1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: And nine Cognition six five four three two one zero, 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,400 all engine running. 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for 4 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:27,920 Ignition with the AAW Fan podcast team. We've got a 5 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,960 lot to talk about tonight. We have the a W 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:38,759 World Send Fallout, and we've got aw Holiday Smash or 7 00:00:39,119 --> 00:00:44,039 New Year's Smash coming tomorrow night on aw Dynamite. This 8 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,640 is Kelson and. 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,079 Speaker 3: This is Yess. I am just breaking in here to 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,920 let you all know that if you are in a 11 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:53,520 Ring of Honor fan, Ring of Honor is ringing in 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,719 the new year with a live stream on YouTube. They 13 00:00:57,719 --> 00:01:01,520 will be playing all of their main events from twenty 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,519 twenty five, plus plus other matches from their other events 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,319 and pay per views, So that might be something if 16 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,079 you're interested in checking out Ring of Honor check that out. Yes, 17 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:16,480 speaking of pay per views, World's End last weekend, great show. 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,040 I've been saying that the show was booked for me, 19 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:23,159 and one of the reasons it was booked for me 20 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,719 is my personal favorite John Moxley. He won the Continental Classic. 21 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,239 It was awesome. What do you guys think, A. 22 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. Mosley is someone I don't think any 23 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,680 of us predicted. I'm very surprised. I don't I don't 24 00:01:43,239 --> 00:01:45,439 mind it at all. I'm not upset about it. I 25 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,120 just don't know if he needed it, Like I feel 26 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:52,519 like this was the time to elevate Tyle Fletcher. But 27 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:55,799 you know that's me. He was my pick from the beginning. 28 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:59,920 So I'm a little biased on that good match with Hoka. 29 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,640 The pay per view as a whole, I thought it 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:11,479 was good, which is a little weird to say about 31 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:14,479 an AW pay per view. It's just, yeah, that it 32 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,719 was just it was good. 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,439 Speaker 2: It was good. I mean, AW pay per views don't miss. 34 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:22,919 But when it comes to ranking, I put up a 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,439 post Chris and Jess up on the AW Fantom Summer 36 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:29,159 and in other places as well. A lot of the 37 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,360 nine pay per views, pretty much everybody except for one 38 00:02:33,439 --> 00:02:38,000 or two people put World's End in the bottom third, 39 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,080 like the bottom three pay per views. That's not to 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,800 say that these people were saying it was a bad 41 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,520 pay per view. It just wasn't. You know. 42 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: It's the difference between getting a you know, twenty two 43 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:57,400 ounce quarterhouse cooked perfectly, you know, with all the sides 44 00:02:57,439 --> 00:03:02,439 and trimmings, and get no, get they perfectly cooked Starloin 45 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,800 with basic side like nothing that the pay per viewing. 46 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,560 We've had so many pay per views with these memorable 47 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:16,919 moments and matches, and it feels like this one just 48 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,199 kind of had really good matches, really good moments, but 49 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:29,840 nothing that you know, really stood out as being. 50 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: Like the good. The best way I can explain it 51 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,439 to you, guys is like when Hagman Adam Paige defeated 52 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,400 John Moxley at all In. You you remember that John 53 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:41,759 Moxley lost to Adam Page at all In. You know, 54 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,360 six months later, six months from now, I'm not gonna 55 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,879 remember a single match from World's End. I personally, that's 56 00:03:48,919 --> 00:03:52,759 just me now, Jess, I know that I've seen you 57 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,919 post that you thought that this pay per view was 58 00:03:56,039 --> 00:03:57,840 booked just for you. 59 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:04,439 Speaker 3: Yep, it everything I liked. I mean, like, the only 60 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,080 way it could have been better if somehow Kenny Omega 61 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,039 could have been on the show, and uh if Coda 62 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,199 Ibushi magically healed and he was on there too, and 63 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,879 maybe if swerved and uh Hagman Paige kissed a little 64 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:25,240 uh oh god, d kidding. 65 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,879 Speaker 2: Oh my god, We're not going there? Are we kidding? 66 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: Or am I I'm kidding but no, it was other 67 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:36,399 than the absence of Kenny Omega. It was literally everything 68 00:04:36,439 --> 00:04:40,120 I like. So it's amazing how subjectivity works, isn't it. 69 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, But like I said, there's subjectivity, but it's not negativity, 70 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,160 you know what I mean. It's not like like Chris 71 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:50,279 and I said that it was a bad pay per view. 72 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:56,639 Speaker 1: No, no, not at all. It was We're spoiled with AWA. Honestly, 73 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:03,519 we have had so so many great PA previews, matches, amazing, memorable, 74 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,160 crazy stuff that it seems like a good pay per 75 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:15,920 view is slightly disappointing. Like not that I was. I 76 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,360 enjoyed it. I didn't feel like I wasted my money, 77 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:27,360 had fun with the show. Just of the what ten 78 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:33,519 pay per views this year, I want to say maybe, Okay, 79 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:36,120 I knew it was somewhere close to that. Of the 80 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,240 nine pay per views, I would say this was probably 81 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,079 my seventh or eighth. 82 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:43,439 Speaker 2: I need to break in here and I and I 83 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,360 apologize for making this. Jess, you've got a new headphone. 84 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:52,720 I understand that. Uh, either your microphone is in your 85 00:05:52,759 --> 00:05:58,160 mouth or whatever, because I could hear every breath that 86 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:03,079 you're taking. The sorry, i'll mute, well move the microphone 87 00:06:03,079 --> 00:06:05,240 away from your mouth. I did the same thing with 88 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:06,519 this microphone, and. 89 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,439 Speaker 3: People were telling though, like, this is a razor headset, 90 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:13,319 so there's no like adjustable mic. It's built into the ear, 91 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,920 so I can't really move it. 92 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well, not a big deal. 93 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:19,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I moved it back. Is that a little better? 94 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: So you got Yeah? So with with the you just 95 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:34,079 have to mute. I guess With the Continental Classic, I mean, 96 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,959 we had Kyle Fletcher against Max, when we had Okada 97 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,560 against Takeshta. I did like the storytelling with the screwdriver, 98 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,959 But what did you think of the qualifying matches? The well, 99 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,240 not the qualifying the semi final matches excellent. 100 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:57,399 Speaker 3: Can I talk about the screwdriver for a second. Sure, 101 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:03,639 I was brought this up on the Discord. The discord 102 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:05,759 is great, by the way, if you haven't joined joined, 103 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:11,519 we're great people. But I mentioned the wild dichotomy of 104 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,920 like the top people in the Callous family right now, 105 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:20,480 and as it pertains to this screwdriver because at first 106 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,759 I in the first match, I thought Callous hid the screwdriver, 107 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:27,279 but it turns out it was Kyle. Kyle hid the 108 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:31,759 screwdriver for himself to use. Okata found out about it 109 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:37,040 somehow he used it. So now there's this way the 110 00:07:37,079 --> 00:07:40,040 top three people in the Callous family are all mad 111 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:44,120 at each other, like Takeush does mad at Okata and 112 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:46,920 maybe mad at Kyle for bringing the screwdriver in the 113 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:51,000 first place, and Kyle's probably mad at Okada for stealing 114 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,120 his screwdriver. I can't wait to see how this plays out. 115 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you, Chris, what did you think about 116 00:07:58,399 --> 00:07:59,639 the semi final matches? 117 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: I enjoyed both matches. I probably enjoyed Ocata to catch 118 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:08,439 a little more because they went kind of kind of 119 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,439 a classic New Japan style almost, you know, kind of 120 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:16,240 the slow build and then it really ramped up and 121 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:21,680 then crazy finishers and encounters. And the screwdriver thing is 122 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,519 interesting because it, I mean, it gives to casta like 123 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Okay Okata couldn't actually be he had to use a 124 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:36,000 fricking screwdriver, like what a little bit. And then I 125 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,440 thought the Fletcher Maxley match was great, those who went 126 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:44,759 all out and again the screwdriver comes into play. But 127 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,320 like I said, that'll be really interesting, you know, to 128 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:52,879 see how that all kind of plays out. And Okada 129 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:56,120 and to Kestra probably aren't even on the show tomorrow 130 00:08:56,279 --> 00:09:00,559 night because of Wressell Kingdom. But if they are, that'll 131 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:06,799 be very interesting to see, you know, like does Kyle 132 00:09:06,919 --> 00:09:10,840 blame Okada like you screwed me over? 133 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:11,759 Speaker 2: You know? 134 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: Is to kestin mad because Kyle put the screwdriver out 135 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:22,159 there in the first place. Good matches, good story to 136 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,679 come out of both of them. Looking forward to see 137 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,279 what happens with the whole screwdriver Gake. 138 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: You know, one thing that I've got to say this 139 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,960 is that I thought it was a mistake for Tony 140 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:40,200 Kah to put Takesha Nakada up first. And the reason 141 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,200 why is because, as you said, Chris, it was a 142 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,039 new Japan style match. It was a slow burn, and 143 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,360 I don't really think that Takeshta and Okada really expressed 144 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,679 their distrust and or hatred to each other very well 145 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,320 in this match. I think it was for the most 146 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,759 part just a regular match until the end. I didn't 147 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:08,399 get the you know, the the turmoil that's going in 148 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:11,919 in don Kallis family through the It was not the 149 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:17,120 best in ring storytelling match as far as continuing that 150 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:21,399 story uh for me, and I thought it started out 151 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,440 really slow, and to be honest, with you. I lost 152 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,360 interest in the match probably until about halfway through the 153 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,919 batch because the matches started out so slow. I don't 154 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,440 think that that match was the right match to go with. 155 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,080 But then again, you kind of had to do that 156 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,360 because it played into the screwdriver thing, and the screwdriver 157 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,919 thing would not have worked unless you know that match 158 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,480 went first. So but I did think that that was 159 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:54,240 not the right match to go with first. Plus I 160 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,600 think it was the match in the semi finals of 161 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:02,279 people were really looking forward to the most. I don't know, 162 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,720 it was just something about that match. It was just 163 00:11:04,759 --> 00:11:07,480 a little off from the beginning. And maybe it was 164 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,799 because it was a New Japan style match and not 165 00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:15,279 an American match American style match, but it just didn't 166 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:15,799 work for me. 167 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: Brother, Yeah, and that's exactly why it did work for me, 168 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:22,480 because I mean, I love I love that New Japan style, 169 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:26,120 that kind of slow build and you know, feeling each 170 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,320 other out. I think the end is what really launches 171 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,080 the hatred between them. Like up to now, it's sure sure, 172 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,159 up to now it's been antagonistic and a little like 173 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,080 whatever you can do, I can do better, But there 174 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,360 hasn't been that moment where You're like, Okay, I hate you. 175 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:51,759 I want to be ever loving wrap out of you 176 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,799 the next time I see your stupid face. But now 177 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:01,279 with Okada using the screwdriver, you know, feeling, and then 178 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,519 he didn't even win, Like if you're a kicksty you 179 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,519 gotta be really pissed, like, Okay, you screwed me over, 180 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,120 you hit me in the head with the screwdriver, and 181 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:13,480 then you didn't even win. 182 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: You Yeah, I mean it was just weird because is 183 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:28,320 it just me? Or did John Moxley become a babyface organically? Yes? 184 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,799 Speaker 3: And Daniel Brian Daniel, Brian Danielson. 