Speaker 1: Can I get a man for everybody out there in
Speaker 1: free Karen Reid Universe?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm your host DJ, and we have a special guest
Speaker 1: tonight that just showed up in the studio and I
Speaker 1: am so happy because I don't know where his brother
Speaker 1: was at, but he's tracking like nobody's business because he
Speaker 1: is what they call a professional.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? A professional? All right? Away?
Speaker 2: There come again? All right? So, so yeah, I discovered
Speaker 2: this brother very shortly. By the way, Julie, Hello, good evening,
Speaker 2: my friend. Thank you so much for being here, as
Speaker 2: well as the rest of you in the chat. Hello Janine,
Speaker 2: the Pilgrim Shadow, Miss Jessica, and bo DOUBLEG, who is
Speaker 2: going to come on later and ask a question of
Speaker 2: the Glare Analyze did not know that she had to
Speaker 2: be on air, so she's given me a question to
Speaker 2: ask the Glare tonight. Phoebe Man, all the stuff you're
Speaker 2: putting out you give like so much really interesting, cool,
Speaker 2: informative and dope information. So thank you, Phoebe MC appreciate you. Else.
Speaker 2: What's up? Uh? Ditto? How ad you from Texas? It's up, homie.
Speaker 2: It's where I went to basic training. Uh, and then
Speaker 2: I see a wit love. Some of these names are
Speaker 2: super creative, but I'll tell you what we have to
Speaker 2: get to our guest here. So I'm really interested in
Speaker 2: tonight because I've watched his show and he's able to
Speaker 2: sort of take these very complex pieces of information, much
Speaker 2: like Mike does, and distill them down into something that
Speaker 2: the audience can understand, especially when we're talking about a
Speaker 2: lot of legal ease and a lot of us, most
Speaker 2: of us have not been to law school save for
Speaker 2: a few of you out there, and he's able to
Speaker 2: put that information out and he is straight fire with
Speaker 2: his stuff. Man. He's not taking no crap from anybody here.
Speaker 2: So I'm very intrigued to learn about this gentleman this evening.
Speaker 2: So with that part of people, put those hands together
Speaker 2: for Will the glare? Can I get it?
Speaker 3: Hey man?
Speaker 2: For Will? Yeah, that is what I am talking about, Will, Man.
Speaker 3: I need to upgrade my my applause. My applause is
Speaker 3: way lamer than that, dude, I need to upgrade. That's
Speaker 3: like underous.
Speaker 2: Well you deserve it. Man. I am so happy that
Speaker 2: you're here. I've been watching you for months, calling all
Speaker 2: beings had just taken a foray into true crime where
Speaker 2: one of our members of the show, whom none of
Speaker 2: you are aware of, just because they only do the
Speaker 2: UFO Bigfoot stuff, she went and did an investigation in
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania for a missing mother, forty four year old mother,
Speaker 2: and it got really dangerous when it turned out there
Speaker 2: was a mob connection. That's when I, yeah, like, while
Speaker 2: she was there, I became aware of the Karen Reid trial.
Speaker 2: And then I you know, saw my obviously Turtle Boy
Speaker 2: and Mike and yourself and Masa and then Nurse Ca
Speaker 2: and Sean, and I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start talking about Karen Reid. So it's it hasn't
Speaker 2: been that long, but I have dove in like head first,
Speaker 2: so right on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's pretty much what I did. I
Speaker 3: mean I always kind of talked about crime cases, but
Speaker 3: but I was I was more part of this very
Speaker 3: dark part of the crime community. And I was so
Speaker 3: arrogant to think that I could get people to try
Speaker 3: to actually look at these people like they're actually people
Speaker 3: instead of just characters in some lifetime movie. And then
Speaker 3: I failed, you know, I mean, people want what they want,
Speaker 3: They're going to look at things the way they're going
Speaker 3: to look at them, and they're going to judge people
Speaker 3: the way they're going to judge people. And but then
Speaker 3: I just separated myself from that community, and then I
Speaker 3: started looking into this case and I decided to just
Speaker 3: do it live, you know, absolutely, so, I mean some
Speaker 3: might find that to be boring content, and it was risky,
Speaker 3: but the thing was is there was a whole that
Speaker 3: I wasn't aware of, an entire community of people that
Speaker 3: were seriously affected by this case. And and they have
Speaker 3: been supportive of me since the since that first live
Speaker 3: stream that I did, just kind of educating myself on it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's this is easily the most definitely the
Speaker 3: best community I've ever been a part of, easily like
Speaker 3: the most caring and the most yeah, just empathetic, good people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this small group of content creators that we
Speaker 2: have what I love because I'm so I started off
Speaker 2: in the MMA community for like a decade, and then
Speaker 2: three years ago I had had a UFO sighting as
Speaker 2: a kid, so I started doing And by the way, everybody,
Speaker 2: this show is not about me. I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: give will a sense of who I am, because he
Speaker 2: probably has no idea who I am, and so I'm
Speaker 2: a former military guy, aviator type. And when the David Fraver,
Speaker 2: the Navy guy, talked about that TICTAC encounter he had
Speaker 2: off the coast of California and he was on sixty
Speaker 2: minutes along with his wingman, I decided, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 2: to start talking about UFOs and the disclosure of it.
Speaker 2: And there's a figure there named Louelizondo who's very much
Speaker 2: a Sean McDonough. And there's a person there named Mick
Speaker 2: West who's a debunker who's very much a plevin. So
Speaker 2: it's interesting the parallels. But I didn't come here to
Speaker 2: talk about me. I really am interested in if you
Speaker 2: would start off. I've been dying to ask you this question.
Speaker 2: Who is Will the Glarer? Because you look like a
Speaker 2: musician or something. Who is Will the Glare?
Speaker 3: Exactly what you see on my channel. I I'm just
Speaker 3: lucky enough to to get to do this. Uh, and
Speaker 3: this is what I'm like if I'm just hanging out
Speaker 3: with people, you know. So yeah, I'm just grateful that
Speaker 3: that people, for some reason are entertained by it. So
Speaker 3: I just stick to what works, which is just being myself.
Speaker 3: Can't go wrong there, you know, and tell people just
Speaker 3: don't like it anymore, and it is what it is.
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? So I'm just grateful and
Speaker 3: I'm just enjoying it.
Speaker 2: I'm the same way. I do what I do, and
Speaker 2: some people like it and some people don't, and that's okay,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, That's that's fine. So some
Speaker 2: same could be said for all of us. For Turtle Boy.
Speaker 2: You know, we love what Turtle boys doing. Some people
Speaker 2: are turned off by him, that's their issue, but the
Speaker 2: larger issue, what he's doing is so courageous and so important.
Speaker 2: You have that similar courage that he does. I know
Speaker 2: you're inspired by him. I think all of us are.
Speaker 3: I would never presume to even compare myself to Turtle Boy,
Speaker 3: because turtle Boy actually does work. What I do I
Speaker 3: don't consider work at all, totally. Yeah, Like jokingly, I
Speaker 3: recently like like I put there in the uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I I jokingly I'm calling myself an independent commentator. But
Speaker 3: that's just to be humorous, because it's just to kind
Speaker 3: of take jabs at Sue O'Connell for being half asked
Speaker 3: when it comes to this case, so you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: she's a commentator. So you you talk, So why aren't
Speaker 3: you talking about this? Like you're talking a lot, but
Speaker 3: you're not saying anything. Uh so.
Speaker 2: Nothing meaningful?
Speaker 3: Right, So I've I've done the uh, I've done the
Speaker 3: the self title of independent commentator. That's me.
Speaker 2: So yeah. And so you are you? Are you a
Speaker 2: musician of some sort or a music person or no,
Speaker 2: I was you were?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't. I haven't picked up my guitar. I mean,
Speaker 3: my my guitar is over there with brand new strings,
Speaker 3: but the neck is warped on it and I I
Speaker 3: don't even touch it anymore. But I'm considering considering buying gear,
Speaker 3: like you know, and then seeing if there's anybody who
Speaker 3: wants to throw down and make noise. But the problem
Speaker 3: is is if I go down that rabbit hole, man,
Speaker 3: that is, it's an expensive it's an expensive thing to
Speaker 3: get into, man, And I don't know if I want
Speaker 3: to do all that all over again. I'm old now,
Speaker 3: and it's like you know, and I'd have just as
Speaker 3: much fun. I would. I'd have just as much fun
Speaker 3: as I ever did. I know it.
Speaker 2: But it's so expensive, Yeah it is, I know it's
Speaker 2: it's like flat one of my buddies talking to me.
Speaker 2: You want to get into flying again? Because I do.
Speaker 2: I haven't flown in yours as a private pilot, but
Speaker 2: I do have a pilot's license, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: it is so expensive. I gotta sell my motorcycle, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe sell my mountain bikes, you know whatever?
Speaker 3: Do I want to play music again? That bad? You
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, And if I had the
Speaker 3: goal to, it's ironic because if I had the goal to,
Speaker 3: I don't know, make money doing it, you know, then
Speaker 3: you know, okay, But then when that happens, it becomes work,
Speaker 3: and then I don't enjoy it, and then the quality
Speaker 3: of the music is not going to be as good.
Speaker 3: I know this for a fact because I was in
Speaker 3: a band and all I thought about was, oh, man,
Speaker 3: I want to do this all the time. Uh. And
Speaker 3: then and we tried so hard, and we were frustrated,
Speaker 3: and we argued all the time, and blah blah blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. Uh and then the next thing I know,
Speaker 3: we broke up. Didn't do anything for a long time.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then a buddy who would come by the tattoo
Speaker 3: shop from time to time would would you know, we
Speaker 3: just started talking about it because he used to play
Speaker 3: and and then we were just like, yeah, let's just
Speaker 3: do it just to make noise and have fun. And
Speaker 3: then when we were only thinking about just making noise
Speaker 3: and having fun was when the good shows started to
Speaker 3: come along, and and you know, we got to open
Speaker 3: for bands that we liked and things like that and that.
Speaker 3: You know, So the the the irony there is is
Speaker 3: if I buy musical equipment, I'm going to be wasting money. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lose money, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: it's I'm not gonna get anything out of that except
Speaker 3: for joy that may or may not even happen. Like
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go out and try to start a band,
Speaker 3: uh you know what I mean, Like I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: go out and buy gear or well, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: go ahead and try to start a band without having
Speaker 3: any gear. And then I'm not going to go out
Speaker 3: and buy a gear if I don't even know I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be able to put a band together, you know.
Speaker 3: So I mean I'm old like and I don't want
Speaker 3: to play music with a bunch of young entitled douchebags.
Speaker 3: I want to play music with old bitter assholes like me.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm thinking of the FKR band and it's you,
Speaker 2: it's Mike, you know. Sean also is a guitar player.
Speaker 2: So I can't remember. Somebody said they sing. I don't
Speaker 2: remember who said that they could sing. Oh, maybe it
Speaker 2: was Missy. So I mean, I think the Free Karen
Speaker 2: Reid band is close at hand. We just need a drummer.
Speaker 3: I can sing, just not well.
Speaker 2: I hear you, brother, You're like the edge from you two.
Speaker 2: You know, you can do some parts of songs, but
Speaker 2: you don't want to be sitting there trying to do bono.
Speaker 2: So there was some b oh seaking of bands and
Speaker 2: the creative process and how they argue and fight. I
Speaker 2: was listening to Stuart Copeland on this show on YouTube
Speaker 2: called Drumo where basically he comes on and and and
Speaker 2: he drums and people will try to do his drum
Speaker 2: parts and all that stuff, and he complained.
Speaker 3: Do you know that show? Yeah, well, I know there's one.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the same show, but there's
Speaker 3: one where a guy will have a drummer, like a
Speaker 3: really famous drummer like I don't know, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: the dude from Tool come in and uh and then
Speaker 3: be like, hey, uh, I'm gonna have you play along
Speaker 3: to this Michael Jackson song, you know, or something a song.
Speaker 3: I'll find a song that they've never heard before, and
Speaker 3: then we're like, we want you to put your drum
Speaker 3: tracks to it. You know, but a song, right? Is
Speaker 3: that them?
Speaker 2: That's exactly the show.
Speaker 3: That's super fun. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: Stuart just kind of came on and because there's another
Speaker 2: show where there's a drummer from another famous drummer who's
Speaker 2: trying to do Stuart's play one of Stuart's songs. But
Speaker 2: when he was on, he was just you know, he'd
Speaker 2: play a little bit and he would talk about you know,
Speaker 2: the band and and and those drum licks and stuff,
Speaker 2: and he could not stop talking about how much Sting
Speaker 2: annoyed him, Like he took at least half a dozen
Speaker 2: shots that stink so it dies hard.
Speaker 3: But I don't blame him. I see Sting being that
Speaker 3: guy that just gets on your nerves, Like his music
Speaker 3: gets on my nerves not so much these days, And
Speaker 3: I used to be that guy that'd be like, oh God,
Speaker 3: turn that off. I hate that crap, you know, But
Speaker 3: now I'm just like too old to care. Now, I'm
Speaker 3: just like a lot of musicians.
Speaker 2: They don't have enough appreciation maybe for what another band
Speaker 2: member brings, and they'll lose that appreciation. You too, has
Speaker 2: never lost it. I mean, they've been together since middle school.
Speaker 2: There's no other major, major band that's been together that
Speaker 2: long with the four original members. But I think I
Speaker 2: don't think Sting appreciates that Stuart is one of the
Speaker 2: most amazing drummers of all time in rock and roll
Speaker 2: of all time. And also and and that I don't
Speaker 2: think Stuart may be appreciated Sting enough, and they just
Speaker 2: didn't create space where they should have or needed to.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get those egos, man like, it just comes
Speaker 3: with it, Like if you're if you're a musician and
Speaker 3: you're gonna perform in front of people, there's there's an
Speaker 3: extrovert quality to that personality that that it requires, right
Speaker 3: and and an ego is gonna come with that most
Speaker 3: of the time. And so you have more people in
Speaker 3: the band. The more people you have in the band,
Speaker 3: the more egos you have, and the less likely you're
Speaker 3: gonna get anything really done. People are gonna settle, people
Speaker 3: are gonna you know, somebody's gonna have to compromise. But
Speaker 3: everybody's just got this, this grand creative idea, and it
Speaker 3: must be you know, it must be you know, uh,
Speaker 3: coming to fruition. It must be manifested into reality. And
Speaker 3: and you're denying the world of your creativity, God forbid.
Speaker 3: And you know you get three, four, five guys who
Speaker 3: who all feel this way, and it's yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 3: gonna be resentment. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who could imagine John John bon Jovi and Richie Sambora
Speaker 2: not playing together, But it's happened, so it has occurred.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Uh, I know these people didn't come here
Speaker 2: to listen to all our musings about music. But when
Speaker 2: we do another cab episode of music, which we did recently,
Speaker 2: Will we had Mike, we had Mizzy, we had Suzanne.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember who else we had on four
Speaker 2: or five people, and we all talked about we wanted
Speaker 2: to take a night off of what is about to
Speaker 2: get us pissed off when we talk about KP and
Speaker 2: we talk about what's just the filings of Mark Bedrow
Speaker 2: and how they tried to you know, screw this woman
Speaker 2: over and this man Turtle Boy. So we're about to
Speaker 2: get really pissed off here in a second. So we
Speaker 2: tried to do an episode where we just taught you know,
Speaker 2: we're just talking about our favorite bands are Mount Rushmore
Speaker 2: as of rock and it was really interesting to hear.
