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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the One on one Podcast with your host

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another episode of the One on one Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host. As always, make sure check out the

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<v Speaker 2>the main ones demonetized permanently, so that's Jue on one

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<v Speaker 2>and make sure to check out the Occult despond all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. What's up, dude?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Man? Yo? What have any other YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>I got demonetized?

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<v Speaker 2>They got demonetized?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro sucks, that's the follow the other one. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know you made it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the money that mattered. It's more of like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a shadow band. You know, once you get

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<v Speaker 2>pinged discoverability, and every discoverability is already bad as is, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's already dog shit as is, it just gets

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<v Speaker 2>even worse whenever they you have that on the channel.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got hit for praising terrorist organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro. Wow, yeah, so I got I'm sure that was

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<v Speaker 1>taken out of context one hundred percent, one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>going off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I got hit with that. And since it

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<v Speaker 2>was that particular guideline that I broke, YouTube was straight

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<v Speaker 2>up like, yeah, there's permanently demon honetized. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's awesome, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still putting commercials in your stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. Bro, that fucked up, that is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't get a cut of.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll tell me I have episodes ineligible for shit because

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<v Speaker 1>his music is something in there and they still fucking

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<v Speaker 1>put commercials in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, Bro, that's how it is. Ran do as I say,

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<v Speaker 2>not as I do. But Yo, before we get into it,

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<v Speaker 2>plug your stuff. Where can people find you? All Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Nick from the Occult Rejects, Welcome to the show for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I think officially.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah, the Occult Rejects. That's on bit shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>Rumble and YouTube. Just talking about YouTube and all major podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>And we do have the Occult Research Institute dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a website, Thank you very much, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put the links in the description. But dude, yea,

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<v Speaker 2>why the Cult Rejects what happened. Tell us a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about your story, x OTO, what got you into

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<v Speaker 2>all that?

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<v Speaker 1>Originally? I guess the other whole rejects and even the

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<v Speaker 1>pearole thing is probably because like originally when we started

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<v Speaker 1>the show, I was Exoto and my co host was

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly ex Golden Dorn or maybe aymore, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was into the stuff. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we started to call like we were playing around, being like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to come up with a name for the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I had it hit him on my

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<v Speaker 1>show a few times. We started talking about doing our

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<v Speaker 1>own show, and I think it was mostly because for

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<v Speaker 1>me it was more of like we didn't I felt

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't fit in in the OTO. I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a reject there, you know, I didn't belong And I

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<v Speaker 1>also awmed that kind of really down with. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that the places ran so I thought when toly arnesw

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<v Speaker 1>and Lux came up with the name, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's perfect. So I mean, I guess kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>being reject like he he didn't fit in, or he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think he belonged, he wasn't down with kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of how mad is normally used nowadays. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, we're considered rejects. We're not down,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess with the club, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's a little different. And plus, like I

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<v Speaker 1>do think one of the major things is not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that others are wrong. I do believe you might even

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<v Speaker 1>say this yourself. One symbolism could have like seven different meanings,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. But I do think that we try to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it a little bit differently than other people

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<v Speaker 1>do as well, So I even think that makes any sense,

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit, not a reject, but just different.

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<v Speaker 2>More like a retard. Right, Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna that's gonna be my next podet the cult Retards.

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<v Speaker 2>We should do a show like that and just think

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But did he go back? Did you're old?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he go back into the organization or you just

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<v Speaker 2>fizzled out or what real life happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, it's just it's a long old story.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you don't have to tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just yeah, no, no, it just didn't work out anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he eventually left, and then I just pulled

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<v Speaker 1>some magic out of my ass. I guess and still

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<v Speaker 1>it happened and eventually built it up to what it

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<v Speaker 2>So what got you to join the OTO? Because, right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that I have a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>who hit me up who are always asking me about

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<v Speaker 2>the occult and at the esoteric and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people I never made the jump,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of people make the jump and they

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<v Speaker 2>joined the Resocrusions or the OTO or you know, more

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<v Speaker 2>commonly the Freemasons. Right, that's a common one, easy because

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<v Speaker 2>they feel like they're going to get access to some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of knowledge or their promise something. But what got

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<v Speaker 2>you to join the OTO?

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<v Speaker 1>I was I got into conspiracies like around twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and I heavily gravitated towards like Jordan Maxwell, David Ike,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly a cult as well or into I guess talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the occult and studying and you know whatever teaching

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<v Speaker 1>people about it. So I was like heavily into that

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<v Speaker 1>and did believe that there's something behind and eventually just

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<v Speaker 1>this is just for me. Like eventually I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm learning world, these orders are what country they started in?

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<v Speaker 1>Who supposedly started it, and then you're gonna mind fuck

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<v Speaker 1>all that as well. And then I'm like, I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the fuck magic is? What the I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten anyway except for just following dates, names and lodges.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is magic? So I was like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me see if I can find one of these places,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're buying me. I am in New York at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and I was in Queens, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's probably some weird shit out here. So

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<v Speaker 1>I started looking for the Golden Dawn because believe in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would have been a little bit more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in that. I will say I think Crowley is in

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<v Speaker 1>a cult genius, but I also think he was a degenerate,

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<v Speaker 1>So I really wasn't looking to join the OTO at first.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no Golden Down near me. Uh. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go for like Temple a Set or the Church

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<v Speaker 1>of Satan. I was looking for more of something that

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<v Speaker 1>was more like ceremonial magic and kind of a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more strict, which is why I wanted to pick

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<v Speaker 1>the Golden Down. So I was like, well, let me

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<v Speaker 1>see if there's an notes there was one twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes away from my house. I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I guess that's what it is, because like

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<v Speaker 1>even with the Freemasons, I knew Freemasons, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just their experience. They said, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into like actual, like that type of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to stay around for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Before they even talk about that, They're like Golden Dorn

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<v Speaker 1>or Oto, you're obviously going in because you want to

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<v Speaker 1>practice ceremonial magic. I mean, it's so blatant, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, that's what they talk about. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, the Mason's obviously probably isn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to work for me. So I looked up, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>found the Oto, and you know, these places they're really

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<v Speaker 1>not that secret. They have websites that will like advertise

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<v Speaker 1>where the lodges are, and they all have social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like I found to Hoodi Lodge, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the lodge I used to go to. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>found it on Facebook. I think I had a link

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<v Speaker 1>for it on the website, and then they had like

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<v Speaker 1>a calendar of like events and an email and I

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<v Speaker 1>checked it out and I was like, oh, the Gnostic

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<v Speaker 1>Man I'll try that, and I went and uh, six

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<v Speaker 1>years later finally left. But yeah, it was more of

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<v Speaker 1>because I actually wanted to know, like what's really going

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<v Speaker 1>on in these things, like what kind of stuff do

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<v Speaker 1>they practice? Did they study? You know, prior to that,

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<v Speaker 1>already started getting into kind of like Thelemic style stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least the heck you know, the hexagram ritol

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<v Speaker 1>and the pentagram ritol, which was used by the Oto

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<v Speaker 1>and Golden Dorn and a lot of secret societies, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, suggested by the Oto. So I had already

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<v Speaker 1>had experience with like some of the things that they

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<v Speaker 1>would use. So then eventually I was like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to actually go to a place and see

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<v Speaker 1>what's really going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm stuck in this place recently where it's like, right, conspiracies,

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<v Speaker 2>the cult, it's kind of the same thing, Right, can

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<v Speaker 2>we control entities? Are their entities? Religion itself is a conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's people still debating the legitimacy of quite

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<v Speaker 2>literally everything is magic real, Nick. I know you've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about like the whole neodethic space sperience and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>crossing the abyss and things of that nature. But is

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<v Speaker 2>it a real thing? Is it putting yourself in a

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<v Speaker 2>state of mind to believe what's the what's the kicker man?

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<v Speaker 2>What have you figured it out so far in this journey?

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout throughout That's a good way to put it. Throughout

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<v Speaker 1>my journey. My idea of magic has changed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do think there's probably ways that you can look at

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<v Speaker 1>magic in different ways. And I think the first two

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<v Speaker 1>is probably more of what the public seems to think

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<v Speaker 1>it is. There's that magic where it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>that book The Secret or I'm just gonna tell myself

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's gonna happen. I'm gonna keep thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you almost pre program yourself to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>put yourself to get where you want to go, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Where people will like almost like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like reevalue. They constantly tell them like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get that car. I'm gonna get that car, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like stupid shit like that, like self helpation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I do believe there is something to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's just a very basic, low level type

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that these these people are just started practicing yoga

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, going about for hours. You know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. But sit I'm sure there is some

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<v Speaker 1>legitimacy to that. Then, like when I started really getting

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<v Speaker 1>into magic, it's more of I do think, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is my opinion. If you want to, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually control to an extent the world around you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a lot of what people seem

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<v Speaker 1>to think is magic. I'm gonna do something that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to create a change in the environment around me, that

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<v Speaker 1>is true. But I do think that that is solely

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<v Speaker 1>just black magic. Unfortunately. That's just my opinion, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to change the will of something around in

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<v Speaker 1>that's my opinion, and I do think that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be even when it comes to conspiracies. People just seem

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<v Speaker 1>to think that that's kind of in my opinion, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, people seem to think that that is like

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe for work I wanted to make a talisman.

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<v Speaker 1>So my job went better, but like really trite, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was always to change me. Actually, will I be

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<v Speaker 1>my speech to get what I want? It was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but still again I'm affecting them, but I'm really focusing.

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<v Speaker 2>More on you.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a fucking loop.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>You're bullshitting yourself. You know what I'm saying. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit yourself about how to make sense of this. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>started doing rituals and prayers to God. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know the answers, no matter what I have to do,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know the answers. Who are you? What's God?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the after life? What's out there? I was totally

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<v Speaker 1>But eventually it started to become a lot more where

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<v Speaker 1>I was focusing on me and only me again, Like

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<v Speaker 1>a different energy like again, I'm an aries and you

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<v Speaker 1>You know obviously I need sometimes I might need some balance,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And I know that, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would try to work. You know, I would work

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with like a a venus, you know, or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You love beauty, patience maybe you know, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I would try to change myself. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was my opinion, real real magic and just dragging this

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<v Speaker 1>all out for my opinion is is you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I've said to you before is to separate I think,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that's really kind of what I think

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<v Speaker 2>Getting there is the is the kicker right as to

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<v Speaker 2>write deep meditation, substances, whatever it may be for think.

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<v Speaker 1>You just want to add, whenever I did have magical

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<v Speaker 1>experiences was before I started smoking weed again, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was sober. So I just want to say there was

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<v Speaker 1>no drugs when I've had these experiences used that will.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, fasting is powerful too, right like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, I have done some forms of fasting. I have

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<v Speaker 1>done that. But I'm just saying drug wise. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, But the being sober and the fast thing

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard, you know, brings forth these changes, these experiences. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna contact God or be in the presence

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<v Speaker 2>of God, need to be purified to a certain extent. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>how many people can do that, That's true, not many people.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you eliminate fifty percent of the people who

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<v Speaker 2>can't fast right or whatever it is for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the discipline on top of that eliminate half

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<v Speaker 2>of those people that you can't even do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But for example, like the whole conspiracy crowd, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you see it. I think we've talked about it before,

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<v Speaker 2>where when something happens in the super Bowl or something

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere with Trump or anywhere, it's it's a rich wal

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<v Speaker 2>look at that thirty three blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even get down with that stuff anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you think that there is something to that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because sometimes it's weird, Like for example, yesterday I did

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<v Speaker 2>an episode in the Info Wars egals thirty three and

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<v Speaker 2>Brian White or whatever the dude's name was equals thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three and that was the dell was just murdered from

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<v Speaker 2>Info Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>I yes, you stuff like that, for sure, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just just certain things that like is retarded. How could

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<v Speaker 1>I put it this way? If unless you're a freemason

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<v Speaker 1>and you've done the third degree initiation, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go on and tell people something you just watched

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<v Speaker 1>on TV it was a third degree initiation? You don't

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<v Speaker 1>fucking know. Yeah, people going on saying the Mike Tyson

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<v Speaker 1>if I was a third degree initiation? Are you a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Mason? And dumbe the fuck are you telling people?

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<v Speaker 1>You have no idea?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard I've heard people say that, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're actually a freemason and gone through the third degree,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you telling thousands of people that's what that is?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a joke. You have a lot of that going on.

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<v Speaker 1>People who have never stopped into a temple or stepped

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<v Speaker 1>into a ring or telling people what the fuck's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in those things and they have zero clue.

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<v Speaker 2>But people love it though Mick and people believe it

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Silly and people actually try to like tell you science

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<v Speaker 1>and real shit get blown off. It was like that's boring. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I had to make up like sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>stories to keep it interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that's that's the society that we live in.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's all about I'm serious, though, bro, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>what people want nowadays, Like I'll just talk about aliens. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the homuncious is another one. I can't prove to you

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<v Speaker 2>that I was real. No, I can't prove to you

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not real. Right, So, like we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Still I think you're onto something. There is something with it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's plenty of stories you can read about it, right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>but the are is the magic is the colt or

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<v Speaker 2>you know these aspects you're you're talking about like shaping

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and going through this experience, is it all part

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<v Speaker 2>of your brain? Like is this different facets of your psyche?

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<v Speaker 2>Like is it different aspects of yourself? Because like that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the self help stuff in my opinion works

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<v Speaker 2>and this sounds really stupid, but the whole being in

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<v Speaker 2>the right mindset, I've had that work for me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have a video of me manifesting that fish that's

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<v Speaker 2>right there on my wall with that picture there. The

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<v Speaker 2>biggest fish I've ever caught to this day, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>it was weird because the the day before, me and

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<v Speaker 2>my boy always go to this lake.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the biggest lakes in Central Florida, Lake Tohoe,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a hard lake. It's they do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of tournaments out there, like all the

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<v Speaker 2>pros fish it and it's a it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>hard lake, right, It's you know, however, many hundred acres

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of times they would go we'd not

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<v Speaker 2>have like good luck, right, he would be out there

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<v Speaker 2>for brough. Fun fact, I started doing fishing videos before

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<v Speaker 2>I started podcasting. But you would go out for twelve

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<v Speaker 2>hours a day to try and catch a fish, and

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<v Speaker 2>when you wouldn't catch anything for twelve hours, you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell am I gonna put out? So the

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<v Speaker 2>day before and I caught all this on camera, Bro

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<v Speaker 2>was the craziest shit ever. It's on my YouTube channel somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And the day before I was, you know, telling myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna kill it tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna kill it. We're gonna have the.

