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Speaker 2: They are hard and laughter Di's fight their tears yet

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Speaker 4: Where we are?

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Speaker 2: Why have we not come as far as our homes

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Speaker 3: Is it our fault? Do we explain?

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Speaker 4: The man read along? When our grandparents built, we choose.

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Speaker 3: To live without hiding gill. We admit when we're.

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Speaker 2: Wrong, choosing love instead.

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Speaker 6: We solve ours over.

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Speaker 5: And we don't want one a pallors that they.

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Speaker 3: Could do without getting car before you and you'll before me.

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Speaker 6: It's the ballot that SAIDs free god something we don't

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Speaker 3: It's free that leads.

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Speaker 7: It's where we've been.

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Speaker 8: We don't solve our prob Soon.

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Speaker 6: It'll get worse far for before you lives are described

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Speaker 3: We don't want what our grandparents built. We choose to

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Speaker 2: We admit when we're wrong, choosing love instead, solve our problems.

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Speaker 9: Are friend of battle We don't.

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Speaker 3: Do without gang hotile before you and you before me.

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Speaker 6: It's the belt that sad us freely.

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Speaker 2: We don't want what our grandparents built. We choose to

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live without hiding guilt. We admit when we're wrong, choosing

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Speaker 3: Problems are and we do along water piers, not they

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to do without getting car before you and you before me.

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Speaker 2: It's the ballot that sadas free.

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Speaker 4: That is setus free.

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Speaker 10: Brand new from our friend Nancy Manette, who's been on

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the show a couple of times. She's skyping in from

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Speaker 4: Nancy, are you there?

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Speaker 7: I am, good morning, you two.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, It's it's only me. Jenny is at home.

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if you follow her on social media, and I do.

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Speaker 7: Do you've actually been chatting?

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intense couple of days this week. And so she's home

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home getting so well earned, well deserved rest. But I'm

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a text and uh, the picture from her in front

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of you know, down in in the downtown Manhattan, in

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got teary eyed when I saw her picture because part

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of the lyrics, instead of free, talks about greed. And

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you know, when when our friends and our family and

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our neighbors and even the strangers we've not met yet yet,

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but they're they're citizens of this country, do not have

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access to healthcare, but record profits are being recorded. I'm

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not sure. I'm not sure we're doing it right.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm absolutely completely sure we're doing it wrong. I'm

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Speaker 4: We're doing it wrong.

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 4: But no, I love the song set Us Free, and

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this is new right or this is relative brand new?

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about you know, women and what we've been through and

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lot of fingers, right.

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for the next album. So this is the first read.

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release that will be later this winter, I think early spring.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it is, in fact, we're finishing number four right

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Speaker 7: I wish I could be there right now.

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all becomes such a blur as far as time. I

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time for a lot of people because I absolutely so

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many of us perceived time differently now than we did

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you know we have, life takes us down different roads, right,

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day to day and year to year, life just takes

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of pain, I address topics of you know, a woman

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getting out on her own, address topics of you know,

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we need each other as a community to jump off together,

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so we're each other's cheerleaders and and and set us free.

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pointed it out, you know, as as she was looking

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at even my own career, and how we go out

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and build, build, build, build, build and collect and you know, stuff,

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health cares and and and shots that are that are

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song about what what they thought, you know, they could

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things that happened to you growing up?

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applicable to my life for sure, right, things that happened

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my adult life that people have chosen to lie about,

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right for sure. But actually the underlying tone for this

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my daughter and looking at the state of the world

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in present day and how you know people can just

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get away with criminal behavior. Yes, and as long as

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the dollar is lining our pockets. You know, this is

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a worldwide problem. You know, I could just focus it

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if just to share a song as simple as set

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can't recall exactly what you've said about this, But do

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growing up or is.

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single woman and has really paved the way for a

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lot of us women. But other than my aunt, I

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do not, and not without trying. And I'll tell you

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I went last Christmas. I went to share a Christmas

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song that I had written with my adoptive mother, and

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who just lit me up, just screaming, yelling, you know

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you won't sing about it. I'm like sing about what.

