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Speaker 1: Welcome to Political beat Down. I'm Ben Mysellas joined by

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Michael Cohen. Let's just get into it right away. Moments ago,

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Carolon Levitt, Trump's chief propagandast, hosted this helld a press

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conference and she was asked, why is Donald Trump calling

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female reporters piggy and saying be quiet, piggy, be quiet, piggy.

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Watch what Caroline Levitt says, wearing across Michael Cohen wearing

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the cross here play this clip.

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Speaker 2: Host tomorrow and I'll let the President speak for himself.

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Natalie take it here. R.

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Speaker 1: What did the President mean when he called report piggy?

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Speaker 2: Look, the President is very frank and honest with everyone

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in this room. You've all seen it yourself. You've all

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experienced it yourselves, and I think it's one of the

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many reasons that the American people re elected this president

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because of his frankness, and he calls out fake news

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when he sees it. He gets frustrated with reporters when

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you lie about him, when you spread fake news about

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him and his administration. But he also is the most

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transparent president in history, and he gives all of you

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in this room, as you all know, unprecedented access.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, Ben, let me ask you this question. What

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was the question that the journalist, this female journalist on

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Air Force one asked President Trump?

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Speaker 4: Leave?

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Speaker 1: She asked him a question about the Epstein files and

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the timing and what's happening and would you sign it

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into law? I was a question about that.

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Speaker 3: And can you tell me please as the legal bagal

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mind that you are. What is so offensive about asking

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when you intend to release the Epstein files, something that

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has basically taken over the new cycle for the last

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I don't know, at least several months, six months. Why

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is that? Why is that a a disrespectful question to

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answer to ask of the president that the response should

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be to call this female journalist a pig.

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Speaker 1: When you are a deeply insecure, weak, pathetic shell of

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a man. That behavior, right there is what we've seen

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before in despicable humans, and it is usually a lesson

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that we as mature adults, try to instill in our

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children and instill in others not to behave that way.

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That this is really bad behavior. And at a very

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young age, to the extent we see children behaving in

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this way, we say, nope, bad child. You know it

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receives punishment, and the fact that we're seeing this behavior

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in a grown adult in a leadership position, in the

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highest leader position, and the presidency is something beyond the spigle.

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Let's just play the clip to show when Donald Trump

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called that reporter piggy, just so people can see it.

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Let's play even the way he said it, like there's

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no good way to say quiet piggy, but like if

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he were to say quiet piggy, the fact that.

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Speaker 3: I was asking a question fake news.

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Speaker 1: The way he said it, there's in his voice, the

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way he even referred it to her, the finger pointing

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quiet piggy, like it was it was a parody of

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a despicable, vile person, but it's real, so it wasn't.

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And you're watching it and you were like, if you

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were to kind of craft the scrap you in a

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Hollywood movie of that behavior, you would be like, Yeah,

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no one's gonna no one's gonna believe that at all.

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And you know, this is real life. This has real ramifications.

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And the way the reporter actually asked the question was

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I thought the question in the White House today, What

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did he mean by piggy? Sometimes the best questions are

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simple ones.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 1: And then Caroline Levitt's response was, he's direct in front.

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What does that mean that she's a piggy? I mean,

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Caroline Levitt's response was Trump was being honest, she's a piggy.

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And the American people voted for him. This is what

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she said, voted for him because they wanted in the

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Oval office someone who refers to female reporters.

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Speaker 3: As because he's because he's as you know, he's frank, right,

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he you know, he's transparent. I mean, look at the

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adjectives that she's using to justify an act which I

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think every single one of us here has to acknowledge

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is despicable behavior. Not forgetting about the fact that it's

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by the President of the United States, but by anyone.

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You know. In fact, if you were in elementary school,

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you'd get a time out. If you were in uh,

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let's say middle school, right, you probably would get punched

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in the face, right, And you know, and it only

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gets worse as you get older. I mean, it's so

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beneath the man. I can't believe when I saw it,

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I was I personally, I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it was so shocking that the

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first time I reported on it. There was a disconnect

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between what he said and what he said.

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Speaker 3: You know, the first time I heard it, Ben, I

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actually thought maybe her name was Peggy. Peggy I swear

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at first I did, and then when I turned around,

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I was like, oh, no, he didn't. And then that

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my wife was like, oh, yes he did, and I

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was like, I'd stop, there's no way. And then we

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went ahead, we rewound it and lo and behold, as

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you just showed for us, he most as you know,

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the three Stooges would say, oh he most Sutanly did.

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Moh he mote Sutanly did, right, and that really deserved

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like a backcand It.

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Speaker 1: Was so so bizarre, so you know, and then let's

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go through what else happened in that press conference, because

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there were so many moments. So Caroline Levitt was then saying,

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there's some good news that came out of this government shutdown,

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and she goes after forty three days, one of the

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things that we've determined is this, let's play the quint.

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Speaker 2: The democrats reckless forty three day government shutdown did manage

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to do one valuable thing. It proved that America does

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not need a federal Department of Education. During the longest

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shutdown in history, the Department of Education furloughed ninety percent

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of its staff, and America's education system was not impacted whatsoever.

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Schools stayed fully open across the country, Students attended class

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and received normal in person instruction, and our wonderful teachers

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received their paychecks uninterrupted. The Democrats government shutdown made it

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painfully obvious that American families do not need the Department

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of Education.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Tim, I had a point of order, mister ben

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to the point of order. Point of order is, well,

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I understand that teachers was still teaching classes, was still

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going on. Well, government was actually still functioning despite the

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fact that they were. That all of Congress was basically

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home on a eight week furlough. Does that mean we

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get rid of Congress? Two?

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Speaker 1: Well, it also there's a few aspects of it.

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Speaker 3: Number one.

