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Speaker 1: And Hello, how are you welcome to the Big Podcast

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on this Wednesday, today, the fourteenth day of January. You're

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of our Lord twenty twenty six. My name is Tom Sullivan,

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and we've got a lot of a lot of information

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today to update you with Greenland. What's going on there,

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It's no, it's not funny. I mean, there's some real

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serious talks going on credit cards, capping the interest rates

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on credit cards. But let's start with the real tense

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story of the day, that is about Iran. And we've

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been watching this build and we've been watching people having

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a hard time, but they're getting the information out to

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the world about the protests that are going on in

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the streets of at least Tehran and who knows where

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else within the country of Iran. So I've seen estimates

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of a couple thousand people have been massacred, that they're

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scheduled executions, there's hangings, all of that going on, and

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I number of people speculating about the real status over there,

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and the President has weighed in this afternoon. But let's

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start with a woman. Her name is Hally Degress. She

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has family there in Iran. She's been trying to communicate

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with them. This is what she had to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, as the viewers might know, since Thursday there was

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an internet shutdown, communications shutdown. We were unable to reach

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our families via phone line for days, and it was

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only yesterday did I received call from family in Tehran

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that were on static, which it was saying. They were

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saying that they were fine, but they weren't communicating much

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about the developments on the ground. But what we're receiving

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now from brave Iranians via Starlink via some of those

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calls is that what the scenes are horrific. There was

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a killing spree. The Tehran's largest cemetery, Beihesh Tazahra, is over.

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They're deciding that they're not even going to charge for

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the graves, that they're not even going to charge for

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the burial shrouds because of how costs, because of how

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many bodies have piled up. And I should note that

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there's credible documentation that there's over twelve thousand that have

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been killed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody really knows how many people have been killed,

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but the numbers are large. And yet this is an

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uprising that well, we've seen this movie before and nothing happens.

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We don't lift a finger to help, so is just

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really all that different.

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Speaker 2: What I was saying is that we've had cyclical anti

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regime protests for years now, and instead of heeding the

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calls to the Iranian people that they want no longer

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want this regime, we've decided we're always going to push

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for diplomacy and live with the status quo. And given

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the events in the post October seventh world, the maming

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of the proxies of the Islamic Republic, the fall of

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its top ally Bashar Alasad, the outcome of the Twelve

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Day War that has left its nuclear program in shambles,

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and of course the domestic events on the ground where

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Iranians are unable to feed their families and they're running

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out of water and tear on at some point, at

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least according to some reports, it's created a dynamic where

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it seems that it's on the path to regime collapse.

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And it's not just something I've said. We've had Iran

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expert carrying Sajat Poor and Jack Goldstone, an expert on

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revolutions and social upright and saying that for the first

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time in the Islamic Republic's forty seven year history, they've

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checked all five boxes for regime collapse this winter.

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Speaker 1: So this time they're reaching out to people of tran

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that are protesting, are reaching out specifically to President Trump

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to please help them.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to read exactly what the protesters want, given

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that we're unable to contact them, but I have to

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say that before the communications shut down, there were videos

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a protesters changing the signs that in Tehran, for example,

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to President Trump and making plea videos and asking for help.

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that fled the country that's going viral and he's talking

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about the massacre that's happening under this dark internet shutdown,

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and it's asking for help. So you're hearing different messages

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right now. And I think there is an expectation once

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you start making those kind of comments. As president of

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the United States, I think there is an expectation, at

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least from Sammy Iranian said he is going to make

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good on that promise.

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Speaker 1: And the President has been very strong on his comments

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about keep the protest going, try to overthrow the regime.

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We are there for you. Help is on the way,

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So he's making promises. Michael Allen, former National Security Council

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senior official, weighs in with his thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Well, I agree with the sentiment express These are incredibly

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difficult massacres that are going on. The people of Iran

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are being struck down. The regime has its back against

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the wall, and I think they are really prosecuting everybody

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to the maximum. And I think this puts President Trump's

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pledges to do something front and center. I think what

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they're doing is trying to figure out what would be

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the target set. Would it be instruments of Iranian repression,

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like the police or the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. These

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are just, in a word, the thugs of the regime.

