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<v Speaker 1>It's Night with Dan Ray on Boston News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Thank you, Kyle, appreciated very much. We are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the migrant crisis here in Massachusetts, which the

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<v Speaker 2>Healy administration is now in some turbulent political waters. I

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<v Speaker 2>have not and cannot quote some recent polls, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen some polls which indicate that the governors has been

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<v Speaker 2>aggravating not only people who are inclined to oppose her

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<v Speaker 2>most things political, but even amongst those people in the

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<v Speaker 2>past who have supported her. The problem is that migrants

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<v Speaker 2>have flocked to Massachusetts because we have a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>an open shelter policy. It's called the Right to Shelter Law,

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<v Speaker 2>which was passed in this state in nineteen eighty three

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<v Speaker 2>assignment then Governor Michael d'caccas, which was essentially intended to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that people who are living in Massachusetts, if

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<v Speaker 2>they were women, or if they were particularly women who

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<v Speaker 2>were pregnant with children, with or without children, that they

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<v Speaker 2>would always have shelter. And during the course of various

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<v Speaker 2>times that capacity has been tested. But with the influx

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<v Speaker 2>of God knows how many migrants who do not have shelter,

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<v Speaker 2>the situation just exploded last year, and it exploded as

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<v Speaker 2>a result of our open border policy, which the administration

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<v Speaker 2>is low to criticize. But now we've had we have

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<v Speaker 2>become really a state that has got a crisis on

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<v Speaker 2>his hands. And today the Boston Globe did a really

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<v Speaker 2>in depth investigative report which we've alluded to for those

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<v Speaker 2>of you who are just joining us, written by Stephanie

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<v Speaker 2>Ebert Ebert and Deirdre Fernandez, essentially saying that the state

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<v Speaker 2>does not want to provide information to us, the citizens

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<v Speaker 2>about how our money a billion dollars a year is

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<v Speaker 2>being spent on hotels and shelters and meals and laundry

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<v Speaker 2>and taxi cabs and medical services. And with us holding

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<v Speaker 2>through the newscast is Stephen from Weston, who apparently has

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<v Speaker 2>talked to some hotel owners. And these are not five

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<v Speaker 2>star hotels. This is not the hotel Front and Act Steven.

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<v Speaker 2>These are hotels that in the past, we're lucky on

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<v Speaker 2>a great weekend to get to eighty percent capacity for rooms,

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<v Speaker 2>there were one hundred and twenty nine, maybe one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty nine dollars, and now they're getting three three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty dollars and a guarantee of the years

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<v Speaker 2>of a hotel. We're filled to capacity for a year,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can't find out who the owners of these

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<v Speaker 2>hotels are, amongst other things. Go ahead, Stephen, you told

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<v Speaker 2>us that you had talked to one owner who said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't take the money, some other hotel will.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's absolutely the case. Then and again, just to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just to reiterate, they're not paying the state

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<v Speaker 3>is not paying market rates here. The state is paying

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<v Speaker 3>free and then sometimes four case four times what the

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<v Speaker 3>rates were prior to this migrant crisis. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why they're not being That's why the state's not

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<v Speaker 3>being transparent with this, and that's why you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't want you and I the taxpayer to

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<v Speaker 3>know that. You know, you know, I think it started

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<v Speaker 3>out at forty five million a month back in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three. Of our tax dollars, we're being spent on this.

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<v Speaker 3>When they originally proposed this, they they allocated five hundred

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars and within two weeks of that allocation, they

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<v Speaker 3>they said they were going to have a budget shortfall

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<v Speaker 3>for next year. But they but they were quick to

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<v Speaker 3>point out that that shortfall had nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 3>this crisis. Well, of course, have one without the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course it's just ludicrous, of course ludicrous. They they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're insulting, you know, the citizens of Massachusetts that that

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<v Speaker 3>work hard in Bay Texas. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The funny thing about it is that one point I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna say, if they put people up, let us

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<v Speaker 2>say at you know, the Intercontinental Hotel in downtown Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>or the Ritz or four Seasons of the Meridian, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the the the the Mandarin Oriental, and we're paying three

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<v Speaker 2>or four hundred dollars a night, people would be outraged.

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<v Speaker 2>What they're doing is they're putting them in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>large lodge type hotels, you know in places like taunt

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<v Speaker 2>And and Wooburn, and you know cities that were no

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<v Speaker 2>one's flocking to, sadly, and they are paying prices of

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred dollars. Look at this. There was a no

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<v Speaker 2>big taxicab contract on the Cape, which I hope someone

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<v Speaker 2>gets some information on some taxicab company in Truro which

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<v Speaker 2>was providing taxicab service for migrants six million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>How many taxi cab rides in the Cape could you

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<v Speaker 2>take to have to spend six million dollars. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cab rides, don't you think.

