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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over
Speaker 2: the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence, and name was dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are
Speaker 2: you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around
Speaker 2: out here? Did you see what it was? It was
Speaker 2: enough out here? Look him near the window now and
Speaker 2: I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside
Speaker 2: this point. You're raw y? Hello, hit the boddy out here?
Speaker 2: What quent on the oltair's thought of a bit? Just
Speaker 2: about sixty ft nine? I don't know? Easy am out there? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm walking right head.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, spread Thanks for joining me. What I wanted
Speaker 3: to share with you today comes from Billy and three
Speaker 3: of his friends, a couple of buddies from college, and
Speaker 3: one of their girlfriends. This happened two years before the COVID,
Speaker 3: around twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. They're from Colorado. Billy had
Speaker 3: been up here to Alaska several times fishing out of
Speaker 3: Dillingham commercial salmon fishing, and on one of his last
Speaker 3: fishing trips before he retired from it.
Speaker 4: He was young.
Speaker 3: He just quit fishing. That's what I meant by retirement.
Speaker 3: What he decided to do was go with a couple
Speaker 3: of buddies he had met over the years commercial salmon
Speaker 3: fishing up to Lake Nurka, up the Wood River, up
Speaker 3: the Agula Walk and whatnot. He loved the area so
Speaker 3: much he went home and ragged about it. Finally, a
Speaker 3: couple of his college buddies and one of their girlfriends decided, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's go check out all this hype about Alaska. It
Speaker 3: took some time to plan because it's not cheap getting
Speaker 3: out in the wilds of Alaska, especially with what they
Speaker 3: were planning on doing, because it required flying in and
Speaker 3: bush piloting. They get it all down where they end up.
Speaker 3: I'll try to throw a screenshot of the area. It
Speaker 3: would be to the northwestern part of Lake Nerka, a
Speaker 3: place called Rainbow Basin. They initially thought they had reservations
Speaker 3: for the cabin at Joe Creek at Ott Bay there
Speaker 3: in Lake Nerka, but it didn't pan out, something to
Speaker 3: do with the website. They make it over. They pick
Speaker 3: a beautiful spot, lots of rocks, gravelly, not a whole
Speaker 3: lot of dirt, mossy, spongy, standard Alaska stuff, especially for
Speaker 3: the wood Tick Chick State Park area. They get back
Speaker 3: into the spot, they set up. They have triple arms, right,
Speaker 3: they have several triple arms. They were used these triple
Speaker 3: arms to warn the encroaching bear. They did all their
Speaker 3: safety stuff. They get their camp set up. This particular
Speaker 3: spot where they chose to camp was at the bottom
Speaker 3: of a wash, all gravel. It looked like it was
Speaker 3: basically for spring runoff. After that, maybe a little bit
Speaker 3: of trickle from rain, but it looked like a wash
Speaker 3: that they could camp on have an open area not
Speaker 3: being closed by all the vegetation. So they set up
Speaker 3: their blackout tent. They had a big, old two room
Speaker 3: blackout tent, which a blackout tent is just basically landed
Speaker 3: the midnight sun. You don't use a blackout tent or
Speaker 3: a dark tarp over year tent, it's gonna seem daylight
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven certain time of year, and it
Speaker 3: was towards the end of July. They had five to
Speaker 3: six hours of nighttime. At that point it's still light,
Speaker 3: so they get it set up the first couple of nights.
Speaker 3: Their triple arm was about a fifty foot circle, right,
Speaker 3: and they used fine fish line, you know that kind
Speaker 3: of thing, just to if a bear comes in, it'll
Speaker 3: pal shoot off a twelve gage round and wake everyone
Speaker 3: up and hopefully scare off the predator. Billy's buddy. We'll
Speaker 3: just name him Chuck, all right. Chuck was the most
Speaker 3: avid outdoorsman of the other three that he took with them. Well,
Speaker 3: named Dennis and Maria as the other two, so he
Speaker 3: got Billy Chuck. Dennis and Maria are the couple. Chuck
Speaker 3: be an outdoorsy guy. He decided after the first couple
Speaker 3: nights he had heard some weird grunting off in the distance.
Speaker 3: He wanted a little wider perimeter, to be a little
Speaker 3: more ready, because he said it sounded large. Whatever it was.
Speaker 3: Dennis and Maria they would sneak away and go by themselves,
Speaker 3: of course armed, but he would go armed with Maria
Speaker 3: and they would go nature walks, look around at the
Speaker 3: scenery together as a couple and get away from just
Speaker 3: the guys. On the third day they were out on
Speaker 3: just such an excursion. They got up just as the
Speaker 3: sun was coming up over the mountains beautiful. As they
Speaker 3: were walking along the same path they had the day before,
Speaker 3: they noticed that some of the blackberries and stuff were
Speaker 3: starting to form. They weren't nowhere near ready, but they
Speaker 3: were just checking out the berries. As they're doing so,
Speaker 3: they kept hearing a very sharp whistle from somewhere. It
Speaker 3: sounded like it was all around them at once, according
Speaker 3: to what they said now after the third or fourth whistle,
Speaker 3: because at first it was sporadic. The first couple were
Speaker 3: random and not very close together, and the last two
Speaker 3: to three were fairly close in succession. They didn't sound
Speaker 3: that far away, so they got a little creeped out
Speaker 3: by that retreated back to camp. They were one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty yards from camp something like that. As they
Speaker 3: were continuing back to camp, they continued to hear that
Speaker 3: whistle as though it was just near them, real sharp,
Speaker 3: real crisp. But they couldn't hear anything else. There was
Speaker 3: no sound of movement in the brush. And trust me,
Speaker 3: that time of year there's a lot of brush, all
Speaker 3: their willows, scrub brush. You know, you got fire weeds,
Speaker 3: you got all sorts of stuff. It was a bunch
Speaker 3: of vegetation. So they couldn't really see anything. They heard
Speaker 3: the whistles, though, very sharp, very crisp. They get back
Speaker 3: to camp, Chuck and Billy happened to be at camp.