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Who are the ones in the past who've been on

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motorcycles and now are you know, shooting people from the

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tops of buildings. So I think this is a crucial

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moment in this in this would be revolution, and I

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think the United States may need to get involved to

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put this to a tipping point. I think it's one

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of these things. When public, well they'll say no, we

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don't want you to, But in private, as long as

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it's going to be effective, I think they're for it.

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You know, no one is really friends with the Iranian

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regime so much anymore, especially in its decline. So you

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know what, I think that they would be happy to

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see it go. I think they just want it to

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be decisive, and I think that's what President Trump and

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the National Security Council are going through, how to make

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this an effective regime strike.

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Speaker 1: So you're ready for another hot spot in the world.

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We just took Maduro out of Venezuela, but that thing

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is still very unstable there. We've got the missile strikes

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against Syria. We've got the ISIS people in Syria. I

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should say, we go around the world to all these places,

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and now Iran is boiling up to a very hot spot.

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Admiral Stevritez, former NATO commander, says, this is how he

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sees it.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you three things. Number one, he could up

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the economic pressure on Iran. This really is the Achilles Heel.

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This is why these protests are rising. Yes they want freedom,

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yes they want to live their lives, but the economy

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is collapsing. We could put a lot more pressure on

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them by using secondary sanctions, meaning if you do business

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with Iran, we will sanction you or put new tariffs

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on particularly China for example. So economic number two informational,

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figure out how to get the voices of the protesters

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out into the world. This is happening very imperfectly, but

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using starlink, using air dropped means that allow direct communication.

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the protester stories. And I think it is not a

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thousand or two thousand, I would guess somewhere between five

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and ten thousand have been killed already. Get that story

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out there. That's important. And then number three and most directly,

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military strikes. And here you don't have to carpet bomb

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the entire country. You could conduct very precise strikes, going

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after leadership targets I would say, up to and in

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looting the Ayatola, but also leading members of the Revolutionary Guards,

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and take it even down to the street level. Go

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after the police stations, go after the individuals who are

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conducting these crackdowns. All of that, those are three key things.

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And final thought, cyber. You can use cyber to go

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in and really put additional economic pressure dismantle the ability

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of the regime to go after these protesters using cyber.

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So the president has plenty of tools.

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Speaker 1: So the options he laid out pretty carefully. But the

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question is how fast can all this happen? I mean,

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they are literally killing people every single day. They have

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hanging scheduled in the town squares every single day. How

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fast can we operate if we want to try to

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do regime change in Iran?

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Speaker 4: I think almost immediately. And this is why the President

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evidently in the last day or so, has received a

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briefing on all the options available to him. His decision

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stace is closing, and frankly, as we all know, the

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Iranians have a habit of very publicly hanging these protesters

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literally by the neck from Gurney's in town squares. If

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they were to move to that, I think the President

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would have to respond immediately in order to maintain credibility.

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My guess is we are going to do so in

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some way, probably in the next two to three days,

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in less Iranian behavior suddenly changes, which seems unlikely.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid the Admiral's right. I mean, this is promises

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made by the President that we keep protesting. Help is

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on the way, and well, what is he going to do?

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And he's got all the options handed to him. Brett

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Velosovich he's a former Army Special Operations soldier. Lees looking

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Speaker 5: Special Ops right, well, I mean, let me just say,

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the numbers coming out of Iran are staggering. They're morally heartbreaking.

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I mean the scale which protesters are dying. If even

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a fraction of the reported twelve thousand killed is accurate,

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this is no longer a protest crackdown. This is a massacre.

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This is a mass slaughter carried out by a regime

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that is completely forfeited any claim to legitimacy. This is

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Tianeman Square on steroids, and it's happening in real time,

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and our soldiers in the region will be affected by

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this in the long run. I mean right now, though,

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the Iranian people to deserve our support more than ever.