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<v Speaker 3>And and the and the hotels, and the hotels like

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<v Speaker 3>the Meridian in the you know, a Mandarin Oriental. Those

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<v Speaker 3>are reserved for the governor and her staff. Those, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and those are three thousand the night right.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely, yeh Uh. It's like you know, the hotel

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<v Speaker 2>front On. I came Quebec. Look uh, these towns Norfolk,

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<v Speaker 2>uh in taunting uh and and Plymouth down to the

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<v Speaker 2>Cape where they've had some of these problems. And the

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<v Speaker 2>school systems, the schools were about to have the influx

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<v Speaker 2>of students set upon them, and no one in the

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<v Speaker 2>legislature turned around and said at some point, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>let's amend this nineteen eighty three law. This was there

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<v Speaker 2>was not no intention back then to house migrants. It

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<v Speaker 2>was intended for long term Massachusetts residents who found themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in a bad, you know, situation financially and maybe even domestically.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what the purpose was back in nineteen eighty three.

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<v Speaker 2>This law, this law has been totally misapplied in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of what its original intent and original purpose was. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that if the Globe keeps pushing on this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get more and more information and it's

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<v Speaker 2>gone to it's going to inuit the benefit, to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the credit of the globe. They're doing good work

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<v Speaker 2>on this, and they're doing good work which is going

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<v Speaker 2>to embarrass an administration that they've primarily supported.

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<v Speaker 3>They are and I think the one thing that hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>will come out of this is that as a country,

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<v Speaker 3>we can address this migrant crisis and realize that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we look at some of these governors that

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<v Speaker 3>are shipping these people to these other states like ours,

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<v Speaker 3>and as horrible as that is, I mean, at some

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<v Speaker 3>point they these guys have been dealing with this in

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<v Speaker 3>our border states like Arizona and Texas and Nevada and California.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they've been dealing with us for years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and what are they going to do? They have

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<v Speaker 2>to they have Look, if we're not going to close

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<v Speaker 2>the borders, we're going to open the borders. Every state

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<v Speaker 2>should absorb some responsibility. We basically made our state a

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<v Speaker 2>magnet by not saying that this nineteen eighty three statute,

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<v Speaker 2>this right, the shelter Law, only applied to people who

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<v Speaker 2>had been resided sidents of Massachusetts for you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>should have amended that a year ago. We knew that

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<v Speaker 2>this flood was coming, no doubt, Steven Love you call,

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<v Speaker 2>very strong, first time call. Please continue to call this program.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thanks so much, Thank you, Stephen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go and take a quick break. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get to more callers. We got Larry coming up, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got room for you. So I got one

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<v Speaker 2>call one line at six one seven, two, five, four

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<v Speaker 2>to ten thirty and two at six one seven, nine

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<v Speaker 2>three one ten thirty. Look, when the Boston Globe wants

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<v Speaker 2>to call out the democratic governor of Massachusetts over the

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<v Speaker 2>issue of transparency, then I think we have crossed a

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<v Speaker 2>rubicon here that the Globe cannot back down from. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they are still a very powerful institution. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of people who will be mad

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<v Speaker 2>at the Globe for having done this front page story today,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously the attitude of many people are that the

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<v Speaker 2>governor's office should be saco saying and they should not

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<v Speaker 2>be questioned and second guests because they're a democratic governor. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the Globe took a strong stance to today. I say

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<v Speaker 2>hats off to the Globe. I hope you will as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You may not be a reader of the Globe, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>You may not even like the Globe. But when the

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<v Speaker 2>Globe does a story like this which does show I

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<v Speaker 2>think an absolute abuse, an abuse of what should be transparency,

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<v Speaker 2>hats off to the Globe. There's two lines open at six, one, seven, nine, three, one,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Feel free to join this conversation. This is

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<v Speaker 2>an important story. This might be a moment in time

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<v Speaker 2>where things could potentially change a little bit in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on Nightside Now, back to Dan Ray live from

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<v Speaker 1>the Window World nights Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to the calls. Larry is in Bill Ricca. Larry,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you joining us. You're next one Nightside, Go right ahead, Larry.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Dan, thanks for taking my call out, longtime listener,

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<v Speaker 4>first time call.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, turn around, a little run of a close around. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. What's your thought on this this this Globe

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<v Speaker 2>article which really holds the feet of the healthy administration

