WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:04.519 Itching closer and closer to Super Bowl fifty nine between 2 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:07.200 the Chiefs and the Eagles, the final football game of 3 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:07.599 the year. 4 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:09.800 Never a bad time to talk football. 5 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:11.919 Friend of the Show joining us now one of the 6 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:13.759 best to ever do it at the Youth Super Bowl champ. 7 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:16.320 Great to have Terrell Burgess back on the program. Terrell, 8 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:17.559 Happy Friday, man, how are we doing? 9 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:20.480 Happy Friday? Thank you? I'm doing well. How are you? 10 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:21.359 I'm well, I'm well. 11 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:24.920 I appreciate the time, appreciate the time today. So let's uh, obviously, 12 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:26.920 you know, we'll get to some ute stuff and we'll 13 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:29.480 do some you know, the latest with you. But I 14 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:31.440 wanted to ask you, just from your vantage point to 15 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:34.840 somebody who's done this on the highest of levels, what 16 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.439 stands out most about the way the Kansas City Chiefs 17 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:39.799 and Patrick Mahomes specifically has been able to kind of 18 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:43.560 change our approach throughout the years to simply figure out 19 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:46.159 a way to win, no matter, you know, no matter 20 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:48.159 what the style is. Because back in the day, as 21 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:52.280 you know, it just was high powered, big plays, Tyreek Kill, 22 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:55.159 Travis Travis Kelsey, and now he just he's kind of 23 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:57.280 grown into this cerebral thinker. 24 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:01.520 From your vantage point. What impresses you the I. 25 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:04.439 Think just their ability to find ways to win, just 26 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:09.120 like you said, I think, And I'm not no football guru. 27 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.239 I'm just you know, a young kid that's been playing 28 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:13.239 football most of his life. But I would just say, 29 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:15.560 like from my point of view, from the teams that 30 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.159 have not been able to beat them in the playoffs 31 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.680 or like been able to stop them from getting to 32 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:23.840 the big game, I think it's just everyone tries to 33 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:30.879 like beat them at like their game, and like trying, 34 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.040 in my opinion, like trying to beat them at their 35 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:34.840 game is not going to work because they've been there. 36 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:37.519 They've been in that situation many times before. Whether they 37 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:41.120 have new receivers or not, like new skill players or not, 38 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.640 they're still finding ways to win. And I mean they're 39 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:45.840 playing well on defense as well, so that's gonna help. 40 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:48.799 And I think when your defense is playing well and 41 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.359 you know, like you guys could have a one or 42 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.239 two off drives and your quarterback has the ability to 43 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:57.040 go down and score every drive, it's just good all 44 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.400 around and it just helps the team play better at 45 00:01:59.439 --> 00:01:59.920 all times. 46 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:04.959 So the AFC Championship Game, Buffalo gets the ball with 47 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.239 about three and a half left in three timeouts? 48 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:09.520 Did you think they were going to get it done? 49 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:11.120 Did you think it was finally going to be Josh 50 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:12.759 a chance to break through or did you feel like 51 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:14.240 that was the Chiefs game kind. 52 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:14.520 Of all along? 53 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:17.800 I thought joshin the boys were going to do it. 54 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:19.879 To be honest to you, when I saw the clock 55 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:23.800 when the Chiefs had hit their field goal, I said, oh, 56 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:26.599 that's too much time. There's no way the Bills don't 57 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:28.800 score here. But because I felt like they were driving 58 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:31.759 all game, I felt like they had a better command 59 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:35.120 on that game than the Chiefs did it from my 60 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:37.560 point of view. But I guess you know I was wrong, 61 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:40.520 and the Chiefs maybe to the Super Bowl. But yeah, no, 62 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.400 I definitely thought Josh and them, we're going to score 63 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:44.560 and win the game. 64 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.759 So the easy thing for lazy media people to say 65 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:51.400 is because Josh Allen hasn't broken through, and because Patrick 66 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:54.199 Mahomes is only twenty nine, it's going to be tough 67 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:55.879 for Josh to ever get it done. And luck we've 68 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:58.479 seen it trelle in pro football, Peyton Manning, I think 69 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.680 it was oh to six versus Tom Brady to start 70 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:02.560 his career, and he eventually broke through and. 71 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:04.280 Got a couple you think. 