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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of March tenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're continuing with A Man on the Inside, Season one,

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<v Speaker 2>episode seven. It was called from Russian Hill with Love

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<v Speaker 2>and in which Charles and Calvert go on a know

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<v Speaker 2>Day Ferris Bueller Day, Ferris Bueller's day out adventure in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco. They they somehow managed to fit in like

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<v Speaker 2>a cruise on the Bay, a baseball game that they

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<v Speaker 2>stay for like one out of.

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<v Speaker 1>And how much must those tickets have cost?

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<v Speaker 2>Never mind? Yeah, and just like we're on there together

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball game, it starts in an hour, like the

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<v Speaker 2>timing of it all. But whatever, yeah, don't think about that. No,

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<v Speaker 2>And while at the same time, the case is falling

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<v Speaker 2>apart because the cover has been blown, deities onto them,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's building to a to a crescendo, which of

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<v Speaker 2>course becaus the cliffhanger at the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally we remember that we have a case, yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And Mark Evin Jackson finally says, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I paying for now? We saw him.

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<v Speaker 2>After he meets thirty days. It's been thirty days.

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<v Speaker 1>Why weren't you asking after fifteen? You know? But whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, so it looks like we're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>resolution to the case next week. But meanwhile, it was

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just let my husband sum it up. Part Way

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<v Speaker 1>through the episode, he said, this is a depressing episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a lot of it. Let's philosophize about aging.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about my wife and her tragic decline, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's talk about my son and our broken relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And that reminds me about my daughter in a broken Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just like if Mike Suore comes out with

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<v Speaker 1>a book on aging after this, then all will be revealed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he just got into this and said, ooh interesting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this some interesting things to say about this. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>dwell on this for seven of our eight episodes, six

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<v Speaker 1>maybe six yikes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. That confrontation between Calbert and his son was yes,

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<v Speaker 2>youch ouch, yeah, and calvit's just like parents and kids,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that what he said?

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<v Speaker 1>His parents and kids? Man, parents and kids and kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And shortly thereafter the next scene he cuts to the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them in an uber and Charles realizing who

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<v Speaker 1>the solving the mystery in his head?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so does it have something to do with parents

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<v Speaker 2>and kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, parents and kids?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? I hope it's not Calbert. He's such a nice man. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, we're spending an awful lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>with this dude that would generally suggest that he's guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and also, like you know, Calbert decides that he's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to move to Singapore with his son, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because now he has friends here. Well his friend is Charles,

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<v Speaker 2>and Charles is supposed to be moving out the next day,

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<v Speaker 2>so right, Oh, and is also a fraud. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well I wanted to end with you know, solving the

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<v Speaker 2>crime and someone we don't care about, and Charles is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stay. I like it here.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems to be It's hard to see how there's

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<v Speaker 1>a season two without that being there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he needs to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, although I guess he could go home and then

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<v Speaker 1>season two could start with him coming back. But it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like just set him up with a job to

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<v Speaker 1>be security. They've been on Dedie's back to provide security.

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<v Speaker 1>Let him be the security guy and we'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know it thought that.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole thing of her, of Julie, like as his daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>pulling him out of this place abruptly and using as

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<v Speaker 1>the excuse he didn't love the people, right, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of that's gonna our sting if that's right, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>suspect it seems done necessarily, yeah, because he didn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to not love.

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<v Speaker 2>The people right right.

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<v Speaker 1>If they said that about Elliott, I guess maybe, but still,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he seems like a cantankerous fellow.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaning hard on that Elliott punched him. They really are.

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<v Speaker 1>But it reminded me of like a mom getting our

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<v Speaker 1>kid out of a daycare. You know, he didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>along with the other children, and that one child punched

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<v Speaker 1>him in the face. So we're just gonna go. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just taking him out, and the daycare person is like, wait, wait, wait, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there's paperwork, there's interviews, there's you know, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this. No, no, I'm just pulling him today,

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<v Speaker 1>right goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was a kid, so my mom, as you

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<v Speaker 2>might have gathered, you know, very confident, you know, type

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<v Speaker 2>a ambitious, you know, very oh my god, just like

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<v Speaker 2>the dogs are, you know, very like she knows what

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<v Speaker 2>she wants, she knows how to get it. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's not at all mean, but she's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she just this is the way things need to be,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to make sure they are. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, I took dance lessons and I

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<v Speaker 2>was terrible, and you know, eventually it was like this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is silly. We're not gonna keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>But this dance teacher who ran the dance school, my

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<v Speaker 2>mom was so intimidated by, like she's the only person

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<v Speaker 3>Of in my entire life that my mom was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm scared of her, and she just like wrote a

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<v Speaker 3>note withdrawing me from the school and like slipped it

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<v Speaker 3>in her mailbox in the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just like, I can't I can't face that one.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I'm scared of her. It was it was

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<v Speaker 2>a whole scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, I feel like my mom had some situations

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<v Speaker 1>like that at various times that she could be very

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, I was. She didn't want to make conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was her, yeah project, and so she would

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh yeah, I mean I think they probably could

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<v Speaker 2>have handled it better. Yeah, the withdrawal, but perhaps we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see how that helped. I mean, but Charles didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>about any of this right because no was off on

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<v Speaker 2>his adventure with Calvert, so he had no idea until

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<v Speaker 2>he came back that Julie was pulling him out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Very impressive operation though, that she had everything coordinated,

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<v Speaker 1>that if Dede called the office, they the secretary knew

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<v Speaker 1>that the assistant whenever she is her job, knew to

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<v Speaker 1>give the which lie to give, and that even Emily,

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<v Speaker 1>the real Emily had a screw right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had fake websites set up they had Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they they covered their tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>They did that was impressive and perhaps unrealistically done.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're professionals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. My husband was like, well, how did Emily get

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<v Speaker 1>that script? And I said, well, the assistant must have

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a problem, or maybe just because it

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<v Speaker 1>had up to date information about him being pulled out,

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<v Speaker 1>so it couldn't have been just something they gave her,

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<v Speaker 1>said justin king.

