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Speaker 3: How on the streets the other night you got me

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a drunk got the fight there?

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Speaker 4: I was onside of road lighting a pool of blood.

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Stove stove stock left gay stove. I don't mind what

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Speaker 5: Let left me to the other night. I don't know

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any reasons why.

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Speaker 4: Stop level the stove store left on gay stock stove

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no level as stove stove lac stove.

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Speaker 6: Then I was lying there looking.

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Speaker 4: At the star to mo mad when I wonder how

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I been and if my life was going to end?

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Stove level ass stove stop stop left stop stop stop.

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Speaker 5: That is called left four dead. The band is four

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feet out and you are listening to Matt connorton Unleashed.

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If you are listening live on Saturday, we have entered

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our number two new Merrow dose. Today is Saturday, April twelve,

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twenty twenty five. And again, if you are listen live,

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please be careful if you're traveling. It is snowing outside.

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Although while Jenny you said it looks like it might

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have finally stopped, it does Okay, it stopped, Okay, good

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but be careful traveling. The roads are are quite messy

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as we are experiencing some winter weather in the middle

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of April. But what are you gonna do? Anyway, we've

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got Echo Ray is here with us live in studio. Welcome,

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good morning, Hello, Hello. So you've actually been on the

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show before. As we discussed off air, you were here

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with Dark Rain, and that must have been well, we've

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been we've been at the new location for what a

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year and a half now, so that must have been

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like two years ago.

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Speaker 3: A yeah, I guess it must have been two years. Time

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just flies, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: It's funny because sometimes we'll have we'll have people on

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the show and I'll be like, okay, so this is

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somebody new and then it's like, well wait a minute,

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though I might I've probably met them at some point.

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I definitely know you, but I couldn't remember where. And

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then you said Dark Rain. I was like, oh, yeah, okay,

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I remember now you are. And by the way, we're

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gonna play another other couple other great tracks that you

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sent us, uh later in the show, but you're wearing

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your lone Wolf James Shirt, great great band. We saw them,

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Jenny and I saw them at Swarmy Fest, and you know,

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I was impressed with their live set and how it's

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such a cool name, Lone Wolf. James and I seen

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them live. I remember saying to Jenny, I said, they

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sound exactly like their name. They sound exactly like you

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would expect a band with that name to.

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Speaker 6: Sound, which absolutely good hard and.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna play a song from Diamond Edge later too.

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In Diamond Edge they were really good live too. But

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but tell us about you, what do you do in

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Speaker 3: Well, I go by the rock and redhead. I travel

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all over New England, up and down from Maine, the

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Rhode Island and beyond, even in support of local music.

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So New England definitely does not get the recognition that

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it deserves for the music scene. And right now it

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is truly thriving. Oh yeah, bands are coming out of

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the woodwork and they're amazing bands with incredible talent.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's so much great talent here and uh, you know,

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for the show, but people will ask us, you know,

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how do you find how do you find these musicians?

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Speaker 5: You know, there's there's so much incredible talent around.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, were you gonna say, Jenny, they actually find us,

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. By the way, our first guest in the first hour,

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Katie Doins, said in the chat room, thank you Matt

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for always supporting me and sharing my music and so

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many local musicians so grateful. Well, we're we're very glad

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to do it, Katie, And you know that is that

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New England or specifically New Hampshire and and we also

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and they send us some great artists from over there

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who skype in, you know, across the pond as it were.

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strong majority of the artists we talk to are within

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n H. And but I always tell people too, you know,

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if you're you know, if if you're bored with whatever

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you're hearing on commercial radio, you know, uh, there's there's

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so much great talent, there's so much great independent music

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being made, and wherever you are, whether you're here or

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because I assume it's the same everywhere, I assume no

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matter where you are in the United States, there's there's

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probably incredible music being made right under your nose that

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if you're not paying attention, you don't even know it's there.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I can attest to that.

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Speaker 3: Whenever I travel out of state, you know, like well

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local scene. Wherever I'm at, there is definitely a scene

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no matter where you go, you just you need to

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find it, that's all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So our friend Eleanor had posted something the other

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day kind of on this subject. Let me see if

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I can. Why is my screen so dark? Trying to

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look at this on my phone? So she posted, and

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when you support local bands, you're supporting new music. You're

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part of an exclusive group of people who hear songs

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the first time they're played. Get in on the ground

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floor as a super fan, uh, and be up close

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and personal to real rock stars. What's played on radio

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is often decades old music of people who often are

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no longer performing. Why allow a stage, screen or a

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speaker to come between you and your music. When you

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support a local artist, you are supporting real art and

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real people, and you're not filling billionaire pockets? And does

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anyone think about that? And then, you know, people made

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various comments, but I thought that was a great insight too,

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because yeah, when you support local musicians, yeah, you're you're

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kind of getting you're getting it on the ground floor.

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Speaker 6: You know absolutely and exactly what it's about.

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Speaker 5: And you get to witness up close to their development

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Speaker 6: Yep, yep. You know.

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some point too, exactly exactly your your favorite national band

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local scene that boosted them to where they are.

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Speaker 5: Yep. Yeah, Well, what's the expression? Every every overnight sensation

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was years in the making.

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Speaker 6: Yes. Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: How long have you been? I mean, how long have

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Speaker 6: I think August will make two years. But I have

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Speaker 3: I hate to use the term groupie, but a super fan,

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if you will, as long as I can remember. You know,

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way back in the eighties, I fell in love with

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the Guns N' Roses videos and I just knew that

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I needed to be in the music scene somehow, so

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I lived out my life. I got stuck doing a

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bunch of retail jobs, dead end stuff here and there,

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but I was really good at it, really good at sales,

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really good at people marketing, that sort of thing. So

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I do have with all of that and twist it

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into selling the music and the bands at a local

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level here to kind of get that New England scene scene, because,

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like I said, we don't get nearly the enough recognition.

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Speaker 5: Right, So how do you do that? Like, what do

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you do in terms of promoting these artists that you

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on the socials, And as I was telling you off air,

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I almost need an assistant just to handle the socials

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because they're so out of control. And then you get

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the different bands and all of their socials added into everything,

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and it just becomes this huge tree of bands and

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musicians and it's pretty wild.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like how many how many bands are you sort

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of actively promoting at any one time?

