1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,399 Speaker 1: Look a little little sidebar. Pro tip for people that 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,080 I heard and I wonder if it works the same 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,960 on your suppressors. Is for people especially like professional end users, 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,919 run is suppressor a lot. You can weigh the can 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,879 when you get it. When you weigh the can, and 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,239 if it's getting significantly heavier, you have a lot of 7 00:00:20,519 --> 00:00:21,839 build up inside the can. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: Is that about right? One hundred percent? Yeah, you can. 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,120 You can tell that. I mean you can. Even some 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,000 people that run their guns a lot can feel it. 11 00:00:28,079 --> 00:00:30,719 You can feel that it's getting heavy out front, right. 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,240 I mean the guys like folks from the community that 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,600 I came from your gun as an extension of your 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,880 of your body, right, so you know everything about it. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,039 When something feels off, it's because something is off. 16 00:00:47,119 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Gresham and this this is gun Talk Nation. 17 00:01:01,159 --> 00:01:07,200 Guntognation is brought to you by Arcan Firearms, Silence are Central, 18 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:12,760 Ruger and Range Ready. Hey, welcome to the guntog Nation. 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,200 You know, there is a lot happening in the world 20 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:21,680 of silencers suppressors, and yes, the two hundred dollars tax 21 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:25,599 stamp has gone away. Yes the processing is fast, but 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,640 there's actually new technology happening because of that, I think, 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,120 And so today on the show, we've got Silent Steel USA. 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,719 Speaker 2: Justin Shane. 25 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean we were joking about because your name is 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,159 spelled differently than what we think it's supposed to. 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's spelled like she Han. 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: It was butchered in immigration over one hundred years ago, 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,280 and I have I've dot a lot of scars and 30 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,200 wounds to show for danding by how it's pronounce. 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: You have to always just keep correcting people, always everything. 32 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: Some people respect it when you correct it, and others 33 00:01:57,519 --> 00:02:00,519 still call you she han and on you for it. 34 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: You just you do the thing where you're like, am 35 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:04,599 I going to correct them? We're just going to let 36 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:06,719 it go. Am I going to have to talk to 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,560 this person again? 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? And as I get older, I either become more 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,280 stubborn or more agreeable. Yeah, depending on the day. It 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:15,919 depends on the day. 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, welcome in Man. We were filming some guns 42 00:02:18,479 --> 00:02:20,439 and gear segments. We said, let's sit down and talk 43 00:02:20,439 --> 00:02:24,639 about this because Silence Steel USA not a new company, 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,879 but kind of new to the US. Is that about right? 45 00:02:27,199 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, We've been around over a decade in Finland. So 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,400 our parent company, Silent Steel Finland. They've been producing the 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,199 suppressors for over ten years. A lot of our NATO 48 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:40,719 allies across the pond, they've been using them, and they've 49 00:02:40,759 --> 00:02:45,439 tested them, tested their durability and stand by their product. Yeah. 50 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:48,759 A couple of years ago we found them at one 51 00:02:48,759 --> 00:02:52,800 of the trade shows overseas Eurosatory and said, you know what, 52 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:56,680 America needs this. So we brought the manufacturing here to 53 00:02:56,719 --> 00:03:00,800 the United States, completely veteran owned company and made right 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,840 in South Line issue. 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, yeah, because I mean, I guess we can 56 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:07,800 get into it. I was thinking about this because this 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,800 morning I was looking at I said, it's made in Michigan, 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:16,080 Finland Technology, Finland company. You cannot ship in. Just for 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,039 people to understand, you can't ship silencers in. You can't 60 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:21,800 import silencers, is that right? You can? 61 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:24,039 Speaker 2: Right, you can, But it's a it's a pain. It's 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:24,680 a busy pain. 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Okay. So because there's a whole sporting use thing, and. 64 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely by manufacturing them here in the United States, 65 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,680 we have streamlined the process, which you know, to your 66 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,400 point about the tax stamp going down to zero dollars, Yeah, 67 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:40,680 the idea is to get not get these things tied 68 00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:43,400 up right in the system and in the process. So 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,120 the manufacturing piece is just one more one more spot 70 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:48,599 where we can be more efficient. 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have a background in, you know, work 72 00:03:54,439 --> 00:03:57,879 wise with running suppressors. I think that I always saying, 73 00:03:57,919 --> 00:03:59,719 I was said on the show before, like not everyone 74 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:03,560 who in the gun industry are gun enthusiasts, or maybe 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,039 they know the stuff. Maybe you're an engineer, maybe you're 76 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:09,759 a marketing person or whatever, But like there's certainly an 77 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:12,840 advantage to someone who whether they're super into it hobby 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,959 wise or they've done it professionally. You ran silencers suppressors 79 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,920 professionally for years and years. 80 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:22,199 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. So yeah, I was in the seal teams. 