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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the six hundred and

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seventy fifth episode of the Geek for his podcast, I

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am the infiltrator Tress. Now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: I'm the classic curric Colum Pacer.

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Speaker 3: Oh my name is Dylan Muss.

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Speaker 4: The Grid of Grids Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: I did thought that Taylor had us muted there for

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a second the response I'm there, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: You hear that long I was holding off there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, sure, yes, we are here to talk about Tron. Now.

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If you're wondering, hey, we're the other reviews, well, those

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are on Patron. We did review the original Tron back

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in the eighties, we reviewed Tron Legacy, and here we

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are now for like I said, the sixenty fifth episode

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of Geek first to talk about Tron. Next two weeks

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we got black Phone Taylor may or may not be

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on Shelly Oaks. That might be by myself thing it is?

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Was that a thumbs up? No?

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Speaker 2: No, that was a fingerpoint.

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Speaker 4: Wondering what shelbylks is.

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Speaker 1: No receipts of it there, That's fine. Lots of other reviews.

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Peace Figure ended this week. We got gen v ending

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as well. Soon got it, Welcome to Darry and then

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you got weekly episodes of side quests and trash Told

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You and whatever else is going on soon weekly Geek

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will be coming back because we'll have a bunch of

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shows ending so we'll have some space, so that'll be

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a good time. And yeah, so we'd appreciate if you

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head down the links. Everything you need to know is

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down below. There is the most important link right now,

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which is actual life. But I'll talk about that a

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little later, but that is which went for our dream

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November eight, ten am, coolgeous pm yea today and pst

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be there more detailed. Yeah, we're doing ten pm to

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ten pm. That'd be a wild experience.

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Speaker 2: On Japanese time zone by then, so I'll probably be

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rare to go.

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Speaker 1: There you go. But here we are to talk about

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tron Aris. If you don't know how we do things,

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this is your first time listening to us. We do

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a non spoils breakdown, especially for movies, because you know,

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maybe you're seeing this when it goes to Disney, plus

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maybe you're seeing another time, maybe you're not seeing at all.

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Maybe this non spoils review will be the deciding factor.

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So we will not drop a single massive spoiler in

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said review. We'll take a break getting the spoilers and

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we'll get down to everything that you don't want to hear. So, uh,

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should I go to the freshest boy or the least

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freshest boy? I don't know. Here, I don't know. I'll

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like kurkling stew for a little bit. So, uh, mister Field,

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what do you think about the.

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Speaker 4: East freshest boy?

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Speaker 3: That rotten the strongest call sign?

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Speaker 1: You were looking pretty not fresh last night. It was

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pretty tired on the driver. I was on the trivele yah,

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my kids.

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Speaker 4: More tired in the showing. I was awake when we

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: This uh, this, this movie. I was I was really

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excited to go into this, I really really was. And

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I I know we're all gonna be praising it.

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Speaker 2: But my number one.

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Speaker 4: Highlight an assumption. I didn't finish my sentence. There was

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no period at the end of that sentence.

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Speaker 1: Wait.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I think we're all going to praise the music

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in this movie. That's what we're gonna be praising. Now

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there's a period at the end of that.

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Speaker 3: That's not how that sentence was going though.

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Speaker 4: I was going there, but I had to be interrupted

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Speaker 2: Here we are say that again.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, the movie, the movie itself, I think the

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story was it was It wasn't anything that exceeded what

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you know, if they wrote a more of a risky story. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed.

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Speaker 4: When I went into this movie, I was thinking, Okay,

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kind of pulling in familiar elements you're gonna recognize, like

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big names of companies, whatever, and then you're just gonna see, Okay,

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things are moving forward, like they're they're trying to just

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driving this narrative for I don't want to say anything

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into certain things that were really emphasized in the past,

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Speaker 1: Such an interesting take. I feel like what you described

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Speaker 4: I did not feel like this is not like an anthology.

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to do full circle and connect to the other two

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel like the biggest complaint I've heard

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from people is that like it did not connect enough

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to the other stuff, and lots of questions are still

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unanswered my complaints, but a couple like not just bobbyl

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people I talked to seeing the movie. So that's why

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what your first sentence and then that statement, I'm so

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surprised that's what you took for me.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's it's tied to the first movie

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more than I needed, like more than enough, like just

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the right amount. I don't need it to expand on

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that anymore. And maybe this is because of where I

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see that first movie and place it in my likeness

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the second one. Yes, I can see that there are

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some things that definitely need to be answered, But yeah,

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to see a little bit more of that. But I

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will say they did one thing that I was not

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expecting that I really really liked, in terms of the

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Speaker 1: U but spoiler's form at all when you say grid,

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Speaker 3: The gridler that's going on through your riddles.

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Speaker 1: I think you're lucky they did apparently in the last

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trailer show some of what you're talking about a lot

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of people are pissed about that. I didn't learn about

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that until yesterday. But m.

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Speaker 4: But as far as Jared Lough goes, I actually really

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didn't mind him.

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Speaker 2: What is that gonna be your Jesus Christ and pass

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the Christ?

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Speaker 1: It would be good because Jesus Christ. Now I know

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I leave in the back. This is great and what

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Speaker 3: As far as most fresh we got tonight, Yeah, folks,

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so stinky boy, hell yeah, continue to Jared let him he.

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Speaker 4: Was He was actually not too bad. I mean we

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talked a bit about him on the on the drive

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home and and what on some cons and no one

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heard that I was there.

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Speaker 5: You guys were tired.

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Speaker 4: I just blanked him. I was in the theater that

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Speaker 1: And that's like I want to divorce and cars in

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the front lawn and still.

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the previous films, But honestly, I was not. I was

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not really rattled or anything. I feel like he he's

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it if he had like the full gear set up

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a little bit more like his helmet was always off.

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showcase the little celebrity's face and everything like that. But

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I'm I'm a sucker for just that that full mask.

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I don't even like the half faced shield thing. I

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want like the the full like head gear. And then

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it would just be like this, like like like it

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was it was so fucking cool.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no one Jared face so I will agree.

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Speaker 1: With that, and you can't use Tronto's example. He's like

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the eighth most porn character in Tron Legacy, so like

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there's a reason he can't like his faces and show

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he looks cool.

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Speaker 2: He's the bulb.

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Speaker 4: That's what I wanted.

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Speaker 1: The last The last lead didn't have his helmet on

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all the time like flint Son and I I think

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my mind. But I think I saw a lot of

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Jeff Bridges' face. So I feel like we see a

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lot of face, yeah, which is scary now, but a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of face. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What else can I just nitpick here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Just back to the score full circle here, man. I've

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today and it's, uh, it's pretty good. It's pretty good.

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of those tracks, I just feel fucking invincible, Like, oh, have.

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Speaker 1: You played the infiltrator? Yeah, walking anywhere, you're ready to

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Speaker 4: I don't even have the headphones and I just played

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Speaker 1: I did too, today. I was just walking with the

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phone in my pocket as bathing isy to that music.

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I'm like a fucking bathukee dog and like you just

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you get like you get any there's nothing sexual there. Yeah,

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but I just think I put that on. Anybody walks

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up to me, now, you're losing that fight. If I

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soundtrack by back in the middle school fight club era, man,

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I would have been forty and oh you know.

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Speaker 6: What are you instead? Did you finish on a loss?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea because we did it so often.

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It was just like tapouts? Are it was tapouts or quits?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, there there's multiple seat's going on here. Tell you done, Jesus,

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I think I'm done, Dylan, get us on track.

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Speaker 3: I'll try to follow it up. That was if that

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was the most freshness, and I'm middle freshness. I don't

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know how to follow it up. Yeah, I guess you know,

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maybe a lot of people listen to us on the

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free feeds not on Patreon, haven't heard our thoughts on

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the other two. But I think I went into this

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trailer in full, and I knew, you know, the concept

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here of like, oh, Tron, we're going the opposite, now

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we're going into the real world is kind of the

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premise I had, which I think a lot of people

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driving by Roger's Arena, people are popping off. When they

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drive over the Lions Gate Bridge, people are popping off,

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grew with Taylor on as he said that we all

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years or something. I think it's Geese Baby.

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is a thing I feel like on these reviews, it's

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just want to highlight this music. Here's why it's so good.

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and like it's pretty much present from start to finish,

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and so I feel like to me that really carried

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me through and kept the energy high or like made

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I really enjoyed this movie way more than I was

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expecting to from someone who's kind of mid on the

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tron stuff and not really too deep into the lore

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of it all. But yeah, I have a really really

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great time with this. Music is of course great, as

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the Kaid's dated, but it's it's there's visuals that are

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occurring and then you know, Tron legacy a lot of

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visuals and there look really great. And this too, obviously

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pretty fun. So that was like just getting really all

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into it there in terms of the character stuff. Jared Letto, I,

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it's grettily readily fucking it's so good. She's just such

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she just carries it and it's more the way she

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bounces off Jared Leto. I think that balance actually works

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really well between those two characters. So I really like

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their dynamic in here. The villain in this is like

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a zero and a half out of ten, like it

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Evan Peters is like, okay, well oh that vilm. He's

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still fun. So I'll come down to just like watch

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him do stupid stuff. So, you know, I think a

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lot of it, like the plot, the writing not amazing,

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but I do think it's it's a lot better than

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where Legacy was at. And then I don't know, the

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eighties one is just like a fucking fever droom. It's

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hard to compare, like to the writing of that movie,

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but I think there's actually some like solid emotional stuff

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in here, some like good character beats. You know, you

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have your comic relief character who I think is like

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he used pretty well. It's not like a very funny movie,

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but like there's just a little moments of levity. So overall,

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is unbelievable, And yeah, I'm surprised at how much I

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enjoyed this one. It was a real surprise for me,

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especially you know, seeing some chattering the discord and stuff

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and hearing like some online reviews and whatnot, and seems like, okay,

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people are maybe super hot on this, uh, And then yeah,

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I came out to quite happy, and I feel like normally

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for me, I need like a good plot in movies

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like this to be coming into a review like this positive.

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that need because there was enough things that were carrying

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up the movie and you know, good popcorn flick type thing,

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even though I wasn't needing popcorn while I was watching it.

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But anyway, I'll leave it there. I'll pass over to

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whoever's taking this light baton next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll leave the Freshnest Boy last year. Then I'll

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jump off. And that's where to Dylan's point, I feel

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like that somewhere I did understand, maybe years ago, like

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probably early on when we started the podcast, but I

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definitely think there was a point in my life where

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if someone really enjoys Avatar and I don't really understand,

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then like, oh, I just like as the visuals and

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I go, okay, I guess I can't see and I

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don't really have that ye. I feel like teron Aris

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is going to be my answer of like, I'm considering

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going to see this again in the theater. I usually

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never do that for a movie I don't love, because

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it is the music is constantly going and it's weird

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because like I talked to April and she said, like

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in her Airbox reviews she said just loud or very loud.

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And I've heard other people critique like it's just a

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two hour Nine Nails music video, and I would have

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those same things, but they're on like the positive side

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where I kind of like that there's just always music

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like grete Lee will just be like I don't know,

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looking through envelopes and nine inch Nails and Aticis Ross

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and Trent Rezor are just going off on just like

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this godly like note where there's some synth coming to

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me like oh my goodness, like yeah, this is I

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was happy. Was so good because I've been talking up

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for months because I like nine Nails one of my

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favorites ever since I heard funny Enough in seven when

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they did the like there's the creepy version of Closer

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and then if they're like what is this music? Who's

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this band? And hey, they've already won a Gold Keys

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before the one for Soul like they did Challengers, they

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did Social Network, they did Girl Drink Tatoo, They've done tons,

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but this might be the the the Magnum opens for

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their movie stuff. I can't like say for their their

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their just actual career, because they have some just amazing

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stuff and I just love that Dat Delivered. And I'd

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heard it before because i'd listened to the album, but

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with the movie It's My Sports. But the first time

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you hear ninth Nail Song is someone typing on a

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typewriter or a keyboard and the hit enter. Yeah, it's

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it's a sixties troll on early eighteen hundreds. But when

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they hit the enter bar and you and it goes

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right into the ninth Nail song, like, oh my god,

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like I can feel I'm not sure Kirkling if you

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got to see it where you didn't did you have

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to see on Imax? They have some good speakers. Yeah,

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I just feel like even with the al right speakers

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we saw on the West Side that wasn't the extreme screen,

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I could feel my spin like vibrating off a nine

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inch nail. So I can say, like, there's probably a

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whole point, maybe two points that's just purely the musics

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and the visuals. This is something that I want to watch,

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is it? Just like and maybe some people might think

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this is a bad thing, so I understand it feels

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like a great amusement park Rye in that sense where

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you're just locked in and here we go. So and visuals.

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I think it's up there with some of the stuff

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we've talked about this last decade, like Mad Max and

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Dune and even some of the early like even Force

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Awakens is like a really great looking movie right where

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there's so much stuff now that is just rush and

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it's not the way it used to be or the

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time that it got to cook. And it just was

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really refreshing that man. And I'll show it in an image

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of later when we're talking about there's just one scene

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where jedlar lettos on a bike and he's in the water.

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He's just going through stuff. I'm like, I feel so

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bad for the animators and everything because it's just like

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the render time and because it's it's not just like

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a oh it's a wall and it's orange and kind

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of flickers. This entire landscape that he's going by for

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two minutes, all his details and it's all different. I'm

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just like, ha, It's it's a Smorgasborgus stuff going on.

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I think for me the he was miscast for one

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particular thing. I think the aries Grid stuff. He's fine

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at some point they tried to do the Terminator robotic humor,

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and I don't think any of that worked for me.

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It just it fell off like and I also don't

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think him and Greta Lee had a good back and forth.

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I think Greta Lee's also good in this movie, but

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I don't know if she's ever gonna be bad and anything.

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I've only seen her like three things now, but she

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continues to deliver and I can't wait to see the

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rest of her career. But I just didn't buy the

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chemistry and I didn't like that humor. Yeah, I'm I'm

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with Dylan where there's a reason they got Evan Peters

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because I just feel like they've looked at this role

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and there's not much here. But if we get someone

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funly givin Peters, that'll that'll rise it up. And even

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then it's just there's a couple of small things you

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could have rewrote or changed. I would have made the

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character even just a little bit better, you know. But

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luckily Peters is there. He's chewing up scenery, so that's great.

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Gillian Anderson's in there. She's always great, even if they

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give her nothing to do. She just has like aura

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going on and that's this movie. This movie is a

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vibes movie. It's a there is like aura farming sometimes

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for half an hour straight. It's just like, look at

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this cool stuff. If we have in Tron and man,

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I said in all the retros, I'll say it again,

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they won't do it, but I need some Triple A

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studio to make a fucking great Tron game. I want

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to be on that bike. I want to have Trent

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Reznor in my ear well. I want to be the infiltrator.

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So no, this Yeah, I had a really good time this,

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even though story, yeah, it's pretty weak. They have like

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three to four action scenes and the mcguffin is the

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exact same thing. There's no At times does feel as

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a first draft or the treatment, and it's like that's good,

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let's go with that. It definitely felt Okay, we're gonna

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do the visuals, we're gonna do the audio, and then

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after that we'll figure everything out. And I joined to

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her stitch. She's playing just kind of like a basic role,

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but I think she brings a lot too because I'm

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a fan of her and I think she brings an

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intensity that same thing like the Evin Peters there's not

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much there, but yeah, and I can kind of see

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because the same thing as well we're talking about with

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Taylor's nonspoys. I think there's tons of stuff they don't

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really answer, but I think we kind of memed about that.

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There's even something that we meaned about. We were going, oh,

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how will they answer this question, and we're like, oh,

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they'll probably just say this, this and this, and then me,

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don't that, And they literally did that in this movie.

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They the stuff that you want to know, they'll drop

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you two sentences and then move on. So yeah, I

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don't think the script is amazing. I don't think the

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story is amazing. It is kind of lacking some full closure,

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even though I think they're trying to hope that they

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can do more, which I think is a risky play nowadays.

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So yeah, I surprisedly enjoy this, but I also see

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people's critiques. It's kind of like the way Avatar is now,

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where I get why people love Avatar, and I get

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why people really dislike Avatar, and you know, I family

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Clay said that he said he heard someone say this

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is the worst movie Disney has ever produced. That person

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is not seen enough Disney movies. This director has directed

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a worse Disney movie. He did the Last Prize the

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Caribbean movie, so there's already a worse Disney movean this.