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I'm literally here to share a song about Christmas in

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our hearts all year long, you know, And and I

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in general. But you know, we a lot of us

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that mental illness while they don't get access, right, there

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for them. But the havoc they reak, you know, is real,

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we'll sue you. It's like, well, Merry Christmas. I was

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shocked and I thought, where on earth are they getting

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left and just burst into tears. And they live in

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southern California. So I left, you know, and drove and

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heading to San Diego. And I drove until I got

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to that rest stop that there's a break there on

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the coast, and I just I just bawled, and I

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just thought, wow, you know, I'm hopeful. I believe that

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people can grow and change. And then WHOA, there, I

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did it. I walked right into it. Didn't see it

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coming at all, because I truly went to share a

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song of hope, and part of the Christmas song I wrote,

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Spirit of Christmas focuses on, you know, an older person

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being alone on the holidays. Kids are grown, you know,

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spouses you know are gone for whatever reason, and it

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identifies with my mom. And yet that that wasn't the focus.

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So I figured it out. I figured out why they

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were so upset because I had a promo video that

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talked about being pinned up against a piano at my cabin.

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Would I'm referring to my abusive ex husband and my

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brother literally thought it was him.

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Speaker 4: Oh right right. I remember now when you heard the

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story before it as.

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growing up that had a piano in it, and he Matt,

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he had actually done that, and I had forgotten, and

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so you know, as it's all coming back, and of course,

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you know now I'm calling my my counselor. And I

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was like, wow, okay, you guys are threatening to assue

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me if I continue to sing and share stories and

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bring hope and there's forgiveness for the past. It's the past.

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I can't be doing what I'm doing now. If I

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can't embrace forgiveness and wholeness, I'd be writing a lot

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angrier music. Trust me.

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Speaker 10: You know what's kind of wild is so you have

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something very much in common with another recent guest who

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we had an author, Natalie Moseley Klanad, who was actually

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on last week. So she's an author, and we had

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her on because she had written a book about her

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son has a CRPS complex Regional pain syndrome and which

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is what Jenny has. So you know, that's that's how

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we met Natalie. But she's written several books and one

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of the books she wrote and forgive me, I can't

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remember the exact title, but it has to do with

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her family and the term and I had never heard

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this term before narc attack because I guess I guess her.

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I think it was her mother was was a narcissist,

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and and and and Natalie for you know, for reasons

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not unlike your reasons. Natalie has no relationship with her

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family who she grew up with, and and so narc

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attack refers to, you know, the narcissism that she had

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to endure from her family. And I had never even

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heard that term before, narc attack. I mean, I think

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I think we might have called that when I was

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when I was in high school. You know, if if

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you know, hey, that that kid narked us out, you know,

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we should give him an arc attack for doing that,

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you know, But I'm kidding, uh sort of.

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Speaker 7: But but I think we're in the same age. I

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think it had a very different meaning.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, well I hear the term narc I I

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think of something different but abs but but but some

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of the things And I remember thinking this too as

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Natalie was speaking on the show about her experience. There

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are similarities to to your experience with your family, and

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and I think, if I remember from what she said,

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she has no, no Jesus not able to have any

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relationship with the family that she had growing up.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, you can't because it's it's debilitating and and

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for those of us who've experienced it and then uh

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have grown and healed and we even offer forgiveness. It's

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still extraordinarily pain and debilitating when when you have to

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step back into that and you know, I would absolutely

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put my adoptive brother in the narcissist category. It was

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a huge eye opener for me because I really have

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had no relationship with him since we left the home

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and left high school and we all went out on

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our own. Yea, he actually was very troubled in his

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teens and he should have had narcs called on him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 7: He was, you know, just really in the thick of

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drugs and alcohol and and just really struggled for the

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rest of his life. But you know, my adoptive mother

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has borderline personality disorder, and so that's on the spectrum

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of narcissism. And so you know, somebody's always the bad

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child in that scenario. And you know, it doesn't matter

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how good somebody is as a child or an adult,

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if that is you know, what they're facing with parents

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or siblings, you'll never There's nothing you'll ever do that's

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good enough.

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Speaker 4: You can't win. It's it's an absolutely.