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Speaker 3: Or quite a few, because I don't really limit myself. Basically,

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if you have talent and you put your hard work, skill, blood,

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sweat and tears into what you're doing, I will recognize

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that absolutely. If your stuff's good, I will throw it

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out there, share it as much as I can on

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all of my platforms. I've got a bunch of different

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groups that I'm associated with all around New England. Yeah,

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and ever since I went with the Rock and Redhead,

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my name is actually it's it's being remembered now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, so people are hearing me.

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Speaker 3: I was down in Massachusetts last year and I went

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to hand somebody one of my stickers and he says.

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Speaker 6: I've seen you. You're on social media.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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of building that brand, and that's you know, I'm very

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into anybody who knows anything about my background, very into

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marketing and branding and so forth, which is a part

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of you know, whether anyone likes it or not, it's

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an important part of the music industry, or or promoting

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a radio show or a podcast or anything that you're doing.

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you're doing both at once, right, You're building your brand

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while promoting these bands, and and it sounds like it's

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it sounds like it's working for you. Do you have

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like do you create merchandise and whatnot for for the

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rock and Redhead brand or how does that work exactly.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna happen eventually.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I just have some stickers, but eventually, as

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Speaker 6: I have been asked to make hoodies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people want you know, little knickknacks, patches and stuff

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like that. So yeah, it's definitely in the works. And

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thing that I do the most of that. I really

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it's my passion. Okay, So I definitely do want to

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get into doing merch. I'm just not quite there yet. Yeah,

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but yeah, it's basically just throwing throwing my name out

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as much as I can and with it the bands

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that that get the support. Just yesterday, I was in

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a fast food chain and I was wearing my four

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feet out hoodies. What's that hoodie represent? And I was like, Oh,

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this is a band right out of Brunswick, Maine. Next

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thing you know, she's looking them up and there they

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gained another fan.

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Speaker 6: So and I do that everywhere I go.

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Speaker 5: The role of merch in the music industry, uh, in general,

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it's it's one of the sort of dependable revenue streams, right,

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somebody local just starting out, or whether we're talking about

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a national touring act, because you know, you look at

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other revenue streams. So streaming has has made it very

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difficult to make any money off of the music itself.

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I mean it's it's it's so little, even for major artists.

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In some cases, it's so little money. It's it's almost

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not not not worth depositing the check.

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Speaker 3: And touring too, like everything's you know, the price gouging

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is just disgusting, right, Oh yeah, with everything.

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Speaker 5: Tour touring has become cost prohibitive and even for some

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for some.

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Speaker 3: Artists, the merch is really the only way that they

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can make the most of their revenue.

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Speaker 5: Now exactly exactly. So that's so it's so important. And

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it's funny though, I remember years ago saying, well, I

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kind of I guess I predicted the way things would

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go a little bit incorrectly because I remember thinking, Okay,

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there will always be money. See, I thought the merch

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part was going to go away, and I'll tell you why.

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So I thought, well, you'll always be able to sell tickets.

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You'll always be able to sell live tickets, because that's

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one thing you can't replicate, is the live experience actually

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being there. And I don't see how, you know, even

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with virtual reality and whatever advancements we see in the

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next few years, with that, I don't see how it

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would be possible to ever replicate actually being there. So

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I thought that would be the one dependable revenue stream,

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not not foreseeing you know, what would happen to the

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touring industry in terms of costs. I thought merch would

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be a problem. And the reason I thought so would

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be because of three D printers. I thought. When we

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first started hearing about three D printing, I remember saying

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because prior to that, I had always said, like when

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because I was working for a national retail chain of

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music chain.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I worked for Strawberries, which eventually became f Ye and everything,

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And I remember when Napster came in and it was like, oh, okay,

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so music is free now and at that time, I said, well,

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we'll always have merch because at least you can't download

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a T shirt. And then we started hearing about three

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D printers and I said, uh, oh, you're going to

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be able to download a T shirt. But it hasn't

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that that hasn't panned out that way. So so now

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actually because again it's so hard to make because the

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profit margins are so thin with touring and and uh

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and if you're a national act, you know Ticketmaster Live Nation,

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I should say I guess to be more precise, they

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take so much money. So so it really is in

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the merch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah. They make most of their revenue

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with that. So it's really important to be selling the

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merch out there. And one of the things that I

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run into a lot too. You know, bands will often

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run the merch themselves, and you know they'll miss a

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lot of their revenue when fans are coming back and

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forth and you know they're tearing down that first fifteen

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minutes while you're tearing down your set. So crucial, Yes,

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merch sales, yes, and there's nobody at the table to

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sell the stuff.

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Speaker 5: That's a great point.

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Speaker 3: That's that's where I step in and I want to

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make sure I'm there to get out of the merch

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soul at the times when the band is busy. Yeah,

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and a couple of the band's two four feet out

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lone Wolf James, I actually kind of work as a

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personal assistant. I do everything and anything for these guys. Yeah,

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you know, they need their their drinks filled up in

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the middle of the set, or sweat rags whatever at

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the end of the night.

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Speaker 6: Come on up, your rocking redhead's got y.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, you just set because a lot of music

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industry people listen to the show and you just made

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a great point though about with the merch that first

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fifteen minutes and how crucial that is because you know,

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you like anything any kind of you know, you got

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to strike while the iron is hot. Somebody they've just

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seen your set, they're enthralled. They're like, that's when they're thinking, Oh,

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I'm gonna buy a T shirt, or'm gona buy hoodie,

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or I gotta get something from I gonna buy their

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CD if they have physical media, which not all bands do,

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but that's when they're thinking about it. And if you

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if you wait for that to cool off, then they

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might think, yeah, you know I wasn't gonna get something,

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but maybe i'll I'm just gonna spend this money on

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another drink, and some.

