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I tried 18 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.000 to not make this one many times. They said, Nah, 19 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.600 it's too much work, will anyone even care? But I 20 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:59.439 wanted it. I wanted this episode. I needed a collage 21 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:02.439 of aids, kind of like a vision board for the 22 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:04.799 summer that's to come. Also, what is summer? 23 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:05.200 Well? 24 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:08.319 Years ago I made a minisot about it, called astatology, 25 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:11.480 I think. And we learned then that the Earth's axis 26 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.079 is a little wonky, It's a little tilted. So as 27 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:17.040 we cruise around the sun, one hemisphere gets more direct 28 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:19.120 sunlight and the other gets less for a bit, and 29 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:22.200 the result is three months of us wearing horts. And 30 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:25.519 here in the northern hemisphere, where my actual rump is 31 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.840 wearing jorts, summer just started. Southern Hemisphere, folks, feel free 32 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:32.959 to listen if you have some winter blues going on, 33 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:37.079 maybe you want to transport yourself to the boiling, roiling 34 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.200 conditions of America at the moment. But also included are 35 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.959 some updates from just what's happening in my very small 36 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:45.840 corner of the world family wise, which I save for 37 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:47.799 the secrets at the end because maybe only some of 38 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:50.959 you care. My family's going through some stuff. I'm going 39 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:53.799 through some stuff. It's at the end of the episode. Also, 40 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:56.400 if you care about the podcast, thank you for telling 41 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.560 your friends or for joining Patreon for a dollar or 42 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.920 more a month. Patreon dot com slash ologies and rating 43 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:05.319 and leaving reviews. I read all of them, and you 44 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:07.760 have left so many sweet ones this week. But I 45 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.120 did want to address a few that made me laugh 46 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.039 a little bit at you, and I'm sorry, I just 47 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.759 want to help. So Annoyed seven twenty eight left a 48 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.520 one star review that said really annoying that episodes will 49 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.319 skip back and Annoyed seven twenty eight We have covered 50 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:26.599 this before, but apparently it just bears repeating. That is 51 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:29.479 not how the episodes are edited. That is not actually 52 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:32.919 the episodes. That's your spotty cell service or your bad WiFi. 53 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:38.120 Download the whole episode before you listen. Problem solved while 54 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:41.800 you're on the good WiFi. Feel free to edit your 55 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:44.960 review and say thanks for the hot tip, Internet Dad. Also, 56 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.080 I'd like to help a reviewer by the name of 57 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.680 Tired of foul Mounts who objected to our occasional swear 58 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.680 words and wrote rated E and science base should be 59 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:58.560 safe to listen to, even with children and Tired of 60 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.879 foul Mouths number one. We do have free g Ratedsmologies 61 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:05.360 episodes available right in the made podcast feed. They're also 62 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.800 up at alleywoard dot com slash smologies. We make them 63 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:11.639 just for that reason. We also offer full free bleeped 64 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:15.199 episodes at alleyward dot com slash Ologies extras. Both are 65 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.400 linked in the show notes for you and your children. 66 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:19.560 But I just want to say, tired of foul mouths. 67 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:24.240 That the rated E that you mentioned that means explicit 68 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:29.000 The E does not stand for educational or everyone. The 69 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.840 red E literally means don't listen with children. So not 70 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.960 knowing this might be why you're so tired of foul mouse. 71 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:38.240 Tired of foul mouse. So I hope that helps will 72 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.960 be good. Okay, Now, the other literal ninety nine percent 73 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:43.039 of you who leave wonderful reviews and you understand that 74 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:45.240 science is weird and hilarious and that grownups deserve the 75 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:48.159 juicy parts. I appreciate every review. It keeps a show 76 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:52.360 in the top science podcast. Okay, great talks. Yes, sometimes 77 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:54.879 I swear when I feel emotionally moved to. Because this 78 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:56.840 is free entertainment. I try to just show up as 79 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.719 exactly the person I am for you all. On that note, ologies, 80 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.800 