Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.
I'm your host, Matt. I've got a great show planning
for you tonight. You'll know my guest tonight from her
appearances on such websites as Momsbang Teens dot com and
MILP Psycho black dot com. You can find links to
all of our social media in the episode description, and
I want to recommend you check out her website, Sexy
Karen xxx dot com and her only fans at Karen Fisher.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: There you go. Ladies and gentlemen join me and welcoming
the curvacious. I don't like the term legend. Legend sounds
like old, but ye, you are kind of a legend
in this stet ladies and gentlemen, Karen.
Speaker 2: Fisher, than thank you.
Speaker 1: Hi, Karen. Could you take me through initially getting into
the industry? When did you decide, like, oh, whether it
was stripping or dancing camp, whatever it was, was there anything?
What was your first step into the adult entertainment industry?
Speaker 2: So my first step actually was just as like a dancer,
and I started like, I'm from Oregon, Oregon. You can
dance when you're eighteen, So it's almost as soon as
I was eighteen, I started working at a gentleman's club
in Oregon. Yeah, so that was my first step, and
I think, oh, sorry, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, no no, no, no, please please please go ahead.
Speaker 2: I think I like, obviously I knew what it was,
and it always kind of not always, but you know,
it was the idea for a long time had like
trigued me. And also I wanted to like be able
to move out of my parents' house and not have
to like you know, slave away at some minimum wage
job and then also go to school. So that's kind
of what like like drew me to stripping.
Speaker 1: So okay, let me ask you. Did you look uh
the way you do now? Back then? Were you as
a I don't what is the correct term busty? I
don't want to say like Karen is one of the
best busted chested women in all porn, uh, but what
is Were you as busty back then?
Speaker 2: No? I was busty, but I mean, I you know,
I had like more a totally different body type when
I was younger. I was really good, but I did
have you know, for my size, I had pretty good
sized boobs, but not you know, as big as now
did you.
Speaker 1: Obviously, dance always go through booms and busts. You know,
there's some nights when you pay your rent for the
next two months, or some nights when you end up
paying the house and you go home with nothing.
Speaker 2: Right, So where I worked, like it was a first
club to be on like the west side of town,
so it was pretty good. Like I didn't work every
single shift, so maybe like you know, Monday night, Tuesday
nights might have really sucks, but at that time, like
when I first started, it was really good. Yeah, and
then I think like it kind of died out. Sure, yeah,
you're right, But at first it was like the only
one on that side of town, so it was like
a huge deal. Yeah, so super so.
Speaker 1: You had like the only club on that side of
the town though you're a you know, eighteen year old girl.
That I mean, did you clean up right away or
did you really have to like learn the ropes first?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think I was just so like excited. This
is like what I've always thought about like new girls
is guys can kind of just like smell it on
you and you're excited and you're not like jaded and like,
but this you know, like you can get after doing
it for a long time. So I did really well, yeah,
like right off the bat. Actually, I feel like I
made more money when I first started, just because I
was so excited and like gung ho, you know to
be doing.
Speaker 1: That. Yeah. Yeah, so you said you thought about it beforehand?
Was that? I mean like like, like how young were
you thinking about When was the first time like you
knew this was a thing? I movie you Saul, Did
you see strip teas and think that?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, no, I wasn't a movie. I think it
just like maybe a girl that was like older than
me in school like was doing it and I heard
about it, and I just wondered, like what is that like?
And like the idea of also, you know, being a kid,
like not having like money to do with whatever you
want to do it, like that was intriguing as well. Sure,
And I think like my mom and I just didn't
get along when I was a teenager. I was super
rebellious one so I wanted to like move out, and
I felt like this was like and then two means
you know, but also I really liked doing things that
like I wasn't supposed to do, so I think that
was like part of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the next thing you got to do, though,
is become like a full time Christian and denounce porn,
and that'll be super rebellious of you, you know, reverse
turning around. I always hate I always I understand people
bad experiences, but I always hate when people come out
and disparage an entire industry, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, I mean I don't think there's like whatever
I do you find religion or what that is, what
it is, but like just to trash it, and yeah, trash.
Speaker 1: It for all people. Like you can trash your own experience.
