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Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.

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I'm your host, Matt. I've got a great show planning

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for you tonight. You'll know my guest tonight from her

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appearances on such websites as Momsbang Teens dot com and

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MILP Psycho black dot com. You can find links to

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all of our social media in the episode description, and

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I want to recommend you check out her website, Sexy

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Karen xxx dot com and her only fans at Karen Fisher.

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Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: There you go. Ladies and gentlemen join me and welcoming

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the curvacious. I don't like the term legend. Legend sounds

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like old, but ye, you are kind of a legend

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in this stet ladies and gentlemen, Karen.

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Speaker 2: Fisher, than thank you.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Karen. Could you take me through initially getting into

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the industry? When did you decide, like, oh, whether it

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was stripping or dancing camp, whatever it was, was there anything?

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What was your first step into the adult entertainment industry?

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Speaker 2: So my first step actually was just as like a dancer,

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and I started like, I'm from Oregon, Oregon. You can

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dance when you're eighteen, So it's almost as soon as

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I was eighteen, I started working at a gentleman's club

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in Oregon. Yeah, so that was my first step, and

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I think, oh, sorry, go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead, no no, no, no, please please please go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I think I like, obviously I knew what it was,

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and it always kind of not always, but you know,

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it was the idea for a long time had like

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trigued me. And also I wanted to like be able

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to move out of my parents' house and not have

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to like you know, slave away at some minimum wage

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job and then also go to school. So that's kind

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of what like like drew me to stripping.

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Speaker 1: So okay, let me ask you. Did you look uh

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the way you do now? Back then? Were you as

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a I don't what is the correct term busty? I

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don't want to say like Karen is one of the

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best busted chested women in all porn, uh, but what

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is Were you as busty back then?

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Speaker 2: No? I was busty, but I mean, I you know,

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I had like more a totally different body type when

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I was younger. I was really good, but I did

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have you know, for my size, I had pretty good

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sized boobs, but not you know, as big as now

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did you.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, dance always go through booms and busts. You know,

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there's some nights when you pay your rent for the

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next two months, or some nights when you end up

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paying the house and you go home with nothing.

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Speaker 2: Right, So where I worked, like it was a first

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club to be on like the west side of town,

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so it was pretty good. Like I didn't work every

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single shift, so maybe like you know, Monday night, Tuesday

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nights might have really sucks, but at that time, like

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when I first started, it was really good. Yeah, and

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then I think like it kind of died out. Sure, yeah,

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you're right, But at first it was like the only

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one on that side of town, so it was like

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a huge deal. Yeah, so super so.

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Speaker 1: You had like the only club on that side of

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the town though you're a you know, eighteen year old girl.

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That I mean, did you clean up right away or

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did you really have to like learn the ropes first?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think I was just so like excited. This

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is like what I've always thought about like new girls

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is guys can kind of just like smell it on

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you and you're excited and you're not like jaded and like,

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but this you know, like you can get after doing

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it for a long time. So I did really well, yeah,

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like right off the bat. Actually, I feel like I

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made more money when I first started, just because I

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was so excited and like gung ho, you know to

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be doing.

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Speaker 1: That. Yeah. Yeah, so you said you thought about it beforehand?

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Was that? I mean like like, like how young were

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you thinking about When was the first time like you

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knew this was a thing? I movie you Saul, Did

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you see strip teas and think that?

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Speaker 2: No? Okay, no, I wasn't a movie. I think it

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just like maybe a girl that was like older than

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me in school like was doing it and I heard

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about it, and I just wondered, like what is that like?

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And like the idea of also, you know, being a kid,

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like not having like money to do with whatever you

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want to do it, like that was intriguing as well. Sure,

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get along when I was a teenager. I was super

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rebellious one so I wanted to like move out, and

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I felt like this was like and then two means

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you know, but also I really liked doing things that

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like I wasn't supposed to do, so I think that

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was like part of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the next thing you got to do, though,

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is become like a full time Christian and denounce porn,

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and that'll be super rebellious of you, you know, reverse

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turning around. I always hate I always I understand people

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bad experiences, but I always hate when people come out

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and disparage an entire industry, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, I mean I don't think there's like whatever

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I do you find religion or what that is, what

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it is, but like just to trash it, and yeah, trash.

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Speaker 1: It for all people. Like you can trash your own experience.

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You lived it. You know, you're more than welcomed if

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someone treat it you wrong or whatever, You're more than

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welcome to do that. But when someone comes out and Karen,

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you should not be doing porn, let me explain to

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you why it is so detrimental. You could be working

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in an office eight hours a day, Why wouldn't you

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want to just go do that and making one third

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of what you mean? It's crazy to me, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I feel like different things in power, like

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different people. Like when I was younger, I had jobs,

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like God, I worked and worked at a daycare center.