I is at its best when I'm making episodes that 81 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.960 make me a little nauseated with joy, like this one, 82 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.360 to just help us get excited about and have context 83 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:13.199 for all these summer wonders around us. So kickback for 84 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:20.279 a compilation of snorkeling tips. Shark statistics, firefly safaris, constitutional 85 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:26.120 law questions, the science of makeouts, appreciation for hornets, horniness 86 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:31.680 for foraging cabins, campfires, crevis checking, jellyfish tips, bear safety, 87 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:36.920 the importance of handwritten memories, and actual scientific advice on 88 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:41.040 how to find joy amid difficult conditions. Your summer vibe 89 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:44.399 has arrived. So let's start with an ologist who studies 90 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:48.040 the season themselves. A researcher at the Page Museum at 91 00:04:48.079 --> 00:05:12.279 the Librea Tarpits in Los Angeles, phonologist doctor Libby Elwood. Okay, so, 92 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.920 first off, summer, why is it. 93 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:17.240 During the summer, A lot of things have settled down. 94 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:20.120 So once the migratory birds have arrived, for example, they're 95 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:23.040 there to breed, and so they do their thing all summer, 96 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.680 they're hanging out, and then they will start their southern 97 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.560 migration usually in the fall. So that's another thing too 98 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:31.000 that we have a lookout for. Be on the lookout for. 99 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:33.680 Also that would be when the leaves start to change 100 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:36.120 color and leaves fall, and then you know, it's pretty 101 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:36.920 quiet for the winter. 102 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:41.920 What is a rundown of the function of each season? 103 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:44.240 We did to think of summer as like this feeding 104 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.240 season and then kind of like a feast and a 105 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:51.720 famine through winter is Does that do anything for plants, 106 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:56.079 like to reset their cycles or anything for animals? Oh? 107 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:59.360 Yeah, right, So birds will often have, at least in 108 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.759 the northern hemis, their breeding season is in the summer. 109 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:06.519 So during the winter they're fattening up, they're getting ready 110 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:10.759 they come back north, and they're establishing their territories, building 111 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.879 their nests and then making a family. And so there 112 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.000 are those kinds of things with certain animals. And then 113 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:20.879 for plants to plants have a chilling requirement in the 114 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:23.720 northern hemisphere, so they'll need to actually be dormant for 115 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:27.399 a certain amount of time to then recognize that it's 116 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.319 getting warmer again and to know that they could start 117 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:33.519 producing flowers and leaves and that spring is here. But 118 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.639 if they don't get that chilling requirement, if we were 119 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:38.319 to have a really warm winter, for example, and doesn't 120 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:40.720 get cold enough for them to meet their chilling requirement, 121 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:42.800 then their spring phrenology can be thrown off. 122 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.480 So this time is the time when your under boobs 123 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.800 weep with sweat and your hormones say maybe at my nest, 124 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:53.360 and your brain dreams of bouncing out of town like bye, 125 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:55.720 and maybe you are one of the lucky few who 126 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.839 can dip your bod in some water or nap by 127 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:02.600 a splashing sea. And I asked marine biologist policy expert 128 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.199 in oceanology guest doctor Iana Elizabeth Johnson about how to 129 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.279 enjoy the ocean. Do you listen to any ocean apps 130 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:10.480 on your phone to chill out? 131 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:12.519 Like ocean sounds? 132 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:12.639 Like? 133 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:16.839 Yeah, No, I put earplugs in and just like Zone 134 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:17.560 all the Way app. 135 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.439 I wasn't sure if someone who studies the ocean and 136 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.439 has dedicated their life to essentially saving the ocean would 137 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.759 be like, I don't I don't want to hear an 138 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.319 app because it's just a bad simulation. 139 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.800 Or yeah, I'm a pretty light sleeper, Okay, so I 140 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:41.879 like complete silence, and I think, yeah, as someone who 141 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:46.519 is like ninety five percent vegan mm hmm and who 142 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.360 never eats fake meat, is maybe the same thing, right, 143 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:52.000 Like I'm not going to go have like a soy 144 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:54.240 hot dog and I'm not going to listen to like 145 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:55.480 fake ocean sounds. 