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Speaker 3: People want to scoot out and beat the traffic, don't

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want to wait around.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So that's a that's a great point

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that you bring up about the importance of making those

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sales right away, and if you don't have a dedicated

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merch person, you are in a very tough spot because

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especially if if you're not the headliner and you've got

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another band waiting to go on, because I I don't

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I don't actively play anymore, but I've I've played in

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a lot of bands at one time. And you know,

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so anybody who's who's done that knows the pressure of

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you finish your set, you've got another band waiting to

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come on, you want to get off that stage as

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quickly as possible so they can, you know, unless you're

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a jerk, which I encountered that a few times. But

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most musicians are good people. But every once in a

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while you encounter somebody who's a little bit of a

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slow poke getting off the stage, and then you want

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to choke them.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm thinking of some specific stories that I'm

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not going to tell on the air about the people

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I wanted to strangle, but well, yes, yes, but uh

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but yeah, so if you don't have a dedicated merch person,

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yeah you are. You're losing revenue because you got to

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get off the stage. You can't be unless you're the

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lead singer, and you're not gonna help anyway.

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Speaker 5: You know, there are.

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Speaker 6: Those situations to that that happens to.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's like, well, I could carry this amp,

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but I don't really want to because I'm a singer.

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Speaker 6: Somebody else will get.

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Speaker 5: It right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, but no, but that's

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that's a great point that you make. I want I

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want to stay on that for a moment too, because

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I'm curious, are there other mistakes that you see that

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you see bands make, uh, when it comes to merch

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or anything really with the live performance and that whole aspect,

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because again, it is it's sales. Whether anyone likes it

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or not, sales is a part of it. Like, are

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there other mistakes that you see bands make for solo

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artists or anybody?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd call them mistakes. I think

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everybody has their own kind of method and way of

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doing things. One thing that I do see that just

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kind of makes me scratch my head is again going

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back to the pricing price gouging. It happens more at

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a national level than locals, but I'll see the locals

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doing it a lot too. They're charging national prices for

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their T shirts and stuff. I mean, I understand, you've

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got to make your profit and the money's going out otherwise,

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but there's pretty low, pretty high profit margin on T shirts. Yeah,

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you know, yeah, so to be selling them for forty

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five to fifty dollars just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 5: One of the great challenges with that, in my experience,

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is trying to figure out how much how much profit

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should we really realistically be trying to shoot for, or

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should we be trying to shoot for any should we

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be trying to break even? Because you know, we're we're

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trying to promote, We're not trying to make money on

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this merch. Yet, We're not yet at that level where

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we can make money on the merch. We're at a

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level where we can use the merch to try to

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promote the band, but not exposure, not expect any money.

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Or are we even still at the level where we're

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not even going to break even on the merch. We

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just want to but we want to get that T

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shirt on you if we can, so maybe we'll take

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a loss. It's an investment. We're building a business. Again.

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They don't want to think of it. They don't want

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to think of the building the business part. That's a

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bad phrase to a lot of musicians. But that is

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what you're doing.

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Speaker 6: It is what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's very tricky.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And that's a very good point too that you bring

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up about. You know, sometimes you're giving the product away.

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I see a lot of bands often will do just

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that and just hand out their T shirts like here

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have a free T shirt.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: You know, I hand out my stick for free. I'll

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you know, every once in a while somebody will pay

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me a dollar for them. I'm like, okay, great, thanks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, I hand it out like this

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is me, get me out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look at what I'm you know, look at all the

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bands I'm promoting and what we're doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're making waves.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And it also depends on what your priorities are,

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because I'll act that's true. Obviously a lot of bands

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they're not Some bands aren't interested in building a business.

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Some bands are just they're just doing it for fun.

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Maybe maybe you've got a band member who has a

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super high paying job who's willing to put some money

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down to get these T shirts made, and they don't care.

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This is just a hobby to them. They don't care.

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They're just whatever. You know, we're just having fun anyway,

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you know. So you know, so you've also got that aspect.

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Speaker 6: But definitely see my fair share of that too.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, And there's nothing wrong with that. No,

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not a thing wrong with that.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, everybody kind of has their own method

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and their own way of doing things, and people are

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in it for different reasons, as you were just saying

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as well.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, absolutely. I assume the bands that you

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tend to work with or are bands that that are

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not thinking that way, but rather they're thinking they want

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to you know, they're trying to get somewhere with this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, most of them.

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Speaker 3: I do work with a couple of bands that are

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that are kind of in it for funzies and just

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doing stuff. But we all love playing and I think

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that's that's what it boils down to, is we're just

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in it for the musicianship and the camaraderie and yeah, yeah,

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I just love it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. What are you a musician yourself? Do you play?

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Speaker 6: I'm not.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not.

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Speaker 6: I always wanted to be, but I just couldn't find

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the right skill.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, like I said, I found a way to morph

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the skills that I do have into and bring it

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into the music business.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Are there are there certain bands that you've

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been that you've associated with them, that you've helped to

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have who have kind of, I don't know, gone to

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the next level or just really kind of kind of

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broken through it a big way, because we should talk

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about some of those. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, well, First and foremost, I want to give a

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shout out to the first band that we played at

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the top of the hour, four Feet Out. Those guys

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are my brothers. I've known them for over half my

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lifetime and they've been jamming together. The three of them

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have been jamming for like ten years, maybe a little

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more as four Feet Out they've been together for about

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five or six years now.

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Speaker 5: So they're a three piece. Yes, I'm always impressed when

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you've got a three piece that has like a big

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sound they've got a big sound.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Oh, they've got a really big sound. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They don't really fall into their own genre, which I

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really like. We kind of refer to it as like

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your psychedelic stoner hard rocker.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of thee from Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but those guys kind of gave me my start

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doing what I'm doing. I started as their merch girl

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00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:44,960
five years ago. Yeah, a little less than that actually

477
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,920
because of COVID. But as soon as COVID let us

478
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,039
get back out there, we were, we were hitting the storm.

479
00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:52,599
And they've got a pretty good following right now. You

480
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:56,440
can find them on YouTube and on Facebook. So they've

481
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,200
got they got a gig coming up in Turner.

482
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 6: I believe.

483
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,079
Speaker 5: Is that in Is that Maine?

484
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,759
Speaker 6: Turn Turner, Maine? That's right, thank you, I forgot where

485
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:07,119
I'm at.

486
00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:09,599
Speaker 5: So they're from Maine.

487
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,519
Speaker 6: They are from Brunswick, Maine.

488
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

489
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: We also I want to give a shout out for

490
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,359
dark Rain. Dark Rain also, as you mentioned, I I

491
00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:20,319
roll around with them for quite a while doing some

492
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,480
merch and those guys make waves. They're they're just out

493
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:26,519
playing anywhere and everywhere they can good and I love

494
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:31,039
that for them. Yeah, Lethal Creed They are also a

495
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:34,960
three piece that that they are from Newfield, Maine.