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When a government has to beat, jail, murder, silence its

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own citizens just to stay in power, it's already lost

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its legitimacy. There's no going back at this point. But

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here's the key point. The Iranian people aren't chanting death

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to America. They chanting against their own rulers. They're telling

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the world they want freedom, not clerics with guns, and

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that matters. And even when kids are willing to face

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bullets for freedom. Your line is clear. We need to

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help them. The United States the beacon of freedom in

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the world. We should never sit back and be neutral

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between a totalitarian regime and civilians who are being executed

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in a mass for demanding basic rights. We can't be

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silent in these moments, pretend it's or strength. I simply

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not doing anything right now is like being complicit.

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Speaker 1: So we need to ratchet up this pressure.

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Speaker 5: We need to help them before it's too late, because

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history tells us moments like this don't last forever. And frankly,

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we're the administration does here. The approach matters. We need

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to put pressure. He needs to be applied where accounts.

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Trump has real strength in this region. He's highly respected

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out there where past presidents weren't, and we need to

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send a warning that we are with these protesters and

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help them in any way that we can.

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Speaker 1: So I like this afternoon, President had a meeting in

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the Oval Office. They had a number of topics there

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and he opened it up to the media and they

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were asking him about what are you going to do?

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What are you going to do about Iran? And here's

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what the President had.

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Speaker 6: To say, Mister President Luran, you said that the killing stop.

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Who told you that the killer We have.

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Speaker 7: Been we have been informed by very important sources on

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the other side, and they've said they're killing the stuff

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and the executions won't take place. There was supposed to

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be a lot of executions today and that the executions

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won't take place. And we're going to find out. I mean,

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I'll find out after this. You'll find out. But we've

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been told on good authority, and I hope it's true.

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Speaker 4: Who knows?

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Speaker 6: So how do you try to know?

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Speaker 7: You've seen that over the last few days and they

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said people were shooting at them with guns and they

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were shooting back, and you know, it's one of those things.

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But uh, they told me that there will be no executions,

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and so I hope that's true.

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Speaker 8: Does this mean military action is now off the table

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against Iran.

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Speaker 7: No, We're going to watch it and see what the

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process is. But we were given a very good, very

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good statement by people that are aware of what's going

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on considering military actions. They say no executions. Everyone was

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We were just tell no executions. I hope that's true.

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Speaker 1: Been Yeah, I hope it's true. Too. Interesting the way

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he answered that question. He says, well, we've been told

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by people that the executions have stopped and the shooting

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has stopped, and we hope so. Or it was with

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the question mark and you know that the president, you

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know that the White House has back channels. They're talking

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to the Iranian leaders. People are in back channel conversations,

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so maybe the Iranians have actually stopped. But he also

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said we'll find out and then we'll see. So this

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isn't put to bed yet by a long stretch. Another

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foreign policy story that hasn't been put to bed is

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Greenland and the foreign minister is his name, Lars Rasmussen,

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the Danish Foreign Minister, and Vivian Mottsfeld, who is the

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foreign affairs minister for Greenland. We're both at the White

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House today. They met with Jade Evans, the Vice President,

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and with Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, and afterward

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they came out and had this to say.

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Speaker 9: Our in was to find a joint way forward to

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increase Arctic security. What can the Kingdom of Denmark do more?

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What can us do more? What can nature do more?

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The Kingdom of Denmark has already stepped up our own

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contribution by commissing additional fund from military capabilities, not dog slates,

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but ships, drones, fighter jets, et cetera, and we are

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definitely ready to do more. The US has already why

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military access to Greenland under the ninety fifty one Defense Agreement.