146 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:00.319 Do you do a lot of like diving? You have 147 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:01.240 to do a lot of diving. 148 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.839 I used to, Yeah, for my PHDV search, I did 149 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:06.120 three or four hundred dives. 150 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.519 Do you like being underwater? I know some people are like, 151 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.199 it's so beautiful, it's like I'm flying, and other people 152 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.120 like it's so big it's terrifying. It's pretty cool. 153 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:15.279 Yeah. 154 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:17.600 I mean some people think that if you don't scuba dive, 155 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:20.759 you can't experience the ocean fully, and I totally disagree 156 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:23.480 with that. I think scuba diving is nice because I 157 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.240 can't hold my breath for an hour. 158 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:26.040 Yeah, I neither can. 159 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.399 I I only learned to dive when I realized that 160 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.600 I needed to as a tool for my scientific research, 161 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.120 and it's pretty neat. I mean, to be able to, 162 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:39.480 you know, be underwater long enough to really watch the 163 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:44.120 behavior of an octopus or a parrot fish or whatever 164 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:48.240 it is is an amazing opportunity. But I think snorkeling 165 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:49.039 is underrated. 166 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:49.840 Yeah. 167 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.120 I think more people should get like super into snorkeling 168 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:56.720 because you can see so much despite you know, diving 169 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:58.960 down and taking a look and being in shallow water. 170 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:01.879 So I hate the thought that people think if you're 171 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.759 not scuba diving and then like why bother because there's 172 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.200 so much you can learn about the sea and just 173 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.639 enjoy like the spectacular creatures from the surface or from 174 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.120 like a little shallow dive down with your mask on. 175 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:16.279 You just got to learn that trick where you blow 176 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:18.320 the water out when you surface. 177 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:19.159 Right, Yeah, okay? 178 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:20.240 Is that hard to master? 179 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:22.960 Now you can totally do it. Anyone can do okay. 180 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:26.240 Or sometimes when I like don't have enough air left 181 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:28.440 in my lungs when I come after the surface for 182 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.679 whatever reason, I just take the mouthpiece out and just 183 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:36.000 breathe are normally you could do that too. There are 184 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.759 definitely ways that anyone can figure this out. 185 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:42.039 Can't get to an ocean? Can you just pick up 186 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.440 a dusty shell from your ant's guest bathroom. Let's ask 187 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:51.519 actual shell expert Biominerology episode guest in Human Delight rob Ulrich. Okay, 188 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:53.960 A lot of people, a lot of people wanted to know. 189 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.480 Can you hear the ocean in shells? What makes them 190 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.240 sound like the ocean? Ras says. I heard that the 191 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.600 sound is created by blood moving in our own ears 192 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.039 being echoed by the shell. Do people ask this of 193 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:08.080 you when you tell them you study shells. 194 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:12.360 I feel like nobody ever asks me anything. I would 195 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:16.759 love more questions about shells all the time. And I 196 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.279 really want to say yes, because it sounds very magical, 197 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:23.200 but the answer is no, unfortunately. And it's also not 198 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:26.559 necessarily you hearing your own blood either. It's just that 199 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:29.200 like shells, and this is the reason why they also 200 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:32.200 have been used for instruments in the past, is just 201 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:36.159 that shells are so efficient and effective at amplifying sound 202 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:38.039 that whenever you put your ear up to the shell, 203 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.679 it's really just amplifying the sound of the ambient noise 204 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:43.559 and like air moving around, so. 205 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:47.200 Flim flam busted. The noise that you hear from shells 206 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:51.279 has a name. It's called seashell resonance. But that ambient 207 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:55.799 amplification would also work with like an empty Starbucks cup. 208 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:59.000 So I'm sorry to have just broken your heart. Curious 209 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:03.159 Land mermaids including Christa Charter, Rachel Moore, Elizabeth Ross, Kate Rampy, 210 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:06.000 Kelly Windsor Teak and Andrews, Megan Y and Slivia Meyer, 211 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:10.720 and Dealeno Pelt. Somewhere between the turquoise shimmer of the 212 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:14.679 Caribbean and a nautical display at a Michael's craft store, 213 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.720 there is a place, and it's called Florida. But it 214 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:19.840 may hurt you like a real son of a beach. 