Speaker 1: Well, that didn't work as I intended. But Hi, everybody, welcome.
Speaker 1: It's Game Last Mornings. It's gonna be a heck of
Speaker 1: a show. Jan's app but we're figuring it out. I'm
Speaker 1: Jeff Greb, your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank
Speaker 1: you for tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about a plenty of news, including PlayStation fans raging
Speaker 1: over video games going elsewhere. It's gonna be a good
Speaker 1: one because we have Jesse Norris on the show. Jesse,
Speaker 1: how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm goooning, Jeff, how you doing?
Speaker 1: You know it it is? You got in some heat
Speaker 1: with those fans. I didn't even know. I didn't know
Speaker 1: who Chong was for the good or audience. I hadn't
Speaker 1: paid that much, okay, and you pointed that out and
Speaker 1: they didn't like it.
Speaker 2: It's got a whole transmog system. And by the end
Speaker 2: of the game, I had three different panties. I had
Speaker 2: a couple of bras, and you can just wear those
Speaker 2: if you want, Like, you can still have all your
Speaker 2: ads and do anything you want. But you can look
Speaker 2: super cool, you can look naked, you can look weird
Speaker 2: as shit. It's got it all okay at a giant
Speaker 2: clam head where the eyeball was the pearl.
Speaker 1: I like the sound of that. That sounds fine, nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with it. People should sho yeah, and you you
Speaker 1: liked wuchog that I loved it. Yeah, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: you know, if it's another sort of souls like.
Speaker 2: Right, and they are they are not shy. It is
Speaker 2: one hundred percent a souls like they call it ve
Speaker 2: like there. It is that genre with their own twists
Speaker 2: on it for the combat and stuff.
Speaker 1: What made this one work for you?
Speaker 2: It's insanely well balanced, and I know a lot of
Speaker 2: people have been saying it's really hard, but it is
Speaker 2: a game that is super focused on very quickly respecting
Speaker 2: to match an area, so you can at any point
Speaker 2: just go into the enormous talent try press X on
Speaker 2: a node and everything after that you get everything back,
Speaker 2: including like your weapon, upgrade parts and all of that,
Speaker 2: jump to a completely different weapon that works better for
Speaker 2: this area or fight. And just if you don't do that,
Speaker 2: it's super hard, but if you do. Incredibly well balanced
Speaker 2: while still being very difficult, has a super cool story
Speaker 2: with an incredibly difficult to get proper ending that you
Speaker 2: can only get a New Game Plus, but in this one,
Speaker 2: you're so goddamn powerful new Game Plus that I was
Speaker 2: flying through the game the second time. Yeah, it just
Speaker 2: it hits. It ticks every box to the point where
Speaker 2: as someone who absolutely adored Liza p I think it's
Speaker 2: just a little better because it's a little better balanced
Speaker 2: at launch where they haven't actually had to go back
Speaker 2: and change anything.
Speaker 1: Very okay, cool to hear. I beat Donkey Kong Binance
Speaker 1: over the weekend. That was a good game, really fun ending,
Speaker 1: really recommend people, you know, see it through a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of cool stuff in that game. Now I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, what's the plan of attack for the rest
Speaker 1: of the year, Like, what's the plan of attack for
Speaker 1: like taking on the getting caught up on games. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm Expedition thirty three. That's it. I'm going back to that.
Speaker 1: That's that's the move over here for me. YouTube is
Speaker 1: a new stream. I did YouTube not go to the
Speaker 1: right thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it started, it's different. I was on the other one.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's still not live, but it
Speaker 2: is it is a live when there's two hundred people there.
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. Yes, it might have been the
Speaker 1: wrong thing was hooked into restream everybody, So sorry about that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully let everyone know ahead over there, all right, good deal? Yes,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely I'm gonna probably start up Expedition. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue Expedition thirty three. I'm about five hours
Speaker 1: into that game.
Speaker 2: It got absolutely amazing title.
Speaker 1: Everyone just seems to really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: So I eat it three weeks before release an embargo,
Speaker 2: and so I had like a full month of not
Speaker 2: really being able to talk to anyone about that game,
Speaker 2: and it told me insane because the story is so good.
Speaker 2: So it has been very nice to feel a little validated,
Speaker 2: because you never know, a lot of people are always like, hey,
Speaker 2: you're just all given the same scores, or they get
Speaker 2: very mad if you're an outlier yep, hire, or and
Speaker 2: like do you just want everyone to feel the exact
Speaker 2: same way? I don't understand, but yeah, on that one
Speaker 2: was like, I absolutely love and adore this and think
Speaker 2: it's amazing, And it felt a little validating to then see,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, pretty much everyone else has as well.
Speaker 1: Yep. That's one that just seems universally appreciated.
Speaker 2: Written by a venture capitalist who just was like, I
Speaker 2: want to do voice acting, and then was like I
Speaker 2: also like writing yeah, and then wrote one of my
Speaker 2: favorite stories.
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Speaker 1: have a lot to get into, so let's start the
Speaker 1: morning mess with PlayStation fans rage over Sony's new multi
Speaker 1: platform focus. This is from Martin Carlson at Game Reactor.
Speaker 2: Where have we seen this before?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, it's I feel like it's a rerun, but
Speaker 1: all the characters are different. The era when games were
Speaker 1: exclusive to their format is now a concept that is
Speaker 1: increasingly living on borrow time. Microsoft has loosened the reins
Speaker 1: and made a big splash with Fortsa Horizon five on
Speaker 1: PlayStation five, which is reportedly the best selling game of
Speaker 1: the year for the platform, and in August It's Time
Speaker 1: for Gears reloaded, adjoining the PlayStation five roster as well,
Speaker 1: which was once considered completely unthinkable. Sony, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: has been more restrained around its own brands, but launched
Speaker 1: Lego Horizon Adventures on the same day for PC, PlayStation
Speaker 1: and Switch, something that may now change as it intends
Speaker 1: to appoint a new position within the company with a
Speaker 1: focus on multi platform. So that's the story here, right,
Speaker 1: that's someone There's a job posting from PlayStation saying we
Speaker 1: need someone who can help us really figure out our
Speaker 1: multi platform strategy. That seems to be the bulk of
Speaker 1: like what the language around there. I don't know if
Speaker 1: there are any more details I looked. I didn't see
Speaker 1: much else.