Speaker 3: They were working on the trip perimeters while they were
Speaker 3: gone on their little walk. Chuck and Billy, from what
Speaker 3: Billy said, no sooner than Dennis and Maria were out
Speaker 3: of view, they were hearing a grunt. This grunt, he said,
Speaker 3: was so low you could almost not hear it. It
Speaker 3: was almost below the perception of sound. They were both
Speaker 3: feeling it when they were sitting by their campfire in
Speaker 3: their chairs, just sipping on coffee. They said they were
Speaker 3: feeling it in the framework of their little fold out chairs.
Speaker 3: They're feeling this low, grumbling growl sound creeped them out,
Speaker 3: so they yell out, hey bear, bear, bear, Hey bear bear. Now,
Speaker 3: remember Billy and Maria are on their little excursion at
Speaker 3: this time, so they both get up. They're armed. They're
Speaker 3: both walking around with their rifles, looking and saying, hey bear, bear,
Speaker 3: Hey bear. We're here bear, waiting for the bear to
Speaker 3: leave or to come in one of the two, because
Speaker 3: they felt that this grumbling, growling sound was so close
Speaker 3: it had to have been damn there on top of them.
Speaker 3: Not a sound. Once they got up and started calling out,
Speaker 3: all sounds stopped. It was dead quiet. He said, he
Speaker 3: doesn't even remember the mosquitos buzzing at this point. They
Speaker 3: were creeped out by that. So they're setting up a
Speaker 3: wider perimeter with more of these little trip alarms. Tennis
Speaker 3: Maria get back. They're like, hey, we heard this weird whistle.
Speaker 3: It followed us almost all the way back here, and
Speaker 3: then they exchanged stories about what's going on. They all
Speaker 3: thought it was super weird. So they decided, let's try
Speaker 3: to figure this out, stay close to camp and all
Speaker 3: together before any other excursions out. But two by two
Speaker 3: or whatever, let's figure this out because if it's a
Speaker 3: large bear, it could overwhelm two of us. So they
Speaker 3: decided to close the ranks, set up that perimeter, get
Speaker 3: everything nice and tidy because they had not been sleeping
Speaker 3: the best. They decided I did. Towards the midday, they
Speaker 3: were going to try to lay down for a nap.
Speaker 3: There was some weather moving in. It was looking like
Speaker 3: it was threatening to rain. It cooled off. They decided
Speaker 3: they're going to rejuvenate start again once we get up,
Speaker 3: so they going and they lay down. The clouds rolled in.
Speaker 3: It got drizzly, but they weren't too socked in. They
Speaker 3: could still see all the mountains, so the clouds hadn't
Speaker 3: come down. Chuck and Billy were on one half of
Speaker 3: this tent. It was a two room tent. Billy and
Speaker 3: Marie had the back portion. There was entrances on both
Speaker 3: sides and the divider in between that could be taken out.
Speaker 3: Billy and Chuck were discussing that weird grumbling. Meanwhile, Dennis
Speaker 3: and Maria they were talking about the whistling. So they're
Speaker 3: having simultaneous conversations about the same time of weirdness. Right,
Speaker 3: they all start laughing because they hear each other talking
Speaker 3: and they're like, Okay, we're getting really worked up. And
Speaker 3: they couldn't figure out why they were so scared. They
Speaker 3: didn't see anything. They just heard these noises, but they
Speaker 3: felt the They felt unnatural, fear, unwarranted. There was nothing
Speaker 3: to be so scared about that they were aware of.
Speaker 3: At this point, they chuck the laugh and they open
Speaker 3: up the divider and they're hanging out. They're all sitting
Speaker 3: going to circle on the floor at this point, just
Speaker 3: talking about whatever. As they're doing so, something starts hitting
Speaker 3: the tent don't and they sounded like little rocks hitting
Speaker 3: the tent. So they're like, what the hell is it
Speaker 3: starting to rain? They thought maybe hal was starting to
Speaker 3: come because of the clouds moving in and stuff. It's
Speaker 3: not far fetched. So they're sitting there. It's not all over.
Speaker 3: It's just one side of the tent that keeps getting
Speaker 3: hit by this rock. So they decide okay, because of
Speaker 3: Dennis and Maria's entryway on their side of the tent,
Speaker 3: someone could go out that entryway, obscuring them, leaving the
Speaker 3: tent from whatever's throwing these rocks. They wanted to see
Speaker 3: what was going on. Chuck, being the bravest of the bunch,
Speaker 3: according to Billy, grabs, his shotgun, goes out their portion
Speaker 3: of the exit, goes around, comes back to the backside,
Speaker 3: and starts peeking around the tent. As he's doing so,
Speaker 3: he could still hear the rocks hitting the tent, and
Speaker 3: he can hear some wishing of the brush on the
Speaker 3: opposite side of their camp, their camping area, so it's like,
Speaker 3: what the hell, So he jumps out with the shotgun
Speaker 3: real quick and yells, hey, stop throwing rocks. He thought
Speaker 3: maybe locals had followed him. They're having some fun or something.
Speaker 3: He didn't know. So as he jumps out and yells this,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he sees dark brown in the
Speaker 3: brush move away. As it's moving away, it had to
Speaker 3: have hit one of those chip things because bam, the
Speaker 3: round went off. So this thing all he saw was
Speaker 3: some barren in the brush. Trips to one of their
Speaker 3: little shotgun proximity alerts, all of a sudden, sounds like
Speaker 3: a freight train just boom, barreling away heading back towards
Speaker 3: Lake Nrka proper just tears off, So immediately he's shook.
Speaker 3: He didn't know what that was, and heard the trip
Speaker 3: alarm and figured, okay, that's one big fricking bear. That
Speaker 3: is one huge bear because all the noise it made.
Speaker 3: Everyone else came out armed, of course, trying to figure
Speaker 3: out and they can all listen to this thing move
Speaker 3: away as they're doing. So a couple moments pass, things
Speaker 3: are calming down, they're like that was one big bear.