215 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:27.120 Why Vince Alasha asks, why are Florida beaches covered in shells? 216 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.879 So many cuts in my feet and then there's four 217 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:30.960 exclamation points. 218 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:34.799 Yeah, it's actually the shape of Florida and like the 219 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:38.960 surrounding bits of lander islands that causes that to happen. 220 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:42.240 A lot of the islands run parallel to Florida, and 221 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:45.639 so they're like aligned with the water currents running around 222 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:49.320 Florida itself. However, beaches like Santa bell I think that 223 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:52.279 it starts with an s. It's actually perpendicular, and so 224 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:55.279 it sort of catches all the shells that come out 225 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:57.320 of that current, and that's why it has so many 226 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.200 more shells and a lot of other beaches. 227 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.759 Oh okay, So do you think if you were to 228 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:06.360 find a shell from someplace in Florida and there were 229 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.080 a lot of them, it would be okay to take home? 230 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:10.600 Or is it still like leave them on the beach? 231 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.360 I think to be safe, leave them on the beach. 232 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:17.519 But I'm sure if you take one, it's like fine, definitely, 233 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:20.039 not if they're alive or but if they're like fully 234 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:25.519 still like formed and like together, you probably should leave them, Okay. 235 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:29.279 Not a beach person. I get it if you happen 236 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:30.960 to have found a small bucket of money buried in 237 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:32.960 your backyard and you can use it for a quick 238 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:35.039 summer break. Maybe you want a head straight for the 239 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:38.879 hills and get cozy around the smell of some melted 240 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.879 pine sap. Or you can just stare at some hashtags 241 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:44.799 and you can sketch up your own shack. Let's ask 242 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:50.440 Minnesota based architect and real life cabinologist guest Dale Mulfinger, 243 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.559 how do you feel that social media culture or Instagram 244 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.080 culture has maybe changed the way we appreciate these remote 245 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.080 buildings or structures. 246 00:12:59.559 --> 00:12:59.919 Or a tree. 247 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:04.480 Well, one big difference is that we now can rent 248 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:09.039 structures everywhere, and part of that is made accessible through 249 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:13.639 social media. So we can now not just have, say, 250 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.240 our own cabin, but we can rent anybody and everybody 251 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.200 else's cabin almost anywhere in the world. And I think 252 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:22.960 that's really changed. And then we can immediately share that 253 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:28.159 experience with an innumerable number of people. So you know, 254 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.120 those are probably the big things that have changed through 255 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.000 the media as we understand it today. 256 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:36.679 Are you okay? Are you okay with that with cabin sharing? 257 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:39.759 And are sure sure no, absolutely. In fact, I think 258 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.320 one of the phenomena about cabins is that we feel 259 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.519 much more comfortable with sharing our cabin with others than 260 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.320 we say to our home, So we're less likely to 261 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:54.279 offer up our home as a place for strangers to 262 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:59.879 stay in, whereas cabins traditionally were places where maybe we'd 263 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.679 a lot. We weren't accommodating strangers, but we were accommodating 264 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:09.440 Uncle Harry and cousin Beth and the colleague we work with, 265 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.000 you know, so we've often shared our cabin with diverse people. 266 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:16.159 Do you have any memories of being in a cabin 267 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:17.320 that are some of your favorites? 268 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.080 Well, I think snowfalling and sitting quietly reading a book 269 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.559 with a fire crackling and my wife's good cooking smells 270 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.360 in the background is probably one of my best experiences. 271 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.519 Or looking out the window and seeing the five or 272 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.320 six deer that are reading the corn just set out there. 