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I don't want to be a complete 35 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.039 broken record and just keep talking about the same thing 36 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.080 over and over again. However, I will do a little 37 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:33.960 bit of that here at the top of the show 38 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:39.599 because I can't help myself and just kind of bounce 39 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.199 back to the same topic I've been covering the past 40 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.360 couple of weeks because I feel it's important and we'll 41 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.319 move on from here. I promise. I got other things 42 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:56.919 to talk about here in a minute. But the reality 43 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:04.639 of the Russian propaganda influence over alternative media specifically is 44 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.199 I can't I don't know if I want to call 45 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:16.759 it a divisive issue, but it's a difficult issue for sure, 46 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:19.479 and it seems like a lot of people. I've gotten 47 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:24.560 a little pushback from people, which is good. I never 48 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:30.879 expect anybody just to take anything I say for my word. However, 49 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:34.840 I have to keep reiterating my point of view in 50 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:39.479 that I just can't stress enough how important this is 51 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:45.520 to me because and the reason that this issue resonates 52 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:48.680 so much and that I can't stop myself from continuing 53 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:54.639 to talk about it is because of the effect that 54 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:59.520 it has in this sphere of influence that I have 55 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.719 been a part of, that being alternative media, independent media, 56 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:12.960 fringe sort of conspiracy oriented media, the remnants now of 57 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:18.720 the truth movement that occurred in the mid two thousands. 58 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.639 It's when I got into this. What was going on 59 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:24.160 then to what was going on now completely different check 60 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:27.639 and I talked about that last week. It is not 61 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:32.360 the same thing anymore. And I am going to keep 62 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:35.480 using this. I know in the past I've always struggled. 63 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.639 Listeners will know what I'm talking about, because it happens 64 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:41.920 to me all the time. It's like, I don't know 65 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:43.279 what to call this. I don't know what I'm a 66 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:47.160 part of, Like truth movement, is that right? I've never 67 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:51.959 been able to even describe what I'm doing exactly or 68 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.399 what maybe I'm even a part of, or what I 69 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:56.480 used to be a part of. I don't feel i'm 70 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.360 a part of it at all anymore. But I think 71 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.720 the label that I'm going to go with, I finally 72 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:07.399 have a label for this thing. It's the post truth 73 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:13.959 world and maybe the post truth movement world, because it's dead. 74 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:18.000 It's over. Whatever it was, it's not there anymore. It's gone, 75 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:22.079 it has become it has been usurped by not just 76 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:34.399 one group. It's cooperating factions who have overlapping interests, which 77 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:36.839 is the way a lot of geopolitics works as well. 78 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:42.759 But in this global online propaganda matrix that we're all 79 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:47.639 swimming in now, we're all doing that, like it or not. 80 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:54.199 There are a multitude of actors trying to sway your 81 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:58.079 opinion all at the same time. I keep saying this, 82 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.920 and I'm going to keep saying this. Yes, there's not 83 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:06.439 just one propaganda channel that we need to be wary of. 84 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:09.879 We're not looking just for what the United States government 85 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:13.360 is propagandizing us with. We're not looking just at what 86 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:18.800 the Russian government is propaganda propagandizing us. We're not looking 87 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:24.319 at simply how the Chinese government is propagandizing us. All 88 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:28.560 these governments are doing that in this global propaganda matrix. 89 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.800 The evidence is there for everybody to see it. They're 90 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:37.639 all doing it to us if we don't notice it. 91 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.439 That's why we need to get really good at noticing 92 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:44.600 all of these things when they pop up, and it's 93 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.480 difficult to know the source all the time. Sometimes it's 94 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:50.079 quite obvious when I get something on my Twitter feed 95 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:53.720 claiming that tenem n square never happened. Not so hard 96 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:57.079 to pick that apart. It doesn't take a lot of 97 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.360 In fact, it's so easy to pick apart. It's like, 98 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.000 did anybody put any effort into this? On the other 99 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:11.360 side that do they think we're all this stupid? I mean, 100 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:18.879 it's it's almost I mean, I'm offended personally by this. 101 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:24.759 It's like you think I'm this stupid. But that being said, 102 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:27.360 not all of it is that easy. That the to 103 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:34.000 notice we've all we've all fallen for propaganda, all of us. 104 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:38.279 I have you have, Whoever you're yelling at on social 105 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.480 media that you don't like, has you also have? Probably 106 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:45.480 both of your arguments are somewhat influenced by somebody's propaganda, 107 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:55.959 