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<v Speaker 1>Ending the filibuster. Willingness to end the filibuster is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest single issue in the presidential election that nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. It is the thing, maybe the single greatest

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<v Speaker 1>instance of the imbalanced will between Democrats and their willingness

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<v Speaker 1>to get stuff done versus Republicans and their willingness to

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<v Speaker 1>get stuff done. Consequences be darned. Let's talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>this means. Just a few days ago, Kamala Harris said

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<v Speaker 1>in an interview to Wisconsin Public Radio that she supports

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<v Speaker 1>ending the Senate filibuster in order to pass nationwide abortion legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>So we used to have basically a nationwide rule for

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<v Speaker 1>abortion that was laid down in Roe versus. Wade and

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<v Speaker 1>then subsequently planned Parent versus Casey, that basically said abortion

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<v Speaker 1>is legal throughout pregnancy. Since Roe was overturned, individual states

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<v Speaker 1>can pass their own laws restricting abortion however they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Harris wants to pass a nationwide law, a normal statute

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<v Speaker 1>passed by Congress, majority of the House, majority in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>President signs it, reinstituting basically a federal standard for all

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<v Speaker 1>abortion regulation to permit abortion very broadly. It'll override all

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<v Speaker 1>of the current state laws that are on the books

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<v Speaker 1>limiting abortion. So in Texas abortion is illegal. This would

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<v Speaker 1>purportedly override Texas's law. Now to do it, Harris realizes

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<v Speaker 1>she would need to eliminate the filibuster in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what she's going to do. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>explain what the filibuster is and what its function is. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we know kind of the basic rule for how you

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<v Speaker 1>pass laws in Congress, majority of the House, majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate, President signs it. But over time, over the centuries,

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<v Speaker 1>then this isn't part of the Constitution itself, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tradition. It's a standard for how business in Washington

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<v Speaker 1>gets conducted that sort of grew over time. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>Norman or a convention that has some importance to it

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<v Speaker 1>and that people have for decades thought had value until

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats of last four or five years started to really

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<v Speaker 1>want to pursue their short term goals, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>filibuster rule. So the House and the Senate are two

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of things. They're two different kinds of entities,

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<v Speaker 1>they reflect different kinds of values. The House is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be reflective of the immediate will of the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the Democrat the majority of the American people in

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<v Speaker 1>a more democratic way, a more genuinely democratic fashion. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a democratic institution, meaning it's supposed to be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a microcosm of the country as a whole. All

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<v Speaker 1>of the hundreds of members of the House of Representatives

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<v Speaker 1>get put to re election every two years, so within

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<v Speaker 1>a two year stretch, the makeup of the House of

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<v Speaker 1>Representatives can wildly change. There are so many members of

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Representatives that debate gets limited. Everyone only

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<v Speaker 1>has a certain amount of time that that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>internally how the House of Representatives is governed. House of

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<v Speaker 1>Representatives is a bit more ruckus, a bit more wild

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<v Speaker 1>and crazy, subject to the wins of day to day

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<v Speaker 1>political turbulence. The Senate, though, is something different. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>senators today are directly elected by the people of the

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<v Speaker 1>states they represent, that wasn't in the original design of

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<v Speaker 1>the Constitution as it was ratified in seventeen ninety. As

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<v Speaker 1>it was ratified in the seventeen eighties, the original idea

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<v Speaker 1>for senators was that they would be elected by the

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<v Speaker 1>state legislatures, so there was a kind of a distance

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<v Speaker 1>between US senators and the states they represented. Senators were

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<v Speaker 1>thought to represent the states more so than individual people.

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<v Speaker 1>In a sense, they were responsive to the state legislators

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<v Speaker 1>who put them in office. Now, over time that changed.

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<v Speaker 1>The constitution got amended such that people, individual voters elect

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<v Speaker 1>their US Senators. But the Senate is still kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a different institution from the House. Its members have very

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<v Speaker 1>long terms of office. They're in office for six years.

