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Speaker 2: So yesterday, obviously we did talk a lot about the
Speaker 2: injury to Colin Lacey, a highly highly coveted transfer, a
Speaker 2: guy who was super accomplished as a college football player
Speaker 2: four years at South Alabama and he was really really good.
Speaker 2: I don't know where he ranks among the transfers that
Speaker 2: Louisville fans were most excited about, but Louisville lacked explosive
Speaker 2: playmaking ability at the receiver position last season outside of
Speaker 2: Jamari Thrash. But I think Jamari Thrash and I wouldn't
Speaker 2: you know, he was just a good receiver, a reliable
Speaker 2: guy when healthy. Obviously that hand injury later in the
Speaker 2: year really did change some things for him, but obviously
Speaker 2: a really talented guy that his success from Georgia State
Speaker 2: did in fact end up transferring over. And he was good,
Speaker 2: really good, and unfortunately you really learned how valuable he was,
Speaker 2: and you know, you didn't really see the full value
Speaker 2: he had that he brought to you until you know
Speaker 2: he didn't you didn't have him. He's injured and when
Speaker 2: he did play at times he wasn't the same. So
Speaker 2: I think given the accomplishments from Colin Lacey at South Alabama,
Speaker 2: knowing all the other schools that wanted him, and knowing
Speaker 2: that he's a guy that you know, Jeff Brohm could
Speaker 2: really creatively use in a variety of ways and I
Speaker 2: know I'm not the only one that's thrown out that
Speaker 2: Rondell Moore comparison. Tough to live up to that because
Speaker 2: Rondell Moore was an electrifying player, and honestly so is
Speaker 2: so is Colin Lacy. It's just you don't know if
Speaker 2: it would be that way here at Louisville. I happen
Speaker 2: to think that it would. And it's unfortunate that his
Speaker 2: collarbone injury that will sideline him six to eight weeks
Speaker 2: took place right at the same time it started to
Speaker 2: sound like he was really starting to emerge and become
Speaker 2: a guy that you know, they felt very confident in.
Speaker 2: So it's unfortunate. You know, I talked a lot yesterday
Speaker 2: about the potential opportunities here for other guys to kind
Speaker 2: of step up. Right when you get this laid into practice,
Speaker 2: and you know, this close to the season, you know,
Speaker 2: if your second third string you're not getting the same
Speaker 2: reps in practice every day that somebody is that is
Speaker 2: ahead of you on the depth chart. Well, now Colin
Speaker 2: Lacy's not practicing because he's recovering from a collar bone injury,
Speaker 2: just had surgery. So there's some guys that may be
Speaker 2: able to kind of show, hey, I'm not Colin Lacey,
Speaker 2: but you could really you could really utilize me in
Speaker 2: this spot. In fact, you know, it sounds like Murice
Speaker 2: Turner Lowell's running back, like he's somebody that may get
Speaker 2: some slot receiver opportunities now that Colin Lacey is sidelined
Speaker 2: for six to eight weeks. So I still believe they
Speaker 2: could have a really good offense this year. When I
Speaker 2: say really good, I don't mean that they're going to
Speaker 2: lead the country. But I think their offense can be balanced.
Speaker 2: It can be at times, you know, high powered as
Speaker 2: far as lighting up the scoreboard. Maybe an offense that
Speaker 2: you feel like, okay, yeah we're down a couple of
Speaker 2: scores here, but yeah, no problem. We got Jeff Brum
Speaker 2: calling the plays, we got a healthy Tyler Schuck slinging
Speaker 2: it across the yard, and we've got guys that can
Speaker 2: make place. So like, I still think they you know,
Speaker 2: the defense. It's just weird for people to say this,
Speaker 2: but the Louisville offense could be really good this year,
Speaker 2: better than last year, and yet the defense still be
Speaker 2: the overall strength. Because I think the defense has the
Speaker 2: chance to be that good. So I think even with
Speaker 2: Lacey out, Bull should still have a good season and
Speaker 2: have expectations pretty high. But you also can't act as
Speaker 2: if like this is no big deal. Right, You'd be
Speaker 2: better with Calmon Lacey, but without him you could still
Speaker 2: be pretty damn good in my opinion. So nothing, you
Speaker 2: know that that was sort of the gist of yesterday's
Speaker 2: conversation about him being out for six to eight weeks.
Speaker 2: So there's some some smoke out there about a potential
Speaker 2: last minute edition to the roster here as school is
Speaker 2: set to start, I believe next week maybe, and everybody's
Speaker 2: moving in like right now, I don't know when the
Speaker 2: first day of classes start at u of L. And
Speaker 2: even if you know, you arrived a day or two after,
Speaker 2: you could probably still like there's that grace period. We
Speaker 2: all know about that grace period, right, So it's possible,
Speaker 2: But it's one of those things where it's strict rumor
Speaker 2: there really isn't any There's nothing legitimate out there that
Speaker 2: I've seen that makes me believe for sure that they're
Speaker 2: working on doing something here. But it also isn't a
Speaker 2: crazy thing to see potentially happening. And I'll just tell
Speaker 2: you what it is, and again I'm letting you know
Speaker 2: this is just an offline rumor from message boards. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's even being discussed on the Trilla Donovan discord. It
Speaker 2: may be behind some paywalls at rivals in twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven, but I don't have access to those boards.