72 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.639 See, I just feel like Josh is too good to 73 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:07.879 never actually get it done. 74 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:09.639 And you never know what's gonna happen with the Chiefs 75 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:10.439 or any other team. 76 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.360 But what are you willing to say about Josh's chances 77 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.280 to at some point maybe break through and get a 78 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.199 Super Bowl or maybe multiple. 79 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:20.000 Oh yeah, No, I definitely think he's got the ability. 80 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:21.800 I think if you see the way he's played this 81 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:24.599 year and over the last few years, just as a whole, 82 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:27.680 he's got the capability of breaking through. I think they 83 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.520 just I think they have the pieces. They just got 84 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.759 to get over that hump, whatever that hump is. I'm 85 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:35.439 not the person to make that decision, but I think 86 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.280 I think he'll break through. And it obviously won't be 87 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:40.159 this year. It could not be next year, but I'm 88 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.360 sure by the end of his career. And I'm not 89 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.080 saying like ten years down the road when he's finishing 90 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:46.639 it's gonna be his last year. It could happen the 91 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:49.039 next couple but I definitely think he'll break through. I 92 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.199 don't know what it'll take, but as long as he 93 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:54.439 keeps playing well the way he's playing, and they keep 94 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:56.479 the right guys around them, I'm sure they'll break through. 95 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:59.400 I'm also contractually obligated to ask you about Lamar Jackson 96 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:02.039 if we're gonna do lazy media narratives Torell, because of 97 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:05.520 course it's the same thing with him, right like, potentially 98 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.120 could win another MVP, which would be three, and then 99 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.400 playoff time rolls around it, and look, there's no shame 100 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.360 in going up the Buffalo and nearly beating an awesome team. 101 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:17.199 But got the same question about Lamar as somebody who's 102 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:18.920 played against him and is familiar with him, do you 103 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:20.839 think he ever breaks through and gets his. 104 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:26.959 I do think that he does. I think for some reason, 105 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:28.680 I don't know what it is about the Ravens. They've 106 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:31.000 they've usually had had a good defense, and now I'm 107 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.360 not gonna necessarily say it's their offense their defense at 108 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:35.639 not making it. But I definitely think, just like Josh, 109 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:38.120 I think he's definitely gonna break through. The Ravens will breakthrough. 110 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.040 It just is I don't know what it's gonna take 111 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:43.800 right now. Obviously, Like I'm sure there will be guys 112 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.160 that retire from the Chiefs in the next couple of years, 113 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:48.920 So that maybe that could help. I don't think that 114 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:52.759 the Chiefs are like unbeatable. I just think that I 115 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:54.399 guess no one has found a way to beat them 116 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:58.560 in the playoffs in the last seven years besides Tom Brady, 117 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.560 So I don't know. It's a tough one. 118 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:01.720 All right. 119 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.920 Let me ask you about your impressions, because you know, 120 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:08.439 Jadeen Daniels was out here in the PAC twelve foot print, 121 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.079 which is dead unfortunately there's no such thing now, but 122 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.199 you know I'll use at Arizona State before transferring LSU, 123 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.240 winning the Heisman and then bursting on the scenes. Were 124 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:20.360 you surprised to see how poised and mature he was 125 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:22.759 all year? What'd you make if you're one in Washington? 126 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.079 With Jayden Daniels, I remember. 127 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.519 When we were recruiting him to come to Utah, and 128 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:30.720 I knew that he wanted to play right away, but 129 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.959 we obviously had Tyler still there and we had a 130 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.120 couple of quarterbacks in the room, so I knew it 131 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:38.160 would be tough for him to play early at Utah. 132 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:39.639 But I remember when he was being recruited and I 133 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:41.800 was like, oh, this kid's pretty good. But we played 134 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:43.759 him with he was at Arizona State. He was young, 135 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.399 but needless to say, I wouldn't say I was surprised. 