185 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:37,519 Speaker 2: Well, which one is it? Jazz? Come on? 186 00:12:40,039 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: Brian Danielson actually put it very well, like there is 187 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:52,480 no interference allowed in the Continental Classic. Cheating apparently is fine, 188 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:59,120 but uh, no interference allowed, and since interference is the 189 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:05,480 death writer's stick, basically, this tournament has let mox be 190 00:13:06,039 --> 00:13:09,679 mox again basically, and the crowd is warmed up and 191 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,720 come around to him. 192 00:13:10,919 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, look, I'm gonna say this a lot of look. 193 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:21,120 I run the aw fan Hub, Instagram, Blue sky X 194 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:27,600 account threads. I'm a moderator on the discord. I'm a 195 00:13:27,639 --> 00:13:31,200 moderator on the subreddit as well, and when it came 196 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:37,200 to the post Continental Classic or World's End I'm sorry, 197 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:43,240 World's End discussion. On all those platforms, more people were 198 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,679 talking about Orange Cassidy and Tony Storm dancing that they 199 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,320 were about the Continental Classic matches. I've said it before 200 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,360 and I'll say it again. Uh And I said this 201 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,440 last week. I believe that the C two Tournament should 202 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,759 have started at least one, probably two weeks earlier, because 203 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,759 we didn't know who the participants were in the C 204 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:16,759 two semi finals until Christmas Night, and that was a 205 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:23,360 night where aw AW Collision was Christmas Collision was on 206 00:14:23,679 --> 00:14:29,279 a different night, at a different time, on a holiday 207 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:35,080 where a lot of people didn't really watch professional wrestling 208 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,799 or much of anything else that night. You know what 209 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:43,240 I'm saying. I think that having that the semi final 210 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:49,320 set literally two days before the actual pay per view 211 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,120 kind of hurt the pay per view a little bit 212 00:14:53,039 --> 00:14:55,120 and the hype around it. I wish they would have 213 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,279 ended it at least a week earlier so that you 214 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:04,480 could had vignette or in ring promos just to raise 215 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:08,039 the angst, you know, raise raise the interest. I guess 216 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,559 that's the best way to p also, I mean, think 217 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,600 about it. They couldn't go out, like if John Moxley 218 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:20,519 was out there on you know, in Chicago doing a 219 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,320 press tour, you know, to hype up World's End on 220 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:30,559 Tuesday Night, he couldn't say anything about his participation in 221 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,559 the semi finals because that had not been determined yet, 222 00:15:34,639 --> 00:15:38,320 at least not on a national TV level. You understand 223 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,360 what I'm saying there. I mean it hurt. It hurt 224 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:46,759 not only the the the booking for the show, but 225 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,039 it also hurt the hype leading up to the show 226 00:15:49,039 --> 00:15:50,720 in different ways. 227 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand, Like I was actually really interested in 228 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:58,039 what was going on on that on that Christmas show, 229 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:01,039 and I would have watched it, but it was Christmas. 230 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I said it to record. I didn't 231 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:06,519 start it until probably an hour and a half and 232 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,320 uncause I was sot over at my brothers because he 233 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,919 demanded that I watched Daddy's Home too, because he swore 234 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,919 it was the Christmas movie and sadly bastards right, But yeah, 235 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,720 I mean I didn't even start so late. A week 236 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:21,919 earlier would have been perfect, Like. 237 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I mean it's Christmas. 238 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,399 People with families are probably getting you know, with the 239 00:16:28,519 --> 00:16:30,639 kids probably getting up at five to five am in 240 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:33,000 the morning because they were excited about opening their presence 241 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:35,559 from Santa. I know, I did it when I was 242 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,759 a kid. The parents are probably exhausted. I think a 243 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:41,200 lot of people were probably in bed by nine pm 244 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,840 Eastern time when Christmas collisions started. I'm just saying, I mean, 245 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:48,919 I don't think it was her shatteringly bad. Don't get 246 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:51,399 me wrong. I just think I'm just saying I would 247 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,679 have probably done it somewhat a different way. But let's 248 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,399 move on, because guess what else happened at world's end. 249 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:05,519 We have a new a W men's World champion. My scumbag, 250 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,960 my scumbag. He's our scumbag, he is everybody's scumbag. 251 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: He's the world scumbag. 252 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now he's gonna be appearing tomorrow night on Dynamite. 253 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:19,880 I just want to hear what you guys think is 254 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,279 gonna happen on Dynamite tomorrow night. And of course, also, 255 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:29,680 what do you think about MGF winning the world championship 256 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:31,759 at World Sad. 257 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:38,279 Speaker 3: I know exactly what's gonna happen. Gloating, gloating of epic proportions. 258 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,079 Speaker 2: I love. 259 00:17:43,519 --> 00:17:44,039 Speaker 1: I love it. 260 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: I as soon as he came back, I was rooting 261 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:51,559 for him. He is indeed my scumbag, and I wanted 262 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:54,000 him to win and he did. Like I said, this 263 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,680 show was booked for me, so I was quite happy 264 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,440 to see him win. 265 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, gloating is definitely gonna happen. I 266 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,759 will bet anyone twenty seven million dollars that we are reminded. 267 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:12,480 His name is Maxwell Jacob Freedman, and he is better 268 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:17,079 than us. And we know it, damn right, we did, 269 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:23,160 you know? I His return promo was great, you know, 270 00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:26,640 and the fact he did a squash match before, like 271 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,319 where he was the guy who would never wrestle and 272 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,960 now he's the guy who says he's gonna wrestle but 273 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:38,400 still spends eighty five percent of the match on the outside, 274 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:41,880 just waiting for his spot. And you know, he took 275 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,920 it brilliantly. The way he won the title was brilliant. 276 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:49,880 Him beating Joe at the pay per view where Joe 277 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:55,000 beat him. I mean, that's a full circle moment. I'm 278 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,599 excited to see the title run. I wasn't particularly happy 279 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:05,720 that hang Man lost so soon after winning the title. 280 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,079 But I see why they did it. I see why 281 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,240 they put it on Shoe. You know, you have this moment. 282 00:19:12,279 --> 00:19:14,400 Hang Man's going to be over as a baby face 283 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:18,640 no matter what he does, just because we've been on 284 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:24,240 this whole crazy journey with him for years and him 285 00:19:24,279 --> 00:19:27,799 being you know, him and Swerve can both say, hey, 286 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:32,400 we weren't pinned, we won our shot, and m JF, 287 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,039 being the scumbag he is, will probably be like, fight 288 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,640 for it and then we can get more out of that, 289 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,400 you know, the greatest rivalry in aw history. While MJF, 290 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,880 you know, fused with someone else and then we get 291 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,440 hang Man, then we get Swore. There's so many matches 292 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,160 for him to potentially have. I'm looking forward to the 293 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:56,839 run overall. 294 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,519 Speaker 3: You know what makes it even more for all you 295 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,279 need just one little note here, you know what makes 296 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:05,200 it even more full Circley, Do you know who else 297 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:10,720 was back kind of at World's end? Adam Cole? Baby? 298 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually missed it up a little bit when 299 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:17,440 I saw him on the screen. I'm not gonna lie 300 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:21,599 I did. I mean. I really like Adam Cole. He's 301 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,640 a great talker. Unfortunately, because of the injuries, we haven't 302 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,720 seen the extent of what he can do in the ring. 303 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,880 But I do think that they're and I do hope 304 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:38,079 that aw As plans for Adam Cole in twenty twenty 305 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,559 six if he's able to travel. If he's able to travel, 306 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,839 then I think we'll see a lot more of him. 307 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,400 If not, we may see a lot more of him 308 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,839 like we did at World's End. Remotely true. 309 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: Priority number one for me is Adam Cole's health. Priority 310 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:59,279 number two. Priority number two for me is a Brochacho reunion. 311 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,599 Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know if you caught this, 312 00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:08,960 but I think that MJF did a tribute to Adam 313 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:13,039 Cole during World's End because he was looking mighty yellow. 314 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,000 Well he also Sunrise, Yeah he did, but I'm just 315 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:20,880 saying he he looked like yellow bastard. He sure did. 316 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,799 But look, when it comes to what I expect for 317 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,759 tomorrow night, I put a little bit, well a little bit, 318 00:21:26,839 --> 00:21:32,400 far too much, far too much thought into this. Here's 319 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,039 what I want to see tomorrow night. I want to 320 00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:37,480 hear MGS music hit. I want to see him come 321 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:42,559 out carrying a Birdberry briefcase. I want to see it. 322 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,559 I want to see it, see him carrying a Birdy. 323 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:50,279 He has the belt stop straight on his shoulder, but 324 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,440 he's carrying a Birdbery briefcase. He gets in the rink 325 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,359 because when he won the championship at World's End, he 326 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,880 was like this. He basically said, this stuff is coming 327 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,920 off right away, you know, pointing to the straps and whatnot. 