Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to you an episode of the Challenge,
the podcast all about the Challenge.
Speaker 2: I think I called us the Challenge. It doesn't matter.
It's all stupid. The world is on fires. Who cares?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody? As usually I Brian sitting apparently probably in
his bedroom on his phone this time around, yay Internet
is not cooperating, sitting at work hoping his boss doesn't
show up like last week Zachie bananas, and then sitting
in Minnesota contemplating the merits of a wine bottle is Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, No, Arlen san Diego, you switched up the
order too. That threw me off.
Speaker 4: Yeah he did.
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: And maybe it's because we have a guest this week,
the winner of our fantasy league, also sitting in Minnesota.
Speaker 5: Garrett, feel fair to introduce yourself.
Speaker 6: Garrett, second place winner.
Speaker 3: Hey, you were the first place winner in everybody's heart,
because no one gives a shit a by win.
Speaker 7: I care.
Speaker 8: I feel bad couldn't be here, and you know, I
didn't put it together on the on the pre show.
But maybe the true winning, like the true prize, is
of a love connection.
Speaker 9: You guys are neighbors, You guys are both single.
Speaker 8: Now, I'm just saying, maybe, just just just just let
life give you a maybe.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, I just finished a relationship that was,
you know, twenty four hours away from me. I don't
need to get into one that an hour away from
me and Garrett, no offense, one that has a kid.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying.
Speaker 8: And I'm just saying, Garrett, We've talked about established.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 3: Sorry, all the hopes and dreams, now I'm not.
Speaker 4: So Carlin. How close do they have to be to
be in consideration? If an hour is too far.
Speaker 3: Like within the city that's not specific enough.
Speaker 8: Is Minneapolis a big enough city? Are there are there
parts of the city that are that are an hour away,
Like the.
Speaker 3: Far side of the far side of Saint Paul is
maybe forty five minutes from me.
Speaker 9: Okay, it's just not that.
Speaker 3: No, it's not like I can get to anywhere in
Minneapolis within like twenty minutes. I can get to anywhere
within the Twin Cities within forty five minutes of most Yeah, okay,
not during rush hour rush howur doesn't count.
Speaker 4: Sorry, good tim You would love an hour away, right,
that works for your schedule?
Speaker 2: No, Tim wants about four minutes.
Speaker 9: Listen, I'll find any excuse to make it not work.
Speaker 4: So I mean an hour could work if she's always
coming to you.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, I mean she should always be coming anyway.
Speaker 2: But he oh, Cindy lives an hour and fifteen away.
Speaker 9: So is that that's too that's too much for you?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 9: That's too much?
Speaker 2: Too much? Is then I see her too much or.
Speaker 9: Too long of a distance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not great. I would like a closer but yeah,
ye is what of this? I mean, it's not that bad.
Speaker 4: I used to regularly drive five hours each way, so
an hour would be nice.
Speaker 2: You're you're willing to go to other states, which is.
Speaker 9: Carlin went to another hemisphere.
Speaker 4: That's true, but.
Speaker 3: Again see this is normally pre show content. Congratulations listeners.
This is we've just continued to pree show.
Speaker 9: It's a short episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah probably, Uh yeah, I mean I did go to
another hemisphere, but I mean it was Australia, New Zealand.
Who the fuck is gonna say no to go to
Australia and New Zealand.
Speaker 2: Like Australia, everything tries to kill you there.
Speaker 3: Uh no, only in Queensland. Still there are no crocodiles
in South Australia.
Speaker 2: But there's giant spiders. There's hippos, there's all kinds.
Speaker 3: Of ship There are no hip hops.
Speaker 2: Guarantee you there's hippos. Carl, shut up, tell us about
this week's episode.
Speaker 9: There's absolutely hippos in Australia. There's no question about that.
Speaker 10: Okay, even if.
Speaker 9: It's like a zoo, it's okay. Still can all right?
This is episode four, guys. It's called a Ring around
the Rival.
Speaker 3: Really, that's the name of this episode.
Speaker 8: Yeah, low effort titles.
Speaker 9: I hate these titles. They used to be clever and fun. Bullshit. Uh,
good news, guys, were starting with the.
Speaker 8: Slow motion workout montage. Get that on the way first thing,
the very first.
Speaker 9: Thing we see people working on in slow motion it
is I guess i'd say, yeah, I don't like it.
I don't like these workouts.
Speaker 4: Get who is your favorite female challenger to watch workout?
Speaker 6: Female or male?
Speaker 4: You know whatever.
Speaker 9: I mean, correspond to watch.
Speaker 4: There's a couple. I mean, i'd got to.
Speaker 11: See athletes workout, but I don't know if he works
out not athlete at.
Speaker 6: The other Oh, the blonde one, Yes, I want to watch.
Speaker 8: She was the captain of the cheerleading team when Hillary played.
She had Hillary played cheerleading with her. Ashley Kilsey was
I think leading, we get Sam and Devon talking, and
this is sort of like an unlikely couple.
Speaker 9: I don't know why I didn't put.
Speaker 8: These two together as if they would like each other
and like hang out and stuff. But Devin pretty much
says like, Hey, everybody here kind of sucks except Sam's awesome.
Speaker 9: I really like Sam. I don't know, I didn't see
Devin and her connecting like this, what do you guys saying?
Because it's weird to you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised.
