Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone to a new episode. If you're wrong
with Molly Hemingway and David Harsani. Just as a reminder,
if you'd like to email the show, please do so
at radio at the Federalist dot com. So, Molly, are
you all revved up and excited about the DNC? Have
you been watching what's going on?
Speaker 2: I mean, who couldn't be excited about the Democrat National Convention.
I am not watching except via Twitter. I'm finding that
I get a lot of my news via Twitter, more
than any other delivery device. So I have I feel
like I'm aware of what's going on, and I'm seeing
snippets and I'm following what the speeches are saying, but
I do not have the time, and neither do I
have the energy to actually watch. Are you watching or what?
Speaker 1: I only saw snippets from the first night. I watched
all the primetime speeches. Yesterday we had Bernie Sanders. It's
still it's still remarkable to me that a National Convention
is a full bone COMI speaking like it's completely normal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to talk about that, but do
you mind if we first talk about Monday night and
what he did to Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Oh having him speak. I think it was after midnight.
So do you think that they planned and purposely pushed
him off so that he wouldn't be seen by people
because it's so embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, And I will say that one thing
that is weird that has happened in recent years is
that Republicans began running a much better and tighter and
better produced convention than Democrats. And it used to be
exactly the opposite. I thought, you know, the content might
be good on the Republican side, but the actual show
running it wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good as
the Hollywood produced Democrat conventions were. And then in recent
years it's just kind of flipped, like the Republican convention
was tight and well run and it was enjoyable for participants,
and all of my reporter friends who are there have
been complaining about how much worse this one is than
the Republican convention. So I don't know, but it was
a mean thing to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a mean thing to do. I
mean I sometimes begin to feel bad for him and
what's happening to him, and then I hear him speak
and I realize he's just such a terrible person that
I don't really care anymore, and I think he deserves it.
Of course, the most the line that stood out to
me in the speech, which was not in the prepared text,
was that he said that the people outside, meaning the
pro Hamas anti American protesters, had a point. I think
he said something like that really off putting. I would
say that I try to be you know, in my
I try not to be biased about it, but just
doesn't seem like there was really it seems a big
contrived There doesn't seem to be the organic excitement that
I felt from watching the DNC. Or you have something
else to say, jump back.
Speaker 2: I want to on the Hamas thing. You know, there's
nothing inherently wrong with trying to see the perspective of
a protester or see what their point is. It just
is infuriating to me that the same man who in
the same speech lies about Donald Trump's Charlottesville speech where
he said that there were good people who don't want
to tear down statues in addition to the you know,
sort of bad people who were there as part of
a white supremacist group, you know, lying about that and
then saying that the Hamas people have a point. It's
what I find particularly infuriating.
Speaker 1: I mean, he lied about what Trump's said, and then
he said the thing that he lied about, he said
there were very fine people on both sides. Basically. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He also lied about the bloodbath comments, where he was
saying where Trump said there would be an economic blood bath,
and he's like he's calling for genocide, which is not true.
He also lied about the sucker, suckers and losers hoax,
which has been cannot be refuted anymore with on the
record sources, but Democrats just keep saying it. And then
he also claimed that he controlled the border and that
the border invasion was worse under Trump than under him,
which is just a brazen line. He also said that
crime was down. You know, crime reporting is down, but
crime isn't down, meaning a lot of municipalities have changed
so that they just don't report crime. That does not
mean crime is going down, if anything the opposite. Do
you get any stats, as the Wire says, yeah, how.
Speaker 1: Many people live in urban areas feel like crime is down?
I mean, and you know, I know, you know, sometimes
sticks tell a different story. But like you say, the
Duke the stats, but also maybe murderer is down in
one city, but then carjackings are up or you know,
there are all kinds of there's all kinds of criminality.
But yeah, he lied. I wanted to talk about this
because there is the blatant line that went on. Now, listen,
I get it, everyone exaggerates, everyone says things, but the
Blaine line that went out on in day two, they
were speeches that I was trying to figure out if
they could say a single truthful thing about Republicans, and
you know, it was just it was crazy. Who's the
I think the governor of Illinois j D pink pink
pin scar something prit scrit. He gave a speech that
I don't think had it legitimately did not have a
single truthful comment in it. You know, he accused, but
we'll get to that in a second. So it you know,
so what they did was mean. I don't know if
they did it on purpose, but you know, it was
actually wasn't I watched snippets. I think Biden was terrible.
It was as usual, I guess, And the first day
didn't have any defining moments, right, there was no big
speech that everyone's talking about I don't think.
Speaker 2: Oh no, someone told me that Philip Bump, who's the
propagandist at the Washington Post, said that Biden's speech is
a speech that will we talked about for you the decades.
Speaker 1: I forgot about just on this podcast. I forgot that
he had spoken the first Dame when we started. So
I just I don't think that that's true. But maybe
I again, I just the way people get excited at
these things is confusing to me. So I tried to
do my best to understand what's going on, but I
wanted to say, yes, there doesn't seem to be this
organic excitement, like everyone's holding USA signs, and I just
I hate to call my political opponents unpatriotic, but I
just don't buy it that all those people of America
in that way and it's all the same sign It's
obviously just contrived and most of the stuff is I
get it, but I didn't feel that.
Speaker 2: So not say in their quote unquote defense, Yes, partly
they are more what would you say, globalist and they're
thinking than American patriots. But it's also true that what
we have in this country right now are just two
very different visions for what America should be. And if
you look at it that way, then each side loves
America just in a different way, or they have a
different idea about what America is.
Speaker 1: I think that it's true that we have different ideas
about how, you know, what makes us Americans and what
makes America great. I don't think that the modern progressives
beliefs comport with any view of this country because the idea,
you know, they are saying that American's an idea. I
think it's both an idea and a country. But the
ideas are in the Constitution, and they don't particularly like
that document. So I don't really feel like they're pro America.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Do I keep asking you if you've read Christopher Caldwell's
book on this, the.