328 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:09,599 So I think in the briefcase, which is kind of 329 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,680 a tongue in cheek throwback to the Death Writers and 330 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:20,000 John Moxley's run with the aw Men's World Championship, he 331 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,960 brings the briefcase to the ring, the Burbery briefcase to 332 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:28,480 the ring. He throws the aw Men's World title into 333 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:32,319 the trash like he did the last time, opens up 334 00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:36,160 the Birdbery briefcase and there you have the triple B. 335 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,519 He's got to bring out the triple B tomorrow night. 336 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:44,160 I just think the briefcase would be an mjfish touch. 337 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: The triple B in the triple B, the big Breverery 338 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,200 belt in the big Birbery briefcase. 339 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,599 Speaker 2: It's a big Yeah. It's that would make it a 340 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,319 quad B, wouldn't it. No, No, triple B in a 341 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,759 bit of briefcase is a quad be. So there you go. 342 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: No, but b B B B B B. 343 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:14,759 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, we're getting a little weird here, But anyway, 344 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,839 I do want to give a shout out to the 345 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:23,160 greatest transitional champion in a W history, Samoa Joe. You 346 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,440 can't deny that he's just he's been a transitional champion 347 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,039 every time that he's had the bell. He is. He's 348 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:34,599 good at it. Uh, I don't know. 349 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:38,799 Speaker 3: I also like to thank Samoa Joe for the beautiful 350 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,920 tribute to early era Dark Order with his squad of 351 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,039 nameless creepers. 352 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:52,079 Speaker 2: Yeah oh boy. But anyway, uh, let's move on because 353 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:54,519 we've got a lot to talk about. I want to 354 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,000 talk If you look at the graphic on the screen, 355 00:23:57,079 --> 00:24:00,519 that is techless graphic graphic. I want to talk about 356 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:05,640 the women's division because as we sit right now, we've 357 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:12,039 got the aw Women's World Championship, we've got the AWTBS Championship, 358 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:18,519 and we've got the Women's Tag Team World Championship. What 359 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:25,480 we don't have is really any clear and obvious challengers. 360 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:32,759 Maybe you could say Athena for Mercedes Monet, but there's 361 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,720 absolutely no one that I can think of that is 362 00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:39,160 a clear and obvious contender for Chris Statlanders title and neither. 363 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,440 There's nobody that I can think of that is a 364 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:48,119 contender for the Women's World tag team titles. The reason 365 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:54,400 I put Tekla's graphic up is because she's one of 366 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,839 those that could be in line to challenge for all. 367 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:02,960 I really think she's a viable contender for all three. 368 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,720 But what I'm interested in knowing is who do you 369 00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:09,880 guys think are viable contenders for each of these championships? 370 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:15,000 Don't forget keep in mind also that the next pay 371 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:19,720 per view for aw isn't until March Revolution. Yes we have, 372 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,079 but also keep in the back of your head that 373 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:29,680 we have a w Grand Slam Sydney on I want 374 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,720 to say February fourteenth or fifteenth, I can't remember which. 375 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:36,079 I think it's for February fourteenth, So we do have 376 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:38,519 that in about a month and a half. 377 00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Valentine's Day in Sydney. 378 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well so so. But anyway, who do you let's 379 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,359 start with the Women's World Championship, who do you think 380 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,319 is a viable contender for let's us go right to Revolution. 381 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,920 Who right at the top of your mind, who do 382 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,359 you think is going to challenge Chris Statlander at Revolution 383 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,720 for the AW Women's World Championship. 384 00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, why not Tecla. There's plenty of time to get 385 00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:17,039 a good build for it. She's more than game. It'd 386 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:18,559 be a great match. I'd love to see it. 387 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,079 Speaker 1: I agree, honestly, I agree. 388 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually thought Tecla as well. Now Tecla was 389 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:30,359 going to be she has like a little bit of 390 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,359 a mini feud, I guess put together with Jamie Hater. 391 00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:41,160 Maybe they have a match to determine which one of 392 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,319 them gets the title shot, because the match at World's 393 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:51,400 End was very competitive between Hater and Statlander, So we 394 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:55,920 shall see there. What about the TBS chapter. 395 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that'd be a good match for 396 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Grand Slam Sidney, Yeah. 397 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:08,519 Speaker 2: It would be. Now what about the TBS Championship? Uh, look, 398 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:12,599 we've got this is an interesting case because we've got 399 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:21,200 Willow Nightingale versus Mercedes Monet on AW Dynamite New Year 400 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,279 Smash Tomorrow Night. This first and foremost, does anybody see 401 00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:30,160 Willow Nightingale defeating Mercedes Monee? 402 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,319 Speaker 1: Whoa I it to happen? 403 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, But then again, our predictions haven't exactly been 404 00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:46,559 stellar lately, and it would play into the slowly burgeoning 405 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,279 but long awaited money breakdown. 406 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: It's happening. 407 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 3: I'm loving it. 408 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: You know, on one hand, I look at it two ways, 409 00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,759 one hand, two ways, on two hands, two ways. I 410 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:02,400 guess one if anybody has been listening to these podcasts, 411 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,119 I am not one that enjoys a wrestler having two 412 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,480 aw belts at once. I did not like Samoa Joe, 413 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:16,559 for example, having the Trios title and the aw Men's 414 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:22,759 World Championship at the same time, but I knew that 415 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:24,200 he would be. He was just going to be a 416 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,160 transitional champion with the aw Men's World Championship, so I 417 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:34,119 wasn't really what was that. I wasn't really upset about 418 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,799 that because I knew it was a transitional championship. But anyway, 419 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,960 Willow Nightingale has also been a transitional championship champion before. 420 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:52,359 Don't forget when Mercedes Monet beat or what Mercedes Monee 421 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,319 won the TBS Championship. She defeated Willow Nightingale. Now, the 422 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,079 big thing with that was is that I personally don't 423 00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:06,160 feel that it was ever supposed to be Mercedes Bonet 424 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,119 winning the championship off of Willow Nightingale. I firmly believe 425 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,200 that she was supposed to win it off of Julia Hart, 426 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,880 but Julia Hart injured her shoulder and so she lost 427 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,680 the championship to Willow Nightingale. And I think Willow Nightingale 428 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,920 only held the belt for like thirty five days if 429 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,839 I'm not mistaken, before she lost it to Mercedes Monet. 430 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,240 So this is another one of those full circle moments 431 00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:39,119 where we have Mercedes Monet facing Willow Nightingale. Will Nightingale 432 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,519 may win this title and be a transitional champion that 433 00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:49,680 you'll lose it in the next month like she did 434 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,359 the last time. What do you guys think about that possible? 435 00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'd kind of like to throw into 436 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,279 this mix is Meghan Dane with Penelope out. She's kind 437 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:04,440 of out of partner and she's too cool to just 438 00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,400 like have like just fiddle around until then. 439 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: Megan Bain would be a really good good pick. I 440 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,960 do agree with you there. What about you, Chris? 441 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,759 Speaker 1: You know I was going to kind of agree with 442 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,480 you on Willow being a transitional champion couldn't work, But 443 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,799 I gotta go with just man put it on Megan Bain, like, 444 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,319 let her be the one to bead Mercedes. It's a 445 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:35,720 big moment, and you know she's strong, she's powerful, she's 446 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:40,400 you know, gotten over with the crowd decently. You know, 447 00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:44,160 she's a workforce. Based on her schedule in the last 448 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:51,319 couple of months. Yeah, put the title on her. I'm 449 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,759 one on board the get on the bean train, get 450 00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:56,279 on the bank. 451 00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: I gotta say this, it's a little bit off topic, 452 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:03,599 but a couple of days ago, Stardom held their Dream 453 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:08,240 Queendom pay per view. Megan Baine did participate in it. 454 00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:10,440 She was in a tag match that went to a 455 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:16,279 timing the draw. But on one of her opponents was Bozilla, 456 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,279 and those two, my god, some of the things they did. 457 00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:24,319 I mean, of course, they did the bit where they 458 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,319 ran the ropes and slammityt each into each other and 459 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,839 either of the budge Bosilla hit Megan Baine with a 460 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,920 couple of tremendous power bombs. But what I was one 461 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,640 of the things I was most impressed about. Meggan Bain 462 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:46,680 did a top rope per conrona on Bosilla. Why. 463 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,799 Speaker 1: I felt that it was freaking awesome. 464 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,359 Speaker 2: I was like that those two women, I applaud them. 465 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:02,119 I mean, I mean, they are they're not tiny. People 466 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:05,599 put it that way, and I mean that respectfully. I 467 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:12,319 love both of them, but to see if if there 468 00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:17,720 were two men of commensurate size doing that, we'd be like, wow, 469 00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:21,839 go look up, there's you can find the highlights of 470 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,119 this on x Just look up Megan Bain, Dream Queendom 471 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,319 or something to that effect, and you'll see video highlights 472 00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:32,319 of it. It is astounding. The other thing that I 473 00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:36,599 found astounding about it both of them was the speed 474 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,200 at which they moved in the ring. Absolutely fantastic. But 475 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,839 I agree with both of you. Meghan Bain would be 476 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,799 a great choice in this in this case, I really do. 477 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,039 Let's let's move on to the women's tag team champions 478 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:59,319 because this at this event, I don't see any teams. 479 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,799 I really don't can't think of one that hasn't already 480 00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:03,599 been there, done that. 481 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: I do. 482 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,319 Speaker 3: As soon as you mentioned, as soon as you reminded 483 00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:10,680 me that Grand Slam is going to be in Sydney, 484 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,559 give the Love Bombs their rematch. 485 00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:16,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but again that's a been there, done that kind 486 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,519 of thing. 487 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's no no challengers that they really haven't 488 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:30,920 faced already. The division is really thinned right now. Unfortunately, 489 00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:31,400 I mean. 490 00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:35,119 Speaker 2: They yeah, I mean they did. You know, aw did 491 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:41,519 make Hienne and My World all elite after but during 492 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,880 Zero Hour, which I am so happy for those two. 493 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,559 They do have Lena Cross in the in the shadows there. 