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Speaker 7: There isn't. And so you know, there's a there's a

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very popular belief and it's difficult, Matt, because we want

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to be close to our family, and you know that

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that blood is everything and that you never and I'm like,

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you know what, it's it's not. We deserve to be

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treated with respect, and we deserve to be treated with

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love and kindness and understanding and for how we show

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up in the world. And if our families do not

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give us that and we're under attack or we walk

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into abusive situations even as adults, we don't have to

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stay and we don't have to have relationship.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 10: It's very very and and you talked about it a

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little bit, it's very difficult when you know they're mentally

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ill and you so obviously it's in a sense it's well,

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I shouldn't say in a sense it's not. It's not

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their fault that they're you know that they're mentally ill.

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But so of course you want to have love and compassion,

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especially when it's a family member. But that doesn't mean

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you're obligated to let them drag you down. And it

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also doesn't mean that you know, I mean, you have

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to you have to protect yourself ultimately, and and they

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they may not understand that, especially if there's narcissism involved.

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They won't understand that they're not capable of feeling that

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that empathy. And again it's not their fault, it's how

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their brain is wired. But ultimately, you have to do

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what you have to do.

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Speaker 7: You have to do.

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Speaker 4: You have to protect yourself, you have to protect you know,

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in your case, you have to protect your daughter. You know, yes,

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so uh so, so it's very very tricky. I I

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I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 10: I'm not even sure how I would handle that if

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I were in that situation. I mean, unfortunately, I you know,

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I I have a good relationships with my family. I

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didn't I had, I did have a step parent. I'll

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keep it vague in case they not that I think

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they are listening or care about anything that I do.

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This particular individual I'm thinking of, But I did have

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a step parent growing up who exhibited a lot of

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strange behavior and and in some instances I think, uh

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definitely was unreasonable to deal with shall we say, but

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but but but that individual also was mentally ill. They

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had had a multiple nervous breakdowns and so forth. So

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I try to keep that in mind when I think about,

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you know, certain interactions that I had with that person

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when I look back as an adult or when I

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was growing up, and I would think, well, that's kind

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of messed up, you know, and I don't think I

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deserve it, and I don't think I deserve the way

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I was just spoken to. And you know, I think

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I was being the mature one in the relationship, whereas

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they're the adult. But you know, but but again, I

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try to look back at that with well, I don't

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know what was going on in their head and exactly,

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and I'll probably never understand it. And it's not like

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I have any contact with that person today. I don't

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and haven't for decades, not because of any sort of

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intentional separation.

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Speaker 4: But because just they moved away, and I don't.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm one of those people who I don't

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I'm not the guy who's going to reach out and say, hey,

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we haven't talked in a long time, just seeing how

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you're doing. Not because I don't care, but because I

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just I'm just not the person who does that, you know.

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So if they reached out to me, I would talk

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to them.

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Speaker 4: Certainly. I don't have any anger or resentment.

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Speaker 7: But but well, you know, Matt, that's I love that

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you said that, because even now, if certain boundaries were respected,

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I would have you know, my door is still open.

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It's it's you know, my one of my one of

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my counselors said to me, uh, somebody that I you know,

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you know I've moved and somebody from Washington State that

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I used to see. She said something about, you know,

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as we were working through how to have a relationship

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or what what does it look like in a relationship

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with a family member that's a narcissist, a parent, you know,

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for instance, or borderline personality disorder, And one of the

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things she said was, you know, you have to look

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at yourself like your body or who you are is

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like a castle, right, and you've got this moat around you,

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so this body of water that circles us, right, and

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then you have a drawbridge, and the drawbridge for access

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to you is are those boundaries whatever you need for

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yourself to feel safe emotionally and physically, because you know,

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many of us I have been the subject of not

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just extreme emotional abuse, I have been the subject of

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extreme physical abuse. And so now do I fear physical

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abuse from my eighty five year old mother today? No,

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of course, not the emotional absolutely, do I physically you know,

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when I was in the presence of my adoptive brother,

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did I absolutely fear for my life physically? Yes, he

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was off the chart, like just crazy and angry. I

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was like, wow, I felt like I was, you know,

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thirteen years old again. But there's access for relation ship

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if these boundaries are kept, and if you do not

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keep these boundaries, the drawbridges up and you do not

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have access to me. So I have lowered my drawbridge

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many times and said, hey, here is how you have

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access to a relationship with me. And they are constantly violated. Yeah,

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and so like even this year, Matt I got a

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Christmas card and I kind of joke. I'm like, gosh, Mom,

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could you just leave it to Hallmark? Just leave the

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sentiment to Hallmark. We do not need to add this

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is the second year in a row nastiness, right, And

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I keep thinking of like, but I wrote Spirit of

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Christmas for you. Oh, I'm like, okay, let's move on.

