Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of March tenth,
Speaker 2: we're continuing with A Man on the Inside, Season one,
Speaker 2: episode seven. It was called from Russian Hill with Love
Speaker 2: and in which Charles and Calvert go on a know
Speaker 2: Day Ferris Bueller Day, Ferris Bueller's day out adventure in
Speaker 2: San Francisco. They they somehow managed to fit in like
Speaker 2: a cruise on the Bay, a baseball game that they
Speaker 2: stay for like one out of.
Speaker 1: And how much must those tickets have cost?
Speaker 2: Never mind? Yeah, and just like we're on there together
Speaker 2: a baseball game, it starts in an hour, like the
Speaker 2: timing of it all. But whatever, yeah, don't think about that. No,
Speaker 2: And while at the same time, the case is falling
Speaker 2: apart because the cover has been blown, deities onto them,
Speaker 2: so it's building to a to a crescendo, which of
Speaker 2: course becaus the cliffhanger at the right.
Speaker 1: Finally we remember that we have a case, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, And Mark Evin Jackson finally says, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: what am I paying for now? We saw him.
Speaker 2: After he meets thirty days. It's been thirty days.
Speaker 1: Why weren't you asking after fifteen? You know? But whatever,
Speaker 1: and you know, so it looks like we're getting a
Speaker 1: resolution to the case next week. But meanwhile, it was
Speaker 1: I'll just let my husband sum it up. Part Way
Speaker 1: through the episode, he said, this is a depressing episode.
Speaker 1: It was just a lot of it. Let's philosophize about aging.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about my wife and her tragic decline, and
Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about my son and our broken relationship.
Speaker 1: And that reminds me about my daughter in a broken Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's just like if Mike Suore comes out with
Speaker 1: a book on aging after this, then all will be revealed.
Speaker 1: I think he just got into this and said, ooh interesting, right,
Speaker 1: this some interesting things to say about this. Let's just
Speaker 1: dwell on this for seven of our eight episodes, six
Speaker 1: maybe six yikes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. That confrontation between Calbert and his son was yes,
Speaker 2: youch ouch, yeah, and calvit's just like parents and kids,
Speaker 2: isn't that what he said?
Speaker 1: His parents and kids? Man, parents and kids and kids.
Speaker 1: And shortly thereafter the next scene he cuts to the
Speaker 1: two of them in an uber and Charles realizing who
Speaker 1: the solving the mystery in his head?
Speaker 2: Right, so does it have something to do with parents
Speaker 2: and kids?
Speaker 1: Man, parents and kids?
Speaker 2: Right? I hope it's not Calbert. He's such a nice man. Yes,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, we're spending an awful lot of time
Speaker 1: with this dude that would generally suggest that he's guilty.
Speaker 2: Well, and also, like you know, Calbert decides that he's
Speaker 2: not going to move to Singapore with his son, yeah,
Speaker 2: because now he has friends here. Well his friend is Charles,
Speaker 2: and Charles is supposed to be moving out the next day,
Speaker 2: so right, Oh, and is also a fraud. But yeah,
Speaker 2: well I wanted to end with you know, solving the
Speaker 2: crime and someone we don't care about, and Charles is like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to stay. I like it here.
Speaker 1: That seems to be It's hard to see how there's
Speaker 1: a season two without that being there.
Speaker 2: Yes, he needs to stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although I guess he could go home and then
Speaker 1: season two could start with him coming back. But it
Speaker 1: seems like just set him up with a job to
Speaker 1: be security. They've been on Dedie's back to provide security.
Speaker 1: Let him be the security guy and we'll see if
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: But I don't know it thought that.
Speaker 1: Whole thing of her, of Julie, like as his daughter,
Speaker 1: pulling him out of this place abruptly and using as
Speaker 1: the excuse he didn't love the people, right, that's kind
Speaker 1: of that's gonna our sting if that's right, and it's
Speaker 1: suspect it seems done necessarily, yeah, because he didn't seem
Speaker 1: to not love.
Speaker 2: The people right right.
Speaker 1: If they said that about Elliott, I guess maybe, but still,
Speaker 1: I mean, he seems like a cantankerous fellow.
Speaker 2: Leaning hard on that Elliott punched him. They really are.
