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<v Speaker 1>All right, you're listening to the Benenscuin Show. We appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you making us a part of your daily routine. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've been listening to us for a while, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that the Luca trade it is directly in our heart.

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<v Speaker 1>It has hurt our sports soul. But we've carried on

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<v Speaker 1>MAVs basketball tonight. By the way, the play in tournament continues.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck to the Mavericks to night against the Grizzlies.

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<v Speaker 1>That game will be right here on the Eagle. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's also other news today with regard to the Mavericks,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is that Luca did an interview, and now

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<v Speaker 1>that interview is out there in the world, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to take a listen.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you got to key?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know if it's the full interview or

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<v Speaker 3>how long you sit down, but the clip that's been

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<v Speaker 3>servicing is about two minutes. So, yeah, this is Luca

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<v Speaker 3>on ESPN with Malika Andrews.

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<v Speaker 4>The night you're traded and you threw it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, do you have that phone? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>You still use that phone?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it still works.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go back to the night that you were traded.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you just take me through what you did that night.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I was actually in the bed. No, my tea

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't working, so I was a nightpay watching movie about

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<v Speaker 5>to go to sleep. For seeing us said like probably

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<v Speaker 5>three times.

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<v Speaker 4>Just say you first, What are you feeling in that moment?

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<v Speaker 5>Suddence. Mostly I was still in shock, like crazy shock,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was, I mean, I felt like my heart

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<v Speaker 5>was broken. Honest.

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<v Speaker 4>Where did you rank that in terms of your all

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<v Speaker 4>time performances?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say top one, just because it was so special,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, with the fans, with teammates just being there.

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<v Speaker 5>It was something I've never seen in my life and

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<v Speaker 5>it was just just specially the love between me and

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<v Speaker 5>the fans.

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<v Speaker 4>On your way out of Dallas, some pretty pointed criticisms

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<v Speaker 4>of you on the floor, off of the floor, even

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<v Speaker 4>about your body.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll me to just play from depends how you take it.

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<v Speaker 5>Mostly it came from Dallas, you know, so I just

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<v Speaker 5>didn't want to talk back, but I really read that

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<v Speaker 5>much stuff and just trying to focus on my journey.

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<v Speaker 4>General manager Nico Harrison of the Dallas Mavericks, you had

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<v Speaker 4>this closed door, no cameras meeting with reporters. The reporter said,

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't believe that the team that went to the

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<v Speaker 4>finals last year with Luca as a centerpiece, could contend

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<v Speaker 4>and continue to contend for championships. And Nico Harrison said,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say this again, defense wins championships. What do you

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<v Speaker 4>say to that?

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<v Speaker 5>This is certain the way he's talking right now. But

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<v Speaker 5>I never say anything bad about him, and I just

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<v Speaker 5>want to move on the fans my ex teammates. I

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<v Speaker 5>always keep it hard. It's time too for me to

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<v Speaker 5>move on from that.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you spoken to Nico Harrison since you left Dallas?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you spoken to him on the night that you

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<v Speaker 4>were traded? No? Was your intention to finish your career

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<v Speaker 4>in Dallas?

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, that's easy question.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, I was healing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why I avoid it. I don't look for

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<v Speaker 3>any Luca content at all. He's only going to make

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<v Speaker 3>you feel bad.

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<v Speaker 6>Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm avoiding it. Dude.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't want to see Luca go up against ant

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<v Speaker 6>Man starting tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I got in the mail yesterday? My

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<v Speaker 1>first bit of Lakers gear.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what'd you get? I got some shorts? Got some

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers shorts. You should have gotten in Austin Reeves, Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is, and your Bingo card.

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<v Speaker 6>Would you have felt different. I know it's tough, but

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<v Speaker 6>if they did get Austin Reeves out of the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, it would still suck. But like they

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<v Speaker 1>should have gotten whatever else. Yeah, if they got Lebron back, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they went and dealt from a place of weakness. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a problem. We have to trade Luca because

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<v Speaker 1>of all these problems. And then Rob Polinka the gym

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers like, yeah, uh man, if we're gonna take this

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<v Speaker 1>guy off her hands, sounds like he's pretty flawed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be able to give you that much

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<v Speaker 2>for him.

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<v Speaker 6>If you think about several things jump out out of

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<v Speaker 6>that clip. If you think about the way that the

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<v Speaker 6>fan base has reacted to this in general, all of it,

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<v Speaker 6>every level of it, and especially whenever like the Nico.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I would call it a private press conference

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<v Speaker 6>or a private media gathering. It wasn't secret, like people

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<v Speaker 6>knew it existed. But when you look at that, in

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<v Speaker 6>the way that the fan base has reacted to it,

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<v Speaker 6>to hear Luca say, it's sad what is being said

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<v Speaker 6>about him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't say anything bad about him him. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to.

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<v Speaker 6>Move on the way he phrases that that is going

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<v Speaker 6>to infuriate people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he's taking the high road. Yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Mavericks are not. Once the Mavericks chose to make this decision,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, the Mavericks once Nico and dude, don't

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<v Speaker 1>let Nico wear this on his own. Think I think

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<v Speaker 1>there was probably a vote, and I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that are lurking in the shadows that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't wearing any of this. He's wearing it all himself.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever. When the Mavericks decided we were moving on

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<v Speaker 1>from him, that in itself is one thing a decision

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<v Speaker 1>to make. Then the return you get that's something else.