Speaker 3: So they decided, let's go reset that triple arm, readjust it,
Speaker 3: make sure all the other ones are up and ready
Speaker 3: to function. So they go over Billy and Chuck. They
Speaker 3: go over. Chuck is standing guard. They're looking for signs
Speaker 3: of this thing that was in the brush, and they
Speaker 3: saw nothing. They saw a couple of broken limbs and
Speaker 3: some disrupted vegetation, but nothing definitive. Again, they're not like
Speaker 3: gravelly mossy stuff, so there wasn't really any impressions to
Speaker 3: be spoken of at this point. So they reset it.
Speaker 3: They make sure all the other lines, their little trip bires,
Speaker 3: are all set and good. Then they retreat back to
Speaker 3: the campground. Now they had to go into the vegetation
Speaker 3: a little ways. While they were in the vegetation, Dennis
Speaker 3: and Maria we're hearing the whistling again. It was at
Speaker 3: a distance, but they were hearing that same crisp, sharp whistle.
Speaker 3: So Billy and Chuck get back over to the camping area.
Speaker 3: They're like, listen and as they're being quiet, not a sound,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, from behind the tent, they
Speaker 3: hear that sharp whistle. They all turn. They're about twenty
Speaker 3: five feet from the tent. At this point, they all
Speaker 3: turn around look in that direction. Something big and brown
Speaker 3: just goes out of their view. It was like they
Speaker 3: turned just a moment too late just to catch something
Speaker 3: brown moving back off into the alder willows right. So
Speaker 3: immediately guns are up and they're yelling, hey bear, hey bear.
Speaker 3: Chuck be an outdoorsy guy tells them all bears don't whistle.
Speaker 3: Bears don't whistle. So they're going around the back of
Speaker 3: the tent. Dennis is staying with Maria, They're staying put.
Speaker 3: Billy and Chuck are going around both sides of the
Speaker 3: tent back to where they saw this brown streak. As
Speaker 3: they get to the backside, Chuck is saying, hey, bears
Speaker 3: don't whistle. Dude, I don't know what that is, but
Speaker 3: bears don't whistle, and they're not that tall in the shrubs.
Speaker 3: Whatever that is is big. Again, Everyone outside of Chuck
Speaker 3: who's had the most wilderness experience, they're just like, what
Speaker 3: do we do. They're looking at Chuck for guidance, and
Speaker 3: Billy said they put a lot of pressure on Chuck
Speaker 3: for answers and he didn't have any, and they felt
Speaker 3: bad after. But in those moments of terror because they
Speaker 3: didn't know what the hell was going on. They were
Speaker 3: relying heavily on Chuck's outdoor knowledge. Movement it goes off,
Speaker 3: They hear it moving, but they didn't want to follow
Speaker 3: because how large it was. He said. The initial brush
Speaker 3: behind the tent was about five to six foot tall,
Speaker 3: and then there was taller alders behind that went up
Speaker 3: to about twelve ish foot tall. He's estimating this thing
Speaker 3: was almost as tall as a background shrubbery. They saw
Speaker 3: from what would be halfway up its body move away
Speaker 3: from them.
Speaker 1: Freaked out and stay tuned for more sasquatchy out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: After these messages.
Speaker 3: And time passes. After this, they settle down, they all
Speaker 3: decide to start cooking. What they end up doing they
Speaker 3: make a half moon shape with their chairs all facing
Speaker 3: back behind the tent. Not the brightest because then they
Speaker 3: got their back to a whole lot of area. They're
Speaker 3: in this half moon shape around their little fire pit.
Speaker 3: They're cooking, they're discussing, they're debating. Bigfoot comes up. They
Speaker 3: start talking about what they know about Bigfoot because of
Speaker 3: the size, the color of it, just the weirdness. They
Speaker 3: discuss Bigfoot, and they don't have really much. They decide, okay,
Speaker 3: we'll just play it by ear now. It gets on
Speaker 3: in the evening and gets into dusk. Once it gets
Speaker 3: into dusk, everyone is tired there. Adrenaline's been dumping all day.
Speaker 3: They decide, okay, let's move the tint from where it's
Speaker 3: at more into the center of this gravelly area instead
Speaker 3: of over by those bushes. That way, we'll center it
Speaker 3: in between our trip circumference where they got the trip lines.
Speaker 3: So they rearrange everything. They have to shuffle some rocks
Speaker 3: because it's uneven ground and stuff. And while they're doing that,
Speaker 3: Dennis and Maria they're standing watch, keeping an eye around. Again.
Speaker 3: All their focuses in the last place they saw this thing.
Speaker 3: Anytime they're doing anything, they're constantly looking back to that point,
Speaker 3: which is a mistake because obviously they move around as
Speaker 3: they're doing so, Dennis and Maria are critiquing, oh, you
Speaker 3: want to pull that leg of the thing out that
Speaker 3: they're getting the tent squared away or whatever. As they're
Speaker 3: doing so, a rock hits the tent and it came
Speaker 3: from behind them. They turn around and about one hundred
Speaker 3: yards away they're estimating. They've self admitted they're not the
Speaker 3: best at distance, but they're guessing. About one hundred yards away,
Speaker 3: they saw that big, dark brown figure. Now it's silhouetted
Speaker 3: and looks almost black. They barely make out the brown
Speaker 3: standing off in the brush almost one hundred yards away.
Speaker 3: Maria screams, Chuck and Billy stop what they're doing, jump
Speaker 3: up and look. All of them turn and see this
Speaker 3: thing standing silhouetted in the brush almost one hundred yards away,
Speaker 3: give or take again. They self proclaimed they weren't the
Speaker 3: best with distance, but they're guessing. Freak out rifles up,
Speaker 3: starts screaming, hey, we're over here, we're over here. You're
Speaker 3: not allowed to be here. Just but whatever they were yelling,
Speaker 3: they're trying to make a bunch of noise. This thing,
Speaker 3: according to what Billy said, calmly did a one pint
Speaker 3: eighty and walked off into the brush to where they
Speaker 3: couldn't see it. It was just obscured by the shadows
Speaker 3: and gone. So now they're super freaked out. They're like,
Speaker 3: that's a freaking bigfoot. We need to do something. They
Speaker 3: knew they weren't getting out of there immediately. They had
Speaker 3: three more days before the flight came back in where
Speaker 3: they were supposed to meet their bush plane at Lake NERCA.