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,319 I did twelve years in the Navy, and you know, 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,079 when these guys found me, the founders, they said, you 83 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:31,399 need to shoot our suppressors, you need to check them out, 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,800 like this is going to blow your mind. And I thought, well, 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,160 I've shot a lot of suppressors over the years, all 86 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,560 the big names out there that you can think of. 87 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:42,040 We we've had them, we tested them, we evaluated them, 88 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:45,519 and then we used them overseas, right, and and lives 89 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,279 depend on their you know, their capabilities and their and 90 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,959 their function. I thought, suppressor is a suppressor really, right, 91 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:54,959 Like we always think of a suppressor as your traditional 92 00:04:55,079 --> 00:05:00,560 baffled system, a sealed can. For me, I've assumed once 93 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,160 that thing went on, it may never come back off. Right. 94 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:06,040 We were putting them under great amounts of heat because 95 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:08,920 they were carbon locked and they were seized up. And 96 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,319 so yeah, these guys came up to northern Michigan where 97 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,920 I was living, and we went to the range, this 98 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,519 little range out in Crawford County, middle of the National Forest, 99 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,319 and they showed me the suppressor and it blew my mind. 100 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,600 I saw that it was faffhulous. 101 00:05:23,879 --> 00:05:26,519 Speaker 1: Well that's the part, right, So you get to explained 102 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,800 to people the construction of this is not like we've 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,519 heard of baffles, we've heard a three D printing. This 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,839 is something entirely different. 105 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a true filter. There's a filter inside 106 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,560 of this and the only part of the suppressor that 107 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,879 cerealized is the external the two. So you know, for 108 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,480 warranty's sake or just general maintenance, if you have issues 109 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:54,360 with the internals, there's no transfer of the suppressor to 110 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:56,360 get this thing taken care of and get you back 111 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:59,600 online using your suppressor. You could send that core in 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,600 and we can update it, we can fix it, we 113 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,000 can just maintenance it if that's what you need. If 114 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,199 it's beyond what you can do yourself, you should be 115 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:09,240 able to do most of the maintenance all by yourself. 116 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:13,279 So it's a replaceable part. It's I don't want to 117 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:16,839 consider it consumable. You know, you should it's going to last. Yeah, 118 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,959 you know. We tell folks that these suppressors are rated 119 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,639 for fifteen to twenty thousand rounds. We had European counterparts. 120 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:27,079 Somebody came into shot Show this year and told us 121 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,680 they had over forty thousand rounds for their suppressor and 122 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,920 it was still maintaining its function. They serviced it. Obviously. 123 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:36,519 We tell people you do need to clean your stuff 124 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,360 just like you would your weapon, right and a lot 125 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,519 of folks would like to probably, you know, hold the 126 00:06:43,639 --> 00:06:47,439 manufacturer accountable, but sometimes it's just as a maintenance piece 127 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,600 that people need to take a little ownership of. 128 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,959 Speaker 1: Look at little sidebar. Pro tip for people that I 129 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,639 heard and I wonder if it works the same on 130 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,360 your suppressors is for people especially like professional end users, 131 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,279 run in suppressor A lot you can weigh the can 132 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,240 when you get it. When you weigh the can, and 133 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,600 if it's getting significantly heavier, you have a lot of 134 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:11,920 build up inside the can. Is that about right on? 135 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? You can you can tell that. I mean you can. 136 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:17,000 Even some people that run their guns a lot can 137 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,079 feel it. You can feel that it's getting heavy out front, right. 138 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:23,600 I mean the guys like folks from the community that 139 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,040 I came from. Your gun is an extension of your 140 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:29,240 of your body, right, so you know everything about it. 141 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:33,439 When something feels off, it's because something is off system. 142 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,120 But yeah, that carbon builds up, all of that, all 143 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,639 that propellant, all of the gases, all the dirty ammunition 144 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,279 that gets shot through your platform. That's where it's contained. 145 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:47,319 Isn't that suppressor before it exits? Right? And a lot 146 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,279 of times all of that trash comes back at you. 147 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:53,959 With our system being a you know, having the flow 148 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,920 iq technology and moving gas and all the propellants out 149 00:07:57,959 --> 00:08:00,839 the front of the can. Your eliminated the stuff back 150 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:04,079 in the face. But you're also eliminating stuff that gets 151 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:07,199 stuck in the can because we're taking the restrict off, 152 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:09,839 we're allowing it to come out the front. Yeah. 153 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about the There's been a lot of talk 154 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,759 about flow through back pressure. You have the flow IQ 155 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,519 is what you guys call it. This is accomplishing it 156 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,240 in a different way because you don't have baffles. But 157 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:28,160 talk about what's been going on in the last several 158 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,839 years of the types of gases people are seen and 159 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:32,720 what's happening with that. 160 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:38,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know with everything, right, I mean war, war 161 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,879 does a lot for our country and our communities. Right. 