Speaker 2: So next time we do. Oh, we had JFK came
Speaker 2: on as well at the end and we were gonna
Speaker 2: end the show. We were fifteen minutes from ending the show.
Speaker 2: We went like another forty five. But next time we
Speaker 2: have that show, you are going to be invited, sir.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think we invited you, but you might have.
Speaker 2: It might have been when you went to a festival.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you did invite me and I had to
Speaker 3: decline because I had riot Fest in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. All right, Well, dude, you you
Speaker 2: have been all over this stuff regarding our boy, Turtle Boy,
Speaker 2: the Courageous One. Hello Shirley, welcome, Hello Ann, thank you
Speaker 2: for watching that one. You know, this latest filing by
Speaker 2: by you know what. I don't even remember the first
Speaker 2: letter that Mark sent them. I just only remember the second.
Speaker 2: Can you juxtaposed the two or you like me where
Speaker 2: you don't remember the crux of the first one.
Speaker 3: The first one was Jesus. Yeah, I mean I only
Speaker 3: read it the one time when I was when I
Speaker 3: was live, but I know that it was a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of three two one combos from better Row and yeah,
Speaker 3: he's basically staying the gist of the first one, was
Speaker 3: basically calling for ten Melow to recuse himself from this case.
Speaker 3: And basically better Roh and Bradle are accusing Mellow of
Speaker 3: colluding with Tully and KP and LG who get Turtle
Speaker 3: Boy locked up. Uh, and uh, this is I don't
Speaker 3: think better Oh, he doesn't come off to me as
Speaker 3: the kind of guy who's going to make those accusations
Speaker 3: and on paper file them if he can't prove them.
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm quite confident that Bettero can prove those
Speaker 3: allegations in that in those letters, and I I absolutely uh,
Speaker 3: I can't wait for that to happen, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see Turtle Boy go through this anymore.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, and I feel I think
Speaker 3: Turtle Boy feels this way is you know, he wants
Speaker 3: his day in court. He wants to be able to
Speaker 3: prove that these people are are dirty. Uh And I'm
Speaker 3: I'm here for it. I'm here for every second.
Speaker 2: Of it, one hundred percent. Yeah he he he he.
Speaker 2: I mean it's costing him money to do this, but ultimately,
Speaker 2: in a civil proceeding, I'm assuming he can win his
Speaker 2: money back. The fact that kp outed herself in such
Speaker 2: a ridiculous in your face and and without any regard
Speaker 2: to what she was doing in the operation, security of
Speaker 2: what they were trying to accomplish, and and the hatred
Speaker 2: that it takes. What did you what did you think
Speaker 2: about that when you saw the level of hatred that
Speaker 2: this woman has? And why do you suppose that is?
Speaker 3: God only knows? What's funny? Is I don't care? You know,
Speaker 3: that's that's her problem. She's she's a she's a miserable,
Speaker 3: bad person, uh with and is full of hatred, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's a bummer because the thing is, it's like
Speaker 3: she's old enough to be accountable for her actions. She's
Speaker 3: old enough to know how her actions affect other people.
Speaker 3: She's old enough to be to have the guts to
Speaker 3: be self aware. Whether she does have the courage to
Speaker 3: to look at herself in the mirror properly and see
Speaker 3: how she's how her behavior and her perspectives are affecting
Speaker 3: other people. And you know, most of these people when
Speaker 3: they do things like this, they think that they actually think.
Speaker 3: If you put them on a lie detector test and
Speaker 3: ask them if they think that they're actually helping people,
Speaker 3: they'll say yes, and they'll pass. You know, they convince themselves.
Speaker 3: They justify their actions in their mind by convincing themselves
Speaker 3: that they're doing good things for other people, and they're
Speaker 3: really you know, I mean, is she doing good things
Speaker 3: for the Mcalberts. She she's intending to. Sure, But the
Speaker 3: problem is is that the mcalverts have been lying the
Speaker 3: entire time. I don't know who killed John O'Keefe. I
Speaker 3: have no idea who actually killed the Boston Police officer
Speaker 3: John O'Keeffe. I know that he was inside that house,
Speaker 3: and I know that Karen's vehicle did not strike him.
Speaker 3: Those are two things that I know. So whatever happened
Speaker 3: to him had to have happened by default inside thirty
Speaker 3: four Fairview on the early morning hours of January twenty nine,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. There's just no denying this. So all
Speaker 3: I know is that these people in that house are lying.
Speaker 3: I don't know who they're protecting exactly. I mean, I
Speaker 3: could see that they're protecting Colin, but it could be
Speaker 3: that they're just protecting Colin because he's the baby of
Speaker 3: the family, you know. So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: So she's helping these people, but she's not really helping
Speaker 3: them because everyone, the whole world can see that they're lying.
Speaker 3: The whole world can see that they're guilty of something
Speaker 3: at least lying uh and covering something up. Uh. And
Speaker 3: so you know, you have someone like this being your spokesperson,
Speaker 3: it's not a good look. So, no, she's not She's
Speaker 3: not helping the mcalverts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, totally. I you know, I had an epiphantal
Speaker 2: moment the other night based on what one of our
Speaker 2: friends I believe it was Joe Flipperhead posted something. I
Speaker 2: know he's he's amazing. So you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Joe flipp Ahead's first I hear Tom CPU's
Speaker 3: voice saying Joe Flipperhead in my head. Whenever I hear it,
Speaker 3: it's just it's it's tattooed on my brain. Hearing Tom cpugo.
Speaker 3: You want to give a shout out to Joe flipp Ahead,
Speaker 3: Joe Flipphead. You heard of Joe Flippead, Like, that's all
Speaker 3: I hear whenever I hear that dude's name, and I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 2: Are you from Massachusetts? No, okay, so you're you're like me,
Speaker 2: You're actually I went to college there, So I'm heading
Speaker 2: back for our college reunion like two weeks from now,
Speaker 2: but two weeks from today, actually I'll be there. So yeah, actually,
Speaker 2: I know, I know what you're what you're saying, but
Speaker 2: you feel connected to hear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my boy.
Speaker 2: Hey Tom, how's it going, man? I'm glad we are
Speaker 2: connected on on Twitter now by virtue of that that chat.
Speaker 2: So I do see your work on video and certainly
Speaker 2: would want to connect with we adopted Will as well
Speaker 2: as should.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I keep hearing that. That's one of the things
Speaker 3: that I'm just like totally just I melt over is hearing. Uh,
Speaker 3: the locals there like just individually will tell me you
Speaker 3: know that I'm I'm I'm a Bostonian and I'm officially
Speaker 3: a Bostonian to them. So it's like, Wow, that's an
Speaker 3: honor considering how how tight knit Bostonians and the pride
Speaker 3: that they take in being Bostonian, so it's it's an honor.
Speaker 2: And they actually should be treating Karen Reid with the
Speaker 2: same the same embrace, but they're not. They're treating her
Speaker 2: like she's from the planet Pluto.
Speaker 3: I mean, and they're really reaching man, Like I just
Speaker 3: saw a post where they showed her making a face
Speaker 3: in a picture. Yeah, and I'm like, and they're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, you know, no class, Like I mean,
Speaker 3: you can't make a silly face in a picture. Like
Speaker 3: if I if I go through your photos on your
Speaker 3: phone and I don't see a selfie of you making
Speaker 3: a silly face somewhere in there, I'm going to assume
Speaker 3: that you were a miserable fuck. Sorry for my language,
Speaker 3: it's true. I'm just gonna assume it right away. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be like, you're miserable and life must suck for you,
Speaker 3: you know. It's I'm gonna say, I'm gonna think that
Speaker 3: they're more more likely to have killed someone than the
Speaker 3: person who's making a silly face in a picture. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I had the exact same I commented on the same photo.
Speaker 2: It's just so absurd because if that is some indicative
Speaker 2: of one's class. Then I must be classless because I've
Speaker 2: taken mostly ridiculous photos in my entire life, because regular
Speaker 2: photos don't look so good. And look, who's there, Suzanne Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Let me do my lebron Cleveland. This is for you.
Speaker 2: So anyway, how's it going? Welcome Suzanne home girl? All right,
Speaker 2: So this is I had an epiphany that which I
Speaker 2: told Suzanne last night. So I'm gonna share it with
Speaker 2: you and get your comments on it. So I'm watching
Speaker 2: Joe Flipperhead's videos and basically he posts KP in her
Speaker 2: interview and then he posts Ali mckaine and in that,
Speaker 2: and so I'm just going to go through this and
Speaker 2: then get your reaction to it. So in that you
Speaker 2: have KP saying to the interviewer, I think it was
Speaker 2: the one where she and Linda.
Speaker 3: I actually posted that. Oh did you post it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I actually yeah. I downloaded the two videos and posted
Speaker 3: them next to each other on the on the on Twitter.
Speaker 2: All right, Julie's calling me out because.
Speaker 3: Joe Flipperhead might have done it as well. I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know that. I distinctly remember actually going Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: posting this and this, these two videos side by side
Speaker 3: next to each other.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you because that may have been the one.
Speaker 2: But let me be what the share the epiphanal moment
Speaker 2: that happened after seeing that. So you have KP saying,
Speaker 2: as you know because you posted it, Oh, Colin wasn't
Speaker 2: even in the house when when John was there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then you had Alan McCabe saying, oh see, Colin
Speaker 2: wasn't in the house when John was.
Speaker 3: There, right, almost verbatim on a stand yes, understand a
Speaker 3: murder trial. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I started going through my head and saying, what
Speaker 2: we need to find here is a motive for murder.
Speaker 2: And the reason is this. If you have Brian Albert,
Speaker 2: you know, he fancies himself a fighter or some sort
Speaker 2: of an amateur boxer. I don't know if he's competed
Speaker 2: or if he just spars with guys or what. So
Speaker 2: he obviously there's a call out in the bar by
Speaker 2: Brian Brian Higgins, and O'Keefe is thinking to himself. He's
Speaker 2: thinking to himself, if I don't and I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna use some callor for language, So I want you
Speaker 2: to forgive me here, But this would be the language
Speaker 2: they would use.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm only watching my mouth because it's your show.
Speaker 3: Like I don't send to myself on my show, So
Speaker 3: no talking. I just yeah, okay, yeah, I just because
Speaker 3: I respect that other people's channels when I'm on them,
Speaker 3: and I tried to watch my language.
Speaker 2: And bless you as do I. But I'm saying because
Speaker 2: we have women in the chat and I don't like to,
Speaker 2: you know, a curse and mixed company and these kinds
Speaker 2: of things. So O'Keefe is at the bar and he's thinking,
Speaker 2: I live in Copland. You have all these different cops
Speaker 2: that live in Canton. They probably do all kinds of
Speaker 2: laundry room talk when they're over at cant and Pede
Speaker 2: and and Higgins works there. And if this little bitch
Speaker 2: calls me out and I don't show up, he's going
Speaker 2: to tell them then I'm a pussy. Then I'm a bitch.
Speaker 2: If he says, hey, you coming and I don't at
Speaker 2: least show my face at Brian Albert's house, he's gonna
Speaker 2: die me out to all these other Cant and p
Speaker 2: D guys that he called me out and I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't take him up on it. So that's why
Speaker 2: O'Keefe asked Karen to take him over there, and he
Speaker 2: was only supposed to be there for a few minutes.
Speaker 2: Albert overwhelmingly likely brings them down into the basement because
Speaker 2: that's where it's yay, you guys want to have a go,
Speaker 2: Let's go right down in the basement.
Speaker 3: See, that's the scenario that makes the most sense to
Speaker 3: me as well. I mean, if I'm speculating, I think
Speaker 3: that that's what based on the evidence what we know.
Speaker 2: But it gets better. It gets better because even in that,
Speaker 2: even in them having a fight that is sanctioned by
Speaker 2: the ring master there, Brian Albert, we don't have a
Speaker 2: motive for murder. So when John is injured, we have
Speaker 2: to have a reason that they're not going to call
Speaker 2: nine to one one. There might has to be a
Speaker 2: reason that any normal person, even a drunk cop. These
Speaker 2: guys are first responders. This guy goes down and is
Speaker 2: looking like he's convulsing, someone's gonna call nine to one one.
Speaker 2: So what I surmise happen is those injuries that are
Speaker 2: on the backs of his hands. He's probably engaged with
Speaker 2: Brian Higgins and perhaps because of this, this undying need
Speaker 2: to clear Colin of even being in the home. Why
Speaker 2: would you be so dead set on that unless Colin
Speaker 2: takes some sort of a weighted object and smacks him
Speaker 2: in the back of the head with it, causing that
Speaker 2: two and a half inch scar, he's defending himself from
Speaker 2: the front, he gets hit from the back. Now, the
Speaker 2: problem we have is if somebody calls nine to one one,
Speaker 2: John o'keef is going to the hospital. He's going to
Speaker 2: the er, and he's probably gonna at least stay one
Speaker 2: night there, just based on the injury to the back
Speaker 2: of his head, and if he had was concussed, which
Speaker 2: obviously he would have been, he is now going to
Speaker 2: the DA is going to have to prosecute whomever committed
Speaker 2: felony assault. So if Colin Albert hits him in the
Speaker 2: back of the head while he's engaged in a fight,
Speaker 2: and I'm just I'm just throwing this out there, I
Speaker 2: don't know what happened, but I have to establish a
Speaker 2: motive of why Brian Albert and Brian Hagens would let
Speaker 2: him die. And it's not just because he's a dick
Speaker 2: and because Brian Albert is a violent maniac, as Sean
Speaker 2: McDonough has put out on many occasions, so the DA
Speaker 2: would be I think.
Speaker 3: That's the question that everybody is stuck on, you know,
Speaker 3: I think I'm not the question that everybody's stuck on
Speaker 3: his Why didn't anyone help him?
Speaker 2: That's why, because it's hold on. Let me just I
Speaker 2: want to extend this further, will because because now you
Speaker 2: have a situation where the Norfolk County DA is going
Speaker 2: to have to indict this guy for felony assault, which
Speaker 2: means police officer career for Colin Albert is over. Over
Speaker 2: and you know, having filled out job applications myself in
Speaker 2: and out of the government. My wife as well, she
Speaker 2: works and she's a cook. Every single one of them,
Speaker 2: have you been convicted of a felony? And every one
Speaker 2: of them is using these national background check services. I
Speaker 2: can't think of what they're called. Somebody put it in
Speaker 2: the chat if you remember, but they're using these these
Speaker 2: national background check services. What's up, Dennis? So if that
Speaker 2: that is your motive for murder right there, because his
Speaker 2: career aspirations are over, because he's gonna have to identify
Speaker 2: himself as a convicted felon without question, not to mention
Speaker 2: whatever disciplinary action that Brian Higgins would have faced. Obviously
Speaker 2: Brian Albert was retirement eligible. I think that's their motive
Speaker 2: to let him die because if he wakes up, God forbid,
Speaker 2: if o'keef wakes up, he is going to id callan
Speaker 2: Colin Albert as who hit him in the back of
Speaker 2: the head. Right, That's all I got.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just that makes sense, you know. But
Speaker 3: you know, to me, based on the facts of the case,
Speaker 3: Brian Brian Higgins had the most motive. Now I'm not
Speaker 3: saying he did it. I'm not even saying I think
Speaker 3: he did it. I'm saying that if I'm speculating based
Speaker 3: on the facts that are made available to me, I'm
Speaker 3: going with Brian Higgins had the most motive. But that
Speaker 3: also makes sense. That also makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's all kinds of possible motives. There's
Speaker 3: rumors that Colin Albert is a drug dealer. There's rumors
Speaker 3: that that there's that there was something with something with
Speaker 3: Brian Albert and his partner, who was John O'Keefe's partner,
Speaker 3: or something to that effect. I'm not even sure exactly
Speaker 3: what that is, but there's there's rumors about this, and
Speaker 3: the problem is is like those things are mostly rumor, right,
Speaker 3: So I I don't speculate on rumor. So right now
Speaker 3: based on the facts that are that that are made
Speaker 3: available to me, based on the video footage of Brian
Speaker 3: Higgins peacocky as micro Dots put it in his video
Speaker 3: and and then uh, looking as though he could have
Speaker 3: been calling John o'keef.