Speaker 2: This episode is kind of surprising. Sam's in the middle
of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: Yes, she is, literally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I I didn't expect Sam and Devin to
be as buddy buddy as they were, just because I
feel like Devon seems like the type of guy who
would look at Frank and be like, I don't want
to fuck with Frank, so I'm definitely not gonna fuck
with his partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So I think there's some players too that like I
think Casey is another one that everybody seems to really
love them.
Speaker 9: But on TV.
Speaker 8: They don't do anything for me at all. Like, I'm
sure Sam and Casey are both lovely people, but they're
super boring and they're confessionals. They don't seem all that
interesting like when they talk, but like everybody seems to
love him, So I don't know. I guess I just
I'll give him more credit as.
Speaker 4: I also think Devin probably loves Sam the finalist participant,
more than the person.
Speaker 8: In what way, because Devin stands up for people that
are getting pushed around.
Speaker 4: Kind of no that Devon would love to run a
final against Sam.
Speaker 8: Oh, I see what you're saying, all right, So he's
budding up to her just to keep her around.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he probably does have some genuine
like like for as a friend, but I'm sure you
know that extra thing thrown in he's like, Hey, Sam,
is gonna be my new best friend this season?
Speaker 9: Yeah? All right, it could be game inspired. I guess.
Speaker 8: All right, we get Ashley, Smashley talking to her boyfriend.
She's going nuts. I missed last week, But what's what's
the general consensus among this Ashley and among.
Speaker 3: Ashley a fucking moron? And dude, if I were dating
someone and they talked to me like that, even if
they were like it, if they if I was dating
someone and they talked to me like that, like are
you fucking kidding me? No, absolutely, we're not dating anymore.
This is insane. You cannot scream at me and then
tell me I don't give a fuck about you and
I don't give a fuck if you love me, and
like all of the no, no, that's that's not okay,
none of none of what she said was okay, none
of the.
Speaker 4: Don't use my credits. Don't use my credit card either.
Speaker 3: Yeah. On top of that, what the fuck was that?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 8: It ended with some amount of self reflection. I'm just like, hey,
I was angry. I took it out on you. Sorry
about that, which was I mean, it was nice to
ended on that note, but it was also.
Speaker 9: Like I agree, Carly. I'm like, come on, get to
get a hold of yourself. Earlier she's yeah, like it.
Speaker 3: No, it's We don't know how long the conversation went
on for. We don't know what he said to her,
but it just she smashly is smash laying like.
Speaker 8: She's everybody else in the house could hear it, you
know what I mean? Like it was just sort of
like that petty, sort of passive aggressive ship.
Speaker 4: Oh so we only really saw his face. We can
see the whole body. But my first thought when I
saw him was like, oh, so, like all of us
have a shot today, Ashley.
Speaker 3: I had that same thought. I also, and I realized
that it's because he has a very it sounds like
he has a very thick Latin accent. But when he
first got on the call, I.
Speaker 2: Thought he was mentally handicapped.
Speaker 3: That's I'm just trying to figure out a way to
say that. And yeah, yeah, absolutely did. I thought it
was her brother or something like that.
Speaker 2: So Garrett, Uh, Ashley is going to let you date her.
And you know she's won at least a million dollars
on this show, if not more.
Speaker 3: Facial reconstruction.
Speaker 2: Uh, you're gonna date her and let her talk to
you that way. She's uh, she's got all the money.
Speaker 6: No, I would not. I would leave right away if
she's not.
Speaker 9: Well, come on, but you can also like stick around
for a little bit.
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say, Like, I would not
think acid like my long term endgame. But I'm also
not kicking her out of bed.
Speaker 9: That's the thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because Garrett, like you've dealt with a crazy lady, right,
I assume your ex ex wife was a crazy person.
Speaker 2: This is public.
Speaker 9: Yeah, all x ys are crazy people. That's just what
it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's never the man's fault.
Speaker 3: Right right, No, you're definitely not the reason that she
is crazy.
Speaker 8: I feel like you could just like like tolerate it
for a minute, to like enjoy some of the parts
of the relationship, you know what I mean, part of
her Well, you know, you.
Speaker 9: Know what I'm saying, Zach.
Speaker 2: You know, Carl, don't be shaking your head. You were
talking about wine bottle sized dicks of the pre show. Hey,
head over to uh our Patreon and listen.
Speaker 3: I was. But that man also freely puts it on
the internet and gets paid for it.
Speaker 4: And actually all season has been freely putting it on
her confessionals.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Zach.
Speaker 9: And she does have an only fans as well.
Speaker 3: Oh does she really? I didn't know that. Yeah, she's
definitely heard. I just got that. The girl she better
plastic surgery. She really she deserves such better plastic surgery.
And it's so unfortunate because she really, like I hate
that I'm going to talk about her looks again, and
this is like a third week in a row, but
she legitimately looks like she has jowls, like she did not.
She did not have the things that are going down
on the sides of her face.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 8: They inject that filler ship to get rid of wrinkles,
but it just makes her face sag Then, yeah, gets
her face off fatty and saggy, and she's got.
Speaker 3: The cat She's got the catwoman face going. Yeah, she's
starting to starting to get it, and I tragic, It's
so unfortunate.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Uh, we get Katie and Adam talking. I like Katie
a lot. I hate Adam so much.
Speaker 3: I fast forwarded through this entire scene.