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I worked. What else did I do? I don't know,

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but like to me, to me, that was like so

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much worse, just you know, making very little money. I remember,

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like god, maybe making two hundred dollars a week and

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make grand that I was like part time, but it

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was and it was just like gross, you know what

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I mean. And I don't know, I had just hated it.

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I hated it. I would to me, that is like

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so much more like exploited. In my opinion, then that's

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how I felt. Then I'm you know, stripping.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I you know, I think there's a lot

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of guys listening to this right now coming to the

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realization like, oh shit, I am being exploited. Like I'm

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in there and I make X amount of money for

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my company every day and I come home with this

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percentage of that, a very very very tiny percentage of it.

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Whereas with you if you go out and you dance,

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or if you produce your own I mean, you have

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gatekeepers obviously taking a little bit, but you can determine

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how much money you want to make if you go

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next week You're like I want to go on some

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sick vacation. I need to bank up this much money.

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You have the opportunity to go out and book those

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scenes and do that. And that's what's so what I

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find so cool about this industry is it's almost like

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an English class Like it's not math in terms, and

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it's not science. There's no hard answer to it. But

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what's interesting is Karen Fisher can do anything she wants.

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If you want to do like some weird punk rock

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scene or your hairs and spikes and whatever. I understand

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you don't, but if you did want to, someone would

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buy it. Someone would definitely want to see that and

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pay money. That's like, gotta feel so empowering to you

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that people go like Karen Fisher and her body, Oh

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my god, I will do anything for it.

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Like do you ever get overwhelmed by that? Or have

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you ever?

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Speaker 2: I never think about it, like, to be honest, I

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don't like think, oh, these and men like whatever. I

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never think about that. But it's I mean, obviously I

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know like some people like because they tell you, but

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in general, it's not something I think about, but it is,

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you know, it's much better to them, like having no

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attention at all, like having nobody you know, nobody, I mean,

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you know, to some degree. I do like attention, although

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like if it's too much, I get overwhelmed. So it

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is like cool, but it's not something I spent like

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a ton of time like thinking about, because it's kind

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of like a weird thing to think about, if you

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know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even just when I put an episode

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out and I get a call, Okay, great episode, really

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like that question. It's such a like a great feeling

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to me. But I can't imagine if every time I

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clicked refresh, if I had like ten thousand mentioned like,

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I don't know how I would handle that. So it's

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funny you and I both hate office work and think

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we're being exploited and everything else. But did you realize

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how much work would go into twenty twenty four porn

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in terms of social media? And maybe you have a

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manager that's totally fair, but social media promotion over here,

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reddit or whatever. Did you realize how much work actually

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goes into this industry that most people look at and

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be like, oh, that's easy stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people think it's easy. I mean it's not. It's work.

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It's effort. It's not like it's rocket science or.

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Speaker 1: You're not working in a coal mine, right, like exactly, No.

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Speaker 2: I'm not so it's not like that, but it is

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quite a bit of effort. Like every day I'm doing

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something and you know, just about in your right, I

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have kind of slocked on my social media, but now

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I'm back on it and that is super help, the

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to promote yourself and you know, connect with your fans

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and a'mout what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so do you you still when when did

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you stop dancing or do you still dance?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh no, I stopped like gosh, maybe when

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I was like like twenty two or twenty three sounds

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somewhere around then. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And was it just you banked up enough where you're

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like I can make the next move or were you

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just kind of like I'm done with this shit.

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Speaker 2: I think I just didn't really like.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 2: I just wasn't like the lifestyle that I wanted to have,

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Like I really didn't enjoy like, you know, a lot

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of drinking, at least for me, especially because I was

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at the age where people like to like drink a lot,

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so I was probably I just realized, you know, I'm

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drinking too much. I don't really want to like stay

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out late and then also it was kind of so

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maybe it was like twenty four twenty five when now

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that I'm thinking about it, like when also there was

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more options, like websites, like adult websites were just starting

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and stuff like that. And also the club that I

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worked at there was a lot of feature dancers like

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magazine models and magazine models and like you know, important

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to stars that would feature there. And so that really

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like intrigued me. So I think I just wanted to

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kind of like try something different. I was kind of

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over a being like over the like working in a bar.

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I just wanted to do something different.

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Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. So then what was the next move?

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Did you go online or did you start shooting scenes

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or so?

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Speaker 2: Like this girl that I was stround with, she had

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started doing you know, magazines and movies, and she just

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asked me, because I really didn't know how to go

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about it, you know what I mean, and like it's

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not like now where there's tons of agencies and everything.

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She just asked me if I wanted her to send

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my photos around, and I was like sure, And then

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I think like a week or two later, Score magazine

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blew me out, and then she started an adult website

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and stopped working at the club, and so she introduced

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me to her webmaster and I started my own website.