136 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.759 I would say that a lot of people with his 137 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:52.399 last two years at LSU, I think a lot of 138 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:53.879 people thought that he was going to come into the 139 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:56.879 league and probably just run all the time, like just 140 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:58.720 be a running quarterback and not throw very well. But 141 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.600 I think a lot of people were surprised by his 142 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:05.240 ability to throw the ball. He just he played really 143 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:08.240 well all around, and I'm I'm I'm looking forward to 144 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.079 see how he does in the future, because I think 145 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.759 he's had a great start to his career and it's 146 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:14.680 only up from here. 147 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.000 So I thought Philly would beat them, but I thought 148 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.959 it would be close, and it was not close. Philly 149 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:24.160 overwhelmed them and they and look, it was a great 150 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:29.360 accomplishment for Washington and Jaden Daniels. The Washington organization has 151 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:31.920 not been to a conference championship game in thirty three years, 152 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.040 so if he was able and they were able to 153 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.079 get that done, they would have been way ahead of schedule. 154 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.879 So I'm not surprised to see Philly in this spot. 155 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:41.199 But what stands out most to you about an Eagles 156 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.160 team Terrell did a lot of people believe is the 157 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:44.959 most talented team in all of pro football. 158 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.439 I would have to say, well, we could just go 159 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.839 based off the NFC Championship game. And this is something 160 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.279 that you know, a good friend of mine, Scott, used 161 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.120 to always talk about and one of my high school 162 00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:00.399 coaches just always say this, But like, the line of 163 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.399 scrimmage is a very important thing in football, and I 164 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:06.959 think the Eagles just found a way to win the 165 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:09.439 line of scrimmage. They they ran the ball very well. 166 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:11.759 I think they had what six rushing touchdowns in that 167 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.399 game or something like that. And if you can't stop 168 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.000 the run in football, I think it's it's going to 169 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:18.959 be a long day. So I'll start there. Their their 170 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.439 running beings has been very good from all their running backs, 171 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:26.279 especially obviously Saquan Jalen Hurts is running really well, and 172 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.600 they can they can throw the balls as well. So 173 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:32.000 I think all around there playing well. Their their defense 174 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:34.920 is playing well, and I think they've got a good 175 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:36.639 shot to beat the Chiefs. It will probably be tough, 176 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:38.680 but I mean that's that's what football is for. You 177 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:40.720 don't want anything to be a cakewalk, all. 178 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:44.040 Right, Terrell Bird just the safety Okay, you're you're. 179 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.480 Standing there and a running back is broken free from 180 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.240 the line and you have to tackle either Barkley or 181 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:50.920 Derrick Henry. 182 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.040 Who are you choosing? Who's who's tougher to deal with? 183 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.079 I don't really. I wouldn't say that I fear either 184 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:00.839 of them, but I mean I don't. I mean, they're 185 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:04.079 both really good running backs. I'd probably take I would 186 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:05.439 take either of them, whichever one. 187 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:06.040 There you go. 188 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:10.319 I mean, like, if I'm being honest. One thing, this 189 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:12.720 is another thing Sky used to always say was limit 190 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:14.439 the damage. So I would. They haven't made a man 191 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.399 to run with that leg, So That's where I'm shooting, 192 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.199 and I would just do my best to not get 193 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:20.199 hurtled at the same time. 194 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:21.079 I like that, all right. 195 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.839 Chiefs Eagles super Bowl fifty nine, Kansas City is a 196 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:25.519 one point five point favorite. 197 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.759 The line hasn't moved. I thought there would be money 198 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:29.439 one way or the other. 