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<v Speaker 1>Can I get a man for everybody out there in

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<v Speaker 1>free Karen Reid Universe?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host DJ, and we have a special guest

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<v Speaker 1>tonight that just showed up in the studio and I

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<v Speaker 1>am so happy because I don't know where his brother

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<v Speaker 1>was at, but he's tracking like nobody's business because he

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<v Speaker 1>is what they call a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I'm saying? A professional? All right? Away?

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<v Speaker 2>There come again? All right? So, so yeah, I discovered

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<v Speaker 2>this brother very shortly. By the way, Julie, Hello, good evening,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. Thank you so much for being here, as

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<v Speaker 2>well as the rest of you in the chat. Hello Janine,

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<v Speaker 2>the Pilgrim Shadow, Miss Jessica, and bo DOUBLEG, who is

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<v Speaker 2>going to come on later and ask a question of

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<v Speaker 2>the Glare Analyze did not know that she had to

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<v Speaker 2>be on air, so she's given me a question to

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<v Speaker 2>ask the Glare tonight. Phoebe Man, all the stuff you're

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<v Speaker 2>putting out you give like so much really interesting, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>informative and dope information. So thank you, Phoebe MC appreciate you. Else.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Uh? Ditto? How ad you from Texas? It's up, homie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where I went to basic training. Uh, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I see a wit love. Some of these names are

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<v Speaker 2>super creative, but I'll tell you what we have to

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<v Speaker 2>get to our guest here. So I'm really interested in

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<v Speaker 2>tonight because I've watched his show and he's able to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of take these very complex pieces of information, much

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<v Speaker 2>like Mike does, and distill them down into something that

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<v Speaker 2>the audience can understand, especially when we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of legal ease and a lot of us, most

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<v Speaker 2>of us have not been to law school save for

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<v Speaker 2>a few of you out there, and he's able to

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<v Speaker 2>put that information out and he is straight fire with

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<v Speaker 2>his stuff. Man. He's not taking no crap from anybody here.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm very intrigued to learn about this gentleman this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that part of people, put those hands together

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<v Speaker 2>for Will the glare? Can I get it?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey man?

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<v Speaker 2>For Will? Yeah, that is what I am talking about, Will, Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to upgrade my my applause. My applause is

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<v Speaker 3>way lamer than that, dude, I need to upgrade. That's

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<v Speaker 3>like underous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you deserve it. Man. I am so happy that

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<v Speaker 2>you're here. I've been watching you for months, calling all

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<v Speaker 2>beings had just taken a foray into true crime where

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<v Speaker 2>one of our members of the show, whom none of

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<v Speaker 2>you are aware of, just because they only do the

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<v Speaker 2>UFO Bigfoot stuff, she went and did an investigation in

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania for a missing mother, forty four year old mother,

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<v Speaker 2>and it got really dangerous when it turned out there

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<v Speaker 2>was a mob connection. That's when I, yeah, like, while

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<v Speaker 2>she was there, I became aware of the Karen Reid trial.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I you know, saw my obviously Turtle Boy

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike and yourself and Masa and then Nurse Ca

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<v Speaker 2>and Sean, and I was like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna start talking about Karen Reid. So it's it hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been that long, but I have dove in like head first,

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<v Speaker 2>so right on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's pretty much what I did. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I always kind of talked about crime cases, but

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<v Speaker 3>but I was I was more part of this very

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<v Speaker 3>dark part of the crime community. And I was so

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<v Speaker 3>arrogant to think that I could get people to try

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<v Speaker 3>to actually look at these people like they're actually people

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<v Speaker 3>instead of just characters in some lifetime movie. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I failed, you know, I mean, people want what they want,

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to look at things the way they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to look at them, and they're going to judge people

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<v Speaker 3>the way they're going to judge people. And but then

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<v Speaker 3>I just separated myself from that community, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>started looking into this case and I decided to just

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<v Speaker 3>do it live, you know, absolutely, so, I mean some

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<v Speaker 3>might find that to be boring content, and it was risky,

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<v Speaker 3>but the thing was is there was a whole that

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't aware of, an entire community of people that

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<v Speaker 3>were seriously affected by this case. And and they have

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<v Speaker 3>been supportive of me since the since that first live

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<v Speaker 3>stream that I did, just kind of educating myself on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it's this is easily the most definitely the

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<v Speaker 3>best community I've ever been a part of, easily like

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<v Speaker 3>the most caring and the most yeah, just empathetic, good people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this this small group of content creators that we

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<v Speaker 2>have what I love because I'm so I started off

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<v Speaker 2>in the MMA community for like a decade, and then

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<v Speaker 2>three years ago I had had a UFO sighting as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, so I started doing And by the way, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>this show is not about me. I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>give will a sense of who I am, because he

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<v Speaker 2>probably has no idea who I am, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a former military guy, aviator type. And when the David Fraver,

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<v Speaker 2>the Navy guy, talked about that TICTAC encounter he had

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<v Speaker 2>off the coast of California and he was on sixty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes along with his wingman, I decided, Okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to start talking about UFOs and the disclosure of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a figure there named Louelizondo who's very much

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<v Speaker 2>a Sean McDonough. And there's a person there named Mick

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<v Speaker 2>West who's a debunker who's very much a plevin. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting the parallels. But I didn't come here to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about me. I really am interested in if you

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<v Speaker 2>would start off. I've been dying to ask you this question.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is Will the Glarer? Because you look like a

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<v Speaker 2>musician or something. Who is Will the Glare?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly what you see on my channel. I I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>lucky enough to to get to do this. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is what I'm like if I'm just hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>with people, you know. So yeah, I'm just grateful that

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<v Speaker 3>that people, for some reason are entertained by it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I just stick to what works, which is just being myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't go wrong there, you know, and tell people just

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<v Speaker 3>don't like it anymore, and it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna do? So I'm just grateful and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the same way. I do what I do, and

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<v Speaker 2>some people like it and some people don't, and that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, That's that's fine. So some

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<v Speaker 2>same could be said for all of us. For Turtle Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we love what Turtle boys doing. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>are turned off by him, that's their issue, but the

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<v Speaker 2>larger issue, what he's doing is so courageous and so important.

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<v Speaker 2>You have that similar courage that he does. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're inspired by him. I think all of us are.

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<v Speaker 3>I would never presume to even compare myself to Turtle Boy,

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<v Speaker 3>because turtle Boy actually does work. What I do I

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<v Speaker 3>don't consider work at all, totally. Yeah, Like jokingly, I

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<v Speaker 3>recently like like I put there in the uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I I jokingly I'm calling myself an independent commentator. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's just to be humorous, because it's just to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of take jabs at Sue O'Connell for being half asked

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to this case, so you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>she's a commentator. So you you talk, So why aren't

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<v Speaker 3>you talking about this? Like you're talking a lot, but

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<v Speaker 3>you're not saying anything. Uh so.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing meaningful?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So I've I've done the uh, I've done the

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<v Speaker 3>the self title of independent commentator. That's me.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah. And so you are you? Are you a

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<v Speaker 2>musician of some sort or a music person or no,

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<v Speaker 2>I was you were?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I haven't. I haven't picked up my guitar. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>my my guitar is over there with brand new strings,

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<v Speaker 3>but the neck is warped on it and I I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even touch it anymore. But I'm considering considering buying gear,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, and then seeing if there's anybody who

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<v Speaker 3>wants to throw down and make noise. But the problem

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<v Speaker 3>is is if I go down that rabbit hole, man,

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<v Speaker 3>that is, it's an expensive it's an expensive thing to

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<v Speaker 3>get into, man, And I don't know if I want

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<v Speaker 3>to do all that all over again. I'm old now,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like you know, and I'd have just as

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<v Speaker 3>much fun. I would. I'd have just as much fun

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<v Speaker 3>as I ever did. I know it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's so expensive, Yeah it is, I know it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's like flat one of my buddies talking to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to get into flying again? Because I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't flown in yours as a private pilot, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a pilot's license, and I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it is so expensive. I gotta sell my motorcycle, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe sell my mountain bikes, you know whatever?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I want to play music again? That bad? You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? Like, And if I had the

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<v Speaker 3>goal to, it's ironic because if I had the goal to,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, make money doing it, you know, then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, okay, But then when that happens, it becomes work,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I don't enjoy it, and then the quality

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<v Speaker 3>of the music is not going to be as good.

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<v Speaker 3>I know this for a fact because I was in

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<v Speaker 3>a band and all I thought about was, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do this all the time. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 3>then and we tried so hard, and we were frustrated,

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<v Speaker 3>and we argued all the time, and blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah. Uh and then the next thing I know,

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<v Speaker 3>we broke up. Didn't do anything for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a buddy who would come by the tattoo

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<v Speaker 3>shop from time to time would would you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>just started talking about it because he used to play

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<v Speaker 3>and and then we were just like, yeah, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>do it just to make noise and have fun. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when we were only thinking about just making noise

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<v Speaker 3>and having fun was when the good shows started to

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<v Speaker 3>come along, and and you know, we got to open

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<v Speaker 3>for bands that we liked and things like that and that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, So the the the irony there is is

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<v Speaker 3>if I buy musical equipment, I'm going to be wasting money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna lose money, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's I'm not gonna get anything out of that except

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<v Speaker 3>for joy that may or may not even happen. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna go out and try to start a band,

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<v Speaker 3>uh you know what I mean, Like I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go out and buy gear or well, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and try to start a band without having

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<v Speaker 3>any gear. And then I'm not going to go out

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<v Speaker 3>and buy a gear if I don't even know I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be able to put a band together, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean I'm old like and I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to play music with a bunch of young entitled douchebags.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to play music with old bitter assholes like me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm thinking of the FKR band and it's you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Mike, you know. Sean also is a guitar player.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't remember. Somebody said they sing. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember who said that they could sing. Oh, maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was Missy. So I mean, I think the Free Karen

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<v Speaker 2>Reid band is close at hand. We just need a drummer.

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<v Speaker 3>I can sing, just not well.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you, brother, You're like the edge from you two.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can do some parts of songs, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be sitting there trying to do bono.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was some b oh seaking of bands and

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know that show? Yeah, well, I know there's one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's the same show, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>one where a guy will have a drummer, like a

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<v Speaker 3>the dude from Tool come in and uh and then

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<v Speaker 3>be like, hey, uh, I'm gonna have you play along

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<v Speaker 3>to this Michael Jackson song, you know, or something a song.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll find a song that they've never heard before, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we're like, we want you to put your drum

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<v Speaker 3>tracks to it. You know, but a song, right? Is

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly the show.

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<v Speaker 3>That's super fun. Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuart just kind of came on and because there's another

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<v Speaker 2>when he was on, he was just you know, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>and he could not stop talking about how much Sting

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't blame him. I see Sting being that

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<v Speaker 3>gets on my nerves not so much these days, And

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be that guy that'd be like, oh God,

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm just like too old to care. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just like a lot of musicians.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have enough appreciation maybe for what another band

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<v Speaker 2>member brings, and they'll lose that appreciation. You too, has

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<v Speaker 2>There's no other major, major band that's been together that

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<v Speaker 2>think Stuart may be appreciated Sting enough, and they just

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna get those egos, man like, it just comes

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get anything really done. People are gonna settle, people

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<v Speaker 3>are gonna you know, somebody's gonna have to compromise. But

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's just got this, this grand creative idea, and it

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<v Speaker 3>must be you know, it must be you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>coming to fruition. It must be manifested into reality. And

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<v Speaker 3>and you're denying the world of your creativity, God forbid.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know you get three, four, five guys who

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<v Speaker 2>Who could imagine John John bon Jovi and Richie Sambora

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<v Speaker 2>not playing together, But it's happened, so it has occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Uh, I know these people didn't come here

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to all our musings about music. But when

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<v Speaker 2>we do another cab episode of music, which we did recently,

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<v Speaker 2>Will we had Mike, we had Mizzy, we had Suzanne.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to remember who else we had on four

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<v Speaker 2>or five people, and we all talked about we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to take a night off of what is about to

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<v Speaker 2>get us pissed off when we talk about KP and

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about what's just the filings of Mark Bedrow

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<v Speaker 2>and how they tried to you know, screw this woman

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<v Speaker 2>over and this man Turtle Boy. So we're about to

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<v Speaker 2>get really pissed off here in a second. So we

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<v Speaker 2>tried to do an episode where we just taught you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just talking about our favorite bands are Mount Rushmore

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<v Speaker 2>as of rock and it was really interesting to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>So next time we do. Oh, we had JFK came

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<v Speaker 2>on as well at the end and we were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>end the show. We were fifteen minutes from ending the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We went like another forty five. But next time we

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<v Speaker 2>have that show, you are going to be invited, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I think we invited you, but you might have.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been when you went to a festival.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you did invite me and I had to

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<v Speaker 3>decline because I had riot Fest in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there we go. All right, Well, dude, you you

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<v Speaker 2>have been all over this stuff regarding our boy, Turtle Boy,

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<v Speaker 2>the Courageous One. Hello Shirley, welcome, Hello Ann, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for watching that one. You know, this latest filing by

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<v Speaker 2>by you know what. I don't even remember the first

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<v Speaker 2>letter that Mark sent them. I just only remember the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you juxtaposed the two or you like me where

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<v Speaker 2>you don't remember the crux of the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>The first one was Jesus. Yeah, I mean I only

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<v Speaker 3>read it the one time when I was when I

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<v Speaker 3>was live, but I know that it was a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of three two one combos from better Row and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's basically staying the gist of the first one, was

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<v Speaker 3>basically calling for ten Melow to recuse himself from this case.

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<v Speaker 3>And basically better Roh and Bradle are accusing Mellow of

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<v Speaker 3>colluding with Tully and KP and LG who get Turtle

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<v Speaker 3>Boy locked up. Uh, and uh, this is I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think better Oh, he doesn't come off to me as

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of guy who's going to make those accusations

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<v Speaker 3>and on paper file them if he can't prove them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm I'm quite confident that Bettero can prove those

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<v Speaker 3>allegations in that in those letters, and I I absolutely uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for that to happen, you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see Turtle Boy go through this anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, and I feel I think

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<v Speaker 3>Turtle Boy feels this way is you know, he wants

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<v Speaker 3>his day in court. He wants to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>prove that these people are are dirty. Uh And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here for it. I'm here for every second.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it, one hundred percent. Yeah he he he he.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's costing him money to do this, but ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>in a civil proceeding, I'm assuming he can win his

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<v Speaker 2>money back. The fact that kp outed herself in such

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<v Speaker 2>a ridiculous in your face and and without any regard

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<v Speaker 2>to what she was doing in the operation, security of

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<v Speaker 2>what they were trying to accomplish, and and the hatred

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<v Speaker 2>that it takes. What did you what did you think

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<v Speaker 2>about that when you saw the level of hatred that

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<v Speaker 2>this woman has? And why do you suppose that is?

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<v Speaker 3>God only knows? What's funny? Is I don't care? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's her problem. She's she's a she's a miserable,

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<v Speaker 3>bad person, uh with and is full of hatred, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a bummer because the thing is, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>she's old enough to be accountable for her actions. She's

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<v Speaker 3>old enough to know how her actions affect other people.

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<v Speaker 3>She's old enough to be to have the guts to

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<v Speaker 3>be self aware. Whether she does have the courage to

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<v Speaker 3>to look at herself in the mirror properly and see

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<v Speaker 3>how she's how her behavior and her perspectives are affecting

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<v Speaker 3>other people. And you know, most of these people when

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<v Speaker 3>they do things like this, they think that they actually think.

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<v Speaker 3>If you put them on a lie detector test and

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<v Speaker 3>ask them if they think that they're actually helping people,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll say yes, and they'll pass. You know, they convince themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>They justify their actions in their mind by convincing themselves

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<v Speaker 3>that they're doing good things for other people, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>really you know, I mean, is she doing good things

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<v Speaker 3>for the Mcalberts. She she's intending to. Sure, But the

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<v Speaker 3>problem is is that the mcalverts have been lying the

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<v Speaker 3>entire time. I don't know who killed John O'Keefe. I

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<v Speaker 3>have no idea who actually killed the Boston Police officer

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<v Speaker 3>John O'Keeffe. I know that he was inside that house,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that Karen's vehicle did not strike him.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are two things that I know. So whatever happened

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<v Speaker 3>to him had to have happened by default inside thirty

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<v Speaker 3>four Fairview on the early morning hours of January twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two. There's just no denying this. So all

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<v Speaker 3>I know is that these people in that house are lying.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who they're protecting exactly. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>could see that they're protecting Colin, but it could be

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<v Speaker 3>that they're just protecting Colin because he's the baby of

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<v Speaker 3>the family, you know. So I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's helping these people, but she's not really helping

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<v Speaker 3>them because everyone, the whole world can see that they're lying.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole world can see that they're guilty of something

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<v Speaker 3>at least lying uh and covering something up. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, you have someone like this being your spokesperson,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a good look. So, no, she's not She's

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<v Speaker 3>not helping the mcalverts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, totally. I you know, I had an epiphantal

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<v Speaker 2>moment the other night based on what one of our

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<v Speaker 2>friends I believe it was Joe Flipperhead posted something. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's he's amazing. So you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, Joe flipp Ahead's first I hear Tom CPU's

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<v Speaker 3>voice saying Joe Flipperhead in my head. Whenever I hear it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just it's it's tattooed on my brain. Hearing Tom cpugo.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to give a shout out to Joe flipp Ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Flipphead. You heard of Joe Flippead, Like, that's all

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<v Speaker 3>I hear whenever I hear that dude's name, and I

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<v Speaker 3>love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you from Massachusetts? No, okay, so you're you're like me,

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<v Speaker 2>You're actually I went to college there, So I'm heading

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<v Speaker 2>back for our college reunion like two weeks from now,

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<v Speaker 2>but two weeks from today, actually I'll be there. So yeah, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know what you're what you're saying, but

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<v Speaker 2>you feel connected to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's my boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Tom, how's it going, man? I'm glad we are

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<v Speaker 2>connected on on Twitter now by virtue of that that chat.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do see your work on video and certainly

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<v Speaker 2>would want to connect with we adopted Will as well

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<v Speaker 2>as should.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I keep hearing that. That's one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm just like totally just I melt over is hearing. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the locals there like just individually will tell me you

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<v Speaker 3>know that I'm I'm I'm a Bostonian and I'm officially

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<v Speaker 3>a Bostonian to them. So it's like, Wow, that's an

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<v Speaker 3>honor considering how how tight knit Bostonians and the pride

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<v Speaker 3>that they take in being Bostonian, so it's it's an honor.

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<v Speaker 2>And they actually should be treating Karen Reid with the

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<v Speaker 2>same the same embrace, but they're not. They're treating her

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and they're really reaching man, Like I just

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<v Speaker 3>saw a post where they showed her making a face

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<v Speaker 3>in a picture. Yeah, and I'm like, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, you know, no class, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't make a silly face in a picture. Like

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<v Speaker 3>if I if I go through your photos on your

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<v Speaker 3>phone and I don't see a selfie of you making

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<v Speaker 3>a silly face somewhere in there, I'm going to assume

416
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<v Speaker 3>that you were a miserable fuck. Sorry for my language,

417
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<v Speaker 3>it's true. I'm just gonna assume it right away. I'm

418
00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:01.039
<v Speaker 3>gonna be like, you're miserable and life must suck for you,

419
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:03.000
<v Speaker 3>you know. It's I'm gonna say, I'm gonna think that

420
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 3>they're more more likely to have killed someone than the

421
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.400
<v Speaker 3>person who's making a silly face in a picture. You

422
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:08.960
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

423
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I had the exact same I commented on the same photo.

424
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<v Speaker 2>It's just so absurd because if that is some indicative

425
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:19.240
<v Speaker 2>of one's class. Then I must be classless because I've

426
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 2>taken mostly ridiculous photos in my entire life, because regular

427
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>photos don't look so good. And look, who's there, Suzanne Cleveland.