Speaker 2: Out no, no question right, you know that?
Speaker 3: And well someone on Twitter corrected me, and I I,
Speaker 3: I you know, if I'm if I'm if I'm wrong,
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, you know what I mean? It is what
Speaker 3: it is, so so, And somebody on Twitter said, you know,
Speaker 3: in all fairness, will how do you know you can't
Speaker 3: hear any audio. You don't really know what's being said.
Speaker 3: You don't really know, you know, he he could just
Speaker 3: be drunk and talking about something serious, but doesn't mean
Speaker 3: he's actually calling him outside to fight. And that's true, man.
Speaker 3: I mean to me, if it's if it walks like
Speaker 3: a rubber ducky in it it quacks like.
Speaker 2: A rubber you know what I mean. Sure, I've been
Speaker 2: in enough situations where I have seen that point. I've
Speaker 2: seen that that head movement, that person standing in between,
Speaker 2: that was a call out for a fight. And then
Speaker 2: the follow up with the text because clearly these guys
Speaker 2: were not friends and clearly and he followed up with
Speaker 2: the text you come in question mark question. So now
Speaker 2: John Karen, Karen does not know. Karen does not know
Speaker 2: why she's being asked to drive him there. As she
Speaker 2: said in her interview, she said, I wasn't invited there.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you were. I wasn't. I don't
Speaker 2: know why you want to go there. I want to
Speaker 2: go home. And he just so he he had to
Speaker 2: go over there. And the reason he had to go
Speaker 2: over there is because if Higgins called him out for
Speaker 2: a fight and he doesn't turn up, then there's a problem.
Speaker 3: And and he is trying to bang his.
Speaker 2: Woman and woman, yeah, and he once against something.
Speaker 3: You know, like it's it's it's just in our DNA man,
Speaker 3: our testosterone dictates that we you know, like, don't out.
Speaker 3: You call me out, you know, if I got to
Speaker 3: take an ass, but I'll take an ass.
Speaker 2: But that's right.
Speaker 3: If you're calling me out, we're gonna throw hands. Man.
Speaker 2: It is what it.
Speaker 3: Is, you know.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Sam Nagel, you would never call
Speaker 2: out Turtle Boy if you two were alone. Never. I
Speaker 2: just want to say that, sorry, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I that that was the most pathetic display
Speaker 3: of of efery that I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Like, that's why you know guy's a real puss is
Speaker 2: when he does something like that. That's when you're one
Speaker 2: hundred percent sure, right.
Speaker 3: And I guarantee you that Ryan Nagel gave him the
Speaker 3: business in private for that, I guarantee it. Ryan Nagel
Speaker 3: comes off to me as somebody who doesn't go around
Speaker 3: picking fights, but will be the first one to throw
Speaker 3: down if his friends are in trouble. It totally seems
Speaker 3: that way. I've known guys like him my whole life.
Speaker 3: I respect guys like him most of the time. The
Speaker 3: problem is is that the people that he's friends with
Speaker 3: are dirty, bad people and they're covering up a murder.
Speaker 3: So that's the issue. But the thing is is Ryan Nagel,
Speaker 3: I could tell the way that he chose to handle
Speaker 3: it was all right, I'm gonna get my brother out
Speaker 3: of there. I think that when he got in Turtle
Speaker 3: Boy's face, it was not to confront Turtle Boy. It
Speaker 3: was to get his brother away. It was to bail
Speaker 3: his brother out of a situation that his brother wasn't
Speaker 3: thinking through. So so that was his way of doing that,
Speaker 3: but not looking like he was. You know, it was
Speaker 3: actually a I could see my brother doing this, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Put it that way, but where
Speaker 3: I'm running my mouth and getting loud and being mister
Speaker 3: tough guy. Instead of embarrassing me, my brother's not gonna
Speaker 3: embarrass me. He's gonna go and he's gonna say, ah,
Speaker 3: I'm taking over blah blah blah blah blah, and then
Speaker 3: casually get him, Hey, come on, let's go. Let's leave
Speaker 3: this idiot alone. Let's go. You know, that's the impression
Speaker 3: that I got. But yeah, Sam Nagel, I don't think
Speaker 3: is tough. I think he feels tough because he has
Speaker 3: a tough brother.
Speaker 2: Because he had a whole group of people around him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if he would have been a lone e turtle boy
Speaker 2: who has said nothing to that guy. All right, so
Speaker 2: Jessica is here, and then we'll go back to my hypothesis.
Speaker 2: I want to get Jessica's question in this is miss
Speaker 2: Jessica and be she is a chat moderator here and
Speaker 2: also with Miss Shorty, so let's get her up on
Speaker 2: stage here, Jessica, how you doing, my friend?
Speaker 3: Hi Jessica, I'm all right. Hi to Glearr.
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 3: You could just call me Will It's fine.
Speaker 4: Well, well, actually you're on You're kind of on my
Speaker 4: poop list because I live in Chicago. It could have
Speaker 4: gotten your real sick tickets to riot Fest and had
Speaker 4: no clue that you were that you were here until
Speaker 4: I saw your giddy face with Turtle Boy in the
Speaker 4: car while he was talking to our car. So you're
Speaker 4: on my poop list. But next there's always next year.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you follow me on Instagram, you would
Speaker 3: have known that I was. I was live on Instagram.
Speaker 4: All the amount of times, the amount of times I
Speaker 4: get on Instagram is not very many. I need to though,
Speaker 4: But from now on, I'll follow you on Instagram and yeah, anyway,
Speaker 4: but it's nice to It's nice to meet you. So
Speaker 4: sorry about you not being on the video. Uh, As
Speaker 4: I told DJ, this weekend's been kind of a crazy
Speaker 4: one for me. Unfortunately, I flushed one of my AirPods
Speaker 4: down the toilet. You know, just one thing after another.
Speaker 2: Not figuratively literally, Will.
Speaker 3: I get it. Like, that's actually one of my fears
Speaker 3: I had when the camera phone first came out, and
Speaker 3: excuse me, metro PCs put them out. I had one
Speaker 3: and I paid a ridiculous amount of money for it,
Speaker 3: and I had it on a belt clip. And I
Speaker 3: was at this club at Churchill's, at a show in Miami,
Speaker 3: this place called Churchill's, and it's it's known part of
Speaker 3: it's known for how dingy the bathroom is. Like it's
Speaker 3: just I mean, you need a technic shot going in there.
Speaker 3: I mean it might be because it might be the
Speaker 3: reason why my immune system is amazing right now. It
Speaker 3: might just be is hanging out in that bathroom so much.
Speaker 3: But the but yeah, I went to go pee and
Speaker 3: my and then the thing fell off the belt clip
Speaker 3: right into the toilet. So now I've ever since the
Speaker 3: and that was like twenty years ago. Ever since then,
Speaker 3: I keep, yeah, like I keep my phone way over
Speaker 3: here when I'm peeing, Like I don't. I'm too scared.
Speaker 4: You need a phone holder, like yeah.
Speaker 3: Else, No, I'll never use AirPods for that reason, because
Speaker 3: they're just two little things. I'm like, yeah, I'll lose
Speaker 3: one of them, guarantee.
Speaker 4: The amount of lost, the amount of lost air pods
Speaker 4: I've had, and I can never I could I actually
Speaker 4: try to do to find my AirPod after I've lost it.
Speaker 4: Think you that I could just you know, mess with
Speaker 4: the plumbing or whatever. Yeah, no, it was long gone.
Speaker 4: It was probably my underneath my neighbor's house.
Speaker 2: By that point, I've lost at least two sets. But yeah, anyway,
Speaker 2: my friend, what is your question for Will the Glare?
Speaker 2: Who we still want to the The genesis of that
Speaker 2: name was what the Glarer? Oh, because someone in the
Speaker 2: chat asked this question.
Speaker 3: Oh, man, I've told this story before, but I Uh,
Speaker 3: I was in a real bad place at one point,
Speaker 3: like I had a really bad uh mental health crisis
Speaker 3: put it that way. Uh. And and I was just yeah,
Speaker 3: I was just in bad shape, no sense of how
Speaker 3: to manage it whatsoever. And then I and then I
Speaker 3: got suicidal and uh and I mean rock rock bottom
Speaker 3: like I I was. I was done. I was ready
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I was at peace with it and everything, but I,
Speaker 3: you know, told a lovely I felt guilty not saying
Speaker 3: goodbye to certain people.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then of course my loved ones intervened and then
Speaker 3: it was like I was. I was in a position
Speaker 3: where I was like, all right, well, I'm either gonna
Speaker 3: there's no where lower to get than this, So I'm
Speaker 3: either just gonna die or you know, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: through with this, or I'm going to, you know, for
Speaker 3: the sake of my loved ones who actually you know,
Speaker 3: you know, made me feel as though I was, you know,
Speaker 3: worth saving. I was going to put in some work.
Speaker 3: And while I was in this place mandatory for like
Speaker 3: ten days, I I came up. I started just focusing
Speaker 3: like on, Okay, what do I need to do to
Speaker 3: manage this to get better? What are what are? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And so that's my uh it's so it's an acronym.
Speaker 3: And I started thinking about and I wrote these things
Speaker 3: down and and ever since, honestly, ever since I started,
Speaker 3: I'm not this is for me. I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: tell anybody what to do. You know that. That's just
Speaker 3: something that worked for me. You asked me what the
Speaker 3: the origin of the name is, and this is it.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be preachy or tell anybody what
Speaker 3: to do. Nothing, just but it. Ever since I adopted
Speaker 3: this and started really applying those things into my everyday
Speaker 3: decision making and how I look at myself. I have
Speaker 3: attracted nothing but good things in my life. So it's
Speaker 3: it's pretty amazing, Like like I went from feeling completely
Speaker 3: and totally worthless, just like a bag of skin, to
Speaker 3: and like totally empty, to now feeling like like, I,
Speaker 3: you know, seeing what kind of value I can you know,
Speaker 3: you know, contribute. So it's nice, it's it's yeah, I
Speaker 3: feel completely different than I did ten years ago.
Speaker 2: DJ.
Speaker 4: Can I interject on that?
Speaker 2: Yes? Please?
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, well I just want to say
Speaker 4: I'm very sarcastic, but thank you so much for sharing
Speaker 4: that seriously, because you don't no, you don't know how
Speaker 4: many people are that you're helping and and you're by
Speaker 4: the way, you're your your channel as wild. I laughed
Speaker 4: my butt off every time that I watch it.
Speaker 3: The first time.
Speaker 4: First time I watched it, I was like, who the
Speaker 4: F is this guy? And then like I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my started watching the chat and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: these are these are my people? Okay, I love like
Speaker 4: the sarcasm and everything else. So you don't know anything
Speaker 4: about me. I'm I'm a armier and I was in
Speaker 4: the bomb squad unit, so I have a different type
Speaker 4: of humor just because I was one of one of two.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I bet your humor is dark.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: Chat Thank you both. Thank you both for your service.
Speaker 3: By the way, I have great respect for anybody who
Speaker 3: served in the military, So thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm glad the Air Force took me in
Speaker 2: and gave me a home, but thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very glad too, because I wouldn't want you
Speaker 4: in the Army. You're a much more Air Force guy.
Speaker 2: I have to get crap.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of military people, so it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, I have Air Force jokes, but I never serve,
Speaker 3: so I don't get to say them. So what I
Speaker 3: hear from somebody in the Army, I'm like, yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: Well, but DJ.
Speaker 4: Wasn't normal air Force either. He was Yeah, so he
Speaker 4: doesn't get as much crap.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just want to follow up on Will. I just
Speaker 2: want to say Will and thank you. Calypso thirty nine
Speaker 2: Army brats and you guys are just so important because
Speaker 2: without you we can't serve. We don't have that family
Speaker 2: to kind of hold us up. So thank you. Well,
Speaker 2: I want to say thank you that you didn't go
Speaker 2: through with it and that you're here because you're inspiring
Speaker 2: people like myself, like Jessica, like all these people in
Speaker 2: the chat, and when we see you, we want to
Speaker 2: meet you and talk to you. And that's why I
Speaker 2: invited you here today. You're you're a blessing. You're a blessing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so thank you so much.
Speaker 3: I don't know about all that, but thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: I see being invited here as a blessing most definitely,
Speaker 3: like you've got you've got a great community here. I'm
Speaker 3: looking at the chat. Everybody seems really cool. You can
Speaker 3: tell a lot about a creator from their chat. You
Speaker 3: can tell a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean. So we try to make a lot of positivity.
Speaker 2: We love people, and we like to welcome people here
Speaker 2: and just make them feel good. Amidst a topic that
Speaker 2: leaves us extremely aggrieved, extremely angry. We have to find
Speaker 2: some solace and comfort and and catharsis with in interacting
Speaker 2: with one another. And that's kind of like what we
Speaker 2: do on these shows. We want to bring lights this.
Speaker 2: We want to see Karen freed and out from under
Speaker 2: this mess that she's been put on put under, uh feloniously.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, as somebody is ma here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's another b Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 2: I got to have him on once too. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to put together in a round table and get him
Speaker 2: on again.
Speaker 3: So hell, he's just fantastic. Yeah, that's all I was
Speaker 3: gonna say. He is.
Speaker 2: He has such an incredible voice. He should be on
Speaker 2: television doing this. He should literally be on television.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Massa can like talk, stay on task and not
Speaker 3: not even breathe wi the chat while reading the chat
Speaker 3: and then comments, yes, hyping while he's talking, and respond
Speaker 3: to comments in the chat while it's it's I'm like,
Speaker 3: how do you even I can't even pay attention to
Speaker 3: one thing for more than in ten seconds attention.
Speaker 2: We have Adhd Masa and you're able to stay on
Speaker 2: point while you're juggling like three topics at once, so
Speaker 2: you have all together totally totally. So yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get you. We got to get going on that roundtable
Speaker 2: and we're gonna try. We have not spoken with Brian yet,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna try to get Brian analyzed. Suzanne Masa
Speaker 2: and maybe Nurse Kim to co host with me, to
Speaker 2: do a quad fecta try where one person takes Enrique
Speaker 2: one person has Sandra, one person as Turtle Boy, and
Speaker 2: one person as Karen.