Speaker 1: One about like where he goes to the sixty I
forget what it's called. Yes, yes, I did, I forget it.
That's a good book.
Speaker 2: I mean, but you know how his whole point is
sort of that there are two constitutions. One is the
United States Constitution and one is the Civil Rights Act basically,
and so if you again to just kind of be
labor this point, a lot of conservatives love the America
as defined sort of this in the United States Constitution
and then a lot of people on the left love
in America that they have created through the administrative state.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to jump ahead, and a lot
of a lot of the speeches had then, you know,
noted that Democrats want to protect democracy, and then the
next sentence would be some program from the Great Society
or from FDR that is their constitution as well. It
has nothing to do with the first you know, the
Bill of Rights or anything of that nature. So yeah,
I completely buy that argument. I think they should be
more honest about it. Obama did this and we'll get
to him in the second one. When he was president,
is redefined what freedom really meant. You know, freedom means
not being scared that people have guns or whatever, you know,
and just we'll get to him in a minute. I
had started not to hate him as much as I did,
or detest what he does, and then hearing him and
his wife speak brought back all these horrifying memories.
Speaker 2: So I feel that way about all politicians that when
they're off the stage, I don't hate them nearly as much.
Some I retain my dislike very strongly. Yeah, But like
when Mitt Romney isn't talking. I don't care that much
about him.
Speaker 1: Well, let me just say that Democrats are unrestrained with
the lying, like they just make stuff up. There's no
not that they are fact checked, but even if they were,
they don't care. So they lied about like you said,
many of them lied that about the Charlottesville. Charlottesville hoax,
I'll call it, like many of them they said. Many
of them said that Donald Trump told people to inject bleach,
which is not lime.
Speaker 2: You're seeing how people who are low information fall for
that one.
Speaker 1: But go on, then Chuck Schumer, who has a party
filled with anti Semites, filled with them right now, and
he ignores that, said that Donald Trump was an anti Semite,
that he was peddling anti Semitism. Then this weird thing
that they're doing now is they mentioned in vitro fertilization
IVF in every speech. In every speech, almost someone mentioned
that Republicans want to take IVF away from you. Now
we've spoken about this issue. I don't have that very
strong feelings about it, honestly, but Donald Trump specifically said
he would not do that when we asked. I tried
to find a single instance of Jade events even talking
about it, and I couldn't. I'm not saying it doesn't exist,
but certainly it's not central to his campaign. He's Catholic,
so he's probably against it. And yet that's just a
blatant lie. I mean, and they just repeated it must
poll well, and we'll get to uh Tim Walls in
a minute and his his lie on that. But then
after all this lying last night, Obama, the Obamas get
up there and lecture America again on how they need
to be more decent and better. They're very Michelle is
extremely disappointed in how things have gone. Barack Obama. You know,
here's what Barack Obama does. He goes up there and
he says, you know, half of America just a bunch
of slack jawed, racist yokels, you know, who need to
be taught how to be better people. And then he's like,
and it's really sad how politics are tearing us apart.
Like so many of our problems go back to that presidency.
The way he came in and acted like a king,
The way Congress passed Obamacare without any kind of national consensus.
It was the first time anything like that happened. The
way they just legalized tens of millions of illegal immigrants,
you know, ignoring the law the way the way they
did their political opponents as enemies of decency rather than
people they disagreed with, as racists, as misogynists. They are,
you know, they're at the heart of a lot of
the problems we have right now. I think Donald Trump,
and I've always said this was a reaction to Barack Obama.
I don't think Donald Trump exists without Barack Obama anyway.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite lines I said on Special Report
before Trump's inauguration was that Trump was Barack Obama's ultimate legacy.
You do not get Trump without the Barack Obama presidency.
I agree with everything you say. When I watched him
talk about how you know, there are these awful people,
like half the country are just evil, and then the
problem is that they fear monger, and I'm like, but
you're not fear mongering right now with what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they say. One think he actually said that there
was a cult of personality and it was problematic around Trump.
Speaker 2: But it reminded me of just how much that era
was awful and how that era really brought. You know,
you could also say that George Bush's legacy has brock Obama,
so it kind of goes back and forth here as well.
But I hated that era that like constant focus on
division and racism and making everything racist, and it was
a real setback. I think I've mentioned before that one
of the worst things I ever said in terms of
getting it wrong, was that I thought that the Obama
presidency would be good for race relations. And my husband
was like, are you high right now? And he was right,
as he is about so many things, but it was
to be kind of dragged back into that speaking of
the saying things that are exactly the opposite of what
you claim to be saying. Michelle Obama saying that her
family taught her to to oppose people who have too
much wealth. Ay, that's not a very American thing. To
oppose one thing that makes America great, as opposed to
other countries that have the whole tall Poppy syndrome or whatever,
other countries where if you achieve beyond your station in life,
you are dragged back down. In America, we tend to
celebrate achievement, whether that's athletic or financial, or academic or otherwise.
And Michelle Obama's talking about how her parents taught her
that you shouldn't take more than your do or something.
This is a family that has never really had private
sector experience, yet gets outside of government and become near billionaires.
I mean they have palatial houses with more bedrooms than
every house I've ever lived in combined, you know, and
they make so much money and they travel all over
the world in these fancy, elite vacation where they don't
have to deal with normal people. It was like, really, you,
Michelle Obama, who's got more money than you could possibly
know what to do with and only through the corruption
of government do you have that money? You know? I
think Donald Trump is literally the only major president or
vice president to not make money by being in office.
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Speaker 1: They also said some thinks so stupid it was. Let
me just say, I actually think she's quite a good speaker.
People disagree with me, some of our colleagues, But I
just I think she can speak to the normal person
in an interesting way and just talented in that way.