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<v Speaker 2>Greatest time, the greatest fishing day ever. And when we

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<v Speaker 2>got there, bro slaying it, dog like boom and this

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<v Speaker 2>is all on camera, all in the video, slaying it,

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<v Speaker 2>slaying it. And then the last catch of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling my boy, I go, Bro, there's a giant

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<v Speaker 2>out here. Somewhere, there's a giant. He's like, yeah, Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is how you're gonna You're gonna catch

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<v Speaker 1>On the video.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, this is all on video. Like, I'm not making

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<v Speaker 2>any of this ship up. I'll send you the video.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, you're gonna catch the biggest one of

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<v Speaker 2>your life. And I'm like, yeah, bro, like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be crazy. And my speed worm it broke the

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<v Speaker 2>tail right, and I'm like, oh I and I go, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I broke the tail off this bitch. I remember the

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<v Speaker 2>words bro like and everything. I broke the tail off

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<v Speaker 2>this bitch. That's how you know it's the juice. And

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<v Speaker 2>my bow goes, yeah, that's the juice, right, and I

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<v Speaker 2>cast and I'm just slowly relating it in.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro broken and it worked and it caught the biggest one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it was like it was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that we did after a while that the tail

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<v Speaker 2>comes off and I'm like just reeling it in and

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like my lure is stuck, right because we're

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<v Speaker 2>fishing off shore and hook sets are free, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>I reel in a little bit and I set the

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<v Speaker 2>dog shit out the hook. Bro, I'm just like, boom,

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<v Speaker 2>it was something on the other end, right, And I

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<v Speaker 2>knew it was big because you hear in the video

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<v Speaker 2>my my my reel goes like it's like from how

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<v Speaker 2>much pressure's on it, and I'm like, I tell my Bum,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, oh, this is a giant because I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like, you know when you got a big fish. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, what are you talking about, bro? So again

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<v Speaker 2>all on video, I'm reeling it in and fighting this fish,

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest fish I've ever caught to this day, nine

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<v Speaker 2>points something pound almost ten pound bass. Right, It's a

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<v Speaker 2>huge bass, and my boy's helping me out. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>not to get it, you know, caught in the trolling

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<v Speaker 2>moat and everything, and it jumps out of the water

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<v Speaker 2>and we see it for the first time, bro, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I could fit my whole hand into its mouth. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my whole arm and hand into its mouth. So we

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<v Speaker 2>see this giant mind you, there's like seven boats around us.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all watching us because we were killing it that

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<v Speaker 2>day just like boom boom boom, and my boy starts.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to stay calm and my boy is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to calm me down. He's like, bro, bring it over

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<v Speaker 2>here with the net and everything, bro, and you'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll send you the video.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>The it was almost or gasmic right, like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>like you have like this feeling you see, bro, you

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<v Speaker 2>see my emotion everything in that video because but it

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<v Speaker 2>all started the day before. I was like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a good boy. I'm gonna do good

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna kill it tomorrow, right And it worked, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I don't know if I've done it again,

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<v Speaker 2>ship Like that is real. It is so I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I affected my reality in a way. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is I'm talking about this particular thing because I can

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<v Speaker 2>prove it, like I have a video, Like I have

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<v Speaker 2>a video the whole thing, and I call you know

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<v Speaker 2>the time I manifested the biggest fish I've ever caught,

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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of did, because, bro, what are the

419
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<v Speaker 2>chances that right when I'm like, I got the juice,

420
00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.599
<v Speaker 2>broke the tail off this bitch and I cast it? Yeah, bro,

421
00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and I'm really it in And then that was the

422
00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:49.680
<v Speaker 2>That was the cast. My boy had the affirmations and

423
00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:51.400
<v Speaker 2>everything ready. He's like, yeah, bro, we're gonna do it.

424
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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be the biggest one. I go, yeah, and

425
00:20:54.559 --> 00:21:01.359
<v Speaker 2>that that, Bro, that was the cast. That's crazy, it's crazy,

426
00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:05.200
<v Speaker 2>it sounds dumb, but again that it works, right.

427
00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:10.599
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. That's like a cool experience to have. Good

428
00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:11.160
<v Speaker 1>for you, man.

429
00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:14.279
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that that was the the last fish of

430
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<v Speaker 2>the day that we had. Con Then I took pictures

431
00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:18.960
<v Speaker 2>with it, I took measurements, and I went home, bro,

432
00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:19.920
<v Speaker 2>because what are you gonna do? Then?

433
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

434
00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:25.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, like, nothing to do now?

435
00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:28.359
<v Speaker 2>You got that high, right, So if you're catch anything else,

436
00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to even be uh remotely even close to.

437
00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Hole after that one.

438
00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>So again, what I was saying, telling yourself, is it

439
00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:42.720
<v Speaker 2>part of your your psyche? Is it part of your mind?

440
00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Are these things that you're tapping into because you were

441
00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:49.759
<v Speaker 2>talking about shifting between different energies and different facets of

442
00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:51.680
<v Speaker 2>like hey, this day I'm gonna invoke Venus or this

443
00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.359
<v Speaker 2>day I'm gonna invoke Saturn. What if that's just like,

444
00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:56.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, a Youngian approach of these are different parts

445
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<v Speaker 2>of our own selves.

446
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<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, I do believe that. Actually I do believe that.

447
00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:05.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean I even when I would work on certain

448
00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:07.799
<v Speaker 1>things like that, I would look at like what am

449
00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I doing and what do I want to stop doing?

450
00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, I would acknowledge that maybe certain aspects of

451
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.640
<v Speaker 1>my personality believe it or not, as cheesy as it sounds,

452
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<v Speaker 1>And I have said this to people and on the show,

453
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<v Speaker 1>and I mean I because of being you know, whatever mandated.

454
00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I have done some like I've been to AA and

455
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.839
<v Speaker 1>rehebs before in the past, but it's almost like doing

456
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<v Speaker 1>like a fourth step from AA. I would say, like

457
00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:34.519
<v Speaker 1>if you actually wrote, well, if you filled that out

458
00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and did that and kind of like did it to

459
00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:40.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself and really looked at yourself like that, that is

460
00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot like shadow work and kind of what magicians

461
00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:47.119
<v Speaker 1>are doing. Believe it or not. You look at that

462
00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:48.720
<v Speaker 1>shit and you're gonna want to change it about yourself

463
00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:50.079
<v Speaker 1>and you're going start trying to figure out ways to

464
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<v Speaker 1>do it.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that what the TikTok uh psychic say?

466
00:22:55.119 --> 00:23:03.519
<v Speaker 1>I hate that phrase right because right away, and I'm like, oh.

467
00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Because the it was Crawley right that said that the

468
00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:12.440
<v Speaker 2>goatia is a part of yourself. I don't know exactly where.

469
00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Originally he thought it was part of the aspects of

470
00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the brain, which I do. I do believe it is,

471
00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I think I don't. It wasn't like they

472
00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:21.960
<v Speaker 1>put out a new book, or maybe they did, maybe

473
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>they edited it, or he said it in another book

474
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.759
<v Speaker 1>that one of his other released that thinks it's both

475
00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>that they could be, which I find interesting because that's

476
00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:32.279
<v Speaker 1>actually what I think sometimes pulled the guy saw. I

477
00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:34.400
<v Speaker 1>do think it's something you're creating, but then it ends

478
00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>up creating the world around you. So I could see

479
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:40.799
<v Speaker 1>the goystias still being that it's in your head, but

480
00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe it does actually manifest in reality. There's a way,

481
00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:47.519
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying within the cult is you

482
00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:49.359
<v Speaker 1>never understand what the fuck they're really saying. Let's they

483
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:50.519
<v Speaker 1>get specific. That's why.

484
00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:55.599
<v Speaker 2>And unless you're you're you're initiated, right, I mean, that's

485
00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:58.400
<v Speaker 2>the whole aspect, but he does he thinks it could

486
00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:01.319
<v Speaker 2>be both all aspects of the mind, or they could

487
00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:05.039
<v Speaker 2>be real. But he also did write that some people's

488
00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:08.279
<v Speaker 2>will is to have their will bent to your own will.

489
00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 2>So sometimes no means yes. Right, So he was weird.

490
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was into some some stuff, but he

491
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:20.319
<v Speaker 2>did expose expose a lot of things, right, And I think.

492
00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:23.079
<v Speaker 1>That's what I think is weird that it to tell you, like,

493
00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:24.880
<v Speaker 1>even his story is kind of like weird if you

494
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>think about it, Like he originally came out kind of

495
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:31.400
<v Speaker 1>like exposing magic. I mean, that's why he put out

496
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>all that Golden Dawn stuff. He was pretty much saying, like,

497
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 1>this is what it's about, and I think everybody should

498
00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.880
<v Speaker 1>be privy to it. That's actually how he first started,

499
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and everyone was like, oh my god, he's releasing all

500
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>these rituals. Yeah, technically he was releasing shit he wasn't

501
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:45.519
<v Speaker 1>supposed to technically.

502
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.200
<v Speaker 2>But wasn't it Regardi that put put out the OTO stuff.

503
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 1>No, all those libras were his, I mean Regard he

504
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.799
<v Speaker 1>might have put out some, but certain libs though those

505
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>are all Crawley, a lot of them.

506
00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:01.440
<v Speaker 2>But because the way I've understood. Is I think it

507
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>was Royce or somebody went to him and told him

508
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 2>that he had he had unintentionally revealed. Do we know

509
00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:09.440
<v Speaker 2>what that was?

510
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>No? No, actually, but it's something in the Book of.

511
00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:15.799
<v Speaker 2>The Law, something in the Book of the Law.

512
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:18.559
<v Speaker 1>I actually think the Book of the Laws is my opinion,

513
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is all focusing on the eyeball in.

514
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>The brain perception.

515
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, actually how it works and everything too. Really yeah,

516
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean you even think you believe in that had

517
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>is a playoff for Dha, which is something inside your eyeball,

518
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>as well as fish.

519
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 2>And God, isn't it?

520
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh, God would be the god. Yeah. Yeah. Even even

521
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the stella of revelation, in my opinion, looks like an eyeball,

522
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 1>and it looks like the cones and the rods that

523
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>are in there and all that shit. So what say

524
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that again, the stella of revelation. Yeah, there's even stuff

525
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in his rituals that he does that, in my opinion,

526
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 1>is pointing to the pineal glen. Like. I hate to

527
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>say it, but I do think the guy understood the eyeball.

528
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Stella of on and.

529
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:06.519
<v Speaker 1>F and cons of coffin consu or the stellia of revelation,

530
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, either one of those cough Conso, yeah, he

531
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>thought he was that too, was cons he thought he

532
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>was Edward Kelly.

533
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, this thing here, yes, so what

534
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>are we looking at? You said that it's like the eyeball.

535
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do think that's part of it. I mean,

536
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:26.559
<v Speaker 1>it's be hard to get into, but those are like

537
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the same things on the bottom. You see that that

538
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:31.039
<v Speaker 1>thing that's spinning kind of that. You got a lot

539
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>of the cones and the rods in your eyeball of

540
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.559
<v Speaker 1>the same color. I do you think that might be

541
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like the back of the eyeball.

542
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:43.799
<v Speaker 2>So this is interesting because John Dee was into optics

543
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:48.000
<v Speaker 2>as well, and he was he was into a lot

544
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.160
<v Speaker 2>of things, but he had this thing called katroptics, which

545
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>was pretty much being able to turn your soul into

546
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 2>a mirror of sorts, right, I mean, and that's interesting

547
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>because it's got to do with the stella raised and

548
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>things of that nature where they say everything is emitting light, right,

549
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.160
<v Speaker 2>We're all light beings or light is coming out from

550
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.759
<v Speaker 2>us and the way that our light interact that's an

551
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 2>aw chemical reaction. And you're also able to snuff out

552
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 2>the light of something else and use that light for

553
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:24.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, use the energy of that light for purposes, right,

554
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and sacrifice, et cetera, things of this nature. And I

555
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.359
<v Speaker 2>forgot where it was that I saw something about like

556
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>an upside down eye. Stuff. I'd have to find I

557
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 2>probably did an episode on a long time ago, but

558
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:42.599
<v Speaker 2>I've seen this before. Where But here's my problem, because

559
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>when I think of the occult, a lot of the times,

560
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these guys that were exposing it, right,

561
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.640
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying he almost had like a sort.

562
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Of it's kind of like, I'm not saying like he

563
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>was a good guy. I'm just saying that's kind of

564
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.079
<v Speaker 1>how his story is, which I find weird. I just

565
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:58.599
<v Speaker 1>find that even weird to begin with.

566
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was exposing it but got wrapped up in

567
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 2>it at the same time, right, like, because his whole

568
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>thing was against the being against the church, right, he

569
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.319
<v Speaker 2>hated the church because allegedly what they had done to

570
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 2>his father and stuff. So he had like this deeply.

571
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 1>He even had like a magical experience and then stops

572
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking with magic for a few years and then came back.

573
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>And he even did that when he was younger.

574
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I mean there was even that too, which

575
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I find interesting. Where'd you go?

576
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Because a lot of the guys that write about the occult,

577
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.519
<v Speaker 2>and this is where I'm struggling, because, for example, the Gatia, right,

578
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 2>you have John Veayer who wrote the pseudo Monarchiam Demonum,

579
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.319
<v Speaker 2>where it was supposed to be satire, supposed to be,

580
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.680
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, a work of fiction. It was supposed

581
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.680
<v Speaker 2>to be making fun of people. Or is the satire

582
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>part of the occult, But sometimes I think the occult

583
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>is occulting the fact that it's gay, fake and gay,

584
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, and that it's not not really.

585
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Secrets right there?

586
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.039
<v Speaker 2>You get what I'm saying though, Bro, Yeah.

587
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah, I think I think there's

588
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>plenty of rabbit holes that a toist out there too

589
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>by magicians. Yeah take this, it's faking gay, but you'll, you'll,

590
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he'll entertain you for you.