You lived it. You know, you're more than welcomed if
someone treat it you wrong or whatever, You're more than
welcome to do that. But when someone comes out and Karen,
you should not be doing porn, let me explain to
you why it is so detrimental. You could be working
in an office eight hours a day, Why wouldn't you
want to just go do that and making one third
of what you mean? It's crazy to me, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I feel like different things in power, like
different people. Like when I was younger, I had jobs,
like God, I worked and worked at a daycare center.
I worked. What else did I do? I don't know,
but like to me, to me, that was like so
much worse, just you know, making very little money. I remember,
like god, maybe making two hundred dollars a week and
make grand that I was like part time, but it
was and it was just like gross, you know what
I mean. And I don't know, I had just hated it.
I hated it. I would to me, that is like
so much more like exploited. In my opinion, then that's
how I felt. Then I'm you know, stripping.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I you know, I think there's a lot
of guys listening to this right now coming to the
realization like, oh shit, I am being exploited. Like I'm
in there and I make X amount of money for
my company every day and I come home with this
percentage of that, a very very very tiny percentage of it.
Whereas with you if you go out and you dance,
or if you produce your own I mean, you have
gatekeepers obviously taking a little bit, but you can determine
how much money you want to make if you go
next week You're like I want to go on some
sick vacation. I need to bank up this much money.
You have the opportunity to go out and book those
scenes and do that. And that's what's so what I
find so cool about this industry is it's almost like
an English class Like it's not math in terms, and
it's not science. There's no hard answer to it. But
what's interesting is Karen Fisher can do anything she wants.
If you want to do like some weird punk rock
scene or your hairs and spikes and whatever. I understand
you don't, but if you did want to, someone would
buy it. Someone would definitely want to see that and
pay money. That's like, gotta feel so empowering to you
that people go like Karen Fisher and her body, Oh
my god, I will do anything for it.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Like do you ever get overwhelmed by that? Or have
you ever?
Speaker 2: I never think about it, like, to be honest, I
don't like think, oh, these and men like whatever. I
never think about that. But it's I mean, obviously I
know like some people like because they tell you, but
in general, it's not something I think about, but it is,
you know, it's much better to them, like having no
attention at all, like having nobody you know, nobody, I mean,
you know, to some degree. I do like attention, although
like if it's too much, I get overwhelmed. So it
is like cool, but it's not something I spent like
a ton of time like thinking about, because it's kind
of like a weird thing to think about, if you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even just when I put an episode
out and I get a call, Okay, great episode, really
like that question. It's such a like a great feeling
to me. But I can't imagine if every time I
clicked refresh, if I had like ten thousand mentioned like,
I don't know how I would handle that. So it's
funny you and I both hate office work and think
we're being exploited and everything else. But did you realize
how much work would go into twenty twenty four porn
in terms of social media? And maybe you have a
manager that's totally fair, but social media promotion over here,
reddit or whatever. Did you realize how much work actually
goes into this industry that most people look at and
be like, oh, that's easy stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people think it's easy. I mean it's not. It's work.
It's effort. It's not like it's rocket science or.
Speaker 1: You're not working in a coal mine, right, like exactly, No.
Speaker 2: I'm not so it's not like that, but it is
quite a bit of effort. Like every day I'm doing
something and you know, just about in your right, I
have kind of slocked on my social media, but now
I'm back on it and that is super help, the
to promote yourself and you know, connect with your fans
and a'mout what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so do you you still when when did
you stop dancing or do you still dance?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh no, I stopped like gosh, maybe when
I was like like twenty two or twenty three sounds
somewhere around then. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And was it just you banked up enough where you're
like I can make the next move or were you
just kind of like I'm done with this shit.
Speaker 2: I think I just didn't really like.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: I just wasn't like the lifestyle that I wanted to have,
Like I really didn't enjoy like, you know, a lot
of drinking, at least for me, especially because I was
at the age where people like to like drink a lot,
so I was probably I just realized, you know, I'm
drinking too much. I don't really want to like stay
out late and then also it was kind of so
maybe it was like twenty four twenty five when now
that I'm thinking about it, like when also there was
more options, like websites, like adult websites were just starting
and stuff like that. And also the club that I
worked at there was a lot of feature dancers like
magazine models and magazine models and like you know, important
to stars that would feature there. And so that really
like intrigued me. So I think I just wanted to
kind of like try something different. I was kind of
over a being like over the like working in a bar.