But she's just it's like she can deliver a platitude
like no one else. But she said, we have to stop.
Did she call it the affirmative action of inherited wealth?
She said, which sounds super calmy to me. You know
what I mean, what does she mean? Is she not
going to lead money to her kids Barack Obama bank rolls.
Speaker 2: See, even if she even if she didn't, because of
the corruption of our regime, even the children of wealthy
are able to achieve wealth, or the children of powerful
are able to achieve wealth. You look at Hunter Biden
and the Biden family business. Not just Hunter, but every
member of the Biden family was able to cash out,
getting millions upon millions of dollars from corrupt foreign governments
and foreign oligarchs change for their proximity to power. So
it's even you know, yes, of course they have. They've
given their generational wealth to their children. But even if
they didn't, they give their generational access to wealth to
their children. And again, if it were in the industry
and not government, you know, this wouldn't be such a
bad thing anyway.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I hate the term public service when
we're talking about people become millionaires like Barack Obama, who
who was a community organizer, he bankrolled that within a
few years into I don't know how much money they have.
They're building a mansion on a Hawaiian beach right now.
On the whole entire beach is there, so I assume
that's like a seventy million dollar mansion or something.
Speaker 2: But her mom cautioned her against people who have too much.
So I'm sure that speech will be something we can
all access and we will be provided trips to.
Speaker 1: But I was anyway watching them, I was reminded of
the line by George Willy years ago, and he said
that Obama was a pyromaniac and a field of straw men.
That's exactly what his speech was like. He just knocked
out one nonsensical straw man after the next. It just
reminded me of his presidency, which I was very frustrating
because he has a you know, he's a way of
lecturing you about things that he's doing. It it's like projection,
I guess. But anyway, he spoke, and it did make
me think. It didn't remind me of how much more
talented he was, and how much more talented Bill was
Bill Clinton than the crop we have today thank Kamala,
or than Joe or than any of these people. They're
just better speakers, They're more exciting. Reminded me of that.
I just don't think they have kind of charisma anymore
that those those candidates did. Because for all, I think
Obama was a terrible president, but he won, you know,
he won pretty two terms, pretty easily, frankly, you know,
and he was he was a good politician, god giving speeches,
terrible at governing. Dizzy.
Speaker 2: I wanted to mention was how Michelle Obama kept talking
about how like Hope is having a comeback and her
husband or her husband's vice president have been the president
for twelve of the last sixteen years, like what's including
the current year, so Hope is having a comeback because
of Kamala who's currently in office.
Speaker 1: As then their speeches, Yeah, the speeches spoke about Trump
as if he was incumbent and the Biden administration had
never happened. It was very I don't know, it's a
weird way to approach it. I mean, Barack Obama did
say some nice things about Joe Biden, some ridiculous things
about him. I'm not even sure if Michelle even mentioned him,
and she was just also, they promised to fix healthcare,
they promised, you know, she apparently Barack Obama was going
to fix climate change, all these things, and now we're
she said something like, we're at our darkest hour or
something like that. It's such an insane wait.
Speaker 2: A moment when the oceans rise began to fall or whatever.
Speaker 1: But no matter how often they rule, we're still constantly
at the cusp of despair and destruction and the end
of our country. It's just I don't understand, you know,
why people keep buying into that kind of thinking. Whatever.
Speaker 2: The other thing is that the corporate media, the propaganda press,
and other Democrats are all focusing on this joy idea.
Speaker 1: So the.
Speaker 2: Way this works is, yes, Kamala Harris is the incumbent,
and yes, the country is going in the wrong direction.
According to all but twenty five percent of Americans right,
and the economy is bad and inflation is bad, and
crime is bad, and the border is open, and foreign
policy situation is more perilous than it has been in decades.
But we're joyful. So they're thinking, like if we pretend
we're joyful, if we say we're joyful, people might forget
about how much it costs to go to the grocery store.
And every time they do these like really big smile things,
like Tim Walls is out there like jumping around on stage,
and Kamala Harris has her really big smile, which is
actually one of her best features, I would say, but
it just reminds me of the Joker having that painted
on lipstick smile, and like how happy the joker is.
He's the Joker, he's happy, and you shouldn't you be happy?
And then it all becomes quite evil.
Speaker 1: None of it is joyful. I mean, I watched all
the speeches that they're all angry. You know, just because
you're smiling when you're demeaning hat and smearing half the
country doesn't make you joyful. I forgot to mention I
think the most effective speech, weirdly was the second Gentleman
Doug M. Hoff I mean in real life, he doesn't
seem to be a very nice guy. But he said,
you know, stuff like he said, I actually or something
along these lines. I actually like her laugh or I
think it's a great laugh, I love her or whatever
it was. So it was I think the most normal
speech given yesterday. You know, talked about her being a
mom and this and that, so anyway, I don't know,
I thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, side benefit is she has no children,
so there's no nanny to impregnate.
Speaker 1: That's right. With the nanny problem. He kept talking about
a blended family and in the way that I think
intimated that there are people out there who have something
against it, you know what I mean, And I just
I just don't buy that.
Speaker 2: I will fully admit I have something against impregnating your nanny.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean blended nanny. I don't believe blended
nanny man family. I mean blended as in African American
and white. I think he's talking about.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh my gosh, are you that's so stupid.
I really don't know a single person who like care
that Kamala is black Indian.
Speaker 1: Well I don't either. But you know, they also yesterday
were saying stuff like they did this weird thing. It's
even hard to explain pretending that they were the party
who wanted more children out there in the world. You
know what I mean. They're saying that because of anti
abortion laws, maternity wards have to close. Like I'm not joking.
Someone said that, and they kept repeating that kind of
framing or formation of that argument. That made no sense
to me. You know, they're the party of abortion. Yet
they kept saying that Republicans don't want people to have children.