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<v Speaker 1>The Senate doesn't have as much turnover year over year

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<v Speaker 1>as the House of Representatives does. It has fewer members,

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<v Speaker 1>and debate in the Senate is allowed to go on

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<v Speaker 1>theoretically forever. There's no limitations on debate. The sent of

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<v Speaker 1>views itself as this great deliberative body, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of its character. Its character is different from the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Representatives. It represents different kinds of values, the importance

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<v Speaker 1>the priorities of the states as individual entities. Every state

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<v Speaker 1>gets two members, doesn't matter if you're California or Wyoming,

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<v Speaker 1>you get two members. And what developed over time in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate was again this idea that you can theoretically

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<v Speaker 1>debate forever. Well, what happens when you know Robert Bird

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<v Speaker 1>or strom Thurmond come up there and they start filibustering,

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<v Speaker 1>which means talking and talking and talking and talking and

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<v Speaker 1>debating and debating and debating just as a dilatory tactic,

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to delay and prevent a vote on something. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You Eventually, the Senate came up with this concept of

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<v Speaker 1>invoking cloture cloture c l O t U R, which

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<v Speaker 1>means the closing of debate. So as long as sixty

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<v Speaker 1>of the one hundred senators vote cloture, you can stop

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<v Speaker 1>debate and you can vote on something. Well, that became

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the way to advance legislation effectively. What it

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<v Speaker 1>means is that in the Senate, to advance most pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of legislation in the Senate, you can't just pass it

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<v Speaker 1>with a fifty vote plus a tiebreaker or a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one vote majority. You need sixty votes. Now, there are

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<v Speaker 1>certain budgetary things for which this isn't true. The budget

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<v Speaker 1>reconciliation process allows you to pass things with just a

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<v Speaker 1>simple majority fifty votes. And that's how, for example, in

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump in the first Trump administration, that's how the

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<v Speaker 1>tax cuts were able to get pass. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was able to get passed by getting it shoved

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<v Speaker 1>into the budget reconciliation process. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with like controversial pieces of social legislation, like this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of passing a nationwide abortion law, you need sixty votes,

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<v Speaker 1>not fifty. Now, this could change if the Senate changes

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<v Speaker 1>its own internal rules again, this sixty vote cloture thing,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an internal Senate governance rule. If the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>wants it can change its rules and say, well, to

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<v Speaker 1>invote culture, you actually need fifty five votes, or to

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<v Speaker 1>invote cloture, you just need fifty one votes. To close debate,

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<v Speaker 1>you just need fifty one votes. Kamala Harris announcing that

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<v Speaker 1>she will push for the Senate to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the filibuster rule to pass abortion legislation represents that the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats have this sort of there's this imbalance, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>imbalance between the two parties as relating to how far

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<v Speaker 1>they are willing to go to accomplish their goals. Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>when she was in the Senate and was in the

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<v Speaker 1>minority back in twenty seventeen, talked about how all the

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<v Speaker 1>philibuster rule in the Senate's so important now as she's

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<v Speaker 1>facing the prospect of, well, maybe I could be elected

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<v Speaker 1>president and maybe the Democrats would have a majority in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. In the House, maybe we should break the

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<v Speaker 1>philibuster rule and the way the Democrats have done it

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<v Speaker 1>is so dishonest. Basically, this happened during the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democrats had this. They had two pieces of legislation

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<v Speaker 1>I think one was this Voting Standards Act, where basically

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to export all of California's election law, ballot stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>how you're early voting ballots, ballot harvesting all that. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to export all of California's voting laws to the

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<v Speaker 1>whole country, you know, getting rid of voter id et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And so oh, this is so important, this is so

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<v Speaker 1>important that we should get rid of the We should

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of the filibuster rule in the Senate. We

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<v Speaker 1>should get rid of the sixty vote threshold in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>Just for this though, really to for that is that

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<v Speaker 1>so important a thing. It's about the right to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone has the right to vote. Some states have different

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<v Speaker 1>kind of standards for like how you do these things.

