Speaker 1: See she Dexter, you canceled your own show. Hello, my
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to Dexter Resurrection Episode eight. I am I don't know
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Speaker 2: I'm the Pantyhoser, I'm the.
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so yeah, let us talk about this quickly. Taylor, Phil,
I'm gonna start with you. So today was announced. Obviously,
you guys did all of Ala and Alien Sorry, Dexter
Original Sin, which you can go back, and all the
reviews of their eyes on the last two and you know,
everything was looking good, and I guess I can pull
let me pull up because I shared this statistic or
I had this statistic. Any one second of the cancelation
of the show is very surprising. So that's what was
annow say where In April, after the show ended, they announced, Hey,
Dexter Original Sin Season two here comes. Obviously they you know, uh,
there's a trendy show, which we'll talk about. But Dexter
Original Sin sit records for Showtime and was their most
streamed premiere ever at the time. The finale had more
viewers than the premiere and it became Showtime's most stream
series in a decade. That's Dexter Original Sin obessly for
our new series because like Dexter kind of beats it
all the time, but still very successful. I'm not sure
even what it was critically. I say critically it like
did decently. I don't think people like were as mad
about it as me. But Dexter Original Sin. Let me
just even go to raw Tomatos, it was pulling a
seventy so that's that's a pretty good score. There were
not seventy eighty percent, but yeah, they are seventy eight
percent for the audience. But yeah, then they announced today
that no, they are canceling it. Uh, there's a few
things cited as far as if you don't know, Paramount
has some new leadership right now. So I think you
guys actually a couple weeks ago on a newscast covered
like all these changes and things Paramount's doing. Well, here's
a new thing they're doing where they looked at it
and they said they just want the focus to be
on Michael C. Hall and this dexter and they're gonna
no longer go forward as of right now. Like I said,
there's no word on the Trinity thing, if that's still happening.
That was announced, but I'm gonna I don't know unless
it's I got three episode mini series. I'm gonna lean
on the side that I don't think we're gonna see that.
But yeah, Taylor, what are your thoughts on some of
this with some of the changes that you know, even
though it does some great numbers for showtime and whatnot,
they go, oh, you know what, it's best, let's part
way a's with this and we'll just and in this
report did say that a season two writers room was
open for Dexter resurrection, So that does not mean that
it has officially been renewed, but at least they're kicking
around the tires, like what could season two be? And
I think it's going to be because I think that's
the primeline Dexter. But yeah, what were your thoughts on
this before we get in this episode, because this was
some big news that came out today.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's something that I you know, I would
have been curious. Of course they put out a season
two of dex original sin, I would have watched it,
and I'm sure they would have hooked me because Dexter
always has a way of pulling that off and kind
of hooking me in with the way it does its
cliffhangers and its stories and debacles. So there's that. But
I'm not necessarily losing sleep over this either. I mean
season one was a retelling of the story we already knew,
but just more boots on the ground, like here it
is in your face, like we're gonna present everything from
point A to Z just what happened at this point
of time. And they added a lot of extra stuff
in there too, that again we didn't know about, like
the whole Brian Moser thing and such.
Speaker 1: But some things we didn't need to know about, you know.
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, somethings I need to know about, brutal.
So at the end of the day, I'm not upset
by this at all, and I think it's great that, Okay,
this is going to end and we can just see
it continue off. When you literally skip to the first
season of The Dexter, you're not missing anything. But it
was a fun ride but lasted, and I just I
just feel bad for the actors and actresses because they
were all super energetic and passionate about the being a
part of the franchise. And you said to Life, I'm
sad for all of them. Yeah, especially the guy who
plays young Batista.
Speaker 1: They're gonna say the guy plays young Harry.
Speaker 3: You know young Harry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a young Hairy in that show.
Speaker 3: Yes, later, I know. I just thinking around, So I'm
not upset about him. He's gonna be poppinground geek verse
for quite some time.
Speaker 1: I just remember when I was off on pat Leive
and I just heart Yeah, Like he's just like a
one to one to the Harry and the show, and
I was just lose. In my mind, I was ready
to come back that and I like you when you're
watching this podcast, and then yeah, I was R I
P R I P to Dexter Original Sin because you
know what, no matter what it gave in five years
from now and know it's talking about dex Original Sin,
we will be talking about original Sin because we have
the great package. Dempsey, who you know minor sports we
saw tonight, which was great. He had like quickly we
saw a photo of them, so you know that's good.
Did you miss that, Kirkland?
Speaker 2: I definitely missed that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's when Beg's Cops. She was like going through
some like Dexter researching and she's flipping through five.
Speaker 3: Footage of the guy's house.
Speaker 2: From that purpose.
Speaker 1: They don't Some fucking movies and shows do that. They'll
be like, look, we got the scene for the clients,
like the movie scene. It's like fuck off, like do
something else, you know? But uh yeah, and Tarn do
you think trendy c Lights day or you think that's
gonna be done so as well.
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna I think we're gonna see it.
Once Jonah appears in this show, they're gonna go full
steam ahead and be like, yeah, Trinity, let's let's do it.
Speaker 1: What about you, Kirkle, how you take all this news?
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm a little sad by it. I enjoyed the
show while I was watching it. It was until after
the fact that I put that show down rewatch Dexter
that I started to have some issues on just like
the continuity wise of things and how they're changing.
Speaker 2: Some things and even just jumping you know.
Speaker 4: Of course from the Christian Slater performance to the James
Ramar it's a very different feel of the character now.
Speaker 2: I think the better version is the James Ramar version.
Speaker 4: But part of me still really enjoyed like just watching
the screen, you know, with Christian Slater being on and
just just with the Miami vice hered and like, what
the fuck is gonna happen now? Like what other skeletons
in this Harry's closet?
Speaker 2: Are we going to be unfortunate?
Speaker 4: So yeah, like part of me is a little bit
sad that we're not gonna be, you know, going down
because like just review wise, like that's always fun, you know,
like we got this great video that's.
Speaker 2: Just gonna be living on in the GV meme.
Speaker 4: So like all of that potential for another season, like
those moments, I'm a little bit sad that I'm gonna
be missing out on it. I feel like anytime a
new Dexter type show comes out, I'm like, Hey, what's
gonna be Like the Kurt of this show, you know,
or or the Patrick Dempsey meme of this season. I
feel like they every show kind of has one or
two of those moments. I feel like the Resurrection hasn't
been anything to stand outy, Like there's the Beg's cop
but like I don't really love that, Like it's not
funny to me, you know, like if that hit maybe
that would have been the meme, but who knows, so yeah,
And then on the other side of it, like actually
looking at it like critically, like I think I agree
with Taylor wh all the actors did a solid job.
Maybe most of the actors, I should say I should
I should rewind that a little.
Speaker 1: Bit with some roast here tonight la.
Speaker 4: But just like like the main guy that did Dexter
or like the actress that did dev like I thought
they were like so solid, like throughout the entire season
and even in like there's some really juicy deb stuff
that we got into on the pre Coel stuff that on,
like I guess would have been limiting.
Speaker 2: Because we know what happens to that character. That's the
issue with the pre Coel stuff. So at the end
of the day, because it is a prequel, I.
Speaker 4: Feel like that helps soften the blow a little bit,
even though in hindsight I didn't love a lot of
the stuff that they did.
Speaker 2: In that show.
Speaker 4: I'm mostly just speaking to when I was doing my
rewatch of Dexter there, but I don't know, I had
some fun with it. So yeah, and I'm curious how
much that was coming up a lot tonight. But I'm
super curious how much this is affected by like maybe
just Michael Sea Hall's inclusion in the Dexter mythos and
just it well, yeah, like like like were the plans
to do like more seasons of Original Sin, thinking that
Michael Sea Hall wouldn't want to be like boots on
the ground, like Okay, I'll do a couple of narrations
here and there, or do you already know that we're
going to be getting It's like the Disney slate of
the Dexter.
Speaker 1: So you're saying if Dexter stays dead and like the
Prime Universe original Sin probably carries on, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like Michael S.