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This is nowhere near the ethos. I think that's a

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lot of people upset because they hold Tron special and

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I don't, you know, like dal mention the retro like I,

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I appreciate, appreciate the original Tron for what it did,

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and luckily with Tron Legacy and this, I think they

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all have distinctive styles and that's really cool that it's

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multiple decades separating them and they're doing something with the genre.

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Legacy would still be my favorite. I think the crux

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of Jeff Bridges and the Sun storyline, I enjoy that

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a lot more than anything the other two. But yeah,

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this is one that I want to see in theaters,

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but I don't know how much i'll watch at home.

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I got the album on Spotify, so I just don't

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know what it's gonna be like when I'm watching on

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a fifty five to sixty inch we're in the theaters, man,

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and I want to see it again because I don't

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know if this is gonna movie that's gonna be re

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released in twenty years, so yeah, I'll report back. But yeah,

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I had a good time as a visual and audio

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just melting of the mind and nine s nails. They're untouchable,

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so crooking pats are thrown at you. You're very fresh,

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but you had some that you cool down, gather your thoughts.

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Where are you on tront Areas?

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Speaker 2: Haven't fully cooled down? It's still pretty Louke.

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Speaker 1: You want us to go again?

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Speaker 3: Taylor Field Full Circle?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had a really fun time with

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this movie.

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Speaker 6: I think I have two major complaints that I'll I'll

476
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leave one for spoilers because it is a spoiler, and

477
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I'll leave two for now by saying that I hated

478
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Evan Peters character. And I think Alien Earth really did

479
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a number of me with the boy Cavalier character, who

480
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is very similar in certain ways to Evan Peters character.

481
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Speaker 2: And like character in Alien Earth.

482
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Speaker 1: And there's a rich billionaire character all all like that character.

483
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Speaker 2: So yeah, who's running a company?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's just like, I don't know, I'm just

485
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having PTSD flashbacks. So like I do like Evan Peters,

486
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but like I just could not get past that. And

487
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I don't think the script did anything to like win

488
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me over on him, like.

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Speaker 2: He's just a very yeah.

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Speaker 6: So so that like had a bad date in my

491
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mouth every time he was on screen, like it's the

492
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whole movie isn't.

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Speaker 2: Just him, which is nice, but yeah, that that was

494
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a big complaint for me. And then uh, yeah, I'll

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talk about the other one.

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Speaker 6: We get there, and I think, like I I have

497
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seen the first trailer that was really like the selling

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point for me on this movie. I had zero interest

499
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until I saw that first trailer in theaters. I'm like,

500
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holy shit, like the scale of this because of course

501
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that first trailer showed the the infiltrator like in the city,

502
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and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, fuck, this looks crazy that trailer.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, the trailer is amazing and I was almost

505
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said a spoiler I saw.

506
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Speaker 6: I don't want to talk too much here, but I

507
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feel like from getting that trailer, I didn't.

508
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of surprised with with some things that happened

510
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in here, which is a positive because I I just

511
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wasn't expecting us to go a certain route with a

512
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certain character. I will continue those thoughts when we get there.

513
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But yeah, everything else though, positives like like yeah, the

514
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plot isn't like it's not it's not a golden script

515
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by any means, but like I.

516
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Speaker 2: Don't need that. I I wanted.

517
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Speaker 6: I wanted a fun action movie with like killer visuals

518
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and like an amazing soundtrack, which is what I got here.

519
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And I was saying, I went with my dad, who

520
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he actually made the comment that he wants to get

521
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a Tron video game.

522
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Speaker 2: So there you go, Travis.

523
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and oh god, what was the other thing

524
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I was gonna say?

525
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Speaker 2: I can't remember now, but.

526
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Speaker 6: Jared Leto, he like fooled me into being like, man, like,

527
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I'm actually like rooting for his character here because like

528
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Morebius and I think the last like whatever I've seen

529
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him in as of late, he's just.

530
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Speaker 2: Like a villain in my mind. And what was it?

531
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Speaker 3: The Joker?

532
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Speaker 1: Of course?

533
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Speaker 2: The Joker? Of course, there you go.

534
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Speaker 3: The great could You Forget Network is named after an

535
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iconic line.

536
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Speaker 1: Of one of the most famous episodes's first ever episode.

537
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Speaker 6: You know, but like I don't know, there's just moments

538
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,519
where I'm like, I'm like finding myself rooting for his character,

539
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,039
which was just like like a trippy sequence because I

540
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:55,680
just feel like I haven't rooted for that character, that

541
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actor character in a very long time, and those movies

542
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:02,319
that had me had me there, and uh, I don't know.

543
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,880
Definitely Greta Lee I would hold higher than him. I

544
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:08,240
really liked her. She's like a certain outfit for like

545
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:09,960
majority of this movie, and it just felt like a

546
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,400
video game kind of jacket. Yeah, it's like a like

547
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,960
a rock and it looks so badass. And the color

548
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:17,920
tones too, it just it looked really cool. So I

549
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,319
really liked her character. I think it's like a good

550
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,359
enough continuation of the story, like it's I don't know,

551
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,519
I'm not the biggest fan of those other movies, so

552
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,519
like I think just scratchy the surface is fine by me.

553
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: And yeah no, but overall, like it's it's definitely a

554
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fun time.

555
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Speaker 6: I would definitely recommend people go see this in theaters because.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with you, Travis.

557
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Speaker 6: I think on a on a just at home view,

558
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like there's certain movies you can just wait till it's

559
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,039
on BOD, but this is one.

560
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Speaker 2: I would definitely recommend for a theater experience.

561
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Speaker 6: It's not till the level of something like Dune, but

562
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like that's another movie example of like you gotta see

563
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,240
it in theaters. It's just it's such a different experience.

564
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,279
Very envious of you, Dylan getting the IMAX experience and

565
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,680
something also observation because of course Travison Taylor didn't see

566
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,720
this on the West Side because the Extreme theater.

567
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Speaker 1: I don't know what we did see it on the

568
00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:06,200
West Side.

569
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,759
Speaker 2: Oh oh there you go.

570
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 6: Oh great, because the run times the Extreme theater only

571
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three D viewings, which is fucking crazy. Why are there

572
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,960
even three D movies? Tyler and I were talking about this.

573
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I think James Cameron is at fault for this. I

574
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,799
think the reason why we still have three D is

575
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:23,720
literally just because of him started this movie.

576
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: We've got a Predator bad Lands trailer. Trailer looked awesome.

577
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 6: At the end it said experience in three D, and

578
00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:32,119
I just did a lot of funk off in the theater, like, seriously,

579
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just let three D die.

580
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: Save it for Avatar, save it for James Cameron. I

581
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,880
hate that so much.

582
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Speaker 1: Because that's the first time Avatar goes back and then

583
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people are like, all right, I three D.

584
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Speaker 3: You know, well, remember James Cameron has an understanding of

585
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how the human mind perceived it.

586
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,319
Speaker 2: Only let him, Only let him do it?

587
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 4: Then, did you get a trailer for that Chris Pratt

588
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,160
Mercy movie because they pitched that as as well.

589
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Speaker 1: Which is so funny because half the trailers that Chris

590
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,440
Pratt in the chair, it's like things zooming past his face.

591
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,160
And when they say three D two, it's like, why

592
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,519
would you see that in three D? I'm like, well,

593
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,039
the things are zoom passes face for all trailer, Like,

594
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I'm not seeing that in three I'm not seeing that

595
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:10,839
on theaters. But I'm like, it clearly showed YB three

596
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,440
D things are whipping at you and everything. But yeah,

597
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,960
that was a wild trailer.

598
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, not seeing that one. I'm gonna pass on

599
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,319
that one. But I think I'm gonna close all my

600
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,240
thoughts there. I can't wait to listen that. I haven't

601
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listened to the soundtrack like on its own yet, so

602
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,240
I'm excited to jump in there. It was I don't

603
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,680
I don't know if I'm like a nine inch Nails listener.

604
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,279
I'm sure there's no more classic song that I've that I've.

605
00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: Heard in there's room in the fandom.

606
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: There's room.

607
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:38,519
Speaker 2: You guys will have me.

608
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: You've never heard Closer because you've seen seven right with

609
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,759
Brad Pitman Moore the opening credits when it's all the

610
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:47,359
stuff John Doe's doing, that's a nine Inch Nails song.

611
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,559
If you were the second you bet when you get

612
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:52,279
the credits, you make oh this fucking song, like, yeah,

613
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,519
I'm sure you've heard stuff. Technically they created the song

614
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,119
Hurt that Johnny Cash eventually made, you know, the better

615
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,799
version of but it is originally Inchinail song very different.

616
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:04,319
But yeah, you should just go on Spotify ahead of

617
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,279
this is us and plus I put tons of scores,

618
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:09,519
like I said, Soul Challengers, Social Network, you know, they're

619
00:27:09,559 --> 00:27:11,920
tons of stuff, so you should you should take a gander,

620
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you know, so.

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Speaker 2: Taking over.

622
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to bump out some of this

623
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:18,599
three four am, you know, so wake me up. The

624
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,160
Infiltrator Extra Life happening November eight, twenty four hours. Look

625
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at that transition. I'll do quickly because we got a

626
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,000
late night review. But we are trying to raise We're

627
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,359
trying to raise BC children. We're trying to raise funds

628
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for the BC's Trills Hospital. All the funds we raise

629
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:39,440
go towards recovery, medical assistance, equipment, surgeries, everything you can

630
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,960
look into it. They have some good pair not paracrafts,

631
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,720
catalogs and articles this year talk about all the things

632
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,119
they do, so look out for that. But yeah, the

633
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,720
link is down below for everything where to donate. Our

634
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,480
schedule that looks pretty much logged in the goals that

635
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,759
we're gonna be doing, at least some of the goals.

636
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:55,559
There's lots of fun stuff. We'll talk about way more

637
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,920
when we get closer, because it is just still just

638
00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:00,000
under a month away. But yeah, it's always a fun time.

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Come join and watch. If you can't donate, we understand

640
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:04,799
you can't buy some shirts that go towards there, and

641
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:06,839
if you want to donate, that's tax deductible. But if

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00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:10,160
you can't, just today come watch go in the go

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on the chat, share the video, like the video because

644
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,559
that always pushes it in algorithms. And we many times

645
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:17,519
that people donate that we've never heard of and we

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never heard from again. It's just to see a name

647
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donation and that's it, and we appreciate all those people.

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And like I said, if you can't, just come join us,

649
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,279
and it's always a fun time. Especially we always say

650
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this too lots of our you know, UK or Europeene listeners.

651
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If you're oh, you listen to us on the replay

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earlier on, we'll be up your time zones will be there,

653
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So we welcome anybody to come wake us up and

654
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,920
have some fun. And yeah, it's gonna be I think

655
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a very very fun time. We had a great GVD day,

656
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so I think we're coming off of that and that's

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we went to one am. Then this is a full

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It is a full day together, so look out. Tons

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of fun stuff. We very much appreciate it. And yeah,

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if we can get close to our goal, we could

661
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raise twenty thousand dollars. He's pass nine years for BC

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Room's Hospital, which is a lot, so big thank you

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all of you helping, and thank you to you know

664
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you guys. And yeah, it's gonna be a good time,

665
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so look out for that. We'll be back after this

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first ad break into full spoils and we are back,

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all right, Where do we want to start with the

668
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tron ares here?

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Speaker 4: I got killer, I got here. I want to start

670
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:20,480
with Cameron Monaghan. That was the worst place.

671
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Speaker 1: That was the worst place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the one.

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Speaker 2: Big name appearance, he gets marked. He gets marked on

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the infiltration scene.

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Speaker 1: So that that is the guy that plays cal Castes

676
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,799
in the game. This is his training for Yeah, this

677
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:44,799
is his training for tron Ares. He's the guy that

678
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,279
gets killed off when he's like, we can't leave anyone behind,

679
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and was like, you're all expended on. He's missing the leg.

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Speaker 3: So I thought he looked distantly familiar. That makes sense.

681
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,359
I've seen him in uncanny way in a video game

682
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four years ago.

683
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Speaker 1: His name was in the opening credit as well. His

684
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,400
name's there, so clearly he must have had scenes that

685
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they cut because that's a And that's again that's where

686
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the script weak as nails, because they're trying to set

687
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this up as this is a moment where Hay sure

688
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,599
just regular script breading nails, like five, yeah, we're not

689
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the nine yet. We'll may at the end of the review.

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But they're trying to set this up that Okay, everything's

691
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going wrong and one of his guys are down and

692
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we gotta go back and Ev Peter's like, nope, you're

693
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gonna leave him behind, and that really is starting to

694
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show him, Okay, show Aris that okay are people they

695
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mean nothing to. They don't call this guy Master Control

696
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because he's Master Control, but the creator right, and it's

697
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starting to lay those scenes. But the problem is we

698
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never saw a scene with him at all before. It

699
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was literally just oh, man, Cameron's here and then he's gone.

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And I thought, because he is at least a little

701
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,319
more known actor, like he had a huge round Gotham too,

702
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:53,640
he played the Joker for like five years, I thought, Oh,

703
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,960
he's gonna to off here something like someone's gonna he's

704
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gonna come back, right, because characters come back all the time. Nah,

705
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he's just dead. So I'm assuming he had seen that

706
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:03,960
were probably cut and I bet there's something with that

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00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000
movie because this is two hours and we know Disney

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00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,720
the past couple of years with these blockbusters, they've been

709
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,519
trying to make them it like a tight two hours

710
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:13,799
or under. So that is disappointing because that that moment

711
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,400
I still think worked a bit for easily one of

712
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,880
them behind, but could have worked more if we had

713
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,960
a couple scenes of you know them together training I

714
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,519
don't know, something, something to get some rappaport, but yeah,

715
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,799
very odd to get like someone that's a like a

716
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,160
I don't know, not just an extra and he just

717
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,000
killed off like that.

718
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:34,599
Speaker 4: It felt like thor Ragnarok when they're doing the play

719
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:36,839
and all of a sudden you realize that this actor

720
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,599
is Matt Damon and he's there just for a brief bit.

721
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,680
But not even that that bad, because yeah, that's it,

722
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,839
that's just like.

723
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: What Matt Damon signed up for.

724
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, there's on purpose.

725
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you look at this, yeah, clearly I feel

726
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,359
like he signed up for more. And I'm just kidding

727
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,319
to just like, Okay, he was gonna be the At

728
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:58,559
first I thought maybe he would have been like a

729
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,440
villain or something like that, and then they squashed that

730
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:05,880
idea and just went with with Athena, And then I thought, no, no, no, no,

731
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,119
looking at the situations, like clearly more so that he

732
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:10,440
would probably just be a friend, like, oh, you saved me, Aries,

733
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,519
I'm gonna just follow you on this journey. We're going

734
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,240
to the real world and you know, both of us together.

735
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,960
But I was joking with Travis or like Jared Lois

736
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,160
were like, no, Cameron can't.

737
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,079
Speaker 2: Be on this movie anymore.

738
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: Like just had to run in with him or something

739
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:21,359
like that.

740
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: So he run in with him. You call me Aries

741
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,839
on set, sir. I'm not sure. Apparently he tried to

742
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,720
do that to Jeff Bridges and Bridges like, I'm not

743
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:35,839
doing that, man. I would have loved to see the

744
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,759
set videos of Bridges telling like I'm not doing your metha,

745
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:42,160
acting like we're just doing the scenes, all right, Yeah, exactly.

746
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I wanted to ask you guys about that

747
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:49,640
element of Aries' character where at one point, like you

748
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,359
see it on screen, where he's like empathy initiated or

749
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,519
wherever it says like, is that something that do you

750
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:59,000
guys think that Dylinger I forget his first name, but

751
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,359
Evan Peter's care Like did he like manually program in

752
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,759
like empathy specifically, or is it more that he just

753
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:08,839
put so much depth into the code and all the

754
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,440
details into this got into this I don't know character.

755
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,079
I guess you could call him such that he was

756
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,359
able to like develop that on his own by like

757
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,640
watching videos of human beings and like, oh, like that

758
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:20,680
is a thing that human beings do, and then I'm

759
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,279
gonna add that to my database. Like I couldn't tell

760
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:26,599
kind of where that line was. I don't know if

761
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,240
it was more clear or less clear to you guys.

762
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:31,799
Speaker 6: I took it like from from the start of the movie,

763
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,759
Like it's it's clear that he is like supposed to

764
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,400
be learning from his experiences, like right, like like when

765
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,559
he's doing his combat, he gets bopped and then he

766
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:43,319
counters it, and then he just like just evolves that way.

