I'm a Jared Leto,
but he did a solid job here. But for me,
it's grettily readily fucking it's so good. She's just such
an unbelievably great actress that even if she isn't really
given a ton of in depth dialogue, when you really
break it down, I think like the scenes that she's in,
she just carries it and it's more the way she
bounces off Jared Leto. I think that balance actually works
really well between those two characters. So I really like
their dynamic in here. The villain in this is like
a zero and a half out of ten, like it
is garbage, garbage, garbage, But the fact that it's you know,
Evan Peters is like, okay, well oh that vilm. He's
still fun. So I'll come down to just like watch
him do stupid stuff. So, you know, I think a
lot of it, like the plot, the writing not amazing,
but I do think it's it's a lot better than
where Legacy was at. And then I don't know, the
eighties one is just like a fucking fever droom. It's
hard to compare, like to the writing of that movie,
but I think there's actually some like solid emotional stuff
in here, some like good character beats. You know, you
have your comic relief character who I think is like
he used pretty well. It's not like a very funny movie,
but like there's just a little moments of levity. So overall,
I he this is super solid. And yeah, that soundtrack
is unbelievable, And yeah, I'm surprised at how much I
enjoyed this one. It was a real surprise for me,
especially you know, seeing some chattering the discord and stuff
and hearing like some online reviews and whatnot, and seems like, okay,
people are maybe super hot on this, uh, And then yeah,
I came out to quite happy, and I feel like normally
for me, I need like a good plot in movies
like this to be coming into a review like this positive.
But I feel like in this case, I didn't feel
that need because there was enough things that were carrying
up the movie and you know, good popcorn flick type thing,
even though I wasn't needing popcorn while I was watching it.
But anyway, I'll leave it there. I'll pass over to
whoever's taking this light baton next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll leave the Freshnest Boy last year. Then I'll
jump off. And that's where to Dylan's point, I feel
like that somewhere I did understand, maybe years ago, like
probably early on when we started the podcast, but I
definitely think there was a point in my life where
if someone really enjoys Avatar and I don't really understand,
then like, oh, I just like as the visuals and
I go, okay, I guess I can't see and I
don't really have that ye. I feel like teron Aris
is going to be my answer of like, I'm considering
going to see this again in the theater. I usually
never do that for a movie I don't love, because
it is the music is constantly going and it's weird
because like I talked to April and she said, like
in her Airbox reviews she said just loud or very loud.
And I've heard other people critique like it's just a
two hour Nine Nails music video, and I would have
those same things, but they're on like the positive side
where I kind of like that there's just always music
like grete Lee will just be like I don't know,
looking through envelopes and nine inch Nails and Aticis Ross
and Trent Rezor are just going off on just like
this godly like note where there's some synth coming to
me like oh my goodness, like yeah, this is I
was happy. Was so good because I've been talking up
for months because I like nine Nails one of my
favorites ever since I heard funny Enough in seven when
they did the like there's the creepy version of Closer
and then if they're like what is this music? Who's
this band? And hey, they've already won a Gold Keys
before the one for Soul like they did Challengers, they
did Social Network, they did Girl Drink Tatoo, They've done tons,
but this might be the the the Magnum opens for
their movie stuff. I can't like say for their their
their just actual career, because they have some just amazing
stuff and I just love that Dat Delivered. And I'd
heard it before because i'd listened to the album, but
with the movie It's My Sports. But the first time
you hear ninth Nail Song is someone typing on a
typewriter or a keyboard and the hit enter. Yeah, it's
it's a sixties troll on early eighteen hundreds. But when
they hit the enter bar and you and it goes
right into the ninth Nail song, like, oh my god,
like I can feel I'm not sure Kirkling if you
got to see it where you didn't did you have
to see on Imax? They have some good speakers. Yeah,
I just feel like even with the al right speakers
we saw on the West Side that wasn't the extreme screen,
I could feel my spin like vibrating off a nine
inch nail. So I can say, like, there's probably a
whole point, maybe two points that's just purely the musics
and the visuals. This is something that I want to watch,
is it? Just like and maybe some people might think
this is a bad thing, so I understand it feels
like a great amusement park Rye in that sense where
you're just locked in and here we go. So and visuals.
I think it's up there with some of the stuff
we've talked about this last decade, like Mad Max and
Dune and even some of the early like even Force
Awakens is like a really great looking movie right where
there's so much stuff now that is just rush and
it's not the way it used to be or the
time that it got to cook. And it just was
really refreshing that man. And I'll show it in an image
of later when we're talking about there's just one scene
where jedlar lettos on a bike and he's in the water.
He's just going through stuff. I'm like, I feel so
bad for the animators and everything because it's just like
the render time and because it's it's not just like
a oh it's a wall and it's orange and kind
of flickers. This entire landscape that he's going by for
two minutes, all his details and it's all different. I'm
just like, ha, It's it's a Smorgasborgus stuff going on.
I'm on the other side Ofesoly, not a Jared little fan.
I think for me the he was miscast for one
particular thing. I think the aries Grid stuff. He's fine
at some point they tried to do the Terminator robotic humor,
and I don't think any of that worked for me.
It just it fell off like and I also don't
think him and Greta Lee had a good back and forth.
I think Greta Lee's also good in this movie, but
I don't know if she's ever gonna be bad and anything.
I've only seen her like three things now, but she
continues to deliver and I can't wait to see the
rest of her career. But I just didn't buy the
chemistry and I didn't like that humor. Yeah, I'm I'm
with Dylan where there's a reason they got Evan Peters
because I just feel like they've looked at this role
and there's not much here. But if we get someone
funly givin Peters, that'll that'll rise it up. And even
then it's just there's a couple of small things you
could have rewrote or changed. I would have made the
character even just a little bit better, you know. But
luckily Peters is there. He's chewing up scenery, so that's great.
Gillian Anderson's in there. She's always great, even if they
give her nothing to do. She just has like aura
going on and that's this movie. This movie is a
vibes movie. It's a there is like aura farming sometimes
for half an hour straight. It's just like, look at
this cool stuff. If we have in Tron and man,
I said in all the retros, I'll say it again,
they won't do it, but I need some Triple A
studio to make a fucking great Tron game. I want
to be on that bike. I want to have Trent
Reznor in my ear well. I want to be the infiltrator.
So no, this Yeah, I had a really good time this,
even though story, yeah, it's pretty weak. They have like
three to four action scenes and the mcguffin is the
exact same thing. There's no At times does feel as
a first draft or the treatment, and it's like that's good,
let's go with that. It definitely felt Okay, we're gonna
do the visuals, we're gonna do the audio, and then
after that we'll figure everything out. And I joined to
her stitch. She's playing just kind of like a basic role,
but I think she brings a lot too because I'm
a fan of her and I think she brings an
intensity that same thing like the Evin Peters there's not
much there, but yeah, and I can kind of see
because the same thing as well we're talking about with
Taylor's nonspoys. I think there's tons of stuff they don't
really answer, but I think we kind of memed about that.
There's even something that we meaned about. We were going, oh,
how will they answer this question, and we're like, oh,
they'll probably just say this, this and this, and then me,
don't that, And they literally did that in this movie.
They the stuff that you want to know, they'll drop
you two sentences and then move on. So yeah, I
don't think the script is amazing. I don't think the
story is amazing. It is kind of lacking some full closure,
even though I think they're trying to hope that they
can do more, which I think is a risky play nowadays.
So yeah, I surprisedly enjoy this, but I also see
people's critiques. It's kind of like the way Avatar is now,
where I get why people love Avatar, and I get
why people really dislike Avatar, and you know, I family
Clay said that he said he heard someone say this
is the worst movie Disney has ever produced. That person
is not seen enough Disney movies. This director has directed
a worse Disney movie. He did the Last Prize the
Caribbean movie, so there's already a worse Disney movean this.
This is nowhere near the ethos. I think that's a
lot of people upset because they hold Tron special and
I don't, you know, like dal mention the retro like I,
I appreciate, appreciate the original Tron for what it did,
and luckily with Tron Legacy and this, I think they
all have distinctive styles and that's really cool that it's
multiple decades separating them and they're doing something with the genre.
Legacy would still be my favorite. I think the crux
of Jeff Bridges and the Sun storyline, I enjoy that
a lot more than anything the other two. But yeah,
this is one that I want to see in theaters,
but I don't know how much i'll watch at home.
I got the album on Spotify, so I just don't
know what it's gonna be like when I'm watching on
a fifty five to sixty inch we're in the theaters, man,
and I want to see it again because I don't
know if this is gonna movie that's gonna be re
released in twenty years, so yeah, I'll report back. But yeah,
I had a good time as a visual and audio
just melting of the mind and nine s nails. They're untouchable,
so crooking pats are thrown at you. You're very fresh,
but you had some that you cool down, gather your thoughts.
Where are you on tront Areas?
Speaker 2: Haven't fully cooled down? It's still pretty Louke.
Speaker 1: You want us to go again?
Speaker 3: Taylor Field Full Circle?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had a really fun time with
this movie.
Speaker 6: I think I have two major complaints that I'll I'll
leave one for spoilers because it is a spoiler, and
I'll leave two for now by saying that I hated
Evan Peters character. And I think Alien Earth really did
a number of me with the boy Cavalier character, who
is very similar in certain ways to Evan Peters character.
Speaker 2: And like character in Alien Earth.
Speaker 1: And there's a rich billionaire character all all like that character.
Speaker 2: So yeah, who's running a company?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's just like, I don't know, I'm just
having PTSD flashbacks. So like I do like Evan Peters,
but like I just could not get past that. And
I don't think the script did anything to like win
me over on him, like.
Speaker 2: He's just a very yeah.
Speaker 6: So so that like had a bad date in my
mouth every time he was on screen, like it's the
whole movie isn't.
Speaker 2: Just him, which is nice, but yeah, that that was
a big complaint for me. And then uh, yeah, I'll
talk about the other one.
Speaker 6: We get there, and I think, like I I have
seen the first trailer that was really like the selling
point for me on this movie. I had zero interest
until I saw that first trailer in theaters. I'm like,
holy shit, like the scale of this because of course
that first trailer showed the the infiltrator like in the city,
and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, fuck, this looks crazy that trailer.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, the trailer is amazing and I was almost
said a spoiler I saw.
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk too much here, but I
feel like from getting that trailer, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's kind of surprised with with some things that happened
in here, which is a positive because I I just
wasn't expecting us to go a certain route with a
certain character. I will continue those thoughts when we get there.
But yeah, everything else though, positives like like yeah, the
plot isn't like it's not it's not a golden script
by any means, but like I.
Speaker 2: Don't need that. I I wanted.