Speaker 4: Hall didn't want to come back and like fucking wrestle
ghost jamesmar that's all you can do, right, Yeah, yeah exactly,
But like he's doing this now, it's like, fuck, I'm
still my prime voice. We could do ten more seasons
of this, Like okay, we're going to cancel the original
Sin show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, Patrick Gibbs, and send your mat
fan mail to Michael sea Hall who probably donuts and stuff.
Speaker 4: So if they just do ghost versions, all these characters
that I'm gonna miss, like even like you know, ghosts,
I'm still pushing for ghost Curd, but go stuff Patrick
Dempsey or I guess he wouldn't be a ghost, but
he is.
Speaker 1: He's dead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what's the ghost or sorry, what's the actor
that plays young Dexter? It's Patrick something.
Speaker 1: Is Patrick Gibson, Yeah it is Patrick Gibson. Yeah it
is Patrick Gibson's Patrick Dempsey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I was intertwining those names. Yeah, just ghost
version characters a little dead.
Speaker 1: Uh. One to bring up the Weekly I think I've
read this last week. But here's Taylor's thumbnail this week
of Ghost Young Hair, I love it and there yeah,
so he will live on. You have a you have
a big issue with the panty house, Like okay, he
didn't use panny hose the season one, but you remember
that season one where one time he did a kill
with his face entirely wrapped in plastic and his face was.
Speaker 2: Like that, yeah, yeah, this was just like okay, I'll wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it's it's funny because the way when
Kirkland says, oh, you know, like you got Kurt and
you got the Patrick Dempsey, which I think the only
thing I end like. It's not like the whole character
was like that. It was literally just that clip at
the end where he has this whole plan and then
the last five minutes of finale he just decided. It's like,
I mean, I fucking kill you and he just goes
Ham and his wife and none of it makes sense
anymore for me when Kirklain's like, oh, but then we
got like this season when we have like the Beg's
cop but I don't really enjoy that. That was just
me for all original sin right where it's like I'm
just not enjoying this because I obviously it was only
on two of those reviews, but in the discord and
those last two episodes, I tried to stress that, like
I did not enjoy a lot of the additions. I
think you guys said that there's a couple definitely deb
was the best. I think Gibson grew into the role,
even though I don't think he fully got there. I
think I always said, like when he was in the
kill room, he didn't have that same that that gear
that Michael C. Hall does. I think he was good
at playing like the awkward pretending to be a normal
guy Dexter, but when it came down to kill I
used didn't buy the dark passenger was bruined and that
guy where Michael Sehall still has that right Austin, He's
been doing it for many years. But you watched that
first season, you can believe it right away. So maybe
we could see these characters again in flashbacks, because they
did that a couple of weeks ago where they showed
Dexter's first kills from that show. They showed Patrick Dempsey
in this show. So I would like it if they
do a flashback or they talk about the story and
you could I don't need Christian Slater back. I like
Christian Slater. I think he was just terribly miscasts Harry,
but like Dexter or dead, like that could be a
fun way to.
Speaker 3: Bring the next time you get them, they're gonna be this.
Speaker 1: No, you can't move see Hall on that wig anymore,
you know, Like I would like that if anytime they
do flashbacks, you use that cast now. But yeah, I
think it's like with Kirk and said, I think because
this has been a hit, and I also think there's
you know, I guess to Kurt till my thoughts it's like, yeah,
and the Brian Moser stuff I really didn't like. Like
there's tons of stuff that was breaking cannon or just
on the lines of hey at that point, it's like
the Star Wars thing where I'm like, just remake it
then just say, hey, we're starting Dexter over, but we
want to start with him right out of college. I
don't like when it's like, oh, there's this, and there's this,
there's this, but then none of them makes sense. It's
like that to me just shows people being lazy. I
hate it when they do in Star Wars. They hate
with Marvel DC and Hay in Dexter where it's like,
especially with Dexter, it's like the show's right there. And
Star Wars sometimes I get it's harder. Dexter's eight seasons
and it's the original people back, it's the Clyde Philps
had something to do with the visual since so it's
like all of the crews there. You watch season one
and say, oh, look we just can't do this, this,
this and this.
Speaker 3: Pretty something that with every ip are just those ones.
Speaker 1: I think the ones I care about because like, if
it happens somewhere else, I'll be like, oh that sucks,
but like it doesn't hurt me. I think the big ones,
especially for Star Wars when they said everything's canon and
the MC where it's like so interconnected. When they do it,
that's when it hurts. But that's I mean, like many
franchises really don't like they do that, but it's they're
not so interconnected. And hopefully we talk about Peacemaker where
you know, they change some things, but it's a new
universe and we hope that now the guy running it's
gonna have a clear vision. So it's just to me,
it's just it just feels like it's always oh, we
can't do that because X, Y and Z, and it's like,
well whatever, you know, as much as I like and
or they did that right with K two S, So
so I digress. I do not like the show. I
don't think the show was a good show. I think
there's only a few performances that saved it. And I
think at least so it works as like a solid
just one season if you like the show, because it
does end with fucking Brian Mos was just staring at
the Morgans through a glass and you can just well,
that's where it ends in the next time you pick
up is twenty years fifteen years later when he's after Dexter, right,
because to me, that was me and kirking up on
the finale of like, Okay, if Briandmos was just around
all the time, what the hell are they gonna do?
Like he already was like trying to fucking drown deb
and all this, like we're getting into really like odd territory, right,
and then for the show. Yeah, I also think the
other thing is so it's like focus on the Hall stuff,
and in that sense, I think it's like we talked
about those of the MCU recent like many years, but
more recently right of like now they're like not doing
as many shows and seeing his Star Wars and as
many shows and MC they're gonna try and go back
to two movies a year. I don't think Dexter is
obviously the same with three shows, but I do think
there could be hi Mount where someone's like, are we
gonna like over fatigue people character like what's the better
version of Dexter as an ip the Resurrection of Michael C.
Hall just doing his thing or Resurrection and Original Blood
and Trinity, Like then you start to feel like Andy,
I know you like your Yellowstone things, but it gets
comedic when you can't even name like the name of
the new one right, and that's hight. I just feel
like like Dexter, New Blood, Dexter Resurrection, Dexter, Original Sin,
Dexter Trinity. It's like, is there gonna become a point
where people finally look and go and like also the
yells and that's what happening. But we've seen with other brands, right,
and could that was that the worry maybe with Dexter
where it's like, eh, people are gonna sat like they're
gonna get bored on this and then it's just gonna
kill kind of everything. So let's just put our investment
into that. And then also the other thing is I
get it because there's all those records I listed off
right of like I'll read them one more time. It
was like biggest streaming whereas okay uh sets record for
most stream premiere at the time, Finale had more viewers
than the premiere and the most stream new series in
a decade. Now that's great, right, but also means those
numbers could still just be super low even if they're
breaking said records. It's again of like if this show
was a massive hit, and even if these records were
really huge, I think they would have been like, well,
it's not cancel, it's doing great. That's the thing we've
told to before just with streaming in general, it's always
hard to gauge what's an actual success, right, So it's
like same thing act like comes out Disney Praise, eleven
million people watched it in seven days. We're so happy
with it. What happened seven weeks later, Yeah, we're canceling
that show. We're not doing anything more of it. So
that's the thing with like we've seen so many examples
of people come up being like these streaming numbers are fantastic,
and then cut to a few months, half year later
where that thing's getting canceled. So it's like, are they
really that fantastic or is it just fantastic in the
scope of like what if Showtimes all their other stuff
is like super low and just because Dexter's names on it,
that's why Bruce stuff for news series and it could
be right, So that's why it's like, with the streaming age,
we can really trust nothing. And yeah, Trinity, I it
gets canceled. I'm not mad about it. I wouldn't mind
if they did just like a mini series and hey,
it's not gonna be a whole show, but we're gonna
be like a four episode. Here's a look, but like,
I don't know if I need that, but uh, at
least I think that puts to bed like that the
Harrison spinoff that was talked about, I think it's just
gonna be Dexter and probably as a brand that that's
probably safe because I think most people are like in that.