It didn't make any sense. And oh yeah, here's how
they frame it that Republicans want to tell you how
many children you can have, which makes it sound like
they want you to have a fewer children, not more,
which doesn't seem to be the case.
Speaker 2: Because Coumblicans don't want your children violently murdered. Therefore they
want you they want to tell you how many children
to have. Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was so frustrating to watch because there's just no
limit to the kind of like they said that Republicans
want to institutionalized discrimination against gay kids and schools. So
I'm wondering, what are they talking. I don't even know
what they're talking about. I assume they're talking about that
Republicans don't want books about oral sex in elementary schools,
gay oral sex, or any oral sex, but I'm not
exactly sure because they didn't explain.
Speaker 2: I do wish Republicans were doing more to respond to
the abortion propaganda. I mean, you've got corporate media and
Democrats who are like very bloodthirsty in their support for abortion,
and you see this kind of general silence from Republicans
and Trump is not great on that issue, and it
would be great if other people. You know, he's it's
always been an issue for him that I mean, he's
done amazing things him during the first debate with Hillary Clinton,
or that first with Hillary Clinton pointing out that she
supported abortion through all nine months of pregnancy and she
was just left there sputtering because she couldn't deny it
that she supports abortion up until the moment of birth.
That was great, and obviously his policies were great, but
it would just be good if I don't know, is
much McConnell still alive, Is Mike Johnson out there? Other
Republicans kind of providing guidance so that everyone can talk
about it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Things have been blown up and there are no norms anymore.
But wasn't it usually the case that when people had
when one party had its convention, the other party basically
didn't say anything and let them have their convention. I
think that used to be the form, you know, the
form of that. And I feel like I've heard Trump
say I'm going to let them have their convention, then
I'm going to attack that something like that. But yeah,
I actually think Trump, when he does talk about it,
does a relatively good job pointing out that they take
extremist position. He mentions even after birth abortions were defended,
which they were by Democrats who are refused to vote
for Ben Sass's bill protecting children who survived abortion attempts
who survived attempted murder. And yet, yeah, I don't know
that many Republicans really want to be in that fight. Honestly,
they just view it as you know, they just view
you know, it's very obvious to anyone, for instance, that
the border issue is bad for Democrats, that they've done
a terrible job, that Kamala has done a terrible job,
So what does she do. They don't hide from it.
They just essentially attack to try to you know, deflate
some of that, you know what I mean, they pretend
they did a good job lie about it. I'm not
saying Republicans should lie about abortion, but they should go
on the offensive in the same way, even if it's
an issue that they think is going to hurt them.
I think they need to do a far better job.
So I agree with you. Are we ready to move
on from that or yeah, okay. We wanted to spend
a little time talking about Kamala Harris's economic plan. And
when I say plan, we need to note that there
are really no specific, very many specifics to this, but
it's insanely terrible. So let's start with first, she has
decided that she wants to put price controls on groceries.
It is all predicated on this nonsensical claim that big
groceries colluding and price gouging, which there is not any
evidence for. The profit margins big grocery stores are actually
quite low, under two percent. Historically they have not changed
though this year they're at historic lows. I think it's
one point one or something like that, you know, net
profits and it has stayed consistent throughout the years, meaning
that the prices that have gone up are due to inflation,
not through any kind of see where exactly when inflation
was happening, all the grocery stores that generally compete with
each other all got together and decided to manipulate prices.
In any event, if there is one economic idea that
history has proven over and over and over is terrible,
that creates shortages, that creates black markets, that creates hunger,
it's putting price controls on food. And yet she's supporting it.
And what does the media do. They immediately try to
defend her and say it's not real, they're not really
price controls. They're, you know, anyway, just embarrassing. I don't
know if you saw that Axios story where she's with
the same author once called voluntary voluntary price fixing price
control says that this isn't price control, it's just to
stop gouging, which does so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually what I kind of wanted to talk about,
among a few other things. But Axios has a story
by Emily Pepeck and Emily Peck the headline for this is,
don't call it price controls, how price gouging bands really work?
So it sort of adopts this euphemism of price gouging
and then says that they're not price controls. The community
notes feature, which is not perfect on X but is
much better than all other fact checking combined, says the
same author. Emily Peck called it price controls wh when
the UK proposed voluntary caps on grocery store profits, and
Axios called it price controls when it was proposed to
limit how much Russia could profit off of oil in
a time of crisis. And it's an insane proposal, as
is her unrealized capital gains tax prepared.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Axios, which was always you know, left leaning publication,
has just become an overt Democrat pr firm. I mean
they have shown no sense of shame since they replaced
Biden with Kamala Harris. It's like all movement ahead. But
what I was thinking about this too, is related to
the convention. The Democrats are doing that thing they do
that they in corporate media do, where they take left
leaning Republicans and then they say even this solidly, amazingly
conservative Republican is voting for Kamala Harris. And in twenty
sixteen that kind of worked in part because Trump was
such an unknown quantity and so disruptive to even the
conservative establishment, they had a lot of people expressing concern.
By twenty twenty, once people had seen how he governed,
it was kind of a joke to be never Trump,
even as the media still rolled out all their favorite
former Republicans to condemn Trump by twenty twenty four. It's
not just that you've got the comparison of the Biden
Harris administration with the Trump administration. It's also that Harris
is proposing absolutely insane things like price controls and unrealized
capital gains taxes, and so, first off, I just want
to point out that the quality of the individual involved
in the never Trump information operation has just declined. And
it didn't really start out that great. I mean, no offense,
but Bill Crystal and David French you're not, you know,
not the top of the class there, and it's only
gotten worse since then. So it was like some eighth
tier communications official from the Trump campaign and crying Adam Kinsinger.