591
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. And like, what was it that I

592
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 2>was listening to something today where they were talking about

593
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I was listening to uh something on

594
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the homunculous. I was listening to Mine Unveiled's documentary which

595
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>I helped him out, the ten hour documentary on homunculus.

596
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh, damn nice.

597
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say we, but he worked on that think

598
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>for at least six months.

599
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

600
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy, and I like I helped him out right,

601
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 2>like we we give him a lot of information and

602
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. And in it he talks about how

603
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the homunculous has multiple meanings, like it's it's a multifaceted concept,

604
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and that's how I look at the occult or the occult.

605
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you might have your grasp on it of like

606
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>what it could be, and it changes real time. Bro.

607
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:01.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever had that happening where

608
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, I kind of understand this concept and

609
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:08.160
<v Speaker 2>then Mandela effect, it's something completely different.

610
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>That's actually uh. When I was working on the Eyeballs series,

611
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like one part to the next. Actually

612
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 1>corrected myself and changed like the way I was looking

613
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>at something because I was like, I think I'm completely off.

614
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was kind of close, but I just think,

615
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, so like even for me, there's times where

616
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.319
<v Speaker 1>even I'm like, ah wait, I was like I was

617
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>sold on it before. Then you learn something new and

618
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:30.319
<v Speaker 1>you're like, all right, it doesn't make sense now.

619
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like the information is alive in a sort

620
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>of like you get what I'm saying, Like it's always there,

621
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 2>it's always changing. And it was a book on Fulconelly.

622
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I think you it wasn't Eugene Consali. It was somebody

623
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 2>else that wrote this book on Fulconelly, right, I mean,

624
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 2>out of all people, this enigmatic guy Fulconelli that we're

625
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 2>still we still don't know who he was. But in

626
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>that book he talks about when you study and how

627
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 2>you're saying, you drive yourself crazy looking at it.

628
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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna change every time you look at it.

629
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<v Speaker 2>You ever had a dream where you go and read

630
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<v Speaker 2>something and it changes in front of you.

631
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It may have, I don't remember.

632
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Try and read in your next dream er. I don't

633
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>know if you if you dream, because you probably small

634
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:19.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot of weed.

635
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>But does that stup you from dream?

636
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

637
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh all right, could be the ansome. Yeah, I only

638
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 1>have dreams that much anymore.

639
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>That's why, bro, it does something to your brain where

640
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>you can't dream.

641
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>So I did it all throughout the day with my

642
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 1>eyes open exactly now, yeah, pretty much? So.

643
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they say messages with something in your brain where

644
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:45.759
<v Speaker 2>you're you're unable to dream. But I think dreams are

645
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 2>interesting because I have sometimes I had some. I actually

646
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.279
<v Speaker 2>woke up from a dream this past week where I

647
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 2>had a conversation with somebody in the dream. And sometimes

648
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the person that I see in the

649
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 2>dream is also dreaming about me talking to me their dream.

650
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I felt that before, yeah, bro, because like I even

651
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>looked stuff up after the dream to see if it

652
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>came up, but nothing came up. Like like they told me,

653
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 2>they told me a certain phrase and it was the

654
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about someone and they were like, yeah, no,

655
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>they were a debo or a devo or something, and

656
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 2>it was like it they told me it was like

657
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 2>the Indian Indian word Indian word for idiot. But I

658
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the hell they were trying to tell me.

659
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>So I looked up every which way, bro, devo, deebo,

660
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 2>d like all these things, trying to find what the

661
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 2>hell that doesn't exist? Like did I make all that up?

662
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Or was like there's some secret hidden meaning.

663
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>A secret password. Right, It's like the word you get

664
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:54.599
<v Speaker 1>into like an initiation.

665
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, Oh well they do that. Initiations give you

666
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>a word like you gotta say that, gotta say hokey pokey. Well,

667
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>when you look up the word idiot in Indian, I

668
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>mean there's really no other way around that. You just

669
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>look up the word idiot in Indian and it should

670
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 2>give you the definition. Right, So it's a beav a coof,

671
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>that's what. That's a Hindi beav a coof. But didn't

672
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see uh, beef coof beef coof, that's but

673
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see anything else. So I don't know if

674
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 2>it was something that my mind was making up because

675
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>how much of reality. There's that guy an L. Seth

676
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I think is his name, that talks about hallucination and.

677
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, yes, what is he so familiar though?

678
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I think he's been.

679
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 1>That's right? Actually, oh has he all of them? Yeah?

680
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I've actually tried to get on my show that that's

681
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 1>why he does.

682
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know if he has been.

683
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's uh yeah, I tried to get him on.

684
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>He fucks with anesthesia, does he really? Yeah? Yeah, he's

685
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I've watched some of his stuff and like, in my opinion,

686
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>this is just my opinion. I I think people can

687
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>be occultists and not be like practicing magic like people

688
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>normally would. I'll just put it that way. I think

689
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>he has an understanding and I think he realizes what's

690
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>going on with anesthesia because he does focus on that

691
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and kind of like what the fuck's really going on

692
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and how is that possible? And when you start looking

693
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>at debates that him and like a few other people,

694
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>uh Shell Drake and uh god, I fucking forgot the

695
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>other guy's name. I even have a book on name.

696
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>You listen to them three talk and it's like, Yo,

697
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.639
<v Speaker 1>you're literally talking about like magic in the abyss, trying

698
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 1>to figure out like how the fuck it makes sense.

699
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.840
<v Speaker 2>He says, we're all hallucinating all the time. When we

700
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>agree about our hallucinations, we call it reality. So he

701
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>said that this dude messes with anesthesia, Well I think.

702
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>He might have been actually involved like with that, like

703
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 1>done something with that, or at least studies with it. Yeah, yeah,

704
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 1>because like he was going on on, Uh, I'm talking

705
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>about like the effects of anesthesia, what it actually does,

706
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 1>because if you think about it, that does put you

707
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 1>out limbo, man, Like where are you going when that happens?

708
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Like what's actually going on? You know what I'm saying?

709
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 1>And like I think like that was like kind of

710
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>a thing that like spurred an idea for the guy

711
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of went with it.

712
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't it Paracelsis though, in that created anesthesia.

713
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I have no idea.

714
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Ye see here, so history apparently it's been around since

715
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>uh for a long time. But he did, I mean,

716
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>he was the father. I know he he created. I

717
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.159
<v Speaker 2>think it was. Oh yeah, he did contribute to it.

718
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So paracels and his contributions to anesthesia, he is the

719
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.079
<v Speaker 2>father of modern day toxicology essentially. So you know, the

720
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 2>dose makes the poison. If you take too much of

721
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>too much anesthesia, you die, If you take too little bit,

722
00:35:57.880 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 2>you feel every single little thing.

723
00:35:59.239 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Right.

724
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 2>But it's interesting you bring up anesthesia because I did

725
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>an episode one time on Benjamin Paul Blood where it's

726
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.239
<v Speaker 2>called The Anesthetic Revelation, and it's this book written in

727
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>eighteen something, early nineteen hundreds, and it's about a dude

728
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 2>who what you know, that they had like huffing parties

729
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 2>back then everyone would get like high on anesthesia and

730
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>everything because it was you know, it was not regulated.

731
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 2>And so what he had figured out was that at

732
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the peak of the anesthesia of this anesthetic dream state,

733
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>at the very peak of it. He understood everything in

734
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>all of of psychology and all of philosophy, all of

735
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the philosophies ever, like, he understood every single thing at

736
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.719
<v Speaker 2>the very top of it, and then you come down

737
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and then he would forget. Then he would forget, so

738
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>he would have like people writing to him, like, Bro,

739
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I understand what you're saying about unders standing in reality,

740
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>understanding the world being connected to it as soon as

741
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 2>you're at that very peak, and then you come back

742
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>down and you don't remember. And that to me is

743
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 2>almost like could there be a secret anaesthesia the fact

744
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that Paracelsus, you know, he was an alchemist, he was

745
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>into some stuff. Maybe there's something to that right as

746
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.519
<v Speaker 2>a reason for his contribution to it, because one hundred

747
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>percent who was mixing stuff up and taking it back? Then?

748
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Bro?

749
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Like that?

750
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, so if if if you go by what

751
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I say, and I think you have to almost like

752
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of bring yourself to death to have a magical experience,

753
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:36.519
<v Speaker 1>you could be fucking with that shit. I even think

754
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>this is just my opinion, why you you get some

755
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Speaker 1>grimoires that are like if you were to take that

756
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 1>shit and be poison, maybe there's a reason why Yeah,

757
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>because you kinda knock yourself.

758
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Full and there's something about that, right, So I.

759
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Mean shamans do it, yeah, put themselves under extremes until

760
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>they think they've had a near death experience.

761
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.559
<v Speaker 2>But is it a near death experience in what sense

762
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 2>as a biological death or like an ego death? Like

763
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean?

764
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh? No, I think like your body will actually think

765
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>like it's yeah, it's much more beyond just like, oh

766
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.199
<v Speaker 1>I have change now, because like no, I think that

767
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>your body actually goes through a fucking change, Like your

768
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>body is affected by it. It's not just like you

769
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>know when the people post those current the frog things

770
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>dancing thinking I had leveled up. It's not one of

771
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 1>those things.

772
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Tech the frog bro.

773
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what?

774
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I mean.

775
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I do think, you know, because I I just my opinion.

776
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I just do think. I you know, even I'm not

777
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 1>going to say it's the typical word. I mean, do

778
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 1>you think there's something behind it? I don't want to

779
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>say it because it's but even stuff in blood. I

780
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>think there is even something in blood that gets used

781
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>up or changes when you fuck with magic. You know,

782
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I think your eyeballs, you know, for me, you know,

783
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.840
<v Speaker 1>every time I fucked with magic, one my eyeball will

784
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>get bigger than the other one. One will get bigger,

785
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>one will go pinned. And I've had blood.

786
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Issues like your ear pupils.

787
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.679
<v Speaker 1>E mean yeah, my pupil will be one pupil was

788
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 1>full millimeters bigger than the other one and I had

789
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 1>to get a bag of saline and a bag of blood.

790
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>They said, my uh hemoglobe and levels like through the roof.

791
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Because you were doing are you were doing a ritual?

792
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>No, I was actually blasting off. I did it three

793
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>times in like ten days. I was a fucking mess.

794
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Bhi gone on, what nothing noice?

795
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Fucking with magic?

796
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Really? You almost died from messing with magic.

797
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 1>Like three times in a I would consider myself pretty

798
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.119
<v Speaker 1>much dying every time I've done it. And one time

799
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I got like a little crazy with it and did

800
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>it about three times in ten days and that was

801
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.039
<v Speaker 1>a fucking mental mess. The physical mess. I had to

802
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.360
<v Speaker 1>go to hospital. And shit will fuck up your head.

803
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.679
<v Speaker 2>You keep on doing it too, so it'll mess with

804
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 2>you biologically and also psychologically.

805
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, those down loads are real. The more

806
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 1>you do it, the louder they're gonna get. And the

807
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.280
<v Speaker 1>more often they're gonna come and you can't shut it off,

808
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna have to sit there and listen to it.

809
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>So are people who are.

810
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 1>People are schizophrenic? Yeah, I think they're half in there

811
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 1>and half out. Or or some guy I've seen on YouTube.

812
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.559
<v Speaker 1>I try to get him on. His name's okay, Charlie.

813
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>You go look at his stuff. This guy's going out

814
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and all over the place, caves, fucking woods here and there,

815
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 1>and he's recording stuff and he's actually finding there is

816
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>voices in the fucking ambient air. There is stuff being

817
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.559
<v Speaker 1>pumped out from somehow, So people, for all I know,

818
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.079
<v Speaker 1>people could be hearing that, or the fucking pills they're

819
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>being taken and makes them hear it anyway more susceptible

820
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 1>hearing it. But I mean, yeah, but you will hear things,

821
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, and that it's hard to explain. It's

822
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:52.519
<v Speaker 1>almost like these knowings that are so loud it's as

823
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>if they're being spoken to. I mean, it's hard to explain.

824
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that even sort of messing with this stuff

825
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>as far as like I call myself an armchair coultist,

826
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 2>where even having these books in my in my room

827
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 2>or in my space or even talking about it. I

828
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 2>think that even opens you up. And I've experienced things.

829
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced at least heavy synchronicities, like crazy, weird synchronicities.

830
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Where you get a lot of the same numbers.

831
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 2>I get a lot of the same numbers, you know,

832
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.079
<v Speaker 2>repeating numbers. But I've gotten to the point where I

833
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>laugh it off.

834
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Bro, that you're doing You're doing something right. I don't

835
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 1>think it's a bad thing.

836
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:38.559
<v Speaker 2>That's the way I see when I you know, when

837
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I have a synchronicity, it's because I'm on the right timeline.

838
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you're doing your will.

839
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:44.559
<v Speaker 2>You're doing your will.

840
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Or I think that could be like, you know,

841
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>representative of you, kind of like you know, uh, side

842
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>effects maybe if you're on the right track of doing

843
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>your own will. Maybe. Yeah.

844
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.760
<v Speaker 2>My wife makes fun of me because she'll see when

845
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I have synchronicity sometimes right like.

846
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:00.599
<v Speaker 1>You and hurt.

847
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I'll look right and I'll and I'll laugh,

848
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll just laugh at all. Well, another one

849
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 2>of your angel numbers happen again, And I'm like, first

850
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 2>of all, it's not those people give us a bad name. Man,

851
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing, bro, that she doesn't how you're

852
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 2>saying about being grounded. She takes me grounded because she

853
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't believe in ship. Like she's Christian, she doesn't not

854
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.199
<v Speaker 2>believe in anything. She believes in God and all that,

855
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>but as far as she doesn't believe in anything, as

856
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>as far as like the occult and all that stuff,

857
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the whole she knows what I talk

858
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 2>about and she doesn't really agree with all of it.

859
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.599
<v Speaker 2>So she kind of does poke poke fun at me sometimes.

860
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know, sometimes I'll be watching like her, you know,

861
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>one of her shows with her and dude, even on

862
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the show Love is Blind. I know you've seen on Netflix.

863
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've seen the memes. There's a show Love

864
00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 2>is Blind. It's like where people go into these pods

865
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 2>and they all in love with somebody on the other

866
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 2>side without ever seeing them, and it's this whole thing, right,

867
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 2>And there was this one season, dude, where one of

868
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:12.719
<v Speaker 2>the guys was boasting about being able to orgasm without coming.