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So I mostly did that, and then I tried, like

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a few times to go to LA and like do more,

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but it would be like, Okay, I'm paying for a ticket,

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I'm paying for a hotel, I'm paying for rental car

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because Ellie's like so big it's hard to get around

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and there was no uber, so I was paying for

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all that, and then I would go there and like

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scenes would cancel and I would end up just like

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breaking even, and so I just was like, this is

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not you know, your time. Yeah, yeah, this isn't really

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working out. So I just kind of focused on my

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website for a long time because at that time there

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were no other like not there were no other There

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were very many adult sites online, so it was a

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lot more lucrative than it is now for an adult site,

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you know, just a website.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and that's so interesting. I always think back, is, uh,

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let me ask you first, the person who you know

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showed you all this, and is she famous? Is she

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in the industries that or was she?

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Speaker 2: Her name is Karina kurbs I don't think she's done

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anything for a really long time, and I think she

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just retired living in normal life now. She was quite

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a bit older than me, and then I think she

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had I don't know, she had some things going on,

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so she kind of got out of the business.

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Speaker 1: I always think about the early online pioneers in this

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type of stuff like burninganngel dot com comes to mind,

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things like Liz Vicious was a person who early on

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when I was like in high school and I'm going

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through the computer and find it. So you you really,

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in a way, you were on that list of people

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early on who understood that there is a desire for

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individualized content. You essentially invented OnlyFans. You just didn't tell

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anyone about it, which is pretty cool, huh. But yeah,

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I mean, we'll talk about that. We're gonna take a

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break in a second, but I want to come back

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to your film career because you've worked with some real legends,

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and I want to talk about your time just doing

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different shoots and going back a while. Today, my guest

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is Karen Fisher. She's a We're gonna by the end

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of the episode figure out a term to use other

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than legend because legend doesn't to me, it doesn't sound

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She's a superstar in this industry and she has been

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for a long time. Sexy karenxxx dot com and her

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only fans go check it out at Karen Fisher links

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to all social media and everything else is going to

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be in the episode description, so make sure you check

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that out and we'll be right back. All right, We're

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back with my guest today, Karen Fisher, Sexy karenxxx dot

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com or her only fans at Karen Fisher. Karen, I

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have a game for you today, and I want to

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test your own knowledge about one of my favorite porn

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stars of all time, Karen Fisher. We're gonna play a

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game called I said, what do you like.

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Speaker 2: It when you're any girls talk fantasy to you? I said,

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what kind of obsessed with? Course?

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Speaker 1: Con?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: I said, what is a game where you, the world

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famous portn star have to identify your own work?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: I've got three audio clips for you, and your job

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today is to identify which scene that audio clip comes from. Okay, okay, okay.

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I will give you multiple choice, So when the clip plays,

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if you think you know what it is, hold off.

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Let me give you your choices, and we will see

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how well you know your own content.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna play the first clip here for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh oh man, now hi and get you clean up.

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Speaker 1: My husband is come, Karen, what's that from a Cougar

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season dot com? B my Friends Hot mom dot com

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or C neighbor affair dot com?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, oh, I have no I'm gonna guess see.

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Speaker 1: I think on my BC you are correct it was

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neighbor affair dot com. That's correct.

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Speaker 2: That's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's do clip number two?

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Speaker 2: Good boy not fucking calm in my mouth?

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Speaker 1: And when I taste it, Karen, was that clip we

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just played for you there? And I do wonder what

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it tasted like? Uh? Was that from Seduced by a

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Cougar dot com? Free use milf dot com or milfsoup

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dot com?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna guess see.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, the correct answer was B free use milf dot com.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that went okay, Yeah I was because sometimes

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it takes me a second to like think of like

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what movie was like anyways, So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I couldn't. I wouldn't be able to pick

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any of these out. So kudos to you for, you know,

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even trying. I would just be like, I don't know,

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I sound like a mess. There, let's do clip number three.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think you should just put it in. Yeah,

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no one will.

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Speaker 1: Ever know, Karen, is that clip from a cuckhunter dot com?

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Be Lethalcougars dot com or C Mypervyfamily dot com?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, maybe see I'm just going with C.

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Speaker 1: That's correct, That's correct My Prairie Family. So two for three, excellent,

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excellent score. It's kind of interesting. You have shot so

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many scenes now, have you ever run into anyone in

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person and they've been like, oh, yeah, we had text

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at one time and you were like, oh yeah, I

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guess we did.

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Speaker 2: Technically I have a pretty good memory. But happened like

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once or twice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that awkward or is that kind of just

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accepted in the like in real life, like not you know,

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you know what I mean outside of.