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Speaker 1: Number one that number two the cruelty that what you

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took out of the government shutdown is to get rid

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of the Department of Education. But three, the stupidity the

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Department of Education does not deal with the way schools

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operate on a day to day basis. Within states, schools

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and the education system are local and state functions. Where

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the federal government comes in, Where the Department of Education

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comes in, is to fill the gaps in areas that

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the states can't do, oftentimes dealing with students who are

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disabled students and helping them, addressing discrimination in schools, addressing

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funding initiatives that focus on federal priorities science and tech

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and things engineering and things like that. The federal government

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provides student aid, student loans and tries to buttress bolster

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the state systems. But it also just reflects when she

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makes a statement like that, well it was operating, we realize, well,

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the thing is the parts that the federal government help

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out in lunches, right, free lunches, and trying to help

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starving and food desert communities. That's where the federal government helps.

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make just about that clip. And I spoke to Randy Weingarten,

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the head of the American Federation of Teachers. I said,

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doesn't it seem like every week this regime comes out

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with another announcement about disbanding the Department of Education, Like

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it just feels like at least every.

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Speaker 3: Crystal wid that they were going to do that a

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long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Every week back and it's just like a sick, cruel culture.

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And then fifth point Cohen, then I'll throw it back.

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Does keep going all this six point seven point two

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hundred and twenty three trillion points. But doesn't it feel

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like the Trump regime enjoys attacking kids, kids, disabled people,

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marginalized groups, and especially kids. Right when they got rid

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of Medicaid programs. It's really impacting kids, harving kids education.

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There is a hatred towards kids. And you know what,

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when you put kids in an education system and kids

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get smart and they have to coexist with other kids

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and you have to be diverse and inclusive and gain knowledge,

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that's a threat to authoritarian regime.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, don't be sorry. Look, you know the whole

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claim by Caroline Levitt. We really can't hold her solely

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accountable for the stupidity that emanates from that gaping anus

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under her nose. It's not her fault if you notice,

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and Ben or Jeremy, if you could find any clip

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of Caroline Levitt grabbing a whole stack of papers, basically

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reading from it, this is all prepared horseshit from Russell Vaught,

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from Stephen peewee Germy Miller, Right, that's what this is.

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And all she's doing is reading off of a script.

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Why she's doing well, she's in the fucking cult, let's

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be honest, and she's not going to do anything to

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jeopardize her position there in the cult, no matter how

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stupid and ridiculous and insane it is. But that's all

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that she's doing. It's not like she's answering for Donald Trump.

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Nobody does that. And yes she is an adult, I

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get that too, But every single Press secretary answers questions

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on behalf of the administration, on behalf of the president

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that is in line with the administration and the president's

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you know, ideas, and she's not answering them personally, she's

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basically reading off of a script. In fact, her job

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is not even necessary. Very soon, AI will actually have

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all of these prepared, scripted answers, so you could have

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an AI robot ask a question to receive back an

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AI response, because that's really what we're having here, And

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you know, I don't. While I blame her for being

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an answer and for perpetuating these lies, the ones who

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I actually find the most despicable is actually the press

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idiots that go there to the press room, to the

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briefing room expecting that they're going to get an honest

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answer to anything. What they should do is try to say,

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you know, what a question here, Carolyn? Yes, Michael, you

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know every day we come here, every day we ask

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you questions, every day you lie to us. Why should

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we even continue to come here. I would love to

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see somebody throw that there. I know that you wear

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in a cross around your neck, but the shit that

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you spew is so it's so antithetical to what Jesus

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would do. Maybe you should put something else around your neck,

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like maybe an albatross, you know, something like that. Why

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is there nobody there to basically make her look as

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stupid as she is, and that way, maybe she does quit.

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Maybe she does, you know, find some God in her

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life where the attack on a female, the attack on children,

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the attack on the disabled, the attack on the poor,

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the attack on the elderly is no longer acceptable to this,

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you know, cross wearing bullshit artist. See.

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Speaker 1: I think my pushback in our debate, I think you

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have it a little inverted in the sense that to me,

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the problem with the press and the corporate news establishment

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in general is that they're so hungry for access and

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money that they have given away all values and principles

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for which we used to hold the press at a

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high standard. And that's why you have the Minus Touch

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network and other independent media emerging. So for me, the

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reason why the press doesn't do that is there just

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looking for access. They gotta do what they perceive is

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good for clicks and their corporate overlords, who are now

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often billionaires with other business interests, using the media as

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their play thing in order to gain access to their

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other revenue streams. And the media people you see in

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the room, they're just kind of stooges and they're pawns

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in this game. See Caroline Levitt. Though that job that

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she's doing, I put more of the onus on her

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because she sawed it. She knows what she's doing and

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while those ideas may not originate with her, she's not

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the originator, but by being the propagator of it, it's

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more than simply repeating it like a robot or an AI.

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Speaker 3: But isn't that really what she's doing? Back? Can't you

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make the analogy that she take like somebody who is

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looking for shelter, because it's snowing out. There's a blizzard,

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and you see a building, you open up the door,

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you go into it, but there's no roof. That's what

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Speaker 1: To The better example to me is Asama bin Laden

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comes up with the plan for nine to eleven, and

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then there are the hijackers, and I'll bring this to

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Saudi Arabia because of the Crown Prince being at the

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White House, they carry it out. They're clearly the terrorists

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taking the orders from somebody. But would you go and say, well,

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they didn't know what they were doing, they were just

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you could have replaced them with anybody, or another example

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being someone hatches the plan for the murder and then

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goes and tells the hit person to do the killing,

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the person who ultimately pulls the trigger. You may be

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able to find others. But what Caroline Levitt is doing,

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I think is pulling the trigger in a way that

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divides our country. And she does seem to do it

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with a delight and a glee and a smile.

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Speaker 3: She does. Smile really gets to me too, brother, she does,

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because the thing she's saying, it's so.