Speaker 4: But okay, yes, ma'am, sorry, I do need to get
Speaker 4: on one of those awesome Glaire well, sorry, I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna call it Claire. I know the Farwells that I
Speaker 4: forgot to mention that I know the Firewells from the
Speaker 4: Birchmore Firewells because uh be able the you do you
Speaker 4: with mom squad unit. That's how I met Billy. But
Speaker 4: Matthew was actually his unit was was supported my unit
Speaker 4: while we're while we're state side, and then his his
Speaker 4: unit ended up supporting us when we were when we
Speaker 4: were deployed. But I think he had already gotten out
Speaker 4: or kicked out or I've been a deep dive on them.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot. There's a lot to those guys,
Speaker 4: But I love I loved watching you cover that and
Speaker 4: the passion that you have and everything else. So you guys,
Speaker 4: having you know, Missy and Susanne on, it's just, you know,
Speaker 4: people have no idea how much and I don't personally
Speaker 4: know how how hard that they've worked. But I just
Speaker 4: want to come in both of you on having them
Speaker 4: on because you know they're they need the exposure. They
Speaker 4: need the the not the credit, but just the acknowledgment
Speaker 4: of all the hard work that they've done, because you know,
Speaker 4: had they not, you know who, Sandra could have gone,
Speaker 4: you know, quiet, quietly, and nobody would have really, you know,
Speaker 4: potentially looked at this.
Speaker 3: So Missy, Missy is it on sung hero man? She really?
Speaker 3: I mean she was vital in in keeping Sandra's name
Speaker 3: out there and spreading information and uh yeah. One one
Speaker 3: thing I don't have any patience or empathy for is
Speaker 3: assaults that are of a of a sexual nature in
Speaker 3: any way, shape or form. I have no empathy or
Speaker 3: patience for it. I'm not going to try to understand it.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to try to. No, Like, if you
Speaker 3: are missing the very simple, if you're perverting something that
Speaker 3: is such a gift to the human body, you know,
Speaker 3: you're you're you're making it something ugly that is designed
Speaker 3: to be something beautiful. I have no quarter for you none.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have Suzanne here as well, and yeah, Susan, Susan,
Speaker 2: this is for you doing my Lebron James invitation. But
Speaker 2: you know you should maybe as former US Army Jess,
Speaker 2: you maybe should call out to public affairs or what
Speaker 2: we were already on it in Arizona. Yeah, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And beyond that, Okay, let them know that, well, William
Speaker 2: Farmwell is in their midst.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and also well, we will have to chat
Speaker 4: some time, just because I have no patience for the
Speaker 4: bullshit of the digital forensics, a lack thereof, lack there
Speaker 4: of investigation and all this other stuff. Well, like I said,
Speaker 4: we'll have to talk offline as to as to why.
Speaker 4: Eventually I'll start talking about it. But I'm heavily involved, heavily, heavily,
Speaker 4: heavily a pro pro osent pro digital forensics, educating people,
Speaker 4: educating people, and YouTube and stuff like that, especially the
Speaker 4: docs ares and things like that, and how and how
Speaker 4: easily it can be avoided. Granted, these docs as they
Speaker 4: just keep going and multiplying like cockroaches. But yeah, anyway.
Speaker 3: But I just something that's gonna happen. Man, it's really terrible,
Speaker 3: Like I don't understand, like I I don't, And I
Speaker 3: see that stuff happen on Twitter, and I'll tell people, man,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't approve or or can don't boxing
Speaker 3: if anybody's doing it. I don't care what their opinion
Speaker 3: is on this case. If anybody's doing that, that that's crappy.
Speaker 3: Don't do that. You know, there's you can you can
Speaker 3: make your opinion, you know you can. You can express
Speaker 3: your opinion without violating someone's privacy and you know, messing
Speaker 3: with their real life. That's not okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And luckily there said there's going to be
Speaker 2: a standout at Stoton City Hall. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that was tomorrow. So if someone wants to throw that
Speaker 2: up there, we also have the pleasure we had. Suzanne
Speaker 2: here is also working towards justice for Sandra, and let's
Speaker 2: face it, the Sandra Birchmore case. We are in such
Speaker 2: a great situation now because they have made an arrest.
Speaker 2: They've made an arrest, and that arrest will most certainly
Speaker 2: lead to other arrests or as a minimum, somebody else
Speaker 2: is going to be charged with something because the only
Speaker 2: bargaining chip that Matthew has is to dime out soul.
Speaker 3: Is very telling. The fact that it was a federal
Speaker 3: the fact that it was a federal charge is very telling.
Speaker 3: It rejuvenates my hope that that Levy's out there, he's watching,
Speaker 3: he's working, he's collecting and building that. That is how
Speaker 3: I'm taking that.
Speaker 4: But it takes time. I've involved as a victim and
Speaker 4: the federal case, and it took fires five years from
Speaker 4: target letter to trial to actually the sen sine just
Speaker 4: got pushed again.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the Massachusetts State Police were not interested in doing
Speaker 3: anything about it, so you know, and Michael Morrissey's District
Speaker 3: Attorney's office in Norfolk County wasn't interested in doing anything
Speaker 3: about it, so the FED stepped in. And I don't
Speaker 3: think that that was I think that a big reason
Speaker 3: why that happened was Josh Levy. That was Josh Levy's
Speaker 3: way of letting the public know that they're building a case,
Speaker 3: that they have not dropped this Michael Morrissey thing, that
Speaker 3: things are going to come together. I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: without discussing the case, I think that since the Feds
Speaker 3: are so tight lipped, I think that Josh Levey's method
Speaker 3: there was to make this arrest and be very public
Speaker 3: about it and hold this very public press conference about
Speaker 3: it and then say, you know, to me, that was
Speaker 3: his way of letting us know, we're working, we're we're
Speaker 3: getting there. Things are gonna happen. Don't worry. We have
Speaker 3: not gone cold here.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah. And so the situation with Sandra, I think
Speaker 2: is in their hands now, and I think that she's
Speaker 2: in a good place. Karen. We assume based on you know,
Speaker 2: what Sean has told us and others, but we just
Speaker 2: don't know one certainty until something happens. And I assume
Speaker 2: that by January if there isn't, if there isn't some
Speaker 2: sort of an appelled action that pushes back that second trial.
Speaker 2: Unless there's some sort of a arrest by January, I
Speaker 2: think that would be kind of some sort of a deadline.
Speaker 2: What do you think people feel?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is something that I've been thinking about recently
Speaker 3: because it keeps coming up, is whether or not the
Speaker 3: FEDS can in good conscious allow Karen Reed to go
Speaker 3: through another trial. I I am of the opinion this
Speaker 3: is the only way that I know how to make
Speaker 3: sense of it. I'm not saying this is the case.
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying I believe that to be the case.
Speaker 3: But it seems to me that what's going on in
Speaker 3: the trial, like what happened in the last in the
Speaker 3: last trial, all of that stuff is on record. So
Speaker 3: that's that could be used as evidence. So I I
Speaker 3: believe that Karen Reid's defense team is very much in
Speaker 3: communication with Josh Levy, considering I mean, what we we
Speaker 3: know this already. You know, that's how they got the
Speaker 3: two ye report, So we know that they're that they've
Speaker 3: been at least in direct content to some degree with
Speaker 3: Josh Levy. So I feel like they're probably like, well, listen,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get these guys, but you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: go through the pain of another trial, you know, and
Speaker 3: and you know nobody's going to let you go to prison.
Speaker 3: But if we can.
Speaker 5: If we can get a judge, and we can get
Speaker 5: a DA and we can get everybody who did who
Speaker 5: is benefiting in some corrupt way and acting out of
Speaker 5: the interest of justice in this case, that's what we
Speaker 5: want to do, and we want to get them.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they if if we're suspecting that Beverly cononi
Speaker 3: is corrupt, right, who's to say that Josh Levy isn't
Speaker 3: suspecting it? And how can he build a case against
Speaker 3: Beverly Cononie unless he allows her to do what she
Speaker 3: does and abuse her power? Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: So that actually was going to be my next question,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on Judge bev Oh.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if she's corrupt in the
Speaker 3: in the traditional sense, like in the sense where she's
Speaker 3: taking payments or things like that. I have no evidence
Speaker 3: of that. I have no idea. But when you're a
Speaker 3: judge who has sworn to make decisions that are in
Speaker 3: the interest of justice, and you consistently fail to do
Speaker 3: that with every decision that you seem to make, then
Speaker 3: that to me is considered corrupt. If if you are
Speaker 3: if if you have a file that's not doing what
Speaker 3: it's supposed to do on your computer, that is a
Speaker 3: corrupt file. Correct. So if if you're if you're a
Speaker 3: judge and you're not doing what you are supposed to
Speaker 3: be doing, then technically you are corrupt. So yes, I
Speaker 3: do believe that Judge Beverly Cononi is absolutely corrupt.
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought that from I'm sorry, go ahead, Jess.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, like, like I said, you DJ,
Speaker 4: you know a lot about so obviously I live in
Speaker 4: Chicago and I've seen that literally being the going off.
Speaker 4: What Suzanne said is when is he the corruption and
Speaker 4: being able to not being able to do anything about it,
Speaker 4: and it is just like it's most I want to say,
Speaker 4: the most debilitating thing ever, and because of because the
Speaker 4: cops are corrupt, because the people involved are corrupt, because
Speaker 4: you if you say something, are you going to be
Speaker 4: taken out? I mean, it's just it is scary. It
Speaker 4: is literally it is scary. And I've been war and
Speaker 4: I've been more scared probably the last few years than
Speaker 4: I have my entire life. So it's just it's it's
Speaker 4: it's awful and like I would not wish that on
Speaker 4: anyone at all.
Speaker 3: I get I'm I'm afraid of being recognized locally where
Speaker 3: I live now. I'm grateful that I'm not popular enough
Speaker 3: to where that's likely going to happen. But because of
Speaker 3: my very open opinions on this case, I get worried,
Speaker 3: you know, like you'll never see me walking around Canton
Speaker 3: by myself. That'll never happen. That'll never happen, right with sleeves,
Speaker 3: That'll never happen. But you know, so I actually get
Speaker 3: worried about it because you know. But the thing is
Speaker 3: is I'm not I can't not in good conscious not
Speaker 3: speak what my opinions are. I see people and I
Speaker 3: feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for news reporters
Speaker 3: who work for a conglomerate that won't let them express
Speaker 3: how they feel about these things when it's obvious. I
Speaker 3: feel bad for YouTubers who have you know, who count
Speaker 3: on their ad revenue, who are like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to rock the boat here, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't relate to that. I have to
Speaker 3: say how I feel about this. I have to speak up.
Speaker 3: I don't people will be like, oh, you're doing such
Speaker 3: good things, You're doing such good things. I don't see
Speaker 3: it that way. I see it like I just can't
Speaker 3: shut up about something that I see is blatantly unjust,
Speaker 3: you know, like that's it, you know. So I don't
Speaker 3: necessarily want to pat on the back for just be
Speaker 3: in a loud mouth about something that that I'm fissed
Speaker 3: off about, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean the fact that you're dedicated and
Speaker 2: there's a Scott saying for forty five dollars an hour,
Speaker 2: I'll walk with you. I love it, Scott. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm coming there in like two weeks, and I've thought
Speaker 2: of it as well. I thought of you know, what
Speaker 2: if I do get pulled over. What if somebody's seen
Speaker 2: my show and they saw that what I've said about
Speaker 2: MSP and so forth. But yes, Suzanne's gonna you know,
Speaker 2: she's got my back. So anyway, anyway, I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: for everybody in the chat, if you would take a
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Speaker 2: we love you just as much, so it's all good.
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody for participating tonight.
Speaker 4: Chat.
Speaker 2: Why I know these people are awesome, they do. We
Speaker 2: do have really a great group decide to grill. Thank
Speaker 2: you everybody for turn up. So yeah, if you got something,
Speaker 2: please put it in caps so we recognize it. Thank
Speaker 2: you be Harmony, Granny Nanny for smashing the like. That
Speaker 2: is so dope of you and dope in a positive way. Uh,
Speaker 2: but will let's get back to motive we have to have.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you put us in any other situation,
Speaker 2: We're in a bar somewhere, we're in a restaurant, we're
Speaker 2: out at a concert. There's a fight outside the path
Speaker 2: stadium in the parking lot. Nobody is gonna let John
Speaker 2: o'keef die. So we have to have some motive that
Speaker 2: we have to say he has to die, and then
Speaker 2: we also have believed it or not. I know this
Speaker 2: is going to shock you. Will there was someone in
Speaker 2: the house that googled Haslong to Dine Cold at twenty seven.
Speaker 2: I know you're like, no, that didn't happen. It's absurd,
Speaker 2: nobody would do nobody's dumb enough to do that. But
Speaker 2: there is.
Speaker 3: I was shocked when I first heard about that. I
Speaker 3: was like, wait a minute, no, but she didn't really
Speaker 3: do that, did she? What? But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I wasn't that surprised because I mean, you again, look
Speaker 3: at Brian Walsh, look at his Google searches. Look at
Speaker 3: let's teach you st stouts Google searches. Look at I mean,
Speaker 3: this is something that happens a lot. This is why
Speaker 3: celebrate is celebrated as much as they are in these
Speaker 3: very high profile trials in the last what five ten years,
Speaker 3: so at least almost every single one that I've ever followed,
Speaker 3: Celebrate comes into play to some degree. And then it's
Speaker 3: really interesting that they're going to use Celebrate to convince
Speaker 3: the jury that it's reliable and it's evidence against Brian Walsh.
Speaker 3: But the very same District Attorney's office that's going to
Speaker 3: try to do that, the very same prosecution team, well
Speaker 3: not the same team, but they're going to try to
Speaker 3: convince this jury that it is. So if I am
Speaker 3: Brian Walsh's defense, I'm gonna go, well, you guys spent
Speaker 3: the entire Karen Reid trial trying to convince this is
Speaker 3: convince that jury that Celebrate wasn't reliable, you know. Uh
Speaker 3: so this is just a big, big cluster f man, Like,
Speaker 3: it just is I've never seen anything like this.
Speaker 2: I'm nor have I mean, when you look at the
Speaker 2: totality of this case, I think I've heard Masa and
Speaker 2: others say it. When you start talking about Karen Reid
Speaker 2: with friends of yours who are like we could call
Speaker 2: them civilians that are outside of this case, You're like,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want me to tell you about it?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you have like an hour and a half,
Speaker 2: because I think we could, but I want to. I
Speaker 2: want Hey, what's up, Kate. That's right, proud Air Force
Speaker 2: brat with the home girl. I want to conduct a
Speaker 2: thought experiment with you guys here. So, uh, the glare
Speaker 2: just mentioned, uh celebrate, we could talk about hash values
Speaker 2: and how that cell phone extraction from Jennifer McCabe and
Speaker 2: John O'Keeffe h as the wonderful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need her for that because I I have.
Speaker 2: No no, no, that's not where we're going that that is,
Speaker 2: I'm setting the table right now.
Speaker 3: Because it makes sense what it's explained to me. But
Speaker 3: I couldn't begin to explain it. Again.
Speaker 2: No, we're not We're not going there. I'm setting the
Speaker 2: table for what I am going to ask you. So that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: for Olivia Lambeau, the hash values just means they could
Speaker 2: tell if the hash values are missing, then they don't
Speaker 2: have a complete extraction of their cell phone because they're
Speaker 2: he's in there that are missing hash values and that's
Speaker 2: where you know her deleted. Uh that like a forensic,
Speaker 2: full forensic extraction. She said, there's going to be a
Speaker 2: unique identifier. With each and every text, phone call, every
Speaker 2: operation the Google search, there'll be a hash value. When
Speaker 2: you're missing that, then that means someone has scrubbed something
Speaker 2: from that phone, and that's why they gave to the defense.
Speaker 2: Now that's not what I want to ask you guys about.