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Speaker 2: Lapped it off like it wasn't you know like what

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this guy was like, he looks so familiar, like I've

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seen you before, like met you before. He said, yeah,

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we we like we films together. I was like, oh

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my bad. So when we just flapped it wasn't like

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a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I would you be offended by it if somebody forgot

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shooting a scene with you?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean if it wasn't somebody like it was

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somebody that I knew really well or like Hail, Like

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numerous times I'd be like, yeah, exactly it happened, and

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I'm like, yeah, I'd be annoyed, like what's wrong with you?

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But yeah, if it just was somebody it films with once,

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like whatever, sure it happens.

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Speaker 1: Uh, who were some of your fit? What year do

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you remember what year you got into the industry. I

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should have had that ready.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it was like around two year two thousand, Yeah,

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when I got into like the website and I was

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doing magazines. Maybe a little bit later, Yeah somewhere around there.

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Speaker 1: Were you doing collaboration stuff back then? Like would you

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get other porn stars on your website or were you

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mostly doing solo stuff?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I did. I did do a lot

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of especially I lived in Oregon at the time, so

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it's not like there's tons of people in Oregon to

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film with. But yeah, like I filmed, I would say then.

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I was more like amateur, So I filmed built like

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a lot of amateur people. Yeah, and that was a

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really popular thing, like the amateur swingers, even though I

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was never like a swinger because I was single, but

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that was like such a popular at that time. Yeah,

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so I took a lot of that, like with other amateurs.

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So you know, amateur people.

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Speaker 1: For sure, amateur people, yes, yeah, yeah, amateurs. So that

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got you. Obviously you have your own website. Did you

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decide then or was it prior to that when you

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were like, I really want to start or did you

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let me restart this whole question because I sound like

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an asshole. Did you recognize back then that doing mainstream

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stuff would bring more people to you and did that happen?

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Like I talk to a lot of girls who say,

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I really only shoot mainstream stuff so I can drive

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people to my only fans or you were you the

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same way back then, where you like, well, if I

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shoot more mainstream scenes and I get my name out there,

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they'll come to my website.

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Speaker 2: I feel like at that time, excuse me, there was

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so much like traffic was super easy. It's not now

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with all these like tube sites, there was no free

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porn to compete with, and like the thought was it's

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kind of better, like just to do your own and

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own your own content, you know then, because like say,

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if you have like a million scenes on browsers on

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nat An America, which actually didn't even exist then, but

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say you did, you have a ton of scenes like

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out there. It's like people aren't going to pay to

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join your site because you already have so much stuff

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on other people's sites, if that makes any sense. Yeah,

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Like back then, so it was the shot like don't

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it's better not to, But like now I feel like

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it is helpful to do mainstream scenes. Sure, yeah, I

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feel like it does help your only fans.

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Speaker 1: It's not crazy though, if I were to make the

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assumption that most girls, likely at a certain level of success,

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probably make more off of their only fans than their

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mainstream shoots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So let me talk about some of your interests

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and what did you have things early on that you

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just weren't willing to do that you eventually came around

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to on film like anything? Where did you start off

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pretty slow and work? I interviewed Trinity Saint Clair one

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time and she said her first shoot was a gang bang,

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And then I've talked to other go ahead, go ahead. Sorry,

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oh I just said, oh wow, oh yeah, yeah. But

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what that told her fans is, you know, I'm a goer.

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I'm always going to put effort into these scenes. But

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I can understand the inverse as well, where it's like, hey,

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hold off on doing this, this and that because you

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want to build up to that. Was it like, was

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it like that back when you started in the industry?

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Speaker 2: Not as much, like I don't know on the mainstream

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side because I wasn't like that involved with that. I

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did start doing Boy Girl like pretty quickly, but I

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I mean even now, I've never done anal really, you know,

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I've never done that. Yeah, I mean, it's just mostly

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I don't like it. That's really what it is.

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Speaker 1: Are there others? Are there other things that within the

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world of porn that are somewhat vanilla? Is there anything

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else that you haven't done that you're kind of like,

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you know, obviously, if I'm in an office and I'm

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bringing up anal, no one's gonna be like, that's very

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vanilla of you to discuss right now. But I mean,

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like anal's kind of accepted in the porn Is there

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anything that is quote unquote accept it that you're maybe

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a little bit like I still don't like shooting that

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kind of shit.

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Speaker 2: Mmmm, that's what I really not like doing. I feel

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like my main thing is like, no anal, I hate

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it when a guy gets like, actually one of those

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things the neighbor, that guy was like trying to like

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he was so rough, So I hate that, really, I

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hate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no roughness is at all or just I.

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Speaker 2: Don't mind being intense. You know, there's a difference between

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being intense and getting into it and then just being

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like kind of maybe not rough is the word, like

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just kind of demeaning, like trying to de meet me,

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and like I hate that. Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you have never I don't know, I'm asking,

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have you you've never been into like any of the

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even light humiliation stuff.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I would. I don't think I would get

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so kissed off that I just would like walk off set.