199 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:32.240 But it opened up at one point five, and that 200 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:34.879 was five days ago and it stayed at one point five. 201 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.399 Here's how I'll pose the question. I'll start here. The 202 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.159 Eagles win super Bowl fifty nine, if what. 203 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:47.720 The Eagles win super Bowl fifty nine, if they can. 204 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:53.360 If they can run the ball the way they've been running, 205 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:57.240 the Eagles win Super Bowl for fifty nine, and not 206 00:08:57.320 --> 00:08:59.159 saying that they can't pass the ball win. They definitely 207 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:01.440 can pass the ball win if they run the ball 208 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:04.720 and they find a way to get let's say one 209 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:09.360 hundred and fifty to two hundred yards rushing. I don't know, collectively, 210 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:12.120 not just by one person. I think I think it'd 211 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.360 be pretty tough for the Chiefs to win the game 212 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:15.720 in my opinion. 213 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.240 And the Chiefs win Super Bowl fifty nine and we 214 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:19.320 see a three pat. 215 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:23.720 If what the Chiefs win Super Bowl fifty nine if 216 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:27.440 they can, like on contrary to what I just said, 217 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:32.600 contain the Eagles in their rushing game and play the 218 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:33.559 way they've been playing in. 219 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:35.480 The Super Bowl in the fourth quarter of the last 220 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:40.279 few years. I think their ability to play well late 221 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:42.200 in their games in the last couple of years and 222 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:44.720 the last three Super Bowls they won in the last 223 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.279 five years, their ability to play late in the game 224 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:51.399 and play well has really helped them hoist that trophy 225 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:53.159 three times. So I think if they can do that 226 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:56.120 again towards the end of the game, you know, the 227 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.879 second half of the game. I think that'll make sure 228 00:09:58.879 --> 00:09:59.679 that they win the game. 229 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.720 What are you doing these days, Sorell Let's I'm sure 230 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:04.320 you fans would love to hear an update. I know 231 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:07.159 you were with the Bills and you were placed on 232 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.080 injured reserve, So what's what's what's life like for you 233 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:10.559 right now? 234 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:12.399 And what are you hoping comes next? 235 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.519 Yeah, I'm still in California's still training, I'm healthy, had 236 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:19.759 a few workouts this season, but there's nothing nothing, nothing 237 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:23.440 stuck through, still playing, you know. So I've had a 238 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:25.440 little bit of communication with a couple of teams, but 239 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.879 you know, until until things are set and stone, nothing 240 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.240 really happened. So just training. I'm in California right now, 241 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:34.679 looking to find a place to live outside of California 242 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.279 because I love this place. It'll always be home, but 243 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.720 just just looking to to find something new. Probably we'll 244 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:44.960 make a trip or two out to Utah this this offseason, 245 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.360 so that'll be pretty nice to to come back and 246 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:49.519 see my see my favorite people, see one of my 247 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:52.000 favorite cities in the United States, So that'll be nice. 248 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:54.399 Who do you keep in contact out this way? You know, 249 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.320 without this way, we have a lot of your former 250 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:58.759 teammates on Zach was on not too long ago. Who 251 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.360 are your you team? So you continue to talk to 252 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:02.759 and stay in contact. 253 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:06.159 With honestly a lot of them. I keep it. I 254 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.720 still talk to Zach. I talked to Julian for two 255 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.320 I guess two big names. I talked to Soup here 256 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:15.559 and there a lot of T. J. Green, Philipia, There's 257 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:17.879 there's a lot Sampson, Nakula. There's a lot of guys 258 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:21.120 that I still talked to from from Utah, COLC Mariner, 259 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:24.519 I don't know's there's a lot. I'd say that I 260 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:26.679 stay in contact with a lot of guys just because 261 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:28.600 we we had a close knit bond at Utah and 262 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.679 it'll probably continue for the rest of our list. 263 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:32.480 What are your what are your thoughts on? 264 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:34.360 Since you and I last spoke, there was a lot 265 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:37.279 of conversation about what would happen with coach with after 266 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.519 a rough year, and he's announced that he's coming back 267 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:41.840 for year twenty one. What's your reaction to your form 268 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:44.480 of ball coach on the sidelines for another year for 269 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:45.320 these Utah years. 