And we'll see if most people in this room like
this episode Tearfield now again, the actually episode non spoils.
What do you think about episode eight?
Speaker 3: Oh, I I liked it right off the hop. I
was having a good time with it. And there was
some surprises in here, of course, and it's just the one,
the one thing too with Batista that again'd save it
for spoilers, but it's just it was kind of laying
the groundwork of what's gonna probably go down with this character,
and and it's it's gonna be interesting to see what happens.
I saw, I got sneaky and I watched a promo
today for episode nine because I wanted to just see
what was going on. Yeah, you saw it. Yeah, they
definitely reaffirmed sometuff going on with with what they laid
out in this episode with Batista. So that's that's gonna
it's gonna be fun to see how how it happens,
even though it's you know, familiar territory. But uh yeah,
so that's that. And then getting into the more personal
stuff with Dexter, there's there's some stuff there and the
main thing that I'm excited to talk about breakdown is
you have this whole blessing kind of like reaffirmation. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then which is funny because I think everyone in
the discord has like there's so many that's a good
thing about like everyone theory Yeah, there's no, it's not
a non spoil it's not like my theory was. They
did not reveal the New York Rippers, so my spoyls.
But like this episode, I was like, oh, this is
definitely blessing, and then Tana michaels like it's definitely not blessing.
But there's so many you know, see, fucking you know,
it's getting bad when we're seeing Joseph quinn theories out there.
But legitimately, like real people that we talked to, I
feel like everyone has other idea so that is good
right now. Now just has to be like the X,
Like it can't be a pick that we're all Like
I said, if it was Joseph Quinn, I think all
of us will be like, oh fuck, this sucks, you know,
Like I feel like they got to land that now
because they are creating a every week Oh it's this,
it's this, but yeah, continue, I just want to say
that everyone I feel like has a different vibe. Now,
who the New York Ripper is, you know, which who
isn't even make like a big deal in the show
right now, Like it's one of these things the fans of.
Speaker 2: Like, but it's nobody in the show.
Speaker 1: Like it's not like Dexter's hunting the New York Ripper
and we have to find who it is, right, It's
just like this not even side storyline. It's like a
storyline in the whole show that's gone what maybe ten
minutes of screen time because what Pierre d English talked
about him and then the cop did last week? What
other time did it come up? Like we heard about
on the news and that's about it, right, So like
there might be there.
Speaker 3: Might be only in these eight shows like Original Trilogy,
Boba fat that's what this show.
Speaker 1: Is one which the fans could be building up. I'll
tell a story when a you go, but the fans
would be building up way more than it could be.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but I mean, I just I'm enjoying. I
enjoyed the episode. I thought it was fun, and I'm
I'm I'm excited to see what next week is kind
of unfold because what how many episodes do we have?
Speaker 2: Is next week?
Speaker 1: The next week is ultimate?
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, we got to see oh boy? Yeah, no,
it's a good episode. I'm happy with it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, kirkln you happy?
Speaker 4: I am happy? Yes, I am. I enjoyed this episode.
I thought this was I thought this was a banger
and one of those were when it ended, I actually
like gasped.
Speaker 2: I was like, holy fuck, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 4: We're cooking now, which is a great place to be, uh,
to be feeling at this stage, and you stop.
Speaker 1: That, I'm.
Speaker 2: No, I I thought this was really good.
Speaker 4: There's some good Dexter stuff in here, there's some good
Harrison stuff in here.
Speaker 2: Just just like I feel like, what's the.
Speaker 4: Word, converging of storylines a lot here, and as we
head into the finale next week, that's an important.
Speaker 2: Place to be.
Speaker 1: No, not next week. Didn't you just say this is
the penal, next week's the pal next week? Yeah, we
have two more episodes. We got some time, some time
to cook.
Speaker 2: Surprise, what's what's Angel's line?
Speaker 1: Surprise? And Mono.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I really don't like have much more to say than that,
like spoiler free wise, because I just want to jump
into some some juicy content here.
Speaker 2: But uh, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 4: There there's minor spoiler one moment when Dexter's wearing pantyhose
that just it just killed me. I think it's because
he's trying to be like like a menacing, terrifying character,
like the dark Passenger type aspect of Dexter, which he
is many times, but he has the pantiose on. No.
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to just conceal his identity. It's
not to make him scary. I think he's trying to.
Speaker 2: But the lines that he's delivering like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1: I suit you mean I thought you I thought you
were saying he put on the pantyhose to become in
that photo.
Speaker 4: It's so funny going on under there.
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying that he added the pantyhose
to make him more scared as the dark Passenger. It's like, no, Kirk, like.
Speaker 2: This is really going to terrify my victims.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, Red had that electric could my dark
Pastor's gonna have fucking panty.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just funny the way that he
was delivering the line, because he's like menacing, like as
he's face off here, I can't even focus.
Speaker 1: And then you gotta make that one of this, which
is the audio Avatar's Taylor like that's gonna be our
third Dexter one because yeah, because what we got let
me kill my camera. We got all srough, the o G.
We got the bad hair one, and then we got
the the come to me a more. Hang on, these
takes so long. You got that one, we're just looking
by topless Lila with deck Sta and then we'll get
the fanny hose one at some point. But yeah, nothing else. No,
I guess we can get rid of this too. I
don't know why you guys ever had a picture of
just original Sin Dexter, but you know what, the show
is canceled, so he's getting there. He's canceled as well,
so see you later, Original Sin Patrick Jison. But yeah, no,
I think this was a good, solid episode. I think
they presented a lot of things in here that I was.
It kept be on my toes, which is good. I
like this things they're doing with al like things are
doing Dinklage, the Batisa thing. I think what like that.
I think, like Taya said that, that's so far very formulaic,
and I'm just waiting for a shift because I said
this last week, we had now spoilers. If they do
what they're laying out, this is like the third time
they've done this in the show. Even the ending of
this show. I know some people have brought like this
is such a hype moment they're doing this. It's just
we've literally done this exact same scene before, and that
that's my always give me my hang up. As far
as again, Okay, it's tough because I want to do
something new, but then they do something like the serial
Killer room where it's like, I don't know, And granted
the serial Killer like table thing has not been as
bad as I worried. We still actually like I guess
it's the little sports, but we still have never found
out what Petered English really won with them, Like I
guess it was literally just to meet and give trophies,
like we did think it was gonna be something bigger
deal and just like yeah, he just meets to them,
so and I think that maybe helps. It helps that
there's not some big conspiracy of like what's going on.
So I do want them to still do new stuff.
I don't want to just watch Dexter for the sake
of just Michael C. Hall and that's always my worry.
So I'm waiting to see This episode was good, but
it can also be affected by the next to specifically
the finale. But yeah, I think there's some good twist
and turns in here. It's not completely paint by the
numbers on multiple things. I still like what's going on
with Harrison, even though that's another subplot that I think
we're just kind of dropping out of nowhere, so we'll see.
But yeah, I view this was a good episode and
there's some fun discussion to be had here, So we'll
do that after the adbreak and we are back. So yeah,
let's let's I thought there was a place I want
let's start with New York Ripper and Blessing and all
that stuff. So the reason I so last week I
said it was I thought it was gonna be danklished,
and but I did say it's like, okay, it depends
what they do here and we'll talk about. But how
they had him find out about Dexter this episode, I
would know that that does not fit at all, because
you could have done X, Y and Z a different way.
That doesn't fit. They're out there going and just the
reason I think it's Blessing is because they are really
playing up something that's angry has And I'm going by
the recaps, which Dexter in the past has had some
bad recaps that spoil things in the recap. The only
thing they have Blessing goes I have a darkness, and
that's like, okay. I think they're trying to tell the
people that don't pick up on the stuff when they're watching,
like look what we're doing a blessing, Like, hey, he's
the fucking guy. I just don't know, and I'm not
one hundred percent on it, but even the speech and
he's getting really mad, I think they're playing it off like, oh,
he's just a mad like he's just a bad neighbor.