But imagine what you have to say if you are
a quote unquote never Trump quote unquote Republican. What you're
saying is you don't care about the First Amendment, you
don't care about the weaponization of our justice system. You
don't care about foreign policy and how great things were
under Trump versus how awful they are now. And now
you don't even care about literal communism being proposed, like
it's a joke. And also then you kind of have
to say, for it's not just how foolish all these
supposed Republicans who endorse Kamala. Look, it's also like why
why isn't everybody got their head? Why does not everybody
have their head screwed on straight about the threat posed
to the American economic system by Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 1: David Frencher at this column where he says he's going
to vote, you know, for Kamala Harris to save democracy
or whatever. Now, so if you're never Trump, people can't
the media will call you a Republican because you were
once a Republican forever even if you and most never
Trumpers fall into this category now, not all, but most
that they don't actually hold any conservative views at all anymore.
They're out there not just supporting Democrats because of Trump,
They're out there bashing conservatives who hold conservative views. So
if you don't want to vote for Trump because you
think he's a bad guy and all that, I honestly
I get it. But if you're voting for Kamala, you're
just a fraud because she is no better for democracy
at all. That's first of all. And then she has
communistic views on the economy because I'm sorry, price controls
on food, all food. And by the way, let's talk
about that just for a split second. This Emily Peck
wrote a piece where's talking about how oh states already
have state, you know, gouging laws that are Yeah, they
have gouging laws in emergencies like a hurricane, where they
don't let people charge too much for gas or whatever, which,
by the way, is also stupid because price gouging helps people.
It disincentivizes hoarding and things like that. I don't want
to get into it, but why do I have it here?
Kamala supported Elizabeth Warren's Price Gouging Prevention Act. That's a
that's a bill, it's a real thing. It's written out,
and in that the FTC would have unilateral, wide ranging
control over basically all food prices. That is communistic. I
mean that is socialism at for sure. And like you said,
the twenty five percent taxi unrealized gains is insane the
other day where the other week we had like a
mini crash in the market, people are supposed to pay
ahead of time. I mean, it's just it would destroy investment.
But she also wants a forty four point six capital
gains tax in a twenty five and a twenty eight
percent corporate tax. Right, she wants to hike. So let
me tell you something that is all passed on to consumers,
the corporate tax rate in the middle of an inflation problem. Well,
inflation is cool, That doesn't mean that the compounding inflation
is not there. We're paying a lot more like thirty
percent more for food over the last few years, and
that would of course add even more. She is either
incredibly illiterate about economics, which I suppose she is. Who
ever told her to propose those things is going to
be in her administration. And I just find it amazing
that people are talking about cat that jd Vance's cat
lady comment, but not the most insane. By the way,
even leftist economists, no price controls don't work, like it
is widely agreed upon. The only person I so came
out to defend her, and even that just typidly was
Paul Krugman, who said it wasn't don't worry, it's a
it's just a populist, you know, talking point during the campaign.
Imagine imagine if that's how they dealt with Donald Trump
and his populist stuff. You know, I mean, it is
just insanity. And so yeah, I always say everything's insanity,
and maybe it is.
Speaker 2: It's feeling a little insane right now. It does remind
me too. I saw I just am going to quote
Peachee Keenan every week on the podcast, but she was
saying something last night about basically like how terrified she
is at the prospect that Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz
might win. And I was noticing just a big uptick
in normal people concern about the possibility that Harris or
Waltz could win. So if you interview people inside a
cable newsroom or a corporate media newspaper, they are so
excited about the prospect of Kamala Harris that they cannot
deal with it. They are extremely excited, and they're showing
it in everything they say and do in the media.
But if you talk to normal people, there's a sense
that it's not quite I get so annoyed when people
are like, this is the most important election of our
lifetimes or what you know. I hate that type of approach,
But there is this sense that should Kamala Harris and
Tim Walls win, the response by the Americans who care
about the constitutional order would not be the type of
response you have just at an election loss. It would
be more like realizing how far the country has fallen
and taking steps to deal with that reality, which you know,
maybe is what they should do, regardless of who wins.
Speaker 1: I hate that this is the most important election of
our lifetime. People say it for midterms sometimes I do.
I do well. I mean, I have a quote of
my forthcoming book from Nancy Pelosi in a midas I
believe she said if we lose the Senate, it will
mean the end of civilization. So in a few years back,
so you hear that a lot. I will say this though,
So I don't believe this is the most important election
ever because we don't. I don't know that, but I
do know this. We're getting closer and closer on the
progressive left to just ignoring the Supreme Court and destroying it,
getting closer and closer to just ignoring the guard rails.
And I know that's kind of a cliche. That is
my worries about bad, you know, authoritarian types being in office.
Once those guard rails are down, then it's going to
be a huge problem, and I don't think we can
come back from it, and it's become it will become
an arms race, you know, and who can use power
more effectively, and that's not really what the United States
should be about, not the government of the United States,
for sure. So I do worry. I think each election
gets worse and work, we get closer and closer to
the point where Democrats are just going to ignore courts
and constitution and this these two. Kamala is a complete
authoritarian everything. All her instincts are to use the state
to force like I don't think she's ideologically on the left.
I just think she's ideologically an authoritarian who will use
power to further her career and further her cause in
any way she can. I think Tim Walls is actually
quite vacuous and empty, but ideological to the left. I
think he's a dumb man. The more I see him,
the more I hear him speak, the more I read
about him, and I think he's kind of a sociopath.
Can we talk about that for a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was thinking about it because last night
at dinner, Mark was telling me about the situation where
Tim Walls has falsely claimed his children were conceived through
in vitro fertilization. And this is something we've written a
lot about at The Federalist that involves the creation of
a ton of embryos, then you select some of the
embryos and you place them in the mother, And it
also involves like destruction of a lot of embryos. So
it's very controversial. Like a lot of people don't know
what IVF is, but if they know about it, they
have to think deeply about the ethical concerns related to it.