Speaker 6: I wanted a fun action movie with like killer visuals
and like an amazing soundtrack, which is what I got here.
And I was saying, I went with my dad, who
he actually made the comment that he wants to get
a Tron video game.
Speaker 2: So there you go, Travis.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and oh god, what was the other thing
I was gonna say?
Speaker 2: I can't remember now, but.
Speaker 6: Jared Leto, he like fooled me into being like, man, like,
I'm actually like rooting for his character here because like
Morebius and I think the last like whatever I've seen
him in as of late, he's just.
Speaker 2: Like a villain in my mind. And what was it?
Speaker 3: The Joker?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 2: The Joker? Of course, there you go.
Speaker 3: The great could You Forget Network is named after an
iconic line.
Speaker 1: Of one of the most famous episodes's first ever episode.
Speaker 6: You know, but like I don't know, there's just moments
where I'm like, I'm like finding myself rooting for his character,
which was just like like a trippy sequence because I
just feel like I haven't rooted for that character, that
actor character in a very long time, and those movies
that had me had me there, and uh, I don't know.
Definitely Greta Lee I would hold higher than him. I
really liked her. She's like a certain outfit for like
majority of this movie, and it just felt like a
video game kind of jacket. Yeah, it's like a like
a rock and it looks so badass. And the color
tones too, it just it looked really cool. So I
really liked her character. I think it's like a good
enough continuation of the story, like it's I don't know,
I'm not the biggest fan of those other movies, so
like I think just scratchy the surface is fine by me.
Speaker 2: And yeah no, but overall, like it's it's definitely a
fun time.
Speaker 6: I would definitely recommend people go see this in theaters because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with you, Travis.
Speaker 6: I think on a on a just at home view,
like there's certain movies you can just wait till it's
on BOD, but this is one.
Speaker 2: I would definitely recommend for a theater experience.
Speaker 6: It's not till the level of something like Dune, but
like that's another movie example of like you gotta see
it in theaters. It's just it's such a different experience.
Very envious of you, Dylan getting the IMAX experience and
something also observation because of course Travison Taylor didn't see
this on the West Side because the Extreme theater.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we did see it on the
West Side.
Speaker 2: Oh oh there you go.
Speaker 6: Oh great, because the run times the Extreme theater only
three D viewings, which is fucking crazy. Why are there
even three D movies? Tyler and I were talking about this.
I think James Cameron is at fault for this. I
think the reason why we still have three D is
literally just because of him started this movie.
Speaker 2: We've got a Predator bad Lands trailer. Trailer looked awesome.
Speaker 6: At the end it said experience in three D, and
I just did a lot of funk off in the theater, like, seriously,
just let three D die.
Speaker 2: Save it for Avatar, save it for James Cameron. I
hate that so much.
Speaker 1: Because that's the first time Avatar goes back and then
people are like, all right, I three D.
Speaker 3: You know, well, remember James Cameron has an understanding of
how the human mind perceived it.
Speaker 2: Only let him, Only let him do it?
Speaker 4: Then, did you get a trailer for that Chris Pratt
Mercy movie because they pitched that as as well.
Speaker 1: Which is so funny because half the trailers that Chris
Pratt in the chair, it's like things zooming past his face.
And when they say three D two, it's like, why
would you see that in three D? I'm like, well,
the things are zoom passes face for all trailer, Like,
I'm not seeing that in three I'm not seeing that
on theaters. But I'm like, it clearly showed YB three
D things are whipping at you and everything. But yeah,
that was a wild trailer.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, not seeing that one. I'm gonna pass on
that one. But I think I'm gonna close all my
thoughts there. I can't wait to listen that. I haven't
listened to the soundtrack like on its own yet, so
I'm excited to jump in there. It was I don't
I don't know if I'm like a nine inch Nails listener.
I'm sure there's no more classic song that I've that I've.
Speaker 2: Heard in there's room in the fandom.
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Brad Pitman Moore the opening credits when it's all the
stuff John Doe's doing, that's a nine Inch Nails song.
If you were the second you bet when you get
the credits, you make oh this fucking song, like, yeah,
I'm sure you've heard stuff. Technically they created the song
Hurt that Johnny Cash eventually made, you know, the better
version of but it is originally Inchinail song very different.
But yeah, you should just go on Spotify ahead of
this is us and plus I put tons of scores,
like I said, Soul Challengers, Social Network, you know, they're
tons of stuff, so you should you should take a gander,
you know, so.
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all right, Where do we want to start with the
tron ares here?
Speaker 4: I got killer, I got here. I want to start
with Cameron Monaghan. That was the worst place.
Speaker 1: That was the worst place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the one.
Speaker 2: Big name appearance, he gets marked. He gets marked on
the infiltration scene.
Speaker 1: So that that is the guy that plays cal Castes
in the game. This is his training for Yeah, this
is his training for tron Ares. He's the guy that
gets killed off when he's like, we can't leave anyone behind,
and was like, you're all expended on. He's missing the leg.
Speaker 3: So I thought he looked distantly familiar. That makes sense.
I've seen him in uncanny way in a video game
four years ago.
Speaker 1: His name was in the opening credit as well. His
name's there, so clearly he must have had scenes that
they cut because that's a And that's again that's where
the script weak as nails, because they're trying to set
this up as this is a moment where Hay sure
just regular script breading nails, like five, yeah, we're not
the nine yet. We'll may at the end of the review.
But they're trying to set this up that Okay, everything's
going wrong and one of his guys are down and
we gotta go back and Ev Peter's like, nope, you're
gonna leave him behind, and that really is starting to
show him, Okay, show Aris that okay are people they
mean nothing to. They don't call this guy Master Control
because he's Master Control, but the creator right, and it's
starting to lay those scenes. But the problem is we
never saw a scene with him at all before. It
was literally just oh, man, Cameron's here and then he's gone.
And I thought, because he is at least a little
more known actor, like he had a huge round Gotham too,
he played the Joker for like five years, I thought, Oh,
he's gonna to off here something like someone's gonna he's
gonna come back, right, because characters come back all the time. Nah,
he's just dead. So I'm assuming he had seen that
were probably cut and I bet there's something with that
movie because this is two hours and we know Disney
the past couple of years with these blockbusters, they've been
trying to make them it like a tight two hours
or under. So that is disappointing because that that moment
I still think worked a bit for easily one of
them behind, but could have worked more if we had
a couple scenes of you know them together training I
don't know, something, something to get some rappaport, but yeah,
very odd to get like someone that's a like a
I don't know, not just an extra and he just
killed off like that.
Speaker 4: It felt like thor Ragnarok when they're doing the play
and all of a sudden you realize that this actor
is Matt Damon and he's there just for a brief bit.
But not even that that bad, because yeah, that's it,
that's just like.
Speaker 3: What Matt Damon signed up for.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, there's on purpose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you look at this, yeah, clearly I feel
like he signed up for more. And I'm just kidding
to just like, Okay, he was gonna be the At
first I thought maybe he would have been like a
villain or something like that, and then they squashed that
idea and just went with with Athena, And then I thought, no, no, no, no,
looking at the situations, like clearly more so that he
would probably just be a friend, like, oh, you saved me, Aries,
I'm gonna just follow you on this journey. We're going
to the real world and you know, both of us together.
But I was joking with Travis or like Jared Lois
were like, no, Cameron can't.
Speaker 2: Be on this movie anymore.
Speaker 4: Like just had to run in with him or something
like that.
Speaker 1: So he run in with him. You call me Aries
on set, sir. I'm not sure. Apparently he tried to
do that to Jeff Bridges and Bridges like, I'm not
doing that, man. I would have loved to see the
set videos of Bridges telling like I'm not doing your metha,
acting like we're just doing the scenes, all right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I wanted to ask you guys about that
element of Aries' character where at one point, like you
see it on screen, where he's like empathy initiated or
wherever it says like, is that something that do you
guys think that Dylinger I forget his first name, but
Evan Peter's care Like did he like manually program in
like empathy specifically, or is it more that he just
put so much depth into the code and all the
details into this got into this I don't know character.
I guess you could call him such that he was
able to like develop that on his own by like
watching videos of human beings and like, oh, like that
is a thing that human beings do, and then I'm
gonna add that to my database. Like I couldn't tell
kind of where that line was. I don't know if
it was more clear or less clear to you guys.
Speaker 6: I took it like from from the start of the movie,
Like it's it's clear that he is like supposed to
be learning from his experiences, like right, like like when
he's doing his combat, he gets bopped and then he
counters it, and then he just like just evolves that way.
So I just took it like he is like a
self learning thing. And I think there's even a moment
when he's like writing the code it says like, ah, it's.
Speaker 2: Been like it wasn't.
Speaker 6: It didn't say self learning patch, but it was something
to that level. So then like from that point on,
it was just like, Okay, this is gonna be AI
that just like ever evolves, always learning, which is something
that kind of happens nowadays with some of the AI developments.
So that's how I took it, like he's just reacting
to his environment. I'm glad you went there next, because
that was my number two hold up. I think that
just the jump from evil aries to like full on
good guy aries, like like full on good guy, like
this guy is morally like the gold standard of good
Now by the end of this movie, I believe that,
like I don't think he could ever sin a day
his life. Now that's just my like it's not shown
like in in Iron but like just how the movie ends,
that's the vibe I get, and to me, I just
needed more substance to get there.
Speaker 1: But like no, not just that I'm fearless so I'm
powerless sort of thing, like I am powerful.
Speaker 6: It was it was too much of a jump for me,
and like I just couldn't really get attached to him
being like the hero character. That's where I was like
alluding to early on, where I'm like, they're like fooling
me into like almost trick to like root for this
guy now even though it's like at the end of
the day, they haven't really given me like a big
reason to to feel that way, because it just seems
like it is just such a jump because yeah, he
reads chapter twenty of Frankenstein and now he's just a
good guy. Like I think I wanted a little bit
more cracks to the character, like like have him more
just complicated than that, like like like maybe he's just
just questioning everything, but it's no, it's just it's just
a very basic switch that he flips and he's just
full on good guy. Now he's he's he's white instead
of red, and like he's just a good guy.
Speaker 2: Now, so I think.
Speaker 4: It's just him being a program though it doesn't it
not like just kind of making that quick turnover.
Speaker 6: I think just because he's supposed to be like a
very like the highest tier of AI, it just seems
so basic where it's just there's right and wrong and
he just he just switched where I just feel like
it should be so much more complicated to that. It's
I'm almost thinking like Alicia of Thecandor's character from Ex
Makana on how like she is, like you see her
just question like rethinking life as a whole and like
figuring out who was a good guy who's not? And
like what she just just comparing that type of AI
character to what we got here just seems super.