162 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:46,440 It establishes new standards, new protocols for health. Right, So 163 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:49,000 you have folks coming out of the services and they've 164 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,919 got toxic exposure to you know, super high exposure levels 165 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,399 to lead and all of these these materials right that 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,879 are harmful for you suppressors. What happens when you SHO 167 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,639 is you have hydrogen cyanide build up and that gas 168 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,080 comes back right in a DII or a piston system 169 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,639 and it comes back and it goes out the bowl 170 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,399 carrier in your face and you eat all of that 171 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:16,559 toxic residue. Our suppressors mitigate all that by sending it 172 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,200 out the front. So all of that is flowing at. 173 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:22,440 What it does is it enters a little gas chamber 174 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:25,399 and it hits the turbine and it starts to swirl, 175 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:29,879 and those gases as they swirl, they balance everything and 176 00:09:29,919 --> 00:09:33,440 they come out the front. That decreases the recoil, It 177 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,840 decreases the heat, there's not as much heat transfer, right, 178 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,759 and then it decreases the sound because of the gases. 179 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,480 That's what stops the sound, right, is all that gas 180 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:46,159 and swirling. It kills that noise as it goes out. So, yeah, 181 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:50,240 by moving from a baffled system, that traps all of that, 182 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,120 and then it takes like like water, it takes the 183 00:09:54,159 --> 00:09:57,720 path of least resistance. Well, if a baffled system traps 184 00:09:57,759 --> 00:10:02,440 all those gases, all that heat, all that toxic garbage 185 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,679 in there, a lot of times that comes back at you, Yeah, 186 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,240 because it finds the path of least resistance. So it 187 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:13,679 follows that rod back into the bowl. We've just mitigated 188 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,639 all of that. It's really cool. 189 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, turbine system, and talk about because we were doing this, 190 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,000 you can unscrew the front of it and pull the 191 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,519 core out and then like talk about cleaning this because 192 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,120 people will be it's amazing. 193 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm happy to show you I have one 194 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,360 here that's yeah, you know, I've this came off my 195 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:38,360 personal gun. It has our QD amount on here, our 196 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,960 bolt lock. But you know you're talking about the end cap. 197 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,279 That's what you're referring to for a maintenance. You know, 198 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,080 this is hand tightened. I mean I could take it 199 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,600 apart with my hands. But we also send a Spanner 200 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,480 wrench with every suppressor that's bought. So there's two little 201 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,960 notches right there. Yep, those little notches to Spanner wrench 202 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,039 pops in there, and this opens up very easily, and 203 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,960 then all it does is thread out. And again this 204 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,840 has been shot and you can see that one's dirty. 205 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:07,960 This is dirty, right, We've been shooting this, we've been 206 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,919 having fun with it, and we're not seeing any point 207 00:11:10,919 --> 00:11:14,480 of impact shifts with this. Even with it this dirty, 208 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,720 it still is maintaining all of its capabilities. But you 209 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:20,759 take that core and you drop it in a we 210 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,240 dropping an ultrasonic tank, it's going to come out like 211 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,559 brand new. It's gonna shake everything loose. It's going to 212 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,440 shake everything out of that wire mesh that the boar 213 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,519 chambers is wrapped with. Off this turbine, everything's going to 214 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,000 be clean. That's if you have a tank. If you 215 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:38,919 don't have a tank, you can just use hot water 216 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,519 with this shelp. You can let this thing soak and 217 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:43,840 then you can get a stiff bristle brush. You can 218 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,679 clean this up, blow it out with some air, and 219 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,679 you're ready to go. We tell folks to clean these 220 00:11:50,799 --> 00:11:53,960 about every thousand rounds or or you know, a heavy 221 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:58,720 day of shooting. That's gonna extend the life of your 222 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,600 suppressor and it's also going to extend the life of 223 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:06,679 your your gun because, as we know, barrels deteriorate and guns, 224 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,440 components inside of guns deteriorate from heat and all and 225 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,000 mat all of that pressure and all of the heat 226 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,879 that's built up and held in a contained space, that's 227 00:12:17,919 --> 00:12:18,919 what's hard on parts. 228 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: So the fact this runs cooler, it makes the barrel 229 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:25,120 run cooler exactly. 230 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,919 Speaker 2: So this runs cooler, and therefore what it does is 231 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:33,679 extends the life lifespan of your weapon itself. Very cool. 232 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I want to talk more about just where 233 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,519 we're going with silencers, because there's a lot going on, 234 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,840 and we'll be right back. The Ruger LCP Max is 235 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:50,279 still one of the most popular pocket sized personal protection pistols, 236 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:52,600 and they just made it better with the Magpoole enhanced 237 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,799 handgun grip. So this one is the LCP Max with 238 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Magpole EHG. Has nice texture, has a little bit bigger 239 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,720 grip module on it so you can get a little 240 00:13:02,759 --> 00:13:05,639 bit more grip on the gun. Has a thirteen round 241 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,279 magazine also a ten round magazine, so it's just had 242 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:13,519 been enhanced a bit. Still small, still easy to shoot, 243 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,039 and still very reliable as a Ruger, So go check 244 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:21,759 it out the Ruger LCP Max with Magpool EHG. What 245 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,159 if you could be significantly better with your firearms in 246 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,320 a short time. At Range Ready Studios, we offer handgun 247 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,320 and rifle classes to help. 248 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,399 Speaker 2: You be the best you can be. 249 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: You'll be safer, more competent, and just better at the range. 