WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:26.760 For those who don't know me, I'm Graham Hancock. 2 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:33.759 I've been exploring the possibility of a lost civilization in 3 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:39.880 prehistory for more than thirty years. Archaeology claims that if 4 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:43.679 there were such a thing as a lost civilization, they 5 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:50.000 would have found it already. Well, I profoundly disagree with that, 6 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:54.159 and now my quest continues. 7 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:01.039 In a part of the world often over. That's the 8 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:05.400 new Ancient Apocalypse season two with Graham Hancock. I've been 9 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:08.400 chopping at the bit to talk about that, and I 10 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.560 was told by Graham I needed to be quiet until 11 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:17.000 it's released. It's going to be on Netflix October sixteenth, 12 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:20.560 and would you believe it features our own doctor Ed 13 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:26.040 Barnhard as well as a list stars Keanu Reeves. Now, 14 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.640 that is a huge actor to be speaking with Graham Hancock, 15 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:34.120 but he is you'll see in the movie that he 16 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.439 is a longtime fan. And not only have Graham Hancock's 17 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:42.159 but the whole question about history, it's essence and really, 18 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:43.959 you know, I mean, he comes up with a lot 19 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:49.079 of issues himself about questioning history. So I've been, like 20 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.079 I said, I've been very quiet about this and I'm 21 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:58.040 very excited it's on the Americas. It's Ancient Apocalypse the Americas. 22 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:02.159 And again it starts October sixteenth. Now this is a 23 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:07.040 huge deal because the last time Graham was on this series, 24 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.199 we were a part of it. I was helping out 25 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:15.319 with the producer. But it actually gardnered around forty million 26 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:21.039 people and upset the archaeological community, most notably the university 27 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:25.479 levels to no end and they wrote skating letters and 28 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:31.800 reviews and even asked the producers to remove the series 29 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:38.199 from Netflix. And I mean, obviously it didn't happen, but 30 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.639 you know, when you get a huge star, you have 31 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:44.599 a good lineup, it's even gonna be seen by even 32 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.080 more people. They're gonna be wondering why is this guy 33 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:52.840 on there with Graham Hancock. So there you go, October sixteenth. 34 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.120 We're gonna have Graham on the program in December following 35 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.439 the release. At this point it is probably gonna be 36 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.000 mid December. It's part of our Best of the Best 37 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:05.719 that we do every December on Earth Ancients. So I'm 38 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:09.639 really excited about this, and it looks like there's an 39 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:14.319 opportunity to do even more programming. Netflix didn't have any 40 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.719 idea that it would be this popular, but it just 41 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:23.240 shows you how the public perceives our history and most 42 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:28.319 notably how it's presented to everyone, not only in history books, 43 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:33.560 but National Geo, the Smithsonian, even the History Channel is 44 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:38.759 put on notice that, hey, what you're presenting is you know, hypothesis, 45 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.439 it's guesswork, and we need to revise some of the 46 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.439 portions of history that we're not sure of, notably ancient history. 47 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.800 And this is where Graham and people like Randall Carlson 48 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:52.960 and many of the people we have here on this program, 49 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:58.240 doctor Robert Shock and others present that you know, we're guessing. 50 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:03.120 We're guessing at what was happening four thousand, five thousand, 51 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:08.000 and six thousand and then this global catastrophe which was 52 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:12.159 nine thousand, five hundred BC when an asteroid hit and 53 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:18.000 very much disrupted the planet, and the guestimate is probably 54 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.360 around eighty percent of humanity and what they call the 55 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:29.920 MegaFon of the big animals were eradicated, were killed, and 56 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.800 what happens is that the planet had to reboot, had 57 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:40.040 to restart itself. And this is where we believe places 58 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:47.600 like go Beckley, Tepe, Carahan, Teppe were launched as rehabilitation 59 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:51.040 centers where people would go and learn how to farm, 60 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:56.680 learn how to look at the seasons through the astronomical 61 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:02.439 alignments of planets, the Sun, the moon, and the other 62 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:07.560 planet's animal husbandry, you know, keeping breeding animals for food 63 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:14.959 and so on. And so this whole idea that we 64 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:19.480 know about our ancient past, or as the academics like 65 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.839 to say, we don't know. And so what Graham is 66 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:28.120 