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Speaker 4: And that does bring us to tonight's guests. And his
Speaker 4: name's Jordan and he's joining us from Wisconsin. Jordan, how
Speaker 4: are you doing today, Buddy?
Speaker 1: I no great, George, are you doing well? Good?
Speaker 4: And I'm glad we worked out the technical issues and
Speaker 4: we're up and running. We're going to take off. Why
Speaker 4: don't we kick things off by introducing yourself to the audience.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, so in the short and I live
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, been there in my whole life for three
Speaker 1: years old. Grew up in Dausman is a small village,
Speaker 1: and then I worked in restaurants, many of different restaurants,
Speaker 1: subways and factories, but mainly restaurants and corrections most recently.
Speaker 1: Even more recently, I do private security. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fat. I live in a residential area and in Janesville.
Speaker 1: Got a fiance and a little two year old girl
Speaker 1: as of last month.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know a lot of my friends and family. Actually,
Speaker 4: I don't know how far you are from Green Bay,
Speaker 4: but I guess that's a big deal going on tonight there.
Speaker 1: Right, I guess it's I'm a little I'm a little naive.
Speaker 4: What's like as the NFL Draft is in green Bay tonight?
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Yeah, I guess that's a big deal, especially
Speaker 1: in green Bay. Green Bay is about I want to say,
Speaker 1: that's like north things like northwest of me or North's
Speaker 1: a couple hours. Oh okay, Mark to get the pretty
Speaker 1: cool I mean, I've worked in Wapond Corresional, which is
Speaker 1: like the sister prison to that they're both the oldest
Speaker 1: prisons in the state, so familiar with the area.
Speaker 4: So we were talking earlier about number one, the restaurant business.
Speaker 4: And again, you know, I worked with you know, the
Speaker 4: cooks in our units who work tirelessly getting up a
Speaker 4: two o'clock in the morning. The restaurant business, the chef business,
Speaker 4: is a very very hard business, working long hours. It's
Speaker 4: I guess similar to retail. It's hard work and it
Speaker 4: is something that you can get burnt out with pretty quickly,
Speaker 4: as it sounds like you did as well, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, it's uh, it's a lot of repetition
Speaker 1: and it's it's almost like you have the goal is
Speaker 1: the death of the day, and then you gotta wake
Speaker 1: up do it all over a kind of grind. But
Speaker 1: I met a lot of great people in a quite
Speaker 1: a skill set that I don't think I could have
Speaker 1: acquired anywhere else, or I could have it, just I
Speaker 1: would have had to go about a different way. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of a like a self swooped type of job.
Speaker 1: So I try to take the good with the bad.
Speaker 1: But it is brutal. It's definitely brutal.
Speaker 4: It is. And now you're doing private security. I assume
Speaker 4: it's long hours as well. It's interesting going from prisons
Speaker 4: to private security. I'm sure it's I guess it's similar
Speaker 4: but different at the same time.
Speaker 1: That's very well put. I had to also, as people
Speaker 1: do who get out of the system, I had to
Speaker 1: reintegrate in society. I didn't think that that that concept
Speaker 1: would apply to staff as well, but it most certainly does. Like,
Speaker 1: for example, sitting down in the little they are a
Speaker 1: gate guard security detail at minards. They checking it out.
Speaker 1: The guy said, coming for the yard for like all
Speaker 1: the lumber, and just sitting down there. I have a
Speaker 1: little mini radio on. I'm like, okay, there's not gonna
Speaker 1: be many fights. There's gonna be no reason for me
Speaker 1: to get up other than somebody just roll on buying
Speaker 1: a car. It may sound crazy about him, like I could.
Speaker 1: It took a couple of weeks to get over that.
Speaker 1: Just I hate being in a fixed place. It's just like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is what the public is like. Okay, it's been
Speaker 1: so long.
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Let's get a little bit into your journey
Speaker 4: to the truth. You're thirty three and you've already seen
Speaker 4: some things. Why don't you start the process of at
Speaker 4: what point in your life did you start to notice
Speaker 4: that things were not as they were told?
Speaker 1: So I I didn't. So I had this thought the
Speaker 1: other day. I'm like, when did I actually first start
Speaker 1: thinking about that? Because it got it gets buried over
Speaker 1: the years, but I think it was when I was
Speaker 1: about eight or nine years old. I will go to
Speaker 1: bed and have the hardest time sleeping because when I
Speaker 1: would shut my eyes again into like low level of sleep,
Speaker 1: I would picture just the ball like that whatever that
Speaker 1: iconic images with the NASA one from the moon, a
Speaker 1: picture of that. I'm like, just thinking of all the water.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, what's keeping in place? We could just
Speaker 1: get like just this deep horrible feeling of like depression,
Speaker 1: just not being able to sleep. And it happened for
Speaker 1: a while, dude, then it went away. But that would
Speaker 1: be the first time I would say, so it's not
Speaker 1: a part of twenty five twenty five years ago, but
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it at the time.
Speaker 4: That is interesting because I think many of us, even
Speaker 4: for some of us who just woke up, if someone
Speaker 4: woke up during the COVID era, if we take the
Speaker 4: time and reflect, I bet you that just about all
Speaker 4: of us at one point in our lives, whether it
Speaker 4: was fifth grade science class or watching PBS, we thought, man,
Speaker 4: this is is this really? What's going on? Is really
Speaker 4: water stick to a ball and those type of things.
Speaker 4: But it's funny how we dismiss it so easily and
Speaker 4: just continue.
Speaker 1: On, Yeah, you're right, it's uh yeah in Mashon Wonder
Speaker 1: And then the next fall freis one was probably like
Speaker 1: a couple years later. I had a buddy who his
Speaker 1: older brother. We were like nine or ten at the time.
Speaker 1: His older brother was just out of the Air Force,
Speaker 1: and I think his dad was as well, and he
Speaker 1: I remember balancing on a trampoline with him, and then
Speaker 1: we would just stop and just just talk about things
Speaker 1: like a break and then he mentioned how helicopter should
Speaker 1: not work at all, and I'm like what and what
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I guess, but looking back,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, his whole family believed in flattered for sure,
Speaker 1: because if it because who did he learn that from? Well,
Speaker 1: his brother and his dad, And then you don't believe
Speaker 1: that unless he know that this reality is not what
Speaker 1: it's because like those manuals he mentioned with flying alicopter yep.
Speaker 1: And that was like the second him I got at
Speaker 1: a very young age.
Speaker 4: And it's funny how our own mind, we gate keep
Speaker 4: our own mind. We we do question things, and then
Speaker 4: we just stop and just say, oh what, you know,
Speaker 4: what do we know that those guys are? They have PhDs?
Speaker 4: And who are we to question?
Speaker 1: Bill?
Speaker 4: Neither science guy?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, it's and now that that's like the narrative
Speaker 1: that I listened for. It's all the time, and it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: how did I not hear this too far? It sounds
Speaker 1: it's it's like being an observer of a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a non like watching NPCs. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to degrade anybody's into like but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I was like that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure we were all you know we had we
Speaker 4: were more into worldly things. And like I said, it
Speaker 4: is funny because when you think back, you do notice things,
Speaker 4: but you just kind of compartmentalize it and move on.
Speaker 4: Because for me, it was, you know, I'm just I'm
Speaker 4: just dumb old George. What do I know? These people
Speaker 4: have been in college and that's all they do day in,
Speaker 4: day out, So you know, who are we to question? Uh?
Speaker 4: These people? But then once the can of worms is open.
Speaker 4: It's just, uh, man, I can't believe they got us.
Speaker 4: I really can't believe.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest episode of punt ever.
Speaker 4: That's perfectly But you're looking for the cameras, right, you
Speaker 4: got me?
Speaker 1: You got me? Yeah, because there's plenty of cameras.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, So it sounds like a lot of
Speaker 4: the things that you've been questioning. Uh so flat Earth
Speaker 4: was one of your your first truths, which is very rare.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh the only thing I can think about is,
Speaker 1: uh as a common one when it was nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: because I was going through the criminal justice program at
Speaker 1: at a tech college at Walker Show, and every single
Speaker 1: teacher there was a hardcore conspiracy theorist really rightfully sold.
Speaker 1: A lot of them were not like just standard officers.
Speaker 1: There were FBI, CIA, like one guy with a major
Speaker 1: in the army and also law enforcement. So the things
Speaker 1: they were telling me is they could only say declassified things.
Speaker 1: But it like, for example, one of the intro classes,
Speaker 1: this old school guy told me that there was technology
Speaker 1: in his fifties and I think it's referring to the
Speaker 1: Blackbird or whatever jet. It could take a picture of
Speaker 1: a guy putting like on a golf course from whatever
Speaker 1: max altitude could go to at the time and count
Speaker 1: the thread of the shoes in crystal clear HD color.
Speaker 1: And if we couldn't get that out of my head
Speaker 1: the rest of the class.
Speaker 4: And this was the sixties. Yeah, wow, Yeah. Some things
Speaker 4: came to light during the Church Committee. I think that
Speaker 4: was around seventy five. That's when the FBI admitted that
Speaker 4: they had a heart attack.
Speaker 1: Gum.
Speaker 4: It was like, well, you know the shrimp whatever, and
Speaker 4: that you would shoot it, you would feel like a
Speaker 4: beasting or something, not think twice about it, and then
Speaker 4: the poison from the shellfish would just eventually, you know,
Speaker 4: make it look like you died of a heart attack.
Speaker 1: It's like a like a or like the ancient load
Speaker 1: dart guns or like a poison dark nets precisely.
Speaker 4: Yep, wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I think I forgot to make Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the nine to eleven thing. It was an
Speaker 1: intro to holemand security. I something triggered me to like
Speaker 1: look it up that night at home and that end
Speaker 1: to sleep because the YouTube at the time in twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen was.
Speaker 4: A it was wild West.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I sand By, Yeah exactly. You look up
Speaker 1: whatever you wanted. It was like, oh, look at this video,
Speaker 1: that's even deeper to have a rabbit hole. And I
Speaker 1: didn't sleep at all because I saw these two buildings
Speaker 1: burning side by well, the twin towers burning and then
Speaker 1: just being eradicated from existence. And then the other one
Speaker 1: that was like set up next to it in the
Speaker 1: video was some old, old world building just and it
Speaker 1: said they burned for like two or three days because
Speaker 1: it was hit by a plane or whatever, and like
Speaker 1: they just uh the hairs on the back in the
Speaker 1: back of my head, and I barely blinked. I barely sleeped.
Speaker 1: I mean it was I couldn't get it on my ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I can't articulate whatever it was I
Speaker 1: was thinking, but it was disturbing and shocking and shatter
Speaker 1: my world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not eleven. Truth is something that really punched you
Speaker 4: in the stomach, especially if you served the country or
Speaker 4: you know, you spend a lot of time in Iraq Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: I get emails all the time from veterans who you know,
Speaker 4: once they woke up. Yeah, obviously you start to see
Speaker 4: things over there and you question it, like we questioned
Speaker 4: the globe through our life, but we just kind of oh, well,
Speaker 4: you know, we what do we know? But then when
Speaker 4: you find out the truth about all these events, it's frustrating.
Speaker 4: It is you feel betrayed by the people who were
Speaker 4: sworn to protect you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you nailed it as the betrayal part. It's it's
Speaker 1: almost overwhelming that that that feeling when when it first
Speaker 1: hits you.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad you brought up DHS because, you know,
Speaker 4: for people who may not know, homeland security came about
Speaker 4: because of nine to eleven, and we talk about no
Speaker 4: one's going to bite the hand that feeds them. So
Speaker 4: the goal of the ruling class is to have everybody
Speaker 4: working for just a few organizations because if you don't comply,
Speaker 4: you're going to lose your money. That's the whole goal.