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<v Speaker 1>You're acting like if someone doesn't have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>do you know, no id early mail in without you know,

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<v Speaker 1>needing absentee ballot like like the idea that all these

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<v Speaker 1>voting conventions that we that nobody used circa twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>that that was the core of the American right to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you don't support it, then you don't support

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<v Speaker 1>the right to vote, which is which is absurd. So

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<v Speaker 1>they were willing to get rid of the filibuster for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they're willing to get rid of the philibuster

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<v Speaker 1>for the sake of reinstituting Roe v. Wade by different means. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when this was tried early in the Biden administration, when

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<v Speaker 1>there was Democrat majorities in the House, the Senate and

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<v Speaker 1>Biden in the White House. Now, the problem for the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats was it was a fifty to fifty Senate with

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<v Speaker 1>Harris as the tiebreaker and Joe Manchin, the Democrat senator

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<v Speaker 1>from West Virginia, and Kirsten Cinema, the Democrat senator from Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>They both agreed that the philibuster rule was important. They

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<v Speaker 1>both said, listen, we can't get rid of the philibuster

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<v Speaker 1>rule just for this. If we get rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>filibuster rule now for this, then Republicans will get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the philibuster rule. When they someday come to power

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<v Speaker 1>and they will crush us. We can't. We're not ready

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<v Speaker 1>as a country for the kind of winner take all

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<v Speaker 1>style politics that would then ensue. We would basically become

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<v Speaker 1>We could then wind up becoming almost like a parliamentary system,

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<v Speaker 1>where like, for example, in the UK, the UK is

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<v Speaker 1>basically imagine if the country was just governed by the

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<v Speaker 1>House of Representatives or some kind of weird combo of

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<v Speaker 1>the House or the House in the Senate. In a

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<v Speaker 1>parliamentary system, it's kind of winner take all. Once one

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<v Speaker 1>party or coalition of parties gains power and picks their

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<v Speaker 1>prime minister, they have the votes to get their entire

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<v Speaker 1>agenda passed so they can reshape the whole country, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And what Cinema and Mansion have been arguing

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<v Speaker 1>from the Democrat side, and they were the only ones

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<v Speaker 1>when Biden was trying to get that voting rights bill passed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then later when he was trying to get this

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<v Speaker 1>same bill that Harris is talking about to basically reinstate

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<v Speaker 1>nationwide legal abortion. They were trying to get those two

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<v Speaker 1>bills passed. Forty eight out of the fifty Democrat senators

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<v Speaker 1>senators were okay with abolishing the filibuster. Oh, just for

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<v Speaker 1>that though, just for that, just for this, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so important if you get rid of the filibuster, just

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<v Speaker 1>for quote the things that are important, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>talk yourself into everything being that important. I mean, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think veterans are important enough to break the

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<v Speaker 1>philibuster for Oh, of course, we love our veterans. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think healthcare is important enough to break the

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<v Speaker 1>fill Oh, yes, healthcare is so important. I mean once

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<v Speaker 1>you basically, once you take that step, it's over. Once

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<v Speaker 1>you take the step of we have a filibuster rule

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate except for things that the party in

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<v Speaker 1>power thinks is really really really important, then you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a filibuster rule anymore, and the minority party will

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<v Speaker 1>never be able to block anything that the majority wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do. So the president. Clear Now, Biden was always

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<v Speaker 1>wishy washy about this because Biden, well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>because how mentally with it is Biden. But secondly, Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>whole career in the Senate for thirty plus years and

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<v Speaker 1>his entire time as Vice president, he always was upholding

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of Senate conventional Democrat wisdom. The filibuster was always,

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<v Speaker 1>in his eyes important. When George W. Bush had Republican House,