proposing evidence of a lost civilization or perhaps many civilizations 67 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:31.800 isn't valid. And this is their argument is that because 68 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.680 and this has been going on for decades, because we 69 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:40.040 can't find any potshards or evidence of this earlier civilization, 70 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:46.040 be it Atlantis, Limoria, dogger Land, or so or whatever, 71 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.639 they're not valid. They're not valid. Now. I've been talking 72 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:55.639 about this for since day one, and my latest theory 73 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:59.720 is that a lot of these temples, pyramids and other 74 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:05.399 ructures were were used. They were there and developed and 75 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:09.759 designed by this early civilization, and then they were left 76 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:16.399 vacant following the cataclysm and then repurposed, reused. We talk 77 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:21.920 about Egypt all the time, and like the Hathor Temple 78 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.920 and the Great Pyramids, they were reused. You know, they 79 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:28.439 didn't have the technology because the technology was lost. The 80 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:34.160 people who operated these places were all killed. And you 81 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:37.600 know when we go to the Serapim and Abidos and 82 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:44.199 you see these massive granite boxes, how in the hell 83 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.759 they get them underground? Who carved them? So this is 84 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:50.120 all evidence and this is what we have here on Earth. 85 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.959 Things is we have a lot of evidence of early 86 00:06:53.079 --> 00:07:01.879 technology without understanding how the buildings, the artifacts were created. 87 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.959 So we're in a guestimate mode. We're slowly coming back 88 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:10.480 to being able to identify some of this tech as 89 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:15.720 our own science and technology evolves. But to say flat 90 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.759 out that it doesn't exist just because we can't identify it, 91 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.839 and this is where a lot of our academic brothers 92 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:27.639 and sisters fall is kind of disingenuous and also not 93 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:33.439 very smart. And these programs like our Ancient Apocalypse show 94 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:40.079 that a huge population of our public are questioning history 95 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:44.800 as well. And this is what gets the archaeologists so upset. Archaeologists, 96 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:51.040 anthropologists and egyptologists. So there you go. Netflix. Ancient Apocalypse 97 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.920 Season two starts October sixteenth. We'll have Grandma on the 98 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:59.399 program in December, and we'll also have Ed Barnhard on 99 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:02.600 the show in October. He'll be talking about one of 100 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.560 the series, by the way, which is Easter Island Ed. 101 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:09.120 Barnhart will be on the program in October to talk 102 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:12.480 about and that will also be a prelude to those 103 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:18.040 of you who will be joining me March fifteenth for 104 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:21.399 a private tour of Easter Island. If you want more information, 105 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:26.160 you can go to Earthagents dot com forward Slash Tours 106 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:31.720 and get all the information and details. Hey, my guest 107 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:36.720 today is Johannah James. She is a actress and comedian 108 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:42.000 but also a prehistory buff. She was the Master of 109 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:47.080 Ceremonies at the recent Cosmic Summit in North Carolina, and 110 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:49.519 I was trying to get her in June to come on, 111 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:53.000 but she was just too busy doing other projects and 112 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:57.519 wasn't available. So she is our guest today, and I 113 00:08:57.559 --> 00:08:59.840 gotta tell you she is not only very bright, but 114 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:03.240 she's got a couple of really good programs. She's got 115 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:08.440 a podcast called Raiders of the Past Pod, who she 116 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:11.480 co presents with Luke Caverns. We've had Luke on the 117 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.120 program a couple or at least a couple of times. 118 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.639 And also she's got a really nice YouTube channel called 119 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:24.799 Funny Old World and Oldest spelled Old that thing has 120 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.919 about about a quarter of a million viewers and is 121 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.559 very very up to date and fun to watch. So 122 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:38.159 today's program is Ancient Anomalies and my guest is Johannah James. 123 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:45.200 Each year, Earth the Ancients supports a number of conferences. 