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<v Speaker 1>But at that point they were screwed because there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>they can say. They can't say, well, other teams target

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<v Speaker 1>him defensively, he was a liability defensive pep like wait

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<v Speaker 1>what Like it's so emotional that you can't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So the best thing that could have happened is if

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<v Speaker 1>they had just stuck to their guns. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't have come out and made a joke at

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<v Speaker 1>the first press conference, right, They should have understood read

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<v Speaker 1>the room a little bit, right, But they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they should have said, Look, we were going in a

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<v Speaker 1>different direction. It's a lot of money to pay somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>We think his body, you know, he my body might

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<v Speaker 1>break down.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We believe this identity will help us win. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing they could have done. Okay, here, and here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'd say.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>But the problem is that there's there's absolutely nothing they

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<v Speaker 6>can say, because I would maintain, like, if you think

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<v Speaker 6>about the way Malika Andrews position that Nico did not say,

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<v Speaker 6>I think Luka Doncich's terrible defensively and his body is

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<v Speaker 6>going to break down. He said, defense wins Champion. Like

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<v Speaker 6>I think they're talking about the stuff that came out. Yeah, well, okay, again,

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<v Speaker 6>that's all like that's not Nico publicly saying anything. That's

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<v Speaker 6>reporters saying the Mavericks believe, you know. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 6>the problem with that sort of game, Like there's literally

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<v Speaker 6>nothing that Nico can say that the fan base will

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<v Speaker 6>be okay with.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why he hasn't talked.

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<v Speaker 6>But and then he went out there and talked, and

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<v Speaker 6>he talked in kind of vague terms and everyone's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, say, and he's like, I didn't say any.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it's complicated because the return was so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's probably the worst trade in the history of trading,

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<v Speaker 1>like in terms of the value return. And so there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that really can be said right, because that's a

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<v Speaker 1>problem itself, shortening the window by six years, getting an

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<v Speaker 1>older player, that in itself is problematic, not getting a

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<v Speaker 1>full return.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many problems for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But unquestionably this Luca interview is going to hurt the

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<v Speaker 1>hearts of mass fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I like the way you said it there.

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<v Speaker 6>There's there's so many problems with it that even things

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<v Speaker 6>that are valid, they can't be said right. They can't

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<v Speaker 6>because no one, you know, we talk about this all

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<v Speaker 6>the time. People have a reception strategy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like they hear the things that they want to hear,

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<v Speaker 6>and there's literally nothing the man can say or do

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<v Speaker 6>that will justify it to anyone on the planet. And

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<v Speaker 6>so when he doesn't say anything, everyone kills him. And

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<v Speaker 6>then when he goes out and says stuff and he's

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it's dude, he's not like a dynamic public speaker,

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<v Speaker 6>so everyone kills him for what he says. And the

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<v Speaker 6>problem is the perception of the trade is established. Everyone

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<v Speaker 6>feels the way they feel, and there's literally nothing the

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<v Speaker 6>man can say. So killing him for not saying anything

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<v Speaker 6>and then killing him for saying something. That's just the

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<v Speaker 6>position the trade has.

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<v Speaker 2>Put him in.

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<v Speaker 6>Because the trade is universally hated except by Laker fans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when it's it's summertime and you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not gonna turn my air conditioner on. Like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone turns the air conditioner on in the summer. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just such an obvious thing. And that's why conspiracy theories

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<v Speaker 3>about the team moving come up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes crap like that easier to believe because the

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<v Speaker 3>trade is so bad.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you see that Adam Silver stuff the other day

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<v Speaker 6>with Pat McAfee. Everyone's killing Adam Silver and he's like,

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<v Speaker 6>all I'm saying is it's not a conspiracy. We didn't

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<v Speaker 6>do this for ratings. Nico believes what he believes, and

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<v Speaker 6>he also said, I've known Nico a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good person.

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<v Speaker 6>But again, to your point, the trade is so poorly

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<v Speaker 6>received by not only maths but buy basketball media that

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<v Speaker 6>you immediately start making up crazy things to justify it

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<v Speaker 6>to yourself. And what I'm telling you is we've said this,

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<v Speaker 6>not just me saying this. Nico believes that Anthony Davis,

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<v Speaker 6>paired with Kyrie Irving, was going to win him a championship,

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<v Speaker 6>and he did not value the relationship between Luca and

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<v Speaker 6>the fans, and so he made a move that he

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<v Speaker 6>thought was going to bring a championship. And it's like, oh, well, wow,

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<v Speaker 6>this is how everybody feels. I thought everybody felt like

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<v Speaker 6>Brian Winhurst right right.

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<v Speaker 3>The more we get, the more my nuts hurt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm I'm avoided.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Mavericks Tonight, Lakers and Timberwolves start tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the today game. It's fun. We'll do

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<v Speaker 2>it next right after this on The Eagle