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And but yeah, I think that that's you know, where

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I land on it. You know, I know and I

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respect some of my friends who have like zero we

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have no contact with Okay, you know, we all have

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to do what we need to do to feel safe

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for ourselves and for the loved ones around us that

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you know, whether they you know, my kids are grown

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and gone, but I'm still a mom. Yeah, I'm still

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very protective of and they can fight their own battles.

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But you know, I think all of us who have kids,

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you know, it doesn't matter if they're thirty plus. Touched

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my kid and you're going to see a.

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Speaker 4: Whole different person, right of course. Of course?

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 10: Do you hear as you've released because you've released how

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many albums do you have at this point? You've released

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a few, right, So I have.

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Speaker 7: Only released the debut, but I've got you know them

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in Q.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, gotcha?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So since the debut and by the way, one

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of them was considered for a Grammy nomination.

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Speaker 4: Is that correct?

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Speaker 7: The or a Grammy consideration. So the Nancy it's it's

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self titled, so it's Nancy Manet and it's my debut album,

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the one that I came in and chatted with you

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about those couple of times that did receive Grammy consideration

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this year and for Best Rock Album and Best Engineering

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Non Classical, And I would be I would not be

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honest with you, Matt if I wasn't surprised, and you know,

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my producer laughs, he goes, you shouldn't be so surprised, Aunty.

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It was good stuff, and I was like, yeah, but

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you know, I mean, I'm in a sea of genius

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and I've just and I love artists, and I'm cheerleading

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all of us on, you know, in our art and

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to receive that so early on in releasing what I'm writing, right,

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I'm not early on in my musical performance or even career.

477
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,160
I've been playing for years, you know, you and I've talked.

478
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,799
I mean, that was part of that's part of my story.

479
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,400
I played, you know, under the threat of vice lens

480
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,960
in my home growing up, after my dad died, I

481
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:07,079
could not play piano when anyone was home. It was

482
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,079
never going to happen. And then I picked up a small,

483
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:14,720
little acoustic guitar from a garage sale for five bucks

484
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:17,400
with the pitch pipe and learned to play guitar at

485
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,119
two in the morning, you know, as a teenager having

486
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,000
to go to school at seven am. I think I

487
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:27,119
slept through my first three periods every day my junior

488
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,640
and senior year of high school because I was up

489
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,480
playing guitar and so I'm not new to the world

490
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:38,119
of music, but I'm new to writing and releasing my

491
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:44,200
own music, and so it was an extraordinary honor and

492
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:49,640
just to be considered with a group of amazing artists.

493
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:55,599
Speaker 4: So no, that's remarkable. Do you hear from people who

494
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,079
identify with the themes of your songs?

495
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 7: Yes? In fact, I hear from women on about the

496
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,599
song that I wrote called Wanted and how I got

497
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,880
free of an abusive relationship and I really just kind

498
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,720
of hit it straight on. And I hear from a

499
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,359
lot of men about don't let her ruin you. Yeah, crying,

500
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,240
thank you, Oh my gosh, how did you know? You

501
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:35,880
wrote a song about our life? And that means more

502
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,119
to me than anything, you know, because that's what it's for.

503
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,519
It's to relate and hopefully other people identify and find

504
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:49,319
their own path right to what makes them whole, right

505
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:53,200
and the freedom within that. Yeah. I also heard from

506
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,640
actually belonged to a group called Serendipity Doudan. It's a

507
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,400
Mama Bears group for uh mamas that are the parents

508
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,559
of lgbt q i A children and even adult children,

509
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:15,000
and and they were very excited about the song My Expansion,

510
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,880
which was about my daughter coming out as queer and

511
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:21,480
changing me early in her in her life.

512
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 10: So yeah, that's probably relatable for for so many people.

513
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,119
So that makes sense. I'm not surprised that you've heard

514
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:32,880
from people about that.

515
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was when you say that changed to you?

516
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,480
How did did it?