Speaker 2: But a mari Huggins Bruce, You guys remember that name, right.
Speaker 2: I think of Mariy Huggins Bruce early on in the
Speaker 2: Portal era here as a Louisville football fan. He's like
Speaker 2: the he's the best example, in my opinion, of a
Speaker 2: guy who you liked. He was productive, he was a
Speaker 2: pretty good player. He wasn't your best player. He wasn't
Speaker 2: somebody that you think, like you can't live without. But
Speaker 2: like he's not somebody you're thinking, yeah, he'll leave in
Speaker 2: who cares. He's also not somebody that's like, you know,
Speaker 2: we're going to be doomed if he leaves. But he's
Speaker 2: a you know, he's a guy who you know in
Speaker 2: the last in three seasons at Louisville, there's a receiver
Speaker 2: eighty receptions, eleven hundred yards, ten touchdowns played, thirty eight
Speaker 2: games total. Has really been somebody that you've seen on
Speaker 2: the field with the offense since his freshman season. In fact,
Speaker 2: his best season came as a true freshman in two
Speaker 2: thousand and was that twenty one or twenty I don't
Speaker 2: know what it was. I don't know which year it was,
Speaker 2: but I know he's been on the field since he
Speaker 2: was a true freshman in some former fashion. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he cut twenty nine passes for four hundred and forty
Speaker 2: four yards and four touchdowns in his in his true
Speaker 2: freshman season. And again he made plays last year. Last year,
Speaker 2: you know, three hundred and twelve yards, four touchdowns on
Speaker 2: twenty receptions in all fourteen games played. He is somebody
Speaker 2: that you know, you wouldn't be bummed if your staff
Speaker 2: recruited over this guy, but you don't want him to leave.
Speaker 2: But then when you kind of come to if you will,
Speaker 2: and you realize the era that we're in, this new
Speaker 2: world of college athletics where this guy didn't want to
Speaker 2: be moved down. He wants to be he wants to
Speaker 2: have an elevated role. So like to me, I you know,
Speaker 2: just I'm only speaking for myself here as a Louisville fan.
Speaker 2: I liked him aout. Mary Huggins versus I didn't want
Speaker 2: him to leave, but he's also somebody that, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: makes total sense. He's a guy that probably didn't want
Speaker 2: to leave Louisville until he realized, yeah, I've probably maybe
Speaker 2: maybe I've hit my ceiling here, and let's be real.
Speaker 2: He decided to transfer from Louisville a little bit after
Speaker 2: called in. Lacey committed to Louisville as a transfer guy. So,
Speaker 2: like he saw the writing on the wall, I'm being
Speaker 2: recruited over no hard feelings, you know, I can see
Speaker 2: my role potentially diminishing, and I'm gonna look to leave.
Speaker 2: And he did love Louisville, by the way. He's somebody
Speaker 2: that you know, I remember specifically on his way out
Speaker 2: he talked about how much he loved it here. I
Speaker 2: know there's people in the community. They got to know
Speaker 2: him a little bit, like he's he really liked it here,
Speaker 2: but he's looking out for himself and in this new
Speaker 2: world of college athletics where you have the ability to
Speaker 2: just up and leave whenever you want and find a
Speaker 2: new home that gives you what you're looking for, a
Speaker 2: bigger role, you know, maybe closer to home, that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. So you know, he's somebody that I didn't
Speaker 2: want to see leave, but I felt like Louisville will
Speaker 2: probably be okay without him, and I understand him looking
Speaker 2: out for himself. Well, he transferred to South Carolina. He
Speaker 2: did not win the starting receiver job at South Carolina.
Speaker 2: In fact, he got beat out by another transfer I believe,
Speaker 2: who transferred in from Coastal Carolina, who was catching passes
Speaker 2: from McCall who's now in in C State. So you know,
Speaker 2: it sounds like he's not really emerged as a guy
Speaker 2: that's going to be relied upon heavily at South Carolina.
Speaker 2: And he tweeted something out that has since been deleted,
Speaker 2: which is I'm completely checked out. I think it's what
Speaker 2: it said, or I'm totally checked out, And this was
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, maybe now again it's since
Speaker 2: been deleted. He has nothing on his Twitter bio other
Speaker 2: than just an all black avatar and an all black background.
Speaker 2: He does still say that he's a game Cock receiver,
Speaker 2: but there are people that are, I guess, either reporting
Speaker 2: behind a paywall or they're hearing that it's something that's
Speaker 2: being worked on. That he comes back to Louisville and
Speaker 2: rejoins the Louisville team. I have no clue if that's
Speaker 2: true or not. Wouldn't shock me if it's one of
Speaker 2: those things that, like enough people start talking about it.