250 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,360 We also offer special experience classes which include the gun, 251 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,000 the AMMO, the gear and the training. Learn more at 252 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Rangereadystudios dot com. So justin people are buying silencers like 253 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,120 crazy these days, and just in case you've been living 254 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,159 under a rock, everybody, it's never been easier to buy 255 00:13:56,159 --> 00:13:56,759 a silencer. 256 00:13:57,039 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: Nope, nope. There we are reducing the pain and the 257 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,480 burden associated with getting suppressors, which we talked a little 258 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,919 bit about just traveling with them, right and you know 259 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,840 the National Firearms Act and how it's something that needs 260 00:14:12,879 --> 00:14:16,320 to be declared when you travel, and we don't think 261 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,639 that everybody even knows it's working there. 262 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:21,679 Speaker 1: It needs to be oh my gosh, traveling with guns, 263 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,799 traveling with suppressors. 264 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: Yes, that's we. 265 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Do it all the time for work because of what 266 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:27,159 we do. 267 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,159 Speaker 2: But yes, you do have to declare, you know. 268 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: Get a firearms declaration form. 269 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,799 Speaker 2: Is what I always say. 270 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Don't yell I have a gun in the airport, I 271 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,600 need a firearms declaration form. And if they're like but 272 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:45,600 those and it's like you travel with silencers suppressors and 273 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:49,480 it's like that's not a firearm, is it. No, it's 274 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,480 not a firearm, but I do need to declare it. 275 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,399 And it's like no you don't, Yes, yes I do, 276 00:14:54,879 --> 00:14:55,440 I really do. 277 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,879 Speaker 2: I had that conversation on the way out here. You know, well, 278 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,240 it's not a gun, right, it's not a gun, but 279 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:03,240 it goes on a gun but not a gun. 280 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Well, I mean you have to, you have to declare. 281 00:15:06,279 --> 00:15:10,480 And I mean it's stupid, but I've been told several 282 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,720 different ways that if you had like like a like 283 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:20,279 a SIMS gun, a glock replica you have to declare that. 284 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:22,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because there's they can X. 285 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Ray all this stuff and they see a gun in there, yes, 286 00:15:24,519 --> 00:15:25,480 and you haven't declared it. 287 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: It could be plastic. 288 00:15:27,399 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: And it's a trick we used to use for our 289 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:32,799 camera cases because you know, you have to put TSA 290 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:36,399 locks on things unless it's a gun case, and then 291 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,120 you actually are not supposed to have TSA locks. And 292 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:42,879 so we would do is we would put like a 293 00:15:42,919 --> 00:15:45,519 SIMS gun in the camera case instead, I need a 294 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:48,639 firearms declaration form. And it's that way. Even if you're 295 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,679 traveling to some strange state that that isn't real friendly 296 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,600 for guns. It could be Connecticut or California or something 297 00:15:55,639 --> 00:15:58,519 like that. I'm fine having this plastic pistol in there. 298 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:01,600 But they also let me put real master locks right 299 00:16:01,799 --> 00:16:03,720 on the cases of our cameras. 300 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Get around it. 301 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,919 Speaker 1: It was a little a little trick we used. So 302 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:07,240 there you go, guys, if you want to be able 303 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:09,600 to put real locks on your on your luggage, you 304 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:10,159 could do that. 305 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: Hacking that problem. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, it's 306 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,600 never been easier to get suppressors and there's not a 307 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:20,600 shortage of companies that are popping up that are selling 308 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,799 suppressors as well. We obviously hope that folks shop with us, 309 00:16:24,879 --> 00:16:27,720 but they're you know, with that tax stamp going to 310 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:30,399 zero dollars, it's just opportunity and you're going to see that. 311 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,960 So yeah, and that's something that people need to be 312 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:38,399 wary of, right, is that just because somebody starts making suppressors, 313 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:40,840 that doesn't make them quality, right, doesn't mean that the 314 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:43,720 customer service is going to be there. It's just a 315 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,039 it's just a quick money grab. So we're not that's 316 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,039 not us. We're here for the long haul and our 317 00:16:50,039 --> 00:16:53,480 finish arm of that has proven you know that we 318 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,440 we can stand the test of time even though we 319 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,279 may feel uh, you know, junior or young in the game, 320 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,360 it's not not the case necessarily. 321 00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: What are you hearing from customers when they're getting these well, 322 00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:05,960 they're just there. 