I just wanted to do something different.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. So then what was the next move?
Did you go online or did you start shooting scenes
or so?
Speaker 2: Like this girl that I was stround with, she had
started doing you know, magazines and movies, and she just
asked me, because I really didn't know how to go
about it, you know what I mean, and like it's
not like now where there's tons of agencies and everything.
She just asked me if I wanted her to send
my photos around, and I was like sure, And then
I think like a week or two later, Score magazine
blew me out, and then she started an adult website
and stopped working at the club, and so she introduced
me to her webmaster and I started my own website.
So I mostly did that, and then I tried, like
a few times to go to LA and like do more,
but it would be like, Okay, I'm paying for a ticket,
I'm paying for a hotel, I'm paying for rental car
because Ellie's like so big it's hard to get around
and there was no uber, so I was paying for
all that, and then I would go there and like
scenes would cancel and I would end up just like
breaking even, and so I just was like, this is
not you know, your time. Yeah, yeah, this isn't really
working out. So I just kind of focused on my
website for a long time because at that time there
were no other like not there were no other There
were very many adult sites online, so it was a
lot more lucrative than it is now for an adult site,
you know, just a website.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and that's so interesting. I always think back, is, uh,
let me ask you first, the person who you know
showed you all this, and is she famous? Is she
in the industries that or was she?
Speaker 2: Her name is Karina kurbs I don't think she's done
anything for a really long time, and I think she
just retired living in normal life now. She was quite
a bit older than me, and then I think she
had I don't know, she had some things going on,
so she kind of got out of the business.
Speaker 1: I always think about the early online pioneers in this
type of stuff like burninganngel dot com comes to mind,
things like Liz Vicious was a person who early on
when I was like in high school and I'm going
through the computer and find it. So you you really,
in a way, you were on that list of people
early on who understood that there is a desire for
individualized content. You essentially invented OnlyFans. You just didn't tell
anyone about it, which is pretty cool, huh. But yeah,
I mean, we'll talk about that. We're gonna take a
break in a second, but I want to come back
to your film career because you've worked with some real legends,
and I want to talk about your time just doing
different shoots and going back a while. Today, my guest
is Karen Fisher. She's a We're gonna by the end
of the episode figure out a term to use other
than legend because legend doesn't to me, it doesn't sound
She's a superstar in this industry and she has been
for a long time. Sexy karenxxx dot com and her
only fans go check it out at Karen Fisher links
to all social media and everything else is going to
be in the episode description, so make sure you check
that out and we'll be right back. All right, We're
back with my guest today, Karen Fisher, Sexy karenxxx dot
com or her only fans at Karen Fisher. Karen, I
have a game for you today, and I want to
test your own knowledge about one of my favorite porn
stars of all time, Karen Fisher. We're gonna play a
game called I said, what do you like.
Speaker 2: It when you're any girls talk fantasy to you? I said,
what kind of obsessed with? Course?
Speaker 1: Con?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: I said, what is a game where you, the world
famous portn star have to identify your own work?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I've got three audio clips for you, and your job
today is to identify which scene that audio clip comes from. Okay, okay, okay.
I will give you multiple choice, So when the clip plays,
if you think you know what it is, hold off.
Let me give you your choices, and we will see
how well you know your own content.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna play the first clip here for you.
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh man, now hi and get you clean up.
Speaker 1: My husband is come, Karen, what's that from a Cougar
season dot com? B my Friends Hot mom dot com
or C neighbor affair dot com?
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh, I have no I'm gonna guess see.
Speaker 1: I think on my BC you are correct it was
neighbor affair dot com. That's correct.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's do clip number two?
Speaker 2: Good boy not fucking calm in my mouth?
Speaker 1: And when I taste it, Karen, was that clip we
just played for you there? And I do wonder what
it tasted like? Uh? Was that from Seduced by a
Cougar dot com? Free use milf dot com or milfsoup
dot com?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna guess see.