494 00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:57,720 Putting Lane across with with Megan Bain would be unbelievable, 495 00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:01,720 you know that. I mean I could see those two 496 00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:07,200 forming up, and I believe that they have tagged in 497 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:11,960 the recent past, like since October together. I think they lost, 498 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,559 but they have tags, so they do know each other 499 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,239 and do have hopefully some character, some chemistry with each other. 500 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:28,360 There's also don't like Dakota Kai or Charlie as she's 501 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,079 now known. I don't think she's going by the ev moniker, 502 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,639 but she's another person that they can bring in. 503 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,679 Speaker 3: You want to hear a bonkers rumor, go for it. 504 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,239 I have no substantiate substantiation on this. This is all 505 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:49,119 rumor and innuendo. I need to make that clear. But 506 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,000 I heard through the through the inter tubes that Bailey 507 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,760 may be thinking of jumping. Imagine Bailey and Dakota Kai 508 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,719 and the tag team tag team scene. 509 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: Well, that that's true. The reason I didn't bring Bailey 510 00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:07,320 up is simply because Bailey's contract apparently goes through the 511 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,639 end of twenty twenty six, so if she jumps, it's 512 00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:13,960 not going to be anytime soon. And this is something 513 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:17,920 that and this is something that I looked up actually 514 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,280 over the weekend. So yeah, Bailey's pretty much wrapped up 515 00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:26,559 in WWE unless she gets a release until twenty twenty. 516 00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:28,079 At the end of twenty twenty. 517 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 3: Six addition to the roster, though. 518 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: It. 519 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,519 Speaker 2: Was something like June of last year where she did 520 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,280 an interview and she said, I still have a year 521 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,519 and a half left on my content. 522 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,079 Speaker 1: Well maybe twenty twenty seven will be good to us. 523 00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, I mean. 524 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: Look, the women's tag edition right now, maybe try to 525 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,679 bring in an international team to at least you know, 526 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,519 Chatlenge and you got his part, trying to build up 527 00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:02,599 more teams, honestly, to create more teams, because right now 528 00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:06,199 there's not even enough. I mean there's okay, we've got 529 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:12,239 Babes of Breath, We've got we've got Timeless Love. Uh 530 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:23,239 hi ja, Yeah, that's it, and I think you probably will. 531 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can even count you can even 532 00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,199 put in there Billy Starks at the theater or even 533 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,840 Billy Starks in Diamante from Ring of Honor, you know there, 534 00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:37,360 you can put that in there. I don't know, it's 535 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,079 I I think that the tournament that they did was 536 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,440 somewhat detrimental. I would love I would love to see 537 00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:51,000 a tag team or even two tag teams from stardom 538 00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:56,760 come over and challenge. I really would because well, first 539 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,920 of all, they're fantastic. I mean, Kaguma and a Zuki 540 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,679 are a very good choice. Yeah yeah, And then you know, 541 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,760 and it's never gonna happen because they simply don't wrestle 542 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,840 outside of Japan that much. I mean they had just 543 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,840 recently they wrestled UH in China for the first time. 544 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,960 I think that was their first matches in either of 545 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,960 their careers outside of Japan. And that's UH Sorrano and 546 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,920 and that's a boy Uh. That's another great team. I 547 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,920 mean you can even go be U Amasaki and Azumi. 548 00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,840 There's just so many teams out there. Starlight Kid at 549 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,280 a Zumi, which is those are two women that I 550 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,280 know because Tony Kahn spoke of them in an interview 551 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480 that he thinks highly of. So when you're looking at 552 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,440 the women's tag team division, not saying that they should win, 553 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,679 but there are people in stardom that could come in 554 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,360 and work these matches and fill in some gaps. I 555 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,679 guess the best way of putting it. 556 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 3: I've never seen her, and I've always Starlight Kid, and 557 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,960 I've always meant to. She has like a very your 558 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,280 favorite wrestler's favorite wrestler vibe, so I definitely need to 559 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:14,960 check out more. 560 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 2: Joshi, Well, the thing about Starlight Kid, there's two things 561 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,199 that stand out about Starlight Kid. One is that she's 562 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,280 custom built to be popular with children, and she is. 563 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,400 She's got this superhero vibe to her. The other thing 564 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,719 about Starlight Kid is she's tiny. There's just no other 565 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,079 way around it. She makes Rio look like a giant. 566 00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:42,679 But that doesn't mean anything because like, what's your name, 567 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:48,599 Sayata from Stardom is four foot nine and she's built 568 00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:52,639 like if she's built like Olypia. Are you familiar with 569 00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:53,960 Olympia from CML. 570 00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen her. 571 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just if you look at Olypia, she's not 572 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,559 the biggest woman as far as height goes, but she 573 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,760 is a boulder. I mean, she's just one big set 574 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,960 of muscles. And that's the same way the same way 575 00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:10,159 with Sayida. 576 00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 3: I say, she's a brick out house. 577 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,079 Speaker 2: Breakout house. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. 578 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean Sia either was the only woman in the 579 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:24,159 n jp W concourse though, which is like their kind 580 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:28,679 of like a body building their best body competition thing. 581 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,719 She was the only woman in it. 582 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and she my god, I mean I 583 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:44,280 ran across pictures as Siah Uh. She was just workout pictures, 584 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,559 you know, like she was bodybuilding, and they had pictures 585 00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:52,159 of her flexing, and I was like, I wouldn't want 586 00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,639 to run to her in a dark alley. She killed me, 587 00:39:56,119 --> 00:40:00,360 all four foot nine of her. She's just she She 588 00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:03,599 had all the same thing with Olympia. Again, not the hot, 589 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,639 tallest women in the world, but just impressive physical specimens. 590 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:12,320 You don't have to be tall, it would be impressive. Look, 591 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,760 I've said this about I've said this about Rio. You know, 592 00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:21,880 Rio is five foot one, which there are women that 593 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,519 are smaller than she is as far as height. Her 594 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,559 ring attire kind of belies the fact that she's a unit. 595 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,559 If you look at Rio, she is cut. She is 596 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,800 no joke. So you know, I can understand people looking 597 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,039 at her like little fairy outfit and say it, oh 598 00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:49,440 Japanese schoolgirl like Cornett says the creeper, you know. But 599 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,800 the fact of the matter is she's better than me, 600 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,199 and I know it. You know what I mean. It's 601 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,800 like I don't get it. But anyway, let's move on 602 00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:04,320 because we've already talked a little bit about the Don 603 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,199 Kallis family, but we're going to talk about him a 604 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,480 little bit more because, you know what, I want to 605 00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:17,639 go back just before we start this, because Jess on 606 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:25,239 the discord, you made a observation about John Moxley's celebration 607 00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:28,719 that I honestly did not notice. Do you remember what 608 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,199 you said? 609 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,559 Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I was actually waiting for an opportune 610 00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:37,360 time to bring it up. So Mox's face is a 611 00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,639 pretty much face. Now we've sort of discussed this already, 612 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,960 and the question is whether or not that makes the 613 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,039 rest of the death writer's face by default, because the 614 00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:52,199 writers will tend to follow Mox's ideology, and they were 615 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,199 all celebrating with him, there didn't seem to be a 616 00:41:55,199 --> 00:42:00,360 shred of dissension. But somebody was very conspicuous us by 617 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,159 their absence, and that someone was pop Pack. 618 00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 2: I act I did not even notice it. I did 619 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,320 not notice it until you posted it on Discord. By 620 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,960 the way, our Discord link is right there at the 621 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,239 bottom of the screen. If you're watching us right now, 622 00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:21,719 it's or you could just look it up at ep 623 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:25,079 W Hub everything Pro Wrestling Hub. 624 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 625 00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 3: I can't take all the credit for that observation. A 626 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,000 few other people saw it too during the live chat. 627 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure, but I didn't notice it at all, did you, Chris? 628 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,599 Speaker 1: I only noticed that he wasn't there at all, like 629 00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:44,400 for the whole show, because I thought he was part 630 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,840 of that mixed nuts mayhem mats. At first, I like, 631 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,000 I swear that's what I saw on the graphic, but 632 00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:55,800 then it got fained, so it's like, well, maybe did 633 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,719 they let him go home for Christmas? 634 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 2: Maybe? But look, let's move on to the don Kallis family. 635 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 5: Because uh we got some uh some stuff going on, 636 00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:12,199 and the don Kallis family, Kyle Fletcher's pissed off, Takeshta's 637 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:12,840 pissed off. 638 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 2: Oh Kan has always pissed off. What do you think 639 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,239 is gonna happen with the don Kallis family. Somebody is 640 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,519 going to be leaving. 641 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a meltdown. I don't think a sexy 642 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:31,320 picture is gonna fix I think the obvious choice is Takeshta. 643 00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:35,760 People love Takeshta. People have always loved Takeshta. People have 644 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:41,440 wanted to cheer Takeshta again since he turned heel. If 645 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,599 anybody is the de facto good guy in this whole 646 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,400 drama rama mess, it's him. 647 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: I want to interrupt you. Why do you say that? 648 00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:54,599 Because if you've been watching takeshta matches, I agree with 649 00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:58,599 you that everybody wants to roof for Takeshta. But he 650 00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:02,519 has literally given no reason or any indication that he's 651 00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:06,920 turning babyface. If you watch his matches, he's heel through 652 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,400 and through. 653 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but he's at odds with Okada, who is 654 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:17,079 the healiust of Heels Stitch. So being at odds with 655 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,039 Okada sort of makes him face by default in that 656 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,159 uh dichotomy he's in. 657 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a babyface in that particular situation. What I'm 658 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,000 saying is that he has not done anything. Hey, Conrad, 659 00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:37,199 what's up? We were talking about Takeshta. He has not 660 00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:40,079 given any indication of being a babyface. 