428
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Let me do my lebron Cleveland. This is for you.

429
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:37.400
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, how's it going? Welcome Suzanne home girl? All right,

430
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>So this is I had an epiphany that which I

431
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:43.599
<v Speaker 2>told Suzanne last night. So I'm gonna share it with

432
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:48.400
<v Speaker 2>you and get your comments on it. So I'm watching

433
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flipperhead's videos and basically he posts KP in her

434
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:59.400
<v Speaker 2>interview and then he posts Ali mckaine and in that,

435
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm just going to go through this and

436
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>then get your reaction to it. So in that you

437
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>have KP saying to the interviewer, I think it was

438
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 2>the one where she and Linda.

439
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 3>I actually posted that. Oh did you post it? Yeah?

440
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I actually yeah. I downloaded the two videos and posted

441
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 3>them next to each other on the on the on Twitter.

442
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 2>All right, Julie's calling me out because.

443
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Joe Flipperhead might have done it as well. I'm just saying, yeah,

444
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 3>I know that. I distinctly remember actually going Okay, I'm

445
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 3>posting this and this, these two videos side by side

446
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 3>next to each other.

447
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you because that may have been the one.

448
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>But let me be what the share the epiphanal moment

449
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:52.759
<v Speaker 2>that happened after seeing that. So you have KP saying,

450
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>as you know because you posted it, Oh, Colin wasn't

451
00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>even in the house when when John was there. Yeah,

452
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>And then you had Alan McCabe saying, oh see, Colin

453
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't in the house when John was.

454
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 3>There, right, almost verbatim on a stand yes, understand a

455
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 3>murder trial. Yeah.

456
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.519
<v Speaker 2>So I started going through my head and saying, what

457
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>we need to find here is a motive for murder.

458
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:24.960
<v Speaker 2>And the reason is this. If you have Brian Albert,

459
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, he fancies himself a fighter or some sort

460
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>of an amateur boxer. I don't know if he's competed

461
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 2>or if he just spars with guys or what. So

462
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 2>he obviously there's a call out in the bar by

463
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Brian Brian Higgins, and O'Keefe is thinking to himself. He's

464
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>thinking to himself, if I don't and I'm gonna I'm

465
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna use some callor for language, So I want you

466
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>to forgive me here, But this would be the language

467
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>they would use.

468
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm only watching my mouth because it's your show.

469
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't send to myself on my show, So

470
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 3>no talking. I just yeah, okay, yeah, I just because

471
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 3>I respect that other people's channels when I'm on them,

472
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 3>and I tried to watch my language.

473
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:06.839
<v Speaker 2>And bless you as do I. But I'm saying because

474
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>we have women in the chat and I don't like to,

475
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, a curse and mixed company and these kinds

476
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>of things. So O'Keefe is at the bar and he's thinking,

477
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I live in Copland. You have all these different cops

478
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 2>that live in Canton. They probably do all kinds of

479
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.599
<v Speaker 2>laundry room talk when they're over at cant and Pede

480
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 2>and and Higgins works there. And if this little bitch

481
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>calls me out and I don't show up, he's going

482
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to tell them then I'm a pussy. Then I'm a bitch.

483
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>If he says, hey, you coming and I don't at

484
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>least show my face at Brian Albert's house, he's gonna

485
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 2>die me out to all these other Cant and p

486
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 2>D guys that he called me out and I didn't.

487
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't take him up on it. So that's why

488
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 2>O'Keefe asked Karen to take him over there, and he

489
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>was only supposed to be there for a few minutes.

490
00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Albert overwhelmingly likely brings them down into the basement because

491
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.079
<v Speaker 2>that's where it's yay, you guys want to have a go,

492
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's go right down in the basement.

493
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 3>See, that's the scenario that makes the most sense to

494
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.920
<v Speaker 3>me as well. I mean, if I'm speculating, I think

495
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 3>that that's what based on the evidence what we know.

496
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>But it gets better. It gets better because even in that,

497
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.559
<v Speaker 2>even in them having a fight that is sanctioned by

498
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the ring master there, Brian Albert, we don't have a

499
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 2>motive for murder. So when John is injured, we have

500
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 2>to have a reason that they're not going to call

501
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.799
<v Speaker 2>nine to one one. There might has to be a

502
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:41.279
<v Speaker 2>reason that any normal person, even a drunk cop. These

503
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>guys are first responders. This guy goes down and is

504
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>looking like he's convulsing, someone's gonna call nine to one one.

505
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.960
<v Speaker 2>So what I surmise happen is those injuries that are

506
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>on the backs of his hands. He's probably engaged with

507
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Brian Higgins and perhaps because of this, this undying need

508
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.200
<v Speaker 2>to clear Colin of even being in the home. Why

509
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>would you be so dead set on that unless Colin

510
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>takes some sort of a weighted object and smacks him

511
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>in the back of the head with it, causing that

512
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 2>two and a half inch scar, he's defending himself from

513
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 2>the front, he gets hit from the back. Now, the

514
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 2>problem we have is if somebody calls nine to one one,

515
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:32.039
<v Speaker 2>John o'keef is going to the hospital. He's going to

516
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 2>the er, and he's probably gonna at least stay one

517
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 2>night there, just based on the injury to the back

518
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>of his head, and if he had was concussed, which

519
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 2>obviously he would have been, he is now going to

520
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 2>the DA is going to have to prosecute whomever committed

521
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>felony assault. So if Colin Albert hits him in the

522
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>back of the head while he's engaged in a fight,

523
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just I'm just throwing this out there, I

524
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know what happened, but I have to establish a

525
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>motive of why Brian Albert and Brian Hagens would let

526
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>him die. And it's not just because he's a dick

527
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and because Brian Albert is a violent maniac, as Sean

528
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>McDonough has put out on many occasions, so the DA

529
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 2>would be I think.

530
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 3>That's the question that everybody is stuck on, you know,

531
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm not the question that everybody's stuck on

532
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 3>his Why didn't anyone help him?

533
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why, because it's hold on. Let me just I

534
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:37.680
<v Speaker 2>want to extend this further, will because because now you

535
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>have a situation where the Norfolk County DA is going

536
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to have to indict this guy for felony assault, which

537
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 2>means police officer career for Colin Albert is over. Over

538
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and you know, having filled out job applications myself in

539
00:32:56.119 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 2>and out of the government. My wife as well, she

540
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 2>works and she's a cook. Every single one of them,

541
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.559
<v Speaker 2>have you been convicted of a felony? And every one

542
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>of them is using these national background check services. I

543
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:13.799
<v Speaker 2>can't think of what they're called. Somebody put it in

544
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the chat if you remember, but they're using these these

545
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 2>national background check services. What's up, Dennis? So if that

546
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 2>that is your motive for murder right there, because his

547
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 2>career aspirations are over, because he's gonna have to identify

548
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>himself as a convicted felon without question, not to mention

549
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever disciplinary action that Brian Higgins would have faced. Obviously

550
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Brian Albert was retirement eligible. I think that's their motive

551
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:49.359
<v Speaker 2>to let him die because if he wakes up, God forbid,

552
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 2>if o'keef wakes up, he is going to id callan

553
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Colin Albert as who hit him in the back of

554
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 2>the head. Right, That's all I got.

555
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:05.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just that makes sense, you know. But

556
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, to me, based on the facts of the case,

557
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Brian Brian Higgins had the most motive. Now I'm not

558
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 3>saying he did it. I'm not even saying I think

559
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:24.159
<v Speaker 3>he did it. I'm saying that if I'm speculating based

560
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.519
<v Speaker 3>on the facts that are made available to me, I'm

561
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:33.880
<v Speaker 3>going with Brian Higgins had the most motive. But that

562
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 3>also makes sense. That also makes a lot of sense.

563
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's there's all kinds of possible motives. There's

564
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 3>rumors that Colin Albert is a drug dealer. There's rumors

565
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 3>that that there's that there was something with something with

566
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Brian Albert and his partner, who was John O'Keefe's partner,

567
00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 3>or something to that effect. I'm not even sure exactly

568
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:04.159
<v Speaker 3>what that is, but there's there's rumors about this, and

569
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>the problem is is like those things are mostly rumor, right,

570
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 3>So I I don't speculate on rumor. So right now

571
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 3>based on the facts that are that that are made

572
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:18.159
<v Speaker 3>available to me, based on the video footage of Brian

573
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Higgins peacocky as micro Dots put it in his video

574
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 3>and and then uh, looking as though he could have

575
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>been calling John o'keef.

576
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Out no, no question right, you know that?

577
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 3>And well someone on Twitter corrected me, and I I,

578
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I you know, if I'm if I'm if I'm wrong,

579
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong, you know what I mean? It is what

580
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 3>it is, so so, And somebody on Twitter said, you know,

581
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.159
<v Speaker 3>in all fairness, will how do you know you can't

582
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 3>hear any audio. You don't really know what's being said.

583
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 3>You don't really know, you know, he he could just

584
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 3>be drunk and talking about something serious, but doesn't mean

585
00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.840
<v Speaker 3>he's actually calling him outside to fight. And that's true, man.

586
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean to me, if it's if it walks like

587
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 3>a rubber ducky in it it quacks like.

588
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:14.519
<v Speaker 2>A rubber you know what I mean. Sure, I've been

589
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 2>in enough situations where I have seen that point. I've

590
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 2>seen that that head movement, that person standing in between,

591
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>that was a call out for a fight. And then

592
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the follow up with the text because clearly these guys

593
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 2>were not friends and clearly and he followed up with

594
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the text you come in question mark question. So now

595
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>John Karen, Karen does not know. Karen does not know

596
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 2>why she's being asked to drive him there. As she

597
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>said in her interview, she said, I wasn't invited there.

598
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you were. I wasn't. I don't

599
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 2>know why you want to go there. I want to

600
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>go home. And he just so he he had to

601
00:36:57.960 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>go over there. And the reason he had to go

602
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 2>over there is because if Higgins called him out for

603
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 2>a fight and he doesn't turn up, then there's a problem.

604
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 3>And and he is trying to bang his.

605
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Woman and woman, yeah, and he once against something.

606
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, like it's it's it's just in our DNA man,

607
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 3>our testosterone dictates that we you know, like, don't out.

608
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 3>You call me out, you know, if I got to

609
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 3>take an ass, but I'll take an ass.

610
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:27.760
<v Speaker 2>But that's right.

611
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 3>If you're calling me out, we're gonna throw hands. Man.

612
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 2>It is what it.

613
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Is, you know.

614
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Sam Nagel, you would never call

615
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:39.480
<v Speaker 2>out Turtle Boy if you two were alone. Never. I

616
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 2>just want to say that, sorry, but.

617
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I that that was the most pathetic display

618
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 3>of of efery that I've ever seen.

619
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Like, that's why you know guy's a real puss is

620
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>when he does something like that. That's when you're one

621
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent sure, right.

622
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<v Speaker 3>And I guarantee you that Ryan Nagel gave him the

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<v Speaker 3>business in private for that, I guarantee it. Ryan Nagel

624
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 3>comes off to me as somebody who doesn't go around

625
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 3>picking fights, but will be the first one to throw

626
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 3>down if his friends are in trouble. It totally seems

627
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.440
<v Speaker 3>that way. I've known guys like him my whole life.

628
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 3>I respect guys like him most of the time. The

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00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.719
<v Speaker 3>problem is is that the people that he's friends with

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<v Speaker 3>are dirty, bad people and they're covering up a murder.

631
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<v Speaker 3>So that's the issue. But the thing is is Ryan Nagel,

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<v Speaker 3>I could tell the way that he chose to handle

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00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 3>it was all right, I'm gonna get my brother out

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<v Speaker 3>of there. I think that when he got in Turtle

635
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Boy's face, it was not to confront Turtle Boy. It

636
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 3>was to get his brother away. It was to bail

637
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.920
<v Speaker 3>his brother out of a situation that his brother wasn't

638
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 3>thinking through. So so that was his way of doing that,

639
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:02.000
<v Speaker 3>but not looking like he was. You know, it was

640
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 3>actually a I could see my brother doing this, you

641
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. Put it that way, but where

642
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm running my mouth and getting loud and being mister

643
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 3>tough guy. Instead of embarrassing me, my brother's not gonna

644
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 3>embarrass me. He's gonna go and he's gonna say, ah,

645
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm taking over blah blah blah blah blah, and then

646
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 3>casually get him, Hey, come on, let's go. Let's leave

647
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 3>this idiot alone. Let's go. You know, that's the impression

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00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 3>that I got. But yeah, Sam Nagel, I don't think

649
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.199
<v Speaker 3>is tough. I think he feels tough because he has

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<v Speaker 3>a tough brother.

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00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Because he had a whole group of people around him. Yeah,

652
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<v Speaker 2>if he would have been a lone e turtle boy

653
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>who has said nothing to that guy. All right, so

654
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Jessica is here, and then we'll go back to my hypothesis.

655
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I want to get Jessica's question in this is miss

656
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Jessica and be she is a chat moderator here and

657
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 2>also with Miss Shorty, so let's get her up on

658
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>stage here, Jessica, how you doing, my friend?

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00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Hi Jessica, I'm all right. Hi to Glearr.

660
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.119
<v Speaker 4>How are you?

661
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 3>You could just call me Will It's fine.

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00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, well, actually you're on You're kind of on my

663
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 4>poop list because I live in Chicago. It could have

664
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 4>gotten your real sick tickets to riot Fest and had

665
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 4>no clue that you were that you were here until

666
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 4>I saw your giddy face with Turtle Boy in the

667
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 4>car while he was talking to our car. So you're

668
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 4>on my poop list. But next there's always next year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you follow me on Instagram, you would

670
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 3>have known that I was. I was live on Instagram.

671
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 4>All the amount of times, the amount of times I

672
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 4>get on Instagram is not very many. I need to though,

673
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 4>But from now on, I'll follow you on Instagram and yeah, anyway,

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00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.360
<v Speaker 4>but it's nice to It's nice to meet you. So

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<v Speaker 4>sorry about you not being on the video. Uh, As

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00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 4>I told DJ, this weekend's been kind of a crazy

677
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.360
<v Speaker 4>one for me. Unfortunately, I flushed one of my AirPods

678
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 4>down the toilet. You know, just one thing after another.

679
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Not figuratively literally, Will.

680
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 3>I get it. Like, that's actually one of my fears

681
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I had when the camera phone first came out, and

682
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 3>excuse me, metro PCs put them out. I had one

683
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 3>and I paid a ridiculous amount of money for it,

684
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 3>and I had it on a belt clip. And I

685
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.920
<v Speaker 3>was at this club at Churchill's, at a show in Miami,

686
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 3>this place called Churchill's, and it's it's known part of

687
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 3>it's known for how dingy the bathroom is. Like it's

688
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>just I mean, you need a technic shot going in there.

689
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean it might be because it might be the

690
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 3>reason why my immune system is amazing right now. It

691
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 3>might just be is hanging out in that bathroom so much.

692
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 3>But the but yeah, I went to go pee and

693
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 3>my and then the thing fell off the belt clip

694
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 3>right into the toilet. So now I've ever since the

695
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 3>and that was like twenty years ago. Ever since then,

696
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 3>I keep, yeah, like I keep my phone way over

697
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 3>here when I'm peeing, Like I don't. I'm too scared.

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00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 4>You need a phone holder, like yeah.

699
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 3>Else, No, I'll never use AirPods for that reason, because

700
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.920
<v Speaker 3>they're just two little things. I'm like, yeah, I'll lose

701
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 3>one of them, guarantee.

702
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 4>The amount of lost, the amount of lost air pods

703
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 4>I've had, and I can never I could I actually

704
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 4>try to do to find my AirPod after I've lost it.

705
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Think you that I could just you know, mess with

706
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.800
<v Speaker 4>the plumbing or whatever. Yeah, no, it was long gone.

707
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 4>It was probably my underneath my neighbor's house.

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00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 2>By that point, I've lost at least two sets. But yeah, anyway,

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00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>my friend, what is your question for Will the Glare?

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00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Who we still want to the The genesis of that

711
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 2>name was what the Glarer? Oh, because someone in the

712
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 2>chat asked this question.

713
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh, man, I've told this story before, but I Uh,

714
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 3>I was in a real bad place at one point,

715
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 3>like I had a really bad uh mental health crisis

716
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.599
<v Speaker 3>put it that way. Uh. And and I was just yeah,

717
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.320
<v Speaker 3>I was just in bad shape, no sense of how

718
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 3>to manage it whatsoever. And then I and then I

719
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 3>got suicidal and uh and I mean rock rock bottom

720
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 3>like I I was. I was done. I was ready

721
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:25.679
<v Speaker 3>to go.

722
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

723
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I was at peace with it and everything, but I,

724
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, told a lovely I felt guilty not saying

725
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:36.920
<v Speaker 3>goodbye to certain people.

726
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

727
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 3>And then of course my loved ones intervened and then

728
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.119
<v Speaker 3>it was like I was. I was in a position

729
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 3>where I was like, all right, well, I'm either gonna

730
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:54.119
<v Speaker 3>there's no where lower to get than this, So I'm

731
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>either just gonna die or you know, I'm gonna go

732
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 3>through with this, or I'm going to, you know, for

733
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 3>the sake of my loved ones who actually you know,

734
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, made me feel as though I was, you know,

735
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.440
<v Speaker 3>worth saving. I was going to put in some work.

736
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 3>And while I was in this place mandatory for like

737
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:22.679
<v Speaker 3>ten days, I I came up. I started just focusing

738
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 3>like on, Okay, what do I need to do to

739
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 3>manage this to get better? What are what are? Yeah?

740
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>And so that's my uh it's so it's an acronym.

741
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 3>And I started thinking about and I wrote these things

742
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:44.079
<v Speaker 3>down and and ever since, honestly, ever since I started,

743
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not this is for me. I'm not trying to

744
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 3>tell anybody what to do. You know that. That's just

745
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 3>something that worked for me. You asked me what the

746
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 3>the origin of the name is, and this is it.

747
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to be preachy or tell anybody what

748
00:44:56.079 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 3>to do. Nothing, just but it. Ever since I adopted

749
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:07.559
<v Speaker 3>this and started really applying those things into my everyday

750
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 3>decision making and how I look at myself. I have

751
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 3>attracted nothing but good things in my life. So it's

752
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 3>it's pretty amazing, Like like I went from feeling completely

753
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 3>and totally worthless, just like a bag of skin, to

754
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 3>and like totally empty, to now feeling like like, I,

755
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, seeing what kind of value I can you know,

756
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, contribute. So it's nice, it's it's yeah, I

757
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Speaker 3>feel completely different than I did ten years ago.

758
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:51.320
<v Speaker 2>DJ.

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00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 4>Can I interject on that?

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00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Please?

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00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, well I just want to say

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00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm very sarcastic, but thank you so much for sharing

763
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 4>that seriously, because you don't no, you don't know how

764
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 4>many people are that you're helping and and you're by

765
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.880
<v Speaker 4>the way, you're your your channel as wild. I laughed

766
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 4>my butt off every time that I watch it.

767
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 3>The first time.

768
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:14.480
<v Speaker 4>First time I watched it, I was like, who the

769
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 4>F is this guy? And then like I was like,

770
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.280
<v Speaker 4>oh my started watching the chat and I was like, oh,

771
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.559
<v Speaker 4>these are these are my people? Okay, I love like

772
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 4>the sarcasm and everything else. So you don't know anything

773
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 4>about me. I'm I'm a armier and I was in

774
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:31.360
<v Speaker 4>the bomb squad unit, so I have a different type

775
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 4>of humor just because I was one of one of two.

776
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I bet your humor is dark.

777
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

778
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Chat Thank you both. Thank you both for your service.

779
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I have great respect for anybody who

780
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:46.440
<v Speaker 3>served in the military, So thank you.