Speaker 2: Now it's pretty much just like job description mentions Xbox
Speaker 2: PC switch. It mentions Xbox more than Switch, which of
Speaker 2: course has gotten that fan base all, you know, And
Speaker 2: it is a full slate, and it's like it'll never
Speaker 2: be the full slate from anyone everywhere. That doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: It's too expensive and not everything's going to sell. But yeah,
Speaker 2: when especially with hell Diver's Marathon coming, who knows about
Speaker 2: fair games, that game will probably need to be everywhere
Speaker 2: if it wants to succeed. And they talk a lot
Speaker 2: about their mid year strategy, which is it's not going
Speaker 2: to be day one, but three to five years down
Speaker 2: the line, when games are not selling anymore, how can
Speaker 2: we make more money off of these? And a cheap
Speaker 2: port is easier than a remaster, it's easier than anything
Speaker 2: to just hey, these are all PCs, especially next gen
Speaker 2: Xbox's whole and deb environment is literally just going to
Speaker 2: be PC. Let's get it over there, get a bunch
Speaker 2: more sales. It won't hurt our platform because it's already
Speaker 2: stopped selling there, so why not. But it's not gonna
Speaker 2: be everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like on this show and
Speaker 1: in conversations that we've had and just elsewhere, this is
Speaker 1: old news at this point, Like we've said for a
Speaker 1: long time, PlayStation is also going to have to keep
Speaker 1: moving in this direction because that they've been looking for growth,
Speaker 1: and we know they've been looking for growth because they've
Speaker 1: said as much, and they've tried a bunch of strategies
Speaker 1: specifically to grow. Like it's a successful company. PlayStation undersell me.
Speaker 1: It makes a lot of money. They want to make
Speaker 1: even more. And the plann was live service games, and
Speaker 1: we've talked this to death. That didn't work, So what
Speaker 1: else can they do? The obvious thing here is well,
Speaker 1: what like the hang ups about putting games elsewhere before
Speaker 1: seem to have vanished or don't matter anymore at the
Speaker 1: very least, And we can make a lot more money
Speaker 1: if we do that. It's working for Microsoft. We sort
Speaker 1: of can't leave that money on the table for PlayStations
Speaker 1: because we need to grow from somewhere and there are
Speaker 1: people over on Nintendo's consoles. There are people on Xbox
Speaker 1: consoles who will buy our games now.
Speaker 2: It's the kind of realizing And I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people who play games and even cover games don't
Speaker 2: really like the exclusives sell Nintendo platforms. They don't sell
Speaker 2: other platforms anywhere near as much. It's not that they can't.
Speaker 2: It might be the thing that gets you to upgrade
Speaker 2: and stay in the ecosystem. It's like, Okay, I'm finally
Speaker 2: gonna get PS five because it's got returnal and I
Speaker 2: really like how smart games like. There might be people
Speaker 2: like that, but they're not gonna they don't jump between
Speaker 2: the platforms anymore. They're not dropping their library and going elsewhere.
Speaker 2: They might also get a system if they didn't have
Speaker 2: it already, but they're not leaving. And so the bad
Speaker 2: part of not having exclusives is a lot less than
Speaker 2: it used to be, where even like PlayStation is fifty
Speaker 2: percent micro transaction field and that's not their games. Generally.
Speaker 2: They are fully reliant on being the default third party.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what their strength has always been. And
Speaker 2: I know, like the exclusives really pushed us and the
Speaker 2: Game of the Year talk and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: Because it's it's super interesting when you're in this hardcore
Speaker 2: Niche yeah, but as Matt Piscatella says all the time,
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of gamer is by one maybe two
Speaker 2: a year, and if you're above that, you're in this
Speaker 2: little tiny portion of the actual audience. And so they
Speaker 2: just need to get every little bit of that small
Speaker 2: portion now because it's not like everyone's super successful. Everyone's
Speaker 2: making a ton of money, which makes all the firings
Speaker 2: that much more annoying. They're just looking to grow. They
Speaker 2: just needed to go up. That's the entire system, and
Speaker 2: this is one of the only real ways left.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, I was talking to Mike
Speaker 1: about it, and he's like, you know, I think if
Speaker 1: like a series of exclusives can still sway people to
Speaker 1: like purchase a system. And even in that case, he said,
Speaker 1: and I think you were kind of saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: No one's leaving their home base. No one's leaving their
Speaker 1: home platform and leaving behind the twenty years of games
Speaker 1: that they've purchased at this point that all work on
Speaker 1: these consoles to one degree or another. And even in
Speaker 1: that case, it's like, okay, well that's let's say, that's
Speaker 1: your strategy. That's big, expensive and risky, and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're still leaving that money that
Speaker 1: you could be making from the other consoles on the table,
Speaker 1: and they're just not going to do that anymore. So
Speaker 1: the audience sort of freaking out about this is I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you said we saw it before, or what
Speaker 1: happened when this happened with Xbox, people screamed and shouted
Speaker 1: and nothing changed and here we are anyhow, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were doing the it's an experiment of four.
Speaker 2: The experiment was extremely successful, and so they started doing
Speaker 2: a lot more, or they continued doing the things that
Speaker 2: they were already doing in the background and didn't cancel them.
Speaker 2: It's it's just a very the industry changed a while ago,
Speaker 2: and these companies are very big and games take a
Speaker 2: long time to make, and so now we're seeing the
Speaker 2: shifts more publicly that had happened internally a while ago,
Speaker 2: like Sony shifted to mus as their growth thing, Microsoft
Speaker 2: shifted to it. Because everyone's in a war for your
Speaker 2: attention span more than anything. So it's, uh, it's weird.
Speaker 1: It I think there's one aspect about it though, that
Speaker 1: that is like, I understand why some people get upset
Speaker 1: a little bit, and that's because these console companies still
Speaker 1: act in a lot of ways like they are your
Speaker 1: like exclusive relationship, and they are like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: you get all these benefits if you come into our ecosystem,
Speaker 1: which is why you have to pay for online and
Speaker 1: that's why. And you know, we've kind of bundled a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff in this online package, so actually you're
Speaker 1: probably gonna want to pay. You know. I got the
Speaker 1: bill for PlayStation Plus Premium the other day, one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy dollars for annually, and I was just, holy crap.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I kind of want to just do this
Speaker 1: because to make sure I still have online for playing
Speaker 1: PlayStation Network games. But I guess I should. I'm just
Speaker 1: going to cancel and I'll go look at the other thing.
Speaker 1: And they're still like, hey, we provide all these upsides
Speaker 1: to you coming to us, and so people are like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll buy into that, we'll have a relationship with you,
Speaker 1: but you have to make us feel special if we're
Speaker 1: going to spend all this extra money on your online
Speaker 1: service and really a lot of money on your console
Speaker 1: up front. You got to make us feel cool about that,
Speaker 1: make it feel like you are paying extra attention to us.
Speaker 1: And then this makes it feel like, oh no, that's
Speaker 1: not real, which of course it never was real. It
Speaker 1: was always It's always been a strategy. You always been
Speaker 1: a business strategy, and so people kind of reacting to
Speaker 1: that and feeling like, oh, man, I wasted all this
Speaker 1: money or whatever. I spent all this money and I
Speaker 1: thought I had something special and I didn't. I get that,
Speaker 1: but also like you were fooled by a marketing tactic.