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<v Speaker 2>of the fire on the issue of transparency.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was kind of thrilled to see the Globe

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<v Speaker 4>finally kind of go that way right. It's always been

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<v Speaker 4>it's always been perceived as a you know, favorable newspaper

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<v Speaker 4>towards the democratic kind of side of the house and

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<v Speaker 4>all the things and all the policies and associated with

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of Finally glad to see them kind of

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<v Speaker 4>cutting both ways right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, you know, it's interesting. We always got to

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<v Speaker 2>separate the the editorial policy from the front page the

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<v Speaker 2>news stories. Now they've been very aggressive here with what

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<v Speaker 2>I would call a good piece of solid piece of

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<v Speaker 2>attempted investigated journalism. Hopefully this doesn't end with what they've

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<v Speaker 2>done today, and they'll continue to pursue this and if necessary,

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<v Speaker 2>try to take the Heally administration a court to get

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<v Speaker 2>this information. It'll be interesting to see if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>Globe editorial in the next couple of days which supports

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<v Speaker 2>the investigative journalism I think them very well might be,

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<v Speaker 2>And that would be a stunning development.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. I mean, something the Globe Spotlight team could certainly

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<v Speaker 4>take gone and go real deep if they if they

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<v Speaker 4>if they deem it necessary or something that they feel

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<v Speaker 4>as more more run way ahead of it. But I

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<v Speaker 4>guess my comment and what kind of that drove me

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<v Speaker 4>to call is you know, in the private sector, none

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<v Speaker 4>of what you just described from an expense perspective would be,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, readily acceptable. I've worked in the private sector

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<v Speaker 4>and financial services for over thirty years, and you have

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of prove why an expense is contributing towards

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<v Speaker 4>the benefit of the of the business or contributing towards

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the future profits of the business. And to

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<v Speaker 4>your point earlier, what's the benefit of the state of Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 4>And even where the governing accountability around reasonable rates that

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<v Speaker 4>can be born by anybody who wants to use one

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<v Speaker 4>of the commercially available you know, travel sites out there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, paying a playing a rate that's above above

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<v Speaker 4>market for God, forpid, you know, going into a suite

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<v Speaker 4>when you can stay in a regular room. Where's the

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<v Speaker 4>accountability if I do that? In the personal side, they

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<v Speaker 4>pay for it personally. Governa Healy wants to travel to

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<v Speaker 4>the Wisconsin Rome, which I've been to. It's a beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>hotel and stay this week, Well, the state reim versuship

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<v Speaker 4>for one hundred and twenty five bucks. The rest is

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know that's great, that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 4>I would yeah, I would hope, I would hope that

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<v Speaker 4>it's Sorry, interrupted, but I would I would hope that

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<v Speaker 4>that's something that, you know, if they really want to

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<v Speaker 4>show transparency, if the audit the audit department of the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the other thing is that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>be elected to high positions, they have their campaign funds. Okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I would think that legally there would be nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>obviously they may choose to travel somewhere, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>public fisk to stay at these five star hotels, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty dollars, and then use their own political funds

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<v Speaker 2>to make up the difference. So that therefore they're making

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<v Speaker 4>If you get my drift couldn't agree more. And I

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<v Speaker 4>you know another second point you were discussing on the migrats.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when the first plane hit, I forget to

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<v Speaker 4>it with Nan talking to Vinyon. I said to my wife,

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<v Speaker 4>this is going to become a much bigger issue, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And back then it was it was deemed political fodder.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it was a little bit of what

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<v Speaker 4>Steve said. It's finally every other state that's been dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with this day in and day out, and every other

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<v Speaker 4>governor on both sides of the aisle that's been dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with us day in and day out, starting to try

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<v Speaker 4>to spread the love around. And you know, we've had

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<v Speaker 4>open arms until it until it hurts so much.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, well.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone needs to pay for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The people in Martha's Vinyon, if you remember, they

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<v Speaker 2>were thrilled that the migrants had arrived, and they landed

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<v Speaker 2>at Martha's Vinyon airport, and they gave them Martha's Vinyne

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<v Speaker 2>hats and Methis Mart's Vinyon T shirts, and they gave

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<v Speaker 2>them some sandwiches. They let them stay overnight at the church,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they put them on a bus the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>And headed it drove over right, you put them on

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<v Speaker 2>the ferry to Cape Cod, so you know they dropped them.