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00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I'm glad the Air Force took me in

782
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 2>and gave me a home, but thank you.

783
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm very glad too, because I wouldn't want you

784
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:58.920
<v Speaker 4>in the Army. You're a much more Air Force guy.

785
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I have to get crap.

786
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of military people, so it's like,

787
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, I have Air Force jokes, but I never serve,

788
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.039
<v Speaker 3>so I don't get to say them. So what I

789
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.199
<v Speaker 3>hear from somebody in the Army, I'm like, yeah, you know.

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00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 5>Well, but DJ.

791
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't normal air Force either. He was Yeah, so he

792
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 4>doesn't get as much crap.

793
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:25.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I just want to follow up on Will. I just

795
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>want to say Will and thank you. Calypso thirty nine

796
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Army brats and you guys are just so important because

797
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.119
<v Speaker 2>without you we can't serve. We don't have that family

798
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:43.239
<v Speaker 2>to kind of hold us up. So thank you. Well,

799
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 2>I want to say thank you that you didn't go

800
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.800
<v Speaker 2>through with it and that you're here because you're inspiring

801
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:54.079
<v Speaker 2>people like myself, like Jessica, like all these people in

802
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 2>the chat, and when we see you, we want to

803
00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 2>meet you and talk to you. And that's why I

804
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 2>invited you here today. You're you're a blessing. You're a blessing. Yeah,

805
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 2>so thank you so much.

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00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about all that, but thank you, thank you.

807
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.519
<v Speaker 3>I see being invited here as a blessing most definitely,

808
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 3>like you've got you've got a great community here. I'm

809
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 3>looking at the chat. Everybody seems really cool. You can

810
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 3>tell a lot about a creator from their chat. You

811
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 3>can tell a lot.

812
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean. So we try to make a lot of positivity.

813
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 2>We love people, and we like to welcome people here

814
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 2>and just make them feel good. Amidst a topic that

815
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 2>leaves us extremely aggrieved, extremely angry. We have to find

816
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 2>some solace and comfort and and catharsis with in interacting

817
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 2>with one another. And that's kind of like what we

818
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:49.280
<v Speaker 2>do on these shows. We want to bring lights this.

819
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.800
<v Speaker 2>We want to see Karen freed and out from under

820
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 2>this mess that she's been put on put under, uh feloniously.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, as somebody is ma here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, there's another b Yeah, I love him.

823
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I got to have him on once too. I'm trying

824
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:15.960
<v Speaker 2>to put together in a round table and get him

825
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 2>on again.

826
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<v Speaker 3>So hell, he's just fantastic. Yeah, that's all I was

827
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:23.599
<v Speaker 3>gonna say. He is.

828
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 2>He has such an incredible voice. He should be on

829
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>television doing this. He should literally be on television.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Massa can like talk, stay on task and not

831
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.639
<v Speaker 3>not even breathe wi the chat while reading the chat

832
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<v Speaker 3>and then comments, yes, hyping while he's talking, and respond

833
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 3>to comments in the chat while it's it's I'm like,

834
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.559
<v Speaker 3>how do you even I can't even pay attention to

835
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.559
<v Speaker 3>one thing for more than in ten seconds attention.

836
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.880
<v Speaker 2>We have Adhd Masa and you're able to stay on

837
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.679
<v Speaker 2>point while you're juggling like three topics at once, so

838
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 2>you have all together totally totally. So yeah, we're gonna

839
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 2>get you. We got to get going on that roundtable

840
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:21.039
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna try. We have not spoken with Brian yet,

841
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:25.599
<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna try to get Brian analyzed. Suzanne Masa

842
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:29.880
<v Speaker 2>and maybe Nurse Kim to co host with me, to

843
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 2>do a quad fecta try where one person takes Enrique

844
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 2>one person has Sandra, one person as Turtle Boy, and

845
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 2>one person as Karen.

846
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 4>But okay, yes, ma'am, sorry, I do need to get

847
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 4>on one of those awesome Glaire well, sorry, I'm just

848
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:52.519
<v Speaker 4>gonna call it Claire. I know the Farwells that I

849
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 4>forgot to mention that I know the Firewells from the

850
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Birchmore Firewells because uh be able the you do you

851
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.400
<v Speaker 4>with mom squad unit. That's how I met Billy. But

852
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 4>Matthew was actually his unit was was supported my unit

853
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 4>while we're while we're state side, and then his his

854
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 4>unit ended up supporting us when we were when we

855
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 4>were deployed. But I think he had already gotten out

856
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:19.440
<v Speaker 4>or kicked out or I've been a deep dive on them.

857
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:21.719
<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot. There's a lot to those guys,

858
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 4>But I love I loved watching you cover that and

859
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 4>the passion that you have and everything else. So you guys,

860
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 4>having you know, Missy and Susanne on, it's just, you know,

861
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 4>people have no idea how much and I don't personally

862
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 4>know how how hard that they've worked. But I just

863
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 4>want to come in both of you on having them

864
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 4>on because you know they're they need the exposure. They

865
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 4>need the the not the credit, but just the acknowledgment

866
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 4>of all the hard work that they've done, because you know,

867
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.920
<v Speaker 4>had they not, you know who, Sandra could have gone,

868
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, quiet, quietly, and nobody would have really, you know,

869
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 4>potentially looked at this.

870
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:03.280
<v Speaker 3>So Missy, Missy is it on sung hero man? She really?

871
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean she was vital in in keeping Sandra's name

872
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 3>out there and spreading information and uh yeah. One one

873
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:17.079
<v Speaker 3>thing I don't have any patience or empathy for is

874
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:23.280
<v Speaker 3>assaults that are of a of a sexual nature in

875
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:27.000
<v Speaker 3>any way, shape or form. I have no empathy or

876
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.559
<v Speaker 3>patience for it. I'm not going to try to understand it.

877
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:33.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to try to. No, Like, if you

878
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.800
<v Speaker 3>are missing the very simple, if you're perverting something that

879
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 3>is such a gift to the human body, you know,

880
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:47.679
<v Speaker 3>you're you're you're making it something ugly that is designed

881
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 3>to be something beautiful. I have no quarter for you none.

882
00:52:56.400 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have Suzanne here as well, and yeah, Susan, Susan,

883
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 2>this is for you doing my Lebron James invitation. But

884
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you know you should maybe as former US Army Jess,

885
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 2>you maybe should call out to public affairs or what

886
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 2>we were already on it in Arizona. Yeah, okay, I'm

887
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:20.519
<v Speaker 2>on it.

888
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

889
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.159
<v Speaker 2>And beyond that, Okay, let them know that, well, William

890
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Farmwell is in their midst.

891
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, and also well, we will have to chat

892
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 4>some time, just because I have no patience for the

893
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 4>bullshit of the digital forensics, a lack thereof, lack there

894
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:43.119
<v Speaker 4>of investigation and all this other stuff. Well, like I said,

895
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 4>we'll have to talk offline as to as to why.

896
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.559
<v Speaker 4>Eventually I'll start talking about it. But I'm heavily involved, heavily, heavily,

897
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:55.400
<v Speaker 4>heavily a pro pro osent pro digital forensics, educating people,

898
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.400
<v Speaker 4>educating people, and YouTube and stuff like that, especially the

899
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 4>docs ares and things like that, and how and how

900
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 4>easily it can be avoided. Granted, these docs as they

901
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:10.599
<v Speaker 4>just keep going and multiplying like cockroaches. But yeah, anyway.

902
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:14.320
<v Speaker 3>But I just something that's gonna happen. Man, it's really terrible,

903
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't understand, like I I don't, And I

904
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 3>see that stuff happen on Twitter, and I'll tell people, man,

905
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't approve or or can don't boxing

906
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 3>if anybody's doing it. I don't care what their opinion

907
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.800
<v Speaker 3>is on this case. If anybody's doing that, that that's crappy.

908
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 3>Don't do that. You know, there's you can you can

909
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 3>make your opinion, you know you can. You can express

910
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:43.360
<v Speaker 3>your opinion without violating someone's privacy and you know, messing

911
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 3>with their real life. That's not okay.

912
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And luckily there said there's going to be

913
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.639
<v Speaker 2>a standout at Stoton City Hall. I don't know if

914
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:56.199
<v Speaker 2>that was tomorrow. So if someone wants to throw that

915
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 2>up there, we also have the pleasure we had. Suzanne

916
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:03.039
<v Speaker 2>here is also working towards justice for Sandra, and let's

917
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 2>face it, the Sandra Birchmore case. We are in such

918
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:10.480
<v Speaker 2>a great situation now because they have made an arrest.

919
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.599
<v Speaker 2>They've made an arrest, and that arrest will most certainly

920
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:18.880
<v Speaker 2>lead to other arrests or as a minimum, somebody else

921
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 2>is going to be charged with something because the only

922
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 2>bargaining chip that Matthew has is to dime out soul.

923
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Is very telling. The fact that it was a federal

924
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 3>the fact that it was a federal charge is very telling.

925
00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 3>It rejuvenates my hope that that Levy's out there, he's watching,

926
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 3>he's working, he's collecting and building that. That is how

927
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm taking that.

928
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 4>But it takes time. I've involved as a victim and

929
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:52.920
<v Speaker 4>the federal case, and it took fires five years from

930
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:57.079
<v Speaker 4>target letter to trial to actually the sen sine just

931
00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:57.880
<v Speaker 4>got pushed again.

932
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the Massachusetts State Police were not interested in doing

933
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 3>anything about it, so you know, and Michael Morrissey's District

934
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:11.599
<v Speaker 3>Attorney's office in Norfolk County wasn't interested in doing anything

935
00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:15.639
<v Speaker 3>about it, so the FED stepped in. And I don't

936
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.199
<v Speaker 3>think that that was I think that a big reason

937
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:26.320
<v Speaker 3>why that happened was Josh Levy. That was Josh Levy's

938
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 3>way of letting the public know that they're building a case,

939
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.039
<v Speaker 3>that they have not dropped this Michael Morrissey thing, that

940
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 3>things are going to come together. I think that, you know,

941
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 3>without discussing the case, I think that since the Feds

942
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:45.400
<v Speaker 3>are so tight lipped, I think that Josh Levey's method

943
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:49.920
<v Speaker 3>there was to make this arrest and be very public

944
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.960
<v Speaker 3>about it and hold this very public press conference about

945
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.079
<v Speaker 3>it and then say, you know, to me, that was

946
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.840
<v Speaker 3>his way of letting us know, we're working, we're we're

947
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:03.440
<v Speaker 3>getting there. Things are gonna happen. Don't worry. We have

948
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:04.440
<v Speaker 3>not gone cold here.

949
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Yeah. And so the situation with Sandra, I think

950
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:14.199
<v Speaker 2>is in their hands now, and I think that she's

951
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:18.760
<v Speaker 2>in a good place. Karen. We assume based on you know,

952
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:22.119
<v Speaker 2>what Sean has told us and others, but we just

953
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:27.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know one certainty until something happens. And I assume

954
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 2>that by January if there isn't, if there isn't some

955
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:36.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of an appelled action that pushes back that second trial.

956
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Unless there's some sort of a arrest by January, I

957
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:44.679
<v Speaker 2>think that would be kind of some sort of a deadline.

958
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 2>What do you think people feel?

959
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is something that I've been thinking about recently

960
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 3>because it keeps coming up, is whether or not the

961
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:56.760
<v Speaker 3>FEDS can in good conscious allow Karen Reed to go

962
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:03.320
<v Speaker 3>through another trial. I I am of the opinion this

963
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 3>is the only way that I know how to make

964
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.559
<v Speaker 3>sense of it. I'm not saying this is the case.

965
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even saying I believe that to be the case.

966
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:16.320
<v Speaker 3>But it seems to me that what's going on in

967
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:19.199
<v Speaker 3>the trial, like what happened in the last in the

968
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:22.480
<v Speaker 3>last trial, all of that stuff is on record. So

969
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:28.159
<v Speaker 3>that's that could be used as evidence. So I I

970
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:32.599
<v Speaker 3>believe that Karen Reid's defense team is very much in

971
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.599
<v Speaker 3>communication with Josh Levy, considering I mean, what we we

972
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:39.960
<v Speaker 3>know this already. You know, that's how they got the

973
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 3>two ye report, So we know that they're that they've

974
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:48.400
<v Speaker 3>been at least in direct content to some degree with

975
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Josh Levy. So I feel like they're probably like, well, listen,

976
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna get these guys, but you're gonna have to

977
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.039
<v Speaker 3>go through the pain of another trial, you know, and

978
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 3>and you know nobody's going to let you go to prison.

979
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:04.360
<v Speaker 3>But if we can.

980
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 5>If we can get a judge, and we can get

981
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 5>a DA and we can get everybody who did who

982
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:14.280
<v Speaker 5>is benefiting in some corrupt way and acting out of

983
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:17.480
<v Speaker 5>the interest of justice in this case, that's what we

984
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:18.599
<v Speaker 5>want to do, and we want to get them.

985
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:22.519
<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't they if if we're suspecting that Beverly cononi

986
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:27.079
<v Speaker 3>is corrupt, right, who's to say that Josh Levy isn't

987
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 3>suspecting it? And how can he build a case against

988
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Beverly Cononie unless he allows her to do what she

989
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.360
<v Speaker 3>does and abuse her power? Does that make sense?

990
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.960
<v Speaker 2>So that actually was going to be my next question,

991
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.119
<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts on Judge bev Oh.

992
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know if she's corrupt in the

993
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:49.079
<v Speaker 3>in the traditional sense, like in the sense where she's

994
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:52.159
<v Speaker 3>taking payments or things like that. I have no evidence

995
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:56.119
<v Speaker 3>of that. I have no idea. But when you're a

996
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:59.840
<v Speaker 3>judge who has sworn to make decisions that are in

997
00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:04.119
<v Speaker 3>the interest of justice, and you consistently fail to do

998
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:08.440
<v Speaker 3>that with every decision that you seem to make, then

999
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.119
<v Speaker 3>that to me is considered corrupt. If if you are

1000
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 3>if if you have a file that's not doing what

1001
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:16.960
<v Speaker 3>it's supposed to do on your computer, that is a

1002
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:21.599
<v Speaker 3>corrupt file. Correct. So if if you're if you're a

1003
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:24.239
<v Speaker 3>judge and you're not doing what you are supposed to

1004
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 3>be doing, then technically you are corrupt. So yes, I

1005
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:30.840
<v Speaker 3>do believe that Judge Beverly Cononi is absolutely corrupt.

1006
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I thought that from I'm sorry, go ahead, Jess.

1007
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:38.280
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, like, like I said, you DJ,

1008
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 4>you know a lot about so obviously I live in

1009
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 4>Chicago and I've seen that literally being the going off.

1010
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.519
<v Speaker 4>What Suzanne said is when is he the corruption and

1011
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:52.400
<v Speaker 4>being able to not being able to do anything about it,

1012
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 4>and it is just like it's most I want to say,

1013
01:00:56.079 --> 01:01:00.559
<v Speaker 4>the most debilitating thing ever, and because of because the

1014
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 4>cops are corrupt, because the people involved are corrupt, because

1015
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:06.360
<v Speaker 4>you if you say something, are you going to be

1016
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:09.760
<v Speaker 4>taken out? I mean, it's just it is scary. It

1017
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 4>is literally it is scary. And I've been war and

1018
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:16.559
<v Speaker 4>I've been more scared probably the last few years than

1019
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:20.960
<v Speaker 4>I have my entire life. So it's just it's it's

1020
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:23.599
<v Speaker 4>it's awful and like I would not wish that on

1021
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:25.159
<v Speaker 4>anyone at all.

1022
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:29.599
<v Speaker 3>I get I'm I'm afraid of being recognized locally where

1023
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I live now. I'm grateful that I'm not popular enough

1024
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.719
<v Speaker 3>to where that's likely going to happen. But because of

1025
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:42.119
<v Speaker 3>my very open opinions on this case, I get worried,

1026
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, like you'll never see me walking around Canton

1027
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:51.320
<v Speaker 3>by myself. That'll never happen. That'll never happen, right with sleeves,

1028
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.960
<v Speaker 3>That'll never happen. But you know, so I actually get

1029
01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 3>worried about it because you know. But the thing is

1030
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:01.480
<v Speaker 3>is I'm not I can't not in good conscious not

1031
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.360
<v Speaker 3>speak what my opinions are. I see people and I

1032
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 3>feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for news reporters

1033
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:11.440
<v Speaker 3>who work for a conglomerate that won't let them express

1034
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:14.119
<v Speaker 3>how they feel about these things when it's obvious. I

1035
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:18.599
<v Speaker 3>feel bad for YouTubers who have you know, who count

1036
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:21.199
<v Speaker 3>on their ad revenue, who are like, oh, you know,

1037
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to rock the boat here, you know,

1038
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I can't relate to that. I have to

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<v Speaker 3>say how I feel about this. I have to speak up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't people will be like, oh, you're doing such

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<v Speaker 3>good things, You're doing such good things. I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>it that way. I see it like I just can't

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<v Speaker 3>shut up about something that I see is blatantly unjust,

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01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:47.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, like that's it, you know. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily want to pat on the back for just be

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<v Speaker 3>in a loud mouth about something that that I'm fissed

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<v Speaker 3>off about, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean the fact that you're dedicated and

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01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a Scott saying for forty five dollars an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll walk with you. I love it, Scott. Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming there in like two weeks, and I've thought

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01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:14.079
<v Speaker 2>of it as well. I thought of you know, what

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01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 2>if I do get pulled over. What if somebody's seen

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01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:18.679
<v Speaker 2>my show and they saw that what I've said about

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01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:22.960
<v Speaker 2>MSP and so forth. But yes, Suzanne's gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's got my back. So anyway, anyway, I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody in the chat, if you would take a

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01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:35.400
<v Speaker 2>moment and hit the like button, and if you would

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01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:38.199
<v Speaker 2>also hit the subscribe button, that would be awesome. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're so inclined, if you like the sort of content

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01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that you're hearing, and if you like my absurd intros

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01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 2>or if you can ignore them and overlook them anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you have a question, put it in all

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<v Speaker 2>caps for Will or Jessica. And if you want to

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01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:00.719
<v Speaker 2>throw super chat our way, that's awesome. And if you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>we love you just as much, so it's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you everybody for participating tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I know these people are awesome, they do. We

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01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:14.480
<v Speaker 2>do have really a great group decide to grill. Thank

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01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you everybody for turn up. So yeah, if you got something,

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<v Speaker 2>please put it in caps so we recognize it. Thank

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01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.159
<v Speaker 2>you be Harmony, Granny Nanny for smashing the like. That

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01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:26.719
<v Speaker 2>is so dope of you and dope in a positive way. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but will let's get back to motive we have to have.

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01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you put us in any other situation,

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a bar somewhere, we're in a restaurant, we're

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01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.679
<v Speaker 2>out at a concert. There's a fight outside the path

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01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:49.920
<v Speaker 2>stadium in the parking lot. Nobody is gonna let John

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<v Speaker 2>o'keef die. So we have to have some motive that

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01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:58.480
<v Speaker 2>we have to say he has to die, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we also have believed it or not. I know this

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01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:03.320
<v Speaker 2>is going to shock you. Will there was someone in

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01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the house that googled Haslong to Dine Cold at twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're like, no, that didn't happen. It's absurd,

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01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.920
<v Speaker 2>nobody would do nobody's dumb enough to do that. But

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01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 2>there is.

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<v Speaker 3>I was shocked when I first heard about that. I

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01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.039
<v Speaker 3>was like, wait a minute, no, but she didn't really

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01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 3>do that, did she? What? But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't that surprised because I mean, you again, look

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01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:29.440
<v Speaker 3>at Brian Walsh, look at his Google searches. Look at

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01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.760
<v Speaker 3>let's teach you st stouts Google searches. Look at I mean,

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01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:36.719
<v Speaker 3>this is something that happens a lot. This is why

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate is celebrated as much as they are in these

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<v Speaker 3>very high profile trials in the last what five ten years,

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<v Speaker 3>so at least almost every single one that I've ever followed,

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<v Speaker 3>Celebrate comes into play to some degree. And then it's

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<v Speaker 3>really interesting that they're going to use Celebrate to convince

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01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 3>the jury that it's reliable and it's evidence against Brian Walsh.