323 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:08,559 Speaker 2: For one, they're just blown away at the gas, the 324 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,759 turbine and the filter system. I mean that the same 325 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:14,400 way with me, right, like shot all these suppressors over 326 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,720 the years, and when I pulled that thing apart, I mean, 327 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,640 obviously we all know what we're looking at. It's not 328 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:24,599 that complicated, but it does really surprise you and I 329 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:28,279 think that's any any leap in technology. We feel that way, 330 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,839 We just didn't. It's admiration, right like you then you're like, wow, 331 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:35,400 this is cool. Why didn't I think of this? Or 332 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,039 somehow has somebody else not thought of this before? Right? 333 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,839 So that's just that while factor of like being able 334 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,279 to take that thing apart and clean it on your own, 335 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,839 check check the serviceability, just being able to look at 336 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:53,480 it and say, this doesn't look messed up. Right, Like 337 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:56,480 you start shooting your rifle and you you know you 338 00:17:56,519 --> 00:17:59,119 have a change in your point of impact and you 339 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,400 start to diagnose it's your system. The suppressor is part 340 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,680 of that. Sure, and now it's easier to diagnose if 341 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,119 it is the suppressor, and if it is, we're going 342 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,759 to stand by it. We're going to warranty it. 343 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,599 Speaker 1: Think about like a traditional baffled suppressor. A lot of 344 00:18:14,599 --> 00:18:17,079 times they have that first baffle is the one that's 345 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,319 taking the brunt of the punishment. Right. They'll even have 346 00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:24,079 a titanium suppressor, but the first baffles has a different 347 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,400 construction or whatever. 348 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:25,559 Speaker 2: It might be. 349 00:18:25,759 --> 00:18:30,319 Speaker 1: Right, how does that change for you guys, because it's 350 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:33,640 just it's not designed that way. Does that first part 351 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,839 take the brunt of the punishment or is it just 352 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,559 is it different? 353 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:40,799 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't because that turbine is redirecting everything. So 354 00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:45,279 as as things as the elements are approaching that turbine, 355 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,039 they start to be redirected, so that turbine is moving 356 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:52,519 that gas as that bullet is entering that bullet chamber, 357 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,359 and that standoff that that chamber that is empty, that's 358 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,640 not filled with the turbine or the or the filter itself, 359 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,519 that is allowing those gases to escape. So they're not 360 00:19:03,799 --> 00:19:06,559 they're not being restricted like you would typically see with 361 00:19:06,599 --> 00:19:10,920 those first couple discs, those baffles, right, and everything's not 362 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,039 building there, it's actually expanding. So I tell people it's 363 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:18,039 like taking the restrict off something, but not so much 364 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,240 that you have changes at bolt speed. Right. You still 365 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,720 you still still has to go through its steps before 366 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,279 it exits the front of the suppressor. 367 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, And a lot of times with suppressors there's kind 368 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,920 of this compromise that takes place if if you get 369 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:38,119 high flow through it's not as quiet. Is that? 370 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,319 Speaker 2: That? Is that the case one hundred percent? And I 371 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,279 think that that's something that maybe folks are surprised that 372 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,680 when they shoot it is that they well they expect 373 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:49,519 James Bond, right, you know, they John Wick. You know, 374 00:19:49,599 --> 00:19:51,960 they think that their their guns are going to be 375 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,720 impossible to hear and they're not going to be compromised. Right, 376 00:19:56,079 --> 00:20:00,440 But what I it's not a it's not a or 377 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,920 you know, a ding on anybody that thinks that. But 378 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,599 typically your operators, you're professionals that use these, they understand that. 379 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 So they're not even focused on the sound, right. They 380 00:20:12,079 --> 00:20:14,599 know they know you're going to meet the parameters, right, 381 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,160 the requirements for the decibel reduction. They know we're going 382 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,880 to do that for them. We're going to get it 383 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,759 down to one hundred and thirty six hundred and thirty 384 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:24,119 seven decibels to the ear, to the shooter's ear, and 385 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,279 it's going to be safe. Right. So and they're still 386 00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:30,440 running you know, pel tours and swordans and hearing protection 387 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:35,200 right with their comms gear on. But they're less concerned 388 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,279 with the sound. You know, our civilians are our shooters, 389 00:20:40,319 --> 00:20:43,000 even our avid shooters out there in the civilian world, 390 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,759 they seem to focus a lot on the sound. And 391 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:48,400 that's just something that we have to just explain, right, Like, 392 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,799 especially as you move away from baffled systems that are quieter. 