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The US can always ask for increasing its presence in Greenland,

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and therefore we wish to hear if the US had

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any further request to make in this aspect, we would

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examine any such request constructibly. Greenland is, through the Kingdom

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of Denmark, a member of NATAL, and has been that

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since the very founding of NATAL in forty nine, and

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is therefore also covered by Article five. We have been

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pushing for quite a while in NATAL for a stronger

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collective role in Greenland, together with a number of allies,

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and we are eager to work with the US on

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advancing this agenda, and we are prepared to go further. Therefore,

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our aim was to find a common understanding on all

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these points and to launch, if possible, further in debt

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work to deliver on them. On this basis, we had

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what I will describe as a frank but also constructive discussion.

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The discussions focused on how to insure the long term

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security in Greenland, and here our perspectives continue to defer.

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I must say the President has made his view clear

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and we have a different position. The Kingdom of Denmark

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continue to believe that also the long term security of

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Greenland can be insured inside the current framework the nineteen

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fifty one Agreement on the Defense of Greenland as well

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as the Nature Treaty for US. Ideas that would not

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respect territorial integrity of the Kingdom of Denmark and the

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right of self determination of the Greenlandic people are of

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course totally unacceptable and we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement.

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But we also agreed to disagree and therefore we will,

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however continue to talk. We have decided to form a

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high level working group to explore if we can find

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a common way forward. The group, in our you should

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focus on how to address the American security concerns while

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at the same time respecting the red lines of the

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Kingdom of Denmark. We expect that such a group will

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meet for the first time within a matter of weeks,

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and then I will pass the floor to my colleague

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from Greenland biban mostart well.

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Speaker 1: In other words, the mini didn't go well. They have

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a disagreement, and so therefore they're going to have a

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working group to work on this. And I don't I

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can't see President Trump, he becomes very impatient on things

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like this. To see him sitting around watching a group

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of diplomats having working talking sessions. Andrews Vistagan he's a

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member of the European Union Parliament and that's essentially mostly

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a bunch of far left people, and he weighed in

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on how Europe is looking at this move by the

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United States.

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Speaker 8: It's frankly quite hard to see how the president can

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be so misguided and frankly not very informed about the situation.

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Greenland already is a member of NATO, and USA have

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gone from having fifteen thousand troops stationed there to only

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one hundred and fifty at the moment. That's a US

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un alesteral decision not to be there. So it was

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important for the security of the US. Why have they

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were drawn? The fact of the matter is that the

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President is very offensive towards the Kingdom of Denmark and

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towards his European allies, and the Kingdom and that is

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a big problem and that fundamentally challenged the status with Nature,

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NATO and our defensive alliance. I don't think he really

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wants to use military force, but I think it is

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a clear mistake by the Damies and Greenland government to

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go to Washington to a meeting when they're threatened with

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this thread of military invasion. I think, quite frankly that

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they should stay away until the time whether the US

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administration makes it clear, let theren't be no military intervention.

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And I think then much should consider to go even

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further and close down the US consulate in Nuke and

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think about how the US embassy in Copenhagen can be

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adjusted accordingly to this thread coming from the US administration.

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Speaker 1: Well, he does make an interesting point. There is this

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nineteen fifty one agreement that was signed when Harry Truman

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was president, and it allows the United States to have

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basically unlimited military operations in the country of Greenland, and

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the president wants to make sure that Greenland is not

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taken over by Russia or China. He says, it's strategically

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very important. They've gotten minerals, but that's another part of

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the story. But what's wrong with using the nineteen fifty

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one agreement and just going ahead and putting more US

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military there if that's what we want. Well, the President

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explained his positions yesterday. Greenland said today, we prefer to

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stay with Denmark.

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Speaker 10: Do you see that as the first show that the

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premiere of Greenland, Well, that's their problem, that's their problem.

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Speaker 1: I disagree with him.

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Speaker 7: I don't know who he is, don't know anything about him,

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but that's going to be a big problem for him.

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Speaker 1: And the president further comments today when the Oval Office

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reporters were hitting him with questions, one was about Greenland, but.

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Speaker 6: It was a very respectful meeting. Are those limits going

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to be disfected?