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01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:09.199
<v Speaker 3>But the very same District Attorney's office that's going to

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01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:13.480
<v Speaker 3>try to do that, the very same prosecution team, well

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01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:15.920
<v Speaker 3>not the same team, but they're going to try to

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01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:19.079
<v Speaker 3>convince this jury that it is. So if I am

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01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Brian Walsh's defense, I'm gonna go, well, you guys spent

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01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.599
<v Speaker 3>the entire Karen Reid trial trying to convince this is

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01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 3>convince that jury that Celebrate wasn't reliable, you know. Uh

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01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:36.519
<v Speaker 3>so this is just a big, big cluster f man, Like,

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01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:39.280
<v Speaker 3>it just is I've never seen anything like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nor have I mean, when you look at the

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01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:45.159
<v Speaker 2>totality of this case, I think I've heard Masa and

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01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:47.519
<v Speaker 2>others say it. When you start talking about Karen Reid

1113
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<v Speaker 2>with friends of yours who are like we could call

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<v Speaker 2>them civilians that are outside of this case, You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you want me to tell you about it?

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01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you have like an hour and a half,

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01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.280
<v Speaker 2>because I think we could, but I want to. I

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<v Speaker 2>want Hey, what's up, Kate. That's right, proud Air Force

1119
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:08.360
<v Speaker 2>brat with the home girl. I want to conduct a

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01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:14.960
<v Speaker 2>thought experiment with you guys here. So, uh, the glare

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01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:19.440
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned, uh celebrate, we could talk about hash values

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01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and how that cell phone extraction from Jennifer McCabe and

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<v Speaker 2>John O'Keeffe h as the wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you need her for that because I I have.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, that's not where we're going that that is,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm setting the table right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it makes sense what it's explained to me. But

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't begin to explain it. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're not We're not going there. I'm setting the

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<v Speaker 2>table for what I am going to ask you. So that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for Olivia Lambeau, the hash values just means they could

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<v Speaker 2>tell if the hash values are missing, then they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a complete extraction of their cell phone because they're

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<v Speaker 2>he's in there that are missing hash values and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where you know her deleted. Uh that like a forensic,

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01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:10.480
<v Speaker 2>full forensic extraction. She said, there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>unique identifier. With each and every text, phone call, every

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01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:19.600
<v Speaker 2>operation the Google search, there'll be a hash value. When

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01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:23.680
<v Speaker 2>you're missing that, then that means someone has scrubbed something

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01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:26.920
<v Speaker 2>from that phone, and that's why they gave to the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's not what I want to ask you guys about.

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<v Speaker 2>With the thought experiment. I'm going to ask you guys

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<v Speaker 2>to dissect words and apply them to my hypothesis. And

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe there's more of a thumbs up, maybe there's

1145
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:42.159
<v Speaker 2>a thumbs down, maybe there's a none of this is

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<v Speaker 2>complete BSDJ All right, I'm there's an individual, like I said,

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01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:52.239
<v Speaker 2>shocking as it is, a wonderful soccer mom, loving mom

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01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:57.239
<v Speaker 2>googles has long or in this case, how long to

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<v Speaker 2>die in cold. So now we have to try to

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01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:05.239
<v Speaker 2>from those words, try to figure out why would somebody

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<v Speaker 2>google that? What does that mean? So let me go

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01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 2>to Will and then let me let me go to

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01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Jess with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Will, because they're panicked and they're stupid, you

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01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:19.199
<v Speaker 3>know when the panic. But what does it mean to mean?

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<v Speaker 2>What are those words? Why those words? Dissect those words?

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<v Speaker 3>It means to me that she was aware that he

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<v Speaker 3>was put out in the lawn and it was cold,

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01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 3>and she thought that if he wasn't dead, he was

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01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:38.119
<v Speaker 3>near death, and and was expecting for him to die

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<v Speaker 3>out in the cold for what reason. I don't know. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea to protect someone, obviously, but who

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're not going to protect Brian Higgins. I don't

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01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:56.800
<v Speaker 2>He's not a part of the family. I mean, I

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01:09:56.840 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 2>don't think they give a shit about Brian Higgins. So there,

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<v Speaker 2>and they kept going to these extraordinary links to try

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<v Speaker 2>to say that Colin was not in the house. That

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<v Speaker 2>that became a point of contention. He is not blood

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<v Speaker 2>to them. He is another dude who's in the who's

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of Brian Alberts, who works in the town.

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<v Speaker 2>He is not precious. They would never say the word

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<v Speaker 2>love and apply it, apply it to Brian Higgins, but

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01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:29.800
<v Speaker 2>they might to Colin Albert. Jess, what is your take?

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<v Speaker 2>What do those words mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, my excitement overnight is when I deep

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01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:40.119
<v Speaker 4>dive into forensics and osin and geofencing and surveillance and

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01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:44.479
<v Speaker 4>data privacy and such. I firmly believe that she the

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<v Speaker 4>tooth Google, that for sure, just another typical dumb well

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01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:56.680
<v Speaker 4>dumb alleged criminal making making a slip up mistake, thinking

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01:10:56.720 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 4>that they'd be able to cover their tracks. No matter

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01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:02.039
<v Speaker 4>what you type in your phone, anything that you turn

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01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:07.119
<v Speaker 4>your phone is registered regardless. I think that, honestly, I

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01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:09.600
<v Speaker 4>think that they were just trying to figure out when

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<v Speaker 4>that they could put him out on the lawn time wise,

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01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.119
<v Speaker 4>to see how how like how long or how long

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01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 4>it's take for his body to the body to cool down,

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<v Speaker 4>so that their story could develop develop around that.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, they're just the thing is is if

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<v Speaker 2>I have to have a reason why I want to

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01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 2>know how long it would take somebody to die in

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01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:38.680
<v Speaker 2>the cold, It's not a random search. So we have

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01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:41.079
<v Speaker 2>all this chaos going on in the house. Will is

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<v Speaker 2>alluding to that people are panicking, perhaps except Brian Albert

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01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:48.640
<v Speaker 2>because maybe he's a you know, a sociopath who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>But in that search, I'm going to conduct that search

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01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and use those words for a specific reason. I'm trying

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01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:01.119
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what that reason is. Why do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to know how long it's going to take him

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<v Speaker 2>to die in the cold. The only reason I can

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01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:09.119
<v Speaker 2>come up with is that if for some reason he survives,

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01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:13.359
<v Speaker 2>he is going to I D someone someone is fidgeting

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01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:16.920
<v Speaker 2>with paper in the background, please go to mute. If okay,

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01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.279
<v Speaker 2>not me, Jessica, put you in the We'll put you

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01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:24.840
<v Speaker 2>in the Chicago Blackhawks penalty box. Anyway. I'm just kidding, Love,

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01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding. So so if if that's if, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's the case, if he wakes up, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>I D somebody that struck him in the in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the head, someone that that made that blow

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01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.279
<v Speaker 2>that was going to kill him. Not the punches to

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01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:47.199
<v Speaker 2>his eyes, not the punches that he blocked with it

1212
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:50.560
<v Speaker 2>obviously blocked with his hands, not where he probably got

1213
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.800
<v Speaker 2>hit in the nose. He is going to tell someone

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01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:56.439
<v Speaker 2>someone struck me in the back of the head with

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01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:00.159
<v Speaker 2>an object big enough to and and hard enough at

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01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:04.199
<v Speaker 2>all that left a gash in my head. And we

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01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:07.479
<v Speaker 2>only have three choices of people that could be. That

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01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:11.720
<v Speaker 2>could be Brian, Brian A, that could be Brian h

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<v Speaker 2>or that could be Colin. And they've gone to extraordinary lengths.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if it was even if it was Brian Albert,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still gonna they're still going to collect a pension

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01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Brian Albert already is It's not that he was. I mean,

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01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.760
<v Speaker 2>he never went back to work according to McDonough after this.

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01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:34.359
<v Speaker 2>So the only one who's vulnerable who it would ruin

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01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:37.880
<v Speaker 2>his life or what the remainder of his life is Colin.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never thought a lot about Colin Albert until you

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01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:45.319
<v Speaker 2>posted those videos and then I said, oh, so he

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01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.600
<v Speaker 2>was there, and everybody keeps trying to deny that he

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01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:52.399
<v Speaker 2>was there. Why would they do that, because well, he

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01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:54.479
<v Speaker 2>would have been charged with he would have been idd

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<v Speaker 2>by John if John survived.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's sure that that's a set on theory, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a theory, a hypothesis, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm saying this. I'm

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01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:10.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to put forth a hypothesis because I know there

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01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:13.560
<v Speaker 2>has to be a motive for murder. I do not

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01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:17.199
<v Speaker 2>believe that Brian Albert and Brian Higgins set out to

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01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:20.880
<v Speaker 2>murder John O'Keeffe. I just don't believe it. There's no

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01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:24.199
<v Speaker 2>way they just wanted to beat his ass, that Brian

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01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Higgins wanted to beat his ass, and then something happened

1242
01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:31.760
<v Speaker 2>that shifted to paradigm in that damn house.

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01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I think they liked John and wanted to more or

1244
01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:43.680
<v Speaker 3>less initiate him into their little circle of grab assing

1245
01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:47.960
<v Speaker 3>and tough guyness, you know. Uh, And whatever was going on,

1246
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:55.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but something, something more than just beating

1247
01:14:55.279 --> 01:15:01.079
<v Speaker 3>his ass is there. Because they beat him today. You know,

1248
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:06.600
<v Speaker 3>they left them out on the lawn to freeze. So

1249
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:13.479
<v Speaker 3>it to me there's something more than just a hazing

1250
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 3>going on here. There's there's something. I mean, you know,

1251
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:24.079
<v Speaker 3>you consider Brian Albert, you consider Chris Albert, you consider

1252
01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:28.800
<v Speaker 3>the salaries that some of these Massachusetts State Police officers

1253
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:32.720
<v Speaker 3>are making, these Canton police officers are making. You know,

1254
01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:38.560
<v Speaker 3>there's again, man like it's it stinks, you know. So

1255
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:42.880
<v Speaker 3>the answer to ninety nine out of one hundred questions

1256
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:48.239
<v Speaker 3>is money. And when you see those very high salaries,

1257
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:53.479
<v Speaker 3>you see very little money going into methods of investigation,

1258
01:15:55.720 --> 01:16:01.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, basic preservation of evidence and handling of evidence.

1259
01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:05.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean, these things, you know, but you see, these

1260
01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:10.199
<v Speaker 3>these cops are making insane amounts of money, insane amounts

1261
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:17.760
<v Speaker 3>of money and to do what you know what I mean, right,

1262
01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:21.279
<v Speaker 3>So they're not being paid to be good cops, you know. So,

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01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:25.119
<v Speaker 3>and then you have the Alberts, Chris Albert on the

1264
01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:29.159
<v Speaker 3>select board. Uh you've got them fighting tooth and nail

1265
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:35.359
<v Speaker 3>to to against the police audit. They're scared.

1266
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:40.199
<v Speaker 3>So people's pockets are getting lined here. The question is

1268
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:43.319
<v Speaker 3>did that have something to do with John O'Keefe's death

1269
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:47.119
<v Speaker 3>and cover up? Uh? And And that makes sense to

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01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:51.720
<v Speaker 3>me because again, why wouldn't anybody just help them? Why

1271
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:54.680
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't they just say, hey, you know, we were screwing

1272
01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:57.880
<v Speaker 3>around and he fell, and you know what I mean.

1273
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I've been saying those for weeks. Will That is exactly

1274
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:03.359
<v Speaker 2>what I've been saying for weeks. And it's not until

1275
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I saw your videos that I came up with a reason.

1276
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Why didn't you that?

1277
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.960
<v Speaker 3>What I get out of those videos is is that

1278
01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:17.560
<v Speaker 3>John O'Keefe was in the house. I'm not focused so

1279
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:22.239
<v Speaker 3>much on Colin and his name being mentioned by KP

1280
01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:28.600
<v Speaker 3>and by uh By or was it was it Ali Ali?

1281
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:33.399
<v Speaker 2>I believe I believe it wasn't Alan McCabe the one

1282
01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:36.840
<v Speaker 2>that came and picked him up. Maybe I'm wrong. Somebody

1283
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:38.000
<v Speaker 2>correct me in the chat if.

1284
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what, I'm confused.

1285
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:43.520
<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you why. The thing about the initiative,

1286
01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:49.880
<v Speaker 2>there's one there's one sort of outlier here will And

1287
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:54.119
<v Speaker 2>is this if you've ever been that guy that really

1288
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:58.560
<v Speaker 2>wanted a girl, this beautiful girl, and somebody else had

1289
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:01.800
<v Speaker 2>that girl when people are out and they get drunk

1290
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.800
<v Speaker 2>and they see that girl and they're being ignored, and

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01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:09.279
<v Speaker 2>she's with another guy, and he's the sort of tall, handsome,

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01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:15.560
<v Speaker 2>not fat guy that John O'Keefe was that would have

1293
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:20.319
<v Speaker 2>pissed off and really irritated Brian Higgins. I don't think

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01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:22.199
<v Speaker 2>that reason's.

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01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.159
<v Speaker 3>Got baby dick energy written all over him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and for that yeah, and for that reason, I

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01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:31.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think he was trying They were trying to and

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01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:34.159
<v Speaker 2>he initiate him into a friendship or some sort of

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01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:38.319
<v Speaker 2>a triumvirate of Canton idiots that they saw himself as.

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01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:40.920
<v Speaker 2>That's why I don't think that I think he wanted

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01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:42.199
<v Speaker 2>to beat his ass.

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01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Right I I that's just one thing that I speculate on.

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01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:48.520
<v Speaker 3>But because only because Chris Albert and Brian Albert seem

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01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:54.640
<v Speaker 3>to like him. So there's that. But uh, and Chris Albert,

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01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:57.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Chris Albert liked him, liked him. He just.

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01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Those photos in his yard right where he would have

1307
01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:04.680
<v Speaker 2>with him and say, oh look we have the beer

1308
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:07.600
<v Speaker 2>cans and we're drinking in your yard. And I think.

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01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:13.159
<v Speaker 3>He rather but he rasked him for being the get

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01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:15.840
<v Speaker 3>off my lawn guy. You know, like if he was

1311
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:17.600
<v Speaker 3>just more laid back, he'd be cool, you know what

1312
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:19.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean. That's what I feel. I feel like Chris

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01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:21.479
<v Speaker 3>Albert feels it felt about Don O'Keefe.

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01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, as an older dude, there is nothing in the

1315
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:28.680
<v Speaker 2>world more annoying. And I don't know if you've ever

1316
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.800
<v Speaker 2>had this happen as an adult, of where a high

1317
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 2>school kid comes up and talks shit to you. And

1318
01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:41.800
<v Speaker 2>it's clear from from the testimony that Colin Albert would

1319
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:46.600
<v Speaker 2>talk shit at at John O'Keefe, and John O'Keeffe probably

1320
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:49.600
<v Speaker 2>did not like him, thought he was a smart mouth kid.

1321
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.039
<v Speaker 2>He talked to Chris Albert about it, who just co

1322
01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:57.000
<v Speaker 2>opted and blew it off. And it is really really

1323
01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:01.199
<v Speaker 2>super annoying when a kid does that. And so I

1324
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:06.880
<v Speaker 2>think there was beef between John and between Colin Albert.

1325
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:10.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's enough that Colin Albert would necessarily

1326
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:12.439
<v Speaker 2>want to kill him. I think that when you have

1327
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:15.680
<v Speaker 2>a drunk kid and there's a fight and him, you know,

1328
01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:17.439
<v Speaker 2>he tried to go to great lengths to say that

1329
01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:20.479
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a fighter, and we found out how ridiculous

1330
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:24.239
<v Speaker 2>that was. It didn't take Turtle Boy, you know, ten

1331
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:28.920
<v Speaker 2>minutes to find videos of him fighting and that he's

1332
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a bully over at Kent in high school. And so

1333
01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:36.640
<v Speaker 2>it's looked like it looks like that something like that happened,

1334
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:41.119
<v Speaker 2>because why else if John had just here's the thing,

1335
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:43.720
<v Speaker 2>and this I want to say this to you guys

1336
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:48.760
<v Speaker 2>in the chat. If this was an accident and and Brian,

1337
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:51.600
<v Speaker 2>let's say Brian Higgins punched him in the face and

1338
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:55.239
<v Speaker 2>he fell, and he and you know the cradles, the

1339
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:58.479
<v Speaker 2>metal cradles on a squad rack that hold the bar

1340
01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:02.079
<v Speaker 2>that you you know, you you cradle bar. If you

1341
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.680
<v Speaker 2>fell and hit your head on those metal cradles, you

1342
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:08.800
<v Speaker 2>could get a gash like that. You could have a gash.

1343
01:21:08.920 --> 01:21:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I would be surprised if you didn't, no.

1344
01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Question, no question, that you could have a gash like that.

1345
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.199
<v Speaker 2>So now let's say that that's what happened to John.

1346
01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:22.920
<v Speaker 2>They have no no reason not to call nine to

1347
01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:27.439
<v Speaker 2>one one and save his life. We have to have

1348
01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:32.079
<v Speaker 2>a motive that they didn't want him to survives.

1349
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Why I go in to La La Land of money

1350
01:21:35.880 --> 01:21:38.920
<v Speaker 3>that I have no idea that's why I go there

1351
01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:41.960
<v Speaker 3>because it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to

1352
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:45.279
<v Speaker 3>me that they would just that because obviously the motive

1353
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:47.079
<v Speaker 3>was to kill him. They wanted to kill him.

1354
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Obviously they did well, I don't want to say they

1355
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:52.520
<v Speaker 2>wanted to wanted to die.

1356
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:58.720
<v Speaker 3>They counted on him dying absolutely, so, so I don't.

1357
01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:03.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, my whole thing is I I feel

1358
01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:11.319
<v Speaker 3>as though right now Karen Reid is absolutely innocent and

1359
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:17.439
<v Speaker 3>and it's just one step towards it's just one step

1360
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:21.880
<v Speaker 3>towards getting John O'Keefe justice ultimately, because I I I

1361
01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:26.039
<v Speaker 3>would love to know who is responsible for his death. Actually,

1362
01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:30.880
<v Speaker 3>but right now it's just it's it's amazing to me

1363
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:34.159
<v Speaker 3>that there are actually people that still believe that she's guilty.

1364
01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:35.600
<v Speaker 3>It's it's mind blowing to me.

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01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Actually, it's there's not a piece of there isn't a

1366
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>piece of organic evidence. I see you here, Shila, We'll

1367
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:46.079
<v Speaker 2>get you in there and it. Julie, if you star

1368
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:49.239
<v Speaker 2>some of these, we'll go through them here in a

1369
01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:55.520
<v Speaker 2>couple of minutes. There is no organic evidence that points

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01:22:55.560 --> 01:22:59.039
<v Speaker 2>to her her guilt other than I hit him. I

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01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.119
<v Speaker 2>hit him, and I don't even think that's organic. I

1372
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:02.520
<v Speaker 2>think that was made up.

1373
01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:06.159
<v Speaker 3>So I don't even since there's anything that's that's that

1374
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:09.560
<v Speaker 3>could be counted as circumstantial, that's strong enough to be

1375
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:16.720
<v Speaker 3>considered evidence. I I I everything that there's nothing but doubt.

1376
01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Everything that the prosecution claims to be evident is riddled

1377
01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:22.840
<v Speaker 3>with doubt.