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Speaker 1: Evil that it is that the reaction to it would

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be like if you saw somebody bleeding out on the

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street and you walked over to them and you just smiled.

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And it's the same feeling that you get watching her

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get off and enjoy it as you would when you

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see somebody laughing at the suffering of others, Because what

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she's doing is enjoying, it seems, the torture and the pain.

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Speaker 3: But it's a whole group of them been. I mean, okay,

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so you've heard me even on this show, like last

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time last week when I compared what's his name to

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smiling Bob, Right, the other idiot has it all right.

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On top of that, another smiling idiot is when Steven

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Miller gets on and he starts talking about.

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Speaker 4: They should all be incarcerated, they should all be beaten

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for absolutely turning it and saying that the president is

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not allowed to order an illegal.

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Speaker 3: Strike and hit on some I mean, they are all sadists,

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they are, and they are cruel. Their entire their entire

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agenda is literally cruel, illegal, constitutional, And it's why I

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turn around and say all the time, help us to

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continue to grow this community so big that we don't

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have to worry because I'm a warrior. Right, you know.

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I remember when when I would take an exam, even

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if I studied my ass off and I knew that

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I did well on it, but I was always nervous

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until I got the grade back, no different than I'm

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nervous now about what's going to transpire in twenty twenty six,

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because one thing that Trump is extremely good at is

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making himself into the victim, right. And my fear is

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that when you have, like as I wrote in my

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substec of today, you have people like a Hakim Jeffries

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or a Chuck Schumer that are patting themselves on the

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back for the release of the Epstein fils, but you

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don't hold your own to that same hypocrisy. My fear

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is that He's going to ride a wave of victimization

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again and we're not going to be successful in the

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twenty twenty six midterms, right, and that will ultimately be

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the end of our democratic republic because he will do

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what he's doing now but on steroids, because he knows

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right now, poll after poll is showing that they are

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losing in the twenty twenty six midterms, and if that happens,

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at least we will have our tripartheid system of government

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to keep the executive branch in check. Right now, we

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don't have.

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Speaker 1: That, no, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Right there.

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Speaker 1: Let's then go to the next thing that Donald Trump

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was doing today where he was threatening Democratic lawmakers with death,

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and he was saying that George Washington would hang you.

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So he invokes Washington's Washington would hang you. He's reposting

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these accounts traders, you're involved in sedition, You're a domestic terrorist.

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And these Democratic lawmakers, congress members and senators put out

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a statement that just said to our members of the military,

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the current status of the law is that you can't

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follow unlawful orders because you will be held responsible. Cohen

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kind of liked the discussion that we were having before.

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Not just the general or the commander in chief, although

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with our Supreme Court they give Trump absolute immunity, but

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the general or the Secretary of Defense and his lieutenants

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and colonels in a war tribunal, the person who gets

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the order and pulls the trigger would be held the

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same level of responsibility as the higher ups. Objectively, there

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have been war crimes admitted by the United States on

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a daily basis for a lot of things. But let's

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hone in on the war crimes that are taking place

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with blowing up these fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela.

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We know that the top JAG lawyer, his legal memo,

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said that these were war crimes and extra judicial killings,

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which is consistent with what we know the UK, the

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United Nations, France, Germany, you know, pretty much every country

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deemed these to be war crimes. So Pambondy and the DOJ,

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essentially they overrode the legal opinion of the JAG lawyer,

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which never happens, and they said, this is fine, you

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can do it. And what the Trump regime officials are

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saying is, well, we trust Pambondy, the people covering up

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the child pedo sex trafficking ring, that we support them.

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So that's where we're at, Cohen right now. And Trump

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is making those posts saying kill these Democrats, hang them

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like George Washington would hang them. And Caroline Leavitt was

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asked about it at the press conference. You've accused Democrats

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of inciting violence, but is in this directly inciting violence?

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Now before playing the clip to your point, Cohen, when

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the way this question was framed, it adopts a false

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framework by the Trump regime when they say the Democrats

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are the ones doing this, but overwhelmingly these threats are

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coming from Republicans and MAGA and right wing shams. Doesn't

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mean it never happens from the left, just overwhelmingly. The

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data which the Trump DOJ took down from its websites

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suggests that right wing extremism politically motivated violence overwhelmingly the

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cause of these assassinations and attacks taking place. And even

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when you look at the ones that relate to Trump,

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there are people from right wing families, gun touting kind

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of right wing Trumper families.

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Speaker 3: You know. The funny thing too, When he started talking

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about George Washington would hang you, the first thing that

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came through my mind was that obviously we know that

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Trump doesn't really care about history. I think he was

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really referring to King George, not to George Washington. George

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Washington wasn't hanging anybody short of that on that same

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theme theme. I don't know, Ben, if you saw this,

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and Brigaders if you haven't seen it too, I want

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you to google. I want you to google the following.

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The Coast Guard, as of Monday, is actually declassifying the swastika,

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the noose, and the Confederate flag as symbols of hatred. Now,

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ben join me here for a second as the son

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of a Holocaust survivor my father, right, my father spent

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some time there, not just in an internment camp, but

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for a short time in Auschwitz. I want to be

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crystal clear about something. There is nobody in the world

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that will be able to ever convince me that the

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swastika is not a symbol of hate, that a noose

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is not a symbol of racism and hatred towards the

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black and brown community, all right, Or that the Confederate

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flag is a symbol of peace. It is not. And

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yet this Department of War, which controls the Coastguard thinks

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that this is acceptable under this administration. And this to

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me is blowing This blows me away. This really angers me.

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That the American people are sitting there and saying, yeah,

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you know what, and the KKK's white robes and they're

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pointy little hats, are are symbols of freedom and goodness.