But I'm not sure. I still really as much as
you guys have the meme pick, I don't think it's Jonah.
I know Mike is thrown out Harrison's new girlfriend, which.
Speaker 3: Is like, that's a very plausible pick, especially with her
injured hand and she's pissed, But.
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with her? Like, and
I don't get me wrong, I don't think Mike's added
the round possibility because these writers will do that, but like,
what does her injured hand have to do with her
being the ripper? When you on discord, Like.
Speaker 3: I think maybe maybe she was taking someone down and
she hurt her hand, and that's why she hasn't been
killing anyone for a while, because she got injured when
she was like beating the shit out of someone with
their crow bar.
Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, that to me is like a big That
for me is a dud. If it's her, I just
and and I'm actually liking the actress. I think her
and Harrison of good chemistry. I like this whole very
joking attitude she has, like oh I didn't I couldn't
believe this was my first time, and stuff like that's
all working for me. I just that just feels like
a rush villain to me. So it's like, don't get
me wrong, I'd still take that over the Quinn theory
that's been going on. But it's like for me, it's like,
I don't know, I don't really have a top because
I don't love I don't there's I've said it before.
My top is an unknown. My top is they leave
it open ended and it's a new actor next season.
That's my top. Next would be Blessing, then would be Jonah,
then would be her, and then would be Quinn. Because
I've taken Peter dingkliche out because I don't think Dicklache
is the ripper unless he literally just reveals like, yeah,
I took it up and they just dispatch it quickly.
I don't think they will, but they could. And this
is what I was saying before. I'm minor spoiling, But like,
Kirkland's seen the show and he'll get there again. And
at the Ray Kirklin's going, he's not gonna get there
for two years. But there's a character named Elliott that
gets introduced in the original show of Dexter, and I
remember what happened was they didn't do this big storyline
where uh Masuka's getting in shit in season seven or
something like that and whatever. He's cataloging evidence and he
finds that the ice truck killer, you know how he
always use like that the girl's ammutated arm with the
rainbow stuff, like he had the rainbow nail paint like
Dexter's mom. So they found that that was out of
evidence and it got sold and someone got it and
it was this big deal, like, Hey, who the fuck's
doing that? And the finale of that season, there's an
intern that's working at Miami Metro that's completely just a
nerdy guy the whole season, and at the end he's
fucking Fatista's sister and they're like panning around the room.
They is they like, he's fucking his sister and they're
panning around the room and the camera stops and in
the case he has the ice truck killer hand and
the theme plays and it's what do you say?
Speaker 2: I feel like I remember that?
Speaker 1: Okay, So that was a I think season six finale,
and that's why it was a big deal and was like,
holy fuck, like what's the action or what's gonna happen
season seven? It's just ah, he just liked to purchase
weird stuff. And then he dies in like episode four,
and he's just like a hacker. How he goes after Dexter,
He like like takes out his credit cards and like
makes his passport void, like he does that type of stuff.
And this is what I mean where I could see
that's why we're blessing. I could see it just being
something easy like that. Whor so yeah, it's just a
guy here, Like that's why anything that's like a bad scenario,
I could see it just being oh, yeah, you know
that really cool thing we built up. It is just
this girl at Harrison just ate out a couple episodes ago.
It's like all right, like and again that just makes
the world so small, Like Dexter, Harrison happens to start
dating the killer, like, I don't know, I just I
don't want. I don't like many of these. She's other
than the unknown one. But Taylor, are you in the camp?
Because I do think they're going Blessing.
Speaker 3: I think the girl. I actually really like that idea
because I think it creates in a very interesting scenario
with Harrison involved. But I like the idea of it
being Jonah.
Speaker 1: I think, right here, you guys, the Jonah boys.
Speaker 3: Bring Jonah Jonah boys, Let's bring him into bring him
in to the fold. I'm down with that. No, with Blessing.
I just think when she was playing that that tape
at the police uh school briefing and the guys talking
or you hear the voice of the the New York
Ripper and they're talking and talking, making these threats and
all that kind of stuff. That's all fine and dandy,
but it's just the way that the voice was talking.
And again, a killer could change it up.
Speaker 1: Their theory. That doesn't sound like her on the fucking TV.
Speaker 3: Hang hang on, hang on, hang on. I know that
it's like a voice modulator or whatever, but it's the
way that they're pronouncing and the way they're speaking very
seamless English. It sounds very different than how Blessing talks,
unless Blessing is faking it or try like oh, when
he's killing Kilmos, he talks perfect English, and it's like
like that, it's.
Speaker 1: Kind of he talks like a generic white male.
Speaker 3: That's that's what I'm trying to get on the New
York Ripper talks.
Speaker 1: I have a darkness. Well, that's why surprized fellow white
man he takes. It's a mission impossible. It's Ethan hunts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't like the coming in.
Speaker 1: Uh, But that's why I think that voice sounds generic,
because I think it could be someone, whether it's the
girl or Blessing, hiding their voice because it sounds like
scream Roger Smith. Right. So that's why I like, to me,
if you're saying the voice means it's not Blessing, then
it can't be that girl either. That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: To me why it wouldn't be the girl, because because
there wasn't a woman's voice on that tape.
Speaker 1: She could also be a voice.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying that too. It's not the modulator that's
in question here. It's it's the way that they are
actually speaking.
Speaker 1: But he could change his whole speech pattern.
Speaker 3: He could, like he could, And I feel like that's
way too much of a stretch for these show writers
to do something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know about that. Who's uh so, let's see,
I don't know what the whole name is, but I
heard interesting episode nine theory that Batista comes and tailing
Dexter falls into Prayterer's place where Dexter and Praiterer are
maybe in a vault. While they are in the vault,
Batista breaks in, Charlie shoots out of missus. Who's Charlie again?
Is that who?
Speaker 3: Charlie's yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Shoots at her and kills say, shoots at him missus.
Then he shoots at her, and Dexter and Batista come
out of the all Batista while point they gut it
both breaks in, blah blah. Let's see, I'm not gonna
read the full thing. I think that we like, I'm
in that camp that that's how Batista's surviving is like
I've been rocking out theory for a while, but for
some reason, Dexter Batista will be in the same place,
something will happen and they will have a like I said,
a mini truth just to get through a situation and
then go forward. I really don't want he's.
Speaker 3: Gonna as Dexter for help killing these cops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which was funny this week their gasline him to
be like the dumb call, but like it was so
stupid where it's like Batista's like I got proof on
the Bay Harbor Butcher and this guy I know we've
joked about Batista, right, and like thanks Dexter never saw
it the way like he's a little loof at times.
But I thought with this Batista, right, he's been the
captain for at least a decade now, and I felt
like when he's coming in and he's hunting and stuff,
it's like, Okay, he's going to maybe a little bit
you know, smarter on how he does this thing. But
when he calls it, I got proof, and it's like
he doesn't have the alleged victim. He doesn't have the
alleged killer. It's just a room of plastic. He I
forgot that he lied to him that he steals cat
and I guess I missed that.
Speaker 3: Look I got the trecker.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Like I think that's my thing of Like
they made him look like a fucking year one rookie,
Like he looks so bad and I've said this before,
and I'm in a corner both ways. If he dies,
I'm failing the show and if they set him up,
I'm failing the show. Because Dexter did that the dokes
he did, he was gonna do this to Louera before
it never shot him so or shot her. So it's
like this would be the third it's it's it's just
annoying that every resolution of all the Miami cops after Dexter,
what is it, Well, we'll just frame them to be
a killer. We're framing to be something's wrong with them.
We're up to something no good. So it's just like
and I just feel like that would be very hard
for me to believe. Of like what's the end result
of the show really then where it's like Doakes gets
framed right, and then the narrative is actually this whole time,
it was Angelatista that framed Dopes and then what five
years when the show ends and Dexter does get caught like, well,
actually no, Batista wasn't a same Well, it's just like
it just feels too samesy. So that's why I hope.