Speaker 8: This was hard to watch, and not because of Katie,
exclusively because of Adam. Yeah, Katie is trying to tell
him how to like do some stuffolitically, and Adams sort
of making a joke out of it, but like, just
just awful.
Speaker 9: I just just Adam's terrible guys, right, great.
Speaker 2: But partially because of Katie too, because in her confessionals,
she's like, well, Adam is so nice and everything, and
I'm like, is he because he's been a Dick the
whole time these last two seasons he's been on.
Speaker 3: I also had the thought and I fast forward, mainly
because of Katie, because I didn't even want to get
to Adam, because I, like, I watched thirty seconds him.
I was like, I don't I don't give it. I
don't care about Adam. But who the fuck is Katie
thinking that She's like, oh, let me give you a
tutorial on how to play the challenge when I fucking
suck at this game.
Speaker 9: It was weird.
Speaker 8: It seemed like a play on like the CT pro
tip thing, which we're useful and funny and whatever.
Speaker 3: This was like a because he's actually good at this game.
Speaker 8: But I think I think the perspective that Katie was
meeting to offer was like I can show him how
to do this politically, Like I know I don't have
to don't know how to do like the physical game,
but I can show him the politics.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing is like she was able to
do the politics like twenty years ago, she isn't able
to do politics since she came back.
Speaker 8: That was gonna be my point is that I'm not
sure she's great at politics anymore either.
Speaker 9: Like it's just I don't know. This is a weird conversation.
Speaker 3: Was she even good at the politics back then?
Speaker 4: People? Right? So?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think she was good for her friend.
Speaker 12: She was always a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's true. Garrett, what do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah? What's your thoughts on Adam and Katie?
Speaker 11: I used to like Adam and then he just gets
more annoying every episode and I just can't stand in
him anymore.
Speaker 4: But I Katie, I've.
Speaker 11: Never really liked her, but she is crazy, and I
don't know she's like you said, she's good at politics
or was so that might she thought you could help,
But I don't think either.
Speaker 6: I'm not a fan of either of them.
Speaker 3: So did you used to like Adam like back when
he was on the Challenge, like way back in the day,
or when he he first came back to All Stars.
Speaker 11: I think I just got more respect him just because
of who he is dating now, So he must be
a good guy. Yeah, he's the lucky man with Avery,
so I felt like, here's something good about him, But
every episode is just worse and worse.
Speaker 6: I just can't stand him.
Speaker 3: I feel like, like, well.
Speaker 4: Not to think so last season when Adam came back
I was so excited for him, and as it went along,
my opinion of him dropped when he especially when he
got Matt Steve. I came on this first episode this
season batching Adam, Zach. I hate to admit Adam's growing
on me again.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Zach.
Speaker 5: Dude, dude, Like, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: When when Adam first showed up on the back on
the Challenge, was it last season? When he was first
back on this first episode, I didn't understand why Tim
did not like him, and then then it all just
kind of fell off Cliff.
Speaker 4: I feel like, just him and what's his name, betting targeted,
Steve getting targeted together. I feel like that's kind of
forced Adam to drop the Steve hate and he's kind
of become like that plucky underdog and I'm like, yeah,
I just feel like it's so kicked them all out,
going to every elimination, just send everyone home one.
Speaker 9: It just feels like a show. I just don't like him.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, we're laughing at Chris's comment. Chris's comment is great,
Chris says, Zach worst Challenge competitor opinion since twenty eighteen,
I have been.
Speaker 4: Having horrible opinions since like two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little upset that I missed the
episode that you guys made him do that was highly entertaining.
Speaker 8: My proudest achievements. Anissa apologizes to Ashley. That's wonderful.
Speaker 13: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We didn't hear your opinion, Tim, I don't think, but
like somebody's feelings, like you should say sorry.
Speaker 9: I don't know about the the tears seemed like a
lot sure.
Speaker 12: So.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, So that's like I understood her apology last week,
like her immediate apology and then her then apology after
the fact, like a few minutes later to kind of
try to smoothing. I understood all of it last week.
Speaker 9: It's too much.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like it was necessary this week again, yeah.
Speaker 4: I think you're going back. Necessary in the sense that
they have to work as a team, so she needs
to whoever she can be able to community.
Speaker 9: Actually, you need this to move on, so here we go, like,
let's do it.
Speaker 3: I think I think it was that, and I think
it may have also been because everybody was drinking the
night before, because that's while I was watching the show.
I was like, I wonder if they were all hammered
the night before, and that's why she felt she needed
to redo it because maybe I actually didn't remember ye.
Speaker 9: One of the challenge. This, this is gonna push over
us how this game is played.
Speaker 11: They are all right, they're riding down some trust one
persons hanging and then the other teammate has to put
them to grab rings. And then there are souls like
gold rings that are extra points in case of a
tie that probably comes in hand you when they mentioned that.
And then the guy that grabs the second partner that
gets the things have to go on a balance, even
hook them on something on the edge of the moving truck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't realize there were gold rings. Apparently I
didn't pay attention very well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's gold rings that only came into effect
of a tie. Ye first double.
Speaker 8: And Leroy and Shane and Davon they're not playing against
each other, you know that they're just playing at the
same time. And I like these little confessionals, these like
really small ones when they sort of get in the players
heads and sort of figure out where the're at. And
Shane says that he wants to get some power just
because he wants to target the strong players. He's sick
of the game being like it is, which you know,
I think probably all of us are right that the
star holders got their star the very first episode and
there's been absolutely no shake ups now for episodes in.