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Speaker 1: They're going to now classify it as potentially divisive under

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a new policy said to take effect December fifteenth. And

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as you said, the noose the Confederate flag and the

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swasticker um and you know, which basically means that if

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people show it or share it, there's no ramifications. And

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but but I guess that you know. One of the

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points as well. Cohen, though, is is like, I just

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want you to think about this. Twenty thirty million Americans

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right now terrified that they're about to lose their health

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care and that they can die. Forty two million Americans

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were tortured with the idea of losing their snap benefits.

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We're heading into Thanksgiving where it's not a great Thanksgiving

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for the American people. Unemployment ticked up to four point

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four percent, and based on what we saw in October,

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we're going to be at five five and a half

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percent in no time. And normally you may see the

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unemployment go down if inflation goes up or vice versa.

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But here we're seeing inflation surge right past three percent

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year over year, and then on many items, ten percent,

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fifteen percent, twenty percent on key items that like the

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American people need, and you're seeing unemployment tick up, and

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that's called stagflation when that happens and Americans can't afford things.

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While Trump saying everything is great, and everybody's rich and

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it's a miracle, and I did this and you're living

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in a golden age. And what there were working on,

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what their priorities are, this is what their think takes, right,

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is not how do we deal with this or that

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or the other thing. It's you know what a real

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problem is in this country. This is what the Trump

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people are saying, the swastika. Why are we saying that

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this is a bad symbol? And then they're sitting around

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at a table the way we're having conversations right and

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people are saying, what if we removed it as a

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symbol of hate? And then told the people in the military,

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go on, use the swastika, use the noose and the

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Confederate flag. And then somebody else in the room goes,

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that's exactly what we need to do right now. And

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someone goes, all right, here's what we're gonna do. Let's

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make it happen. And then they leave the meeting, going

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back to Caroline Levitt, they give her the talking points.

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Great news, everybody, you see my cross.

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Speaker 5: What I'm here to announce today is that weave We've

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made the swastika, and we've made the noose and we've

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made the Confederate flag back to being used to get

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in the mill.

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Speaker 3: Has nothing to do with us, It has nothing to

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do with the black community. I love the blacks. The

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blacks are great. I'm glad. I love the blacks, and

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I'll take it has nothing to do with the clan.

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I'll take it all to do with the clan.

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Speaker 1: I'll take questions, all right. Pretend you're a reporter code

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and asked me a question.

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Speaker 3: I'll take questions. Uh yeah, Hi, I mis love it

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over here. Yeah, can you tell me how is it

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that the swastika, the noose, and the Confederate flag are

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not deemed to be symbols of hate? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Well, Donald J. Trump is a really strong and powerful president,

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and the American people absolutely voted for this. And when

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we talk about free speech, the American people want this

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to happen. Gone are the days in the Biden administration

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when they would be focused on the woke. And now

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we've ended the woke. We are in an error of

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prosperity and everybody is doing incredible right now. Next question,

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that's that right there, and scene is exactly what happens.

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Let's take our first quick break of the show.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Back to political buh bah bah bah beat Down. Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Ben, I'll tell you we're getting a

508
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lot of comments from from our brigaders. Oh my god,

509
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I only love to sit through Michael's commercials. Well, I

510
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appreciate that, you know, Marlowe, Yeah, he is a pain

511
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in the ask me how.

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Speaker 1: That's why in the future I may just try to

513
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pitch advertisers as I'm trying to grow and expand this network.

514
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And I'm like, okay, here's the concept. It's Michael Cohen

515
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,360
a full hour. He's just gonna do ads the whole time. Okay,

516
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,440
But like, what's the show about. It's about you. It's

517
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,320
about you and your product. He'll do this ad that

518
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,079
like the old days of infomercials, it'll just be Cohen

519
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:22,039
ad reads and then uh, and then you know that

520
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,400
Fox has its own funding mechanism. I'll just do Cohen

521
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,639
infomercial ads all day. All right, Cohen. Let's talk though,

522
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:36,199
about the update on Donald Trump's favorite prosecutor, Lindsey Halligan,

523
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,400
the beauty pageant contestant turned insurance lawyer with no federal

524
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,559
prosecutorial experience at all, who Donald Trump handpicked to lead

525
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:49,920
the Eastern District of Virginia prosecution against James Comy after

526
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,280
the career prosecutors, including the Republican Interim United States Attorney,

527
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,280
was basically fired by Donald Trump and pushed out, and

528
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,639
that former Republican United States Interim Attorney wrote a memo

529
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,920
to file saying that there's no evidence to go after Komy,

530
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,719
no evidence to go after New York Attorney General Laticia James.

531
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,920
So I just want you to think about this from

532
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,360
the perspective of a criminal case, where the standard is

533
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:20,000
reasonable doubt. When you get that document in discovery and

534
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:24,360
one of your exhibits to the jury is we got

535
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,199
a memo who's it from the prosecutor's office, which one

536
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,639
them from their office? And what do they say that

537
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:36,239
there's no evidence to go after my client? Really, So

538
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:39,280
not only did they say there's no reasonable doubt, they

539
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,679
said there's no evidence at all. So the first part

540
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,320
of this hearing with Halligan that took place earlier, which

541
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,679
was Comy's request for dismissal, one of the things that

542
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,119
I thought was the bombshell, right, was that the prosecutors

543
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,760
did not turn over that memo, Like, we know that

544
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,880
there's a memo that says don't prosecute Comy by a

545
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:04,280
Republican interim United States attorney then got fired. There's no evidence,

546
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,760
so they didn't turn that over. Why the DOJ and

547
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,880
the Deputy AG's office says don't turn it over? So

548
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,119
to me, that was the first moment. But then Cohen,

549
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:19,960
they go to did the grand jury ever receive the

550
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:25,599
actual and too count indictment that became the indictment that

551
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:30,119
they purportedly voted on in order to indict Comy and

552
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:37,000
find probable cause? And during the hearing, Lindsay Halligan and

553
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:43,519
the prosecutors both said, we never showed the actual indictment

554
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:48,199
to the grand jury. We just showed it to the

555
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,199
four person and one other grand juror, And so people

556
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,119
may be saying, the hell, how does that happen? It

557
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:57,360
never happens. Ever, it never has happened.