I'm hoping it is the they have a truce for now,
but then Batista will take him down if he just
gets completely framed. That's very unoriginal, the same way as
the ending it they did the Hello Dexter Morgan ending
with Peter Dinklish. They literally did that. They just said, hello,
I didn't know you have a son. Like it's it's
like shot for shot the same. So it's like we're
just playing the hits right now. We're just doing the
same stuff. That's what I really hope Batista does not
get framed. But Kirkle, when do you think do you
think Batista you're gonna meet some hormonals in jail or
what's going on?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's definitely a suspect. Now, he's a very individual
over that whole ordeal. I loved how he just did
not think this through guy runs away. He like did
not get his name, his fucking phone number, anything. Just yeah,
it's all pointing towards him. Looking pretty sketchy, and then
when he pulls up the track or of course it.
Speaker 1: Like just.
Speaker 3: Pants are off, he's wrapped up.
Speaker 1: He had time to get semi dressed though, and they
had his jacket so you know, next to her had
him ready to go.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so the way that whole scene went was
just hilarious to me. And then yeah, as it just
snowballed into this uh just crazy man tail I.
Speaker 2: Got a kick out of.
Speaker 4: I kind of hope they don't go the full Oh
it was him the whole time. That's been so same.
See yeah, yeah, and like even in hindsight, like what
was it the previous episode when they're getting uh they're
like interviewing Dexter like the New Cops, and he's like, oh,
yeah he was crazy, but yeah life.
Speaker 1: Since yeah whatever, I think him and dogs were fucking actually,
you know, like yeah.
Speaker 2: So I kind of hope it doesn't go that route.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that like Angel remains a sus individual. And
then it like seems like that might be a play
for Dexter to just kind of like get him off
his tail that way. But then you know, some other
factor comes into play. Not necessarily Batista dies, but I
don't know.
Speaker 1: I would love it. I don't think they're gonna do
this because they're making like the Beachy's Cop kind of
Susa Batista. I would love a twist with a twist
where a season the last season, but to put Dexter
maybe back on the run or something where Dexter thinks
this plan is working, but they just use it to
fucking gaslight him like they're full in on. Yeah, Batista's
bay Butcher and you think he's in the clear, but
they actually got him like a mission the rooms, the
rooms fall down and hunts there. We got chicked off
the whole time. Yeah, the bege Cop is dogs, you know,
Batista old ono. I didn't know you were still alive.
Surprised but like yeah, I I don't know, we're good.
I'm not good. Well you took me that club? No no,
I just like to dance scary movie. Yeah, yeah, I
don't tell yours, but uh let's see. Uh super Mike
says Travis. I it's not gg Why are they focusing
on the arm so much? You could also have her
eventually go after the mom Harrison had a crush on. God. Mike,
you're not wrong, but what your picture right now sounds
like some bad original sin stuff of like because like
that thing like that mom storylines completely just off on
the ether, knowing I know I would I would not
pizza because I'm not saying Mike's wrong. I just that
idea of like they break up and they do like
a cruel and not what was the oh a fatal
attraction where she's fucking crazy and she's going after the
lady that Harrison's into. Net Like this sounds like some
really iffy stuff, and I don't think make's wrong because
we've gone some iffy stuff from Dexter multiple times. Right.
I feel a little less so because Clyde is on
the he's show running this. But like there's some stuff
this season, like how they reconned all of new Blood
that I thought, Okay, that's very iffy. So I was
maybe hoping the arm was just to have more bonding
with him and his dad, because they did use that
as a moment that hey, you know my dad, he
wasn't a cop, but he puts so many people away
his bloods there and as there's many things you could do,
so I was kind of hoping it was a twofer
of one that bonds him with the new girl more,
and that also puts Dexter in a bare light for
Harrison right now, who I think they're finally on like
good terms. I think now a prayer showing up that's
gonna fuck everything up. But like even this episode when
they told the landlord so again, I talked to him,
told him about like the things you take care of people.
He's like, oh, you scared him a little, didn't New Dad.
He's like, maybe just a little. Like I think there
they have like a good understanding. Even Dexter two, when
he's about to kill somebody, he's like, oh, I'm just
kind of tired. So I like that he's not like, yeah,
you know what I'm doing Tonight's son. He's just like, yeah,
I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep this as separate as possible.
So that's my hope, Mike, that it's just some good
character writing to like bond these three characters somewhat. But
you're right, it could be that I just don't know
again why like same thing. Then she's injured. If she
can't be a fucking cop, and past the physical, she's
gonna be taking down people maybe twice her size as
the New York Ripper, Like I guess we have to see, right,
but with an injured hand too, Like I, I don't know, it's.
Speaker 3: Just all the nerve damage, right, It's just it's there's
like certain bars you have to meet to be a cop,
and that's just one of them. Like, it doesn't mean
it's gonna inhibit her murdering people.
Speaker 1: But she's not killing cops then, So I just I
guess I need to see the line of in a
well ridden line of how does I have If I'm
Travis Snell, I want to become a cop, I get
nerve damage, How does that transform into me killing innocent people?
Take that out? If cops were dying, then I could say, Okay,
that does maybe make some sense because she's jealous, x
Y and Z right, but they're not. It's just innocent people.
So how do we get from that through line from
nerve damage, I'm gonna start killing innocent people when her
job was she wanted to save innocent people. That's from
having the issue she's a senior in college. I don't know,
I guess, so yeah, I don't know, maybe Dad call
hers younger or whatnot, But still, like, how do we
get to that line, Taylor, she wants to be a
cop to savings some people, and now because she has
an injury, she wants to kill.
Speaker 3: She wants to save innocent people. I mean, it could
be like the Dexter approach. Maybe someone's giving her a
code and you know, she's, uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess if that's the best forgetting fuck man
or we're in some deep trouble then that you know,
Oh it's actually Harrison's adoptive daughter. You didn't meet her.
We're gonna do Gigi original sin and we're gonna explain
that all and everything like that. So, Kirk Life, you
mentioned one thing, and I've seen you Wins a couple
of times. What do you What do you feel about
if Gigi's the New York Ripper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 4: I feel like the setup of her being like, want
to become a detective and just like that avenue of
the character that we've kind of been revealed, uh to.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just like that more than if she's just oh yeah,
I've just been fucking ripping people apart, fucked up my
arm and I don't know, it's just it's just a
bit of a jump there, and I don't necessarily want
like everyone well, I guess the previous lady that he
interacted with wasn't a cycle. But yeah, there's just like
people that are coming across Harrison's path, just like people
that kind of fit the code for Dexter. Like, I
don't want it to just be everyone in Harrison's life.
Dexter's just fucking removing from the playing field.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Then, it's like the Star Wars thing, right, like everyone
knows the Skywalkers. It just like that. That's why I
want the Ripper to be someone that we have no
idea anybody.
Speaker 2: I'm still in that camp like and even that.
Speaker 1: Jodah, like I guess again that's still Dexter knowing him.
But like that's almost a bit better because at least
there's been some distance and it's like he's been the
Ripper and they happen to come to New York where
it's just like Dexter and Harrison haven't met many people
there in New York, and if it's like Blessing or Gigs,
so it's like out of the three people they've met,
like one of the three happens to be another serial Killer,
Like it feels way to just is everybody zerial killer
again when we already have a season where it's like
Dexter's having dinner with six zero killers.
Speaker 4: You know, I like blessing being the ripper more than
a being gig. I feel like, yeah, very low on
a being gig. But I don't want it to be
blessing either. I I want like some other avenue for
blessing that's not just going down this dark rabbit hole
on He's like he's like one bad day away from
being fucking Eddie Texter is gonna kill it and Spider
Man three and he's just like, please God.
Speaker 1: When Dexter is like having a wife was dinner and
he just walks in, I'm gonna give myself the one here,
just dexta, could I speak with you for a moment?
And the most awkward like he's in the middle of
a conversation, he's eating not natural, so can I take
you for a moment please in the other room, like
and his wife says nothing. It's just like, That's why
my worry is. I feel like they're making him the
dark side pop up too much. That's why I'm getting
the dark Passenger vies because it's just like and even
the speech he was like yelling, he was getting really mad,
So it's like, is he slipping it? And because here's
my thing. If he's not the ripper, I'm kind of like,
what the fuck are we doing here? Then? Like what
are we doing here?