1378
01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's it's all synthetic, planted, made up. Everything

1379
01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:32.640
<v Speaker 2>had to be. And I've said this on Twitter, So

1380
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.840
<v Speaker 2>forgive me, those of you who read my tweets. Everything

1381
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>that points to gen to Karen's guilt is all manufactured, synthetic,

1382
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:44.399
<v Speaker 2>planted evidence.

1383
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:50.880
<v Speaker 4>With no evidence. No, not custody evans, chain of chain

1384
01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:56.600
<v Speaker 4>of custody, A custody these people, And I was worry.

1385
01:23:56.840 --> 01:24:00.439
<v Speaker 3>Come on, and I was on Melanie Little's channel recently.

1386
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:06.960
<v Speaker 3>We discussed we discussed, uh, what was it? The uh

1387
01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:10.840
<v Speaker 3>the Brian Walsh case. We went over the details in that,

1388
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:16.880
<v Speaker 3>and and we went over Michael Procter's report, his request

1389
01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:21.520
<v Speaker 3>for a search warrant, and you can see that Michael

1390
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:26.079
<v Speaker 3>Procter is perfectly capable of conducting a very professional and

1391
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:30.560
<v Speaker 3>thorough investigation. The case, the case against Brian Walsh's air

1392
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:37.119
<v Speaker 3>tight so and and Michael Proctor did some really impressive,

1393
01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:41.199
<v Speaker 3>good thorough police work. So we know it's not negligence.

1394
01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:44.239
<v Speaker 3>We know that these just aren't Barny Fife dumb cops

1395
01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:51.520
<v Speaker 3>out there in Massachusetts. These are well trained, seasoned investigators

1396
01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:56.239
<v Speaker 3>and they didn't apply any of this when it came

1397
01:24:56.359 --> 01:25:00.319
<v Speaker 3>to right. It has to be on purpose, has to

1398
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:03.439
<v Speaker 3>be because there's too much. If it was just one

1399
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:06.359
<v Speaker 3>slip up, I'd say, okay, well even cops, good cops,

1400
01:25:06.359 --> 01:25:11.319
<v Speaker 3>make mistakes sometimes. But this is not Yeah, this investigation

1401
01:25:12.079 --> 01:25:16.800
<v Speaker 3>everything it is the It is the the the contrast,

1402
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:21.319
<v Speaker 3>the direct contrast to the Brian Walsh investigation, same investigators,

1403
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:27.199
<v Speaker 3>but absolute contrast to the Brian Walsh investigation, and that

1404
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:28.800
<v Speaker 3>screams corruption.

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01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:32.760
<v Speaker 4>I want to know what Jen McCabe has on everybody,

1406
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:37.520
<v Speaker 4>because the amount of bending over backwards and forwards and

1407
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:40.279
<v Speaker 4>all the other dances that they do for her to

1408
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:44.039
<v Speaker 4>protect her, I'm like, what does she have on What

1409
01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:45.359
<v Speaker 4>does she have on everybody?

1410
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Because I think they all have something on each other.

1411
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:53.039
<v Speaker 3>My opinion on that is is that they're all people

1412
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:55.319
<v Speaker 3>are like people keep saying, well, somebody would have talked

1413
01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:57.239
<v Speaker 3>by now if there was a conspiracy, somebody would have

1414
01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.560
<v Speaker 3>ratted by Now. First of all, we're talking about busians.

1415
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:04.760
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't happen. Second of all, second of all, they

1416
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:08.399
<v Speaker 3>all have something to lose. They're all they can all

1417
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.359
<v Speaker 3>be implicated in some ways, So they're they're all looking

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01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:13.720
<v Speaker 3>out for themselves. They're gonna keep their mouth shuts to

1419
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:17.039
<v Speaker 3>cover each and every one of their own asses. So

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01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:20.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear this. Oh well, somebody would

1421
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:22.199
<v Speaker 3>have talked about now know they wouldn't have Oh well.

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01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I think the person who explained this the best, Jess,

1423
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:29.520
<v Speaker 2>getting to your point was And by the way, shout

1424
01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:32.680
<v Speaker 2>out to Mike Crawford. Mike Crawford is battling COVID, so

1425
01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:36.279
<v Speaker 2>he canceled his shows this weekend. We love you, Mike,

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01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and we hope. Yeah. Shout out to Mike and your

1427
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:48.439
<v Speaker 2>boy man. Okay, here's the thing. Jess Shannon McMahon, former prosecutor.

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01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Former I don't know if she was a DA or

1429
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:54.840
<v Speaker 2>assistant DA from Plymouth or something. She ran for major

1430
01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:59.720
<v Speaker 2>office in or she ran for district attorney in Plymouth.

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01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:04.600
<v Speaker 2>She said the way a conspiracy like this happens is

1432
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>not a bunch of people sitting around a table like

1433
01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:11.439
<v Speaker 2>with Doctor Evil stroking a cat and all that stuff.

1434
01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:16.520
<v Speaker 2>What happens is it starts with one thing, an incident happens.

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01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And I said this on the last show, will I said,

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01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the moment that a investigating officer in charge stood on

1437
01:27:28.119 --> 01:27:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the lawn of Brian Albert, the investigation began. The moment

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01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>that that officer, whether it was an MSP officer or

1439
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:43.319
<v Speaker 2>initially the Canton PD officers, the moment that they decided

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01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>not to knock on Brian Albert's door, the investigation was

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01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:53.680
<v Speaker 2>over because at that moment they decided that this has

1442
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:55.199
<v Speaker 2>to go a certain way.

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01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Now you have to start with little things and their

1445
01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.800
<v Speaker 2>concentric circles. We start with a small circle and it

1446
01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:09.159
<v Speaker 2>gets larger and larger and larger. And at first we

1447
01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:12.239
<v Speaker 2>got to okay, what happened? All right? Someone here says

1448
01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Jen McCabe calls back a couple hours later and says, oh,

1449
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I just had I just had a memory. I just

1450
01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:21.159
<v Speaker 2>remembered that I heard Karen say I did it. And

1451
01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:24.760
<v Speaker 2>then she calls you know, then the the ambulance folks say,

1452
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:26.159
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I heard her say I did it, I

1453
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>did it, I did it. Whatever, now they have to

1454
01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>go into theory. She said her tail light was cracked.

1455
01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:35.039
<v Speaker 2>So then what's his name has to go get a warrant.

1456
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:38.039
<v Speaker 2>And Peter Murphy told us he could have gotten a

1457
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.239
<v Speaker 2>warrant to go in Brian Albert's house had it been

1458
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Brian Smith in thirty to forty five minutes. He could

1459
01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:46.760
<v Speaker 2>have gotten a judge with a dead Postum police officer.

1460
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>He could have got a search warrant for that house

1461
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:53.600
<v Speaker 2>in thirty forty five minutes. Sure that notwithstanding, So now

1462
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:55.159
<v Speaker 2>we got to go get her car. Now we have

1463
01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the cracked tail light. Okay, what do we have to do.

1464
01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>The first thing is we have to not take a

1465
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:04.479
<v Speaker 2>photo of the car, which Bedro said on Kim's show

1466
01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.479
<v Speaker 2>last night. They had an amazing episode two or almost

1467
01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>three hours of Kim and Better. He said, how that

1468
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:14.399
<v Speaker 2>the most basic thing is when you go and seize

1469
01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the vehicle, you take photos of the vehicle and the

1470
01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:20.439
<v Speaker 2>tail light. Well, you can't do that because if you do,

1471
01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>you'd be providing evidence to the defense. So you can't

1472
01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:26.079
<v Speaker 2>do that. Then you have to get it. You have

1473
01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to pass two Massachusetts Police sally Ports and go to

1474
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>the Canton sally Port. Then we can smash the tail

1475
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>light and into forty five pieces.

1476
01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:41.479
<v Speaker 3>So then carying up the frame job, in my opinion,

1477
01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:46.439
<v Speaker 3>was absolutely designed to get Karen Reid. Was designed around

1478
01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:49.399
<v Speaker 3>the idea that Karen Reid would take a plea. So

1479
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:52.439
<v Speaker 3>that's why it was done so lazily. That's why it

1480
01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:55.840
<v Speaker 3>was done because you know, they never expected it to

1481
01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:57.880
<v Speaker 3>get to trial to where they'd have to explain the

1482
01:29:58.279 --> 01:30:02.319
<v Speaker 3>evidence how they got it. You know, they never thought

1483
01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:05.680
<v Speaker 3>that they'd get to that point. And so that's why

1484
01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:08.560
<v Speaker 3>it's so sloppy in my opinion, because again, now we

1485
01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:12.600
<v Speaker 3>know for a fact that these people know how to

1486
01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:17.079
<v Speaker 3>conduct the thorough investigation. We know that they do so,

1487
01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:21.279
<v Speaker 3>so based on that, you know, I mean, if they

1488
01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:23.960
<v Speaker 3>expected it to go to trial, we'd know that they'd

1489
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:27.119
<v Speaker 3>probably be capable of doing a better job framing an

1490
01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:32.319
<v Speaker 3>innocent one too. Everything screams that they were that that there,

1491
01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Every every action that they did that that they performed

1492
01:30:37.239 --> 01:30:42.079
<v Speaker 3>here in this investigation dictates to me that it was around.

1493
01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:45.319
<v Speaker 3>It was surrounding the idea that Karen Reid was would

1494
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:47.600
<v Speaker 3>take a plea. They are well.

1495
01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:51.359
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, jail Karen read people, they didn't

1496
01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:55.239
<v Speaker 2>find one piece of tail light on the lawn, the

1497
01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:59.439
<v Speaker 2>investigating officers from Kenton, not one, not one piece of

1498
01:30:59.479 --> 01:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>tail light.

1499
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:03.640
<v Speaker 4>I just want to know who confirmed that that I

1500
01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:07.279
<v Speaker 4>had Alexis and I had one, well, a different model.

1501
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:10.399
<v Speaker 4>But Lexus is incredibly and I'm sure you guys have

1502
01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:14.439
<v Speaker 4>heard this on this kid on Nurse Kim's page. Lexus

1503
01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:19.319
<v Speaker 4>is incredibly safety conscientious with their part with their vehicle parts.

1504
01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:22.640
<v Speaker 4>For instance, they do not put they like most you know,

1505
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:28.760
<v Speaker 4>most like driver or back sorry, you know, hands free

1506
01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:30.520
<v Speaker 4>parking and all that other jazz.

1507
01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>They let other they.

1508
01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Let basically when it comes out, they'll let that technology

1509
01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:40.880
<v Speaker 4>go for a year on other on other vehicles and

1510
01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:43.199
<v Speaker 4>put in toyotas and things like that to make sure

1511
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:46.880
<v Speaker 4>all the kings are worked out before they put the

1512
01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:52.720
<v Speaker 4>technology into their vehicles. No, no one confirmed that that

1513
01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:59.119
<v Speaker 4>that tail light was a Lexis O part. Nobody from

1514
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:04.000
<v Speaker 4>what from what stand And yeah, that's just one that's

1515
01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:07.439
<v Speaker 4>one thing that's just amazing that nobody asked. I mean,

1516
01:32:07.479 --> 01:32:10.239
<v Speaker 4>who who's said who verified that it was an act

1517
01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:15.479
<v Speaker 4>that Lexus heart. I mean, does anybody know.

1518
01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I I don't know.

1519
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

1520
01:32:19.399 --> 01:32:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think that that that material uh if

1521
01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:26.319
<v Speaker 2>when smashed, I think they did. They did the test.

1522
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I think when they do the test again, I think

1523
01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:30.640
<v Speaker 2>what they're going to do, Jess, is they're going to

1524
01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:35.319
<v Speaker 2>get If you've seen on those shows like those, it's

1525
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>a forged in fire where they have bodies and they'll

1526
01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:41.159
<v Speaker 2>go and make swords and stuff and they'll strike these

1527
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>bodies and it's all realistic, like it has internal organs.

1528
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>They need to get one of those, put it in

1529
01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:51.600
<v Speaker 2>a parking lot, get Alexis four seventy or four sixty,

1530
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, and then back it up at twenty

1531
01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:56.800
<v Speaker 2>four miles an hour and hit it. Because I also

1532
01:32:56.880 --> 01:33:00.479
<v Speaker 2>don't believe the cocktail glass was with John. I don't believe. Well.

1533
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:04.079
<v Speaker 3>I think the ACA guys and OURCA guys did their

1534
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:08.319
<v Speaker 3>own you know, recreations and everything, and you know, the

1535
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:10.640
<v Speaker 3>jury just didn't. It just went right over their heads

1536
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:14.560
<v Speaker 3>because they assumed they were hired by the defense. Yes, so,

1537
01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:19.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but we know the nature of the ARCA

1538
01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:22.079
<v Speaker 3>experts and why they did conducted these things.

1539
01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:25.319
<v Speaker 4>And don't get me start with and sorry.

1540
01:33:25.319 --> 01:33:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm going to tell you what I was

1541
01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:31.840
<v Speaker 2>going to tell you on our on our private uh

1542
01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>chat will that I didn't get to tell you is

1543
01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>that there is a there and Julie dis will resonate

1544
01:33:37.640 --> 01:33:42.840
<v Speaker 2>with Julie our chat moderator in there. Thank you, Julie, definitely,

1545
01:33:42.840 --> 01:33:47.199
<v Speaker 2>thank you Julie. You've had you know, she's just so smart.

1546
01:33:47.439 --> 01:33:50.960
<v Speaker 2>There isn't the analogous person's lou Elizondo. The former Pentagon

1547
01:33:51.039 --> 01:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>GS fifteen is basically Sean McDonough, and then Plevin is

1548
01:33:54.640 --> 01:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>basically this former getting a very bright video game creator

1549
01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>uh British man who lives in California out in Silicon

1550
01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Valley named Mick West. He's the number one debunker in

1551
01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:10.279
<v Speaker 2>the UFO world. But what I do as far as

1552
01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:13.039
<v Speaker 2>those guys is when they say, and we'll can we'll

1553
01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:15.760
<v Speaker 2>get this Christine startup because we're gonna go to questions

1554
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:20.079
<v Speaker 2>after this, is that if I were Seawan and he's

1555
01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:23.399
<v Speaker 2>developed an amazing audience. I mean, he's probably well over

1556
01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:30.439
<v Speaker 2>thirty five thousand followers after after the last time I looked,

1557
01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:33.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't respond to them. When when when people have

1558
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:36.520
<v Speaker 2>come after calling all beings our UFO bigfoot show and

1559
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:40.399
<v Speaker 2>a paranormal show, and they have said stuff. I what

1560
01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:43.479
<v Speaker 2>they want is my attention. They want me to say

1561
01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>something to let them know that I care what they say.

1562
01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:51.600
<v Speaker 2>So when Kevin, the fact that they can infer if

1563
01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I respond to their tweet, they can at least infer

1564
01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I care what they said if I mute or block them,

1565
01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:00.720
<v Speaker 2>and they or even if I just mute them and

1566
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't block them. So because if I block them,

1567
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>they know they're blocked. Right, they can tweet and tweet

1568
01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:10.439
<v Speaker 2>and tweet DJ calling all beings. You guys are grifters.

1569
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>You guys are frauds. And if I don't respond to them,

1570
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>it pisces them off because they can't tell that I care.

1571
01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:23.319
<v Speaker 2>And if I respond to them, they know I care

1572
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>and they know I play. Now I'm giving them the

1573
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:30.279
<v Speaker 2>benefit of my platform and letting all of my viewers

1574
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:34.079
<v Speaker 2>and followers see what they said. Instead, as far as

1575
01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned, Kevin, they don't exist. They don't exist. They

1576
01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:41.720
<v Speaker 2>could say, DJ is you could fill in the blank

1577
01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:44.760
<v Speaker 2>after that. I'm not even gonna respond to them.

1578
01:35:45.279 --> 01:35:48.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my only thing is that I DJ. I don't

1579
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:50.920
<v Speaker 4>know if I told you this when I got to Afghanistan,

1580
01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:55.079
<v Speaker 4>there were This is my connection with the ARCA. So

1581
01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:58.560
<v Speaker 4>when I got to Afghanistan, we had three Air Force

1582
01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:01.760
<v Speaker 4>EOD techts that burn alive in a in an m

1583
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.239
<v Speaker 4>wrap that did not had not been fit out with

1584
01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:08.800
<v Speaker 4>ARCA technology was far the seatbelt and everything else and

1585
01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:13.640
<v Speaker 4>once literally I'm not joking, probably probably within not even

1586
01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:16.079
<v Speaker 4>a few weeks of the ARCA technology and things like

1587
01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:19.720
<v Speaker 4>that had gone and gotten into the in wraps and

1588
01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:20.239
<v Speaker 4>I was in.

1589
01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I was in one that.

1590
01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Hit hit an explosion, and I'm alive because of that technology.

1591
01:36:28.399 --> 01:36:31.680
<v Speaker 4>So that's why I'm so upset about people are like,

1592
01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:33.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, oh, you know, they just.

1593
01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Run their mouths. They don't know what they're talking about.

1594
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:36.239
<v Speaker 2>They have no.

1595
01:36:36.159 --> 01:36:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Clue, and it's like, but then again, you're right, I

1596
01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:39.640
<v Speaker 4>mean I.

1597
01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't I so if if if if we go

1598
01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:48.319
<v Speaker 2>from zero to to a hundred of care factors, So like,

1599
01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:51.199
<v Speaker 2>I care what all my friends say, all these people here,

1600
01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I care, Like I'm in I'm I'm at that hundred level.

1601
01:36:54.119 --> 01:36:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Mike and Glare and all of you guys. Right when

1602
01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.399
<v Speaker 2>when you start getting to like a KP or you

1603
01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:03.720
<v Speaker 2>get to a Plevin, you see the number zero and

1604
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't. There's no negative numbers after that, so I'm

1605
01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:10.640
<v Speaker 2>at zero. I can't. I would like to care less,

1606
01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:15.359
<v Speaker 2>but unable to care less than zero of what they think.

1607
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:18.399
<v Speaker 2>So this is the reason why. So that's my approach.

1608
01:37:18.439 --> 01:37:22.279
<v Speaker 2>But that notwithstanding, let's go to questions. This is where

1609
01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:26.079
<v Speaker 2>you all can find Glaire. Julie put it in the chat.

1610
01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>If you click on that link, it will take you

1611
01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:30.840
<v Speaker 2>to his page. You're gonna see that he's a lot

1612
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:33.039
<v Speaker 2>sexier and better looking than me, and then hit the

1613
01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:33.800
<v Speaker 2>subscribe button.

1614
01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Please all that man, All right.

1615
01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Now, let's get to the stat Oh. Thank First of all,

1616
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:44.359
<v Speaker 2>thank you team Britney. What's up? Thank you home girl,

1617
01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Hey GiB Less. Awesome Glaire your most important guest ever.

1618
01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:53.079
<v Speaker 2>And he doesn't speculate on rumor? Well, okay, I do.

1619
01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm no, I mean no, it's it's I don't want

1620
01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>to use the words speculating, Brittany. I'm gonna say hypothesizing,

1621
01:38:01.319 --> 01:38:03.760
<v Speaker 2>because we have to just even what the police do

1622
01:38:04.199 --> 01:38:07.039
<v Speaker 2>if they were actually investigating this, which obviously they're not,

1623
01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:10.199
<v Speaker 2>but if they were, they would be trying to find

1624
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:13.760
<v Speaker 2>a motive for why someone in the house did that,

1625
01:38:14.319 --> 01:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>and and that's something that we have to do because

1626
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:19.520
<v Speaker 2>we have to establish why you would let a fellow

1627
01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:22.119
<v Speaker 2>officer die. And it's not going to be because Brian

1628
01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Higgins didn't like him and wanted to fight him. I mean,

1629
01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:27.439
<v Speaker 2>that's not that's not a motive for murder, A motive

1630
01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>for murder. No, it's just not so I never really,

1631
01:38:33.279 --> 01:38:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I've not really thought about Colin Albert very much since

1632
01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:42.159
<v Speaker 2>I've been following or covering this case. But anyway, thank

1633
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>you very much for the five. I greatly appreciate that.