767
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,839
So I just took it like he is like a

768
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,839
self learning thing. And I think there's even a moment

769
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:53,279
when he's like writing the code it says like, ah, it's.

770
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: Been like it wasn't.

771
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:56,839
Speaker 6: It didn't say self learning patch, but it was something

772
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,799
to that level. So then like from that point on,

773
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,319
it was just like, Okay, this is gonna be AI

774
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,039
that just like ever evolves, always learning, which is something

775
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:07,839
that kind of happens nowadays with some of the AI developments.

776
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:11,559
So that's how I took it, like he's just reacting

777
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:15,159
to his environment. I'm glad you went there next, because

778
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,639
that was my number two hold up. I think that

779
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,960
just the jump from evil aries to like full on

780
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,639
good guy aries, like like full on good guy, like

781
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,320
this guy is morally like the gold standard of good

782
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,079
Now by the end of this movie, I believe that,

783
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,360
like I don't think he could ever sin a day

784
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:34,559
his life. Now that's just my like it's not shown

785
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,840
like in in Iron but like just how the movie ends,

786
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,039
that's the vibe I get, and to me, I just

787
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:43,719
needed more substance to get there.

788
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,599
Speaker 1: But like no, not just that I'm fearless so I'm

789
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:50,039
powerless sort of thing, like I am powerful.

790
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,159
Speaker 6: It was it was too much of a jump for me,

791
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,239
and like I just couldn't really get attached to him

792
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,480
being like the hero character. That's where I was like

793
00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:59,039
alluding to early on, where I'm like, they're like fooling

794
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,280
me into like almost trick to like root for this

795
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,639
guy now even though it's like at the end of

796
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,079
the day, they haven't really given me like a big

797
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:09,079
reason to to feel that way, because it just seems

798
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,239
like it is just such a jump because yeah, he

799
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,480
reads chapter twenty of Frankenstein and now he's just a

800
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,199
good guy. Like I think I wanted a little bit

801
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,599
more cracks to the character, like like have him more

802
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:21,920
just complicated than that, like like like maybe he's just

803
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,960
just questioning everything, but it's no, it's just it's just

804
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,280
a very basic switch that he flips and he's just

805
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,199
full on good guy. Now he's he's he's white instead

806
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:31,960
of red, and like he's just a good guy.

807
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: Now, so I think.

808
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: It's just him being a program though it doesn't it

809
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,440
not like just kind of making that quick turnover.

810
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,559
Speaker 6: I think just because he's supposed to be like a

811
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,079
very like the highest tier of AI, it just seems

812
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:48,159
so basic where it's just there's right and wrong and

813
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:50,480
he just he just switched where I just feel like

814
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,599
it should be so much more complicated to that. It's

815
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,159
I'm almost thinking like Alicia of Thecandor's character from Ex

816
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,519
Makana on how like she is, like you see her

817
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,000
just question like rethinking life as a whole and like

818
00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:04,960
figuring out who was a good guy who's not? And

819
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,960
like what she just just comparing that type of AI

820
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:10,119
character to what we got here just seems super.

821
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: Super basic in comparison, and.

822
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 6: The fact that that's like the main pillar of this

823
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,119
movie is this character of Aries and if he if

824
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:20,199
he isn't just straight good guy, like it's a lot

825
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,199
more complicated for InCom for Eves's character, like like just

826
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,039
the whole plot is just a lot more messy. So

827
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,400
I yeah, that was my other number two complaint that

828
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,639
I had. But like what I was gonna say is

829
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:33,800
I don't think I even.

830
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:36,119
Speaker 2: Want that version of the movie more like, like, do

831
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:37,800
I want to more than Drawn?

832
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,679
Speaker 1: Right, because like, yeah, there are it's pretty black and white.

833
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:42,480
Who's the bad guys? Like you're literally in the last one,

834
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,079
you have good Jeff Bridges, evil Jeff Bridges, like the

835
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:48,639
bad guys in the first Drawn just they are evil

836
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:51,039
guys trying to kill the other programs. So yeah, no,

837
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:52,559
I can get what you say, because you have pretty

838
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,719
much all they had was him secret Lee who's looking beautiful,

839
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,400
and then he's like, she's empathetic and then boom, he's

840
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480
off the races of like and maybe I said all

841
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,840
take was a good beauty. Yeah, all took was rain,

842
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,360
which I get rain and a beautiful nice girl on

843
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,079
that turnaround, so math, that's all took.

844
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:09,079
Speaker 3: But I mean I also had that sequence where he

845
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,199
like experienced her entire life digitally, right, A little weird.

846
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: That's a good observation, A little weird.

847
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:17,639
Speaker 1: I know he has to, but he's definitely saw.

848
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess absolutely, what do you think she's posed online?

849
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,880
I don't know. I mean, I totally see where you're

850
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,440
coming from. I think for me, it actually was kind

851
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,199
of believable somehow, And I think part of it is

852
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,440
just like the accelerated nature of how quickly computers can

853
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,840
like out plow through information and the fact that like

854
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,480
in this moment that for us is like twenty seconds.

855
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:42,960
For him, it's like he has literally perceived like any

856
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,800
thing that she has ever done, like through a computer screen,

857
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,320
which is like a lot of information. And it's like,

858
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,880
I guess he doesn't have a lot of context of

859
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,679
other human beings, so maybe it is a bit of

860
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,039
a stretch that he would see that. Okay, maybe I

861
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:55,760
shouldn't kill this person, But I think the fact that

862
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,679
it was specifically her, like if it was if he

863
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,320
had gained that knowledge on someone and like, oh, I

864
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,760
now know what empathy is because I saw this person

865
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,320
and they had this sister and I don't even know

866
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,239
he knows what a sister is, but like, okay, he's

867
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,719
learned quickly what a sister is, sees that, Okay, he

868
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,039
lost his sister, saw like this all this emotion. The

869
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:13,840
fact that it was specifically her is the one that

870
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,840
was going to get get killed. Really when they're like,

871
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,320
I guess that was kind of like the only way

872
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,960
that they were going to get the information they needed.

873
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,239
But I think since it was specifically her, It became

874
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,760
like a little bit more believable. But yeah, like that

875
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,280
whole extent thing, we kind of just have to buy

876
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,159
into it a bit because we only saw twenty seconds,

877
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:32,199
whereas he saw everything.

878
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,679
Speaker 4: I think the two you take into account his personal

879
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,760
motivations and his goals where this perma code whatever it is,

880
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:42,280
he sees that, and yes he knows okay, like Dillinger

881
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,599
can get that. But do they ever really explain why

882
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,880
he wants to keep it out of Dillinger's hands, because

883
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,079
this is when he's forming his right from wrong kind

884
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,039
of moral code and perspective. Like I just feel like

885
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,400
he himself because he wants to exist in this world,

886
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,880
he's fascinated by it, but still that I don't know

887
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,679
if that's enough to really justify him burning.

888
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: I took it more as like it wasn't necessarily that

889
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,079
he didn't want to give it to Dillinger. At first,

890
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:12,159
it was that like, okay, we'd have to kill this

891
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:14,400
person in order to give the code to him, and

892
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,559
he wasn't okay with that step, And then over time

893
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:19,239
he felt more of a bond with her, saw more

894
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,079
of how Dillinger is kind of fucked up. And you

895
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:24,800
know when he sends like his best friend after him

896
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,400
too to kill him and stuff, obviously that's like, okay,

897
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,039
this guy's this guy's kind of crazy but stepping stones.

898
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: And Dillinger's never gonna do what she's gonna do, right.

899
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,800
He multiple times talks about how expendable you are, Like

900
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,079
he puts no emphasis on Aris ever being anything truly

901
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:42,559
important other than just a science projects. I think that's

902
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,039
even if take out the emotional part. It's just if

903
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:47,159
he's trying to get out of there. If Dillinger gets

904
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:49,440
that code, he may never see anything again, and he

905
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,400
could be deleted for doing X, Y and Z. A

906
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,679
little different because even before the big turn happens and

907
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,480
Athena sells him out, you can't see him Piers kind

908
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,280
of getting okay, there's something going on with Air that

909
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,400
isn't quite right now, maybe you could argue, maybe you

910
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,559
could right then try and do some stuff. Because after

911
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:06,599
he's like, oh I I think he says he says

912
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:10,199
somebody saw that he felt empathy or showed empathy, and

913
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:11,760
he's like, I'm gonna rip that out of your program

914
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,920
and whatnot. So he already knew something was up, so

915
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,199
I think just because it was contentious between the two, Yeah, okay,

916
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:19,000
I can't trust this guy. Where even then again, if

917
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:21,000
you take the emotional stuff out, it's like, hey, gret

918
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,480
A Lee, you help me, and if I don't help you,

919
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,360
you're gonna die or you're gonna lose your code. So

920
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,280
it is like, uh, if you look at the probability

921
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,159
of who's gonna do like a computer sense eaves the

922
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:31,000
way to go right.

923
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 3: So, and I also feel like it was pretty clearly

924
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,639
shown how shoddy of a worksman Dyllinger was right because

925
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,079
obviously we got out of that showcase when he's showing

926
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,000
it off to these other like investors and stuff, and

927
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,400
then afterwards they're like, well you didn't tell them about

928
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,239
like the twenty nine minute limit thing. He's like, yeah,

929
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,800
well I didn't, you know, trying to make some sales here.

930
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,840
But that makes me wonder, like what other things he

931
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,960
was shortcutting in order to make like essentially this prototype

932
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,719
that he was showing off, right, and so like obviously

933
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,400
he even one of the things he talked about is like, Okay,

934
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,559
we have a don't worry guys, we have a sales

935
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:03,280
safe built in if things go awry. But it's like,

936
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,599
did he actually because clearly it doesn't seem like he

937
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:07,679
actually did, because that's another thing he lied about.

938
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

939
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: I think that's it, like we didn't explicitly get that information,

940
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,199
but I guess the fact that he wasn't able to

941
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,320
shut him down shows that that was another thing he

942
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,519
lied about in that presentation.

943
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely, that's a good observation. He and just

944
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,960
similar to fucking boy Caviar famliaires. So another reason why

945
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,719
I just hated that character.

946
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: The character's name is boy Caviar or is that a

947
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:29,599
nickname you guys?

948
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Caviar wha cat? It is boy wonder boy.

949
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: That's better than boy Caviar because that just sounds he's

950
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,639
many names of.

951
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Man of many names, boy genius, you know. But yeah,

952
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,239
but at least that was I don't at least he

953
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,719
had some actual he is doing the programmer with Boy Caviar.

954
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:51,119
We talked about like, okay, what is real once or not?

955
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:54,119
But he he he is a This guy is a

956
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,639
scientist or genius. He just hasn't cracked the code R

957
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,400
Because at the same point when the movie starts, great,

958
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:01,519
he's in the same position to him, right that she

959
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:03,119
can only do it for twenty mine and I meant

960
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,000
she does find it, and at the same time, she

961
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:07,119
finds it based off of someone else's work, right, So

962
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,199
it's not like she cracked the code when oh, I

963
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,719
figure out she found some old code off of Flint,

964
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,159
So I would assume if he also had the same

965
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,199
access to that, he probably could get there, right. I

966
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,079
think with that character just was kind of all over.

967
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,320
It was fun during that presentation. I know you guys

968
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,360
haven't seen in a while, but there was a Hannibal connection.

969
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:28,519
Catherine Isabelle was it. Yeah, she was one of the

970
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,920
buyers and Jillian Anderson is all seeing Hannibal, So I

971
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,320
was like, oh, man, someone's a fan.

972
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: Of Handle, so familiar, but I couldn't.

973
00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:37,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, she ends up being like she seems with a

974
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,000
lot of people in Hannibal. She ends up being an

975
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:42,280
endgame for some people. Go watch hashtags save Animal. But

976
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:44,280
I was told me she was in more but she wasn't.

977
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:47,320
But yeah, with Peters, it's I don't know what they

978
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,679
are doing with that character all over, man, because I

979
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,480
get what they're doing for the first act and a

980
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:55,000
half where he's just he's the bad guy and he's

981
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:57,039
gonna shoot Serieny and I'm kind of okay with that.

982
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,039
Once we get to the second act and he's kind

983
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:01,639
of questioning himself and he's listening to his mom and

984
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:03,320
then his mom gets stabbed and he's, oh, you stare

985
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,360
right here and he's kind of regretting some choices and

986
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,280
they're doing the whole like MOPI villain act and go, Okay,

987
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,639
I don't think in this two hour movie we have

988
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:13,840
time to have this redemption of Van Peters. And guess what,

989
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,360
we don't get it because he decides to go into

990
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,960
you know, the grid, and now you know that's the

991
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,599
the mid credit is he's getting all evil. So again,

992
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:23,679
at that point, I would rather him had just killed

993
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:25,679
his mom and been like you're not stopping, like, just

994
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,199
go go full for it. Just make him. Hey, he's

995
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,920
just gonna be a bad guy. He's gonna pa you

996
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,119
a piece of shit. So then when he gets to

997
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:34,320
the grid, it's like, oh man, this guy has access

998
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,079
to the grid. Where now it's like if they do

999
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,760
a Tron four, will he eventually be bad but could

1000
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,800
redeem himself or something like they just made it like

1001
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,440
they to me, I thought clear to like chose a

1002
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,760
clear line. Once they decide, hey, if we take this

1003
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,880
information from grete Lee Eve, she's gonna die. And once

1004
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,519
he said no matter what, do that command as Okay,

1005
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:55,480
this character's there's not a redemption path for this character, right,

1006
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:57,679
But I don't think they try to redeem him, but

1007
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,800
they try to make us feel something for him, and

1008
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:02,559
I think he was past that point. And I also

1009
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:04,679
don't think they wrote the character at any point to

1010
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,519
really be it'd be different too if he was at

1011
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,000
the movie started and he was like Eve, where he's

1012
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:12,880
also trying to find past twenty nine because he doesn't

1013
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,719
want to change the world for good stuff, right, and

1014
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,119
just his quest has showed him so mad that he's

1015
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,840
he's crazy and he can't get past and he's just egotistical.

1016
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:22,000
But it's not. He just wants to get there first

1017
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,719
so he can sell and make a bunch of money.

1018
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,000
So it could have been, it could have been something

1019
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:28,039
that's I mean, with just a few minor I think

1020
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:32,079
sentences and the choices and change like one scene here

1021
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:34,480
or there, you can make that character more clear. But

1022
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,760
they just felt like that feels like when a Tato's

1023
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,519
schat GPT like reviews when he's reading a character and

1024
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:43,320
then they suddenly do something like, well, why would they

1025
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,840
do that? We have a chuckle. That was Evan Peters's character,

1026
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,039
Like almost every act there's something going on, but you know,

1027
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:50,719
coolest to him. I like Evan Peters and he uh,

1028
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,880
he was he was chewing as much as he could.

1029
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,639
I like when he was just yelling at people and

1030
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:55,320
you know, so.

1031
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: I liked his like grid like tattoos that he had

1032
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,480
going on. One of the one of my favorite moments

1033
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,559
of the score, a little moment here is like it's

1034
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,119
him and his mom and they're having like a it's

1035
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,920
like emotional music, it's kind of swelling, and then she

1036
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,920
slaps him in the face and the music just cuts

1037
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,599
and I love that. I feel like that was such

1038
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:16,039
a great little moment of like, are we trying to

1039
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:18,239
build sympathy for this character. No, we're not actually trying

1040
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,519
to do that. We're just kind of playing with it.

1041
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:21,360
But yeah, it is a weird character in that, like

1042
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,639
he has a lot of screen time and he has

1043
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,039
a lot of dial He might have the most dialogue

1044
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:28,960
of any character because Aris doesn't talk that much. Greta

1045
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:31,000
is kind of more silent for a lot of this too.

1046
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:33,480
He might actually have like literally the most amount of

1047
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:35,119
words in the script. So the fact that it's not

1048
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:36,480
one of those things where were a lot of movies

1049
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:38,800
where it's like, ah, man, ten, we needed a couple

1050
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,480
more scenes, ten to fifty more minutes to flush this

1051
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:42,480
character out. That's not the case. I feel like they

1052
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:45,400
had the opportunity and they just didn't do it. And

1053
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,039
then I also wondered too if it was something to

1054
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:50,480
do with like a I mean, once again, they just

1055
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:51,719
have they have a lot of screen time, but he's

1056
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,559
only ever in two spots, right, He's like on that

1057
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:56,519
show floor or he's like in his office like either

1058
00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:58,400
typing or being cranky on the bed, And I don't know,

1059
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,440
maybe they need to move him around a little bit

1060
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,440
more or maybe like obviously then he has a mid

1061
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,880
credit like for a bit in the in the grid.