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Senate, and himself in the White House, Senator Biden

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<v Speaker 1>was ranting and raving about how important the filibuster rule

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<v Speaker 1>is and how terrible a thing it would be if

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<v Speaker 1>George W. Bush tried to pack the Supreme Court and

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<v Speaker 1>all these sort of basic governing conventions that we hold

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<v Speaker 1>to in America. The hour, you know, the Romans would

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<v Speaker 1>call this the most majorum the way of the ancestors.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily something that's etched into American law, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is the inherited wisdom we have received for how

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<v Speaker 1>we should govern in a way that provides stability. Biden

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<v Speaker 1>believed in all that stuff, but is now the figurehead

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<v Speaker 1>it's willing to break all convention to make it. So.

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of, or push for the Senate rather

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of the filibuster rule, which is their

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<v Speaker 1>normal sixty vote threshold to pass big legislation, most kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of legislation in America. In Congress. It's not that you

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<v Speaker 1>need a majority in the Senate, that's the constitutional standard,

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<v Speaker 1>but within the Senate's internal rules, basically you need sixty

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<v Speaker 1>votes to advance it, you need sixty votes to end

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<v Speaker 1>debate on the subject, which effectively means you need sixty

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<v Speaker 1>votes to pass most kinds of legislation. This is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a damp and moderating tool that basically means, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>unless there's pretty broad consensus, we're not going to pass

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<v Speaker 1>really big time significant national legislation. And Democrats have expressed

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<v Speaker 1>this willingness to get rid of the filibuster rule, at

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<v Speaker 1>least for the sake of passing a nationwide abortion permission,

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<v Speaker 1>basically a nationwide law to shut down all of the

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<v Speaker 1>state laws regulating abortion right now. But that's the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats' standard seems to be, we support the filibuster.

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<v Speaker 1>we support the filibuster. But unless we want to pass

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<v Speaker 1>something really important that we really want, which effectively means

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<v Speaker 1>they don't support the filibuster. Now, this is real, revealing

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of imbalance in political will. Democrats are willing

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<v Speaker 1>this far though. Republicans are not willing to touch the

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<v Speaker 1>philibuster rule. All these Republicans are on the record now,

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<v Speaker 1>in fairness, all these Democrats were on the record just

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. That doesn't stop them from being

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<v Speaker 1>totally inconsistent and hypocritical. But Republicans have been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pledging allegiance to the filibuster. I wonder if Republicans should

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<v Speaker 1>start saying, hey, if that's the way they're gonna play,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we need to play by those rules too, because

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<v Speaker 1>to try to pass legislation in the Senate without the philibuster.

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<v Speaker 1>You might not get the chance. Here's why, let's suppor

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<v Speaker 1>it's a doomsday scenario for Republicans this upcoming November fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>the map and the layout, and the certainty that Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>will pick up at least two seats. There are two

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat seats that Republicans are certainly picking up. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say something crazy happens and Democrats get all three.

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<v Speaker 1>If Democrats get all three House, Senate, White House, they

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<v Speaker 1>could pass a law to make Guam a new American state.

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<v Speaker 1>Guam is very liberal. Gwam would pretty much guarantee two

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<v Speaker 1>additional votes in the US Senate for Democrats. They could

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<v Speaker 1>pass a law to make Puerto Rico and DC into

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<v Speaker 1>new American states. They would be pretty left wing. Each

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<v Speaker 1>one would give the Democrats two more votes in the

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<v Speaker 1>US Senate, probably a couple more votes in the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Representatives too, And those are the easy ones. Why

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't you know, you know, let's get the California legislature involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be creative here. Let's create a state of northern

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<v Speaker 1>it up so that Fresno has the least amount of influence.