maybe many people's propaganda. So the global propaganda war very 108 00:07:56.040 --> 00:08:03.199 much existing online. If we're online people, there's no way 109 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.759 out of being influenced by this. There's no way out 110 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:12.279 of having to deal with this. The only way out 111 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.920 would be the difficult choice just to turn this whole 112 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:20.759 damn thing off and never look at it again. Sometimes 113 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:25.480 I sincerely believe I should do that, but I haven't, 114 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:33.200 probably for no good reason. There's probably I mean, we 115 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.480 could go on and on about all of our reasons 116 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:42.720 that we stay here in this mess, but certainly we're 117 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:47.360 all telling ourselves, yes, it's worth the trouble to be here, 118 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:53.200 and that probably is actually true, at least somewhat enough 119 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:59.679 that we can justify being online. I know I do it. 120 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:03.320 I don't know if you have to actually have a 121 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.120 conversation with yourself in your own head like I do, 122 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:13.720 to justify being online. But I hope you do. I 123 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:20.519 hope you think twice about things, And I mean, we're 124 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.559 all caught up in this. We're all caught up in this. 125 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.399 There's seemingly no way out. And even if you did 126 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:29.360 turn it off and walk away, they would still have 127 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.799 all your information. They'd still be surveilling you. Facebook could 128 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.960 still be trying to get you to join. They would 129 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.200 know where you are, they would know what you're doing, 130 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.919 they would probably know what you're thinking and when you're thinking. It. 131 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:47.279 All these stupid systems have been set up to not 132 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:53.759 just manipulate us, but to understand us. That's a whole 133 00:09:53.799 --> 00:10:02.639 other issue, but it's one that should inform us as 134 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:10.639 to how this propaganda is produced. Now. It's produced using 135 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:18.480 advanced analytics, gathered via online surveillance tools, you know, all 136 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:23.559 the stuff we use every day. So to think that 137 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:30.000 it's not advanced to a disturbing stage at this point 138 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:34.720 it would be foolish. So we do have to keep 139 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:38.919 that in mind. But back to the point that I 140 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:40.799 think I was trying to make at the beginning of 141 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:45.440 the episode, of the Russian influence over the post truth 142 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:53.240 movement sphere of the alternative media. Can we even use 143 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:57.679 the term independent media anymore? I mean, that's that's stupid. Clearly, 144 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:03.399 that's not that because the parties in question that have 145 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:05.519 popped up in the news so far, they're not the 146 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.440 only ones, absolutely not the only ones, but the most 147 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:15.480 famous ones. The tenant media story, Timpoole, Lauren Southern, and 148 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:17.600 those other guys that I don't know who they are. 149 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:21.480 Thank god once of them are up in Canada. Isn't 150 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:25.919 that interesting? That's another pet peeve. I'm gonna go off 151 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:29.679 on a tangent because I can't help myself. It's I 152 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:33.799 find it incredibly annoying when people from another country are 153 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.240 making all this media telling us how great one of 154 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:44.159 our US presidential candidates is. That is beyond annoying. I 155 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:49.000 don't I don't want to hear. If you want to, 156 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:51.559 like passingly say oh yeah, this person, that person, I 157 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:54.120 get why, you know, maybe they're good, maybe they're not, 158 00:11:54.840 --> 00:12:02.000 say it quickly, whatever, but don't give any involved explanation 159 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:05.120 as to why a vote for this or that person, this, 160 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:08.360 this or that candidate is good. Don't tell me that. 161 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:15.360 If you love Donald Trump so much, just shut your 162 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.200 damn mouth, and why don't you go vote for whoever 163 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:23.799 the alternative for Germany candidate or whatever. Nazi is running 164 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:27.279 in your country. Why don't you go vote for them? Okay, 165 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:29.519 I'm not going to tell you not to. I'm not 166 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:34.960 gonna tell you what I think of them. I'll briefly 167 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:38.080 say I wouldn't vote for him right now. But if 168 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:41.559 you want to go ahead, it's your country. You do 169 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:45.639 what you want to do. You're terrified of the hordes 170 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.320 coming in across your border, okay, vote for the person 171 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.200 who claims they're going to stop that. I don't care. 172 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:59.519 Vote for the UFC fighter that's running for parliament or 173 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:04.480 wherever that hell it is. Doesn't bother me. But please 174 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:07.879 don't tell me that Donald Trump is good. Please don't 175 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.480 tell me that Kamala Harris is good. Don't tell me 176 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.440 that either one of them is bad or good. I 177 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.759 don't care. I don't want to hear it. So that's 178 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:24.279 these Canadian kooks. Why don't you go back over the border, 179 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.519 all right? Why don't you keep your stupid media up there? 