Speaker 2: So it just is, you know, people started running with it,
Speaker 2: and nobody's out there saying that it's legit and they're
Speaker 2: reporting that it's happening. But it just he is out
Speaker 2: there enough by enough people to where people where people
Speaker 2: like myself could kind of say, okay, you know what,
Speaker 2: maybe that is happening. So that would make me feel
Speaker 2: a little better about Louisville situation with Colin Lacy because
Speaker 2: Huggins Bruce he never really was consistent enough, like he
Speaker 2: was good enough. He made some plays, you saw some
Speaker 2: flashes of it, but you know, he really was expected
Speaker 2: to maybe emerge in a big way when thrash went
Speaker 2: down last year and it just didn't happen. You know,
Speaker 2: he'd have a game here or there, he'd have a
Speaker 2: play here or there where you're like, all right, here
Speaker 2: we go this guy, man, he can he's good, and
Speaker 2: then it did. You know, then you then you'd you'd
Speaker 2: go a couple of games and you think to yourself, Oh,
Speaker 2: I forgot about that guy. Where's he been. So there's
Speaker 2: also a part of me that says, maybe AMRII Huggins
Speaker 2: Bruce didn't really you know, thrive at Louisville because of
Speaker 2: the guys thrown in the ball, Willie Cunningham and who
Speaker 2: you know, heck of a player in his own way,
Speaker 2: but like wasn't consistent with his arm and then you know,
Speaker 2: we all know Jack Plummer was Jack Plumber. So if
Speaker 2: that happens, awesome, Uh, if it's completely made up, shout
Speaker 2: out to somebody who was able to like wishfully float something.
Speaker 2: And it kind of created a life of its own
Speaker 2: to where there's a lot of folks that seem to
Speaker 2: believe that it's that it's true. So just because they
Speaker 2: may be working on this doesn't mean it's gonna happen
Speaker 2: because it would probably take you know, I mean, it's possible.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's too late for you to end
Speaker 2: up enrolled in school here, and maybe I'm wrong, but
Speaker 2: him transferring to a school that he's already been at, wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's you know, I guess he did enroll
Speaker 2: in spring classes and he went through spring with South Carolina,
Speaker 2: so maybe that does make things a little bit sticky,
Speaker 2: but you have to worry about him being able to
Speaker 2: get into school, right, Like I mean, he's somebody that
Speaker 2: you know has already been here for three years. So
Speaker 2: again I'm I'm not here to report that that is
Speaker 2: happening or it's not happening, but I would be in
Speaker 2: favor of that if so. All right, something else we
Speaker 2: discussed that came out in the three o'clock hour and
Speaker 2: there's some reaction on the text line, and that is
Speaker 2: that we now know when John Caliperry is coming back
Speaker 2: to Lexington. It'll be on Saturday, February the first. That
Speaker 2: is when Kentucky and Arkansas will play at Rupperina, And
Speaker 2: that's going to be a really tough ticket to get.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be good at guessing the price Ranger going
Speaker 2: to see. But two things, Arkansas fans will be there. Now,
Speaker 2: there ain't gonna be that many of them, I'm sure,
Speaker 2: but like they'll they travel if they can get a ticket.
Speaker 2: Like I think Kentucky losing Cow will some would say
Speaker 2: that they got rid of him, but cal being at
Speaker 2: Arkansas and also Arkansas having a hell of a run
Speaker 2: with Musselman until the last year. I think that has
Speaker 2: let people know. Arkansas, Man, they got a big ass
Speaker 2: fan base that does, in fact care about basketball more
Speaker 2: than just about everybody in the SEC outside of Kentucky.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think Arkansas fans there's enough of
Speaker 2: them out there to where, if you know, if somebody
Speaker 2: had access to tickets, you know these secondhand markets, if
Speaker 2: they got tickets and resold them for a big, big,
Speaker 2: big chunk, I wouldn't be I wouldn't put it Patson
Speaker 2: Arkansas fan to travel here. I guess at that point
Speaker 2: in February, you depend on how good you are. Right Like,
Speaker 2: you're not going to make the trip if your team's
Speaker 2: terrible and you expect them to get blown out. But
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans, I think there's gonna be an incentive there
Speaker 2: for them to say they want to be there to
Speaker 2: boo his ass when he comes out onto the floor.
Speaker 2: Now you're somebody I'm just trying to, you know, psychologically,
Speaker 2: look at it. If you are a Kentucky fan and
Speaker 2: you're willing to say, Okay, I only go to three
Speaker 2: games a year. I live in I live in h
Speaker 2: I live in Owensboro. See, you know, not super close
Speaker 2: to Lexington, but not too far but I go to
Speaker 2: three games every year, and I'm not afraid to spend
Speaker 2: a good chunk of money because it's a game I
Speaker 2: want to be at and I want a good seat.
Speaker 2: If you're that person and this game is circled for
Speaker 2: you as one of the ones you gotta get to,
Speaker 2: my gut tells me you're getting there to boo loudly,
Speaker 2: because that's the incentive. You aren't. You aren't, You aren't
Speaker 2: circling this is Oh, let's bring him home. Cow oh.
Speaker 2: I want to give him a big smooch. I hope
Speaker 2: I run into him walking down that road he was
Speaker 2: walking his dog on. Maybe I'll see him taking an
Speaker 2: old stroll down Memory Lane whatever the busiest road in
Speaker 2: lexingon is that he was just walking his dog. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Richmond Road, just walking his dog in a baby stroller,
Speaker 2: Wasn't it? Like what a what means? That's one of
Speaker 2: those That is one of those things, Like you know,
Speaker 2: even now it's been what four months since that happened
Speaker 2: or whatever it was, it's still insane that that happened.
Speaker 2: Like the cal departure to Arkansas was a wild ride,
Speaker 2: because I do believe that deep down he had regret
Speaker 2: that he didn't. He wanted to put the fear that
Speaker 2: he could go somewhere and it was happening. And then
Speaker 2: I believe he talked to people at UK and he
Speaker 2: kind of told him, you know, I'll come back if
Speaker 2: this or that, and I think it pretty much turned
Speaker 2: into no.