1062
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,559
Speaker 1: Technically that's a CGI room though that that could have

1063
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:09,320
been that they could have had that room right beside

1064
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,159
his office. You know, he could have walked to sentence

1065
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,039
centimeters over and now he's in the grid.

1066
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: You know, I guess that does kind of make sense

1067
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,800
for a recluse type character. Just you know, have him

1068
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,400
hold up in his office for most of the movie,

1069
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,840
But I don't know. I just feel like there was

1070
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,159
a lot of opportunity more with him, and they just

1071
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:24,559
didn't really seem to try try much because it's, yeah,

1072
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:29,159
none of his actions really make sense. We aren't really

1073
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,280
giving a reason to believe why he'd be ready to

1074
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,960
kill people and commit murder. Obviously, it makes sense why

1075
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,039
he'd want this thing, I guess, But even then, I

1076
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:37,480
don't know. Does he just want to make a lot

1077
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:39,760
of money? Like I don't actually know what his motivation is,

1078
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,480
does he you know, is he passionate about the grid

1079
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,320
to bring that to the reality. Does he just want

1080
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
the money that I don't Yeah, I don't know.

1081
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,679
Speaker 1: And even then and I'm I'm fine with it because

1082
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,159
of what we're doing. But again, if you wanted to

1083
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:54,920
make a stronger movie, they touch I feel like on

1084
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,360
it for two to three percent of the one hundred

1085
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,280
percent of this movie. The fact that he deploys real

1086
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,760
life Grid fighters into the real world I thought would

1087
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,440
be a much bigger revelation and moment for our planet Earth.

1088
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,320
But really the news just covers that as usual and

1089
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,400
that's about it. But they're they're leaving the grid lines.

1090
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,400
They're all over the place. They're killing literally killing cops.

1091
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,519
Like there's mu there are dozens of government officials, whether

1092
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:24,119
it's them or on the big ship fighters. Yeah, there's

1093
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:27,280
ms everywhere going on. So you wo'd feel like this

1094
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,719
would be to me if we saw was probably in

1095
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,000
our real life, it'd be crazy. And it's tough because

1096
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,199
I don't we don't know what the real life, no,

1097
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,519
like do they does anyone know at any point did

1098
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:37,559
Flynn go into machine and come out? So it's just

1099
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,920
they don't really care about answering any of that of

1100
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,079
what is the public knowing what we don't know? And

1101
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:43,719
that's where it's kind of weird because this is the

1102
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,440
biggest thing ever, but the world doesn't treat seeing any

1103
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,719
of this stuff like the biggest thing ever, right, But uh,

1104
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,880
I like to again visually all the like the coding,

1105
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,039
the materializing, like the three D printing of all the

1106
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:56,280
tron people in areas, people like that was all cool.

1107
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,880
That was fun. And every time someone's coming in, especially

1108
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,320
to when Athena's over and he's just getting a lot

1109
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,000
of this big things like what's going on? You see

1110
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,280
the design, it's like that's too big. And you know,

1111
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,800
I get again to your point, Kirking, when you're talking

1112
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,079
about aries. She kind of has that too, where she

1113
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:12,079
kind of flips very easy, right, it seems like she's

1114
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:15,679
in facty with aries. And then he discommands one like

1115
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,000
thing and then okay, I'm turning on him and I'm

1116
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,199
I'm master control. Right.

1117
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 6: That one I had no problem with though, because like

1118
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,039
she is she like she's doing what she's programmed to do, right,

1119
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:29,440
Like she's actually a loyal program to fucking.

1120
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: She doesn't have those extra lines of code that made it. Yeah,

1121
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,480
I guess so, yeah, and like well they don't really

1122
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:36,760
explain that. Yeah, you know, we just kind of have

1123
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,719
to believe it. I think she's the number two. It

1124
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,679
makes sense that she doesn't have as much work put

1125
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,039
into her.

1126
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then that's where I pushed back, because when

1127
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,199
she was feeling the water, she's getting all those feelings

1128
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,199
and they ignore it right away. They do nothing with

1129
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,039
that scene of her like she did.

1130
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 6: Like she's like having like an existential like yeah, like

1131
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,400
she's about to shoot and then she runs out of time.

1132
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: She is she Yeah, But to me, that water was

1133
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,039
her because day because he talked to her about the

1134
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:02,840
rain and that was a big mope for him. And

1135
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,440
when she felt that water and the score, they're making

1136
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,960
it feel like, oh, she's waking up too, She's feeling something.

1137
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,800
But now then after she a transformer.

1138
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:12,679
Speaker 4: I think it was defining just the difference between her

1139
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,039
and Aris where she she was taken aback for a second,

1140
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,320
but ultimately she was still gonna squeeze that trigger. Like

1141
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,159
it didn't she was didn't change her her choice, like

1142
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,920
she didn't choose to be different, like aries was right.

1143
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: I guess. But then it's just tough when you guys

1144
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,639
tell me that she is like so motivated to her

1145
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:30,760
goal and it's gonna go no matter what. But then

1146
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,960
it's like, well this I'm experiencing.

1147
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: I's like a flashban grenade went off.

1148
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: She's like, what the fuck is.

1149
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,599
Speaker 2: Going on right now?

1150
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 6: Because she's feeling things she's never felt before. It's like

1151
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,320
feeling wind for the first time. You've never like what

1152
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,679
is happening right now? Like That's how I took it

1153
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:44,360
more so than like.

1154
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:53,119
Speaker 1: Life, I just want to like a little longer. I

1155
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:55,360
just felt like with that and her last speech with Letto,

1156
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,960
they were trying to do the same thing as Peter's

1157
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,280
are giving her something. You should feel this characters going

1158
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,280
on so in here, that's where to me, that's where

1159
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,519
I took it as like, oh, they're trying to draw

1160
00:50:05,559 --> 00:50:07,400
a line here, but we were taking a bunch of

1161
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,519
circles to get there.

1162
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 6: So then the fucking yeah that like when he's holding

1163
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,519
her in her arms at the end and I'm just like,

1164
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:14,679
what the fuck are we doing here?

1165
00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: People like this is so unnecessary. Just let her crumble

1166
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:19,880
and just be programmed. They I don't know.

1167
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 6: I was gonna say the human eyes like that character

1168
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,039
too much, but like I maybe maybe that's the right thing.

1169
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1170
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: I just I just hated that there.

1171
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,519
Speaker 6: Was I didn't mind Jared little at all in the

1172
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,000
majority of this film, but there were certain scenes, especially

1173
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,480
at the end, when he's like it just looks like

1174
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:37,519
he's wearing his regular clothes and.

1175
00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: Just just so fucking goofy on.

1176
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: It was like a fucking cologne commercial or something.

1177
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: I was just his choice, that was actress.

1178
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: It was just giggling because it just seems people.

1179
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: Want to find me and I'm trying to find the world,

1180
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,840
and this whole narration going on and oh that's going on.

1181
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,079
Speaker 6: I feel like there's a version of this movie where

1182
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,000
like I just can't get past that, and anytimes on screen,

1183
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,679
I'm just I'm just laughing. So that's where, like, you know,

1184
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,079
I said a couple of times now, but like I

1185
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:05,960
was just fooled because I'm like, man, he's actually just

1186
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,079
a character that I'm that I'm following now, Like I'm

1187
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:12,519
totally fine with this, like you shout out the possibly

1188
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,920
my favorite sceneing the entire movie is is when he's

1189
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,280
on the light bike like with her and they're going

1190
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,280
through the water and she's like feeling like it's just

1191
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,119
so like music is just fucking popping off. The visuals

1192
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:25,559
are insane in the sequence. In the back of my mind,

1193
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:27,239
I'm like, I couldn't imagine watching this in three D.

1194
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,039
I'd like I would be thrown up right now. This

1195
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:30,480
is this would be too much in three D. But

1196
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:34,000
like just two D fantastic, look gorgeous. And then he

1197
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:36,199
does this like one jump up in the air. It's

1198
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,280
just like a slow moo on Jared Leto and I

1199
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,199
just kind of giggled because I'm like, man, this is

1200
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,559
just there's something about Jared Letto I just can't get

1201
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:44,880
past even though he's good in this in this.

1202
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: Movie, he's got an extremely punishable face, you know. Yeah,

1203
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,800
I mean I obviously had such low expectations for him

1204
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,000
going into this, and that's why I think I was surprised.

1205
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,400
But don't get me wrong. I mean, I'm not pitching

1206
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,440
him for Golden Geeks. He wasn't at that tear by

1207
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,800
any means. But I think the interesting dynamic I liked

1208
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,840
in this movie is that, you know, Greta Lee is

1209
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,960
the protagonist, and you know, most of the emotional content

1210
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:09,760
is kind of formed around her character as relationship had

1211
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,000
with her sister and what that means for her in

1212
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,880
this business that she's maybe you know, not into right

1213
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,280
now all these kind of thoughts. But she's not really

1214
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,320
explicitly talking about these things herself. It's more that we're

1215
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,880
seeing them through, like one through that scene of Aris

1216
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,239
who's kind of like downloading all this data on her,

1217
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:29,039
or even like her her friend, her buddy, who are

1218
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:31,159
kind of like asking her things or bringing these things up.

1219
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,840
And that's why I think like her acting is so

1220
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,559
good because it's not like she's having these big emotional

1221
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:37,280
scenes talking about how much she loved her sister. She

1222
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,880
does say that a couple times, but it's more so

1223
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,000
like other characters pitching these things at her of like, hey,

1224
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:43,679
how do you feel about this thing? And just like her,

1225
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,400
the way she's reacting to it is really great. And

1226
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,880
so that's where I think the dynamic between her and

1227
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,000
Jared Leto did work for me, Like he kind of

1228
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,039
just sets up her to be emotional in good ways

1229
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:56,480
and then she just delivers because she she's so good.

1230
00:52:56,559 --> 00:53:00,199
So yeah, I like that dynamic and that the friend

1231
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,719
Seth was his name, like the her buddy there comic

1232
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,800
relief guy. You know, none of none of his jokes

1233
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,519
were having me slap my knees or fall to my

1234
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:09,320
chair or anything, but I liked them, you know, a

1235
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,199
good little awkward kind of humor. Goofy guy added a

1236
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:13,840
little bit of levity because no one else is really

1237
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,519
making jokes other than aries, who was like intentionally telling

1238
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:18,480
bad jokes because he's like telling his first jokes he's

1239
00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:21,159
ever told. Right, Uh, So I like that character though,

1240
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,920
he worked well, and like the way both of them

1241
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,760
kind of emphasized Greta. I think was really highlight, big

1242
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,719
highlight of the film for me.

1243
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: And he wasn't in there too much. We didn't have

1244
00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:31,840
some terrible thing where he also went in a grid

1245
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,039
and he's like, well look at it, like I like you, yeah,

1246
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:35,679
right about it.

1247
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: I thought he broke his back when he got launched

1248
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,679
into the pinball machine, but he dies, he was fine.

1249
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: I thought he died the way he thought. Yeah, seth.

1250
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,400
For me, I'm gonna give one big Emma Frost.

1251
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 6: It did not work for me, dirty dog. Every line

1252
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,000
just didn't work. The one highlight is when he's in

1253
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:52,719
the when they're in like the North and they're doing

1254
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,239
their test. I have that exact same Patagonia sweater that

1255
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,639
he was wearing, so that was kind of cool. There

1256
00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:00,360
you go, Patagonia sweater of that.

1257
00:54:01,159 --> 00:54:04,519
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the best you can say about him, sad.

1258
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 6: I just it didn't work for me, Like his humor

1259
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,119
and none of it works. I'm trying to think of

1260
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:13,039
a positive to say for him. When they when oh,

1261
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,239
when they shoot Jared Leto with the laser, when he's

1262
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,239
like this scene had me cracking up. Actually he throws

1263
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,480
the rooms cube that of course he solved. It's like,

1264
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:25,719
this definitely is the line, but it's almost like sometimes

1265
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,760
we've got to make our own luck.

1266
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: And he like turns around and just fucking runs to

1267
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,880
the window and I.

1268
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:36,679
Speaker 1: Said, changing plans. Oh, it's as bad charismatically as ever changing.

1269
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 6: And then they zap him and then he says something like,

1270
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,880
oh that works like that. That was the one moment

1271
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,239
where I think I was a little I think I

1272
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,320
was most so just the whole scene was was making

1273
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:45,880
me crack up.

1274
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,599
Speaker 2: So Seth was just the little cherry on top?

1275
00:54:48,159 --> 00:55:00,199
Speaker 1: Was this the scene you're talking about him to this

1276
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,639
scene again? Like this is like what and honestly this

1277
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:05,360
is a camerap so but in real clear like all

1278
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,840
the stuff that's yeah, look at all these times back

1279
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,280
then everything. Yeah, I wonder what steelcase I got going

1280
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:14,840
on for this.

1281
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: The parallel between him being fascinated by rain and her

1282
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,719
being fascinated by just like the texture of water in

1283
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,960
the grid. I think it's a really great like connection

1284
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:24,000
pointing the characters.

1285
00:55:24,639 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just it's just a foot.

1286
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, they weren't slipping the waters slipping

1287
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:31,719
the water back like the first troll.

1288
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was red though, So I don't know if

1289
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:38,320
the weird this is weird tr this is weird. Aries

1290
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:41,039
just battle tested water. It's not like the other grids.

1291
00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:42,840
I don't know how this water has been going on,

1292
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,440
but that's it's just something that dawned on me because Yeah,

1293
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,679
I did not love I think let all his aria

1294
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,960
is fine because I feel like he has like a

1295
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,119
certain scope about Like I said, the humor didn't work,

1296
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:53,639
the jokes didn't work, and just him trying to like

1297
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:56,840
connect with grete Y just something was not working for me.

1298
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,760
We needed someone else, and that to me is this

1299
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,599
is not just a little thing, right because we talked

1300
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:03,360
about Dylan. You've never seen this movie, but they tried

1301
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,960
the same thing and Tabor and Kirk will will remember

1302
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,199
in Black and with The Rock, Remember he did the

1303
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,119
whole like you're the Man of Black, Like I'm the

1304
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:12,079
Man in Black? Who kis Like they did that and

1305
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:15,880
it's just it's very tough and I feel like, no, no.

1306
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,159
The Rock is a similar thing where he's like very

1307
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,480
robotic humor that they pare him off with a kid

1308
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,159
and it's very like the template is Terminator too. That's

1309
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:25,559
the first time it's really ever been done where Arnold's

1310
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:27,519
a robot. The whole movie, he's with a kid, and

1311
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:29,400
he's learning from the kid, and he's making jokes like

1312
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,760
as love he's stuff like that's where all that stuff

1313
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,880
comes from. And the only other time I've seen someone

1314
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,360
pull that off successfully again is when Fastpenner did David.

1315
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,480
And there's not even that much humor in Prometheus, but

1316
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:41,760
the few times he's funny, it isn't that's I mean,

1317
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,599
it's that's just like a hard thing to do and

1318
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:45,559
it just didn't work for me here and just the

1319
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:48,599
other thing, it's so funny. I thought about this retro

1320
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:50,960
and these reviews where you get Jeff Bridges, who obviously

1321
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,960
it's different in Tromp, but still Jeff Bridges, very personal guy,

1322
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:58,760
very charismatic guy, to the lead of Legacy, and this

1323
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,280
it's such like a why have they not been? Like

1324
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,440
we should get another like not our Jeff Bridges, but

1325
00:57:04,519 --> 00:57:06,119
we should get some of a lot of personality and

1326
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,000
put them in this movie. Because we talked about Garrett

1327
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,360
Headline and Jared Lettle is different because he's a program,

1328
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,199
but still the lead is a blank slate kind of

1329
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,199
video game almost main character right that you're you can

1330
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:18,559
put more of yourself into. So it's just funny the

1331
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:21,679
franchise where usually it's like, oh, they started with this

1332
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:23,639
type of star, so we have defines. It's like anytime

1333
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:25,360
we hear about Pirates remake, right, it's like, well, we

1334
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,280
gotta find someone. It's like Johnny Depp equivalent. It's just

1335
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,599
like they've never had that idea with Tron. It's like, well,

1336
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:33,800
let's just get some basic standard white guy who's going

1337
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,800
to deliver in the lines, like very plainly. So yeah,

1338
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,599
I thought I thought Little wasn't awful. I've obviously seen

1339
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:41,519
him better. But I'm like, I don't know, I don't

1340
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,079
if we get a fourth I really don't want Areas

1341
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:47,800
to be the guy we uh we fall. I don't

1342
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,800
know what they would do with that. But yeah, he was.