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Speaker 7: Well, we're going to see what happens with Greenland. We

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need Greenland for national security, so we're going to see

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what happens. They're going to brief me on the meeting

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right after this conference. Take this sooner, I get you

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out the fashion. I'm going to know exactly what happened.

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But we have a very good relationship with Denmark, as

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you know. We'll see. But you know, we're doing the

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Golden Dome, We're doing a lot of things, and we

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really need it. If we don't go in. Russia's going

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to go in, and Channel is going to go in,

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and there's not a thing that Denmark can do about it,

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but we can do everything about it. Well, we're going

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to see I mean, look, we're going to see what happens.

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Speaker 1: But we need it.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm not the first one. This was talked

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about by President Truman in forty years before President Truman,

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they were talking about it. They've been talking about this

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for one hundred years. This is not anything so new.

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A lot of people don't realize that. But this was

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a hot subject. Probably not as odd as it is now,

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but it was a hot subject for a long time.

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We needed for nancial security and that includes for Europe.

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And I spoke with a hero, Mark, the head of NATO,

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and he really wants to see something happen.

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Speaker 6: Now, it sounds like you were saying that you would

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potential acquire Greenland by force. That would be a NATO country.

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Are you saying that?

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Speaker 1: You know you're saying that, would you?

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Speaker 7: I don't say. Now you're telling me that that's what

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I'm going to do.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to do.

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Speaker 6: So where are the options?

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Speaker 1: Your network doesn't know A Danish.

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Speaker 6: Foreign Minister Senate, there's still fundamental differences. After being meeting

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with Mumbio and with the Vice President. Are you even

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willing to leave the NATO Alliance in order to get

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what you want, which Greenland? What are the options really?

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't be telling you what I'm willing to do,

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Sir William. I'm going to give up options. But it's

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very important. Greenland is very important for the national security,

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including of Denmark. And the problem is it's not a

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thing that Denmark can do about it if Russia or

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China wants to occupy Greenland. But there's everything we can do.

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You found that out last week with Venezuela. There's everything

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we can do about things such as that's not going

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to happen. We're not, you know, I can't rely on

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Denmark being able to find themselves off, you know. And

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they were talking about they put an extra dog and

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they were serious about this. They put an extra dog

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sled there. Last month they entered a second dog sled.

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That's not going to do the trick.

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Speaker 6: General fought alongside the United States and the sad gellery

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that I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: I have a very good relationship with Denmark and we'll

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see how it all works out. I think something will

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work out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it continues. I guess we have to wait

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for the for the working groups to have meetings. But

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I don't think the President wants to sit around and

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wait on all of that credit card interest This is

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I thought it was a little bit of a farce.

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It was say something that makes people feel good. It's

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very populous to tap interest rates on credit cards, but

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it will do a lot of damage to people who

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don't have good credit. I will back this up with

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a couple of different bites, and one is Elizabeth Warren.

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She was out giving a speech I'm not sure for

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the last night or the night before, and you know,

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she ripped Donald Trump up one side and down the other.

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And then she President Trump called her after her speech

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and they got talking about credit card interest rates. And well,

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I'll let her explain her side of the conversation.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I was surprised, in fact, I did not recognize

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the phone number. And so the question then is he

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raises the point about a cap on credit card interest rates,

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something that had come up in this speech and that

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I've been working on four years, and that is trying

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to get interest rates down, and he said he wanted

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to work on that, and I said, great, let's get

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something done because my point was, and I made this

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point in the speech, he had not lifted a finger

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to try to get something through on credit card interest

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rate abs. And then while I had them, I said,

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you know there's something else you could do just right away.