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<v Speaker 2>And they knew they were going to NAPA and there

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<v Speaker 2>in a.

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<v Speaker 1>State of signing her own name when the other girl

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. So well, because she didn't know at that

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<v Speaker 1>point he was not there. Wasn't it after he got

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<v Speaker 1>punched though, so she didn't know it that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe didn't she?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I think it's just if you are not

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<v Speaker 1>a professional operative, you don't think it all the way,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would you know to like although she was

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<v Speaker 1>very good at lying, but I guess she just never

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<v Speaker 1>thought about her signature. Yeah, at any rate, she blew

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<v Speaker 1>their She blew their cover and uh there was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh parenting wise, Charles told that terrible story about his

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<v Speaker 1>wife not remembering her favorite dish and only remembering the

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<v Speaker 1>thing from when she was right, and you know that

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<v Speaker 1>was very hard. But also the thing about here I

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<v Speaker 1>present you with your favorite dish and the person saying no,

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<v Speaker 1>I want apples and peanut but is.

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<v Speaker 2>Very oh for sure, yes, every mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Is going, yeah, well this story is tragic. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have had that happen to me about twenty times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, when they decide.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom, I don't want this thing you just made because

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<v Speaker 1>I demanded it. I just want a peanut butter.

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<v Speaker 2>And they just decide that they absolutely love X Y

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<v Speaker 2>it and then I hate it, Like what now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be eating all these granola bars or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>So at both ends of life, you can I'm dealing

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<v Speaker 2>Poor Charles, Poor Charles, poor Charles's wife too, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, definitely, yeah, we heard the story about how they

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<v Speaker 1>met all and just uh it was really the whole

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<v Speaker 1>The whole storyline with him and Calvert was very sweet

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<v Speaker 1>and melancholy, but not often they had a that was

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<v Speaker 1>very nice. I enjoyed watching all of that. That actor

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<v Speaker 1>who's who's playing that character is very bright and they

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<v Speaker 1>make an interesting contrast in human right. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a one line somewhere where somebody said, every great thing

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, looking back on it feels like a mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've had that feeling as a parent, just in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of how my family came together and how different

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<v Speaker 1>things that looked like they were going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the world wound up transpiring and really does

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<v Speaker 1>sort of amaze you on everything how things turn out.

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<v Speaker 1>So they should need to bring over Charlie from Law,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from Lost, and say, look, man, you know

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<v Speaker 1>things look darker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you never know, you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>They might get there, right, But it's possible to take

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<v Speaker 1>you to a baseball game.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to look like a Marica when you look bad,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps a darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I anyway, so now we have one more left.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we What are we thinking? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>any theories?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not have a theory. And then I made

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<v Speaker 1>this mistake of reading a Reddit review of this episode

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody said, I've only watched this episode, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how it ends, but this is what I think,

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<v Speaker 1>it because I didn't come up with it and because

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of ruined. Yeah, although this person did not

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<v Speaker 1>know it was not a spoiler. It was just their guests.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like it seemed a very plaus like a reasonable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, bouncing off from parents and kids man parents. So

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<v Speaker 1>we shall see if that is it. I will reveal this, okay, ones,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I mean, I at one point

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<v Speaker 1>thought I would like Susan to be the thief because

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<v Speaker 1>she is so incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>President Susan Terry.

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<v Speaker 1>President Susan President. Yes, yes, yes, President Susan, Thief President Susan,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably not. And she seems to be have have

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<v Speaker 1>quite enough to do without that, right, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's dudy. No, So she seemed she seemed genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>flum mixed by the whole thing of what is going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Charles, right, didn't she didn't seem like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, they're going to catch me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, like she's like, I'm catching I'm catching them

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm looking out for my he is messing with

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking out for my seniors. I don't want anybody

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<v Speaker 2>to mess with them. And of course we found out,

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<v Speaker 2>as we predicted that she would turn down the corporate

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<v Speaker 2>job because she loves her people.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, although when you're talking about theft, maybe saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's more rewarding to stay here was not.

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<v Speaker 2>The yeah I gotta stay here where all the good

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<v Speaker 2>jewels are.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't necessarily negate what this person was saying. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we know what you mean, babe, we know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And so how will it? So do you have a theory?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really, I'm not good at predicting these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have more people that I would want it

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<v Speaker 1>not to be. Yeah, maybe somebody just came in from

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<v Speaker 1>came in from the stre Yeah, there we go. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>was walking round.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they don't seem to have very type security on

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<v Speaker 2>as to who can come in and out. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't even have like a person posted at the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't have a door.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they do have like a sign in, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not very aggressive about like who are you and

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<v Speaker 2>why are you here?

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah that's been noted before, right, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall see. So it's the season finale, The spy

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<v Speaker 2>who came in from the cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Next Wednesday, Francisco, that's true.

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