Speaker 2: So it was always silly, like you're not special for
Speaker 2: buying into something. You might be a group in a
Speaker 2: community and you have friends and all that type of stuff,
Speaker 2: but with everything pretty much always just comes down to
Speaker 2: list warring, and this ends list warring essentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw some like PlayStation accounts do the thing
Speaker 1: that some Xbox accounts did on social media, being like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm unbranding myself from PlayStation going all in on PC.
Speaker 1: I guess the Xbox guys rebranded to PlayStation. The PlayStation
Speaker 1: guys are rebranding to PC, and hey, more power to you.
Speaker 1: You got to get out there do your thing, guys.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, it is a momentary pain that isn't even real,
Speaker 1: that's all just in your head. And more people playing
Speaker 1: these games is actually going to be better for games overall, all, right,
Speaker 1: same side or same coin, different side. Gears of for Eeday,
Speaker 1: and State of d K three are all are coming
Speaker 1: to PlayStation three or excuse me, PlayStation five. According to rumors,
Speaker 1: I like they're really going to scale these babies down.
Speaker 1: From Alex Hopley at Game Reactor, Gears of War e
Speaker 1: eday And stated K three looks to be look to
Speaker 1: be set to join the upcoming list of PlayStation five
Speaker 1: games from Xbox. For a while now, Xbox has been
Speaker 1: delivering its exclusives on PlayStation, from Indiana Jones in The
Speaker 1: Great Circle to Forts the Horizon five. The expectation is
Speaker 1: growing that soon after an Xbox first party title releases,
Speaker 1: it'll come to other platforms now. A report from MP
Speaker 1: First points to Gears of War e eday And stated
Speaker 1: d K three coming to PlayStation as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's War with the reloaded coming to PlayStation. It always
Speaker 1: felt it was like it was leading to this, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Everything they do that is like online multiplayer focus
Speaker 2: just makes sense. Yeah, I don't think State of K
Speaker 2: two really had micro actions. I'm guessing three will. Gears
Speaker 2: of War always has multiplayer stuff, which will be very
Speaker 2: big in Mexico, like always. So yeah, like pretty much
Speaker 2: anything they didn't do a vow, they'd haven't done South
Speaker 2: of mid Night they sell them, like Starfield and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, where I do think that eventually they will,
Speaker 2: but always case by case on what makes the most sense.
Speaker 2: Who can do it themselves versus who do we have
Speaker 2: to pay to get to do it? Like Ports Horizon
Speaker 2: five made sense to pay Panic Button to do it
Speaker 2: because they probably made that money back like twenty times
Speaker 2: over now. So a lot of times it's just the
Speaker 2: bandwidth on the team internally, like we see with Sony,
Speaker 2: they bought Nexus just to really try and help them
Speaker 2: be able to get more stuff to more places, and
Speaker 2: it's worked really well. So yeah, I would expect pretty
Speaker 2: much any big multiplayer game they have. The next Halo
Speaker 2: multiplayer that hits could be everywhere because people still people
Speaker 2: who love Halo Infinite and still play it a lot,
Speaker 2: are begging for it to come out on PlayStation so
Speaker 2: that they can have an infusion of new players.
Speaker 1: So let's not worry about the power or the porting
Speaker 1: or any of those pains that would be for developers
Speaker 1: to figure out. What do you think makes sense for
Speaker 1: Xbox to bring to switch To? Is it just all
Speaker 1: everything they possibly can or there's some games that I like,
Speaker 1: would Forts Horizon five also kill on switch To?
Speaker 2: I'm curious switch To hasn't been like an enormous social game,
Speaker 2: but they got Minecraft on there. That's like Nintendo pretty
Speaker 2: much sees Minecraft as like first Party. It's so big
Speaker 2: over there. I'm curious anything I think that's more Arcadie
Speaker 2: and less shooty murdery like Forts. The Horizon five makes
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. See a Thieves, even where it's
Speaker 2: a cartoony violence. I do think that you've got the
Speaker 2: built in kid audience there. If they do ever do
Speaker 2: New Banjo or anything like that. I think those types
Speaker 2: of games keeper from a double Fine oh sure, who
Speaker 2: have experience publishing all over the place. Like I think
Speaker 2: those games make a lot of sense. I don't know
Speaker 2: that like, uh, well, they're definitely gonna do Call of
Speaker 2: Duty because that's just is a given. They'll figure out
Speaker 2: some way to get some form of call of Duty
Speaker 2: on there, because they signed a contract saying they would.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, I think they'd probably focus on the
Speaker 2: things they have that are seen as like more family
Speaker 2: friendly first, and like everyone else, they seem to be
Speaker 2: waiting on dev kits.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, I think that MICROSOFTOMST certainly didn't get deaf
Speaker 1: kits early, right, because Nintendo would be like, it's almost yeah,
Speaker 1: well like even that kids like, we're friendly, but we're
Speaker 1: not that fround. I'm gonna give you this stuff early.
Speaker 1: We don't trust you that much. Yeah. I think that
Speaker 1: we have people point out the lack of analog triggers
Speaker 1: for switch to would make forts Horison five a pain,
Speaker 1: And yeah that's right, man. Sports of games with those
Speaker 1: triggers and the four feedback end the triggers feel so good.
Speaker 1: It's man, it's a bummer. Wish that thing had analog triggers.
Speaker 1: Me too. Let's see here. Uh okay, so e Day
Speaker 1: stated K three. I mean we haven't seen much of
Speaker 1: these games in a while. Do you think when they
Speaker 1: get when they reappear, when they get re announced, reintroduced
Speaker 1: during Pear's Where Egg they follow it up, do they
Speaker 1: talk about PlayStation at that point or is this something.
Speaker 2: I think they'll they'll talk about the game, they'll say
Speaker 2: it's play anywhere down with game Pass, and then when
Speaker 2: all the things come up, it'll just have a PS
Speaker 2: five logo.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think kind of like the point now, the
Speaker 1: Indiana strategy, right, what they did with the Indiana Jones
Speaker 1: will probably kind of apply.
Speaker 2: Go not giving it to Jeff opening Night Live and
Speaker 2: having him do one last thing that really pisses off
Speaker 2: their fan base. Yeah, that was outside of that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they're just at the point now where it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: it's all going to be here, but if you buy
Speaker 2: it from us, you get it in your PC as well,
Speaker 2: if you have that, or if you sign up for
Speaker 2: game Pass, like dozens of millions of people do. But
Speaker 2: it's also the same thing with PS plus Premium. They're
Speaker 2: like more people are signing up for PS plus Premium
Speaker 2: than ever. Like when money gets tight, people are going
Speaker 2: to start shifting to subscriptions more than eighty dollars games
Speaker 2: Like it seems the next Battlefield.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Sega Atlas leaker teases Persona three reload appearing in Nintendo Direct.
