Speaker 1: Seven six fifty five Carosity Detalk Station, A very happy
Speaker 1: Thursday to you, made even happier and extra special the
Speaker 1: return of the Honorable Kenneth J. Blackwell. Currently he's a
Speaker 1: chair for the Center of Election Integrity over the American
Speaker 1: First Policy Insto. We all know him as former mayor
Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati, Treasurer of the State of Ohio,
Speaker 1: and Ohio Secretary of State, author and intellectual genius. He
Speaker 1: is Ken Blackwell. Welcome back to the fifty five Carssee
Speaker 1: morning show, my friend. It's always a pleasure having you.
Speaker 2: On top of the morning Brian. Good to be with you.
Speaker 1: So let's dive in on to tariffs. I think one
Speaker 1: of the most eye opening things which really was flying
Speaker 1: under everybody's radar. Donald Trump talked about reciprocal tariffs and
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, we're being tariffed and never really
Speaker 1: saw the flesh on the bones of the state and well,
Speaker 1: when you get a full list of the one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty or so tariffs along with what those countries
Speaker 1: have been for a long time charging us, it's a
Speaker 1: real eye open Like for example, China Lovey's a sixty
Speaker 1: seven percent tariff on US we're now at fifty four percent.
Speaker 1: But across the board, you know, Cambodia charges ninety seven
Speaker 1: percent on all of our goods. We're now at We
Speaker 1: just flapped a forty nine percent tariff on Cambodia. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much trade we have with them, but
Speaker 1: it's looks like that across the board. It has been
Speaker 1: an unfair playing field for a long time. And I'm
Speaker 1: just waking up to this cold water dose reality, Ken
Speaker 1: because I was a little concerned.
Speaker 2: Oh I am too. I look free and fair trade,
Speaker 2: we sort of forget that turn of phrase free and
Speaker 2: fair trade. With Donald Trump has understood for a long
Speaker 2: time is that there has not been fair trade and
Speaker 2: if it's not fair and it's not free. And so
Speaker 2: he's just trying to balance the scale. And I think that,
Speaker 2: like you, initially, I was saying, Okay, this guy's going
Speaker 2: against the orthodoxy of free traders, and in the final analysis,
Speaker 2: he's understood better than most what is at the essence
Speaker 2: of free and fair trade. And like I said, and
Speaker 2: like you just described, he's balancing the scale. And I
Speaker 2: think that he also has an understanding something that you
Speaker 2: and I have talked about before, and that is the
Speaker 2: nature of capital. Capital seeks the path of lease resistance
Speaker 2: and greatest opportunity. And what he is trying to do
Speaker 2: is to create an environment where capital is in sight
Speaker 2: attracted back to the United States. And what he is
Speaker 2: using as a guide post is what he was able
Speaker 2: to do in his first term when he changed the
Speaker 2: direction of about three billion dollars in capital, and that
Speaker 2: translated into economic growth, job creation, putting people back to
Speaker 2: work and giving them a chance to to build a
Speaker 2: better future for for themselves and and and their families. Uh.
Speaker 2: And so I mean this, this is this is uh
Speaker 2: a tough but I think a pretty smart call on
Speaker 2: on his part. Uh. And the one thing that uh
Speaker 2: he knows and that you and I have talked about before,
Speaker 2: and I'll use a Turner phrase of the great Satchure page,
Speaker 2: and that is that it is damn difficult to steal
Speaker 2: second base if you want to keep a foot on
Speaker 2: first base. Uh. Great face, great a great base. Run
Speaker 2: us actually know how to take a risk and and
Speaker 2: and and this is a measured risk of doing the
Speaker 2: right thing, even in the playing field. Uh. So Uh,
Speaker 2: that's that's where we are.
Speaker 3: And Uh.
Speaker 2: One of the things that he also understands that you
Speaker 2: and I have talked about over the years is that
Speaker 2: dogs don't bark at park cars, and so he has
Speaker 2: to go wow dogs because they're not just bucking like uh,
Speaker 2: like crazy.
Speaker 1: A couple of great analogies there. I love it, Ken Blackwell,
Speaker 1: Now I think we have to acknowledge there's going to
Speaker 1: be some at least short term pain. If we get
Speaker 1: some business back in the United States, the long term
Speaker 1: gains could be very significant. That'd be wonderful for the
Speaker 1: US economy and for US job creation. But if you
Speaker 1: are imposing UH tariffs on imported goods, and lord knows
Speaker 1: we import a lot of goods, it is going to
Speaker 1: have somewhat of an inflationary effect, is it not.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's going to have a long sustaining
Speaker 2: inflationary effect, but you're right. I mean, there will be
Speaker 2: some ratchet up of prices. But look, one of the
Speaker 2: things that we I think we should come to realize
Speaker 2: is that there has been a mindless destruction of manufacturing
Speaker 2: capacity UH in the United States. It is not that
Speaker 2: we've done totally away with our capacity to manufactured goods
Speaker 2: and to generate service service. A broader service industry. But
Speaker 2: we have done I think, great damage to our manufacturing capacity. Uh,
Speaker 2: and that's one of the things that he's trying to
Speaker 2: to h to re establish, and that is a manufacturing
Speaker 2: base that is that is growing at a rate that
Speaker 2: not only creates jobs, but puts us back in control of.