Speaker 3: We remember it was right off the heels of that
Speaker 3: TV interview with Mitch Barnhart.
Speaker 2: Oh God, that was so awkward. Yeah, yeah, so I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, I don't know the specifics, and maybe
Speaker 2: this has been out there. It's one of those things
Speaker 2: where I know who I heard it from, but I
Speaker 2: don't remember if he told me this in conversation or
Speaker 2: if he said it on his show, which I'm sure
Speaker 2: you're probably familiar with who I'm talking about. But like
Speaker 2: cal actually broke his contract and could have been like,
Speaker 2: you know, not only do you not get to go,
Speaker 2: or not only are we not going to to give
Speaker 2: you what you're asking for, you should take this job
Speaker 2: and if you don't, we'll fire you and not owe
Speaker 2: you a dime because you violate. You broke your contract
Speaker 2: by communicating with another school about their job without letting
Speaker 2: your athletic director know. So you know, anyways, I mean,
Speaker 2: I have no problem in saying it. That is one
Speaker 2: of the storylines of college basketball this year. How does
Speaker 2: Cal do it? As new school? And I don't think
Speaker 2: a storyline about college basketball is as much about like,
Speaker 2: there's not pressure on Mark Pope to win, to win
Speaker 2: really really big right away. But you know, if he's
Speaker 2: terrible in year one and they don't make the tournament
Speaker 2: or something, which I don't see that happening, like that
Speaker 2: would be a storyline because that's rare for Kentucky in
Speaker 2: in any era, any coach. But you know, if Cal
Speaker 2: is rolling and they're kind of just trotting along looking
Speaker 2: like a tournament team potentially or looking like a tournament
Speaker 2: team safely but not looking like a real contender. But
Speaker 2: yet Cal does have Arkansas looking like one of the
Speaker 2: best teams in the country, then I think, you know,
Speaker 2: it will be a big talking point. But I still
Speaker 2: feel we you know this, this question was asked on
Speaker 2: the text line, and it was actually discussed on the
Speaker 2: show not long after we found out, you know that
Speaker 2: this was happening, right Cal's out, Arkansas is where he's
Speaker 2: gonna be, and they hired Mark Pope. There's no doubt
Speaker 2: in my mind in this one game they're gonna play.
Speaker 2: The pressure is on Cal more than Pope, and it's
Speaker 2: not close, right. I mean, Cal has a probably better
Speaker 2: roster on paper, just because of how top heavy his
Speaker 2: roster is with their transfers. And you know, he's a
Speaker 2: made man. He's John freaking Cala Perry. Pope's never won
Speaker 2: a tournament game doesn't mean he can't win big at Kentucky.
Speaker 2: That's not me acting as if they hired some guy
Speaker 2: who's gonna be awful, because you just never know, and
Speaker 2: I actually happen to I think Mark Pope's a good coach.
Speaker 2: Now will he be able to truly get them where
Speaker 2: they want to be because Cal obviously recent tournament success
Speaker 2: was a big failure for him, but he kept them
Speaker 2: in the limelight, he kept them in the top tier
Speaker 2: of the sport as far as you know, who's being discussed,
Speaker 2: who's believed to be a con tender consistently. And I
Speaker 2: don't know Pope can do that and Kentucky needs that,
Speaker 2: don't they? Because if Pope has Kentucky, as you know,
Speaker 2: third fourth SEC every year, always in the tournament, top six,
Speaker 2: top five seed, ish, that's not bad. That's not fireable.
Speaker 2: But that's where Kentucky just becomes another program that is
Speaker 2: certainly a blue bud, blue blood, but you know, they're
Speaker 2: kind of one of many in that tier in Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Last I checked, they don't want to be in any
Speaker 2: tier other than the tip top tier, and that's just
Speaker 2: where you know, you just don't know if Pope can
Speaker 2: do that. So I think the pressure is on Cal
Speaker 2: because what's Cal's excuse this year? If they stink, I mean,
Speaker 2: he'll have them. We're young, we built a brand new team.
Speaker 2: Guys haven't been practicing. Like some of the nonsensical excuses
Speaker 2: he used in Lexington were just hilarious. But like, no,
Speaker 2: there's no doubt somebody's asked us. Somebody has asked on
Speaker 2: text line, do you think who do you think has
Speaker 2: more pressure? I think it's not even close. More pressure
Speaker 2: to be good in year one and more pressure to
Speaker 2: beat the other. It is Col than Pope. I think
Speaker 2: that's a no brainer. Also, real quick, before we get
Speaker 2: to our next break, the you know Cal is you know,
Speaker 2: he's he's all about not playing games in home arenas
Speaker 2: in college basketball. He wants to do big event games
Speaker 2: on television nationally. That are played an NBA Arenas with
Speaker 2: not that many fans there, just because you know, that's
Speaker 2: that's how he operates. And you know, Kentucky fans they
Speaker 2: got to go to Vegas, they got to go to
Speaker 2: other cities when the Champions Classic rotates, and you know, hell,
Speaker 2: they played some games up in New York City randomly.