Speaker 2: With the thought experiment. I'm going to ask you guys
Speaker 2: to dissect words and apply them to my hypothesis. And
Speaker 2: then maybe there's more of a thumbs up, maybe there's
Speaker 2: a thumbs down, maybe there's a none of this is
Speaker 2: complete BSDJ All right, I'm there's an individual, like I said,
Speaker 2: shocking as it is, a wonderful soccer mom, loving mom
Speaker 2: googles has long or in this case, how long to
Speaker 2: die in cold. So now we have to try to
Speaker 2: from those words, try to figure out why would somebody
Speaker 2: google that? What does that mean? So let me go
Speaker 2: to Will and then let me let me go to
Speaker 2: Jess with that.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Will, because they're panicked and they're stupid, you
Speaker 3: know when the panic. But what does it mean to mean?
Speaker 2: What are those words? Why those words? Dissect those words?
Speaker 3: It means to me that she was aware that he
Speaker 3: was put out in the lawn and it was cold,
Speaker 3: and she thought that if he wasn't dead, he was
Speaker 3: near death, and and was expecting for him to die
Speaker 3: out in the cold for what reason. I don't know. Again,
Speaker 3: I have no idea to protect someone, obviously, but who
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Well, they're not going to protect Brian Higgins. I don't
Speaker 2: He's not a part of the family. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't think they give a shit about Brian Higgins. So there,
Speaker 2: and they kept going to these extraordinary links to try
Speaker 2: to say that Colin was not in the house. That
Speaker 2: that became a point of contention. He is not blood
Speaker 2: to them. He is another dude who's in the who's
Speaker 2: a friend of Brian Alberts, who works in the town.
Speaker 2: He is not precious. They would never say the word
Speaker 2: love and apply it, apply it to Brian Higgins, but
Speaker 2: they might to Colin Albert. Jess, what is your take?
Speaker 2: What do those words mean?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, my excitement overnight is when I deep
Speaker 4: dive into forensics and osin and geofencing and surveillance and
Speaker 4: data privacy and such. I firmly believe that she the
Speaker 4: tooth Google, that for sure, just another typical dumb well
Speaker 4: dumb alleged criminal making making a slip up mistake, thinking
Speaker 4: that they'd be able to cover their tracks. No matter
Speaker 4: what you type in your phone, anything that you turn
Speaker 4: your phone is registered regardless. I think that, honestly, I
Speaker 4: think that they were just trying to figure out when
Speaker 4: that they could put him out on the lawn time wise,
Speaker 4: to see how how like how long or how long
Speaker 4: it's take for his body to the body to cool down,
Speaker 4: so that their story could develop develop around that.
Speaker 2: To be honest, they're just the thing is is if
Speaker 2: I have to have a reason why I want to
Speaker 2: know how long it would take somebody to die in
Speaker 2: the cold, It's not a random search. So we have
Speaker 2: all this chaos going on in the house. Will is
Speaker 2: alluding to that people are panicking, perhaps except Brian Albert
Speaker 2: because maybe he's a you know, a sociopath who knows.
Speaker 2: But in that search, I'm going to conduct that search
Speaker 2: and use those words for a specific reason. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out what that reason is. Why do you
Speaker 2: want to know how long it's going to take him
Speaker 2: to die in the cold. The only reason I can
Speaker 2: come up with is that if for some reason he survives,
Speaker 2: he is going to I D someone someone is fidgeting
Speaker 2: with paper in the background, please go to mute. If okay,
Speaker 2: not me, Jessica, put you in the We'll put you
Speaker 2: in the Chicago Blackhawks penalty box. Anyway. I'm just kidding, Love,
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. So so if if that's if, if
Speaker 2: that's the case, if he wakes up, he's going to
Speaker 2: I D somebody that struck him in the in the
Speaker 2: back of the head, someone that that made that blow
Speaker 2: that was going to kill him. Not the punches to
Speaker 2: his eyes, not the punches that he blocked with it
Speaker 2: obviously blocked with his hands, not where he probably got
Speaker 2: hit in the nose. He is going to tell someone
Speaker 2: someone struck me in the back of the head with
Speaker 2: an object big enough to and and hard enough at
Speaker 2: all that left a gash in my head. And we
Speaker 2: only have three choices of people that could be. That
Speaker 2: could be Brian, Brian A, that could be Brian h
Speaker 2: or that could be Colin. And they've gone to extraordinary lengths.
Speaker 2: Even if it was even if it was Brian Albert,
Speaker 2: they're still gonna they're still going to collect a pension
Speaker 2: Brian Albert already is It's not that he was. I mean,
Speaker 2: he never went back to work according to McDonough after this.
Speaker 2: So the only one who's vulnerable who it would ruin
Speaker 2: his life or what the remainder of his life is Colin.
Speaker 2: I've never thought a lot about Colin Albert until you
Speaker 2: posted those videos and then I said, oh, so he
Speaker 2: was there, and everybody keeps trying to deny that he
Speaker 2: was there. Why would they do that, because well, he
Speaker 2: would have been charged with he would have been idd
Speaker 2: by John if John survived.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's sure that that's a set on theory, but.
Speaker 2: It's a theory, a hypothesis, that's it.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm saying this. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to put forth a hypothesis because I know there
Speaker 2: has to be a motive for murder. I do not
Speaker 2: believe that Brian Albert and Brian Higgins set out to
Speaker 2: murder John O'Keeffe. I just don't believe it. There's no
Speaker 2: way they just wanted to beat his ass, that Brian
Speaker 2: Higgins wanted to beat his ass, and then something happened
Speaker 2: that shifted to paradigm in that damn house.
Speaker 3: I think they liked John and wanted to more or
Speaker 3: less initiate him into their little circle of grab assing
Speaker 3: and tough guyness, you know. Uh, And whatever was going on,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but something, something more than just beating
Speaker 3: his ass is there. Because they beat him today. You know,
Speaker 3: they left them out on the lawn to freeze. So
Speaker 3: it to me there's something more than just a hazing
Speaker 3: going on here. There's there's something. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: you consider Brian Albert, you consider Chris Albert, you consider
Speaker 3: the salaries that some of these Massachusetts State Police officers
Speaker 3: are making, these Canton police officers are making. You know,
Speaker 3: there's again, man like it's it stinks, you know. So
Speaker 3: the answer to ninety nine out of one hundred questions
Speaker 3: is money. And when you see those very high salaries,
Speaker 3: you see very little money going into methods of investigation,
Speaker 3: you know, basic preservation of evidence and handling of evidence.
Speaker 3: I mean, these things, you know, but you see, these
Speaker 3: these cops are making insane amounts of money, insane amounts
Speaker 3: of money and to do what you know what I mean, right,
Speaker 3: So they're not being paid to be good cops, you know. So,
Speaker 3: and then you have the Alberts, Chris Albert on the
Speaker 3: select board. Uh you've got them fighting tooth and nail
Speaker 3: to to against the police audit. They're scared.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: So people's pockets are getting lined here. The question is
Speaker 3: did that have something to do with John O'Keefe's death
Speaker 3: and cover up? Uh? And And that makes sense to
Speaker 3: me because again, why wouldn't anybody just help them? Why
Speaker 3: wouldn't they just say, hey, you know, we were screwing
Speaker 3: around and he fell, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I've been saying those for weeks. Will That is exactly
Speaker 2: what I've been saying for weeks. And it's not until
Speaker 2: I saw your videos that I came up with a reason.
Speaker 2: Why didn't you that?
Speaker 3: What I get out of those videos is is that
Speaker 3: John O'Keefe was in the house. I'm not focused so
Speaker 3: much on Colin and his name being mentioned by KP
Speaker 3: and by uh By or was it was it Ali Ali?
Speaker 2: I believe I believe it wasn't Alan McCabe the one
Speaker 2: that came and picked him up. Maybe I'm wrong. Somebody
Speaker 2: correct me in the chat if.
Speaker 3: I don't know what, I'm confused.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you why. The thing about the initiative,
Speaker 2: there's one there's one sort of outlier here will And
Speaker 2: is this if you've ever been that guy that really
Speaker 2: wanted a girl, this beautiful girl, and somebody else had
Speaker 2: that girl when people are out and they get drunk
Speaker 2: and they see that girl and they're being ignored, and
Speaker 2: she's with another guy, and he's the sort of tall, handsome,
Speaker 2: not fat guy that John O'Keefe was that would have
Speaker 2: pissed off and really irritated Brian Higgins. I don't think
Speaker 2: that reason's.
Speaker 3: Got baby dick energy written all over him.
Speaker 2: Yes, and for that yeah, and for that reason, I
Speaker 2: don't think he was trying They were trying to and
Speaker 2: he initiate him into a friendship or some sort of
Speaker 2: a triumvirate of Canton idiots that they saw himself as.
Speaker 2: That's why I don't think that I think he wanted
Speaker 2: to beat his ass.
Speaker 3: Right I I that's just one thing that I speculate on.
Speaker 3: But because only because Chris Albert and Brian Albert seem
Speaker 3: to like him. So there's that. But uh, and Chris Albert,
Speaker 3: I don't think Chris Albert liked him, liked him. He just.
Speaker 2: Those photos in his yard right where he would have
Speaker 2: with him and say, oh look we have the beer
Speaker 2: cans and we're drinking in your yard. And I think.
Speaker 3: He rather but he rasked him for being the get
Speaker 3: off my lawn guy. You know, like if he was
Speaker 3: just more laid back, he'd be cool, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. That's what I feel. I feel like Chris
Speaker 3: Albert feels it felt about Don O'Keefe.
Speaker 2: Okay, as an older dude, there is nothing in the
Speaker 2: world more annoying. And I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 2: had this happen as an adult, of where a high
Speaker 2: school kid comes up and talks shit to you. And
Speaker 2: it's clear from from the testimony that Colin Albert would
Speaker 2: talk shit at at John O'Keefe, and John O'Keeffe probably
Speaker 2: did not like him, thought he was a smart mouth kid.
Speaker 2: He talked to Chris Albert about it, who just co
Speaker 2: opted and blew it off. And it is really really
Speaker 2: super annoying when a kid does that. And so I
Speaker 2: think there was beef between John and between Colin Albert.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's enough that Colin Albert would necessarily
Speaker 2: want to kill him. I think that when you have
Speaker 2: a drunk kid and there's a fight and him, you know,
Speaker 2: he tried to go to great lengths to say that
Speaker 2: he wasn't a fighter, and we found out how ridiculous
Speaker 2: that was. It didn't take Turtle Boy, you know, ten
Speaker 2: minutes to find videos of him fighting and that he's
Speaker 2: a bully over at Kent in high school. And so
Speaker 2: it's looked like it looks like that something like that happened,
Speaker 2: because why else if John had just here's the thing,
Speaker 2: and this I want to say this to you guys
Speaker 2: in the chat. If this was an accident and and Brian,
Speaker 2: let's say Brian Higgins punched him in the face and
Speaker 2: he fell, and he and you know the cradles, the
Speaker 2: metal cradles on a squad rack that hold the bar
Speaker 2: that you you know, you you cradle bar. If you
Speaker 2: fell and hit your head on those metal cradles, you
Speaker 2: could get a gash like that. You could have a gash.
Speaker 3: I would be surprised if you didn't, no.
Speaker 2: Question, no question, that you could have a gash like that.
Speaker 2: So now let's say that that's what happened to John.
Speaker 2: They have no no reason not to call nine to
Speaker 2: one one and save his life. We have to have
Speaker 2: a motive that they didn't want him to survives.
Speaker 3: Why I go in to La La Land of money
Speaker 3: that I have no idea that's why I go there
Speaker 3: because it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to
Speaker 3: me that they would just that because obviously the motive
Speaker 3: was to kill him. They wanted to kill him.
Speaker 2: Obviously they did well, I don't want to say they
Speaker 2: wanted to wanted to die.
Speaker 3: They counted on him dying absolutely, so, so I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, my whole thing is I I feel
Speaker 3: as though right now Karen Reid is absolutely innocent and
Speaker 3: and it's just one step towards it's just one step
Speaker 3: towards getting John O'Keefe justice ultimately, because I I I
Speaker 3: would love to know who is responsible for his death. Actually,
Speaker 3: but right now it's just it's it's amazing to me
Speaker 3: that there are actually people that still believe that she's guilty.
Speaker 3: It's it's mind blowing to me.
Speaker 2: Actually, it's there's not a piece of there isn't a
Speaker 2: piece of organic evidence. I see you here, Shila, We'll
Speaker 2: get you in there and it. Julie, if you star
Speaker 2: some of these, we'll go through them here in a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes. There is no organic evidence that points
Speaker 2: to her her guilt other than I hit him. I
Speaker 2: hit him, and I don't even think that's organic. I
Speaker 2: think that was made up.
Speaker 3: So I don't even since there's anything that's that's that
Speaker 3: could be counted as circumstantial, that's strong enough to be
Speaker 3: considered evidence. I I I everything that there's nothing but doubt.
Speaker 3: Everything that the prosecution claims to be evident is riddled
Speaker 3: with doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's all synthetic, planted, made up. Everything
Speaker 2: had to be. And I've said this on Twitter, So
Speaker 2: forgive me, those of you who read my tweets. Everything
Speaker 2: that points to gen to Karen's guilt is all manufactured, synthetic,
Speaker 2: planted evidence.
Speaker 4: With no evidence. No, not custody evans, chain of chain
Speaker 4: of custody, A custody these people, And I was worry.
Speaker 3: Come on, and I was on Melanie Little's channel recently.
Speaker 3: We discussed we discussed, uh, what was it? The uh
Speaker 3: the Brian Walsh case. We went over the details in that,
Speaker 3: and and we went over Michael Procter's report, his request
Speaker 3: for a search warrant, and you can see that Michael
Speaker 3: Procter is perfectly capable of conducting a very professional and
Speaker 3: thorough investigation. The case, the case against Brian Walsh's air
Speaker 3: tight so and and Michael Proctor did some really impressive,
Speaker 3: good thorough police work. So we know it's not negligence.
Speaker 3: We know that these just aren't Barny Fife dumb cops
Speaker 3: out there in Massachusetts. These are well trained, seasoned investigators
Speaker 3: and they didn't apply any of this when it came
Speaker 3: to right. It has to be on purpose, has to
Speaker 3: be because there's too much. If it was just one
Speaker 3: slip up, I'd say, okay, well even cops, good cops,
Speaker 3: make mistakes sometimes. But this is not Yeah, this investigation
Speaker 3: everything it is the It is the the the contrast,
Speaker 3: the direct contrast to the Brian Walsh investigation, same investigators,
Speaker 3: but absolute contrast to the Brian Walsh investigation, and that
Speaker 3: screams corruption.
Speaker 4: I want to know what Jen McCabe has on everybody,
Speaker 4: because the amount of bending over backwards and forwards and
Speaker 4: all the other dances that they do for her to
Speaker 4: protect her, I'm like, what does she have on What
Speaker 4: does she have on everybody?
Speaker 3: Because I think they all have something on each other.
Speaker 3: My opinion on that is is that they're all people
Speaker 3: are like people keep saying, well, somebody would have talked
Speaker 3: by now if there was a conspiracy, somebody would have
Speaker 3: ratted by Now. First of all, we're talking about busians.
Speaker 3: That doesn't happen. Second of all, second of all, they
Speaker 3: all have something to lose. They're all they can all
Speaker 3: be implicated in some ways, So they're they're all looking
Speaker 3: out for themselves. They're gonna keep their mouth shuts to
Speaker 3: cover each and every one of their own asses. So
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear this. Oh well, somebody would
Speaker 3: have talked about now know they wouldn't have Oh well.