1343
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,440
He was finding, but definitely a weak point out of

1344
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,199
all the cast with Peters and Jody Comber Smith and

1345
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,880
who I'm hoping is Storm That's my pick. I really

1346
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,800
want her to be Storm in then Greta Lee. So

1347
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:01,880
I really liked her.

1348
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,639
Speaker 6: I thought she was fantastic, like like there's not a

1349
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:07,000
lot of meat on the bones for like like fleshing

1350
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:08,960
out the carrot, but like just to be that role

1351
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:12,079
of like the termament, like she induced fear.

1352
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: She is just yeah, she's arnold from one.

1353
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,039
Speaker 6: She's just you know, wipes out on the bike and

1354
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:18,440
she's like trying to get it picked and you just.

1355
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: Hear like I love heavy nervous. Yeah, you know, she

1356
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,440
she's great. If anyone hasn't seen, she's done a lot

1357
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,840
of stuff. She she wasn't the Acolyte, which was not

1358
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:32,719
a great time, but a show I will recommend that

1359
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,599
came out last year. Next time, you guys have Paramount

1360
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,400
the Agency with her. And finally just said Michael Fastbanner,

1361
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,199
that's his spy show and she's a female lead, really

1362
00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:42,840
good show. So yeah, she's really talented. I'm pulling for

1363
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,599
her to be Storm. I don't know, but hey, this

1364
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:47,960
is Disney movie, so maybe you'll see this good. And

1365
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,480
then I think Jared Lettle's getting the call for Magnito

1366
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:59,519
or something be the beast to see in that time, yeah,

1367
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,800
or gender flip dazzler and make him do that and

1368
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,320
let him sing, you know, and he's.

1369
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: Done enough marvel in his day. We can leave him leave.

1370
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: No.

1371
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: I think she does a good job considering that, like

1372
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:13,000
she is the more like stereotypical program of like you

1373
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:16,159
have no emotion. Your eyes are always looking dead. You

1374
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:19,440
have no emotion whatsoever. Like the eye makeup that gave her,

1375
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,039
like just the eye if you'd called eyeshadow, it's like

1376
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:24,400
the under eye shadow whatever. I thought that was really good.

1377
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,239
But yeah, she she did a good job good intimidating

1378
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:29,400
the kind of heavy of this, you know, I guess

1379
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:30,960
you would call her, And I think she did a

1380
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,679
good job of that, considering that Evan Peters certainly wasn't

1381
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:36,880
feeling that that need for this movie.

1382
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: Are there any thoughts on Athena or anything, any last

1383
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,039
notes on Letto? Yeah?

1384
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:46,559
Speaker 4: Again, I I like how she was consistently just mission

1385
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,519
oriented and then when she kind of got that upgrade

1386
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:53,599
to master control by Evan Peters, just she was just

1387
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,159
full on in in the zone. And yeah, when she

1388
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,559
kills his mom, it's like, holy fuck, that's it's crazy

1389
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:02,920
because it was just you you see it with with

1390
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,559
Peter's character with Dillinger, when you see like the mom

1391
01:00:06,679 --> 01:00:08,559
is totally oblivious to what's going on. It's just like,

1392
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:13,159
I'm putting us off to this, and then I won't oblivious.

1393
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:13,599
Speaker 1: She was.

1394
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 4: She was walking through the control penalty and Athena was

1395
01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:19,719
just walking right there to just like shift her.

1396
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:22,519
Speaker 1: In this even the whole movie. I'm like literally when

1397
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:25,519
he's like, hey, don't do this, this is wrong.

1398
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 4: Just like those forty seconds up to her death, she's

1399
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,440
going to push her button and shut down their their grid.

1400
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,920
But as far as Athena goes, I when she takes

1401
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,719
control and she's just reiterating like, hey, like you program

1402
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,719
me to do this and execute this by any means necessary,

1403
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,480
I'm going to do this. And I really like that

1404
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:47,360
side of the story here, when she takes control and

1405
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,239
when things just start coming out and no fucking control.

1406
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,440
You know, they could have turned this ship off or

1407
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,559
at least unpluged the lasers. Unplugged for sure, but they

1408
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:02,519
didn't uplug the lasers. Now like he as comes out

1409
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:03,800
of the system, I don't know, just like.

1410
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,239
Speaker 1: Into a wall low you just like it's a power brick.

1411
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,199
They could do something.

1412
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: They could do something. When Aries comes out the first time,

1413
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,880
and then Peter's character is like, what.

1414
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: Are you doing?

1415
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,239
Speaker 4: This is right, Well you're not gonna get resurrected after this,

1416
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:18,320
and then he like Aries goes, Then Athenex is someone

1417
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,440
to hunt him down, and then Athena dies. Then all

1418
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,159
of a sudden, the machines turn on. Athena is like

1419
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:23,960
booting up and he's like, oh.

1420
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: My god, what are you doing?

1421
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,039
Speaker 4: And it's this the whole fucking tron fleet, our grid

1422
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,159
fleet coming out of here, Like it's just it fucking

1423
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:33,159
cracks me up to just leave the power on. So

1424
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,360
like the AI.

1425
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:36,639
Speaker 1: Ship's just producing herself now.

1426
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 4: Like that's a big fucking problem.

1427
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,719
Speaker 3: But I was the safety, the fail safs, they were

1428
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,440
not in place for this facility.

1429
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: He was, you know, as he told he can't stop anything.

1430
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,400
This thing kills his mother in front of him and

1431
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,039
he just lays on the ground crying. It's like he's it.

1432
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: Looked like she was trying to shut it off, and

1433
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,760
like the shut off.

1434
01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:57,039
Speaker 6: Button is in like the most dangerous It's like right

1435
01:01:57,079 --> 01:01:59,840
in the middle of all these fucking lasers. Like why

1436
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,159
not have it in a probably multiple locations. You have

1437
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:04,800
a little east stop that you can hit in case

1438
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,480
somewhere you see, in case a lackey gets tied on

1439
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:11,239
one of the lasers. But yeah, terribly terribly, terribly engineered.

1440
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that stuff where just again where

1441
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:15,360
to me feels like first draft, Like this feels cool.

1442
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,000
The same thing. Like, don't get me wrong, this is

1443
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,239
where you gotta you know, in a sense, turn your

1444
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:21,960
brain off, just enjoy those visuals. When Athena comes out

1445
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,599
with her fucking gun dam transformers, massive flying ships, like yeah,

1446
01:02:26,639 --> 01:02:29,760
this is awesome. Really doesn't make any sense though, because

1447
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,239
she was seconds away from killing Greta Lee with just

1448
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:34,960
her like gargyle flying thing. You would think you would

1449
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,639
just come back, recreate that and go get her again.

1450
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:40,400
No one really stopped her. She moved fast. This machine

1451
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,599
that Athena has is I could outwalk it. It is

1452
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:45,719
moving so slow. And this is what.

1453
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guys are looking out the window, they're like, hey,

1454
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:51,880
do you see that thing? And then there's like ten

1455
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,519
minutes past, and then we're like okay, now they're getting closed.

1456
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:58,719
Speaker 1: And I would I would buy for some reason if like,

1457
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,599
oh she's unlimited, now she's a locked game over, but

1458
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:04,079
she's only got twenty nine minutes. Just get that jetpack

1459
01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:07,320
thing again. You were the only reason rain distracted you

1460
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,840
and then you got zapped. No one stopped you. They

1461
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,039
didn't kill you. You literally looked away for a second

1462
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:14,840
and then like, so get that backpack back on, go

1463
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,000
get her. When Gretna's running through the streets and she's

1464
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,480
like up there sending all the stuff that keeps missing,

1465
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,679
jump out and get her run at her. So that's

1466
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:22,199
where it's just.

1467
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 4: Like I think cool, right, And again, if she took

1468
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,760
the jet pack. If she took the jet pack, the

1469
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,599
jet would have blew her out of the sky. Like

1470
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:30,320
it wouldn't have worked.

1471
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,079
Speaker 1: You, No, the jets showed up because the huge thing

1472
01:03:32,119 --> 01:03:34,960
there this whole movie, there's no cops other than on

1473
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,360
the road when it's like, oh man, he's speeding, let's

1474
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:40,119
turn the thing. There's no government until the big UFO

1475
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,119
machine gets there. So if she's just on her, if

1476
01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:46,119
she's just on foot going to Eve, she's gonna get her.

1477
01:03:46,119 --> 01:03:48,079
So it just felt like a let's be cool and

1478
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:50,119
have like a massive machine here. Same thing as like

1479
01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:53,239
every that's whet of the script thing literally every time

1480
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,039
these characters kind of the portal and I get it.

1481
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,480
But the end goal of the scene is you have

1482
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:01,000
to get Eve. Whether it's a good guys or bad guys.

1483
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:03,320
When they're on the bikes, when Jared Lettle comes out

1484
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,119
as a good guy, when Athena comes out for the

1485
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:07,000
first second time, and then when she comes out the

1486
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,559
third time, all four action scenes are all we gotta

1487
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:11,800
get her, we got it. So everything it's like.

1488
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: When but when that thing is Greta Lee, it's like, Okay,

1489
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:15,199
I'm fun, fun.

1490
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: I get it. But it's just like when at the end,

1491
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,960
when she's just like running the stereoell make her face look,

1492
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,920
it's like the whole movie has been Greta stops to

1493
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,239
get some exposition and then runs and it's just again,

1494
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,239
it just would.

1495
01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 4: You know, I'd attributed to the fact that she did

1496
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,320
the jet pack, she brought her late laser gun and

1497
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,519
that failed, and so I don't think, like, why do

1498
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:33,719
the same thing again. So she's like, okay, I but she.

1499
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: Only failed because she was dishracked. If they didn't outsmart

1500
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,800
her or anything, they didn't scooby do her. She literally

1501
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,400
was within seconds of getting her.

1502
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, But for whatever reason, that's just the program couldn't

1503
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,039
couldn't come to terms with that. I need more, I

1504
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:49,320
need more firepower.

1505
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess, you know, I don't know one

1506
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,960
thing that I don't even know how to think about it.

1507
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,559
But like the whenever these Areas or Athena would get

1508
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:02,039
de right from the real world, they would have like

1509
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:05,719
just the most intense death rattle. But it's like they

1510
01:05:05,719 --> 01:05:08,000
don't have pain, right, Like I don't I don't know

1511
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:10,400
exactly where the scream is coming from, but it was

1512
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,039
like visceral. And it kind of shocked me that it

1513
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:14,519
happened every time except for you to what she's finally

1514
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:17,519
given up at the end. But every other time, Yeah,

1515
01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:19,119
it's it is like just.

1516
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:23,519
Speaker 1: They're like this guy every single time. Yeah Jones, Yeah,

1517
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:26,320
I guess it's just maybe you feel something getting pulled

1518
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,000
from one vortex to the other. I guess you have to.

1519
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:34,239
Speaker 6: I don't know, you do feel, though, right, because otherwise

1520
01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:36,679
they wouldn't be feeling in the water feeling.

1521
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: That's true. They have some sort well, and we talked

1522
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,079
about that too, right with the legacy, it makes no sense.

1523
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:44,719
We still never answered how does Jared Leto, how does

1524
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,480
Quora when they get made into people, what's going on

1525
01:05:47,519 --> 01:05:49,840
with their bodies? Like, what's going on? They got organs

1526
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:55,480
all the sudden, like same thing Jared Leto's yeah, he's.

1527
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: Voters don't go away.

1528
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,679
Speaker 1: But that's that's I mean, like they they never care

1529
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,679
to explain those intimacies of feeling and human, which I

1530
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,360
kind of I guess they kind of lamp shaded it

1531
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,079
when he was talking with Bridges, and I didn't mind

1532
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:11,840
the scene. He's like, oh, well, why is you know

1533
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,440
deep bush mode better. It's like, well, it's just a feeling.

1534
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,679
And I feel like that's sometimes just Tron where it's

1535
01:06:16,719 --> 01:06:19,440
like why is it? Like that just is you know,

1536
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,199
and like okay, cool, we'll keep going.

1537
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,679
Speaker 3: So pewters are complicated.

1538
01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:25,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely had that realization in this movie when

1539
01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:29,119
it was like, okay, plot's very basic whatever, that's just

1540
01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:29,800
that's just Tron.

1541
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,679
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. And yeah, I had

1542
01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:32,280
like a like.

1543
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 6: A third pillar of negativity, but it kind of crumbled

1544
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,440
and fell down and it wasn't as bothersome to me.

1545
01:06:37,519 --> 01:06:39,920
But that pillar was what you pointed out, Travis, with

1546
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:43,639
just the lack of like government interaction or like military

1547
01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:45,760
interaction or like police intert like.

1548
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:48,119
Speaker 2: This seems like the day of the Earth.

1549
01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:52,039
Speaker 6: This is a level bit like just light bikes going around,

1550
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:55,679
let alone intercept or what's it called the infiltrator showing

1551
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:59,079
up with the city. Would that just go around and

1552
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:01,679
it's like they actually have like a laser beam path

1553
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,639
that I imagine it is like just chopping up anything

1554
01:07:05,679 --> 01:07:06,519
that kind of goes through it.

1555
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:07,199
Speaker 2: So it just.

1556
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:12,639
Speaker 6: Seemed that level. They showed like one police helicopter.

1557
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, there's the fighter jets, and the

1558
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,639
fighter jets get absolutely de true true, too true, and

1559
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,360
like yeah, but how many more do you send in

1560
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,679
if they did nothing and just got instant killed?

1561
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: Right, But so like I guess that's I guess that's

1562
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,159
my only thing is like, let's say if right now,

1563
01:07:28,199 --> 01:07:29,719
this happens right and we don't know if it's aliens,

1564
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,199
whatever it comes down, I just would hope the government

1565
01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:34,519
would be like, let's just they would not say let's

1566
01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:36,000
just send to and see what happens. Like I feel

1567
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,639
like I'd be like, send as many as we got,

1568
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:39,159
and then when that goes away, then it's like the

1569
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:42,079
reinforcements other countries you might say, hey, hold off, but

1570
01:07:42,239 --> 01:07:44,639
just sending two and just getting bobbed. And I think

1571
01:07:44,679 --> 01:07:46,599
it's just like what Kirk was saying from the very beginning,

1572
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,920
those until everything dissolves, those lighte right things are there

1573
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,559
for twenty minutes, and I just feel like this is

1574
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:57,199
a that city should be crawling with every sort of

1575
01:07:57,239 --> 01:07:59,679
intelligence going on right now, and they keep popping up.

1576
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,519
It's not like they pop up once and then it's

1577
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:04,199
been months later. Leto and Athena keep going in and

1578
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:06,519
out of this world. There's the glider. So it's just

1579
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,119
it just feels so small scale. It feels like episode

1580
01:08:11,159 --> 01:08:13,519
like the like episode one or two in the series

1581
01:08:13,519 --> 01:08:15,960
and Stranger Things, but we're really at the finale of

1582
01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:19,039
Stranger Things where it's like, man, shit is bad right now.

1583
01:08:19,079 --> 01:08:21,319
But again, has this happened before? And Tron do these

1584
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,239
people pop up all the time? Maybe maybe that's it.

1585
01:08:23,239 --> 01:08:25,520
Maybe it's like a fuck, these guys are back again,

1586
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,920
these these biker people. I don't know what was Core doing,

1587
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:28,359
you know.

1588
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 6: And like last thing I'll mention on that is like

1589
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,239
even just the logistics of like you have these fighter

1590
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:37,479
pilots like literally bombing this thing in the middle of

1591
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,319
a residential city like that just seems so terrible.

1592
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like the.

1593
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 6: One fighter like suicide bombs into it essentially, and like

1594
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:50,880
I imagine that just killed like fifteen people minimum, Like

1595
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,039
like there's there's people in this It's not like they're

1596
01:08:53,079 --> 01:08:57,199
evacuing the city. Like the infiltrator hits a building I

1597
01:08:57,199 --> 01:08:59,399
imagine that killed like a thousand people that were just

1598
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,319
never even gonna like talk like it just felt like

1599
01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:04,439
it was a Godzilla video game at this point, and

1600
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,960
like whatever, just danger close, casualties.

1601
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: Are gonna happen, citizens are going down.