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We need to bring down the cost of housing, and

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the way we do that is to increase housing supply

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all across this country. We're three million units of housing short,

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and we need urban housing, rural housing, housing for first

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time home buyers, housing for renters, housing for seniors, housing

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for people with disabilities. So I had worked with Chairman

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Tim Scott, the Republican chair of the Banking Committee. We

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put together a bill that had forty proposals in it,

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every one of them aimed toward increasing supply, making it

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easier to get approvals more on manufactured housing past the

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Senate unanimously, unanimously, and yet goes over to the House

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and the House Republicans won't move it at all, gets

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tangled up over there, and I said, mister President, you

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want to help bring down the cost of housing. Light

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a fire under your House Republicans, get them to move

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this bill. Let's get it signed into law. Un let's

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get started now on a first step on lowering housing costs.

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So been a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: So it is fascinating that Donald Trump picked up the

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phone and called her and she was surprised, and so

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she wants to work with him on getting a cap

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on interest rates. But the second part of it, I

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semi agree with her. I don't know what the facts

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are about the fact that the House Republicans just sat

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on a bill, but she's right. You want to bring

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down the cost of housing, build more the supply. When

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you have a shortage, prices go up. If you can

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reduce that shortage, prices they may still go up, but

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they won't go up anywhere near what the prices have

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been going up over the last ten years. So she

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had the right idea. I can't believe I'm saying that,

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but she had the right idea about increased his supply

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of housing. So how do you do that? Well, the

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government gives incentives to builders to go out there and

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do that. A lot of the hang up for building, though,

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is not at the federal level. It's usually at the

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local level, where you've got local planning commissions and permits

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and fees for them to and the way that a

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property is zoned for housing and all that. So any case,

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I thought it was kind of interesting. But let's go

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back to credit cards and Edward Ross Sorkin was interviewing

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Elizabeth Warren this morning, and I thought his statistics really

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were interesting.

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Speaker 12: Listen, I want to go back to credit cards just

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for a moment, because there is a study by a

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professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Warden School suggesting that

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a ten percent cap could make up to eighty percent

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of customers of credit cards in America unprofitable at the

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current lending rates and credit limits, which suggests that there

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would be a meaningfully meaningful reduction in the amount of

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credit potentially made available to customers if something like this

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were to go into effect.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 11: Well, first, obviously I want to take a look at

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their data, but also just want to start with a

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big picture here. Is there anybody defending thirty six percent

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interest rate on credit cards or twenty eight percent interest

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on credit cards?

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Speaker 1: Well? No, But at the same time, she dodged the

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whole question here with Zorkins said, this is from the

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Wharton School. Eighty percent of credit cards are unprofitable. If

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this banks are not allowed to charge a higher interest

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rate than ten percent, that means eighty percent of the

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credit cards would be pulled. If you are not in

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a top tier credit rating, bye, buy your credit card.

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The going pull them, They're going to end it, and

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they'll and what they'll do is they'll make up the

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fees by by other banking fees somewhere else that you'll pay.

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But this is she she just blinks. She didn't even

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respond to that. And are there people defending the thirty

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six or twenty eight percent interest rates whatever? It is

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not directly, but but if you don't like paying those

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super high rates, Elizabeth Warren went on to talk about

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why don't you get move your account over to a

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credit union or some There's lots of other places that

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have much lower, much lower interest rates. So let the

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let the marketplace prevail. And if you're getting soaked with

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super high interest rates, do a little work and find

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out where you can get a lower interest rate and

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move your account. It's not that hard. So then the

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question about is this even going to happen? Madison Mills.

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She's a reporter for ax Hills. She says she I've

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been in Washington a long time, and she says, this

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probably doesn't have a chance of getting through to be

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passed into a law.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's sort of the flood the zone mentality. But

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it's coming from Washington to Wall Street this time, and

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investors that I talk to say that it's two things

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that are making them sort of shrug off everything coming

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from the President right now. One of them is that

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a lot of these policies that we talk through, it's

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not clear that they're official yet. For example, the President

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talked about a cap on credit card interest rates. The

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bank earnings that are happening this week, which is why

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I'm at home this morning, because I've been on these

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bank earnings calls all morning. The bank CEOs are telling

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us that they are not even pricing out what that

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could look like because they don't necessarily think that's going

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to be a reality. So part of it is a

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thinking that policy is maybe not going to come true.