Speaker 1: This is from my Nintendo News. The inevitable appears to
Speaker 1: be happening in that Sega Atlas is preparing to release
Speaker 1: the excellent Persona three reload for the Nintendo Switch to
Speaker 1: The news comes courtesy of Reset Era member Lola La.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say that name, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna try. That would be easier to say the this,
Speaker 1: who apparently has an excellent track record when it comes
Speaker 1: to Sega Atlas leaks Persona three reload, launched back in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four four PS five, Xbox and PC. The
Speaker 1: news is that the game will feature in the next
Speaker 1: Nintendo Direct presentation and will presumably launch later this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was this year.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: So I would be surprised, I'm I'm not. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised if it was there, But I remember when
Speaker 2: it came out like it didn't feel close when it
Speaker 2: was shown at the Xbox Show. People were Then news
Speaker 2: came out that it might not be that close because
Speaker 2: especially they've done so much lately, and that one is
Speaker 2: a full remake from the.
Speaker 1: Ground up type this is Persona, this is Persona three reload.
Speaker 1: This is the one that is already. Is that? Are you?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, I was thinking of four.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know I got in like a three load
Speaker 1: and honestly like not impossible that that could pop up
Speaker 1: somewhere like a Nintendo Direct. But I think they'll probably
Speaker 1: in Persona three reload first, get that out later this year.
Speaker 2: And then forgot that wasn't on switch already.
Speaker 1: Yep, not on switch. The probably would have been a
Speaker 1: little rough on Switch one maybe before. That's never stopped
Speaker 1: in when you're right, Sega Atlas. With the Persona games,
Speaker 1: they do seem to want to like act quicker than
Speaker 1: they have in the past, Get a project done, get
Speaker 1: it everywhere, don't take ten years to do that. So yes,
Speaker 1: this is probably right. That Nintendo direct sounds more and
Speaker 1: more plausible for this week. I mean they could announce
Speaker 1: it either day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they always announced it, like what a day or
Speaker 2: two beforehand sometimes if it's not a huge.
Speaker 1: One, most two days before if it's not something massive massive. Yes,
Speaker 1: although they've done day before and they've done where they
Speaker 1: didn't announce it at all and that was a direct.
Speaker 1: Any we have no idea what's gonna be, but it
Speaker 1: feels like they should have, you know, if it's Persona
Speaker 1: three reload and this the rumor is like this is
Speaker 1: where maybe Microsoft shows up with something at this point,
Speaker 1: and we got to get dates for Metro Prime four
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other stuff. That seems like a
Speaker 1: pretty big direct to me.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the consoles sold a pajillion. Now they just
Speaker 2: need to just keep giving new reasons for their hardcore
Speaker 2: to keep spending.
Speaker 1: And they just put out the Mario Party DLC, which
Speaker 1: has turned people away, scared everyone off twenty dollars for.
Speaker 2: This online it's offline only for like the Bowser TV
Speaker 2: moto said about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we noticed, we did our stream and we were
Speaker 1: trying to do it, and we went to the support
Speaker 1: page and it's like, no, you can play this online
Speaker 1: on the Nintendo support page, and that's not right, that's
Speaker 1: not accurate. Although I did it, I did actually really
Speaker 1: like the camera popping up in regular Mario Party. That's
Speaker 1: a good way to play that game. Yep, Okay, so
Speaker 1: direct probably this week. I feel pretty good about that.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping, really, all I need is the Metroid Prime
Speaker 1: for release date. Give me that and I will be satisfied.
Speaker 1: But I'm also hoping for some surprises, things that we
Speaker 1: weren't expecting. There's you know, this Persona three reload that
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. I do think the timing
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. For Animal Crossing. There has
Speaker 1: been some rumors for that, although there's also been rumors
Speaker 1: to be like, no, that's not gonna happen, so that's
Speaker 1: gone back and forth. I'm just like, I don't need
Speaker 1: a ton of new games. Just give me like one
Speaker 1: maybe smaller surprise for later this year, and I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna have really so direct.
Speaker 2: There's so much coming out already as is, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: one of the bigger things they announced Portland's four for
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 1: Yes, Portland's four, and that's that's gonna be like a
Speaker 1: week or two weeks after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like there's already enough big game. I think
Speaker 2: that's one of the main things that we always end
Speaker 2: up focusing on first party, especially with Nintendo, because they've
Speaker 2: had so many amazing games ever the years. But as
Speaker 2: an actual platform, every single platform has way more games
Speaker 2: than any one person could ever play in a lifetime
Speaker 2: just coming out over the next year or two.
Speaker 1: Uh, what do you think if Halo comes to switch
Speaker 1: to what form do you think it takes? Because we
Speaker 1: were talking about the last thing. Oh yeah, of War
Speaker 1: and State of the K three coming and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Halo still hasn't made the leap yet, but
Speaker 1: if it does, the Master Chief collection feels obvious on
Speaker 1: one side, but on the other side, that relies on
Speaker 1: the backward compatibility that they've done a lot of work
Speaker 1: for on Xbox in some ways, and like, I don't I.
Speaker 2: Just don't PC version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: It's really big. It's like one hundred and fifty gigs
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have micro transactions, so it could. But
Speaker 2: if they're always ROI focused, then just Halo Infinites multiplayer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: makes sense because that's the works on Xbox One. That's
Speaker 2: gonna work fine on a switch. You would imagine. It's
Speaker 2: never plug and play. It's never easy to code anything.
Speaker 2: But when you're looking at what can I port and
Speaker 2: make more money off of, it's gonna generally be the
Speaker 2: newer thing with micro transactions.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, any and I wouldn't. I wouldn't hate
Speaker 1: Infinite getting another chance to shine.
Speaker 2: I like that game a lot, Infinite in the state
Speaker 2: it's in and has for two years that was launch.
Speaker 2: That eighty seven would have been an eighty nine and
Speaker 2: people would still have loved it. It just took way
Speaker 2: too long to fix it up.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely all right. Hollow Knight's Silk Song will be
Speaker 1: playable next month that games come. This is from Oisten Kunke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know I'm saying that name wrong
Speaker 1: at GameSpot. No, there's still no proper release date in
Speaker 1: sight for Hollow Knight's Silk Song, but European players will
Speaker 1: soon get the opportunity to find out for themselves if
Speaker 1: the elusive Metroid Vinga is actually real or not. Xbox
Speaker 1: has released its lineup for games. It will be showing
Speaker 1: off during this year's games Com, held between August twentieth
Speaker 1: and the twenty fourth, where sure that Attende's will be
Speaker 1: able to try out upcoming rog Xbox ally or the
Speaker 1: rog Xbox ally x well. The handhelds will include games
Speaker 1: like Roadblocks Cfieves to try out Box Yes, Roadblocks, that's right,
Speaker 1: and a demo for Hollow Knight's Silk Song is the
Speaker 1: big one here that will likely draw some big cues.