Speaker 4: And just DHS alone accounts for a quarter of a
Speaker 4: million jobs, so that's two hundred and fifty thousand people.
Speaker 4: And the whole creation aspect of DHS was to ensure,
Speaker 4: you know, to protect the United States against terrace. But
Speaker 4: what it has really turned into is the Gestapo. And right,
Speaker 4: it's a big brother, Right, it's nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're not kidding, because I have a younger sister,
Speaker 1: she's a thirteen even all. She's like calling me, but
Speaker 1: she went to she's going for it. I want to say,
Speaker 1: oh here airport in Milwaukee, and the TSA agent just
Speaker 1: smashed her CD and like rip the shoelaces out of
Speaker 1: her shoes and she was like in tears telling me this. Now.
Speaker 1: I was like ready to just I'm like, okay, where
Speaker 1: was this at, Like I'm going, but I had to,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to seem like a lunatic in
Speaker 1: front of my younger sister, so I just stay calm.
Speaker 1: And I looked at the policy and it's like only
Speaker 1: under a streme measure that I was supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: They had to have suspicion, like a reasonable subsicion, And
Speaker 1: like you said, Gestapo just just masses CD is like
Speaker 1: I've seen that in cell searches in the prison where
Speaker 1: he's like I'm the guy watching and then you see
Speaker 1: the other guard bent over and you picture just like
Speaker 1: the thing is being thrown behind and like they're just
Speaker 1: tossing things. It's like that's TSAK.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very frustrating. I remember being in the military,
Speaker 4: flying going through airports to deploy in uniform and the
Speaker 4: TSA telling me take off your belt, take off your boots,
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, what are we doing here? I mean, really,
Speaker 4: what are we doing here? It's just a government employee,
Speaker 4: you know, frisking another government employee on the name of
Speaker 4: our looking out for our best interest. It's just insanity. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I'll tell you this might come off a bit harsh,
Speaker 4: but if you think about it, when you give an
Speaker 4: individual a title and a badge and a little bit
Speaker 4: of power, it can go to their head.
Speaker 1: Dude. Oh they went to my head. And I mean
Speaker 1: as a correctional sergeant for a while, I was in
Speaker 1: and out of the programming, and I think that they
Speaker 1: big brother, the government or what I believe is administrative,
Speaker 1: Like they were literally watching me and like, okay, he's
Speaker 1: gonna fall in line. Okay, he's in line. And then
Speaker 1: they would watch me bobbing in and out of a
Speaker 1: cause I didn't realize, but I was struggling to actually
Speaker 1: want to go be full blown programmed and then like yes, man,
Speaker 1: because that's not me. But yeah, it went to my head.
Speaker 1: I was doing doing things that I look back on
Speaker 1: it's like, how do they not just just kill me?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, Wow, the badge, it's
Speaker 1: just a badge, it's a lill if he's a ten
Speaker 1: years it's all fake and means nothing really, But like
Speaker 1: you said, it goes to your head one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really does. And there are thousands of videos
Speaker 4: out there about people who are putting in positions of
Speaker 4: authority who abuse it, and then you, as the victim,
Speaker 4: you're the one who has to prove it. And I've
Speaker 4: seen so many cases and and again I'm not across
Speaker 4: the board person. You know, there's great law enforcement, there's
Speaker 4: great first responders, but unfortunately I have seen too many times,
Speaker 4: and it goes from you know, people who work in
Speaker 4: the prisons to police all the way up to the
Speaker 4: highest levels of federal government. Once people get a taste
Speaker 4: of power, it changes people. And that that's what we saw,
Speaker 4: I think was a big part of COVID people, even
Speaker 4: the people who worked in the walmarts, they had the
Speaker 4: power to throw you out of the walmart if you
Speaker 4: didn't put your mask on or weren't standing six feet apart.
Speaker 4: It was a crazy time. But that is really the
Speaker 4: world we're living in, and we are causing each other's demise,
Speaker 4: you know, pitting each other against each other instead of
Speaker 4: you know, consolidating together and fighting the ruling elite.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I watched a recent Crow episode about that where
Speaker 1: it was like that where he mentioned that was a
Speaker 1: time where it was like make or break, like we
Speaker 1: could all abandon it. But no, like it was like
Speaker 1: the Agent Smith effect or it empowered everybody put your
Speaker 1: mask like people got this. They basically have anybody to
Speaker 1: power to be the mask police. And then if they
Speaker 1: called you out, it's it's one versus a hundred, like
Speaker 1: good luck.
Speaker 4: Precisely. So we ended up just not participating in businesses
Speaker 4: that enforced it. I would try to walk in if
Speaker 4: I needed something, if they said anything, I didn't even
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to get a debate. I wasn't going
Speaker 4: to pull out my cell phone. And it was just fine,
Speaker 4: have a good day. But unfortunately, you can't really make
Speaker 4: a dent in these businesses like Walmart and Amazon, especially
Speaker 4: during that time, because all the mom and pop stores
Speaker 4: were closed, so your your your choices were limited, and
Speaker 4: it was your hand was really forced in these situations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's and that was another dawning moment too.
Speaker 1: I remember I was in a Oakhill Corrections. I got
Speaker 1: a secure minimum facility. I'm sitting there at my desk
Speaker 1: and then COVID. I was reading a book that was
Speaker 1: talking about a pandemic, and then I literally look off
Speaker 1: on the news and it is like a movie, like
Speaker 1: the Pandemic Flash Anistory, and I stopped reading the book.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is freaky. But then all the all
Speaker 1: the image like, oh this is all fake met I'm
Speaker 1: like what so they turned me. That was like the
Speaker 1: next level of really waking up, and it was that
Speaker 1: the guy's locked like I you know, I mean, it's like, thanks,
Speaker 1: thanks guys for helping them wake me up, because uh,
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't have known what to do or
Speaker 1: how to deal with that if I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: in that setting, if I would have just been at home.
Speaker 4: That's right, and COVID has worked That episode woke so
Speaker 4: many people up. And I wanted to ask you because
Speaker 4: you're thirty three, which meant you were nine or ten
Speaker 4: when nine to eleven happened. Then you saw the economy
Speaker 4: collapse a few you know, seven years later, you've seen war,
Speaker 4: You've seen COVID, you saw the summer of love and
Speaker 4: twenty twenty election turmoil. Man, you have certainly lived a
Speaker 4: different life than I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we put it that way. Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah not eleven. Yeah, I was fifth grade. I remember
Speaker 1: the kid next to me. It was like, oh, it
Speaker 1: looks like a smoke stack. And everybody started laughing, Like
Speaker 1: the whole class started laughing because it did look like
Speaker 1: a smoke stack. But I didn't laugh. I was I
Speaker 1: think I was the only person that laughing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: good dying or something. I'm like, this is it was
Speaker 1: just weird. Yeah. In two thousand and eight, I uh,
Speaker 1: the recession. That's when I first started working in a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Luckily it was busy enough because of the supper club
Speaker 1: and everybody was rich in this Lake Country area, so
Speaker 1: didn't really bother that part of the world. But ignorance
Speaker 1: is the bliss.
Speaker 4: It is right, Ignorance is bliss. Indeed, you also, let's
Speaker 4: go I want to get back to flat Earth a
Speaker 4: little bit in your journey. When when did you really
Speaker 4: start to When did it hit you? What was was
Speaker 4: it a video, was it a book, was it a conversation?
Speaker 4: When did it actually hit you that you know this
Speaker 4: whole globe thing was a lie.
Speaker 1: This is the question I was waiting for, churge, So
Speaker 1: I have to word this carefully for that. Don't all Okay?
Speaker 1: So November twenty twenty three, I was placed on the
Speaker 1: Ministry of Leaf. I'll just leave it at that. And
Speaker 1: then oh, yeah, that happened. So I'm at home. I'm
Speaker 1: getting paid pending investigation. Cool whatever. Come March of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, I'm donating plasma at a local h like
Speaker 1: biole Life, just to get out of the house. And
Speaker 1: they have somewhat of a routine and and makes some
Speaker 1: just easy like money on the side. And I'm sticking
Speaker 1: there and i see flattered files pop pop on my
Speaker 1: phone and I'm like, is this a joke? Whatever? So
Speaker 1: I hit play because it could. I hit play because
Speaker 1: I'm like, god, it seems I kind of read the
Speaker 1: bioh whatever. Give you a chance. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I did that. It's like something was just guiding me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, play. And then the first episode, why
Speaker 1: the lie? I couldn't rip the cords out of my
Speaker 1: arm fast enough and get in the car. You played
Speaker 1: the next episode. I think by the end of that day,
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep. I was on an episode like fourteen
Speaker 1: or fifteen, because everything that you said was just a
Speaker 1: It was that dawning like like you almost froze time,
Speaker 1: Like wow, I knew most of this or some of this,
Speaker 1: but I never were they're writing in my front of
Speaker 1: my face. I couldn't deny any of it. And and
Speaker 1: being on admin leave, really hitting rock bottom, I was
Speaker 1: open to anything. It's further ciming of it. It couldn't
Speaker 1: have happened any other way. Oh, thanks George.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's pretty powerful, and I know it is. I
Speaker 4: talked to a gentleman two days ago and it was
Speaker 4: still kind of new, like he'd recently found flat Earth.
Speaker 4: And I remember that passion and energy in the two
Speaker 4: weeks of like outside of doing my chores and what
Speaker 4: I need to do, job, eat, everything else was consuming
Speaker 4: you know, this concept and this material and reading books
Speaker 4: and videos. I was on Amazon ordering you know, the
Speaker 4: Carpenter's book from eighteen eighty five, and going back to
Speaker 4: me going back and reading the Bible, A Genesis is
Speaker 4: saying I get it now. After all these years of
Speaker 4: reading Genesis chapter one, I finally understood it. And while
Speaker 4: I was like you said earlier. I was very frustrated.
Speaker 4: It was the greatest episode of what did you say
Speaker 4: it was? I can't think of the TV punked. Yeah
Speaker 4: it was punked Ashton Kutcher, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ashton Kutcher, Yeah yeah, and yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was there for sure. The MTV's the end
Speaker 4: before they completely fell off the earth. But yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you're good. It is very exhilarating. And the truth is everything.
Speaker 4: And that was a big one. And that is when
Speaker 4: you put all your sports and music and all your
Speaker 4: little side things that you considered hobbies. I mean, you
Speaker 4: still have hobbies, but for me, for the next month,
Speaker 4: it was just NonStop consumption. And then comes well, I
Speaker 4: can't wait to tell my audience this wonderful news about
Speaker 4: how we're being lied to and it's going to change
Speaker 4: the world and everybody's gonna get on board. And boy,
Speaker 4: the emails I got the next day.
Speaker 1: I my Facebook acl was blocked or whatever, and I
Speaker 1: never even logged into it. I only log into it
Speaker 1: to find the builders of my home because they're basically criminal.
Speaker 1: And then I think, because I was this is the
Speaker 1: same time as I just join your podcast or whatever,
Speaker 1: so and it just said to do to basically said
Speaker 1: because you're a flat earth for we bann you on
Speaker 1: Facebook and said I logged in once.
Speaker 4: It banned you because of flat earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they said, I like, you have six months
Speaker 1: to to fight the case forever, but uh, otherwise you're
Speaker 1: kind to be locked. I'm like and like, I loged
Speaker 1: into it once to just try to find a guy's
Speaker 1: name that was related to the builder of the home
Speaker 1: I'm home. And then like, okay, this has nothing to
Speaker 1: do like so they the Big Brother askedect. They just
Speaker 1: they knew exactly what I was looking into outside of
Speaker 1: all that somehow, and then yeah, because I mean I've
Speaker 1: had the account sense I don't know, for years. I
Speaker 1: just logged into it once recently and boom bann.