496
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,039
Speaker 5: Newfield. Where's Newfield? I don't even know where that.

497
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: Is, literally right on the border of New Hampshire, it is,

498
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,119
kidding Rochester Oh okay, Yeah, it's right up by Rochester.

499
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 5: Okay.

500
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: But they are also a three piece and they are

501
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,880
made up of a grandfather, father, and son, no kidding.

502
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,319
Speaker 6: And they are incredible.

503
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,039
Speaker 3: If you're in the thrash metal and you really like

504
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:02,240
getting into the hardcore headbanging, Lethal Creed is definitely your band. Okay,

505
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:05,359
they've been jamming, not as the piece that they are now,

506
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,480
but they've been a band since nineteen eighty seven, no kidding,

507
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,119
and they just carried the name right along and now

508
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,920
it's the father, grandfather and son.

509
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: Oh that's fascinating. We got to get them on.

510
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:19,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely recommend them there. They're solid group of

511
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:22,559
people to now and musician musically.

512
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,759
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

513
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 3: Paradise is canceled. Those guys. I don't know if you've

514
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,519
heard about them.

515
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,839
Speaker 5: I have. Did we have them? Jenny, Paradise is canceled.

516
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,559
Did we have them on the show? The names, the

517
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,680
name's super familiar.

518
00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're out of Biteford, Maine.

519
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 5: It becomes a blur. We've been doing this a lot, No.

520
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,599
Speaker 3: I understand. Yeah, that's my thing. I had to ds

521
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:42,599
some names down for the exact reason.

522
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

523
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also have Burning Time on my list. Those

524
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,440
guys are really making waves out there right now. Okay,

525
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,440
And actually, speaking of Burning Time and Paradise is canceled tonight.

526
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:57,279
They are both playing a show at the Palladium, which

527
00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:02,000
is super exciting to have our main boys down there. Yeah, Palladium,

528
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,200
So I think I'm probably gonna brave the weather and

529
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720
scoot down there after I'm done up here with you guys.

530
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,279
Speaker 6: Who are they check them out?

531
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 5: Who are they playing with?

532
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: They are playing with a cursed death's hand. And I

533
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:16,039
believe Scarecrow Hill.

534
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,319
Speaker 5: Oh, Scarecrow Hill.

535
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 6: I'm actually unfamiliar with them.

536
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 5: We had we had Scarecrow Hill on the show. Maybe again,

537
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,119
it becomes a blurb maybe three months ago, right, Yeah.

538
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,440
I love those guys. Yeah, that was that was great.

539
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,160
We had a we had a great discussion with them,

540
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,000
and I love their sound.

541
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm super excited to check it out.

542
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 5: Is that the headliner, Scarecrow Yeah?

543
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:35,279
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, those are the headliners?

544
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know two six one Main Street, Worcester,

545
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:41,119
mass at the Palladium tonight.

546
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

547
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna rock hard on that one for sure.

548
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:45,799
Very don't let the the weather's clearing up, so.

549
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, by that it'll be fine.

550
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't let that stop you come on out and

551
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,480
rock out with us tonight. Yeah, the rock and Redhead's

552
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,799
there with stickers yep, yeap Diamond's Edge. I think you

553
00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:59,640
have a song of their's queued up here too, don't you.

554
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, play that a minute.

555
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah they are.

556
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,759
Speaker 3: They are the wicked friendly band from New Hampshire and

557
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:09,279
they are just that. They are amazing people inside and out.

558
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:12,720
Also three piece, yes, yes, also I love these three

559
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,200
pieces because you get so much sound out of them yep,

560
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,240
and you never even really know it, but they're just

561
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:17,799
rocking it.

562
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,319
Speaker 5: Yeah.

563
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I love Trish, she's amazing.

564
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, we saw I think they were the opening band

565
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,279
ats Swarmy Fest. Yeah and yeah, I think that's right.

566
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:27,119
Very impressed.

567
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,039
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Midnight Positions making waves out there, and man,

568
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:34,440
I'm not entirely sure where me and they're based out of,

569
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,200
but I've seen them a couple few times and they're

570
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:39,559
just the crowd reaction every time I see them is

571
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:40,279
pretty insane.

572
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, signal to noise.

573
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,359
Speaker 3: Those guys are making waves that they actually just landed

574
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:47,880
a tour with Tantric I believe, going across the country.

575
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,759
Speaker 5: Oh very cool.

576
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're excited for them.

577
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to find perspective in here.

578
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,079
Speaker 5: Uh.

579
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,079
Speaker 6: Fifth Freedom you've mentioned a couple of times.

580
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, is in the chat room, actually, says referring to

581
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:05,240
our conversation. Some bands are just trying to get some

582
00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:08,880
music uploaded or play for friends, not everyone on iTunes.

583
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,359
That's trying to play live. That's true, that's true.

584
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: That is true.

585
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,079
Speaker 5: Yeah.

586
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I also have Black Orange. They went on a

587
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,599
little hiatus for a little while there, but I think

588
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,599
they're coming back. I've seen some promotion, some promo pictures

589
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,599
and stuff on online in the last few days.

590
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: So that's a that's a cool name, Black Orange.

591
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 6: I love it. I love it.

592
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: Their logos are usually pretty graphic and really pretty cool

593
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:30,640
looking too.

594
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

595
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 6: Oh they're cool. Yeah. And Sonic Bomb.

596
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: I recently caught a caught a show of theirs that

597
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:45,960
was in Bideford. They're Massachusetts based band, I believe, but uh,

598
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:49,559
I saw them up in Maine and it's fronted by

599
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:52,240
a female who's got one heck of a power voice. Yeah,

600
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:56,440
she's incredible and the energy to like just falls to

601
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,880
the wall. Yeah yeah all the way.

602
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,759
Speaker 6: I love that.

603
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,279
Speaker 5: Well, very cool. Well we were talking about them. Let's

604
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,559
give this a spin. So this is a track called Speak

605
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,720
and this is Diamond Dead. And where are they from?

606
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,319
Speaker 6: They are from New Hampshire.

607
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure exactly what part of New Hampshire,

608
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,640
but I know they're from New Hampshire.