270 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:50.000 I'm happy for him. I didn't think, if I'm being honest, 271 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.279 before last season, I thought that would probably be his 272 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.440 last season, not that I knew anything under the table 273 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.720 or anything. I just I just was thinking like that'd 274 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:02.279 be his last season. But once we fell short to BYU, 275 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:06.000 I think I don't think in my opinion, from my 276 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:08.080 point of view, I don't think he would have allowed 277 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:12.000 himself to leave with that bad taste in his mouth. 278 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:13.919 So I think he's gonna come back with a vengeance 279 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.360 this year and do pretty well, and in my opinion, 280 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.919 maybe this will be his last year. But who knows. 281 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:21.840 He's a strong man. If you see, he probably is 282 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:24.279 still working out like crazy now, so I'm sure he's 283 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:27.000 still in good health and still able to keep going. 284 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:29.480 Since you and I last spoke as well, it's been 285 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.080 a minute. A coach you know very very well. In 286 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.639 morgan Scalley, it was announced that he is the contingency 287 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.799 plan once Kyle decides that he wants to do something 288 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:41.600 else with his time, that job is Morgan's. I would 289 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:43.840 imagine you have some thoughts on that, tro What do 290 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:45.440 you think about the plan here in Salt Lake. 291 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:48.399 I'm happy for him. I have a lot of respects 292 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:50.879 for him. He's not only a great coach, but a 293 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.159 great person as well, and I feel like I learned. 294 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:57.000 I learned a lot from college. I think I don't know. 295 00:12:57.039 --> 00:12:59.519 I couldn't say enough good good things about him, and 296 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.159 I'm excited for his future and his family and when 297 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.919 he gets a chance to take take the reins as 298 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:07.919 the head coach at Utah, I'm sure I'll be there 299 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:10.559 just like I am there now, you know, still supporting 300 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:12.639 them and seeing them do well. 301 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.240 Have you ever thought about media. You're pretty good at this, 302 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:18.320 you know, and I and Terrelle I interview. 303 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:20.639 I know, I know you're only twenty six and hopefully 304 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.519 you have a lot of football left to play. But 305 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.960 I interview a lot of former players, and I'll say 306 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.279 I've interviewed a lot of your former teammates, and I'll 307 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.519 just say gently at times it's hard for me to 308 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.559 drag answers out of them, but you're. 309 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.480 Really good at this. Have you ever considered that maybe 310 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:34.840 down the. 311 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:38.120 Road, I've considered it. I think it's I think it's 312 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.279 very I have a lot of respects for everybody in 313 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:43.759 the media from I think my right after my rookie year, 314 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.679 I did the spring game and I worked with some 315 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:48.840 of the guys from the PAC twelve and calling the 316 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:51.000 spring spring game, so being able to see it from 317 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:54.360 that view and talking to you and just being on 318 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:56.360 the radio and things. It's like, I don't know. I 319 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.200 think I just have a lot of respects for the profession. 320 00:13:58.240 --> 00:13:59.879 I think it's really cool. It's not something I would 321 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:02.240 ever count out. I think it's pretty cool. I just 322 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:05.000 haven't thought about it extensively. But I mean, I guess 323 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.600 if another person tells me that it I sound pretty 324 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:09.159 good on the media, I guess I should probably really 325 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:09.759 think about it. 326 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:11.759 Yeah, you're no, you are. And believe me, I can 327 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:14.080 tell when players are good at it. I can tell 328 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:15.759 when they want to do it, and I can tell 329 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.440 when they're on the phone and they're scrolling through their 330 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:19.960 mentions or they're swiping. 331 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:20.279 Right or whatever. 