517
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 10: Did it just kind of give you a different perspective

518
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,319
on uh, because you'll often hear people say, you know,

519
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,200
I had certain ideas about what, you know, what it

520
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,680
was like to be lgbt Q plus or whatever, and

521
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,440
then and then a family member comes out and it

522
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,440
and you kind of go, I think for a lot

523
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:57,559
this is my perception is I think for a lot

524
00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:58,039
of people it.

525
00:32:58,119 --> 00:32:58,359
Speaker 4: Kind of.

526
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 10: I'm thinking, I mean, we don't we don't really get

527
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,279
into politics on this iteration of the show, but I'm

528
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:06,920
thinking of a couple of so I'll be a little

529
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,359
bit vague, but there are a couple of well known,

530
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:17,000
very conservative politicians who have at various points come out

531
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:21,920
as being pro marriage equality because they had children who

532
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,680
were gay and it so on that one issue they

533
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,920
departed from their conservatism because having a family member who's

534
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,279
gay kind of makes you go, oh, okay, so real

535
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,680
human beings can be this way, and I love this person.

536
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,440
And because I love this person and they are this way,

537
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,119
I guess being this way is okay, you know, for

538
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,680
lack of a better way of putting it. So, I mean,

539
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:49,599
I'm curious how it changed you when your daughter came out.

540
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,079
Speaker 7: So so I love what you just everything you just said, Matt,

541
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:56,400
even that this is not a political show, right, I'm

542
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,480
I'm not a for I got. I would describe myself

543
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:05,960
as I am not a political activist. I look at

544
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,559
myself and what I mean by that, I mean, while

545
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:11,400
I have my belief systems, and I absolutely support my

546
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:16,800
friends like Jen right absolutely stand there for your healthcare rights.

547
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,400
But I'm a writer and I'm a bridge builder, and

548
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,159
you know, we all have our places. What I stand

549
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,960
next to Jen for her fight, you bet you you know.

550
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:30,000
But there's a different level of I think when people

551
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,440
like that's their purpose in life is that they are

552
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:35,199
on the front lines in some of these fights. For me,

553
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,559
I'm I if anything that I write just get people

554
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:47,000
to think, being able to have conversations, whether or not

555
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,280
we one hundred percent agree with each other, That's not

556
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,239
what this is about We were never even I mean,

557
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,400
humans were never intended to one hundred percent agree. We

558
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,920
were intended to figure things out and come to solution

559
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,800
that work. Right. So if whatever I write can create

560
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:08,800
a people that maybe are thinking about it, but then

561
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,079
oh okay, well let's have a discussion about these topics

562
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,239
like this one. We don't have to make it extremely political,

563
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,760
even though it can divide us politically.

564
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 10: Right.

565
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:30,199
Speaker 7: But I was raised very conservative, very rigid, right, wrong,

566
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:34,639
black white. I mean it was intense and very I

567
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:44,320
mean rigid, religious conservative, And so I entered the world

568
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:49,280
as an adult with this. That's all I knew was

569
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,880
that was the way. There's one and it's this one, right,

570
00:35:54,599 --> 00:36:00,360
And then I have this beautiful baby girl who just

571
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:03,760
from the day of birth, she just wrote her own way.

572
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:06,840
I mean it was like and as she got older,

573
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:12,320
I watched other friends who were rigid and conservative and

574
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:19,920
ultra I call it like a damaging religion, religious religiosity right, uh,

575
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,360
where it's an US versus them and there's very little inclusivity.

576
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,840
And whether listeners or you know, anybody that I talked

577
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,679
to lean towards religion at all, I would say the

578
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,760
overarching message in healthy religions.

579
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: Is love, right, Yeah, that's.

580
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 7: Love one another.

581
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,159
Speaker 10: I think, I think, uh, I think Jesus might have

582
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,280
even said something about that.

583
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 4: Possibly correct, he might have. I don't know, perhaps so.

584
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 7: And so here is this young girl five years old,

585
00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:59,599
and she's already challenging me on my belief systems. And

586
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:03,840
I'm watching friends who had the same upbringing, conservative, rigid

587
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,559
religious ultra, you know, the unhealthy sides of religion, and

588
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:13,119
they're losing their kids, and the kids are getting older

589
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:15,960
and kids are starting to rebel. And I thought, you know,

590
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Hannah really challenged just from the time she was little.