124 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:49.600 We have spring conferences. We just finished with the Cosmic 125 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:53.559 Summit in North Carolina, which was very successful, and we 126 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:58.559 also support conferences in the fall to SEAPAC conference which 127 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:04.440 stands for Conference on Precision and Ancient Knowledge. It's produced 128 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:09.919 by Walter Kronaden who is in California, and we have 129 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:11.840 Walter on the program. We want to learn a little 130 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.879 bit about this upcoming conference. So Walter, welcome to Earth 131 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.000 the Ancients. How you doing fantastic? Thanks for having me 132 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.559 on again. Hey, talk a little bit about this year's 133 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:27.440 theme and what your idea is in terms of producing 134 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:29.519 the conference for twenty twenty four. 135 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:35.080 Yes, we've been holding this conference, you know, almost every 136 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.039 year for the last twenty years or so, and it's 137 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.240 called the Conference on Procession and Ancient Knowledge, and it 138 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:50.000 looks into the idea that ancient cultures, if there really 139 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.919 is a cycle of the ages, may have been more 140 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:58.279 advanced than heretofore believed, and so we always try to 141 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:02.200 have speakers that you know, are traveling around the world 142 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:06.960 going to ancient sites and studying this subject that can 143 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.840 bring new knowledge back to us and kind of give 144 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:14.399 us their reports so we can understand different facets of 145 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:17.919 this whole cycle of the ages and ancient cultures that 146 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:20.879 may have actually had higher consciousness at one time. 147 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:23.159 Right, So what's the theme for this year? 148 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:29.600 The theme this year is actually a look at higher 149 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:35.200 consciousness in the in the higher cultures. Yeah, so it's 150 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.720 you know, this this belief is that there's this great year. 151 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.600 So just as you have the cycle of day and night, 152 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:47.000 you know, driven by a celestial motion, and you have 153 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.960 this cycle of the seasons we're all familiar with, driven 154 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:55.080 by the year's most celestial motion around the sun. So 155 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:58.679 too do many ancient cultures believe that we have this 156 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.679 thing called the Great that was Plato's term for it 157 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:06.039 in Greece, and the Indians called it the Yuga cycle, 158 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:13.159 this alternating dark and golden ages. And you know, and 159 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.879 if it's true, which we believe it is, then there 160 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:20.120 should be evidence of higher cultures in the very ancient past. 161 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:25.120 And we think this explains how certain things were built 162 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:29.679 and certain knowledge that was definitely lost during the Dark Ages. 163 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:34.840 You know how when we look at the historical record, 164 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:38.120 we find optics in ancient Greece and they go completely 165 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:42.279 away until they're rediscovered or we find geared devices to 166 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.840 get their device. It goes completely away in the Dark 167 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:49.039 Ages until it's brought back in the clockmaking era or 168 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:52.600 the Baghdad battery, you know, goes completely away and reinvented 169 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:57.639 by Volta. And so same thing. The heliocentric system was 170 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.559 taught in ancient Greece, it was gone, and then Copernicus 171 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:04.240 brings it back. And so you know, if they did 172 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:07.960 have a higher consciousness in the very distant past, what's 173 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:10.840 it all about? And how do we find out about it? 174 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:15.919 And one source is the ancient Greek writings and the 175 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:21.360 ancient Indian writings. They talk about the higher ages. The 176 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:25.120 Greeks called it the Silver and Golden Age, and Indians 177 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:28.039 called it, of course, the Treaty Yugen, the Sachi Yuga. 178 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:34.279 But Hesiod, the most famous Greek historian, speaks of the 179 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:38.879 long lost Golden Age, even lost in his time, and 180 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:42.440 you know he was a thousand BC as a time 181 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:47.440 when mankind lived in perfect attuinement with nature, she gave 182 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:51.240 of herself freely. You didn't even have to farm because 183 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:57.279 it's you know, nature is just so proficient and man 184 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:01.120 is virtuous and this sort of thing. And then and 185 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.679 as things go downhill, we kind of get into you know, 186 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:11.600 we lose telepathy and clairvoyance and writing is required once again, 187 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.240 you know, post babbel age. So it's it's a different 188 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.799 take on history for sure, but it's it's interesting and 189 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:25.879 there's a lot of anecdotal information out there, and so yeah, 190 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:27.360 we have some great speakers on it. 191 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:27.639 You know. 192 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:32.759 Graham Hancock was our keynote speaker last year, which we 193 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:36.919 had talked about, and Robert Shock is our keynote speaker 194 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:37.399 this year. 195 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.480 Fantastic. Yeah, yeah, you got Robert Shock, you got Freddie Silva. 196 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:48.639 Of course, we just interviewed Joseph Selby and Ben van 197 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.440 Kirkwick is joining you have you had been on. 198 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:55.759 Before, just once before, and yeah, he's a terrific speaker, 199 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:57.679 and he's always traveling all around the world. 