1602
01:09:11,239 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 6: I guess Avengers kind of has that too, DC with

1603
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,600
Superman like crumbling cities and casualties we don't necessarily focus on.

1604
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,560
But yeah, that that that was like a hold back

1605
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,600
that I had. But by the end of the movie,

1606
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,479
I was just like, whatever, sorry. By the by the

1607
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,640
third act, I was like, this is just this is

1608
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,960
just the way the game's played. I'm just gonna accept

1609
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,840
these rules and go forward with it. Because nine Inch

1610
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,479
Nails is blasting the visuals look gorgeous.

1611
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm in for this discuss.

1612
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,239
Speaker 3: I swear Taylor had something.

1613
01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 4: Oh no that that died a long time ago.

1614
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 3: So okay, twenty nine minutes have passed and.

1615
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 4: We'll die off of I'm gonna I'm gonna highlight though.

1616
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,319
One thing I really liked where we got to see

1617
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,079
and go into like the grid multiple times with Dillinger's

1618
01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:02,000
grade especially. But but I really wasn't expecting to kind

1619
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,920
of get Ncom's grid, and I wish that we got

1620
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,800
a little bit more of that because when they were

1621
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,560
doing their raid and we got to see just all

1622
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,560
these ncom like programs come into play here and it's

1623
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,640
just a really cool like fight sequence that was neat.

1624
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,760
But then getting the OG grid from Flynn's computer was

1625
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,399
really sweet and I like that. And the way I

1626
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,399
kind of take this is that, yes, everything was eliminated

1627
01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:27,800
in that I was per Tron legacy, but for whatever reason,

1628
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,920
he still remained and it just looked like he just

1629
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,760
built back because there were no other programs in there.

1630
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,600
So it just seems like he just built back this

1631
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:38,800
basic main frame of what it was. And that's just.

1632
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that same busted wall was there from the

1633
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,880
light bike sequence in the OG, so I still think it, like,

1634
01:10:45,079 --> 01:10:46,880
you know, much of it remained, maybe just all the

1635
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,159
programs died, but like the actual framework for it is

1636
01:10:50,199 --> 01:10:52,600
still there. But man, like another big showed at the

1637
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,399
soundtrack there of like a note those moments, like the

1638
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,880
amount of things occurring in like with the instruments and stuff,

1639
01:10:59,039 --> 01:11:01,920
it dies down big time, Like it's way less complicated music.

1640
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,840
It's almost like lullaby esque h and just you know

1641
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,520
of course has like the eighties vibes to it, but

1642
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,920
I just love how it was like much simpler music

1643
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:14,079
like every perfect but uh yeah, I mean that sequence

1644
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:16,560
was it was fun like that. My theater definitely popped

1645
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,960
off when we went to that sequence. I like that

1646
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,319
they even had like the weird kind of gray faces

1647
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:23,680
that they had like from the og Ones too. But

1648
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,079
I think, you know kind of what Travis was alluding to,

1649
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:30,319
like just the the chemistry between Leto and Bridges was

1650
01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:34,560
not outstanding unfortunately, So I think that scene was it

1651
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,560
was cool for the visuals for like the nostalgia hit

1652
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,680
of it, I guess, but it wasn't outstanding. I suppose

1653
01:11:40,119 --> 01:11:42,600
I was kind of confused by Bridges where he was like,

1654
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:48,479
I'm a reflection. I only exist. You exist. Can you

1655
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:49,920
guys explain that to me at all? Like did that

1656
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,479
make more any more sense to you?

1657
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: Like?

1658
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 3: Is he always there?

1659
01:11:53,039 --> 01:11:53,079
Speaker 2: Like?

1660
01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 3: Is he's only there when someone else is there? It's

1661
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,239
like a if a tree falls in the woods, is

1662
01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:57,439
that what we're going for there?

1663
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: I think he is just some sort of programmed which

1664
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,680
it doesn't make sense because he's aged. He shouldn't age,

1665
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,840
Like I don't feel like this.

1666
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,239
Speaker 6: Is the same for this over like a CGI like

1667
01:12:09,399 --> 01:12:11,960
d aging Jeff Bridges of the scene, even though.

1668
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: His d aging looked good in this one, though they

1669
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,479
did it again when he was on the T.

1670
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't. I know, it didn't on the TV.

1671
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: It didn't look good.

1672
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: Good better than he looks fine. I'm not gonna say

1673
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:23,560
look good.

1674
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: On the TV. I'm trying to think when, when does

1675
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:26,279
that happen?

1676
01:12:26,359 --> 01:12:28,279
Speaker 2: And what are you talking about?

1677
01:12:28,359 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 1: Man?

1678
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,199
Speaker 2: That's you cre this is your CGI that you're like,

1679
01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:34,239
he looks great.

1680
01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:37,520
Speaker 1: No, you're smoking someone else. At the beginning of the movie,

1681
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,359
when they're showing everything that's gone down, and just like

1682
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:41,960
I said in Legacy, we're like, oh, I wonder they're

1683
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,279
going to talk about Sam Flinn or whatever his name was.

1684
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,319
But it's Sam, right, I think, so what a name?

1685
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:50,880
Sam Flinn? I just don't like saying it literally just

1686
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,840
in the credits and is like, yeah, he uh, he

1687
01:12:53,119 --> 01:12:55,039
sold the company for personal reasons and that was it.

1688
01:12:55,079 --> 01:12:56,880
And then then the next article is he was missing,

1689
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,720
and that's all you get out. It's exactly what I

1690
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,279
thought they do. But there's scene where he they're showing

1691
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:04,520
a clip of him talking about the future to and

1692
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,319
that looked way better than Tron Legacy Kirkland. I think

1693
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:12,399
you think you're busy talking, You're busy like making more

1694
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,199
pizza bets with Tyler or something, because there you're smoking.

1695
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:20,439
There's no that looked fantastic, like awful, No, no way,

1696
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,520
he didn't look robbery. I feel like I can win

1697
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,279
on this one because some people doubt me about the

1698
01:13:25,319 --> 01:13:28,439
fucking f four baby and then when they went back like, oh, yeah,

1699
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,720
what happened there? But no, I think it's just Travis.

1700
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 3: That was a real baby.

1701
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: You didn't know, Yeah, all the time, it was a

1702
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,359
whole real baby, says Vanessa Kurubah. Yeah, I think it's

1703
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,880
just a program because again it doesn't make sense why

1704
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,600
he would age or and they didn't explain at all

1705
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,079
would happen after from Legacy to now to him why

1706
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:48,279
he's hanging out there? They said if he formed with

1707
01:13:48,319 --> 01:13:50,119
the other Flint he would die, and here he is,

1708
01:13:50,199 --> 01:13:53,279
so I'm just taking his like he's just like a

1709
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,159
he's a piece of code now and yeah, he just

1710
01:13:56,199 --> 01:13:59,560
like if no one appears there, he's just like coding around,

1711
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,199
flying around when someone appears there. And he gave it

1712
01:14:02,199 --> 01:14:04,399
this pretty easily too. Was it wasn't too hard to

1713
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,600
get what you wanted from him. You know, he went

1714
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,159
him over. You know, that was the time very quickly though,

1715
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,000
you know, I.

1716
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:16,159
Speaker 6: Took it like he's just like the program is just

1717
01:14:16,199 --> 01:14:18,800
not even going unless somebody actually is interacting with it,

1718
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,319
Like that's why I'm here, because you're here, like you

1719
01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:25,159
basically you walked in and the occupancy sensor went off

1720
01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:26,800
and the lights are on right now, but if nobody's

1721
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,439
in here, it's off, and that's just how it is.

1722
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,479
It probably is just it's tron so we don't really

1723
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,520
need to explain. This is just Jeff Bridges when you

1724
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,960
need him, like Gandal.

1725
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 3: Was provided in the room.

1726
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: I definitely feels like they designed this movie not to

1727
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,399
reveal this, but they're probably, eh. Tracking is not exactly

1728
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:48,880
where I wanted to be put him in some trailers

1729
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,880
because it feels like this should be at because if

1730
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,319
he was in the whole third act, then I got understand.

1731
01:14:53,359 --> 01:14:55,600
But for him being on the literal poster of this

1732
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,680
movie and he's in here for less than five minutes,

1733
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,880
this felt like something and I kind of wish it

1734
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:02,960
because we knew going forward for such a small scene.

1735
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,960
But yeah, I guess they delivered with the old griddin

1736
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:08,600
the bridge is still good. He's still dropping man's as

1737
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:09,600
much as possible.

1738
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,119
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, tickles my brain.

1739
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: Or dude, it's great.

1740
01:15:14,199 --> 01:15:18,119
Speaker 3: But uh. Also the Disney logo, the little Tron Disney

1741
01:15:18,119 --> 01:15:19,880
logo to the star like that, and that was cool.

1742
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,239
I want to talk about the music more because this

1743
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,439
music is so freaking good. So I feel like a

1744
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,359
lot of movies like this, you know, especially for a

1745
01:15:27,399 --> 01:15:30,520
movie like Legacy that has a very iconic soundtrack, you know,

1746
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,119
all these movies are like, okay, you know, maybe it's

1747
01:15:32,199 --> 01:15:34,720
new compositions, but it's like it's the same music, it's

1748
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,800
the same vibe saying all this and that. And that's

1749
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,199
where I think this is really cool because to me,

1750
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:41,720
this seems like almost like a sequel to the soundtrack

1751
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,840
of Legacy specifically, like I feel like there are a

1752
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,119
lot of those daft punk vibes, but I feel like

1753
01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:49,760
they kind of almost just change like the realm we're in,

1754
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,640
like take out some of the high notes, putting a

1755
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,640
lot more low than it's a lot more like basy stuff.

1756
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:54,880
And maybe that's just because I watched it in a

1757
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,680
theater and my seat is like gyrated as I'm sitting there.

1758
01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:00,960
But I really like that part, Like I feel like

1759
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,800
it was paying homage to the daft punk stuff but

1760
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,720
didn't really sound like that in like very specific ways.

1761
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,640
And it wasn't just like ripping off like oh, here's

1762
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,760
this line or this specific you know, chord scheme whatever

1763
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,239
from that soundtrack. So I really like that. There's even

1764
01:16:13,279 --> 01:16:15,119
like kind of trippiness stuff in there, Like there was

1765
01:16:15,159 --> 01:16:17,560
some parts in here that frownd very pink floydy, like

1766
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,000
for any Dark Side of the Moon fans like any

1767
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,720
color you like that song, Some of that like felt

1768
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,760
very similar to that sort of vibe. So I love that.

1769
01:16:24,359 --> 01:16:29,000
The kind of emotional I don't know theme we get

1770
01:16:29,039 --> 01:16:32,800
when when Aries is learning about Eve, I mean, totally

1771
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,000
different than the rest of the type of soundtrack we

1772
01:16:35,119 --> 01:16:38,079
get in this, but it transitions perfectly out of like

1773
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:40,359
you know, right into an action sequence rate after that

1774
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:41,840
out of that, and I think it just works perfectly

1775
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,439
even though it's like totally different vibe. And then even

1776
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,079
just like some of the timing, this is maybe more

1777
01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:48,159
credit to the editors, probably a mix of the editors

1778
01:16:48,199 --> 01:16:50,880
and the and the soundtrack here. But even one little

1779
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,560
moment I really liked is when even aries are out

1780
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:54,840
in the real world and they have to get to

1781
01:16:55,239 --> 01:16:57,720
the NCOM office, which the timing of that, I never

1782
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,840
believed that that would have happened in twenty nine minutes

1783
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:01,119
from like that.

1784
01:17:01,279 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 2: On a civic base. That's all you need?

1785
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 3: Does they stop at a gas station get a car,

1786
01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:11,520
But when they're first leaving that base and they're in

1787
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,520
the truck still she busts through like two fences in

1788
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,720
the in the van and like the music like perfectly

1789
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,159
sinks like two big hits with that. So yeah, just uh,

1790
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,319
unbelievable soundtrack. We've said it again, but we got to

1791
01:17:23,399 --> 01:17:25,199
repeat it over and over again. Should we just not

1792
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:27,600
even do best soundtrack and the Golden gigs this here

1793
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,319
and just give the winner award out? Like is the

1794
01:17:29,399 --> 01:17:29,960
real point?

1795
01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:32,319
Speaker 1: Everyone wants a second place trophy, so at least we

1796
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:33,920
can give them that. But yeah, I think it's uh,

1797
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,600
and I guess we don't choose. We don't choose the

1798
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,279
winner though, right technically, so that's what we got to

1799
01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:39,319
do it. I guess could agree us.

1800
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 3: Sour on this movie, so who knows. Maybe they hate

1801
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,079
the music. Too. I'm not sure.

1802
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think luckily, I guess. April did say very loud,

1803
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,399
it's only a couple of see so yeah, yeah, so

1804
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,399
we'll leave it up and hopefully see it. But yeah

1805
01:17:51,399 --> 01:17:54,600
we'll have to. But yeah, this is bullet for me,

1806
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,039
bullet when we get to not bull yeah, I guess,

1807
01:17:57,039 --> 01:18:00,760
but we're only for me. It's years. Yeah, we're only

1808
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,960
five years away from the twenty twenty Golden Geeks when

1809
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,560
we do the whole decade. And I'm saying it's already

1810
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,840
locked in there too, so you know, yeah, true and stuff.

1811
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:12,199
Speaker 3: I agree, top five, sign that five for sure. The

1812
01:18:12,319 --> 01:18:15,119
light bike sequence through Vancouver, you know, of course we

1813
01:18:15,119 --> 01:18:16,479
saw a lot of that in the trailer of like

1814
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,479
the bike go in front of the cop car slice

1815
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,640
it into that old sequence was great. Like I was

1816
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,319
always on the edge of my seat just because of

1817
01:18:23,359 --> 01:18:25,119
how fast they were going and the fact that they're

1818
01:18:25,119 --> 01:18:27,680
in like a real world location. It just made me

1819
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,119
so worried that I don't know, obviously, Greta is not

1820
01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:31,760
just gonna get hit by a car and tie and

1821
01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:34,439
because that would not be a good way to make

1822
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,119
a movie, because I was like half an hour in

1823
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,079
but man, the intensity. I really believed it because of

1824
01:18:39,159 --> 01:18:42,520
just how fast they were going busting through things. So

1825
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,439
I really love that sequence. And we talked about that

1826
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,840
Parkaid sequence a little bit when she's getting chased up

1827
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,279
the not the staircase but just going around in loops.

1828
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,119
But man, when she like launches the bike at Athena

1829
01:18:52,359 --> 01:18:54,239
and it like busts her through like the cement wall

1830
01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:57,279
and she falls like four stories, I like cringe because

1831
01:18:57,279 --> 01:18:59,359
of how much pain I felt just like having to

1832
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:02,279
watch that scene. And so that whole action sequence, you know,

1833
01:19:02,319 --> 01:19:04,039
obviously it's kind of the big trailer hit one, but

1834
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:06,439
I thought it was just perfect. I love that. And

1835
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,920
then even in that final sequence when all the I

1836
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,399
guess there weren't light bikes, there were more like the

1837
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,479
drones going through the city and we get like the

1838
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,760
zoom out like huge aerial view and we just see

1839
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,159
them kind of zipping through the alleyways doing loopy loops

1840
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:19,760
and stuff. Those are definitely some highlights for me on

1841
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,239
the visuals Action set PCE side of things.

1842
01:19:25,039 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 2: Completely agree fantastic scenes.

1843
01:19:27,399 --> 01:19:29,319
Speaker 1: I don't think that one would shout out would.

1844
01:19:29,119 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 6: Be the one I already shouted out with the water

1845
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,279
sequence just deserving of a double shout out because it

1846
01:19:33,319 --> 01:19:33,800
was so good.

1847
01:19:34,319 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: That's nothing. There's standouts, but there's also not a single

1848
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:38,239
like I can just be like, yeah, this whole movie

1849
01:19:38,279 --> 01:19:39,840
looks good, you know, like there's not a single like

1850
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,640
oh that log truck, Yeah, there's there's nothing. There's not

1851
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,279
even half a log truck. Like it's it's crazy. That's

1852
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:47,399
how you see Vancouver.

1853
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: There could have been log trucks everywhere.

1854
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah they took those out. But that's where it just

1855
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,760
feels like the movies were customed again, these big blockbusters,

1856
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,159
like well, there's gonna be a scene or two that

1857
01:19:55,279 --> 01:19:58,239
just fucking sucks, right, and no, that's here, you know,

1858
01:19:58,319 --> 01:20:00,760
like that happens, right, but it's just like that happened?