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<v Speaker 3>They not in my back very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I think I think this is this

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<v Speaker 4>is you know, Governor it to your point, Governor Dukakas

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<v Speaker 4>did this back in the day to help folks in

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think I agree with you wholeheartedly. It needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be revisited because right now it's being abused, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's being abused on everyone. Yes, and and and I

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<v Speaker 4>think this is a little case of the of the

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<v Speaker 4>much bigger order crisis that we've all been kind of

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<v Speaker 4>hearing and dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you if you remember back last at some

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<v Speaker 2>point it was last year or early this year, Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Healey and Lieutenant Governor Driscoll. Driscoll made an appeal to

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts residence and they said, gee, if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>spare room in your home, or or you have an

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<v Speaker 2>in law apartment that's not not being used, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>could welcome a migrant family. I still don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>any people in Massachusetts welcomed migrant families into their home.

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<v Speaker 2>If they did, my hat's off to those individuals. They're

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<v Speaker 2>better human beings. That's not virtue signaling, that's actually walking

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<v Speaker 2>the walk and talking the talk. And I think that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if people do that, hats off to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will bet you the few and far between.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would bet you this few and far between,

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<v Speaker 4>and if we went up and down the hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know something. I'm not going to bet the

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<v Speaker 2>over on that number with you, Larry, Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>great call, great first call. Come on back more often.

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<v Speaker 2>I need callers like you, okay, who are really effective

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<v Speaker 2>and efficient. Thank you, appreciate it. Night you too. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me go to Mark in Austin. Don't want Mark to

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, Mark, Okay, thanks for taking my call. Then,

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<v Speaker 5>I think this issue of the migrants, where the Heally

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<v Speaker 5>administration is withholding the information supposed lead to protect the

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<v Speaker 5>migrants from some kind of backlash. This is only the

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<v Speaker 5>latest incident of a problem that's endemic on Beacon Hill.

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<v Speaker 5>With openness and transparency. That means yes, Governor Healy won't

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<v Speaker 5>even release her campaign contributions, even though she's legally retired

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<v Speaker 5>required to do so. And the state Auditor, a nice

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<v Speaker 5>woman wants to do her job in order to state legislature,

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<v Speaker 5>and Speaker Marianna refuses, and every time it happens, the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of us are left to wonder what are they hiding?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me tell you this, Mark, You and I

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes disagree, but you could not be more correct in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion. Tonight you're talking about the state Auditor, Diane

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<v Speaker 2>Dezaglio we've had on this show. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we might invite the auditor to come on

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<v Speaker 2>later this week and talk about this specifically, ailed this

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<v Speaker 2>one tonight for me. Mark, Yeah, yeah, And I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I had mentioned auditor as ugly, oh, because she's up

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<v Speaker 2>there fighting for all of us, not just taxpayers, but

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<v Speaker 2>all of us who need to understand how this state

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<v Speaker 2>is being run. And not only is what happening with

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<v Speaker 2>our tax dollars, but other tax dollars being used effectively

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<v Speaker 2>and efficiently. This hotels, Mark, who are being paid three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars a night guaranteed for an entire year or

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<v Speaker 2>two years. This is a windfall. If I was a

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<v Speaker 2>hotel owner, If you were a hotel owner and you

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<v Speaker 2>own some sort of fleabag hotel somewhere that was never

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at capacity, and all of a sudden, some

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<v Speaker 2>guy walks in and says, hey, can we write you

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<v Speaker 2>a check three hundred times three hundred and sixty five times,

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<v Speaker 2>however many rooms you have, we would.

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<v Speaker 5>Be yeah, thrilled. You know, I used to work as

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<v Speaker 5>seasonally as the election supervisor. Yes, And there was this

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<v Speaker 5>nice young woman graduate journalism student from China who'd never

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<v Speaker 5>heard of the Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was right there in our procedures manual. So

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<v Speaker 5>I explained it there and one of my bosses at

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<v Speaker 5>city Hall, in the election department backed me up one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's a little off topic to what we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about here, So let's say that story for another night,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's just right right.

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<v Speaker 5>The point is, you know, if it's legally a matter

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<v Speaker 5>of public record, that should be that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, let me tell you. When they run for office,

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<v Speaker 2>they talk about transparency, and they talk about sunlight being

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest disinfectant. But the only one up there who

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<v Speaker 2>lives by that code of conduct, in my opinion, is

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<v Speaker 2>the state Auditor, Diane Dezaglio. And she is persona non

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<v Speaker 2>grata amongst the on Beacon Hill and let's hat so

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<v Speaker 2>we will try to get here on in the next

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<v Speaker 2>week we talk about this. And by the way, she

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be a Democrat, which is great, which is.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I think that's phone too yop about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Mark, appreciate you, Carl. I have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to take a break here for news. At

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the hour, I get two lines at

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<v Speaker 2>at six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear from you on this one. The Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Globe has taken a position today which is a huge

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<v Speaker 2>surprise to me. It's it's journalism at its best, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give the Globe credit where credit is due,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope some of you will do as well. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not subscribers to the Globe, that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you about this story today. This is good investigative journalism,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's investigative journalism of an administration. I either heal

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<v Speaker 2>the administration that the Globe has supported editorially and also

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<v Speaker 2>on their newspages, but this carently was a step too far.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Globe has called them out, and I say,

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<v Speaker 2>hats off to the Globe. Let's talk about it here

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside. Coming right back after.