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I just it's not for me, and I don't like.

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Speaker 1: It totally get that. You know, everyone has Some girls

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I've interviewed have so I always say I differentiate between

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rough and violent, but you actually threw a new one

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for me. They're intense. I guess you could go intense,

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rough violent. Some girls I've talked to enjoy the violent stuff,

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and I'll just never understand that. I could always It's like,

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I don't know how you can mix punching and slapping

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real real hard with sex. I just don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't like that either. Yeah, I just rap

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isn't the right word, like your right violent and meaning

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like that. I really don't like that.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure is there? Have you shot a gang bang before?

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Speaker 2: Or no? Oh my god, I just shot the lameless

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gangbang ever? Because I don't do anal and so it

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was like it was more of like a blow bang.

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So I would maybe want to like try and do

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it again, but like a better one. I like that.

475
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,680
I don't even talk about it because it's not I

476
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,039
feel like it's not a good It wasn't a good scene.

477
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,519
Speaker 1: I see. Maybe I'm just a softy here. I never

478
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,000
require anal in a gang bang. What I'm looking for

479
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,640
in a gang bang is for like a woman to

480
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:21,279
be so overwhelmed with satisfaction that it's like she doesn't

481
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,640
know how to handle or shit. Like I kind of

482
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,440
like watching a girl with her eye going a little

483
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,519
crazy because she's come so many times during a scene.

484
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:32,720
So just one gang bang you've shot in your.

485
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:34,599
Speaker 2: Career, Yeah, just one?

486
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,079
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well that's all right now, Will Is

487
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,039
that a horse you will jump back on at some point?

488
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I just thought I'd like to do like

489
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:47,759
another one that's better because that one was I don't know,

490
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,000
that was like a lame scene in my opinion.

491
00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:54,759
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we are going to take another break

492
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:57,160
real quick, and then we will come right back with

493
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,480
one more game, and we're gonna wrap this up, ladies

494
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:04,119
and gentlemen. I have today the a superstar in the industry.

495
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,119
She's a fucking legend. Guys. She's been around setting up

496
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,839
the original Internet for all of us to go to

497
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,799
sexy karenxxx dot com or her only fans Karen Fisher.

498
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:24,240
My guest today, Karen Fisher. All right, we're back with

499
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:28,000
my guest today, Karen Fisher, legend in the industry, Sexy

500
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:32,279
karenxxx dot com or her only fans at Karen Fisher

501
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:35,319
links to everything in the episode description. We're gonna play

502
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,720
our next game. Our next game is cleverly called porn Words.

503
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,000
Porn Words is a lot like the game Password, but

504
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,319
with porn stars and porn related category. So I'm gonna

505
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,839
give you a c or a bunch of clues for

506
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,799
the correct answer, and your job is to tell me

507
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,160
what the word is. Okay. You can pass at any

508
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,680
time and you'll have sixty nine seconds to answer ten

509
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:25,480
questions three, two, one go back door? Oh an, yep?

510
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,160
What you just shot? Or what you said you shot

511
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:32,880
a ganggang? No, you didn't say you shot that? Would

512
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,359
you shoot mouth? Oh?

513
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: Okay? What is it?

514
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, a different type of thing you said.

515
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,119
I didn't really shoot a gang bang. I shot a okay,

516
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,559
three small tiny girls not children though.

517
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: Uh winners.

518
00:30:56,079 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Now keep going a pass, okay, Uh, teach me how

519
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,480
to do this?

520
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: Hands off?

521
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, Uh nailed it? Okay, gulp swallow,

522
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,920
there you go this, but you're doing it to the guy?

523
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,160
Got it? Okay, tied up? Ten seconds on the clock, bondage,

524
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:28,480
got it? Uh splat? Got it? Uh doesn't exist on

525
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:31,160
a uh times up? Times up. I was gonna the

526
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,680
last two were that was really good. Actually, that was phenomenal.

527
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,960
The last one was fluffer. So I would have probably

528
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,599
said something along the lines of like, what isn't us

529
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,759
apparently real? On a porn set anymore.

530
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: It's like a million things. But yeah, I feel I

531
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,640
get it.

532
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: That's true. And then the last one would have just

533
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,839
been it was gangbang. So I'm gonna do two videos

534
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,839
competing against each other. I need a tiebreaker, So for

535
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:03,880
your tie break. According to the Internet Adult Film Database

536
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:08,559
I a FD dot com as of this recording, how

537
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,599
many male performers has Karen Fisher worked with? Now, this

538
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,039
isn't gonna this isn't gonna include private shoes or anything.