200 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:01.440 So he's in Egypt quite a bit. He's fascinated by Egypt, 201 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:05.279 and we had him on recently and he was speaking 202 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.960 about some of the antiquities related to that part of 203 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:14.240 the world. Fantastic. It's going to be not in the desert. 204 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:19.320 It's going to be in Nevada City, California, October eighteenth 205 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:23.879 of the nineteenth and real quickly, how do people get 206 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:26.799 to the Vada City. They get through there by via 207 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:29.600 if they fly via Sacramento, right. 208 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.559 Yes, yes, it's about an hour and fifteen hour and 209 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:34.200 twenty minutes out of Sacramento. 210 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:36.600 Okay, nice drive because. 211 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:38.399 You know the last half is sort of through the 212 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.759 forest and it's pret beautiful. We're actually holding it at 213 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:47.799 Ananda Village, which is this eight hundred acres of mostly 214 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:52.240 yogis and meditators. They have really cool buildings and temples 215 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:57.159 and meditation places, and so we're holding it in one 216 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:02.799 of the temples there. We have a terrific camera audio 217 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.720 video staff, so it'll be just as professional as we've 218 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:10.399 done in any hotel. But the setting in nature, so 219 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:13.559 people in the Brakes can go out and you know, 220 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:17.600 really enjoy the place. We think lends itself to this 221 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:19.679 theme of life in the higher ages. 222 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:24.799 Perfect. Okay. So to get more information, you can go 223 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:30.600 to cpack online dot com and it lays out the 224 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:38.639 entire itinerary, how to register, how to you'll learn more 225 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.559 about the facilities and the accommodations that are up there. 226 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:47.799 The what's the price for a full the full program? 227 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.720 It's four ninety nine on the website, okay, And of 228 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.279 course they can come through you and get a discount. 229 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:00.000 So they if they use when you're registering, you can 230 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:04.319 use the word Earth Ancients and you get twenty percent off. 231 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:10.759 And if you can't make it, but you still want 232 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:14.920 to attend, you can go to the streaming the registration 233 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:19.119 for the streaming program, and it's seventy five dollars for 234 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:23.359 the full program. And I've just learned from Walter that 235 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:27.400 that includes the saved files. And many of you ask 236 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.880 me if they're going to save the files, and Walter 237 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:34.039 is offering that. So you pay the seventy five dollars, 238 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:38.200 you get the full program, the full speaker lineup, and 239 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.920 you keep it for futures. You can't if you miss somebody, 240 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:42.279 you can look at it later. 241 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.799 Yeah, it's it's terrific to be there in per in 242 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:49.319 person because you get to meet all the speakers, get 243 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.319 books signed, and you know, get the whole experience. But 244 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:57.880 streaming you'll get the basic content, and you know there's 245 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:02.079 some really cool stuff. A couple of my lesser known 246 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:08.519 speakers but favorites. Charlotte Morose, she's doing her doctoral studies. 247 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.240 She's in go Beckley Teppe right now as we speak. 248 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:13.359 Is she really yes? 249 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:17.079 And she's been there for a couple of months working 250 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.759 on a project, and so she'll be coming back with 251 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:26.240 firsthand information from go Beckley Teppe. Also, Boris Fritz just 252 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:27.279 an amazing guy. 253 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:27.599 You know. 254 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:36.240 He he's been teaching at Loyola I Believe in southern California, 255 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:42.640 and he's he has a talk on the what life 256 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:46.400 was like in the Higher Ages and he's quite a 257 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:50.640 yogi himself, so you know, he's not just speaking from 258 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.039 academic book point of view. He's kind of talking about 259 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.799 these different states of consciousness you can go through as. 260 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:59.480 You be sure to use Earth Ancients to get a 261 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:03.440 twin percent discounts roughly one hundred bucks and the streaming 262 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:05.680 if you can't make it up there, streaming is seventy 263 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:09.720 five dollars. It'll all be available on the program. Any 264 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:13.000 last thoughts, Walter, as we conclude. 