And he was claiming that he and his wife had
engaged in IVF, that as you noted that JD. Vance
and Donald Trump are trying to ban this procedure, and
that he wouldn't have a family without it. And the
thing is, he does not have children via IVF. He
has it through a procedure that's for men whose sperm
don't swim right or who have you know, sperm problems.
It's sort of like a Turkey based method of inseminating
one's spouse. It's used commonly by lesbians or you know,
where you just sort of inject semen and hope that
it goes well. And he doesn't know how his children
were conceived. And I find that deeply alarming, Like, thanks
be to God that my husband and I did not
have problems like that, because it's a very different to
have fertility problems, But we know how our children were conceived,
like we And yes, that you know certainly easier when
you're having children naturally. But like, shouldn't he know how
his children were conceived? And he doesn't even know? And
Mark's like, no, no, no, he knows, he's just lying. Well,
both of those options are awful, Like you're lying about
the circumstances of your children's conception or you don't know.
I think, like it's very weird behavior for a man
who's a husband.
Speaker 1: No, yes, it's demented behavior. Now, lying about your opponents,
lying about your accomplishments, that's all in the game, you know,
as Omar and the Wire said. But lying about how
you conceived your children to score some cheap political points
against your opponents is demented. In my view, you're either
a sociopath or you have lost all your moral bearings.
But add on to that that he also appropriated the
bravery and honor of soldiers by either claiming he was
in war or letting people believe that, and add this
lie on to it, I think there's something seriously wrong
with this guy. I mean, it is immoral to do that.
Let me give you some examples he didn't just like
conf He said, quote, thank God for IVF. My wife
and I have two beautiful children. She told that. He
said that in an MSNBC interview. He said, out a
fundraising letter, my wife and I used IVF to start
a family. This. Of course, as we saw during the convention,
that this is a you know, this is a campaign message,
it's central message. And then this is what I found.
I was looking at videos. He started crying. In one
video he said, I remember it like it was yesterday,
and then he goes, I'm not crying. You're crying. Now, tell
me that's not sociopathic. Now, if he didn't know the
difference between freezing and destroying and having his own sperm,
you know, I don't know how to say it nicely.
You know, put into his wife at the right exact
time to try to help her conceive that he doesn't
belong near any kind of office of power because he's
an idiot, right, I mean, you're an idiot if you
don't know that. I'm not saying that a normal person
who isn't involved in kind of getting fertility help should
know all these things. But if you're actually involved in
that process with your wife, and you don't know the difference.
There's something seriously wrong with you. So I think he's
a liar. I think you know. But here's here's how
the New York Times this blew my mind. I know
I say this every week and it shouldn't. And you're
probably like, why is it still blowing your mind? The
New York Times said that Walls had had to clarify
that his wife had to clarify his statements. Axio said,
Gwen Walls sheds light on fertility journey, clarifies they did
not use IVF. CNN Gwen Walls reveals in a different
treatment not IVF and new details about her fertility. He struggles,
what on earth are they talking about? He got caught lying.
They weren't shedding light on any fertility journey or clarifying anything.
He lied and he got caught again and they had
to fix and correct the lie. But you see how
they cover it. They make it sound like it's this
far journey. And there was a story in the NBC
on NBC Today about how some experts said that many
men get confused between IUI and IVF. All right, I mean,
I'm not even again with IVF. It's very I understand
it's a complicated issue, but to lie about how you
conceive your children, I find that just gross. I just
people who do that have no moral compass. I mean
they don't.
Speaker 2: Or he's so out of touch with what his wife
is like his wife's pregnancy, that he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He's an idiot, right, he's an idiot, or he's a
completely terrible husband. If you don't know, I mean, this
is the IVF process is a completely and morally and
ethically and you know, scientifically, completely different not completely different,
but a very different process. I don't think anyone I've
never heard anyone say I want to ban IUI process.
Has anyone even ever said that? No, anyway, he did
it on purpose, he did it to fundraise, he did
it to dunk on JD. Vanser's a Catholic in my
opinion because he hasn't said anything, but I'm sure he's
probably against it. Right.
Speaker 2: This reminds me that someone we got a ton of
really great listener email this week.
Speaker 1: Different emails at the end. I think is helpful people
hear it at the end and their emails at.
Speaker 2: They're But someone had said that I should be mentioning
that Tim Walls is not a confessional Lutheran, which I
immediately upon his announcement as VP, made sure that I
put something out there about that.
Speaker 1: So explain that to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Lutheran Church basically has two. So you know,
like in Roman Catholicism, you have all sorts of different
streams in there, you know, Jesuit or Franciscan or Dominican
or and they have different emphasies and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Can I ask one quick breakfast one? But they're still
under the auspices of the pope and all that. Like, Yeah, yeah,
have Rome. So Jews have different denominations? Is it more
like that? Is it more like it's a.
Speaker 2: Little bit like that? But it's also just like a
bigger thing than just a different denomination. They're basically two
two main different approaches to for people who identify as Lutheran.
And Lutheran started out as kind of a negative term
to describe people who were part of the Lutheran Reformation,
Martin Luther being the most famous person who was hoping
that the that Rome would reform from some of it,
would reform some of its teaching, particularly as it related
to the doctrine of justification. Okay, so it kind of
spreads like WildFly wildfire, and there are all these churches
in Europe kind of come to the United States. But
globally speaking, their two main approaches. One's called confessional and
one is probably called progressive. And Tim Walls is a
member of the Progressive Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, which
maybe like forty years ago became kind of like joined
together all these different Lutheran church bodies into one big
Lutheran church body, whereas the confessional Lutherans are still not altogether.
But you know, globally speaking, a lot of a lot
of the state Lutheran churches became this more like liberal Lutheran,
much more political. They have a division over whether the
Word of God is an errant or not. So I'm
confessional Lutheran. We believe the Word of God is in errant.