591
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:27,519
Why why why? Why why do you think that way?

592
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,280
Because you know, and then as parents, because that's what

593
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,280
I was taught, therefore we teach that to you. And

594
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,840
I was like, yeah, I don't know if I like

595
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,440
that answer, right, And then we also are the famous

596
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,199
line of parents because I said.

597
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: So, why well, well, uh?

598
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,639
Speaker 7: And I taught her early on, I said, look, if

599
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:54,480
you disagree with me, we have just a few ground rules,

600
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,000
and you can always come and talk to me about

601
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,920
a decision I made, or even a thought process. It's

602
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,079
you know, a decision based upon a thinking way of thinking.

603
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,719
You can come and talk to me about it. And

604
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:14,440
if you present your case respectfully, articulately, with no with

605
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:20,960
no temper tantrum, I promise you, excuse me, I promise

606
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:25,000
you I will consider and change my mind. If I

607
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:29,360
said notice something, I will I will absolutely consider and

608
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:33,480
change it to yes. However, if you come and screaming,

609
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,760
the answer is a hard no, and you will not

610
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,119
even we will not even talk.

611
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:37,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

612
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 7: So I'm serious, Matt five years old on. I think

613
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,639
I raised the greatest debater of all times.

614
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

615
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 7: And so so when she challenged, let's go bring that

616
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,599
back to a circle. So when she challenged me, why mom?

617
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:56,199
As she got older and she came out as queer,

618
00:38:57,639 --> 00:38:59,800
I was like, oh, okay, And I had already been

619
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,519
evolving and changing, and I've been asking questions of like

620
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,480
and I'd have to be quiet if I was, you know,

621
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,679
in a group of people who did not accept LGBTQ

622
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,920
I a right. I actually had to be quiet because

623
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:20,920
if I stood up for my daughter or that community

624
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:26,440
at the time, I was subject to judgment and right.

625
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:28,639
And so that took a long time for me to

626
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:31,960
really kind of walk through. And I watched and then

627
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:36,199
had continual conversations with my daughter, and I grew I

628
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,719
just that's you know. So No, I didn't actually have

629
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:45,719
a really open understanding of how parents could change their

630
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,199
belief systems until my daughter really just kept asking why.

631
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,360
And then I thought, well, because that's the way it

632
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,480
was at my family table growing up. So let me

633
00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:00,519
think about do I believe what they taught?

634
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:01,199
Speaker 3: Uh?

635
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 7: Maybe I don't. What other belief systems are out there?

636
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,079
And what are other you know, sides of the political

637
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:12,079
spectrum even saying, let me listen to what they have

638
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000
to say. Yeah, And all of a sudden, I entered

639
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,039
a very different phase of my life. And I call

640
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:22,320
it balanced, I suppose now. Of course I lean way.

641
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:24,639
Of course I lean more liberal than I ever did.

642
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:29,519
Do I have some conservative thought processes? Still? Sure, you know,

643
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,840
born and raised in it, you you have thoughts and ideas.

644
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:37,639
But I look at it very differently today, and and

645
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,400
I'm curious to see how any side of the political

646
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,519
spectrum is going to help solve what we're facing in

647
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:48,440
our country and as on a world stage, we have

648
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:52,039
to solve it. People are starving, people need medical care,

649
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:57,920
people need housing, three basic needs. And I don't I

650
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,519
don't think it's just because you know, there are varying

651
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,559
degrees of how people can earn and how people can

652
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:08,920
make a living. And I don't think that if you

653
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:10,960
can't make a living the way I do, you shouldn't

654
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000
have a roof over your head. Do I have the answers?

655
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:17,840
I don't. But you know, bring this back full circle. This,

656
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,840
you know, young adult still has very challenging conversations. And

657
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,079
one of the conversations we had that led me into

658
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:32,840
writing Set Us Free was, Mom, we don't want what

659
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:35,679
you built. Well, I don't understand what that means. Look

660
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,840
at your life, mom, because I've been in business my

661
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,960
whole life for myself. Yeah, since you've spent your whole

662
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:44,840
life grinding, grind, grind, grind, and you've built, and you've

663
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,960
built and you've built. You know, we always upgrade our

664
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,920
homes and then we buy investment homes or we have

665
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,159
investment you know, retirement. Since she said, we don't want that.