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<v Speaker 1>The San Luquein Valley rather has the least amount of

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<v Speaker 1>influence humanly possible to ensure that it's two states both

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<v Speaker 1>with massive Democrat majorities give Democrats. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is also giving Democrats more electoral College votes. If

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<v Speaker 1>you make Puerto Rico a state, Puerto Rico gets to

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<v Speaker 1>vote in presidential elections. Puerto Rico, so you know, gets

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<v Speaker 1>electoral College votes, extra couple of electoral College votes for

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats every time. Every new state you create gives them

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<v Speaker 1>more electoral College votes. They can do that, right. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how you create a new state. Basically, to create a

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<v Speaker 1>authorizing it, and a vote by whatever existing state might

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<v Speaker 1>southern Oregon and northern California, you need a vote by

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<v Speaker 1>the California legislature, the Oregon legislature, and you need a

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<v Speaker 1>vote in Congress. But again, if you get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the sixty vote threshold in the Senate, that's more doable.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm saying is Republicans are all saying,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, we would never break the philibuster rule. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if Democrats are willing to break the filibuster rule. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it that crazy to think they would break the filibuster

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<v Speaker 1>rule in such a way as to give themselves permanent

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<v Speaker 1>majorities to vote for themselves a more or less permanent majority.

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<v Speaker 1>The Republicans would then never be able to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the majority. Again, I think Republicans need to really seriously

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<v Speaker 1>consider maybe we should be the ones to break the

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<v Speaker 1>filibuster first, because you don't want to be the second party.

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<v Speaker 1>You might not get the chance to be the second

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<v Speaker 1>party when we return the insane renovation at the California

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<v Speaker 1>State Capitol And how much exactly is it costing us?

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<v Speaker 1>Next on the John Girardi Show. This weird thing has

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<v Speaker 1>developed in Sacramento regarding the use of non disclosure agreements

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<v Speaker 1>by members of the California State Legislature in their negotiations

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<v Speaker 1>regarding pieces of legislation, their interactions with different people lobbying

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<v Speaker 1>with them for legislation. Some of that information has become

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<v Speaker 1>protected by non disclosure agreements. The most significant example of

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<v Speaker 1>this was when it was learned that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the negotiations that took place over the fast food minimum

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<v Speaker 1>wage law, which came into effect this past April, that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the negotiations that lawmakers had with lobbyists

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<v Speaker 1>lobbying entities about it was covered by non disclosure agreements.

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<v Speaker 1>So when that came out that a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>shadiness in those negotiations, like the bizarre Panera Bread exception.

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<v Speaker 1>So for some reason, the twenty dollars per hour fast

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<v Speaker 1>who lobbied Governor Newsom's office about this, is this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Panera Bread franchises. And then Gavin Newsom comes on and says, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>anyway that people who were trying to investigate this. Reporters

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to investigate this found that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>were covered by non disclosure agreements. So non disclosure agreement

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<v Speaker 1>is a contract basically saying, if you need to keep

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this civil penalty will result. And naturally a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people retorted to this by saying, hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is blowney. State lawmakers shouldn't be parties to non disclosure

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<v Speaker 1>agreements about how they came up with legislation. If lobbyists

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<v Speaker 1>are lobbying our lawmakers to pass laws that are governing

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<v Speaker 1>all forty million of us, this is not the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that should be covered that a non disclosure

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<v Speaker 1>agreement should be allowed to govern. You're going to completely

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate any kind of transparency in government if you allow

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<v Speaker 1>such a thing. So Vince Fong, who Vince Pong is

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<v Speaker 1>now a member of the US House of Representatives, but

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<v Speaker 1>back earlier in the year, he was still a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the California State Assembly representing Bakersfield. Vince Fong after

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<v Speaker 1>that story, broke introduced a bill basically to ban NDAs

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<v Speaker 1>between government officials and lobbyists. It was AB two sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five to four. The bill failed on a party line

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<v Speaker 1>vote in the Assembly Elections Committee, and it was basically

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<v Speaker 1>supported it, and none of the Democrats did. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats didn't even vote on the thing. Now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is such a gutless thing that happens in the California legislature.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people will just not vote on something in the

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<v Speaker 1>state legislature, which is different from Congress, I believe, is

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<v Speaker 1>that for something to pass in the California legislature. For

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<v Speaker 1>something to pass in the California legislature, you need a

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<v Speaker 1>genuine majority, not just a majority of everybody who's there voting.