1859
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 6: Was that c g I Jeff Bridges at the start

1860
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,479
of the movie.

1861
01:20:05,039 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Bridge, I forgot about it does not exist. It

1862
01:20:14,079 --> 01:20:16,239
is not real. It's looking good.

1863
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 6: What they'll tack onto that water sequence that I absolutely

1864
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:24,199
love is just a funny moment when aries like forms

1865
01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:28,680
this bike at first he's like saving uh, Greta.

1866
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 5: We're talking about and just the position it was this

1867
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,000
her legs were tightly because it wasn't just like he

1868
01:20:41,079 --> 01:20:43,359
was laying on her. The vehicles put them together, and

1869
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,399
it was like and then luckily they like and then

1870
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:46,960
she moved on.

1871
01:20:47,079 --> 01:20:51,520
Speaker 2: She quickly realizes it and then like reverses. You know,

1872
01:20:52,319 --> 01:20:52,920
you didn't need to do.

1873
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 7: No.

1874
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,079
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, because it wasn't just he

1875
01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:58,960
was on top of her. It was the he was

1876
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,359
in striking zone distance. It looked like it was a starve.

1877
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,039
It was a crazy shot where it's like you couldn't

1878
01:21:05,039 --> 01:21:08,520
had her position any other way like that was that

1879
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,720
was something she could've just been like a little higher

1880
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,479
up or like in a cradle situation. No, it was

1881
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,199
full spread eagle by both of them. It was they

1882
01:21:16,239 --> 01:21:21,800
got close that day on set. My god, A couple

1883
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:22,640
of the notes for me.

1884
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:27,359
Speaker 3: One the yeah, I'm pivoting away moving on the twenty

1885
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,479
nine minute thing, or I guess its kind of set

1886
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:30,920
up at the start of the movie that's like, Okay,

1887
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,520
we got this cool tech, but you know, we have

1888
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,760
this limitation only time one point nine minutes. I was

1889
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,560
kind of thinking at that point, like, okay, by the

1890
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,720
half point wag in this movie, they're gonna get the

1891
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,800
code and then like all these you know, things from

1892
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,520
the grid are gonna come into the real world. And

1893
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,119
that was kind of a surprise for me that that

1894
01:21:44,119 --> 01:21:47,279
didn't end up happening only one person ever, or one program,

1895
01:21:47,279 --> 01:21:50,840
I guess could say I've ever got like the permanence aspect.

1896
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,680
I guess we were using on like you know, orange

1897
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,439
trees and stuff like that. But yeah, and I thought

1898
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,720
that that actually worked really well, and it could have

1899
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,000
also come up very cheesy, especially as you guys have

1900
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,560
we're talking about like in that final battle where it's like, okay,

1901
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,840
we sent out the first wave of Athena and then

1902
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,720
Athena got you know, d Res, We're gonna send out

1903
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,079
the second wave of Athena in this twenty nine minute timer.

1904
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,279
I don't know why he doesn't have like more programs

1905
01:22:13,399 --> 01:22:15,359
ready to go, Like it feels like he only has

1906
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,800
Athena and then like a couple other Lackeys and then Aris,

1907
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:19,880
who obviously went rogue.

1908
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 6: So that was a little bit goofy but brought.

1909
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,399
Speaker 3: Remember, Yeah, but but even done like, I thought that

1910
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,960
it led to some fun dynamics of you know, Aris

1911
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,239
popping out of Dillinger's system, you know, getting over to

1912
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:36,640
Flint's system, getting transport into that system, and then coming

1913
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,279
back out of that system into the real world. Like

1914
01:22:38,319 --> 01:22:41,680
I found that stuff just lower conceptwise. I'm obviously not

1915
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,039
a big lower head when it comes to Toronto. I've

1916
01:22:44,039 --> 01:22:47,199
seen these movies, you know, one time each, but I

1917
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,159
thought thought there was some really fun stuff there as

1918
01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:52,640
unique as different. So yeah, I enjoyed, uh some of

1919
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,159
those things.

1920
01:22:53,239 --> 01:22:59,119
Speaker 1: It was cool, agreed very quick.

1921
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 3: Quick note here is there's like these other two InCom people,

1922
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,399
Like there's a guy who's like doing the presentation and

1923
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,000
then he has like an assistant. I don't know what

1924
01:23:08,119 --> 01:23:09,760
was going on. Then, like I feel like we try

1925
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,039
to do some of that stuff.

1926
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,199
Speaker 2: That guy like he's like hacking. He's like, that's why

1927
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:16,680
I got the pat office. Bitch.

1928
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he never said bitch. He never said bitch.

1929
01:23:20,199 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 2: I know.

1930
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 3: I'm I felt bad for the assistant that he had

1931
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,119
because I feel like she was giving it her all

1932
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:30,399
performance wise, but she has like literally four words to

1933
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,199
perform and she's just like classic character who walks around

1934
01:23:33,239 --> 01:23:35,760
with like a iPad in her hand and like it

1935
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:36,479
looks things.

1936
01:23:36,399 --> 01:23:39,359
Speaker 1: And she's doing nothing. She's sitting beside them as a code.

1937
01:23:39,399 --> 01:23:40,800
So it's like, what are you doing here? You know?

1938
01:23:41,039 --> 01:23:43,239
Speaker 3: She only character that probably had a couple of scenes

1939
01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:45,439
cut or something, and like I didn't understand why, but

1940
01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:49,199
where she's like for you guys, go see this movie

1941
01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:51,880
and then she just like only has that stuff to do.

1942
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did appreciate though, because I was really worried

1943
01:23:55,039 --> 01:23:58,159
when he aj was that character her like Coco or whatever.

1944
01:23:58,159 --> 01:23:59,960
When he showed up and he's like, what's going on?

1945
01:24:00,319 --> 01:24:03,000
And they explain what's happening, and he's like, you're all

1946
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,079
sounding crazy. One, Uh doesn't make any sense because on

1947
01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:07,920
the news is all over about the stuff going on,

1948
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,439
So I don't know why at any point he was

1949
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,600
like what's going on? But two, I'll says a positive, Yeah,

1950
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,960
exactly right. But two, as I'll say, as a positive,

1951
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,319
I was really worried they're gonna do their like you're

1952
01:24:17,319 --> 01:24:19,640
not fit to run this company. I'm so worried we're

1953
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,439
going that where I was like I don't need this

1954
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:25,079
five minute mini villain storyline. And I liked that he's like, Okay,

1955
01:24:25,159 --> 01:24:27,039
well i'll help you code. So at that point I

1956
01:24:27,039 --> 01:24:28,800
was like, why did why did they just not make

1957
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,119
him run and be like I saw the news, how

1958
01:24:31,159 --> 01:24:33,920
can I help? Like why even for a minute was

1959
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,439
he like, you guys weren't making any sense what happened?

1960
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,079
It's like, no, every network is like as you can

1961
01:24:39,119 --> 01:24:41,800
see the beams cut through the car, it's like it's

1962
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:47,079
genre making it. We don't know for sure, but we're

1963
01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:51,680
pretty fucking sure he sucks, you know, like everything's out there.

1964
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,640
So just again, little things that if you were to

1965
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,439
look at me like, hey, we could just cut this,

1966
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,560
make up say something else, it makes more sense. That's

1967
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,439
where That's why I definitely think there's mu full times

1968
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,479
throughout this movie that there is stuff cut because it

1969
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,680
just feels like this doesn't really track, like this doesn't

1970
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,600
make sense in this particular moment of what's being said here,

1971
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,359
But you know, then it's something really cool pops up.

1972
01:25:10,399 --> 01:25:12,600
You're like, oh man, and then that chord comes in

1973
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,840
and you're off, You're you're floating.

1974
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 3: My host notes were just like the inded the two

1975
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,439
ending scenes.

1976
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:22,039
Speaker 1: Two.

1977
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess we're talking about Peter. I don't know

1978
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:26,560
if I have anything else to say on them.

1979
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 1: You scared me. There was another end credit because he's

1980
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,199
I know what you mean.

1981
01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 2: The one?

1982
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,039
Speaker 6: What was the second one? There was We're not there yet?

1983
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,479
Was it the Jared Little, thank you for coming out

1984
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:38,279
to see my movie.

1985
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 1: No no, no, I misunderstood. I misunderstood what Dylan said.

1986
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,760
The MP is one sure have him come back as

1987
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,680
a villain. I'm fine with that. I I want though,

1988
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,039
because he's a human in there. If we get Tron

1989
01:25:50,119 --> 01:25:54,479
for which I think is like i'll say sixty forty

1990
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,199
to know, I would like that grid looking really different,

1991
01:25:58,359 --> 01:26:00,920
Like to me, it's like someone inside there that's a coder.

1992
01:26:01,119 --> 01:26:02,600
I don't want to just make I patch it up,

1993
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,199
like I want to see something really popping off in there.

1994
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:08,920
But you know, and I guess it made sense. He

1995
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,680
didn't want to go to prison, so I bought. I

1996
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,560
bought the ending enough of him doing that.

1997
01:26:13,079 --> 01:26:13,199
Speaker 4: You know.

1998
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 3: I agree.

1999
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,159
Speaker 1: He had the Dealinger design for the first Tron, So yep,

2000
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,199
that was cool. Any thoughts, Tayloring, you shit your head,

2001
01:26:22,199 --> 01:26:23,760
but you know, audio people.

2002
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,199
Speaker 4: I thought against it's kind of taking back with his

2003
01:26:27,359 --> 01:26:30,600
like Master Control program, like face appearance that was in

2004
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:31,000
there and.

2005
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff.

2006
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 3: I like the look at that.

2007
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:35,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I want one of those.

2008
01:26:35,159 --> 01:26:35,399
Speaker 2: Man.

2009
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,319
Speaker 6: I did not like the part when he was, uh,

2010
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,760
he's like going back and forth and when when I

2011
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,399
think it's right before Aes like decides to go against

2012
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,119
him and he's like, why do I have to do that?

2013
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,039
Speaker 2: And he's like, he's like, I'm curious. What happened to

2014
01:26:50,119 --> 01:26:52,239
that part? He's like, I'm curious why you're curious?

2015
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,079
Speaker 6: Of course, I just got Barbosa in my head, so

2016
01:26:57,119 --> 01:27:00,159
I'm just laughing. And they said curious way too many

2017
01:27:00,199 --> 01:27:01,479
times back to back in that moment.

2018
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful with that word now.

2019
01:27:03,239 --> 01:27:05,239
Speaker 6: And then they have they have they haven't like rage

2020
01:27:05,239 --> 01:27:07,520
text in his program and like that humor just didn't

2021
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:08,279
work for me at all.

2022
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,319
Speaker 2: It's it's very small.

2023
01:27:10,399 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: But even at the beginning when they create hers, he's

2024
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,039
like who I am? Who am I? And Peter's like

2025
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,600
what am I? Or what are you like? And they

2026
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,840
kind of made it like finally like all right, sure,

2027
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,800
but yeah, we'll see if we see him again, Yeah

2028
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,279
we'll see. At this rate, we'll we'll got a sequel

2029
01:27:29,319 --> 01:27:35,000
in two thousand and thirty five, so okay, but then yeah, yeah,

2030
01:27:35,039 --> 01:27:37,720
we'll be here. But yeah. And then because they set

2031
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,960
up at the beginning that sam Flin was missing and

2032
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,319
there was a picture of her or them two together,

2033
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,359
so it's like what's happening? And then yeah, Leto just

2034
01:27:45,399 --> 01:27:48,760
reveals that he has a picture of Livy Wild still live,

2035
01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:55,319
he has for her. Yeah, he's got address coordinates and

2036
01:27:55,359 --> 01:27:57,800
he gets in his bike and he's going there, and like,

2037
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,920
I guess I kind of get it. But at this

2038
01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:02,079
same point, I just wonder, because I guess you want

2039
01:28:02,119 --> 01:28:03,920
to talk to someone's like you, but I also wonder,

2040
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,199
like what do they actually have to talk about? Like

2041
01:28:06,199 --> 01:28:08,039
what why do you actually have to find her? It's like, yeah,

2042
01:28:08,079 --> 01:28:09,800
I used to be like you, and now he.

2043
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 3: Can drink coffee or if that will suck up his program.

2044
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Well, luckily Google exists and he can just well, I

2045
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,600
guess the program. He's just a person. He's just a person. Now,

2046
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,680
I think, Okay, in my head, Cannon, he's just a person.

2047
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:30,000
He has heart everything, digest blood. Absolutely right.

2048
01:28:30,079 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 3: We didn't heart.

2049
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't see anything else. So I guess I

2050
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,199
guess he's gonna go find her.

2051
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 6: I was, I mean's run that question. Just to interject

2052
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,039
with Travis's statement there, I do think he is biological,

2053
01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:45,920
but like he's got the artificial AI soul to him.

2054
01:28:47,279 --> 01:28:50,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what doesn't what is like?

2055
01:28:50,319 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 2: But he's got a fleshy wiener, He's got a fleshy heart.

2056
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 8: So she's gonna have the answer to Jared Leto's fleshy wiener.

2057
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,800
Unfortunately it's the same she's is.

2058
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,199
Speaker 1: She gonna have the answer? What did you do with

2059
01:29:05,239 --> 01:29:06,079
that soul? Well?

2060
01:29:06,119 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's been around for uh cook and how

2061
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,399
many years have passed? Ten years?

2062
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,079
Speaker 1: Ten years? I guess he can just figured it out

2063
01:29:13,119 --> 01:29:13,640
on his own.

2064
01:29:14,119 --> 01:29:16,399
Speaker 3: How funny would it have been if the post credit

2065
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,760
scene was just Cora getting de res after twenty nine

2066
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,039
minutes because she didn't have the permanence come. It was

2067
01:29:23,119 --> 01:29:25,199
just like her and Sam bike.

2068
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,119
Speaker 1: And Sam explodes because he's like on the bike and

2069
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:29,840
it takes it down and that's why he's missing this.

2070
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess everything out of Flynn's kind of world

2071
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,319
there and the og one would be permanent, right because

2072
01:29:36,319 --> 01:29:39,920
you have Clue who's coming out. This gives them the thing, right,

2073
01:29:41,119 --> 01:29:46,800
But Clue didn't his his ARC reactor right, so I

2074
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,279
guess he would have been able to get out.

2075
01:29:48,119 --> 01:29:49,399
Speaker 2: There in the real world.

2076
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: I remember any of that.

2077
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 4: Because he Clue needed uh Flynn's life disc right to

2078
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,399
get out and so that probably had something to do with.

2079
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,760
I mean in retrospect then they didn't know what a

2080
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:02,439
fucking purple that one thing was.

2081
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,399
Speaker 2: But now just yeah, I.

2082
01:30:04,319 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 3: Guess we weren't talking about the permanence code back then.

2083
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,720
They kind of retrofitted that one in there.

2084
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 6: So also like at the end of the movie, they're like,

2085
01:30:13,119 --> 01:30:15,319
now that we have permanence, we solved cancer.

2086
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,399
Speaker 2: We saw it like like they just solved everything.

2087
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: Because complete pro AI movie.

2088
01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 3: I don't really.

2089
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 4: Understand what permanence does for that, right, because they can

2090
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:29,920
create fruit, right, like just then create fruit was.

2091
01:30:30,039 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 1: Right, right, It's just he produced. But no, that's why

2092
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,039
to me, Jared Letto's body is real because if they

2093
01:30:37,079 --> 01:30:38,920
were to be like, look, we've let's say fruit when

2094
01:30:39,319 --> 01:30:41,319
let's say oranges when extinct, right, and they're like, we

2095
01:30:41,399 --> 01:30:43,920
have this machine that creates oranges, take a bite, and

2096
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,399
if he been in it and the orange is exploded,

2097
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,560
to be like, well, permanence gets us nothing. That's why

2098
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,159
I think they are using all this coding and all

2099
01:30:51,159 --> 01:30:54,039
this tech to create like the way fucking I don't

2100
01:30:54,039 --> 01:30:55,520
know how it works is I'm a simpleton. The way

2101
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,560
they're like, yeah, you know when you make these AI videos,

2102
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,319
it like uses more water because these machines are like, fuck,

2103
01:31:00,359 --> 01:31:02,439
I didn't know any of this. Luckily I don't use AI. Yeah,

2104
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,760
look into it. It's fucking weird. So it's like we're

2105
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,039
making our world lose water where people making just fucking

2106
01:31:08,119 --> 01:31:12,039
like uh, like, I don't know Jerry theory. No, it's

2107
01:31:12,079 --> 01:31:14,359
not look into it. Look into It's not conspiracy theory.