180 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.320 I went mind a firewall so that we can't see you. 181 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:37.240 How about that for securing our digital media borders? How 182 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:40.639 about that for an initiative. I'm mad about the border too. 183 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:44.519 You see see how this, see how It's all about 184 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:47.519 a matter of perspective and how you're coming at things. 185 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.159 See how this could be made into an issue. But 186 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.840 nobody cares about it. People care about all the fake 187 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.799 crap that you talk about that you've convinced him is real. 188 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.000 And that's what most of the stuff is that makes 189 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:08.519 the big headlines. It is floods the social media feeds, 190 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:14.240 becomes the trending topics, gets everybody all fired up, gets 191 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:17.759 everybody arguing with each other. It's all stuff that's just 192 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:24.679 made up, loosely, loosely based on reality. There's there's like 193 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:30.240 an iota of reality. And they're like, are there Haitians 194 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:35.120 living in Springfield, Ohio? Did they immigrate to Springfield, Ohio? Yes, 195 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:42.120 that's true, that's a real thing that happened. Anything beyond that, 196 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:51.360 it's probably made up. And I mean, the one thing 197 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:53.519 that never gets talked about is why are they in Ohio? 198 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.960 Or why do they leave Haiti? Say, may ever talk 199 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:59.360 about that? Anybody talk about what's going on down there? 200 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:01.720 Anybody want to go down there and take a little 201 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.960 vacation real quick and have some fun down in that country? 202 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.759 Anybody even care or know what's going on? No Wady cares. 203 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:21.759 Nobody knows. People all worried about it don't know. And 204 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.960 why is this so upsetting? Because yes, we are being 205 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:32.240 this is being used as a propaganda tool against US, 206 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:35.960 the United States population. It's being used as a weapon. 207 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.320 And yes, not only by Russia, but yes, absolutely they 208 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:46.240 are putting all this stuff on plasts, not only the 209 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:51.240 Republican Party, but yes, absolutely they are putting this out there. 210 00:15:55.240 --> 00:16:06.720 There are shared interests, and there are business folks that 211 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:11.159 are linked up with the same interests, and interests come 212 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:19.480 and they go, and different rivalries come up, and there's 213 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.960 infighting and all this fun stuff. But I mean, can 214 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:25.799 we just avoid caring about any of that by just 215 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:30.759 not paying attention to their garbage to begin with? And yes, 216 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:37.159 once again, the Russian influence over alternative media is massive. 217 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:39.799 That's why it is important, and that's why it will 218 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:43.799 not stop talking about it. There's a lot of paranoid 219 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:49.200 people that are involved in this media scene. They seem 220 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:51.759 like they're paranoid to me. They're acting like they're paranoid, 221 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.559 and they're worried that the FEDS are gonna come after them. Now, 222 00:16:55.120 --> 00:17:00.240 guess what, I'm not worried, and I feel great about 223 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:04.519 this whole thing. See, isn't this fun? Isn't this this 224 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:11.279 is the Frankly, I want people to be paranoid. I 225 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:15.119 want people if they know that they're caught up in this, 226 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:17.440 because some people know that they're caught up in this, 227 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:26.440 and they're deserve to be repercussions for either for knowingly. 228 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.200 If you knowingly crafted Russian propaganda, there should be consequences 229 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:34.319 for that. If you unknowingly did it, that's a problem 230 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.519 in and of itself. So this brings up the question 231 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.920 of like Tim Poole, he got up there, him and 232 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:41.640 all the rest of them, they have the same defense. 233 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.519 They're like, we we maintained editorial control over all of 234 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:50.000 our content. Never did anybody tell us what we could say. 235 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.920 So that's clearly they're all in line with that defense. 236 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.079 I don't know what deals they have worked out with 237 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:58.920 the FEDS where they're like giving them the information that 238 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:00.920 they need. I don't know what's going on with that. 239 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:05.720 I'm not following that completely. I followed it a bit. 240 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:16.119 But so anyway, they made maintained editorial control, so that 241 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:20.759 means that they didn't think twice about making one hundred 242 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:24.279 thousand dollars a week. That's just to put out a 243 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:29.119 podcast one hundred thousand dollars. Tempole never thought like, oh yeah, 244 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:34.319 one hundred thousand dollars, Like, oh, of course. There's just 245 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:37.200 so many issues that pop up with that, Like, for one, 246 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.640 what kind of ego maniac thinks that making a dumb 247 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:45.920 show like his is worth one hundred thousand dollars first 248 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:49.200 of all. Second of all, he's trying to play it 249 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:50.880 off like that's not a large sum of money. It's 250 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:52.599 like it just doesn't matter to me. It doesn't change 251 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.839 my life one hundred thousand dollars for one stupid podcast episode. 