Speaker 1: But it reminded me of like a mom getting our
Speaker 1: kid out of a daycare. You know, he didn't get
Speaker 1: along with the other children, and that one child punched
Speaker 1: him in the face. So we're just gonna go. We're
Speaker 1: just taking him out, and the daycare person is like, wait, wait, wait, no,
Speaker 1: there's paperwork, there's interviews, there's you know, we have to
Speaker 1: talk about this. No, no, I'm just pulling him today,
Speaker 1: right goodbye.
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, so my mom, as you
Speaker 2: might have gathered, you know, very confident, you know, type
Speaker 2: a ambitious, you know, very oh my god, just like
Speaker 2: the dogs are, you know, very like she knows what
Speaker 2: she wants, she knows how to get it. I mean
Speaker 2: she's she's not at all mean, but she's you know,
Speaker 2: she just this is the way things need to be,
Speaker 2: and we're going to make sure they are. So when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, I took dance lessons and I
Speaker 2: was terrible, and you know, eventually it was like this
Speaker 2: is this is silly. We're not gonna keep doing this.
Speaker 2: But this dance teacher who ran the dance school, my
Speaker 2: mom was so intimidated by, like she's the only person
Speaker 2: I can think.
Speaker 3: Of in my entire life that my mom was like,
Speaker 3: I'm scared of her, and she just like wrote a
Speaker 3: note withdrawing me from the school and like slipped it
Speaker 3: in her mailbox in the dark.
Speaker 2: She was just like, I can't I can't face that one.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm scared of her. It was it was
Speaker 2: a whole scene.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I feel like my mom had some situations
Speaker 1: like that at various times that she could be very
Speaker 1: uh you know, I was. She didn't want to make conflict,
Speaker 1: but I was her, yeah project, and so she would
Speaker 1: get up the nerve.
Speaker 2: It's uh yeah, I mean I think they probably could
Speaker 2: have handled it better. Yeah, the withdrawal, but perhaps we'll
Speaker 2: see how that helped. I mean, but Charles didn't know
Speaker 2: about any of this right because no was off on
Speaker 2: his adventure with Calvert, so he had no idea until
Speaker 2: he came back that Julie was pulling him out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Very impressive operation though, that she had everything coordinated,
Speaker 1: that if Dede called the office, they the secretary knew
Speaker 1: that the assistant whenever she is her job, knew to
Speaker 1: give the which lie to give, and that even Emily,
Speaker 1: the real Emily had a screw right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had fake websites set up they had Yeah,
Speaker 2: they they covered their tracks.
Speaker 1: They did that was impressive and perhaps unrealistically done.
Speaker 2: And they're professionals.
Speaker 1: Yes. My husband was like, well, how did Emily get
Speaker 1: that script? And I said, well, the assistant must have
Speaker 1: sent it to her when it was clear there was
Speaker 1: going to be a problem, or maybe just because it
Speaker 1: had up to date information about him being pulled out,
Speaker 1: so it couldn't have been just something they gave her,
Speaker 1: said justin king.
Speaker 2: And they knew they were going to NAPA and there
Speaker 2: in a.
Speaker 1: State of signing her own name when the other girl
Speaker 1: wasn't there. So well, because she didn't know at that
Speaker 1: point he was not there. Wasn't it after he got
Speaker 1: punched though, so she didn't know it that?
Speaker 2: Oh maybe didn't she?
Speaker 1: I can't. I think it's just if you are not
Speaker 1: a professional operative, you don't think it all the way,
Speaker 1: so you would you know to like although she was
Speaker 1: very good at lying, but I guess she just never
Speaker 1: thought about her signature. Yeah, at any rate, she blew
Speaker 1: their She blew their cover and uh there was that.
Speaker 1: Uh parenting wise, Charles told that terrible story about his
Speaker 1: wife not remembering her favorite dish and only remembering the
Speaker 1: thing from when she was right, and you know that
Speaker 1: was very hard. But also the thing about here I
Speaker 1: present you with your favorite dish and the person saying no,
Speaker 1: I want apples and peanut but is.
Speaker 2: Very oh for sure, yes, every mom.
Speaker 1: Is going, yeah, well this story is tragic. But I
Speaker 1: have had that happen to me about twenty times.
Speaker 2: Yes, when they decide.
Speaker 1: Mom, I don't want this thing you just made because
Speaker 1: I demanded it. I just want a peanut butter.