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<v Speaker 1>This Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Kyle. Let me go to Mike

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<v Speaker 2>in California. Mike, welcome you next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 6>Go right here, sir, Dan, first time, long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow you. This is the third first team call in

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<v Speaker 2>a row. Whereabouts in California?

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<v Speaker 6>Join us from I split my time between the Bay

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<v Speaker 6>Air in southern California, but I actually spend a third

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<v Speaker 6>of my time in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, thank you very much, honored that

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<v Speaker 2>you would. I've never had to the rest of my knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're coming into year eighteen here on Nightside. I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you it's spent a long time since we've

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<v Speaker 2>had three first on Carlos in a row. Oh, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much. Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Full disclosure.

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<v Speaker 6>You and I share a high school Alma Mada and more.

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<v Speaker 6>Heley and I share a college on Malada.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I got it.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I just find it interesting on a couple of fronts. One,

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<v Speaker 6>none of this is surprising, you know, I don't get

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<v Speaker 6>into politics at all, but obviously the people in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 6>wh I love continually electing people that you just really

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<v Speaker 6>have to scratch your head. None of this was a surprise,

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<v Speaker 6>and one of the things that's facing challenges my backgrounds

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<v Speaker 6>in the military, the consulting in corporate world. Now, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we're coming to a financial crisis in this

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<v Speaker 6>country with the deficit, the fact that China owns half

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<v Speaker 6>of our debt, the fact that we've done an alliance

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<v Speaker 6>of China, Russia, Iran and possibly Turkey aligned against us,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're focused on all the wrong stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 6>just find it a little ironic that the Globe, who

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<v Speaker 6>did a tremendous job in its spotlight series with the

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<v Speaker 6>Catholic Church, who's done wonderful things, but get unacceptable things

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<v Speaker 6>at time, that the healthy administration is following that same

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<v Speaker 6>act of oh, there's a report of a sexual abuse.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's not let's not chronicle it, let's not report it,

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<v Speaker 6>let's just move the guy. Does that sound familion?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, actually exactly, you're talking about the the alleged rape

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<v Speaker 2>at that Rockland shelter again, you know, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, just so you know, that defendant had

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<v Speaker 2>his bail reduced to personal recognissance and was released, but

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<v Speaker 2>ICE figured that out and they arrested him yesterday, so

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<v Speaker 2>he will remain in custody as I understand, and I

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<v Speaker 2>intend to probably reach.

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<v Speaker 6>Out to SPI. I spent a third of my time

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<v Speaker 6>in California, I spent a third time in New York

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<v Speaker 6>and a third of my time in Massachusetts. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>what's going on in New York City is the same

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<v Speaker 6>thing with with with with the revolving bail and really

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<v Speaker 6>the people of all these cities, most of them good hardworking,

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<v Speaker 6>decent people, have to wake up and figure out who

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<v Speaker 6>they they want to vote for.

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<v Speaker 3>Read the paper.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not a big I'm not a big fan of

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<v Speaker 6>the Globe, but you've got to read it. And and

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<v Speaker 6>we're on an inflection point right now in terms of

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<v Speaker 6>not just domestically but globally how we want to address

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<v Speaker 6>these issues. And you know, ninety percent of the people

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<v Speaker 6>up there are just good, decent people that want to

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<v Speaker 6>get their kids educated, support their kids, and what have you.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's really unfortunate with and I got to say

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<v Speaker 6>at the feckless political representation in the Massachusetts both at

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<v Speaker 6>the state level, and and and in Congress. Uh, but

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<v Speaker 6>people people keep electing them. You know, you have a

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<v Speaker 6>terrific show. I listen to you because not only are

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<v Speaker 6>you a high school alma model, but you run a

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<v Speaker 6>very decent, informative show. And I think if the rest

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<v Speaker 6>of the country looked at the decent and sensible way

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<v Speaker 6>which you approach, you don't back down. You're not a

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you're not a soft touch, but you demand

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<v Speaker 6>decency and demand information. I really applied you free show,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's why I call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Mike, I appreciate it very much. I'm honored that

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<v Speaker 2>you're for that. You finally have called I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>become a regular caller and you have identified what this

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<v Speaker 2>show is supposed to be about. I'm very happy, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and gratified that the Globe has taken this step today.