332 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.960 So you're present and I appreciate that. I want to 333 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.320 move over here because, as I reference, we talk to 334 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:29.559 a lot of your teammates, and for my money, Trell, 335 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:33.399 your twenty nineteen Utah team may have been the most 336 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.279 talent and I mean this now, I mean seriously, like 337 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.000 top to bottom, it could have been the most It 338 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:40.759 could be the most talented Utah football team in the 339 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:44.360 history of the program. And obviously four undefeated a eight 340 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:47.480 undefeated and those guys have acclaim the seasons that are 341 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:50.240 very very special. But yet, do you guys ever talk 342 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:53.720 about twenty nineteen, how many just awesome players you had 343 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:54.519 and what could have been. 344 00:14:55.440 --> 00:15:00.000 Yeah, I think I think the more we talk about it, 345 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.919 and the more people talk about it, it just makes 346 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.519 it that much worse that we weren't. We didn't get 347 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.159 a chance at the to you know, Oh, I guess 348 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:09.759 we did get a chance. We just didn't do it, 349 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:11.919 so I'll put it that way. But yeah, I think 350 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:13.679 we talked about it a lot, and we know, but 351 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.519 it's hard to have no hardware and say that you 352 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:19.399 were a good team. So I mean, if we're being honest, 353 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.840 everybody plays this game for the love of the game 354 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:25.799 and not and to win, and we won a good amount, 355 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:28.039 but just not enough. So I think we were a 356 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.000 great team. I think I always think that we were 357 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:32.879 a great team, and I'm just grateful to be a 358 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:36.240 part of that that those great four years, and not 359 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:37.720 only just twenty nineteen. 360 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:40.320 Before I set you loose, and I do have to 361 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:43.720 apologize to all the former players who I asked this 362 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:45.559 question to, and I've asked your teammates. 363 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:47.120 We asked Zach a couple of weeks ago. 364 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:52.000 You know Terrell Burgess, you know, good looking, charismatic kid, 365 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:56.279 Utah football player, senior year, really really good. I don't know, man, 366 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.840 two hundred and three hundred K or something like that, Like, 367 00:15:58.919 --> 00:15:59.159 do you. 368 00:15:59.120 --> 00:15:59.919 Ever look at it? 369 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:02.240 You know what I'm saying, Like, you ever look at 370 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:03.480 what college football is now? 371 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.240 And go, man, I was just a few years too late. 372 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:09.559 I know, it's crazy because I was just talking about 373 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:11.600 this as one of my friends about how like, oh, yeah, 374 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:14.559 our parents just had us too early. But yeah, I mean, 375 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:17.519 it's crazy to even think about it. I'm happy for 376 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.480 the players now. I think I've always thought that college 377 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.279 football players deserve to get paid, So I'm excited that 378 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:26.279 they're doing it. Is I can only just hope that 379 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:28.879 they continue to make the right choices and micro ight 380 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:31.639 decisions with the money they're giving at given at a 381 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:34.120 young age, and earn not just given, earned at the 382 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.919 young age, and continue to do right and help the 383 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:40.600 younger generation be able to just keep going. But yeah, no, 384 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:43.240 I'm excited for them. I think my senior year, maybe 385 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:44.679 I would have made a little bit, but you know, 386 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.240 hindsight's always twenty twenty and will ultimately never know that. 387 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.240 But I'm not bitter about it. I'm really happy for them, 388 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:54.480 and I just I hope it continues to just grow 389 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:54.919 the sport. 390 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:58.080 Where do you keep that Super Bowl ring? 391 00:16:58.480 --> 00:16:59.799 I don't know if I should be saying that on 392 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:03.919 the all right, fairnore in California. It's here. It's in 393 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:07.319 a safe space. It's in a lock box here in California. 394 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:09.559 I mean, I don't really take out very often, but 395 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:14.799 it's something also to whoever asked, So it's a great accomplishment. 396 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:16.599 I'm just happy to be a part of that team. 397 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:18.759 Good stuff. Hey, Trell, thanks for the time, man, have 398 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:20.480 a great weekend. We'll get you back on soon. 399 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:22.920 Okay, yes, sir, thank you. I appreciate it. 400 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.079 Rell Burgess really really good player for Utah twenty nineteen. 401 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:28.759