Speaker 2: So like, you know, if you went on those trips
Speaker 2: and your team was good, I'm sure that was fun.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, I just think it's insane.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm probably in the minority here, but if you've
Speaker 2: got these teams on your schedule every year, it should
Speaker 2: rotate home and home and you could still call it
Speaker 2: whatever you're gonna call it, and it would be best
Speaker 2: for college basketball because those are true road games and
Speaker 2: you get, you know, just a great atmosphere that can
Speaker 2: help really expose how awesome college basketball can be when
Speaker 2: you have the best teams play. So anyways, Arkansas has
Speaker 2: decided to, I mean, so Cal won't you know, Cal
Speaker 2: doesn't have the Champions Classic anymore because he's at Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Do I have the CBA Sports Classic? So you know,
Speaker 2: one of the games that he has put together for
Speaker 2: the upcoming season, is a Thanksgiving Day matchup where Arkansas
Speaker 2: is going to play. Arkansas is gonna play. I think
Speaker 2: it's Illinois, which is which is kind of kind of odd.
Speaker 2: I feel like I think they're gonna let's see, yeah,
Speaker 2: Illinois to battle Arkansas in Thanksgiving Day showdown. This will
Speaker 2: be played at T Mobile Arena in Kansas City and
Speaker 2: it'll be broadcast live at three pm Central on CBS
Speaker 2: and streamed on Paramount. So it's on Thanksgiving, they're gonna
Speaker 2: be going up. There's gonna be football that'll get way
Speaker 2: more attention. But uh, this is actually like, this will
Speaker 2: get a lot of viewership because it's gonna be on
Speaker 2: right after a big time NFL game, and some will
Speaker 2: automatically turn it over, and then some won't turn it over,
Speaker 2: and then a lot will turn it over, but not
Speaker 2: right away. And it's crazy that alone will that alone
Speaker 2: will give this a huge rating, which cow wants. Col
Speaker 2: wants to be able to say, Hey, we played on
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and we had one of the highest rated games
Speaker 2: of college basketball season, and he'll use that to continue
Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, carry that brand that he
Speaker 2: carries that you know, he's the big dog, he's the
Speaker 2: larger than Live guy. I can't think of the examples,
Speaker 2: but I know there were two games that, if you
Speaker 2: went back and looked at in previous seasons the most
Speaker 2: watched college basketball games, there were two or three that
Speaker 2: you were like, huh, And it was only because it
Speaker 2: happened to come on right after an NFL game and
Speaker 2: people just left it on that station. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: we'll come back on the other side. We'll talk about
Speaker 2: this this beer controversy. It's not really a controversy, but
Speaker 2: some louisvell fans are upset about a local brewery here
Speaker 2: that has now partnered with Kentucky with nil and their
Speaker 2: own beer, just a year after they did the same
Speaker 2: thing for So we'll get to that in a lot more.
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Speaker 2: sounds better than that clearly, but he's got like a
Speaker 2: gravelly voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very grungey baby man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sounds a lot better and me, I'll let
Speaker 2: him do the thing and then I'll stop. All right,
Speaker 2: It's coffee and company. Feel Bet Thorton's here on Sports
Speaker 2: Talk seven ninety. I appreciate John playing beer money by
Speaker 2: h Kip Moore because beer money is being utilized to help,
Speaker 2: you know, foot the bill for college athletics and players
Speaker 2: and I all all that kind of stuff. So we'll
Speaker 2: start with the most recent piece of news here. So
Speaker 2: the universe Steve Kentucky. Uh well, I don't even know
Speaker 2: if it's it's Club Blue, which is one of the
Speaker 2: Kentucky collectives. I guess for nil it makes it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So here's the details of it before I get it
Speaker 2: all wrong. There's a there's a beer now called Kentucky
Speaker 2: Blue Light that is made by Gravelly Brewing Company, which
Speaker 2: is here. They're based here in Louisville. And you know,
Speaker 2: I've seen the cans, I've seen the tap. I know
Speaker 2: there's certain places that have it. I don't know what
Speaker 2: kind of you. I don't know what beer tastes like.
Speaker 2: But what's happening here is that Club Blue an official
Speaker 2: partner of UK Athletics. They're providing you know, anile opportunity
Speaker 2: to student athletes. So I don't know how the percentages
Speaker 2: are broken down or what cut is in place, but
Speaker 2: some of the money purchased, some of the money that
Speaker 2: is spent on this beer will go towards in IL
Speaker 2: this inile collective Club Blue, which none of like this
Speaker 2: is normal. There's there's probably a lot of other universities
Speaker 2: that have partnered with a brewery, a brewer brewery to
Speaker 2: you know, bring in money and you know, just help
Speaker 2: elevate their brand. Right like you're in a liquor store.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, this is a beer that I'm seeing. It's
Speaker 2: got a it's got a UK logo on it, it's
Speaker 2: got a UVEL logo on it. I'll I'm not that picky.
Speaker 2: I like trying new beer. Let me give it a shot. So,
Speaker 2: you know, the issue here in the eyes of some
Speaker 2: Louisville fans is that Gravelly brew Gravelly Brewing just did
Speaker 2: a Louisville beer last year called called Cardinale Ale. I
Speaker 2: think it's just cardinal Ale, but like it's spelled different.