661 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 4: I would agree with that, except for in. 662 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 2: As Jesus said, the situation with Okada. I think everybody 663 00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,360 wants him to be a babyface, but he is not 664 00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:55,199 giving any indication of being a babyface. 665 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: But has he really done any outright tactics in his matches? Yes, 666 00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:05,800 I haven't. I haven't really, you know, I haven't noticed 667 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,599 him like raking eyes or chokes or you know, he wrestles, 668 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,280 already beats the ship out of his opponents. But I 669 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,599 haven't noticed him really doing anything dirty or cheap during 670 00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:19,360 this matches. 671 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 2: Right, what about? Uh? What about you, Jess? Have you 672 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,239 noticed him doing anything pelish? 673 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:32,159 Speaker 3: Not particularly? It's a like a like was like what 674 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,559 was just said? Like he's a badass, he's not nice, 675 00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:41,239 but he hasn't Like I haven't seen him try to 676 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,199 on his own accord blatantly screwdriver or anyone, or break 677 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,599 eyes or kick people in the dick or give people 678 00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:51,199 the finger like some people. 679 00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: What about what about you? Show? He's not here? No, 680 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,039 I'm here, I'm here, Okay. 681 00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 4: You can call me Kai. I was ready to be 682 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,920 called show. I feel like big show than Paul White 683 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:09,400 or something. Yeah, whatever, call me whatever. But the Yeah, 684 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,360 I don't know, Like I think Takesha has I think 685 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,760 we're all smart wrestling fans in here. So for the 686 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,719 most part, I think that we noticed the little things, 687 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,599 like he really hasn't done heels stuff like his offense 688 00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:24,000 is really a babyface's offense, the Blue Thunderbomb, and he 689 00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:27,119 has a lot of exciting moves. I haven't noticed him 690 00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:29,239 cheating or doing anything like that. I think that's why 691 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,639 they added that into the The World's End match, like 692 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,960 the screwdriver portion of it, like to let you know, 693 00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:39,840 like Okata is bad, Don Kallas is bad. These are 694 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,199 bad people you should not trust. It's kind of like 695 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,280 the Mafia when someone gets involved with them, but you're 696 00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:46,480 kind of cheering for the good guy involved with them 697 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,360 when you watch those kinds of movies. I feel like 698 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,360 that's the position Takesha is in, and we all just 699 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,800 know better. But technically he is not a babyface yet. 700 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right with you, Conrad. Look, I think we 701 00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:01,480 can all agree that everybody wants not everybody, but a 702 00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:05,239 lot of people want to root for Takeshta. 703 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:05,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. 704 00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: I mean you heard it. 705 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 1: During the match, you know, when they had to strike 706 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:15,800 exchanges every time Okata hit boom, every time Taquesta hit yay, 707 00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,199 Like people want to root for him, and I don't 708 00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,960 think he needs to be a full on babyface, you know, 709 00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:26,719 playing into the crowd, you know, getting them behind him. 710 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:32,400 Like he can just be the badass, straightforward wrestler that 711 00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:37,400 he is, and you know against Don Kallas and his duns. 712 00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:42,719 Obviously people are gonna here for Taquesta, but he but 713 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,039 he could go against a guy like you know, Adam 714 00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:50,719 Page or Roder Strong Tyler O'Reilly, and the people are 715 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,880 going to tear for them because they are more outright babyfaces. 716 00:47:55,079 --> 00:48:00,400 Takesta can be perfect in that badass in between role. 717 00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:02,679 You know, he's a heel when you need him to be. 718 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,079 He's a face when you need him to be. But 719 00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:08,360 he's always going to be young, damn good wrestler. 720 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:16,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he's very much associated, especially since he's taken 721 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,159 on this alpha persona with Ony Imagery and Onnie is 722 00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:22,960 a demon, but you can be a noble demon, but 723 00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:24,800 a demon is still a demon, right. 724 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:27,559 Speaker 2: Look, I want to move on because we're running out 725 00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:31,000 of time here, and I do want to talk about 726 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,039 the New Year's Smash. Ricochet is going to be facing 727 00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:40,000 Jack Perry forty aw National Championship, and I've heard some 728 00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,519 discourse about aw belts pop up. Even recently, we had 729 00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:48,400 a post at the aw fat hub subreddit saying that 730 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,679 the international title should be retired. Don't know about that, 731 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,000 but I'm interested in hearing what you're gonna say. I'm 732 00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:00,480 kind of upset that Barry isn't here because as when 733 00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:05,280 the AW National Title was initiated, he had said that 734 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,039 this is a title, and I believe it was. What 735 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,199 he said is that this was a title that should 736 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,800 be hopotatoed and shouldn't be held by somebody for very long. 737 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,920 It should move from person to person. That being said, 738 00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,039 you guys may disagree with me here, but I really 739 00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,000 don't see the difference between the AW National Title and 740 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:33,559 the TNT Championship. I really don't. I mean, I know 741 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,239 now there isn't much of one. Yeah, until they start 742 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,320 doing what like they did. They promise that they were 743 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,840 going to defend this title in other promotions et cetera. 744 00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: He defended in he defended it when they were over 745 00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:56,679 in the UK. I know that, like, not on a 746 00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,639 w or Ring of Honor TV, like I don't remember 747 00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:05,719 the rev pro probably was because I think they kind 748 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,440 of I don't think they have a formal relationship with them, 749 00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:12,960 but I think kind of through you know, multiple people 750 00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:17,280 work there, and New Japan has a partnership with a 751 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,639 loose kind of partnership with Red Pro. I think a 752 00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,559 W also kind of has that loose partnership, so it 753 00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:24,920 probably was over there. 754 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,159 Speaker 4: Do you know, Conrad, if they have a partnership with them? 755 00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:29,639 Speaker 1: No? 756 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 2: Did was it Red Pro? That? Uh? That Ricochet defended 757 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,480 the title up? Yeah? 758 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,519 Speaker 4: I believe so. I believe that was the company. I 759 00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:40,760 think he's got another one lined up too, doesn't He 760 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,480 could be wrong going back and forth with people. 761 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 2: Anyway, the guys, do we have any of you see 762 00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:54,559 Jack Perry beating Ricochet tomorrow night for the National Championship. 763 00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: I think it'll be a really good that's really entertaining, 764 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:07,239 and you know, you'll have katesa agony with the distraction 765 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:13,280 and Ricochet gets the classic heel win, which you know, 766 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,320 further's what he is doing, and it makes it where 767 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,719 Jack Perry's like, Okay, he didn't get beat straight up 768 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,840 so he could challenge it. He could challenge later on 769 00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:25,679 and win. 770 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm going to pose the question of the 771 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,880 hour here. With Okada losing the continental title, the Unified 772 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:40,679 championship is now basically doesn't exist. I mean it exists, 773 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,119 but it's not listed on the AW roster page as 774 00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,920 a title because the title is no longer unified. So 775 00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:56,360 right now there are nine active titles in a W 776 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,360 If you had to remove, move one title. Because so 777 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,119 many people are saying that AW as too many titles, 778 00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:10,440 which I do not agree with. I think that they 779 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,440 have the right amount of titles. I just think that 780 00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:16,000 there are some titles that they are not pushing by 781 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,519 defending them as often as they should. But if you 782 00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:23,000 have to remove one of the current titles, which would 783 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:23,440 you remove? 784 00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: I would? Sorry, I get rid of the Continental Make 785 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,800 it where the winner of the continental class that gets 786 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,599 a title shot at revolution and make it like really 787 00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:39,719 mean something, and that way you have quite a while 788 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,519 to build you put your you know, make it like 789 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,920 the g one you know, right, they get a title shot. 790 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,480 It's a big paper. 791 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 2: Right, and that's a big deal because you do get 792 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,599 the title shot. 793 00:52:55,679 --> 00:53:01,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I was gonna say, Uh, as 794 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:04,079 much potential as they have, they've never really lived up 795 00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:07,519 to that potential. So go ahead. Next the trios titles. 796 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 2: What about you, Conrad? 797 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 4: Sorry, I keep muting myself just so no one hears 798 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,440 me breathe or something. I have all the titles pulled up. 799 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,559 I see a total of ten here. It's weird because 800 00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:19,719 if you look at each one, you gotta have a world. 801 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,159 I do love that they have like a women's mid 802 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:26,360 card title. And then it depends on I guess your 803 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,320 feelings on certain things, and I'm going to kind of 804 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,199 agree with Jess with the with the tag titles. The 805 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,039 tag titles were great until you introduce the trios, and 806 00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:37,039 then you had to take tag teams to fit into 807 00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:40,719 the trios, and then it becomes like a difficult championship. 808 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,199 To me, the trio's belt should be the land of misfits, 809 00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,119 like where we don't have stuff for people to do. 810 00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,480 Three of you can go together and be over here. 811 00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:49,880 So I don't disagree with I don't agree with taking 812 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,320 away the trios belts per se, but I think you 813 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,199 could do some kind of combination here because I love 814 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,280 the International title. I just like the look of it, 815 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,400 even though it's similar to the women's but I think 816 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,159 that belt's just great looking. I would consider like the 817 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,119 National and the Continental and the International, Like you gotta 818 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,159 find a way I think to combine those three and 819 00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:12,360 I think you would have yourself a solid like number 820 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,599 two championship. I would put that even over the TNT 821 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,320 at this point. 