539
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,400
It does include sexy Karen xxx dot com. Though, I'm

540
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680
just gonna do who gets closest. No one's gonna nail

541
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,960
this exactly. So how many male performers on record do

542
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,759
you think you've worked with throughout your career?

543
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just gonna say, like ditsy.

544
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: One hundred and one is actually the answer. Don't go

545
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:45,079
back and tell your nuns that one. Okay, folks, So

546
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,079
we talked about you. You you gave me an eye

547
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:51,599
there when I said fluffer a little bit. Has that

548
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400
ever been a thing on a porn set? Not that

549
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,920
I know, right. I interviewed Jim Powers, who was big

550
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,640
in like the nineties and early two thousands and stuff. Yeah,

551
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,759
love him. I think he's phenomenal. I thought he brought

552
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:08,000
some interesting stuff over to the US. But he said, like,

553
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:13,599
fluffers aren't real. Do you you've never seen that? Do

554
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,680
you get annoyed if a guy asks or has to

555
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,839
be fluffed before a scene because some girls are just like, yeah,

556
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,880
whatever gets the day going, blah blah blah, and some

557
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,079
girls are like, absolutely not, that's your fucking job, buddy.

558
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:30,359
Speaker 2: I'm a same player, so I don't mind helping to

559
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,880
a certain point, Like you know what I mean, I'm

560
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,519
not gonna suck your dick to flup it for like

561
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,839
thirty minutes like that's but you know, like a little

562
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,000
sure or whatever. Yeah, so I am to a certain point.

563
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Sure. I mean, on set, you're all supposed to be professionals.

564
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,079
So I get that, like, hey, look this guy's struggling,

565
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,039
let's help him along, blah blah blah. But at the

566
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,839
same time, I understand I kind of understand the other

567
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,200
side too. It's like, dude, you got one job to

568
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:58,359
get that dick hard.

569
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: Awesome magician, you know what I'm saying, And I'm not

570
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,920
gonna wear myself out like trying to get you hard. Yeah.

571
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,400
So it's a combination of those things.

572
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: Sure, that makes sense. Do you have best friends in

573
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,119
the industry?

574
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,079
Speaker 2: Close friends? Yeah?

575
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:25,679
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now do you name any of them who's like,

576
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,920
who's like a trusted confidant in another performer? Maybe? Now,

577
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,000
I don't you know, behind the scenes it's like, oh, okay,

578
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:33,760
your accountant's good. That's nice.

579
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,679
Speaker 2: No, I would say like jaylen Rio and I have

580
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:45,079
pretty good friends Maggie Green, Sex, Steve Vanessa, Sarah j

581
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,760
Alexis Golden. Those are probably like the closest. I used

582
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,840
to be pretty good friends with a Laura, but she's

583
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,159
not in the business anymore.

584
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

585
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

586
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: Do you find it hard to shoot scenes if you'd

587
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,199
be better friends with someone or is it easier?

588
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: I feel like it's more more comfortable with them. See,

589
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,960
I like sometimes I get nervous with new people, so

590
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:20,199
I am more comfortable. Oh my phone slow, I am. Yeah,

591
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,239
it's more comfortable, right if it's someone you know and

592
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,199
feel comfortable with.

593
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,159
Speaker 1: Sure, But then have you ever had someone where maybe not?

594
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,360
Maybe not. I'm just thinking of my own personal life

595
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,599
where it got So has anyone been such a close

596
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,519
friend to you or maybe you keep the industry fans

597
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:38,880
a little bit separate than personal fans. Has anyone become

598
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,480
so close where it's just like like you burst out

599
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:43,679
laughing halfway through a scene where you're like, oh my god,

600
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,079
this is ridiculous. Thank you for eating my box right now.

601
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:50,400
But uh, you know, uh I have to laugh because

602
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:52,880
last week we went to the club and you slipped

603
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,239
in whatever blah blah.

604
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: Blah, like something not really during this sucks, you know,

605
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,280
but like if it's like I don't know though, if

606
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,079
it's a scenario that I think it's funny, even if

607
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,840
I don't know anybody, I'll laugh. So I don't think

608
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,039
it makes a big difference. For some reason, though with

609
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:13,639
guys that I'm friends with, I don't like working with

610
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:14,360
them as much.

611
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: Really, okay, and what is that? What's that say?

612
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:21,559
Speaker 2: Have we become really good friends? I don't know, because

613
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,880
I don't see them sexually, and I mean I can

614
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,840
like obviously fake it, but it's and it's not like horrible.

615
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,559
It's just not like like I don't I feel like

616
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:35,480
I'm not going to be very in a sexual mood.

617
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:36,119
I don't know that.