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<v Speaker 1>So if there are let's say seven people on a committee,

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if if only five members of the

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<v Speaker 1>thing doesn't pass. So what often happens in the Assembly

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<v Speaker 1>same thing as voting no. So you have these Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>who cly want to keep having non disclosure agreements for

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<v Speaker 1>their negotiations with lobbyists, but they also don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the record saying no, I oppose, no I

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<v Speaker 1>support non disclosure agreements. They don't want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the record saying that, so they just didn't vote, which

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not responsible for something in the eyes of

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<v Speaker 1>voters when you genuinely are. So. Vince Fong's bill to

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<v Speaker 1>ban non disclosure agreements between lobbyists and state lawmakers that failed.

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<v Speaker 1>That failed on a party line vote. Now Fong got

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<v Speaker 1>to move on to greener pastures in the halls of Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are still left with this bizarre situation of

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<v Speaker 1>with non disclosure agreements in legislative lobbying. Well, here's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing protected by non disclosure agreements, the capital ANX project.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you go to Sacramento, there is the old

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<v Speaker 1>historic California State Capital building. It's beautiful building. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>So when I would go to Sacramento to lobby on

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<v Speaker 1>some abortion related bill, I would always stop by either

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Patterson's office, or maybe I'd go by Shannon Grove's

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<v Speaker 1>office or whoever. All eighty members of the California State

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<v Speaker 1>Assembly and all forty members of the California State Senate

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<v Speaker 1>had their offices there, and so they you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a little office space where the member of

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<v Speaker 1>of staff, and then they'd have cubicles and stuff for oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this the communications person. Here's a scheduler, here's the secretary.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, So the annex was

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<v Speaker 1>ago that this part of the building needed to be renovated,

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<v Speaker 1>restarting restarting it again from the ground up. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of the lawmakers moved to a different state owned building

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of blocks away. They moved their office spaces,

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<v Speaker 1>It's taking them a long time, and you will be

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<v Speaker 1>shocked to hear that the price tag has gone up

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<v Speaker 1>from I think it was originally four Yeah, here's a

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<v Speaker 1>report on it from a local Sacramento news outlet. The

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure project took way more to build than was originally

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<v Speaker 1>into diticipated, almost like a high speed rail system or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the story though, that a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>cost overruns have been protected by non disclosure agreements the

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<v Speaker 1>California This is a story by Ashley Zavala, who's really

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best reporters covering Sacramento. She works for

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<v Speaker 1>a local Sacramento area TV news outlet. The California legislature,

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<v Speaker 1>she reports, has been using non disclosure agreements to keep

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<v Speaker 1>most information secret about the planning and construction of a

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<v Speaker 1>one point two billion dollar taxpayer funded building that will

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<v Speaker 1>house the offices of state lawmakers, the governor, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant governor. Following a three month long investigation in a

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<v Speaker 1>series of legislative Open Records Act requests, her news station

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<v Speaker 1>KCRA Channel three in Sacramento, the NBC affiliate, learned project

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<v Speaker 1>leaders required more than two thousand people to sign the NDAs,

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<v Speaker 1>including several current and former state life lawmakers, government officials,

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of state employees, and hundreds of other consultants, contractors, architects,

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<v Speaker 1>construction and utility workers. For the last six years, the

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<v Speaker 1>NDAs have served as legally binding contracts ordering those involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the Capital Annex project to keep confidential a broad

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<v Speaker 1>range of information, while threatening legal action against those who don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Various legal experts told KCRA three they were alarmed by

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<v Speaker 1>the development, noting taxpayers and voters are entitled to the

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<v Speaker 1>information while it is legal, Some state lawmakers and experts

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<v Speaker 1>said the use of NDAs like this should be banned,

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<v Speaker 1>with the information protected under NDAs. The estimated price tag

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<v Speaker 1>for the project swelled from four hundred and forty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to one point two billion dollars. It's been three

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<v Speaker 1>years since the legislature provided an update on the project.