Speaker 2: Did anybody else? Shane was on this season until this episode?
Speaker 4: M y our first interview friend of the podcast and
former alumni, Shane.
Speaker 9: Well, piece of trivia. Anybody's interested? Nobody is? Okay, there
you go.
Speaker 2: You'll need to know that Taks doing it.
Speaker 4: It was I really enjoyed.
Speaker 9: Leroy talks about being a dad, which I love.
Speaker 8: Uh, it's always like my my favorite part.
Speaker 9: Uh. Leroy and Devin start off right away like they're
crushing it.
Speaker 8: Shane and Davon take a minute to sort of find
their rhythm, and I think that's.
Speaker 9: True of most couples.
Speaker 8: They sort of take their take a minute to sort
of figure out how to do it exactly. And Davon
talks about being a mom, which I guess is another
cool thing, Like all these people are getting older and
aging and having babies and stuff. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Tim, did you know that Adam is also out?
Speaker 2: All? Right?
Speaker 8: Next up, we have Corey and big T. They're play
big and throw themselves in, try to get the star.
Big T as opposed to that. Of course she is.
And then yeah, actually it needs to do their thing.
Anything to say about these they yeah, but they these
two do seem like they've squashed their beat, but they
seem happy with each other.
Speaker 3: But big T does say begrudgingly that she's enjoying what
working with Corey, and then he says that he wants
to go in they do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they even had that beef of
a beef. I mean, obviously they did that season when
he betrayed them, but like, you know, I think, you know,
there's no hard sones going this. It's like, okay, like
you betrayed me in one season, we could get past it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of felt like they made up over
the over the off time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I might.
Speaker 8: Be coming around on Corey and liking him as a human,
but I don't think I'm gonna likeness player.
Speaker 4: I think I think he might have even apologized to them,
but to reunion that.
Speaker 9: He didn't watch last season, Like was it.
Speaker 4: This time?
Speaker 9: He fucking did it? He was able to do it.
That was good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm with you there.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh I totally forgot about that. Oh
that makes so much more sense as to why they
were doing that, like weird, Okay, the camera angles makes
a lot more sense now.
Speaker 4: What was was Corey has the challenge media, we all
want to together. There was a different Chicago.
Speaker 3: I don't like on the show he was not there before.
Speaker 9: Actually is doing well.
Speaker 4: With them because on the show it seems like a
decent human being.
Speaker 8: And it goes back to like this ongoing discussion about
Anissa just sort of like not giving a ship and
not playing very hard and not doing doing good at
these games. But actually has a point here, right, like
she should be a.
Speaker 13: Little annoyed on Anissa.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, she should. But at the same time,
there were a lot of people who were having problems
trying to push their partners out.
Speaker 2: Which this didn't seem like it was going to be
that hard of a challenge, Like I don't feel like
it would be hard. Like if me and Tim were
doing this challenge, I feel like I could either push
him out far enough to get a ring or you know,
grab a ring when it pushed me out. It doesn't
seem like it's that complicated.
Speaker 4: It's got to get to the bottom of them.
Speaker 3: So couldn't you like push.
Speaker 8: Them, stop them back.
Speaker 3: So they go pendulum swinging like no one seemed to
really be doing that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, or just slow them down a little bit, like
there's other things that you can sort of do.
Speaker 4: I think my problem with that is if they're swinging
back and forth and then like their swings don't line
up with the hoops, you're gonna have to try to
stop the mid swing to reposition their direction for the
next two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't need to like try to take them
to a complete stop. The other problem that people seem
to not quite understand was that the person waiting on
the plat coming back, because there were a lot of
people who just kept twisting their ropes up together because of.
Speaker 9: The person who was there on the way.
Speaker 8: But like the rules, like they said, the rules, he
can't do that.
Speaker 4: That was dumb.
Speaker 3: Like immediately immediately then we.
Speaker 8: Get Frank and Sam they're playing against Ashley and Dario.
Why is Frank the thrower here? Guys, what's the what's
the Yeah?
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 9: Yeah? He's doing it. He's doing it bad, all right,
That's what I.
Speaker 3: Was wondering not only is not only is Frank the thrower,
but Frank keeps spinning her in circle like very the
way that he's throwing her spins her like a top,
and then he yells at her spinning like a top.
I kind of thought, Garrett, you're gonna talk. What were
you gonna say?
Speaker 14: I was thinking the same thing about why I was
I think Frank was too afraid to hang, because he's
afraid to hide.
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, that's what I thought it was, Zach.
Speaker 4: I think also I can see them just having like
Frank having concerns, like he tries to do it, he can't,
like he's smaller than but does he think that Sam
has the upper body Franks.
Speaker 8: They didn't do him very well. They did the work,
you know, to this point, this is the worst of anybody.
They get four rings and then we get Melissa Nicole, Yeah,
and Turbo and Nanny. They do like in the middle
of the pack at him. They don't really even show
them do anything.
Speaker 9: Steven Adam.
Speaker 8: They really struggle. They do not do well here at all.
And Adam looks like an idiot. But but festiamber crush
it clearly. Yeah, that's an ambersary I think the only
the only downside is he just brushes her right into
the fucking stands.
Speaker 9: She can't avoid us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not only, not only he like throws her into
every single one.
Speaker 9: Of those columns and that's it.