393 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:56,559 Baffled systems are quieter and sealed cans, But on a 394 00:20:56,599 --> 00:20:59,799 gas gun, you're also going to be eating a tremendous 395 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,880 amount of hydrogen, cyanide, and carbon that's coming out of 396 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,279 that gun. So there's a trade off for it. We 397 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:11,559 we value the back pressure, the reduction in recoil, the 398 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,160 reduction in heat, right, the heat transfer. I mean, I've 399 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,559 got lots of cami pants, you know, cry pants that 400 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:21,880 have got burn marks because I just dipped my barrel 401 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:24,240 and now I've got a hole in my pants, right, 402 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,839 or burned myself with my can because it's so hot. Yeah, 403 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,799 our cans run, they run forty percent cooler, so they're 404 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,400 a much cooler running can, you know. And again when 405 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,200 I first saw them, they're like, yeah, you'll be able 406 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,279 to touch this can after dumping a few mags through it. 407 00:21:39,319 --> 00:21:41,759 Speaker 1: I thought, I mean that's what we did. We got 408 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:43,599 it in and when you know, a couple of months 409 00:21:43,599 --> 00:21:46,359 ago we got that nine mild cannon and we ran 410 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,519 a few mags through it, and we were doing the 411 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:51,200 video and said, you know, well, they say it runs cooler. 412 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,480 I wonder if I can hold this and It was 413 00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:56,400 kind of like you do the quick you know, tap 414 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,839 it just to see and you go wait, okay, okay, 415 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,480 and you grab it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's a 416 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,920 little warm, but it's you could actually hold this in 417 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,160 your hand, which is amazing. 418 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, we're a completely veteran owned company, 419 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,160 so that helps because the things that we value may 420 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,359 differ a little bit from your you know, your average shooter, 421 00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:19,799 because we want this to be military grade, so we're 422 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,480 using stainless steel. We understand that there are lighter alloys 423 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:28,200 out there, but stainless steel is durable. It doesn't oxidize 424 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,960 like other alloys. So you're talking about over the beach 425 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,039 operations where you're doing stuff in the surf zone, right, 426 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:36,519 these are going to hold up and they're going to 427 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:39,680 build the weather all of the elements in a better 428 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,000 fashion because we're using stainless steel three or three and 429 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:45,880 three or four stainless steel. It's a better conductor, so 430 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,599 it manages the heat better. Is it a little bit heavier, Sure, 431 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:53,119 it's a little bit heavier, but our operators don't seem 432 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,440 to complain about the weight. You know, ounces do equal pounds, 433 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,720 but platforms need to be durable. They need to be 434 00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:04,839 really liable and consistent, and our suppressors match that match 435 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,599 all of those standards that we expect out of our 436 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,319 guns alone. 437 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,519 Speaker 1: Hey, I want to tell you about the ARCon Type 438 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,400 B pistol, designed with the lowest bore axis of any 439 00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:20,920 striker fired handgun, which helps reduce muzzle flip during recoil, 440 00:23:21,319 --> 00:23:25,119 getting you back on target faster. This is made possible 441 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,680 by the patented af speedlock system featuring a unique non 442 00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:33,839 tilting barrel lockup design and with the gen Twoter modular grip, 443 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,960 you can customize size and texture to fit your use 444 00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:44,119 and shooting preference. ARCN Firearms suppressor ownership has never been 445 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,160 easier for shooters who want less noise and less recoil. 446 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,480 Silence or Central makes it easy browse top suppressor brands online, 447 00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:54,519 handle the paperwork from home with the help of their experts, 448 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,160 and have your new suppressor delivered to your door. Silence 449 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,680 are Central, so justin you know, we were talking earlier 450 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:10,359 of like most people, regular consumers buy guns, scopes, suppressors, whatever, 451 00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:12,960 and they don't have the same They're not using this 452 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,599 stuff every day or every week. It's a hobby. But 453 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,759 for people like you know, you were in the seal teams. 454 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,759 You guys are training all the time and you're running. 455 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:26,400 You mentioned like over the beach operations. You know, I'm 456 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,720 not typically doing over the beach operations here in Louisiana. 457 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:34,519 But you see stuff that most people don't see, right, 458 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,839 you see what does it look like? What does the 459 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,119 flash signature look like? And you see like the real 460 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:47,039 world applications of that. I mean, there are there times 461 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,880 that you can think about when you were actually working 462 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,839 in that environment where the flash, either from the enemy 463 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,240 or from you guys was noticeable. Like you're wearing nods. 464 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,759 I mean, do you think about out You look for 465 00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:03,599 things in a different way because you've been there. 466 00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean flash alone, right, Like if you're under 467 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:10,599 night vision and you're you're shooting in a house or 468 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,559 in a you know, contained space, flash is a big deal, right. 