666
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,039
We want to live in community, We want to take

667
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:58,320
care of each other. We don't want to be what

668
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,880
you guys have built. I don't know if you understand that.

669
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,800
It's like, oh, and I tell you, Matt, it actually

670
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,760
caused me to think about what I build and even

671
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,719
present day, Like as early as this setis Free song

672
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,480
was written last year. It's like, huh, I could go

673
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:22,280
about life that's without the grind. I don't have to grind, grind,

674
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,400
grind rite. Whoa. So here's this thirty two year old,

675
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:32,519
you know, beautiful human, still challenging her mom, you know.

676
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,800
And then and then you know, I don't know if

677
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,800
I told you this when I saw you last, but

678
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,119
I got hit really hard by Hurricane Beryl, and I

679
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,159
had to come home from tour and really adjust the

680
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,360
latter half of my last year. And I sat my

681
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,800
kids down and I said, how do you feel about

682
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,760
me downsizing and moving and making life a lot simpler?

683
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:55,559
And they're like, we're all for it.

684
00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 9: Mom.

685
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, because because you know, I would like to

686
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,079
be to be on the road for months on end

687
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,039
and not have to worry about the thing that you know,

688
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,480
we all want to hang on to, and and for me,

689
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,119
it was just too much. And I thought, but that's

690
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:15,079
a conversation with my kid that because I'm open to

691
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,039
thinking about things differently, well, I agree with everything. No,

692
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:22,000
do I even understand it. She's discussed economics with me,

693
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:23,760
and it's gone over my head. In fact, i've not

694
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,599
because I economics go over my head.

695
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 14: Her economics go over my head, right right, I understand

696
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:34,880
current economics macro and micro, you know, but as she

697
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,559
described how economics could could change, I actually did say

698
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:42,440
to her, I said, okay, you know when we had

699
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:45,719
the you know, the gay and queer conversation early on

700
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,960
in life, and I asked you lots of questions, I said,

701
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:51,280
now I want to even ask you more because this

702
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,639
is like speaking Greek to me.

703
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 7: You can think about how we go about our economy

704
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,360
totally different, and people can take care of each other

705
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,719
in a way that's sustainable. My mind was just blown

706
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,079
when we initially started having those conversations. So I've made

707
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,000
her promise. I said, you know, as many times as

708
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,199
I ask you questions, please stay patient. Right. You know,

709
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,679
we have these roadmaps in our brain, right. I think

710
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,079
anybody that has done any kind of therapy we get

711
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,079
you know, this even is how we see the world.

712
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:27,679
We have a roadmap. And if we were raised to

713
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,719
see the roadmap in a certain way, you know, especially

714
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,000
about how economy is built or world power is built,

715
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and it's a very difficult mindset to change. Yes, but

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it's possible to rewrite those roadmaps if we slow down

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and listen and are open to having these conversations and bosh,

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if I can create those in the music that I

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write and then also bring hope. I think most of

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what I write, if not all, of what I write,

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ultimately ends with some type of hope statement within it.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes, I have noticed that. Absolutely, Absolutely, Nancy, we're

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gonna have to start. The time goes so quickly, we're

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gonna have to start to wrap up. Unfortunately, I wish,

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I wish we had more time. It's it's always such

726
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a great conversation with you, and I think, if you

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don't mind, I'm going to close the segment with because

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we were talking about this song my expansion. I think

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that would be I think that would be a great

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way to close. And of course we opened with the

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new single set us Free and absolutely, and we should

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remind people too before you go where they should go

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online to keep up with everything that you're doing.

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Speaker 4: And of course Matt, that's very kind of course.

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Speaker 7: Yes, So please find me on social media. I am

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very active on Facebook. So if you find Nancy MiNet,

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m a n e T. I have a verified check mark.

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You'll see me sitting at a piano. Please follow, Please

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send me a direct message. I respond to all of them.

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Just let me know that you you know, heard me here.