1634
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:46.239
<v Speaker 2>All right.

1635
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Uh so, she's a mod for me and in Melanie

1636
01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Little as well.

1637
01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Dude, and you and Melanie got such a great vibe. Man,

1638
01:38:54.439 --> 01:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I love.

1639
01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:01.960
<v Speaker 3>He's a mod for w f l A News. Oh really, dude, Yeah,

1640
01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the dude that looks like Jeff Goldblum kind of Oh really,

1641
01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:09.640
<v Speaker 3>I love that guy. I forget his name, but yeah,

1642
01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:11.720
<v Speaker 3>he's awesome. But she's a mode for him too.

1643
01:39:12.520 --> 01:39:14.279
<v Speaker 2>W f l A News.

1644
01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:21.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, uh Bruno, oh I think his name is Bruno.

1645
01:39:21.680 --> 01:39:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Is JB? Yeah? Hey JB? Yeah, you got to say

1646
01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:33.239
<v Speaker 3>hey JB. Yeah. Yeah.

1647
01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:36.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, so let's get this one in some reality checks.

1648
01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Says but the rumor has it that his buddy Rick

1649
01:39:39.960 --> 01:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>uh said he saw John go in the house. So

1650
01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I kind of think that because his ex girlfriend and

1651
01:39:45.479 --> 01:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Rick were gonna say that they didn't see him in

1652
01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:52.039
<v Speaker 2>the car. Mm hmm yeah, I mean, I.

1653
01:39:52.039 --> 01:39:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Don't speculate on rumor. Man I can't do it.

1654
01:39:56.079 --> 01:40:00.479
<v Speaker 2>He went in the house. Okay, So, Mantha, do you

1655
01:40:00.520 --> 01:40:06.520
<v Speaker 2>want to read this one? Glare you want me.

1656
01:40:06.479 --> 01:40:11.239
<v Speaker 3>To read it? Brian Albert killed John o'keeff, Higgins pulled

1657
01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:15.079
<v Speaker 3>dog off of John O'Keeffe's arm. Higgins ex told the

1658
01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Feds he called her that am crying, saying he didn't

1659
01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:22.199
<v Speaker 3>know why. Brian Albert took it too far and pulled

1660
01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:26.960
<v Speaker 3>the dog off John O'Keeffe. Brian Albert and Higgins out

1661
01:40:27.279 --> 01:40:31.279
<v Speaker 3>John O'Keefe out by flag, left him out. Okay, where

1662
01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:34.159
<v Speaker 3>did you get that information? Because that's very, very detailed

1663
01:40:34.359 --> 01:40:38.239
<v Speaker 3>and very specific. I mean, if that's true, you cracked

1664
01:40:38.239 --> 01:40:42.119
<v Speaker 3>the case. So is that any of that actually based

1665
01:40:42.159 --> 01:40:43.039
<v Speaker 3>on fact or?

1666
01:40:44.119 --> 01:40:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Also? Also, Samantha, there was one thing we have not

1667
01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:52.119
<v Speaker 2>mentioned this evening. Where's the injuries on Colin Albert's hand

1668
01:40:53.079 --> 01:40:55.279
<v Speaker 2>that he claimed was him trying to break his fall

1669
01:40:55.319 --> 01:41:01.560
<v Speaker 2>with his knuckles. So yeah, and he's say right, and

1670
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:04.159
<v Speaker 2>he's never been in fight. Everything they say is just

1671
01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>so stupid, right.

1672
01:41:06.239 --> 01:41:08.520
<v Speaker 3>That's the whole thing is that everybody up there lied

1673
01:41:08.920 --> 01:41:11.840
<v Speaker 3>on the stand. I don't know, I don't know what happened,

1674
01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:16.760
<v Speaker 3>but everyone lied like there's First of all, I'm gonna

1675
01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:20.840
<v Speaker 3>say this, I saw I've been to thirty four fair

1676
01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:23.039
<v Speaker 3>of you. I saw the lawn with my own eyes.

1677
01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:28.359
<v Speaker 3>There is absolutely no way that all of those people

1678
01:41:28.439 --> 01:41:30.920
<v Speaker 3>walked out the front of that house, went to the driveway,

1679
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:32.760
<v Speaker 3>got in their cars and did not see John'll keep

1680
01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:33.800
<v Speaker 3>lying in that lot.

1681
01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:37.039
<v Speaker 4>I think Julianna and Nagels saw her own reflection in

1682
01:41:37.079 --> 01:41:38.039
<v Speaker 4>the window of the blog.

1683
01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna. I think I'm gonna drive by there myself, because,

1684
01:41:43.720 --> 01:41:46.159
<v Speaker 2>believe it or not, I've roped in. One of my

1685
01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:50.640
<v Speaker 2>friends from the Bigfoot community, Tim Halleran, was just in

1686
01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Canton to have a meeting and he stayed overnight and

1687
01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>he called me and said, hey, you know, DJ, you

1688
01:41:56.520 --> 01:41:58.720
<v Speaker 2>know I'm in Canton. I'm gonna and he went by

1689
01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the house and he said, yeah, this same thing. It

1690
01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>looks really it doesn't look like when you guys look

1691
01:42:03.039 --> 01:42:06.399
<v Speaker 2>at Turtle Boy's background. The front yard looks really huge

1692
01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:10.079
<v Speaker 2>in Turtle Boys background, but everyone that's driven by said

1693
01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it's very small.

1694
01:42:11.159 --> 01:42:13.319
<v Speaker 4>Could have all those cars fit fit?

1695
01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh, six cars will fit in that driveway? Okay, so

1696
01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a sixth car. It's it's been widened

1697
01:42:20.359 --> 01:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>probably since it's wider than the garage. The driveway is

1698
01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:27.319
<v Speaker 2>all right. Uh, daniel Alexander wants you to wave U

1699
01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>would you do that? Claire for Danielle.

1700
01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:34.720
<v Speaker 3>There you go. Danielle got a lot of fans. Man.

1701
01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh, let's see Phoebe MC to the deal. DOUBLEG says,

1702
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:43.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they necessarily have covered for Higgey, but

1703
01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:46.039
<v Speaker 2>no one has overtly thrown him under the bus. It

1704
01:42:46.119 --> 01:42:49.720
<v Speaker 2>may come to that when push comes to shove, but

1705
01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:53.000
<v Speaker 2>but thus so far they've let it just play out. Well, yeah,

1706
01:42:53.039 --> 01:42:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean you don't have to do anything right now.

1707
01:42:55.039 --> 01:42:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing. They're not under the gun,

1708
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:01.239
<v Speaker 2>there's no pressure on them. What do they need to do? Uh?

1709
01:43:01.359 --> 01:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Mellow's arrest. Warrens is protecting Colin Hill.

1710
01:43:06.359 --> 01:43:10.359
<v Speaker 3>They're definitely protecting Colin. That's something for sure. But I'm saying,

1711
01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:14.960
<v Speaker 3>my whole thing is you know, I'm not convinced that

1712
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:18.199
<v Speaker 3>they're protecting him because he murdered John O'Keefe. I'm saying

1713
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:20.920
<v Speaker 3>that they're protecting him because he's family and he's the

1714
01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>baby of the family. He's Chris Albert's son, he's Brian

1715
01:43:24.039 --> 01:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Albert's nephew, and why wouldn't they protect him. Seems like

1716
01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:29.920
<v Speaker 3>a very pat knit, protective family.

1717
01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:32.479
<v Speaker 2>So okay, let's let let me let's say it like this,

1718
01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:36.520
<v Speaker 2>will did they have to protect Juliana Nagel from from

1719
01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:41.159
<v Speaker 2>prosecution here or from well?

1720
01:43:41.239 --> 01:43:44.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know, you know, I mean again,

1721
01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Julianna Nagel talking about seeing a black blob laying there

1722
01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:52.119
<v Speaker 3>and not saying anything is not a believable story. So

1723
01:43:52.199 --> 01:43:55.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm I absolutely feel that he's absolutely aware of what

1724
01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:59.399
<v Speaker 3>happened in that house, and she's covering for somebody because she, again,

1725
01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:03.399
<v Speaker 3>could would be held accountable. She's a she's an EMT.

1726
01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:08.600
<v Speaker 3>She's a nurse, right, Yeah, she's an EMT. So why

1727
01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:12.720
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't she help him? Why wouldn't her instincts kick an

1728
01:44:12.760 --> 01:44:15.479
<v Speaker 3>and go? Is that somebody in the lawn stop the car?

1729
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:17.399
<v Speaker 3>Hold on? I just got to make sure, you know,

1730
01:44:17.720 --> 01:44:18.880
<v Speaker 3>So I would do that.

1731
01:44:19.560 --> 01:44:23.880
<v Speaker 2>So let's let's let's turn it to another person, Carrie Roberts.

1732
01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Is anybody trying to cover for Carry Roberts.

1733
01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:27.920
<v Speaker 4>The Pick three girl?

1734
01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter what name I say. The point, the

1735
01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:36.239
<v Speaker 2>point I'm trying to get at is obviously something happened

1736
01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:39.479
<v Speaker 2>there that probably scared the ship out of everybody in

1737
01:44:39.520 --> 01:44:41.720
<v Speaker 2>the house that knew about it, even though it happened

1738
01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:44.960
<v Speaker 2>in the basement, and everybody's trying to cover for this

1739
01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:48.800
<v Speaker 2>one kid, to include the injuries on his knuckles. So

1740
01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>there must be a reason that they're trying to do that.

1741
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:55.079
<v Speaker 2>They're not trying to cover for all these other people,

1742
01:44:55.560 --> 01:44:58.960
<v Speaker 2>They're trying to cover for this one kid. There's got

1743
01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:01.119
<v Speaker 2>to be a reason other than that he's a juvenile.

1744
01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>That's not enough because there could have been there was

1745
01:45:03.760 --> 01:45:06.039
<v Speaker 2>other girls in the house. They're not trying to cover

1746
01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:06.760
<v Speaker 2>for them.

1747
01:45:07.079 --> 01:45:08.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, he's not a juvenile.

1748
01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Well at the time, he was eighteen. Whatever the point

1749
01:45:12.159 --> 01:45:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting at, he's a The point I'm getting at

1750
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:18.279
<v Speaker 2>is everybody's focused on protecting him for a reason, and

1751
01:45:18.319 --> 01:45:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the only reason I can think of is he and

1752
01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:24.439
<v Speaker 2>his fist would tell you the answer is he must

1753
01:45:24.439 --> 01:45:28.720
<v Speaker 2>have been involved somehow in the altercation. He had to

1754
01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>have been involved in something, otherwise they could be trying

1755
01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to protect any other person there. Oh no, No, that

1756
01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>person wasn't there.

1757
01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:39.560
<v Speaker 3>No. I believe that he was involved in the altercation

1758
01:45:39.800 --> 01:45:44.079
<v Speaker 3>for sure. Of course, that the injuries to his hand

1759
01:45:44.119 --> 01:45:47.199
<v Speaker 3>dictate this. The lies on the stand dictate this. The

1760
01:45:49.199 --> 01:45:56.159
<v Speaker 3>the beef between them dictate this. So you know, Colin

1761
01:45:56.279 --> 01:45:59.119
<v Speaker 3>was definitely in the house. John O'Keefe was definitely in

1762
01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:03.840
<v Speaker 3>the house, and everyone is lying to protect Colin for

1763
01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:07.239
<v Speaker 3>some reason. I don't know, Carrie Roberts you mentioned. I

1764
01:46:07.279 --> 01:46:11.760
<v Speaker 3>think Carrie Roberts. I don't think Carrie Roberts actually knew

1765
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:13.800
<v Speaker 3>at the time what was happening. Whether she knows now

1766
01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:17.039
<v Speaker 3>what happened or whatever, I don't know. But I think

1767
01:46:17.119 --> 01:46:19.560
<v Speaker 3>that Jen McCabe is in her ear quite a bit,

1768
01:46:20.079 --> 01:46:24.159
<v Speaker 3>and she she KP's her, you know what I mean,

1769
01:46:24.439 --> 01:46:28.239
<v Speaker 3>She puppet masters her. So so I think that car

1770
01:46:28.399 --> 01:46:32.720
<v Speaker 3>she plays off of Carrie Roberts' obsession with John and

1771
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:36.960
<v Speaker 3>jealousy over the women that he dates, because you know,

1772
01:46:37.439 --> 01:46:42.680
<v Speaker 3>she's always loved him, I guess. And I think that

1773
01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:48.399
<v Speaker 3>that Jen McCabe uses is probably using that to manipulate her.

1774
01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:51.239
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that Carrie Roberts is lying to

1775
01:46:51.319 --> 01:46:57.800
<v Speaker 3>protect anyone necessarily. I just think that she is going

1776
01:46:57.840 --> 01:47:00.359
<v Speaker 3>along with whatever narrative the McCabe's in the eyes Albert's

1777
01:47:00.399 --> 01:47:01.439
<v Speaker 3>are feeding her.

1778
01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:08.479
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Harrah has made her appearance. There you go, harah.

1779
01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:11.600
<v Speaker 2>So she's gonna end up having to get kicked out

1780
01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:14.920
<v Speaker 2>because she will eventually step on the computer or attack

1781
01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the computer. Right, So that's just Harrah Harah. Don't mess

1782
01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:20.800
<v Speaker 2>with the microphone anyway, funny.

1783
01:47:22.039 --> 01:47:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So Clover doesn't let me stretch my feet out

1784
01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:29.920
<v Speaker 3>because he likes to plan himself right under my There

1785
01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:32.000
<v Speaker 3>we go, There we go, buddy, Thank you Harah.

1786
01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:37.399
<v Speaker 2>No, uh, would you read that one just right there

1787
01:47:37.399 --> 01:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>from Scott because I know where he's going with this.

1788
01:47:40.760 --> 01:47:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Hello Scott, one of my favorite moderators.

1789
01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a mod for me too and DJ.

1790
01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:52.800
<v Speaker 4>In what states would court, sorry, in what states court

1791
01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:56.119
<v Speaker 4>would evidence quote unquote be admitted after a crime scene's

1792
01:47:56.159 --> 01:47:57.119
<v Speaker 4>release to the public.

1793
01:47:58.359 --> 01:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>So he's referring to the nine hours between when the

1794
01:48:01.960 --> 01:48:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Canton Police Department abandoned the scene eight or nine hours

1795
01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it was, and the MSP took control of

1796
01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:13.560
<v Speaker 2>that scene. So uh that that would not happen, Scott.

1797
01:48:13.640 --> 01:48:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean you you just would not do that. I

1798
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:18.880
<v Speaker 2>mean I've been watching British crime shows lately. I mean

1799
01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:22.520
<v Speaker 2>they literally have tents up, they have a suit on

1800
01:48:23.079 --> 01:48:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to where they are completely covered head to toe, so

1801
01:48:29.079 --> 01:48:32.359
<v Speaker 2>like thank you, like has Matt gloves the whole nine

1802
01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:36.479
<v Speaker 2>yards and this idiot has the gall at the at

1803
01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the Canton select Board meeting to say, oh, that was

1804
01:48:39.039 --> 01:48:42.279
<v Speaker 2>good thinking to use the solo cups and then stop

1805
01:48:42.319 --> 01:48:46.800
<v Speaker 2>and shot back. I mean, and this is what upsets Analyze.

1806
01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Analyze was she was gonna come on tonight and and

1807
01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and she said, you know, they think we're so stupid,

1808
01:48:54.319 --> 01:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the way that they speak to us. And that's what

1809
01:48:56.760 --> 01:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>really irritates her. And it really offends me as a

1810
01:48:59.720 --> 01:49:02.079
<v Speaker 2>New york That's what it is for me too.

1811
01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Like Scott. Scott is actually a retired New York City

1812
01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:07.359
<v Speaker 3>police detective.

1813
01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:08.039
<v Speaker 2>What's up?

1814
01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So he's asking because it's it's rhetorical. He knows

1815
01:49:14.279 --> 01:49:17.399
<v Speaker 3>it's a real question. He knows that's not a thing

1816
01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:20.479
<v Speaker 3>like he he he knows that you don't, you know

1817
01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:22.880
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like, there's something really shady just from

1818
01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:27.359
<v Speaker 3>the beginning about how this case was handled. There's no

1819
01:49:28.439 --> 01:49:32.720
<v Speaker 3>ever any investigation where I have read reports for uh,

1820
01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:36.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, probably probable cause affict. David's nothing like that

1821
01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:41.039
<v Speaker 3>where I have seen that the scene wasn't secured immediately

1822
01:49:41.239 --> 01:49:45.520
<v Speaker 3>and and and I mean held down tight, you know,

1823
01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:49.399
<v Speaker 3>And I mean we're talking about a Boston cop here.

1824
01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean the duty Ron and Eddie said,

1825
01:49:55.239 --> 01:49:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what. I'm not sure what Harr's eating

1826
01:49:57.319 --> 01:50:03.640
<v Speaker 2>right now. Hara, Yeah, so yeah, don't know. Yeah, don't

1827
01:50:03.680 --> 01:50:06.039
<v Speaker 2>mess with the cords. But anyway, I told you she

1828
01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:09.720
<v Speaker 2>was going to attack the computer at some point. Duty

1829
01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Ron and ed said, what, he goes, why did they

1830
01:50:13.439 --> 01:50:15.840
<v Speaker 2>not get a tent out there in a space heater

1831
01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:21.479
<v Speaker 2>and melt the snow beneath, beneath where the John's body

1832
01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:24.479
<v Speaker 2>was laying the entire crime scene? You know, basically you

1833
01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:27.000
<v Speaker 2>would want to do you know, a majority of not

1834
01:50:27.119 --> 01:50:29.840
<v Speaker 2>all over the front yard. He said, what do you think?

1835
01:50:30.079 --> 01:50:33.039
<v Speaker 2>He goes, Hey, guys, Massachusetts, I mean, it's snow's there.

1836
01:50:33.079 --> 01:50:34.840
<v Speaker 2>What do you think they do in Norway? What do

1837
01:50:34.840 --> 01:50:38.159
<v Speaker 2>you think they do in Iceland? Finland?

1838
01:50:38.279 --> 01:50:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Can't so if I want to be a serial killer.

1839
01:50:40.840 --> 01:50:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I'll just go, I'll just move to Norway.

1840
01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:45.840
<v Speaker 2>That's you know. Yeah, they'll just take a back.

1841
01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:50.399
<v Speaker 3>You can't, Yeah, obviously you can't solve a crime when

1842
01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:50.960
<v Speaker 3>it's snowing.

1843
01:50:51.479 --> 01:50:54.560
<v Speaker 2>No, you can't. And there's no way for you to

1844
01:50:54.720 --> 01:50:57.600
<v Speaker 2>melt the snow. It's impossible to melt the snow and

1845
01:50:57.640 --> 01:51:00.039
<v Speaker 2>see what the evidence could be beneath, because we have

1846
01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:04.239
<v Speaker 2>invented a technology yet that would enable us to do that, Like,

1847
01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:08.560
<v Speaker 2>we don't have a way budget. Yeah, yes, not well

1848
01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:11.159
<v Speaker 2>it's not in their budget because you have officers making

1849
01:51:11.199 --> 01:51:12.239
<v Speaker 2>three hundred grand a year.

1850
01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Ye, right, the sea.

1851
01:51:17.039 --> 01:51:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Normally not what we would do. No, it's not what

1852
01:51:20.039 --> 01:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>we would do. This is me and lyon in the lawn,

1853
01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:27.079
<v Speaker 2>have you and I'm Jim mckabe Scott. I feel you, brother.