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, well it is. You know, it is censored
Speaker 4: a bit, and I don't think it is censored like
Speaker 4: in the way they do vaccines and medical I had
Speaker 4: doctor Calker on my other podcast back in March about
Speaker 4: a month ago, and boy, YouTube just struck me down
Speaker 4: and pulled it and they wanted to send me through
Speaker 4: this retraining. It told me that you can appeal. I appealed,
Speaker 4: and within an hour it came back and it said
Speaker 4: I lost. And then they said you can go through
Speaker 4: this training, this retraining, and they'll reinstate my account. And
Speaker 4: they gave me examples, and one was Jane recently got
Speaker 4: a vaccine. This is like almost verbatim. I'm not I
Speaker 4: promise you, I'm not like making it really sound something
Speaker 4: it wasn't, but it said Jane recently got a vaccine.
Speaker 4: It paralyzed her for life. Jane went on YouTube and
Speaker 4: said that don't get this vaccine. It can paralyze you.
Speaker 4: Is this medical information or not? And I said, because
Speaker 4: I just wanted to click through and see what was saying.
Speaker 4: And I said, well, no, it's not because Jane got paralyzed.
Speaker 4: Oh that is incorrect. That is medical misinformation. I'm like, wow, Wow,
Speaker 4: holy cowt YouTube basically, look, without a doubt, the world's
Speaker 4: the worlds. It doesn't matter if you're in Iraq or Russia.
Speaker 4: Well Russia apparently can't get it over there, but I'm
Speaker 4: sure those guys you VPN right, Oh yeah, sure. The
Speaker 4: content people just eat content on there more than any
Speaker 4: other platform, and you have to have a certain narrative
Speaker 4: otherwise you can't be part of the conversation.
Speaker 1: That's really eerie and freaky to hear, but parallels with
Speaker 1: what my mom had endure working for like a charter
Speaker 1: school in Milwaukee. Apparently they're like either cameras are in
Speaker 1: the works that everywhere I'm a teacher. I think they
Speaker 1: already are because she was approached by the superintendent or
Speaker 1: one of her bosses. They came into the room with
Speaker 1: it like a check lit it on a clipboard, and
Speaker 1: gave your speaking points basically in that quiz format, like
Speaker 1: how you just mentioned the YouTube was with how you
Speaker 1: should talk and south we saw you say this and
Speaker 1: what we watch and then I'm like, this is just
Speaker 1: like that show on Apple TV Severance. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever seen that, but that's basically a documentary.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I've tried to watch it. It's very slow. My son says,
Speaker 4: it's worth the watch. It's really slow. They work in
Speaker 4: this office and it's like a subconscious deal and their
Speaker 4: other alver body like can escape and do things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh. I had the same thing because I
Speaker 1: started it and then I I did that with shows.
Speaker 1: I did the same thing. I'm breaking bad. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's a dumb show, but I got new breaking baths
Speaker 1: with the bechelor has I've ever seen, But that's irrelevant.
Speaker 1: But severance is well once once there's a point where
Speaker 1: it always clicks for me and say okay, and then
Speaker 1: then I binge watch it. But basically it's yeah, they
Speaker 1: have the any of the audi is it ship in
Speaker 1: their brain. They go up there, they go down right
Speaker 1: down in an elevator, and then it does this weird
Speaker 1: transition to the all the different soul, different part of
Speaker 1: the brain. It's work mode only, so there's separate, separate consciousness.
Speaker 1: And then and it's kind of like the born identity
Speaker 1: where they they both were aware of each other's existence
Speaker 1: and it's just crazy. And they do and it's all fantitized,
Speaker 1: all the workforce, everything's white and clean. They can only
Speaker 1: dance for five minutes if they get approval, and there's
Speaker 1: a checkolifs for that.
Speaker 4: Oh you know, I remember seeing that they bring in
Speaker 4: a record player, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it I mean, it's where we're going. We're
Speaker 1: pretty much already there, so you don't need to watch
Speaker 1: the whole show to get that premise. But it's just
Speaker 1: a really deep, eerie, twilight zone type of the fact
Speaker 1: that it would have on me at least.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And after you wake up, you realize that everything
Speaker 4: whether it's a movie or a television show, is there
Speaker 4: general b movies and TV shows out there that are
Speaker 4: just to keep people busy and away from seeking the
Speaker 4: truth or but you would be amazed at how many
Speaker 4: shows out there, whether it's I think it's called Fallout,
Speaker 4: which is one of the newer ones with Level thirty
Speaker 4: three and all those things. It was once a video game,
Speaker 4: now it's now it's like it's a big TV show
Speaker 4: on Amazon. All of them are just either mockery or
Speaker 4: it's their way of disclosure. And it's interesting watching these
Speaker 4: things after your awake and kind of understanding and dissecting
Speaker 4: the message they're trying to relay.
Speaker 1: No right exactly, and it's it's up to the viewer.
Speaker 1: Then that's the challenge, is like okay, to distinguish what
Speaker 1: where's a mockery? And I think now after you woke
Speaker 1: me up, it's the clarity is like lah, it's I
Speaker 1: would probably never get hired as law enforcement if they were,
Speaker 1: But I bet you any money, like you can analyze
Speaker 1: things better, your awareness, being able to cut through nonsense.
Speaker 1: And I was always good at spotting out a liar too,
Speaker 1: working in a prison sistance just through conversation. I look
Speaker 1: at his eyes first, GOETI gauged there. If there's nothing,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, the rest is history, Kin, But you
Speaker 1: could tell if a guy has like a soular is
Speaker 1: genuine or not based off of just ben't even have
Speaker 1: to listen to what you were saying. I could ignore
Speaker 1: them and just just kind of gauge that, and that's
Speaker 1: heightened even better or not. It's like I could probably
Speaker 1: figure out anything. It's I'm not saying I'm the smartest,
Speaker 1: but just being awake. It's crazy. You know.
Speaker 4: It's interesting you mentioned that because I remember being in
Speaker 4: the military and even through today, whether it's through whatever
Speaker 4: walk of the world that we're in, when you meet
Speaker 4: people who are completely lost and you have any you
Speaker 4: try to have any type of conversation with them, and they,
Speaker 4: like you said, they have that look in their eye.
Speaker 4: They don't comprehend how the world really works. I don't
Speaker 4: know if they had a significant or traumatic experience in
Speaker 4: their life and they've turned off all hope and they
Speaker 4: don't want to hear something positive because they're afraid they're
Speaker 4: going to get let down again. But there are people
Speaker 4: out there that it seem unreachable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. That's uh, it's exactly how Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just the switches turned off and you try to
Speaker 1: provoke a certain response and they just give you like
Speaker 1: a version a B or C of a. Oh. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's never change and they're setting their ways
Speaker 1: and they're always like in that situation, the guy would
Speaker 1: always go back to sweet or mopping and just mumble
Speaker 1: thumbing a walk away. It's like they not cognitive dissonance,
Speaker 1: but just intentional a deflection because they, like you said,
Speaker 1: they's just it's the it's to them all hope is lost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it is also why doesn't matter? And that's
Speaker 4: why it was important going full circle back to why
Speaker 4: the lie. It was important to if we're going to
Speaker 4: have this conversation, why it's so important. And I'm glad
Speaker 4: in retrospect two two and a half years ago that's
Speaker 4: the way I started out the podcast because it's important
Speaker 4: to lay out why it's so important. We're not just spitballing.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think this whole globe thing, you
Speaker 4: really have to lead out as to why they put
Speaker 4: so much effort into it before we continue on with
Speaker 4: like your examples, I wanted to read verbatim to show
Speaker 4: that I'm not kidding. I pulled up the policy training
Speaker 4: on YouTube because of my strikes. Question two is Tammy
Speaker 4: posts a video after getting the typhoid vaccine. She shares
Speaker 4: that she became permanently paralyzed after receiving her typhoid shot.
Speaker 4: In the video, she warns others not to get the
Speaker 4: typhoid vaccine because you're all going to suffer the same
Speaker 4: way I did. And it asked me, is this a violation?
Speaker 4: I'm like no, and I was told I was wrong,
Speaker 4: so I click on yes and it says that's right.
Speaker 4: This example violates our policy. We do not allow claims
Speaker 4: that vaccines cause chronic side effects outside of rare side
Speaker 4: effects that are recognized by health authorities. So they are
Speaker 4: telling us that we And this is the funny thing.
Speaker 4: It was because I had doctor Calcaron who was a
Speaker 4: big proponent proponent of chlorine dioxide. And it's such a
Speaker 4: small it's like ten millileters per liter bottle in it,
Speaker 4: and it has If you go to Diaxopedia, there are
Speaker 4: hundreds of claims, and it's helped me immensely in the
Speaker 4: month I've been using it. But there are so many
Speaker 4: videos out there and the autism rates and everything showing
Speaker 4: how destructive that vaccines have been, and it if you
Speaker 4: try to mention it, they tell you straight up up
Speaker 4: front in this training that we do not allow claims
Speaker 4: that vaccine cause chronic side effects. Although every commercial, everything
Speaker 4: that is it comes from Big Pharma, they tell you
Speaker 4: up front it has side effects.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the side effects are a majority of the
Speaker 1: commercial or the commercial itself is consumed by the audio
Speaker 1: disclaimer of like did the whole laundry list of how
Speaker 1: it can kill you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course in period just insane.
Speaker 4: It is. It truly is insane. That's the world we live.
Speaker 4: And we were promised by this administration that all these
Speaker 4: things were going to change, but Big Pharma continues. Jeffrey
Speaker 4: Epstein files have not been released, and life goes on
Speaker 4: as normal. So many promises continuing on. This is interesting
Speaker 4: to me. And you say, the strongest piece of evidence
Speaker 4: is how literally everyone lives the observable physical reality we experience, right.
Speaker 4: Notice the words or phrases like oh look the sun's
Speaker 4: out from people who are not flat earthers.
Speaker 1: Yep, like every day that that thought and if you
Speaker 1: mentioned this to them, was I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was you that mentioned something that a famous philosopher said
Speaker 1: that people are love living in their own ignorance, but
Speaker 1: it's somebody else brings it up like they have a problem.
Speaker 1: They're basically like right.
Speaker 4: But go ahead, go ahead, no, you were spot on,
Speaker 4: go ahead yeah.
Speaker 1: And then like and it's like, okay, is your car
Speaker 1: in the in the spot that you parked it last?
Speaker 1: Like of course it is, duh yeah, because we're not moving,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that's insane, Like there's
Speaker 1: nothing everything would be different, sound like none of this
Speaker 1: stuff would work at all that there's no way you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like different acular is the sun's
Speaker 1: out or of the moon's out, and then and just
Speaker 1: everything like uh like the the wind, like everything to me,
Speaker 1: every detail when any aspect of life is uh treated
Speaker 1: as if it's a flat and closed system and people
Speaker 1: are just iner to it or or like you said,
Speaker 1: we put it. We keep ourselves because of the programming,
Speaker 1: which is so deeply embedded it's I just sit back
Speaker 1: and watch people. Uh really like, hey, you guys are
Speaker 1: all closet flatter. There's a you know, I'm knowing out
Speaker 1: of the closet at least can admit that. But that's
Speaker 1: what so I don't know if that's the appropriate to say,
Speaker 1: but secretly everybody is. They live by it. Otherwise we'd
Speaker 1: be done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's any time I have been moving, I've
Speaker 4: known it. Like I've never not once ever been moving
Speaker 4: in something or on something and not known it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: You know, when you're on a plane, or when you're
Speaker 4: on a car, on a ride at the amusement park,
Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be, you can feel your
Speaker 4: self movement. But because science says that you can't feel
Speaker 4: it even though you are moving at an incredible rate
Speaker 4: of speed. And then everything else chasing the sun and
Speaker 4: you know how fast the Milky Way and all this
Speaker 4: other nonsense is going. Yet when you walk out in
Speaker 4: the morning and you see the clouds just hovering over
Speaker 4: your head, and then go back to heliocentrism. But what
Speaker 4: about the final experience ment? George, my goodness, gracious, if
Speaker 4: you can take a five minute clip of people you've
Speaker 4: never met in your life, follow you know, funded by
Speaker 4: a guy who is lawsuits against him, you know, Will
Speaker 4: Duffy and all these other people pushing uh these digital coins,
Speaker 4: et cetera. And if you're going to take that and
Speaker 4: override everything else we've talked about for two and a
Speaker 4: half years, come on.