Speaker 1: Sorry, the correct answer was B free use milf dot com.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that went okay, Yeah I was because sometimes
it takes me a second to like think of like
what movie was like anyways, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I couldn't. I wouldn't be able to pick
any of these out. So kudos to you for, you know,
even trying. I would just be like, I don't know,
I sound like a mess. There, let's do clip number three.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think you should just put it in. Yeah,
no one will.
Speaker 1: Ever know, Karen, is that clip from a cuckhunter dot com?
Be Lethalcougars dot com or C Mypervyfamily dot com?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, maybe see I'm just going with C.
Speaker 1: That's correct, That's correct My Prairie Family. So two for three, excellent,
excellent score. It's kind of interesting. You have shot so
many scenes now, have you ever run into anyone in
person and they've been like, oh, yeah, we had text
at one time and you were like, oh yeah, I
guess we did.
Speaker 2: Technically I have a pretty good memory. But happened like
once or twice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that awkward or is that kind of just
accepted in the like in real life, like not you know,
you know what I mean outside of.
Speaker 2: Lapped it off like it wasn't you know like what
this guy was like, he looks so familiar, like I've
seen you before, like met you before. He said, yeah,
we we like we films together. I was like, oh
my bad. So when we just flapped it wasn't like
a big deal.
Speaker 1: I would you be offended by it if somebody forgot
shooting a scene with you?
Speaker 2: No, I mean if it wasn't somebody like it was
somebody that I knew really well or like Hail, Like
numerous times I'd be like, yeah, exactly it happened, and
I'm like, yeah, I'd be annoyed, like what's wrong with you?
But yeah, if it just was somebody it films with once,
like whatever, sure it happens.
Speaker 1: Uh, who were some of your fit? What year do
you remember what year you got into the industry. I
should have had that ready.
Speaker 2: I feel like it was like around two year two thousand, Yeah,
when I got into like the website and I was
doing magazines. Maybe a little bit later, Yeah somewhere around there.
Speaker 1: Were you doing collaboration stuff back then? Like would you
get other porn stars on your website or were you
mostly doing solo stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I did. I did do a lot
of especially I lived in Oregon at the time, so
it's not like there's tons of people in Oregon to
film with. But yeah, like I filmed, I would say then.
I was more like amateur, So I filmed built like
a lot of amateur people. Yeah, and that was a
really popular thing, like the amateur swingers, even though I
was never like a swinger because I was single, but
that was like such a popular at that time. Yeah,
so I took a lot of that, like with other amateurs.
So you know, amateur people.
Speaker 1: For sure, amateur people, yes, yeah, yeah, amateurs. So that
got you. Obviously you have your own website. Did you
decide then or was it prior to that when you
were like, I really want to start or did you
let me restart this whole question because I sound like
an asshole. Did you recognize back then that doing mainstream
stuff would bring more people to you and did that happen?
Like I talk to a lot of girls who say,
I really only shoot mainstream stuff so I can drive
people to my only fans or you were you the
same way back then, where you like, well, if I
shoot more mainstream scenes and I get my name out there,
they'll come to my website.
Speaker 2: I feel like at that time, excuse me, there was
so much like traffic was super easy. It's not now
with all these like tube sites, there was no free
porn to compete with, and like the thought was it's
kind of better, like just to do your own and
own your own content, you know then, because like say,
if you have like a million scenes on browsers on
nat An America, which actually didn't even exist then, but
say you did, you have a ton of scenes like
out there. It's like people aren't going to pay to
join your site because you already have so much stuff
on other people's sites, if that makes any sense. Yeah,
Like back then, so it was the shot like don't
it's better not to, But like now I feel like
it is helpful to do mainstream scenes. Sure, yeah, I
feel like it does help your only fans.
Speaker 1: It's not crazy though, if I were to make the
assumption that most girls, likely at a certain level of success,
probably make more off of their only fans than their
mainstream shoots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let me talk about some of your interests
and what did you have things early on that you
just weren't willing to do that you eventually came around
to on film like anything? Where did you start off
pretty slow and work? I interviewed Trinity Saint Clair one
time and she said her first shoot was a gang bang,
And then I've talked to other go ahead, go ahead. Sorry,
oh I just said, oh wow, oh yeah, yeah. But
what that told her fans is, you know, I'm a goer.