609
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 5: Oh, very cool. Yeah, let's give this a spin and

610
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,279
then we'll come back and we'll chat some more. We

611
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,880
have Echo, Ray the Rock and Redhead here with us

612
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,480
in studio.

613
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: Speak Deil Mountain, speekl.

614
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:34,519
Speaker 4: Mountain, Sweet Mountain.

615
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,079
Speaker 9: Now you're here for a reason.

616
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,279
Speaker 5: Un don't let time run out.

617
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: Region sign Now it's your season.

618
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,279
Speaker 6: What are you really?

619
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Fell out? As an inner man who knows is worth?

620
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,599
Speaker 4: Come on and let it out.

621
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 6: Look alive. Now it's your word.

622
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:23,559
Speaker 2: Shut, speak to your master, tell me where to go.

623
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: Speak?

624
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,559
Speaker 2: So the problem, don't you know?

625
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 6: Speak to your mountain.

626
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: Word's come true when you believe. Speak to your mountains.

627
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:52,559
Oh and cast it into the season. Want your eyes now,

628
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,880
your eyes on the windows to your very soul.

629
00:31:58,079 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: What's your ears now?

630
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,599
Speaker 2: What do you hear your like PRISSI down so long?

631
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,319
What would you say?

632
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:09,319
Speaker 6: Your words tell your future son't make them good?

633
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:12,119
Speaker 2: Hand aloud like your voice.

634
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 6: Now, run to your giant as shure.

635
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:25,319
Speaker 2: Speak to your mountain, tell it where to go. Speaks

636
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:33,440
to the problem, don't you know? Speak to real mountain

637
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:35,119
words going through?

638
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 6: When you and me.

639
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: Speaks real mountain and cast it into the sea.

640
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:22,599
Speaker 6: You you'll lie within.

641
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:33,799
Speaker 2: You make the time to lessen the lie, for in

642
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:40,559
the power of the dog. So speak, lie and live.

643
00:33:47,680 --> 00:34:02,640
Speak to real mountain. Speak to real mountain. Speak to

644
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:11,079
your mountain. Let's that speaker your mountain, speak for your father.

645
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:21,719
Tell that to go, tell it to go. Speak to

646
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:22,760
you about it.

647
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:25,679
Speaker 6: Tell me where no.

648
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,639
Speaker 4: Me to the problem. Don't you know.

649
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:34,119
Speaker 10: Me?

650
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 6: So your mountain.

651
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:42,639
Speaker 2: Were't going through? When you believe, speak to your mountain,

652
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:46,480
cast it.

653
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 6: Into the sea.

654
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: Just get into the city.

655
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 9: Sleep.

656
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 5: What that is called speak? The band is Diamond Edge

657
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,000
And you are listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed, and we

658
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,800
are live from these studios of w M n H

659
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,719
ninety five point three FM, Inglorious, Manchester, New Hampshire, and

660
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,119
if you are listening live on Saturday morning, please be

661
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,920
traveling safely. If you are traveling, it sounds like the

662
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,199
snow has stopped, and who knows, maybe this afternoon it'll

663
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,599
all just melt away. It'll be like it never happened.

664
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:41,360
But today is of course Saturday, April twelve, twenty twenty five,

665
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,199
and we're talking with the rock and redhead Echo Ray

666
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,280
is here with us live in studio, and so I'm curious, like,

667
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:53,400
do you have any do you have like a like aa.

668
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,800
It's probably like trying to choose between one of your kids, right,

669
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,880
but do you have any any particular favorite that you're

670
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,679
really passionate about as far as these bands.

671
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 6: That you work with, it is like trying to choose

672
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,480
my kids. That's that's not that.

673
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

674
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, you know, this year, especially,

675
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,079
my calendar has been blowing up. I'm already booked all

676
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:18,159
the way in through October. Yeah, and I have a

677
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:20,239
couple of plan a couple of shows planned in the

678
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,039
winter as well.

679
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:21,559
Speaker 5: Yeah.

680
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:26,639
Speaker 3: And I'm finding a lot of double bookings, so you know,

681
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,559
I get booked in with one band and then I

682
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:30,599
get another band that says, hey, we need you on

683
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,880
this date, and I'm already booked somewhere, and it's where

684
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,119
you gotta you know, I I literally have to choose

685
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:38,840
and pick between which one. I had this conversation with

686
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,800
somebody the other day and I say, you know, it's

687
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,360
not always very black and white. Sometimes it's about the

688
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,000
family you're born with versus the family you're married into.

689
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,599
Speaker 5: Right, I love you both.

690
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:50,519
Speaker 3: I don't know how to choose which one. Yeah, you know,

691
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,039
Lone Wolf James is playing a lot of national shows now.

692
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,880
They're they're making some huge waves out there with some

693
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:56,880
really big names.

694
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 5: Excellent.

695
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: But then I've got four Feet Out, who does a

696
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,360
lot of like barbecue and local kind of events and stuff.

697
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,320
But those are all really close to home. They're they're

698
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920
like family reunions. Yeah, you know, so it's hard. Do

699
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,760
I want to go to a big Lone Wolf James

700
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,840
national show or am I going to a to a

701
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,360
local family barbecue with four Feet Out? Yeah, but you know,

702
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,360
I'm trying to balance it out. I'm actually trying to

703
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,760
work to the point where I might be able to

704
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,519
get an assistant or somebody to kind of help me

705
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:27,440
out a little bit, somebody that I can hire to

706
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:30,480
go to extra shows. When I'm not available to run

707
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:34,039
a show, they can run it for me. But I'm

708
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,840
kind of working through the business politics of everything and

709
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,480
trying to get like like an actual business plan down.

710
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,679
This has gone a lot farther than I ever dreamed

711
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,039
it would, and it's just getting started.

712
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good problem.

713
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:48,599
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

714
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,039
Speaker 5: But yeah, it sounds like in the scenario you presented,

715
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:54,119
I mean really just from a business standpoint, pragmatically, you

716
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,239
would have to go with Lone Wolf Games, right as

717
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,719
far as what commitment you're going to go with, because

718
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,760
pretty much it sounds like they they need you, and

719
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:03,800
you know you're you're working with them at a critical

720
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,079
time for them, when they're starting to, like you said,

721
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,440
they're starting to open for some nationals and and really

722
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:09,119
getting out there.