Speaker 4: I wanted to be like one other thing, like I
don't know he's he's just beating on fucking homeless people
or something.
Speaker 2: To get courageous, I'll give.
Speaker 1: You a free ride. I was a boy soldier, my mom,
you know all that stuff. Oh my god. But that
that's the thing, is like, because like that that's where
rideshare Like he's not killing them, he's just serially beating them.
We don't know who he is. But like, and that's
why I'll give the credit to Mike. Where if it's Gigi,
at least like, Okay, we only met her two scenes
where it was me cute and then someone Harrison. I agree,
Harrison's too happier and now so she's bad news. So
I could see that that's where for me, if it's
not blessing, I'm just but even then with her, I
can also see that that's a romantic lead for Harrison
that could lead to other things hassle situation yet to
right well blessing. It's like, if he's really just gonna
be the like Dexter's landlord, I don't need this much
time with him. Just keep him the happy neighbor and
have some fun moments where he's like the dead bodies
and the like the shower and he sees the hook
and he fixed it, right, Like just do that type
of stuff. I don't need. I got a dark side, Dexter,
and he's just reaving him out, yelling that you betrayed
me downstairs, like what is happening here? Like I don't
know if I need this and stuff, but it isn't
even way he starts like if Deck, if Henrison knew
you killed a person, Like the way he's talking right now,
it just feels like they're setting those like lines up.
Speaker 3: And he gets mad about the fact that he killed
one person though unless he's just not.
Speaker 1: No, he was mad. I think that he was mad
that somebody that he personally knew knew that. That's what
he was mad about that that got out there. Because
they're just like then you can start because it's like Dexter, right,
you don't think he's a bad guy. And then it's like, oh,
how what happened to when he was a kid? Oh
that's kind of weird. Oh his brother was a serial killer.
That's kind of weird. Like when you start to find
out those personal informations that are kind of red flags
about the people donks laguereda deb It was all like
case something like something can't be right with him, He
can't be completely normal if all this stuff's happened. So
I feel like that's kind of the thing with Blessing.
It's like, if no one knows he was a childish
shoal soldier, if no one knows what happened to him,
and no one knows about the guy he killed, he
can keep that unrasped. But if people start to find out, hey,
like you killed someone X, Y and Z, then maybe
some scrutiny. So I feel like that's why it reminds
me of Dexter, who Dexter did not want that stuff
to be found out about him, right, like even the
the picture of his mother. At one point he burnt
it eventually saved and like hit it somewhere that but
I kicked him in the ass because someone found it.
So that's what I'm thinking is that it's he just
doesn't want that out there. So uh, pinto beeen saying
never mind, she's a sophomore, so she would have been
killing him middle school. They kept showing that cat statue
a lot to this episode. I thought that too, and
I'm like, is this one of fucking blessings like murder weapons?
Does he knock out the fucking people before he rips them?
I don't know, but yeah, I guess. But they did
throw out that theory though at the New York Ripper
that it could be a copycat, right, But I also
see I don't want that if it's like there was
a New York Ripper he disappeared and Gigi like took
up his legacy. Like that also sounds not like no
bueno for me on that one. I don't I don't
need a copycat in New York Ripper, like give us
the real Ripper, you know. So, but I'd take a
second ad break, It'll be right back and we're back
where we want to go next or.
Speaker 3: Nowhere go to h al Alice skating Al was.
Speaker 1: Supposed to die this episode, and yeah, I got out
of there ponytail guy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Rapunzel.
Speaker 4: It seemed like a little too convenient for it to
just be like, oh, I just ended up not liking
it and I left early, even though it sounded like
he did go there, so like.
Speaker 2: Maybe it is genuine. He just seems like so.
Speaker 4: Like over the top of the performance that it's like,
is this really a facade or it?
Speaker 1: Like and the fact he threw his phone out the
through his phone out the window the second his call
was done with Dexter, he definitely is working with like Prader,
they had some theory and whatever happened, I think Prayer
let him in. I could even say them be like
say you're going to Hamilton and we're gonna see if
we're in a car and we're gonna sit outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's why I think that he's completely in
on it, because it felt weird to me. It's like,
why wouldn't you phone? Like he had no intention of
seeing Dexter right because when he's like, oh, let's meet up,
I'll you know, I'll say I'll meet you halfway, He's like, na,
I like to keep my family life in the Preyder
stuff separate. So he had no intention of seeing anything else.
Why would he have not got rid of the phone
before that? Right?
Speaker 4: Do you think he's gonna just do the the good old,
you know, original Dexter just fast travel to wherever he
is and just murder him like you did to uh.
Speaker 1: Lila, Lilah. I would love it if they kept al
for next season. There's no rush, right, and I think
that'd be fun of like even if he deals with
Prader like he's on his hit list, and because that'd
be fun, Like maybe that's a fun two arc episode
of he's gonna go track him down, get him, like
I because we've got two episodes if we got Prayder
and Uma Thema and then whatever still's going with Harrison Cops.
It's like that's enough. We don't need al right now.
So I wouldn't mind if they keep him alive. But
he could easily that the episode next week could start
with him plunging fucking al you know, and.
Speaker 4: You know who has a ponytail? Dexter's friend with the child.
She's had a ponytail?
Speaker 1: I mean Harrison's friend with a child?
Speaker 2: What did I say, Dexter?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And like who is Dex's friend? The bees?
Speaker 2: Cough No, I like that idea, like make him live on.
Speaker 4: I feel like his just him being not dead is
like there's just something eating away at like me the viewer,
because we saw, like from his perspective, him just murdering someone,
Like I feel like that's pretty irregular in the whole
Dexter franchise, like just seeing like an actual murder from
his perspective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I hope he lives on for just the
juice of the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pinto Beans is feeling the same way you are
that he'd be going after the Harrison Girl, which is
like I guess, but like does that The only thing
is like if Prater gets killed, I don't think he's
come back to ne York because I feel like he
would feel like, oh, the red Dexter, whoever that guy was,
won the scenario probably not safe for me there. I
still think it would be a Dexter hunting him or
even and then too like, let's say they deal with
all this you brought up why, Like Kirkland, I honestly
could see that being the last scene of this season.
It's just like everything's dealt with the main story. Then
cut to Al hang out of his family walks in
and Dexter was there quick kill and then moves forward
like he just ready to go. He has ponytails hanging
out from all of them, like these are from your
victims owns, Like where the fuck do you have those?
That's evidence all over you, dude, But I could see that,
but uh, yeah, what were you doing? Do you think
I was in on it? Do you think he uh
is making it live this season or do you think
the whole dispatch of him one way or another?
Speaker 3: I think however this sends, it's gonna end in a
climactic way, crazy whatnot. And then you're gonna get a
opening scene of uh wherever he's from, Wisconsin, you get
opening scene of Wisconsin, and then he's doing something, and
then Dexter was just gonna pop up and like just
with the syrnch in his neck, and you're just gonna
be like, oh my god, he like found him or whatever.
I think that's how it's gonna go. I don't think
Al was in on it though, and bring him or
anything like that. I think it was just Uma Thurman
just tracking him. And then you have mentioned the big
gala that's happening here, So of course Prader's involved with that.
The gala's at the hotel, which brings Harrison into the fold.
Now they were eating obviously being at the hotel restaurant,
which is why Praterer was there, and it was really
fancy food. So it's just like, okay, now, this is
why things have come in the fold. I think it
was just Uma Thurman keeping like Charlie keeping tabs on
him a little bit more. And I don't think Al
had anything to do with.
Speaker 1: It, really, but you could she could have been keeping
tabs on him from Hamilton, right, That could have been
the setup.
Speaker 3: And go yeah, oh yeah, we don't know when it starts.
Just that he doesn't she doesn't feel good about it
about him, so I think that's that's that. But I
don't think that, uh. I don't think Al had anything
to do with it though, m.