869
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I can go for a long time. He's like,

870
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I went and I studied with these Buddhists in the mountains,

871
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and bro, this is like the most regular show you

872
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 2>will ever see, you know, Netflix, Like, you know, millions

873
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 2>of people watch this show. But I'm like, oh shit,

874
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this guy is into some tantric stuff,

875
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Like this guy is like in the cult, but he's

876
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 2>in the mountains.

877
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 1>The regular person thinking, was this guy a freaking We're like,

878
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 1>this guy is a freaking.

879
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I've seen him with Freemason rings on two on these shows, bro,

880
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Like the shows that you wouldn't even expect like that

881
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 2>are sometimes.

882
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.199
<v Speaker 1>They those shows are literally made up just to give

883
00:43:56.239 --> 00:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>those motherfuckers something to do and some money. But it's like, oh,

884
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 1>you're in the club, but we got to give you

885
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 1>something to do right here, showers will watch it. But

886
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>all right? Reality TV?

887
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah reality right, the hyper reality you know John Ball's

888
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.440
<v Speaker 2>yard simula simulation.

889
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, who was kind of big on first starting

890
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 1>that reality TV for us? Who Trump was one of

891
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 1>the first out there. Russian reality Yeah, yeah, people definitely.

892
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 2>But it's like these people are caricatures right when they're

893
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 2>on these shows, like they're different people. Even the concept

894
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.559
<v Speaker 2>of acting itself is a sort of a cult thing,

895
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:40.840
<v Speaker 2>you know. I obviously I have Nick Cage behind me.

896
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 2>He's talked about this sort of shamanism that he does.

897
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I did an episode with his son where Yeah, with

898
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Nick Cage's son where shout out to Western Cage where

899
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:54.920
<v Speaker 2>he told me he had to he one time he

900
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>almost got possessed, essentially, like he had to bury his

901
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>care character, bro to get rid of him from like

902
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:05.199
<v Speaker 2>being inside of him.

903
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

904
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 2>These people are opening up themselves too, God knows what.

905
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what I did? You know you went to

906
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>David Lynch at all the Twin Peaks and stuff like that.

907
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've Oh, I think I've gotten up to season

908
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 2>the end of season two, but I won't be honest

909
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:24.800
<v Speaker 2>with you, Bro, I haven't seen the whole thing. I

910
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen the movie. I'm right before going into where

911
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I can watch the first movie of the Devil Walks

912
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:34.079
<v Speaker 2>with Me or whatever it was Firewalking.

913
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna be honest.

914
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 2>With you, Nick, and shout out to Isaac Wisehaw because

915
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 2>he goes hard in the pain. When it comes to

916
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Twin Peaks, I don't see the hype.

917
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can understand that.

918
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't see the hype behind that.

919
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Second season kind of sucked too.

920
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 2>I thought the second season, No, the first season is

921
00:45:56.239 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>an initiation if you can grind through that. Yeah, you're ready.

922
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Second season, getting towards the end, getting kind of weird

923
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 2>right towards the vase. He told me that I'm I'm

924
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 2>right where it's like, this is Twin Peaks. I haven't

925
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 2>finished it, but he told me that I'm there, like

926
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm at the end of season two. Then season three

927
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 2>is off the wall. Yeah, craziness, like get out of here,

928
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 2>this is this is wild, right, So but I don't

929
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.119
<v Speaker 2>understand the hype because I don't see that crazy bro like,

930
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know maybe true.

931
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 1>No, I get you on that. It's it has to

932
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 1>be I guess for you. One thing I will say,

933
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>just to give it some give the guy some slack.

934
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>The last I think like three or four episodes of

935
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>season two David Lynch did even direct, so you can

936
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 1>give him slack on that one. He had already left

937
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.079
<v Speaker 1>because he was upset the project and then came back.

938
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 1>But so something we were talking about letting things in

939
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and you were saying that Nicholas Cage's son said whatever.

940
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I was watching an interview with David Lynch and it

941
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.599
<v Speaker 1>was right after like the whole stuff. I think Weinstein,

942
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe Epstein came out and they had asked him, like

943
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.679
<v Speaker 1>his opinion on that. He really didn't say much about it,

944
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>but he was just saying that he understands that a

945
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of that's going on. And he's like, you know,

946
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 1>if how did he say it? He said something to

947
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he provides a safe place. He says,

948
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 1>you have to understand people are coming here and allowing

949
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>things to come within them. You need to provide a

950
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 1>safe place with that. And I was like, Yo, this

951
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:27.119
<v Speaker 1>dude just said what this guy's admitting, Like, like, what

952
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>do you what are you taking? Taking your character on

953
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:31.199
<v Speaker 1>and invoking it in I mean, that's.

954
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.559
<v Speaker 2>The whole that's the whole concept of Twin Peaks possession.

955
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>So I thought it was interesting that he said that. Then,

956
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>like what you were saying, allowing things into you? Sometimes

957
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I think these characters, you know, maybe might be something

958
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 1>behind them. I think that, well, I just really become

959
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 1>that character almost to an extent.

960
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.199
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't. I'm gonna be honest with you, bro, I

961
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 2>don't think I could be friends with an actor because

962
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 2>how would you know when they're being genuine not right?

963
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:01.639
<v Speaker 1>It could be just like a lion liberal, like just

964
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>fucking bullshit. In your face.

965
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 2>That's a politician, bro. I mean, politicians can tell you

966
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 2>one thing to your face and just like scam you.

967
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:11.880
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think I could be friends with with

968
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Like how would you know if that's even the real person?

969
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Like almost like you know, Nick Cage talks about it

970
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.159
<v Speaker 2>preparing himself and and you know, kind of sort of

971
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 2>method acting. And one of his latest movies that he

972
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 2>put out, uh the uh Daddy Long Legs not Daddy

973
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Long Long Legs, was kind of sort of I don't

974
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:35.239
<v Speaker 2>know if you've seen that where we gotta check that

975
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.519
<v Speaker 2>movie out, but I've heard it. It was kind of

976
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 2>crazy like that where he became. He even had like

977
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 2>special effects, like like a mask on essentially like this

978
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:47.760
<v Speaker 2>he was he wasn't truly him. But I went to

979
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 2>go see that movie in theaters, bro, and after the fact, right,

980
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what it was about on you

981
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 2>was a horror movie, but I took I took my

982
00:48:57.960 --> 00:48:58.400
<v Speaker 2>wife with me.

983
00:48:58.480 --> 00:48:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Right.

984
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 2>She was pissed because she doesn't like movies that are

985
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 2>about like possession and like demons and stuff like that.

986
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 2>She was pissed because it was about that. And I'm like, yeah,

987
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I promise you I know it was gonna be like this.

988
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have thought that that was what the movie

989
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>was about, bro, because I've seen the coming attractions this

990
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 1>movie crazy, but I didn't think that.

991
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:21.199
<v Speaker 2>When I was in the theater, like made my heart,

992
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.679
<v Speaker 2>like I felt weird, right, Like I felt weird. And

993
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this movie and at the end of the

994
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 2>movie's like heyl say and heyl say, and like this craziness, Bro,

995
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.519
<v Speaker 2>like this crazy ass shit. And then it come to

996
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:36.079
<v Speaker 2>find out there are sounds in the movie that you hear,

997
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 2>right you're talking about, like hearing your name and shit.

998
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'll hear my sometimes I hear sometimes I hear

999
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:42.760
<v Speaker 2>my name, Bro. I don't know about you, but like

1000
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll hear my name be called in the distance or something,

1001
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'll turn around there's nobody there. I don't know

1002
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.920
<v Speaker 2>if I'm if I'm skit sell yet, but I've had

1003
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>it happen to me, so uh, in this movie, there's sounds,

1004
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.559
<v Speaker 2>like the soundtrack is crazy and there's like these weird

1005
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 2>sounds that you hear. Come to find out, after I

1006
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 2>watched them, we did some research on it turns out

1007
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:11.719
<v Speaker 2>that the directors that directed the movie put backtracking in

1008
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the movie and they put sounds like messages in the

1009
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 2>movie after Like so the sounds that we were hearing

1010
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 2>were actually work. You can take it, play it backwards

1011
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:27.079
<v Speaker 2>and it was actually a message. Oh backward, yeah, backmasking,

1012
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 2>so which Crowley did and all that he was, you know,

1013
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 2>telling people to think backwards and listen to things backwards,

1014
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the Beatles and all these crazy things. I even heard

1015
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Lil Wayne sometimes that they I don't know, like the

1016
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.159
<v Speaker 2>early days of YouTube, where it was like Lil Wayne,

1017
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 2>play it backwards and you can hear a message in

1018
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 2>and it was like this whole Sometimes I think that's

1019
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.719
<v Speaker 2>like a paradolia type of thing, where you can hear

1020
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 2>things if you think that's what you're hearing.

1021
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.639
<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, some of the you know, it's funny, some

1022
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:55.639
<v Speaker 1>of the special intros that I've made for certain shows,

1023
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 1>I've actually done that to see if anybody would have

1024
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.159
<v Speaker 1>to play it backwards and be like, oh, I heard

1025
00:50:59.159 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that you put that in there?

1026
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Is that what you sent me to You're like, this

1027
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 2>is the occult? And I was like, what the fuck

1028
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:04.639
<v Speaker 2>is No, I don't.

1029
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Know if that one had to I can't remember when

1030
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I sent you, but there's a lot of the ones

1031
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 1>there is, there's stuff backwards. I'll be totally honest with you.

1032
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:13.159
<v Speaker 1>I think any prison here.

1033
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I put things in my work that I've only had

1034
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:25.320
<v Speaker 2>one person tell me that they caught it, and they hadn't.

1035
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Nobody has caught it since then, but it was only

1036
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>one guy. I don't know how he caught it, but

1037
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 2>he caught it. And I have other things that I

1038
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>haven't talked about publicly that I can show you after.

1039
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:37.119
<v Speaker 1>That's cool.

1040
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 2>That's part of like my synchronicities of like, yo, this

1041
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 2>is bizarre, right, things that would have never happened if

1042
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like put these stupid things in your work.

1043
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:48.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's the kind of a I consider myself

1044
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 2>like a a medic occultist, right, like I'm a medic

1045
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.159
<v Speaker 2>magician of you will where I use memes, I use art, right,

1046
00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:59.639
<v Speaker 2>and I sometimes you know, I'll put thirty three pages

1047
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>or eighty eight pages or thirty three.

1048
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Font like stupid shit like there, yo, I was just

1049
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, when it comes to new numbers, I will

1050
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>do that with fun spacing where I'm putting stuff on

1051
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>fading of transitions with video. Oh yeah, I will use

1052
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of thirty three, eighty eight, seventeen. I'll

1053
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:18.400
<v Speaker 1>be totally honest, three.

1054
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.199
<v Speaker 2>To sixteen, Like I use all bro, you can use.

1055
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Those numbers off. I even set the audio to a

1056
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 1>full forty eight at eighty whatever just to keep going

1057
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 1>with the fours in the eighths.

1058
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, so I definitely do that. And again

1059
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:32.679
<v Speaker 2>if it does something or not, don't.

1060
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know if I do do it.

1061
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:39.519
<v Speaker 2>So there's probably some of my listeners experiencing poultry guys

1062
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 2>activity and shit, and they're just what the hell is

1063
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.840
<v Speaker 2>going on. So one of the things that I've had

1064
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that I haven't had happen in a little bit, but

1065
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I talked about it on a podcast on Tony Merco's

1066
00:52:52.920 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 2>show Confessionals, where for a little bit I was seeing

1067
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.199
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know if I would call them shadow people,

1068
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 2>but like shadows in the corner of my eyes, like

1069
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the peripheral vision, but like some have that some crazy ones, bro,

1070
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.159
<v Speaker 2>like where I'm like, oh, there's somebody pulling up on

1071
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 2>me right now, like let me turn nobody there.

1072
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>There was something like actually there.

1073
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Well that's yeah, Like it was like it was coming,

1074
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, up on me so and I felt that

1075
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced that a few times. When I said that

1076
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:34.079
<v Speaker 2>on that show, a lot of people reached down. They're like, Yo,

1077
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm experiencing the same thing. But again, at the same time,

1078
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's you know these I don't

1079
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever seen the human resonance posts that

1080
00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 2>people are like, oh, there's a spike, and then you

1081
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:51.280
<v Speaker 2>see all the comment Yeah, I'm feeling it in my

1082
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 2>nipples or I can feel hot crashes or feel yeah,

1083
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.280
<v Speaker 2>my balls are Like everyone's like commenting that they're feeling

1084
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, Like are you truly feeling something or

1085
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:01.719
<v Speaker 2>are you just feeling something because you saw the post?

1086
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Like you can influence people

1087
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:09.920
<v Speaker 2>like that. And again, dude, I have never had anything

1088
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 2>like paranormal that I know of happened to me, like substantial,

1089
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 2>like crazy, like I've seen a UFO right, Like I've

1090
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.840
<v Speaker 2>seen one. And the only reason what.

1091
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought I've actually seen I saw something in the

1092
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:25.480
<v Speaker 1>sky moving like you shouldn't be I've seen that.

1093
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 2>The only reason I know that it was legit because

1094
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 2>mind I told I told you, my wife doesn't believe

1095
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.079
<v Speaker 2>in this shit. She was she saw it.

1096
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right. Yeah, so yeah, if you're kind of religious,

1097
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:40.679
<v Speaker 1>made even not believe in UFOs.

1098
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:44.159
<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't even I know that. I don't know

1099
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:46.039
<v Speaker 2>what I saw. So therefore to the UFO R it

1100
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.599
<v Speaker 2>was fine and it was going across. There was you.

1101
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I was notified to me. So and my son saw

1102
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 2>it too. My son was actually the one that saw

1103
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it first. So he was like five at the time.

1104
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:57.960
<v Speaker 2>So he looks up, He's like, Daddy, was that And

1105
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the hell is that? You know, what

1106
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:02.280
<v Speaker 2>the hell is even that? You know you've seen that?

1107
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:03.599
<v Speaker 2>That that that meme?

1108
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

1109
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, what the And we looked up

1110
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 2>and it was completely silent, like this orange orb zipped

1111
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.880
<v Speaker 2>across the sky bro just film. My wife was there.