273 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.200 You know, those are some of the best. And I 274 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:44.399 think then I've had an opportunity to gather larger family 275 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:49.200 groups together, not necessarily in my cabin because mike cabin 276 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.840 is a bit too small for that, but through the 277 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:55.679 borrowing of friends, cabins or renting a friend's cabin. I've 278 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.480 been able to gather say, sixteen of my wife's family 279 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.840 members together. That made the very special occasion. 280 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.279 Okay, quick aside, I made you a list of things 281 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:06.840 you can do in a cabin this summer. You can 282 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:10.080 play dominoes. You can read a book. You can gossip. 283 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:14.000 You can ask older people important questions about their lives. 284 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.480 You can carve spoons. You can learn to needle point. 285 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.759 You can roast marshmallows. You can write a list of 286 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:22.080 all the things you want to do in your life. 287 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.720 You can make your friends all tell stories about how 288 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.360 they met each other. You can enjoy a poem. You 289 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:29.639 can bake a pie. You can sip coffee out of 290 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.360 one of those metal enamel mugs that they sell in 291 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.679 camping stores. You could write a short story. You can 292 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:38.399 learn to fry a fish. You could nap. You can 293 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.519 throw your phone into the lake. You can quit your job. 294 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.480 You can disappear from the internet. You can live off 295 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:47.960 the land like that Walden throw guy. Hope you don't 296 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.840 get arrested. You can wish on a shooting star. I 297 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:53.559 also like playing Rummy Cube. Okay, now let's say, you 298 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:55.720 want a taste of that cabin life, but maybe a 299 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:59.559 little closer. You could fashion a garbon, which sounds like 300 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.240 a port han to for garbage and bin, but it's 301 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:05.559 actually a cabin you fashion in the rafters above a 302 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.960 garage a garbin. Now, what about a straight up cabin 303 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:09.639 in your backyard? 304 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:10.039 Is that? 305 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:10.360 Okay? 306 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:15.320 I've certainly recorded cabins that occur in the backyard of 307 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.159 somebody's home. Now they might think of that cabin as 308 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:24.480 a man cave to escape to, or her writing place 309 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:26.840 that she can retreat to for writing. We call that 310 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:27.799 a scriptorium. 311 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:30.720 Oh, I've heard called it, she shed, Yes. 312 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:35.000 She said. So, I think that's not uncommon, and I've 313 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:38.200 recorded a few of those in books I've done and 314 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:39.519 in articles I've written. 315 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.639 Yeah, I guess a cabin is kind of like our 316 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:47.000 childhood version of a fort, but realized and with plumbing. 317 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:50.679 Yes, well, you know, and some not with plumbing or 318 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:56.840 the outhouse or whatever nearby. But yeah, it might have 319 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:00.399 some modicum of plumbing and in some way to heat up, 320 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.360 which maybe our little fort when we're kidnaping. 321 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:09.359 Yeah, so who forwarded? Maybe you perhaps this summer, maybe 322 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:11.079 you have a patch of backyard, or you have a 323 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:14.480 generous friend with one and can make a tiny respite 324 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.880 out of some recycled palette wood and just get away 325 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.039 from the world. Maybe you can listen to podcasts radio. Hey, Now, 326 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:24.119 if you're somewhere it's safe to do so, you could 327 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:27.400 bring some cabin vibes to your own patio with a little, 328 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.799 tiny campfire. If you missed the Pyrotechnology episode with Yale 329 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:35.359 Pyrotechnology lib researcher and anthropologist doctor Ellery Fram, we cover 330 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:40.440 how our species interacts with those flickering, dancing flames. Have 331 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:44.880 researchers looked into like oxytocin levels at all? While you're 332 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.720 looking at a campfire? Is there something that is comforting 333 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.759 innately to us even though fire is dangerous. 