469 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,519 You can you can get flooded out because there's a 470 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,119 fireball at the end of your at the end of 471 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,920 your gun, right, Yeah, with everything coming out the front 472 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,599 of our suppressor, it acts as a vacuum, so it 473 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,400 kills all of that flash. That fireball that comes out 474 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,720 the end. It is in a sense, it vacuums and 475 00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:31,799 it contains it right, and it handle it does the 476 00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:34,480 same with dust and it just captures all of that. 477 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,079 You know, we stood out at a at a range 478 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,319 out west this early spring and we were out there 479 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,160 under night vision staring at the end of the barrel 480 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,319 of just trying at the end of the suppressure trying 481 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:47,119 to catch the flash and it was nearly impossible, really, yeah, 482 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,880 because like it's that little, it's that it's that small 483 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,240 of a signature. Yeah, And that and signature management. You know, 484 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,960 you talk about like the advancements in technology and suppressors 485 00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:01,240 and this and that, signature management is probably the thing 486 00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:07,400 right now, that's the theme is managing signature and that's 487 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,319 something we're proud that we do really well. 488 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: Right, well, so many things have gone to fight at night, right. 489 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:20,079 Speaker 2: Yes, and the ability to pick up someone's location, right, 490 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:25,960 and just with technology we've been better able to find, fix, capture, 491 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,119 do all these things of different degrees, and so yeah, 492 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,200 now it's become a signature management problem, a dilemma that 493 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,680 needs to be solved. So different companies are solving that. 494 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,640 Whether it's you know, your uniforms that we're wearing, right, 495 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,200 we're trying to create uniforms that handle your heat, your 496 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,440 body heat, right and give off less thermal signature. We're 497 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,079 doing the same thing here with our thermal signature. And yeah, 498 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,240 sometimes you don't want that. I mean we certainly overseas 499 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:01,480 at times pulled cans so they would see flash because 500 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,559 you want get people's heads down. Yeah, right, like, so 501 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:07,839 you know, sometimes you use flash to your advantage. 502 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: I want it loud and flashy. 503 00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:13,039 Speaker 2: Right, you know, we want they see me on down 504 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,759 kind of thing. But yeah, we're we're really happy with 505 00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:19,519 the management, the signature management that we have out of 506 00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:23,039 our suppressor and then other things like you know, I 507 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,519 can't tell you how many times I've been you know, 508 00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:29,759 first rooms fine, second room, eyes are watering a little bit. 509 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,160 Third room, you're you know, you're just dealing with a 510 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,319 film over your eyeballs because you're eating all that garbage 511 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:40,920 in the face, not and not. You know, God forbid. 512 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,480 You're a left handed shooter, right me, I'm the guy 513 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:45,599 you're eating an all guy. 514 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: I'm I'm right handed. I'm super left eye dominant, so 515 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,000 I've always shot long guns on left shoulder, and I 516 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:57,240 am like the test case when when people are like oh, 517 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,119 you know this blowback thing. I'm like, yeah, I've I've 518 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,839 been bitching about it for years, guys. Yeah, because the 519 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,599 first time I started, or when I first started shooting suppressed, 520 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,759 was like whoa, because up until that point, people would say, well, 521 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,279 doesn't bother you, like the shell the brass is being 522 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,480 thrown across your face, and said, I never see it, 523 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000 don't It doesn't bother me. I never see it. I 524 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,920 never noticed it. It's a big deal until I put 525 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,119 a suppressor on. This is old school. This is like 526 00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:29,480 I don't know, you know, twenty ten AAC stuff, right, Yeah, 527 00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:31,680 And I mean it was great at the time, yeah, 528 00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:35,359 for what it was, but yeah, dude, it's throwing all 529 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,440 kinds of dust and junk into you. Like you want 530 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,160 to make sure that you're wearing eye protection. Yeah, I mean, 531 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480 it's no joke. Yeah, I always laugh. 532 00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: I fet you know, I feel like hundreds hundreds of 533 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,400 sets of clear eye protection laying around right then, because 534 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,359 every time they get a little scratched up, I want 535 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,920 another clean set. But you know, we wear that a 536 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,279 lot of times to manage all that garbage and gunk 537 00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:02,119 that's coming back into your eyeballs. I mean, you know, 538 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,079 you men have act people overseas for lifelim or eyesight. 539 00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:08,359 Speaker 1: Oh, eyesight is a very important. 540 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,839 Speaker 2: Thing, and and you know, we like to think that 541 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,160 we're helping the operator deal with that that problem that 542 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,920 they have when they're eating all that trash that's coming 543 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,319 out of their their bolt face. Right. Yeah. Yeah, when 544 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:23,400 we see a guy that's left handed step up to 545 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,000 the range at a demo day, we're like, yes, you know, 546 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,759 he's gonna love this. What do you hey, what do 547 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,880 you think? And they're always like, there's no gas in 548 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,039 the face, you know. So, yeah, we do a really 549 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:39,799 great job at mitigating really all the things that make 550 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,240 shooting unfavorable, uncomfortable. Right, So we're applying it a lot 551 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,640 of times to a professional sense. You're you're war fighter, 552 