1854
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<v Speaker 2>I knew where you were going with that question. I

1855
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:32.279
<v Speaker 2>figured you were a pro. All right, let's get to

1856
01:51:32.319 --> 01:51:38.119
<v Speaker 2>some questions right here for the glare, just as you.

1857
01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:40.479
<v Speaker 3>Why did Higgins say he did a sweep of the

1858
01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:43.960
<v Speaker 3>driveway when it didn't when it hadn't started snowing enough

1859
01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:49.680
<v Speaker 3>to sweep anything. I don't know. Nothing about Higgins's story

1860
01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:53.239
<v Speaker 3>makes sense to me because now I mean, we didn't

1861
01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:57.680
<v Speaker 3>find out until trial that higgins jeep was parked right there,

1862
01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:00.479
<v Speaker 3>and so that makes it even like he was the

1863
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:05.720
<v Speaker 3>first to arrive right so why right there? That makes

1864
01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:08.680
<v Speaker 3>it even less believable for me that Karen would have

1865
01:52:08.760 --> 01:52:12.159
<v Speaker 3>backed into him at that speed and not you know

1866
01:52:12.199 --> 01:52:14.119
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, the roads slippery, she's you know what

1867
01:52:14.119 --> 01:52:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, like nobody heard a noise. She didn't back

1868
01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:21.800
<v Speaker 3>into Brian Higgins. John o'keef didn't hit Brian Higgins's plow

1869
01:52:22.680 --> 01:52:24.800
<v Speaker 3>in the front of the jeep. It makes no sense.

1870
01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:30.039
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, no, I don't buy that at all. I

1871
01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:33.920
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't buy for one second that Brian Higgins

1872
01:52:34.640 --> 01:52:40.000
<v Speaker 3>plowed the front of the driveway before he left or

1873
01:52:40.079 --> 01:52:42.199
<v Speaker 3>whenever he says he did. I mean, I don't buy

1874
01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:44.359
<v Speaker 3>anything he says, I don't know anything's saying.

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01:52:44.439 --> 01:52:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, why would you go back to the police station

1876
01:52:47.319 --> 01:52:49.439
<v Speaker 2>when you've been drinking all There's a couple of things

1877
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:52.560
<v Speaker 2>that just guy culture. We don't do well. We're done

1878
01:52:52.720 --> 01:52:55.680
<v Speaker 2>after at the second after party, after drinking at two

1879
01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:58.560
<v Speaker 2>other bars. I'm going home, going to bed. I'm not

1880
01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:02.079
<v Speaker 2>going over to cant And police department to move the car.

1881
01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:04.000
<v Speaker 2>For the next day, so we don't so we know

1882
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:06.479
<v Speaker 2>that's a lie. The second thing I'm not doing is

1883
01:53:06.520 --> 01:53:08.640
<v Speaker 2>after we're done with all that and I've spent the evening,

1884
01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not calling Brian Albert to go, hey, how's it going, buddy.

1885
01:53:12.600 --> 01:53:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I know I just left. It's like, yeah, I'll talk

1886
01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:18.720
<v Speaker 2>to you tomorrow. Dude going to bed, Like, guys don't

1887
01:53:18.720 --> 01:53:21.119
<v Speaker 2>do that. So we know you're a liar, Brian. And

1888
01:53:21.159 --> 01:53:26.279
<v Speaker 2>we also know you're a liar, Brian. All right, Samantha Merriman,

1889
01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I got sources, folks close to the case. And Levinson

1890
01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:38.560
<v Speaker 2>also flipped to the FBI. You know, Samantha, Lord, our prayer,

1891
01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Lord here, our prayer, Samantha, that you are right. I

1892
01:53:43.039 --> 01:53:47.319
<v Speaker 2>pray that she flipped and that somebody will get arrested.

1893
01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Sarah Levinson.

1894
01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Sarah Levinson, is that got her name?

1895
01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1896
01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:59.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay, yeah, got it?

1897
01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:03.560
<v Speaker 2>All right? Because they need to arrest somebody young that

1898
01:54:03.680 --> 01:54:06.039
<v Speaker 2>has a lot to lose, because I I I believe,

1899
01:54:06.159 --> 01:54:09.760
<v Speaker 2>or at least I think that if they were to arrest,

1900
01:54:09.840 --> 01:54:11.680
<v Speaker 2>for example, of Brian Albert, I don't know that he

1901
01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:14.920
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't necessarily flip on anybody. He would just think I'm

1902
01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:20.359
<v Speaker 2>going to jail and it's over, I'm gone. What do

1903
01:54:20.359 --> 01:54:21.479
<v Speaker 2>you think they lose him?

1904
01:54:21.640 --> 01:54:25.359
<v Speaker 4>He'd go on the run, he'd be for.

1905
01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:32.960
<v Speaker 2>They have the strike team, get Vic Mackie and uh

1906
01:54:33.239 --> 01:54:34.199
<v Speaker 2>and the strike.

1907
01:54:37.800 --> 01:54:40.680
<v Speaker 3>That's the impression I get from Brian Albert like he's

1908
01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:42.920
<v Speaker 3>got Vic Mackie vibes.

1909
01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Like totally who's also ironically from Massachusetts.

1910
01:54:50.159 --> 01:54:54.399
<v Speaker 3>Right, everyone is scared of Brian Albert like, and he

1911
01:54:54.680 --> 01:55:01.640
<v Speaker 3>clearly sat with Colin Albert and Carrie and Jen McCabe

1912
01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:08.800
<v Speaker 3>in the courtroom that day for the purpose of intimidating

1913
01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:10.880
<v Speaker 3>that jury. I absolutely believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Melissa, I feel what you're saying right here. The

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01:55:16.520 --> 01:55:19.800
<v Speaker 2>only thing that we don't have love is we need

1916
01:55:19.840 --> 01:55:23.199
<v Speaker 2>a motive to let him die, and that is not

1917
01:55:23.439 --> 01:55:27.600
<v Speaker 2>something that's not consistent with these two guys. I think

1918
01:55:27.640 --> 01:55:30.560
<v Speaker 2>with anyone in the house. There had to be a

1919
01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:33.319
<v Speaker 2>reason that they wanted him to die. And the only

1920
01:55:33.399 --> 01:55:35.560
<v Speaker 2>reason I can come up with is someone must have

1921
01:55:35.640 --> 01:55:40.159
<v Speaker 2>committed a felony assault on him that they thought would

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01:55:40.239 --> 01:55:41.760
<v Speaker 2>not be excused.

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01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Or he was aware of another felony, you know, or

1924
01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:46.279
<v Speaker 3>he was aware of something.

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01:55:46.640 --> 01:55:50.520
<v Speaker 2>But that is it's possible Will but that's external to

1926
01:55:50.600 --> 01:55:54.479
<v Speaker 2>everything we know. Now, we're conjecturing outside of the event

1927
01:55:54.880 --> 01:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>if we look at the events itself.

1928
01:55:57.079 --> 01:56:02.239
<v Speaker 3>For what's my point is even still, that's that's you know,

1929
01:56:02.479 --> 01:56:06.039
<v Speaker 3>I I just can't jump on that, right, I mean,

1930
01:56:06.119 --> 01:56:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I possibly to me, that's your scenario is just possible

1931
01:56:10.560 --> 01:56:14.039
<v Speaker 3>as any other scenario, you know what I mean, no more,

1932
01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:19.119
<v Speaker 3>no less. Honestly, well, I have to finally die, that's

1933
01:56:19.159 --> 01:56:21.399
<v Speaker 3>the only thing. But I agree, we don't have a

1934
01:56:21.439 --> 01:56:24.640
<v Speaker 3>motive on normally, that's the first thing I'm looking at

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01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:27.279
<v Speaker 3>as a motive. The first thing that's and you can

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01:56:27.319 --> 01:56:29.560
<v Speaker 3>ask anybody who followed me from the beginning, I was

1937
01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like that was I kept harping on that. I was like,

1938
01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:35.399
<v Speaker 3>I need a motive here. I'm not going to speculate

1939
01:56:35.399 --> 01:56:37.239
<v Speaker 3>as to who kill him because I don't have a motive.

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01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Problem though, is the problem though, is we do know

1941
01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:44.840
<v Speaker 3>that he was in the house, and we do know

1942
01:56:44.920 --> 01:56:47.359
<v Speaker 3>that Karen Reid didn't hit him with her car. So

1943
01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:51.319
<v Speaker 3>that's the only one other place to go, which is

1944
01:56:51.359 --> 01:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>inside thirty fourth Fairview. So I don't need a motive

1945
01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:57.720
<v Speaker 3>at this point to know that whatever happened to him

1946
01:56:57.720 --> 01:57:00.239
<v Speaker 3>happened inside that house. The problem is is that I

1947
01:57:00.239 --> 01:57:03.920
<v Speaker 3>can't I can't even speculate as to who did what

1948
01:57:04.560 --> 01:57:07.399
<v Speaker 3>because I have no idea what happened inside that house.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no idea, Well we we, but now I feel

1950
01:57:11.680 --> 01:57:16.119
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have any idea until like twenty four or

1951
01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:18.000
<v Speaker 2>fourty eight hours ago. Now I think I have an

1952
01:57:18.039 --> 01:57:22.119
<v Speaker 2>idea because we had to have a motive for them

1953
01:57:22.159 --> 01:57:24.640
<v Speaker 2>to allow him to die, and I never thought of

1954
01:57:24.680 --> 01:57:28.760
<v Speaker 2>it and I never used that context or framework. I

1955
01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:31.960
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say that someone murdered him even though

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01:57:31.960 --> 01:57:35.359
<v Speaker 2>the law that's where we because the well, hold on,

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01:57:35.640 --> 01:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>let me just finish. The law will charge someone with

1958
01:57:38.119 --> 01:57:41.039
<v Speaker 2>murder if they knew everything that happened, they would because

1959
01:57:41.079 --> 01:57:44.239
<v Speaker 2>someone struck a blow that that resulted in his death.

1960
01:57:44.279 --> 01:57:47.039
<v Speaker 2>So the law would call them a murderer. What I'm

1961
01:57:47.359 --> 01:57:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and and it would would can you know, try them

1962
01:57:49.680 --> 01:57:54.279
<v Speaker 2>as a murderer legitimately. What I'm saying is what actually

1963
01:57:54.319 --> 01:57:57.800
<v Speaker 2>occurred though, is there was an injury that they decided

1964
01:57:57.920 --> 01:58:01.359
<v Speaker 2>not to treat that resulted in his death. And to

1965
01:58:01.479 --> 01:58:04.640
<v Speaker 2>go to that length given the facts that we know

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01:58:05.359 --> 01:58:09.760
<v Speaker 2>beyond you know, without extending beyond the four corners of

1967
01:58:10.279 --> 01:58:16.760
<v Speaker 2>the waterfall Karen, Brian uh sexting, all these kinds of

1968
01:58:16.800 --> 01:58:20.279
<v Speaker 2>things beyond the Waterfall thirty four fair View and C. F.

1969
01:58:20.399 --> 01:58:25.880
<v Speaker 2>McCarthy's if I just use that prism the interactions between Uh,

1970
01:58:26.199 --> 01:58:30.159
<v Speaker 2>John and just by the what we know that is

1971
01:58:30.199 --> 01:58:34.039
<v Speaker 2>transpired between the individuals who were present at the two

1972
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:37.399
<v Speaker 2>locations and at the party. That's where I come up

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01:58:37.439 --> 01:58:42.960
<v Speaker 2>with with Colin Albert, because they they would have to

1974
01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:47.319
<v Speaker 2>say that this is so egregious that if he talks,

1975
01:58:48.079 --> 01:58:52.239
<v Speaker 2>he somebody will be charged with felony assault. And the

1976
01:58:52.279 --> 01:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>only the person who's most exposed, Brian Albert has obviously

1977
01:58:56.880 --> 01:59:00.319
<v Speaker 2>committed a number of felony assaults. He broke that bottle

1978
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:04.359
<v Speaker 2>over the Boston fireman's head, He beat up the guy

1979
01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:07.479
<v Speaker 2>at the police, the Marine Corps ball and kicked him

1980
01:59:07.520 --> 01:59:10.760
<v Speaker 2>in the face, and other ones that Sean Sean McDonough

1981
01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:13.560
<v Speaker 2>has alluded to. Brian Higgins, I don't know a lot

1982
01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:16.520
<v Speaker 2>about his history other than like we talked about him

1983
01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:20.600
<v Speaker 2>being socially awkward. So the only other thing we have

1984
01:59:20.880 --> 01:59:25.479
<v Speaker 2>is the person who's exposed is Colin, because if he's

1985
01:59:25.560 --> 01:59:30.239
<v Speaker 2>charged with felony assault, it reshapes where his future is

1986
01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:34.279
<v Speaker 2>going to be. It does not reshape the future of

1987
01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Brian Higgins or Brian Albert because they can still get

1988
01:59:38.880 --> 01:59:42.720
<v Speaker 2>a retirement. Apparently, it seems like even even a proctor

1989
01:59:42.800 --> 01:59:45.920
<v Speaker 2>can can get his retirement even after being kicked off

1990
01:59:45.960 --> 01:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the force. So anyway, that's I'm not saying. So go ahead, love,

1991
01:59:55.680 --> 02:00:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Hi doggie, Olivia Lambo's here. Let me oh. We got

1992
02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:03.600
<v Speaker 2>to say hello to her, and I got to go

1993
02:00:03.680 --> 02:00:05.800
<v Speaker 2>back to that one that I just started. Where is she?

1994
02:00:05.920 --> 02:00:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't Olivia, and hey, holy guacamole, you're overthinking. Okay,

1995
02:00:13.079 --> 02:00:16.960
<v Speaker 2>hey this I am just I was Olivia. I'm just

1996
02:00:17.000 --> 02:00:20.720
<v Speaker 2>trying to come up with a hypothesis, that's all. I'm

1997
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<v Speaker 2>not saying he did it. I know he did. I

1998
02:00:22.920 --> 02:00:25.399
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm trying to come up with a motive.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm trying to do. But I do want it.

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<v Speaker 2>While you're here, I want to say I've said it.

2001
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<v Speaker 2>On the last show we profiled some of your work.

2002
02:00:33.800 --> 02:00:37.640
<v Speaker 2>When I think at Nurse Nurse Kim on that show

2003
02:00:37.640 --> 02:00:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you did with Sean was absolutely amazing. What you taught

2004
02:00:41.359 --> 02:00:47.399
<v Speaker 2>us about hash values and complete forensic downloads of a

2005
02:00:47.439 --> 02:00:52.760
<v Speaker 2>phone that are unaltered, and you're absolutely amazing so thank

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02:00:52.800 --> 02:00:56.159
<v Speaker 2>you so much, Diane. Have you on the show. I

2007
02:00:56.199 --> 02:00:58.079
<v Speaker 2>did send you a DM, so you will see a

2008
02:00:58.119 --> 02:01:01.520
<v Speaker 2>DM from at all all beings and it's a bald

2009
02:01:01.520 --> 02:01:05.119
<v Speaker 2>headed person with sunglasses. That's me because we would love

2010
02:01:05.119 --> 02:01:07.560
<v Speaker 2>to have you on. You're just absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Sopot.

2012
02:01:12.199 --> 02:01:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Valuable source of insight.

2013
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, actually, Olivia, absolutely amazing. Your work is just what

2014
02:01:22.039 --> 02:01:25.439
<v Speaker 2>we learned. I did not understand all of the cell

2015
02:01:25.479 --> 02:01:29.880
<v Speaker 2>phone information at the trial, and it wasn't until you

2016
02:01:29.960 --> 02:01:34.279
<v Speaker 2>explained it to Sean that I understood it. That those singular,

2017
02:01:34.880 --> 02:01:41.920
<v Speaker 2>unique identifying fingerprints associated with each transaction on the phone,

2018
02:01:41.960 --> 02:01:45.760
<v Speaker 2>whether it be a search, a text, a call, et cetera.

2019
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<v Speaker 2>Now I understand it. So thank you. Mort That's what's up,

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02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:53.319
<v Speaker 2>And let me know if you want to come on

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02:01:53.359 --> 02:01:55.359
<v Speaker 2>here and talk about it, because I'm dying to have

2022
02:01:55.439 --> 02:01:58.359
<v Speaker 2>you on. Totally fanboying out and I'm not ashamed to

2023
02:01:58.399 --> 02:01:59.359
<v Speaker 2>say it should I be.

2024
02:02:00.079 --> 02:02:02.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm a big Olivia Nile fan as well. I I

2025
02:02:02.840 --> 02:02:07.199
<v Speaker 3>don't mind's fan boying for for anybody. It's if it's due,

2026
02:02:07.239 --> 02:02:08.159
<v Speaker 3>it's due, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know, like like Nurse Kim, I would be

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02:02:12.319 --> 02:02:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the president.

2029
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<v Speaker 3>Of I'm a Kevin Keene fan boy for sure.

2030
02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Kevin h Hey, I don't know have we spoken before

2031
02:02:21.159 --> 02:02:23.279
<v Speaker 2>or have you been on here? I'm not sure.

2032
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he's got a podcast. I was a guest on

2033
02:02:25.800 --> 02:02:26.880
<v Speaker 3>his podcast once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. It's a really clever name too. It's

2036
02:02:31.720 --> 02:02:34.840
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a rock like a like a music podcast.

2037
02:02:35.479 --> 02:02:37.520
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like a dick now because I forgot

2038
02:02:37.560 --> 02:02:38.680
<v Speaker 3>because it's a really clever name too.

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<v Speaker 2>Vin. Could you put it in the chat?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kevin, tell us what the name of your podcast is.

2041
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<v Speaker 3>It's great. I I had a lot of fun talking

2042
02:02:47.600 --> 02:02:51.880
<v Speaker 3>to him. Ken and Chris Loring joined us too. He's

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<v Speaker 3>the guy who does the free care and read song

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02:02:53.840 --> 02:02:57.960
<v Speaker 3>that I play and uh yeah, he's the guy who

2045
02:02:57.960 --> 02:03:01.039
<v Speaker 3>did that. And so it's a hard rock life there

2046
02:03:01.039 --> 02:03:01.319
<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it. It's a I remember that from

2048
02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Austin Powers as well. Okay, so let's get Kevin's in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't the cops set up construction barrels with police

2050
02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:16.000
<v Speaker 2>tape if the wind was so bad, at least they

2051
02:03:16.039 --> 02:03:19.039
<v Speaker 2>could have gotten them from the water department, that is,

2052
02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:21.720
<v Speaker 2>if the cops didn't have them already. Yeah. I mean,

2053
02:03:22.640 --> 02:03:25.520
<v Speaker 2>but my answer to this is everything. You know. It's

2054
02:03:25.600 --> 02:03:28.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of like I tried out for this play at

2055
02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:31.840
<v Speaker 2>college one time, and the I was basically reading for

2056
02:03:31.880 --> 02:03:34.039
<v Speaker 2>a part, and then you'd go out and and they

2057
02:03:34.039 --> 02:03:36.760
<v Speaker 2>would basically give you sort of a screen test, and

2058
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<v Speaker 2>he said, I want everybody to come out in a

2059
02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:43.119
<v Speaker 2>dancing conga line, but I want you to do it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to not look cool. So everybody came

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02:03:46.439 --> 02:03:48.920
<v Speaker 2>out of it like the doorway dancing, and you had

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02:03:48.920 --> 02:03:52.800
<v Speaker 2>to dance like your most ridiculous worst dance. So that's

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02:03:52.840 --> 02:03:55.640
<v Speaker 2>what they did, is that everything was done. And obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Will and I are in alignment on this. Everything was

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02:03:59.039 --> 02:04:03.760
<v Speaker 2>done purposely, incorrectly so as not to provide any exculpatory

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02:04:03.800 --> 02:04:06.960
<v Speaker 2>evidence to Karen. And if they would have done it correctly,

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02:04:07.319 --> 02:04:09.479
<v Speaker 2>it would have excluded Karen, and they didn't want that,

2068
02:04:09.560 --> 02:04:10.399
<v Speaker 2>so you couldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>All of the evidence is practically exculpatory, almost all of it.