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<v Speaker 2>It had to have been a big step editorially for

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<v Speaker 2>the And again I think sometimes their editorial philosophy has

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<v Speaker 2>leaked over onto its news pages, and I've called them

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<v Speaker 2>out on that. But this was an extraordinary piece. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope the Globe continues and pursues it, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>if they do. But we'll stay on top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the healthcare crisis going on here, which also,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, really in some ways is related back

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<v Speaker 2>to the the priest pedophile crisis, which never should have happened,

447
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<v Speaker 2>a disgrace to the Catholic Church, a disgrace to the

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<v Speaker 2>leadership of the Catholic Church. We're trying to cover that up.

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<v Speaker 2>And coming back to the point you made initially, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the Healy administration falling into that same trap. So brilliant, call,

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<v Speaker 2>I would expect nothing less from from a Boston Latin

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<v Speaker 2>school man Suma's PREMI and a Harvard graduate.

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<v Speaker 6>Dan, keep up, keep up the good work, all right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Will, and I would hope that you will become a

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<v Speaker 2>regular contributor.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, just real quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>I listened to you all over the world. Wherever I am,

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<v Speaker 6>I listen. I listened to you all the time. The

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<v Speaker 6>Internet's a wonderful thing, and it just let you know

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<v Speaker 6>Boston's home. It lets me stay connected there and keep

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<v Speaker 6>up the good work.

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<v Speaker 2>I just came back from a trip with knightside listeners

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<v Speaker 2>to Italy, and I got to tell you, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>whenever I leave Boston, as thrilled as I am to

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<v Speaker 2>go to another part of the world and experience their culture.

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<v Speaker 2>It is always so gratifying to come back to this.

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<v Speaker 6>I said to some of the other I want Dan

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<v Speaker 6>Ray's job because you just get back from Ireland. Now

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<v Speaker 6>is in Italy. It's a great time. Yeah, thank curious.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night, Mike. Next time you Boston, give me a call,

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<v Speaker 2>love to meet up with you. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks well, thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, talk to you soon. Have a great one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you a call like that makes my night,

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<v Speaker 2>no question about it. Let me go to I lean

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<v Speaker 2>in Waltham. I lean you in next on Nightsacker right ahead, Yeah, good.

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<v Speaker 7>Ask what do you mean Dan, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you were not a first time caller, but

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<v Speaker 2>you are just as valued. I want you to know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Go right ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>First of all, this is not a new problem.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an old problem.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just become exacerbated over the last year or so.

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<v Speaker 7>I have hired people to work for me and find

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<v Speaker 7>out they have social security licenses everything, and they're here illegally. Sure,

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<v Speaker 7>So it's been happening for a long time. It just

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<v Speaker 7>has become more aggressive. And my question and one of

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<v Speaker 7>the questions, we're not answering is why is it being

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<v Speaker 7>a looved yea, that's what we need, that's the root cause,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's what we need to get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll give you an answer. I will give you

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<v Speaker 2>an answer. If you want an answer.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll give you the answer to it, but you'll give

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<v Speaker 7>me yours list.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my answer is that there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people in this country, particularly in the legal community, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>who view their purpose not of enforcing the law, but

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<v Speaker 2>they view their purpose as somehow evading the law for

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<v Speaker 2>causes in which they happen to personally believe. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>you have people here who believe that America should be

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<v Speaker 2>open to everyone on earth, despite what you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>we represent as a country. You know, we we have

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<v Speaker 2>an open immigration policy. All you have to do is

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<v Speaker 2>go to a consulate or to an embassy somewhere in

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<v Speaker 2>the world and applied to to immigrate here. But we

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<v Speaker 2>have a right as a country, uh to to with

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<v Speaker 2>to to run our own borders and to and to

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<v Speaker 2>have borders. But there are people here who view our

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<v Speaker 2>form of government and our economy as something There was

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<v Speaker 2>an article in the Globe today about these uh, the

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<v Speaker 2>these these fabian socialists out in western Massachusetts who were

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<v Speaker 2>who are still enthralled with UH Marx and Lenin and

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<v Speaker 2>Engles and Castro and UH and whomever else they might

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<v Speaker 2>and they're having these great meetings and they admit openly

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<v Speaker 2>they want to change our system. So you have those folks,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have people within the legal community who

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to use our own constitution, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>great document against against us, and they're they're they're ready