I'm always going to put effort into these scenes. But
I can understand the inverse as well, where it's like, hey,
hold off on doing this, this and that because you
want to build up to that. Was it like, was
it like that back when you started in the industry?
Speaker 2: Not as much, like I don't know on the mainstream
side because I wasn't like that involved with that. I
did start doing Boy Girl like pretty quickly, but I
I mean even now, I've never done anal really, you know,
I've never done that. Yeah, I mean, it's just mostly
I don't like it. That's really what it is.
Speaker 1: Are there others? Are there other things that within the
world of porn that are somewhat vanilla? Is there anything
else that you haven't done that you're kind of like,
you know, obviously, if I'm in an office and I'm
bringing up anal, no one's gonna be like, that's very
vanilla of you to discuss right now. But I mean,
like anal's kind of accepted in the porn Is there
anything that is quote unquote accept it that you're maybe
a little bit like I still don't like shooting that
kind of shit.
Speaker 2: Mmmm, that's what I really not like doing. I feel
like my main thing is like, no anal, I hate
it when a guy gets like, actually one of those
things the neighbor, that guy was like trying to like
he was so rough, So I hate that, really, I
hate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no roughness is at all or just I.
Speaker 2: Don't mind being intense. You know, there's a difference between
being intense and getting into it and then just being
like kind of maybe not rough is the word, like
just kind of demeaning, like trying to de meet me,
and like I hate that. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you have never I don't know, I'm asking,
have you you've never been into like any of the
even light humiliation stuff.
Speaker 2: No, no, I would. I don't think I would get
so kissed off that I just would like walk off set.
I just it's not for me, and I don't like.
Speaker 1: It totally get that. You know, everyone has Some girls
I've interviewed have so I always say I differentiate between
rough and violent, but you actually threw a new one
for me. They're intense. I guess you could go intense,
rough violent. Some girls I've talked to enjoy the violent stuff,
and I'll just never understand that. I could always It's like,
I don't know how you can mix punching and slapping
real real hard with sex. I just don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't like that either. Yeah, I just rap
isn't the right word, like your right violent and meaning
like that. I really don't like that.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure is there? Have you shot a gang bang before?
Speaker 2: Or no? Oh my god, I just shot the lameless
gangbang ever? Because I don't do anal and so it
was like it was more of like a blow bang.
So I would maybe want to like try and do
it again, but like a better one. I like that.
I don't even talk about it because it's not I
feel like it's not a good It wasn't a good scene.
Speaker 1: I see. Maybe I'm just a softy here. I never
require anal in a gang bang. What I'm looking for
in a gang bang is for like a woman to
be so overwhelmed with satisfaction that it's like she doesn't
know how to handle or shit. Like I kind of
like watching a girl with her eye going a little
crazy because she's come so many times during a scene.
So just one gang bang you've shot in your.
Speaker 2: Career, Yeah, just one?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well that's all right now, Will Is
that a horse you will jump back on at some point?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I just thought I'd like to do like
another one that's better because that one was I don't know,
that was like a lame scene in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we are going to take another break
real quick, and then we will come right back with
one more game, and we're gonna wrap this up, ladies
and gentlemen. I have today the a superstar in the industry.
She's a fucking legend. Guys. She's been around setting up
the original Internet for all of us to go to
sexy karenxxx dot com or her only fans Karen Fisher.
My guest today, Karen Fisher. All right, we're back with
my guest today, Karen Fisher, legend in the industry, Sexy
karenxxx dot com or her only fans at Karen Fisher
links to everything in the episode description. We're gonna play
our next game. Our next game is cleverly called porn Words.
Porn Words is a lot like the game Password, but
with porn stars and porn related category. So I'm gonna
give you a c or a bunch of clues for
the correct answer, and your job is to tell me
what the word is. Okay. You can pass at any
time and you'll have sixty nine seconds to answer ten
questions three, two, one go back door? Oh an, yep?