Speaker 8: And then they have Katie and Veronica at the very
very end, as they're getting on onto the truck, Devin
tells them go shock the world, ladies, which I thought
was hilarious.
Speaker 9: And they got they got no rings. It's just nothing.
What do you guys think about Veronica's stands here?
Speaker 8: Like afterwards, after they do so poorly, Veronica basically says like, hey,
it doesn't really matter, Like we don't need to do well,
so who cares? But doesn't it Like it feels like
people are saying that a lot this this season, and
that drives me nuts.
Speaker 9: Is it driving you guys nuts too? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, it's driving me absolutely. Saying that there are
no penalties for losers, I hate it.
Speaker 2: Yep. That's my least favorite part of the challenge.
Speaker 3: When they do seasons like this, it's so fucking stupid.
Speaker 4: I don't mind as much just because I think I
watched so many other reality shows where throwing competitions is
a like a viable strategy. So to me, I'm like, well,
if you can carry yourself through the game on your
social strategic ability without winning stuff, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: But that's the problem is they're not carrying themselves through
social and strategicality. They are carrying themselves side. That's either
strategic or that's just I'm gonna sit over here and
try and last as long as I can. You just, yeah, yeah,
they are not the They're the lowest hanging fruit, but
they're not the lowest hanging fruit in that we need
to get rid of you low's hanging fruit. They're the
lowest hanging fruit in that we have other people we
need to get rid of first, and then you're the
first ones that we're coming for as soon as they're gone. Yeah,
I guess, I guess.
Speaker 4: I just think, like I see a lot of similarities,
like in terms of threat level between them and like
ash and Anissa. Well, that's the difference is they you know,
ash and Anissa were not connected enough despite we feel
like acshally has more friends there than either of those girls,
yet they manage to stay safe.
Speaker 3: I think Ashley and Anissa were a much bigger threat
because they make a shit ton of noise, like they're
willing to stir up the house politically, They're willing to
make the noise in the house, whereas Katie and Veronica
are just sitting in the background, like who to look
at us?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, But at the same time,
I also think, you know, history shows neither Katie of
Veronica is afraid of being loud when when needed. No,
we've seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, neither of these teams are gonna make it
to the end. Yeah, it's insane. But I've kind of
been saying to me that Katie and Veronica have lasted
this long.
Speaker 4: And I think I think once they hit the midway point,
they're pretty good because I think early on people don't
want to shake the boat. Once we hit the middle
part of the game, I think they look at people
like Sam and like Katie and Veronica and be like, Okay,
I want them in the final of me, So like,
let me start throwing in two big teams against each
other and like just carried these people the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still just it's amazing to me that they
have lasted as long as they have, Like, I realize
that we're only four weeks into this, but it's still
it's weird to me.
Speaker 4: But like the adventure, I feel like eventually it's gonna
make a change. I think, you know, we even saw
Beessi and Amber talking about this week being like, is
it the right time to make the move against strong
teams or do we just kind of lay back and wait,
you know, they're a week or two, maybe we might
get to a point where we just have all these
strong teams like fighting each other, and then it's like
we get like, you know, like a Leroy and Devin
in the end, with like Sam and Frank, Katie and
Veronica and whatever other Week team has left. It's like
one good team and then three week people they just
because all the strong eat each other at the end.
Speaker 15: Yeah, which.
Speaker 2: I love all this. And we get reminded by Sam
later at some point that the very first challenge, he's
the one who quit. She was already like, oh yeah,
I was totally ready to anchor him over the side
of the building, and he quit because he wouldn't do it.
Speaker 3: I think they could have actually done pretty well on
that challenge.
Speaker 2: Too, But then every one after that, Frank's like, oh,
but she didn't finish and it's like, bitch, you didn't
even go so fuck off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wouldn't even fry.
Speaker 4: And slight slight defensive Franks, you know, like Kim, Like
Kim and I seen on the same week with this talent.
Speaker 3: I got negative forty two points that week. Fuck everyone who.
Speaker 4: Quit, Tim and I are saying this everyone who quit.
Speaker 3: Because Tim Johnny Bananas quitting a final Fuck everybody.
Speaker 4: Who quit anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but so.
Speaker 4: H flank, Tim's was good point.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was just gonna say, like Tim, you and
I were saying, we didn't know if Sam would have
the the upper bobby strength to like push Frank and
this challenge. So if we think that might be an issue,
why do we think she'd have the provided strength to
support Frank's weight in the first challenge.
Speaker 2: She thought she did.
Speaker 3: Think I think she could have held him for that, like,
for at least the first one, because he didn't have
to lean out that far, and I think he could
have helped pull himself back. I do agree that the
ones that are farther down, she wouldn't have been able
to lift him back up. But yeah, because of how
many people quit that challenge, I think they could have
done relatively well by just getting that first one.
Speaker 4: I'm so thankful I forgot to put a team up
that week.
Speaker 3: God, negative forty two fucking points. I'm gonna be pissed
about that until the end of this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: I think I love the struggling with it. And I
also think, like, I think there's like fun assholes and
there's like bad annoying assholes. And I think he's a
fun asshole. I think in the past he was a
bad annoying one. But this season he seems like, you know,
we've seen some previous at the start of the season,
it looks like he's gonna have some freakouts on people,
and I'm like, but so far what we've seen, I
think it's gonna be like I'm gonna be team Frank
when those happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I he in the past he was a was
a bad asshole, like you don't want to deal with him, asshole.