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<v Speaker 2>to UH to support people who have come here with

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<v Speaker 2>ill intent, have crossed our border knowing that they are

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<v Speaker 2>breaking our immigration laws, they are not complying with our system.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have these willing accomplishments, accomplishes, accomplices, accomplish accomplices

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<v Speaker 2>in the Civil Liberties Union UH. The Civil Liberties Union

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<v Speaker 2>originally was founded to defend and protect free speech. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the levels the Civil Liberties Union is a group of

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<v Speaker 2>political activists who feel that immigration and open borders how

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<v Speaker 2>this country should be run. Go ahead, your your your answer,

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<v Speaker 2>You answer your own question.

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<v Speaker 7>First of all, let me quote I one of my

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<v Speaker 7>best friends started the Irish Immigration Center years ago. They

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<v Speaker 7>did great work and they helped people who really wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to come here become part of America, help them with

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<v Speaker 7>their paper, everything together here, and they had English. First

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<v Speaker 7>of all, most of these people, a lot of these

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<v Speaker 7>they don't speak English. That creates a huge disruption of

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<v Speaker 7>your society when forty percent of people can't speak English.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's a balkanization argument, and I tend to

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<v Speaker 2>agree with that. But if someone comes here and wants

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<v Speaker 2>to assimilate, I don't want to keep people out of

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<v Speaker 2>the country because they don't speak English. Because people can

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<v Speaker 2>learn learn it.

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<v Speaker 7>They're not even interested in learning it. Kind of the

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<v Speaker 7>deal with the people I hied that they didn't speak

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<v Speaker 7>English is that they I would help them. I would

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<v Speaker 7>try the lords of Finish, and they should try the

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<v Speaker 7>Lords of English. They need no more attempt to do so.

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<v Speaker 7>It was too hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a problem, and they watch Sesame Street. You can

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<v Speaker 7>learn English.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the piece in the globe we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about today? If I could ask that question.

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<v Speaker 7>But this also makes a roadblock for regular employees English speaking.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, a company like mine to hire people. It

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<v Speaker 7>just roughs your teamwork. There was no team work when

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<v Speaker 7>half of your employees time to communicate the other half

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<v Speaker 7>of your employees.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I understand that that's called the simulation.

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<v Speaker 7>We had that problem where we're doing a job and

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<v Speaker 7>half of the people are sitting over there eating the

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<v Speaker 7>picture I just bought, and half of the people are

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<v Speaker 7>sitting over there eat the picture I just bought.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Okay, I mean I think I think that

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<v Speaker 2>we are essentially in agreement on this. My question to

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<v Speaker 2>you is, did you did you happen to see the

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<v Speaker 2>globe the piece I'm talking about tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>No, but I will get it and read it. But

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<v Speaker 7>here's the thing, if you if you want Lizzy there,

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<v Speaker 7>Senator Losey recently they the statement that she wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>make a path the citizenship for all these.

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<v Speaker 2>People who said that of Senate Senator Warren Well, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly. She made it very clear. That's the purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the goal, that is the goal.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you go to Mexico, you have to learn

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<v Speaker 7>studis to become a Mexican citizen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again to learn German.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we may have lost that argument here, Okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that we can impose or that that language

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<v Speaker 2>requirement on potential immigrants, but I think we need to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to say if you're going to come here,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to know who you are. We got to

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<v Speaker 2>know what your skills are. We want to know why

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming here, and we will make a decision as

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<v Speaker 2>to whether or not we accept you. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to be a nurse or a doctor who's qualified

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<v Speaker 2>coming here from a place like Bangladesh, you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the front of the line. If you're a lawyer coming

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<v Speaker 2>here from Ireland, we had probably too many lawyers in America,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the back of the link. Think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm already here. I was born here. I was lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also a dual citizen. I have my Irish

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship as well. But I did it the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't break into Ireland. I have through you know,

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<v Speaker 2>through their their immigration law, so I have a dual citizenship.