265 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:17.759 Last thoughts, are I'm sure glad that we're going into 266 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:20.960 a higher age, because if we're going into a lower age, 267 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.960 we'd be having a much different conversation. 268 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.839 I'm sure. All right, Hey, much success on the conference 269 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.079 and we are looking forward to learning more about it. 270 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:31.519 Thanks Cliff. 271 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.960 We just finished the Cosmic Summit in North Carolina and 272 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:14.960 the master of ceremonies was Johanna James. I didn't get 273 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.839 a chance to interview her because she's so busy, and 274 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.839 I was reaching out to the producer George Howard and going, hey, George, 275 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:24.400 where is this gal? I need to talk to her. 276 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:27.599 And you know, in this industry, in this business, in 277 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:34.039 this genre of ancient cultures ancient civilizations, to have a individual, 278 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:37.680 a woman who is interested as she is is really 279 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.720 something to consider and I was wanting to get her 280 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:43.200 on the program for a while. Let me just tell 281 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:46.039 you a little bit about her. She is a British actress, 282 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:51.519 comedian who who began researching ancient history during the pandemic. 283 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.599 And we gotta ask her about that simply. I mean, 284 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.960 that's an amazing idea. She Why would you get into 285 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.480 the ancient culture as much as she did? There's a 286 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.799 trigger somewhere there. She's on YouTube, She's got a great 287 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:07.160 YouTube channel called Funny Old World, and you got to 288 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:10.400 check it out. It's very well done and she's quite 289 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:13.440 a personality. In fact, she's even interviewing her father and 290 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:18.279 one of these episodes, which is hilarious. And she's got 291 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:22.279 a podcast with would you Believe Luke Caverns is called 292 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:28.279 Raiders of the Past Pod and that's just started out too, 293 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:30.759 So hey, we want to talk about what's all, what's 294 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.680 going on with her, what she's been doing, and get 295 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:38.240 a sense of why she's involved in this genre. So hey, Johanna, 296 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.960 welcome to Earth Ancient's good to see you. 297 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:43.039 Thanks so much for having me on. 298 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:46.720 All right, first thing I have to ask you. All Right, 299 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:52.119 we're into the we're into the pandemic, everyone's isolated. What 300 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.920 is the trigger? What's like the passion to jump into 301 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.880 this genre? I mean, because I've seen you on, I'm 302 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:03.880 seeing that these people and you're like, you're like you're 303 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.160 tapped in. You know what's happening? 304 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:11.319 Oh yeah, deep in the source it was. It was 305 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.119 weird because obviously the pandemic was a very weird time 306 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.359 and I had I had a lot of spare time 307 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.039 on my hands, and I was finding it hard to 308 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:25.279 focus at home on anything else really other than falling 309 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:29.000 down the amazing rabbit hole that is lost ancient technology, 310 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:33.440 ancient mythology. Sort of when I really started to look 311 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:36.400 at when you start to look at the historical human 312 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:40.880 timeline and you notice just like there are some weird anomaly, 313 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.200 some weird gaps, like we really don't know that much 314 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:50.319 about human history, like pre six thousand BC, And yeah, 315 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:54.160 I just I got absolutely hooked. I saw I saw Rogan. 316 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:56.000 I got into Joe Rogan as well on the pandemic 317 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.839 and Randal Carlston and the Graham hand clock we're on there, 318 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:05.720 and Jimmy from right inside who sort of was putting 319 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:11.359 the spotlight on potentially Atlantis being in Mauritania. Oh, I 320 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:15.079 was absolutely absolutely hooked. And I decided in twenty twenty 321 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.000 to go to join a tour and go to Egypt. 322 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.519 I was like, I've got to go there myself. But 323 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:22.160 it's one thing to sit and watch and observe, but 324 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.359 I was like, I've got to go there. So I 325 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:25.759 did it. I booked you, went all on my own 326 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:30.000 and I joined Ben from Uncharted Ex's tour and it 327 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:34.079 was yeah, and made powers of Ben and It was 328 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:35.880 just amazing because I went with a whole bunch of 329 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.440 questions and then I just came back with like a 330 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:42.400 hundred more, and I had so much footage from I 331 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.839 just was recording everything that we were experiencing, and I 332 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:48.680 realized I had enough footage for about eight vlogs, and 333 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.440 I