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,799 you're law enforcement officer. But the truth is they shouldn't 553 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,960 just have a better experience alone, right, the civilia and 554 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,480 the shooters that the guys that go to the range 555 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,839 or they you know, they care very very deeply about 556 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,200 personal defense and they trained hard, right, they want the 557 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,400 same equipment that we that we have, that we test 558 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,599 and we evaluate. Yeah, so and there's no reason they 559 00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,039 shouldn't have that, Like we've talked a lot about like, 560 00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:19,799 well this is for the professional, right, and you know, 561 00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,720 civilians maybe don't understand this or don't understand that, and 562 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,880 that bridge is being gapped, a margin is narrowing, right, 563 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,960 Like civilians have access to all the information right as 564 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,359 fast as we get it there. They're right behind us 565 00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:36,240 on our coattails. 566 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: So the same stuff and they want the same stuff. 567 00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: And honestly they should have a better experience too. Right, 568 00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,039 you should be able to go to the gun range. 569 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,720 You should be able to not feel like your ears 570 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,839 are bleeding when you leave it, right because you had 571 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,839 the ability to shoot suppressed, and the government and policy 572 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,000 and protocol and just the scare tactics haven't prohibited you 573 00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,839 from shooting with a suppressor for all the years, right, 574 00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:03,599 and then if you are shooting suppressed, you shouldn't have 575 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,319 to eat gas and hydrogen cyanide and all these other 576 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,119 things and replace your can your suppressors over and over 577 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,079 because they're shot out or you think they're shot out, 578 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:18,200 you don't know because you can't take them apart. Right, So, yeah, 579 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,240 we serve both communities. 580 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,799 Speaker 1: If somebody comes to you and they're like, yeah, I've 581 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,559 been thinking about getting a suppressor. I've never had one. 582 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: What would you say is. 583 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: The number one reason to buy one? 584 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, probably just the probably the reduction in recoil 585 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,880 and sound. I mean we I've said, hey, we focus 586 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,160 a lot. 587 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: Sound might be actually number two. 588 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:46,359 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I think so, I mean we You know, 589 00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:49,319 I thought you might say that I take different folks shooting. 590 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,440 I run shooting courses, I do close quarters combat courses 591 00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:59,759 and weapons fundamentals. And you know, the biggest, the biggest 592 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:04,119 thing that separates capable and non capable folks with their 593 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:06,920 firearms is the amount of training they do. So I 594 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,640 tell people when they come in, they shoot my guns, 595 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,519 and they're like, oh, is this what I should buy? 596 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:14,240 And I'm like, no, you should buy what suits you 597 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,519 because I want you to train with it, right, And 598 00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:20,599 if putting a suppressor on the end of your gun 599 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,000 means you'll go train with it more because it's a 600 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,359 more pleasurable experience, I think you should shoot suppressed. 601 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 602 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:31,759 Speaker 2: Right. You know I don't have gigantic hands, right, so 603 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,319 I'm probably not going to run some nineteen eleven you know, 604 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:39,160 big heavy framed pistol, Right. I run smaller framed guns 605 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,319 because they fit better in my hands. I think that 606 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,000 you should buy and things that will you know they 607 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,559 will facilitate your training needs. Okay, that way you become 608 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,680 better equipped down the road. Then you've got the hours 609 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,480 of the ten thousand reps. You get them because you're 610 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,599 not afraid of your gun. You don't want to go 611 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,480 have this thing bark at you and break your ear 612 00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:01,960 drum every time you know you're on the range. And 613 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:05,480 I think that if everybody on the line is suppressed, 614 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,960 everybody's having a better time. And we all know that 615 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,480 guy that he's got his can off and jeez and 616 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,359 ear pro. You know, you should still wear your ear 617 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,319 pro because you know yours are important. But it's much 618 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:26,119 more pleasant when somebody has a suppressed system next to 619 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,319 you than unsuppressed. 620 00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: Gonna make you a better shooter because you don't have 621 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,599 the recoil. It's going to help you to train more. 622 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,440 Kind of what you're saying, because it's more pleasurable to 623 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,960 shoot it. And very cool. I mean, you guys are 624 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,240 doing cool stuff. Silence Steel USA. And I guess is 625 00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:43,480 how they find you guys. 626 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: Yes, Silence Steel USA. 627 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,839 Speaker 1: All right, make sure to look us up very good, 628 00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:49,240 all right, Thank you guys for listening, thanks for watching. 629 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:50,960 We'll see you next time on gun Talk Nation.