I don't think we have seen enough of him since
coming back to decide whether he is a good asshole
or a bad asshole.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we don't, you know, compared to how we
treat Sam in his first season, he's treated her much better.
That's far. Oh a hundred yes, but you know, you know,
it's like we have feel like bananas in West and
Early Day Cet that were all assholes, and a lot
of us love them. I didn't notice that they looked
the same.
Speaker 3: They look they do have very similar looks. But and
this is definitely stereotyping. I was not actually all that surprised.
It's a common stereotype. The lesbian couples look very similar
to each other, and a lot of just yeah, it happens.
Maybe Ryan can speak to it a little bit more,
but it's not. I don't think it's that out of
the out of the realm. Tim a little bit harrier,
But yeah.
Speaker 2: You're surprised that a narcissist is dating someone who looks
like him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Now I'm probably the only one that thought
this when anyone else watched this scene and think like, yeah,
I'm pretty sure Frank's the bottom in this situation.
Speaker 14: I did not cross my mind. I am a Frank fan,
though I'm not gonna lie Frank fan. Yeah, this season,
for sure, I like him.
Speaker 3: I am enjoying him this season. I'm loving the fact
that he came in and had absolutely no qual with
telling us some confessionals like, I'm absolutely going to try
to manipulate the ship out of everybody to win.
Speaker 11: My favorite part about him right there is, Yeah, he's
just he's just cut it out right now, because it
sounds like it just feels like he's never gonna come back,
so he's just gonna cut throat the whole season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like he's been unapologetically himself.
Speaker 2: Yep, mm hmm, I don't know, sorry, Chris put in
the chat room, Hey data, same sex partner that looks
like you double your wardrobe fair enough?
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: I have no idea. That's some like type of electrotye
that's the thing like a mule like stimulate or something
like something to help relax his old muscles, reinvigorate him.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so over him and the fucking
old jokes. It's every multiple times every episode.
Speaker 4: I I can't figure out, and none of them are funny,
So I can't figure it out. If it's just because
I think he's put on weight since last all starts.
Remember seeing him laugh him thing and like, oh, like
he looks really good for his age like he still
looks young enough. I can spry and this he's the
next to him, and I'm like, you got old.
Speaker 3: What happens because he cut the beard off. It's because
he's been clean shaven, and the clean shaven look does
not work for him.
Speaker 4: I forgot he had a beard. I'll have to go
back and look at that.
Speaker 3: Shaven look does not work for him.
Speaker 4: Yes, he needs to bring the beard back. Then, for sure,
I miss old Steve. I loved the old Steve. This
new Steve. Yeah, I don't know what he is. He's
creepy old uncle.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I all love them.
Speaker 16: Yeah, good, good for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I was. I was happy to
see a hookup that was not heterosexual.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 2: And apparently they were so annoying that Frank had to
go sleep in a different room.
Speaker 3: I for some reason, had it in my head Sam
was in a relationship, but so did I. I don't
really know why. I mean, there's it's not like she's
introduced us to any person in her life. I just
had it in my head that she came in and
she was in a relationship. So maybe Zach.
Speaker 4: I don't remember. Like I kind of feel the same
way I feel like that she did, but she also
wouldn't be the first person coming with a relationship and hookups.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but most of the time, if someone comes
in and they're in a relationship and they hook up
with someone else, then it's not quite as blatant as
this was. This was there was no hiding this, There
was no attempt to hide this. There was no like, oh,
let's go to the bathroom.
Speaker 4: That's true. So maybe Sam's in a relationship postseason. Maybe
that's why we think I'm that.
Speaker 2: Ryan set. I'm surprised these shitty kid sized beds held
up through their shapely body scissory.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that, Granted, I kind of feel
like that. Yeah, I kind of feel like that every season,
regardless of who it is that's hooking up, because those
beds are not very big even they don't even look
like they're like full twin sized beds and having too
normal size, like full adults in those beds, Like, I
never understand how they make it.
Speaker 4: I'm just.
Speaker 12: Mhm.
Speaker 3: The motion of the ocean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm just sad Brown with him there to
bring him pizza was Marie Marie Marie too too brown
and Brittany. Yes, but.
Speaker 2: H you want a pizza me?
Speaker 4: Such a good line, He'll have the shirt.
Speaker 12: Us.
Speaker 3: So I have to say I don't disagree necessarily with
their with that advice. They just I mean, it's it.
It was obvious that they were gonna be going in anyway,
so why not try to play up on the like, Hey,
you guys don't have a star, maybe we can get
one for you.
Speaker 17: Mm hmmm, I mean true.
Speaker 3: I think pitching Devin and Leroy was a stupid idea.
They should have gone for Ashley and Dario because they
seem to be the least connected out of all of them.
But pitching Devin and Leroy was just dumb. No, and
I get that, but like, they're also some of the
most connected people in this house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's a good idea, sounds good
on paper. You're pitching to Fessi and Amber and Fessi
is stupid, so you should know better than to do this.
And I want to say this episode is maybe where
I'm starting to dislike the fact that we get the
same people back every season, because I feel like this
is where it comes into play where nobody wants to
do anything because oh I might piss somebody off that
I got to play against in like another season or
two from now, and they may hold a grudge. So
I don't want to do nothing. And let's pick somebody
that is easily going to be beat and that nobody
wants to make any moves whatsoever, and it's all they're
in the final. And this is where I get bored, right, Okay, yeah, yeah,
because I mean, like, Garrett, do you watch Survivor or
you a Survivor person?