Speaker 2: Super basic in comparison, and.
Speaker 6: The fact that that's like the main pillar of this
movie is this character of Aries and if he if
he isn't just straight good guy, like it's a lot
more complicated for InCom for Eves's character, like like just
the whole plot is just a lot more messy. So
I yeah, that was my other number two complaint that
I had. But like what I was gonna say is
I don't think I even.
Speaker 2: Want that version of the movie more like, like, do
I want to more than Drawn?
Speaker 1: Right, because like, yeah, there are it's pretty black and white.
Who's the bad guys? Like you're literally in the last one,
you have good Jeff Bridges, evil Jeff Bridges, like the
bad guys in the first Drawn just they are evil
guys trying to kill the other programs. So yeah, no,
I can get what you say, because you have pretty
much all they had was him secret Lee who's looking beautiful,
and then he's like, she's empathetic and then boom, he's
off the races of like and maybe I said all
take was a good beauty. Yeah, all took was rain,
which I get rain and a beautiful nice girl on
that turnaround, so math, that's all took.
Speaker 3: But I mean I also had that sequence where he
like experienced her entire life digitally, right, A little weird.
Speaker 2: That's a good observation, A little weird.
Speaker 1: I know he has to, but he's definitely saw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess absolutely, what do you think she's posed online?
I don't know. I mean, I totally see where you're
coming from. I think for me, it actually was kind
of believable somehow, And I think part of it is
just like the accelerated nature of how quickly computers can
like out plow through information and the fact that like
in this moment that for us is like twenty seconds.
For him, it's like he has literally perceived like any
thing that she has ever done, like through a computer screen,
which is like a lot of information. And it's like,
I guess he doesn't have a lot of context of
other human beings, so maybe it is a bit of
a stretch that he would see that. Okay, maybe I
shouldn't kill this person, But I think the fact that
it was specifically her, like if it was if he
had gained that knowledge on someone and like, oh, I
now know what empathy is because I saw this person
and they had this sister and I don't even know
he knows what a sister is, but like, okay, he's
learned quickly what a sister is, sees that, Okay, he
lost his sister, saw like this all this emotion. The
fact that it was specifically her is the one that
was going to get get killed. Really when they're like,
I guess that was kind of like the only way
that they were going to get the information they needed.
But I think since it was specifically her, It became
like a little bit more believable. But yeah, like that
whole extent thing, we kind of just have to buy
into it a bit because we only saw twenty seconds,
whereas he saw everything.
Speaker 4: I think the two you take into account his personal
motivations and his goals where this perma code whatever it is,
he sees that, and yes he knows okay, like Dillinger
can get that. But do they ever really explain why
he wants to keep it out of Dillinger's hands, because
this is when he's forming his right from wrong kind
of moral code and perspective. Like I just feel like
he himself because he wants to exist in this world,
he's fascinated by it, but still that I don't know
if that's enough to really justify him burning.
Speaker 3: I took it more as like it wasn't necessarily that
he didn't want to give it to Dillinger. At first,
it was that like, okay, we'd have to kill this
person in order to give the code to him, and
he wasn't okay with that step, And then over time
he felt more of a bond with her, saw more
of how Dillinger is kind of fucked up. And you
know when he sends like his best friend after him
too to kill him and stuff, obviously that's like, okay,
this guy's this guy's kind of crazy but stepping stones.
Speaker 1: And Dillinger's never gonna do what she's gonna do, right.
He multiple times talks about how expendable you are, Like
he puts no emphasis on Aris ever being anything truly
important other than just a science projects. I think that's
even if take out the emotional part. It's just if
he's trying to get out of there. If Dillinger gets
that code, he may never see anything again, and he
could be deleted for doing X, Y and Z. A
little different because even before the big turn happens and
Athena sells him out, you can't see him Piers kind
of getting okay, there's something going on with Air that
isn't quite right now, maybe you could argue, maybe you
could right then try and do some stuff. Because after
he's like, oh I I think he says he says
somebody saw that he felt empathy or showed empathy, and
he's like, I'm gonna rip that out of your program
and whatnot. So he already knew something was up, so
I think just because it was contentious between the two, Yeah, okay,
I can't trust this guy. Where even then again, if
you take the emotional stuff out, it's like, hey, gret
A Lee, you help me, and if I don't help you,
you're gonna die or you're gonna lose your code. So
it is like, uh, if you look at the probability
of who's gonna do like a computer sense eaves the
way to go right.
Speaker 3: So, and I also feel like it was pretty clearly
shown how shoddy of a worksman Dyllinger was right because
obviously we got out of that showcase when he's showing
it off to these other like investors and stuff, and
then afterwards they're like, well you didn't tell them about
like the twenty nine minute limit thing. He's like, yeah,
well I didn't, you know, trying to make some sales here.
But that makes me wonder, like what other things he
was shortcutting in order to make like essentially this prototype
that he was showing off, right, and so like obviously
he even one of the things he talked about is like, Okay,
we have a don't worry guys, we have a sales
safe built in if things go awry. But it's like,
did he actually because clearly it doesn't seem like he
actually did, because that's another thing he lied about.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that's it, like we didn't explicitly get that information,
but I guess the fact that he wasn't able to
shut him down shows that that was another thing he
lied about in that presentation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely, that's a good observation. He and just
similar to fucking boy Caviar famliaires. So another reason why
I just hated that character.
Speaker 3: The character's name is boy Caviar or is that a
nickname you guys?
Speaker 2: Caviar wha cat? It is boy wonder boy.
Speaker 3: That's better than boy Caviar because that just sounds he's
many names of.
Speaker 1: Man of many names, boy genius, you know. But yeah,
but at least that was I don't at least he
had some actual he is doing the programmer with Boy Caviar.
We talked about like, okay, what is real once or not?
But he he he is a This guy is a
scientist or genius. He just hasn't cracked the code R
Because at the same point when the movie starts, great,
he's in the same position to him, right that she
can only do it for twenty mine and I meant
she does find it, and at the same time, she
finds it based off of someone else's work, right, So
it's not like she cracked the code when oh, I
figure out she found some old code off of Flint,
So I would assume if he also had the same
access to that, he probably could get there, right. I
think with that character just was kind of all over.
It was fun during that presentation. I know you guys
haven't seen in a while, but there was a Hannibal connection.
Catherine Isabelle was it. Yeah, she was one of the
buyers and Jillian Anderson is all seeing Hannibal, So I
was like, oh, man, someone's a fan.
Speaker 3: Of Handle, so familiar, but I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she ends up being like she seems with a
lot of people in Hannibal. She ends up being an
endgame for some people. Go watch hashtags save Animal. But
I was told me she was in more but she wasn't.
But yeah, with Peters, it's I don't know what they
are doing with that character all over, man, because I
get what they're doing for the first act and a
half where he's just he's the bad guy and he's
gonna shoot Serieny and I'm kind of okay with that.
Once we get to the second act and he's kind
of questioning himself and he's listening to his mom and
then his mom gets stabbed and he's, oh, you stare
right here and he's kind of regretting some choices and
they're doing the whole like MOPI villain act and go, Okay,
I don't think in this two hour movie we have
time to have this redemption of Van Peters. And guess what,
we don't get it because he decides to go into
you know, the grid, and now you know that's the
the mid credit is he's getting all evil. So again,
at that point, I would rather him had just killed
his mom and been like you're not stopping, like, just
go go full for it. Just make him. Hey, he's
just gonna be a bad guy. He's gonna pa you
a piece of shit. So then when he gets to
the grid, it's like, oh man, this guy has access
to the grid. Where now it's like if they do
a Tron four, will he eventually be bad but could
redeem himself or something like they just made it like
they to me, I thought clear to like chose a
clear line. Once they decide, hey, if we take this
information from grete Lee Eve, she's gonna die. And once
he said no matter what, do that command as Okay,
this character's there's not a redemption path for this character, right,
But I don't think they try to redeem him, but
they try to make us feel something for him, and
I think he was past that point. And I also
don't think they wrote the character at any point to
really be it'd be different too if he was at
the movie started and he was like Eve, where he's
also trying to find past twenty nine because he doesn't
want to change the world for good stuff, right, and
just his quest has showed him so mad that he's
he's crazy and he can't get past and he's just egotistical.
But it's not. He just wants to get there first
so he can sell and make a bunch of money.
So it could have been, it could have been something
that's I mean, with just a few minor I think
sentences and the choices and change like one scene here
or there, you can make that character more clear. But
they just felt like that feels like when a Tato's
schat GPT like reviews when he's reading a character and
then they suddenly do something like, well, why would they
do that? We have a chuckle. That was Evan Peters's character,
Like almost every act there's something going on, but you know,
coolest to him. I like Evan Peters and he uh,
he was he was chewing as much as he could.
I like when he was just yelling at people and
you know, so.
Speaker 3: I liked his like grid like tattoos that he had
going on. One of the one of my favorite moments
of the score, a little moment here is like it's
him and his mom and they're having like a it's
like emotional music, it's kind of swelling, and then she
slaps him in the face and the music just cuts
and I love that. I feel like that was such
a great little moment of like, are we trying to
build sympathy for this character. No, we're not actually trying
to do that. We're just kind of playing with it.
But yeah, it is a weird character in that, like
he has a lot of screen time and he has
a lot of dial He might have the most dialogue
of any character because Aris doesn't talk that much. Greta
is kind of more silent for a lot of this too.
He might actually have like literally the most amount of
words in the script. So the fact that it's not
one of those things where were a lot of movies
where it's like, ah, man, ten, we needed a couple
more scenes, ten to fifty more minutes to flush this
character out. That's not the case. I feel like they
had the opportunity and they just didn't do it. And
then I also wondered too if it was something to
do with like a I mean, once again, they just
have they have a lot of screen time, but he's
only ever in two spots, right, He's like on that
show floor or he's like in his office like either
typing or being cranky on the bed, And I don't know,
maybe they need to move him around a little bit
more or maybe like obviously then he has a mid
credit like for a bit in the in the grid.
Speaker 1: Technically that's a CGI room though that that could have
been that they could have had that room right beside
his office. You know, he could have walked to sentence
centimeters over and now he's in the grid.
Speaker 3: You know, I guess that does kind of make sense
for a recluse type character. Just you know, have him
hold up in his office for most of the movie,
But I don't know. I just feel like there was
a lot of opportunity more with him, and they just
didn't really seem to try try much because it's, yeah,
none of his actions really make sense. We aren't really
giving a reason to believe why he'd be ready to
kill people and commit murder. Obviously, it makes sense why
he'd want this thing, I guess, But even then, I
don't know. Does he just want to make a lot
of money? Like I don't actually know what his motivation is,
does he you know, is he passionate about the grid
to bring that to the reality. Does he just want
the money that I don't Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And even then and I'm I'm fine with it because
of what we're doing. But again, if you wanted to
make a stronger movie, they touch I feel like on
it for two to three percent of the one hundred
percent of this movie. The fact that he deploys real
life Grid fighters into the real world I thought would
be a much bigger revelation and moment for our planet Earth.