822 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,079 Speaker 3: Also, there's are we counting the Dynamite Diamond Ring as 823 00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:25,599 a title? No, I mean it is trophy, so it 824 00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:29,719 is defended annually. But I guess like didn't even have 825 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,000 a say in it this year, which is kind of dumb. 826 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,079 And the ring is his thing. But I love bandido, 827 00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:35,639 so I'm not going to complain too much. 828 00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised that that became like ring versus 829 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,679 title as well. But I think that the they have 830 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,559 so they have the aw World title, the Women's World title, 831 00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:48,400 the TBS title, Continental Champion, and the World Tag champs. 832 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,719 Then you have Brisco with the TNT title, Trios title, 833 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,559 Ocatta still has the International Ricochet has the national title, 834 00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:57,119 and then you have the Babes of Wrath with the 835 00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:57,800 tag titles. 836 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I have to agree with the trios thing. I 837 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,400 have said often in the past that the trios should 838 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,719 be combined with the Sixth Man because that's what they 839 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,280 call it, and Ring of Honor the trios titles. Conrad 840 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,679 I agree with exactly what I think you were alluding 841 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,079 to or what you said. They use the trios teams 842 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,960 as tag team from the Tag Team division and add one. 843 00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:27,559 It's a trios plus one. There's not really other than 844 00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:32,480 the Ops and maybe the Elite now there are no 845 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,159 trios teams, you know, specific trios teams, and even I 846 00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:39,480 would even say that the Young Bucks and the and 847 00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:45,559 Kenny Omega are are tag team plus one right now, 848 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,639 So I would get I would, I would definitely get 849 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,599 rid of the trios. And I absolutely agree with Chris 850 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,800 the Continental should not be a belt, that should be 851 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,320 a trophy. 852 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 4: And I agree with what you're saying too, Like I'm 853 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,480 not even saying if you didn't want to get rid 854 00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:03,280 of the trios, that's fine, but combining them with the 855 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,599 Ring of Honor and making some of these championships like hey, 856 00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:08,800 these will cross over. We will be able to do 857 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,960 this with these, Like I think that works. 858 00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I No, I agree with youonred percent there It's 859 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:20,400 just I again, I don't believe that AW has too 860 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,960 many titles. I just think that they may have too 861 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,639 many titles without really having a plan for them. And 862 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,760 they're definitely some titles like what was the last time. 863 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,400 I don't remember the last time the international title was defended. 864 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 4: I think it's because it was in that weird flex 865 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,000 of like it's being defendant when you defend the Unified Championship. 866 00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:45,199 I think Tony Kahn has to make sure. I think 867 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,480 Aw' is good at writing storylines from let's just say 868 00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:51,440 it's ABC D, right. They're good to get from A 869 00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:54,079 to D and it feels worth it. But where they 870 00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:55,960 miss things or in the middle of like B and C, 871 00:56:56,159 --> 00:56:58,239 where it's like you have to explain what you are 872 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,679 doing with these because people were asking them, like so 873 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,679 those belts don't exist, No, they're still active. 874 00:57:03,079 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 2: But it's funny you bring that up, Conrad, because that's 875 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,079 one of my pot pourri points. It really is. So 876 00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:12,400 we're gonna discuss that right now. We're gonna go to 877 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,559 pot Pourrix. Pot Pourrix is where we can bring up anything, 878 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,000 whether it's an A, W or any other promotion to 879 00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:24,119 talk about. Uh so, does anybody have a pot pourrix I. 880 00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 3: Do just a little fun, just a little fun observation 881 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:34,440 from World's End. Uh I noticed right away, and it 882 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,079 took some other people in the live chat. It took 883 00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:40,599 me pointing it out and then then looking for themselves. 884 00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:49,159 Speedball Mike Bailey was wearing Kevin Knight's pants. I pointed 885 00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:51,400 that out and people were like, no, They're just wearing 886 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,679 different pants from different sets, and I'm like, no, Speedball 887 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,199 is wearing pants that say night on them and have 888 00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:03,440 little jets. Turns out later the reason for this is 889 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:11,960 that the poor poor Speedball his luggage got lost. He 890 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,840 did eventually find it, but it's thank He just thinks 891 00:58:16,199 --> 00:58:19,800 they're lucky stars that they have a tag partner who 892 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,840 is the same size as they are and happen to 893 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,360 have his extra set of pants. 894 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, while you always keep this set of basic gear 895 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:27,679 in your carry on. 896 00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 2: There you go, anybody else have a potpourri before I 897 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,960 go mine? Yes? 898 00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: Is Orange Cassidy a home record? I mean dancing jumping 899 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,199 into her arms like that. Mina didn't look too happy 900 00:58:48,239 --> 00:58:50,440 about it. I don't think he's on board with the 901 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,760 whole thing, Like, that's Mina's woman, she ain't gonna share her. 902 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do expect in the near future of Mina 903 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,760 does bitch slap Orange Cassidy. 904 00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:04,239 Speaker 3: Tony can have two wives if she wants to. 905 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: No, you can't. You get one wife that's just the 906 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:13,480 way it is. 907 00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 2: Well, she is the horror we adore Tony Storm, so 908 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,599 she's she's buying into the character. I guess she's got 909 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,800 three lovers now, I guess. I don't know. 910 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, how does about? This is what I really want 911 00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:31,840 to know. 912 00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:35,719 Speaker 2: I'm sure that Juice has enough to handle at home 913 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,119 that he doesn't care about it in the wrestling ring, 914 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,000 because I Juice did make a do an interview recently 915 00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:47,880 that I saw recently, It was about about three or 916 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,519 four months ago, where he said more and more basically 917 00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:56,320 that Tony stormers bringing the character home with him with her, 918 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,480 so to speak. 919 00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:01,239 Speaker 3: I guess my wife and my wife his wife. 920 01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:05,639 Speaker 1: He had to pay all the parties for black and white. 921 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. I'm sure. I'm sure they have 922 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,360 sofa covers on their sofa and stuff like that. Now, 923 01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:19,159 all right, So I'm gonna go with my pot pourri. 924 01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:22,400 And this has something to do with what Conrad brought 925 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,599 up just a little bit ago. Tony Kahan said in 926 01:00:26,679 --> 01:00:30,440 a recent interview that he does not believe that most 927 01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:38,880 of the hardcore aw fans quite understood the whole John 928 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:46,760 Moxley and Death Writer's story as it was going on. 929 01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:51,119 I think that, and I think it does go to 930 01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,920 what Conrad. I mean, I understood it when it began, 931 01:00:54,679 --> 01:00:58,039 and I understood it when it ended. It wasn't that 932 01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:01,079 I maybe it's not that I didn't underst stand it 933 01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:06,159 in sections B and C, as Conrad was alluding to. 934 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:12,599 Is just that it just became uninteresting and convoluted to me. 935 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,280 And I think that's all, you know, if you look 936 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,960 at the what was said on social media about it, 937 01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:20,760 I think a lot of people felt that way. I 938 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,800 don't think there's any denying that a lot of hardcore 939 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,079 AW fans felt that way. What do you guys think 940 01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:28,840 the time. 941 01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:34,679 Speaker 1: Say? I like, the beginning was great and interesting, the 942 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,599 ending was really good, but that middle part there were 943 01:01:38,719 --> 01:01:43,320 just some bits that were a bit muddy, a bit slow, 944 01:01:43,639 --> 01:01:48,920 a bit like, oh, this crap is happening again. I 945 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,320 mean the reason that I called them the North American 946 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,440 branch of House of Torture, like it was just the 947 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:01,440 same damn crap every map, and not even just every 948 01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:05,840 you know Moxley match, I mean every match any single 949 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,320 one of them was in. You knew at least one 950 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:14,079 other death riding bastard son of them. Yeah, it was 951 01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:17,679 going to come in and interfere and just screw up everything, 952 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:23,840 and like that is the overuse of interference pretty much 953 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,880 in general, is like one of my big pet peeves 954 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:32,239 and wrestling, like because it's like, okay, this is we 955 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,239 know it's not a fight, but it's supposed to be 956 01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:39,599 similar to a fight, and the worst thing you can 957 01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:41,679 do in a fight is have your buddy attacked your 958 01:02:41,679 --> 01:02:45,800 opponent from behind, like that's a punkin. So when they 959 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,760 had them doing that constantly, it's like, Okay, this is 960 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,599 just a group of punk cast thugs just who can't 961 01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:54,480 win a fight on their own. That was. 962 01:02:56,519 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 2: Well, let's hear from Conrad. 