thought, Oh, I'll whack them on YouTube because I 334 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:54.960 don't really nobody watches my YouTube. And I was like, 335 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:56.880 it's going to be my little space for me to 336 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:01.359 maybe explore and build a community about ancient history, because 337 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:03.319 not my friends and family aren't really into this and 338 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:05.400 I really am. So I was like, I'm sure someone 339 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.119 out there wants to chat to me about this. It 340 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:09.839 turns out there's one hundreds thousands of people who are 341 00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:12.839 into this, and that's how I started Funny Old World 342 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.599 and it's now kind of a full time gig. 343 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.519 It's excellent. And I should mention you're you're at like 344 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:22.759 about a quarter of a million friends or likes on 345 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.720 that channel, and are you doing all the editing and 346 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:28.319 the design of. 347 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:33.640 These Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad was a video 348 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:38.880 editor as his profession, and so he taught me how 349 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.200 to edit, and yeah, so I know my way around 350 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:46.279 like editing software and camera and yeah, I'm seeing the 351 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:48.640 theme tune, make the theme tune, and it's all it's. 352 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.920 All me what I mean when you're looking at these questions, 353 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:55.319 because Ben van Kirkwick and that tour group, those are 354 00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:59.920 guys that are kind of bending our understanding in using 355 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:08.799 new technology to analyze old world artifacts. Are you kind 356 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:13.920 of saying national geographic and all the traditional thoughts are 357 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:18.480 not valid or are you saying there's a question here 358 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.640 that I want to answer and I'm very curious on 359 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.319 the alternative views of these artifacts. 360 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:29.839 Yeah, I think that. I mean, I need to preface that. 361 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:33.279 I think that like archaeology and the art of it 362 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:35.880 and the skill of it, and I think that there 363 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:39.319 is there are so many amazing academic people, and I 364 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:44.759 do I follow I follow the science. And that's where 365 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:46.759 I think that even if you follow the science, there 366 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:50.359 are still so many I don't know. It's from the 367 00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:52.920 academic community when you go, well, where did this come from? 368 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.200 We don't know who made this? We don't know, and 369 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:58.759 it's in that weird gray area of history that's my 370 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:02.720 favorite era. And I think that there is space for 371 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.559 people if academics kind of can't answer it. Then I'm like, well, 372 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.200 let's open it up to the audience and like, let 373 00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.119 anyone can have a go, because I think that's part 374 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:14.240 of the magic of it that you don't have to 375 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:18.920 have a degree. Like I'm not. I have no qualifications 376 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.319 in history. I'm literally just a fan. I'm passionate about it. 377 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.119 I'm coming at this from a background in I've got 378 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:29.160 a background in comedy acting, so I was like, this. 379 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.759 Is just very cool, because you make a great master 380 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:33.680 of ceremonies for those conferences. 381 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.359 I'm so unqualified. But I realized where I think my 382 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.079 place in this big puzzle is that if I can 383 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.759 dip my toe in and try and understand these things, 384 00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:47.160 then anybody can. And if I can communicate somehow some 385 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:50.680 very heavy science cy I've like, somehow I'm involved in 386 00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:55.720 some very heavy science stuff, and if I can communicate 387 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.640 that to somebody who's like, has no idea what's going on, 388 00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:02.319 then maybe that's my role, just facilitating getting as many 389 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.200 eyes on the mysteries as possible. 390 00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:09.920 Do you into the ancient alien genre where you're saying, 391 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:12.839 we can't explain it, and this is my big problem 392 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.319 with ancient aliens. If they can't explain it. It must 393 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.359 be the aliens who did it. 394 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:23.119 What do you say to that, I am I'm in 395 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.640 favor of ancient humans doing a lot of the things 396 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.640 that we find, like the artifacts that are out of place, or. 397 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.680 If things that seem to be above the technological paygrode 398 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.160 of the time. I would put my money on ancient 399 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:42.240 humans over ancient aliens. However, I definitely don't think we 400 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.759 should rule out I think I do not think that 401 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.200