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<v Speaker 7>These politicians think these people can come and just get jobs.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not that easy.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, pay I lean. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>run here because I'm way past my broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to say quickly, is the cost to US

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<v Speaker 7>school system, especially Boston is astronomical, no question.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't even count it in terms of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You counted in terms of lost learning time, simple as that. Ilean,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, gotta go bye bye. We'll take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming right back on nightside. We got some open lines

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, four ten thirty, six one, seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a I think, an extraordinary opportunity to one

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<v Speaker 2>agree with the Globe and also commend them for taking

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<v Speaker 2>a position that probably caused some discomfort within some aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of the newsroom. Uh. This is this is a good

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<v Speaker 2>piece of journalism we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the window World,

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<v Speaker 1>light Side Studios on w b Z, the news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the poosergos. Go to Eileen and Hull. Eileen,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. How are you?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh well, I'm doing okay, but I had to call

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<v Speaker 8>about this. I didn't read the article, uh in the Globe,

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<v Speaker 8>but I will read it. And my issue is government

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<v Speaker 8>responsibility should be first of all, for for the citizens

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<v Speaker 8>of our state who've been here lie long. And I

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<v Speaker 8>happen to have a very unpopular need which is almost

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<v Speaker 8>not mentionable, which is a son with mental illness who

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<v Speaker 8>requires care, and the state is really not doing as

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<v Speaker 8>much as they should for the people that they purged

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<v Speaker 8>from mental hospitals. It's a very unpopular issue, but it's

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<v Speaker 8>the issue that I'm dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. I agree with you, Eileen, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that more attention needs to be given to that,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can do follow up stories on that, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>in the context of what's going on with this. But

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<v Speaker 2>I can't focus a lot on this on that tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's good that you made that point,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a good counterpoint that as we focus all

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<v Speaker 2>of this attention on people who have just arrived, we're

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<v Speaker 2>ignoring people who are here and who need help. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you, appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>It, well said Next up, Pauline and air. Pauline, you

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<v Speaker 2>were next on nice, I go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Good, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, if you get off the speakerphone, you'd be

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<v Speaker 2>just perfect. So can you get off the speakerphone. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>put Pauline on hold, Folks. Someone should have told her

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<v Speaker 2>to get off the speakerphone. Let me go to Kathy

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston. Kathy, Pauline, we'll get back to you, I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Kathy, Hey, welcome, how are you.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't have a problem with the migrants, but I

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<v Speaker 9>have a problem of you not taking care of your

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<v Speaker 9>household is like me saying I will not feed my

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<v Speaker 9>kids and go and feed someone else kids and I

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<v Speaker 9>and you know you should. For example, I was out.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm a mail carrier. I was hurt. I was hurt

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<v Speaker 9>and I was and I wasn't getting my full pay

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<v Speaker 9>and I need an extra help. And I I applied

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<v Speaker 9>to SNAP benefits and I was four hundred and something

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<v Speaker 9>our dollars away from the cutoff point, and I still

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<v Speaker 9>think qualifying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, again, that's the point, you know, we should be generous.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're a mail carryer and you get hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're somebody who's working get hurt, you you need

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<v Speaker 2>to get some more help. It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, we only have so much money. And when

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<v Speaker 2>we take and divert a billion dollars a year, tell

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<v Speaker 2>people who have come here and have never lived here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at some point that money's being taken away,

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<v Speaker 2>not only from the taxpayers, but from people like you

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<v Speaker 2>who probably are a taxpayer as well. And you now

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<v Speaker 2>need some, you know, some help. In what we call

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<v Speaker 2>the commonwealth. The politicians always say it's the commonwealth, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the commonwealth. For people who live in the Commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 2>It should not be the Commonwealth for the rest of.

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<v Speaker 9>The world because it's like, for instance, I was mad

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<v Speaker 9>at the guy it was I said, I don't mean

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<v Speaker 9>to be mad at you, but may work in sixty

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<v Speaker 9>plus hours a week, I cannot even get a time

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<v Speaker 9>need bit of help. Then I'm really needing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't agree with you more, you know, So they.

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<v Speaker 9>Should take some of that money and put aside for

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<v Speaker 9>people like myself and others, you know, in situations as

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<v Speaker 9>you said that needs to help, then they need it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you have you heard Eileen from how she has

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<v Speaker 2>a son who is not getting the help he needs

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with some you know, some some some mental issues, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have someone like yourself, you have a

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<v Speaker 2>physical need to get back to work. Couldn't agree with

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<v Speaker 2>both of you more. But the problem is it's it's sexier,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's more laudable in the minds of some people

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<v Speaker 2>that somehow the people who will come here go to

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<v Speaker 2>the head of the line, and that's just wrong. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved you call Kathy, I hope have you have you

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<v Speaker 2>called me before?

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<v Speaker 3>This?

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<v Speaker 2>It's your first time?

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<v Speaker 9>No, it is the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to give you round in Foss and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you will come back and and and talk talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about your situation.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Okay, thank you, Thanks Kathy, have.

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<v Speaker 2>A great night. Okay, we're up at the eleven Pauline

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<v Speaker 2>from air callback. We'll get you up. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>right after eleven o'clock news