But really the news just covers that as usual and
that's about it. But they're they're leaving the grid lines.
They're all over the place. They're killing literally killing cops.
Like there's mu there are dozens of government officials, whether
it's them or on the big ship fighters. Yeah, there's
ms everywhere going on. So you wo'd feel like this
would be to me if we saw was probably in
our real life, it'd be crazy. And it's tough because
I don't we don't know what the real life, no,
like do they does anyone know at any point did
Flynn go into machine and come out? So it's just
they don't really care about answering any of that of
what is the public knowing what we don't know? And
that's where it's kind of weird because this is the
biggest thing ever, but the world doesn't treat seeing any
of this stuff like the biggest thing ever, right, But uh,
I like to again visually all the like the coding,
the materializing, like the three D printing of all the
tron people in areas, people like that was all cool.
That was fun. And every time someone's coming in, especially
to when Athena's over and he's just getting a lot
of this big things like what's going on? You see
the design, it's like that's too big. And you know,
I get again to your point, Kirking, when you're talking
about aries. She kind of has that too, where she
kind of flips very easy, right, it seems like she's
in facty with aries. And then he discommands one like
thing and then okay, I'm turning on him and I'm
I'm master control. Right.
Speaker 6: That one I had no problem with though, because like
she is she like she's doing what she's programmed to do, right,
Like she's actually a loyal program to fucking.
Speaker 3: She doesn't have those extra lines of code that made it. Yeah,
I guess so, yeah, and like well they don't really
explain that. Yeah, you know, we just kind of have
to believe it. I think she's the number two. It
makes sense that she doesn't have as much work put
into her.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then that's where I pushed back, because when
she was feeling the water, she's getting all those feelings
and they ignore it right away. They do nothing with
that scene of her like she did.
Speaker 6: Like she's like having like an existential like yeah, like
she's about to shoot and then she runs out of time.
Speaker 1: She is she Yeah, But to me, that water was
her because day because he talked to her about the
rain and that was a big mope for him. And
when she felt that water and the score, they're making
it feel like, oh, she's waking up too, She's feeling something.
But now then after she a transformer.
Speaker 4: I think it was defining just the difference between her
and Aris where she she was taken aback for a second,
but ultimately she was still gonna squeeze that trigger. Like
it didn't she was didn't change her her choice, like
she didn't choose to be different, like aries was right.
Speaker 1: I guess. But then it's just tough when you guys
tell me that she is like so motivated to her
goal and it's gonna go no matter what. But then
it's like, well this I'm experiencing.
Speaker 2: I's like a flashban grenade went off.
Speaker 1: She's like, what the fuck is.
Speaker 2: Going on right now?
Speaker 6: Because she's feeling things she's never felt before. It's like
feeling wind for the first time. You've never like what
is happening right now? Like That's how I took it
more so than like.
Speaker 1: Life, I just want to like a little longer. I
just felt like with that and her last speech with Letto,
they were trying to do the same thing as Peter's
are giving her something. You should feel this characters going
on so in here, that's where to me, that's where
I took it as like, oh, they're trying to draw
a line here, but we were taking a bunch of
circles to get there.
Speaker 6: So then the fucking yeah that like when he's holding
her in her arms at the end and I'm just like,
what the fuck are we doing here?
Speaker 2: People like this is so unnecessary. Just let her crumble
and just be programmed. They I don't know.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say the human eyes like that character
too much, but like I maybe maybe that's the right thing.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I just hated that there.
Speaker 6: Was I didn't mind Jared little at all in the
majority of this film, but there were certain scenes, especially
at the end, when he's like it just looks like
he's wearing his regular clothes and.
Speaker 3: Just just so fucking goofy on.
Speaker 2: It was like a fucking cologne commercial or something.
Speaker 4: I was just his choice, that was actress.
Speaker 2: It was just giggling because it just seems people.
Speaker 1: Want to find me and I'm trying to find the world,
and this whole narration going on and oh that's going on.
Speaker 6: I feel like there's a version of this movie where
like I just can't get past that, and anytimes on screen,
I'm just I'm just laughing. So that's where, like, you know,
I said a couple of times now, but like I
was just fooled because I'm like, man, he's actually just
a character that I'm that I'm following now, Like I'm
totally fine with this, like you shout out the possibly
my favorite sceneing the entire movie is is when he's
on the light bike like with her and they're going
through the water and she's like feeling like it's just
so like music is just fucking popping off. The visuals
are insane in the sequence. In the back of my mind,
I'm like, I couldn't imagine watching this in three D.
I'd like I would be thrown up right now. This
is this would be too much in three D. But
like just two D fantastic, look gorgeous. And then he
does this like one jump up in the air. It's
just like a slow moo on Jared Leto and I
just kind of giggled because I'm like, man, this is
just there's something about Jared Letto I just can't get
past even though he's good in this in this.
Speaker 3: Movie, he's got an extremely punishable face, you know. Yeah,
I mean I obviously had such low expectations for him
going into this, and that's why I think I was surprised.
But don't get me wrong. I mean, I'm not pitching
him for Golden Geeks. He wasn't at that tear by
any means. But I think the interesting dynamic I liked
in this movie is that, you know, Greta Lee is
the protagonist, and you know, most of the emotional content
is kind of formed around her character as relationship had
with her sister and what that means for her in
this business that she's maybe you know, not into right
now all these kind of thoughts. But she's not really
explicitly talking about these things herself. It's more that we're
seeing them through, like one through that scene of Aris
who's kind of like downloading all this data on her,
or even like her her friend, her buddy, who are
kind of like asking her things or bringing these things up.
And that's why I think like her acting is so
good because it's not like she's having these big emotional
scenes talking about how much she loved her sister. She
does say that a couple times, but it's more so
like other characters pitching these things at her of like, hey,
how do you feel about this thing? And just like her,
the way she's reacting to it is really great. And
so that's where I think the dynamic between her and
Jared Leto did work for me, Like he kind of
just sets up her to be emotional in good ways
and then she just delivers because she she's so good.
So yeah, I like that dynamic and that the friend
Seth was his name, like the her buddy there comic
relief guy. You know, none of none of his jokes
were having me slap my knees or fall to my
chair or anything, but I liked them, you know, a
good little awkward kind of humor. Goofy guy added a
little bit of levity because no one else is really
making jokes other than aries, who was like intentionally telling
bad jokes because he's like telling his first jokes he's
ever told. Right, Uh, So I like that character though,
he worked well, and like the way both of them
kind of emphasized Greta. I think was really highlight, big
highlight of the film for me.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't in there too much. We didn't have
some terrible thing where he also went in a grid
and he's like, well look at it, like I like you, yeah,
right about it.
Speaker 3: I thought he broke his back when he got launched
into the pinball machine, but he dies, he was fine.
Speaker 2: I thought he died the way he thought. Yeah, seth.
For me, I'm gonna give one big Emma Frost.
Speaker 6: It did not work for me, dirty dog. Every line
just didn't work. The one highlight is when he's in
the when they're in like the North and they're doing
their test. I have that exact same Patagonia sweater that
he was wearing, so that was kind of cool. There
you go, Patagonia sweater of that.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the best you can say about him, sad.
Speaker 6: I just it didn't work for me, Like his humor
and none of it works. I'm trying to think of
a positive to say for him. When they when oh,
when they shoot Jared Leto with the laser, when he's
like this scene had me cracking up. Actually he throws
the rooms cube that of course he solved. It's like,
this definitely is the line, but it's almost like sometimes
we've got to make our own luck.
Speaker 2: And he like turns around and just fucking runs to
the window and I.
Speaker 1: Said, changing plans. Oh, it's as bad charismatically as ever changing.
Speaker 6: And then they zap him and then he says something like,
oh that works like that. That was the one moment
where I think I was a little I think I
was most so just the whole scene was was making
me crack up.
Speaker 2: So Seth was just the little cherry on top?
Speaker 1: Was this the scene you're talking about him to this
scene again? Like this is like what and honestly this
is a camerap so but in real clear like all
the stuff that's yeah, look at all these times back
then everything. Yeah, I wonder what steelcase I got going
on for this.
Speaker 3: The parallel between him being fascinated by rain and her
being fascinated by just like the texture of water in
the grid. I think it's a really great like connection
pointing the characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just it's just a foot.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, they weren't slipping the waters slipping
the water back like the first troll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was red though, So I don't know if
the weird this is weird tr this is weird. Aries
just battle tested water. It's not like the other grids.
I don't know how this water has been going on,
but that's it's just something that dawned on me because Yeah,
I did not love I think let all his aria
is fine because I feel like he has like a
certain scope about Like I said, the humor didn't work,
the jokes didn't work, and just him trying to like
connect with grete Y just something was not working for me.
We needed someone else, and that to me is this
is not just a little thing, right because we talked
about Dylan. You've never seen this movie, but they tried
the same thing and Tabor and Kirk will will remember
in Black and with The Rock, Remember he did the
whole like you're the Man of Black, Like I'm the
Man in Black? Who kis Like they did that and
it's just it's very tough and I feel like, no, no.
The Rock is a similar thing where he's like very
robotic humor that they pare him off with a kid
and it's very like the template is Terminator too. That's
the first time it's really ever been done where Arnold's
a robot. The whole movie, he's with a kid, and
he's learning from the kid, and he's making jokes like
as love he's stuff like that's where all that stuff
comes from. And the only other time I've seen someone
pull that off successfully again is when Fastpenner did David.
And there's not even that much humor in Prometheus, but
the few times he's funny, it isn't that's I mean,
it's that's just like a hard thing to do and
it just didn't work for me here and just the
other thing, it's so funny. I thought about this retro
and these reviews where you get Jeff Bridges, who obviously
it's different in Tromp, but still Jeff Bridges, very personal guy,
very charismatic guy, to the lead of Legacy, and this
it's such like a why have they not been? Like
we should get another like not our Jeff Bridges, but
we should get some of a lot of personality and
put them in this movie. Because we talked about Garrett
Headline and Jared Lettle is different because he's a program,
but still the lead is a blank slate kind of
video game almost main character right that you're you can
put more of yourself into. So it's just funny the
franchise where usually it's like, oh, they started with this
type of star, so we have defines. It's like anytime
we hear about Pirates remake, right, it's like, well, we
gotta find someone. It's like Johnny Depp equivalent. It's just
like they've never had that idea with Tron. It's like, well,
let's just get some basic standard white guy who's going
to deliver in the lines, like very plainly. So yeah,
I thought I thought Little wasn't awful. I've obviously seen
him better. But I'm like, I don't know, I don't
if we get a fourth I really don't want Areas
to be the guy we uh we fall. I don't
know what they would do with that. But yeah, he was.