Speaker 3: Now they knew this, so what they did was, as
Speaker 3: a group, they all went and gathered firewood as much
Speaker 3: as they could together. They hand chopped down some beetle
Speaker 3: killed spruce. They did what they had to do to
Speaker 3: get a large amount of firewood. They're tired, They've been
Speaker 3: all the traveling and stuff, so they're exhausted at this point,
Speaker 3: according to what Billy was saying, But they were so
Speaker 3: adrenalized from what was going on they weren't gonna just
Speaker 3: go to bed, you know what I mean. So they
Speaker 3: get the fire going. They're busy chopping away. They're using
Speaker 3: their little handsaws and stuff, bucking it up into usable pieces,
Speaker 3: which they could have just slid it in as it
Speaker 3: burned out, but they were new to it, so they
Speaker 3: were doing what they felt they had to do to
Speaker 3: get enough firewood to keep it light around this little open,
Speaker 3: gravelly kind of area they were in. Now, as they're
Speaker 3: doing so, Chuck had just got done whacking at the
Speaker 3: tree with the hatchet that they had basically stuck it
Speaker 3: in it and just left it there. It was like,
Speaker 3: I'm done for now, kind of taking a break. So
Speaker 3: they all retreat back around to the fire they got going,
Speaker 3: and now they're set around to where everyone can see
Speaker 3: over everyone else's shoulders so no one can come up
Speaker 3: from behind them. At this point, it still wasn't dark
Speaker 3: get but it was dusk enough to where Dennis breaks out.
Speaker 3: He had brought along some whiskey, so they start taking
Speaker 3: SIPs and passing it around calm the nurse. As they're
Speaker 3: doing solf, they hear what sounds like a hllacious scream.
Speaker 3: According to what Billy said, it sounded like it was
Speaker 3: happening all around them at once. Scream. He said it
Speaker 3: was really low and really high pitched at the same time.
Speaker 3: It was so loud they were all putting their hands
Speaker 3: over their ears. So as soon as that scream stops,
Speaker 3: they all jump up right because while the scream's going on,
Speaker 3: they're hunker down, like what the hell scream stops, they
Speaker 3: all jump up, turn around, facing opposite ways from each
Speaker 3: other with the guns to try to figure out what
Speaker 3: the hell now. Maria just had one of the guys's handguns.
Speaker 3: She was really freaked out. So Dennis, seeing this, said,
Speaker 3: come stand by me, give me the handgun because she
Speaker 3: could have accidentally hurt somebody. She was so freaked out.
Speaker 3: She hands him the pistol. He tucks it in his
Speaker 3: coat pocket. As they're sitting there discussing what's going on.
Speaker 3: Just on that backside where the tent was. Earlier when
Speaker 3: they first saw the brown light, they see eye shine
Speaker 3: from the flames from the fire, not far into that shrub.
Speaker 3: They just happened to be looking that direction, he said.
Speaker 3: They were less than forty feet from that when they
Speaker 3: saw the eye shine way up in the brush. Shreaked
Speaker 3: him out. Chuck saw it because he heard him talking
Speaker 3: and was looking around everywhere noticed it. When they noticed it,
Speaker 3: came running over beside them, pulled up the shotgun and says,
Speaker 3: you get out of here. I'm gonna shoot you. Get
Speaker 3: out of here. I'm gonna shoot. Yet not a noise
Speaker 3: is made, so he shoots into the air in that direction.
Speaker 3: The eyes disappear. It was dark. They didn't see any movement,
Speaker 3: but they couldn't even if there was movement, it was
Speaker 3: just too dark. There was nothing they could really make
Speaker 3: out other than the eye shine was gone. So now
Speaker 3: everyone's hyper vigilant they're freaked out. They decide, Okay, we're
Speaker 3: gonna have to do this in shifts. Some of us
Speaker 3: need to get some sleep too, sleep too, stand guard.
Speaker 3: Dennis and Maria volunteered to stand guard first, and Chuck
Speaker 3: and Billy are like, no, you two get some sleep.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Stepped as late as we can, and you guys can
Speaker 3: relieve us. Towards the morning they were all amped up.
Speaker 3: Dennis and Maria get in there. Dennis wasn't able to sleep.
Speaker 3: Maria fell asleep after crying for a bit, after she
Speaker 3: calmed down and felt safe for Dennis more in an
Speaker 3: enclosed environment, which false sense of security, however, it helped
Speaker 3: her fall asleep. It's going on, nothing's happening. It's dead
Speaker 3: quiet most of the night now. From what Billy said,
Speaker 3: him and Chuck were sipping the whiskey, putting a little
Speaker 3: bits in their coffee, so they'd take a little sip
Speaker 3: and put them in the coffee and ship their coffee.
Speaker 3: They weren't getting drunk, they weren't like chugging it down
Speaker 3: or anything, but they were just taking SIPs every once
Speaker 3: in a while, passing it around, trying to lose the
Speaker 3: edge they were on. They were on the verge of
Speaker 3: freaking out. As the morning started coming on, the light
Speaker 3: was getting brighter off in the distance to the east,
Speaker 3: it was getting lighter. Everything was still pitch black as
Speaker 3: far as silhouettes, as far trees are concerned. They started
Speaker 3: cracking jokes with each other just to relieve some of
Speaker 3: the stress. And they're saying stupid mama jokes. You know
Speaker 3: your mama was so fat, she jumped near got stuck.
Speaker 3: You know, just silly stuff, just to break that stress.
Speaker 3: As they're doing this and start laughing, they hear from
Speaker 3: the direction they all saw the one turn and walk
Speaker 3: off into the darkness. They heard an imitation of Chuck's laugh,
Speaker 3: because he had a very unique laugh. They heard an
Speaker 3: imitation of it from that same direction. Instantly, all laughing stopped.
Speaker 3: They stay quiet. Dennis hears them, because Dennis didn't fall asleep,
Speaker 3: but he didn't want to wake Maria up because she
Speaker 3: had just fallen asleep not too long before and he
Speaker 3: wanted her to rest. So he's in the tent listening
Speaker 3: and speaks out to let him know, hey, what was that.