558
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: Let's just say that's a pretty significant.

559
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:03,679
Speaker 1: Proceed never has happened before. So there's no like, well,

560
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:06,960
when this happened. No, it never happens. Why because you

561
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,599
have confident people who do this. So what appears to

562
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:13,800
have happened is that Lindsay Callagan first presented a three

563
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,599
count indictment to the grand jury, and according to Halligan

564
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:23,599
and the DOJ, the grand jury rejected the first count

565
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,960
but accepted the final two counts. However, that's not what

566
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,679
the document says. The document says that they rejected all

567
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,840
three counts. According to the Halligan story, because they approved

568
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,000
two counts, she had to print out another copy to

569
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:46,679
get them to sign off on that. That copy was

570
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,920
never presented to the grand jury. But Lindsay Halligan had

571
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,519
the four person and somebody else in another grand jury

572
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:59,199
was there sign off as though it was presented to

573
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,679
the full grind jury and they hadn't seen it. So

574
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,800
I'm going to try to read this, but my eyes

575
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Cohen are not the greatest right now, This says after

576
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,559
the November nineteen, twenty twenty five hearing on the defendants

577
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:18,559
vindictive prosecution Memorandum, the Eastern District of Virginia Grand Jury

578
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:24,679
Coordinated informed, okay, after the it was so small for me.

579
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,639
Coordinator informed the Undersign that the grand jury four person

580
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informed her that they had returned a true bill as

581
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to counts two and three and not as to count one.

582
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,480
The coordinator was informed by the Deputy Criminal Chief to

583
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amend the indictment by removing the text of the former

584
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count one and moving the remaining counts two and three

585
00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:48,400
to reflect discounts one and two, and that it was

586
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,400
the coordinator and the four person who are the people

587
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,760
who were in the room, but not the full grand jury.

588
00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:00,559
Well today, now Halligan's team filed a notice of correction, right,

589
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and their notice of correction goes and says, well, the

590
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:11,440
four person stated in the transcript that the grand jury

591
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approved this, and so what they're trying to do now

592
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:19,719
the four person is just like a regular citizen who

593
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,960
got a jury notice. Right, So the four person doesn't

594
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know the procedure, right that the indictment needed to be

595
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,039
shown to the entire uh, you know, to the entire

596
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:35,719
grand jury. So they're trying to blame the four person,

597
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,119
right though the four person. Look, the four person said it,

598
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:40,800
but yesterday.

599
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: This is the old person supposed to know how the

600
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,159
process works, or they just there on behalf of the

601
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:50,079
grand jurors, the grand jurists. So let me be crystal

602
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:55,199
clear about something, all right. And I've watched now a

603
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:01,199
multitude of former federal prosecutors turn around and say, yeah,

604
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,920
I didn't even know that there was a notice of

605
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:10,360
correction that you can file, simply because in the thirty

606
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,880
eight years that I've been practicing law, I've actually never

607
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:19,360
had or never heard of anybody filing such a thing.

608
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:23,079
I don't even know if what they're saying about this

609
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,360
notice of correction is even something that exists. I mean literally,

610
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,639
I couldn't find it. I look for it. I suspect

611
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,719
maybe that there is something no I practice.

612
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: You know, there's something called a notice of errata, right, yes,

613
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and I filed notice of erratas before. And maybe you

614
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:51,320
do a notice of rata where your case citation is

615
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,639
like thirty three cal dot app dot three thirty three

616
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,239
dash five. But it's three thirty three dash four, right, judge.

617
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,239
And this is what would cause you panic as a

618
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,840
lawyer sometimes because when you were going through your table

619
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of contents. I remember when I was how diligent I

620
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:11,400
would be as a litigator to make sure every point

621
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was whatever, and if I made a mistake, I'd like,

622
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:15,400
oh my god, we need to notice of a rata.

623
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,239
I told the judge that that the case starts on

624
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,599
page three point thirty four dash five, and it was

625
00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:23,960
three thirty four dash six. The idea of a notice

626
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:28,800
of correction, which after you do your hearing, you go

627
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,079
and say, oopsies everything we told you at that hearing

628
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,519
on the substantive issue in the hearing as officers of

629
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the court, where we said that only the four person

630
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:46,679
and one other grand juror saw it. Actually we've now

631
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,119
uncovered something that we had in our possession what weeks ago,

632
00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:55,440
because it's the grand jury testimony. And actually we're gonna

633
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,039
just say the four person mentioned that this was approved

634
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by the grand jury, so we're gonna just put it

635
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on the four person and all. And the four person

636
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,760
didn't know the four person was given something to sign

637
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:13,519
by this interim fake United States attorney and Lindsay Halligan,

638
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,039
and so the four person is not the legal authority.

639
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,519
The legal authority is you, you idiots. It's the lawyers

640
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,880
who are there. You're gonna and if you wanted to

641
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,360
make this argument, you know when you make them, you

642
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,239
make them in court. You know what this would be like.

643
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,239
And I'm sorry to all of our Toronto fans with

644
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,119
the Blue Jays losing the World series to my La Dodgers,

645
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:35,159
it would be this is what it would be like

646
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,599
after the game is over, notice of redo, notice of redo, and.

647
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: People like, the game's over, I want to take I

648
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,199
want to take that pitchback, all right, I'd like.

649
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,119
Speaker 1: To take the pitchback notice and repitch.