He was finding, but definitely a weak point out of
all the cast with Peters and Jody Comber Smith and
who I'm hoping is Storm That's my pick. I really
want her to be Storm in then Greta Lee. So
I really liked her.
Speaker 6: I thought she was fantastic, like like there's not a
lot of meat on the bones for like like fleshing
out the carrot, but like just to be that role
of like the termament, like she induced fear.
Speaker 1: She is just yeah, she's arnold from one.
Speaker 6: She's just you know, wipes out on the bike and
she's like trying to get it picked and you just.
Speaker 1: Hear like I love heavy nervous. Yeah, you know, she
she's great. If anyone hasn't seen, she's done a lot
of stuff. She she wasn't the Acolyte, which was not
a great time, but a show I will recommend that
came out last year. Next time, you guys have Paramount
the Agency with her. And finally just said Michael Fastbanner,
that's his spy show and she's a female lead, really
good show. So yeah, she's really talented. I'm pulling for
her to be Storm. I don't know, but hey, this
is Disney movie, so maybe you'll see this good. And
then I think Jared Lettle's getting the call for Magnito
or something be the beast to see in that time, yeah,
or gender flip dazzler and make him do that and
let him sing, you know, and he's.
Speaker 3: Done enough marvel in his day. We can leave him leave.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I think she does a good job considering that, like
she is the more like stereotypical program of like you
have no emotion. Your eyes are always looking dead. You
have no emotion whatsoever. Like the eye makeup that gave her,
like just the eye if you'd called eyeshadow, it's like
the under eye shadow whatever. I thought that was really good.
But yeah, she she did a good job good intimidating
the kind of heavy of this, you know, I guess
you would call her, And I think she did a
good job of that, considering that Evan Peters certainly wasn't
feeling that that need for this movie.
Speaker 1: Are there any thoughts on Athena or anything, any last
notes on Letto? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Again, I I like how she was consistently just mission
oriented and then when she kind of got that upgrade
to master control by Evan Peters, just she was just
full on in in the zone. And yeah, when she
kills his mom, it's like, holy fuck, that's it's crazy
because it was just you you see it with with
Peter's character with Dillinger, when you see like the mom
is totally oblivious to what's going on. It's just like,
I'm putting us off to this, and then I won't oblivious.
Speaker 1: She was.
Speaker 4: She was walking through the control penalty and Athena was
just walking right there to just like shift her.
Speaker 1: In this even the whole movie. I'm like literally when
he's like, hey, don't do this, this is wrong.
Speaker 4: Just like those forty seconds up to her death, she's
going to push her button and shut down their their grid.
But as far as Athena goes, I when she takes
control and she's just reiterating like, hey, like you program
me to do this and execute this by any means necessary,
I'm going to do this. And I really like that
side of the story here, when she takes control and
when things just start coming out and no fucking control.
You know, they could have turned this ship off or
at least unpluged the lasers. Unplugged for sure, but they
didn't uplug the lasers. Now like he as comes out
of the system, I don't know, just like.
Speaker 1: Into a wall low you just like it's a power brick.
They could do something.
Speaker 4: They could do something. When Aries comes out the first time,
and then Peter's character is like, what.
Speaker 1: Are you doing?
Speaker 4: This is right, Well you're not gonna get resurrected after this,
and then he like Aries goes, Then Athenex is someone
to hunt him down, and then Athena dies. Then all
of a sudden, the machines turn on. Athena is like
booting up and he's like, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: And it's this the whole fucking tron fleet, our grid
fleet coming out of here, Like it's just it fucking
cracks me up to just leave the power on. So
like the AI.
Speaker 1: Ship's just producing herself now.
Speaker 4: Like that's a big fucking problem.
Speaker 3: But I was the safety, the fail safs, they were
not in place for this facility.
Speaker 1: He was, you know, as he told he can't stop anything.
This thing kills his mother in front of him and
he just lays on the ground crying. It's like he's it.
Speaker 2: Looked like she was trying to shut it off, and
like the shut off.
Speaker 6: Button is in like the most dangerous It's like right
in the middle of all these fucking lasers. Like why
not have it in a probably multiple locations. You have
a little east stop that you can hit in case
somewhere you see, in case a lackey gets tied on
one of the lasers. But yeah, terribly terribly, terribly engineered.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that stuff where just again where
to me feels like first draft, Like this feels cool.
The same thing. Like, don't get me wrong, this is
where you gotta you know, in a sense, turn your
brain off, just enjoy those visuals. When Athena comes out
with her fucking gun dam transformers, massive flying ships, like yeah,
this is awesome. Really doesn't make any sense though, because
she was seconds away from killing Greta Lee with just
her like gargyle flying thing. You would think you would
just come back, recreate that and go get her again.
No one really stopped her. She moved fast. This machine
that Athena has is I could outwalk it. It is
moving so slow. And this is what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guys are looking out the window, they're like, hey,
do you see that thing? And then there's like ten
minutes past, and then we're like okay, now they're getting closed.
Speaker 1: And I would I would buy for some reason if like,
oh she's unlimited, now she's a locked game over, but
she's only got twenty nine minutes. Just get that jetpack
thing again. You were the only reason rain distracted you
and then you got zapped. No one stopped you. They
didn't kill you. You literally looked away for a second
and then like, so get that backpack back on, go
get her. When Gretna's running through the streets and she's
like up there sending all the stuff that keeps missing,
jump out and get her run at her. So that's
where it's just.
Speaker 4: Like I think cool, right, And again, if she took
the jet pack. If she took the jet pack, the
jet would have blew her out of the sky. Like
it wouldn't have worked.
Speaker 1: You, No, the jets showed up because the huge thing
there this whole movie, there's no cops other than on
the road when it's like, oh man, he's speeding, let's
turn the thing. There's no government until the big UFO
machine gets there. So if she's just on her, if
she's just on foot going to Eve, she's gonna get her.
So it just felt like a let's be cool and
have like a massive machine here. Same thing as like
every that's whet of the script thing literally every time
these characters kind of the portal and I get it.
But the end goal of the scene is you have
to get Eve. Whether it's a good guys or bad guys.
When they're on the bikes, when Jared Lettle comes out
as a good guy, when Athena comes out for the
first second time, and then when she comes out the
third time, all four action scenes are all we gotta
get her, we got it. So everything it's like.
Speaker 3: When but when that thing is Greta Lee, it's like, Okay,
I'm fun, fun.
Speaker 1: I get it. But it's just like when at the end,
when she's just like running the stereoell make her face look,
it's like the whole movie has been Greta stops to
get some exposition and then runs and it's just again,
it just would.
Speaker 4: You know, I'd attributed to the fact that she did
the jet pack, she brought her late laser gun and
that failed, and so I don't think, like, why do
the same thing again. So she's like, okay, I but she.
Speaker 1: Only failed because she was dishracked. If they didn't outsmart
her or anything, they didn't scooby do her. She literally
was within seconds of getting her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But for whatever reason, that's just the program couldn't
couldn't come to terms with that. I need more, I
need more firepower.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess, you know, I don't know one
thing that I don't even know how to think about it.
But like the whenever these Areas or Athena would get
de right from the real world, they would have like
just the most intense death rattle. But it's like they
don't have pain, right, Like I don't I don't know
exactly where the scream is coming from, but it was
like visceral. And it kind of shocked me that it
happened every time except for you to what she's finally
given up at the end. But every other time, Yeah,
it's it is like just.
Speaker 1: They're like this guy every single time. Yeah Jones, Yeah,
I guess it's just maybe you feel something getting pulled
from one vortex to the other. I guess you have to.
Speaker 6: I don't know, you do feel, though, right, because otherwise
they wouldn't be feeling in the water feeling.
Speaker 1: That's true. They have some sort well, and we talked
about that too, right with the legacy, it makes no sense.
We still never answered how does Jared Leto, how does
Quora when they get made into people, what's going on
with their bodies? Like, what's going on? They got organs
all the sudden, like same thing Jared Leto's yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: Voters don't go away.
Speaker 1: But that's that's I mean, like they they never care
to explain those intimacies of feeling and human, which I
kind of I guess they kind of lamp shaded it
when he was talking with Bridges, and I didn't mind
the scene. He's like, oh, well, why is you know
deep bush mode better. It's like, well, it's just a feeling.
And I feel like that's sometimes just Tron where it's
like why is it? Like that just is you know,
and like okay, cool, we'll keep going.
Speaker 3: So pewters are complicated.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely had that realization in this movie when
it was like, okay, plot's very basic whatever, that's just
that's just Tron.
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. And yeah, I had
like a like.
Speaker 6: A third pillar of negativity, but it kind of crumbled
and fell down and it wasn't as bothersome to me.
But that pillar was what you pointed out, Travis, with
just the lack of like government interaction or like military
interaction or like police intert like.
Speaker 2: This seems like the day of the Earth.
Speaker 6: This is a level bit like just light bikes going around,
let alone intercept or what's it called the infiltrator showing
up with the city. Would that just go around and
it's like they actually have like a laser beam path
that I imagine it is like just chopping up anything
that kind of goes through it.
Speaker 2: So it just.
Speaker 6: Seemed that level. They showed like one police helicopter.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, there's the fighter jets, and the
fighter jets get absolutely de true true, too true, and
like yeah, but how many more do you send in
if they did nothing and just got instant killed?
Speaker 1: Right, But so like I guess that's I guess that's
my only thing is like, let's say if right now,
this happens right and we don't know if it's aliens,
whatever it comes down, I just would hope the government
would be like, let's just they would not say let's
just send to and see what happens. Like I feel
like I'd be like, send as many as we got,
and then when that goes away, then it's like the
reinforcements other countries you might say, hey, hold off, but
just sending two and just getting bobbed. And I think
it's just like what Kirk was saying from the very beginning,
those until everything dissolves, those lighte right things are there
for twenty minutes, and I just feel like this is
a that city should be crawling with every sort of
intelligence going on right now, and they keep popping up.
It's not like they pop up once and then it's
been months later. Leto and Athena keep going in and
out of this world. There's the glider. So it's just
it just feels so small scale. It feels like episode
like the like episode one or two in the series
and Stranger Things, but we're really at the finale of
Stranger Things where it's like, man, shit is bad right now.
But again, has this happened before? And Tron do these
people pop up all the time? Maybe maybe that's it.