The ELCA does not, and so that affects all sorts
of things about They sort of change their teaching more
to match with the culture. Now, I do want to
make a really important point here, which is each congregation
can be different, and particularly in congregational situation. So I
know there are a lot of people who are a
member of a congregation that's in the Evangelical Lutheran Church
of America that is nowhere near as lefty as the
one that Walls belongs to. So he was raised Roman Catholic,
his wife was raised like Minnesota Lutheran. They become Lutheran
and he joined a church that's called Pilgrim Lutheran Church,
and it's known as being one of the sort of
crazy lefty congregations within the ELCA. So they are super
into trans issues and gay issues and female pastors, like
we don't even have. We do not believe in female
priests or pastors, but the LCA does. So when it
came out that he was Lutheran, you just saw all
sorts of confessional Lutherans being like, not our kind of Lutheran.
We are, we're super conservative. And so I've done my duty.
Now also a lot of questions on which version of
the Bible I read, which translation I should say, And
I personally prefer the new King James version. I think
it keeps a lot of the poetry of the King
James version with some updated language. But my Lutheran study
Bible uses the ESV, which I think is the English
Standard version, and so whether I was reading it in
my printed Lutheran Study Bible or online. I used ESV
on that note too. I will just say my Study
Bible is awesome, and it's put out by Concordia Publishing House.
It has such good notes, such good language notes, really
great history notes, and they just started an online version,
which I know a lot of people like. So I'm
about to purchase the online version so that i can
read it on the road as well as at home.
Speaker 1: One of the most embarrassing mistakes I ever made it
was in a book, so I couldn't just like correct
it was I referred to the King James Bible as
Saint James Bible in the middle of it. So so embarrassing,
and what yeah, it's embarrassing. But one person reviewing the
book for one of these Catholic some lefty socialist Christian
guy just ragged on me for that. The whole review
was so terrible. I wish I could just go in
and fix it. Anyway. I do like these intra religious fights,
and I would like to know more about them. There.
When we were together the other week in Utah, a
Jewish woman told me his joke about Jews who loved
this kind of stuff. That they once found a Jewish
person as shipwrecked on an island and he had built
two temples, and they asked him why, and he said,
there's one I pray and then one I would never
step foot in.
Speaker 2: So okay, that reminds me of another thing from last week,
which is I was talking about going to my husband's
family reunion and a reader sent in or a listener
sent in a note complaining that I'd referred to members
of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints
as Mormon. So I was talking to my husband about it,
and he was like, you know, he was raised Mormon.
He does not view it as a like a negative term,
and he even has kind things to say about his childhood.
But he was pointing out that at the family reunion,
we were addressed by a member of his family who
is part of the Quorum of the seventy.
Speaker 1: So in.
Speaker 2: The LDS Church they have different levels of authority, so
they have a prophet and then they have I think
the Quorum of the twelve and then the Quorum of
the seventy. I'm getting the names wrong, I'm sure, but
one of the people was in the Quorum of the
seventy and he's a family member of my husband's, and
everyone there used Mormon and Latter day Saint interchangeably, and
so I think partly it's a culture thing. So no, like,
I totally get what the listener was saying in wanting
me to abide by the style guide put out by
the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, but
that is kind of a recent thing. So for a
lot of people who are, you know, my my husband was,
I think like seventh generation Mormon or something. No, sixth
generation Mormon. So for a lot of people who have
deep cultural roots, that is not the same as maybe
some other people. I'm just pointing out that that I
heard at this family reunion. People use the term Mormon
a lot more than LDS and I use.
Speaker 1: But I was just reading like a thread from the
Governor of Utah, Spencer Cox, and he was referring to Mormon, Mormon,
Mormons and Mormonism and all that. So it's it seemed
weird that email, But I don't know why. Why is
does Mormon have insinuate something like historically wrong to really.
Speaker 2: Kind of interesting. I always think of the keep Austin
weird motto. You know, people are really proud of being
different in Austin, and some of my husband's Mormon cousins
have talked about this recent change of the church to
try to make it. They view it as they think
the church is trying to make itself more mainstream and
less weird, and they don't like that. They like being weird.
They like that they have this frontier pass, that they
were pioneers, that they came across the planes in push carts,
although one of the things I learned at the reunion
was that, in fact, my husband's ancestor came across not
in a push cart. So the pushcarts were the very
first people, I think, and then the wagons came after that.
Speaker 1: So there's a violent history. I mean, I've read, you know,
some histories on the Mormons. They were pretty violent in
the beginning. So maybe they're trying to help people forget
that part of it. I don't know, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I think what I think there was a real sense
of being set apart for generations in the LDS, and
in recent years there's been a push I think, to
identify more closely with the general American Christian experience.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for clarifying about those things.
Speaker 2: Through all the listener email. We had other good things too.
Should we talk? But no, we don't have time. We
need to get we need to finish this.
Speaker 1: Well. Did you do you have any culture I know
you were traveling.
Speaker 2: Boy do I I had the best cultural experience in
my lifetime. So yeah, it was pretty amazing. Went from
Utah to Nashville and got to be backstage at the
Grand Old Opry, which was truly the thrill of a lifetime.
Have you ever been there?
Speaker 1: I literally just went there, not long ago, except I
have to ask you something. I went to the Grand
Old Opry. I thought I was going to that old
building where red A Lynn saying and everything, and.
Speaker 2: I had rhyme in the theater.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, So I ended up in the other place.
Were you at the original or that new giant one
they built?
Speaker 2: I think the Grand Ole Opry was built before I
was born.
Speaker 1: So I think a new one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh really, when you say, like, are you in
the new one? Yes, the new one that's been around
since before I was born.
Speaker 1: Yes, that one I wanted to see, the one that
was in a coal miner's daughter. That's the way you can.
Speaker 2: You can go to the unto there's still things there.