963 01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the Death Writers thing, I 964 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,719 think people were too hard on it. I was saying 965 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,760 that from Jump Street though, like I'm like, you guys 966 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,039 are kind of being ridiculous in my opinion about it. 967 01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:11,760 Like I was like, why is everyone going so hard 968 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,960 about this? Like it felt like every month John Moxley 969 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,400 had to lose And I didn't agree with that. I 970 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,960 was like, why why does he have to lose? And 971 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,480 then when he gets the heat and then in the 972 01:03:21,639 --> 01:03:23,519 end when we get to all in, I was like, oh, 973 01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:26,519 now everybody gets it. So was it just people being 974 01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:28,280 impatient and wanting what they want it? 975 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:28,559 Speaker 2: Now? 976 01:03:29,199 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, it just depends. It felt like a 977 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,760 very weird thing though, like people didn't want Moxley to 978 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,760 be the champ, and I think he just used He 979 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,000 used what makes internet fans upset to get his heat, 980 01:03:40,119 --> 01:03:42,559 because that he knows that's Aw's core audience, because that's 981 01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:45,639 what we were down to at that point. So I 982 01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:49,239 thought Moxley played it precisely, very well. And then at 983 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,920 World's end I looked at everyone again and I said, 984 01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:55,199 even on my podcast, like, wow, I find it funny 985 01:03:55,199 --> 01:03:57,639 that everybody was cheering for John Moxley. Now. It's almost 986 01:03:57,719 --> 01:03:59,559 like he knows what he's doing, you know, like I 987 01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:01,039 think he I think he made it work for. 988 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Him, right, Yeah, Because we even said earlier in the show, Conrad, 989 01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:09,079 you know, John Moxley was getting these cheers organically. I mean, 990 01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:14,079 he didn't do anything baby faces, I guess is the 991 01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:17,199 best way to put it to earn those cheers. It's 992 01:04:17,239 --> 01:04:19,679 just people wanted a cheer for him, and you can't 993 01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:22,280 stop the people from doing what they want. Look, my 994 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,800 problem with the death writers is that are reminded me 995 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,840 so much of the Outcast. You remember the Outcasts, where 996 01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:34,280 you had who wasn't Tony Storm, Soreya God, who else 997 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,599 was in the outcast? Ruby? Soho Harley was I. 998 01:04:37,639 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Think early on? 999 01:04:38,599 --> 01:04:43,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you'd have you knew that it 1000 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,920 was going to be at least at any rate. You 1001 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,400 knew it was going to be at least three on 1002 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,840 one every time an Outcast member was in a match, 1003 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,280 and yet the baby faces I guess you could call 1004 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,440 them in the Aw's women's division, were too stupid to 1005 01:04:57,559 --> 01:05:01,360 realize this, and they were getting because it was always 1006 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,679 one on three. And this was my problem with the 1007 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,480 death writers. It started out so good and that it 1008 01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:11,079 just died out to the point where as Chris said 1009 01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:15,880 it was repetitive, it was kind of stupid, to be 1010 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,119 honest with you, because it was kind of reminded me 1011 01:05:18,159 --> 01:05:22,039 of the Outcast thing, with the constant ear interference, with 1012 01:05:23,199 --> 01:05:25,920 the opponents not being smart enough to realize that it 1013 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,400 was coming, even though it happened two times a week 1014 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:34,800 for damn near nine months. Right, It started good at 1015 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:41,119 the end of at the end of it, when Hagman 1016 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:47,199 beat Moxley, I mean Hagman wins or we riot. That 1017 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:52,679 was the whole point. You know, everybody wanted to see 1018 01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:57,639 And I could say that with all confidence that every 1019 01:05:57,679 --> 01:06:02,559 single AW fan wanted to see Moxley lose the title. 1020 01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:07,400 Now that is a testament to John Moxley. But I 1021 01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:12,760 disagree with Tony Kahan that people didn't understand it. If 1022 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,960 people didn't understand it, that's on you, Tony Khan, because 1023 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,639 you didn't tell the story right. People did. If hardcore 1024 01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:24,920 AW fans out of a if Tony Cohn's mouth, hardcore 1025 01:06:25,079 --> 01:06:28,840 AW fans didn't understand the John Moxley death writer's story, 1026 01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,400 that's on you, Tony Khan. You did not tell the 1027 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,320 story right. I am sorry, but that's truth. Personally, I 1028 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,719 liked it when it began because remember it was like 1029 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,920 attempted murders the first couple of weeks. Then it got 1030 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,440 playing stupid, and then at the end it wasn't a 1031 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,440 great story. At the end, it was the fact that 1032 01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:53,960 it was over, or at least we thought it was, 1033 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:59,000 you know, the story ended. That's that's what it was. 1034 01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:03,039 That's what people were excited about, not not that the 1035 01:07:03,079 --> 01:07:06,559 story was great, but that the story was over. That's 1036 01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:07,840 my personal opinion on. 1037 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:13,159 Speaker 1: It, and I like, I don't think people necessarily wanted 1038 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:19,400 to boom. You know Moxley Claudio talk like you know, 1039 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,679 I'll again, here's the house of torture comparison. People like 1040 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:30,199 these wrestlers. You know, I like Moxley, I like, sure, yeah, 1041 01:07:30,239 --> 01:07:34,159 you know, I like Claudio, like I like written Rita 1042 01:07:34,239 --> 01:07:38,079 and Doki and Yoshinobu Kanovar. You know, I like Pop 1043 01:07:38,199 --> 01:07:43,199 the same way like Sonata. What I don't like is 1044 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,800 them being a little bitch. Isn't always having to have help? 1045 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,440 Like you're great wrestlers, you know, you want to be heeled, 1046 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,679 you want to be dirty, you want to be nasty, 1047 01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:00,239 great eyes. Shoke people, you know, fling them in, did 1048 01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:04,159 the barricade, Like, be absolute beast and don't give us 1049 01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:10,000 f about the rules. But don't use your other guys. 1050 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,039 Use your wrestling, use your know how, use your viciousness, 1051 01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:20,319 you know, gouge people in behind, choke them, you know, 1052 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,119 distract the wrapic kick them in the balls. But don't 1053 01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:30,800 use other people. And I think that is where most 1054 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,439 people had a problem with, Like it was the constant interfering. 1055 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,359 Speaker 3: You know what parallel I haven't heard made yet This 1056 01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,840 is something I've thought of a bit in retrospect, that 1057 01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:47,760 the story of the Death Writers and Hangman Page was 1058 01:08:48,119 --> 01:08:57,359 a smarter and mercifully shorter version of the bloodlining Cody Rose. 1059 01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,560 Speaker 4: Thank you. I was waiting to say that thank you, 1060 01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:02,880 Like only this. 1061 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,039 Speaker 3: I sat through all of that, Like I stopped watching 1062 01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:13,000 WWE at all after Cody won the title, because that 1063 01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:15,399 was really the only thing I was sticking around for. 1064 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,399 I wanted to see it happen. It finally happened, and. 1065 01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 1: I was done. 1066 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 3: Uh, it had gotten more than too much for me 1067 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,119 way before that. I just wanted to see the stupid 1068 01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:27,880 story end before I finished. 1069 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,079 Speaker 1: But yeah, the story. 1070 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, if you guys thought death Writers were tedious, 1071 01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:39,119 you would not have survived the entirety of the Blood Line. 1072 01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:42,079 Speaker 2: Well do Conrad, do you think that one of the 1073 01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:45,880 things that may have made the Death Writers Tearing tedious 1074 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:51,199 to some pro wrestling fans, not just hardcorey w fans, 1075 01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:54,840 is that the similarities between the Death Writers and the 1076 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:55,359 Blood Line. 1077 01:09:55,520 --> 01:10:00,279 Speaker 4: I yes, I think that. I think when a w 1078 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,520 was down that Sam punk Cloud did not leave, and 1079 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,359 I'm sure when is the anniversary of that. We still 1080 01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:08,079 got a couple more years. Once we hit like five 1081 01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:09,840 to ten years, you're gonna see a lot of videos 1082 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,000 and a lot of talk about it. That dark cloud 1083 01:10:13,119 --> 01:10:16,039 followed them, and I think they just got that cloud 1084 01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:19,079 off of them. I want to say this year like 1085 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,840 maybe double or nothing. 1086 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:21,319 Speaker 2: Agree. 1087 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 4: Agree, It took them a long time. So Tony Khan 1088 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,479 was looking for anything and everyone. And what's one of 1089 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,920 Tony Khan's number one breaking case of emergencies. It's always 1090 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,119 been and always probably will be as long as he 1091 01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:39,159 has them. John every time, I don't think. 1092 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, would you say Conrad that John Moxley is 1093 01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:44,239 the ace of a w. 1094 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:51,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would. I would give him that title absolutely. Yeah. 1095 01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:53,439 He delivers every time, whether you like him or not, 1096 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,399 he always finds a way to deliver. And I think 1097 01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,640 Tony was looking for we're not cool anymore? What is cool? 1098 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,199 And everybody went crazy for the I call it the 1099 01:11:03,239 --> 01:11:06,600 Avengers endgame finish at WrestleMania forty. He was like, well, 1100 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,279 we're gonna do the same thing, but we're gonna do 1101 01:11:08,319 --> 01:11:10,600 it our way, and we're gonna do it better than 1102 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,560 they did it because we have twist and turns with 1103 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,560 our people and characters with like the swerve, will Osprey 1104 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,079 helping him getting taken out like a lot of stuff. 1105 01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:23,920 Because when we got to double or Nothing, I loved 1106 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,760 that I didn't know who was gonna win between Will 1107 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,199 Ospray and Hangman, because in my mind, if you would 1108 01:11:28,199 --> 01:11:29,760 have asked me, probably a few weeks before, I'm like, 1109 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,880 it's Will Ospray all the way. You got to give 1110 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,039 this guy the title. But Hangman's story became so compelling 1111 01:11:35,079 --> 01:11:37,159 that I was like, you gotta do it. And then 1112 01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:40,560 Tony had an option, Let's go this way, and that's 1113 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,000 what he decided to do, and it probably played out 1114 01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:45,439 better because imagine if will was the champ, he gets hurt, 1115 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,159 you fall into that same thing. I just think that 1116 01:11:48,199 --> 01:11:50,359 he looked to see what was cool, who would be 1117 01:11:50,359 --> 01:11:52,319 able to execute this and do it right, and it 1118 01:11:52,399 --> 01:11:56,039 was Moxley. And maybe Moxley rambled sometimes and once again, 1119 01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:58,680 it wasn't pretty sometimes getting through B and C the 1120 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,640 title defenses and people getting suplexed on things. But Moxley 1121 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,840 always had you talking. His name was always mentioned on 1122 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,960 every podcast in the streets, and they found a way 1123 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,000 to make it work. 1124 01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I when I found so sorry. 1125 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,079 Speaker 2: Let me just make one point Jess, I agree with 1126 01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:18,960 you that John Moxley was always mentioned, but always wasn't 1127 01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:22,159 positive for sure. For sure, God, Jess. 1128 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Now. 1129 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,319 Speaker 3: I joined this podcast in the thick of between B 1130 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,039 and C, and I felt like sometimes I felt like 1131 01:12:33,079 --> 01:12:36,520 I was taking crazy pills because I was like the 1132 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:43,600 lone death writer apologist you were, because what I saw 1133 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:49,640 is basically a story of this is what happens when 1134 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,119 Batman gets tired of cleaning up everyone's messes. Not Superman. 1135 01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:58,920 Superman's too too goodie, too smooth edged. Max is Batman. 1136 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,239 He will get shit done, so it won't be pretty, 1137 01:13:02,279 --> 01:13:05,319 but he will always get shit done. But what happens 1138 01:13:05,319 --> 01:13:08,319 when he is sick of cleaning up every single disaster? 1139 01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:10,760 The Death Writers is what happened. 1140 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you remember during this podcast, I was 1141 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:20,880 having trouble even, you know, maintaining attention when the pod 1142 01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:23,840 when Death Writers came out, I was like, Okay, it's 1143 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,199 a death Writer's match. I'll just wait till the end 1144 01:13:27,239 --> 01:13:29,560 when everybody does the same thing that they've always done, 1145 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,600 is just attack and basically run. 1146 01:13:34,199 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 4: I think that was by design, though, because if everybody's 1147 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,800 feeling it when the bloodline does it, is that something 1148 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,199 that we need to do with our own twist on it. 1149 01:13:42,199 --> 01:13:45,439 It's I'm trying to think of other scenarios where other 1150 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,279 companies have done it. We've all seen it where like 1151 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,560 you know, someone's trying to be staying to take out 1152 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,479 the nWo and they may not say it's the same 1153 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,680 thing when they came up with nWo WWF came up 1154 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,479 with DX. All that stuff, to me follows a similar pattern. 