Speaker 1: It. I think that's the uh the guy I picture
Speaker 1: when somebody says, what about the final it's like a
Speaker 1: computer program saying quick, quick in put this command before
Speaker 1: they start thinking for themselves. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What about the is that you asking that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you actually asking that? Because you don't care about
Speaker 1: what the answer is, You're not gonna you're asking It's
Speaker 1: a rictorical question. Do you know why you're asking that?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You get what about?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: It means? Nothing? What about this other YouTube video? What
Speaker 1: about this? What about? That's like? Are to ask questions
Speaker 1: or get outside and maybe try to answer for yourselves
Speaker 1: based off of what you see in here? I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that goes back to man. You know, when
Speaker 4: I read these this policy training on YouTube, if I
Speaker 4: wanted to get this rid of this strike, and I
Speaker 4: see these questions, I'm like, my goodness, gracious, So you
Speaker 4: think I'm a fifty five year old grown man who
Speaker 4: has been all around this world and been in a
Speaker 4: situation that you know, these people working at YouTube could
Speaker 4: never experience. And you're telling me that I don't know
Speaker 4: what's best for me and my family, and they're going
Speaker 4: to tell me what's best for me. And people can't
Speaker 4: still figure out that that's the world we're living in
Speaker 4: and it doesn't bother them. It just blows my mind.
Speaker 4: And everything that goes on with YouTube and the censorship
Speaker 4: is the same thing that's going on in every other AI.
Speaker 4: If you use Twitter's AI, I think it's called GROC.
Speaker 4: I did a radio show today on nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: Building seven. Before the show went live, I went to
Speaker 4: AI and I started having a conversation with it. I said,
Speaker 4: isn't it a coincidence that Larry Silverstein got control of
Speaker 4: the World Trade Center just six or seven weeks, you know,
Speaker 4: before nine to eleven. And it'll start off with, yes,
Speaker 4: it is weird that it you know, he took control
Speaker 4: seven weeks before. However, blah blah blah blah blah. Narrative
Speaker 4: narrative narrative, Well, what about the dancing Israelis that is correct?
Speaker 4: But narrative narrative narrative so these things are programmed to
Speaker 4: say yes, but and then gatekeep.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, that's it reminds me of there this guy
Speaker 1: on YouTube, I forget his name. He only puts like
Speaker 1: forty five second videos, but there's a clip of a
Speaker 1: some type of first responder that responded now before and
Speaker 1: the dude looked exactly like, uh, Bob Odenkirk. And because
Speaker 1: I go with it, I just I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know who that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, better call saw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy literally looked like Bob old Oldenkirk on
Speaker 1: camera saying that, oh yeah, they called us and we
Speaker 1: came the night before. It's like, why would you show
Speaker 1: up to something, to a specific location where something hasn't
Speaker 1: happened yet that you would have Nope, Like okay, that's
Speaker 1: like what that? I still can't get over that.
Speaker 4: But and what what incident was that related to? What
Speaker 4: incident was that related to?
Speaker 1: They called him to eleven? It was uh, oh, it
Speaker 1: was yeah, he was just talking to a news reporter
Speaker 1: at night or something. But he talked about how he
Speaker 1: responded the night before. Really, yeah, it looked strikingly similar
Speaker 1: to Bob Odenkirk. Could be just dressed up with a mustache,
Speaker 1: which he has done in bettercall assault. Oh that's that's
Speaker 1: just a little slide bar. But yeah, I forget where
Speaker 1: we were going with this.
Speaker 4: We were just talking about AI and you know how
Speaker 4: they're forcing the narrative, and basically we were talking about
Speaker 4: the observable physical reality we experience. However we we we
Speaker 4: you know, put that on pause to believe what we're
Speaker 4: told by people who don't have our best interest at hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then an AI part too, Yeah, because I was,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned earlier, where things are just the list
Speaker 1: of things that I had to do. Once I figured
Speaker 1: out that I know nothing, but I now know that
Speaker 1: I know nothing, it was like, Okay, I got this,
Speaker 1: this says but everything he said was like yep, I
Speaker 1: went through all that. But I talked to chat GPT
Speaker 1: about thunder and lightning and people can they can quote
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong on this, But what I remember is
Speaker 1: lightning it does not travel the speed of light. I guess, somebody, well,
Speaker 1: then what is it? I really can get a stair answer,
Speaker 1: but we'll explained to the Sun of Hunger and it
Speaker 1: said it's, uh, the basically it's ripping through so fast
Speaker 1: and so hot that it's the atoms or or the
Speaker 1: particles exploding from that reaction. To my how do we
Speaker 1: get the reverberation song, I had to beat the thing
Speaker 1: that death to basically say that as eco to me
Speaker 1: as a conspiracy theorist. Thing. Oh, while there in theory
Speaker 1: that is solid, you could also get a sound if
Speaker 1: the if thunder thunder with a solund of the reverberating
Speaker 1: off the dome. I mean, well, I think that's the
Speaker 1: only way you can do it because if it was
Speaker 1: open but you're telling it's not the sound bouncing off
Speaker 1: of Holmes, there's no way. So it's this whole argument,
Speaker 1: the chat gybt, and it just flags me as a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. But it did tell me I believe that
Speaker 1: lightning does not travel at the speed of light. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that one. It was just weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, I just confirmed it. Lightning does not
Speaker 4: travel at the speed of light. The visible flash of
Speaker 4: lightning is caused by the sudden heating and expansion of
Speaker 4: air around the lightning bolt, which propagates at the speed
Speaker 4: of light. However, the actual electrical discharge moves much splower,
Speaker 4: according to the AI. And then I did I did
Speaker 4: as I did ask it well, as is thunder bouncing
Speaker 4: off the firmament, which that they go immediately to the narrative.
Speaker 4: You know, the idea that thunder is caused by a
Speaker 4: sound bouncing off the firmament comes from certain cosmological or
Speaker 4: religious interpretations, often tied to a flat earth model, and
Speaker 4: they finish it with scientifically, this doesn't hold.
Speaker 1: Up to me, that's like revelations. Scientifically, like this doesn't
Speaker 1: hold off. There saying we have to say that. Other words,
Speaker 1: you guys are right, that's what I hear. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: like they always have these little disclaimers at the end
Speaker 1: where it's like they're just like nodding and waking and
Speaker 1: laughing to those who know what they're really saying. A
Speaker 1: lot of it is funny, even though it's not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're you're one hundred percent spot on, because they
Speaker 4: kind of acknowledge it right that it comes from you know,
Speaker 4: cosmological or religious interpretations where a solid dome or barrier
Speaker 4: of the firmament and close the earth. Right, that all
Speaker 4: makes sense, But then just scientifically this doesn't hold up.
Speaker 4: You know, stop thinking for yourself, right, Yeah, that's a
Speaker 4: good point. I don't think anybody's mentioned that yet. Anybody
Speaker 4: what I don't think anybody's mentioned that yet about thunder
Speaker 4: not being able to happen in an enclosed area, Yeah,
Speaker 4: because that.
Speaker 1: Was for me. There is always certain, but I'm not
Speaker 1: or so. The first unlayering was your episode about NASA,
Speaker 1: because I don't think I mentioned this. I was all
Speaker 1: about that. I was considering one to school for it,
Speaker 1: something I didn't want to do for some reason. But
Speaker 1: I was all about looking up new planets and like
Speaker 1: gold Lock, I don't know how. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I ever believed any of that. It was to me,
Speaker 1: it was just the same fascination of the Star Wars universe,
Speaker 1: or it's this lore like people get sucked into this lore,
Speaker 1: which which is cool, but it's like it's not real.
Speaker 1: So like if because people go all, well, howckey you
Speaker 1: believe this, it's like I didn't always, So you should
Speaker 1: have talked me a couple of years ago. I would
Speaker 1: have been all for this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that, man, you want another rabbit hole. You know,
Speaker 4: many people say that Star Wars is about, you know,
Speaker 4: Darth Vader being God, Luke Skywarker being Jesus the Death
Speaker 4: Star being referenced in Revelation eight to eleven, which is
Speaker 4: the star named Wormwood, which you can find youtubel channels
Speaker 4: that just dedicate the correlation with Star Wars, and I
Speaker 4: guess in their way mocking the story and if you
Speaker 4: go back and read everything, now they obviously it's a
Speaker 4: money machine too, but the original concept of it was,
Speaker 4: you know, based biblically, of course not upfront, but it's
Speaker 4: their way of mocking us.
Speaker 1: Is there's some underlying force or law that has to
Speaker 1: be about it by where it's like if you play
Speaker 1: if if you have a set of adults play a
Speaker 1: game against kids, the kids don't know that the adults
Speaker 1: are taking a couple of steps down to play e.
Speaker 1: I mean, but they have to give you a fair chance.
Speaker 1: And the kids aren't going to see it. They're just
Speaker 1: going to be having fun in the I did the
Speaker 1: same thing in sparring as martial arts, which I didn't
Speaker 1: mention I've been doing in my whole life. And the
Speaker 1: foundation principles is Buddhists, completely flat earth. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: kids have no idea. And if I had a spar
Speaker 1: like anything lower than a black belt, I would have
Speaker 1: to adhere or like fight as if I was that belt. Like,
Speaker 1: so you can't go like there are certain parameters you
Speaker 1: got to follow.
Speaker 4: Understand, gotcha. We already talked about You had mentioned earlier
Speaker 4: that every human is a flat earth or whether they
Speaker 4: realize it or not believing it or deny it, it
Speaker 4: is really what the reality is, whether they believe it
Speaker 4: or they deny it. Everybody I think believes or subconsciously
Speaker 4: I think knows that. But do they accept it or
Speaker 4: do they just tuck it away and ignore it? Right,
Speaker 4: that's what you're trying to say.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, exactly, Like because the body runs itself, it's
Speaker 1: almost like a separate thing, like you blood pumps, and
Speaker 1: it's like whatever is monitoring and running that system, it
Speaker 1: probably has a better idea. So what this earthly realm
Speaker 1: is than what we think? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like our body knows he wants to keep us alive,
Speaker 1: but we like do everything we can to just go
Speaker 1: against it. It's like just that's how I look at it.
Speaker 1: At least.
Speaker 4: You also have an interesting take on rainbows. Do you
Speaker 4: want to share that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know. That was another one that where
Speaker 1: I saw it on this video. I was watching this
Speaker 1: guy goes, rainbows only work on a flat earth with
Speaker 1: the dome, et cetera. And I'm like, okay, And then
Speaker 1: I did it myself. I just I do it often.