650
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,679
Speaker 3: And this really reminds me of, seriously, what this really

651
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,679
reminds me of. And I know you're going to finally

652
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,320
agree with me on this one. This is like, uh,

653
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,960
the movie my cousin Vinnie, and I really want to

654
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,079
be Fred Gwynn, the judge in this and go, you know,

655
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,440
you know, pretending that Lindsay Halligan is Vinnie Gambini, right,

656
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,760
because this is the kind of procedural stupidity that mister Gambini.

657
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,639
You It's like you know. Uh did you just say ute?

658
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,159
Speaker 4: Right?

659
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: What is a ute? I mean, that's that's what we're

660
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,880
talking about here. This is I have Okay, I'm with

661
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,599
you on that. People make citation errors. Maybe you hit

662
00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:37,079
instead of three three three, you did three three three three,

663
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,239
just simply because it happens. So you do the notice

664
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,760
of the correction, the the arada. I get it, I

665
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:49,360
get it, I get it. But those aren't significant errors.

666
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,920
That is the predicate for the entire motion. Yes, what

667
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,679
you're doing is you're doing a correction so that the

668
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,280
record reflects it correctly. That if there's an appear there

669
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,920
is something that they go to page three three three,

670
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:06,639
not thirty three thirty three, which doesn't exist. I get that.

671
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,119
This is the entire procedure. Are now turning around the state.

672
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:14,840
I mean, this is like, yeah, we kind of like

673
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,119
we kind of like did the whole thing wrong. So yeah,

674
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:24,039
but I will tell you, I will tell you that

675
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:27,360
what it does do is it gives them the ability,

676
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:33,760
if granted, to avoid the statute of limitations violation that

677
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,159
would exist if they brought the case. Now. How so,

678
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,239
because the motion that they're bringing brings it back to

679
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,800
the data, the filing as a correction and not as

680
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,880
a new issue.

681
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,559
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I agree with it. You're saying it

682
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:55,800
does which thing though you're talking about like Pambondi has

683
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,519
tried to retroactively, they couldn't go back to the grand

684
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:01,280
jury now.

685
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,079
Speaker 3: No, what she's saying that they don't have to that

686
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,519
they're just correcting the record onto it, even though the

687
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,960
record is completely screwed up because procedurally it was done wrong.

688
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,519
But what they're saying is if we brought back the

689
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:19,440
grand jury and we showed them the documents and so on,

690
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,079
and that they agreed to the indictment, well then lo

691
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,119
and behold. It's correcting the record.

692
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:28,039
Speaker 1: Not one thing you can I don't think you can

693
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:28,599
bring it back.

694
00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that I agree with it. I'm saying

695
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,719
that this is the argument.

696
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:35,559
Speaker 1: I you know, I mean, you know, they could argue

697
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:39,880
that they'll build a time capsule and go back and

698
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,639
maybe tell Lindsay Halligan that she should. Mean, there's so

699
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,599
many things that they could do, but like, you can't

700
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,719
bring this, you can't re impanel this same grand jury tomorrow.

701
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,960
It's done. They're done. They've been released of their obligation.

702
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,440
The preceding the proceeding is over where I'm confident though,

703
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,559
is that this judge I think is going to find

704
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,880
a few things. I mean, there's also the issue though,

705
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,360
and this is different and distinct from what the magistrate

706
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,639
judge talked about, because the grand jury also got false instructions.

707
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So they were told to basically ignore James Comy's Fifth

708
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Amendment rights. That's what they were instructed by Lindsay Allagan,

709
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,079
according to what the magistrate judge implied in the ruling,

710
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,920
and also Lindsay Halligan seemed to suggest to the grand

711
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,400
jury that she didn't have to present the evidence that

712
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,000
they had against him there, but that they had stronger

713
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:49,760
evidence that strategically they were going to show at trial,

714
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,679
and that the burden would then be on Komy to

715
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,840
take the stand and rebutton at trial or some warped

716
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,480
view of the law. So there's the issue also of

717
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:06,480
Halligan giving the jury incorrect legal instructions. Then there was

718
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:13,280
the issue about the grand jury not getting this indictment,

719
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,440
and then there was the issue with the only witness

720
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,840
who testified was an FBI agent who was exposed to

721
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:28,000
attorney client information of James Comy, which disqualified him from

722
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:34,280
testifying and what it seems these but he's still testified nonetheless,

723
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,840
despite being exposed to attorney client privilege, And you would say, well,

724
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,159
why'd they have this FBI officer? Any FBI officer could

725
00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:45,159
show up and basically testify on hearsay based on their

726
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:47,599
review of the file, because only the guy who was

727
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:50,880
exposed to the attorney client privileged stuff was the only

728
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,880
person who was agreeing to testify, which probably gives you

729
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,519
insight into that individual's warped mindset as well. So I

730
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,559
think where this order is going to go, I think

731
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,360
it's going to hit on all of those factors. I

732
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,840
think it's going to find vindictive prosecution. I think it's

733
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,800
going to find that the grand jury never got the

734
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,480
underlying indictment. I think it's going to find that the

735
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:21,880
FBI agent who testified was not qualified to testify based

736
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,800
on exposure to attorney client privilege. I think they're going

737
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,840
to find that the grand jury was given false legal instructions.

738
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:33,159
And I think you're going to find a referral from

739
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,519
all of the judges involved in the case. I think

740
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:38,719
they'll be shoulder to shoulder that Lindsey Halligan should be

741
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,599
looked into based on what she did for a very

742
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:48,880
basic proceeding in theory, this grand jury proceeding. The amount

743
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:54,039
of errors that were made are probably worse that if

744
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:58,039
you just picked any random first year law student and

745
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:01,199
then had them read a book and then do it

746
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,239
in forty eight hours. I mean, it couldn't have been

747
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,239
handled worse.

748
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,159
Speaker 3: It's called disclosure, your fucking idiot.