Speaker 3: Because he heard the imitation of the laugh, Billy and
Speaker 3: Chuck laughed the loudest second, and then immediately after that
Speaker 3: was the imitation laugh, which was identical, very creepy stuff.
Speaker 3: They say, oh, we don't know whatever things go on.
Speaker 3: They sit back down, they're looking in that direction. They're
Speaker 3: on point.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: They're damn there's schizophrenic with their panic, and I don't
Speaker 3: blame them, because that's some real creepy stuff happening. And
Speaker 3: it's dark all around them, you know what. They're keeping
Speaker 3: the fire going. They're trying to laugh it off, and
Speaker 3: then this crap's happening, so they're freaked out at their
Speaker 3: wits end. It gets closer to daylight and Chuck is
Speaker 3: really feeling stressed out and needs to lay down. He's
Speaker 3: getting a headache from just the stress of everything. So
Speaker 3: Dennis wakes up Maria, they come out. Billy was still
Speaker 3: wound up. Chuck went in figured, okay, three sets of eyes,
Speaker 3: I'm good. He crashes out for a couple hours. He
Speaker 3: gets up, comes out, it's more daylight. Everyone's calmed down.
Speaker 3: There's birds chirping and stuff. Now it feels a lot
Speaker 3: more natural, not so ominous. Everyone calms down. Chuck is up,
Speaker 3: tells everyone else, hey, you guys look exhausted. Get some sleep.
Speaker 3: I'll cook us something. I'll keep an eye out. Doings
Speaker 3: seem calm. There's birds chirping and stuff. No predators around you.
Speaker 3: Guys get sleep. They'll retreat in there quickly. They're all
Speaker 3: dead dog tired. They get some sleep. Chuck cooks a breakfast, still, birds,
Speaker 3: sound and stuff. He's feeling calm. He's not feeling watched
Speaker 3: like he had been most of the night. He was
Speaker 3: just finishing up percolating some coffee for everyone to go
Speaker 3: with the breakfast he had just made. As he was
Speaker 3: doing so, he set the coffee little percolating pot, little
Speaker 3: aluminum job on a rock next to the fire. No sooner,
Speaker 3: and he let go of that handle. A little rock
Speaker 3: from off to his right hand side came and binked,
Speaker 3: hit that coffee pot and bounced the little pebble bounce
Speaker 3: back into the fire. Immediately, he stands up and looks
Speaker 3: at direction in the darkness of the trees. He said,
Speaker 3: about fifty to sixty yards, just on the opposite side
Speaker 3: of a little bitty nothing of a stream, little creek king.
Speaker 3: This thing was standing there, all dark and silhouetted. He
Speaker 3: just looked at it and said and yells out, hey,
Speaker 3: get the hell out of here. I'm gonna shoot you.
Speaker 3: So he raises the firearm. As soon as he does,
Speaker 3: he said, this thing. Because it was dark and silhouetted,
Speaker 3: he couldn't see all the movement, but he noticed that
Speaker 3: it very rapidly disappeared into the darkness, like super fast,
Speaker 3: he said. As he was bringing up the gun yelling,
Speaker 3: it was already motionings and was gone. It's freaked out.
Speaker 3: Everyone heard him yelling and stuff. They all come out
Speaker 3: with the guns and stuff as they do. So Billy,
Speaker 3: who was the last one coming out, he was looking
Speaker 3: for where he had set down the other rifle because
Speaker 3: he left it outside in case Chuck needed another rifle.
Speaker 3: Chuck said, his land over by the fire Billy's looking
Speaker 3: for the rifle, and as he's doing so, the rifle
Speaker 3: was right in front of his face. It just got
Speaker 3: obscured by some of the stuff he was using to
Speaker 3: cook earlier, so he wasn't seeing it initially. At he's
Speaker 3: rummaging through stuff they're cook wearing stuff, and then sees
Speaker 3: the butt of it, and just as he reaches the
Speaker 3: grab the butt of the rifle to pull it out,
Speaker 3: his shoulder gets hit by a small pan weird out.
Speaker 3: He turns around and looks behind them where they initially
Speaker 3: had saw the brown streak from behind the tent before
Speaker 3: they moved it. There's silhouette standing there. So he grabs
Speaker 3: a rifle, turns around. This thing gone takes off. They
Speaker 3: hear this time. Though, they hear it take off and
Speaker 3: away from them. They're all fried. At this point. They
Speaker 3: have a couple more days before this plane comes back.
Speaker 3: They all quickly eat, quickly, pack up things, get things
Speaker 3: squared away, people on guard. They make their way back
Speaker 3: down towards at Bay where they initially were going to
Speaker 3: be at the cabin. So they had ten miles to
Speaker 3: hike through rough terrain to get back to where they
Speaker 3: wanted to be, somewhere else near a structure. There was
Speaker 3: a cabin there. They packed up their stuff, they went
Speaker 3: on down. It took them most of the day packing everything.
Speaker 3: There's four of them just maneuvering, negotiating and making a trail.
Speaker 3: When they had to get back over to day at
Speaker 3: Nurkle Lake. There Joe's Creek where this cabin was. They
Speaker 3: get back over there. No one's there. The people who
Speaker 3: were using it were probably out on a skiff. Somewhere
Speaker 3: fishing or whatever. So they start setting their stuff down
Speaker 3: and they're just chilling along the walk through that stuff.
Speaker 3: Periodically a rock would be thrown, they would hear a
Speaker 3: sharp whistle at a distance. They stated that every step
Speaker 3: of the way out of there, coming back towards Lake
Speaker 3: Nerka Proper felt like they were being watched, stalked, all
Speaker 3: of it. They said. The hair didn't go down on
Speaker 3: their necks until they almost got to that cabin, and
Speaker 3: then everything dissipated. They ended up negotiating with the people
Speaker 3: who had a skiff with them that were staying at
Speaker 3: the cabin to get a ride back to Elecnigek. So
Speaker 3: they ended up getting a ride back there. I ended
Speaker 3: their trip a couple of days early. I want to
Speaker 3: thank them for sharing their experience there at Rainbow Basin.