Speaker 1: Okay, well to see and then yeah, we talked about
that Prader, Harrison and Dexter eating. Harrison has this terrible
line which I hate they're talking about. He said, oh
you scared him and you know, oh yeah, I did
a little of this and he looks at his dad
and he's like, oh, you gotta have a thing for justice.
Stoy Dad It's like, fuck, man, like, where were you
in New Blow when you explained what the code was? Like, no,
daw he does. Like even it's like and even I
think what made me more mad was Dexter taking be
and be like, huh, maybe I do what. We've seen
hundreds of examples of Dexter doing the right thing because
of X, Y and Z and Justice. Like he just
felt like again like they did the mission or the
Men in Black mind wiped to the viewers and like, oh,
Dexter's never realized he actually has a Justice Code of things.
It's like, what the fuck are we talking about here, guys,
But anyways, that's happened. He sees Prader coming in and
they's like, oh, Red, I didn't know you have a son.
So I assuming, at least at this point they still
know he's Dexter Morgan. But I feel like he's just
gonna have like endless tales like he there if they
don't know he's Dexter Morgan. Right now, they're gonna in
I don't know, twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: Or so, so Irson's just gonna be like, well, I
don't know about Red.
Speaker 1: This is my dad, Dexter. Dexter Morgan. You haven't heard him.
Speaker 3: He's the Bay Harvard butcher.
Speaker 1: He was married to Rita Morgan who was killed. Shouldn't killing.
Angel Batista is currently hunting him, and Angel Batista heard
of him. Yeah, he'll fuck you up.
Speaker 3: As Landlord is the New York rapper.
Speaker 1: In the restaurant my best friend Prada and it's like,
oh no, thanks for the voice modulation tool that have
been using. They just.
Speaker 2: Walk into.
Speaker 1: I think it just means we're gonna make a Dexter parody.
You know, we don't have any skill. We got horror
movie parodies, but we want any Dexter parodies, you know,
put them the list. But uh yeah, what do we
think is gonna happen here with Prayer in the coming weeks? Here?
Are you surprised by it too? That they that's how
the end of they walked up just saw them.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, no, that was that was That was
a fantastic way to end it. I think that they're
gonna know that he's not read like next episode. I
think that'll be revealed. I don't think it's like known yet.
I imagine just through some know, interrogation or or or
something or rather, I don't know, I'm hoping that we
get some more juicy like one on one between Charlie
and Dexter, of just just because Uma has been such
a back burner this whole season, underutilized paid good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too. So Yeah, I I.
Speaker 4: Think the Bay Harbor Butcher reveal be like, is Prayer
gonna be the one to figure it out? I I
don't think so. I think the extra would reveal that.
Speaker 1: But but at the same time, I'm I I was
gonna pitch he'll reveal that when he kills him, but
he only he already did that with uh like Neil
Patrick Harris right before he killed him, like I'm Bey
or Butcher. So it's like, I don't think they would
redo that scene twice. So I almost kind of hope
Prayer does somehow figure out. I don't know how he would.
Speaker 4: Like I think it'll come out without Prayer being on
the table.
Speaker 1: Me too, I think that now, Yes, I wonder too.
Wouldn't it be a good beat if while Batista is
following him, she was still also falling him as well,
and she saw the whole room set up, and she
could tell the Prader and prayder'ld be such a fucking
serial killer. Junkie would be like, shit, okay, that's interesting.
And then when you find out he's from like he's
from Miami, he's Dexter Morgan. I would love it if
Prader actually put all the pieces together because he has
some inside knowledge of Hey, you're you're the fucking be
Harbor Butcher and X Y and Z you know, you
want to talk for a couple of hours.
Speaker 4: It's a scene where Dexter is chasing Vinnie and then
Angels chasing Dexter, and then you have zoom out even further,
and then you have fucking Buddy watching Angel, and then
you got the other detective watching uh watching whoever whoever?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the New York Rippers somewhere in there too.
From far.
Speaker 4: You got Ghost Trinity watching Jonah yeah, Ghost Lady Vengeance
like behind them.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Slater, give me a scene with him
in the go. But uh, yeah, how's this going to
play out there? Taylor? Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think Praider is going to figure it out
right away. I think him being able.
Speaker 1: To two episodes, so I've.
Speaker 3: Got two episodes, But I think him holding that red
card close to his chest, is really going to work
to his advantage. Yeah, just I don't I don't know.
I don't know how it's gonna happen, if he's going
to reveal himself or Praider is going to actually like.
Speaker 1: Figure it out table.
Speaker 3: At this point, you have Batista being I mean Batista
not looking good in the eyes of the cops, and
he's the only one pushing for the Bahepper, Butcher actually
being here. No one else knows that. Everyone else everyone
else is kind of well, everyone's calling him Dexter, but
the only one that's really gonna be caught calling him
Dexter is his landlord. Really, and I Harris Harrison is
not gonna be like hey dex Hey Dexter. He's like,
hey Dad, So that gives him an little extra edge
of incognito. I would say, so, hmmm.
Speaker 1: I sure I was trying to find because I've made
a joke, but it sound like the very same delivery
of this is comedically one of my favorite scenes from
Dexter season two. It's so damn good we bring up
it's only fifty three second deserves to take me into custody.
This is Dexter trying to tell dead that he's a bacher.
Speaker 2: What I am?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll skip ahead. Here you go, dev I'm the
Bay Harbor Butcher. Okay, this is how I imagine he's
gonna do to Prayer next week. He's just gonna tell
the Bay Harbor Butcher.
Speaker 3: On the ground.
Speaker 1: On the ground, motherfucker, it's me. I'm the Bay Harbor Butcher.
This delivery from him next is my favorite one. I'm
him the butcher. That's how I want to tell. I'm
him on the butcher, Like right away, he just fills
the beans right away. It's just such a good little
moment there. But uh see what Mike says. I hope
we get a couple interactions with dex from Prayer after
he finds out he's the butcher. Would be nice to
know more about how the Butcher has thought of as
a killer of killers, I would agree, especially because it's
a come up multiple times even in the books now
like Doas comes up and stuff. So yeah, I would
like that pental beansa is not gonna happen. But funny
thought of doakes repeat of Doaks in Leila, where Prayder
finds out Dexter's the butcher angel and Prayer does something
to fuck Angel over. Yeah, I hope not. I hope.
I don't want that is my big fear of something
happens and Angel takes the fall and uh.
Speaker 3: I just oh he's taking it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. We got which again like really
like just odd scene where Okay, get the Beg's cop,
she phones Miami. We learn I guess that Quinn is
now Captain Quinn. So, you know, congratulations to Joseph Quinn,
you know, Captain Miami Metro. Very terrible pick, but that's okay,
And same thing. I would imagine they have a good relationship.
I imagine he would have how I know Batista and Quinn,
he would have covered from like a lot more and
then talk to Batista. But same thing. He just spills
the beans like yeah, no, he wouldn't be there on
work with may Or Butcher. That sounds weird. I don't
know why I'd be looking at that. Yeah, he's not a captain,
he's not there on anything. Like he just like out
sells his friend like it's just someone random, like just
don't play a little bit. I'll get back to you
and then touch base with Batista like hey cause especially
next week if we get I'm even somewhat more fine
if for some reason Quinn feels he fucked up, even
though he's like the fucking Miami retrocraptain probably thought he
could have read this situation. But if nothing happens and
like Quinn hasn't even called and be like, hey man,
like this detective was asked questions about you someone fell off,
just want to give your heads up, like what fucking
type of friend is Quinn? Then just like, oh, that's weird?
Like even then, wouldn't you be kind of I just
feel like if we work together, right, and let's say
we're not calls, But even then, let's say we found
out dun't because I was not here, Dylan went down
as a serial killer. Right, And then for some reason,
twenty years later, someone I know that you know you're
doing one of you are gone? Right, And someone calls
me and says, oh, like what's up with Taylor? The
like oh, I don't know X, Y and Z, Like yeah,
do you know anything with the Bey Harbor Butcher. If
that was the case, I would be calling Taylor the
right way. It'd be like one, what are you doing? Two?