252 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.960 That's a that ought be a slap in the face 253 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:06.039 of the audience. Who's the audience? Is the audience millionaires 254 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:08.079 and billionaires? Is that the only people listening to this? 255 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:14.000 Because if not, I take offense this and I don't 256 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.839 even listen to his garbage. I find that offensive. I'm 257 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:19.839 taking offense to a lot of things tonight because a 258 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:24.759 lot of this stupid crap should offend more people. I'm offended. 259 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.079 I don't know about you. It's one hundred thousand dollars. 260 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:39.279 Who cares? Okay, So so okay, Let's say his defense 261 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:43.799 is completely legit. He was unaware where this money was 262 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:45.720 coming from. He didn't even think about it. He didn't 263 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:52.440 give it second thought. What is the uh what can 264 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:58.920 we assume from that? If that's true? Well, if that 265 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:04.000 is true, then Temple is a total dim win. He 266 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.599 couldn't figure out where the money's coming He didn't even look. 267 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:12.839 He didn't think. And Chuck has told his story. I 268 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:14.759 asked Chuck, how long did it take you to figure 269 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:17.279 out what was going on in your situation? Took Chuck 270 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:22.599 like a day or two to figure out. Tempole never 271 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:28.599 figured it out because he's an absolute moron. That's if 272 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:31.000 his defense is completely legit, and I'm giving him the 273 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:35.240 benefit of doubt. I believe you, Timpole. I believe that 274 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:39.119 you're probably the stupidest person in the world, because that's 275 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.799 what you're telling me. That makes sense. 276 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:44.319 That tracks. 277 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:52.720 So, yes, Oh, I received word from Creative Accidents. He 278 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:55.480 sent me a little message saying that a certain media 279 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:59.839 company shut down earlier this week, which will remain nameless 280 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:03.000 for now, but which listeners to the Ocelli Radio network 281 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.240 might be familiar with. They just happened to shut down 282 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.640 all the people on it, and they're not hosts anymore, 283 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:12.519 and it it's just gone. I have no idea why 284 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:14.880 it shut down. I don't know. There's probably no reason. 285 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.480 They probably just had to shutter shutter the thing just 286 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.920 just because hear about this check. 287 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:25.599 Yeah, they very suddenly claimed that their their financial backers 288 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:27.680 pulled out on them rather suddenly. 289 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:29.640 Uh. 290 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.319 And apparently they said they had one, you know, based 291 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:35.160 in Australia where they were based, and they also had 292 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:38.759 one in Germany, and they both simultaneously said they don't 293 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:42.440 want to put any more money in and uh, you know, 294 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:45.559 the amount of money that this organization was able to 295 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.880 spend over the past few years is kind of amazing, 296 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.680 and who they were recruiting and who they were deciding 297 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:55.680 not to recruit. I also found it funny that the 298 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:59.200 head guy there said that we tried to offer people 299 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:04.440 free speech, and apparently nobody wants free speech, which I 300 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.559 found really funny, being that I was fired for not 301 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.079 going along with the company line from that particular media network, 302 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:17.680 which will still remain nameless here. Yeah, it's interesting these 303 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:19.160 games that get played behind this. 304 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.839 Well, I guess. I guess they don't work like Tenant 305 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:25.759 Media that gave them completely editorial control. Over their shows. 306 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:29.119 They just operate a little differently over their tenant. I 307 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:32.960 guess I don't know. I don't know. That's if we 308 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.720 believe that story, But I don't know. It's hard to 309 00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:37.079 know exactly what to believe. 310 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.160 But but you know, if you dig around, you check 311 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:41.680 with a couple of people who have been with some 312 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.440 of these other larger media organizations, you find out that 313 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:51.319 if they don't completely comply with the company line, they 314 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:56.079 are often somehow ostracized and let go. And sometimes it 315 00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:58.640 might be, oh, you know, something like an Info Wars 316 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:02.599 type you know situation, or it could be Genesis Radio, 317 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:07.160 or it could be you know, various organizations that if 318 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:10.240 you don't comply with the company line, if you don't 319 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:11.279 go right along. 320 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:13.160 With it, you got to go. 321 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:16.400 Even though they're supposed to be all about free speech 322 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:18.759 and the kind of speech that you won't get anywhere 323 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:22.000 else because everywhere else is controlled, we're not. 324 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:24.920 I always find that interesting. 