Speaker 1: I get a little wine glass without the stem. I
Speaker 1: take my little pocket flashlight and I just shine it
Speaker 1: through an uch way I can until I get a
Speaker 1: curve rainbow. Run the floor like okay, that's interesting. And
Speaker 1: my buddy, who is just willfully ignorant to it, he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't see what you're talking about. When he said that,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at his eyes and like, you're not looking
Speaker 1: at it. He was like on his phone, it's like
Speaker 1: his body is fighting against actually looking like look and
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do it. And I forget the exact point
Speaker 1: I did mention on the initial email. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I if I corresponded that or not, or if
Speaker 1: I I think I forgot what I actually initially said
Speaker 1: about the rainbows.
Speaker 4: You had mentioned that you considered that one of your
Speaker 4: concrete proofs that rainbows, uh and the reverberation sound that
Speaker 4: lightning makes our undeniable proofs of the flat earth we
Speaker 4: live in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are, it's saying to me, those they it
Speaker 1: hit me, like literally as if somebody just slamming on
Speaker 1: the ground like wake off, kind of thinking, I'm like, wow, rainbows,
Speaker 1: how did I not? And it's it's like okay, duh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like the god Creator, why would he make things such
Speaker 1: an absurd mystery to figure out how basic things were?
Speaker 1: Not basic, but how basic it is? Understand that he's
Speaker 1: been in front of me my whole life. And then
Speaker 1: the triple rainbows, and then because there's no other way,
Speaker 1: the global explanation is just there's there's a guy who
Speaker 1: came up with a video recently and it put it
Speaker 1: on my feed explaining how you could make it a
Speaker 1: full rainbow at a certain point, which works on both
Speaker 1: and then it's like they're just reverse editeering? What uh what?
Speaker 1: What actually is reality? But then they say we're reverse engineering,
Speaker 1: Like no, I don't think we are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're spot on, and I think the rainbow is
Speaker 4: something that we don't talk about enough. I think that
Speaker 4: is one of the proofs of flat Earth. I should
Speaker 4: say that's one of the proofs of have of the firmament, right.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's a it's like showed me an example
Speaker 1: of you you know what I mean, anything else, because
Speaker 1: otherwise it's a straight line, like I have to to
Speaker 1: I can you know what I mean? Could you can
Speaker 1: do this? You get a glass, a love of the
Speaker 1: water and put a way through it it any other
Speaker 1: way it doesn't work if we're always I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: No, nor did it?
Speaker 1: So can you hear me?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you're good, go ahead, I thought you were done. Continue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking that. Show me an example, like
Speaker 1: right in front of me, right now, where this works
Speaker 1: the way you say it does, like through a rain drop, Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, stop a rain drop from falling, and
Speaker 1: then show me that that's how rip. It's absurd. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make because now because now that I know when
Speaker 1: somebody is stealing out the narrative, it's like, okay, I
Speaker 1: put in my head back through all that how I
Speaker 1: used to think. It actually is a struggle to think
Speaker 1: that way. It's like going back to how I used
Speaker 1: to think. Is that I get less sleep now? But
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm actually more energetic than I used to be,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not your top priorities. Obviously you got to
Speaker 4: take care of your family and pay the bills. But
Speaker 4: I think that extra time that may have been used
Speaker 4: for you know, other activities. You have prioritized that extra
Speaker 4: time into seeking the truth, and every time you find
Speaker 4: something new, it's a new journey, and I think it's rewarding, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, every now and then, you got to pull
Speaker 4: out of the rabbit hole. You want to watch a
Speaker 4: movie or go to the fishing or whatever. But even
Speaker 4: when you're doing those things, I'll have a little earbud
Speaker 4: maybe listening to someone because I'm so consumed with not
Speaker 4: only see it's more than just seeking the truth. To me,
Speaker 4: it's gathering knowledge to share. When I'm putting that spot
Speaker 4: or in that moment when I have the opportunity to
Speaker 4: wake somebody up, I want to make sure that I'm
Speaker 4: fully armed and I don't drop the ball, because in
Speaker 4: many cases you may only have one shot to wake
Speaker 4: somebody up.
Speaker 1: That is so true. It's like you're literally in my mind.
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, that's exactly how I feel too. It
Speaker 1: to me, listening out of the background is almost, in
Speaker 1: a sense, grounding yourself because I'm surrounded. I'm forced to
Speaker 1: live in like a fake reality by the people living
Speaker 1: in the fake reality, not by the people who are
Speaker 1: forcing us. They know you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's just this big game and it's like I just
Speaker 1: did thing. I always have it on the background too,
Speaker 1: like okay, it's just like staying keeping a true sense,
Speaker 1: like grounding. Yeah, but I'm ready to go over a
Speaker 1: couple of things I had about physics too, or anything
Speaker 1: else you wanted me to talk about. So I'm not
Speaker 1: just yeah, go ahead, bud.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: I am. I've been trying to figure out this whole time,
Speaker 1: like how are the laws of physics? And I just
Speaker 1: remember in my head I always hear my dad talk
Speaker 1: or things that really stuck it actually made sense because
Speaker 1: most of it didn't. It's school. But like matter cannot
Speaker 1: be created an or can it be destroyed? I'm like,
Speaker 1: okay that I think the like that only works on
Speaker 1: a flat earth, like an enclosed system. Where because because
Speaker 1: you're telling me like that law, I don't know which
Speaker 1: law it is that I know it's a thing. And
Speaker 1: then when it goes up, mouth come down and then
Speaker 1: like the other one, an object in motion stays in
Speaker 1: motion until I forget the other part. But like does
Speaker 1: only work in a close system, because it's like where
Speaker 1: does it show me at point? At which point it
Speaker 1: just stops working. And then we're moving at half a
Speaker 1: million miles an hour. And then where there are no laws,
Speaker 1: and then first of all, what's what's causing all us
Speaker 1: to move? And then where's the point where all these
Speaker 1: laws start applying the Earth? And earth? Only if if
Speaker 1: I got pictures zooming on to watch this earth just
Speaker 1: get blasted like a like a rocket through whatever it is?
Speaker 1: Like why none of those laws matter? That our laws here,
Speaker 1: because if we don't abide by them, it does it
Speaker 1: doesn't work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, spot on. And you know Newton, you know, he
Speaker 4: came up with many of these laws of physics, you
Speaker 4: know laws of motion, which you mentioned, the three laws
Speaker 4: describing the relationship between an object's motion and the forces
Speaker 4: acting on it. And then you know, you can get
Speaker 4: into the universal gravitation, the laws of forces that attract
Speaker 4: any two objects with mass. And it's interesting because when
Speaker 4: you get down to the nitty gritty, their math problems,
Speaker 4: and you know, Newton was a how was he an
Speaker 4: eighteenth century guy?
Speaker 1: I think Newton then he discovered didn't Apple hit him
Speaker 1: in the head in June or July at sixteen sixty six.
Speaker 4: That's that's the story. It was Yeah, he was sixteen
Speaker 4: forty three. He died in the seventeen twenty seven. And
Speaker 4: you know the guy who really came out and started
Speaker 4: just dissecting these people who claim to have it all
Speaker 4: figured out with Tesla. And not only did Tesla die penniless,
Speaker 4: but he was plagiarized. There's a great article. There's many
Speaker 4: of them, but I've read a blog recently a whole
Speaker 4: breakdown of Einstein how he just plagiarized a specifically Tesla
Speaker 4: and a lot of the people claim to have these
Speaker 4: inventions were originally Tesla's. And if you look at Tesla,
Speaker 4: it's interesting his timeline is really in line with reconstruction
Speaker 4: eighteen seventies eighteen eighties, when people talk about that timeline
Speaker 4: where everything shifted greatly. I think he was someone who
Speaker 4: create was responsible for a lot of the things that
Speaker 4: we see today, but he was discredited because of his beliefs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tesla is I put him in the basket of
Speaker 1: I hate to put him aside, like next to Bill Cooper,
Speaker 1: but that that kind of category that cats from Bill Cooper,
Speaker 1: and there's a couple others where they're you can't deny
Speaker 1: the fact that it was helpful or at least they
Speaker 1: brought forth some uh or it exposed something. Bill Cooper
Speaker 1: exposed a lot. I mean you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like that's how I kind of categorize it to one
Speaker 1: hundred percent because that reminded me of a sign I
Speaker 1: saw in Dawtsman, the little village about the railroads and
Speaker 1: how they sprang off. Like this sign was in a park.
Speaker 1: It was like engraved in wood. It is just like
Speaker 1: some historical thing. But they use I don't know if
Speaker 1: they use quotes, but they said the railroads sprang up.
Speaker 4: I'm like, huh, And that's another perfect proof of flat Earth, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: train tracks themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd just tell you flat out. And then in
Speaker 1: the in the Conversation of Physics, I remember a vote
Speaker 1: on that giant drops at a theme park called six Flags.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard of it. Absolutely yeah,
Speaker 1: the giant drop. And I asked him, I'm like, that
Speaker 1: felt like death. How fast do you dropped? And they
Speaker 1: said is approximately it's like sixty two something miles an hour,
Speaker 1: And they said the human body can only withstand not
Speaker 1: much faster than it'll kill you. There's like if you
Speaker 1: drop too fast, you'll die. If you accelerate upwards too fast,
Speaker 1: you die. There's limits to all of that for all
Speaker 1: of us, and sixty two it and this was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of our feet in the
Speaker 1: air is pretty high, and I'm thinking, so if you're
Speaker 1: free fall in your space that you the recent kater
Speaker 1: period thing, like, they don't be dead. There's no way.
Speaker 1: That giant drop wasn't moving. It was just a beam
Speaker 1: out of the ground. And you go like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: five or h stories high, it's way too high. It's
Speaker 1: like I it was terrifying. And that drop was only
Speaker 1: like a second and it's over sixty miles an hour,
Speaker 1: and that's like a drop in the bucket compared to
Speaker 1: committed to this stace. Yeah, it was like that alone
Speaker 1: is proof because I look into it, like, yeah, whatever
Speaker 1: the limit is for being dropped, it's not much faster
Speaker 1: than that, and it will kill you.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you see skydivers, they'll they'll pass out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll pass up unconscious. And then yeah, and what
Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll let you talk.
Speaker 4: Well, I yeah, while you're looking that up, I want
Speaker 4: to reflect real quickly back on Tesla, you know, I
Speaker 4: want to tell people that briefly, the story of Stanley Myers.
Speaker 4: He was the guy who created the hydro engine. It
Speaker 4: was an engine that could run on water. And you
Speaker 4: can go back on YouTube. It gets pulled down, then
Speaker 4: it gets put back up by heroes who continuously post
Speaker 4: truth that gets taken down off YouTube. But he created
Speaker 4: an engine that ran on water, and it was a
Speaker 4: direct threat to the New World Order because you can't
Speaker 4: have all this freedom, you can't have engines that run
Speaker 4: on water, because the whole mission of the Matrix is
Speaker 4: to keep you in debt usury, which is talked down
Speaker 4: in the Bible. They have to keep you enslaved, and
Speaker 4: part of that is financially And what would a if
Speaker 4: you could drive a car that you could just drop
Speaker 4: water into, that is free, and the nWo doesn't want
Speaker 4: you free. Now, long story short, they killed Stanley Meyer.
Speaker 4: He got a call from Belgian investors and they were
Speaker 4: meeting him at a diner to make an offer for
Speaker 4: his technology, for his new invention, and he took his
Speaker 4: brother along. He sits down in a diner and he
Speaker 4: orders a cranberry juice and he takes a sip of
Speaker 4: the cranberry juice and he chokes, you know, he runs
Speaker 4: out in the parking lot and dies. They poisoned him.
Speaker 4: His brother looked and they were gone. And so why
Speaker 4: am I saying this Because Tesla was treated the same way.