Speaker 2: I think the person who explained this the best, Jess,
Speaker 2: getting to your point was And by the way, shout
Speaker 2: out to Mike Crawford. Mike Crawford is battling COVID, so
Speaker 2: he canceled his shows this weekend. We love you, Mike,
Speaker 2: and we hope. Yeah. Shout out to Mike and your
Speaker 2: boy man. Okay, here's the thing. Jess Shannon McMahon, former prosecutor.
Speaker 2: Former I don't know if she was a DA or
Speaker 2: assistant DA from Plymouth or something. She ran for major
Speaker 2: office in or she ran for district attorney in Plymouth.
Speaker 2: She said the way a conspiracy like this happens is
Speaker 2: not a bunch of people sitting around a table like
Speaker 2: with Doctor Evil stroking a cat and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: What happens is it starts with one thing, an incident happens.
Speaker 2: And I said this on the last show, will I said,
Speaker 2: the moment that a investigating officer in charge stood on
Speaker 2: the lawn of Brian Albert, the investigation began. The moment
Speaker 2: that that officer, whether it was an MSP officer or
Speaker 2: initially the Canton PD officers, the moment that they decided
Speaker 2: not to knock on Brian Albert's door, the investigation was
Speaker 2: over because at that moment they decided that this has
Speaker 2: to go a certain way.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Now you have to start with little things and their
Speaker 2: concentric circles. We start with a small circle and it
Speaker 2: gets larger and larger and larger. And at first we
Speaker 2: got to okay, what happened? All right? Someone here says
Speaker 2: Jen McCabe calls back a couple hours later and says, oh,
Speaker 2: I just had I just had a memory. I just
Speaker 2: remembered that I heard Karen say I did it. And
Speaker 2: then she calls you know, then the the ambulance folks say,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I heard her say I did it, I
Speaker 2: did it, I did it. Whatever, now they have to
Speaker 2: go into theory. She said her tail light was cracked.
Speaker 2: So then what's his name has to go get a warrant.
Speaker 2: And Peter Murphy told us he could have gotten a
Speaker 2: warrant to go in Brian Albert's house had it been
Speaker 2: Brian Smith in thirty to forty five minutes. He could
Speaker 2: have gotten a judge with a dead Postum police officer.
Speaker 2: He could have got a search warrant for that house
Speaker 2: in thirty forty five minutes. Sure that notwithstanding, So now
Speaker 2: we got to go get her car. Now we have
Speaker 2: the cracked tail light. Okay, what do we have to do.
Speaker 2: The first thing is we have to not take a
Speaker 2: photo of the car, which Bedro said on Kim's show
Speaker 2: last night. They had an amazing episode two or almost
Speaker 2: three hours of Kim and Better. He said, how that
Speaker 2: the most basic thing is when you go and seize
Speaker 2: the vehicle, you take photos of the vehicle and the
Speaker 2: tail light. Well, you can't do that because if you do,
Speaker 2: you'd be providing evidence to the defense. So you can't
Speaker 2: do that. Then you have to get it. You have
Speaker 2: to pass two Massachusetts Police sally Ports and go to
Speaker 2: the Canton sally Port. Then we can smash the tail
Speaker 2: light and into forty five pieces.
Speaker 3: So then carying up the frame job, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: was absolutely designed to get Karen Reid. Was designed around
Speaker 3: the idea that Karen Reid would take a plea. So
Speaker 3: that's why it was done so lazily. That's why it
Speaker 3: was done because you know, they never expected it to
Speaker 3: get to trial to where they'd have to explain the
Speaker 3: evidence how they got it. You know, they never thought
Speaker 3: that they'd get to that point. And so that's why
Speaker 3: it's so sloppy in my opinion, because again, now we
Speaker 3: know for a fact that these people know how to
Speaker 3: conduct the thorough investigation. We know that they do so,
Speaker 3: so based on that, you know, I mean, if they
Speaker 3: expected it to go to trial, we'd know that they'd
Speaker 3: probably be capable of doing a better job framing an
Speaker 3: innocent one too. Everything screams that they were that that there,
Speaker 3: Every every action that they did that that they performed
Speaker 3: here in this investigation dictates to me that it was around.
Speaker 3: It was surrounding the idea that Karen Reid was would
Speaker 3: take a plea. They are well.
Speaker 2: And by the way, jail Karen read people, they didn't
Speaker 2: find one piece of tail light on the lawn, the
Speaker 2: investigating officers from Kenton, not one, not one piece of
Speaker 2: tail light.
Speaker 4: I just want to know who confirmed that that I
Speaker 4: had Alexis and I had one, well, a different model.
Speaker 4: But Lexus is incredibly and I'm sure you guys have
Speaker 4: heard this on this kid on Nurse Kim's page. Lexus
Speaker 4: is incredibly safety conscientious with their part with their vehicle parts.
Speaker 4: For instance, they do not put they like most you know,
Speaker 4: most like driver or back sorry, you know, hands free
Speaker 4: parking and all that other jazz.
Speaker 2: They let other they.
Speaker 4: Let basically when it comes out, they'll let that technology
Speaker 4: go for a year on other on other vehicles and
Speaker 4: put in toyotas and things like that to make sure
Speaker 4: all the kings are worked out before they put the
Speaker 4: technology into their vehicles. No, no one confirmed that that
Speaker 4: that tail light was a Lexis O part. Nobody from
Speaker 4: what from what stand And yeah, that's just one that's
Speaker 4: one thing that's just amazing that nobody asked. I mean,
Speaker 4: who who's said who verified that it was an act
Speaker 4: that Lexus heart. I mean, does anybody know.
Speaker 2: I I don't know.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I just don't think that that that material uh if
Speaker 2: when smashed, I think they did. They did the test.
Speaker 2: I think when they do the test again, I think
Speaker 2: what they're going to do, Jess, is they're going to
Speaker 2: get If you've seen on those shows like those, it's
Speaker 2: a forged in fire where they have bodies and they'll
Speaker 2: go and make swords and stuff and they'll strike these
Speaker 2: bodies and it's all realistic, like it has internal organs.
Speaker 2: They need to get one of those, put it in
Speaker 2: a parking lot, get Alexis four seventy or four sixty,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and then back it up at twenty
Speaker 2: four miles an hour and hit it. Because I also
Speaker 2: don't believe the cocktail glass was with John. I don't believe. Well.
Speaker 3: I think the ACA guys and OURCA guys did their
Speaker 3: own you know, recreations and everything, and you know, the
Speaker 3: jury just didn't. It just went right over their heads
Speaker 3: because they assumed they were hired by the defense. Yes, so,
Speaker 3: I mean, but we know the nature of the ARCA
Speaker 3: experts and why they did conducted these things.
Speaker 4: And don't get me start with and sorry.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm going to tell you what I was
Speaker 2: going to tell you on our on our private uh
Speaker 2: chat will that I didn't get to tell you is
Speaker 2: that there is a there and Julie dis will resonate
Speaker 2: with Julie our chat moderator in there. Thank you, Julie, definitely,
Speaker 2: thank you Julie. You've had you know, she's just so smart.
Speaker 2: There isn't the analogous person's lou Elizondo. The former Pentagon
Speaker 2: GS fifteen is basically Sean McDonough, and then Plevin is
Speaker 2: basically this former getting a very bright video game creator
Speaker 2: uh British man who lives in California out in Silicon
Speaker 2: Valley named Mick West. He's the number one debunker in
Speaker 2: the UFO world. But what I do as far as
Speaker 2: those guys is when they say, and we'll can we'll
Speaker 2: get this Christine startup because we're gonna go to questions
Speaker 2: after this, is that if I were Seawan and he's
Speaker 2: developed an amazing audience. I mean, he's probably well over
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand followers after after the last time I looked,
Speaker 2: I don't respond to them. When when when people have
Speaker 2: come after calling all beings our UFO bigfoot show and
Speaker 2: a paranormal show, and they have said stuff. I what
Speaker 2: they want is my attention. They want me to say
Speaker 2: something to let them know that I care what they say.
Speaker 2: So when Kevin, the fact that they can infer if
Speaker 2: I respond to their tweet, they can at least infer
Speaker 2: I care what they said if I mute or block them,
Speaker 2: and they or even if I just mute them and
Speaker 2: I don't block them. So because if I block them,
Speaker 2: they know they're blocked. Right, they can tweet and tweet
Speaker 2: and tweet DJ calling all beings. You guys are grifters.
Speaker 2: You guys are frauds. And if I don't respond to them,
Speaker 2: it pisces them off because they can't tell that I care.
Speaker 2: And if I respond to them, they know I care
Speaker 2: and they know I play. Now I'm giving them the
Speaker 2: benefit of my platform and letting all of my viewers
Speaker 2: and followers see what they said. Instead, as far as
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, Kevin, they don't exist. They don't exist. They
Speaker 2: could say, DJ is you could fill in the blank
Speaker 2: after that. I'm not even gonna respond to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my only thing is that I DJ. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I told you this when I got to Afghanistan,
Speaker 4: there were This is my connection with the ARCA. So
Speaker 4: when I got to Afghanistan, we had three Air Force
Speaker 4: EOD techts that burn alive in a in an m
Speaker 4: wrap that did not had not been fit out with
Speaker 4: ARCA technology was far the seatbelt and everything else and
Speaker 4: once literally I'm not joking, probably probably within not even
Speaker 4: a few weeks of the ARCA technology and things like
Speaker 4: that had gone and gotten into the in wraps and
Speaker 4: I was in.
Speaker 3: I was in one that.
Speaker 4: Hit hit an explosion, and I'm alive because of that technology.
Speaker 4: So that's why I'm so upset about people are like,
Speaker 4: you know, oh, you know, they just.
Speaker 2: Run their mouths. They don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: They have no.
Speaker 4: Clue, and it's like, but then again, you're right, I
Speaker 4: mean I.
Speaker 2: I don't I so if if if if we go
Speaker 2: from zero to to a hundred of care factors, So like,
Speaker 2: I care what all my friends say, all these people here,
Speaker 2: I care, Like I'm in I'm I'm at that hundred level.
Speaker 2: Mike and Glare and all of you guys. Right when
Speaker 2: when you start getting to like a KP or you
Speaker 2: get to a Plevin, you see the number zero and
Speaker 2: I can't. There's no negative numbers after that, so I'm
Speaker 2: at zero. I can't. I would like to care less,
Speaker 2: but unable to care less than zero of what they think.
Speaker 2: So this is the reason why. So that's my approach.
Speaker 2: But that notwithstanding, let's go to questions. This is where
Speaker 2: you all can find Glaire. Julie put it in the chat.
Speaker 2: If you click on that link, it will take you
Speaker 2: to his page. You're gonna see that he's a lot
Speaker 2: sexier and better looking than me, and then hit the
Speaker 2: subscribe button.
Speaker 3: Please all that man, All right.
Speaker 2: Now, let's get to the stat Oh. Thank First of all,
Speaker 2: thank you team Britney. What's up? Thank you home girl,
Speaker 2: Hey GiB Less. Awesome Glaire your most important guest ever.
Speaker 2: And he doesn't speculate on rumor? Well, okay, I do.
Speaker 2: I'm no, I mean no, it's it's I don't want
Speaker 2: to use the words speculating, Brittany. I'm gonna say hypothesizing,
Speaker 2: because we have to just even what the police do
Speaker 2: if they were actually investigating this, which obviously they're not,
Speaker 2: but if they were, they would be trying to find
Speaker 2: a motive for why someone in the house did that,
Speaker 2: and and that's something that we have to do because
Speaker 2: we have to establish why you would let a fellow
Speaker 2: officer die. And it's not going to be because Brian
Speaker 2: Higgins didn't like him and wanted to fight him. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not that's not a motive for murder, A motive
Speaker 2: for murder. No, it's just not so I never really,
Speaker 2: I've not really thought about Colin Albert very much since
Speaker 2: I've been following or covering this case. But anyway, thank
Speaker 2: you very much for the five. I greatly appreciate that.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Uh so, she's a mod for me and in Melanie
Speaker 3: Little as well.
Speaker 2: Dude, and you and Melanie got such a great vibe. Man,
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: He's a mod for w f l A News. Oh really, dude, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the dude that looks like Jeff Goldblum kind of Oh really,
Speaker 3: I love that guy. I forget his name, but yeah,
Speaker 3: he's awesome. But she's a mode for him too.
Speaker 2: W f l A News.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, uh Bruno, oh I think his name is Bruno.
Speaker 3: Is JB? Yeah? Hey JB? Yeah, you got to say
Speaker 3: hey JB. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's get this one in some reality checks.
Speaker 2: Says but the rumor has it that his buddy Rick
Speaker 2: uh said he saw John go in the house. So
Speaker 2: I kind of think that because his ex girlfriend and
Speaker 2: Rick were gonna say that they didn't see him in
Speaker 2: the car. Mm hmm yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Don't speculate on rumor. Man I can't do it.
Speaker 2: He went in the house. Okay, So, Mantha, do you
Speaker 2: want to read this one? Glare you want me.
Speaker 3: To read it? Brian Albert killed John o'keeff, Higgins pulled
Speaker 3: dog off of John O'Keeffe's arm. Higgins ex told the
Speaker 3: Feds he called her that am crying, saying he didn't
Speaker 3: know why. Brian Albert took it too far and pulled
Speaker 3: the dog off John O'Keeffe. Brian Albert and Higgins out
Speaker 3: John O'Keefe out by flag, left him out. Okay, where
Speaker 3: did you get that information? Because that's very, very detailed
Speaker 3: and very specific. I mean, if that's true, you cracked
Speaker 3: the case. So is that any of that actually based
Speaker 3: on fact or?
Speaker 2: Also? Also, Samantha, there was one thing we have not
Speaker 2: mentioned this evening. Where's the injuries on Colin Albert's hand
Speaker 2: that he claimed was him trying to break his fall
Speaker 2: with his knuckles. So yeah, and he's say right, and
Speaker 2: he's never been in fight. Everything they say is just
Speaker 2: so stupid, right.
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing is that everybody up there lied
Speaker 3: on the stand. I don't know, I don't know what happened,
Speaker 3: but everyone lied like there's First of all, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say this, I saw I've been to thirty four fair
Speaker 3: of you. I saw the lawn with my own eyes.
Speaker 3: There is absolutely no way that all of those people
Speaker 3: walked out the front of that house, went to the driveway,
Speaker 3: got in their cars and did not see John'll keep
Speaker 3: lying in that lot.
Speaker 4: I think Julianna and Nagels saw her own reflection in
Speaker 4: the window of the blog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna. I think I'm gonna drive by there myself, because,
Speaker 2: believe it or not, I've roped in. One of my
Speaker 2: friends from the Bigfoot community, Tim Halleran, was just in
Speaker 2: Canton to have a meeting and he stayed overnight and
Speaker 2: he called me and said, hey, you know, DJ, you
Speaker 2: know I'm in Canton. I'm gonna and he went by
Speaker 2: the house and he said, yeah, this same thing. It
Speaker 2: looks really it doesn't look like when you guys look
Speaker 2: at Turtle Boy's background. The front yard looks really huge
Speaker 2: in Turtle Boys background, but everyone that's driven by said
Speaker 2: it's very small.
Speaker 4: Could have all those cars fit fit?
Speaker 2: Oh, six cars will fit in that driveway? Okay, so
Speaker 2: I mean it's a sixth car. It's it's been widened
Speaker 2: probably since it's wider than the garage. The driveway is
Speaker 2: all right. Uh, daniel Alexander wants you to wave U
Speaker 2: would you do that? Claire for Danielle.