What you just shot? Or what you said you shot
a ganggang? No, you didn't say you shot that? Would
you shoot mouth? Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay? What is it?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, a different type of thing you said.
I didn't really shoot a gang bang. I shot a okay,
three small tiny girls not children though.
Speaker 2: Uh winners.
Speaker 1: Now keep going a pass, okay, Uh, teach me how
to do this?
Speaker 2: Hands off?
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, Uh nailed it? Okay, gulp swallow,
there you go this, but you're doing it to the guy?
Got it? Okay, tied up? Ten seconds on the clock, bondage,
got it? Uh splat? Got it? Uh doesn't exist on
a uh times up? Times up. I was gonna the
last two were that was really good. Actually, that was phenomenal.
The last one was fluffer. So I would have probably
said something along the lines of like, what isn't us
apparently real? On a porn set anymore.
Speaker 2: It's like a million things. But yeah, I feel I
get it.
Speaker 1: That's true. And then the last one would have just
been it was gangbang. So I'm gonna do two videos
competing against each other. I need a tiebreaker, So for
your tie break. According to the Internet Adult Film Database
I a FD dot com as of this recording, how
many male performers has Karen Fisher worked with? Now, this
isn't gonna this isn't gonna include private shoes or anything.
It does include sexy Karen xxx dot com. Though, I'm
just gonna do who gets closest. No one's gonna nail
this exactly. So how many male performers on record do
you think you've worked with throughout your career?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just gonna say, like ditsy.
Speaker 1: One hundred and one is actually the answer. Don't go
back and tell your nuns that one. Okay, folks, So
we talked about you. You you gave me an eye
there when I said fluffer a little bit. Has that
ever been a thing on a porn set? Not that
I know, right. I interviewed Jim Powers, who was big
in like the nineties and early two thousands and stuff. Yeah,
love him. I think he's phenomenal. I thought he brought
some interesting stuff over to the US. But he said, like,
fluffers aren't real. Do you you've never seen that? Do
you get annoyed if a guy asks or has to
be fluffed before a scene because some girls are just like, yeah,
whatever gets the day going, blah blah blah, and some
girls are like, absolutely not, that's your fucking job, buddy.
Speaker 2: I'm a same player, so I don't mind helping to
a certain point, Like you know what I mean, I'm
not gonna suck your dick to flup it for like
thirty minutes like that's but you know, like a little
sure or whatever. Yeah, so I am to a certain point.
Speaker 1: Sure. I mean, on set, you're all supposed to be professionals.
So I get that, like, hey, look this guy's struggling,
let's help him along, blah blah blah. But at the
same time, I understand I kind of understand the other
side too. It's like, dude, you got one job to
get that dick hard.
Speaker 2: Awesome magician, you know what I'm saying, And I'm not
gonna wear myself out like trying to get you hard. Yeah.
So it's a combination of those things.
Speaker 1: Sure, that makes sense. Do you have best friends in
the industry?
Speaker 2: Close friends? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now do you name any of them who's like,
who's like a trusted confidant in another performer? Maybe? Now,
I don't you know, behind the scenes it's like, oh, okay,
your accountant's good. That's nice.
Speaker 2: No, I would say like jaylen Rio and I have
pretty good friends Maggie Green, Sex, Steve Vanessa, Sarah j
Alexis Golden. Those are probably like the closest. I used
to be pretty good friends with a Laura, but she's
not in the business anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Do you find it hard to shoot scenes if you'd
be better friends with someone or is it easier?
Speaker 2: I feel like it's more more comfortable with them. See,
I like sometimes I get nervous with new people, so
I am more comfortable. Oh my phone slow, I am. Yeah,
it's more comfortable, right if it's someone you know and
feel comfortable with.
Speaker 1: Sure, But then have you ever had someone where maybe not?
Maybe not. I'm just thinking of my own personal life
where it got So has anyone been such a close
friend to you or maybe you keep the industry fans
a little bit separate than personal fans. Has anyone become
so close where it's just like like you burst out
laughing halfway through a scene where you're like, oh my god,
this is ridiculous. Thank you for eating my box right now.