1112
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.280
<v Speaker 2>We were in the backyard, you know what I'm saying.

1113
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>So now at your own house, you didn't have to

1114
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 1>like you want to drive and nothing out to stop.

1115
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was alone, and I told you that story,

1116
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, this guy's full of shit, right, like

1117
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:28.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe this guy you know, maybe not. But the fact

1118
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:29.920
<v Speaker 2>that I was there and I have I have a

1119
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.760
<v Speaker 2>video of my son directly after I didn't take a

1120
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 2>video of it because it was I was going by

1121
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 2>too fast. But I took a video of my son

1122
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.840
<v Speaker 2>directly after and like asked him, like what did you see?

1123
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:41.199
<v Speaker 2>But then he got crazy. He's like, oh yeah, and

1124
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the little alien men came down on the ground. Like

1125
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 2>all right, bro, all right, chill, let me turn this

1126
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:49.400
<v Speaker 2>off because you just sucked it up. He's a five

1127
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 2>year old boy, bro, So I'm like, Yo, this is

1128
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:54.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna be crazy. It's gonna be like a microphone dude. Yeah,

1129
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, the aliens came down and they started

1130
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:58.920
<v Speaker 2>walking around the yard. I'm like, what the fuck, dude,

1131
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 2>come on, man, he's definitely my son, you know what

1132
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Like, so that's the only thing I've had.

1133
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 2>And then obviously like the crazy synchronicities, you know, as

1134
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 2>far as messing with this sort of stuff. But it

1135
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:18.239
<v Speaker 2>gets to a point where, you know, I haven't joined

1136
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.360
<v Speaker 2>any lodges or anything like that. I think that's all

1137
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 2>that's super gay, right, or making the jump to actually

1138
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:28.440
<v Speaker 2>join an organization. But for some people, they can't fight

1139
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:30.719
<v Speaker 2>the itch, bro and they read about these sort of

1140
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.360
<v Speaker 2>things and they they want to take the leap and

1141
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 2>then they're in it. And then once you join an organization,

1142
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 2>especially in this community, you're tainted. Bro, you got that's

1143
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:43.320
<v Speaker 2>a scarlet letter for life, Like oh you were a

1144
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:47.760
<v Speaker 2>free Nison Brown. Oh yeah, you're talking about the Yeah,

1145
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 2>I will have.

1146
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.400
<v Speaker 1>To say that is something which I'm surprised. I mean

1147
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 1>there's been a few people, but yeah, maybe two or three.

1148
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I've never really dealt with too much bullshit because of

1149
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the OTO's truth. I don't know why I actually thought

1150
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I would deal with more of that, like more backlash

1151
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:05.559
<v Speaker 1>because you're talking Yeah, yeah, sometimes I think maybe because

1152
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:06.639
<v Speaker 1>it's just like I don't even know what the fun

1153
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:08.119
<v Speaker 1>he's saying, So I can't even argue the guy who

1154
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:09.119
<v Speaker 1>says Runner's a dick.

1155
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.000
<v Speaker 2>So what's the whole what's the whole point of the OTO? Like,

1156
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 2>what's there? It's the lemic right.

1157
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah it's too I mean the whole thing

1158
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>isn't you know, come to have a magical experience, know

1159
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:28.159
<v Speaker 1>your will and to do it. The whole point of

1160
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:29.559
<v Speaker 1>the OTO though, I mean.

1161
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Like you're in there because like the occult is all

1162
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:37.760
<v Speaker 2>about getting right, getting as close to the Godhead as possible, right.

1163
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I would say, it's very Kabbala based to

1164
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the Oto. You know, my experience there they do the

1165
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Gnostic Mass, that's kind of like their thing of church

1166
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to be showing like you know, again the

1167
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:53.760
<v Speaker 1>man crossing the Abyss, so having a magical experience, you know.

1168
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:57.039
<v Speaker 1>There they do that. They used to do classes. Sometimes

1169
00:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 1>they would do history classes on all occultists. They would

1170
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:02.199
<v Speaker 1>do class this is on basic shit like you know

1171
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:05.000
<v Speaker 1>how to make a magic candle or some shit like that,

1172
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:09.920
<v Speaker 1>or you know talispins or sigils. But for the most part,

1173
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean I stayed on. I don't know why I

1174
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>even stayed as long as I did. I think at

1175
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 1>one point I actually thought like, oh, as silly as

1176
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:20.719
<v Speaker 1>it sounds, I guess it's like it is almost like

1177
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a badge, you know what I'm saying. To an extent,

1178
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess like you feel cool, you feel a part

1179
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.199
<v Speaker 1>of something, so you're gonna keep going. Even though I

1180
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:29.719
<v Speaker 1>diver felt like I fit in. But I guess like

1181
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.199
<v Speaker 1>my overall experience, I mean, you know, I went because

1182
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to learn about different ideas of magic. Meeting

1183
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.119
<v Speaker 1>other people that were practicing that I could bounce ideas

1184
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 1>off of but in my opinion, eventually you know again,

1185
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:43.599
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why I left is because once

1186
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I started having magical experiences, my opinion of that place

1187
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 1>changed greatly. It seems I don't know if it's the organization,

1188
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.599
<v Speaker 1>if it's the people. Something goes wrong somewhere and it

1189
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.480
<v Speaker 1>seems like they focus more on the handcuffs. They're actually

1190
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.440
<v Speaker 1>stopping you from having a magical experience then actually going

1191
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. There was things like, you know,

1192
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you talk about the homoculous in there. Not saying that

1193
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>the book is completely right. There are some things that

1194
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.039
<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact is right because I have

1195
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 1>done some of the initiations. But in the Secret Rights

1196
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:21.760
<v Speaker 1>of the Oto and one of the rituals, they do

1197
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:26.559
<v Speaker 1>talk about the homo oculous. In my opinion, I think

1198
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that place to an extent, if you stick around long enough,

1199
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you're possibly a guinea pig for MKOTA experiments

1200
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 1>or you'll be providing it. Well.

1201
00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 2>This plays directly into my latest research a little bit

1202
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:49.960
<v Speaker 2>where i've you know, this ancient espionage essentially and right

1203
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Crawley being a secret agent allegedly being able to establish

1204
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:56.880
<v Speaker 2>lodges in other countries is just another way of infiltrating

1205
00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the government without actually having to make it. No, it's like, oh,

1206
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:03.599
<v Speaker 2>what are they doing? Freedom of religion, freedom of expression

1207
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:06.239
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Here's a bunch of a bunch of bros

1208
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:10.159
<v Speaker 2>hanging out. Meanwhile they're collecting information while they're there, and

1209
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.119
<v Speaker 2>it's all occulted in the occult like, oh, oh, we're

1210
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:13.559
<v Speaker 2>just doing right.

1211
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:16.519
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think it is definitely information gathering too.

1212
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:19.840
<v Speaker 2>And who always who always joins these places? Like usually

1213
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.440
<v Speaker 2>old rich dudes who are bored as fuck, who want

1214
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:26.360
<v Speaker 2>to hang out? Who wanted to you know?

1215
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:29.400
<v Speaker 1>When I started thinking something was weird after I took

1216
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:33.119
<v Speaker 1>the second degree initiation, you're available to do certain things.

1217
01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 1>And one of them was like to be like this

1218
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.760
<v Speaker 1>liaison with you, and like, fuck, what the fuck is

1219
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:42.199
<v Speaker 1>this jerk Wolston name, it's like the beta whatever some

1220
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 1>dude who's like it that the O h O like

1221
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:48.280
<v Speaker 1>top of the ot O and uh, it's like a

1222
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:50.519
<v Speaker 1>volunteer thing that you can do and it looks good.

1223
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:52.480
<v Speaker 1>And I had like thought about doing it because I

1224
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:54.360
<v Speaker 1>was like it seems like easy. I just got to

1225
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:55.920
<v Speaker 1>go on Skype and like talk to the guy for

1226
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:58.079
<v Speaker 1>like an hour and I thought it was once a month,

1227
01:00:58.159 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's still weird. I still thought it was weird.

1228
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.280
<v Speaker 1>The guy's gonna talk to you and ask you, like,

1229
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:05.079
<v Speaker 1>how's the lodge doing? And then I found out it

1230
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:06.559
<v Speaker 1>was every week, and I was like, what the fuck

1231
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:08.440
<v Speaker 1>does this dude need to ask me shit like that

1232
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:12.920
<v Speaker 1>for every week? I'm like, what are you looking for?

1233
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.320
<v Speaker 1>My man? Honestly, what's gonna change from one week to

1234
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the next. Some bitch I didn't want to see what

1235
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the tits out did the Gnostic Mass. We had some wine,

1236
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 1>we ate some cake of light, and we went the

1237
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.159
<v Speaker 1>fuck home. What do you need? What are you looking for?

1238
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.199
<v Speaker 1>You're looking for something. Now, you're gathering information. If you

1239
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:30.480
<v Speaker 1>need to talk to somebody from that fucking lodge every week,

1240
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 1>what's going on here? You know? And then even after

1241
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the second degree initiation, after you do that, they will

1242
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.519
<v Speaker 1>even go into and tell you certain things that will

1243
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:43.960
<v Speaker 1>actually be needed to be done for you to keep

1244
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 1>going up. And at one point you're handing over your

1245
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:49.000
<v Speaker 1>shit to them. And if you're fucking in a relationship,

1246
01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:51.320
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be with somebody in there. It turns into

1247
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:55.920
<v Speaker 1>a cult. Something the fuck is wrong with that? Please Wow,

1248
01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:58.199
<v Speaker 1>to either get to the seventh or eighth degree, you

1249
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:01.880
<v Speaker 1>were handing your shit over to them. Now there's another

1250
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 1>guy that i've Paul, you know, Paul Ravelli. I think

1251
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.320
<v Speaker 1>he says the ninth and tenth though, because now this

1252
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:08.000
<v Speaker 1>gets confused.

1253
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:09.320
<v Speaker 2>How we did the show the other day.

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01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had told me that once you

1255
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.239
<v Speaker 1>get up to another higher degree, then everybody at that

1256
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.280
<v Speaker 1>degree actually gets to split what the wealth of the

1257
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:19.239
<v Speaker 1>OTO is. So now I don't know what the fuck's

1258
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:24.679
<v Speaker 1>going on. So to me, it just seems very shady,

1259
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.400
<v Speaker 1>my man and I again, there's just things that I've

1260
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:32.480
<v Speaker 1>seen people do for initiations, just at that point they

1261
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:35.039
<v Speaker 1>got your thumb on you in order to keep going

1262
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:37.440
<v Speaker 1>after the fifth, to go from the fifth on, they

1263
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 1>have to even ask you. I can't even petition anymore.

1264
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 2>So, because this is bro, this is some serious stuff

1265
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.920
<v Speaker 2>we'll be talking about, because is the OTO concerned.

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01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 1>When I heard that, I knew for a fact. I'm

1267
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:53.119
<v Speaker 1>not staying. You just told me I have to give

1268
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you my shit. Fuck off, I'm not staying.

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01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Are they considered a religious organization?

1270
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yes they are. They have all that tax breaks, dude, really, Yes,

1271
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:05.079
<v Speaker 1>they have all that.

1272
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.840
<v Speaker 2>It sounds a lot like scientology, dude, just a different name.

1273
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:11.920
<v Speaker 1>You fucking take a look at Lamb. You already got

1274
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a fucking alien. Look at the motherfucker. Yeah, scientology and

1275
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 1>womanism in this house probably. Yeah, so yo, and Crawley

1276
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:23.119
<v Speaker 1>was obsessed. He was very impressed by Joseph Smith.

1277
01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I've heard I saw that recently.

1278
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1279
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:32.960
<v Speaker 2>So but what you mentioned about right having to report

1280
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.519
<v Speaker 2>to this guy weekly not monthly weekly.

1281
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:36.679
<v Speaker 1>That's I was like, Yo, I don't want to talk

1282
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to this dude. What's a week. It's kind of weird.

1283
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:41.440
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, it was just like, you know, if you

1284
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:43.280
<v Speaker 1>do this sometimes I'll get it off your case because

1285
01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.360
<v Speaker 1>like the longer there, the height you go up, they

1286
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.960
<v Speaker 1>want you to start getting involved in more shit. And

1287
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I really not. I really don't want

1288
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:51.239
<v Speaker 1>to have to go to the lodge to do that.

1289
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:52.760
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I could do a skype call once

1290
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:56.320
<v Speaker 1>a month, and I was like, once a week. The fuck. Yeah.

1291
01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:58.360
<v Speaker 2>So he's definitely looking for something. And you know we

1292
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:01.119
<v Speaker 2>mentioned earlier people with schizophrene, you know, people with these

1293
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:05.320
<v Speaker 2>weird aspects to themselves where you know, what if they're

1294
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.239
<v Speaker 2>looking for the perfect Canada. How you're saying to induce

1295
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:12.320
<v Speaker 2>in this micultra conditioning of like, yo, this nick guy

1296
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:15.400
<v Speaker 2>looks a little bit more susceptible than this other guy. Right,

1297
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's try and groom him or whatever to try and

1298
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 2>get him deeper and be our you know, our watchdog there.

1299
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 2>And maybe they'll start asking you things about people who

1300
01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:25.679
<v Speaker 2>were there, like, hey, how does so and so react

1301
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:26.960
<v Speaker 2>when these things happen?

1302
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:29.639
<v Speaker 1>So and you know, it's funny. The two people that

1303
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I personally knew that had that position, one was gay

1304
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and in Antifa, and the other one was three hundred

1305
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:37.679
<v Speaker 1>pounds and she let dudes run trains on her at

1306
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 1>the note Cons every other year at the show. Even

1307
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the people that I know that had that position obviously

1308
01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:48.760
<v Speaker 1>are fucked up. And I'm even wondering if that's why. No,

1309
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, those people would be easy

1310
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to fucking manipulate.

1311
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I hate to say it, Yeah, yeah, no, one hundred percent.

1312
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean being told to think certain fucking crazy things.

1313
01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:00.559
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about New York and how now there

1314
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:03.320
<v Speaker 2>are you know the people who live there like they're zombies.