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<v Speaker 1>The small group leading the effort, Joint Rules Committee, has

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<v Speaker 1>used environmental litigation as an excuse to keep taxpayers in

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<v Speaker 1>the dark about the project overall. The committee most recently

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<v Speaker 1>refused to provide KCRA Channel three bid information to prove

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<v Speaker 1>that the millions it secretly spent on Italian stone work

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<v Speaker 1>was the most affordable project was the most affordable option

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<v Speaker 1>for taxpayers. The stone work is just one small aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of the project. How exactly project leaders are spending taxpayer

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<v Speaker 1>money overall is mostly unknown. So they've basically so here.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got this massive construction project that I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I didn't know all the issues involved. I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought the Capital Annex looked fine. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was not as pretty as the actual Capital building itself

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<v Speaker 1>that it was attached to, and it was clearly more

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<v Speaker 1>a product of the seventies than when it was made.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought it was fine as buildings go. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to look pretty nice. I always thought the offices

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<v Speaker 1>were fine, the air conditioning was good. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But they demolished this thing. Then you have a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people who got angry with how the Capital Annex

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<v Speaker 1>thing was going. They sued using state environmental law, you

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<v Speaker 1>know SIQUA. They sue using SEQUA to stop this, which

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<v Speaker 1>is hilarious when liberals use their own tactics against each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got this billion plus dollar project for our

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<v Speaker 1>state capital. We've had no update on why or how exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The costs have skyrocketed by almost three x, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>got over two thousand, almost two almost twenty one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people who've signed an NDA to not let anyone know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the project. That one's allowed to say.

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<v Speaker 1>None of the contractors, none of a bunch of the lawmakers, contractors,

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<v Speaker 1>all these people involved with redesigning the capital annex. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>is allowed to talk publicly about what's going on for

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<v Speaker 1>this project that the public is funding. No more NDAs

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<v Speaker 1>in state lawmaking. Someone ought to come up with a

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<v Speaker 1>ballot initiative to that effect. This is ridiculous. When we

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<v Speaker 1>return a fortunate turn for Fresno State as NLV, UNLV's

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback quits over nil money, the first of many such disputes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Next on the John Girardi Show, Matthew Sluka,

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<v Speaker 1>the starting quarterback for the UNLV football team, which was

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<v Speaker 1>having a very good year. UNLV is undefeated. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>they were ranked number twenty three in the country. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a mid major team to crack the

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<v Speaker 1>top twenty five, that's pretty significant. Having a great year

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<v Speaker 1>their quarterback, and they're playing Fresno State on Saturday. Their

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback just announced, effective immediately, he's quitting the team. Why, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening right now in college football is we've adopted

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<v Speaker 1>this new thing where players can be paid compensated for

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<v Speaker 1>their use of their name, image, and likeness. And this

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<v Speaker 1>kid was apparently his take on this is that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I was told I was going to get paid one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars to be the quarterback. I haven't been paid.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I signed up to be quarterback here in

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<v Speaker 1>a UNLV. I'm out anyway now. It's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>he said. She said, Uh, the offensive coordinator told me

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<v Speaker 1>I'd got one hundred thousand. He never said that terrible contract. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>no one ever agreed to anything on paper. One, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>make it easier for President State to win. But two,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first of probably a lot more to

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<v Speaker 1>come as far as contract disputes for college football players.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll do it for John Girardi Show, See you next

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<v Speaker 1>time on Power Talk