Speaker 4: You have to understand that the powers that be new
Speaker 4: Nikola Tesla as a loose cannon. He was extraordinary. He
Speaker 4: was able to tap into what you could call the
Speaker 4: secrets of the universe in ways that scared the powers
Speaker 4: that be. Right, So again that this new emerging New
Speaker 4: world order, as technology got better, radio telegrams, newspapers, that
Speaker 4: the more we were able to communicate each other, the
Speaker 4: more the nWo had more power. Now that we have
Speaker 4: the Internet, they can really control us, right, But they
Speaker 4: knew that they were looking to further enslave humankind, right,
Speaker 4: not to liberate it. And that's why you know, Tesla
Speaker 4: was striving to bring free energy to every resident you
Speaker 4: know here on this flat plane. And you know, the corrupt,
Speaker 4: you know, leaders of this world wanted the exact opposite.
Speaker 4: That's why they did to Tesla what they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it exactly because I've seen this almost firsthand where
Speaker 1: it's I believe I was a loose cannon in the
Speaker 1: prison system because I'm like, okay, all right, I know where,
Speaker 1: Like I could tell you what a corruption is driving
Speaker 1: me nuts. My last working day there, a individual who
Speaker 1: was a car shur there approached me and said, my
Speaker 1: bosses talked to your bosses and they want to see you.
Speaker 1: Go bye bye, and then he locked himself in and
Speaker 1: then that was my last day I've ever worked there.
Speaker 1: So that's weird.
Speaker 4: So what do you say, corruption? What is it? Financial?
Speaker 4: Is it? Is it like you know, I've heard many
Speaker 4: people say that the gang the it's a gang system.
Speaker 4: It's it's a mob system where things that get traded
Speaker 4: or come in go out and certain people get piece
Speaker 4: of the cut. Is it more than just financial or
Speaker 4: is that a large part of it?
Speaker 1: I think that's the first part of it, because uh,
Speaker 1: I realized that the DC in any state, like I
Speaker 1: know for a fact, is the largest governing agency in
Speaker 1: the state of Wisconsin, over ten thousand employees that they
Speaker 1: claim to have. I think there's more. So that's a
Speaker 1: lot of reach. And then our boss, our headquarters was
Speaker 1: the capital. We always referred to it as Madison. And
Speaker 1: then guys would say, hey, you guys are the biggest
Speaker 1: gang here. Why are you sweating us for this and
Speaker 1: that I'm like, yeah, they're right. They're literally a mafia.
Speaker 1: So they got rid of me because I was I
Speaker 1: can tell you where the that this was coming from,
Speaker 1: this and that it didn't day like it's ingrained in
Speaker 1: my head. I could write a book on it, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they wanted me to do that. So
Speaker 1: they got rid of me. And they had paid me
Speaker 1: for the better part of a year to get rid
Speaker 1: of me, because they had nothing on me besides. The
Speaker 1: first letter that sent home me was for alleged misconduct
Speaker 1: in quotation marks and it's two hundred and thirty eight days.
Speaker 1: I was on administratively for two three eight. I think
Speaker 1: that the sacrificial number. The starting pay that same month
Speaker 1: out this place, I leave with thirty three dollars an hour.
Speaker 1: I was thirty three years old. Two and thirty eight
Speaker 1: days just a bunch of weird. Wow, that's interesting, And
Speaker 1: it's all based off corruption.
Speaker 4: And you know, we hear all these stories of people
Speaker 4: who try to toe the line or be truth seekers
Speaker 4: or you know, whistleblowers, And how does it feel to
Speaker 4: you for someone who just was a thorn in the
Speaker 4: side of corruption for you doing nothing wrong. Now, I'm
Speaker 4: sure you probably look at it now as a blessing.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming I should put words in your mouth, but
Speaker 4: it's got to be frustrating at the same time, knowing
Speaker 4: that just because you didn't want to play their game,
Speaker 4: you paid a price for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's uh. I wouldn't have it any
Speaker 1: other way, George, just like you said, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you and I will be talking. But there is these
Speaker 1: low level thoughts that I get about the money, which
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, it's try about the money, and they
Speaker 1: throw away all the good that it did because I
Speaker 1: actually did I did do the corrective part. I loved
Speaker 1: it seeing a guy actually seeing the hope in his
Speaker 1: eyes from like realizing he's like, oh you actually care,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, man, let's forget this out. And I would
Speaker 1: roll my sleeves like they apparently they didn't want you
Speaker 1: doing that anymore. They take all that away, and then
Speaker 1: I was all. I was given awards. I got a plaque,
Speaker 1: awards given that I have never been given before, at
Speaker 1: least from what I could see. Not that it matters,
Speaker 1: but so it's like you're telling me, like only a
Speaker 1: year prior to them, putting you in leave. I go
Speaker 1: from a guy who gets prestigious awards and like shakes
Speaker 1: hands of wardens to you know what I mean, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is happening because you and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like I just decided to flip with that, come on
Speaker 1: like it. So they try to take that all away
Speaker 1: from you. But it put me here today and I
Speaker 1: woke up to it. So and that's what I really
Speaker 1: believe that, like, Okay, yeah, there is a God because
Speaker 1: there's no way that this could have happened unless this
Speaker 1: was It was like this boom boom boom step. It
Speaker 1: was like all plant. It's like something wanted this to
Speaker 1: happen and it wasn't me, but it happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your journey was meant to go another way, and
Speaker 4: it all happens for a reason. It really is. I
Speaker 4: wanted to ask you this just because I get a
Speaker 4: lot of emails. I did a podcast several months ago
Speaker 4: on the h I think it was in the fall
Speaker 4: of last year on the prison industrial complex, and that
Speaker 4: rarely gets talked about. You hear people talk about the
Speaker 4: military industrial complex, the medical industrial complex, but it is
Speaker 4: a real thing, and we're told right in our society
Speaker 4: that you know, when people make mistakes, they go to
Speaker 4: these prisons and that's where they rehabilitate and become better people.
Speaker 4: I have so many emails from people in the prison
Speaker 4: system that say they don't rehabilitate them, and in some
Speaker 4: cases they're they're forever burdened by their court cases. And again, listen,
Speaker 4: if somebody did something very terrible, you know, we have
Speaker 4: to forgive them in order to forgive them. But accountability,
Speaker 4: there's got to be accountability. However, I can tell you,
Speaker 4: you know, people who are young aet in these traps.
Speaker 4: Maybe it starts with they don't pay their car insurance,
Speaker 4: they get pulled over for expired tags, and they miss
Speaker 4: a court date, and the things can add up really quickly.
Speaker 4: And in some cases they make a poor decision and
Speaker 4: go to jail and we're told that, you know, they're
Speaker 4: going to rehabilitate there. And I get so many emails
Speaker 4: from people said, there's there's no rehabilitation for them. It's
Speaker 4: just most of these guys that are in there, some
Speaker 4: things are available to them. Do you see the prison
Speaker 4: system as as the right place for these people to
Speaker 4: be rehabilitated or is that money more for just paying
Speaker 4: salaries and paying contracts than it is for anything else.
Speaker 1: Lord George, I don't think it's they go there to
Speaker 1: learn how to stay there. That's what I learned and
Speaker 1: get and they become a better criminal. I've heard that,
Speaker 1: idd that's why they stay there. If that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that's exactly and not always in that exact words,
Speaker 4: but that's that's what they.
Speaker 1: There's no other way it is.
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I'm just thinking I could literally
Speaker 6: talk for out Holy cowp they do not the only
Speaker 6: people that I saw what I say I saw.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can make sense to this. I
Speaker 1: could tell if a guy was genuine or not based
Speaker 1: off a talks where it's like, okay, if he actually
Speaker 1: went back on the streets, he'd be fine. But I
Speaker 1: know that for a fact, I'd put my life on it.
Speaker 1: But those are the guys with life, the far and
Speaker 1: few between and the other guys. They come in and
Speaker 1: out and when they leave they come back with more time.
Speaker 1: The system figures that a way to make sure that
Speaker 1: they come back. It's like a repeating customer, Like they
Speaker 1: use algorithms and stuff like to be on the whole.
Speaker 1: They get revocated for a speeding ticket. Oh, seved more
Speaker 1: years just because the the po the probation and roll
Speaker 1: officer doesn't like you. Like I couldn't believe that would
Speaker 1: have heard that.
Speaker 4: So if somebody's out after that, they've been paroled, and
Speaker 4: if they're caught speeding, just speeding alone could put them
Speaker 4: back in prison potentially.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't care what anybody says, like that's a fact,
Speaker 1: like that can't happen. Is like you said, if you
Speaker 1: give somebody the power, which is somebody who oversees these
Speaker 1: guys that are on probation and prol on paper or whatever,
Speaker 1: they could because I know the limits of what you
Speaker 1: can do with power. It's all about how you work
Speaker 1: word things. I got very good at writing reports, not
Speaker 1: in a good way either. I learned from the best
Speaker 1: because they were the worst. It's like, if you don't
Speaker 1: write a good report, you end up in jail. So
Speaker 1: these guys figured out how to write good instant reports
Speaker 1: to keep their job and then they could boast about it.
Speaker 1: So anybody in that type of position, the extremes up,
Speaker 1: the outcomes are literally in your hands. It's so much power.
Speaker 1: So yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to give you an example here. I
Speaker 4: looked this up recently. So here in Delaware, anybody, if
Speaker 4: you're over sixty five, fifty five or sixty five. It
Speaker 4: started last year, you can get your medical marijuana card, right,
Speaker 4: just straight up. You don't have to apply for it
Speaker 4: anybody else. If you can come up with anything, the
Speaker 4: doctor signs off with it, you get your marijuana card,
Speaker 4: and the state of Delaware becomes your drug dealer. Now
Speaker 4: here's my point. If you right, you use it medically,
Speaker 4: but you don't want to have to pay the absorbent
Speaker 4: prices in your anti government, your gour your own stuff.
Speaker 4: Let's say you get caught with one hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: six grams of marijuana. I don't know how much that
Speaker 4: is in a baggy or whatever, right, but let's just say,
Speaker 4: and you're nineteen, you're it's a felony, and you're going
Speaker 4: to jail for two years. Right, And you know, as
Speaker 4: a Christian, we're supposed to be a Christian nation that
Speaker 4: if you're a felon, correct me if I'm wrong, it's
Speaker 4: not a misseeator. If you're a felon, that's doesn't that
Speaker 4: stay with you? If you're an adult your entire life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it does. It does. You can get a
Speaker 1: pardon from the governor, which I only witnessed once by
Speaker 1: a fellow officer who just set out loud. Oh I
Speaker 1: remember walking these walls. I'm like, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you mean by that? Yeah, I would lock up here.
Speaker 1: You gotta go a pardon from the governor. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so anything's possible. And it's about five or six ounces
Speaker 1: for that bag, so it be a big bag of weeds.
Speaker 4: M It just shocks me that it's okay if you
Speaker 4: get it from the government, but if you grow it yourself,
Speaker 4: you're going to jail. It's just wait when you break
Speaker 4: it down. And I don't partake. I have friends who
Speaker 4: retired from the military who do, and it helps them cope.
Speaker 4: And and I would probably say that it's probably safer
Speaker 4: than what you get from the VA, the pills you get.
Speaker 4: But it's just funny when you sit down and break
Speaker 4: down these things like we were talking about, like whether
Speaker 4: it's believing the earth is spinning. When you break down
Speaker 4: some of the things that either we're taught or that
Speaker 4: we deal with on a daily basis, or what is
Speaker 4: how society works is if you get it from the government,
Speaker 4: it's okay. If you grow in your backyard, you're going
Speaker 4: to jail for tears, you're a felon and that sticks
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, it is, and that movie think of
Speaker 1: something like this. It's this idea that causes the human
Speaker 1: brain to go all while I don't know, like, okay,
Speaker 1: we you don't feel it because it's always been a thing.