749
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: You know one other point I want to bring up,

750
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and then I want to give you a layup for

751
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,119
the two fingers salute. So earlier today as well, a

752
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:23,199
Democratic senator, Senator Heinrich from New Mexico put forward what's

753
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:29,079
called a unanimous consent motion to repeal the provision in

754
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:33,519
that continuing resolution that ended the government shutdown, which allowed

755
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:38,119
the individual senators to pursue five hundred thousand dollars payouts

756
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:43,519
at least potentially more from the taxpayers because their phone

757
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:48,159
number showed up in subpoenas or in documents from subpoenas

758
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:52,159
that were issued by federal courts because of their communications

759
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:56,559
relating to the January sixth insurrection, their communications with Trump

760
00:50:56,639 --> 00:51:02,559
and others. Senator Lindsey Graham stands up and objects to

761
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,760
kill the bill so it fails. So everybody remembers how

762
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,559
with the release of the Epstein files, nobody objected when

763
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:17,800
Schumer motioned unanimous consent. Here Lindsey Graham objected, and that

764
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,639
means they've killed us. And again I go back to

765
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:25,480
what I say before, which is Americans are struggling right

766
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,880
now heading into Thanksgiving. That's a given objectively. And when

767
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,880
they see Trump partying with the Saudi Crown Prince at

768
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,920
all of these events, and when we see Lindsey Graham

769
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,960
do things like this, and the Republicans in the Senate,

770
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,800
and when we see the half naked women in the

771
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,199
Martini glasses at Trump's properties, and when we see Caroline

772
00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:00,719
Leavitt enjoying the suffering of others. You know, Trump has

773
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,639
even lost Cohen white voters in the latest Mars Pole.

774
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,679
I mean, you know, took you some time, but in

775
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:15,199
the latest Bars poll, fifty to forty six white voters

776
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,639
disapprove of Trump. Although you know it should not exactly

777
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,079
deserve a lot of credit for realizing that, right now,

778
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,880
let's just say that. But Cohen, to me, you can't

779
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,360
tell any of these stories in slices. And I think

780
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,719
sometimes the problem with creators influencers, and the media is

781
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,199
they tell stories in slices, but they don't show the

782
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:45,039
apple pie. Because you need to make all of these connections.

783
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:49,840
The covering up of the Epstein files is related to

784
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:53,840
this culture of rich, male, often right wing, all the Garks,

785
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,920
but all the Garks in general, screwing over people. It

786
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,719
is a culture of grift and lack of accountability and

787
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,000
a predatory culture that preys on people in all sorts

788
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:10,559
of ways, whether it's with their trafficking rings, whether it's

789
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:17,000
economic predation, whether it is immigration predation. Will you name it.

790
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:26,559
This is a rogue, lawless, criminal, despicable regime. And I'll

791
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:27,840
give you the two fingers salute.

792
00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I don't think you're going to be able

793
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,559
to guess who I want to give the two fingers

794
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:40,599
salute to, because to me, it's very personal. To those

795
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:43,719
of you that read my substack, you would know who

796
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:50,679
it is. I'm giving mind to Representative Stacy Plasket of

797
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,880
the Virgin Islands, and not because she was questioning me

798
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:06,559
at my live house over hearing, not because testifying before

799
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:14,519
Congress is emotionally fucking debilitating. It was one of seven

800
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,760
that I did this. One of course, being live. It's

801
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,599
the fact that she was in communication with the most

802
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:30,280
despicable human being on the planet at the time, Jeffrey Epstein.

803
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:34,280
And it's not the questions that she was asking. Lord knows,

804
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,559
she could have and she should have as a lawyer,

805
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:40,679
as a former prosecutor, she could have come up with

806
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,679
her own questions. Her staff could have come up with

807
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,880
her own with their own questions for me. But instead

808
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:52,440
she's texting with Jeffrey Epstein while I'm going through this scenario.

809
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,440
And it's not just Stacy Plasket that I have a problem.

810
00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:01,719
She owes the American people, she owes the victim, She

811
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,880
owes me an explanation as to her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

812
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,719
It's not as if everybody has her private cell number.

813
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,719
It's not that she would be picking up people's, you know,

814
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,719
information that they think that she should be asking me

815
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:23,519
during a live hearing. It's not that it's you now

816
00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:27,960
have again, ha King Jeffries coming out there and instead

817
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,239
of as the leader or the wanna be future leader

818
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,360
of the of the House, the Speaker of the House,

819
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:37,360
if God willing, we take it back in twenty twenty

820
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,119
six with a censure no no, no, no, it has

821
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:44,400
nothing to do with Stacy Plasket. It's all the Republicans

822
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:47,320
because we beat them with the bill and they have

823
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,679
to now return it. It's the hypocrisy, you know. If

824
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:54,079
we're going to call out as we do here all

825
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:57,000
the time on Political Beatdown, as Ben and I do

826
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,599
on our various other shows as well, if we're going

827
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:03,400
to talk about the hypocrisy of the Republican Party and

828
00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:07,519
ignore the shit that goes on within our own house,

829
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,480
well that's exactly what Trump rode the twenty twenty five

830
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:17,719
election in where he is constantly the victim. And I

831
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,360
am sick and tired of the fact that, like Hakim Jeffries,

832
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:24,840
wants to play nice to everybody because he wants to

833
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,880
be desperately the Speaker of the House. And I am

834
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:34,159
insulted personally that she did it. She does right a riot.

835
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,840
She needs to explain herself and he cannot just whitewash

836
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,000
it and say that this is a Republican hoax. That's

837
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:45,239
Trump's shit, And that's what we fight every single day.

838
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,599
It's why we talk about the Caroline levittz So to

839
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,239
Stacy Plasket, right, fuck you to Hakim Jeffries, for doing

840
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:53,800
what he did.