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02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's crazy like anything, like if if it's

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02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:22.920
<v Speaker 3>not solid beyond a reasonable doubt evidence, then it's exculpatory

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02:04:23.800 --> 02:04:26.640
<v Speaker 3>to some degree in my opinion at least. You know,

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02:04:26.880 --> 02:04:30.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure any lawyer will disagree with me, but I

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02:04:30.359 --> 02:04:35.239
<v Speaker 3>mean to me, all of these things, this lack of

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02:04:35.279 --> 02:04:39.680
<v Speaker 3>an investigation that took place as a whole, is exculpatory

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02:04:39.760 --> 02:04:41.520
<v Speaker 3>evidence in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree. And the only thing, the only thing

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02:04:46.800 --> 02:04:51.760
<v Speaker 2>that isn't exculpatory are the things they presented. I hit him,

2079
02:04:51.800 --> 02:04:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I hit him, I hit him. That's basically their entire case,

2080
02:04:55.319 --> 02:04:55.800
<v Speaker 2>that is.

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02:04:55.920 --> 02:05:00.760
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, nobody credible testified to this, So I

2082
02:05:00.760 --> 02:05:03.720
<v Speaker 3>mean the credibility of those witnesses is down the tubes.

2083
02:05:04.000 --> 02:05:07.920
<v Speaker 3>You have Jen McCabe saying it. Jen McCabe lied like

2084
02:05:08.199 --> 02:05:13.920
<v Speaker 3>crazy on the STA again. And then you had Caitlin

2085
02:05:14.479 --> 02:05:19.600
<v Speaker 3>uh mc McCollum, m McCullough I forget her last name.

2086
02:05:19.800 --> 02:05:24.319
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about them, right, and she she.

2087
02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Was best friends with with Caitlyn Albert.

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02:05:27.600 --> 02:05:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh, well we went to the I mean I

2089
02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:33.640
<v Speaker 2>knew we're in high school. It's like, well, wait a minute,

2090
02:05:33.760 --> 02:05:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you were just at a baby shower like six months ago,

2091
02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and you visit each other in college and you went

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02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:39.439
<v Speaker 2>to the beach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Right, And of course BEV wants to block that evidence. McLoughlin,

2094
02:05:46.319 --> 02:05:51.640
<v Speaker 3>thank you. BEV wants to block that evidence. But of

2095
02:05:51.680 --> 02:05:53.880
<v Speaker 3>course that has nothing to do with the fact that

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02:05:53.960 --> 02:06:01.119
<v Speaker 3>she uh has uh a a brother who represented Chris

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02:06:01.119 --> 02:06:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Albert when he killed somebody, right or that not going

2098
02:06:03.840 --> 02:06:08.159
<v Speaker 3>to do with anything, you know. So, I mean, this

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02:06:08.199 --> 02:06:10.840
<v Speaker 3>whole thing stinks. The whole thing reaks.

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<v Speaker 2>The effort, the.

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02:06:12.079 --> 02:06:14.800
<v Speaker 4>Effort to make sure that the right evidence doesn't get

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02:06:14.800 --> 02:06:18.079
<v Speaker 4>in is just it's just an effort. I mean, that's

2103
02:06:18.119 --> 02:06:20.319
<v Speaker 4>exhausting just listening to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm a lot yours totally. If you are acting

2105
02:06:24.880 --> 02:06:27.359
<v Speaker 3>in the interest of justice, you were going to make

2106
02:06:29.159 --> 02:06:32.760
<v Speaker 3>vastly different decisions than Judge Beverly Canoni made as a judge.

2107
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think she's I don't think justice is

2108
02:06:36.359 --> 02:06:40.840
<v Speaker 2>what she's acting. Katie McLaughlin, Yeah, you're right. I think

2109
02:06:41.159 --> 02:06:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think justice is what she's after. I think

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02:06:44.039 --> 02:06:48.960
<v Speaker 2>what she's after is to finger Karen Reid for this

2111
02:06:49.079 --> 02:06:52.159
<v Speaker 2>murder and and just go along with maybe you know,

2112
02:06:52.199 --> 02:06:56.600
<v Speaker 2>they talked about there was a relationship between somebody in

2113
02:06:56.640 --> 02:07:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Michael Morrissey's family and maybe Judge Bev's mother. They're momed

2114
02:07:00.760 --> 02:07:05.680
<v Speaker 2>in the cafeteria together. So there's just too many She's

2115
02:07:05.680 --> 02:07:08.000
<v Speaker 2>a towny, you know, and I come from a town

2116
02:07:08.039 --> 02:07:10.840
<v Speaker 2>that's like that, and to a degree, I'm a towny.

2117
02:07:11.199 --> 02:07:14.640
<v Speaker 2>But guess what if somebody kills somebody or does something

2118
02:07:14.680 --> 02:07:17.560
<v Speaker 2>like this, I'm diming you out, man, just like just

2119
02:07:17.600 --> 02:07:20.479
<v Speaker 2>like the Las Vegas cops Gonzo and Brian said, I'm

2120
02:07:20.560 --> 02:07:23.960
<v Speaker 2>diming you out. I want to answer, Scott says, exactly,

2121
02:07:24.039 --> 02:07:26.239
<v Speaker 2>will It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

2122
02:07:26.840 --> 02:07:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And the only thing that can be proven is that

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02:07:29.880 --> 02:07:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Officer O'Keefe was assaulted and not hit by a car,

2124
02:07:32.439 --> 02:07:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and Karen didn't do it. You're one hundred percent right

2125
02:07:34.680 --> 02:07:37.159
<v Speaker 2>and that that you are one hundred percent right. That

2126
02:07:37.279 --> 02:07:41.520
<v Speaker 2>is exactly what the defense their their tack needs to take.

2127
02:07:41.840 --> 02:07:44.199
<v Speaker 2>They need to take as a defense team is not

2128
02:07:44.680 --> 02:07:48.520
<v Speaker 2>focus on the conspiracy theory, but focus on how there's

2129
02:07:48.600 --> 02:07:51.520
<v Speaker 2>reasonable doubt, and if there's reasonable doubt, that means you

2130
02:07:51.520 --> 02:07:54.920
<v Speaker 2>acquit her For me, Scott, just like I did with UFOs,

2131
02:07:55.640 --> 02:07:59.760
<v Speaker 2>when I cover that topic is I'll hypothesize about things.

2132
02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:03.399
<v Speaker 2>And I have a lot more expertise when it comes

2133
02:08:03.399 --> 02:08:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to aviation and UFOs and what could potentially be an

2134
02:08:07.680 --> 02:08:13.279
<v Speaker 2>unidentified aerial phenomenon and what could be a terrestrial aircraft.

2135
02:08:13.800 --> 02:08:17.239
<v Speaker 2>But in this case, for the for the fun of it, Basically,

2136
02:08:17.319 --> 02:08:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to hypothesize and figure out what motive would

2137
02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:23.960
<v Speaker 2>there be, not that it's going to lead to anything,

2138
02:08:24.119 --> 02:08:27.000
<v Speaker 2>not that they can prove it, not that it matters

2139
02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:30.439
<v Speaker 2>more than because we're sitting here talking about it. So

2140
02:08:30.520 --> 02:08:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that that's my take on that. All right, it is

2141
02:08:34.039 --> 02:08:37.000
<v Speaker 2>time to get the glare out of here. The Vegas

2142
02:08:37.039 --> 02:08:40.479
<v Speaker 2>cop Daddy's like, you like the guns right of a

2143
02:08:40.600 --> 02:08:41.560
<v Speaker 2>gouns own, Brian.

2144
02:08:41.760 --> 02:08:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Were awesome, man, Like, those guys didn't come a moment

2145
02:08:46.680 --> 02:08:52.079
<v Speaker 3>too soon, because they they said everything that I wanted

2146
02:08:52.119 --> 02:08:57.359
<v Speaker 3>to hear from law enforcement agents. You know, I mean

2147
02:08:57.439 --> 02:08:59.479
<v Speaker 3>I was hearing it. I hear it from Scott, I

2148
02:08:59.479 --> 02:09:03.479
<v Speaker 3>hear it from Sean McDonough, you know, but to hear

2149
02:09:03.640 --> 02:09:06.079
<v Speaker 3>these guys go, wait a second, Like as soon as

2150
02:09:06.079 --> 02:09:08.119
<v Speaker 3>we heard about this case, we're thinking, how are we

2151
02:09:08.159 --> 02:09:10.199
<v Speaker 3>going to secure the crime scenes? First thing they do,

2152
02:09:10.640 --> 02:09:13.479
<v Speaker 3>first thing they get into is like everything from the

2153
02:09:13.520 --> 02:09:18.399
<v Speaker 3>beginning was done wrong here, Like there's no way that

2154
02:09:18.479 --> 02:09:20.760
<v Speaker 3>they're like, not only for a dead cop, not only

2155
02:09:20.800 --> 02:09:23.000
<v Speaker 3>would we have secured the house, but we would have

2156
02:09:23.039 --> 02:09:26.760
<v Speaker 3>secured the street. Nobody would have been coming down the

2157
02:09:26.800 --> 02:09:30.960
<v Speaker 3>street ever so not while we were investigating and on

2158
02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:34.359
<v Speaker 3>top of that, they're like, we would have absolutely knocked

2159
02:09:34.359 --> 02:09:36.760
<v Speaker 3>on the door of that house and gone and gone

2160
02:09:36.840 --> 02:09:40.319
<v Speaker 3>in that house, like you know, there's a there's a

2161
02:09:40.359 --> 02:09:42.920
<v Speaker 3>cop dying on your lawn. Dude, we need to go

2162
02:09:42.960 --> 02:09:46.960
<v Speaker 3>inside and make sure everybody's okay. You know. That's I mean,

2163
02:09:47.960 --> 02:09:50.239
<v Speaker 3>it's very simple that the fact that this stuff didn't

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02:09:50.239 --> 02:09:52.279
<v Speaker 3>happen and that there are people and I'm gonna quote

2165
02:09:52.279 --> 02:09:56.479
<v Speaker 3>Turtle Boy here verbatim, the dumbest people in the world

2166
02:09:57.880 --> 02:10:02.439
<v Speaker 3>think that Karen Reid is guilty Evans of the world verbato.

2167
02:10:02.479 --> 02:10:05.920
<v Speaker 3>And because I watched the video where plug and tried

2168
02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:09.319
<v Speaker 3>to troll them controlled himself and Joe Flipper had clipped

2169
02:10:09.359 --> 02:10:10.880
<v Speaker 3>it for me, and I watched it over and over

2170
02:10:10.920 --> 02:10:14.199
<v Speaker 3>again and laughed like a maniac every time I watch it.

2171
02:10:14.239 --> 02:10:17.560
<v Speaker 3>I laughed, it's so good?

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02:10:17.560 --> 02:10:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Would you have? Did you want to say something, Jessica,

2173
02:10:19.359 --> 02:10:20.680
<v Speaker 2>go ahead, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first, I would like to say, I would like

2175
02:10:22.520 --> 02:10:25.239
<v Speaker 4>to know what play your auditioning for when you did

2176
02:10:25.239 --> 02:10:27.439
<v Speaker 4>that dance, and we would actually like to see that

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02:10:27.800 --> 02:10:30.439
<v Speaker 4>done on a live stream. Only because I grew up

2178
02:10:30.479 --> 02:10:32.840
<v Speaker 4>in theater and dancing and all that jazz.

2179
02:10:32.640 --> 02:10:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Which, by the way I want to be in the band.

2180
02:10:34.520 --> 02:10:37.359
<v Speaker 4>I did sing with Queen Latifa growing up, so I

2181
02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:39.319
<v Speaker 4>got the okay, yeah.

2182
02:10:39.199 --> 02:10:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Right on.

2183
02:10:41.079 --> 02:10:45.319
<v Speaker 2>So I was staying. My last duty station was Canon

2184
02:10:45.359 --> 02:10:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Air Force Base and there was a soccer team there

2185
02:10:48.960 --> 02:10:51.640
<v Speaker 2>of kids, and we used to a lot of them

2186
02:10:51.640 --> 02:10:54.520
<v Speaker 2>were international, and since my wife's from Brazil, we would

2187
02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:56.880
<v Speaker 2>have the kids over and just so they weren't like,

2188
02:10:57.399 --> 02:11:00.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a home to go to. So one of them, oh, yeah,

2189
02:11:00.680 --> 02:11:03.600
<v Speaker 2>they're having a tryouts for a play and they asked,

2190
02:11:03.800 --> 02:11:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, can people from the town who aren't

2191
02:11:06.920 --> 02:11:10.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, aren't attending the college, can can we try out?

2192
02:11:10.520 --> 02:11:13.199
<v Speaker 2>And they said yeah, And I went out on stage,

2193
02:11:13.760 --> 02:11:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I spoke and that got me through to an audition

2194
02:11:18.479 --> 02:11:22.039
<v Speaker 2>and othello, I think was one. The second one I

2195
02:11:22.119 --> 02:11:25.399
<v Speaker 2>don't remember. I know I didn't get selected for the two.

2196
02:11:25.439 --> 02:11:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I auditioned for the one audition for that day. The

2197
02:11:28.720 --> 02:11:32.520
<v Speaker 2>second one they actually asked me could I do the

2198
02:11:32.560 --> 02:11:35.399
<v Speaker 2>part and come to rehearsal And it turned out, as

2199
02:11:35.439 --> 02:11:39.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, Jessica, I got deployed again Afghanistan and that

2200
02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:41.359
<v Speaker 2>was the end of that was the end of me

2201
02:11:42.119 --> 02:11:44.239
<v Speaker 2>being in a college play. So anyway, but it was

2202
02:11:44.279 --> 02:11:47.199
<v Speaker 2>it was fun to go out there and as a

2203
02:11:47.479 --> 02:11:50.039
<v Speaker 2>forty and what was I at the time, forty two

2204
02:11:50.199 --> 02:11:52.359
<v Speaker 2>or forty three year old and do it. So anyway,

2205
02:11:53.159 --> 02:11:55.720
<v Speaker 2>that's all right. There's way too much about me in

2206
02:11:55.720 --> 02:11:59.800
<v Speaker 2>this episode. I want to thank you guys for being

2207
02:11:59.840 --> 02:12:03.119
<v Speaker 2>in the chat and doing all your damn benness and

2208
02:12:05.279 --> 02:12:08.520
<v Speaker 2>there you go. This is what thank you, Samantha you

2209
02:12:08.600 --> 02:12:12.319
<v Speaker 2>are You are making us feel whole and making us

2210
02:12:12.319 --> 02:12:17.119
<v Speaker 2>feel good. Ken, Yeah, and Katie McLaughlin, I hit him story.

2211
02:12:17.159 --> 02:12:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I know Jen McCabe wouldn't know the truth if it's

2212
02:12:19.800 --> 02:12:21.560
<v Speaker 2>slapped her in her face.

2213
02:12:22.199 --> 02:12:24.520
<v Speaker 3>So he knows the truth. She knows the truth.

2214
02:12:25.079 --> 02:12:27.840
<v Speaker 2>She wouldn't speak she would not have speak the truth.

2215
02:12:27.880 --> 02:12:31.439
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's the right word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with

2216
02:12:31.479 --> 02:12:31.920
<v Speaker 3>you on that.

2217
02:12:32.479 --> 02:12:35.600
<v Speaker 2>So Glaire, tell us what you got coming up and

2218
02:12:35.880 --> 02:12:38.399
<v Speaker 2>what's happening soon on the on the show.

2219
02:12:39.479 --> 02:12:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Dude, I wing it every time, man, And whenever there's

2220
02:12:42.960 --> 02:12:45.239
<v Speaker 3>a development, I go live, I talk about it, I

2221
02:12:45.279 --> 02:12:47.439
<v Speaker 3>give my opinions on it, and that's it. I I

2222
02:12:47.680 --> 02:12:52.960
<v Speaker 3>there's no there's no uh, there's there's nothing organized about

2223
02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:55.840
<v Speaker 3>what I do. Absolutely nothing.

2224
02:12:57.079 --> 02:12:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know i'd like to organize another show with

2225
02:12:59.880 --> 02:13:04.199
<v Speaker 2>you on it. It was an absolute pleasure having you

2226
02:13:04.279 --> 02:13:07.760
<v Speaker 2>on the audience obviously loves you. And look we even

2227
02:13:07.800 --> 02:13:10.039
<v Speaker 2>got Jessica to make her first appearance on air.

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02:13:10.199 --> 02:13:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thank you so much for having me. Well, it's

2229
02:13:12.680 --> 02:13:15.880
<v Speaker 4>so awesome getting to officially meet you. Now, maybe you

2230
02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:18.880
<v Speaker 4>won't ignore my chats and your chat. I feel ignored.

2231
02:13:19.000 --> 02:13:20.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm just kidding.

2232
02:13:20.520 --> 02:13:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm bad at interacting with the chat.

2233
02:13:25.800 --> 02:13:31.239
<v Speaker 3>That's why I have Cherry there. Cherry's Cherry's domain. Yeah,

2234
02:13:31.680 --> 02:13:36.079
<v Speaker 3>Cherry's domain is the chat. Awesome she is, She's She's

2235
02:13:36.119 --> 02:13:39.319
<v Speaker 3>great as as a Batman would say. I couldn't find

2236
02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:40.399
<v Speaker 3>my socks without her.

2237
02:13:42.680 --> 02:13:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Is that a dog or cat? What? What is Ernie?

2238
02:13:44.880 --> 02:13:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Is it.

2239
02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:50.079
<v Speaker 4>One of the mods in and Shorty's group? She just

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02:13:50.119 --> 02:13:50.760
<v Speaker 4>came chat?

2241
02:13:51.479 --> 02:13:56.279
<v Speaker 2>But hi, Ernie, how are you? But somebody is uh

2242
02:13:56.520 --> 02:13:58.279
<v Speaker 2>what is that a dog or cat? By your fees?

2243
02:13:58.279 --> 02:13:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Is that a cat? Her dog?

2244
02:14:01.000 --> 02:14:05.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh me, that's my dog Cluver Yeah.

2245
02:14:04.600 --> 02:14:07.359
<v Speaker 2>CLUBB as in CLUBB lang I dig it?

2246
02:14:07.920 --> 02:14:09.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah all right. I'm a big Rocky fan.

2247
02:14:11.560 --> 02:14:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Ah love Rocky Man. Rocky one one of my favorite movies. EBA,

2248
02:14:16.359 --> 02:14:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I love.

2249
02:14:18.800 --> 02:14:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Movies, all of it.

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02:14:19.680 --> 02:14:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, dig it man, dig it and we

2251
02:14:22.880 --> 02:14:25.039
<v Speaker 2>dig you. I want to thank you for coming and

2252
02:14:25.079 --> 02:14:28.960
<v Speaker 2>doing this and we hope to have you back again.

2253
02:14:29.039 --> 02:14:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Have you on a round table or something I think

2254
02:14:31.840 --> 02:14:33.399
<v Speaker 2>would be fun anytime.

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02:14:33.439 --> 02:14:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I had a great time. Thanks for inviting me now.

2256
02:14:35.000 --> 02:14:36.199
<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate it.

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02:14:36.399 --> 02:14:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Pleasure Jules, Thank you Darling for doing what you're doing.

2258
02:14:40.399 --> 02:14:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Miss Jessica. To everybody out there, this is

2259
02:14:43.479 --> 02:14:47.800
<v Speaker 2>this is DJ saying peace out, one love. We'll see

2260
02:14:47.840 --> 02:14:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you down the road and we're always wondering what's up

2261
02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:51.479
<v Speaker 2>around the Bend.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye, guys,