Speaker 1: You're going there, You're gonna go line up right now.
Speaker 2: We don't have to line up. One of us gets
Speaker 2: to go in early with all the press, but it
Speaker 2: seems like there's so many more press going this year.
Speaker 2: Last year we had three spots in the just go
Speaker 2: early and check everything out. This year we got one.
Speaker 2: So our editor in chief John will be going, creator
Speaker 2: of There, I'll throw this one in for one cheap plug.
Speaker 2: Creator of Console Wars, the card game. He'll be going.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because he has zero interest in Hold Night,
Speaker 2: So I don't even know ifoo bother looking at it.
Speaker 2: Of course I will try, but I'm guessing their booth
Speaker 2: is the far and away the biggest. Last year, it'll
Speaker 2: probably be similar to that again this year, though I
Speaker 2: am curious. Last year they had like fifty games. This
Speaker 2: year they have twenty. But I'm hoping that means they
Speaker 2: have a bunch for each game in the same space
Speaker 2: instead of one or two for the fifty games spread
Speaker 2: out all over the place, because it made it a
Speaker 2: lot harder to see anything. Yeah, I am excited. I
Speaker 2: think games calling is Colown's an amazing city paint in
Speaker 2: the ass to get to Amazing City games calm is
Speaker 2: huge and as long as you're there, is press very
Speaker 2: fun because you get to do a bunch of like, right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go here and look at this at this time,
Speaker 2: and not I'm going to stand in line for three
Speaker 2: hours and then get to play this for twenty minutes. Yep,
Speaker 2: pipe of stuff. But still it's a hell of an experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this will be the first time that Hollow
Speaker 1: Night's been playable since Mike Minatti played it at an
Speaker 1: E three or a GDC seven years ago, maybe longer.
Speaker 1: It's in that range. It's been a very long time. Uh,
Speaker 1: you were joking before, like, eh, maybe it'll be the
Speaker 1: same demo that he played, and they haven't actually updated anything.
Speaker 1: That'd be funny. I'm very curious to like to actually
Speaker 1: see people compare and contrast and see what's happened over
Speaker 1: that time. I get the sense that like a lot
Speaker 1: of the improvements that they've probably have been spending years
Speaker 1: on are like actual refinements and just trying to get
Speaker 1: this game perfect. Because one, they could spend the time
Speaker 1: because how and I continues to sell and I'm sure
Speaker 1: that it's able to fund the team to a certain degree.
Speaker 2: It's been in game pass forever, so I probably still
Speaker 2: can keep getting money from.
Speaker 1: That, right. And then two, they just had such a
Speaker 1: positive reaction to the first game, they want to follow
Speaker 1: that up and make it just make it have a
Speaker 1: similar reception, and that's got to be very challenging, very difficult.
Speaker 1: But I'm looking to see what people say once they
Speaker 1: finally get their hands on it. This game's coming out
Speaker 1: this year, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said in June at the Xbox saying it'll
Speaker 2: be out when the Allies out, and the Allies out
Speaker 2: in October or November. It's going to be out one
Speaker 2: of those months. So before I think I said before
Speaker 2: Winter is like the only thing we got from Team Jerry.
Speaker 2: I'll let you know, if I am able to get
Speaker 2: my hands on it. I enjoyed the first one. I
Speaker 2: remember their Void edition had like fifty almost fifty bosses.
Speaker 2: Maybe this one has one hundred and fifty. And that's
Speaker 2: why it's taking so long.
Speaker 1: You know, it might be Yeah, probably, I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: what it is. Okay, Yeah, I'm like I said, looking
Speaker 1: forward to see what people say.
Speaker 2: It was February twenty nineteen. I looked it up when
Speaker 2: I wrote the news earlier February twenty nineteen when this
Speaker 2: was announced.
Speaker 1: Man, that's great, okay, so yes, So then six or
Speaker 1: six years ago it is like probably when Mike was
Speaker 1: playing that thing. All right, It looks like Mortal Kombat
Speaker 1: Legacy Collections release date has leaked early. This is from
Speaker 1: Jim Norman at Nintendo Life. We've been eagerly to anticipating
Speaker 1: more news on digital eclipses Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection since
Speaker 1: it was revealed last month with a twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: release window, and well, nothing has been officially shared. It
Speaker 1: looks like a more specific release date might have accidentally
Speaker 1: leaked via the Xbox app. No less thanks to IGN
Speaker 1: for the heads up. As noted on the r slash
Speaker 1: gaming leaks and rumor r slash glar. The Xbox App
Speaker 1: briefly had the upcoming collection listed for the twenty ninth
Speaker 1: Slash thirtieth of September due to the magic of time
Speaker 1: zones over the weekend, though there was no official from
Speaker 1: Digital Eclipse. The app listing has since been reverted back
Speaker 1: to the thirty first of December twenty twenty five, a
Speaker 1: placeholder while they wait to actually announce the real release date.
Speaker 1: You feel like this is one that could pop into
Speaker 1: that Nintendo Direct. Now that I'm like reading this, it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this could still be there.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. It'll probably be a game's calm normally
Speaker 2: by then a lot of stuff if it's coming out
Speaker 2: anytime soon, you wouldn't know already. And they keep calling
Speaker 2: Xbox App just a store, like the when the publisher
Speaker 2: filled out the info, they didn't leave release date and
Speaker 2: they accidentally went to live.
Speaker 1: Maybe the person checking was like using the Xbox App
Speaker 1: on their phone to get to the stop.
Speaker 2: Mayb yeah, because you can actually see the store there
Speaker 2: now you couldn't before. They had to take out cloud
Speaker 2: streaming and remote play because otherwise Apple wanted an app
Speaker 2: for every game that's right, that was.
Speaker 1: An astabsding thing to learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those these companies are great. Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Digital Clips does really good work. I'm excited. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: Model comback inn be pretty fun to go back to
Speaker 2: if you're just like looking to see fatalities and stuff.
Speaker 1: Mostly for me, you know, and it's Digital Clips, So
Speaker 1: it's going to be the you know, digital museum with
Speaker 1: all the interviews and for as much as like we
Speaker 1: don't know about the way games are made in general,
Speaker 1: when we do learn about how games are made, I
Speaker 1: think we often get the perspective of developers in Japan
Speaker 1: and developers on the American West Coast, maybe some other
Speaker 1: pockets here or there. That tends to be what we see.