723
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 6: So absolutely absolutely, And I gave him my commitment.

724
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:12,199
Speaker 11: You know.

725
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,199
Speaker 3: He told me when he brought me in that he

726
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,519
really needed somebody that was committed and that was dependable,

727
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:19,239
and I said, I'm there.

728
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 6: I'm so there for it.

729
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:20,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

730
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: I remained to that. Yeah, absolutely, I'm here for the ride. Yeah,

731
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:25,679
as far as we can take it.

732
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, where does the name Do you know where the

733
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,039
name lone Wolf James comes from? If they ever told

734
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:32,920
you that. I'm just curious because it's such a cool name.

735
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,519
Speaker 3: Well, I you know, I don't really want to give

736
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,159
the whole story away because it's not my story to tell. Okay,

737
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:41,480
but the cliff Notes version is he was just referred

738
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,360
to as there goes the lone Wolf one day.

739
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:46,199
Speaker 6: Oh really, and it just kind of stuck. And his

740
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,599
name is James as it's Gary James.

741
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 5: Oh, Gary Gery. Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

742
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,559
Speaker 6: He's a singer, he is yea and he plays guitar.

743
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, if they've been around it, I mean I

744
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,719
assume they've been around one.

745
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,639
Speaker 3: They've been around for a long time. Actually, I found

746
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,800
them roughly ten years ago or so. I think they've

747
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,360
been around a little bit longer than that. Yeah, I

748
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,519
think they have five CDs. Okay, we're working on getting

749
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,039
on a new one out very soon. Yeah, but yeah,

750
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:14,440
you can get all of that. In fact, I did

751
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,679
want to mention while I'm thinking about it here, they

752
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,960
do have a show coming up with Tim Montana on

753
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:23,880
May seventeenth at the Webster in Connecticut. Okay, so we

754
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,760
want to give away some tickets.

755
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 5: Oh, very nice.

756
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,079
Speaker 6: Yeah.

757
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: All you have to do is buy a T shirt

758
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,199
from Yours Truly, Echo, Ray the Rock and Redhead, or

759
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,920
you could get Gary James from Lone Wolf James himself.

760
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:38,320
But if you buy a T shirt between now and

761
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,119
May first, you automatically get a free ticket to the show.

762
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 5: Oh that's good, yeah, very cool.

763
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's fifteen dollars for your tip for your

764
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,559
T shirt you'll get ticket for free.

765
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,559
Speaker 5: So excellent.

766
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: You can hit me up on any of my socials Facebook,

767
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,400
Instagram and Lone Wolf James as well. You can get

768
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,840
them on Facebook, Instagram, I'm sorry. Lone Wolf James is

769
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,039
a on Instagram. They're on reverb Nation and YouTube okay

770
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:04,679
and Facebook.

771
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,039
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but.

772
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely get in, get get a T shirt, get

773
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:11,760
a free ticket for the show with Tim Montana.

774
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 6: Excellent, super excited.

775
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:15,599
Speaker 5: Oh that's very cool. And what's the data on that again?

776
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,920
May seventeenth, Okay, very good, very good. Something else I

777
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,280
wanted to ask you about, and we alluded to it earlier,

778
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,639
but physical media, you know, because you work with merch

779
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,400
this is this is a subject that comes up on

780
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,320
the show a lot, because a lot of artists now,

781
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,760
at least that we've interviewed, there seems to be obviously

782
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,039
it never went away, but there seems to be kind

783
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:43,760
of a newfound commitment to releasing things on CD and

784
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,639
in some cases even vinyl. I know vinyl is expensive

785
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,079
to produce, but we've had a lot of artists too,

786
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:50,559
a lot of guests who you know, they'll bring us

787
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:52,719
a vinyl record and it's like, wow, we even't have

788
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,840
a CD player now. It's it belongs to I mean

789
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:58,079
a DVD. Geez, I can't even say it were a

790
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:01,000
record player there it is. We actually have a record

791
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:03,719
player now in the studio that belongs to one of

792
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,199
the guys who does a show here, who brought it

793
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,079
in for anybody wh wants to use it. I haven't

794
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,079
used it yet. Well, we do have a functioning CD

795
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:11,440
player here too that I never used, but one of

796
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,000
the other guys uses. But but like, do you have

797
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,199
any thoughts on that, Like do you think it's worth

798
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,920
it for you know, because part of the calculus just

799
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:24,239
like just like there's some business calculus with what do

800
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,519
we do with these T shirts in terms of pricing

801
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:27,960
and are we trying to make money? Are we not.

802
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:32,599
What about physical media? You know, Uh, do like do

803
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,360
most of the artists you work with, you they actually

804
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,039
release physical CDs?

805
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 6: A lot of them do.

806
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, at this level that you know, it's it's

807
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,519
nice to have that, not not just at this level,

808
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:44,920
but it's nice to actually have that physical Yes, you

809
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,760
can have something to play in the CD player in

810
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,880
the car or whatever. A lot of fans, myself included,

811
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:51,599
Like I said, I'm a super fan. I just like

812
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:53,679
to have it just to have it, yes, just as

813
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:54,599
a collectible item.

814
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,079
Speaker 5: Yeah.

815
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: And I do see a lot of people will buy

816
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,760
them just to have them, especially you know, if you're

817
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,599
if you're there to see the band, you'll you'll buy

818
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,679
what they have to sell, you know. It's it's just

819
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,760
the market that you're selling it to. Yeah, So I

820
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:09,960
do see a lot of that, and I have you

821
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:11,880
You made a point about the records too. Those are

822
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:12,760
making a comeback.

823
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:13,679
Speaker 6: Yeah.

824
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,079
Speaker 3: I think they're probably a lot more expensive to reproduce though,

825
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:17,440
aren't they.

826
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, from what I understand, it's very expensive, uh to

827
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,880
do vinyl. But but a lot of our guests are

828
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,440
doing it. And I think with vinyl, to my theory

829
00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:29,079
is most most people who purchase vinyl, probably never actually

830
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,599
open it. Yeah, they just they just want to support

831
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:34,639
that artist, and it's cool to you know, if you

832
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:36,599
don't have a record player, you know, mount it on

833
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,800
your wall or something. Yeah, or they open it so

834
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,320
they can look at it, you know, and because as

835
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,000
usually you know, the nostalgia. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

836
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,519
But uh but then they but they never actually play it.