But okay, So a couple of years ago during COVID,
we took a backstage tour of the Grand Ole Opry
and it was a fantastic tour. I highly recommend it.
So it also helped me not totally geek out and
act like I didn't belong when we got to come
in backstage through the artist entrance, you know, seeing the
different dressing rooms, seeing all the different people who were there.
And one of my favorite things about it is the
Grand Ole Opry band. It's like a permanent band and
permanent backup singers, and so they do backup and accompaniment
for many of the acts and they get no time
to prepare. So you come in, you get like fifteen
minutes with them if you're the act, and they just
kind of go over and take notes on your songs
and then they go out and they perform and it's amazing,
like it's the best thing you've ever heard. So we
were there to see Monty Warden perform. We're big fans
of his, and it was the anniversary of Elvis's death,
and so Monty Warden, who's you know, famously with the
Wagoneers and Monty Warden and the Dangerous Few Big Elvis
Presley fan did the did put together this set that
was really great of two Elvis songs and then one
from his latest album which is on the charts called
Steadfast Love, which is just great and it blew the
roof off. Like the crowd just loved it. It was great.
But we also got to see some other people who
were really interesting. I also got to meet Adam Wainwright.
Do you know who that is?
Speaker 1: Sounds so familiar? Does his dad someone? No?
Speaker 2: You're thinking maybe Rufus or Loud and Waynet. No. Adam
was this picture for the Cardinals. Oh yeah, like twenty years.
I'm a really great guy. And this was his second
time performing. It was like Monty's thirteenth time performing at
the Opry. But it was cool to see the band
practice with the artists and then to see them go
out on stage and just be able to watch it
from backstage was so cool. I got to complain to
Adam Wainwright about Major League Baseball and how it had
lost me as a fan. He was very polite and
nice told me to come back to being a fan.
Got a picture, super excited, send it to tell my
Cardinals friends. But then we also got to see a
bunch of other stuff this weekend, different singer songwriter events
and I you know, so different songwriters will explain how
they wrote the song or you know, what went into
writing the song, and then what happened to the song,
like it went to number one when it was recorded
by so and so, And I really love that kind
of stuff. So we did a couple of events at
this thing called Third and Lindsley, and then another at
the Listening Room and another. You know, one of my
favorite things was this bluegrass event on Sunday at the
stage House in It was a gospel bluegrass so good.
So we just had a wonderful time listening to music,
meeting songwriters, seeing it performed. In addition to Monty Warden,
we saw Tony Lane and Bryce Long and they were great.
Oh and Monty's twenty year old son made his debut
on the stage with the Grand Ole Opry and it
was great.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a lot of fun. Nashville's incredible. I
went to visit that Ryman Center you said it was
called and I went around the corner. I don't know
what the name of the street was there, but there's
tons of bars and this was like on a Thursday
at one right every single bar had a band playing,
you know, and it was just it was just so
much energy there and I don't know, it was just incredible.
I'd never I think i'd ever been there before.
Speaker 2: So oh, we'd have one more exciting thing. Sorry, of course,
on Sunday we went to church at Grace Lutheran up
in Clarksville, where we have some good friends who go there.
And I got to meet a little girl named Mollie
who's named after me. Whoa And she's amazing, super sweet
and wonderful.
Speaker 1: Oh, Clarksville, Virginia, Tennessee. Oh, in Tennessee. Okay, Clarksville's everywhere.
I don't know where you were. That's amazing named after you.
I wonder how many people, how many little girls are
named Molly after you? Have?
Speaker 2: I know precisely how many one.
Speaker 1: I don't know it is more and you don't know
about Oh. Readers can email us at radio at the
Fellas com and tell us if you named your child
after Molly, cool anything else?
Speaker 2: No, what'd you don't do?
Speaker 1: Anything I watched TV. I told myself, I need to
watch some stuff so i'd have something to talk about.
So I saw a movie called Furiosa with Yeah, I mean,
I know what it's about, Anya Taylor Joy. I think
it's her name. You're somewhere. She was in that great
Chess Show movie. Yeah, anyway, she's in it.
Speaker 2: Queen Scambit. I haven't seen it, but I know the
name of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good, and Thor was in it. It wasn't great, unfortunately.
I'm just a huge fan of Mad Max movies. I
would say this is probably the worst of them all. Yeah,
I got bored.
Speaker 2: I loved that last Mad Max, but I had no interest.
Speaker 1: In seeing this. It just it has a very similar feel.
It's just that last Mad Max movie was just one
big chase. It was just exciting throughout, and this just
does it just loses steam over and over again. Then
I made a huge mistake and I went on to
Netflix and I watched a movie called The Union with
Mark Wahlberg and what is her name, Halle Berry, who
looks great, she's like sixty, I don't know, she looks amazing.
But the movie is just it was just terrible. I
was so mad at myself for watching. I watched her
the end just there was no purpose for this. I
don't even know what the story was about. I couldn't
even tell you. Then I watched something that I enjoyed
I would recommend, I think, not strongly, but definitely called
Bad Monkey. It's a TV show with Vince Vaughan on
Apple Plus and it's based on what's that guy's name,
Carl Hyacin. Maybe, Oh, I kind of.
Speaker 2: Love him, might go on?
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, go on.
Speaker 2: He's the one that does like really Sartain stories that
have some basis in fact, all based in Florida.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very Florida centric. This is what happens in
the Keys in Miami. Vince Vaughan, I like. I just
he's always just being Vince Vaughn and I like it.
You know, he's kind of funny and he's in it
and he's pretty good. It's okay, you know, it's fun
to it's like entertaining enough and fun to watch. It's
a mystery. It's for adults, but it's not you know,
it's not crazy. There's not so far. I've only watched
like two episodes, so I think if you know you
can watch it. There's some cursing, nothing too crazy so far,
so and that's it all right, good podcast. So I
just want to quickly again say you can reach us
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