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And then my website as well. We're in the process

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of updating, so if you fill out information with an email,

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but in the next couple of weeks, a refreshed websitees

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going up with the new material and a new traveling schedule,

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things like that. So that's at Nancymanet dot com. I'm

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also on Instagram, but I'm newer to Instagram. I joke

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about it. It's because my age my age group was

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heavily invested in Facebook. Yes, so I try to cross

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post and do all that. And then you know, also

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I'm uploading things to YouTube. You know, I'm not a

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I'm not a millennial or a gen z. So we're

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we're I'm figuring out that other side of communications, you know,

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every day.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I just got to be as many as

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many places as possible.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, I've been thinking about doing more with TikTok. No

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I'm kidding, obviously, it's about it's about to go dark.

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For anyone who doesn't know you want to know.

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Speaker 7: It's funny, Matt is. I tried so hard to share

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on the TikTok, but every single time I upload stuff

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that's not your music, you can't. I'm like, I even

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had to send information into their legal department all that

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you're not that's not yours. I'm like, I'm the copyright owner.

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Please let me, please let me upload.

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Speaker 4: My music exactly I have.

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Speaker 7: It's like, really, yeah, unused TikTok account. But yes, that

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is actually funny, Matt. Yeah, well or not, I mean,

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however we want to see it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, I actually feel badly for a lot

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of people, but yeah, but uh no, it'll be it'll

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be interesting to see what happens next with that.

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Speaker 4: But Nancy Manet, thank you so much. Always such a

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pleasure to have you on.

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Speaker 10: I always enjoy the discussion, and thank you absolutely and

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00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,599
congratulations on everything. And uh, we'll let you go, and

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we'll close out, uh with this song my expansion. And

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then for those of you listening live on Saturday, Quincy

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Raymond is coming up next. He's going to play live

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in studio for us.

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Speaker 4: But we'll let you go. Nancy, thank you again so much.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Thank you Matt, and much love to Jen.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you you both. Okay, thank you, bye bye,

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all right, the great Nancy Manet. And here it is.

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This is called my expansion. This is a this is

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a really good song.

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Speaker 2: You to the world. Okayver except status quod today, blaze

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the trail that was all your old even though being queer,

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it's not well known when on those are wearing Hollo

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shirts you are tattooed.

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Speaker 7: On under your skirt.

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Speaker 2: Being like that, okay, you'll begs to proceed.

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Speaker 4: In your special way. O Harbie Hicks Band.

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Speaker 5: Dry Harby.

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Speaker 3: It's bad.

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Speaker 5: You taught me to think.

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Speaker 2: That the world was not ass rigid ass I show

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it to be.

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Speaker 3: You have been my eyes. There is so much more to.

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Speaker 2: Conceiveer than allys before.

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Speaker 7: You don't believe.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what I do has engage no world. It's the

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authentic you.

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Speaker 6: Your path is your path.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 7: Might judge.

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Speaker 5: My job is to love you, love run about harmy

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expert job harm I expand jump.

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Speaker 2: That's a mess.

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Speaker 1: Haircuts on.

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Speaker 7: How long?

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Speaker 16: So we run both ash everywhere the time I have said, dropped.

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Speaker 4: Back and call I am ever by your side.

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Speaker 3: That's all right.

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Speaker 4: He's spinning around.

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Speaker 7: The Holy Sanitizer stops play.

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Speaker 4: Nott's coming any day. So it's a rider.

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Speaker 7: There's a shock, drop wat shirt, just keep.

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Speaker 4: That's past.

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Speaker 9: Haircuts all it is coming from the guys.

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Speaker 1: U where she's all my eyes.

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Speaker 7: But another time we have come father.

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Speaker 1: To describe to suit de kay.

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Speaker 4: We stand to the digness contempt h turn.

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Speaker 7: And lands to see that we have a cossic.

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Speaker 13: That past.

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Speaker 4: Had got.

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Speaker 7: So here we are.

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Speaker 5: The journey said all that ends.

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Speaker 13: Of course we forgot why it began.

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Speaker 4: That does matter, and there are openers.

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Speaker 9: Should me that everything you still think that there's a

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god has some buns. Way from the bar fasts, it

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comes fire.

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Speaker 1: Its coming in from the skies.

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Speaker 5: Lushing because.

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Speaker 3: All the time.

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Speaker 2: Kind of tie.

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Speaker 4: I got, kind of ball shot the skies, as Suti

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were not know the time, God of tie,