Speaker 1: These are people from Chicago making games, or it had
Speaker 1: been from Chicago for a very long time when they
Speaker 1: were under Midway and all that stuff. I think nether
Speaker 1: Realm is still in Chicago, and it's that I just
Speaker 1: kind of we're in the Chicago the greater Chicago area
Speaker 1: actually is probably what it is. I'm like interested just
Speaker 1: to see that side of things and what it was
Speaker 1: like to make games in the nineties in that place
Speaker 1: and go like test these arcade machines at local locations
Speaker 1: and establishing that scene and what it all fans felt like.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of how Digital Eclips does their interviews,
Speaker 1: real journalists doing, asking real questions and vetting this information
Speaker 1: and presenting it in a way that feels well thought out, considered.
Speaker 1: And Mortal Kombats is such a ripe thing for The
Speaker 1: games are interesting, The stories of the games are interesting,
Speaker 1: like behind the scenes, and the people making those games
Speaker 1: are interesting.
Speaker 2: So yeah, very excited about the media around it too,
Speaker 2: with the movies and all the various things they've done.
Speaker 2: There's so much to cover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I said, well, it could show up at
Speaker 1: Nintendo Direct. Of course, EVO is this week. It's going
Speaker 1: to show up. That's what's going to happen here. So
Speaker 1: that's like the perfect fit for this game and that audience.
Speaker 1: And yeah, okay, so yeah, we'll probably get some news
Speaker 1: at EVO and I'm looking forward to that. Uh sweak
Speaker 1: It In live broadcast set for August to fifth. This
Speaker 1: is from Salamano at Gamatsu Konami will host its third
Speaker 1: sweak it In live broadcast on August fifth at four
Speaker 1: am Civic time. We'll make jam get up. The company
Speaker 1: announced you will be able to watch it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: The broadcast, which will run for one hour and thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: will feature various new information, the details of which were
Speaker 1: not specified. Speaking In one and two HD Remaster Gate,
Speaker 1: Ruin and Done In Unification Wars launched for PS five, Xbox,
Speaker 1: PlayStation four, Switch and PC. The esteam blah blah blah
Speaker 1: back in back on March and then it's coming to
Speaker 1: switch to, or it did come to switch to on
Speaker 1: June fifth. A new title, Sweaking in Starleap, is currently
Speaker 1: in development for PC, iOS and Android. That's the weird
Speaker 1: and mobile one. Yeah, they're probably doing even more with
Speaker 1: sweaking in those games. I think did all right when
Speaker 1: they came back, and I think they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: we were back in the game. We're Konami. Now we're here,
Speaker 1: get used to it. It's like, okay, this is neat.
Speaker 2: There. It's weird having Konami back. Yes, they talkative that first, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like they were super talkative at first. I've actually had
Speaker 2: a really hard time getting in talk into them for
Speaker 2: No Solid Delta and then games coms happening, and so
Speaker 2: I'm just curious. They're everyone's super busy but it is.
Speaker 2: It's nice.
Speaker 1: Always been hard to get a hold of Konami though.
Speaker 2: That's no, they weren't super talkative at first, which was weird. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's cool seeing them back as I have so many
Speaker 2: fantastic IP and hopefully they treat them well. It is
Speaker 2: kind of annoying. I get why. Kind of annoying. The
Speaker 2: next thing's mobile focused, but you know, yeah, I can do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if all of these
Speaker 1: companies that have these RPG franchises are like, let's have
Speaker 1: our own bejo Yo kind of kind of game. I mean, say,
Speaker 1: gat List did that with Persona recently. It's not been
Speaker 1: well received, but I get the thought behind it, like
Speaker 1: let's do our own one of those. And just because
Speaker 1: it hasn't been well received doesn't mean they can't fix
Speaker 1: it over time.
Speaker 2: I mean that's going to work that it doesn't. It
Speaker 2: hasn't made a ton of money.
Speaker 1: Exactly, it probably has made a butt ton of money,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, so we can and could totally try
Speaker 1: to do that. I guess I haven't paid much attention
Speaker 1: to Starleep. I don't know if that's how they're doing this. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I don't care, but I think sweak it In overalls
Speaker 1: as this thing. It does feel like, Okay, Kunami's on
Speaker 1: that level. It's not just the Middle Gears or Silent Hills.
Speaker 1: They are also doing Castlevania, which I think for them
Speaker 1: would be right below like Metal Gear in terms of importance.
Speaker 1: So they're doing Castlevania as well, at least that's the
Speaker 1: rumor there is that the run back of Castavania game.
Speaker 1: I think we probably hear about that maybe before the
Speaker 1: end of the year.
Speaker 2: With how hot Metroidvanias are, it would be weird to
Speaker 2: not have a Vania.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, exactly and then say okay, and they're even
Speaker 1: doing sweak it In, and you know, there's a very
Speaker 1: loyal fan base for Sweaking In, so that makes sense
Speaker 1: on its own. But for them to be like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be We're gonna kind of treat this
Speaker 1: like a mini version of what we're doing with Silent
Speaker 1: Hill and have a couple of things going at once, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's potentially exciting. I do wonder, like, for an hour
Speaker 1: and a half what they could possibly have to say,
Speaker 1: but no, everyone does.
Speaker 2: I guess it's just people sitting around on a couch
Speaker 2: going over shooting the shit. It's not going to be
Speaker 2: anything tight in gameplay focus. I would imagine vibe. It's
Speaker 2: the twitch audience stream more than the YouTube audience.
Speaker 1: Yea, exactly? Uh all right? Skate Reboot has over one
Speaker 1: million sign ups for latest playtests. This is from Blair
Speaker 1: Marnell at GameSpot. EA's upcoming Skate reboot was announced just
Speaker 1: over five years ago, but the long wait apparently hasn't
Speaker 1: diminished interest in the game. Over one million players have
Speaker 1: signed up for the latest Skate playtest, and that's a
Speaker 1: milestone for EA. According to EA, the eye popping represents
Speaker 1: the biggest playtest they app have been number I think
Speaker 1: is what this should say. Represents the biggest playtests sign
Speaker 1: up in the history of the company. Although sign ups
Speaker 1: are currently closed, EA indicated that everyone who registered for
Speaker 1: the current playtest will get their invitation by the end
Speaker 1: of July. The original Skate was released in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, but the series has been on ice since
Speaker 1: Skate three and twenty ten. They've really put out Skate,
Speaker 1: Skate two and Skate three and three years. I guess
Speaker 1: that'd be four years.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was that, Jen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just how things worked back then. Huh uh.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, EA announced, God, it's been that long,
Speaker 1: that's Skate Reboat Reboot was in development. At that point,
Speaker 1: they didn't have anything, so it makes sense. It's sad
Speaker 1: that long.
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of guys and we've told them, hey,
Speaker 2: start thinking about making a new skate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not even like start thinking about making the studio
Speaker 1: to make a new skate.
Speaker 2: So it was like Ubisoft and splinter Cell, it's like,
Speaker 2: we're we're gonna do this. We'll start it soon.