Maybe it's like a fuck, these guys are back again,
these these biker people. I don't know what was Core doing,
you know.
Speaker 6: And like last thing I'll mention on that is like
even just the logistics of like you have these fighter
pilots like literally bombing this thing in the middle of
a residential city like that just seems so terrible.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like the.
Speaker 6: One fighter like suicide bombs into it essentially, and like
I imagine that just killed like fifteen people minimum, Like
like there's there's people in this It's not like they're
evacuing the city. Like the infiltrator hits a building I
imagine that killed like a thousand people that were just
never even gonna like talk like it just felt like
it was a Godzilla video game at this point, and
like whatever, just danger close, casualties.
Speaker 2: Are gonna happen, citizens are going down.
Speaker 6: I guess Avengers kind of has that too, DC with
Superman like crumbling cities and casualties we don't necessarily focus on.
But yeah, that that that was like a hold back
that I had. But by the end of the movie,
I was just like, whatever, sorry. By the by the
third act, I was like, this is just this is
just the way the game's played. I'm just gonna accept
these rules and go forward with it. Because nine Inch
Nails is blasting the visuals look gorgeous.
Speaker 2: I'm in for this discuss.
Speaker 3: I swear Taylor had something.
Speaker 4: Oh no that that died a long time ago.
Speaker 3: So okay, twenty nine minutes have passed and.
Speaker 4: We'll die off of I'm gonna I'm gonna highlight though.
One thing I really liked where we got to see
and go into like the grid multiple times with Dillinger's
grade especially. But but I really wasn't expecting to kind
of get Ncom's grid, and I wish that we got
a little bit more of that because when they were
doing their raid and we got to see just all
these ncom like programs come into play here and it's
just a really cool like fight sequence that was neat.
But then getting the OG grid from Flynn's computer was
really sweet and I like that. And the way I
kind of take this is that, yes, everything was eliminated
in that I was per Tron legacy, but for whatever reason,
he still remained and it just looked like he just
built back because there were no other programs in there.
So it just seems like he just built back this
basic main frame of what it was. And that's just.
Speaker 3: I mean, that same busted wall was there from the
light bike sequence in the OG, so I still think it, like,
you know, much of it remained, maybe just all the
programs died, but like the actual framework for it is
still there. But man, like another big showed at the
soundtrack there of like a note those moments, like the
amount of things occurring in like with the instruments and stuff,
it dies down big time, Like it's way less complicated music.
It's almost like lullaby esque h and just you know
of course has like the eighties vibes to it, but
I just love how it was like much simpler music
like every perfect but uh yeah, I mean that sequence
was it was fun like that. My theater definitely popped
off when we went to that sequence. I like that
they even had like the weird kind of gray faces
that they had like from the og Ones too. But
I think, you know kind of what Travis was alluding to,
like just the the chemistry between Leto and Bridges was
not outstanding unfortunately, So I think that scene was it
was cool for the visuals for like the nostalgia hit
of it, I guess, but it wasn't outstanding. I suppose
I was kind of confused by Bridges where he was like,
I'm a reflection. I only exist. You exist. Can you
guys explain that to me at all? Like did that
make more any more sense to you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Is he always there?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Is he's only there when someone else is there? It's
like a if a tree falls in the woods, is
that what we're going for there?
Speaker 1: I think he is just some sort of programmed which
it doesn't make sense because he's aged. He shouldn't age,
Like I don't feel like this.
Speaker 6: Is the same for this over like a CGI like
d aging Jeff Bridges of the scene, even though.
Speaker 1: His d aging looked good in this one, though they
did it again when he was on the T.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't. I know, it didn't on the TV.
Speaker 1: It didn't look good.
Speaker 2: Good better than he looks fine. I'm not gonna say
look good.
Speaker 3: On the TV. I'm trying to think when, when does
that happen?
Speaker 2: And what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: That's you cre this is your CGI that you're like,
he looks great.
Speaker 1: No, you're smoking someone else. At the beginning of the movie,
when they're showing everything that's gone down, and just like
I said in Legacy, we're like, oh, I wonder they're
going to talk about Sam Flinn or whatever his name was.
But it's Sam, right, I think, so what a name?
Sam Flinn? I just don't like saying it literally just
in the credits and is like, yeah, he uh, he
sold the company for personal reasons and that was it.
And then then the next article is he was missing,
and that's all you get out. It's exactly what I
thought they do. But there's scene where he they're showing
a clip of him talking about the future to and
that looked way better than Tron Legacy Kirkland. I think
you think you're busy talking, You're busy like making more
pizza bets with Tyler or something, because there you're smoking.
There's no that looked fantastic, like awful, No, no way,
he didn't look robbery. I feel like I can win
on this one because some people doubt me about the
fucking f four baby and then when they went back like, oh, yeah,
what happened there? But no, I think it's just Travis.
Speaker 3: That was a real baby.
Speaker 1: You didn't know, Yeah, all the time, it was a
whole real baby, says Vanessa Kurubah. Yeah, I think it's
just a program because again it doesn't make sense why
he would age or and they didn't explain at all
would happen after from Legacy to now to him why
he's hanging out there? They said if he formed with
the other Flint he would die, and here he is,
so I'm just taking his like he's just like a
he's a piece of code now and yeah, he just
like if no one appears there, he's just like coding around,
flying around when someone appears there. And he gave it
this pretty easily too. Was it wasn't too hard to
get what you wanted from him. You know, he went
him over. You know, that was the time very quickly though,
you know, I.
Speaker 6: Took it like he's just like the program is just
not even going unless somebody actually is interacting with it,
Like that's why I'm here, because you're here, like you
basically you walked in and the occupancy sensor went off
and the lights are on right now, but if nobody's
in here, it's off, and that's just how it is.
It probably is just it's tron so we don't really
need to explain. This is just Jeff Bridges when you
need him, like Gandal.
Speaker 3: Was provided in the room.
Speaker 1: I definitely feels like they designed this movie not to
reveal this, but they're probably, eh. Tracking is not exactly
where I wanted to be put him in some trailers
because it feels like this should be at because if
he was in the whole third act, then I got understand.
But for him being on the literal poster of this
movie and he's in here for less than five minutes,
this felt like something and I kind of wish it
because we knew going forward for such a small scene.
But yeah, I guess they delivered with the old griddin
the bridge is still good. He's still dropping man's as
much as possible.
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, tickles my brain.
Speaker 1: Or dude, it's great.
Speaker 3: But uh. Also the Disney logo, the little Tron Disney
logo to the star like that, and that was cool.
I want to talk about the music more because this
music is so freaking good. So I feel like a
lot of movies like this, you know, especially for a
movie like Legacy that has a very iconic soundtrack, you know,
all these movies are like, okay, you know, maybe it's
new compositions, but it's like it's the same music, it's
the same vibe saying all this and that. And that's
where I think this is really cool because to me,
this seems like almost like a sequel to the soundtrack
of Legacy specifically, like I feel like there are a
lot of those daft punk vibes, but I feel like
they kind of almost just change like the realm we're in,
like take out some of the high notes, putting a
lot more low than it's a lot more like basy stuff.
And maybe that's just because I watched it in a
theater and my seat is like gyrated as I'm sitting there.
But I really like that part, Like I feel like
it was paying homage to the daft punk stuff but
didn't really sound like that in like very specific ways.
And it wasn't just like ripping off like oh, here's
this line or this specific you know, chord scheme whatever
from that soundtrack. So I really like that. There's even
like kind of trippiness stuff in there, Like there was
some parts in here that frownd very pink floydy, like
for any Dark Side of the Moon fans like any
color you like that song, Some of that like felt
very similar to that sort of vibe. So I love that.
The kind of emotional I don't know theme we get
when when Aries is learning about Eve, I mean, totally
different than the rest of the type of soundtrack we
get in this, but it transitions perfectly out of like
you know, right into an action sequence rate after that
out of that, and I think it just works perfectly
even though it's like totally different vibe. And then even
just like some of the timing, this is maybe more
credit to the editors, probably a mix of the editors
and the and the soundtrack here. But even one little
moment I really liked is when even aries are out
in the real world and they have to get to
the NCOM office, which the timing of that, I never
believed that that would have happened in twenty nine minutes
from like that.
Speaker 2: On a civic base. That's all you need?
Speaker 3: Does they stop at a gas station get a car,
But when they're first leaving that base and they're in
the truck still she busts through like two fences in
the in the van and like the music like perfectly
sinks like two big hits with that. So yeah, just uh,
unbelievable soundtrack. We've said it again, but we got to
repeat it over and over again. Should we just not
even do best soundtrack and the Golden gigs this here
and just give the winner award out? Like is the
real point?
Speaker 1: Everyone wants a second place trophy, so at least we
can give them that. But yeah, I think it's uh,
and I guess we don't choose. We don't choose the
winner though, right technically, so that's what we got to
do it. I guess could agree us.
Speaker 3: Sour on this movie, so who knows. Maybe they hate
the music. Too. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think luckily, I guess. April did say very loud,
it's only a couple of see so yeah, yeah, so
we'll leave it up and hopefully see it. But yeah
we'll have to. But yeah, this is bullet for me,
bullet when we get to not bull yeah, I guess,
but we're only for me. It's years. Yeah, we're only
five years away from the twenty twenty Golden Geeks when
we do the whole decade. And I'm saying it's already
locked in there too, so you know, yeah, true and stuff.
Speaker 3: I agree, top five, sign that five for sure. The
light bike sequence through Vancouver, you know, of course we
saw a lot of that in the trailer of like
the bike go in front of the cop car slice
it into that old sequence was great. Like I was
always on the edge of my seat just because of
how fast they were going and the fact that they're
in like a real world location. It just made me
so worried that I don't know, obviously, Greta is not
just gonna get hit by a car and tie and
because that would not be a good way to make
a movie, because I was like half an hour in
but man, the intensity. I really believed it because of
just how fast they were going busting through things. So
I really love that sequence. And we talked about that
Parkaid sequence a little bit when she's getting chased up
the not the staircase but just going around in loops.
But man, when she like launches the bike at Athena
and it like busts her through like the cement wall
and she falls like four stories, I like cringe because
of how much pain I felt just like having to
watch that scene. And so that whole action sequence, you know,
obviously it's kind of the big trailer hit one, but
I thought it was just perfect. I love that. And
then even in that final sequence when all the I
guess there weren't light bikes, there were more like the
drones going through the city and we get like the
zoom out like huge aerial view and we just see
them kind of zipping through the alleyways doing loopy loops
and stuff. Those are definitely some highlights for me on
the visuals Action set PCE side of things.
Speaker 2: Completely agree fantastic scenes.