618
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that makes total sense. That's actually kind

619
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,159
of what I was. I was implying towards where Yeah,

620
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,119
it seems like if you if you did get too closest,

621
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,920
it may come off a little awkward or but I

622
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,880
guess it's always good to have a backup in case

623
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,079
you got something big planned. You know, Hey, this might

624
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,639
be awkward, but I'm going to call Jeff and he'll

625
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,400
do the job.

626
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,599
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, but like for some reason, woman, it's

627
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:04,400
not like that, no way.

628
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: Uh do you do you like women at all in

629
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,840
your personal life or is that just business?

630
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 2: I do?

631
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: You know?

632
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: Actually, like when I was younger, I actually was in

633
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,519
like like a lesbian relation for a long time ago.

634
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,360
But I feel like I mostly favor men. But yeah

635
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,000
I do. Yeah, Okay, already.

636
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,639
Speaker 1: Let me ask what is coming down the pipe for you, Pike?

637
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,519
However you say that term. Are we just going to

638
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:40,320
keep producing again high quality, great content? Do you have

639
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,480
anything special lined up where you're like, oh, this is interesting.

640
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,519
Your mouth went open, so that means you got something

641
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:46,400
special lined up?

642
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,159
Speaker 2: Well, it's not. It's already out. It's like a hot

643
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:54,280
scene with Rachel Kravali. It just came out like yesterday.

644
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,119
I'm my only fans I have also lined up for

645
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:02,599
like not sweet. The following week, I'm filming with Brian

646
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,880
Connor and Mazie and we have a really cool scenario

647
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:13,280
planned out. So I'm excited about God, but I'm always filming,

648
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,519
like I have so much content. But I think those

649
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:18,519
are like two of them more exciting ones, at least

650
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:18,920
to me.

651
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: I interviewed Rachel Covali a few months ago. She is

652
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:26,079
such a sweetheart and she's so hot, but she's so

653
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:29,599
funny too that I can't imagine you two on the

654
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,280
same set. Must be hilarious because I like talking to

655
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,840
you as well. You're You're very funny. How about Yeah?

656
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:43,079
I know, okay? Is I gonna say? Are there h

657
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:46,039
kind of in a conundrum here, Like I've run through

658
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:50,639
my list of questions. What is different from baton?

659
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: No?

660
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,679
Speaker 1: I remember a couple I had still What is different

661
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,639
today versus two thousand and two, two thousand and three

662
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,719
on like an actual set, like a mainstream shoot. Is

663
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,320
it much more catered to the women nowadays? Which is

664
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,360
a good thing personally, I would think if it was,

665
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,599
is it still like a burn and churn type operation?

666
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:11,320
What is being on a set then versus being on

667
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,159
a set now? Like?

668
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,519
Speaker 2: So I wasn't filming. I would say it would be

669
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:18,400
just once in every once in a while that I

670
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,559
would film for mainstream. In two thousand and two, two

671
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,199
thousand and three, I started really filming a lot, maybe

672
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,719
like two thousand and eight, nine, ten, somewhere around them, Okay,

673
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,639
but I so between like eight nine and ten and

674
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,440
now I feel like the scenes that I've done for

675
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:42,679
mainstream are so much faster and more like god like,

676
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,559
which being on the Statbirds twelve hours is horrible and

677
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,480
you just kind of like lose any interest and actually

678
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:53,199
actually like fucking you know what I mean? So I

679
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,599
like that they kind of at least someone that I've

680
00:39:56,639 --> 00:40:00,000
been in. It's not like I works for every time

681
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,119
company recently, but the ones that I have to shop

682
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:09,000
for there it's more quick streamlines to the point. Oh yeah,

683
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:10,320
So I like that better.

684
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: Sure are there anything?

685
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,079
Speaker 2: They're pretty good? You know, you're still like excited to

686
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,480
be there, You're not like, can I go home already? Sure? Yeah?

687
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: Are there any mainstream type websites that you haven't yet

688
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,320
shot for that you would like to or even see?

689
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,559
I always I always call a mid tier and that

690
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,039
seems insulting, but I always look at top tier at

691
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,519
things like Brassers and this and that, and then the

692
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:37,000
next step down is like sites maybe without recognizable names,

693
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,760
but that have interesting concepts or interesting niches, like it's

694
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,320
a pretty blunt name, but I do enjoy the website

695
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,239
gangbangcreampie dot com because yeah, because it's just it's a

696
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,760
girl and about five dudes, and then by the fifth guy,

697
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,719
you're like, oh man, it's really mucked up in there,

698
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,159
but this guy's still going for it, you know who.

699
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:06,280
Thank so I always I like those more like mid

700
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,519
tier websites where it's still high quality. But are there

701
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:11,320
any of those that you would be interested in shooting

702
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:11,920
or maybe not?

703
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, to be honest with you, I don't.