Speaker 3: There you go. Danielle got a lot of fans. Man.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see Phoebe MC to the deal. DOUBLEG says,
Speaker 2: I don't think they necessarily have covered for Higgey, but
Speaker 2: no one has overtly thrown him under the bus. It
Speaker 2: may come to that when push comes to shove, but
Speaker 2: but thus so far they've let it just play out. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you don't have to do anything right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing. They're not under the gun,
Speaker 2: there's no pressure on them. What do they need to do? Uh?
Speaker 2: Mellow's arrest. Warrens is protecting Colin Hill.
Speaker 3: They're definitely protecting Colin. That's something for sure. But I'm saying,
Speaker 3: my whole thing is you know, I'm not convinced that
Speaker 3: they're protecting him because he murdered John O'Keefe. I'm saying
Speaker 3: that they're protecting him because he's family and he's the
Speaker 3: baby of the family. He's Chris Albert's son, he's Brian
Speaker 3: Albert's nephew, and why wouldn't they protect him. Seems like
Speaker 3: a very pat knit, protective family.
Speaker 2: So okay, let's let let me let's say it like this,
Speaker 2: will did they have to protect Juliana Nagel from from
Speaker 2: prosecution here or from well?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, you know, I mean again,
Speaker 3: Julianna Nagel talking about seeing a black blob laying there
Speaker 3: and not saying anything is not a believable story. So
Speaker 3: I'm I absolutely feel that he's absolutely aware of what
Speaker 3: happened in that house, and she's covering for somebody because she, again,
Speaker 3: could would be held accountable. She's a she's an EMT.
Speaker 3: She's a nurse, right, Yeah, she's an EMT. So why
Speaker 3: wouldn't she help him? Why wouldn't her instincts kick an
Speaker 3: and go? Is that somebody in the lawn stop the car?
Speaker 3: Hold on? I just got to make sure, you know,
Speaker 3: So I would do that.
Speaker 2: So let's let's let's turn it to another person, Carrie Roberts.
Speaker 2: Is anybody trying to cover for Carry Roberts.
Speaker 4: The Pick three girl?
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what name I say. The point, the
Speaker 2: point I'm trying to get at is obviously something happened
Speaker 2: there that probably scared the ship out of everybody in
Speaker 2: the house that knew about it, even though it happened
Speaker 2: in the basement, and everybody's trying to cover for this
Speaker 2: one kid, to include the injuries on his knuckles. So
Speaker 2: there must be a reason that they're trying to do that.
Speaker 2: They're not trying to cover for all these other people,
Speaker 2: They're trying to cover for this one kid. There's got
Speaker 2: to be a reason other than that he's a juvenile.
Speaker 2: That's not enough because there could have been there was
Speaker 2: other girls in the house. They're not trying to cover
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 3: Well, he's not a juvenile.
Speaker 2: Well at the time, he was eighteen. Whatever the point
Speaker 2: I'm getting at, he's a The point I'm getting at
Speaker 2: is everybody's focused on protecting him for a reason, and
Speaker 2: the only reason I can think of is he and
Speaker 2: his fist would tell you the answer is he must
Speaker 2: have been involved somehow in the altercation. He had to
Speaker 2: have been involved in something, otherwise they could be trying
Speaker 2: to protect any other person there. Oh no, No, that
Speaker 2: person wasn't there.
Speaker 3: No. I believe that he was involved in the altercation
Speaker 3: for sure. Of course, that the injuries to his hand
Speaker 3: dictate this. The lies on the stand dictate this. The
Speaker 3: the beef between them dictate this. So you know, Colin
Speaker 3: was definitely in the house. John O'Keefe was definitely in
Speaker 3: the house, and everyone is lying to protect Colin for
Speaker 3: some reason. I don't know, Carrie Roberts you mentioned. I
Speaker 3: think Carrie Roberts. I don't think Carrie Roberts actually knew
Speaker 3: at the time what was happening. Whether she knows now
Speaker 3: what happened or whatever, I don't know. But I think
Speaker 3: that Jen McCabe is in her ear quite a bit,
Speaker 3: and she she KP's her, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: She puppet masters her. So so I think that car
Speaker 3: she plays off of Carrie Roberts' obsession with John and
Speaker 3: jealousy over the women that he dates, because you know,
Speaker 3: she's always loved him, I guess. And I think that
Speaker 3: that Jen McCabe uses is probably using that to manipulate her.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that Carrie Roberts is lying to
Speaker 3: protect anyone necessarily. I just think that she is going
Speaker 3: along with whatever narrative the McCabe's in the eyes Albert's
Speaker 3: are feeding her.
Speaker 2: By the way, Harrah has made her appearance. There you go, harah.
Speaker 2: So she's gonna end up having to get kicked out
Speaker 2: because she will eventually step on the computer or attack
Speaker 2: the computer. Right, So that's just Harrah Harah. Don't mess
Speaker 2: with the microphone anyway, funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Clover doesn't let me stretch my feet out
Speaker 3: because he likes to plan himself right under my There
Speaker 3: we go, There we go, buddy, Thank you Harah.
Speaker 2: No, uh, would you read that one just right there
Speaker 2: from Scott because I know where he's going with this.
Speaker 4: Hello Scott, one of my favorite moderators.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a mod for me too and DJ.
Speaker 4: In what states would court, sorry, in what states court
Speaker 4: would evidence quote unquote be admitted after a crime scene's
Speaker 4: release to the public.
Speaker 2: So he's referring to the nine hours between when the
Speaker 2: Canton Police Department abandoned the scene eight or nine hours
Speaker 2: I think it was, and the MSP took control of
Speaker 2: that scene. So uh that that would not happen, Scott.
Speaker 2: I mean you you just would not do that. I
Speaker 2: mean I've been watching British crime shows lately. I mean
Speaker 2: they literally have tents up, they have a suit on
Speaker 2: to where they are completely covered head to toe, so
Speaker 2: like thank you, like has Matt gloves the whole nine
Speaker 2: yards and this idiot has the gall at the at
Speaker 2: the Canton select Board meeting to say, oh, that was
Speaker 2: good thinking to use the solo cups and then stop
Speaker 2: and shot back. I mean, and this is what upsets Analyze.
Speaker 2: Analyze was she was gonna come on tonight and and
Speaker 2: and she said, you know, they think we're so stupid,
Speaker 2: the way that they speak to us. And that's what
Speaker 2: really irritates her. And it really offends me as a
Speaker 2: New york That's what it is for me too.
Speaker 3: Like Scott. Scott is actually a retired New York City
Speaker 3: police detective.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's asking because it's it's rhetorical. He knows
Speaker 3: it's a real question. He knows that's not a thing
Speaker 3: like he he he knows that you don't, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, there's something really shady just from
Speaker 3: the beginning about how this case was handled. There's no
Speaker 3: ever any investigation where I have read reports for uh,
Speaker 3: you know, probably probable cause affict. David's nothing like that
Speaker 3: where I have seen that the scene wasn't secured immediately
Speaker 3: and and and I mean held down tight, you know,
Speaker 3: And I mean we're talking about a Boston cop here.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean the duty Ron and Eddie said,
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I'm not sure what Harr's eating
Speaker 2: right now. Hara, Yeah, so yeah, don't know. Yeah, don't
Speaker 2: mess with the cords. But anyway, I told you she
Speaker 2: was going to attack the computer at some point. Duty
Speaker 2: Ron and ed said, what, he goes, why did they
Speaker 2: not get a tent out there in a space heater
Speaker 2: and melt the snow beneath, beneath where the John's body
Speaker 2: was laying the entire crime scene? You know, basically you
Speaker 2: would want to do you know, a majority of not
Speaker 2: all over the front yard. He said, what do you think?
Speaker 2: He goes, Hey, guys, Massachusetts, I mean, it's snow's there.
Speaker 2: What do you think they do in Norway? What do
Speaker 2: you think they do in Iceland? Finland?
Speaker 3: Can't so if I want to be a serial killer.
Speaker 3: I'll just go, I'll just move to Norway.
Speaker 2: That's you know. Yeah, they'll just take a back.
Speaker 3: You can't, Yeah, obviously you can't solve a crime when
Speaker 3: it's snowing.
Speaker 2: No, you can't. And there's no way for you to
Speaker 2: melt the snow. It's impossible to melt the snow and
Speaker 2: see what the evidence could be beneath, because we have
Speaker 2: invented a technology yet that would enable us to do that, Like,
Speaker 2: we don't have a way budget. Yeah, yes, not well
Speaker 2: it's not in their budget because you have officers making
Speaker 2: three hundred grand a year.
Speaker 3: Ye, right, the sea.
Speaker 2: Normally not what we would do. No, it's not what
Speaker 2: we would do. This is me and lyon in the lawn,
Speaker 2: have you and I'm Jim mckabe Scott. I feel you, brother.
Speaker 2: I knew where you were going with that question. I
Speaker 2: figured you were a pro. All right, let's get to
Speaker 2: some questions right here for the glare, just as you.
Speaker 3: Why did Higgins say he did a sweep of the
Speaker 3: driveway when it didn't when it hadn't started snowing enough
Speaker 3: to sweep anything. I don't know. Nothing about Higgins's story
Speaker 3: makes sense to me because now I mean, we didn't
Speaker 3: find out until trial that higgins jeep was parked right there,
Speaker 3: and so that makes it even like he was the
Speaker 3: first to arrive right so why right there? That makes
Speaker 3: it even less believable for me that Karen would have
Speaker 3: backed into him at that speed and not you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, the roads slippery, she's you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like nobody heard a noise. She didn't back
Speaker 3: into Brian Higgins. John o'keef didn't hit Brian Higgins's plow
Speaker 3: in the front of the jeep. It makes no sense.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I don't buy that at all. I
Speaker 3: don't I don't buy for one second that Brian Higgins
Speaker 3: plowed the front of the driveway before he left or
Speaker 3: whenever he says he did. I mean, I don't buy
Speaker 3: anything he says, I don't know anything's saying.
Speaker 2: Well, why would you go back to the police station
Speaker 2: when you've been drinking all There's a couple of things
Speaker 2: that just guy culture. We don't do well. We're done
Speaker 2: after at the second after party, after drinking at two
Speaker 2: other bars. I'm going home, going to bed. I'm not
Speaker 2: going over to cant And police department to move the car.
Speaker 2: For the next day, so we don't so we know
Speaker 2: that's a lie. The second thing I'm not doing is
Speaker 2: after we're done with all that and I've spent the evening,
Speaker 2: I'm not calling Brian Albert to go, hey, how's it going, buddy.
Speaker 2: I know I just left. It's like, yeah, I'll talk
Speaker 2: to you tomorrow. Dude going to bed, Like, guys don't
Speaker 2: do that. So we know you're a liar, Brian. And
Speaker 2: we also know you're a liar, Brian. All right, Samantha Merriman,
Speaker 2: I got sources, folks close to the case. And Levinson
Speaker 2: also flipped to the FBI. You know, Samantha, Lord, our prayer,
Speaker 2: Lord here, our prayer, Samantha, that you are right. I
Speaker 2: pray that she flipped and that somebody will get arrested.
Speaker 2: Sarah Levinson.
Speaker 3: Sarah Levinson, is that got her name?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, got it?
Speaker 2: All right? Because they need to arrest somebody young that
Speaker 2: has a lot to lose, because I I I believe,
Speaker 2: or at least I think that if they were to arrest,
Speaker 2: for example, of Brian Albert, I don't know that he
Speaker 2: wouldn't necessarily flip on anybody. He would just think I'm
Speaker 2: going to jail and it's over, I'm gone. What do
Speaker 2: you think they lose him?
Speaker 4: He'd go on the run, he'd be for.
Speaker 2: They have the strike team, get Vic Mackie and uh
Speaker 2: and the strike.
Speaker 3: That's the impression I get from Brian Albert like he's
Speaker 3: got Vic Mackie vibes.
Speaker 2: Like totally who's also ironically from Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: Right, everyone is scared of Brian Albert like, and he
Speaker 3: clearly sat with Colin Albert and Carrie and Jen McCabe
Speaker 3: in the courtroom that day for the purpose of intimidating
Speaker 3: that jury. I absolutely believe that.
Speaker 2: So, Melissa, I feel what you're saying right here. The
Speaker 2: only thing that we don't have love is we need
Speaker 2: a motive to let him die, and that is not
Speaker 2: something that's not consistent with these two guys. I think
Speaker 2: with anyone in the house. There had to be a
Speaker 2: reason that they wanted him to die. And the only
Speaker 2: reason I can come up with is someone must have
Speaker 2: committed a felony assault on him that they thought would
Speaker 2: not be excused.
Speaker 3: Or he was aware of another felony, you know, or
Speaker 3: he was aware of something.
Speaker 2: But that is it's possible Will but that's external to
Speaker 2: everything we know. Now, we're conjecturing outside of the event
Speaker 2: if we look at the events itself.
Speaker 3: For what's my point is even still, that's that's you know,
Speaker 3: I I just can't jump on that, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: I possibly to me, that's your scenario is just possible
Speaker 3: as any other scenario, you know what I mean, no more,
Speaker 3: no less. Honestly, well, I have to finally die, that's
Speaker 3: the only thing. But I agree, we don't have a
Speaker 3: motive on normally, that's the first thing I'm looking at
Speaker 3: as a motive. The first thing that's and you can
Speaker 3: ask anybody who followed me from the beginning, I was
Speaker 3: like that was I kept harping on that. I was like,
Speaker 3: I need a motive here. I'm not going to speculate
Speaker 3: as to who kill him because I don't have a motive.
Speaker 3: Problem though, is the problem though, is we do know
Speaker 3: that he was in the house, and we do know
Speaker 3: that Karen Reid didn't hit him with her car. So
Speaker 3: that's the only one other place to go, which is
Speaker 3: inside thirty fourth Fairview. So I don't need a motive
Speaker 3: at this point to know that whatever happened to him
Speaker 3: happened inside that house. The problem is is that I
Speaker 3: can't I can't even speculate as to who did what
Speaker 3: because I have no idea what happened inside that house.
Speaker 2: Well no idea, Well we we, but now I feel
Speaker 2: I didn't have any idea until like twenty four or
Speaker 2: fourty eight hours ago. Now I think I have an
Speaker 2: idea because we had to have a motive for them
Speaker 2: to allow him to die, and I never thought of
Speaker 2: it and I never used that context or framework. I
Speaker 2: don't want to say that someone murdered him even though
Speaker 2: the law that's where we because the well, hold on,
Speaker 2: let me just finish. The law will charge someone with
Speaker 2: murder if they knew everything that happened, they would because
Speaker 2: someone struck a blow that that resulted in his death.
Speaker 2: So the law would call them a murderer. What I'm
Speaker 2: and and it would would can you know, try them
Speaker 2: as a murderer legitimately. What I'm saying is what actually
Speaker 2: occurred though, is there was an injury that they decided
Speaker 2: not to treat that resulted in his death. And to
Speaker 2: go to that length given the facts that we know
Speaker 2: beyond you know, without extending beyond the four corners of
Speaker 2: the waterfall Karen, Brian uh sexting, all these kinds of
Speaker 2: things beyond the Waterfall thirty four fair View and C. F.