2108
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,359
It know it's it's literally not go look into it.

2109
01:31:17,399 --> 01:31:20,520
There's no conspiracy theory. It's the machines that power. It's

2110
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,800
machines that power and produce a I look into it,

2111
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,840
and you'll come back and say, oh, trust you're right,

2112
01:31:25,159 --> 01:31:27,479
just like with Jeff Bridges, that is right. No, no, but

2113
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,000
you asked me a question. I'm answering it. I answer

2114
01:31:30,079 --> 01:31:33,079
your question. The orange just have to be real for

2115
01:31:33,119 --> 01:31:35,800
this to even matter. The cancer stuff has to be real.

2116
01:31:36,039 --> 01:31:37,720
So that's why I think Jared Letto is real. So

2117
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,640
they just literally put into like hey, Troy and figure

2118
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,399
out cancer. Figure out this. So at the beginning of

2119
01:31:42,399 --> 01:31:44,479
the movie when they're like, way, I could be bad,

2120
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,880
I could ruin everything, at the end of the movie like, no, no,

2121
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,960
it's good. It can it can help the world. So

2122
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,479
we're just getting soft launched for Disney, just fucking us

2123
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,079
over all this as stuff and yeah it's gonna kill Saul.

2124
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: That conspiracy, it's not.

2125
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 6: I just don't understand how you know what I'm true,

2126
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,199
get oranges that don't evaporate after twenty nine minutes to

2127
01:32:03,399 --> 01:32:04,560
like this solves everything?

2128
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 4: Now, Like I can type in a prompt cure for

2129
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,359
cancer and it creates.

2130
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 2: It, then you're good?

2131
01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 7: Is it?

2132
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 2: Okay? I don't even want to ask any more questions because.

2133
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,119
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if you have like a if

2134
01:32:15,159 --> 01:32:17,239
you have like a cancer in your kidneys, you could

2135
01:32:17,279 --> 01:32:19,680
like three D printed kidney essentially.

2136
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 2: Is okay? Okay?

2137
01:32:21,239 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 4: See that makes sense that oh shit, we gave them

2138
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:28,800
the twenty nine minute one medications medications too, right.

2139
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,520
Speaker 2: They'll be like payment plans, right, the cheaper one.

2140
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: Like that Black Mere episode. Everyone watched the Black Mere

2141
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,520
episode that Dylan remember that Crystal down one this year

2142
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,720
with his wife when she's sick, but you can you

2143
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,119
can pay to keep her alive. That's that's there, you remember.

2144
01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I didn't hear the Black Mirror parts. I

2145
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:45,000
was like, Chris so.

2146
01:32:45,079 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: Doubt, oh sorr, yeah black Marr So yeah, that that's

2147
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:49,680
where when they're like, oh, we ain't cure cancer. Yeah

2148
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:51,800
in our world, that's what's gonna fucking happen. Yeah, we

2149
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:56,159
ain't cure cancer for one hundred grand or no death forever. Yeah, yeah,

2150
01:32:56,159 --> 01:32:56,920
we have no water.

2151
01:32:57,319 --> 01:33:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah that one made sense too, of like yeah, verus

2152
01:33:00,359 --> 01:33:06,000
country and AI AI is not the problem. That doesn't AI.

2153
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, It doesn't thank you dial, and it doesn't

2154
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,359
matter that's.

2155
01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 3: Image used water to make that image.

2156
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: And doesn't matter any amount of water being used to

2157
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,720
me to see fucking mister Rogers versus like Jerry Springer

2158
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,840
in a fake WW match that doesn't deserve no.

2159
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 4: Water quality Rogers videos. Oh yeah, and he's like counting

2160
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,359
his twenty dollars bills like I got mad stacks.

2161
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,239
Speaker 1: And then in fifty years when when your grandkids you're like,

2162
01:33:32,399 --> 01:33:34,760
grab a tailor, my lungs have no water. You're like, oh,

2163
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,039
this fucking mister Rogers video is tight, right.

2164
01:33:37,359 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 3: I heard. The most fucked up thing today was I

2165
01:33:39,039 --> 01:33:42,960
was at a Thanksgiving dinner with my with my family

2166
01:33:43,279 --> 01:33:45,920
at my grandma's retirement homes and there was there was

2167
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,439
another guy who came up when he was talking to us,

2168
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,600
and he was like, yeah, I use AI to generate

2169
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,640
family Thanksgiving stories that I share with everyone.

2170
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Fucking so fucked up. It sucks, it sucks. I promise

2171
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,439
you forever. AI will not be in any fucking GVS films.

2172
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:05,680
I promise you that I'm not like, I'm not using

2173
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,159
any fucking water. It's not happened.

2174
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 3: I just and again, watch you, Taylor might sneak them

2175
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:09,960
in there.

2176
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,039
Speaker 1: No, no, he's getting the cut and like, just like

2177
01:34:12,119 --> 01:34:14,800
fucking Athena, she turned in a second. AI. Oh well,

2178
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,000
because this is the prompt you want me to do, right, Commander,

2179
01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:19,800
Like that's all takes to take one thing too literal

2180
01:34:20,079 --> 01:34:21,319
and it's over for us.

2181
01:34:21,239 --> 01:34:23,520
Speaker 6: You know, forgetting the aries though, that's just gonna be

2182
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,079
perfectly good, right.

2183
01:34:25,079 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, switch, we just gotta rain. Sure. Now he's

2184
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:32,199
just out there looking for Pou tang. So fuck, that's

2185
01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:32,840
the next.

2186
01:34:34,359 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 2: Water.

2187
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: I get it. But if it's Siren, I understand. But

2188
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:43,199
you know, anything else, for no, sire, that would have

2189
01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:45,279
been ten movie. Yeah, that would have been another one

2190
01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:48,600
hundred and ten. You know, check out our You're good

2191
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:48,800
to go.

2192
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,239
Speaker 3: Who needs any of these chorism What.

2193
01:34:51,279 --> 01:34:53,279
Speaker 1: I need then, don't is grete Lee and the siren.

2194
01:34:53,319 --> 01:34:59,880
Get up the white like the super white makeup. Yeah,

2195
01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:00,840
anything else.

2196
01:35:02,159 --> 01:35:04,279
Speaker 6: I can give it a score. I found that Freda

2197
01:35:04,359 --> 01:35:06,239
Lee is forty two years old, which I didn't know.

2198
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:10,600
She looks younger than I thought. She looks absolutely fantastic.

2199
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:11,520
She's a beautiful lady.

2200
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, stunny.

2201
01:35:13,119 --> 01:35:15,199
Speaker 2: Jared Lettle looks like he was sixty seven in this movie.

2202
01:35:15,319 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 1: You did some crazy Okay, No, I will push back,

2203
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:22,800
Jared lem Actually he played Jeff in the TV. No,

2204
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,399
I will push back. Jared Lettle's all that.

2205
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,399
Speaker 3: Baby of this movie is that he actually is almost

2206
01:35:27,399 --> 01:35:28,399
sixty Okay.

2207
01:35:28,399 --> 01:35:30,279
Speaker 1: I think he's like fifty something, right, but.

2208
01:35:30,359 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 3: Hold than that, he's got to be like seventy seven.

2209
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,199
Speaker 1: He's fifty three. But no, he's looking yeah all the yeah, No,

2210
01:35:37,239 --> 01:35:39,680
he's he's looking good for a fifty three year old. Again,

2211
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,840
I I STI don't know why they gave him the lead.

2212
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:43,920
I guess I was talking with somebody, wonder Maank, who's

2213
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,720
been on mine or Cherry Stream she uh Trump fan

2214
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,760
wonder Bank, Uh yeah, no, wonder Maank, And I guess

2215
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,600
because we were talking about because a couple of weeks ago,

2216
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,439
the director someone asked like why is this character on

2217
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,039
this on this but but and he's like, well, you know,

2218
01:35:56,119 --> 01:35:58,920
sometimes just stars don't want to come back for projects.

2219
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,640
But I guess Kart Headler, I was like, yeah, I

2220
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,359
asked to come back and I wanted nothing to do

2221
01:36:02,399 --> 01:36:06,319
with me, so again, I'll always come back. Well, I

2222
01:36:06,319 --> 01:36:08,239
think you're I don't know. They have the same amount

2223
01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:10,039
of Chrismy Garrett.

2224
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 3: Whatever the fuck would not have been doing a roll

2225
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:12,640
of aries though.

2226
01:36:14,199 --> 01:36:16,199
Speaker 1: True. But I also just be like, in a sense

2227
01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:18,439
of if it's star power, it's like no one's no

2228
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,359
one's sitting in a chair because Jared Lowe, there's other

2229
01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:21,640
people that could have been put.

2230
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,239
Speaker 2: In this role of this film, right, Like like he also.

2231
01:36:25,319 --> 01:36:28,079
Speaker 1: Anybody could be a producer. No, that's a.

2232
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Lot in Headline or whatever the name.

2233
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 1: Is, Garret Heaven, No, that's a lot. He came on

2234
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,079
the project then probably became a producer after he did

2235
01:36:35,079 --> 01:36:37,039
not go to Disney and Jared Lettle wasn't like fucking

2236
01:36:37,079 --> 01:36:38,520
pitching them nails.

2237
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,119
Speaker 3: They tried to fire him, and he's like, what if

2238
01:36:40,119 --> 01:36:46,000
I get two hundred thousand dollars.

2239
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 1: Kirk on your pitch of anything? He would have been

2240
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,119
pitching Hey, thirty seconds to Mars. We could do a

2241
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:50,520
killer album. I could sing the original song like no,

2242
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,960
we're good, we got trend and Atticus, We're We're more

2243
01:36:54,039 --> 01:36:57,600
okay than Jared ll Dylan. Drop your score eight.

2244
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:02,159
Speaker 3: Point one two five, oh okay, eight and an eighth.

2245
01:37:02,319 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 2: I like that.

2246
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:05,560
Speaker 3: God, did any thinking about that?

2247
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:09,199
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna.

2248
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: Go an eight. I'll give it this quiet yeah, purely,

2249
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:18,119
just again for I'll be excited to return to this

2250
01:37:19,039 --> 01:37:20,840
when I do watch it at home. I'm gonna try

2251
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,760
again see it there about. I'll be excited to see

2252
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,399
if it's still an eight after all that stuff is gone,

2253
01:37:25,399 --> 01:37:27,239
because I could see it dropping. But I don't think

2254
01:37:27,279 --> 01:37:31,279
like a massive amount, but for this experience right here. Eight, Uh,

2255
01:37:31,319 --> 01:37:33,399
everything I want from the music last, because because again

2256
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,600
I said, even this movie fucking sucks. I know, I

2257
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,720
got a new Nine Nails album coming out and it's great,

2258
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,319
and yeah, if this is a two hour long music video,

2259
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,399
hell yeah, I got some great visuals and I really

2260
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,880
enjoyed this mortgage port there. So yeah, i'll give it

2261
01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:49,319
an eight purely enjoyment level.

2262
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna be pretty low.

2263
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: So you going to give it to Taylor. Yeah, I'm

2264
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,399
gonna it out for dear life. At the end of

2265
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:58,399
this movie, you should.

2266
01:37:58,199 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 4: Saw on it to go to above six here and

2267
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:06,359
say it's a nice age.

2268
01:38:08,199 --> 01:38:28,039
Speaker 7: Uh brother, come on, yeah, this isn't.

2269
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 6: That right, hot brother, fucking Gillian Anderson's it was.

2270
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, this this is a it was a good time.

2271
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,520
Like there are things that you can nickpick when you

2272
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,359
break it down and all that, like we we did

2273
01:38:38,399 --> 01:38:41,479
hear breaking down this movie and tonight's review, But AT's core,

2274
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,800
I think there's there's a lot more pros to this,

2275
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,479
whether it's the score, the visuals, just like some of

2276
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,800
the acting performances and whatnot. And again some of the

2277
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:53,079
zaniness that you see here too. The flamboyantness, I think

2278
01:38:53,079 --> 01:38:54,560
it just kind of fits.

2279
01:38:54,239 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 3: With you just to throw a flamboyant in there at

2280
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:59,439
the end of too Much. You couldn't go an episode.

2281
01:38:59,079 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Of I don't think there's anything flamboyant in this movie.

2282
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,199
Speaker 4: Oh Peters, that's a little flamboint.

2283
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 1: That's the closest.

2284
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, A nice eight out of ten.

2285
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,039
Speaker 2: I do plan to revisit this movie.

2286
01:39:13,119 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 1: Maybe take my dad go see this me No, no joking.

2287
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:20,960
Can't we do the double header with legacy. That'll be

2288
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,319
a fun time. So you work on and us off.

2289
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:25,359
What give it?

2290
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 3: Give it a nine out of inch nails.

2291
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 2: That's a good idea.

2292
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,279
Speaker 6: I can't do that though, because of in this movie,

2293
01:39:34,319 --> 01:39:37,680
and I mean the second pillar, which is the.

2294
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,039
Speaker 2: Quick jump from bad aries to good aries.

2295
01:39:40,079 --> 01:39:42,399
Speaker 6: I think just discussing with you guys, I'm a little

2296
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:46,600
bit more okay with but Evan Peters is I don't

2297
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,039
even want to say Evan Peters because I am an

2298
01:39:48,079 --> 01:39:52,479
Evan Peters fan, which was that character it really, I'm

2299
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,279
just I'm just damaged from Alien Earth and that.

2300
01:39:55,640 --> 01:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Stars that Yeah, fuck, don't bring it back damage.

2301
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna give it an eight point three two

2302
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:20,039
five yeah christ Yeah yeah, definitely not an iron No, No,

2303
01:40:20,399 --> 01:40:21,079
definitely nuts.

2304
01:40:21,359 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 2: But great time at the theaters.

2305
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 6: I enjoyed myself this evening, and uh recommend bringing your

2306
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:30,039
father to this one, Taylor.

2307
01:40:30,119 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 2: One out of one.

2308
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 4: Dad's enjoyed to bring a mother or just the father's No,

2309
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,760
your mother, she's gonna ask you been talking the whole

2310
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,359
movie being like I think I know what's going on.

2311
01:40:39,399 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 1: Taylor. It's like, no twist mom.

2312
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 3: On that guy right there, he's terrible.

2313
01:40:46,199 --> 01:40:49,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, looks like, is your No, that's a lie. She'd

2314
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:51,199
love it, your mom. Do you think she's Jared Little fan.

2315
01:40:54,079 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if she'd be Jared little fan, but

2316
01:40:56,079 --> 01:40:57,880
she would just be like, oh I like this actor.

2317
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Suicide Squad.

2318
01:41:01,399 --> 01:41:05,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, last movie, I took her to a Sasquarck sunset

2319
01:41:05,359 --> 01:41:08,000
in the theater, So definitely a step up.

2320
01:41:11,279 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 1: At least you don't have any scenes like that going on.

2321
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:18,319
But that's true. Yeah, very old Ajan. That is it

2322
01:41:18,359 --> 01:41:19,920
for a movie, like we said at the end of

2323
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,800
the year, was not on the calendar til we did

2324
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,920
a retro to now here we are in tront Aries

2325
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,720
and yeah, I don't know. We'll have to see what

2326
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it does. It's fluctuated. At one point it was doing

2327
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better than tracking, one point is doing lower. But on

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01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,399
the next episode Monday, trest told you I was break

2329
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:35,439
down box off the Monday, so cheap plug for I'll

2330
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:37,560
talk about then and we'll see. I think I think

2331
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,039
we'd all be something in the camp of wanting more.

2332
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I'm fine even if it's just more again where it's

2333
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,479
like new main character, new story, here we go. But

2334
01:41:45,079 --> 01:41:46,479
I guess that's one thing I didn't say it's like

2335
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:48,680
not a call. Actually, I think it's a con. The

2336
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,880
last five minutes is just like pure sequel baiting of

2337
01:41:51,039 --> 01:41:54,479
like Evan Peters is bad guy. Oh, there's core, here's

2338
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,359
a coordinate. He's just out there. It's like I would

2339
01:41:57,359 --> 01:42:01,399
have preferred the movie anymore because I just don't know

2340
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when we're gonna revisit this again. But you know, maybe

2341
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,079
when Disney has something on the calendar they empty spot.

2342
01:42:06,079 --> 01:42:08,520
Hey we own Tron. Let's do that again, and we

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01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,520
will be there. So until then, promise you and I'll

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not be born.

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Speaker 3: Good night and