Speaker 3: Just creepy stuff. It seemed like constant, consistent history, terrifying
Speaker 3: for those who've never dealt with it, even for those
Speaker 3: who have The ominous figure in the darkness, the whistles,
Speaker 3: the groaning, just creepy stuff. I want to thank Billy
Speaker 3: for getting the whole thing together from different perspectives, because
Speaker 3: I was having a hard time getting a hold of
Speaker 3: Dennis to talk to him about him and Marius, Dane
Speaker 3: and Chuck as well. So Billy did that for me,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. It's a bit too noisy for
Speaker 3: me to find a spot around here. Everything's melting early
Speaker 3: springtime Alaska. I'm not trudging through any snow. I can
Speaker 3: tell you that much, because when we talk about unstable
Speaker 3: snow appier meaning it looks solid, but then you can
Speaker 3: sink right down into the river or damn or anything.
Speaker 3: I'm back in nineteen eighty seven, thanks again to Derek,
Speaker 3: not his given name, but one he asked me to use.
Speaker 3: He was married to a lady named Gabrielle at the
Speaker 3: time he called Gabby. He was an independent photographer. He
Speaker 3: would sell his duck photos and various other things to
Speaker 3: magazines place like ducks unlimited, in other places waterfowl pictures.
Speaker 3: They were up the Moulchattana River about this time of year.
Speaker 3: The snow the rivers just went out, meaning the ice
Speaker 3: just broke out. They were staying at some cabins. They
Speaker 3: had very expensive cameras. A couple other people in the
Speaker 3: group besides him and his wife, one guy was there
Speaker 3: to film Bears him and his partner went off to
Speaker 3: film bears for about four or five days. They were
Speaker 3: looking for a perfect spot to set up their blinds,
Speaker 3: some geese and other stuff for coming in. They were
Speaker 3: looking for a specific species of duck that they were
Speaker 3: trying to get a photo of. There's a academic call
Speaker 3: it a lake.
Speaker 1: It is so big.
Speaker 3: It's a pond in the marsh just west of those
Speaker 3: cabins they went through. He was armed bear spury, him
Speaker 3: and his wife Gabby. They went and set up these
Speaker 3: blinds near this really big, small lake. It's all marsh,
Speaker 3: so it's hard to call it a lake. It's marsh
Speaker 3: as hell out there. There's trees backed by the Molchana River.
Speaker 3: But don't you break out of that tree line. You're
Speaker 3: in the marsh. It's like walking on a waterbed, and
Speaker 3: it's not the most safe place to be. But he
Speaker 3: was adventurous. It took a lot to scare Derek, so
Speaker 3: he was confident in what he was doing. He went out.
Speaker 3: He was setting up a natural blind using the dead
Speaker 3: grasses there and stuff and some branches he had drug
Speaker 3: with them. Over the course of about three to four days,
Speaker 3: Gabby's did hers the same about that, not quite one
Speaker 3: hundred yards, so they weren't photographing each other in each
Speaker 3: other's background. You got to understand from what Derek was saying,
Speaker 3: is a very expensive camera, close to thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: It was analog, it was not digital. So he had
Speaker 3: a bunch of film canisters and whatnot with him as well.
Speaker 3: So what he ended up doing over the course of
Speaker 3: building the blind, he was leaving small bits of supplies there, film,
Speaker 3: nitnoid things, no snacks or anything like that. He was
Speaker 3: worried about the bears coming through and just marauding everything.
Speaker 3: Once he were set up, it was about day four
Speaker 3: or five. He gets there before daylight. Now you got
Speaker 3: to remember land at the midnight sign, it doesn't totally
Speaker 3: get dark, but they came in before the birds were
Speaker 3: flying around. That was his biggest concern was getting there
Speaker 3: to get these wildlife shots that they've been just aching
Speaker 3: to get done. His first trip to Alaska, now I
Speaker 3: apologize second trip. First trip was Lake Ilamna the year before,
Speaker 3: they were photographing resident population of sea lions there. He
Speaker 3: set up. He gets there about four ish in the morning.
Speaker 3: It's light out, but not full on daylight. Everything was
Speaker 3: still in silhouette, broad open tundra in front of him
Speaker 3: in the marshlands, no more for anything to really hide
Speaker 3: any bears around. They would easily pick up on real easily,
Speaker 3: and they'd stick out like a sore thumb. This particular morning,
Speaker 3: he's sitting there, he took a couple pictures of some
Speaker 3: snowbe set came in. It was too low a light.
Speaker 3: He didn't like what was going on with trying to
Speaker 3: get his focus and filters and all that with the lenses,
Speaker 3: so he decided to wait a little bit since he
Speaker 3: was damn there out a film on that one. He
Speaker 3: pops it open to change out the film. While he's
Speaker 3: doing so, he hears a weird kind of gurgly snort
Speaker 3: sound similar to the sea lions he heard blowing water
Speaker 3: out when they came above water, so he thought it
Speaker 3: was weird it peaked up above his blind didn't really
Speaker 3: notice anything initially, was sitting there, funnling with this stuff,
Speaker 3: and here's this low gurgling, kind of a growling sound,
Speaker 3: very similar to the sea lions, but not quite he said.
Speaker 3: It sounded a lot deeper, so that really caught his attention, Like,
Speaker 3: what the hell is a sea lion doing in this pond.
Speaker 3: It got his attention, so he stops what he's doing.
Speaker 3: He gets up, sits up higher to look over the blind,
Speaker 3: and he sees something brown moving around in the water,
Speaker 3: and is that a beaver? So he's trying to figure
Speaker 3: out what he's seeing, and then he goes back to
Speaker 3: what he's doing. He figures he'd gets some film in
Speaker 3: the camera and take a picture of the beaver maybe
Speaker 3: or maybe there is a sea lion. He didn't know.
Speaker 3: He was just trying to figure out that's weird because
Speaker 3: it didn't come from anywhere. It just showed up in
Speaker 3: the water. As he's doing so, he hears splashing of
Speaker 3: the water real close to the edge where his blind was.