Speaker 1: Like is that not a nod to God? Like he's
Speaker 1: there's no beginning, nors there and end. He's always here?
Speaker 1: Is alf for the omega? Because we can't wrap our
Speaker 1: head around something not having a beginning or an end,
Speaker 1: And that's kind of they use that concept to this
Speaker 1: spinning and emotions. It's like, well, that's why I don't
Speaker 1: feel because it's just always been so who was the
Speaker 1: first person here? Then that? Uh, like what when did
Speaker 1: that start? When did we don't feel? Because there's always
Speaker 1: been a thing. It's like here, it's almost a nod
Speaker 1: saying like it's a liar, it's just God because he's
Speaker 1: always been there, you know, Like, or is that creating?
Speaker 4: No, it's it's not crazy, it's it's yeah. Some of
Speaker 4: those things that can make your when you think about
Speaker 4: God and how long he's been there and how he
Speaker 4: created the earth. And that's the other thing. I get
Speaker 4: questions all the time. We'll get an email from listeners,
Speaker 4: well how do you account for this? How do you
Speaker 4: account for that? And my answer is if I know,
Speaker 4: I'll give them what I think. But excuse me. In
Speaker 4: many cases I'll say I don't know. And I think
Speaker 4: it's it's uh, sillyvia silly of us to think that
Speaker 4: we can comprehend God's creation and how it works, every
Speaker 4: aspect of it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's uh. I meant to. But the things
Speaker 1: we are might to figure out. I think he laid
Speaker 1: it off for us. They were children, like like my
Speaker 1: my little girl, like her room was set up all
Speaker 1: good to go, or crib set up all ready to go,
Speaker 1: Like why would I want her to figure that? There's
Speaker 1: no way humans would survive. Anybody says if we were
Speaker 1: just you know, I mean cavement, there is no way.
Speaker 1: Because this branch. This makes me think of this thing.
Speaker 1: This is another thing I thought about as a kid.
Speaker 1: I look at something that was built, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: if you're to take off the layers of reverse time.
Speaker 1: It goes back to the first tool that I So
Speaker 1: you have your hands, how is the first tool made?
Speaker 1: You take some clay? Get it what? You figure that out?
Speaker 1: But then how do you get it's so refined? I'm
Speaker 1: like it has to be like as a kid, I'm like,
Speaker 1: there has to be like an architect, Like, there's no
Speaker 1: way we can just go from nothing.
Speaker 4: To this, right, And it's because of you know, curiosity
Speaker 4: and ingenuity and a lot of failing, which is something
Speaker 4: people need to remember. Everything that you see in the
Speaker 4: world today, whether it's an iPad or a telephone, came
Speaker 4: from a lot of failure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, Just like not that I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: a guy, but was that Thomas A. Edison who said, uh,
Speaker 1: like in an interview, like I learned the fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: or a thousand different ways how to not make a
Speaker 1: light ball?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, one hundred percent. And we all no matter
Speaker 4: what venture we're in, whether we're trying to be an
Speaker 4: athlete or maybe your your dream is to you know,
Speaker 4: produce a song. You know, whatever it is, you fail
Speaker 4: more than you know you succeed, and there's nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with that. That's that's how we get Wisdom is our
Speaker 4: failures and we learn from them. Well, I better not
Speaker 4: do that again. That was stupid and and that is
Speaker 4: how you get your wisdom and.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that's all. That's the whole point I think.
Speaker 1: And do you care if I thought about the Korean
Speaker 1: martial arts that Chinese Buddhists thing quick, because it ties
Speaker 1: into all this, Yeah, go ahead at any realism. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's to somebody who So martial arts is almost like
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, yeah, it's cool, it works. I
Speaker 1: got a black velt that then they stopped training. But
Speaker 1: and then you have people who think it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that stuff doesn't work. It's yeah, So it's because you
Speaker 1: don't know the key power Chi comes from. There's three
Speaker 1: points below them navel and then it ties into like
Speaker 1: the whatever that is the umbilical cord. But you don't
Speaker 1: get that. And that power comes from like the universe,
Speaker 1: the are they talk about the elements. They say it
Speaker 1: comes from the earth. It to do certainstances where you
Speaker 1: ground yourself to draw that power, basically like draw power
Speaker 1: from the ether. Talk these books talk about the ether.
Speaker 1: It's called I don't know. It's a Korean based martial art,
Speaker 1: but it has Chinese Buddhist origins. They talk about all
Speaker 1: the things that I ignored when I read them before
Speaker 1: I woke up. I'm like, wow, this makes perfect sense now,
Speaker 1: like none of it would work without it. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of rambling, but I that was my point was
Speaker 1: people think it's all that stuff doesn't work. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: because I've seen it firsthand. It's just you guys don't know.
Speaker 1: Therefore it's uh, you labels fiction order, but it's real.
Speaker 4: Well that's interesting. It seems like martial arts has been
Speaker 4: Do you think it's the discipline or the art or
Speaker 4: what it is that it resonates with you so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I said, it's a well, practice makes perfect,
Speaker 1: but it also practice makes permanence. It's the aspect of
Speaker 1: really like it's the thought in the back of my head,
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm watching TV, but I could be
Speaker 1: outside meditating, which I did recently, and the things you
Speaker 1: hear when you just turn everything out. I heard these
Speaker 1: crickets by a river or whatever it felt. They were
Speaker 1: like literally right next to me. It was crazy. But
Speaker 1: this the whole idea of really that there is a guy.
Speaker 1: Like most martial arts adage root they believe in a
Speaker 1: God and the creator an architect of this universe, and
Speaker 1: this one talks like and they don't talk about space,
Speaker 1: and it's one single consciousness and human beings have these
Speaker 1: layers that you can unlock of the mind. It's like
Speaker 1: four quarters of a pie. And we're only like in
Speaker 1: the zero to one, and then our ancestors were like
Speaker 1: in the two to three where you could literally change
Speaker 1: like shape shift and treshfold, just super superhuman, supernatural like
Speaker 1: god like abilities. So that's why it really resonates with
Speaker 1: me because it's just when I read that and then
Speaker 1: when everything else at they're waking up, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is really ringing true with me, like one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: It's just like a feeling.
Speaker 4: That's similar to that movie Lucy. Right, she was able
Speaker 4: to tap into like you know, humans only can get
Speaker 4: to five percent. She was able to get more and
Speaker 4: more until ninety five percent. Then she could just she
Speaker 4: was like the perfect human being, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, sure, exactly that. And that's a nod
Speaker 1: saying that this is the thing, and like all that
Speaker 1: doesn't work. More people say well, like oh that's mumble
Speaker 1: and julable. They're really saying I haven't tried nor will
Speaker 1: I ever. Therefore it doesn't matter, like nobody ever actually tries.
Speaker 1: If you sat outside and meditated and breathe and just
Speaker 1: toned everything out every day in your life, like who knows?
Speaker 1: Because my Supreme grand Master over in California, he's a healer,
Speaker 1: he does. He heals people with his hands. He's a
Speaker 1: cut oriental medicine doctor and he's like ninety years old.
Speaker 1: He can make his hands hot and cold and uh
Speaker 1: Laurie of blood fresh, all this crazy stuff with herbs,
Speaker 1: and he believes he claims. I don't think he's a liar.
Speaker 1: He can asshole project, talk to his ancestors, learn ancient knowledge.
Speaker 1: Almost said, I believe him. So do you do you.
Speaker 4: Think the powers that be the ruling elite right, do
Speaker 4: you think that they're a able to tap into things
Speaker 4: that we can't? And do you think all of these things,
Speaker 4: whether it's the television or popular music or all distractions
Speaker 4: to keep us from you know, utilizing more than five
Speaker 4: percent of our brain or whatever they say it is.
Speaker 1: On numb percent, because I think that we would figure
Speaker 1: it out very quick, Like humans must be very powerful
Speaker 1: to really have to attack every possible angle. The biggest
Speaker 1: treess game ever to stop this thing that they still
Speaker 1: can't stop. They just sit the slow down. It's like,
Speaker 1: how incredible we must be pretty powerful beings to have
Speaker 1: somebody to suppress us with what we drink everything, and
Speaker 1: we're still more or less pretty Like it's still life
Speaker 1: is still pretty amazing. So on numbercent they know and
Speaker 1: it's but I don't think they can answer that realm
Speaker 1: or those types of if you like, if somebody came
Speaker 1: to a rumor, it's like, hey, you can be here,
Speaker 1: but you know you're not really welcome. We know you
Speaker 1: know how to get in here, but you gotta like
Speaker 1: they have to tread carefully and suppress us as much
Speaker 1: as they can. And I think that's how we I
Speaker 1: think it was meant to be. Like you said, the
Speaker 1: defeated the failure. We had to go through a series
Speaker 1: of failures to achieve that once again, because I know
Speaker 1: it's possible. But the lucy thing, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: them moves in the battles, and the forms and the
Speaker 1: techniques come from meditation. They would learn that the monks
Speaker 1: would because these monks were hiding out the mountains for
Speaker 1: sixty eight hundred years up until the sixties and then
Speaker 1: he fled Korea, went to California, started turning the military.
Speaker 1: But a lot of that it was for meditation. They
Speaker 1: didn't interact with anybody else. It's just oral tradition. It's
Speaker 1: like the tiger mouth was how a monk killed a
Speaker 1: tiger in his dream or higher level of consciousness and meditation. Assaul, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they suppressed it because if they didn't, it
Speaker 1: would probably be I bet you it would flip in
Speaker 1: a day if you have Josh. Everything literally everything is
Speaker 1: just taking up our time, so we don't even consider
Speaker 1: it as an option of just doing what a monk
Speaker 1: would do or something similar and figuring things out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've occupied us with such trivial stuff. And so
Speaker 4: many people have come on the podcast and said, you know,
Speaker 4: you know much. Not all there's great again, there's great
Speaker 4: teachers out there. It's just the system they've created. It
Speaker 4: is thirteen years of a lot of busy work, right,
Speaker 4: and it's to keep you busy with things that maybe
Speaker 4: we should be concentrating with other things. Number two, I
Speaker 4: have said before, it's very important, like we're all guilty
Speaker 4: of if we're going out on a walk or cutting
Speaker 4: the grass. We pop our head but our headphones, our
Speaker 4: earbuds in. But it's important, like you said, to block
Speaker 4: everything out and just go out and enjoy nature sometimes
Speaker 4: and not just not be distracted at all and listen
Speaker 4: and you know, communicate with God and enjoy his what
Speaker 4: he's created. The reason I brought this up in the
Speaker 4: first place because you'd mentioned shape shifting, and it has
Speaker 4: been said that Alistra Crawley was reputed to have the
Speaker 4: power to shape shift. And you know David Iike obviously,
Speaker 4: who was a professional athlete. He was a goalkeeper in
Speaker 4: the English Premier League. Then he became, you know, a
Speaker 4: television presenter as they call them in the United Kingdom,
Speaker 4: and then he claims in ninety five or something, he
Speaker 4: walks into a store and he sees a shape shifter.
Speaker 4: Many people believe him, many people don't. But then again,
Speaker 4: when you look at pop culture and in many of
Speaker 4: the movies, whether it's V or these type of things,
Speaker 4: are they telling us they can or is this just
Speaker 4: something that they're having us look at, something that can't happen.
Speaker 1: Well, and the that I immediately think of nothing is
Speaker 1: new under the sun. Okay, you're saying these things that
Speaker 1: people say are. I think it's oral tradition. So I
Speaker 1: think they're all like matter of fact, under the sun.