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And the other thing is the AI rally happening in

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the stock market right now. None of the policies that

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the President has talked through to address the affordability crisis

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would negatively impact the big tech names, and those are

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the companies that are defining the rally in the stock

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market right now. So sources tell me that as long

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as the president's policies don't impact those AI stocks, the

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stock market's going to continue to grind higher.

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Speaker 1: So is the president serious or is he just making

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populous noises? We don't know, But Harry Entton checked on

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credit card debt in America. Here's Harry.

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Speaker 13: It is generating a ton, a ton of interest. Just

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take a look here. Google searches for credit card rycap

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up thirty two hundred percent versus a year ago, up

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like a rocket in every single poll that I have

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looked at. It's an extremely popular policy, and therefore I'm

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not sure about the policy, but it is great at

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this point. Great great, great politics. Why is there so

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much interest in this? Why do I say it's great politics? Well,

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take a look here how Americans feel credit card debt

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is a stress in my life. Look at this. You

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got the majority of Americans fifty five percent say credit

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card debt is a stress in my life. More than that,

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we're cost of living ranks in terms of the top

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issues in terms of what's affecting you and your family.

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It is number one, number one in Paul after Paul

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after Paul. So when you see this, you see a

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majority of Americans saying credit card debt is a stress

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in my life. And you see that in Raking number

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one cost of living in terms of the top issues.

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That is why there's so much interest in something that

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I think a lot of Americans think can address the

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very issue that they feel is numero uno and that

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is the cost of living.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wonder if you could change those questions

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to say, well, if we put a ten percent cap

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on credit card interest rates, you there's an eighty percent

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chance that you'll lose your credit card. And see what

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people say. I don't think they would be all that thrilled.

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They just think that, oh, sure, why not lower my

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interest rates to ten percent? That I understand people's inn

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that's great, but that's not the way it works.

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Speaker 13: So this is another reason why I think this is great.

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Politics is, you know, oftentimes you see the issues that

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divide Americans Liberals and Democrats on one side, Conservatives Republicans

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on the other. But take a look here, percentage with

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credit card debt forty nine percent of Democrats, forty eight

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percent of Independence, and fifty one percent of Republicans. It

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is a bi partisan problem in this country. So all

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of a sudden, Donald Trump is saying, Hey, let me

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find an issue in which I can unite the different

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factions in this country behind something that I am trying

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to propose here. This is it, baby, This is an

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issue that democrats that unites Democrats, Independents, and Republicans. Because

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the percentage with a credit card debt amongst Republicans, Independence,

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and Democrats is pretty much gosh darrn equal.

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Speaker 1: And that's something you basically, what are you pointing out?

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It doesn't matter what your politics is. There's about half

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the people in this country that are stressed out over

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their credit card debt. How did they get there? I

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mean we know how they got there. They spent more

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than they make and they can't pay their credit card

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bills in full every month. Well, since we're talking about money,

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let's take a look at did Wall Street do anything

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pos that of today? The answer is no, there wasn't

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any big drop off for the Dow. We were down again,

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down forty two to close at forty nine thousand.

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Speaker 4: Nine.

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Speaker 1: The S and P felt thirty seven nasdak down two

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hundred and thirty eight. The price of gold was up

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thirty four dollars. People are are switching to gold because

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a lot of people in the global investment world are

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selling the dollar and switching over to gold. They don't

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like all of this Venezuela, Syria, Iran, you name it. No,

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the investors don't like it feels very unstable to them,

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a lot of chaos. So gold went up another thirty

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four dollars today. I believe this is a new record,

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four thousand, six hundred and thirty three dollars for one

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ounce of gold, and oil basic unchanged at sixty one

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dollars for a barrel of oil. That's it for today.

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Thank you for coming by. We'll be back again tomorrow.

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I hope to see you then