Speaker 3: Now where he had ended up sitting up his blind,
Speaker 3: he had made this half moon shaped path back and
Speaker 3: forth where he initially wanted a blind, but it was
Speaker 3: too marshy everything was sinking down, so he had walking
Speaker 3: back and forth moving the initial blind to where he
Speaker 3: ended up being. He had a probably two and a
Speaker 3: half three foot wide little trailway through the marsh because
Speaker 3: going back and forth they would drop the ground water
Speaker 3: and it would be on top. He was going right
Speaker 3: next to his old tracks, just walking back and forth,
Speaker 3: and it was about two and a half three foot wide.
Speaker 3: The rest was dried grass.
Speaker 1: So on.
Speaker 3: As he's hearing this water gurgling sound, he lays up
Speaker 3: a little higher. When he hears a water trickling sound
Speaker 3: and another grunt and kind of noise, he gets up
Speaker 3: from what he's doing. He still hasn't put the film
Speaker 3: in the camera yet. He's looking up higher, doesn't know
Speaker 3: if anything, and then he stands up fully to look
Speaker 3: over because he was pretty clear to the water's edge.
Speaker 3: When he did, he noticed this thing staring at him.
Speaker 3: He said it was like a buckskin colored skin, tongue,
Speaker 3: black looking eyes, really dark hair, all fleshed out from
Speaker 3: the water. Of course, he said he didn't notice any ears,
Speaker 3: but he made eye contact with this thing for about
Speaker 3: he said it felt like a million years, but it
Speaker 3: was probably just seconds. He's basically in shock. What the
Speaker 3: hell am I looking at? This thing stands up, exposing
Speaker 3: more of its body, raises a hand out of the
Speaker 3: water and puts it up on the edge of this pond.
Speaker 3: Now he is damn near having a heart attack at
Speaker 3: this point because where it set his hand is less
Speaker 3: than five feet from him. This thing is literally just
Speaker 3: on the other side of his blind. He said. If
Speaker 3: he had a standard sized house broom, he could have
Speaker 3: reached out with the house broom and poked this thing
Speaker 3: in the chest. That's how far away it was.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back after these.
Speaker 3: Messages, he said. Standing up in the water. It came
Speaker 3: about midriff, just below the chest of what he could
Speaker 3: see in the one arm before he collapsed down behind
Speaker 3: the blind, shaking real hard, trying to hurry up and
Speaker 3: get the film into the camera. As he's doing this,
Speaker 3: this guttural growl reverberates through his little area, freaking him
Speaker 3: the hell out. He fell pinned in. He said. He
Speaker 3: was overwhelmed with fear, an unnatural fear. He almost couldn't move.
Speaker 3: He wanted to call out to Gaby to run, because
Speaker 3: she was less than a hundred yards away off to
Speaker 3: his right hand side, just around the rim of this pond.
Speaker 3: Her blind was sent up similarly to his, and she
Speaker 3: didn't know what was going on at the moment. As
Speaker 3: he's freaking out, he's so shaken he can't do anything
Speaker 3: with his camera. He stops what he's doing, and he
Speaker 3: starts backing up the little ways. This thing lets out
Speaker 3: a growl. Whenever he moved, it would growl and growl
Speaker 3: some more. He said he felt like he was being
Speaker 3: challenged and it was really hard to overcome the fear
Speaker 3: he was dealing with. He said he took one of
Speaker 3: his waterproof matches as he was sitting there and tried
Speaker 3: to light the grass on fire. He said it caught
Speaker 3: a little bit, caught a little bit of his blind
Speaker 3: on fire as well, but it was a distraction in
Speaker 3: his mind. As soon as that little fire was going
Speaker 3: a little bit, he just jumps up and imagine trying
Speaker 3: to run across a waterbed. He fell several times, and
Speaker 3: then dawn on him. I'm fleeing and Gabby doesn't know
Speaker 3: what's going on. So he stops about half the distance
Speaker 3: back to and starts screaming for Gabby. Gabby she heard him.
Speaker 3: She turns to look to see what was going on,
Speaker 3: sees this thing inspecting his blind area. She turns seize
Speaker 3: Derek and convinces to be lining it towards him. She
Speaker 3: hadn't even gotten her camera out of the bag. She
Speaker 3: fleets her area and meets up with Derek. They get
Speaker 3: the hell out of Dodge. They make it back to
Speaker 3: the cabin. They're stuck with their own thoughts of what
Speaker 3: the hell because Gabby didn't see it as close as
Speaker 3: Derek did. Derek was shaken up when he fled. He
Speaker 3: left the gun, he left the bear spray, his camera. Basically,
Speaker 3: he just up and left Gabby the same thing. They
Speaker 3: get back to the cabin and they calmed down. The
Speaker 3: other two with them at this particular cabin went on
Speaker 3: the other side of jack Rabbit Hills to film for
Speaker 3: bears going through. They were not back. They did not
Speaker 3: make it back that night. They were very fearful of
Speaker 3: their well being because of what was going on now.
Speaker 3: During that night, they kept hearing this bellowing, roaring kind
Speaker 3: of scream sound coming from that direction, and at this
Speaker 3: point they're a little over half a mile away from
Speaker 3: the area where they were going to be doing their photography,
Speaker 3: so it was very loud, especially to reverberate through the
Speaker 3: trees and for them to hear it from that distance,
Speaker 3: very loud, panic stricken, No gun, nothing there as far
Speaker 3: as their bears. Brand and gun were left at his
Speaker 3: blind Of course, when you get in a panic. For
Speaker 3: a lot of people, it didn't matter if they're holding
Speaker 3: a gun because of the shock of the realization of
Speaker 3: what's going on. It irrelevant. Even the camera in the
Speaker 3: hand probably wuldn't have made a difference. So they're listening
Speaker 3: to this screaming, bellowing sound. Gabby's freaked out. She's concerned
Speaker 3: because they got a lot of money invested in these cameras.
Speaker 3: Like I said, his was down there, thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: for all the bells and whistles and stuff, and the
Speaker 3: same for hers. So they're looking at a huge chunk
Speaker 3: of change that's left out in the wild. His was
Speaker 3: on a small tripod. The back was open. You don't
Speaker 3: want your camera back open in those conditions, moisture and stuff.