837
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 9: You know.

838
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 5: I don't know how many people have an actual record player,

839
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,320
but it's cool to you know, if you're really into

840
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,320
an artist, it's cool to cool to have.

841
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they sell modern record players now at Walmart.

842
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,079
Oh yeah, forty five fifty bucks.

843
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that's probably where that one came from.

844
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 9: Yeah.

845
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, I think it's interesting, you know, the

846
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:11,199
decisions that go into whether to do because there was

847
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,199
a trend. You know, like if I think about I've

848
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:14,760
been doing this a long time, and if I think

849
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:20,639
ten years ago, probably a pretty safe bet. Most of

850
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,039
the artists maybe maybe less than ten years ago, but

851
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,199
most of the guests at that time that I had

852
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,239
on the show were kind of like, eh, no, we're

853
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,280
just putting stuff online. We're not we're not doing CDs.

854
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,719
Who does CDs anymore, right, But but I also remember

855
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,679
when I first I've talked about this on the show too,

856
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:39,800
when I very early on in my days of interviewing bands.

857
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,280
Sometimes they would before I was even doing this on

858
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,320
FM radio, when I was just doing it as a podcast,

859
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:49,280
like they'd show up with when they were still doing CDs,

860
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,519
and they this was before people got super comfortable with,

861
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:55,480
you know, just using Dropbox or Google Drive or whatever

862
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:58,920
to send files. Guess would show up with a CD.

863
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:01,400
But there was this is the old uh put the

864
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,639
CD on the finger, you know what I mean? Like, oh, here,

865
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,920
well here, I don't know how many times that happened,

866
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,840
like here, man, here's here's here's our music, you know.

867
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:12,239
And it's not even in a case it's a CD

868
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,559
on the finger that they're.

869
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 6: Trading the envelope for it.

870
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:18,079
Speaker 5: No, no, that would that would happen. That would happen.

871
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,360
Here here it's on my finger, and now we're going

872
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,639
to transfer the CD to your finger. Here you go due,

873
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,440
you know. And it's like and of course now everyone

874
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:29,239
just emails the files to us, but but uh, yeah,

875
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,400
it's it's interesting how technology changes and attitudes about technology changes.

876
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:36,639
Oh yeah, and I think it was. I think it

877
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,800
was twenty twenty two. If I'm not mistaken. Somebody in

878
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,280
the chat room can correct me if if you know,

879
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,239
maybe if I have the wrong year, But I think

880
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,800
it was twenty twenty two. Was the first year that

881
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,920
Vinyl actually outsold CDs because Vinyl has had such a resurgence. Yeah,

882
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,440
and Vinyl never went away.

883
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 6: But I didn't hear that. That's that's crazy.

884
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,119
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, Vinyl's actually But like I said, I

885
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:02,159
think most people who open who buy Vinyl don't never

886
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,159
even open it. But but but so most of the

887
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,880
artists you work with at this point, they are doing

888
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,519
physical CDs. Yeah, yeah, do any of them ever sell cassettes?

889
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 6: Oh, that's a good one I have. I think hmm,

890
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,480
I think I've seen one band that's that's come up

891
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:23,719
with with cassettes.

892
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just curious because I hadn't experienced. I think

893
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,440
it was six or seven years ago. I was on

894
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:34,239
band camp dot com and all of a sudden I

895
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,559
started encountering I was I was looking for new new

896
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,800
artists from the area, and I was encountering these uh

897
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,719
new Hampshire artists who were releasing cassettes and the first

898
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,800
one that I found. They were like just this, you know,

899
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,639
sort of indie pop band, and I was like, oh

900
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,000
my god, they have a cassette and I thought it

901
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:53,840
was a fluke and I thought, oh, they just thought

902
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,400
it would be funny to do that. Whatever, it's just

903
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,360
a gimmick. And then I found more and I kept

904
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,280
finding more and I was like, oh my god, odd

905
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,679
this is real, Like there's there's There was this resurgence

906
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,920
and I don't think it lasted very long. I think

907
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,360
it was a but there was this sort of nostalgic

908
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,280
resurgence of cassettes and I was like, I guess some

909
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,840
people like tape Hiss, I don't know.

910
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,519
Speaker 6: Slip Not dropped a cassette with their last album too.

911
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that. No kidding, I'll be damned, I'll

912
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,920
be damned. Yeah, it's wild. It's funny because I used

913
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,960
to play in a band called the Jinx, and we

914
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:24,719
used to it was a running joke in the band

915
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,360
that we were going to release a a single that's funny,

916
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,000
and we never did. But fast forward a few years

917
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:34,559
and it actually might have It might have worked. But yeah,

918
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,400
what's what's like the the are there any merch items

919
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,400
you've seen that are just really unusual where you go. Really, guys,

920
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:44,119
you're you're selling I don't know, like Frisbees or something.

921
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,599
Speaker 3: Um, goodness, I can't think of any off the top

922
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:51,119
of my head. I'm sure there's been some some random

923
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:55,280
items out there for sure. Yeah, I know, I have

924
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,320
a keychain from from four Feet Out bottle opener keychain. Yeah,

925
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,320
we love those classic seller. Yeah, these bracelets actually are

926
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:08,559
huge sellers. Okay, but no matter who I'm who I'm

927
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:12,960
working with. Actually, we're I just convinced four feet Out

928
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,159
we're getting some with them. Those guys too, so excited

929
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:21,360
to get those in. Oh you know, I saw somebody

930
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:29,360
was I was selling autographed stage worn bandanas really and

931
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,360
I don't know why, but I'm totally here for that,

932
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,519
Like as a super fan, I would totally get something

933
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:39,199
like that. Sure, So yeah, that's that's probably one of

934
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,199
the most obscene of well not obscene but awkward things

935
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:42,920
I think I've seen.

936
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,159
Speaker 6: Bandana. Yeah, yeah, no, I see a lot of it

937
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,559
out there. It's hard to keep it all.

938
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, no doubt. What's what's the most critical

939
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:56,559
thing to have, Like if if a band, if they

940
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,320
have a very tight budget for merch. Is is a

941
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:59,840
T shirt?

942
00:47:59,920 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 10: Is?