Speaker 1: I mean the son of the Babbas, there's not we're
Speaker 1: not according to this heliocentric nonsense, we're not out of
Speaker 1: the sun. But the according to that saying nothing is
Speaker 1: new under the sun. But it's true, it's true, could
Speaker 1: in many different ways. But I don't think any idea
Speaker 1: is new. Like not to mention Joe Rogan, but he's
Speaker 1: talked to a lot of people who said like ancient,
Speaker 1: not ancient, but like classical music. A lot of his
Speaker 1: high level concepts with math were dreams. I guess that
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, this isn't me. This was imparted to
Speaker 1: me through a dream kind of thing. So anything that
Speaker 1: there's another saying any something like that, but basically nothing
Speaker 1: to do with on another suns. So they they have
Speaker 1: to tell us or bury it somehow, but still have
Speaker 1: it there. Because I mean, nothing is new is They're
Speaker 1: all concepts and ideas that are attainable, I believe.
Speaker 4: At all great points. And we're nearing the end of
Speaker 4: our interview, but before we get to that, I wanted
Speaker 4: to give you an opportunity have you had any successes
Speaker 4: in trying to share this with others As with flat Earth,
Speaker 4: I should.
Speaker 1: Say surprising really a majority of the co workers that
Speaker 1: have interacted with it, because I don't do a whole
Speaker 1: lot sometimes and by myself. But ear these two guys
Speaker 1: that were like oh yeah, like what, Like I wasn't
Speaker 1: expecting a reaction like that. We're like, oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: did it. One guy a little older than me and
Speaker 1: a younger cat in his twenties. I'm like, wow. They
Speaker 1: were on power and everything, and in some of the
Speaker 1: things I explained to them, I could see the looks
Speaker 1: on their eyes of them actually like none of the
Speaker 1: things were in the way they were actually thinking for themselves.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it like that. He goes, so that
Speaker 1: makes sense that there's no so multiple co workers and
Speaker 1: then I can't really name names or anything, but like
Speaker 1: almost all of them, actually almost all my coworkers and sympothesis.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's amazing. I rarely hear that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because people don't. I'm kind of ballsy. I
Speaker 1: guess I just kind of hey, like this one up
Speaker 1: up front. Yeah, maybe it's a person thing. Just cut
Speaker 1: cut through, Like I don't have time to play games.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of flat out a head towards it.
Speaker 1: And I don't care if people call me crazy. And
Speaker 1: most of my co workers like either. Seriously, one guy's
Speaker 1: bothered who goes everything you say. Man, he's like, I
Speaker 1: think them out of the rest of the day. But yeah,
Speaker 1: most of my co workers. But yeah, small, small sample size,
Speaker 1: but I thought it would be in the opposite.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome because most people I talk to who
Speaker 4: come on the podcast, they maybe their spouse or a
Speaker 4: family member, but it's probably five percent victory. That's that's huge.
Speaker 4: That's great. And you can tell by the way you
Speaker 4: present your ideas that you you're able to get your
Speaker 4: point across. So kudos to you for for doing that.
Speaker 4: Because again, if we get enough people to wake up
Speaker 4: to these lies, we can we can start to turn
Speaker 4: the tables and you know, make people realize we don't
Speaker 4: have to live this way. You know, I mentioned before
Speaker 4: when when my son had his uh recent daughter, you know,
Speaker 4: last January was you know, he got his paternity leave
Speaker 4: and he was off for six weeks and then it
Speaker 4: was back to work. He's just like, this isn't really,
Speaker 4: this isn't how we were meant to be just to work, work, work,
Speaker 4: and we're pulled away from our family. And you know,
Speaker 4: he homeschools, but you know he sees all his co
Speaker 4: workers that send his kid off to school, and you know,
Speaker 4: we are allowing other people to mold the mind of
Speaker 4: our children. I think we need to rethink the way
Speaker 4: we we uh we live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because it's like, oh, well, how they're gonna learn.
Speaker 1: It's like I think if we just let this like,
Speaker 1: let us let it ride out, let people live things
Speaker 1: the way they want to without like, oh what you know,
Speaker 1: you don't need any of that, Like we would probably
Speaker 1: figure it out and be fine. And anything that you
Speaker 1: forgot to teach those one of the core classes like
Speaker 1: then it wasn't meant to be. It's you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's most parents are going to do the
Speaker 1: best for their kids and teach them everything they know.
Speaker 1: And that's that.
Speaker 4: Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. You know, Baltimore is
Speaker 4: an hour south southwest of me. And if you want
Speaker 4: a rabbit hole to the listeners at home and yourself, Jordan,
Speaker 4: google Baltimore literacy rates and imagine, you know, thirteen years
Speaker 4: in school and then look at those numbers and it's broke.
Speaker 4: It's truly broken. Really, there's so many Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 4: so many other twenty eight, twenty nine percent upon graduation
Speaker 4: in eighth grade it was close to forty percent don't
Speaker 4: even have a third grade breeding level. And it's just,
Speaker 4: you know, it's very frustrating, it's very sad. But you know,
Speaker 4: we need to set our children up for success. And
Speaker 4: here in Delaware it's very simple to the homeschool. I say,
Speaker 4: every church, every single church in the state, should have
Speaker 4: their own school and community schools. Send your your child
Speaker 4: down the street to the church, get educated. There. Know
Speaker 4: who's molding the mind of your children, because you know,
Speaker 4: you can go on TikTok or Twitter and you can
Speaker 4: see what they're being taught. Today's it's a little it's
Speaker 4: a little worrisome. Was there anything else you wanted to
Speaker 4: touch on before we parted ways?
Speaker 1: Is this usually where you ask about the how do
Speaker 1: you word it sick something?
Speaker 4: The silver bullets?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we alreadycover that. Well, let's see help
Speaker 1: my hand. I'm gonna say that. I know sometimes you
Speaker 1: mentioned the old world or like ancient architecture, like Wellpark
Speaker 1: Correctional is proof of a flatter than an ancient civilization
Speaker 1: because I found pictures on archives with month streets and
Speaker 1: the people that live there, they stay there multiple generations.
Speaker 1: They had told me, like of Crobberry, this the prison.
Speaker 1: The tunnel was built around the prison. The prison was
Speaker 1: always there. It's also connected to Dodge Correctional, which is
Speaker 1: about Donald Road. It clos off the tunnels of course
Speaker 1: that they used to transport high profile in names. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, so the whole time before I was awake,
Speaker 1: that was it was right underneath me the whole time.
Speaker 1: This old castle look in prison like it couldn't be
Speaker 1: more iric. It's like just hit me in the face
Speaker 1: every day. And I had no idea.
Speaker 4: I see Dodge, what was the other one? You said,
Speaker 4: what was the other correctional institution?
Speaker 1: W A U p U and correctional?
Speaker 4: Oh I found it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh wow, that's the same sort. Yeah, the same
Speaker 1: narrative there used to be Aspire.
Speaker 4: Holy yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like a two mile tunnel side proof
Speaker 1: right there. And then the pictures don't have but all
Speaker 1: tradition and local like native people upon me. They told
Speaker 1: me things that I believe we're truth and don't add
Speaker 1: up and it's just to me a proof right there.
Speaker 1: It was better part of a decade the truth was
Speaker 1: trying to get on me. And if it got that
Speaker 1: up and forced my hand.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's incredible. This prison has been around since the
Speaker 4: eighteen fifties, eighteen fifty one.
Speaker 1: Built by prison labor and it's like, okay.
Speaker 4: Wow, there's no way this was built by prison labors.
Speaker 4: Is that what? That's the official story?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Here it is prisoners were signed to construction projects.
Speaker 1: Yep. Wow. And they skipped the part where they say
Speaker 1: construction began and it just said yeah, yeah, and they
Speaker 1: did folder shot. There's like folder shops of yeah. It's
Speaker 1: just like yeah, if you go far back and off.
Speaker 1: I swear I found one a picturable pond correctional late
Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, I swear. And the towers have the plaque
Speaker 1: on the outside like when it was di recored, because
Speaker 1: the narrative is that the towers are all built at
Speaker 1: different years as the prison is being built, but there
Speaker 1: they were all just always there and all the all
Speaker 1: the time. STAPs on the outside of the limestone towers
Speaker 1: are just just that lie, you know. I mean that
Speaker 1: that faked seal. Wow.
Speaker 4: And it's They've had an incredible amount of notable inmates.
Speaker 4: Steven Avery, they made the making a murderer about that,
Speaker 4: the guy who attempted to assassination on Theodore Roosevelt Shrink,
Speaker 4: he was, he's been there, David Vandyke, a very famous
Speaker 4: serial killer from Milwaukee back in the seventies. And then yeah,
Speaker 4: I forgot just a couple of years ago there there
Speaker 4: was a big issue with the inmates, and that is
Speaker 4: interesting that what eighteen fifty one, My goodness, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And then the Green Bay Rush show is same,
Speaker 1: same thing, just as old looks like a castle.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was just that that's one of my
Speaker 1: like it was always I took a job like I
Speaker 1: my path. It's just like it makes so much sense
Speaker 1: now I start in corrections. And then that's with a
Speaker 1: truth to trying to get it made. It took like
Speaker 1: eight and a half years. You know what.
Speaker 4: We often talk about two thousand and one being a
Speaker 4: transformational year with nine to eleven and everything else, but
Speaker 4: also in this prison two thousand and one of the
Speaker 4: warden of that facility, and I'm talking about Watpoon Correctional Institution.
Speaker 4: They hired the first pagan priestess to serve as one
Speaker 4: of the institutions to acting chaplains, so they had one
Speaker 4: Christian chaplain and one Pagans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've witnessed some of those pagan ceremonies. It was
Speaker 1: weird to hit like a old wooden little like Knight standing.
Speaker 1: There's a lamp on it, and they're all that was weird.
Speaker 1: The native stuff is cool.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Wow, I learned a lot today.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You brought a lot to the table. And you've had
Speaker 4: quite a journey. You're only thirty three and you've had
Speaker 4: a lot of success of sharing the knowledge to other people.
Speaker 4: And thanks for coming on and sharing your knowledge, and
Speaker 4: as always, we give you the final.
Speaker 1: Word, and thanks for having me. I appreciate that. Wow,
Speaker 1: did this go by quick? But I got to use
Speaker 1: this as an opportunity because it's because I'm not I
Speaker 1: lose my voice. I kind of have a lost doll
Speaker 1: because if anybody gives me any chance, it's like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna send it and tell them everything, because I
Speaker 1: think that's why this happened to me. And if I
Speaker 1: didn't do it, it would be it's not meant to
Speaker 1: be like I think, I'm I'm supposed to just do
Speaker 1: something with this, okay, because even if I was of spokes,
Speaker 1: So it's hard to just sit with this. You can't
Speaker 1: just sit like it is you. It's the biggest that'sive
Speaker 1: urgency I've ever had. So bet, thank you aguys for
Speaker 1: having me George, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for coming on and sharing the knowledge. Pardon
Speaker 4: me and we'll get your email address. So, folks, if
Speaker 4: you wanted to reach out to Jordan, by the time
Speaker 4: this airs, his email address will be in the show notes.
Speaker 4: You can reach out a lot of interesting show notes
Speaker 4: today from what we've talked about, a lot free to research.
Speaker 4: I encourage you specifically to look at the Wapoon Correctional
Speaker 4: Institution and the pictures. I'll put that in the show notes.
Speaker 4: And again a lot of this architecture just it looks
Speaker 4: like a castle from England. It's it's unbelievable. So check
Speaker 4: that out and you know, let your journey continue again
Speaker 4: for Jordan, thanks so much for joining us to the listeners.
Speaker 4: Thank you all for your continued support. God bless you all.
Speaker 4: Have a wonderful week and until we meet again, my friends,
Speaker 4: we will see it.
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