1315
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:07.079
<v Speaker 2>They're in this sort of uh almost like a Stockholm

1316
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.840
<v Speaker 2>syndrome sort of thing where like they what is so

1317
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:13.159
<v Speaker 2>special about being in New York. It's like it's a shithole, right,

1318
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Like that's all it is, but people.

1319
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Want to do it.

1320
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:19.320
<v Speaker 2>But maybe it's got something to do with the architecture.

1321
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's got something to do with the lay lines,

1322
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the way the city is set up. Like I'm serious though, bro,

1323
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Like think about it, Like maybe it's got something to

1324
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:30.119
<v Speaker 2>do with that, because some people are drawn to these places.

1325
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Like everyone comes to Florida to die. That's what everyone

1326
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:36.360
<v Speaker 2>comes to Florida for. You know, when you start.

1327
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Florida has the most of too, I think in the

1328
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.440
<v Speaker 1>United States amount of underground water running.

1329
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, aqua first everywhere. Bro, it's a syeah.

1330
01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I don't know.

1331
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, Florida is the Garden of Eden, Bro. I mean

1332
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.360
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole other thing. But the you know, it's

1333
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:56.039
<v Speaker 2>something about being drawn to these forces. So but the

1334
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.719
<v Speaker 2>fact that you're telling me this of you know, it

1335
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:00.840
<v Speaker 2>just makes me think of like Free Masons and all

1336
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 2>these other organizations that are the Freemasons also a religious organization,

1337
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:05.639
<v Speaker 2>Like how does that work?

1338
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Fleam is actually considered religion? Wow? Yeah, dude, Yo, they

1339
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:16.320
<v Speaker 1>understand how to make money. Man.

1340
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 2>That was the whole thing with al Ron Hubbard too, right.

1341
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you make a religion, you're you're gonna

1342
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:23.239
<v Speaker 2>be rich or something along those lines. That's what he

1343
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:29.719
<v Speaker 2>said something other. But again, these religions running intelligence operations,

1344
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 2>like that's one hundred percent of intelligence operation.

1345
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 1>You know what you can do? You ever hear a

1346
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.400
<v Speaker 1>guide Star it's a website. No, You go on there

1347
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and you type in like certain like you could type

1348
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:41.679
<v Speaker 1>in Freemason lodgers or maybe certain areas of Orto templely

1349
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Orientice and it's actually a tax site, and you'll see

1350
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:49.199
<v Speaker 1>how much money these motherfuckers a claimant, dude, Loyal Order

1351
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 1>of the Moose people are like, who the fuck is that?

1352
01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Billions of dollars? My man, Loyal Order of the movie,

1353
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 1>there's millions of Yeah, when we covered them, we had

1354
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:05.039
<v Speaker 1>already covered the Gesters, the Shriners in some other order,

1355
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:07.119
<v Speaker 1>and like they all look broke. And when we cover

1356
01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:09.079
<v Speaker 1>the Loyal Order of the Moose, like, yo, these guys

1357
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:13.119
<v Speaker 1>got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah, yeah,

1358
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:15.280
<v Speaker 1>coming from where.

1359
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.159
<v Speaker 2>The hell's the Loyal Order of the Moose.

1360
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Staying they got a half half a billion. But the Freemasons,

1361
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the gestures of the Shrine, Shriners, who was considered to

1362
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:27.119
<v Speaker 1>be they ain't got jack ship. But all of a sudden,

1363
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:28.960
<v Speaker 1>these guys do. There's fucking money.

1364
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Being Ah, there's a bunch of them here in Florida.

1365
01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Bro, look at that stuff. You can see how much

1366
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:34.400
<v Speaker 1>money they have.

1367
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Man, there's three, there's three already here in Orlando, right

1368
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:46.559
<v Speaker 2>off the bat boom, this eighteen eighty eight baby, the

1369
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Moose Loyal Order of Moose fraternity. And you know it's

1370
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:52.280
<v Speaker 2>interesting because.

1371
01:07:54.519 --> 01:08:00.679
<v Speaker 1>The Moose Heart Illinoise, they own that town. Moose Heart, Yo,

1372
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:03.519
<v Speaker 1>it's theirs.

1373
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, it's crazy, so so residential child care facility.

1374
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:15.559
<v Speaker 1>That's so weird, Bro, I think I believe it in that.

1375
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:19.479
<v Speaker 1>I think whatever that thing that manson was in the

1376
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Boys and Girls town or whatever, I think that might

1377
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 1>be one of those there or something like that in

1378
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:23.239
<v Speaker 1>there too.

1379
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:29.359
<v Speaker 2>The Child's city. What that's bizarre because when you look

1380
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:32.640
<v Speaker 2>when you look at when you look at Freemasons and

1381
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:35.800
<v Speaker 2>like the Shriners, and like how they build children's hospitals.

1382
01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:40.279
<v Speaker 2>They're in circuses like they're, bro, that's so weird.

1383
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Man. Fun fact about the Shriners. Their number one major,

1384
01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the number one surgery that they do, or at least

1385
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:49.800
<v Speaker 1>there was a few years ago, is removing spina biffdia

1386
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.800
<v Speaker 1>sacks so for kids backs, baby's backs, And that's the

1387
01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:58.000
<v Speaker 1>number one ingredient in estate Lord's night. Zerom is fermented

1388
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:01.720
<v Speaker 1>spin of biffdia that comes off.

1389
01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Do this, look at this. In nineteen ninety four, four

1390
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Moose Heart employees were convicted of sexually abusing children. Two

1391
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.760
<v Speaker 2>years later, a Moose Heart employee was convicted of possession

1392
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:15.359
<v Speaker 2>of CP.

1393
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, dude, they got that's all Moosladge stuff. Dude, Yeah,

1394
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you know they getting Mouseladge money. Bro.

1395
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:31.079
<v Speaker 2>So so okay, all right, so we have you know,

1396
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk with the whole doge and all this other stuff, right,

1397
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:37.640
<v Speaker 2>which which is interesting because dog is is God backwards,

1398
01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:41.159
<v Speaker 2>right doge, and he's running like this whole operation where

1399
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:44.520
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of exposing you know, everyone getting a kickback

1400
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:47.960
<v Speaker 2>from like these different organizations and money. And this to me, bro,

1401
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.560
<v Speaker 2>all it sounds like is that is like a money

1402
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:56.880
<v Speaker 2>laundering operation. But again, Nigga doesn't answer the question is

1403
01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:01.039
<v Speaker 2>the occult faking gay? Can I some in? Can I

1404
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 2>join the typhony no teo and summon Cuthulhu to come

1405
01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:11.520
<v Speaker 2>and aid me in my real world affairs?

1406
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 1>No? Not really. I think that aspect of it is

1407
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:16.279
<v Speaker 1>mostly faking gay.

1408
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:22.479
<v Speaker 2>So no, Cuthul, I can't summon him, and good luck?

1409
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:25.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you do and let me know how you

1410
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:26.680
<v Speaker 1>did it? Please?

1411
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But but chaos magic is sort of you can

1412
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.600
<v Speaker 2>assign things for a second, right, use it for your operation,

1413
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:36.760
<v Speaker 2>and then ditch it after a second, Like would that

1414
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:40.560
<v Speaker 2>be possible where I can kind of assign, you know,

1415
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Cuthulhu as a placeholder for let's say Venus or Saturn

1416
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:48.000
<v Speaker 2>or something, and then invoke that and kind of, I

1417
01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:49.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know, take on that persona and then just let

1418
01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:51.119
<v Speaker 2>it go after the factor.

1419
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's more like an eggregorous vitory

1420
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:56.079
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to like explain maybe.

1421
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.920
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, Like you know, I've heard, I've come

1422
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:02.359
<v Speaker 2>understand and correct me if I'm wrong. I've come to

1423
01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:05.000
<v Speaker 2>understand that chaos magic is like the only thing you

1424
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:05.520
<v Speaker 2>need is.

1425
01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Just will and belief, Like, oh yeah.

1426
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Fuck the rest. You don't need a ceremony, You don't

1427
01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 2>need like the garb or nothing that, none of that.

1428
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:15.439
<v Speaker 2>It's just like do it and be done with it.

1429
01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Do your ritual with Super Mario bros. If you want to.

1430
01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:20.760
<v Speaker 2>And then after the fact.

1431
01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh I hear, Okay, I get what you get it.

1432
01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:25.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just an association for something, yes, yeah, yes, yeah

1433
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I believe that. Yeah.

1434
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:30.359
<v Speaker 2>So again, the more I look at it, I think

1435
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:34.600
<v Speaker 2>that the true occult knowledge, the true dangerous knowledge, is

1436
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the whole blackmail operation.

1437
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

1438
01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:40.520
<v Speaker 2>The fact that you're reporting to that guy once a month,

1439
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.199
<v Speaker 2>once a it's a week. I was like, that's even worse.

1440
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Once a week. It's trying to get dirwn people.

1441
01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's what I was,

1442
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:53.399
<v Speaker 1>just like, what the fuck that is? Weird? Yeah?

1443
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I know, that's that's it. So another person to.

1444
01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:58.680
<v Speaker 1>That, I said, was even doing that sexual shit. You know,

1445
01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:00.399
<v Speaker 1>they didn't even know how to do any rich rules

1446
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and they were already a third degree. I was like,

1447
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:04.520
<v Speaker 1>how the fuck do you even get anyway when you

1448
01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:07.600
<v Speaker 1>don't even know how to do a ritual? Quite obviously,

1449
01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I found out a noticon she lays on her back.

1450
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing, dude, Like even in right, my

1451
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.640
<v Speaker 2>son is in karate. I know that the dojo that

1452
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:22.920
<v Speaker 2>he goes to, some kids do get held back and

1453
01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:25.479
<v Speaker 2>then they don't pass their test day, you know. But essentially,

1454
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure it's the same in these organizations. You

1455
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 2>pay a fee and you do your initiation, right how

1456
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:32.319
<v Speaker 2>they do it.

1457
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's about fifty bucks.

1458
01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:36.199
<v Speaker 2>It's one hundred and fifty bucks.

1459
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's how much. I think that was about the

1460
01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:41.840
<v Speaker 1>average from the ones that I did. Yeah, and it

1461
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:45.199
<v Speaker 1>really I think one time I got a I got

1462
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:48.319
<v Speaker 1>a rope in a brass coin. The second time I

1463
01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:52.279
<v Speaker 1>gotta I've got triangle patch really wasn't worth one hundred

1464
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and fifty bucks. You do get to bring some things

1465
01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:56.039
<v Speaker 1>home though.

1466
01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I mean definitely. But like how you're saying,

1467
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:02.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe getting together with people who are of the same

1468
01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:04.680
<v Speaker 2>mindset and all that stuff, but then you just start

1469
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to realize, like, man, these people are fucking retards, you know,

1470
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.520
<v Speaker 2>and they don't really actually know anything. They're just LARPing,

1471
01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:11.640
<v Speaker 2>which is which is.

1472
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:13.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of that there. There was a lot

1473
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:15.159
<v Speaker 1>of that. A lot of people are there basically just

1474
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the worship crowle.

1475
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a certain demographic, right, I'm sure that those

1476
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 2>people who were there were cause playing at the comic

1477
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:28.720
<v Speaker 2>con playing Dungeon the Dragons. Come on, dude, they invited

1478
01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:31.039
<v Speaker 2>to go play Dungeons and Dragons with them one night.

1479
01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:33.199
<v Speaker 1>And you're like, this is too much.

1480
01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not into this ship. So it's that sort of demographic.

1481
01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:39.600
<v Speaker 2>But who was it that I was reading about. I

1482
01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 2>was reading about somebody that, uh, Joseph Leshouski, I think

1483
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 2>is the Levuski. I don't know how to say his

1484
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:50.079
<v Speaker 2>last name, but he was allegedly the guy he worked

1485
01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:53.239
<v Speaker 2>with Israel Gardi, and he was allegedly a guy who

1486
01:13:54.680 --> 01:14:00.560
<v Speaker 2>had he was known for allegedly right and poking a

1487
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.520
<v Speaker 2>demon to like actual manifestation, like you know, like actual

1488
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:06.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, in front of him.

1489
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Now.

1490
01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Of course, all of these guys don't take pictures of

1491
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.199
<v Speaker 2>these things. He also said he created a homunculus in

1492
01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:12.760
<v Speaker 2>the eighties too, and then he said when he tried

1493
01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:14.359
<v Speaker 2>to take a picture of it, couldn't focus, so he

1494
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:17.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't get a picture of it. But you know, he

1495
01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:20.479
<v Speaker 2>wrote all the instructions down, and you know he was

1496
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:23.159
<v Speaker 2>talking to Regardi about it, and Freder Albertus and all

1497
01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:27.039
<v Speaker 2>these other guys you know, in the eighties out in Utah, right,

1498
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:29.439
<v Speaker 2>which is weird, right Utah and the Mormons out there.

1499
01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:34.479
<v Speaker 2>But this guy, uh, he wrote about somebody who talked

1500
01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:37.640
<v Speaker 2>about I think somebody who wrote his his forward or

1501
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:41.880
<v Speaker 2>something to the book that was like, man, I regret

1502
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:45.199
<v Speaker 2>looking into the occult. I should have focused all more

1503
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.279
<v Speaker 2>in my life on making money instead of looking into

1504
01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 2>this shit because it leads to nothing and you're just

1505
01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:52.319
<v Speaker 2>left with nothing at the end of the day. Like

1506
01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:54.560
<v Speaker 2>how you're saying, like you can go down the rabbit

1507
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:56.439
<v Speaker 2>hole and you just come out the other side the same.

1508
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I do think there's a lot with that

1509
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:01.359
<v Speaker 1>with the occult too.

1510
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:05.159
<v Speaker 2>But it's probably done on purpose because the skills to

1511
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:07.600
<v Speaker 2>start a lodge and just take other people's shit. It's

1512
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:08.039
<v Speaker 2>a cult.

1513
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, look at the guy who created Wicka.

1514
01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:17.199
<v Speaker 1>He was actually a disciple, well disciple he studied underneath Croley,

1515
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and Croly even gave him permission to open up an

1516
01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Oto lodge and he said, nah, I guess I'll go

1517
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:23.560
<v Speaker 1>start Wicka Blake because it made more money and the

1518
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:27.000
<v Speaker 1>lodge would have Really yeah, I think all that was

1519
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:30.520
<v Speaker 1>just to make money. I mean even even I'll be

1520
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:33.239
<v Speaker 1>telling you even the oto. They consider Wicka like Thelema Light,

1521
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:34.760
<v Speaker 1>like hew Cure.