But uh, you know, uh I have to laugh because
last week we went to the club and you slipped
in whatever blah blah.
Speaker 2: Blah, like something not really during this sucks, you know,
but like if it's like I don't know though, if
it's a scenario that I think it's funny, even if
I don't know anybody, I'll laugh. So I don't think
it makes a big difference. For some reason, though with
guys that I'm friends with, I don't like working with
them as much.
Speaker 1: Really, okay, and what is that? What's that say?
Speaker 2: Have we become really good friends? I don't know, because
I don't see them sexually, and I mean I can
like obviously fake it, but it's and it's not like horrible.
It's just not like like I don't I feel like
I'm not going to be very in a sexual mood.
I don't know that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that makes total sense. That's actually kind
of what I was. I was implying towards where Yeah,
it seems like if you if you did get too closest,
it may come off a little awkward or but I
guess it's always good to have a backup in case
you got something big planned. You know, Hey, this might
be awkward, but I'm going to call Jeff and he'll
do the job.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, but like for some reason, woman, it's
not like that, no way.
Speaker 1: Uh do you do you like women at all in
your personal life or is that just business?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Actually, like when I was younger, I actually was in
like like a lesbian relation for a long time ago.
But I feel like I mostly favor men. But yeah
I do. Yeah, Okay, already.
Speaker 1: Let me ask what is coming down the pipe for you, Pike?
However you say that term. Are we just going to
keep producing again high quality, great content? Do you have
anything special lined up where you're like, oh, this is interesting.
Your mouth went open, so that means you got something
special lined up?
Speaker 2: Well, it's not. It's already out. It's like a hot
scene with Rachel Kravali. It just came out like yesterday.
I'm my only fans I have also lined up for
like not sweet. The following week, I'm filming with Brian
Connor and Mazie and we have a really cool scenario
planned out. So I'm excited about God, but I'm always filming,
like I have so much content. But I think those
are like two of them more exciting ones, at least
to me.
Speaker 1: I interviewed Rachel Covali a few months ago. She is
such a sweetheart and she's so hot, but she's so
funny too that I can't imagine you two on the
same set. Must be hilarious because I like talking to
you as well. You're You're very funny. How about Yeah?
I know, okay? Is I gonna say? Are there h
kind of in a conundrum here, Like I've run through
my list of questions. What is different from baton?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I remember a couple I had still What is different
today versus two thousand and two, two thousand and three
on like an actual set, like a mainstream shoot. Is
it much more catered to the women nowadays? Which is
a good thing personally, I would think if it was,
is it still like a burn and churn type operation?
What is being on a set then versus being on
a set now? Like?
Speaker 2: So I wasn't filming. I would say it would be
just once in every once in a while that I
would film for mainstream. In two thousand and two, two
thousand and three, I started really filming a lot, maybe
like two thousand and eight, nine, ten, somewhere around them, Okay,
but I so between like eight nine and ten and
now I feel like the scenes that I've done for
mainstream are so much faster and more like god like,
which being on the Statbirds twelve hours is horrible and
you just kind of like lose any interest and actually
actually like fucking you know what I mean? So I
like that they kind of at least someone that I've
been in. It's not like I works for every time
company recently, but the ones that I have to shop
for there it's more quick streamlines to the point. Oh yeah,
So I like that better.
Speaker 1: Sure are there anything?
Speaker 2: They're pretty good? You know, you're still like excited to
be there, You're not like, can I go home already? Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are there any mainstream type websites that you haven't yet
shot for that you would like to or even see?
I always I always call a mid tier and that
seems insulting, but I always look at top tier at
things like Brassers and this and that, and then the
next step down is like sites maybe without recognizable names,
but that have interesting concepts or interesting niches, like it's
a pretty blunt name, but I do enjoy the website
gangbangcreampie dot com because yeah, because it's just it's a
girl and about five dudes, and then by the fifth guy,
you're like, oh man, it's really mucked up in there,
but this guy's still going for it, you know who.
Thank so I always I like those more like mid
tier websites where it's still high quality. But are there
any of those that you would be interested in shooting
or maybe not?