Speaker 1: Uh so we are uh gonna find out more about
Speaker 1: like what people really think about this game if a
Speaker 1: million people are going to be playing it soon.
Speaker 2: But if they have nda is nothing a leak like
Speaker 2: that in Meadowfield.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's it's a lock box and nothing can
Speaker 1: escape it. Yeah, I'm curious because what I you know,
Speaker 1: I like the concept overall, but I'm not a skate
Speaker 1: person really. I was a Tony Hawk person. So when
Speaker 1: I hear like, okay, skate, We're gonna build this kind
Speaker 1: of game where people can hang out online skates to me, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: something like that. But it's like it's like people, you know,
Speaker 1: skating on the corner, going to the park and skating,
Speaker 1: hanging out and trying things and throwing whippets.
Speaker 2: You're not it's not like an actual skater culture game.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come with the package. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna come with the game. Absolutely. I I like the idea,
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm curious and I'm skeptical that the people
Speaker 1: who have been begging for skate to return, the hashtag
Speaker 1: skate for people, are they going to dig this direction
Speaker 1: for the game. I'm I'm thinking probably not, and it might.
Speaker 1: It might kind of blow up in their face a
Speaker 1: little bit. Now, that's not to say that they won't
Speaker 1: get used to it or come around to what this
Speaker 1: game is. I think there's a chance of that as well.
Speaker 1: But I think coming out of this test you're going
Speaker 1: to hear a lot of people going, oh, this is
Speaker 1: not what I wanted when I was asking for another skate.
Speaker 2: They might be helped quite a bit by Tony Hawk
Speaker 2: bringing skating back with one exam Like, it had been
Speaker 2: so long and the last thing we had was Tony
Speaker 2: Hawk Pro Skater five. It's been long enough now where
Speaker 2: I think something different, especially if they do have some
Speaker 2: dumb fun like Hall of Meat file stuff, especially for streamers,
Speaker 2: so I'll laugh and goof around and that pulls in
Speaker 2: a bunch of young people.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, honestly, I think you make this game,
Speaker 1: and you make it PROCs chat and you are far.
Speaker 2: Ahead of the extraction elements where you get a skate
Speaker 2: into an area and you're being chased.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I think if it's becomes a little bit
Speaker 1: of streamer big game, that's actually a good thing for skate.
Speaker 1: But again, I don't think that's what the skate fans
Speaker 1: are asking for.
Speaker 2: If you also have the these are really cool hard
Speaker 2: skate levels over on this side of the game, and
Speaker 2: then there's all the shit that pays for it over here, Like,
Speaker 2: I think that would probably be the best way it
Speaker 2: would work.
Speaker 1: Right, And making people want to like socialize in that
Speaker 1: game is the key to making that all work. So
Speaker 1: can they pull that off? You know, I'm hopeful. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to see it. This is definitely a game I'm
Speaker 1: rooting for. I want to see skate well and have
Speaker 1: that fan base be happy. We'll find out more soon,
Speaker 1: all right, let's see here. UK Games Trade Body issue
Speaker 1: statement in regards to Steam's removal of adult games. This
Speaker 1: is from Ben Lion's a Game Reactor. But really the
Speaker 1: story is that UK UK I E which is I
Speaker 1: think the group says that's not is that Peggy? Do
Speaker 1: they run Peggy like eighteen? I think that's them. Anyway,
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, you should trust those ratings instead of
Speaker 1: having credit card processors make decisions for you. That's essentially
Speaker 1: what they're saying. But really their motivation is pretty sure,
Speaker 1: they get money every time someone has to have a
Speaker 1: game rated, and so they want the ratings to be
Speaker 1: the final arbiter because that can give is the source
Speaker 1: of their power.
Speaker 2: And for pretty much everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so right, and it should be that way. That's
Speaker 1: the whole point of this, of industry self regulating and
Speaker 1: self rating their content, which is what this would be.
Speaker 1: Certainly that's how we're in the United States. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: maybe this is an official government organization in the UK.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the whole point of this is
Speaker 1: so that people can buy the weird stuff if they want.
Speaker 1: If you want to go buy the Gooner games, if
Speaker 1: you do want to go buy the Steam games with
Speaker 1: people's butts showing, you can do that, and then we
Speaker 1: can have a rating there that tells parents this is
Speaker 1: not for your kids, and the whole system works. That's
Speaker 1: the idea, and it kind of protects people on all
Speaker 1: sides of the spectrum, and the credit card company is
Speaker 1: kind of kind of thrown a wrench in those works.
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously those the Collective Shout group, the
Speaker 1: one that's lobbying the credit card or organizations to do
Speaker 1: this in the first place, are getting their way here.
Speaker 1: There's also been a side of this jesse where people
Speaker 1: are now calling up the credit card company and trying
Speaker 1: to say, hey, you will listen to Collective Shout, listen
Speaker 1: to us as well, and that's been turned into a
Speaker 1: little bit of a movement on like the r slash
Speaker 1: Steam subreddit in some other places.
Speaker 2: They are collectively showed voting yes.
Speaker 1: They are collectively shouting at the group that has listened
Speaker 1: to Collective Shout. And I think that's probably the only
Speaker 1: way that this is gonna change. I think they have
Speaker 1: to feel a little bit of pressure. It's got to
Speaker 1: be for more than a like a week. It's people
Speaker 1: are gonna have to like actually actively continue calling up
Speaker 1: master part.
Speaker 2: Jernie Sanders behind it, saying we must allow people to
Speaker 2: buy the guna.
Speaker 1: Games exactly, yes, And I think he I think he
Speaker 1: did say that was a Yeah, that was a that
Speaker 1: wasn't you That was just a quote that we had there.
Speaker 1: I We'll see. I think we're like the credit card
Speaker 1: companies are used to listening to these organized groups and
Speaker 1: it will take a minute to like get through to them,
Speaker 1: because I think what's probably happening right now is people
Speaker 1: are sending stuff in or calling and probably just talking
Speaker 1: to a chatbot. They're probably just talking to.
Speaker 2: In in India that's just like, Wow, you've really given
Speaker 2: me something to think of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just click and go back to their lives.
Speaker 1: Do you do you do you feel like they can
Speaker 1: make some headway here with this kind of pressure from
Speaker 1: some organizations saying hey we've already got discovered, and people
Speaker 1: go into the credit card companies and saying hey, please
Speaker 1: don't do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a lot of the pressure will end
Speaker 2: up coming from the major publishers who are going to
Speaker 2: realize that it won't stop at sex games. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: worm their way in with the weird nine thousand year
Speaker 2: old anime Princess Uta Games and then come for everything,
Speaker 2: come for the violence and they'll they'll go for anything
Speaker 2: that isn't up to their values whatever they determine that
Speaker 2: should be. And so the actual big companies will realize,
Speaker 2: they'll go after it and it'll die pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's checkpoints. It's like you always see your vote
Speaker 1: with your wallet. Well, that's not possible here, Like that
Speaker 1: doesn't that's not how this would work.