Speaker 2: So I'm not I've not had the beer. It's not
Speaker 2: really my kind of beer, but you know, I've had
Speaker 2: I've had Gravely Brewing before and it you know, they're
Speaker 2: pretty good. It's again I'm not I'm not huge on
Speaker 2: craft beer. But anyways, here is the specifics of what
Speaker 2: was announced last year. So you've all announced a partnership
Speaker 2: with Gravely Brewing to create Cardinal al craft beer. So
Speaker 2: what I think there could be a legitimate gripe here
Speaker 2: is that I don't know if any of the money
Speaker 2: that is being spent on this specific Cardinal ale crisp
Speaker 2: light bodied blonde alee but is four point eight ABV.
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of that money goes towards
Speaker 2: any of Louisville's and il efforts like their collective five
Speaker 2: OO two circle. So you know I that to me.
Speaker 2: I mean again, first of all, the the owner, Nathan Graveley,
Speaker 2: he's the owner and founder. Like I am in no
Speaker 2: way knocking this guy. I mean, first of all, it
Speaker 2: sounds like he's a UK fan and he grew up
Speaker 2: I don't know if he grew up a UK fan,
Speaker 2: but like he's a UK alom and I don't know
Speaker 2: him personally, but the belief is that he is a
Speaker 2: UK fan. But as much as we are lunatics and
Speaker 2: we're petty about this rivalry. If you are in business,
Speaker 2: you stand to gain nothing by alienating another school, you know,
Speaker 2: that has a big fan base in the in the
Speaker 2: area where you do business and want to get business right, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, there may be like there may be an
Speaker 2: owner of a company who is a die hard Louisvel fan,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there are plenty of them out there.
Speaker 2: I just can't you know, I can think of a couple,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to, you know, put them out
Speaker 2: there like that, because again, you don't want anybody thinking
Speaker 2: that you like, there are people let me, let me
Speaker 2: just back up a second here, I almost said something
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't say, as far as some local business
Speaker 2: owners that like probably don't want you to know who
Speaker 2: they really root for and don't But nonetheless, as petty
Speaker 2: as we are as fans, and this may be like
Speaker 2: the small, very, you know, very small minority of Lunatic fans.
Speaker 2: There are some people that if they're looking at a
Speaker 2: plumber and they're deciding which plumbing company to use, if
Speaker 2: they know that they have seen a ton of promotion
Speaker 2: with U of L in this plumbing company, a lot
Speaker 2: of they're a big advertiser, a big corporate partner with
Speaker 2: U of L, but they've seen nothing from that same
Speaker 2: plumbing company. On the Kentucky side, a diehard Kentucky fan
Speaker 2: may just think, well, I'm not going with them. But
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that that plumbing company and he is
Speaker 2: alienating Kentucky. It's just that that's where they choose to
Speaker 2: do marketing. Not a whole lot of their brand is
Speaker 2: like you know, affiliated, right, Like they're they're not rolling
Speaker 2: out a ton of their own commercials that are being
Speaker 2: put on television that you know are just specifically but hey,
Speaker 2: join us. We are we only want Louisville fans to
Speaker 2: give us business because we love U of L. Like
Speaker 2: nobody would ever do that. That's stupid. And if you
Speaker 2: live in Louisville and you do business in Louisville and
Speaker 2: you want to bring in a lot of customers, you
Speaker 2: should cater to both. Now, some people may have a
Speaker 2: tough time doing that, right because they just they're they're
Speaker 2: they may have a lot of money and they're successful
Speaker 2: in their business and they understand marketing is a key
Speaker 2: to that. But nope, they're not giving a penny of
Speaker 2: their marketing dollars to a rival, because again we're kind
Speaker 2: of lunatics about it. So if you don't want to
Speaker 2: buy Gravely Brewing beer anymore because you now know that
Speaker 2: they gave Kentucky a potential better deal, which again I
Speaker 2: don't even know that for sure, and I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get the specifics, but I'm going back to the release
Speaker 2: here when this came out last year that UFL had
Speaker 2: partnered with Gravely. There's nothing in the release about any
Speaker 2: nil money being involved. Where on the Kentucky side, the
Speaker 2: people who buy this beer, some of that money is
Speaker 2: going towards Kentucky's collective. So you know, if that is
Speaker 2: really how it breaks down, which from what I can
Speaker 2: tell it is that would you know that would make
Speaker 2: Louislle fans some Moile fans are like, nope, we need
Speaker 2: a new beer provider. Nope, No, we can't have them
Speaker 2: putting their putting the Louisville logo on any Gravely beer
Speaker 2: because they're in bed with the cats and they're helping
Speaker 2: them with nil and not us. Like that sounds so
Speaker 2: petty and childish, but hey, that's the rivalry, isn't it
Speaker 2: Petty and childish? So I mean, I don't knock anybody
Speaker 2: at gravely, because again, it makes sense to cater to both.
Speaker 2: But I do think if you are you know, and
Speaker 2: I don't even know who'd be over top of this.
Speaker 2: I want to say Josh Hurt, because you know he's
Speaker 2: the athletic director, but like there's people in marketing, people
Speaker 2: in licensing. Heck, this could be a learfield thing. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, probably is a liar field thing.