Speaker 1: I don't think that one would shout out would.
Speaker 6: Be the one I already shouted out with the water
sequence just deserving of a double shout out because it
was so good.
Speaker 1: That's nothing. There's standouts, but there's also not a single
like I can just be like, yeah, this whole movie
looks good, you know, like there's not a single like
oh that log truck, Yeah, there's there's nothing. There's not
even half a log truck. Like it's it's crazy. That's
how you see Vancouver.
Speaker 3: There could have been log trucks everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah they took those out. But that's where it just
feels like the movies were customed again, these big blockbusters,
like well, there's gonna be a scene or two that
just fucking sucks, right, and no, that's here, you know,
like that happens, right, but it's just like that happened?
Speaker 6: Was that c g I Jeff Bridges at the start
of the movie.
Speaker 1: Jeff Bridge, I forgot about it does not exist. It
is not real. It's looking good.
Speaker 6: What they'll tack onto that water sequence that I absolutely
love is just a funny moment when aries like forms
this bike at first he's like saving uh, Greta.
Speaker 5: We're talking about and just the position it was this
her legs were tightly because it wasn't just like he
was laying on her. The vehicles put them together, and
it was like and then luckily they like and then
she moved on.
Speaker 2: She quickly realizes it and then like reverses. You know,
you didn't need to do.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, because it wasn't just he
was on top of her. It was the he was
in striking zone distance. It looked like it was a starve.
It was a crazy shot where it's like you couldn't
had her position any other way like that was that
was something she could've just been like a little higher
up or like in a cradle situation. No, it was
full spread eagle by both of them. It was they
got close that day on set. My god, A couple
of the notes for me.
Speaker 3: One the yeah, I'm pivoting away moving on the twenty
nine minute thing, or I guess its kind of set
up at the start of the movie that's like, Okay,
we got this cool tech, but you know, we have
this limitation only time one point nine minutes. I was
kind of thinking at that point, like, okay, by the
half point wag in this movie, they're gonna get the
code and then like all these you know, things from
the grid are gonna come into the real world. And
that was kind of a surprise for me that that
didn't end up happening only one person ever, or one program,
I guess could say I've ever got like the permanence aspect.
I guess we were using on like you know, orange
trees and stuff like that. But yeah, and I thought
that that actually worked really well, and it could have
also come up very cheesy, especially as you guys have
we're talking about like in that final battle where it's like, okay,
we sent out the first wave of Athena and then
Athena got you know, d Res, We're gonna send out
the second wave of Athena in this twenty nine minute timer.
I don't know why he doesn't have like more programs
ready to go, Like it feels like he only has
Athena and then like a couple other Lackeys and then Aris,
who obviously went rogue.
Speaker 6: So that was a little bit goofy but brought.
Speaker 3: Remember, Yeah, but but even done like, I thought that
it led to some fun dynamics of you know, Aris
popping out of Dillinger's system, you know, getting over to
Flint's system, getting transport into that system, and then coming
back out of that system into the real world. Like
I found that stuff just lower conceptwise. I'm obviously not
a big lower head when it comes to Toronto. I've
seen these movies, you know, one time each, but I
thought thought there was some really fun stuff there as
unique as different. So yeah, I enjoyed, uh some of
those things.
Speaker 1: It was cool, agreed very quick.
Speaker 3: Quick note here is there's like these other two InCom people,
Like there's a guy who's like doing the presentation and
then he has like an assistant. I don't know what
was going on. Then, like I feel like we try
to do some of that stuff.
Speaker 2: That guy like he's like hacking. He's like, that's why
I got the pat office. Bitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he never said bitch. He never said bitch.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I'm I felt bad for the assistant that he had
because I feel like she was giving it her all
performance wise, but she has like literally four words to
perform and she's just like classic character who walks around
with like a iPad in her hand and like it
looks things.
Speaker 1: And she's doing nothing. She's sitting beside them as a code.
So it's like, what are you doing here? You know?
Speaker 3: She only character that probably had a couple of scenes
cut or something, and like I didn't understand why, but
where she's like for you guys, go see this movie
and then she just like only has that stuff to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did appreciate though, because I was really worried
when he aj was that character her like Coco or whatever.
When he showed up and he's like, what's going on?
And they explain what's happening, and he's like, you're all
sounding crazy. One, Uh doesn't make any sense because on
the news is all over about the stuff going on,
So I don't know why at any point he was
like what's going on? But two, I'll says a positive, Yeah,
exactly right. But two, as I'll say, as a positive,
I was really worried they're gonna do their like you're
not fit to run this company. I'm so worried we're
going that where I was like I don't need this
five minute mini villain storyline. And I liked that he's like, Okay,
well i'll help you code. So at that point I
was like, why did why did they just not make
him run and be like I saw the news, how
can I help? Like why even for a minute was
he like, you guys weren't making any sense what happened?
It's like, no, every network is like as you can
see the beams cut through the car, it's like it's
genre making it. We don't know for sure, but we're
pretty fucking sure he sucks, you know, like everything's out there.
So just again, little things that if you were to
look at me like, hey, we could just cut this,
make up say something else, it makes more sense. That's
where That's why I definitely think there's mu full times
throughout this movie that there is stuff cut because it
just feels like this doesn't really track, like this doesn't
make sense in this particular moment of what's being said here,
But you know, then it's something really cool pops up.
You're like, oh man, and then that chord comes in
and you're off, You're you're floating.
Speaker 3: My host notes were just like the inded the two
ending scenes.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess we're talking about Peter. I don't know
if I have anything else to say on them.
Speaker 1: You scared me. There was another end credit because he's
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2: The one?
Speaker 6: What was the second one? There was We're not there yet?
Was it the Jared Little, thank you for coming out
to see my movie.
Speaker 1: No no, no, I misunderstood. I misunderstood what Dylan said.
The MP is one sure have him come back as
a villain. I'm fine with that. I I want though,
because he's a human in there. If we get Tron
for which I think is like i'll say sixty forty
to know, I would like that grid looking really different,
Like to me, it's like someone inside there that's a coder.
I don't want to just make I patch it up,
like I want to see something really popping off in there.
But you know, and I guess it made sense. He
didn't want to go to prison, so I bought. I
bought the ending enough of him doing that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: He had the Dealinger design for the first Tron, So yep,
that was cool. Any thoughts, Tayloring, you shit your head,
but you know, audio people.
Speaker 4: I thought against it's kind of taking back with his
like Master Control program, like face appearance that was in
there and.
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I like the look at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I want one of those.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: I did not like the part when he was, uh,
he's like going back and forth and when when I
think it's right before Aes like decides to go against
him and he's like, why do I have to do that?
Speaker 2: And he's like, he's like, I'm curious. What happened to
that part? He's like, I'm curious why you're curious?
Speaker 6: Of course, I just got Barbosa in my head, so
I'm just laughing. And they said curious way too many
times back to back in that moment.
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful with that word now.
Speaker 6: And then they have they have they haven't like rage
text in his program and like that humor just didn't
work for me at all.
Speaker 2: It's it's very small.
Speaker 1: But even at the beginning when they create hers, he's
like who I am? Who am I? And Peter's like
what am I? Or what are you like? And they
kind of made it like finally like all right, sure,
but yeah, we'll see if we see him again, Yeah
we'll see. At this rate, we'll we'll got a sequel
in two thousand and thirty five, so okay, but then yeah, yeah,
we'll be here. But yeah. And then because they set
up at the beginning that sam Flin was missing and
there was a picture of her or them two together,
so it's like what's happening? And then yeah, Leto just
reveals that he has a picture of Livy Wild still live,
he has for her. Yeah, he's got address coordinates and
he gets in his bike and he's going there, and like,
I guess I kind of get it. But at this
same point, I just wonder, because I guess you want
to talk to someone's like you, but I also wonder,
like what do they actually have to talk about? Like
what why do you actually have to find her? It's like, yeah,
I used to be like you, and now he.
Speaker 3: Can drink coffee or if that will suck up his program.
Speaker 1: Well, luckily Google exists and he can just well, I
guess the program. He's just a person. He's just a person. Now,
I think, Okay, in my head, Cannon, he's just a person.
He has heart everything, digest blood. Absolutely right.
Speaker 3: We didn't heart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't see anything else. So I guess I
guess he's gonna go find her.
Speaker 6: I was, I mean's run that question. Just to interject
with Travis's statement there, I do think he is biological,
but like he's got the artificial AI soul to him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what doesn't what is like?
Speaker 2: But he's got a fleshy wiener, He's got a fleshy heart.
Speaker 8: So she's gonna have the answer to Jared Leto's fleshy wiener.
Unfortunately it's the same she's is.
Speaker 1: She gonna have the answer? What did you do with
that soul? Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's been around for uh cook and how
many years have passed? Ten years?
Speaker 1: Ten years? I guess he can just figured it out
on his own.
Speaker 3: How funny would it have been if the post credit
scene was just Cora getting de res after twenty nine
minutes because she didn't have the permanence come. It was
just like her and Sam bike.
Speaker 1: And Sam explodes because he's like on the bike and
it takes it down and that's why he's missing this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess everything out of Flynn's kind of world
there and the og one would be permanent, right because
you have Clue who's coming out. This gives them the thing, right,
But Clue didn't his his ARC reactor right, so I
guess he would have been able to get out.
Speaker 2: There in the real world.
Speaker 1: I remember any of that.
Speaker 4: Because he Clue needed uh Flynn's life disc right to
get out and so that probably had something to do with.
I mean in retrospect then they didn't know what a
fucking purple that one thing was.
Speaker 2: But now just yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Guess we weren't talking about the permanence code back then.
They kind of retrofitted that one in there.
Speaker 6: So also like at the end of the movie, they're like,
now that we have permanence, we solved cancer.
Speaker 2: We saw it like like they just solved everything.
Speaker 1: Because complete pro AI movie.
Speaker 3: I don't really.
Speaker 4: Understand what permanence does for that, right, because they can
create fruit, right, like just then create fruit was.
Speaker 1: Right, right, It's just he produced. But no, that's why
to me, Jared Letto's body is real because if they
were to be like, look, we've let's say fruit when
let's say oranges when extinct, right, and they're like, we
have this machine that creates oranges, take a bite, and
if he been in it and the orange is exploded,
to be like, well, permanence gets us nothing. That's why
I think they are using all this coding and all
this tech to create like the way fucking I don't
know how it works is I'm a simpleton. The way
they're like, yeah, you know when you make these AI videos,
it like uses more water because these machines are like, fuck,
I didn't know any of this. Luckily I don't use AI. Yeah,
look into it. It's fucking weird. So it's like we're
making our world lose water where people making just fucking
like uh, like, I don't know Jerry theory. No, it's
not look into it. Look into It's not conspiracy theory.