The ring up the Bay Harber Butcher which was a
massive deal in Miami. So it's like if Quinn hasn't
even called Batista back, it just feels like such a
weird like just like, oh, here's another easy Domino set
up Batista to be like, well, he's not a working
cop anymore. I just I didn't like that scene how
it played at all. And I was excited because we
had seen the teaser that more Quinn was coming. I
thought I was holding it was gonna be some juice
of Batista telling him his theory, because then I'd be like, oh,
this is great because if Batista does go down or something,
Quinn will believe him. And Quinn's not gonna fucking fall
for the cop like the Dexter mind game stuff right now,
right maybe Masuka would, but no, it's just the call
like Bege's cop phone be like, oh, something suspicious, and
Quinn just made him sound more suspicious.
Speaker 3: So well, when the detective calls and he's like, oh,
I'm asking about Batista, look in the Baarbard butcher and
Quinn's like, oh fuck on the phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He literally it wasn't like oh yeah, that's an
old case. He literally looked around and he like knew
the phone and walk out of like your shot. So
it's like that's a big deal. Someone's mentioning the BHP
to me, that's like a and it's your case too.
To Miami, You're now the fucking captain. And then like
we're looking into I'm like why even it just was
off guard, like why are you looking like you're in
New York? Why would did this even be a thing?
Why are you looking into? Why have we been alert
by this if you think there's anything close to the
Bay Harbor? Butcher, like I just felt like how usually
in copp world would go like you'd be way more defensive,
but he was just down to give every X, Y
and Z what's going on Batista's life, like he felt
like Dexter last week. He felt like him, but like
Dexter was doing that on purpose. And when I don't know,
uh so, we says, I predict Batist and Charlie team
up to go after Dexter next season. I don't think.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: I don't see Charlie teaming up with people because like
I think, if Prato dies, she's move on or she's
gonna die. So I don't see that's not the realm possibility.
But I don't see Charlie kind of making the good
because I just feel like, what Prayer dies and she's
gonna be like really mad about Dexter doing that. I
don't think so, like unless he frames or something, maybe
frames Charlie is the BHP.
Speaker 3: She's gonna team up with Blessing as the Rippers. Yeah
the Rippers?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's perfect. You know anything else in
this episode we haven't covered?
Speaker 2: Can you imagine we just never see Quinn again? Do
you think that's possible?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: What a fucking what hilarious?
Speaker 1: I think it's possible, do you Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, Taylor,
do you think the last time we've ever seen Joseph
Quinn again a chance?
Speaker 2: If he never interacts with Batista? Like, man, that is
such a flag actually to me.
Speaker 1: Like again, let's say we played this scenario right, because
so Tay was gonna ask you too, in your mind,
if Fatista gets framed as the BHB, is he also dying? No? Okay,
so let's walk that way right in the next season.
I'm Joseph Quinn. I've been around Miami. This is the
third I'll say second, because Dexter's just framing Laguerreo to
be crazy and that's how she got like a gun
fight with the mobster and stuff. But still he framed her.
But still, this is the second cop in Miami that's
been the purview of Dexter. And who you can believe
this guy who's been a captain, no bad records or
anything like that, or Dexter who faked his death for
ten years and was also around all these other people.
Don't forget Joseph Quinn in season four and five was
investigating Dexter because he knew he was doing something shady.
And you know what happened, He just stopped investigating him.
I won't say why because Kirkla's gonna get to that point,
but it's just for a lame reason, like, oh, thanks
for doing me a solid good on you, and that's
pretty much and they just like call it. It's like
what I'm picture with Batista and they just call it truce.
But that fits because, hey, Quinn at that point, he's
kind of shady, he's dirty, he's the captain of Miami.
Now I'm gonna hope he's not shady and dirty anymore.
And Batista, they even said a couple ofps Ago one
of his best friends. I think he can called him
his best friend when we bought him show. My best
friend's retiring, So you're gonna tell me this guy goes
on the BHP and Quinn's never show up in this show.
It's not gonna call him. He's not gonna be in
the first fucking flight to New York.
Speaker 3: Be like, I get a call, maybe I think maybe
you'll get something like that.
Speaker 1: It has to be more than a call, though, like
if Batista, Hey, I got one call, Quinn, I'm in jail.
They're framing for the Bahar Butcher. Guess what Dexter Morgan's
live hang up? What I know Joseph Quinn. The second
that call ends, he's fucking there, like he's driving there.
I think the super would be there too. Fuck you, Yeah,
you're the butcher. How could your friend do butcher? How
could you do the silo Quero? She was your wife? Man?
You gas littered to think he doakes was the butcher? Like,
that's I just that's the that is the tight rope.
They're walking with another frame job again. I'm just all
these characters and people looking dumb, and I'm fine. The
Begi's cop and her partner looked dumb, because again they
are last week they had no idea what's going on,
and now.
Speaker 3: They're staring at him in the room and I realized
he's the killing I was like, oh, for fox sakes,
that was getting kind of shitty. That made them look
like fucking idiots.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, these are the worst police officers in the
history of Dexter, in the history. Like, it's just this
is some really bad stuff. I would trust Masuka more
out on the field than these fucking two people, you know.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I feel like the standard of police
officers in the entirety of Dexter, though, hasn't been like
that great, like as I'm going through.
Speaker 2: So that's I mean, San Fatista is actually such a
piece of shit, and.
Speaker 1: He's a good guy. Batisa is a good guy, though, Yeah,
how's he not a good guy?
Speaker 3: Wrong?
Speaker 2: Things like what like beat the ship out of a cop?
Speaker 1: But didn't that cop death? Yeah, but that cop beat
up his girlfriend? Right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, that was a call that said Marie gets the
best blow jobs in Miami. Okay, yeah, listen, he was
a little drunk. He's a little drunk. He got a
little carried away and stuff and Okaytiple he cheatd but
I mean the sense of, like, let's compare with these people.
Doags had multiple like questionable murders as a Miami cop.
Quinn multiple times on screen was shown stealing dirty money,
Harry Morgan, Dexter Organ, Devn fucking shot Laguerda. She killed Laguerda.
I'm the standard of.
Speaker 2: Cops that we have in the show. Like it's not.
Speaker 1: I just mean, That's why I said, put that all aside.
Batista still a good person. He didn't frame it like
the Cheetah's wife k passion that does suck, but like
the cop thing, he got a little heated. He didn't
frame somebody. He didn't kill an innocent person. He didn't
do all this terrible stuff. Even when Doaks. You just
watched this episode, remember when they thought when they were
investigating Doaks, he even gave the truth about Doakes. Like
Batista is a good guy. You know, Yeah, the passioned
versus wife, I guess the wife wasn't getting a no
let passion. You know, I couldn't understand what's happening, and
he tried to make it right, and you know he
did make it right. They got on good terms near
the end. But uh yeah, well we'll see. But yeah,
next week, we got Prayer. We'll see what's going on
if there is a I do feel like, luckily with
the amount of episodes we get, I think we're getting
the Ripper revealed in the finale, and I don't think
it's gonna be a close off. I do think they're
leaving it hanging. But like I said, I I do.
I'm always scared that Prayer is gonna drop it. He's
the fucking Ripper and they just they just close it
all up once he'son't done. Everything's wrapped up and we're
good to go.
Speaker 3: But the Gala, I'm the New York Ripper.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's doing anything of that, but you know,
he never know.
Speaker 3: Well he was, you know, he was emphasizing wheelchair accessibility.
Maybe he wants those the Rippers in a wheelchair. Something
wants He's a roll out there.
Speaker 1: And feels very specific. Think he knows the Rippers in
a wheelchair, but maybe maybe well you want pizza you
on that one?
Speaker 3: No, No, the Rippers in a wheelchair? Hard?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Hard?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, lead Gien. We'll be back next week to
talk about everything. That falls out from Dexter the penultimate episode,
and it won't be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye.