WEBVTT

1
00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.

2
00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Matt. I've got a great show planning

3
00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:30.640
<v Speaker 1>for you tonight. You'll know my guest tonight from her

4
00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:34.439
<v Speaker 1>appearances on such websites as Momsbang Teens dot com and

5
00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:38.119
<v Speaker 1>MILP Psycho black dot com. You can find links to

6
00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:40.200
<v Speaker 1>all of our social media in the episode description, and

7
00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.479
<v Speaker 1>I want to recommend you check out her website, Sexy

8
00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Karen xxx dot com and her only fans at Karen Fisher.

9
00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Is that correct?

10
00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

11
00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:52.200
<v Speaker 1>There you go. Ladies and gentlemen join me and welcoming

12
00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the curvacious. I don't like the term legend. Legend sounds

13
00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:01.399
<v Speaker 1>like old, but ye, you are kind of a legend

14
00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:03.200
<v Speaker 1>in this stet ladies and gentlemen, Karen.

15
00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Fisher, than thank you.

16
00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Hi, Karen. Could you take me through initially getting into

17
00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the industry? When did you decide, like, oh, whether it

18
00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.599
<v Speaker 1>was stripping or dancing camp, whatever it was, was there anything?

19
00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.079
<v Speaker 1>What was your first step into the adult entertainment industry?

20
00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.840
<v Speaker 2>So my first step actually was just as like a dancer,

21
00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and I started like, I'm from Oregon, Oregon. You can

22
00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.480
<v Speaker 2>dance when you're eighteen, So it's almost as soon as

23
00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:40.079
<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen, I started working at a gentleman's club

24
00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:45.439
<v Speaker 2>in Oregon. Yeah, so that was my first step, and

25
00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:46.879
<v Speaker 2>I think, oh, sorry, go.

26
00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Ahead, no no, no, no, please please please go ahead.

27
00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I think I like, obviously I knew what it was,

28
00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and it always kind of not always, but you know,

29
00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.680
<v Speaker 2>it was the idea for a long time had like

30
00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.640
<v Speaker 2>trigued me. And also I wanted to like be able

31
00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:07.079
<v Speaker 2>to move out of my parents' house and not have

32
00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:11.360
<v Speaker 2>to like you know, slave away at some minimum wage

33
00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.560
<v Speaker 2>job and then also go to school. So that's kind

34
00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:20.680
<v Speaker 2>of what like like drew me to stripping.

35
00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:25.560
<v Speaker 1>So okay, let me ask you. Did you look uh

36
00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the way you do now? Back then? Were you as

37
00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.400
<v Speaker 1>a I don't what is the correct term busty? I

38
00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:34.479
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say like Karen is one of the

39
00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:39.280
<v Speaker 1>best busted chested women in all porn, uh, but what

40
00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:41.400
<v Speaker 1>is Were you as busty back then?

41
00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:45.319
<v Speaker 2>No? I was busty, but I mean, I you know,

42
00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I had like more a totally different body type when

43
00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I was younger. I was really good, but I did

44
00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.919
<v Speaker 2>have you know, for my size, I had pretty good

45
00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.919
<v Speaker 2>sized boobs, but not you know, as big as now

46
00:02:57.280 --> 00:02:57.639
<v Speaker 2>did you.

47
00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, dance always go through booms and busts. You know,

48
00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.599
<v Speaker 1>there's some nights when you pay your rent for the

49
00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.599
<v Speaker 1>next two months, or some nights when you end up

50
00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.319
<v Speaker 1>paying the house and you go home with nothing.

51
00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, So where I worked, like it was a first

52
00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:18.879
<v Speaker 2>club to be on like the west side of town,

53
00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:24.520
<v Speaker 2>so it was pretty good. Like I didn't work every

54
00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:28.439
<v Speaker 2>single shift, so maybe like you know, Monday night, Tuesday

55
00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:34.400
<v Speaker 2>nights might have really sucks, but at that time, like

56
00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:40.400
<v Speaker 2>when I first started, it was really good. Yeah, and

57
00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:44.240
<v Speaker 2>then I think like it kind of died out. Sure, yeah,

58
00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.240
<v Speaker 2>you're right, But at first it was like the only

59
00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:48.199
<v Speaker 2>one on that side of town, so it was like

60
00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.639
<v Speaker 2>a huge deal. Yeah, so super so.

61
00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:53.759
<v Speaker 1>You had like the only club on that side of

62
00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the town though you're a you know, eighteen year old girl.

63
00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.919
<v Speaker 1>That I mean, did you clean up right away or

64
00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.120
<v Speaker 1>did you really have to like learn the ropes first?

65
00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I think I was just so like excited. This

66
00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:11.599
<v Speaker 2>is like what I've always thought about like new girls

67
00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:13.879
<v Speaker 2>is guys can kind of just like smell it on

68
00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:17.759
<v Speaker 2>you and you're excited and you're not like jaded and like,

69
00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:21.399
<v Speaker 2>but this you know, like you can get after doing

70
00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:27.160
<v Speaker 2>it for a long time. So I did really well, yeah,

71
00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.519
<v Speaker 2>like right off the bat. Actually, I feel like I

72
00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.480
<v Speaker 2>made more money when I first started, just because I

73
00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:36.839
<v Speaker 2>was so excited and like gung ho, you know to

74
00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:37.800
<v Speaker 2>be doing.

75
00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.240
<v Speaker 1>That. Yeah. Yeah, so you said you thought about it beforehand?

76
00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Was that? I mean like like, like how young were

77
00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you thinking about When was the first time like you

78
00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:51.160
<v Speaker 1>knew this was a thing? I movie you Saul, Did

79
00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you see strip teas and think that?

80
00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.240
<v Speaker 2>No? Okay, no, I wasn't a movie. I think it

81
00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:02.079
<v Speaker 2>just like maybe a girl that was like older than

82
00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:07.519
<v Speaker 2>me in school like was doing it and I heard

83
00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:11.519
<v Speaker 2>about it, and I just wondered, like what is that like?

84
00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:16.839
<v Speaker 2>And like the idea of also, you know, being a kid,

85
00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:22.120
<v Speaker 2>like not having like money to do with whatever you

86
00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:27.040
<v Speaker 2>want to do it, like that was intriguing as well. Sure,

87
00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think like my mom and I just didn't

88
00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:31.959
<v Speaker 2>get along when I was a teenager. I was super

89
00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:35.639
<v Speaker 2>rebellious one so I wanted to like move out, and

90
00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I felt like this was like and then two means

91
00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:42.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, but also I really liked doing things that

92
00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.199
<v Speaker 2>like I wasn't supposed to do, so I think that

93
00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:46.839
<v Speaker 2>was like part of it. Yeah.

94
00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I think the next thing you got to do, though,

95
00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:52.120
<v Speaker 1>is become like a full time Christian and denounce porn,

96
00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:55.839
<v Speaker 1>and that'll be super rebellious of you, you know, reverse

97
00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:59.920
<v Speaker 1>turning around. I always hate I always I understand people

98
00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.079
<v Speaker 1>bad experiences, but I always hate when people come out

99
00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and disparage an entire industry, you.

100
00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, I mean I don't think there's like whatever

101
00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I do you find religion or what that is, what

102
00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:17.120
<v Speaker 2>it is, but like just to trash it, and yeah, trash.

103
00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It for all people. Like you can trash your own experience.

104
00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:21.959
<v Speaker 1>You lived it. You know, you're more than welcomed if

105
00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.480
<v Speaker 1>someone treat it you wrong or whatever, You're more than

106
00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.839
<v Speaker 1>welcome to do that. But when someone comes out and Karen,

107
00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you should not be doing porn, let me explain to

108
00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.439
<v Speaker 1>you why it is so detrimental. You could be working

109
00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.600
<v Speaker 1>in an office eight hours a day, Why wouldn't you

110
00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:39.639
<v Speaker 1>want to just go do that and making one third

111
00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:41.959
<v Speaker 1>of what you mean? It's crazy to me, you know.

112
00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I feel like different things in power, like

113
00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:48.800
<v Speaker 2>different people. Like when I was younger, I had jobs,

114
00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:53.600
<v Speaker 2>like God, I worked and worked at a daycare center.

115
00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I worked. What else did I do? I don't know,

116
00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.920
<v Speaker 2>but like to me, to me, that was like so

117
00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:08.399
<v Speaker 2>much worse, just you know, making very little money. I remember,

118
00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.319
<v Speaker 2>like god, maybe making two hundred dollars a week and

119
00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:16.360
<v Speaker 2>make grand that I was like part time, but it

120
00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.519
<v Speaker 2>was and it was just like gross, you know what

121
00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And I don't know, I had just hated it.

122
00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.639
<v Speaker 2>I hated it. I would to me, that is like

123
00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:34.759
<v Speaker 2>so much more like exploited. In my opinion, then that's

124
00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:37.519
<v Speaker 2>how I felt. Then I'm you know, stripping.

125
00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, I you know, I think there's a lot

126
00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.560
<v Speaker 1>of guys listening to this right now coming to the

127
00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:47.079
<v Speaker 1>realization like, oh shit, I am being exploited. Like I'm

128
00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:48.920
<v Speaker 1>in there and I make X amount of money for

129
00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.680
<v Speaker 1>my company every day and I come home with this

130
00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:54.959
<v Speaker 1>percentage of that, a very very very tiny percentage of it.

131
00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Whereas with you if you go out and you dance,

132
00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:00.439
<v Speaker 1>or if you produce your own I mean, you have

133
00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:04.560
<v Speaker 1>gatekeepers obviously taking a little bit, but you can determine

134
00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:07.199
<v Speaker 1>how much money you want to make if you go

135
00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:09.120
<v Speaker 1>next week You're like I want to go on some

136
00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:12.399
<v Speaker 1>sick vacation. I need to bank up this much money.

137
00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.040
<v Speaker 1>You have the opportunity to go out and book those

138
00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:17.480
<v Speaker 1>scenes and do that. And that's what's so what I

139
00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:21.319
<v Speaker 1>find so cool about this industry is it's almost like

140
00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:25.079
<v Speaker 1>an English class Like it's not math in terms, and

141
00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not science. There's no hard answer to it. But

142
00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:30.920
<v Speaker 1>what's interesting is Karen Fisher can do anything she wants.

143
00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.799
<v Speaker 1>If you want to do like some weird punk rock

144
00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.840
<v Speaker 1>scene or your hairs and spikes and whatever. I understand

145
00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:40.679
<v Speaker 1>you don't, but if you did want to, someone would

146
00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:43.240
<v Speaker 1>buy it. Someone would definitely want to see that and

147
00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:47.120
<v Speaker 1>pay money. That's like, gotta feel so empowering to you

148
00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that people go like Karen Fisher and her body, Oh

149
00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.799
<v Speaker 1>my god, I will do anything for it.

150
00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

151
00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:55.559
<v Speaker 1>Like do you ever get overwhelmed by that? Or have

152
00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you ever?

153
00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.639
<v Speaker 2>I never think about it, like, to be honest, I

154
00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:02.600
<v Speaker 2>don't like think, oh, these and men like whatever. I

155
00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:08.840
<v Speaker 2>never think about that. But it's I mean, obviously I

156
00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:12.159
<v Speaker 2>know like some people like because they tell you, but

157
00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.639
<v Speaker 2>in general, it's not something I think about, but it is,

158
00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:23.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's much better to them, like having no

159
00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:29.080
<v Speaker 2>attention at all, like having nobody you know, nobody, I mean,

160
00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, to some degree. I do like attention, although

161
00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.759
<v Speaker 2>like if it's too much, I get overwhelmed. So it

162
00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.399
<v Speaker 2>is like cool, but it's not something I spent like

163
00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.600
<v Speaker 2>a ton of time like thinking about, because it's kind

164
00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:42.799
<v Speaker 2>of like a weird thing to think about, if you

165
00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:43.399
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

166
00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't even just when I put an episode

167
00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.360
<v Speaker 1>out and I get a call, Okay, great episode, really

168
00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:52.320
<v Speaker 1>like that question. It's such a like a great feeling

169
00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:55.039
<v Speaker 1>to me. But I can't imagine if every time I

170
00:09:55.080 --> 00:10:00.320
<v Speaker 1>clicked refresh, if I had like ten thousand mentioned like,

171
00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I would handle that. So it's

172
00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.200
<v Speaker 1>funny you and I both hate office work and think

173
00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.480
<v Speaker 1>we're being exploited and everything else. But did you realize

174
00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:14.320
<v Speaker 1>how much work would go into twenty twenty four porn

175
00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:17.879
<v Speaker 1>in terms of social media? And maybe you have a

176
00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:22.840
<v Speaker 1>manager that's totally fair, but social media promotion over here,

177
00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.720
<v Speaker 1>reddit or whatever. Did you realize how much work actually

178
00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.159
<v Speaker 1>goes into this industry that most people look at and

179
00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:32.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, that's easy stuff.

180
00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people think it's easy. I mean it's not. It's work.

181
00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:42.120
<v Speaker 2>It's effort. It's not like it's rocket science or.

182
00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:46.759
<v Speaker 1>You're not working in a coal mine, right, like exactly, No.

183
00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not so it's not like that, but it is

184
00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:52.879
<v Speaker 2>quite a bit of effort. Like every day I'm doing

185
00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:56.960
<v Speaker 2>something and you know, just about in your right, I

186
00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.519
<v Speaker 2>have kind of slocked on my social media, but now

187
00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm back on it and that is super help, the

188
00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:08.559
<v Speaker 2>to promote yourself and you know, connect with your fans

189
00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:10.679
<v Speaker 2>and a'mout what you're doing.

190
00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so do you you still when when did

191
00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you stop dancing or do you still dance?

192
00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Oh no, I stopped like gosh, maybe when

193
00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:24.879
<v Speaker 2>I was like like twenty two or twenty three sounds

194
00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:26.360
<v Speaker 2>somewhere around then. Yeah.

195
00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.720
<v Speaker 1>And was it just you banked up enough where you're

196
00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:30.279
<v Speaker 1>like I can make the next move or were you

197
00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:31.840
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like I'm done with this shit.

198
00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I just didn't really like.

199
00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:38.000
<v Speaker 1>It.

200
00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I just wasn't like the lifestyle that I wanted to have,

201
00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Like I really didn't enjoy like, you know, a lot

202
00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.240
<v Speaker 2>of drinking, at least for me, especially because I was

203
00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:52.480
<v Speaker 2>at the age where people like to like drink a lot,

204
00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.559
<v Speaker 2>so I was probably I just realized, you know, I'm

205
00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:58.919
<v Speaker 2>drinking too much. I don't really want to like stay

206
00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:02.240
<v Speaker 2>out late and then also it was kind of so

207
00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:06.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was like twenty four twenty five when now

208
00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:08.639
<v Speaker 2>that I'm thinking about it, like when also there was

209
00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:13.480
<v Speaker 2>more options, like websites, like adult websites were just starting

210
00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.679
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. And also the club that I

211
00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.440
<v Speaker 2>worked at there was a lot of feature dancers like

212
00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:27.639
<v Speaker 2>magazine models and magazine models and like you know, important

213
00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:31.279
<v Speaker 2>to stars that would feature there. And so that really

214
00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.840
<v Speaker 2>like intrigued me. So I think I just wanted to

215
00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of like try something different. I was kind of

216
00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:40.759
<v Speaker 2>over a being like over the like working in a bar.

217
00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to do something different.

218
00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:45.879
<v Speaker 1>For sure, for sure. So then what was the next move?

219
00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you go online or did you start shooting scenes

220
00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:48.919
<v Speaker 1>or so?

221
00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:51.919
<v Speaker 2>Like this girl that I was stround with, she had

222
00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:55.759
<v Speaker 2>started doing you know, magazines and movies, and she just

223
00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.759
<v Speaker 2>asked me, because I really didn't know how to go

224
00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.600
<v Speaker 2>about it, you know what I mean, and like it's

225
00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.919
<v Speaker 2>not like now where there's tons of agencies and everything.

226
00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:10.799
<v Speaker 2>She just asked me if I wanted her to send

227
00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:13.240
<v Speaker 2>my photos around, and I was like sure, And then

228
00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I think like a week or two later, Score magazine

229
00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:23.120
<v Speaker 2>blew me out, and then she started an adult website

230
00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:26.919
<v Speaker 2>and stopped working at the club, and so she introduced

231
00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:33.799
<v Speaker 2>me to her webmaster and I started my own website.

232
00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:35.919
<v Speaker 2>So I mostly did that, and then I tried, like

233
00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a few times to go to LA and like do more,

234
00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:44.600
<v Speaker 2>but it would be like, Okay, I'm paying for a ticket,

235
00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm paying for a hotel, I'm paying for rental car

236
00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:51.240
<v Speaker 2>because Ellie's like so big it's hard to get around

237
00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and there was no uber, so I was paying for

238
00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.480
<v Speaker 2>all that, and then I would go there and like

239
00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:03.879
<v Speaker 2>scenes would cancel and I would end up just like

240
00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:07.720
<v Speaker 2>breaking even, and so I just was like, this is

241
00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.759
<v Speaker 2>not you know, your time. Yeah, yeah, this isn't really

242
00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:16.399
<v Speaker 2>working out. So I just kind of focused on my

243
00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.000
<v Speaker 2>website for a long time because at that time there

244
00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:23.039
<v Speaker 2>were no other like not there were no other There

245
00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:27.679
<v Speaker 2>were very many adult sites online, so it was a

246
00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:31.200
<v Speaker 2>lot more lucrative than it is now for an adult site,

247
00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:32.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, just a website.

248
00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and that's so interesting. I always think back, is, uh,

249
00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.440
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you first, the person who you know

250
00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:42.159
<v Speaker 1>showed you all this, and is she famous? Is she

251
00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:43.559
<v Speaker 1>in the industries that or was she?

252
00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Her name is Karina kurbs I don't think she's done

253
00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:52.480
<v Speaker 2>anything for a really long time, and I think she

254
00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.960
<v Speaker 2>just retired living in normal life now. She was quite

255
00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.919
<v Speaker 2>a bit older than me, and then I think she

256
00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.039
<v Speaker 2>had I don't know, she had some things going on,

257
00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.159
<v Speaker 2>so she kind of got out of the business.

258
00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.679
<v Speaker 1>I always think about the early online pioneers in this

259
00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.240
<v Speaker 1>type of stuff like burninganngel dot com comes to mind,

260
00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:18.159
<v Speaker 1>things like Liz Vicious was a person who early on

261
00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:20.360
<v Speaker 1>when I was like in high school and I'm going

262
00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:23.159
<v Speaker 1>through the computer and find it. So you you really,

263
00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:26.919
<v Speaker 1>in a way, you were on that list of people

264
00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:32.000
<v Speaker 1>early on who understood that there is a desire for

265
00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:36.559
<v Speaker 1>individualized content. You essentially invented OnlyFans. You just didn't tell

266
00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:41.320
<v Speaker 1>anyone about it, which is pretty cool, huh. But yeah,

267
00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll talk about that. We're gonna take a

268
00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:46.399
<v Speaker 1>break in a second, but I want to come back

269
00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to your film career because you've worked with some real legends,

270
00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and I want to talk about your time just doing

271
00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:56.000
<v Speaker 1>different shoots and going back a while. Today, my guest

272
00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.200
<v Speaker 1>is Karen Fisher. She's a We're gonna by the end

273
00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.120
<v Speaker 1>of the episode figure out a term to use other

274
00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:05.000
<v Speaker 1>than legend because legend doesn't to me, it doesn't sound

275
00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.440
<v Speaker 1>She's a superstar in this industry and she has been

276
00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.919
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Sexy karenxxx dot com and her

277
00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.960
<v Speaker 1>only fans go check it out at Karen Fisher links

278
00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:16.879
<v Speaker 1>to all social media and everything else is going to

279
00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:19.000
<v Speaker 1>be in the episode description, so make sure you check

280
00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that out and we'll be right back. All right, We're

281
00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:34.320
<v Speaker 1>back with my guest today, Karen Fisher, Sexy karenxxx dot

282
00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:38.000
<v Speaker 1>com or her only fans at Karen Fisher. Karen, I

283
00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:40.639
<v Speaker 1>have a game for you today, and I want to

284
00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:43.200
<v Speaker 1>test your own knowledge about one of my favorite porn

285
00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.679
<v Speaker 1>stars of all time, Karen Fisher. We're gonna play a

286
00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:49.080
<v Speaker 1>game called I said, what do you like.

287
00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:52.039
<v Speaker 2>It when you're any girls talk fantasy to you? I said,

288
00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.480
<v Speaker 2>what kind of obsessed with? Course?

289
00:16:54.519 --> 00:17:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Con?

290
00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Now?

291
00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I said, what is a game where you, the world

292
00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.640
<v Speaker 1>famous portn star have to identify your own work?

293
00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay.

294
00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I've got three audio clips for you, and your job

295
00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:17.519
<v Speaker 1>today is to identify which scene that audio clip comes from. Okay, okay, okay.

296
00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I will give you multiple choice, So when the clip plays,

297
00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.559
<v Speaker 1>if you think you know what it is, hold off.

298
00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Let me give you your choices, and we will see

299
00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.200
<v Speaker 1>how well you know your own content.

300
00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I'm.

301
00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Gonna play the first clip here for you.

302
00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh oh man, now hi and get you clean up.

303
00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:50.599
<v Speaker 1>My husband is come, Karen, what's that from a Cougar

304
00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:54.680
<v Speaker 1>season dot com? B my Friends Hot mom dot com

305
00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.400
<v Speaker 1>or C neighbor affair dot com?

306
00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, oh, I have no I'm gonna guess see.

307
00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I think on my BC you are correct it was

308
00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.599
<v Speaker 1>neighbor affair dot com. That's correct.

309
00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:09.759
<v Speaker 2>That's so funny.

310
00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh, let's do clip number two?

311
00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Good boy not fucking calm in my mouth?

312
00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:25.039
<v Speaker 1>And when I taste it, Karen, was that clip we

313
00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.480
<v Speaker 1>just played for you there? And I do wonder what

314
00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:31.039
<v Speaker 1>it tasted like? Uh? Was that from Seduced by a

315
00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Cougar dot com? Free use milf dot com or milfsoup

316
00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:36.279
<v Speaker 1>dot com?

317
00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:42.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I'm gonna guess see.

318
00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, the correct answer was B free use milf dot com.

319
00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that went okay, Yeah I was because sometimes

320
00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.319
<v Speaker 2>it takes me a second to like think of like

321
00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.599
<v Speaker 2>what movie was like anyways, So.

322
00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I I couldn't. I wouldn't be able to pick

323
00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:04.759
<v Speaker 1>any of these out. So kudos to you for, you know,

324
00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:07.200
<v Speaker 1>even trying. I would just be like, I don't know,

325
00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:12.039
<v Speaker 1>I sound like a mess. There, let's do clip number three.

326
00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I think you should just put it in. Yeah,

327
00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:19.240
<v Speaker 2>no one will.

328
00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Ever know, Karen, is that clip from a cuckhunter dot com?

329
00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Be Lethalcougars dot com or C Mypervyfamily dot com?

330
00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, maybe see I'm just going with C.

331
00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:43.279
<v Speaker 1>That's correct, That's correct My Prairie Family. So two for three, excellent,

332
00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:48.039
<v Speaker 1>excellent score. It's kind of interesting. You have shot so

333
00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:51.200
<v Speaker 1>many scenes now, have you ever run into anyone in

334
00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:53.559
<v Speaker 1>person and they've been like, oh, yeah, we had text

335
00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:55.440
<v Speaker 1>at one time and you were like, oh yeah, I

336
00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:56.039
<v Speaker 1>guess we did.

337
00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Technically I have a pretty good memory. But happened like

338
00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:01.920
<v Speaker 2>once or twice.

339
00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is that awkward or is that kind of just

340
00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.799
<v Speaker 1>accepted in the like in real life, like not you know,

341
00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean outside of.

342
00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:13.839
<v Speaker 2>Lapped it off like it wasn't you know like what

343
00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:17.920
<v Speaker 2>this guy was like, he looks so familiar, like I've

344
00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:20.400
<v Speaker 2>seen you before, like met you before. He said, yeah,

345
00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:24.680
<v Speaker 2>we we like we films together. I was like, oh

346
00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:27.640
<v Speaker 2>my bad. So when we just flapped it wasn't like

347
00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:28.720
<v Speaker 2>a big deal.

348
00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I would you be offended by it if somebody forgot

349
00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:35.839
<v Speaker 1>shooting a scene with you?

350
00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:38.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean if it wasn't somebody like it was

351
00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:41.839
<v Speaker 2>somebody that I knew really well or like Hail, Like

352
00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:46.720
<v Speaker 2>numerous times I'd be like, yeah, exactly it happened, and

353
00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I'd be annoyed, like what's wrong with you?

354
00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:55.039
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if it just was somebody it films with once,

355
00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:58.119
<v Speaker 2>like whatever, sure it happens.

356
00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Uh, who were some of your fit? What year do

357
00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.519
<v Speaker 1>you remember what year you got into the industry. I

358
00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:07.799
<v Speaker 1>should have had that ready.

359
00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it was like around two year two thousand, Yeah,

360
00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:17.240
<v Speaker 2>when I got into like the website and I was

361
00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:21.000
<v Speaker 2>doing magazines. Maybe a little bit later, Yeah somewhere around there.

362
00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Were you doing collaboration stuff back then? Like would you

363
00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:27.400
<v Speaker 1>get other porn stars on your website or were you

364
00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:28.880
<v Speaker 1>mostly doing solo stuff?

365
00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I did. I did do a lot

366
00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:34.559
<v Speaker 2>of especially I lived in Oregon at the time, so

367
00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:38.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not like there's tons of people in Oregon to

368
00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:44.359
<v Speaker 2>film with. But yeah, like I filmed, I would say then.

369
00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I was more like amateur, So I filmed built like

370
00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of amateur people. Yeah, and that was a

371
00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:54.759
<v Speaker 2>really popular thing, like the amateur swingers, even though I

372
00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:57.599
<v Speaker 2>was never like a swinger because I was single, but

373
00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:03.599
<v Speaker 2>that was like such a popular at that time. Yeah,

374
00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.720
<v Speaker 2>so I took a lot of that, like with other amateurs.

375
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:11.839
<v Speaker 2>So you know, amateur people.

376
00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:19.559
<v Speaker 1>For sure, amateur people, yes, yeah, yeah, amateurs. So that

377
00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.759
<v Speaker 1>got you. Obviously you have your own website. Did you

378
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.640
<v Speaker 1>decide then or was it prior to that when you

379
00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>were like, I really want to start or did you

380
00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:31.160
<v Speaker 1>let me restart this whole question because I sound like

381
00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:35.440
<v Speaker 1>an asshole. Did you recognize back then that doing mainstream

382
00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:39.039
<v Speaker 1>stuff would bring more people to you and did that happen?

383
00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Like I talk to a lot of girls who say,

384
00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I really only shoot mainstream stuff so I can drive

385
00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:48.240
<v Speaker 1>people to my only fans or you were you the

386
00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:49.759
<v Speaker 1>same way back then, where you like, well, if I

387
00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.039
<v Speaker 1>shoot more mainstream scenes and I get my name out there,

388
00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:53.680
<v Speaker 1>they'll come to my website.

389
00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like at that time, excuse me, there was

390
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.759
<v Speaker 2>so much like traffic was super easy. It's not now

391
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.480
<v Speaker 2>with all these like tube sites, there was no free

392
00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:13.240
<v Speaker 2>porn to compete with, and like the thought was it's

393
00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:16.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of better, like just to do your own and

394
00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:22.680
<v Speaker 2>own your own content, you know then, because like say,

395
00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.920
<v Speaker 2>if you have like a million scenes on browsers on

396
00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>nat An America, which actually didn't even exist then, but

397
00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:31.720
<v Speaker 2>say you did, you have a ton of scenes like

398
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 2>out there. It's like people aren't going to pay to

399
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:37.640
<v Speaker 2>join your site because you already have so much stuff

400
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 2>on other people's sites, if that makes any sense. Yeah,

401
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Like back then, so it was the shot like don't

402
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:48.319
<v Speaker 2>it's better not to, But like now I feel like

403
00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:56.519
<v Speaker 2>it is helpful to do mainstream scenes. Sure, yeah, I

404
00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:58.599
<v Speaker 2>feel like it does help your only fans.

405
00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not crazy though, if I were to make the

406
00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 1>assumption that most girls, likely at a certain level of success,

407
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:08.759
<v Speaker 1>probably make more off of their only fans than their

408
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>mainstream shoots.

409
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably. Yeah.

410
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So let me talk about some of your interests

411
00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and what did you have things early on that you

412
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 1>just weren't willing to do that you eventually came around

413
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to on film like anything? Where did you start off

414
00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty slow and work? I interviewed Trinity Saint Clair one

415
00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>time and she said her first shoot was a gang bang,

416
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 1>And then I've talked to other go ahead, go ahead. Sorry,

417
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>oh I just said, oh wow, oh yeah, yeah. But

418
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>what that told her fans is, you know, I'm a goer.

419
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm always going to put effort into these scenes. But

420
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I can understand the inverse as well, where it's like, hey,

421
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>hold off on doing this, this and that because you

422
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.079
<v Speaker 1>want to build up to that. Was it like, was

423
00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>it like that back when you started in the industry?

424
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Not as much, like I don't know on the mainstream

425
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>side because I wasn't like that involved with that. I

426
00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 2>did start doing Boy Girl like pretty quickly, but I

427
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean even now, I've never done anal really, you know,

428
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 2>I've never done that. Yeah, I mean, it's just mostly

429
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it. That's really what it is.

430
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Are there others? Are there other things that within the

431
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 1>world of porn that are somewhat vanilla? Is there anything

432
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:42.599
<v Speaker 1>else that you haven't done that you're kind of like,

433
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously, if I'm in an office and I'm

434
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>bringing up anal, no one's gonna be like, that's very

435
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:50.119
<v Speaker 1>vanilla of you to discuss right now. But I mean,

436
00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:52.559
<v Speaker 1>like anal's kind of accepted in the porn Is there

437
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.279
<v Speaker 1>anything that is quote unquote accept it that you're maybe

438
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit like I still don't like shooting that

439
00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of shit.

440
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Mmmm, that's what I really not like doing. I feel

441
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 2>like my main thing is like, no anal, I hate

442
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>it when a guy gets like, actually one of those

443
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.480
<v Speaker 2>things the neighbor, that guy was like trying to like

444
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:21.000
<v Speaker 2>he was so rough, So I hate that, really, I

445
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>hate that.

446
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no roughness is at all or just I.

447
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Don't mind being intense. You know, there's a difference between

448
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.599
<v Speaker 2>being intense and getting into it and then just being

449
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>like kind of maybe not rough is the word, like

450
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 2>just kind of demeaning, like trying to de meet me,

451
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and like I hate that. Don't do that.

452
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you have never I don't know, I'm asking,

453
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>have you you've never been into like any of the

454
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.519
<v Speaker 1>even light humiliation stuff.

455
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I would. I don't think I would get

456
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:57.000
<v Speaker 2>so kissed off that I just would like walk off set.

457
00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I just it's not for me, and I don't like.

458
00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.839
<v Speaker 1>It totally get that. You know, everyone has Some girls

459
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed have so I always say I differentiate between

460
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>rough and violent, but you actually threw a new one

461
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>for me. They're intense. I guess you could go intense,

462
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>rough violent. Some girls I've talked to enjoy the violent stuff,

463
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'll just never understand that. I could always It's like,

464
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can mix punching and slapping

465
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>real real hard with sex. I just don't.

466
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wouldn't like that either. Yeah, I just rap

467
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>isn't the right word, like your right violent and meaning

468
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.599
<v Speaker 2>like that. I really don't like that.

469
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure is there? Have you shot a gang bang before?

470
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Or no? Oh my god, I just shot the lameless

471
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 2>gangbang ever? Because I don't do anal and so it

472
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>was like it was more of like a blow bang.

473
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>So I would maybe want to like try and do

474
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 2>it again, but like a better one. I like that.

475
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't even talk about it because it's not I

476
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 2>feel like it's not a good It wasn't a good scene.

477
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I see. Maybe I'm just a softy here. I never

478
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>require anal in a gang bang. What I'm looking for

479
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in a gang bang is for like a woman to

480
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:21.279
<v Speaker 1>be so overwhelmed with satisfaction that it's like she doesn't

481
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.640
<v Speaker 1>know how to handle or shit. Like I kind of

482
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>like watching a girl with her eye going a little

483
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:29.519
<v Speaker 1>crazy because she's come so many times during a scene.

484
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>So just one gang bang you've shot in your.

485
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Career, Yeah, just one?

486
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, well that's all right now, Will Is

487
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 1>that a horse you will jump back on at some point?

488
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, I just thought I'd like to do like

489
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 2>another one that's better because that one was I don't know,

490
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that was like a lame scene in my opinion.

491
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, we are going to take another break

492
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>real quick, and then we will come right back with

493
00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>one more game, and we're gonna wrap this up, ladies

494
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen. I have today the a superstar in the industry.

495
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 1>She's a fucking legend. Guys. She's been around setting up

496
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 1>the original Internet for all of us to go to

497
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 1>sexy karenxxx dot com or her only fans Karen Fisher.

498
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>My guest today, Karen Fisher. All right, we're back with

499
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>my guest today, Karen Fisher, legend in the industry, Sexy

500
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 1>karenxxx dot com or her only fans at Karen Fisher

501
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 1>links to everything in the episode description. We're gonna play

502
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>our next game. Our next game is cleverly called porn Words.

503
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Porn Words is a lot like the game Password, but

504
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 1>with porn stars and porn related category. So I'm gonna

505
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 1>give you a c or a bunch of clues for

506
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 1>the correct answer, and your job is to tell me

507
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>what the word is. Okay. You can pass at any

508
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>time and you'll have sixty nine seconds to answer ten

509
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>questions three, two, one go back door? Oh an, yep?

510
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>What you just shot? Or what you said you shot

511
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a ganggang? No, you didn't say you shot that? Would

512
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:37.359
<v Speaker 1>you shoot mouth? Oh?

513
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay? What is it?

514
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>No? No, no, no, no, a different type of thing you said.

515
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really shoot a gang bang. I shot a okay,

516
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.559
<v Speaker 1>three small tiny girls not children though.

517
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh winners.

518
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Now keep going a pass, okay, Uh, teach me how

519
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to do this?

520
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Hands off?

521
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no no, Uh nailed it? Okay, gulp swallow,

522
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>there you go this, but you're doing it to the guy?

523
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Got it? Okay, tied up? Ten seconds on the clock, bondage,

524
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>got it? Uh splat? Got it? Uh doesn't exist on

525
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a uh times up? Times up. I was gonna the

526
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>last two were that was really good. Actually, that was phenomenal.

527
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>The last one was fluffer. So I would have probably

528
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 1>said something along the lines of like, what isn't us

529
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:43.759
<v Speaker 1>apparently real? On a porn set anymore.

530
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like a million things. But yeah, I feel I

531
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>get it.

532
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>That's true. And then the last one would have just

533
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 1>been it was gangbang. So I'm gonna do two videos

534
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 1>competing against each other. I need a tiebreaker, So for

535
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>your tie break. According to the Internet Adult Film Database

536
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:08.559
<v Speaker 1>I a FD dot com as of this recording, how

537
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 1>many male performers has Karen Fisher worked with? Now, this

538
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 1>isn't gonna this isn't gonna include private shoes or anything.

539
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>It does include sexy Karen xxx dot com. Though, I'm

540
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>just gonna do who gets closest. No one's gonna nail

541
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>this exactly. So how many male performers on record do

542
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you think you've worked with throughout your career?

543
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm just gonna say, like ditsy.

544
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>One hundred and one is actually the answer. Don't go

545
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.079
<v Speaker 1>back and tell your nuns that one. Okay, folks, So

546
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 1>we talked about you. You you gave me an eye

547
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 1>there when I said fluffer a little bit. Has that

548
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>ever been a thing on a porn set? Not that

549
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I know, right. I interviewed Jim Powers, who was big

550
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>in like the nineties and early two thousands and stuff. Yeah,

551
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 1>love him. I think he's phenomenal. I thought he brought

552
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>some interesting stuff over to the US. But he said, like,

553
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 1>fluffers aren't real. Do you you've never seen that? Do

554
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you get annoyed if a guy asks or has to

555
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 1>be fluffed before a scene because some girls are just like, yeah,

556
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever gets the day going, blah blah blah, and some

557
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>girls are like, absolutely not, that's your fucking job, buddy.

558
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm a same player, so I don't mind helping to

559
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>a certain point, Like you know what I mean, I'm

560
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.519
<v Speaker 2>not gonna suck your dick to flup it for like

561
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes like that's but you know, like a little

562
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>sure or whatever. Yeah, so I am to a certain point.

563
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Sure. I mean, on set, you're all supposed to be professionals.

564
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:50.079
<v Speaker 1>So I get that, like, hey, look this guy's struggling,

565
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 1>let's help him along, blah blah blah. But at the

566
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 1>same time, I understand I kind of understand the other

567
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>side too. It's like, dude, you got one job to

568
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 1>get that dick hard.

569
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Awesome magician, you know what I'm saying, And I'm not

570
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna wear myself out like trying to get you hard. Yeah.

571
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 2>So it's a combination of those things.

572
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Sure, that makes sense. Do you have best friends in

573
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the industry?

574
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Close friends? Yeah?

575
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Now do you name any of them who's like,

576
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>who's like a trusted confidant in another performer? Maybe? Now,

577
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, behind the scenes it's like, oh, okay,

578
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>your accountant's good. That's nice.

579
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.679
<v Speaker 2>No, I would say like jaylen Rio and I have

580
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 2>pretty good friends Maggie Green, Sex, Steve Vanessa, Sarah j

581
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Alexis Golden. Those are probably like the closest. I used

582
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>to be pretty good friends with a Laura, but she's

583
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 2>not in the business anymore.

584
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay.

585
00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

586
00:34:57.719 --> 00:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you find it hard to shoot scenes if you'd

587
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 1>be better friends with someone or is it easier?

588
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's more more comfortable with them. See,

589
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I like sometimes I get nervous with new people, so

590
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 2>I am more comfortable. Oh my phone slow, I am. Yeah,

591
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>it's more comfortable, right if it's someone you know and

592
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:24.199
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable with.

593
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Sure, But then have you ever had someone where maybe not?

594
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not. I'm just thinking of my own personal life

595
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 1>where it got So has anyone been such a close

596
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 1>friend to you or maybe you keep the industry fans

597
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit separate than personal fans. Has anyone become

598
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>so close where it's just like like you burst out

599
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.679
<v Speaker 1>laughing halfway through a scene where you're like, oh my god,

600
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous. Thank you for eating my box right now.

601
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, uh I have to laugh because

602
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>last week we went to the club and you slipped

603
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>in whatever blah blah.

604
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Blah, like something not really during this sucks, you know,

605
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 2>but like if it's like I don't know though, if

606
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a scenario that I think it's funny, even if

607
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anybody, I'll laugh. So I don't think

608
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 2>it makes a big difference. For some reason, though with

609
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 2>guys that I'm friends with, I don't like working with

610
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 2>them as much.

611
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Really, okay, and what is that? What's that say?

612
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Have we become really good friends? I don't know, because

613
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't see them sexually, and I mean I can

614
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like obviously fake it, but it's and it's not like horrible.

615
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 2>It's just not like like I don't I feel like

616
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be very in a sexual mood.

617
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that.

618
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, that makes total sense. That's actually kind

619
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 1>of what I was. I was implying towards where Yeah,

620
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 1>it seems like if you if you did get too closest,

621
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>it may come off a little awkward or but I

622
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>guess it's always good to have a backup in case

623
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.079
<v Speaker 1>you got something big planned. You know, Hey, this might

624
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 1>be awkward, but I'm going to call Jeff and he'll

625
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>do the job.

626
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, but like for some reason, woman, it's

627
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>not like that, no way.

628
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh do you do you like women at all in

629
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>your personal life or is that just business?

630
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I do?

631
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>You know?

632
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Actually, like when I was younger, I actually was in

633
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:22.519
<v Speaker 2>like like a lesbian relation for a long time ago.

634
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like I mostly favor men. But yeah

635
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I do. Yeah, Okay, already.

636
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask what is coming down the pipe for you, Pike?

637
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.519
<v Speaker 1>However you say that term. Are we just going to

638
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>keep producing again high quality, great content? Do you have

639
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>anything special lined up where you're like, oh, this is interesting.

640
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Your mouth went open, so that means you got something

641
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>special lined up?

642
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not. It's already out. It's like a hot

643
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 2>scene with Rachel Kravali. It just came out like yesterday.

644
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm my only fans I have also lined up for

645
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 2>like not sweet. The following week, I'm filming with Brian

646
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Connor and Mazie and we have a really cool scenario

647
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 2>planned out. So I'm excited about God, but I'm always filming,

648
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.519
<v Speaker 2>like I have so much content. But I think those

649
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 2>are like two of them more exciting ones, at least

650
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>to me.

651
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I interviewed Rachel Covali a few months ago. She is

652
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.079
<v Speaker 1>such a sweetheart and she's so hot, but she's so

653
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 1>funny too that I can't imagine you two on the

654
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 1>same set. Must be hilarious because I like talking to

655
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you as well. You're You're very funny. How about Yeah?

656
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 1>I know, okay? Is I gonna say? Are there h

657
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of in a conundrum here, Like I've run through

658
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:50.639
<v Speaker 1>my list of questions. What is different from baton?

659
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>No?

660
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember a couple I had still What is different

661
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 1>today versus two thousand and two, two thousand and three

662
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>on like an actual set, like a mainstream shoot. Is

663
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it much more catered to the women nowadays? Which is

664
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a good thing personally, I would think if it was,

665
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 1>is it still like a burn and churn type operation?

666
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>What is being on a set then versus being on

667
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 1>a set now? Like?

668
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't filming. I would say it would be

669
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>just once in every once in a while that I

670
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 2>would film for mainstream. In two thousand and two, two

671
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, I started really filming a lot, maybe

672
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>like two thousand and eight, nine, ten, somewhere around them, Okay,

673
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 2>but I so between like eight nine and ten and

674
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>now I feel like the scenes that I've done for

675
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:42.679
<v Speaker 2>mainstream are so much faster and more like god like,

676
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:47.559
<v Speaker 2>which being on the Statbirds twelve hours is horrible and

677
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>you just kind of like lose any interest and actually

678
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 2>actually like fucking you know what I mean? So I

679
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>like that they kind of at least someone that I've

680
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>been in. It's not like I works for every time

681
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.119
<v Speaker 2>company recently, but the ones that I have to shop

682
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 2>for there it's more quick streamlines to the point. Oh yeah,

683
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>So I like that better.

684
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Sure are there anything?

685
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 2>They're pretty good? You know, you're still like excited to

686
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>be there, You're not like, can I go home already? Sure? Yeah?

687
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Are there any mainstream type websites that you haven't yet

688
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>shot for that you would like to or even see?

689
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 1>I always I always call a mid tier and that

690
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 1>seems insulting, but I always look at top tier at

691
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 1>things like Brassers and this and that, and then the

692
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>next step down is like sites maybe without recognizable names,

693
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 1>but that have interesting concepts or interesting niches, like it's

694
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>a pretty blunt name, but I do enjoy the website

695
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>gangbangcreampie dot com because yeah, because it's just it's a

696
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>girl and about five dudes, and then by the fifth guy,

697
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh man, it's really mucked up in there,

698
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.159
<v Speaker 1>but this guy's still going for it, you know who.

699
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Thank so I always I like those more like mid

700
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:09.519
<v Speaker 1>tier websites where it's still high quality. But are there

701
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>any of those that you would be interested in shooting

702
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>or maybe not?

703
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, to be honest with you, I don't.

704
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not that as active as I used to be,

705
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 2>like filming mainstream, So there's so many companies like I

706
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know, and I do kind of like more like

707
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean not to say that the mid tier wouldn't

708
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 2>be like this, but I like it that they take

709
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.559
<v Speaker 2>time to like have a makeup artist, like Brassways America.

710
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, they you know, they make you look good.

711
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>There's good lighting. It's not just like I don't know,

712
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a little Markle I am. I really

713
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 2>like that. I really like to film for Melthy that's

714
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 2>a new one that looks cool. I always liked to film,

715
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and I haven't filmed with them for a long time.

716
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Is Girlfriend's films. They're really cool. They always like working

717
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>for They always have like a really cool plot that's like.

718
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.159
<v Speaker 2>The sex scenes are pretty good usually because they let

719
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:16.480
<v Speaker 2>you go more naturally. It's not so like directed, like

720
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 2>they're not stopping every two minutes, you know what I mean.

721
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess you don't know what I mean because you've

722
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>never done on to.

723
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>But I can, I can, I will know. But I

724
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>do love a behind the scenes clip. So I've seen,

725
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I've seen. I get it. It's not it does not

726
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 1>look as fun as having normal sex with someone, if

727
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm being honest with you.

728
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I feel like with them it is like

729
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 2>pretty organic for the most part. Actually like live more

730
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 2>recent scenes I've done for Not America, we're more you know,

731
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:54.199
<v Speaker 2>go with the blow and that's always cool.

732
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the storyline aspect of it or do

733
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you do you like it more than Gonto's stuff.

734
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.519
<v Speaker 2>I like, I mean, so I think it's like too

735
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 2>long where it's it's taking like three four hours sometimes

736
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to do just the dialogue. Depending. Sometimes I'm into it

737
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>because i'd like the scripts. I kind of fancy myself

738
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 2>like a real actress. I play with the fantasy in

739
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:28.639
<v Speaker 2>my head, So yeah, I do. I do kind of

740
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>like having like a scenario and like some I don't know,

741
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of fun.

742
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I as a viewer, I don't necessarily need the scenario,

743
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>but as someone who likes to do media content type stuff,

744
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 1>I get why someone would want a little bit of

745
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>storyline to that for sure. Do you have to memorize

746
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the lines?

747
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 2>No? No, not usually they usually you usually just go

748
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>like line by line. They give me the scripts in advance,

749
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.119
<v Speaker 2>so I'll try and at least have like a rap

750
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>by idea. But I think one time I was in

751
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 2>a future where they did want you to like memorize it.

752
00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:14.039
<v Speaker 2>But usually you know, usually that you don't even have

753
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 2>it until you like get.

754
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 1>There and then okay, all right, all right, So they

755
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>don't give you a lot of time for you to

756
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 1>build a character in your own head. But you know,

757
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you understand you're playing a real letter today or a

758
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>mom with a step son who ye dad, Sure, Okay,

759
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, Yeah, Karen, you've been wonderful today. I really

760
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time. I know we've been fighting it this

761
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>whole time, but you really are a legend and an

762
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 1>innovator in this industry. And I don't know that you

763
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 1>get enough credit for it, but I'm hoping you do

764
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>going forward, because you know it's a good thing. You did,

765
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a good thing. You created something nice for the world.

766
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 1>You gave us you and we all appreciate that. Ladies

767
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen. My guest today Fisher. You can find her

768
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>at Sexy karenxxx dot com. I want you to go

769
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>there and sign up, do whatever you can, follow across

770
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>all social media, links to everything he's in the description,

771
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.599
<v Speaker 1>and please check out her only fans, OnlyFans at Karen Fisher.

772
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, Karen, which is more beneficial to you,

773
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Sexy karenxxx dot com or OnlyFans?

774
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like OnlyFans like Also like OnlyFans is a

775
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 2>lot more interactive than my website. Like my website does

776
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of content, like because I've had a

777
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 2>website for such a long time, like so much content,

778
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 2>but you can't message me. I don't do live shows,

779
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 2>but you can message me, we can sex. I continue

780
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>the voice notes whatever on OnlyFans, and then I also

781
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 2>do live shows like twice a month.

782
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at all of this that you get

783
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>for a simple only fan subscription. That sounds phenomenal. So

784
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>make sure you took her. Check her out, Karen Fisher.

785
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 1>I did have one last question before we wrap. Do

786
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you like working with younger or older performers? Do you prefer? Sorry,

787
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I never.

788
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Work with older Like I'm a mouse, so it would

789
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 2>be like so rare for me to work with somebody,

790
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 2>even my own age, it's almost always young people.

791
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.679
<v Speaker 1>How young do you have you ever had? And not

792
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>asking to identify anyone specifically, but have you ever had

793
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>someone where you were like cast with them and you're like,

794
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.679
<v Speaker 1>oh my is he eight? Is he an adult? How

795
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 1>does this work?

796
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.760
<v Speaker 2>No? No, I need some of them. They do look young,

797
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 2>but I never I guess I don't even want to

798
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>go there in my head that they like look like

799
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>a kid, because that's like, you know.

800
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, last question, and I meant to wrap this up,

801
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:03.679
<v Speaker 1>but these just popped in my head. And if I

802
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 1>have you on here, I have to ask have you

803
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 1>ever had any celebrities in your social media mailboxes, like, oh,

804
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I have have you ever had any athletes? I have?

805
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I feel like athletes are the main corporots.

806
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think athletes really like porn girls.

807
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the times porn girls are curvier

808
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 1>than the girl you'll meet at the local grocery store.

809
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 1>And maybe some of these athletes could use a curvier woman,

810
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 1>as they are most likely well endowed.

811
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe.

812
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean if I was Lebron James, I don't want

813
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>to have sex with a girl who's eighty five pounds.

814
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, I have big Lebron James energy, So I

815
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 1>need a girl, you know, who could take it.

816
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some of them girls can take it. But I

817
00:47:58.480 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 2>get what you're saying.

818
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm so shocked when some of these small girls are

819
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>doing things like double anal or and I'm just like,

820
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 1>how does that fit? How do you bend that way?

821
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Sarah J has like a scairy that like so figger

822
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 2>girls have like me on the inside, but like like

823
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>really skinny timy girls don't, so there's like more roote.

824
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's been like like scientifically proven, but

825
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 2>it's a fairy, so maybe there's something to it.

826
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, do your own research on that, folks

827
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 1>only fans at Karen Fisher and Sexy karenxsex dot com.

828
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Karen Fisher, thank you so much for coming on with men.

829
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you for having me