It know it's it's literally not go look into it.
There's no conspiracy theory. It's the machines that power. It's
machines that power and produce a I look into it,
and you'll come back and say, oh, trust you're right,
just like with Jeff Bridges, that is right. No, no, but
you asked me a question. I'm answering it. I answer
your question. The orange just have to be real for
this to even matter. The cancer stuff has to be real.
So that's why I think Jared Letto is real. So
they just literally put into like hey, Troy and figure
out cancer. Figure out this. So at the beginning of
the movie when they're like, way, I could be bad,
I could ruin everything, at the end of the movie like, no, no,
it's good. It can it can help the world. So
we're just getting soft launched for Disney, just fucking us
over all this as stuff and yeah it's gonna kill Saul.
Speaker 2: That conspiracy, it's not.
Speaker 6: I just don't understand how you know what I'm true,
get oranges that don't evaporate after twenty nine minutes to
like this solves everything?
Speaker 4: Now, Like I can type in a prompt cure for
cancer and it creates.
Speaker 2: It, then you're good?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 2: Okay? I don't even want to ask any more questions because.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if you have like a if
you have like a cancer in your kidneys, you could
like three D printed kidney essentially.
Speaker 2: Is okay? Okay?
Speaker 4: See that makes sense that oh shit, we gave them
the twenty nine minute one medications medications too, right.
Speaker 2: They'll be like payment plans, right, the cheaper one.
Speaker 1: Like that Black Mere episode. Everyone watched the Black Mere
episode that Dylan remember that Crystal down one this year
with his wife when she's sick, but you can you
can pay to keep her alive. That's that's there, you remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I didn't hear the Black Mirror parts. I
was like, Chris so.
Speaker 1: Doubt, oh sorr, yeah black Marr So yeah, that that's
where when they're like, oh, we ain't cure cancer. Yeah
in our world, that's what's gonna fucking happen. Yeah, we
ain't cure cancer for one hundred grand or no death forever. Yeah, yeah,
we have no water.
Speaker 3: Yeah that one made sense too, of like yeah, verus
country and AI AI is not the problem. That doesn't AI.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, It doesn't thank you dial, and it doesn't
matter that's.
Speaker 3: Image used water to make that image.
Speaker 1: And doesn't matter any amount of water being used to
me to see fucking mister Rogers versus like Jerry Springer
in a fake WW match that doesn't deserve no.
Speaker 4: Water quality Rogers videos. Oh yeah, and he's like counting
his twenty dollars bills like I got mad stacks.
Speaker 1: And then in fifty years when when your grandkids you're like,
grab a tailor, my lungs have no water. You're like, oh,
this fucking mister Rogers video is tight, right.
Speaker 3: I heard. The most fucked up thing today was I
was at a Thanksgiving dinner with my with my family
at my grandma's retirement homes and there was there was
another guy who came up when he was talking to us,
and he was like, yeah, I use AI to generate
family Thanksgiving stories that I share with everyone.
Speaker 1: Fucking so fucked up. It sucks, it sucks. I promise
you forever. AI will not be in any fucking GVS films.
I promise you that I'm not like, I'm not using
any fucking water. It's not happened.
Speaker 3: I just and again, watch you, Taylor might sneak them
in there.
Speaker 1: No, no, he's getting the cut and like, just like
fucking Athena, she turned in a second. AI. Oh well,
because this is the prompt you want me to do, right, Commander,
Like that's all takes to take one thing too literal
and it's over for us.
Speaker 6: You know, forgetting the aries though, that's just gonna be
perfectly good, right.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, switch, we just gotta rain. Sure. Now he's
just out there looking for Pou tang. So fuck, that's
the next.
Speaker 2: Water.
Speaker 1: I get it. But if it's Siren, I understand. But
you know, anything else, for no, sire, that would have
been ten movie. Yeah, that would have been another one
hundred and ten. You know, check out our You're good
to go.
Speaker 3: Who needs any of these chorism What.
Speaker 1: I need then, don't is grete Lee and the siren.
Get up the white like the super white makeup. Yeah,
anything else.
Speaker 6: I can give it a score. I found that Freda
Lee is forty two years old, which I didn't know.
She looks younger than I thought. She looks absolutely fantastic.
She's a beautiful lady.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, stunny.
Speaker 2: Jared Lettle looks like he was sixty seven in this movie.
Speaker 1: You did some crazy Okay, No, I will push back,
Jared lem Actually he played Jeff in the TV. No,
I will push back. Jared Lettle's all that.
Speaker 3: Baby of this movie is that he actually is almost
sixty Okay.
Speaker 1: I think he's like fifty something, right, but.
Speaker 3: Hold than that, he's got to be like seventy seven.
Speaker 1: He's fifty three. But no, he's looking yeah all the yeah, No,
he's he's looking good for a fifty three year old. Again,
I I STI don't know why they gave him the lead.
I guess I was talking with somebody, wonder Maank, who's
been on mine or Cherry Stream she uh Trump fan
wonder Bank, Uh yeah, no, wonder Maank, And I guess
because we were talking about because a couple of weeks ago,
the director someone asked like why is this character on
this on this but but and he's like, well, you know,
sometimes just stars don't want to come back for projects.
But I guess Kart Headler, I was like, yeah, I
asked to come back and I wanted nothing to do
with me, so again, I'll always come back. Well, I
think you're I don't know. They have the same amount
of Chrismy Garrett.
Speaker 3: Whatever the fuck would not have been doing a roll
of aries though.
Speaker 1: True. But I also just be like, in a sense
of if it's star power, it's like no one's no
one's sitting in a chair because Jared Lowe, there's other
people that could have been put.
Speaker 2: In this role of this film, right, Like like he also.
Speaker 1: Anybody could be a producer. No, that's a.
Speaker 2: Lot in Headline or whatever the name.
Speaker 1: Is, Garret Heaven, No, that's a lot. He came on
the project then probably became a producer after he did
not go to Disney and Jared Lettle wasn't like fucking
pitching them nails.
Speaker 3: They tried to fire him, and he's like, what if
I get two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Kirk on your pitch of anything? He would have been
pitching Hey, thirty seconds to Mars. We could do a
killer album. I could sing the original song like no,
we're good, we got trend and Atticus, We're We're more
okay than Jared ll Dylan. Drop your score eight.
Speaker 3: Point one two five, oh okay, eight and an eighth.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: God, did any thinking about that?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Go an eight. I'll give it this quiet yeah, purely,
just again for I'll be excited to return to this
when I do watch it at home. I'm gonna try
again see it there about. I'll be excited to see
if it's still an eight after all that stuff is gone,
because I could see it dropping. But I don't think
like a massive amount, but for this experience right here. Eight, Uh,
everything I want from the music last, because because again
I said, even this movie fucking sucks. I know, I
got a new Nine Nails album coming out and it's great,
and yeah, if this is a two hour long music video,
hell yeah, I got some great visuals and I really
enjoyed this mortgage port there. So yeah, i'll give it
an eight purely enjoyment level.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be pretty low.
Speaker 1: So you going to give it to Taylor. Yeah, I'm
gonna it out for dear life. At the end of
this movie, you should.
Speaker 4: Saw on it to go to above six here and
say it's a nice age.
Speaker 7: Uh brother, come on, yeah, this isn't.
Speaker 6: That right, hot brother, fucking Gillian Anderson's it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this this is a it was a good time.
Like there are things that you can nickpick when you
break it down and all that, like we we did
hear breaking down this movie and tonight's review, But AT's core,
I think there's there's a lot more pros to this,
whether it's the score, the visuals, just like some of
the acting performances and whatnot. And again some of the
zaniness that you see here too. The flamboyantness, I think
it just kind of fits.
Speaker 3: With you just to throw a flamboyant in there at
the end of too Much. You couldn't go an episode.
Speaker 1: Of I don't think there's anything flamboyant in this movie.
Speaker 4: Oh Peters, that's a little flamboint.
Speaker 1: That's the closest.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, A nice eight out of ten.
Speaker 2: I do plan to revisit this movie.
Speaker 1: Maybe take my dad go see this me No, no joking.
Can't we do the double header with legacy. That'll be
a fun time. So you work on and us off.
What give it?
Speaker 3: Give it a nine out of inch nails.
Speaker 2: That's a good idea.
Speaker 6: I can't do that though, because of in this movie,
and I mean the second pillar, which is the.
Speaker 2: Quick jump from bad aries to good aries.
Speaker 6: I think just discussing with you guys, I'm a little
bit more okay with but Evan Peters is I don't
even want to say Evan Peters because I am an
Evan Peters fan, which was that character it really, I'm
just I'm just damaged from Alien Earth and that.
Speaker 1: Stars that Yeah, fuck, don't bring it back damage.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna give it an eight point three two
five yeah christ Yeah yeah, definitely not an iron No, No,
definitely nuts.
Speaker 2: But great time at the theaters.
Speaker 6: I enjoyed myself this evening, and uh recommend bringing your
father to this one, Taylor.
Speaker 2: One out of one.
Speaker 4: Dad's enjoyed to bring a mother or just the father's No,
your mother, she's gonna ask you been talking the whole
movie being like I think I know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Taylor. It's like, no twist mom.
Speaker 3: On that guy right there, he's terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, looks like, is your No, that's a lie. She'd
love it, your mom. Do you think she's Jared Little fan.
Speaker 4: I don't know if she'd be Jared little fan, but
she would just be like, oh I like this actor.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Suicide Squad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last movie, I took her to a Sasquarck sunset
in the theater, So definitely a step up.
Speaker 1: At least you don't have any scenes like that going on.
But that's true. Yeah, very old Ajan. That is it
for a movie, like we said at the end of
the year, was not on the calendar til we did
a retro to now here we are in tront Aries
and yeah, I don't know. We'll have to see what
it does. It's fluctuated. At one point it was doing
better than tracking, one point is doing lower. But on
the next episode Monday, trest told you I was break
down box off the Monday, so cheap plug for I'll
talk about then and we'll see. I think I think
we'd all be something in the camp of wanting more.
I'm fine even if it's just more again where it's
like new main character, new story, here we go. But
I guess that's one thing I didn't say it's like
not a call. Actually, I think it's a con. The
last five minutes is just like pure sequel baiting of
like Evan Peters is bad guy. Oh, there's core, here's
a coordinate. He's just out there. It's like I would
have preferred the movie anymore because I just don't know
when we're gonna revisit this again. But you know, maybe
when Disney has something on the calendar they empty spot.
Hey we own Tron. Let's do that again, and we
will be there. So until then, promise you and I'll
not be born.
Speaker 3: Good night and