Speaker 2: I don't know, to be honest with you, I don't.
I'm not that as active as I used to be,
like filming mainstream, So there's so many companies like I
don't know, and I do kind of like more like
I mean not to say that the mid tier wouldn't
be like this, but I like it that they take
time to like have a makeup artist, like Brassways America.
I'm like, they you know, they make you look good.
There's good lighting. It's not just like I don't know,
it's kind of a little Markle I am. I really
like that. I really like to film for Melthy that's
a new one that looks cool. I always liked to film,
and I haven't filmed with them for a long time.
Is Girlfriend's films. They're really cool. They always like working
for They always have like a really cool plot that's like.
The sex scenes are pretty good usually because they let
you go more naturally. It's not so like directed, like
they're not stopping every two minutes, you know what I mean.
I guess you don't know what I mean because you've
never done on to.
Speaker 1: But I can, I can, I will know. But I
do love a behind the scenes clip. So I've seen,
I've seen. I get it. It's not it does not
look as fun as having normal sex with someone, if
I'm being honest with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like with them it is like
pretty organic for the most part. Actually like live more
recent scenes I've done for Not America, we're more you know,
go with the blow and that's always cool.
Speaker 1: Do you like the storyline aspect of it or do
you do you like it more than Gonto's stuff.
Speaker 2: I like, I mean, so I think it's like too
long where it's it's taking like three four hours sometimes
to do just the dialogue. Depending. Sometimes I'm into it
because i'd like the scripts. I kind of fancy myself
like a real actress. I play with the fantasy in
my head, So yeah, I do. I do kind of
like having like a scenario and like some I don't know,
it's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: I as a viewer, I don't necessarily need the scenario,
but as someone who likes to do media content type stuff,
I get why someone would want a little bit of
storyline to that for sure. Do you have to memorize
the lines?
Speaker 2: No? No, not usually they usually you usually just go
like line by line. They give me the scripts in advance,
so I'll try and at least have like a rap
by idea. But I think one time I was in
a future where they did want you to like memorize it.
But usually you know, usually that you don't even have
it until you like get.
Speaker 1: There and then okay, all right, all right, So they
don't give you a lot of time for you to
build a character in your own head. But you know,
you understand you're playing a real letter today or a
mom with a step son who ye dad, Sure, Okay,
all right, Yeah, Karen, you've been wonderful today. I really
appreciate your time. I know we've been fighting it this
whole time, but you really are a legend and an
innovator in this industry. And I don't know that you
get enough credit for it, but I'm hoping you do
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I did have one last question before we wrap. Do
you like working with younger or older performers? Do you prefer? Sorry,
I never.
Speaker 2: Work with older Like I'm a mouse, so it would
be like so rare for me to work with somebody,
even my own age, it's almost always young people.
Speaker 1: How young do you have you ever had? And not
asking to identify anyone specifically, but have you ever had
someone where you were like cast with them and you're like,
oh my is he eight? Is he an adult? How
does this work?
Speaker 2: No? No, I need some of them. They do look young,
but I never I guess I don't even want to
go there in my head that they like look like
a kid, because that's like, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last question, and I meant to wrap this up,
but these just popped in my head. And if I
have you on here, I have to ask have you
ever had any celebrities in your social media mailboxes, like, oh,
I have have you ever had any athletes? I have?
Speaker 2: I feel like athletes are the main corporots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think athletes really like porn girls.
And a lot of the times porn girls are curvier
than the girl you'll meet at the local grocery store.
And maybe some of these athletes could use a curvier woman,
as they are most likely well endowed.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean if I was Lebron James, I don't want
to have sex with a girl who's eighty five pounds.
You know, I have big Lebron James energy, So I
need a girl, you know, who could take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them girls can take it. But I
get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm so shocked when some of these small girls are
doing things like double anal or and I'm just like,
how does that fit? How do you bend that way?
Speaker 2: Sarah J has like a scairy that like so figger
girls have like me on the inside, but like like
really skinny timy girls don't, so there's like more roote.
I don't think that's been like like scientifically proven, but
it's a fairy, so maybe there's something to it.
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Karen Fisher, thank you so much for coming on with men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for having me