Speaker 11: I do watch Survivor from here next Thursday Wednesday, all.
Speaker 2: Right, so four of us here watch Survivor and less
and unless it's like an all star season, Like the
best thing about that is if everybody gets a chance
to throw a pretty big person into elimination, you know,
or say their name at tribal or whatever, going to
take a shot at like a good person, everybody will
line up to do it. If it's like a good
chance in the here, like since everybody plays like season
after season, it's always just like, well, two seasons from now,
they may vote me into something, so I better not
even take a chance. And that gets real boring. M yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super frustrating in things like this, because the
other part of it is like they're they're not thinking
about the fact that, like, you guys are currently on
a rival season, maybe throw them in and then you
could potentially be on a rival season with a big player.
Speaker 10: Like yeah, yeah, yep, h.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but that's yeah, she threw Festi in,
but that's after FESSI was a real ass to her
for most of the season. So oh I know, but
but oh I know she was pissed at him for
no reason, just like he's pissed at her for no
like it just it. It was my point in saying
that it's more of effective like when he in his
confessional talk, well, I mean she blindsided me. It's profess
you were a dick to her most of the season. Like,
it's not blindsiding you, you were a dick. Yeah. Well,
on top of that, like Anissa, you've been on the
show for how fucking long, like you could say, of
all we've been through for most of the people that.
Speaker 6: Are on this show, this game is terrible. First of all.
Speaker 7: Eliminations I've ever seen, but one of the teammates stand
on top and spray a hole is like you're wandering
plants but you try to give in a bucket and
there's like live to see how they get it, and
it's terrible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I really enjoyed this elimination. I did. Oh,
I'm just say I feel like, you know, obviously we
love the classics, like all brawl involved in, but as
far as like the non classics go, I enjoy seeing
new things, and I felt like this was something we
hadn't seen before.
Speaker 3: I enjoy seeing new things too, and I enjoy seeing
Ashley be a fucking moron, but this was not an
enjoyable thing to watch. All they were doing was spring water.
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe I just like because I think I was like, man,
that looks like fun. I want to try doing that,
like I want to play that. No, it's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was stupid.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: She's like.
Speaker 2: She's like, well, these are dirty already, and I'm like, yeah,
you're gonna have water sprayed in your face? Will clean them.
Speaker 4: We saw, like right when she said I'm gonna take
off my goggles. We see Adam Adam advising sea a
vice Parsa being like, hey, occasionally spray them in the face.
It throws them off guard.
Speaker 3: Well, and that was the other thing is like they
didn't even have to spray Ashley in the face. Ashley
was just getting dripped on in the face and couldn't
deal with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Remember when she was like a mercenary and we were
just like, oh shit, she's a good competitor. I miss
those days.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, Tim, you asked if we should be if
we're on Anissa's side for being mad at Ashley. Yeah,
one hundred percent. That was a super fucking stupid move
to not put your goggles on. And after as much
shit as Ashley has talked about Anissa and Anissa not
working out and not trying and all that sort of thing,
Anissa has come back season after season after season after
season and has made it pretty far in quite a
few of them. So like, she has actively tried in
all of these seasons, and even though she may not
be at the same weight as everybody else, she may
not be at the same physicality as everybody else, Like
she actively tries. It's just a different kind of trying.
And Ashley is known for when she gets pissed off
and upset.
Speaker 18: She quits.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's no.
Speaker 2: No, no, that out with the plastic surgery.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was ever there.
Speaker 2: This scene also solidified that I now have figured out
the formula of the show this season.
Speaker 4: I think I did too.
Speaker 2: So at the end of every episode when they go
back to the house, whatever team is having a meltdown
or an issue or whatever, that's the team that's going home.
The next episode happened with Kelly, Ann and Sylvia got
in a huge fight, they went home. The next episode,
Ashley and Anissa get in a big fight. They go
home the next episode. So my guess is Sam and
Frank are not long for this world. They didn't have
a big blow up, but they focused on them talking
about the game and stuff at the.
Speaker 12: End of this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of how I was thinking about it too,
Like I actually I really liked the scene because it
felt like Frank is finally kind of realizing like, oh,
this is the part of Sam that like she's paying
attention to all of the other things that are happening.
She may not be great in the game, but she's
paying attention to what's happening in the house, what's happening
in the game, and like this can be our our
level up.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I saw the same thing as Welfy with this trend.
But my thought was we see in the next week
on Dario and Devin having a fight, and I was like,
all right, so one of those two teams is tried
on next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe yeah. Hey, everybody at every challengebot dot
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Speaker 18: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yah yah, Zach, are you walking around outside?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 2: Are you chewing on something?
Speaker 4: I love?
Speaker 3: A little bear?
Speaker 9: It?
Speaker 4: No, Cadberry eggs. I didn't know you could hear it.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Cadberry eggs.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of noise for a Cadberry egg.
Speaker 6: I've never had one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so these are the h So this isn't the
cream one, tim, This is a little the little mini
like hard candy ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Those are Oh they're my favorite. Those are my favorite desserts.
Speaker 2: You're you're wrong the cream eggs.
Speaker 5: There are where it's at exactly, Thanks guys.