Speaker 2: But I mean I'm gonna play middleman here and say
Speaker 2: that as a Louisville fan specifically, I would prefer to
Speaker 2: see U of L have a beer partner that is
Speaker 2: also not partnered with the rival, and that you know,
Speaker 2: has a collective initiative here to where some of the
Speaker 2: money purchased on said beer can go towards, you know,
Speaker 2: adding funds to the nil collective that is the five
Speaker 2: h two circle. But it's not something I can fake
Speaker 2: that I'm like bothered by, if that makes sense. So
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to create it. I don't
Speaker 2: want to act as if this has become literally like
Speaker 2: a huge issue that Louisville fans are really worried about.
Speaker 2: But there are at least some that are really worried
Speaker 2: about it, and again as silly as it sounds to
Speaker 2: some people like right now thinking like ash, these people
Speaker 2: are nuts. We are we are absolutely nuts about a
Speaker 2: lot of things. And you know this is just I think,
Speaker 2: you know, this is an example of that. Like I'm
Speaker 2: looking here. I just looked at I searched Gravely Brewing
Speaker 2: on Twitter just to see kind of what was out there.
Speaker 2: And this is from a guy on Twitter named d
Speaker 2: Gray seventy five. And I assume he's a Louisville fan
Speaker 2: because he's got a big U of L, got a
Speaker 2: big U of L logo as his app. It's sorry,
Speaker 2: he says. Gravely Brewing, owned by a UK grad, produced
Speaker 2: a successful beer for U of L, now has a
Speaker 2: beer for UK, but a major difference here partial sales
Speaker 2: going towards their NIL. Fair to say we need to
Speaker 2: get is we need to get the same deal or
Speaker 2: shelve them for a new beer partner willing to donate
Speaker 2: partial sales to U of L in IL too right,
Speaker 2: question mark. So the responses here are let's see here
Speaker 2: some people are just claiming they're under the impression that
Speaker 2: Cardinal L also did help NIL. And again, maybe it does.
Speaker 2: I have no clue, but it didn't say that in
Speaker 2: the official release. And then there's other people I care
Speaker 2: one hundred percent not buying any other beer. If the
Speaker 2: profits go to UK and IL, you tell them Scott
Speaker 2: sixty seven forty five, stick it to him, Scott. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they'll be they'll they'll regret that, Scott. They'll regret you
Speaker 2: saying that on Twitter anonymously. Other people seem to agree,
Speaker 2: other people claiming it was the good beer anyway. Oh,
Speaker 2: somebody is all right, somebody's tagged Josh Hurd in the
Speaker 2: tweet Josh heard time to find a local brewer that
Speaker 2: is willing to commit to Louisville's in IL. So you know,
Speaker 2: the lunatic fringe. And I say that in a loving way.
Speaker 2: They're the ones who are bothered by it. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's like a big time issue. And uh, but
Speaker 2: that what this reminded me of is when it comes
Speaker 2: to corporate partners, Like if you are a corporate partner
Speaker 2: of U of L and you give them a lot
Speaker 2: of money, you know that's good. Right, schools need the
Speaker 2: money and the schools are going to have to pay
Speaker 2: the players themselves now. But in IL is also still
Speaker 2: going to be a real thing. So you know, I
Speaker 2: think if you're if you are a company, a corporation
Speaker 2: that is interested in partnering with U of L, because
Speaker 2: first of all, you want to get all the perks
Speaker 2: that come with that, right like maybe a suite. You know,
Speaker 2: being a corporate partner, it has perks, trust me, So
Speaker 2: you want that, but you also want to really benefit
Speaker 2: from it to where your logo for your company is
Speaker 2: at LL and N Cardinal Stadium where everybody can see it.
Speaker 2: It's it's court side at the Young Center during a
Speaker 2: basketball game. It is all over the lear field and
Speaker 2: god knows they got a billion of them. The majority
Speaker 2: of the liar field broadcast is advertising that is way overpriced.
Speaker 2: But you know you want to take advantage of that,
Speaker 2: and you know get that's why you invest, That's why
Speaker 2: you become a corporate partner. But I do think your
Speaker 2: best bet as far as really winning over fans who
Speaker 2: you hope do support your business, because if your support
Speaker 2: of the school they love, you got to be double dipping.
Speaker 2: You got to be given money to the school or
Speaker 2: you got to be giving money to nil. And in fact,
Speaker 2: the school won't want to hear this Liarfield won't want
Speaker 2: to hear this. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: people now fans the average not even the average fan,
Speaker 2: I mean the average fan, the casual fan, the diehard
Speaker 2: fan understands NIL is still very important. And that is
Speaker 2: a big misconception about what's changed in uh that that's
Speaker 2: a bit you know that that like clearly when the
Speaker 2: schools have to start footing the bill, that is, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's something I never thought i'd see happening in college athletics.
Speaker 2: But I think some people, some people think that that
Speaker 2: means that I was going to go away, and it's not.
Speaker 2: It may not be as lucrative, maybe there's a little
Speaker 2: more transparency to it, but and I was still going
Speaker 2: to be a very important thing. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: Are you okay, John, Yeah, I'm okay you. Anytime you
Speaker 2: into the phone and you have a look on your
Speaker 2: face like you just had, I feel like.
Speaker 3: Well, and I appreciate all of our callers, especially the
Speaker 3: one who I just chatted with, but it does sometimes
Speaker 3: get a little aggravating whenever we're on the air, and
Speaker 3: I know, and I just want to talk to you
Speaker 3: having a conversation, but I was listening to what you
Speaker 3: were saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was, yeah, I mean, but you know
Speaker 2: they didn't insult you, did they?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no again. It was somebody who calls
Speaker 3: fairly regularly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because next time you come after John, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to deal with me. And I'm kidding, but let's
Speaker 2: be nice to John.