Speaker 3: Our national national security.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, sometimes you just can't have You can't
Speaker 2: build muscle mass without in tract build enough a little
Speaker 2: muscle fatigue. Yes, sure, as you well.
Speaker 1: Ken Blackwell, isn't a lot of the problem with difficulty
Speaker 1: in manufacturing this country and losing manufacturing capacity in this
Speaker 1: country the product of self inflicted wounds. I mean, regulation
Speaker 1: burden is insane, Environmental burdens are insane, Litigation burdens are crazy.
Speaker 1: And this whole idea of climate change, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a preposterous notion. I think we can get enough energy
Speaker 1: to run these run our business and industry with windmills
Speaker 1: and solar panels. And yet that's what is inflicted on us.
Speaker 1: It's cost, it's driven the price of energy up. It's
Speaker 1: only been recently that we're now trying to at least
Speaker 1: the conceptual idea of embracing nuclear power, which seems to
Speaker 1: have satisfied all the climate change alarmist needs because it
Speaker 1: doesn't produce any emissions. And they have modular reactors now
Speaker 1: which are easily built, very small footprint, and can well,
Speaker 1: let's face it, it can run an entire artificial intelligence
Speaker 1: computer network. And that's why I think we're getting there.
Speaker 1: But the Trump administration is lisa taking in all the
Speaker 1: above approach, which should lower the cost of doing business
Speaker 1: in the United States.
Speaker 2: Couldn't sid couldn't have said it any better myself, Brian. Look,
Speaker 2: he understands that high taxes bundles over red tape. Again
Speaker 2: going back to what we said, that runs capital away,
Speaker 2: you know, creating an atmosphere where capital seeks the path
Speaker 2: for leases distance and greatest opportunity. And one of the
Speaker 2: realities is the way we were able to build an
Speaker 2: accelerated UH growth in our economy and create jobs was
Speaker 2: was that we in fact had created an environment that
Speaker 2: attracted capital and and and look it's it's it's been
Speaker 2: smart even in Cincinnati. UH the times of our most
Speaker 2: productive period of our most productive periods of time had
Speaker 2: had it's been when we in fact have adopted policies
Speaker 2: that expand the UH low tax rates, but expand the
Speaker 2: tax base so that you have actually more people working,
Speaker 2: more people giving. And that's that's a real smart approach.
Speaker 2: But when you start to tax, when you start to
Speaker 2: chase food's dreams, when you start to put bundles of
Speaker 2: of uh regulations on on capital, what we see as
Speaker 2: capital freeing.
Speaker 3: Uh and and and in.
Speaker 2: The audience, just look at Cincinnati when you've had bundles
Speaker 2: of red tape, when you've had high taxes, We've had
Speaker 2: a very difficult time keeping.
Speaker 3: Our jobs and our.
Speaker 2: Tax producers. Yeah, and and and that that same applies for.
Speaker 3: The United States.
Speaker 2: Uh and and President Trump has has a strategy. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's worked. Uh And again, Uh, this
Speaker 2: guy is willing to put the chips on on on
Speaker 2: this play, stendorships on this play.
Speaker 1: Well, Ken Black Life can only hope that the mayor
Speaker 1: and the members of the city Council heard your words
Speaker 1: in that regard, because they're going to the polar opposite direction.
Speaker 1: And I don't need to dwell on the City of
Speaker 1: Cincinnati issues, but Lord Almighty micromanaging neighborhoods telling them they
Speaker 1: can and cannot do the regulatory burdens and challenges to
Speaker 1: develop and have smaller developers takeover properties convert them into
Speaker 1: businesses or living spaces. That's all basically been roadblocked by
Speaker 1: our city council, and it's not doing anything by way
Speaker 1: of bringing people into a welcoming environment that facilitates what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Well, let's pivot over real quick on
Speaker 1: this whole idea. You know, at one point, I think
Speaker 1: Elon Musk the darling of the global warming climate change people,
Speaker 1: because he created the best electric vehicle on the planet
Speaker 1: and everybody wanted one, either the virtue signal or because
Speaker 1: they love the way the car works and operates it's
Speaker 1: zero emissions. But then this happens. Elon must starts identifying
Speaker 1: how much fraud, waste and abuse there is in government.