1522
01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:41.479
<v Speaker 2>The craft that was. Let's see here Wica just in

1523
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:46.319
<v Speaker 2>twentieth century hermetic motifs for theological and virtual purposes.

1524
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, well General Gardner, Yeah.

1525
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Gardner says here. Doreen Valentin joined Gardner in nineteen fifties. Yeah,

1526
01:15:55.159 --> 01:16:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Drug Gardner a retired British civil servant. Huh, he said.

1527
01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:01.680
<v Speaker 2>This guy worked with Crowley.

1528
01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Crowley had given him permission to open up a launch.

1529
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Guy looks like he had a cock ring one hundred percent, dude,

1530
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.560
<v Speaker 2>like on his actual like a prince alb or whatever

1531
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:14.920
<v Speaker 2>they call it. This guy, Bro, look at this guy's face.

1532
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Yo, he's bucked out looking.

1533
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Look at this guy. This guy looks like a fucking

1534
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:21.399
<v Speaker 2>he did. This guy was part of the Royal Order

1535
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:21.920
<v Speaker 2>of the Moose.

1536
01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where'd you go?

1537
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Where do you go? Where do you go?

1538
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:28.520
<v Speaker 1>There?

1539
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:30.439
<v Speaker 2>He is? Look at this guy?

1540
01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Bro? Wait, you know, and that guy I think I

1541
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:34.920
<v Speaker 1>think he would actually like do his stuff like naked

1542
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:36.960
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods too. Oh.

1543
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Bro, there's a bunch of weirdos. Man Like, dude, I'm

1544
01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of shook with this moose Heart thing. Moose Heart

1545
01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Illinois and then the Home for Children. Bro, that's so weird, man,

1546
01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:54.159
<v Speaker 2>look at this. The Children's Museum Zoo Yo.

1547
01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:56.079
<v Speaker 1>He did like a three part series on them. It

1548
01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:56.800
<v Speaker 1>was fucking weird.

1549
01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 2>On the moon Art, yeah, we were like, yo, what, Yeah,

1550
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy bro.

1551
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:04.640
<v Speaker 1>You know who was associated with that. That's how we

1552
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:09.520
<v Speaker 1>even got interested in a John Wayne Gacy into Wika

1553
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>No Moosehart he was. He was using the Moose Lodge

1554
01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:17.520
<v Speaker 1>really yeah. Yeah, he's even He's even taking pictures in

1555
01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a parade with Carter's wife. He was also very political too.

1556
01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:23.439
<v Speaker 2>The serial killer.

1557
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's that's what got us into even looking

1558
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.199
<v Speaker 1>into moosart is because we found out he was involved

1559
01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:29.680
<v Speaker 1>in it. We're like, oh, we gotta look into.

1560
01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:31.560
<v Speaker 2>That because you know what, I think that. I think

1561
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:33.840
<v Speaker 2>that serial killers are part of this whole thing too.

1562
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh they're programmed and and they turned a blind eye

1563
01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:40.640
<v Speaker 2>to see how it evolves. It's it's amunculus, bro, because

1564
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:44.000
<v Speaker 2>like you can either use the homunculus to acquire godlike

1565
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:46.640
<v Speaker 2>powers or you can release it into the wild and

1566
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:47.640
<v Speaker 2>let it do its thing.

1567
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1568
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:51.199
<v Speaker 2>That's yes, And I think that's how Dahmer got away

1569
01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 2>with so many things for so long and a lot

1570
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:56.800
<v Speaker 2>of these guys got a lot. You're telling me he

1571
01:17:56.880 --> 01:18:00.840
<v Speaker 2>was political talking to press and ship.

1572
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, h what.

1573
01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:08.399
<v Speaker 2>John Way, that's the.

1574
01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:12.600
<v Speaker 1>You know he even like he was involved with the

1575
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:14.680
<v Speaker 1>JCS when he was in prison, and that's like some

1576
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:15.479
<v Speaker 1>other type.

1577
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Of thing as a clown.

1578
01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah with the balloons that says thirty three flavors on it.

1579
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:28.479
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, yeah, yo. He he had a kid who

1580
01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:31.560
<v Speaker 1>worked for him, Robert Pasky, I think it was his name.

1581
01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:36.079
<v Speaker 1>And that guy connects to uh Norman, this guy John

1582
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:38.960
<v Speaker 1>John Norman I think who was down in Texas that

1583
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:43.159
<v Speaker 1>was running a child sex ring. It was it was

1584
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:45.680
<v Speaker 1>so crazy that like he actually had like do you

1585
01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>know those old recipe draws you know your parents or

1586
01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:49.520
<v Speaker 1>your grandmother would have with all those cards in him

1587
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:52.119
<v Speaker 1>for the little recipes. Yeah, they actually had people and

1588
01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:54.760
<v Speaker 1>names and stuff that like were you know, there were

1589
01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:57.039
<v Speaker 1>clients and the cops when they even busted him. You

1590
01:18:57.039 --> 01:18:59.479
<v Speaker 1>can't even listen to cops say there was people's names

1591
01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:01.199
<v Speaker 1>in there that he even came out and mentioned him.

1592
01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:02.399
<v Speaker 1>People would be shocked.

1593
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Bro it says here John Wayne Gacy, American serial killer

1594
01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:10.199
<v Speaker 2>and sex defender who raped tortured or murdered at least

1595
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:14.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty three young men and boys. Yep, that thirty three again.

1596
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

1597
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.479
<v Speaker 2>He became known as the Killer Clown Dude to his

1598
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:22.000
<v Speaker 2>public performances as a clown prior to the discovery of

1599
01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:30.000
<v Speaker 2>his crimes. Yeahs, dude, Eh, that's crazy man. The fact,

1600
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:33.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sure you've seen like the NEPHLM is

1601
01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:38.720
<v Speaker 2>as Clowns, a series that that guy Paul has. But

1602
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:41.039
<v Speaker 2>when you start looking into this again, I think that

1603
01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the the actual co knowledge is that blackmail, right, Like

1604
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:48.039
<v Speaker 2>the how you're saying this guy was it from this

1605
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.039
<v Speaker 2>case that they found the recipe books with people's names

1606
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:51.319
<v Speaker 2>in it.

1607
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:55.000
<v Speaker 1>That guy had gotten busted. I think it was just

1608
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:57.800
<v Speaker 1>like there were two separate, you know, scenarios, and I

1609
01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:00.640
<v Speaker 1>think they ended up realizing because of drop pass game

1610
01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:02.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe a few other things, that they actually connected and

1611
01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:05.279
<v Speaker 1>they might have actually known each other. It's a believe

1612
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:06.439
<v Speaker 1>it or not. It's something that came out a few

1613
01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:08.479
<v Speaker 1>years ago with like Peacock when they did a series

1614
01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:10.239
<v Speaker 1>on Gacy. They even get into this.

1615
01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's something about, right, like serial killers in

1616
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:18.520
<v Speaker 2>society that they're like kind of infatuated with like wanting

1617
01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:23.119
<v Speaker 2>to how many Domer documentaries are there? Right, like people

1618
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:25.159
<v Speaker 2>think he's hot and then that one, that one.

1619
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:28.920
<v Speaker 1>That's another reason why I think we know these is

1620
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:30.600
<v Speaker 1>because it's like, all right, they're kind of in an

1621
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 1>experiment and we're gonna make money off of selling it

1622
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to to the public too. That's why I think it's

1623
01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:40.159
<v Speaker 1>even put in our faces so much. Yeah, bro, they

1624
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:42.960
<v Speaker 1>all bullshit and they're they're just being Soltos.

1625
01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh bro, yeah, that's.

1626
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:51.079
<v Speaker 1>There's certain things, certain sick ship that another human being

1627
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:53.239
<v Speaker 1>will do that you won't hear jack shit about. But

1628
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:56.199
<v Speaker 1>what's the reason this one gets picked? And when you

1629
01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:59.880
<v Speaker 1>start looking at him, they never make any sense. There's

1630
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:01.760
<v Speaker 1>it was like weird shady shit going on.

1631
01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, like the like the story of how they

1632
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:07.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, like you know, I used Dahmer a lot,

1633
01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:09.920
<v Speaker 2>but he had that one Chinese guy who was trying

1634
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:13.079
<v Speaker 2>to turn into a zombie h And also Dahmer was

1635
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:15.439
<v Speaker 2>into the occult bro. He was making an altar that

1636
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:19.840
<v Speaker 2>he never finished with their goals, Like they never talked

1637
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:21.760
<v Speaker 2>about that where they're like, yo, so what are you

1638
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:27.000
<v Speaker 2>doing with this? So Dahmer skull alter and he was

1639
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:32.560
<v Speaker 2>trying to like make uh a zombie with that Chinese guy.

1640
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:36.159
<v Speaker 2>But he drew his altar. This is what allegedly would

1641
01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:38.520
<v Speaker 2>it looked like. And he said he hadn't gone enough

1642
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:41.960
<v Speaker 2>skulls for it. But here you go right here, Yeah,

1643
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.000
<v Speaker 2>this is it. So Dahmer's Temple of skulls. Bro what

1644
01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:54.359
<v Speaker 2>no painted skeletons, black table, blue lights.

1645
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:55.840
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting.

1646
01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:58.920
<v Speaker 2>You got like some candles and stuff here, painted scale. Yeah,

1647
01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:04.039
<v Speaker 2>so and under that's gonna be. That was gonna be real.

1648
01:22:04.840 --> 01:22:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Look at somebody that black table was up higher. It

1649
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:10.159
<v Speaker 2>almost looks like the Stellar the revelation that we're looking

1650
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:15.199
<v Speaker 2>at before. Oh yeah, yeah. But let's say that this

1651
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>was like some you know, Mike Ultra patient gone wild

1652
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:20.640
<v Speaker 2>and they were just studying him from the shadows, because

1653
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:23.119
<v Speaker 2>we know that the government would do something like that, right,

1654
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:24.680
<v Speaker 2>do that with cults.

1655
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they're involved with cults and like, oh, let's

1656
01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:28.800
<v Speaker 1>see what how much you can mindfuck these people, what

1657
01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you can make them do? And then they just come

1658
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:32.680
<v Speaker 1>in and like, oh yeah, we got to stop this now.

1659
01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's what the whole study Alien

1660
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>disclosure thing that's coming out now too, because if you

1661
01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.319
<v Speaker 2>look at it. A lot of these religions scientology and

1662
01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:52.159
<v Speaker 2>more are UFO cults. Yeah, Like I would even consider Thelima.

1663
01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:55.520
<v Speaker 1>A UFO cult, think about it and argue with that.

1664
01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I could argue with that what I'm saying, like your

1665
01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:01.039
<v Speaker 1>depiction of a gray Unfortunately, it does come from Crowley

1666
01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>in a sense.

1667
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're you're talking. You know, you were influenced. Now

1668
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a distinction though, because Lamb was one thing and

1669
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Iowas was another thing, and Iowas was the was the

1670
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>entity that gave him the Book of the Law, and

1671
01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Lamb was the thing he saw in his New York

1672
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:24.720
<v Speaker 2>apartment that one day where he was doing the Amalantra working.

1673
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think, like with an Nokia magic too, it

1674
01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:31.680
<v Speaker 1>could be wrong with that, Oh there you go. Yeah,

1675
01:23:31.720 --> 01:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it was something like he contacted with magic.

1676
01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Which is part of the OTO as well.

1677
01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, they do, Yeah, they do kind of promote

1678
01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:45.279
<v Speaker 1>that it's kind of, you know, higher magic. I guess

1679
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:47.399
<v Speaker 1>more advanced for sure.

1680
01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Because I've heard that's one of the most dangerous forms

1681
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>of magic and that it's Yeah, I honestly I see,

1682
01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:57.840
<v Speaker 2>like when it comes to my experiences, I think you've

1683
01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:00.199
<v Speaker 2>probably maybe heard it or maybe I've said certain things

1684
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:04.159
<v Speaker 2>to my experience with magic, even my experiences I think

1685
01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:04.840
<v Speaker 2>are very basic.

1686
01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I do actually think Minocchio magic. I actually think you

1687
01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>might be kind of sending yourself to specific places.

1688
01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, I believe it, dude. I think that kind of.

1689
01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Like why it's so like you know, water, water, air,

1690
01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>water air, you know why it's so that that whole thing.

1691
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I think it's very You're getting very pinpointing and specific

1692
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:28.239
<v Speaker 1>on certain experiences.

1693
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:30.680
<v Speaker 2>One of my dreams and anyone listening that wants to

1694
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:34.239
<v Speaker 2>help fund the project, is to make a John Dineword

1695
01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Kelly movie or a series, right, I think that that

1696
01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:40.479
<v Speaker 2>would be a hit. There's nothing on that. No one's

1697
01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:43.319
<v Speaker 2>ever done it, you know. And I think that they

1698
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:46.520
<v Speaker 2>were onto something. I think that they were even if

1699
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:49.159
<v Speaker 2>again because I can't I can't help but think was

1700
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:50.960
<v Speaker 2>it all bullshit? Right? Like that's the whole thing, Like,

1701
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:51.680
<v Speaker 2>is it bullshit?

1702
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Is it not? I think the new stuff? But they

1703
01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>scammed people?

1704
01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:57.239
<v Speaker 2>You think they occulted it on liked they they left

1705
01:24:57.239 --> 01:24:57.680
<v Speaker 2>things out?

1706
01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:00.199
<v Speaker 1>You think, Yeah, I think they just told you what

1707
01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:04.199
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to know. Yeah, I do think that's a

1708
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit of shilling going on, But I do think

1709
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>they are of the knowing. I do you think those

1710
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>guys are onto something?

1711
01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Because you got to remember that John dee knew about

1712
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, Trithenius, which was the father of cryptography, which

1713
01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:23.920
<v Speaker 2>was all about hiding messages and writing. So who's to

1714
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:25.880
<v Speaker 2>say that he did in occult it right? And I

1715
01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:30.119
<v Speaker 2>think that I think that maybe let's say that trust.

1716
01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Because I do think that goes on a lot too.

1717
01:25:32.640 --> 01:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>I think things are ciphered.