943
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:01,199
Speaker 5: Is that the most critical thing to have?

944
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: I would say, I would say T shirts and or

945
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,440
maybe do something like a like a small postcard. You

946
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:09,559
want to have something that's not quite as high price.

947
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:11,280
You want to have a lower price thing too, because

948
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,039
you're not going to get somebody that's gonna not everybody's

949
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going to want to put down the full price for

950
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,239
the T shirt. You're going to want some smaller ticketed

951
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,079
items too. So that's why I like selling the bracelets.

952
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:24,079
These bracelets are easy for people. You know, kids come up,

953
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,000
they just you know, kids actually usually get bracelets for

954
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free because.

955
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Speaker 6: I'm like that, Oh really yeah yeah sometimes depends.

956
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:34,079
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, oh that's that's very cool.

957
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 6: We like to help the kids out, support the future

958
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,159
of the local music.

959
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely absolute. Where should uh? Where should people go

960
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,719
online who want to connect with you, want to learn

961
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,480
from you, want to work with you, whatever? Whatever? Like

962
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:50,360
what what's what's the best way for people to reach you?

963
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: So my primary page is Facebook, It's just Echo Ray Straight.

964
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,840
I do have a business page that's Echo Ray the

965
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,519
Rock and Redhead, and you can find my happenings on

966
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:04,039
both of those pages. I am also on Instagram that

967
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:11,119
is Echo dot Ray Dot Rockinred and that page pretty

968
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:15,039
much mirrors my Facebook page. Working on boosting out a

969
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:16,760
little bit more. I don't know if I'm going to

970
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,320
go into snap or X or any of that stuff.

971
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,719
I'm just kind of trying to get my feet wet

972
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,480
with what I have right now, because it's still very overwhelming.

973
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:28,760
But that's primarily where I'm at right now with the

974
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:36,559
Instagram and Facebook and just out and about supporting your

975
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,320
local bands. That's where it's at. You know, go out

976
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,760
to the local, go out to the local gigs only

977
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,599
you can prevent empty venues.

978
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 5: There you go, There you go, and do you want

979
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,800
to for people listening live? Do you want to plug again?

980
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,840
What's happening tonight?

981
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,519
Speaker 3: Yes, tonight you can catch your favorite rock and redhead.

982
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,440
That's me down at the Pollidium. I'm going down in

983
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:59,159
support of a couple of my favorite main bands. Paradise

984
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,039
is Canceled and Burning Time are going to be playing

985
00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:06,559
with a Cursed and Death's Hand, as well as Scarecrow

986
00:50:06,639 --> 00:50:12,639
Hill headlining the Palladium two six' one Main Street in Worcester,

987
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,760
mass and also Don't Want You to forget. If you

988
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,119
buy a Lone Wolf James T shirt from either myself

989
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:24,599
or Gary James online between now and May first, you

990
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,840
automatically get a free ticket for the May seventeenth show

991
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:32,039
with Tim Montana and that is going to be at

992
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the Webster in Hartford, Connecticut.

993
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:38,039
Speaker 5: Oh, very good, outstanding, outstanding. Well, we encourage people to

994
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:43,000
do that and echo. This has been fascinating and very

995
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,320
very enlightening. And I learned some things about merch that

996
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:49,880
I didn't know, so that's very cool. And we will

997
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,079
end the segment with this track Cradle to Grave from

998
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:55,679
Lone Wolf James. And like I said, we saw them

999
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,920
live and we were very impressed. So so very cool.

1000
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,719
Glad think glad good things are happening for them.

1001
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 6: You absolutely thank you.

1002
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:04,039
Speaker 5: We will do this again in the future. And if

1003
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:07,159
you are listening live on Saturday, Jesse Rutstein is coming

1004
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,159
up next and the third hour. Can't wait for that.

1005
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,199
But here it is. This is called Cradle to Grave,

1006
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:40,920
and this is Lone Wolf James, your story.

1007
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: Walking to someone who kids, save.

1008
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 10: Your preaching, your rock, go adoptees.

1009
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: Willing to roll the slave.

1010
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not the world.

1011
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 11: You need to say.

1012
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 4: So keep it, my man, never change.

1013
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: From cradle dray.

1014
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:34,079
Speaker 5: You know your knees.

1015
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: It's nothing to me.

1016
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 7: So see you're heaven in hell for the wishing well.

1017
00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: You you know my.

1018
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,039
Speaker 4: Time?

1019
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 5: Well we slay.

1020
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:06,639
Speaker 4: Man, you need to saying, think you bla.

1021
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 11: Some from cret.

1022
00:54:51,000 --> 00:55:18,199
Speaker 2: My way, the fa black from.

1023
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: Yo's april.

1024
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: Where's the sun as it?

1025
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 7: Day's supposed to boom flowers?

1026
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 5: But the snow on the way.

1027
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,159
Speaker 7: Manchester feeling like the North Pole zone.

1028
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 5: I'm out hearing buff lash.

1029
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 7: Of rock alone snow shipping the springtone Miles, I sung

1030
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:57,679
a black life lingers say styles. People should be won,

1031
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,840
but I'm bundled instead. Come on you, s why isn't

1032
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,760
messing with my head?

1033
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: I'll put a shovel away.

1034
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,199
Speaker 7: I thought I'd seen the last flake. Now I'm now

1035
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:14,719
here again, cooning pass. I can't say win a chill

1036
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,840
pulling Franks playing out of season?

1037
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 5: What's going on up there?

1038
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: Whether gotten no reason?

1039
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 7: So stripping the spring gone wild? I saw my black

1040
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:28,079
life wringers ey Stiles. People should be won, but I'm

1041
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:31,760
bundled instead. Come on you says it messing with my head.

1042
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,639
Sun's on vacation and Cloud's taking charge. Driving here ring

1043
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,960
the snowman. That's a sabotage. Those guy's a hostage by

1044
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:40,760
frosty spring mother nature.

1045
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 6: What's this joke you're pulling on me?

1046
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:44,079
Speaker 5: Dream of barbecues?

1047
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: Now I'm stuck with this view.

1048
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 5: I'm be coding gloves man, how about you?

1049
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 7: I want to see green grass and forget the bleak slaves,

1050
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,719
but the sells crashing all my springtime dates.

1051
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