Speaker 2: And you can't even go and buy all the Hentai
Speaker 2: games you want right now, they're just gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like in the people as pointing out, like
Speaker 1: on Itch, they just completely wiped out anything that had
Speaker 1: like adult the adult tag, and that means if it's
Speaker 1: a game made for adult sensibilities, mouth washingty and down. Now.
Speaker 1: They also said that they're going to go through and
Speaker 1: look at these games again, like mouth Washington is probably
Speaker 1: going to come back. But that's not the point. This
Speaker 1: is still like hurting that game and hurting everything else.
Speaker 2: But and it wasn't just taken down you can't buy it,
Speaker 2: it was you don't even own it anymore. That whoever
Speaker 2: getting people.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know if that's happened across the board.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened a lot.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, it's frustrating because it's supposed to be. We
Speaker 1: get all the bad things to the free market, right,
Speaker 1: you have to like go out there and get a
Speaker 1: job or else you'll starve to death and you won't
Speaker 1: have a place to live. And you're like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: free Marke if you if you want those things, go
Speaker 1: get a job, go figure things out. And then when
Speaker 1: when you're out there in the market, vote with your
Speaker 1: with your dollar. And it's like there's also the bad
Speaker 1: side of people being able to go in there and
Speaker 1: actually just say no, we don't want the free market
Speaker 1: to operate, and we don't want people to actually be
Speaker 1: free to make decisions for themselves because we know better.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, what the hell are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Why are we putting up with all the terrible things
Speaker 1: that capitalism has raw? But if we're not even gonna
Speaker 1: get the full breadth of the benefits, uh, And that's
Speaker 1: certainly what has happened here. And it's like it's because
Speaker 1: capitalism has never really worked that way. It has always
Speaker 1: been controlled by people in power, and this is another
Speaker 1: example of that. And they're just trying to make their
Speaker 1: shame your shame, and they can go to hell and
Speaker 1: they will be.
Speaker 2: Ah they will do yeah, I mean they will yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So we'll see. We'll keep following the story.
Speaker 1: I hope it's I hope Itch and Steam are working
Speaker 1: in the in the background to make some stuff happen here.
Speaker 1: But I think public pressure is gonna be the real
Speaker 1: thing required to get there.
Speaker 2: There's not that many people at STEAM, which I think
Speaker 2: also makes a lot harder when something like this happens.
Speaker 2: They don't have the manpower to really go through and
Speaker 2: figure it out. They're just gonna go take out you'd swaths.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they'll they'll go like hey, and if
Speaker 1: the people don't like this, they'll have to organize themselves
Speaker 1: and do something about it. That is the valve attitude
Speaker 1: about everything, and I think that that's what they're hoping
Speaker 1: will happen here or help.
Speaker 2: They should just use some AI. It'll be fixed in
Speaker 2: a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Cool thing, cool thing that we have to deal with.
Speaker 1: All right, that does it for the headlines. Let's get
Speaker 1: to the poll question for Actually, you know what, we
Speaker 1: didn't do poll question because it was Friday and we're
Speaker 1: doing the bomb twelve now, so we have a new
Speaker 1: pole question. We'll get to here in a moment. Before
Speaker 1: we do that, though, Jesse, why don't you tell peoplehere?
Speaker 1: They could find you on the internet what you have
Speaker 1: going on and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: You can find everything we do at xbox era dot
Speaker 2: com where Xbox Era on YouTube our big thing outside
Speaker 2: of going to Games Calm, where thankfully we had a
Speaker 2: very successful fan bribe. Because it's very expensive to get
Speaker 2: out there, they go to Console warsthegame dot com. It's
Speaker 2: a funnel little card game that you and if you
Speaker 2: have some friends, which if you're a huge console warrior
Speaker 2: you might not, but if you want to make fun
Speaker 2: of them you probably do. You can go bite there.
Speaker 1: Excellent, all right, new poole question, are you going to
Speaker 1: try that skate beta? We'll get that posted up on
Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash at jab bomb, get the community
Speaker 1: tab or posts. They're changing things over there. It's one
Speaker 1: of those you'll find it. Vote in the poll. We'll
Speaker 1: get the results of that. Talk about talk about on
Speaker 1: the show on Wednesday here on Giant Bomb. Speaking to
Speaker 1: giant Bomb today, we have Monday mornings. Honestly, it's definitely
Speaker 1: not gonna be morning because I have to do something
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon. Pissed with grub Mike said, hey, go go
Speaker 1: download this and get it working because I can't. So
Speaker 1: I got it working. Uh Jans out. So we can't
Speaker 1: do more Riven or anything like that yet. So instead
Speaker 1: me and Mike are gonna check out the missed parody
Speaker 1: game Pissed from the makers of micro Shaft wind Blows.
Speaker 1: You're gonna we're gonna check that out, and it's starring
Speaker 1: John Goodman, so I'm really looking forward to it. And
Speaker 1: then later Mike will have Mega Man Monday evening, Gaming's
Speaker 1: Gaming at Mike's at night. I'm never gonna not mess
Speaker 1: that that name up. That'll be happening at eight pm.
Speaker 1: Who knows what he's gonna be playing. We just let
Speaker 1: him run wild over there. It's gonna be a good
Speaker 1: one though, because Mitch owns mondays here on Giant Bomb.
Speaker 1: All right, I think that covers what we have going on.
Speaker 1: We've done the show, we've done the headlines, we've done
Speaker 1: the poll, I guess, so remind people about the Big
Speaker 1: twelve or the Bomb twelve if you did not listen
Speaker 1: to the show on Friday. Every Friday, now we are
Speaker 1: gonna gather up the twelve games that matter the most
Speaker 1: of people in this moment. We did that, we posted it.
Speaker 1: It went really well. I will put another call out
Speaker 1: for hey, what is your game right now today? Respond
Speaker 1: to that. I will use that to inform what the
Speaker 1: Bomb twelve is going to look like. I keep wanting
Speaker 1: to call it the Big twelve, which is a mind organization.
Speaker 1: It's pissed, Yeah, always has been though, right, it's never
Speaker 1: not been pissed for the last thirty years.
Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, just walking around pissing on everything. There's
Speaker 2: a theme.
Speaker 1: I'm expecting pissed to be a real nightmare. Actually, I'm
Speaker 1: expecting the humor just be rancid. Yeah, I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to it, all right, Jesse, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: hanging out with me today and talking about video gaps.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thank you all for a Thank
Speaker 1: you all for listening and watching. You're the best audience
Speaker 1: in gaming. Until next time, have a good one, take
Speaker 1: care of yourself, and goodbye.