325 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:28.720 And yes, as supposedly as of today that radio network 326 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:33.279 is shuttering it's operations, which it happened to. 327 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.839 It's a total coincidence, shuck, total coincidence, Yeah, total coincidence, 328 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.279 with nothing to it. They just these things happen. Companies come, 329 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.880 they go huge, huge sums of money for funding these things. 330 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.839 They come, they go, you know, a big deal, you know, 331 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:51.759 when you're able to hire. 332 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:55.200 And according to their own statistics, they had like seventy 333 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:59.680 five people that they were employing and they were paying decent. 334 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:01.559 So out I got to be honest about it. They 335 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:06.000 were paying decently and they had seventy five employees that 336 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:10.079 they were able to support for years. I guess that 337 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.359 funding was there. You know, it was pretty good for 338 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:13.839 a while, right. 339 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:14.720 Up until this week. 340 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:15.400 I guess. 341 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:22.559 For some reason, you know, just what can I say? 342 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.559 I just I wanted to throw that in though, because 343 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:27.640 it just seemed like the right time to do it. 344 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:30.200 But yeah, yeah, no, thank you, Chuck. It's helpful. And 345 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.960 I'll ask you quickly here. Did you see the UH 346 00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:39.440 press release ridden by I'm Holding up Air quotes written 347 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:43.559 by RFK Junior and Donald Trump Junior, the two juniors 348 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:48.920 about the escalation with Russia with the long range missiles 349 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.720 and all that that they wrote. Did you see that? 350 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:59.759 This passed me? Yes? I mean, I call me crazy, 351 00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.599 but I don't think they wrote that. It kind of 352 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:07.839 sounds like it has somebody else's hand to it. Yeah, 353 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.519 somebody else's voice seems to carry through that. 354 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:16.440 It does not resemble the previous statements that I've seen 355 00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:21.079 organically come from RFK Junior or from Donald Trump Junior. 356 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:27.799 It does not seem to echo their previous statements in public. 357 00:25:28.279 --> 00:25:32.319 You know, it looks a bit dissimilar. I have no 358 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.920 factual basis to claim anything other than that, except it 359 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.880 does look very dissimilar from previous statements made by those 360 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:39.720 two individuals. 361 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:43.279 Aaron doesn't it. That's what I thought when I looked 362 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.960 at But hey, I don't know either. I don't know anything. 363 00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:50.880 I'm just some idiot on a microphone. I'm not smart. 364 00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.359 I don't take money to do this. You don't pay me, Chuck. 365 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.559 No, And I'm certainly not sitting here saying one hundred 366 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:57.160 thousand dollars is not a lot of money, or I 367 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:59.079 wouldn't question where n Hella was coming from. 368 00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:01.519 Either, because I'll tell you what really quickly. 369 00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:04.480 Quick shout out to Creative Accidents, and also to Chris, 370 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.519 because I did say at the end of my show 371 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.440 that if a donation was made, I would definitely say 372 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:13.039 that you are the executive producer of a live Friday Show. 373 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.599 Guess what Creative Accidents and Chris, you are both the 374 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:17.960 executive producers of this. 375 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.119 Right now the age of transitions. There you go. Cool, Okay, 376 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.960 thank you Chris and Creative Accents. I appreciate that because awesome. 377 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:31.119 We don't live one hundred thousand dollars donations here, just saying. 378 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:36.640 Yeah, absolutely, And that again too, is why I take 379 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:40.440 this personal. It is personal to meet Shai, but it's 380 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:47.759 also I can't help but feel a little self righteous 381 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.319 about myself. Well, if the course feel good, I feel 382 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.880 good about myself, Chuck, I really do. I'm not going 383 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.119 to stop patting myself on the back for the things 384 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:57.359 I feel like I've done right. 385 00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.880 Well, you know, you have never been paid to make 386 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:04.559 false statements or have been paid to just support certain things. 387 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.920 You're not paid regardless of whose editorial control is over 388 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:13.039 your shit. Nobody's paying you for that except listeners that 389 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:13.680 support you. 390 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:14.480 And that's it. 391 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.640 Yes, and they buy your book or they use the 392 00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:18.640 little things that you know, give you a little something 393 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.440 you know, and that's it, and that's all they do here. 394 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:23.920 Same thing. 395 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:25.640 We don't have this. 396 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:27.759 I said that on Twitter this week too. I don't 397 00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.400 have dark money like some people, you know, the dark 398 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.359 money boost that other people have. I don't get that, so, 399 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:38.160 you know, yeah, so it's much appreciated, and it's not 400 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.599 in one hundred thousand dollars amounts even when it does 401 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.079