841
00:56:54,039 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: Fuck you too, definitely a wild card choice for the

842
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,159
two finger salute. All that's going on, and you know,

843
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,840
so you're right in the sense that I wouldn't predict that.

844
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,800
But let me give another perspective, which is the following

845
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:17,800
what she could what she did can be viewed as heinous, reprehensible,

846
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:24,480
worthy of censure. The question ultimately is though she is

847
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:31,440
a non voting at large delegate, she doesn't get a

848
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:36,079
vote in the House of Representatives, so she's able to

849
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:40,440
participate in debates. That's why she was able to question you.

850
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:47,760
So my only point, Cohen, is given all of the

851
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,239
myriad of issues out there and the limited time to

852
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,119
address all of those issues, my only question is the

853
00:57:57,199 --> 00:58:04,320
power of our lens as reporters. With all that's going on,

854
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,639
the question becomes, and I'd pose it as a question,

855
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:15,239
which is am I more offended such that the devotion

856
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:21,679
of finite time is focused on a non voting congressional

857
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:25,880
at large delegate from the Virgin Islands. Now, as your friend,

858
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:30,920
I take it personally in the sense that it was

859
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:36,039
something that was done to you, and so I come

860
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:41,880
at it with a perspective that Epstein was helping coordinate

861
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,519
questions to a friend of mine, to a close friend

862
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:49,840
of mine, and that's not cool. My broader question to ask, though,

863
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,039
is where you have Trump destroying our democracy, where you

864
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:59,199
have war crimes taking place, where you had the Republicans

865
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:04,119
covering up the child sex trafficking ring, where you have

866
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,360
them engaged in crimes against humanity on a daily basis,

867
00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:14,599
where you have people like Pam Bondy and Todd Blanche

868
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,400
moving Gilane Maxwell to minimum security facilities and helping her

869
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,719
get VIP treatment. In that world, the question becomes for us,

870
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:31,280
and this is a journalistic thing, can we appropriately call

871
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,639
out this behavior like we should bad behavior? But the

872
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:41,800
question of weight, the weight of the lens that we use,

873
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:47,679
is something to I think assess, and that would be

874
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,320
my point. Not what she did is fine or acceptable

875
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,639
or good. It's worthy of condemnation. The question is on

876
00:59:55,719 --> 01:00:00,199
a scale of condemnation where we get one thing un

877
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:05,360
two finger salute, but more broadly framed dealing with a

878
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,519
fascist attack.

879
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,719
Speaker 3: That I get your point, but my pushback on that

880
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:20,880
is we want to be above what they're doing there

881
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,039
in DC. On both sides of the off the hypocrisy

882
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,280
is the part that I find to be so reprehensible.

883
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:33,760
You know, it would not be wrong for the leader

884
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,440
or the minority leader in this case, right to turn

885
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:40,760
around and instead of looking into the camera and saying

886
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:45,119
that you know, there's nothing here. It's the reason why

887
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:52,119
more than seventy percent of America Republicans, Democrats, and independents

888
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,880
combined think that Washington and our politicians are full of shit,

889
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,960
all right, and that'sheld for the future of a democratic

890
01:01:03,039 --> 01:01:08,840
republican democratic republic. How many people even here think that

891
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,679
their politicians are full of shit, which they are. So

892
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,840
there's nothing wrong I'm not saying. And I never called

893
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,559
for her to be thrown out. I never turned around

894
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:24,159
and said that she should be censured. I say that

895
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:27,840
she has some explaining to do, all right. How do

896
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,960
we know that she didn't know what the fuck was

897
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:34,360
going on on little Saint James Island. I mean, it's

898
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,880
a tiny little island. Are you really gonna tell me?

899
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,239
Airplanes coming in private airplanes like Epstein's and others, and

900
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,880
you have a bunch of little girls running around there,

901
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,559
and you have all of these high powered men, you know,

902
01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:53,599
coming to the island, from celebrities to politicians to businessmen,

903
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,280
You really think that that type of a secret for

904
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,679
so long stays hidden. I think she has an hour obligation,

905
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,719
just as every single person who won't be named in

906
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,000
those files that will, god hopefully one day be released,

907
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:14,039
they have an obligation to provide answers.

908
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: Right, Which is why And this is I think I

909
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,000
want to show people the type of respectful debate that

910
01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:24,000
we just had. There is what I wish we could

911
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,280
have all the time. There wasn't yelling, there wasn't shouting.

912
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:29,199
I think we each made you know, certain points. You

913
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,480
can as an audience assess it yourself. But that's simply

914
01:02:33,519 --> 01:02:36,159
where And I know the two finger salute that we

915
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:39,719
do at the end of the show doesn't take on

916
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,280
some official whatever you know. I mean, I get it,

917
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,920
but it's you know. But but my point is is

918
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,079
that my if the two finger salute is given to

919
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,960
the person who exemplifies the worst behavior of the week,

920
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,719
that's all, you know, then my thought would be the

921
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,320
people who continue to cover up, who have access to

922
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,079
these files and continue to cover it up, deserve it.

923
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:10,320
So I would give it, even though you could probably

924
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,000
give it to her every day to a pan Bondy

925
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:16,960
and a Todd Blanche and a Cash Pattel and and

926
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,320
that crew that said everybody's.

927
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: Single day, well.

928
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,519
Speaker 1: Every day day you remove him from it, you know,

929
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,760
and you know you could give it to Christine Home

930
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,679
pretty much every day you can give it to you know, uh,

931
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:35,159
pretty much everywhere. You know, all of the cabinet members

932
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,679
you can cycle through. And so there's a little bit

933
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:42,280
of creativity. Anyway, we get it, everybody, Hit subscribe, Hit subscribe.

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Noel Dunfi. So I strongly suggest you want to learn

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a lot about Rudy Kaludi, drunken Giuliani in his mushroom. Hud, Well,

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