Speaker 3: I want to get again. He wasn't mean to me.
Speaker 3: It's just the inconvenience of answering the phone while we
Speaker 3: were doing the segment.
Speaker 2: It's all good, and I gotta protect my guys. That's
Speaker 2: what I do. All right, quick break will come back.
Speaker 2: Wrap it up, meaning the four o'clock are we still
Speaker 2: got another hour to go. We're taking up till six
Speaker 2: o'clock like we always do right here on Sports Talk
Speaker 2: seven to ninety. It's sticking with the nil conversation. This
Speaker 2: is something that will probably be i'd say, pretty common
Speaker 2: if it works. That's a big part of it. But
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State they've announced that their players will wear QR
Speaker 2: codes on their helmets this season, which will direct fans
Speaker 2: to a web page where those fans can donate to
Speaker 2: the programs and now collective every student athlete on the
Speaker 2: roster will have a unique code on the back of
Speaker 2: their helmet. So a couple things. The picture here shows
Speaker 2: how small it's going to be on the helmet, Like,
Speaker 2: how do you do Like I mean to me, I've
Speaker 2: not how often have you used a QR code?
Speaker 3: Not a bunch and now they work. But one thing
Speaker 3: I heard them say on one of the reports earlier
Speaker 3: is that there the camera people working the games. Obviously
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be They're expected to get tight shots
Speaker 3: of some of these helmets. So people how I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess maybe during the huddle.
Speaker 2: But like, why would they do that. They don't work
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma State, you know what I'm saying, Like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if they're given an extra incentive that yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: You got to buy that time. I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 2: for them to put the QR code on there, they
Speaker 2: better hope there's tight shots. And if you have a
Speaker 2: game that's on ESPN, which I think the big twelves
Speaker 2: deal is with ESPN, ESPN is not going to tell
Speaker 2: their production people, hey, make sure we get some tight
Speaker 2: shots in the back of the helmet so fans can
Speaker 2: donate money to Oklahoma States in il that would mean
Speaker 2: they wouldn't do that, So I don't. I mean, clearly
Speaker 2: this happening. There's a way in which this can be
Speaker 2: done easier than than how I'm seeing it. I'm thinking, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: how will I be able to get a like, even
Speaker 2: if you're at the game, like, you won't be able
Speaker 2: to get unless you're right there on the sideline. You
Speaker 2: won't be able to get that.
Speaker 3: Imagine that a guy scores a touchdown, runs over to
Speaker 3: the student section or something, and everybody's got their their
Speaker 3: phone out trying to scan the QR and it's not
Speaker 3: gonna happen. But that's just imagine the site of what
Speaker 3: that would.
Speaker 2: Look like like. Maybe these guys can recreate this code
Speaker 2: and post it on their social media's and all that,
Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, this is from Brett McMurphy. It
Speaker 2: says Oklahom State will wear QR codes on their helmets
Speaker 2: this season, linking a general linking to the general team
Speaker 2: fund for every student athlete on the roster. It's believed
Speaker 2: to mark first time a college football team will wear
Speaker 2: QR codes in the regular season games to promote players
Speaker 2: earning potential. Again, I just don't understand how this is
Speaker 2: gonna work now you can mean it's I think everybody
Speaker 2: watches TV now in a way to where you could
Speaker 2: pause it, like if it's live, right, Like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know what platform wouldn't give you the ability to
Speaker 2: do that, so maybe you could you could keep that
Speaker 2: in mind, like hey they did, because it's not gonna
Speaker 2: if you are somebody that plays, especially quarterback, like running
Speaker 2: back off. I don't know, Like I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: visualize the shots that you see in action, like between plays.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if the technology is at a
Speaker 2: point where you've got a huddle and you got ten
Speaker 2: guys around and there's seven of them where you can
Speaker 2: you can see the back of their helmet, but like
Speaker 2: if you pause and try to take a picture, like,
Speaker 2: is it gonna work? Part of me says, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: or they wouldn't do it, But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I also just can't imagine the average person taking a
Speaker 3: few extra seconds wanting to do that.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, anything helps, right, like, and I think
Speaker 2: that's really the overall the overall thing here is that
Speaker 2: like they just want it, Like I don't know, I
Speaker 2: let's see, this is Mike Gundhy's comment or Mike Gundhy's
Speaker 2: statement that they that was included in the press release.
Speaker 2: This is a revolutionary step to help keep Oklahoma State
Speaker 2: football ahead of the game. He gives a chance for
Speaker 2: everyday fans across the world to have a real impact
Speaker 2: when it comes to supporting the Nile efforts for Cowboys football.
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled about this opportunity for our players. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: says I'd love to know how the scan rate, conversion rate,
Speaker 2: and ROI on what on that production. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of people in the comments here from the it looks
Speaker 2: like Matt Fortune I might have broke the story earlier today.
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like a lot of people are
Speaker 2: asking the same questions that that I'm asking Again. It's
Speaker 2: a cool idea, but I just, you know, like I
Speaker 2: don't know how it's gonna work. All right, quick break,
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