1718
01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Let's say that it is real. Let's

1719
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:38.159
<v Speaker 2>say that it does work. But the system that we

1720
01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>have is flawed. And the reason that we're not initiates

1721
01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>and we don't know the true secrets. We don't we

1722
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.399
<v Speaker 2>don't know the secret word right of the temple? Whatever

1723
01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the hell is that the Freemasons say, right, we don't

1724
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:51.800
<v Speaker 2>know how to build the temple because you're not initiated, right,

1725
01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:56.399
<v Speaker 2>So maybe it is a thing. And I think that

1726
01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>part of the occult is about out transmitting information freely

1727
01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>while encoding it. That's what alchemy is, right. You have

1728
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the symbols, The symbols are there, Read them, bitch. Try

1729
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:13.199
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna know how because you're not initiated, right,

1730
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.199
<v Speaker 2>So it's about putting it out front, but then only

1731
01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:20.600
<v Speaker 2>those right Max Heidel. I think it was that wrote

1732
01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:24.520
<v Speaker 2>to the initiate, the text means something completely different than

1733
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:25.479
<v Speaker 2>to the non initiate.

1734
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I agree with that.

1735
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:29.479
<v Speaker 2>And they kind of see they see through it, right.

1736
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I think was huge with that too, you.

1737
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Think so so so have you ever seen the concept

1738
01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that the Book of the Law was a mathematical equation.

1739
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Because of that uh, because of that thing and there

1740
01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>where it kind of like gives that whole like this

1741
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:49.039
<v Speaker 1>equals that and all that stuff that there is like

1742
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a cipher in there. There's nothing like the psychoanine type stuff.

1743
01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but there's a there's another book called

1744
01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the The Rights of cur Law and it was a

1745
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:03.880
<v Speaker 2>this on the typhony and Oto in Miami because they

1746
01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:07.239
<v Speaker 2>consider Miami a power zone or something like that, some

1747
01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>crazy shit. They He conducted a ritual with his chick

1748
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:19.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was supposed to induce an abduction. And what

1749
01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>he ended up doing was, I'll tell you how he

1750
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:24.640
<v Speaker 2>did it. He did the dead man's pose right, the

1751
01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>mummy pose essentially right, and he had the tip of

1752
01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:33.039
<v Speaker 2>his dick out on the top right of the banded

1753
01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:35.199
<v Speaker 2>bandages or whatever. He had the tip of his dick out,

1754
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and he had his chick with a vibrator like edge

1755
01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>of them. I guess right to orgasm. And then he

1756
01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 2>would go into this altered recu is the sex magic

1757
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:48.880
<v Speaker 2>go into this altered state, and he allegedly was abducted

1758
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:54.520
<v Speaker 2>by these Cuthulhu entities craft who ran a train on him. Okay,

1759
01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>they ran a train on him and he got impregnated. Okay,

1760
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:05.680
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't pregnated with this sort of numerical entity parasite

1761
01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:08.279
<v Speaker 2>if you will. And then he was able to read

1762
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:10.159
<v Speaker 2>this code. There's a whole book on it. Peter Lavenda

1763
01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>wrote about it, bro, oh okay, where he could see

1764
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:16.880
<v Speaker 2>this code in the Book of the Law and it

1765
01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:20.199
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to uh. I think it was linked to

1766
01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the number pi. And it proved, like he said, that

1767
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>every single different god and God has had a different

1768
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:32.119
<v Speaker 2>numerical value. Again, I don't know the specific say. I

1769
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't get into the mathematical part of it, but I

1770
01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:37.079
<v Speaker 2>can send you the book, bro, you can kind of

1771
01:28:37.079 --> 01:28:39.439
<v Speaker 2>sort of nobody. It was Peter Lavenda and this dude.

1772
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really interesting. The typhony and Oto, So did

1773
01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 1>you think there is possibly that book is ciphered as well?

1774
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again we're never gonna know or was crawly

1775
01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>full of shit and we're you know, how many times

1776
01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I think how many dots are connecting that aren't even there?

1777
01:28:58.399 --> 01:28:59.359
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying?

1778
01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, there was, uh all right, even put it

1779
01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:06.399
<v Speaker 1>this way, there was there was a book called The

1780
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Vision of the Voice. You know, people might have heard

1781
01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. Lisa from The Occult Rejects when she lived

1782
01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>in Austin, she went to the library that that book.

1783
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>When he was writing it, he had like a book

1784
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that had you know, like before it was published, is

1785
01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:23.039
<v Speaker 1>there and that has all his notes, like he's writing

1786
01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:27.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff in there, and she went to go look at it,

1787
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and like there was times when he brings up Rose

1788
01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot. People always think it's you know that girl,

1789
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>And inside that book you can actually see him doing

1790
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the math for Jamatria for Rose, and it's obviously, in

1791
01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:42.239
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, like what I'm getting as you could see

1792
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that in my opinion, he's he's using that name for

1793
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:48.159
<v Speaker 1>something completely different than why you think. You're reading it.

1794
01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:52.279
<v Speaker 1>You're watching his notes, you're seeing like to what he's

1795
01:29:52.319 --> 01:29:54.359
<v Speaker 1>like kind of almost thinking to us, he's trying to

1796
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>explain somef he's telling the editor to even uh, you know,

1797
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:04.119
<v Speaker 1>give a capital letters towards that don't get it. You know,

1798
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>there's reasons, there's you know, he was he was doing

1799
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff on purpose. You know what I think is funny.

1800
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Maybe be totally honest with you. You know, the type

1801
01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of people too that that follow him, they've you know,

1802
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:18.199
<v Speaker 1>extremely left. If they were to go in and read

1803
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that book and see what he says about black people

1804
01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:22.159
<v Speaker 1>and gay people and his little notes, I think they'd

1805
01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>be a little surpressed. He has no problem dropping the

1806
01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:27.119
<v Speaker 1>N word or calling them fags.

1807
01:30:27.640 --> 01:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>What up my nagas?

1808
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:32.079
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of funny, you know. You get all

1809
01:30:32.079 --> 01:30:35.119
<v Speaker 1>these uh, these these these bleeding liberals, yeah, put them up,

1810
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>but yet they don't realize what the fuck he was

1811
01:30:37.960 --> 01:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>writing in his own handwriting and his own notes about

1812
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:40.399
<v Speaker 1>some people.

1813
01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:43.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've actually i've never actually read this particular book.

1814
01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I've read and an excerpt of this book when he's

1815
01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:50.720
<v Speaker 2>going through the athers, right, and this is when he

1816
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:53.239
<v Speaker 2>was doing it with with with Nierberg, right, I guess

1817
01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I think he was, uh, I think he was actually

1818
01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:58.279
<v Speaker 2>fucking him in the ass or Victor was fucking Crawley

1819
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>in the ass to do these visions. Uh, the what

1820
01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:08.399
<v Speaker 2>I've what I've dubbed sidamic or uh is it sidamic portals?

1821
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:13.199
<v Speaker 2>But don't don't google that because uh you'll get some stuff.

1822
01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:14.199
<v Speaker 1>But the.

1823
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:18.479
<v Speaker 2>I've actually read this, I'm gonna check this out because

1824
01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I've never read the actual book. I've read excerpts and

1825
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:25.399
<v Speaker 2>it was in a book about John d Because you

1826
01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>know this is you know the thirty and Okian Athers,

1827
01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>which is these different dimensions essentially that they unlocked and

1828
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:33.800
<v Speaker 2>every single one has you know, a guardian of some

1829
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:36.600
<v Speaker 2>sorts and you know they're protecting in and all this other.

1830
01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>So that was the whole thing behind the Enochian.

1831
01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if that stuff is almost like the

1832
01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:46.279
<v Speaker 1>movie inception, you know how like you can go deeper

1833
01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:47.479
<v Speaker 1>into going to another.

1834
01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:50.479
<v Speaker 2>Dream another But think about that, bro like what if

1835
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:52.079
<v Speaker 2>you get lost? Like that was the whole thing, right,

1836
01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:54.199
<v Speaker 2>They couldn't get lost in the dream because they wouldn't

1837
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>be able to come back out like in the Matrix.

1838
01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>If you die in the Matrix, you're dead in real life.

1839
01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:00.079
<v Speaker 2>And I have no respect.

1840
01:31:59.800 --> 01:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Of that I have worried about that playing with magic. Yeah,

1841
01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Like there's times where I said, like

1842
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:06.159
<v Speaker 1>I've even seen like windows that for me, I just

1843
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know why I get this feeling that you can

1844
01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>go into it. I don't know if that's true or not,

1845
01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>but I've I'd be afraid to. I'll just keep it real,

1846
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:17.079
<v Speaker 1>you know what. I back out there was some movie

1847
01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's insidious or something or sinister,

1848
01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that it is. It was this kid who

1849
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:23.319
<v Speaker 1>was like kind of like astral traveling and I think

1850
01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like went into a coma and like that kid, like

1851
01:32:25.840 --> 01:32:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you would see him like go through like a door

1852
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:29.199
<v Speaker 1>and would go somewhere and would get lost. And I

1853
01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:32.279
<v Speaker 1>do actually like wonder is that kind of like something

1854
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>true to an extent?

1855
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's interesting that in that book that

1856
01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned earlier, the Anesthetic Revelation with Benjamin Paul Blood,

1857
01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:48.119
<v Speaker 2>which is you know, interesting initials, the one of the

1858
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:51.319
<v Speaker 2>things he talked about was looking into mirrors and wondering

1859
01:32:51.319 --> 01:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>if in the mirror was another reality. Like while he

1860
01:32:55.239 --> 01:32:57.920
<v Speaker 2>was like blasted off on this sort of stuff, he

1861
01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>was wondering, right, it was like it's like whippets. Like

1862
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:03.359
<v Speaker 2>that's what that's essentially what it is. No, I'm serious,

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01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:05.560
<v Speaker 2>but like that's part of it. Like it's like that

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01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:09.279
<v Speaker 2>people go people, they look crazy on it. It cooks

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01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:12.119
<v Speaker 2>your brain, dude, Like it cooks these people's brain. They

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01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>start talking all slow and they just destroy their lives

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<v Speaker 2>with that. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>For for as, I'm very uh whenever I pick something up,

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01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I hyper focus on it, and I'm very compulsive, like

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01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:29.119
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to like hobbies and stuff like that.

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01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>My wife makes fun of me because I'll pick up

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01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:34.800
<v Speaker 2>on you hyper fixation. I thank god every day that

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01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I never picked up drugs. Oh got hooked on drugs

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01:33:39.399 --> 01:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>because like that's that's the kind of person that I have, Bro,

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01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>where I'll get hooked on something and I'll just keep

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01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:47.279
<v Speaker 2>doing it. Like you know, if you get into magic,

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01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>the gathering, you want the best deck, you want the

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01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:52.119
<v Speaker 2>best cards, you want the best everything, like you gotta

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01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:54.359
<v Speaker 2>do it. You know, you start podcasting, you want the

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01:33:54.399 --> 01:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>best mic, the mixer, you know, like all this other stuff.

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01:33:59.319 --> 01:34:02.239
<v Speaker 2>That's the way I am. Bro. But thank god, knock

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01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>on wood that I haven't had that happen to me.

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01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>But I can't say the same for some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>But Nick, you want to add anything before we get

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of here?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, not really. I mean I had a really

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<v Speaker 1>good time, like I expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I really would love to get you back on the

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01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>show one day too. But thank you for having me on. Man,

1893
01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I had a really good talk. And it's that, I guess, say,

1894
01:34:26.239 --> 01:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a breath of fresh air. But if you're a very

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01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>open minded person with the occult and I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you, and let me know whenever you want

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01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>me to go back on the show. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just asking questions. Bro. I'm not here to push

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<v Speaker 2>any narratives, right.

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01:34:39.079 --> 01:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>We just want to figure out what the fuck is

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01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:42.479
<v Speaker 1>going on, man, Like what the fuck I tell you?

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01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Like how it is? Like, Bro, I've been thinking it's

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01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>fake and it's gay, and I want to know maybe

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01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>why it's not. But like there's so much of reality.

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01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Why is it?

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01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:57.079
<v Speaker 2>But listen, you're like it's so interesting, right, Like it's

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01:34:57.119 --> 01:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>so interesting where I'm like, man, it can't just beat it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's simple. I couldn't have just figured it out like

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01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>hey guys, hey, hey, hey, it's all fake, it's all gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray it can't be that simple, or can it?

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01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Right? Like I've spent so much time thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's to the Egyptians, that's the secret to the Druids,

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01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the secret to the Mayans, that's the secret to

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01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:23.119
<v Speaker 2>the Asztext. That's the secret to all of reality this

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<v Speaker 2>whole fucking time. Because again, how I asked you earlier,

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01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>how many dots are we connecting that aren't even fucking there?

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<v Speaker 1>You get to the end and you open up a

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01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:36.199
<v Speaker 1>box that plays like fucking Rick Ashley and you just got.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like.

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<v Speaker 1>He went through all that and it's faking gay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all it is. It's a little note, bro, It's

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01:35:46.119 --> 01:35:52.039
<v Speaker 2>a little note like, is that what the magical papyri said?

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01:35:52.199 --> 01:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>You know? That's what they don't want to tell us, dude,

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01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:57.359
<v Speaker 2>That's what they don't want to tell us. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the tablets that Josie, that Joseph Smith had,

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01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:03.319
<v Speaker 2>that's what the tablet said. And he's like, you know what,

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01:36:03.399 --> 01:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna roll with it. But that's what he

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<v Speaker 2>translated that, I take this shit out of here, take

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<v Speaker 2>it back with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go back with that. I gotta come up

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<v Speaker 1>with some moron.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, so listen bro, We'll do this again soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let the people know where they can find you all

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<v Speaker 2>more time before we get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh the cult rejects and that's on old major podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>and bitchoot rumble and YouTube. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome and send me your links to so I can

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<v Speaker 2>post some of the description truthfully. Make sure to follow

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<v Speaker 2>Sew on social media at the one on one podcast

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<v Speaker 2>www dot tjojp dot com links down to the description.

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<v Speaker 2>Go follow the backup YouTube channel Juan on Juan Media

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<v Speaker 2>and leave a review. If you enjoy this episode, comment whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>who cares see you on the next one.