Speaker 2: And they just decide that they absolutely love X Y
Speaker 2: Z and so you lay in a huge stockpile of
Speaker 2: it and then I hate it, Like what now I'm
Speaker 2: going to be eating all these granola bars or whatever.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: So at both ends of life, you can I'm dealing
Speaker 1: with that apparently. Yike.
Speaker 2: Poor Charles, Poor Charles, poor Charles's wife too, because.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, yeah, we heard the story about how they
Speaker 1: met all and just uh it was really the whole
Speaker 1: The whole storyline with him and Calvert was very sweet
Speaker 1: and melancholy, but not often they had a that was
Speaker 1: very nice. I enjoyed watching all of that. That actor
Speaker 1: who's who's playing that character is very bright and they
Speaker 1: make an interesting contrast in human right. But there was
Speaker 1: a one line somewhere where somebody said, every great thing
Speaker 1: in your life, looking back on it feels like a mirror.
Speaker 1: And I've had that feeling as a parent, just in
Speaker 1: terms of how my family came together and how different
Speaker 1: things that looked like they were going to be the
Speaker 1: end of the world wound up transpiring and really does
Speaker 1: sort of amaze you on everything how things turn out.
Speaker 1: So they should need to bring over Charlie from Law,
Speaker 1: you know, from Lost, and say, look, man, you know
Speaker 1: things look darker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you never know, you never know.
Speaker 1: They might get there, right, But it's possible to take
Speaker 1: you to a baseball game.
Speaker 2: Either way.
Speaker 1: It's going to look like a Marica when you look bad,
Speaker 1: perhaps a darkness.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I anyway, so now we have one more left.
Speaker 2: What are we What are we thinking? Do you have
Speaker 2: any theories?
Speaker 1: I did not have a theory. And then I made
Speaker 1: this mistake of reading a Reddit review of this episode
Speaker 1: and somebody said, I've only watched this episode, I don't
Speaker 1: know how it ends, but this is what I think,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, so I won't share
Speaker 1: it because I didn't come up with it and because
Speaker 1: it kind of ruined. Yeah, although this person did not
Speaker 1: know it was not a spoiler. It was just their guests.
Speaker 2: But it's like it seemed a very plaus like a reasonable.
Speaker 1: Yes, bouncing off from parents and kids man parents. So
Speaker 1: we shall see if that is it. I will reveal this, okay, ones,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, I at one point
Speaker 1: thought I would like Susan to be the thief because
Speaker 1: she is so incredible.
Speaker 2: President Susan Terry.
Speaker 1: President Susan President. Yes, yes, yes, President Susan, Thief President Susan,
Speaker 1: but probably not. And she seems to be have have
Speaker 1: quite enough to do without that, right, And I don't
Speaker 1: think it's dudy. No, So she seemed she seemed genuinely
Speaker 1: flum mixed by the whole thing of what is going
Speaker 1: on with Charles, right, didn't she didn't seem like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, they're going to catch me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like she's like, I'm catching I'm catching them
Speaker 2: because I'm looking out for my he is messing with
Speaker 2: I'm looking out for my seniors. I don't want anybody
Speaker 2: to mess with them. And of course we found out,
Speaker 2: as we predicted that she would turn down the corporate
Speaker 2: job because she loves her people.
Speaker 1: So yeah, although when you're talking about theft, maybe saying
Speaker 1: it's more rewarding to stay here was not.
Speaker 2: The yeah I gotta stay here where all the good
Speaker 2: jewels are.
Speaker 1: That didn't necessarily negate what this person was saying. But okay,
Speaker 1: we know what you mean, babe, we know what you mean.
Speaker 1: And so how will it? So do you have a theory?
Speaker 2: I don't really, I'm not good at predicting these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have more people that I would want it
Speaker 1: not to be. Yeah, maybe somebody just came in from
Speaker 1: came in from the stre Yeah, there we go. Somebody
Speaker 1: was walking round.
Speaker 2: Well, they don't seem to have very type security on
Speaker 2: as to who can come in and out. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: they don't even have like a person posted at the door.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have a door.
Speaker 2: I mean they do have like a sign in, but yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not very aggressive about like who are you and
Speaker 2: why are you here?
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah that's been noted before, right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We shall see. So it's the season finale, The spy
Speaker 2: who came in from the cold.
Speaker 1: Next Wednesday, Francisco, that's true.
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