Speaker 1: He hasn't stopped Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid, but he
Speaker 1: sure has identified a whole lot of areas where there
Speaker 1: is fraud, waste, and abuse. That sounds like a good
Speaker 1: thing for everybody. It's going to keep the programs alive
Speaker 1: for longer because he's eliminated the opportunity for people to
Speaker 1: up off the American taxpayer. And yet he's become this
Speaker 1: evil nazi fascist, call it what you will. They're vandalizing automobiles,
Speaker 1: they're calling for his head. This makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 1: Ken Blackwell, can you make any sense of it or
Speaker 1: can you at least react to what's going on with
Speaker 1: Elon musk.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just this gangster opportunism on the part of
Speaker 2: the radical radical left and the weaknees in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2: They know that President Trump had been elected by a
Speaker 2: clear majority of the voting electric that he in fact
Speaker 2: had got three hundred and twelve Electoral College volks, which
Speaker 2: is a hefty margin, well over two seven needed. So
Speaker 2: and he's a fighter. So they what they've done. They
Speaker 2: picked the target that they were angry with because in
Speaker 2: their view, he had abandoned them too. He is a
Speaker 2: white South African uh and and and therefore and he
Speaker 2: was rich and so for the radical left, that made
Speaker 2: him a much easier target than a popularly elect their president.
Speaker 2: And so that's what they're trying to because they they've
Speaker 2: found him at their rich target of opportunity to start
Speaker 2: to weaken what they see as a as an alliance
Speaker 2: that that's pretty hard to beat. So they tried to
Speaker 2: chip away using using the themes of the Hollywood and
Speaker 2: that is create the venom.
Speaker 1: And well, and they're incapable of explaining why exactly it
Speaker 1: is they think it's okay to burn up a tesla.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen interview after interview or efforts to
Speaker 1: speak with some of these people by members of the
Speaker 1: press and other citizen journalists, and they just don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it, it seems to me, and I
Speaker 1: want to get your reaction to this conclusion that I've reached.
Speaker 1: Of course, social media and when you have well funded
Speaker 1: far left individuals, you know, I throw out George Soros
Speaker 1: is a great illustration, but other well funded organizations you
Speaker 1: can easily get people together. Useful idiots is what I
Speaker 1: call them, to make a great showing. And yet I
Speaker 1: firmly believe they are a small sliver of the population.
Speaker 1: They just show up in what appear to be large
Speaker 1: numbers because they've been given orders to show up. We're
Speaker 1: going to be there from you know, eight am to
Speaker 1: noon on a Friday this particular day, and you get
Speaker 1: two hundred three undred people show up. It gets a
Speaker 1: lot of media press, but that's it. The most of
Speaker 1: us say, no, we shouldn't be spending twenty billion dollars
Speaker 1: on you know, Assesame Street program in Iraq or whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean that logic and reason trumps all of these
Speaker 1: useful idiots.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And what we what we actually have to
Speaker 2: keep our focus on is that we are the real target.
Speaker 2: You know, Elon is just an instrument as far as
Speaker 2: they're as far as they're concerned, and as you just describe,
Speaker 2: they have tried to define the target and the enemy.
Speaker 2: You know, Lewis Carroll through his character Humpty Dumpy once
Speaker 2: said he who defines is the masters. And so they
Speaker 2: are trying to define the characters of this play so
Speaker 2: that their war strategy, their tax strategy is easier for
Speaker 2: them to implement and accomplish. I will just tell you
Speaker 2: we need to understand that we the base of support
Speaker 2: for this forward looking economic expansion, national security strengthening strategy
Speaker 2: of Trump is we are the target. Yeah, our will
Speaker 2: you know, that's the that's the that's their target.
Speaker 1: Well, Ken blackwell, we had to push to push back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that I do it every day here
Speaker 1: in the morning show, Ken Black one, I know you
Speaker 1: do it every day in your work. Real quick here
Speaker 1: and before we part company, and I cannot thank you
Speaker 1: enough for spending time with my listeners and me to day.
Speaker 1: I love hearing you. What is the ultimate end game,
Speaker 1: this strategy of demonization and this and that. What do
Speaker 1: they hope to accomplish? In your mind? What's if they
Speaker 1: if they got their wish, their long term dream? What's
Speaker 1: it going to be? The destruction of America? Generally speaking?
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, they They are being driven by globalists. You know,
Speaker 2: they won't voters without borders. They think we can be
Speaker 2: a nation without borders. Uh. They they are trying to
Speaker 2: define or used a narratives that will eventually be destroy
Speaker 2: our country. Right. Look, we are at a hinge of
Speaker 2: history and and a hint that concept, a hinge of
Speaker 2: history refers to.
Speaker 4: A critical moment in time, often considered to be a
Speaker 4: turning point, where decisions and actions taken have a disproportionate
Speaker 4: impact on the future course of history.
Speaker 2: You know. And so what what what we're in a
Speaker 2: battle for is who's going to control the trajectory of civilization?
Speaker 2: And we must understand that the radical life you know,
Speaker 2: George Soros and others, they're trying to destroy Western civilization.
Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense, Ken Blackwell, God bless you, sir,
Speaker 1: thanks again for your time today. I look forward to
Speaker 1: talking with you again real soon. Keep up the great work.
Speaker 2: My friend God.
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