1155 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,359 I think that's what AW is just trying to do. 1156 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,119 Like people like it over there, they gotta like it 1157 01:14:07,159 --> 01:14:09,560 over here. And sometimes that's a mistake to do that 1158 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,479 in my opinion too. 1159 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,239 Speaker 2: But to each I agree with you, that's a very 1160 01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:18,119 good point. My whole thing was is that. And I 1161 01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:21,880 understand Jess really really was the apologist for the Death Writer. 1162 01:14:22,039 --> 01:14:28,000 She was very much into itself. Guys like MK, we 1163 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,359 were like, just end it already, please, this is awful. 1164 01:14:31,399 --> 01:14:34,840 And I really did. I will one say, And it 1165 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,000 doesn't matter whether it being a hardcore AW fan, whether 1166 01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:40,640 I understood it or not. It was a simple fact 1167 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,319 that I didn't enjoy it. I didn't enjoy it at all. 1168 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,119 There wasn't a for the first two or three weeks. 1169 01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:49,000 Like I said, I liked it, and I like the 1170 01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:53,840 ending simply because it was the ending. Does anybody else 1171 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,479 have a potpourri that they want to bring up? 1172 01:14:56,319 --> 01:14:56,399 Speaker 1: All? 1173 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,239 Speaker 2: Right, then well that'll be the end of the show. 1174 01:14:58,319 --> 01:15:02,840 Then we'll be back again Tuesday night next week, eight 1175 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,079 forty five Eastern time. Right here, you can watch us 1176 01:15:07,119 --> 01:15:09,279 on x you can join us in the chat, you 1177 01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:12,439 can watch us on Twitch, and I am happy to 1178 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,319 announce for the first time next week it looks like 1179 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,439 we are going to be live on YouTube as well, 1180 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,479 finally after two and a half three months trying to 1181 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:31,640 get us done. So yes, so we will be live 1182 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,840 on YouTube as well. So that's look. Before we go, 1183 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:40,880 I did want to bring up something since Conrad is here, 1184 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:45,439 we have combined our two Discord servers very successfully, I 1185 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,319 may add, it's been so much fun. We are now 1186 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:57,880 at https forward slash forward slash, Discord dot gg forward 1187 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,880 slash epw UB. If you're watching this on x you 1188 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,680 can see the Discord link right there at the bottom 1189 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,600 of your screen. If you're listening to this on Spotify 1190 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:13,880 or Apple Podcast or whatnot, we will be putting the 1191 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:20,239 link in the podcast description. Please join us there also 1192 01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:25,600 with aw fan Hub in particular, you can follow us 1193 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,399 on x Instagram threads. Where else are we? Of course 1194 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:38,119 Reddit and YouTube? And where else? A blue sky Blue Sky. 1195 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,600 We are very close, very close to hitting one hundred 1196 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:50,840 thousand members in the aw fan Hub. Why should say 1197 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,439 the everything Pro Wrestling Hub community. Actually, we're probably over 1198 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,960 one hundred thousand members. I'm only counting the social media 1199 01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:04,880 platforms that I manage. Conrad manages. What do you have, Conrad? 1200 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,439 You have? You have break basically everything we do right? 1201 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? I have Instagram? Uh, you name it? I have it? 1202 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I should add? You? Your your 1203 01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:19,239 stuff into it? And what is If people are interested, 1204 01:17:19,359 --> 01:17:23,399 Conrad in joining your communities, how do they find you? 1205 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 4: Basically I've combined with you on Discord, So make sure 1206 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,319 that you guys go to uh what the link you 1207 01:17:31,359 --> 01:17:34,880 had said before? Discord dot gg slash, EPW hub. Don't 1208 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,479 forget to put the https in front of it, but 1209 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,439 I'm sure if you search it it'll pop up. You 1210 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,119 guys can follow me at EPW show. I'm on YouTube, 1211 01:17:44,359 --> 01:17:49,479 I'm on uh, Instagram, you name it, blue sky, all 1212 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,239 of them. EPW show is probably the best way to 1213 01:17:52,279 --> 01:17:54,560 follow me. You guys can come on over and then 1214 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,800 we'll talk some pro wrestling. Man, it's fun. 1215 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:02,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you do WWE podcast as well, correct. 1216 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,560 Speaker 4: I do those as well. I actually have a plan 1217 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,159 New Japan special. No one knows that yet, but I'm 1218 01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:09,439 working on something for New Japan this week as well. 1219 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,800 I try to talk. I try to talk everything as 1220 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,199 much as I can, so. 1221 01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:20,399 Speaker 1: I will talk New Japan. I will be more than 1222 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,159 if you need someone, if you. 1223 01:18:22,319 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 2: Will that be? Will that be on YouTube? 1224 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:24,680 Speaker 3: Uh? 1225 01:18:25,239 --> 01:18:26,359 Speaker 2: Conrad? Yeah? 1226 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,039 Speaker 4: Yeah. The the plan is it's gonna be more so 1227 01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:31,960 about Tanahashi for this one, but I might I might 1228 01:18:32,039 --> 01:18:34,640 run down the card too for the show if if 1229 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,039 my guy can make it, who I have planned for it. 1230 01:18:37,319 --> 01:18:38,960 He's he's busy right now at work. 1231 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:45,119 Speaker 2: Well, Chris is a New Japan junkie, my guys, and 1232 01:18:45,159 --> 01:18:49,039 he can he can speak. He can speak very semi 1233 01:18:49,079 --> 01:18:55,199 intelligence semi intelligently about But if you are just going 1234 01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:59,760 on the YouTube for ep uh E p W show, 1235 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,680 they are really good in the chat. If you chat 1236 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:09,520 with them, they're really good. But I'm so impressed by 1237 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,199 how you do it too. You give shout outs constantly 1238 01:19:14,319 --> 01:19:21,079 and interact with your audience so well and I appreciate. 1239 01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:24,800 I mean, when I'm there, you always, you know, talk 1240 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,880 to me and other people. Anybody that has a comment, 1241 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,840 you pretty much address all of them. I don't know 1242 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,880 how you do it, but it's really cool. 1243 01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:36,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the difference I tried to make with 1244 01:19:36,399 --> 01:19:39,359 my show compared to other people's. Is the interactive element 1245 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,199 for it. I think it's key because a lot of 1246 01:19:42,199 --> 01:19:44,159 people will send super chats. You don't get your super 1247 01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:46,439 chat read to the end of people's podcast when there's 1248 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,560 a lot of people. And I always tell people, one 1249 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,319 day it may get to that point, but if not, 1250 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,399 I mean, if you guys throw something in there, I'll 1251 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,239 talk about it for a second. I can't. I tell 1252 01:19:55,279 --> 01:19:57,399 people some weeks like hey, I can't get to every comment, 1253 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,439 but I do try to at least acknowledge them if 1254 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,520 it's with it the topic. While we're talking about I 1255 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,800 try to go in order of the show. 1256 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you do a fantastic job over there. 1257 01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:09,359 Your podcast are so well put together. Thank you. You 1258 01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:12,840 guys do great. It's very I wish I could stay longer, 1259 01:20:14,319 --> 01:20:19,159 but unfortunately I can't. Those those days off that I 1260 01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:23,399 have from our podcast are kind of premium time. For 1261 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,920 me to spend with my family and friends and always 1262 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,600 have something going on. But every time i'm there for 1263 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,159 I try. I try to stay for a good fifteen 1264 01:20:32,199 --> 01:20:37,239 twenty minutes in your podcast, and they're very, very good, 1265 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,760 and I am really looking forward to hearing your your fun. 1266 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:46,520 You're gonna be doing a what Conrad tomorrow night when 1267 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,600 you do your pot You're doing a podcast for AW 1268 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:53,720 tomorrow night for the Holidays, New Year's Spash post show. 1269 01:20:54,199 --> 01:20:57,000 When do you begin the podcast? Does it begin during 1270 01:20:57,039 --> 01:20:59,680 the show or does it begin right after the show? 1271 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,600 Speaker 4: Usually right after, so the moment the show ends, I 1272 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,359 am trying to get to the restroom if I need 1273 01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:07,920 to grab a drink, water or something so that I 1274 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,880 could talk about it, and then I try to breeze 1275 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,279 through it. I've been trying to make them like under 1276 01:21:11,279 --> 01:21:13,600 an hour for people if I can. Some weeks, the 1277 01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,239 shows are so long that's not going to happen. If 1278 01:21:16,239 --> 01:21:18,239 it's a three hour show, I usually move it to 1279 01:21:18,319 --> 01:21:20,600 like Thursday, so that way I could cover it in full. 1280 01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:23,119 Speaker 1: So it's. 1281 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:33,279 Speaker 2: We stop doing our aw Fanta podcast because you guys 1282 01:21:33,359 --> 01:21:37,079 just knocking out of the park every week. And and 1283 01:21:37,119 --> 01:21:40,600 I don't mean that as any kind of I'm not 1284 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,079 upset about it. I just I think it's fantastic. Yet. 1285 01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:48,840 You guys do a fantastic job. And I do encourage 1286 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:54,479 everybody to go listen to EPW show on YouTube and 1287 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,279 chat away because like I said, if you chat, they're 1288 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,279 more than life going to address you if they can 1289 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,439 so appreciate the shout. You not a problem. 1290 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,199 Speaker 4: I've been a long time listener, first time guests, so 1291 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,039 well everybody. 1292 01:22:12,319 --> 01:22:15,039 Speaker 2: That's the thing about That's the thing about this community. 1293 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,640 We can have up to ten podcasters on these shows, 1294 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:26,960 and we encourage participation. So anybody that's listening, if you 1295 01:22:27,039 --> 01:22:30,039 want to be a part of this podcast. We are 1296 01:22:30,079 --> 01:22:36,000 not professionals, obviously, but we just want to have fun. 1297 01:22:36,079 --> 01:22:40,199 We are hardcore AW fans talking about AW. You don't 1298 01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:43,239 have to be a hardcore AW fan if you want 1299 01:22:43,279 --> 01:22:45,960 to participate in these podcasts, all you have to do 1300 01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:51,119 is join our discord, contact Kelson and say hey, I 1301 01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:53,960 want to be a part of the podcast. I'll talk 1302 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,279 to you on voice chat to make sure that you're 1303 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,840 you know your equipment. I mean a lot of people 1304 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,319 just use their phones. That's fine, but we want to 1305 01:23:04,359 --> 01:23:06,399 make sure that we can understand you, and then other 1306 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:11,880 than that, you're in So join us because we have 1307 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,359 a revolving door of people that come into the Pack 1308 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,520 podcast every week. And that's what this community is about, 1309 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,880 is community participation. And I think Conrad, we'll agree with 1310 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,479 that based on what we've done on Discord Together, because 1311 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,720 that is a hop and discord. 1312 01:23:30,199 --> 01:23:30,720 Speaker 4: That's for sure. 1313 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:30,920 Speaker 2: Man. 1314 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,279 Speaker 4: I love having fans and fans talk and wrestling. I 1315 01:23:33,319 --> 01:23:36,680 think it's where you get the truest and realist forms 1316 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:37,439 of how people feel. 1317 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,720 Speaker 2: All right, then, so forty a w fan podcast team. 1318 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,039 This is Kelson, good night, everybody. 1319 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,199 Speaker 3: Good night Eddie Kingston. 1320 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:48,079 Speaker 1: I don't know that