704
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,280
I'm not that as active as I used to be,

705
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,199
like filming mainstream, So there's so many companies like I

706
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,559
don't know, and I do kind of like more like

707
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,239
I mean not to say that the mid tier wouldn't

708
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,840
be like this, but I like it that they take

709
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,559
time to like have a makeup artist, like Brassways America.

710
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:41,599
I'm like, they you know, they make you look good.

711
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There's good lighting. It's not just like I don't know,

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it's kind of a little Markle I am. I really

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like that. I really like to film for Melthy that's

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a new one that looks cool. I always liked to film,

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and I haven't filmed with them for a long time.

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Is Girlfriend's films. They're really cool. They always like working

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for They always have like a really cool plot that's like.

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The sex scenes are pretty good usually because they let

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you go more naturally. It's not so like directed, like

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they're not stopping every two minutes, you know what I mean.

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I guess you don't know what I mean because you've

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never done on to.

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Speaker 1: But I can, I can, I will know. But I

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do love a behind the scenes clip. So I've seen,

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I've seen. I get it. It's not it does not

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look as fun as having normal sex with someone, if

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I'm being honest with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like with them it is like

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pretty organic for the most part. Actually like live more

730
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recent scenes I've done for Not America, we're more you know,

731
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go with the blow and that's always cool.

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Speaker 1: Do you like the storyline aspect of it or do

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you do you like it more than Gonto's stuff.

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Speaker 2: I like, I mean, so I think it's like too

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long where it's it's taking like three four hours sometimes

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to do just the dialogue. Depending. Sometimes I'm into it

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because i'd like the scripts. I kind of fancy myself

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like a real actress. I play with the fantasy in

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my head, So yeah, I do. I do kind of

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like having like a scenario and like some I don't know,

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it's kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: I as a viewer, I don't necessarily need the scenario,

743
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but as someone who likes to do media content type stuff,

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I get why someone would want a little bit of

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storyline to that for sure. Do you have to memorize

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the lines?

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Speaker 2: No? No, not usually they usually you usually just go

748
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like line by line. They give me the scripts in advance,

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so I'll try and at least have like a rap

750
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by idea. But I think one time I was in

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a future where they did want you to like memorize it.

752
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But usually you know, usually that you don't even have

753
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it until you like get.

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Speaker 1: There and then okay, all right, all right, So they

755
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don't give you a lot of time for you to

756
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build a character in your own head. But you know,

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you understand you're playing a real letter today or a

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mom with a step son who ye dad, Sure, Okay,

759
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all right, Yeah, Karen, you've been wonderful today. I really

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appreciate your time. I know we've been fighting it this

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whole time, but you really are a legend and an

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innovator in this industry. And I don't know that you

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get enough credit for it, but I'm hoping you do

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going forward, because you know it's a good thing. You did,

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a good thing. You created something nice for the world.

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You gave us you and we all appreciate that. Ladies

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and gentlemen. My guest today Fisher. You can find her

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but you can't message me. I don't do live shows,

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I did have one last question before we wrap. Do

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you like working with younger or older performers? Do you prefer? Sorry,

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I never.

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Speaker 2: Work with older Like I'm a mouse, so it would

789
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be like so rare for me to work with somebody,

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even my own age, it's almost always young people.

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Speaker 1: How young do you have you ever had? And not

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asking to identify anyone specifically, but have you ever had

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someone where you were like cast with them and you're like,

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oh my is he eight? Is he an adult? How

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does this work?

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Speaker 2: No? No, I need some of them. They do look young,

797
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but I never I guess I don't even want to

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go there in my head that they like look like

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a kid, because that's like, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last question, and I meant to wrap this up,

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but these just popped in my head. And if I

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have you on here, I have to ask have you

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ever had any celebrities in your social media mailboxes, like, oh,

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I have have you ever had any athletes? I have?

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Speaker 2: I feel like athletes are the main corporots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think athletes really like porn girls.

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And a lot of the times porn girls are curvier

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than the girl you'll meet at the local grocery store.

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And maybe some of these athletes could use a curvier woman,

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as they are most likely well endowed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah maybe.

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Speaker 1: I mean if I was Lebron James, I don't want

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to have sex with a girl who's eighty five pounds.

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You know, I have big Lebron James energy, So I

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need a girl, you know, who could take it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them girls can take it. But I

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get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm so shocked when some of these small girls are

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doing things like double anal or and I'm just like,

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how does that fit? How do you bend that way?

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Speaker 2: Sarah J has like a scairy that like so figger

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girls have like me on the inside, but like like

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really skinny timy girls don't, so there's like more roote.

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I don't think that's been like like scientifically proven, but

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it's a fairy, so maybe there's something to it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, do your own research on that, folks

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only fans at Karen Fisher and Sexy karenxsex dot com.

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Karen Fisher, thank you so much for coming on with men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for having me