Speaker 3: So they're really concerned about their gear. But they're trying
Speaker 3: to convince themselves of what he saw. She saw this
Speaker 3: thing at a distance and couldn't really make out the
Speaker 3: features that Derek had seen, so he was trying to
Speaker 3: fill in on This looked like a big flip, he
Speaker 3: tells her. So she didn't know what to do with that.
Speaker 3: She asked him where to come from, He goes, it
Speaker 3: just showed up it was in the water. It made
Speaker 3: a noise. I thought it was a sea lion. That
Speaker 3: thing was there. G estimation and only speculation. He felt
Speaker 3: it came out of the water. I don't know. He
Speaker 3: didn't see it come to the pond or whatever. It
Speaker 3: just it was there all of a sudden. Next morning
Speaker 3: they were able to sleep a little bit. It was
Speaker 3: broken sleep. They woke up to a thumping sound coming
Speaker 3: up the stairs of the cab. They freak out. They
Speaker 3: scraighted the backside of it. It was the other two
Speaker 3: that went out to film for Bear. They were having
Speaker 3: problems with their cameras. Something had happened. It wasn't functioning right.
Speaker 3: They had another camera. The one guy was trying to
Speaker 3: get a going. They spill all the stuff onto these
Speaker 3: two guys that just came in the door. Hey there
Speaker 3: was a big flit. They didn't take them serious at first.
Speaker 3: They blew them off. They're like, oh, come on, and
Speaker 3: the moose is probably a banner, and he goes, no,
Speaker 3: we left our cameras there. And then they took it
Speaker 3: seriously because they knew the value of those cameras, and
Speaker 3: no one's just gonna leave something that expensive just willy
Speaker 3: nilly for no reason, you know what I mean. Plus
Speaker 3: the fact he had a gun and left that to
Speaker 3: flee the scene right told him about setting the fire,
Speaker 3: and he goes, we didn't see any smoke, so it
Speaker 3: must not a cot. He explained to me. It caught
Speaker 3: right near my blind, caught part of the blind, and
Speaker 3: I was gone. So they have a discussion. The one
Speaker 3: guy who was like still the initial guy they were
Speaker 3: talking to, believed them because of those things, because of
Speaker 3: the expensive cameras and all that, and how freaked out
Speaker 3: they were. The other guy that was with them didn't
Speaker 3: really buy into it. He was like, ah, you guys
Speaker 3: are just over paranoid about some bears. Maybe we should
Speaker 3: be filming over there for the bear since it obviously
Speaker 3: is over there and it just real dismiss above them.
Speaker 3: The guy says, let's go get your stuff. I'll go
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: I have my gun.
Speaker 3: We'll go. We'll retrieve your stuff. You can get the gun,
Speaker 3: you get your cameras. The other guy said, I'm going
Speaker 3: to stay here, get the camera operational way run a
Speaker 3: wild goose chase. Because he was dismissive of the whole thing.
Speaker 3: They go back across they get back up into the
Speaker 3: area they cut out. Derek said, you could easily see
Speaker 3: every path he had made out to this pond. Same
Speaker 3: with where Gabby branched off from his path and went
Speaker 3: and made her blind. So they get to that point
Speaker 3: to the blind. His camera looked like it had been
Speaker 3: toppled over, pushed into the tundra, into the marsh, so
Speaker 3: it was basically flush with the marsh tundra. The back
Speaker 3: was still open. He was devastated by the loss of
Speaker 3: his camera. The blind was pushed down or the fire
Speaker 3: didn't make it very far. He said. The fire patch
Speaker 3: was maybe two flit in a circle. Everything was too
Speaker 3: wet to really burn. The gun was untouched. The other
Speaker 3: bag he had all his film roles in was untouched.
Speaker 3: But the camera was forced down and the blind was
Speaker 3: basically knocked down. They looked around for tracks, but it
Speaker 3: was marsh. They saw a deeper depressis following his little
Speaker 3: trill from where his first blind was, but then they disappeared.
Speaker 3: Get over to Gabby's spot where she was. Her bag
Speaker 3: is gone, no side of it. Her blind wasn't knocked down,
Speaker 3: but her bag was gone. Gabby and Derek were shaking
Speaker 3: like leaves on the tree. They kept looking at the pond,
Speaker 3: looking around, trying to see if they could see this
Speaker 3: thing in the water moving around like he initially did,
Speaker 3: thinking it was a beaver. The videographer that was with
Speaker 3: them had told them, hey, I've heard stories coming out
Speaker 3: here a few different times from some of the locals,
Speaker 3: especially there on a Queenjack River near Naknik and over
Speaker 3: in Iliamna about the harry man. We should just cut
Speaker 3: our losses and get back to the cabin. He gathered
Speaker 3: what he could the gun and his stuff, but her
Speaker 3: stuff was gone. They get back to the cabin, he said,
Speaker 3: the thing that stood out the most was the grumble
Speaker 3: when it growled, because he was on that marsh, he
Speaker 3: felt it. Imagine sitting on a waterbed and the waterbed
Speaker 3: vibrates with a sound you hear along with your clothes.
Speaker 3: He said. It was intense. How the vibration, he said,
Speaker 3: it almost made him feel like it was almost paralyzing him.
Speaker 3: And that was one of the things that really freaked
Speaker 3: him out. He said, during the moment, the gun didn't
Speaker 3: cross his mind any of that other stuff that you
Speaker 3: would think, oh, hey, grab the gun, shoot it. Stuff
Speaker 3: like that. It meant nothing. It was terror. He said,
Speaker 3: it was an unnecessary fear because this thing wasn't necessarily aggressive.
Speaker 3: When they got back to the cabin and the guy
Speaker 3: told him, you know, the other videographer, Hey, this is
Speaker 3: what I saw on this and the guy was still dismissive.
Speaker 3: There's going to be people like that all over It's irrelevant.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna thank Derek for sharing that again. That happened
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty seven up the Malchattna River near where
Speaker 3: the Cocktuley River meets. A rough estimation on his part.
Speaker 3: We're going back to nineteen eighty seven. Thank you guys
Speaker 3: for joining me today in beautiful Alaska. I'll catch you
Speaker 3: on the next one. They say, you don't gotta go home,
Speaker 3: but you can't stay.
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