Speaker 2: McCarthy's if I just use that prism the interactions between Uh,
Speaker 2: John and just by the what we know that is
Speaker 2: transpired between the individuals who were present at the two
Speaker 2: locations and at the party. That's where I come up
Speaker 2: with with Colin Albert, because they they would have to
Speaker 2: say that this is so egregious that if he talks,
Speaker 2: he somebody will be charged with felony assault. And the
Speaker 2: only the person who's most exposed, Brian Albert has obviously
Speaker 2: committed a number of felony assaults. He broke that bottle
Speaker 2: over the Boston fireman's head, He beat up the guy
Speaker 2: at the police, the Marine Corps ball and kicked him
Speaker 2: in the face, and other ones that Sean Sean McDonough
Speaker 2: has alluded to. Brian Higgins, I don't know a lot
Speaker 2: about his history other than like we talked about him
Speaker 2: being socially awkward. So the only other thing we have
Speaker 2: is the person who's exposed is Colin, because if he's
Speaker 2: charged with felony assault, it reshapes where his future is
Speaker 2: going to be. It does not reshape the future of
Speaker 2: Brian Higgins or Brian Albert because they can still get
Speaker 2: a retirement. Apparently, it seems like even even a proctor
Speaker 2: can can get his retirement even after being kicked off
Speaker 2: the force. So anyway, that's I'm not saying. So go ahead, love,
Speaker 2: Hi doggie, Olivia Lambo's here. Let me oh. We got
Speaker 2: to say hello to her, and I got to go
Speaker 2: back to that one that I just started. Where is she?
Speaker 2: I don't Olivia, and hey, holy guacamole, you're overthinking. Okay,
Speaker 2: hey this I am just I was Olivia. I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to come up with a hypothesis, that's all. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying he did it. I know he did. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm trying to come up with a motive.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm trying to do. But I do want it.
Speaker 2: While you're here, I want to say I've said it.
Speaker 2: On the last show we profiled some of your work.
Speaker 2: When I think at Nurse Nurse Kim on that show
Speaker 2: you did with Sean was absolutely amazing. What you taught
Speaker 2: us about hash values and complete forensic downloads of a
Speaker 2: phone that are unaltered, and you're absolutely amazing so thank
Speaker 2: you so much, Diane. Have you on the show. I
Speaker 2: did send you a DM, so you will see a
Speaker 2: DM from at all all beings and it's a bald
Speaker 2: headed person with sunglasses. That's me because we would love
Speaker 2: to have you on. You're just absolutely amazing.
Speaker 4: Sopot.
Speaker 3: Valuable source of insight.
Speaker 2: Yes, actually, Olivia, absolutely amazing. Your work is just what
Speaker 2: we learned. I did not understand all of the cell
Speaker 2: phone information at the trial, and it wasn't until you
Speaker 2: explained it to Sean that I understood it. That those singular,
Speaker 2: unique identifying fingerprints associated with each transaction on the phone,
Speaker 2: whether it be a search, a text, a call, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Now I understand it. So thank you. Mort That's what's up,
Speaker 2: And let me know if you want to come on
Speaker 2: here and talk about it, because I'm dying to have
Speaker 2: you on. Totally fanboying out and I'm not ashamed to
Speaker 2: say it should I be.
Speaker 3: I'm a big Olivia Nile fan as well. I I
Speaker 3: don't mind's fan boying for for anybody. It's if it's due,
Speaker 3: it's due, man.
Speaker 2: Like I know, like like Nurse Kim, I would be
Speaker 2: the president.
Speaker 3: Of I'm a Kevin Keene fan boy for sure.
Speaker 2: Kevin h Hey, I don't know have we spoken before
Speaker 2: or have you been on here? I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Okay, he's got a podcast. I was a guest on
Speaker 3: his podcast once.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. It's a really clever name too. It's
Speaker 3: it's it's a rock like a like a music podcast.
Speaker 3: And I feel like a dick now because I forgot
Speaker 3: because it's a really clever name too.
Speaker 2: Vin. Could you put it in the chat?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin, tell us what the name of your podcast is.
Speaker 3: It's great. I I had a lot of fun talking
Speaker 3: to him. Ken and Chris Loring joined us too. He's
Speaker 3: the guy who does the free care and read song
Speaker 3: that I play and uh yeah, he's the guy who
Speaker 3: did that. And so it's a hard rock life there
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. It's a I remember that from
Speaker 2: Austin Powers as well. Okay, so let's get Kevin's in here.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't the cops set up construction barrels with police
Speaker 2: tape if the wind was so bad, at least they
Speaker 2: could have gotten them from the water department, that is,
Speaker 2: if the cops didn't have them already. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2: but my answer to this is everything. You know. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like I tried out for this play at
Speaker 2: college one time, and the I was basically reading for
Speaker 2: a part, and then you'd go out and and they
Speaker 2: would basically give you sort of a screen test, and
Speaker 2: he said, I want everybody to come out in a
Speaker 2: dancing conga line, but I want you to do it wrong.
Speaker 2: I want you to not look cool. So everybody came
Speaker 2: out of it like the doorway dancing, and you had
Speaker 2: to dance like your most ridiculous worst dance. So that's
Speaker 2: what they did, is that everything was done. And obviously
Speaker 2: Will and I are in alignment on this. Everything was
Speaker 2: done purposely, incorrectly so as not to provide any exculpatory
Speaker 2: evidence to Karen. And if they would have done it correctly,
Speaker 2: it would have excluded Karen, and they didn't want that,
Speaker 2: so you couldn't do that.
Speaker 3: All of the evidence is practically exculpatory, almost all of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy like anything, like if if it's
Speaker 3: not solid beyond a reasonable doubt evidence, then it's exculpatory
Speaker 3: to some degree in my opinion at least. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm sure any lawyer will disagree with me, but I
Speaker 3: mean to me, all of these things, this lack of
Speaker 3: an investigation that took place as a whole, is exculpatory
Speaker 3: evidence in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. And the only thing, the only thing
Speaker 2: that isn't exculpatory are the things they presented. I hit him,
Speaker 2: I hit him, I hit him. That's basically their entire case,
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 3: But I mean, nobody credible testified to this, So I
Speaker 3: mean the credibility of those witnesses is down the tubes.
Speaker 3: You have Jen McCabe saying it. Jen McCabe lied like
Speaker 3: crazy on the STA again. And then you had Caitlin
Speaker 3: uh mc McCollum, m McCullough I forget her last name.
Speaker 2: You're talking about them, right, and she she.
Speaker 3: Was best friends with with Caitlyn Albert.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, well we went to the I mean I
Speaker 2: knew we're in high school. It's like, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: you were just at a baby shower like six months ago,
Speaker 2: and you visit each other in college and you went
Speaker 2: to the beach.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, And of course BEV wants to block that evidence. McLoughlin,
Speaker 3: thank you. BEV wants to block that evidence. But of
Speaker 3: course that has nothing to do with the fact that
Speaker 3: she uh has uh a a brother who represented Chris
Speaker 3: Albert when he killed somebody, right or that not going
Speaker 3: to do with anything, you know. So, I mean, this
Speaker 3: whole thing stinks. The whole thing reaks.
Speaker 2: The effort, the.
Speaker 4: Effort to make sure that the right evidence doesn't get
Speaker 4: in is just it's just an effort. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: exhausting just listening to it.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm a lot yours totally. If you are acting
Speaker 3: in the interest of justice, you were going to make
Speaker 3: vastly different decisions than Judge Beverly Canoni made as a judge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think she's I don't think justice is
Speaker 2: what she's acting. Katie McLaughlin, Yeah, you're right. I think
Speaker 2: I don't think justice is what she's after. I think
Speaker 2: what she's after is to finger Karen Reid for this
Speaker 2: murder and and just go along with maybe you know,
Speaker 2: they talked about there was a relationship between somebody in
Speaker 2: Michael Morrissey's family and maybe Judge Bev's mother. They're momed
Speaker 2: in the cafeteria together. So there's just too many She's
Speaker 2: a towny, you know, and I come from a town
Speaker 2: that's like that, and to a degree, I'm a towny.
Speaker 2: But guess what if somebody kills somebody or does something
Speaker 2: like this, I'm diming you out, man, just like just
Speaker 2: like the Las Vegas cops Gonzo and Brian said, I'm
Speaker 2: diming you out. I want to answer, Scott says, exactly,
Speaker 2: will It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.
Speaker 2: And the only thing that can be proven is that
Speaker 2: Officer O'Keefe was assaulted and not hit by a car,
Speaker 2: and Karen didn't do it. You're one hundred percent right
Speaker 2: and that that you are one hundred percent right. That
Speaker 2: is exactly what the defense their their tack needs to take.
Speaker 2: They need to take as a defense team is not
Speaker 2: focus on the conspiracy theory, but focus on how there's
Speaker 2: reasonable doubt, and if there's reasonable doubt, that means you
Speaker 2: acquit her For me, Scott, just like I did with UFOs,
Speaker 2: when I cover that topic is I'll hypothesize about things.
Speaker 2: And I have a lot more expertise when it comes
Speaker 2: to aviation and UFOs and what could potentially be an
Speaker 2: unidentified aerial phenomenon and what could be a terrestrial aircraft.
Speaker 2: But in this case, for the for the fun of it, Basically,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hypothesize and figure out what motive would
Speaker 2: there be, not that it's going to lead to anything,
Speaker 2: not that they can prove it, not that it matters
Speaker 2: more than because we're sitting here talking about it. So
Speaker 2: that that's my take on that. All right, it is
Speaker 2: time to get the glare out of here. The Vegas
Speaker 2: cop Daddy's like, you like the guns right of a
Speaker 2: gouns own, Brian.
Speaker 3: Were awesome, man, Like, those guys didn't come a moment
Speaker 3: too soon, because they they said everything that I wanted
Speaker 3: to hear from law enforcement agents. You know, I mean
Speaker 3: I was hearing it. I hear it from Scott, I
Speaker 3: hear it from Sean McDonough, you know, but to hear
Speaker 3: these guys go, wait a second, Like as soon as
Speaker 3: we heard about this case, we're thinking, how are we
Speaker 3: going to secure the crime scenes? First thing they do,
Speaker 3: first thing they get into is like everything from the
Speaker 3: beginning was done wrong here, Like there's no way that
Speaker 3: they're like, not only for a dead cop, not only
Speaker 3: would we have secured the house, but we would have
Speaker 3: secured the street. Nobody would have been coming down the
Speaker 3: street ever so not while we were investigating and on
Speaker 3: top of that, they're like, we would have absolutely knocked
Speaker 3: on the door of that house and gone and gone
Speaker 3: in that house, like you know, there's a there's a
Speaker 3: cop dying on your lawn. Dude, we need to go
Speaker 3: inside and make sure everybody's okay. You know. That's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's very simple that the fact that this stuff didn't
Speaker 3: happen and that there are people and I'm gonna quote
Speaker 3: Turtle Boy here verbatim, the dumbest people in the world
Speaker 3: think that Karen Reid is guilty Evans of the world verbato.
Speaker 3: And because I watched the video where plug and tried
Speaker 3: to troll them controlled himself and Joe Flipper had clipped
Speaker 3: it for me, and I watched it over and over
Speaker 3: again and laughed like a maniac every time I watch it.
Speaker 3: I laughed, it's so good?
Speaker 2: Would you have? Did you want to say something, Jessica,
Speaker 2: go ahead, ma'am.
Speaker 4: Well, first, I would like to say, I would like
Speaker 4: to know what play your auditioning for when you did
Speaker 4: that dance, and we would actually like to see that
Speaker 4: done on a live stream. Only because I grew up
Speaker 4: in theater and dancing and all that jazz.
Speaker 3: Which, by the way I want to be in the band.
Speaker 4: I did sing with Queen Latifa growing up, so I
Speaker 4: got the okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: Right on.
Speaker 2: So I was staying. My last duty station was Canon
Speaker 2: Air Force Base and there was a soccer team there
Speaker 2: of kids, and we used to a lot of them
Speaker 2: were international, and since my wife's from Brazil, we would
Speaker 2: have the kids over and just so they weren't like,
Speaker 2: didn't have a home to go to. So one of them, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're having a tryouts for a play and they asked,
Speaker 2: I said, well, can people from the town who aren't
Speaker 2: you know, aren't attending the college, can can we try out?
Speaker 2: And they said yeah, And I went out on stage,
Speaker 2: I spoke and that got me through to an audition
Speaker 2: and othello, I think was one. The second one I
Speaker 2: don't remember. I know I didn't get selected for the two.
Speaker 2: I auditioned for the one audition for that day. The
Speaker 2: second one they actually asked me could I do the
Speaker 2: part and come to rehearsal And it turned out, as
Speaker 2: you know, Jessica, I got deployed again Afghanistan and that
Speaker 2: was the end of that was the end of me
Speaker 2: being in a college play. So anyway, but it was
Speaker 2: it was fun to go out there and as a
Speaker 2: forty and what was I at the time, forty two
Speaker 2: or forty three year old and do it. So anyway,
Speaker 2: that's all right. There's way too much about me in
Speaker 2: this episode. I want to thank you guys for being
Speaker 2: in the chat and doing all your damn benness and
Speaker 2: there you go. This is what thank you, Samantha you
Speaker 2: are You are making us feel whole and making us
Speaker 2: feel good. Ken, Yeah, and Katie McLaughlin, I hit him story.
Speaker 2: I know Jen McCabe wouldn't know the truth if it's
Speaker 2: slapped her in her face.
Speaker 3: So he knows the truth. She knows the truth.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't speak she would not have speak the truth.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the right word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with
Speaker 3: you on that.
Speaker 2: So Glaire, tell us what you got coming up and
Speaker 2: what's happening soon on the on the show.
Speaker 3: Dude, I wing it every time, man, And whenever there's
Speaker 3: a development, I go live, I talk about it, I
Speaker 3: give my opinions on it, and that's it. I I
Speaker 3: there's no there's no uh, there's there's nothing organized about
Speaker 3: what I do. Absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, I know i'd like to organize another show with
Speaker 2: you on it. It was an absolute pleasure having you
Speaker 2: on the audience obviously loves you. And look we even
Speaker 2: got Jessica to make her first appearance on air.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much for having me. Well, it's
Speaker 4: so awesome getting to officially meet you. Now, maybe you
Speaker 4: won't ignore my chats and your chat. I feel ignored.
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm bad at interacting with the chat.
Speaker 3: That's why I have Cherry there. Cherry's Cherry's domain. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Cherry's domain is the chat. Awesome she is, She's She's
Speaker 3: great as as a Batman would say. I couldn't find
Speaker 3: my socks without her.
Speaker 2: Is that a dog or cat? What? What is Ernie?
Speaker 2: Is it.
Speaker 4: One of the mods in and Shorty's group? She just
Speaker 4: came chat?
Speaker 2: But hi, Ernie, how are you? But somebody is uh
Speaker 2: what is that a dog or cat? By your fees?
Speaker 2: Is that a cat? Her dog?
Speaker 3: Oh me, that's my dog Cluver Yeah.
Speaker 2: CLUBB as in CLUBB lang I dig it?
Speaker 3: Yeah all right. I'm a big Rocky fan.
Speaker 2: Ah love Rocky Man. Rocky one one of my favorite movies. EBA,
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: Movies, all of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, dig it man, dig it and we
Speaker 2: dig you. I want to thank you for coming and
Speaker 2: doing this and we hope to have you back again.
Speaker 2: Have you on a round table or something I think
Speaker 2: would be fun anytime.
Speaker 3: I had a great time. Thanks for inviting me now.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Pleasure Jules, Thank you Darling for doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Miss Jessica. To everybody out there, this is
Speaker 2: this is DJ saying peace out, one love. We'll see
Speaker 2: you down the road and we're always wondering what's up
Speaker 2: around the Bend.
Speaker 3: Bye, guys,