334 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.440 I don't know about that specifically. That's that's a really 335 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.559 good question, but yeah, no, I'd agree there is that 336 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:02.359 kind of satisfaction of it as well. Is that something 337 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:07.400 like inherently biological and controlled by hormones is a really 338 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.720 good question? Or if it's if it's something we're essentially 339 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:13.759 conditioned to do. You know what a baby who hasn't 340 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:18.799 been raised, you know, within around campfires find discomforting or 341 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:19.559 terrifying it. 342 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.400 Okay, So if you would like some science to explain 343 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:26.279 why you love campfires, I will point you toward the 344 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.640 twenty fourteen paper Hearth and Campfire Influences on arterial blood 345 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:35.319 pressure defraying the costs of the social brain through fireside relaxation, 346 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:41.200 which explains quote. Fires involve flickering light, crackling sounds, warmth, 347 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.559 and a distinctive smell. For early humans, fire likely extended 348 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.680 the day, provided heat, helped with hunting, warded off predators 349 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:54.319 and insects, illuminated dark places, and facilitated cooking. Campfires also 350 00:18:54.359 --> 00:18:58.279 may have provided social nexus and relaxation effects. They could 351 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:02.359 have enhanced pro social behavior end quote. So this study 352 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.680 took two hundred and twenty six subjects and measured their 353 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:08.559 blood pressure, and then they randomly put some people in 354 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.799 front of a control image while others got video of 355 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.359 a campfire with the sound down, and other subjects got 356 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:19.880 the full pop and crackle treatment too. So what happened. 357 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:25.839 Researchers found consistent blood pressure decreases in the fire with 358 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:31.119 sound folks, particularly with a longer duration of gazing. At 359 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:33.720 the video and on my website, I have linked on 360 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:38.240 YouTube that offers twelve hours of free mule log action, 361 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:41.880 so you can relax without worrying about a forest fire 362 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.160 or having your hair smell like beef jerky. What about 363 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:50.759 the importance of cooking food and avoiding parasites? At some point, 364 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:53.440 did we learn how to boil water or how has 365 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:57.319 fire contributed to our actual living longer? 366 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:01.400 Yeah, no, that's a great question that there is some 367 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:04.799 evidence for boiling as being in kind of like pits 368 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:08.039 in the ground, being more of the first instance of 369 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.599 cooking in like a pot, you know, over a campfire. 370 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:15.039 Because again, that's a very recent innovation in terms of 371 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:19.960 living longer. I mean in a certain way. Evolution doesn't 372 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:21.799 care about it that much. 373 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.559 They're like, you make babies or not. Okay, get out 374 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:28.160 of here, you're done. 375 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:29.279 Yeah, exactly. 376 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:33.319 And I mean so for Neanderthal you and I are 377 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:35.440 you know, of a good age? 378 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:35.960 Yeah? 379 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:39.240 Oh god, Oh we're fossils. Can you imagine they're like, 380 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:41.559 what gray hair? 381 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:42.279 What is it? 382 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:43.160 Yeah? 383 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:44.960 I did have to explain this, like just to my 384 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:47.680 students a week or two ago when I showed them 385 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.640 replica Neanderthal bones from an. 386 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:57.119 Old man who was probably around you know, forty five, right, Yeah, exactly. So, 387 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:00.400 so on a certain way, it doesn't matter on in 388 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.519 terms of living longer, but even in terms of like 389 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.640 you know, pest control or something like that in a cave, 390 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:09.480 if you're trying to avoid like getting bit by a bat, 391 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.599 you could potentially use fire as a way to clear 392 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:15.160 out bats and mice or something like that from a 393 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.160 cave or something like that. 394 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:22.359 So there certainly are potential health aspects that deep in 395 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:25.680 the past that using fire as a tool could could 396 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.519 have assisted with. Do I think that humans figured out 397 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:31.559 like if you boil water it gets rid of the germs. 398 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:32.400 No, I don't. 399 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.839 I don't think that was at all on anyone's minds. 400 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:39.640 Over all of your research. Do people ever ask you 401 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:43.160