Speaker 2: Thanks everybody. Zach, do you want to do some social
media stuff?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Only have one thing early this week, but it's
a big one. Jenna and Zach have unfollowed each other
on Instagram, and Jenna put up a picture the other
day saying like four signs of living with a narcissist.
Speaker 3: Oh, isn't she pregnant again?
Speaker 18: She is.
Speaker 4: She's pregnant with their fourth child currently, but there's a
lot of speculation in the challenge world that they might
be either on the way of divorce or at least
separated for now. Yeah. Yeah, Zach's cousin I think who's
the host unfollowed her. Jenna's also unfollowed their podcast page
as well.
Speaker 13: So.
Speaker 4: It's not looking good for Zach and Jenna. Jenn also
recently posted that she's started a new job as like
a Disney vacation planner, so you should have her plan
your trip.
Speaker 2: Don't fly there, h Garrett, Are you a Jenna or
Zach fan?
Speaker 11: I don't really know. I mean, Zach's kind of a dick,
but he was very good at challenges, which I like
that in a person. But and what's her name was?
She was the Beast a competition studetto was pretty good.
But I'd probably say yes to get them probably notice that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, they were nice one Kim Wolfe and
I met them in New Yorkville.
Speaker 2: Until they got until they got bored and wanted to
hide in the cast member only section to not come
back out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'd like to see that, Carlin, do you.
Speaker 2: Want to go over Fantasy League ghost? One of us
being me, apparently forgot to make a team last week,
so I did not do oh shit, really.
Speaker 3: All right, so we'll do the host league real quick.
So Host League surprise surprise. Guess who's in first place?
Speaker 4: Still?
Speaker 3: Zach is.
Speaker 4: That's what happens when you have Stephen Adam on your
team and they just keep winning everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how the fuck did you get that? Anyway, So
Zach has five hundred and fifty seven points. Wolfe is
in second place, almost one hundred points behind him, with
four fifty one week all right, I'm in fourth place
with four oh four, and Big Uncle Sweet Tea is
in fourth place with three point thirty two. And who
had who had a Nissa?
Speaker 4: I will say I lost Kelly An last week, which
I think is the earliest I've ever lost a player
since we started doing these, eh, I don't have a
full team for once.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to see who I don't know who
had a nissa?
Speaker 2: Was that you Wolfy, Nope, I only had Ashley. Uh
you had Anissa Carlyn. Oh nobody had as.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Anissa was the person. Anissa and Big
Ta were the two that weren't chosen. That's right, all right.
And then in the in the Public Fantasy League, Uh,
first place is still Keiki one more time with four
to seventy seven. Second place is the Needy Greedy with
four forty five, and third place is the Pussy Chickens
with four two. Our challenge host team is in fifth place.
So way to go us.
Speaker 4: I nailed it picking Sam for us this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, way to go yeah, because in this past week
we have Anissa, Katie, Sam and Shane.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah as our for both Anissa and Sam. Then
we got double yeah, which is.
Speaker 3: Good because.
Speaker 2: You know, pay extra for that.
Speaker 3: No kidding, mister Garrett are our fifth co host tonight.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 3: He is in ninth place. I have moved up to
eleventh place despite my fucking negative forty two from a
few weeks or forty three a few weeks ago. Zachie's
Angels is in ninth place or nineteenth place. Unfortunately, Wolfe
has dropped down to twenty third because he didn't pick
a team last week, and Big Uncle Sweet Tea is.
Speaker 2: In twenty eighth place.
Speaker 3: Dude, what is going on with your with your picks?
Speaker 6: He's saving his picks like last time.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean my dude, your your picks are
not great this season. Yeah, being that this season is
only like twelve episodes long, not the twenty two that
it normally is, you might want to pick that pace
up a little bit. Yeah. So we're you know, we're
word moving along, getting there. Um, we still haven't figured
out what the prize is going to be for whoever
wins first place? Is this season.
Speaker 4: Podcast on the next season, which I do want to
ask Tim. We have season forty one on the on
the ground filming right now. Do you believe it yet?
All right? Tim is in will we see it?
Speaker 2: There's there's a whole season of I Love Money that
never aired.
Speaker 4: That is true. Rest in peace to well, No, not
rest in peace of that guy. But I'm gonna see
the girl that died from it. But she wasn't on
it was the murderer was on it. Yeah, that's the
guy that did it. That's right, M.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's not going on out mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Okay, I did. I did see last week when I
was watching it on YouTube TV that they're like kept
playing up notices like are contracts expiring? Like please contact
YouTube TV and tell them to pick up hair amount again.
Speaker 2: Uh no, I can't. They settled. They settled it. It's
back up.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, that makes sense because I didn't get those
warnings last night, but yeah last week I did.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, they're not doing a very good job, not a
super great season to put back on a TV just
saying all right, Uh, does anybody else have anything else
they want to say if we wrap this episode up?
Speaker 6: Nope, I would like to thank you guys for letting
me make jo of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, we're gonna have the.
Speaker 4: What you're like, do you say eleventh place right now? Garrett?
I mean ninth You're right there. You can win again,
come back next season.
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess for this episode of Challenged,
this has been Brian.
Speaker 4: Carl in San Diego, Zach Bananas second Place. I think
Garrett has this new nickname, second Place Garret.
Speaker 11: From now on, I'll change my team name the second
Place Garrett.
Speaker 2: Nice. Uh And as Katie said, this is it, this
is what God gave me, chie